September 30, 2024 • 39 mins
Doug and the crew explain why they loved most and hated most in today's version of "Love AND Hate". Doug welcomes former NFL player and FSR host Rich Ohrnberger onto the show to talk about the Bucs, Aaron Rodgers and all of the other major topics around the NFL. Plus, Monse Bolanos takes Doug through a Monday edition of "The Press".
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two matchups.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I mean, I understand that if you have a really
really good game and then you have another game you like,
it can be distracting. But let's be honest, neither of
these last week the games one was good, one was not.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
It was easy. This week I have one game.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I just I can't see myself paying much attention to
Miami and Tennessee. Yeah, I just it's more football. The
only thing you get is you get a little bit
more of a watered down Sunday, but not much so
without further ado, what we do is we gather all
of our emotions and information from the weekend and we
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bring it to you. We'll love and hate.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
What did you love?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
God? I love you?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
And what did you hate?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
These player?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Hay is.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Okay, Let's let's start with you, Monci. I know you
worked this weekend. You paid attention to do it all,
especially to baseball. Tell them what you loved.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
I'm gonna tell you what I love, and it has
something to do with sports. Is something I did this weekend.
It's spooky season, Halloween. I love Halloween. I love getting scared.
The scarier the better. Am I going to have a nightmare?
Speaker 6 (01:51):
I love it? Are you?
Speaker 7 (01:53):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
I was gonna say, can I pee my pants?
Speaker 6 (01:54):
I don't know if I can say that? But you
got what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
I allow it. The better, the scarier, the better is
what I'm saying. So this weekend I did a thing
that I do every year called Delusion. It's like an
interactive haunted experience. So it's like an hour long and
it's a storyline and you are part of the story.
And it was spooky and fun and it wasn't the
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scariest thing.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
But I love this season.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
It's my favorite time and I try and get in
as many things as I can, which is why I
did it this weekend when it's still September, because there's
many things to do every weekend for the month of October.
When it comes to spookiness. And if you're curious what
the story was, it was this doctor whose wife had
recently died and he was using his patients. We were
the patients to try and bring her back, and he
obviously can't. But it was spooky and fun. Loved it, loved.
Speaker 8 (02:42):
It, So you just made it obvious to I love it.
An entire workspace of people that you love being scared?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yes, so do you.
Speaker 8 (02:51):
Like if you're walking around the corner you want to
be scared and you love it? Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 9 (02:55):
Sure?
Speaker 5 (02:55):
But it's like, I mean, Mike tries to scare me,
Ryan Smith tries to scare me.
Speaker 8 (03:01):
Mike scares you just being big mic.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
He thinks he's, you know, sneaky, and he is actually
for this thing away from sneaky. So it doesn't work.
Bryan Smith has got me once or twice and then
I like, jump up.
Speaker 8 (03:17):
You're saying Big Mic is like a zombie, like come
up so slow? How could he possibly kill you?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Exactly exactly, Jason Stewart sent me left on the weekend.
Speaker 8 (03:30):
Derrick Henry, I'm going to ask the three of you
to fact check me here, but I don't know what
you guys. Tell me. How long that one rush was
for a touchdown last night f seventy five yards.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
Or it was eighty seven eighty five.
Speaker 8 (03:44):
So I think that was an amazing example of how
gifted this person is. Kyle Brant today said that they
did the math going back to his high school days tackles.
He's been tackled six thousand times. He's thirty years old.
At thirty you typically take a turn for the worse,
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but he's as powerful and fast as he's ever been.
At thirty years old. You're not supposed to outrun NFL
defensive backs. But last night, when he got into open space,
DeMar Hamlin and a defensive back I don't know the
name of had an angle on him, and he outran
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the angle, Like you're not supposed to do that. At
thirty years old and sixty six thousand, tackles in like
he's a complete freaking nature. I think this diet went
viral last week. How he has this very restrictive diet
and I don't know how he consumes enough carves or
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protein to even be powerful, but he does. Whatever this
guy's doing, I think everybody should do it. Amazing.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
No, he probably cut out pizza and sugar. I'm not
doing that.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
Definitely not doing that.
Speaker 8 (05:02):
Yeah, he's definitely cutting out those things, but he eats
very little.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Oh my gosh, there's so funny.
Speaker 6 (05:07):
It was.
Speaker 10 (05:09):
It was eighty seven yards and man, he looks intimidating
in that uniform too. He is a galloping ghost out
there and he looks.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
Fresh and good for him, good for him, Like, oh yeah,
it's great for him.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah, I am not doing them.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
I'm not doing that.
Speaker 10 (05:25):
Do you guys remember a few weeks ago we kind
of wondered, like who would make it out of the
division into playoff mode, like the Bengals or the Ravens.
I think it's going to be the Ravens. The Ravens
look equipped, they look like they just got off to
a slow start, but they're going to figure this out.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Yeah, that Raiders loss I think was a blessing in
disguise for them. They had to put it in gear quick.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
You I would agree with that.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, you know, I thought Justin Field's inability to do anything,
and then you know, they had some fumbles, they had
some other stuff. But but look, Pittsburgh's defense is better
than the Ravens defense, But the Ravens offense is better
than Pittsburgh's offense. Cleveland's obviously not doing it in Cincinnati
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feels like they're better, but still feels like they're missing something.
But if you think they lost two games, I would
say that they're they're going to make the playoffs. I
don't know if they win the division, I don't know.
It's I mean, super competitive, but right now, the Browns
not being great is probably the is the one thing
that keeps them from me in such a dynamic division
if if you like, I can get you know, two
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wins from one team. So, Jason Stewart, something you left
from the weekend?
Speaker 8 (06:36):
Yeah, I just gave you the entire I'm sorry, I mean,
allow me to give you some details. During the season,
he doesn't doesn't eat his first meal until four or
five pm. Okay, stays away from fried foods, gluten, dairy,
artificial sugars. He says, we'll eat three chicken breasts, some
rice and broccoli and then do it again. He'll have
some gluten free pancakes if he wants to, Uh, if
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he wants.
Speaker 6 (06:59):
To cheat indulge, that's his indulge.
Speaker 8 (07:02):
I don't know how he has enough energy to get
through the day, let alone, you know, stave off NFL tackle.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
That has to be like, is there massive amounts of water?
Is he drinking electro like drink? What's what's he doing?
What else is he doing?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
But again, like if you're eating chicken breasts in broccoli
and you're eating him in a condensed period of time,
I mean, if you look at his body, it seems
to be working.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (07:22):
He spends two hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year
on nutrition and fitness regiment.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Well, his trainer. Have you guys ever seen.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
The videos of him working out?
Speaker 8 (07:39):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Do you notice anything about his his uh? His trainer.
So his trainer is a friend of mine. His name
is Melvin Sanders. Melvin played basketball, ok stayed after us.
And you look at Melvin and you're like, and Melvin's
he's not quite he's probably early forties, but I mean
it could looks like he's like a twenty five twenty
six old athlete played made the NBA, playing for the Spurs,
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former state triple jump champion in Kansas. Like also just
an absolute positive freak. So and he's the guy in
the DFW in the summer that all the NFL guys
go to. So I'll give you something I loved over
the weekend. I love Sam Donald getting the win in
green Bay. You know we can sit here and go, hey,
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you know, green Bay turnovers early with with Jordan Love,
and the weather's not bad and he had a good
start when he was in Carolina or whatever.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
But the Jordan loves the the well, I missay.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Why I keep saying Jordan Love when I'm talking about
the other quarterback. I just if you if it's not
just that I have been a card carrying member of
the Sam Donald fan club since he was back at USC,
it's that it does speak to sticking with it, finding
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somebody who gets to you. You're playing for a former
backup quarterback. You've been a backup quarterback, you've been a starter,
but The biggest thing is like, it makes the Vikings
look like they're competently run, and it makes the Jets
look completely incompetent, which they were and a granted different GM,
different head coach at the time, but really really interesting
and I just love that story.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
I really do.
Speaker 10 (09:20):
Go ahead, Sammy, Well, my contribution for the love portion
of this fine segment is actually, it's not about Iowa,
It's about Iowa State. Iowa was on a bye week,
so I switched my attention to watching the Cyclones, who
are undefeated and now up to sixteenth in the nation,
definitely a threat in the Big twelve Conference. Listen, Iowa
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is a small state. It's only three million people or so,
So don't we look at Iowa State. I think Ioa
State looks at Iowa fans as like we're cousins, you know,
We're we're not rivals. Like we definitely put a lot
of passion behind the Syhawk game, but for the most part,
we kind of we love each other. We're all we're
just cousins, you know, We're the other side of the
pond cross the state. Iowa State is off to its
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best start since the year two thousand, where they went
nine and three. They've never won more than nine games
in a season ever, which is pretty crazy. But they
are four and oh for the first time since two
thousand after they shut out Houston in a conference game
twenty to nothing on Saturday. It took a while for
them to get there. It was like three nothing until
like I think the fourth quarter, and then they put
them away. But this is a big deal because Iowa
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State's undefeated and Dan Campbell with that win, he passed
Dan McCarney for most wins in program history with fifty
seven fifty seven wins dug and it was their first
shutout in conference on the road since nineteen seventy one.
They're now up to sixteenth in the country, so this
is a big deal. This is a big deal for
a Cyclones program that listen. They've They've still got heights
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to reach under Matt Campbell, and I'm kind of happy
to see them to see them do this. They did
beat Iowa, but they got that out of the way
and now I feel like they have a big season
in front of them.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
So good for them.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
All right, let's get to what we hated from the weekend,
as it is love and hate.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Jay s dou hate away.
Speaker 8 (11:19):
Yeah, you know what I hate. I hate people that
would much rather stand around with smartphone cameras and take
video of near death fights than actually tried to break
something up or de escalate. I don't know if any
of you saw this, but over the weekend there was
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a fight at the Falcon Saints game and reportedly one
of the men that was getting his head stomped almost
lost his life. Oh man, the video is vicious, It's brutal.
It was shared a million times on wine. And the
reason why I know that is because they're There were
like six different angles on this fight, six different you know,
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smartphone users who thought it would be cool to post
the fight as opposed to get involved. I don't know
where our society is going. I thought that civilizations were
supposed to evolve, but the vicious nature has gotten worse
on these fights. There's always been fights at games. You
could say that smartphones have just increased our visibility on it.
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But I swear over the past couple of years, the
viciousness and potential deadliness of these fights is getting worse.
Somebody is going to die in one of these fights.
I think it's a matter of when and not if.
And I hope that every single person that took a
smartphone video of that person getting killed loses sleep at
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night if they're not indicted for not stepping in and
preventing the dead. It's a very dark, uh direction that
our society is going at soccer Wholigans has been the
thing for decades in underdeveloped countries. Are we really going
to be that country where our citizens citizenry are killing
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other people at sporting events?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I think right now the answer is yes, until something's done.
But you're right.
Speaker 10 (13:23):
I'm totally with Jason on the people just recording things
on their cell phone instead of intervening and helping. I
just I see it all the time, and yes, it's
given us much more access to disturbing videos. But at
one point, at what point do you just, you know,
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put the phone down down and intervene. I just it's
it's cowardly. So I definitely hear you on that one.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Jason Monci sent me hate It for the weekend.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
I hated two things. One of them happening right now.
My phone does not work. Doug Yes is having some
sort of outage and my phone is not working, and
it's very annoying. It's like, how do we live without phones?
But I'm not the one also using my phone to
record fights that I'm with you guys on all of that.
But I really really hated that the Chargers did not
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beat the Chiefs. The Chiefs not that they're not good,
but they're definitely beatable. And they've won out nine or
ten in a row, all of them, all of them
except for one game against Miami Dolphins last year, have
been one score games. And I really thought the Chargers
had a legit chance. I know, no Joe Alt, and
I know that you know, Justin Herbert is a little
big gimpy right now, but he I thought it was
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there and we just couldn't do it.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
And I hated that.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I would say it.
Speaker 10 (14:43):
Okay, I'm gonna do my best here to summarize this
story that's a little convoluted, a lot of context involved.
It's about a week in the making here. And credit
to Jason though for bringing the Christine Brennan side of
this to my attention today. So let's just start here.
Dj A Carrington has played Kaitlin Clark several times over
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the season. She has guarded her extremely hard. She's all
over like a Mustard Stain. So they met in the
WNBA playoffs last week and djon A Carrington for the
Connecticut Sun was, you know, defending Kaylyn Clark as she
always does, and a very very intense all over her.
And she at one point her hand flipped up at
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some point and kind of swatted Kaitlin under the eye,
gave her a little little shiner, a little black eye.
And Christine Brennan now enters the equation and she's been
a sports journalist for a long time. She's worked for
USA Today. She's a columnist, she's a reporter. She's long
been in the corner of women's sports, and the WNBA
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should be plenty familiar with her. She went up to
dj A Carrington after that game, after that first win
last week, and asked her this about the ie poking incident.
Speaker 7 (15:59):
When you went and kind of swatted at Caitlin, did
you intend to hit her in the eye, and if so,
could you just earth not out either way? Could you
talk about what happened on that play.
Speaker 11 (16:11):
I just I don't even know why I would intend
to hit anybody in the eye.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
That doesn't even make sense to me.
Speaker 11 (16:16):
But no, I didn't. I didn't know I hit her. Actually,
I was trying to make a play on the ball
and I guess I followed through and I hit her.
So obviously it's never intentional. That's not even like the
type of player that I am.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
So yeah, did you and Marina kind of laugh about
it afterwards? It looked like huge it was later on
the game they caught you guys laughing about it.
Speaker 11 (16:35):
No, I just told you I didn't even know I
hit her, So I can't laugh about something I didn't
know happened.
Speaker 10 (16:42):
All right, So we'll get back to the original question
in a little bit. So after that question was asked
and DJA gave her response to Christine Brennan, social media
did its thing where it reared its toxic head, and
Christine's question became It started to re around this idea
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of you know, she's on like the Caitlin Clark side.
She's trying to drum up all this controversy with race
and gender and sexual orientation. And the WNBA's Player Association
really felt threatened by Christine Brennan's question and her intentions
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and motives behind it, and they put out this statement
very sharp criticism of Brennan. They wrote to unprofessional members
of the media like Christine Brennan. You are not fooling anyone.
That so called interview in the name of journalism was
a blatant attempt to bait a professional athlete into participating
into a narrative that is false and designed to fuel racist, homophobic,
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and misogynistic vitriol on social media. You cannot hide behind
your tenure. Instead of demonstrating the cornerstones of journalism ethics
like integrity, objectivity, and a fundamental commitment to truth, you
have chosen to be indecent and downright insincere and late. Listen,
they weren't done there. They kind of insinuate, like maybe
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you should have your credentials taken away, YadA, YadA, and
so forth. They're accusing her of bias and ulterior motives,
when first of all, they should be very familiar with
who this person is.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
She's been around.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Christine Brennan is just not good at her joy Like
the questioning questions were awful.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
The question the questions were bad, but they.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Weren't with the intent of doing anything other than trying
to get to the story. Whether or not she did
it on purpose, Yes, she went straight to DJ Kenny
here's the thing. If you're gonna go after Christine Brennan
with that sort of of energy, like you're gonna run
out of people who wanted who care. Listen, I'll make
this really clear to the w NBA players. Okay, these
are way better. They're way better than they ever used
to be. Okay, the game, the sport evolving, it's good.
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Kaitlyn Clark has raised it to a whole new level.
But you're a bunch of clowns, and you make it
so that we just it's not like now I have
to really make a choice. In the summer, there wasn't
much anything going on, but I got college football, I
got pro football, I got the NBA's getting ready to
get underway.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Right.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
We have Major League Baseball in the playoffs, which we
just had maybe the game of the year with the
Mets clinching a playoff spot against the Atlanta Braves.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Another one kind of coming up against the Braves.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Like you gotta I gotta want to watch, not just
there's nothing else on and I super super super super.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Don't want to watch.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I just it's just like you can't question somebody's motives
or you're a racist, or your sex sister or a
homophobia or whatever, like just.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Go away, just go away.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
And honestly, this whole act makes me want the league
to go back to the near bankruptcy days, you know,
like where they had the the Houston Comets won like
the first four titles, then they went bankrupt, you know,
and they're vassively overspending because they think that this sport
is on the rise, Like let's see what happens next year.
Because you just all these new customers, you turn them off.
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This is a restaurant that's been open for a long time.
It's been saying like why don't we get any attention?
Then it's got this one meal. You know, they make
this cheesecake and everybody keeps asking for the cheesecake. You're like, hey,
what about this whole other menu? Like the El Mini
is fine, but I like the cheesecake, So I'm going
to the cheesecake.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Imagine the cheesecake.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Factory, like, hey, not only do we not have cheesecake,
but you asking for cheesecake offends me?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Offends me.
Speaker 10 (20:25):
Can I just put a pin on this? I I
don't like Christine Brennan's question. I think it was kind
of silly of course, she didn't intend to hit her
in the face, and even she did, she would never
admit to that.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
So I get it. She's allowed to ask that question.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I think know how to ask a better question.
Speaker 10 (20:42):
Hold on, but the reaction from the w NBA PA
is way over the top. That's really what I have
a problem, way.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
At the top. Correct. Both of these things can be true.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Christine Brennan can ask bad questions and not be a sexist, homophobe.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Whatever she's mean used.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
They're not proportional reaction.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Nobody thinks that she is.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
But like this sport forever correct.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
And she's She's the columnist that you know, like Boston
guy tries to get to make everything about Boston right,
like doing moves moving Boston, like we don't retire to
hear about Boston. She's the person who in the columnists
will always as a columnist, will always try and bring
something back to talking about women's sports. So yeah, that
that annoys that, That more than annoys me.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Wait, I didn't get to what I hated from the weekend.
Speaker 8 (21:23):
Sounds like you hated the Christine Brennan store.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I did, but he already had that. Why are you
taking that from me?
Speaker 6 (21:30):
Why you can co sign on it.
Speaker 8 (21:33):
How about you with Rich Horberger.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
I'll share it. I hate with Rich Hornberger. That's that's
what we'll do. That's love it.
Speaker 7 (21:38):
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Lot Doug gotlib show Fox Sports Radio. A lot of
things you want to get to. In regards to the NFL,
I mean, just kind of some weird outcomes as well.
And that's really the other part. Like the games weren't
crazy compelling yesterday, I didn't think I watched all of them. Obviously,
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Indies win with Joe Flacco was interesting. Atlanta surviving New Orleans.
And Orleans had looked like world beaters the first two
weeks this season. Now they're at two and two after
an another couple losses. The Bears escape the Rams, Rams
keep fighting despite the fact they're incredibly depleted. Probably the
most surprising was Denver's win over the Jets. But it's
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not like they're getting great quarterback play. We got to
talk about the Eagles falling on their face in Tampa
and oh yeah, by the way what Tom Brady said
about what Baker Mayfield said, you know it can help
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It's all presented by Bett MGM. All right, I want
I want to ask you about about Brady. I'm sure
you've heard this by now. This was Baker Mayfield in
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the podcast. Going back to last week.
Speaker 12 (23:18):
The building was a little bit different with Tom in there. Obviously,
playing wise, Tom was different. He had everybody dialed in
high strong environments, so I think everybody was pretty stressed out.
So they wanted me to come in and be myself,
you know, bring the joy back to football a little
bit for guys that weren't having as much fun.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Okay, and then here's Tom Brady on the broadcast sad quote.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
They wanted me to come in, be myself, bring the
joy back to football for guys.
Speaker 8 (23:41):
That weren't having as much fun.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
It's funny because you've made this environ room for me
very stressful up here in the booth.
Speaker 8 (23:46):
So I understand where he's coming from.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Your field.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I know was best well.
Speaker 13 (23:50):
I was gonna say, I thought stressful was not having
Super Bowl rings. So there was a mindset of a
champion that I took to work every day.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
This wasn't daycare.
Speaker 13 (24:02):
If I wanted to have fun, I was gonna go
to Disneyland with my kids. Great, great, great, As you
were saying, go ahead, that's you feel like.
Speaker 8 (24:12):
I feel like there's more in there to say.
Speaker 13 (24:14):
There's a way to approach this game, and it's that
with the with the right mindset and try to push
each other outside of our comfort zoning.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Great teammates do that you come in.
Speaker 13 (24:23):
I have someone like Gronkowska, I have someone like Evans.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
There's high expectations for us.
Speaker 13 (24:28):
We've got to make sure we go out there and deliver.
Speaker 9 (24:30):
The competitive juice is still flowing still in there.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I love no apologies, Luimberg, would you I mean it's
your former teammate.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
What do you think when you heard that back and forth?
Speaker 9 (24:41):
I agree with Tom Brady. I look, I mean, there
are a lot of professions where you can show up
every day and make the best of it and have
a ton of fun. I think we happen to work
in one of them. I think broadcasting is what you
make of it. I'm sure to a certain extent there's other,
maybe lower stakes professions that you could make that same argument.
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I mean, I know that you know children's education is
on the line, but I had teachers who made the
classroom environment fun. It wasn't so strict, it wasn't so stressful,
and I think you can get away with that in
certain professions. In football, I mean, there's definitely the way
to go about it where you're having a ton of
fun and the results may vary. And then there's the
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way that Tom Brady was sort of raised in the
NFL doing it where everybody walked on eggshells every day
in New England. With the success that he helped start
in New England and carry on for two decades is
the reason why he was recruited in free agency by
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and an enormous reason why they
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were able to net a Super Bowl championship while he
was their starting quarterback. I agree with Tom looks work,
it's not always going to be fun in a high
stakes environment. You know, you work on Wall Street or
if you have a job, you know where lives are
on the line. You know where it's fight stressed, and
you know human lives weigh in the balance. Maybe you
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know a first responder and member of the military. I mean,
mistakes can be stuper consequential, and much more so than
in the game of football. But in the game of football,
I mean we've seen this a million times over. Mistakes
are highly amplified. And it doesn't matter at what point
in the season, because we can rewind back to week
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four or week five, you know, earlier in the season
to see when problems started or when certain trends began,
and those can be damaging trends at the end of
the year. And Tom Brady always tried to nip those
at the bud and tried to be a champion every
single day. And yeah, maybe that rubbed some people the
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wrong way, maybe that created a stressful work environment, but
you cannot argue with the success that he had over
his marvelous career.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
No, you definitely can't. Let's talk about that game for
a second again. What's wrong with the Philadelphi Eagles.
Speaker 9 (27:13):
Well, I'll tell you what. Defensively, what Levante David was
able to do, you know, from the linebacker position was unbelievable.
He had one of his finest games in recent memory.
I think the Buccaneers also, you know, that was on
the defensive side for the Bucks. Offensively, they took advantage
of the Philadelphi Eagles defense. They like to play that
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coverage shell, kind of that stop covered shell. They don't
want to give up the big play. But they got
nickel and dimed all the way down the field and
they could not find the answers. Offensively, I think the
Eagles are obviously hurt. You know, they were operating without
their star tackle Lane Johnson, their star wide receivers aj
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Brown and the Vonte Smith, and they look like they
kind of didn't get off the bus, getting out gained
by almost two hundred yards in the first quarter. But
there's some serious issues in Philadelphia in terms of the culture.
It feels like there obviously was maybe an issue at
the end of the season last year with Nick Sirianni
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how the messaging was being received by the players down
the stretch of the season losing six straight games, because
it feels like there's been a little bit of a
hangover since they appeared in the Super Bowl and and
now all those those those chickens have come to roost.
You know it just this does not feel like the
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same team it felt like when they were on that
tear and made it all the way to the final
game of the season and lost to the Chiefs. Culturally,
it's fallen apart. And I mean, the easiest look is
to see the brain drain when she sint Stiken took
the Indianapolis Colt job and Jonathan Gannon took the Arizona
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Cardinals job, because they haven't looked the same since.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
No, they have not looked close to the same.
Speaker 9 (29:14):
I get.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
It's a great story.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Joe Flacco comes in, saves the day, But where are
we on Anthony Richardson and his development as a quarterback.
Speaker 9 (29:22):
Your most important ability in the NFL is your availability,
So he's not going to develop if he can't play.
And as exciting of a player as he is when
he's on the field, it is a concerning trend when
you can't keep healthy in this league and you're owed
and paid as much money as Anthony Richardson has been
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paid and what he's owed and how little production there's been.
But now it's two straight seasons where his understudy has
had to come into the game and make it right.
And Joe Flacco is no slouch. We've seen him do
this before in the past. Obviously last year with the Browns,
he jumped right in there, scored a touchdown immediately almost
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through for two hundred yards, and it was a mix
of some short throws and some deep throws that we've
all kind of embraced throughout the course of his career
that he is going to gamble sometimes and sometimes that's
going to come up short. We saw that in the
postseason last year with the Browns. But man, he's got
great arm strength, he's got great football IQ. He anticipates things,
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and even though he's been with the Colts for a
shorter time than Anthony Richardson, I felt like that offense
looked more calm and composed with him under center, and
frankly with Gardner Minshew under center than it has at
any point with Anthony Richardson. So, like I said, this
all stems back to his availability. You got to be
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able to stay on the field so that you can
earn those reps so that you can continue growing as
a quarterback. Otherwise, here, within the next call it sixteen
games or so, the Colts are going to have to
make a decision, you know. And I'm saying sixteen because
this will probably leach over into next year to see
if he's viable. But this is exactly what happened with
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Trey Lance and the San Francisco forty nine ers. He
couldn't stay healthy, he couldn't stay on the field, so
they had to move on from him, and that could
be the story with the Colts and Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Rich Orenberger
is in fact our guest. Last two games, nobody can
tackle Derrick Henry. First couple games felt like Lamar Jackson's
accuracy was in question. It hasn't been nearly as big
an issue because no one's been able to stop Derrick Henry.
Is this a recipe for success in the postseason for Baltimore?
Speaker 9 (31:44):
It is, but it's all incumbent upon their run game.
So the Baltimore Ravens are one of the greatest front
running teams in the league and in recent memory. This
is a team that is built to play with the lead.
So when you your first play from scrimmage can rattle
off an eighty seven yard touchdown run and play with
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the comfy lead for the rest of the night, you're
going to look like world beaters. You're going to take
any team to task, and we saw that against a
very talented Bills team, and also much improve Baltimore Ravens defense.
We got to give credit there because they were able
to hem up with the Bills were doing, which, by
the way, the Bills out to play a little bit
more one dimensional than they like to play, because they
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were trailing during this game, and they're trailing big at times,
so that definitely takes away some of the things available
to you as an offense as a game progresses. But
the Baltimore Ravens, they want to play bullyball. They want
to put the ball on the ground, they want to
throw the ball close to line of scrimmage, they want
to throw the ball over the middle, and all that
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becomes easier when coverage starts creeping up closer and closer
line of scrimmage to handle the biggest issues, which are
Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson in the run game. As
long as they stay out as situations where they're trailing
by seven points in the second half, where they're trailing
by two scores in the first half, then this is
what the Baltimore Ravens are gonna look like because they're
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built to play with the lead. But if they get behind, man,
you can't trust Lamar Jackson in those situations because he
struggles to throw the football deep down the field and
he's always struggled throwing the football out toward the sideline.
Then the issue with the Ravens every time they get
to the postseason, and that's the reason why Lamar Jackson
has struggled in the postseason, because when the game's in
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his hands and he needs to play from behind, he
oftentimes struggles to deliver in those moments.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Yeah, and Derek Henry has been great either. He wears
down as the season goes on and seemly becomes stop
bull as well. It's going to be a fascinating thing
to look at. Rich great stuff. Rich Omberger check him
out every weekday in San Diego or our Countdown to Kickoff.
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Speaker 2 (33:56):
Rich appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Be sure to catch the live edition of the Doug
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Speaker 1 (34:09):
Doug Gottlabs Show Fox Sports Radio every day. This time
we try and get you up in as many stories
as possible. We do so by getting to the press.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
The press.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Hello there, Moncy Bologos. What we have in the press?
Speaker 5 (34:23):
Hey, coach, We are gonna start with what just happened.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
Not long ago.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
It maybe September, but for Francisco Lindor and the Mets,
it's already October.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Johnson ready his first pitch, till Indoor swinging a high
fly ball, well hit right center, Harris going back.
Speaker 8 (34:40):
That's all the way that is gone. End of the
bride bull padded light center field.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Francisco Lindor has an MVP moment, whether he wins water
or not. Hey has just put up Mets back on
top eight to seven.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
This was the top of the ninth Mets radio network.
They win Game one after being down, so the Mets
are headed to the playoffs in the National League. They've
clinched a spot. So now it's Game two, which is
starting in about ten minutes or so. The Braves were
originally gonna have Chris Sales start for Game two. They've
scratched them because of back spasms. Grant Holmes is gonna
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start in a must.
Speaker 14 (35:20):
Win game for the Braves New Homes what so home
so at Holmes New York is using Joey Lussi, who
has an ERA of ten point three eight.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
So we'll see how it goes again. If the Bets
they split this doubleheader, both of them make it. If
for whatever reason, the Mets sweep the Braves, then the
Diamondbacks get in.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
All right, let's move on to the NBA.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
I know we had a big weekend of the NFL
doug but let's move on to the NBA, and let's
start with the big trade that did happen this weekend.
Julius Randall, Karl Anthony Towns, Dante DiVincenzo. Everybody is on
the move between this Knicks Tea, Wolves, Hornets trade. Even
though Ramona Shelbourne did tweet yesterday that this is not
a one hundred percent official like it's happening, but it's not
one hundred percent official yet, and so these players aren't
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at their media days. That's happening right now in the NBA.
Do you like this trade, Julius Randall going to Minnesota
in exchange for Carl Anthony Towns. Dante DiVincenzo also headed
to Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yeah, I mean, look, it's a poorly kept secret that
Kat wanted to get back to New York. His former
agent runs the Knicks, and he's from He's from Jersey.
Plus the way he plays like he's a prolific three
point shooter as a center, and the way that Jalen
Brunson plays where he's unbelievable getting the lane.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
It's it's almost like you're inverting your offense.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
So he makes a lot of money, and you know,
obviously Minnesota felt like they hit whatever ceiling and he
hit plays some in the playoffs form, so they had
him and Gobert and they're like, well they got to
get rid of one of them, and they chose Kat,
which is weird. So now, I mean, Julius Randall and
go birt. Does that work?
Speaker 6 (37:02):
I don't see it.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
I don't know. Maybe they make it.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
There's another move coming so Minnesota, I remember you got
a potential ownership change. Maybe maybe not. I don't know
what happens there. But for the Knicks, Yeah, this this works.
The only thing about kat is he has a reputation
to be in a bit soft.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
And Tom Thibodeau as a coach does not seem like
coach soft guys.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
That's gonna be fascinating.
Speaker 5 (37:25):
That's kind of what I'm wondering. Can he handle the
New York Spotlight media attention.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
I don't think it's a New York Spotlight. I just
think it's who you work for and you play for.
And like Tibbs is a guy who plays the starters
too much and they get worn down. And that's a
guy that a lot of people think, will you know,
take a couple more days off that need be Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
Yeah, I'm curious to see how it works because I
also feel like it's almost like you're kind of doing
the same thing.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
But I like what you said.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
He's a three point shooter, kind of clearing the line
for Jalen Brunson, So that makes perfect sense. All right, So,
as mentioned, media days are happening in the NBA. Dream
Green was not a big fan of a question asked today, Doug,
check it out.
Speaker 9 (38:04):
You know, people worry about you, fans, maybe your teammates.
Speaker 8 (38:08):
Are they worried about me?
Speaker 4 (38:09):
I am a successful black man in America doing incredibly well.
Speaker 8 (38:13):
What's the worry worrying about you?
Speaker 4 (38:15):
There are way more people in this world to worry
about than me.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
That's for sure. But we're here now, so we're all here.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
I think you should worry about me.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Okay, I'm doing pretty well.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
If you would if you would have told me when
I was thirteen years old and Saginaw, Michigan without a
potable that you'd be sitting here and somebody would say
they're worried about you, I would have probably told them
they were out of their mind. If I'd be sitting
here and they'd be worried about me.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Oh, Draymond, that's a weird question.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
I mean it was weird that obviously it was worded
weird because he's asking about people are worried about you
because of how you tend to, you know, get emotional, overreact,
to get a.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Little bit into it. Is worried about him, and you're.
Speaker 6 (39:01):
Right, nobody is worried. The words were not right, but also.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Got Draymond Green.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Now I've spent zero percentage of my time worrying about
Raymond Green.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
You're right, you're right, Nope, Nope, And that's the press.
Speaker 8 (39:16):
They get out there and pressed.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
That was the press.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Maybe between that question, that Christine Brennan series of questions,
we realized that some people are just not that good
at this job. And sometimes it's me, but not today.
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Speaker 2 (00:43):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I mean, I understand that if you have a really
really good game and then you have another game you like,
it can be distracting. But let's be honest, neither of
these last week the games one was good, one was not.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
It was easy. This week I have one game.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I just I can't see myself paying much attention to
Miami and Tennessee. Yeah, I just it's more football. The
only thing you get is you get a little bit
more of a watered down Sunday, but not much so
without further ado, what we do is we gather all
of our emotions and information from the weekend and we
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bring it to you. We'll love and hate.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
What did you love?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
God? I love you?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
And what did you hate?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
These player?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Hay is.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Okay, Let's let's start with you, Monci. I know you
worked this weekend. You paid attention to do it all,
especially to baseball. Tell them what you loved.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
I'm gonna tell you what I love, and it has
something to do with sports. Is something I did this weekend.
It's spooky season, Halloween. I love Halloween. I love getting scared.
The scarier the better. Am I going to have a nightmare?
Speaker 6 (01:51):
I love it? Are you?
Speaker 7 (01:53):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
I was gonna say, can I pee my pants?
Speaker 6 (01:54):
I don't know if I can say that? But you
got what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
I allow it. The better, the scarier, the better is
what I'm saying. So this weekend I did a thing
that I do every year called Delusion. It's like an
interactive haunted experience. So it's like an hour long and
it's a storyline and you are part of the story.
And it was spooky and fun and it wasn't the
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scariest thing.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
But I love this season.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
It's my favorite time and I try and get in
as many things as I can, which is why I
did it this weekend when it's still September, because there's
many things to do every weekend for the month of October.
When it comes to spookiness. And if you're curious what
the story was, it was this doctor whose wife had
recently died and he was using his patients. We were
the patients to try and bring her back, and he
obviously can't. But it was spooky and fun. Loved it, loved.
Speaker 8 (02:42):
It, So you just made it obvious to I love it.
An entire workspace of people that you love being scared?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yes, so do you.
Speaker 8 (02:51):
Like if you're walking around the corner you want to
be scared and you love it? Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 9 (02:55):
Sure?
Speaker 5 (02:55):
But it's like, I mean, Mike tries to scare me,
Ryan Smith tries to scare me.
Speaker 8 (03:01):
Mike scares you just being big mic.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
He thinks he's, you know, sneaky, and he is actually
for this thing away from sneaky. So it doesn't work.
Bryan Smith has got me once or twice and then
I like, jump up.
Speaker 8 (03:17):
You're saying Big Mic is like a zombie, like come
up so slow? How could he possibly kill you?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Exactly exactly, Jason Stewart sent me left on the weekend.
Speaker 8 (03:30):
Derrick Henry, I'm going to ask the three of you
to fact check me here, but I don't know what
you guys. Tell me. How long that one rush was
for a touchdown last night f seventy five yards.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
Or it was eighty seven eighty five.
Speaker 8 (03:44):
So I think that was an amazing example of how
gifted this person is. Kyle Brant today said that they
did the math going back to his high school days tackles.
He's been tackled six thousand times. He's thirty years old.
At thirty you typically take a turn for the worse,
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but he's as powerful and fast as he's ever been.
At thirty years old. You're not supposed to outrun NFL
defensive backs. But last night, when he got into open space,
DeMar Hamlin and a defensive back I don't know the
name of had an angle on him, and he outran
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the angle, Like you're not supposed to do that. At
thirty years old and sixty six thousand, tackles in like
he's a complete freaking nature. I think this diet went
viral last week. How he has this very restrictive diet
and I don't know how he consumes enough carves or
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protein to even be powerful, but he does. Whatever this
guy's doing, I think everybody should do it. Amazing.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
No, he probably cut out pizza and sugar. I'm not
doing that.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
Definitely not doing that.
Speaker 8 (05:02):
Yeah, he's definitely cutting out those things, but he eats
very little.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Oh my gosh, there's so funny.
Speaker 6 (05:07):
It was.
Speaker 10 (05:09):
It was eighty seven yards and man, he looks intimidating
in that uniform too. He is a galloping ghost out
there and he looks.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
Fresh and good for him, good for him, Like, oh yeah,
it's great for him.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah, I am not doing them.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
I'm not doing that.
Speaker 10 (05:25):
Do you guys remember a few weeks ago we kind
of wondered, like who would make it out of the
division into playoff mode, like the Bengals or the Ravens.
I think it's going to be the Ravens. The Ravens
look equipped, they look like they just got off to
a slow start, but they're going to figure this out.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Yeah, that Raiders loss I think was a blessing in
disguise for them. They had to put it in gear quick.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
You I would agree with that.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, you know, I thought Justin Field's inability to do anything,
and then you know, they had some fumbles, they had
some other stuff. But but look, Pittsburgh's defense is better
than the Ravens defense, But the Ravens offense is better
than Pittsburgh's offense. Cleveland's obviously not doing it in Cincinnati
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feels like they're better, but still feels like they're missing something.
But if you think they lost two games, I would
say that they're they're going to make the playoffs. I
don't know if they win the division, I don't know.
It's I mean, super competitive, but right now, the Browns
not being great is probably the is the one thing
that keeps them from me in such a dynamic division
if if you like, I can get you know, two
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wins from one team. So, Jason Stewart, something you left
from the weekend?
Speaker 8 (06:36):
Yeah, I just gave you the entire I'm sorry, I mean,
allow me to give you some details. During the season,
he doesn't doesn't eat his first meal until four or
five pm. Okay, stays away from fried foods, gluten, dairy,
artificial sugars. He says, we'll eat three chicken breasts, some
rice and broccoli and then do it again. He'll have
some gluten free pancakes if he wants to, Uh, if
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he wants.
Speaker 6 (06:59):
To cheat indulge, that's his indulge.
Speaker 8 (07:02):
I don't know how he has enough energy to get
through the day, let alone, you know, stave off NFL tackle.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
That has to be like, is there massive amounts of water?
Is he drinking electro like drink? What's what's he doing?
What else is he doing?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
But again, like if you're eating chicken breasts in broccoli
and you're eating him in a condensed period of time,
I mean, if you look at his body, it seems
to be working.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (07:22):
He spends two hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year
on nutrition and fitness regiment.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Well, his trainer. Have you guys ever seen.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
The videos of him working out?
Speaker 8 (07:39):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Do you notice anything about his his uh? His trainer.
So his trainer is a friend of mine. His name
is Melvin Sanders. Melvin played basketball, ok stayed after us.
And you look at Melvin and you're like, and Melvin's
he's not quite he's probably early forties, but I mean
it could looks like he's like a twenty five twenty
six old athlete played made the NBA, playing for the Spurs,
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former state triple jump champion in Kansas. Like also just
an absolute positive freak. So and he's the guy in
the DFW in the summer that all the NFL guys
go to. So I'll give you something I loved over
the weekend. I love Sam Donald getting the win in
green Bay. You know we can sit here and go, hey,
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you know, green Bay turnovers early with with Jordan Love,
and the weather's not bad and he had a good
start when he was in Carolina or whatever.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
But the Jordan loves the the well, I missay.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Why I keep saying Jordan Love when I'm talking about
the other quarterback. I just if you if it's not
just that I have been a card carrying member of
the Sam Donald fan club since he was back at USC,
it's that it does speak to sticking with it, finding
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somebody who gets to you. You're playing for a former
backup quarterback. You've been a backup quarterback, you've been a starter,
but The biggest thing is like, it makes the Vikings
look like they're competently run, and it makes the Jets
look completely incompetent, which they were and a granted different GM,
different head coach at the time, but really really interesting
and I just love that story.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
I really do.
Speaker 10 (09:20):
Go ahead, Sammy, Well, my contribution for the love portion
of this fine segment is actually, it's not about Iowa,
It's about Iowa State. Iowa was on a bye week,
so I switched my attention to watching the Cyclones, who
are undefeated and now up to sixteenth in the nation,
definitely a threat in the Big twelve Conference. Listen, Iowa
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is a small state. It's only three million people or so,
So don't we look at Iowa State. I think Ioa
State looks at Iowa fans as like we're cousins, you know,
We're we're not rivals. Like we definitely put a lot
of passion behind the Syhawk game, but for the most part,
we kind of we love each other. We're all we're
just cousins, you know, We're the other side of the
pond cross the state. Iowa State is off to its
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best start since the year two thousand, where they went
nine and three. They've never won more than nine games
in a season ever, which is pretty crazy. But they
are four and oh for the first time since two
thousand after they shut out Houston in a conference game
twenty to nothing on Saturday. It took a while for
them to get there. It was like three nothing until
like I think the fourth quarter, and then they put
them away. But this is a big deal because Iowa
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State's undefeated and Dan Campbell with that win, he passed
Dan McCarney for most wins in program history with fifty
seven fifty seven wins dug and it was their first
shutout in conference on the road since nineteen seventy one.
They're now up to sixteenth in the country, so this
is a big deal. This is a big deal for
a Cyclones program that listen. They've They've still got heights
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to reach under Matt Campbell, and I'm kind of happy
to see them to see them do this. They did
beat Iowa, but they got that out of the way
and now I feel like they have a big season
in front of them.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
So good for them.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
All right, let's get to what we hated from the weekend,
as it is love and hate.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Jay s dou hate away.
Speaker 8 (11:19):
Yeah, you know what I hate. I hate people that
would much rather stand around with smartphone cameras and take
video of near death fights than actually tried to break
something up or de escalate. I don't know if any
of you saw this, but over the weekend there was
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a fight at the Falcon Saints game and reportedly one
of the men that was getting his head stomped almost
lost his life. Oh man, the video is vicious, It's brutal.
It was shared a million times on wine. And the
reason why I know that is because they're There were
like six different angles on this fight, six different you know,
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smartphone users who thought it would be cool to post
the fight as opposed to get involved. I don't know
where our society is going. I thought that civilizations were
supposed to evolve, but the vicious nature has gotten worse
on these fights. There's always been fights at games. You
could say that smartphones have just increased our visibility on it.
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But I swear over the past couple of years, the
viciousness and potential deadliness of these fights is getting worse.
Somebody is going to die in one of these fights.
I think it's a matter of when and not if.
And I hope that every single person that took a
smartphone video of that person getting killed loses sleep at
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night if they're not indicted for not stepping in and
preventing the dead. It's a very dark, uh direction that
our society is going at soccer Wholigans has been the
thing for decades in underdeveloped countries. Are we really going
to be that country where our citizens citizenry are killing
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other people at sporting events?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I think right now the answer is yes, until something's done.
But you're right.
Speaker 10 (13:23):
I'm totally with Jason on the people just recording things
on their cell phone instead of intervening and helping. I
just I see it all the time, and yes, it's
given us much more access to disturbing videos. But at
one point, at what point do you just, you know,
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put the phone down down and intervene. I just it's
it's cowardly. So I definitely hear you on that one.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Jason Monci sent me hate It for the weekend.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
I hated two things. One of them happening right now.
My phone does not work. Doug Yes is having some
sort of outage and my phone is not working, and
it's very annoying. It's like, how do we live without phones?
But I'm not the one also using my phone to
record fights that I'm with you guys on all of that.
But I really really hated that the Chargers did not
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beat the Chiefs. The Chiefs not that they're not good,
but they're definitely beatable. And they've won out nine or
ten in a row, all of them, all of them
except for one game against Miami Dolphins last year, have
been one score games. And I really thought the Chargers
had a legit chance. I know, no Joe Alt, and
I know that you know, Justin Herbert is a little
big gimpy right now, but he I thought it was
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there and we just couldn't do it.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
And I hated that.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I would say it.
Speaker 10 (14:43):
Okay, I'm gonna do my best here to summarize this
story that's a little convoluted, a lot of context involved.
It's about a week in the making here. And credit
to Jason though for bringing the Christine Brennan side of
this to my attention today. So let's just start here.
Dj A Carrington has played Kaitlin Clark several times over
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the season. She has guarded her extremely hard. She's all
over like a Mustard Stain. So they met in the
WNBA playoffs last week and djon A Carrington for the
Connecticut Sun was, you know, defending Kaylyn Clark as she
always does, and a very very intense all over her.
And she at one point her hand flipped up at
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some point and kind of swatted Kaitlin under the eye,
gave her a little little shiner, a little black eye.
And Christine Brennan now enters the equation and she's been
a sports journalist for a long time. She's worked for
USA Today. She's a columnist, she's a reporter. She's long
been in the corner of women's sports, and the WNBA
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should be plenty familiar with her. She went up to
dj A Carrington after that game, after that first win
last week, and asked her this about the ie poking incident.
Speaker 7 (15:59):
When you went and kind of swatted at Caitlin, did
you intend to hit her in the eye, and if so,
could you just earth not out either way? Could you
talk about what happened on that play.
Speaker 11 (16:11):
I just I don't even know why I would intend
to hit anybody in the eye.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
That doesn't even make sense to me.
Speaker 11 (16:16):
But no, I didn't. I didn't know I hit her. Actually,
I was trying to make a play on the ball
and I guess I followed through and I hit her.
So obviously it's never intentional. That's not even like the
type of player that I am.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
So yeah, did you and Marina kind of laugh about
it afterwards? It looked like huge it was later on
the game they caught you guys laughing about it.
Speaker 11 (16:35):
No, I just told you I didn't even know I
hit her, So I can't laugh about something I didn't
know happened.
Speaker 10 (16:42):
All right, So we'll get back to the original question
in a little bit. So after that question was asked
and DJA gave her response to Christine Brennan, social media
did its thing where it reared its toxic head, and
Christine's question became It started to re around this idea
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of you know, she's on like the Caitlin Clark side.
She's trying to drum up all this controversy with race
and gender and sexual orientation. And the WNBA's Player Association
really felt threatened by Christine Brennan's question and her intentions
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and motives behind it, and they put out this statement
very sharp criticism of Brennan. They wrote to unprofessional members
of the media like Christine Brennan. You are not fooling anyone.
That so called interview in the name of journalism was
a blatant attempt to bait a professional athlete into participating
into a narrative that is false and designed to fuel racist, homophobic,
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and misogynistic vitriol on social media. You cannot hide behind
your tenure. Instead of demonstrating the cornerstones of journalism ethics
like integrity, objectivity, and a fundamental commitment to truth, you
have chosen to be indecent and downright insincere and late. Listen,
they weren't done there. They kind of insinuate, like maybe
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you should have your credentials taken away, YadA, YadA, and
so forth. They're accusing her of bias and ulterior motives,
when first of all, they should be very familiar with
who this person is.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
She's been around.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Christine Brennan is just not good at her joy Like
the questioning questions were awful.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
The question the questions were bad, but they.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Weren't with the intent of doing anything other than trying
to get to the story. Whether or not she did
it on purpose, Yes, she went straight to DJ Kenny
here's the thing. If you're gonna go after Christine Brennan
with that sort of of energy, like you're gonna run
out of people who wanted who care. Listen, I'll make
this really clear to the w NBA players. Okay, these
are way better. They're way better than they ever used
to be. Okay, the game, the sport evolving, it's good.
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Kaitlyn Clark has raised it to a whole new level.
But you're a bunch of clowns, and you make it
so that we just it's not like now I have
to really make a choice. In the summer, there wasn't
much anything going on, but I got college football, I
got pro football, I got the NBA's getting ready to
get underway.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Right.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
We have Major League Baseball in the playoffs, which we
just had maybe the game of the year with the
Mets clinching a playoff spot against the Atlanta Braves.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Another one kind of coming up against the Braves.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Like you gotta I gotta want to watch, not just
there's nothing else on and I super super super super.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Don't want to watch.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I just it's just like you can't question somebody's motives
or you're a racist, or your sex sister or a
homophobia or whatever, like just.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Go away, just go away.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
And honestly, this whole act makes me want the league
to go back to the near bankruptcy days, you know,
like where they had the the Houston Comets won like
the first four titles, then they went bankrupt, you know,
and they're vassively overspending because they think that this sport
is on the rise, Like let's see what happens next year.
Because you just all these new customers, you turn them off.
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This is a restaurant that's been open for a long time.
It's been saying like why don't we get any attention?
Then it's got this one meal. You know, they make
this cheesecake and everybody keeps asking for the cheesecake. You're like, hey,
what about this whole other menu? Like the El Mini
is fine, but I like the cheesecake, So I'm going
to the cheesecake.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Imagine the cheesecake.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Factory, like, hey, not only do we not have cheesecake,
but you asking for cheesecake offends me?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Offends me.
Speaker 10 (20:25):
Can I just put a pin on this? I I
don't like Christine Brennan's question. I think it was kind
of silly of course, she didn't intend to hit her
in the face, and even she did, she would never
admit to that.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
So I get it. She's allowed to ask that question.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I think know how to ask a better question.
Speaker 10 (20:42):
Hold on, but the reaction from the w NBA PA
is way over the top. That's really what I have
a problem, way.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
At the top. Correct. Both of these things can be true.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Christine Brennan can ask bad questions and not be a sexist, homophobe.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Whatever she's mean used.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
They're not proportional reaction.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Nobody thinks that she is.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
But like this sport forever correct.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
And she's She's the columnist that you know, like Boston
guy tries to get to make everything about Boston right,
like doing moves moving Boston, like we don't retire to
hear about Boston. She's the person who in the columnists
will always as a columnist, will always try and bring
something back to talking about women's sports. So yeah, that
that annoys that, That more than annoys me.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Wait, I didn't get to what I hated from the weekend.
Speaker 8 (21:23):
Sounds like you hated the Christine Brennan store.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I did, but he already had that. Why are you
taking that from me?
Speaker 6 (21:30):
Why you can co sign on it.
Speaker 8 (21:33):
How about you with Rich Horberger.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
I'll share it. I hate with Rich Hornberger. That's that's
what we'll do. That's love it.
Speaker 7 (21:38):
Hey.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
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Speaker 1 (21:49):
Lot Doug gotlib show Fox Sports Radio. A lot of
things you want to get to. In regards to the NFL,
I mean, just kind of some weird outcomes as well.
And that's really the other part. Like the games weren't
crazy compelling yesterday, I didn't think I watched all of them. Obviously,
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Indies win with Joe Flacco was interesting. Atlanta surviving New Orleans.
And Orleans had looked like world beaters the first two
weeks this season. Now they're at two and two after
an another couple losses. The Bears escape the Rams, Rams
keep fighting despite the fact they're incredibly depleted. Probably the
most surprising was Denver's win over the Jets. But it's
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not like they're getting great quarterback play. We got to
talk about the Eagles falling on their face in Tampa
and oh yeah, by the way what Tom Brady said
about what Baker Mayfield said, you know it can help
us with that. Rich Ornberger can help us with that.
He joins us in the Dug Outlib Show on Fox
Sports Radio formern NFL Lineman. You can hear him five
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It's all presented by Bett MGM. All right, I want
I want to ask you about about Brady. I'm sure
you've heard this by now. This was Baker Mayfield in
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the podcast. Going back to last week.
Speaker 12 (23:18):
The building was a little bit different with Tom in there. Obviously,
playing wise, Tom was different. He had everybody dialed in
high strong environments, so I think everybody was pretty stressed out.
So they wanted me to come in and be myself,
you know, bring the joy back to football a little
bit for guys that weren't having as much fun.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Okay, and then here's Tom Brady on the broadcast sad quote.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
They wanted me to come in, be myself, bring the
joy back to football for guys.
Speaker 8 (23:41):
That weren't having as much fun.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
It's funny because you've made this environ room for me
very stressful up here in the booth.
Speaker 8 (23:46):
So I understand where he's coming from.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Your field.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I know was best well.
Speaker 13 (23:50):
I was gonna say, I thought stressful was not having
Super Bowl rings. So there was a mindset of a
champion that I took to work every day.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
This wasn't daycare.
Speaker 13 (24:02):
If I wanted to have fun, I was gonna go
to Disneyland with my kids. Great, great, great, As you
were saying, go ahead, that's you feel like.
Speaker 8 (24:12):
I feel like there's more in there to say.
Speaker 13 (24:14):
There's a way to approach this game, and it's that
with the with the right mindset and try to push
each other outside of our comfort zoning.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Great teammates do that you come in.
Speaker 13 (24:23):
I have someone like Gronkowska, I have someone like Evans.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
There's high expectations for us.
Speaker 13 (24:28):
We've got to make sure we go out there and deliver.
Speaker 9 (24:30):
The competitive juice is still flowing still in there.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I love no apologies, Luimberg, would you I mean it's
your former teammate.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
What do you think when you heard that back and forth?
Speaker 9 (24:41):
I agree with Tom Brady. I look, I mean, there
are a lot of professions where you can show up
every day and make the best of it and have
a ton of fun. I think we happen to work
in one of them. I think broadcasting is what you
make of it. I'm sure to a certain extent there's other,
maybe lower stakes professions that you could make that same argument.
(25:06):
I mean, I know that you know children's education is
on the line, but I had teachers who made the
classroom environment fun. It wasn't so strict, it wasn't so stressful,
and I think you can get away with that in
certain professions. In football, I mean, there's definitely the way
to go about it where you're having a ton of
fun and the results may vary. And then there's the
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way that Tom Brady was sort of raised in the
NFL doing it where everybody walked on eggshells every day
in New England. With the success that he helped start
in New England and carry on for two decades is
the reason why he was recruited in free agency by
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and an enormous reason why they
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were able to net a Super Bowl championship while he
was their starting quarterback. I agree with Tom looks work,
it's not always going to be fun in a high
stakes environment. You know, you work on Wall Street or
if you have a job, you know where lives are
on the line. You know where it's fight stressed, and
you know human lives weigh in the balance. Maybe you
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know a first responder and member of the military. I mean,
mistakes can be stuper consequential, and much more so than
in the game of football. But in the game of football,
I mean we've seen this a million times over. Mistakes
are highly amplified. And it doesn't matter at what point
in the season, because we can rewind back to week
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four or week five, you know, earlier in the season
to see when problems started or when certain trends began,
and those can be damaging trends at the end of
the year. And Tom Brady always tried to nip those
at the bud and tried to be a champion every
single day. And yeah, maybe that rubbed some people the
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wrong way, maybe that created a stressful work environment, but
you cannot argue with the success that he had over
his marvelous career.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
No, you definitely can't. Let's talk about that game for
a second again. What's wrong with the Philadelphi Eagles.
Speaker 9 (27:13):
Well, I'll tell you what. Defensively, what Levante David was
able to do, you know, from the linebacker position was unbelievable.
He had one of his finest games in recent memory.
I think the Buccaneers also, you know, that was on
the defensive side for the Bucks. Offensively, they took advantage
of the Philadelphi Eagles defense. They like to play that
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coverage shell, kind of that stop covered shell. They don't
want to give up the big play. But they got
nickel and dimed all the way down the field and
they could not find the answers. Offensively, I think the
Eagles are obviously hurt. You know, they were operating without
their star tackle Lane Johnson, their star wide receivers aj
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Brown and the Vonte Smith, and they look like they
kind of didn't get off the bus, getting out gained
by almost two hundred yards in the first quarter. But
there's some serious issues in Philadelphia in terms of the culture.
It feels like there obviously was maybe an issue at
the end of the season last year with Nick Sirianni
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how the messaging was being received by the players down
the stretch of the season losing six straight games, because
it feels like there's been a little bit of a
hangover since they appeared in the Super Bowl and and
now all those those those chickens have come to roost.
You know it just this does not feel like the
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same team it felt like when they were on that
tear and made it all the way to the final
game of the season and lost to the Chiefs. Culturally,
it's fallen apart. And I mean, the easiest look is
to see the brain drain when she sint Stiken took
the Indianapolis Colt job and Jonathan Gannon took the Arizona
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Cardinals job, because they haven't looked the same since.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
No, they have not looked close to the same.
Speaker 9 (29:14):
I get.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
It's a great story.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Joe Flacco comes in, saves the day, But where are
we on Anthony Richardson and his development as a quarterback.
Speaker 9 (29:22):
Your most important ability in the NFL is your availability,
So he's not going to develop if he can't play.
And as exciting of a player as he is when
he's on the field, it is a concerning trend when
you can't keep healthy in this league and you're owed
and paid as much money as Anthony Richardson has been
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paid and what he's owed and how little production there's been.
But now it's two straight seasons where his understudy has
had to come into the game and make it right.
And Joe Flacco is no slouch. We've seen him do
this before in the past. Obviously last year with the Browns,
he jumped right in there, scored a touchdown immediately almost
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through for two hundred yards, and it was a mix
of some short throws and some deep throws that we've
all kind of embraced throughout the course of his career
that he is going to gamble sometimes and sometimes that's
going to come up short. We saw that in the
postseason last year with the Browns. But man, he's got
great arm strength, he's got great football IQ. He anticipates things,
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and even though he's been with the Colts for a
shorter time than Anthony Richardson, I felt like that offense
looked more calm and composed with him under center, and
frankly with Gardner Minshew under center than it has at
any point with Anthony Richardson. So, like I said, this
all stems back to his availability. You got to be
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able to stay on the field so that you can
earn those reps so that you can continue growing as
a quarterback. Otherwise, here, within the next call it sixteen
games or so, the Colts are going to have to
make a decision, you know. And I'm saying sixteen because
this will probably leach over into next year to see
if he's viable. But this is exactly what happened with
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Trey Lance and the San Francisco forty nine ers. He
couldn't stay healthy, he couldn't stay on the field, so
they had to move on from him, and that could
be the story with the Colts and Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Rich Orenberger
is in fact our guest. Last two games, nobody can
tackle Derrick Henry. First couple games felt like Lamar Jackson's
accuracy was in question. It hasn't been nearly as big
an issue because no one's been able to stop Derrick Henry.
Is this a recipe for success in the postseason for Baltimore?
Speaker 9 (31:44):
It is, but it's all incumbent upon their run game.
So the Baltimore Ravens are one of the greatest front
running teams in the league and in recent memory. This
is a team that is built to play with the lead.
So when you your first play from scrimmage can rattle
off an eighty seven yard touchdown run and play with
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the comfy lead for the rest of the night, you're
going to look like world beaters. You're going to take
any team to task, and we saw that against a
very talented Bills team, and also much improve Baltimore Ravens defense.
We got to give credit there because they were able
to hem up with the Bills were doing, which, by
the way, the Bills out to play a little bit
more one dimensional than they like to play, because they
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were trailing during this game, and they're trailing big at times,
so that definitely takes away some of the things available
to you as an offense as a game progresses. But
the Baltimore Ravens, they want to play bullyball. They want
to put the ball on the ground, they want to
throw the ball close to line of scrimmage, they want
to throw the ball over the middle, and all that
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becomes easier when coverage starts creeping up closer and closer
line of scrimmage to handle the biggest issues, which are
Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson in the run game. As
long as they stay out as situations where they're trailing
by seven points in the second half, where they're trailing
by two scores in the first half, then this is
what the Baltimore Ravens are gonna look like because they're
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built to play with the lead. But if they get behind, man,
you can't trust Lamar Jackson in those situations because he
struggles to throw the football deep down the field and
he's always struggled throwing the football out toward the sideline.
Then the issue with the Ravens every time they get
to the postseason, and that's the reason why Lamar Jackson
has struggled in the postseason, because when the game's in
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his hands and he needs to play from behind, he
oftentimes struggles to deliver in those moments.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Yeah, and Derek Henry has been great either. He wears
down as the season goes on and seemly becomes stop
bull as well. It's going to be a fascinating thing
to look at. Rich great stuff. Rich Omberger check him
out every weekday in San Diego or our Countdown to Kickoff.
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Speaker 2 (33:56):
Rich appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Be sure to catch the live edition of the Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Doug Gottlabs Show Fox Sports Radio every day. This time
we try and get you up in as many stories
as possible. We do so by getting to the press.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
The press.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Hello there, Moncy Bologos. What we have in the press?
Speaker 5 (34:23):
Hey, coach, We are gonna start with what just happened.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
Not long ago.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
It maybe September, but for Francisco Lindor and the Mets,
it's already October.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Johnson ready his first pitch, till Indoor swinging a high
fly ball, well hit right center, Harris going back.
Speaker 8 (34:40):
That's all the way that is gone. End of the
bride bull padded light center field.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Francisco Lindor has an MVP moment, whether he wins water
or not. Hey has just put up Mets back on
top eight to seven.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
This was the top of the ninth Mets radio network.
They win Game one after being down, so the Mets
are headed to the playoffs in the National League. They've
clinched a spot. So now it's Game two, which is
starting in about ten minutes or so. The Braves were
originally gonna have Chris Sales start for Game two. They've
scratched them because of back spasms. Grant Holmes is gonna
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start in a must.
Speaker 14 (35:20):
Win game for the Braves New Homes what so home
so at Holmes New York is using Joey Lussi, who
has an ERA of ten point three eight.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
So we'll see how it goes again. If the Bets
they split this doubleheader, both of them make it. If
for whatever reason, the Mets sweep the Braves, then the
Diamondbacks get in.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
All right, let's move on to the NBA.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
I know we had a big weekend of the NFL
doug but let's move on to the NBA, and let's
start with the big trade that did happen this weekend.
Julius Randall, Karl Anthony Towns, Dante DiVincenzo. Everybody is on
the move between this Knicks Tea, Wolves, Hornets trade. Even
though Ramona Shelbourne did tweet yesterday that this is not
a one hundred percent official like it's happening, but it's not
one hundred percent official yet, and so these players aren't
(36:07):
at their media days. That's happening right now in the NBA.
Do you like this trade, Julius Randall going to Minnesota
in exchange for Carl Anthony Towns. Dante DiVincenzo also headed
to Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yeah, I mean, look, it's a poorly kept secret that
Kat wanted to get back to New York. His former
agent runs the Knicks, and he's from He's from Jersey.
Plus the way he plays like he's a prolific three
point shooter as a center, and the way that Jalen
Brunson plays where he's unbelievable getting the lane.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
It's it's almost like you're inverting your offense.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
So he makes a lot of money, and you know,
obviously Minnesota felt like they hit whatever ceiling and he
hit plays some in the playoffs form, so they had
him and Gobert and they're like, well they got to
get rid of one of them, and they chose Kat,
which is weird. So now, I mean, Julius Randall and
go birt. Does that work?
Speaker 6 (37:02):
I don't see it.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
I don't know. Maybe they make it.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
There's another move coming so Minnesota, I remember you got
a potential ownership change. Maybe maybe not. I don't know
what happens there. But for the Knicks, Yeah, this this works.
The only thing about kat is he has a reputation
to be in a bit soft.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
And Tom Thibodeau as a coach does not seem like
coach soft guys.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
That's gonna be fascinating.
Speaker 5 (37:25):
That's kind of what I'm wondering. Can he handle the
New York Spotlight media attention.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
I don't think it's a New York Spotlight. I just
think it's who you work for and you play for.
And like Tibbs is a guy who plays the starters
too much and they get worn down. And that's a
guy that a lot of people think, will you know,
take a couple more days off that need be Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
Yeah, I'm curious to see how it works because I
also feel like it's almost like you're kind of doing
the same thing.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
But I like what you said.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
He's a three point shooter, kind of clearing the line
for Jalen Brunson, So that makes perfect sense. All right, So,
as mentioned, media days are happening in the NBA. Dream
Green was not a big fan of a question asked today, Doug,
check it out.
Speaker 9 (38:04):
You know, people worry about you, fans, maybe your teammates.
Speaker 8 (38:08):
Are they worried about me?
Speaker 4 (38:09):
I am a successful black man in America doing incredibly well.
Speaker 8 (38:13):
What's the worry worrying about you?
Speaker 4 (38:15):
There are way more people in this world to worry
about than me.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
That's for sure. But we're here now, so we're all here.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
I think you should worry about me.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Okay, I'm doing pretty well.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
If you would if you would have told me when
I was thirteen years old and Saginaw, Michigan without a
potable that you'd be sitting here and somebody would say
they're worried about you, I would have probably told them
they were out of their mind. If I'd be sitting
here and they'd be worried about me.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Oh, Draymond, that's a weird question.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
I mean it was weird that obviously it was worded
weird because he's asking about people are worried about you
because of how you tend to, you know, get emotional, overreact,
to get a.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Little bit into it. Is worried about him, and you're.
Speaker 6 (39:01):
Right, nobody is worried. The words were not right, but also.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Got Draymond Green.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Now I've spent zero percentage of my time worrying about
Raymond Green.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
You're right, you're right, Nope, Nope, And that's the press.
Speaker 8 (39:16):
They get out there and pressed.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
That was the press.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Maybe between that question, that Christine Brennan series of questions,
we realized that some people are just not that good
at this job. And sometimes it's me, but not today.
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