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January 22, 2025 • 36 mins

Doug reacts to the news that the Jets have hired former Lions defensive coordinator Aaron Glenn and how that impacts the Lions as they have been picked apart. Doug welcomes FSR NFL Insider Adam Caplan onto the show to talk about the Bears, Jets and all of the othe rmajor headlines around the NFL. Plus, Isaac Lowenkron takes Doug through a game of "Better or Worse?".

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:27):
I know he's walking out of the studio right now
in LA and I just want to tell Dan Byer
I'm thinking of him because there's a big fire near
Lake Castaic, which is north of our studios, north of
the valley, but it's closer to where Dan and his young,

(00:48):
beautiful family live. So I think he's going to go
and run home and make sure that everything's okay at home,
which is more than understandable. But anyway, so Dan won't
be with us, I don't believe today. So it's just me, you,
Jay stew and Sammy. Oh Ilo is gonna come in great.

(01:11):
Thanks Ilo. But again, the point is that we all
have our own stuff. You know, it's really important to
have balance and when you're in the middle of things,
that are rough, you like you look around, like you know,
like Mike, teamman won a game since mid November, right,
feels like the weight of the world on all of us.

(01:31):
But I said this at my postgame press conference. We
have our golf coach, lely Ranky. He's fighting cancer, his
fight for cancer. Our thoughts are way more with him
than we are on feeling sorry for ourselves over things
we should have, could have, should have done right. Same
thing with today, no matter what is going rough at
like bosses, me and your kids are not doing as
well in school, your car, you know, you got a

(01:53):
flat tire or whatever. Hey man, there's people in California,
and I know there's all that snow and ice in
the southern parts United States. If you're stuck indoors, thanks
so much for listening. We appreciate it. Reminded the podcast
is available at the end of the show. Anyway, Danny,
drive home safe, take care of that family, take care
of that house. Let's get to sports. So now Aaron
Glenn appears to he's going to take the Jets job, right,

(02:15):
So Ben Johnson to the Bears, Aaron Glenn to the Jets,
And here's the real challenge. For Dan Campbell. I commend
Dan Campbell on doing what I am trying to do,
and I know I will find the right mix, which is,
hey lean into what you know and hire people who
know what you don't know, and let them do their jobs. Right.

(02:38):
Dan Campbell was a tight end was a tight end coach,
and obviously he knows a thing or two about blocking,
so he can help the old line coach. He knows
a thing or two about what it's like to play
within an offense football and he's coached on many a
staff so he knows a little bit about everything. But
he hired a really talented young offensive coordinator, Ben Johnson,
and a former player who I know he respects as

(03:00):
a defensive coordinator and let them do their job. Now
you gotta do it again. The real challenge to sustaining
success is when you're successful, people are going to try
and poach your players. They're going to try and poach
your coaches. Why wouldn't they, That's business? You know this
all does. It's really interesting, Jay Stu, you and I

(03:24):
were talking off air about the hatred over the Dodgers
and the Dodgers spending money. I look at the Dodgers
as what they're doing is what any smart business does. Yeah,
they're spending money, it's all within the rules. They're not
violating any rule of baseball. What they've done is because
if you go back six months ago, it was the

(03:45):
Dodgers can't win a World Series. Now they win a
World Series and they're ruining baseball because they're continuing to
push forward and make their team better and better and better.
Hell yeah, they are either evolve or you perish. You
can't stand pad. You can't stand pad. Now, how many

(04:08):
times did the Patriots win a Super Bowl and allow
a talented player who's got one year of greatness left
in him walk out the door so they could keep
pushing it forward? You know Netflix, I mean think about Netflix,
how they've succeeded. Right. They went from you get one

(04:28):
or three DVDs in the mail, then they became a
streaming service and they started to take over the world.
Then they start developing their content. Now they're doing live content.
They keep throwing more money at more things. Why, because
you either evolve or you perish. You've got to keep
pushing forward. And the challenge to all of these companies,

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all of them, Netflix, Amazon, Facebook, Walmart, Nike, think of
any champion of industry, and I know the Lions haven't
won anything, so they're not champions, perc say, But if
you're actually honest and you're not just a jerk, like
everybody thinks it's so cool to be a jerk, now,
like that's the fun part, Like, no, it's not, just

(05:08):
be honest. The Lions were the laughing stock of football
for about twenty years, give or take. There was a
couple of couple of good, solid years, right, and but
for the most part, the Lions were viewed as like
the Clippers, Right? Is that fair? The Lions were viewed

(05:30):
as the Clippers. It doesn't matter that you had, was
it Jim Caldwell's years, which are pretty good, but they
lost in the playoffs. Outside of that and outside of
a couple of years and where they had, I thought
Jim Schwartz did a pretty good job. Mooch did a
good job, Boss Ross did a good job. Right. Wayne

(05:51):
fonce had a couple of really good years. He was
Coach of the Year in the nineties, But for most
of our lifetime, the Lions have been a really good punchline.
Cool uniforms, unique dome stadiums, two of them, the greatest
running back of all time, but kind of a laughingstock
of an overall organization. So Dan Campbell turns them into

(06:12):
the model of how you want to become exciting, go
for it young offensive coordinator defense. Obviously their defense wasn't good,
but a lot of that was was injury dependent. So
you can say they're not the model, because there it's true.
They are the model. That's how you flip it. Yeah,
I are really good energetic guys. You change the roster,

(06:33):
you get everybody all in. You have a coach who
leans into what he does, which is motivate, motivate, motivate,
be about the players. And now they lost their two coordinators,
and they'll lose some players as well. And now the
challenge is really really a tough one because you still
haven't gotten over the hump as a team yet you're close.

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People are going to poach some of your players, and
now you've got to figure out, Okay, do we elevate
guys or are those coordinators going to take their own guys?
And we got to kind of scrap it and start
all over. But I think of this as nothing more
than a mirror of business. It's happened to the Niners,
and you could say, hey, with the Niners, haven't won
a super Bowl with Kyle Shanahan. They haven't, but they've
become the model. They weren't the laughing stock, but they

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after Jim Harball left, they went down in the dumbs.
Then they hired Kyle Shanahan. And when they've had a
healthy quarterback, they've been a juggernaut. That's why they get
poached time and again, for the quarterbacks, for some of
their players, and for allow of their coaches. The first
challenge to running an organization is hiring really really good people,

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finding their lane, giving them their lane, and letting them
control their lane. And the next part to it is
when you lose those people after you've been successful, finding
guys who can do the same thing, maybe in a
little bit different fashion. But you can also allow to
work through it. And it doesn't always work. I mean,
I'll give you example. This is not a trying to

(08:04):
embarrass anybody, but how many people out there know that
Sean McDermott story. Sean McDermott was Jim Johnson was the
defensive coordinator for the Eagles when Andy Reid was there.
When they went to what was it five was the
AFC title games in a row and one of them

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went to the Super Bowl five and six years or
something like that. Jim Johnson was their defense coordinator. Jim
Johnson got cancer, ended up passing away, and Sean McDermott
took over for him, and it didn't work. It was bad. Now,
part of it was that personnel wasn't as good. Part
of it was it was his first time being defense

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coordinator and the expectations were huge. McDermott then went to
Carolina after being fired by the Eagles, and when the
Carolina Panthers went to the Super Bowl with Cam Newton,
they had the best defense in the NFL. McDermott was
the defense coordinator. He got the Bills job, and his
success with the Bills has been outstanding. But the point
to it is, even sometimes when you have a protege

(09:07):
sitting right there, you're like, he's going to be just
as good as the old guy, sometimes it doesn't work.
But what a challenge for Dan Campbell, who knocked it
out of the park with his coordinators, with his energy
and has flipped this program on its heels. Flip flipped.
Assume me the NFL on its heels completely change how

(09:29):
we look at the Detroit Lions. But now you got
to go back and rebuild it again from the core
out with your coordinators. So Aaron Glenn gonna be hired
by the Jets. The Lions are getting picked apart. That's
what happens when one, you lose early. If you lose early,
then your coordinators are more likely to be taken. That's

(09:51):
kind of a fact just because of timeline. And then two,
when you're successful for a couple of years, people want
to get a piece of y.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
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Speaker 1 (10:08):
What Up with You Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox
Sports Radio. I hope you're having a very very good Wednesday,
hum Day, would woo? So the Bears have themselves a
new head coach. His name is Ben Johnson. You may
know he was the offense credit with the Detroit Lions.
This is what he had to say about what appeals
to him about the Bears job.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
Going into this season. I felt like this place was
a sleeping giant to be honest with you, I personally
was more concerned about the Chicago Bears than was anybody
else in this division. Now, there's a number of reasons
why that did not unfold, all right, which that's why
I'm here. I'll get to the bottom of that and
we'll see if we can't get that corrected and cleaned up.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Here's what he said about his new quarterback, Caleb Williams.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
There's no doubt Caleb played a large component into my decision.
He is a phenomenal talent that had, as many quarterbacks do,
an up and down rookie year. Where I see my
role is as a supporter of him. This offense will
be calibrated with him in mind. We're going to build
this thing. This is not simply a dropping of a

(11:14):
previous playbook down on the table and starting there. Nope,
We're ripping this thing down to the studs, and we're
going to build it up with him first and foremost,
and then with the pieces around him next. I really
look forward to challenging him and pushing him to continue
to grow and develop.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Yeah, as
a very matter of fact, I love that term calibrated right,
right right. You build an offense with him in mind,
how can we best build it? That's smart coaching. It's like,
what are we going to run? Well, let me see
who my personnel is. But he did have an up

(11:51):
and down first year and stuff. Isn't your first year
in anything. You learn a ton a ton, and it's
how do you adjust to those things? Are you willing
to take feedback? But he wouldn't lean into what you
know best. One point that should be made is again,
and it's on paper, it's on paper, but if you

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look at the divisions, they cross over against next year.
So this year I pointed this out, and I don't
know how many other people pointed out that the NFC
North crossed over against They played the NFC West, which
was down this year. Niners had all kinds of injuries,
Seahawks were eh, Cardinals were eh. And the Rams end

(12:34):
up winning the division. And this is the year in
which their best defensive player retired and they had injuries
and they were okay, they're still pretty good. And then
the AFC South, which was bad. Next year, it's the
AFC North. That's Ravens, that's Steelers, that's Bengals, that's Browns,

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and the NFC East Eagles. One would expect the Cowboys
to be better. We'll see Commanders still playing right, and
the Giants, who you think they're better. It couldn't be worse.
So I do think the challenge for all these teams
in the NFC North. And remember it looks like the

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Vikings will probably have a quarterback change. The Lions are
gonna have two new coordinators, but there's gonna be a lot.
It's gonna be very interesting to see a division that
produced three playoff teams what it looks like next year
when the schedule again it's on paper, it's really you know,
we're not even done playing football this year, let alone
what the rosters look like. But Steelers Ravens like, you know,

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the quarterback for the Bengals gonna be you know, the
quarterback for the Ravens gonna be you know, they're gonna
be good. And you know the quarterback for the Commander
is gonna be you know, they're gonna be good. You
know what, the Eagle Eagles are gonna be talented. And
you know the quarterback of the Cowboys, if he's healthy,
they're gonna be good. Hard year. Let's welcome to Adam Kaplan.
He joins the here in the Doug Gottlieb Show on
Fox Sports Radio. CAP is our Fox Sports Radio NFL Insider.

(14:04):
He's also a host of Inside the Birds, a podcast
about the Philadelphia Eagles. Makes sense to have Aaron Glenn
get the Jets job, Ben Johnson get the Bear's job.
What about the rebuild in Detroit? What an alliance coaching
staff and the roster look like next year?

Speaker 4 (14:20):
Yeah, so let's go to Detroit and the offensive coordinator,
the in house candidate. I'm told us Tanner Angstrad, who
is there? Who's our passing game coordinator? Who's been with
them for a number of years. He's been around the
league a bit. He actually played for this a long
time ago, Jim Harball at University of San Diego. So
this guy who knows football, who knows offense, he knows
the scheme that Ben Johnson has been running. It's a

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West Coast scheme a little different than the Shanahan scheme.
But the bottom line is they think they're going to
be in good hands. And let's just understand with Ben Johnson,
because people talk about Ben Johnson's a genius and all that,
and he's terrific, no question about it. But nobody knew
who Ben Johnson was before he became the offense coordinator
for Detroit. He kind of came out of nowhere, I say,
kind of lower level assistant than rose up a little

(15:02):
bit and Dan Campbell took a chance, and I gave
Dan Campbell credit and Ben Johnson gave credit. Today is
press conference. But you know, the bottom line is when
you look at Ben Johnson, he's a guy that not
a lot of people are in the league knew. Tannor
Angstred's the guy that they're looking at, and Hank Fraley
would be sort of the backup option. Who's their offensive
line coach? And I know the Seahawks have interested in Hank.

(15:25):
He already interviewed there by Zoom last week prior to
the game. And then your defensive coordinator wise, they'll look
inside Jimmy O'Neil, who's a DBAST coach who's been a
coordinator choice around the league. There are a couple other assistants
they'll look at. I know Mark Brunell also the quarterbacks coach,
and offense might get a look at the OC, but
it's a big deal when you lose both coordinators. It

(15:47):
hurt Philly, by the way, it absolutely hurt Philly when
you mentioned the Eagles and what we do there. They
lost Jonathan Gannon and then they all Shane stek and
in one offseason. That's tough to overcome, and it showed
last season with.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Eve Stuck out show here on Fox Sports Radio. Totally
agree with you. Really really tough to really tough to overcome.
Let's let's get some post mortem on some of these
teams that have lost in the playoffs. What's your take
on Lamar Jackson who played well down the stretch but
did have two turnovers and still comes up short on

(16:21):
the road against the Bills.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
Well, a couple of things here. You know, the Mark
Andrew situation is, by the way, phenomenal football player. He
obviously the tough drop, a turnover, you know, a tough fumble.
Lamar did have a fumble. But Lamar did enough for
them to win that game, at least to tie the game. Now,
I would also argue that they over they outplay the Bills.

(16:44):
It's funny I picked the Bills to win, but I'm
being honest with you that the raven should have won
the game, they blew it. But when you lose the
turnover battle, you know, it's interesting that every team I
think they lost a turnover battle lost last week. It's
a tough deal that you look at Detroit and we
just talked about Look I I voted twice in two polls.
My latest one was the Profile Writer Association DOUG for

(17:05):
the regular season. That any award has to be over
seventeen games. It can't be eight. Like if you just
went over the second half number for Josh Allen to
Lamar Jackson. I can understand why some people would would
go to Josh Allen, but I didn't. I looked at
every single game. I asked a lot of people I
respect and trust, coordinators and coaches who have gone against

(17:26):
both quarterbacks to give me their opinion. And Lamar was
just better. He was just better. And that's again, it's
the totality of the rest of the entire regular season
that has nothing to do with the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
No, it does have nothing to do to the playoffs. Okay,
so how do we like The juxtaposition of that was
some of the other quarterbacks who had good regular seasons
and didn't have good postseasons, right, that's where it gets
really interesting. You know, we talked about Herbert last week obviously,
you know, on a different scale, Sam Darnold, Like, this
is a guy that I'm talking about in Lamar could

(18:00):
win his third MVP Award and still has only been
to the AFC Championship Game once, never been to a
super Bowl. So I guess it's like, what does the
league actually say? Forget about what fans say or those
of us showing sports nobody that doesn't actually matter. What
does a league think about Lamar?

Speaker 4 (18:18):
Very tough to stop because he's a dual threat quarterback.
He's Josh Allen also, they're the two best dual threat quarterbacks.
But because of Lamar's ability to run, he accelerates, he
just is so explosive or Josh Allen. We've never seen
anyone that big run like the way he does. He's
one of a sidewinder. The league thinks he's Lamar's really good.
In fact, he's This season was his first year, you go,

(18:39):
you know what, he really became a developed passer. Because
let's be honest about it, Doug, you and I have talked.
We've known each other on and off for probably fifteen
twenty years. Lamar is a very unique quarterback because at
some point you've got to become a passor you just
can't be a runner. And he became a pastor this year.
He was I mean, by the way, he's a great stroke,
throws a beautiful ball. I mean, there's really nothing he
can't do. It's a shame that we didn't get him

(19:03):
to face I was secretly hoping that he'd face Mahomes
this week because Kansas City, by the way, their offense
doesn't looked very good, and it didn't really look good
the season quite frankly, was consistent. It wasn't a consistent
passing game. The run game has kind of gone south.
But they win. They find a way to win. We
got to give him credit. But getting back to Lamar,
he took a big step this season as a passer.
That's what people are in the league were saying, and

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he certainly has done that.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, what's
the state of the Eagles and their offense? Now?

Speaker 4 (19:31):
Oh boy, Well, just a couple of things, because I
know here in talk radio people are all upset about
the Eagles passing game. And I get it. It's regressed
this season. It started rest last season after a breakout
season in twenty two from Jalen Hurtroy's phenomenal runout for
the MVP. What's happened this season the Kella Moore look.
He runs his offense which is different from anything that
Jalen's played in, and throughout the season, Moore has been

(19:55):
scaling it back and scaling it back because it was
just the processing from her. It was just not good enough.
And then you know, you see a game against Pittsburg
where Jalen was phenomenal, better than probably any game we
played last year, and then it slows down a little bit.
And then last week by the way, Hurts hurts his
left knee A J. Brown's had this left knee injury
for about six weeks now. So there their passing offence

(20:16):
is suffered.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Now.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
Two plays happened last week. A a nine route down
the right sideline. AJ Brown dropped it. Okay that there
was a good pass by Hurts. Hurts also has a
post route to Devonte Smith. Devonte Smith dropped it. He
got sandwich between two players. I mean he Jalen was
probably just a little bit late, but the pass was
pass was accurate, and anyway, the Rams got called for

(20:39):
a personal foul anyway, So there are a couple of
players that you know that could have been completed, would
have put hurts over two hundred yards. But there are
passing game is a problem, and the way that Washington
is playing right now. Talking to them, they're they're not
playing there. Their belief is not this this playing with
house money stuff.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
They're not.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
They're not. They would acknowledge that nobody thinks they could win,
but they sure think they could win. And you know,
you see that line and I don't bet, but I
do talk about it on Sports Grid on Thursdays. I
could tell you that that that's six points if it
stays there, that I think Washington could certainly cover six
points the way that Degals were playing offense right now.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports trailer, Let's go
to the AFC side. You mentioned the Chiefs offense not
looking great. Feels like it's got to be the year, right,
I mean, like, if not this year for Buffalo win.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
Yeah, you know, I was talking to a coach and
actually an offensive coordinator whose team went against Buffalo this season.
He said, you know what, if you could protect, and
their front seven is phenomenal because they they're really good
at linebacker. They tackle well, they're very, very disciplined up front,
but they're not very good at corner. And he felt, listen,
if you could protect, you could throw against Buffalo like that,
That's what this cordnerator said, Like that was their game plan,

(21:47):
you know, to do that against Buffalo. So that's kind
of shown. Now again, you look last week, Lamar only
threw the he only dropped back twenty five times and
had eight complete, eighteen completions. It wasn't like you throwing
the ball all over the place, but over two hundred
and fifty yards. That to me is now if the
weather holds up and the early forecast, by the way,
is gonna be a little bit better in Kansas City.
It's not great, but that's a game where look, Buffalo

(22:11):
for whatever reason, is really good against Kansas City for
the most part in the regular season. They're not in
the postseason. You're right, at some point Buffalo's got to
get over the hump against them in the playoffs. But
the thing, the secret sauce of the Kansas City Chiefs
is their defense that are Steves Bagnolo, who you got
to give this guy credit. He's out of football for
a couple of years after the Saints let him go,

(22:34):
and he is now back and doing a phenomenal job
for a number of years, and he coached with Andy
Reid here in Philly. So that's going to be that
obviously is going to be a terrific game and when
it should be one of the best games of the season.
I just don't until the Bills could show me that
in a big moment they could get the pass and
run game going. That's the problem is they don't seem

(22:54):
to get it going at the same time. Other than
that game against the Rams, which is the high skate,
high scoring game of the season.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Who gets Cowboys, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
Well, Bron Schottenheimer has been like the dark horse now
as one Cowboys just told me, if Kellen Moore could
get to Monday, meaning that Jerry Jones doesn't change his
mind and wait for Kellen, if he doesn't wait for Kellen,
Brodn Shottenhammer's is a He's definitely a live candidate shot.
He's been there for a couple of years under Mike McCarthy. Obviously,
McCarthy's gone. Now. I don't know if you call my

(23:25):
favorite from ne Orleans, but he's got a good chance
to get that shot. He is a guy that a
lot of people think could be a good head coach,
and he's a really good corner A very smart guy.
By the way, he believes in analytics talking to people
know him. So I think he's got a real shot
to get it.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Okay, still got lib show here on Fox Sports Tradio.
What about the Raiders?

Speaker 4 (23:45):
That one is interesting, that one. John spy Tech's getting
that job, which I was told a week ago that
was going to happen. John spy Tech is personnel director
for the Bucks. Yeah, so that should that should get
announced within twenty four hours. I expect the top, but I
think it's kind of out there anyway. Look, I know
Liam Cohen staying. I was told yesterday they were working

(24:08):
on trying to get that restructure of his deal to
get more money so it doesn't go to Jacksonville. How
about Jacksonville now Trump Bulky's out as their general manager.
That's another story for another time. But the Raiders one
is kind of up in the air. It's been kind
of a tough sell someone will take it's one of
thirty two jobs because the uncertainty of the quarterback position
that that's kind of where that's at. And also wats

(24:28):
the Jets situation. General Manager Lance Newmark, who's the assistant
GM of the Commanders, is the favorite for that job.
But I'm a little surprised he hasn't gotten yet, so
as I understand, they're going to look at more candidates.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
S Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. Best
guess who plays for Super Bowl?

Speaker 4 (24:46):
Well, one of the teams. I did pick the Chiefs
and I'm not going to back off of it, and
I'm the Niners stouts that didn't make it. I'm I'm
gonna go Chiefs for sure. And right now, I definitely
like the Commandos plus the six I'm going to pick
the Eagles to win by three. I don't like the
direction of Eagles offense. I know that Saquon Barklay's superman

(25:07):
right now, but you can't depend on those touchdown runs.
I know they seem to happen, Doug, but to me,
it's just not the way to make your money, so
to speak, in the National Football League. And the weather,
by the way, is going to clear up. We're not
getting snow. We're going to get about forty probably forty
degrees warmest day of the week. It's single digits right
now in Philly. But I expect the Eagles to squeak by.

(25:29):
But you know what, here's another problem. Their kicker, Jake
Elliott's missed eight field goals this season after being arguably
the NFL's best kicker for three years.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
So who wins now?

Speaker 4 (25:39):
I'm picking. I'm picking the Eagles to win by three
in that game and the Super Bowl. Privately, the Chiefs
a rematch of two years ago, and Philly will go
out of their minds again facing Andy Reid, their former
head coach.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Great stuff as always Inside the Birds is the podcast.
Download that, of course, and you can hear Cap right
here on Fox Sports Radios or NFL Insider Adam. Enjoy
the weekend. I wait to talk to you next week.
Thanks so much.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
Cue it sounds good anytime.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
You know what that means? Right?

Speaker 2 (26:03):
What's up?

Speaker 1 (26:04):
I mean? I I ilo and I know you do
it a great job of of You're very funny. But
what do you think it means that Brady hired his
former college teammate.

Speaker 5 (26:18):
It means that I should have been a team manager
at Michigan in nineteen ninety nine. I might be the
new GM.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Okay, what do you really think it means?

Speaker 5 (26:30):
I mean, it's three degrees removed. So look, is the
guy totally not qualified? No, I'm sure he's he's very qualified.
But I'm just let's put it this away. I'm not
shocked that there are two layers of connection there.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Well, why wouldn't there be. I mean, I'm just I'm
saying honestly, like you think you're just going to hire
somebody you don't know, you don't know anything about, and
you just take at the interview like this is how
how jobs work.

Speaker 5 (26:58):
He's he's not the only guy who who was involved
in the decision, but it just goes to show the
weight of his influence in that decision.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Sure, he spent twenty years winning in the NFL, and
here's a guy who you know, he trusts and he
thinks knows player personnel there. They've worked together because remember
when he got there, he didn't have autonomy. Bray didn't
have autonomy, but he had to say and who they
brought in, who they didn't bring it in? And obviously
this was the guy. This is probably one of the
reasons he went to Tampa. Okay, so here's what it

(27:30):
means to me. I'm going to be interested in arians
or left which if they become involved in the in
the Raiders' job.

Speaker 6 (27:37):
Oh absolutely, I think the writings on the.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Wall right, of course it is. And this is this
is how business works, right, business works this way. It's again,
how did I get the Fox Sports Radio? Well, I
work with Scott Shapiro, who's our boss when as the
ESPN you know at the time before he got elevated,
like he was the lead producer for the number one
sports radio show in the country, And I got the

(28:00):
in there. And you work with a guy like, hey,
he's pretty good. I like him, Let's bring him over.
Same thing with Colin Right. People who work together and
you respect, you're like, oh, I like that guy. You
then work together elsewhere. That's how works with players as well.
It's not that hard to track. Like Ben Johnson Sean
Payton did this last year. He brought in guys from
the Saints that still had a little juice in the tank,

(28:22):
that knew he knew what he was doing, and you know,
we're we're all aligned on the same things. It makes
your transition way way easier, way easier. You have to
be able to do the job, that's important, but you
also have to have a relationship with the boss and

(28:44):
have be have your vision intertwined and have an understanding
of how each of you works. So again, and in
no way me being negative like very fun. It was
actually super fun. But it's more for fans out there, like, yeah,
Brady's hiring his boys, get him right?

Speaker 6 (29:04):
He is.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
You hire your boys that you believe can do the job.
You can't just hire guys because they're your boys. Would
you hire people you work with before? Then you empower them?

Speaker 7 (29:15):
Yes, Sam, I think he might hire a guy named
spy tech to avoid a spy gate two.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
How about that?

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Hmm, you've been working that one all day.

Speaker 7 (29:25):
I mean, the guy's name is spy Tech. How could
you not make the connection to spygate.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
It's pretty amazing. I don't know, you know, it's.

Speaker 7 (29:31):
Good, Thank you, thank you?

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Did you did you workshop that one?

Speaker 7 (29:35):
It's been the works for about ten minutest it you
got it?

Speaker 6 (29:38):
Probably explains why that offensive line coach for the Texans,
Tony and Flate is a candidate for the head coaching
job Tony and Flate.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
I thought it was the deflator. Maybe Inflate was the deflator?
Coming up next to The Doug Gottlieb Show. We're live
from the ti raq dot Com studios.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Hey's the Dog Got Leave Show. I got a Midway.
I think of midway that you're all gonna like, and
you know, we do this in a group talk and
what we do want to do for the midway? But
is that a photograph? What song is that? Why? Am

(30:26):
I guess? Photograph? Man? I think I am that guy.
Nineties was just better, although that might have been eighties.

Speaker 6 (30:37):
Definitely mid eighties.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Yeah, your way East.

Speaker 7 (30:39):
Now you were talking about snapshots at some point today,
so I thought about this song.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Got it the snapshot. We'll talk about this in the pod.
Is today is Caitlin Clark's birthday? Okay? What was she?
Twenty three or twenty four? Twenty three? Twenty three years old?
And I just I want people to take a snap
shot of the impact she has had on the entire

(31:08):
sports world. It's pretty remarkable. Or talk about that in
the pod. You can download the pod or we download podcast.
Just type in Doug Gottlieb and as soon as the
show's done, you also get the our bonus pod as well.
Let's get to a game with Isaac Lohnkron.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
I love what's the game today?

Speaker 5 (31:33):
But get your vows ready, Doug for better or worse?
All right, we'll start with the news. Dou jure better
or worse? Ben Johnson's Ben Johnson's chances or Aaron Glenn's
chances to win sooner? Of course, Ben Johnson, the new
head coach of the Chicago Bears, Aaron Glenn, the new

(31:56):
head coach of the New York Jets.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Want to go with Ben Johnson. I do think NFC
North schedule more difficult, but they started to rewire some
of the talent last year for offensive talent. I thought
they were closed this year, and I think in year two,
Caleb williems to be better. I think Ben Johnson has
a good vision obviously offensively, he's a creative play caller.
But the biggest thing is they have their quarterback. Where
was I don't think the Jets have their quarterback on

(32:21):
the roster.

Speaker 5 (32:22):
Right on, right on, Sorry, Jets, you guys lose again,
all right? Better or worse the Raiders' head coaching job
or the New Orleans Saints head coaching job.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Wow?

Speaker 5 (32:38):
Yeah, lesser of two evils.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Yeah, I'll go with Saints. I again, I don't know
if Derek Carr is back next year, but at least
they have somebody on the roster who's been a playoff
quarterback before. I also don't think that division is great.
Whereas I think the Chargers are going to get better,
the Broncos are going to get better. I think Chiefs
shir you know, have a great chance to go to
the Super Bowl. So I'll go again. If the question

(33:07):
is better or worse, more likely to win sooner, I'll
go Saints over Raiders.

Speaker 6 (33:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (33:12):
AFC West, by the way, the only division of the
conference that had three double digit win teams last year.
Better or worse the Jacksonville Jaguars head coaching job or
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers offensive coordinator job. This, of course,
on the heels of not only the departure of Trent Balky,
but also Buccaneers offensive coordinator Liam Cohen, saying thanks, but no,

(33:35):
thanks to the Jaguars. I'll stay as the Bucks offensive coordinator.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
I think Jags is a better job. Jags a better job.

Speaker 5 (33:45):
Okay, yeah, all right, let's get into the tinfoil hat
area of the program. Better or worse? Love this conspiracy theory. Yeah,
that the NFL wants the Chiefs to win, or that
the NFL is scripted.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
What's uh uh? The NFL is scripted is worse?

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Okay, scripted is worse.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
I mean it's really really dumb, dumb talk. All right,
don't get me wrong. I don't think the NFL wants
the Chiefs to win. I just think, you know, the
best players have a tendency to get calls. That's what
I'm going with. Maybe that's why we can't get a call.

Speaker 7 (34:33):
You can always find the guy commenting on x formerly
known as Twitter. You see Kaymie Fairborn, fair baron of
the Texans miss his extra point. You scroll a couple
comments down and says, oh, NFL, it's just fixed, man,
it's fit.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
It's fixed.

Speaker 7 (34:47):
You think Kymie Fairburn wants to miss that extra point
like he could lose his job from that.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
It's not fixed.

Speaker 5 (34:52):
You maybe they have a homing device inside the football.
I mean, maybe there's like a miniature inside the football.
I mean I think of all those uprights that have
been hit for various convenient reasons.

Speaker 7 (35:03):
It's been a year of doink. This year really has
and in college football.

Speaker 5 (35:06):
Positive doinks or negative doinks?

Speaker 2 (35:08):
All right?

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (35:09):
Better or worse? O oh boy, this is gonna tick
off some people.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Better or worse?

Speaker 5 (35:15):
Mike, Mike too Rico or Mike Breen this of course
on the heels of the announcement today, then Mike t
Rico will bend the new lead play by play announcer
for NBC's new NBA package, Mike to Rico or Mike Breen. Wow,
yeah bang.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Uh for for NBA play at play. Yeah, why'd you
have to ask you this?

Speaker 5 (35:42):
I know?

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Mike Breen at pure NBA play by play I do
think is better. We just had Tariko on. Rico's better
all around. Tariko has this warmth about him as a
human being if you ever worked with him, like, oh,
we're friends, but the first time we met, I felt
like we were friends for twenty years. I don't know
bring that well. I love his calls of the NBA.

(36:07):
Can I go push? I'm gonna go push.

Speaker 5 (36:09):
Okay, that's fine, but I do.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Think that his bang call and he just sounds like
big NBA games.

Speaker 5 (36:14):
And finally, better or worse, the nickname the Phoenix or
the Jaguars, not in this case the Jacksonville Jaguars. But iupui.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
It's now IUI just so you know, Purdue pulled out,
so it's Indiana University in Annapolis.

Speaker 5 (36:29):
That makes it less complicated.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
It does a phoenix right, It's a mythical creature. It
rises from the ashes. We need to rise from our
own ashes of the season, no question. It's the Doug
Gotliep Show, Fox Sports Radio. It's the middle of the week,
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