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August 1, 2024 38 mins

Doug and Dan Beyer discuss the legacy of Simone Biles.  Doug and the crew critique Jim Harbaugh's music playlist. Doug welcomes FSR NFL Insider Adam Caplan to talk about Lamar Jackson, Justin Herbert and all of the headlines around the NFL this week. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through a Thursday edition of "The Press".

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you're great. Hey, I want to talk about this Jim
Harbaugh playlist in a moment, but I do have a

(00:40):
question and buyer. I actually think you're the fairest person
to ask on this one one because you always give
me your honest opinion and you were on the show
at the time. So at the last Olympics, that was
in twenty twenty one, At the last Olympics, Simone Biles
had the twisties, right, She had the twisties, which is

(01:03):
a gymnastics version of the yips right where when you
start spinning and getting upside down, you lose your equally
bring a little bit right. And I was critical of
her because my thing is that, like what separates the
best of the best is the ability to process all
these things that are going on in life and still
find a way to compete.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
And she couldn't do it.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
She didn't do it, And she was a good teammate,
and she cheered for a team and whatever, which which
is great. But the point is like it almost felt
like it almost it felt like instead of putting herself
out there where she could fail, where she would fail
as an athlete and wouldn't win. It's not like to

(01:48):
sacrifice like a perfect season type of thing.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
But sort of.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Now she comes back and she's winning everything, which is awesome,
an amazing kind of personal comeback story. But how do
we ve you would all considering she she did go
through what she thought was the twisty, she didn't compete
mostly at all. I think there's only one event she
did compete in when she was at the last Games.
How do we process that part? Like, again, was I

(02:14):
over the top? Do we still believe that she should
have tried to push through and tried to compete in competition.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
I have heard people that she could have really hurt herself.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
I do understand that it's a little bit different when
you're doing aerials and you're doing but I also think
we're being super super cautious to think of that. Dan,
how do you how would you process the Simone Bile story?

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah? Knowing?

Speaker 3 (02:39):
No?

Speaker 2 (02:39):
No?

Speaker 4 (02:39):
Now?

Speaker 5 (02:39):
Yeah, I think you know greatest you know, gymnasts that
we've seen. I think her accolades are match up to that.
I do not hold what happened in Tokyo against her.
She's admitted that the problems that she was experiencing were
even being experienced prior to the Olympic Games, and it

(03:00):
was even explained in these Olympic Games how some of
the stuff that she was doing, the twisties don't even matter,
don't even come into play because of the routine or
whatever she was doing. But I would, you know, I
would compare it to golf in the term of the yips. Yeah,
and sometimes players have the yips. But if someone has,

(03:20):
like Tiger Woods had the you know, chipping yips when
he was trying to come back, are we holding that
against him in terms of looking at him as the
greatest of all time.

Speaker 6 (03:31):
I don't. I don't.

Speaker 5 (03:33):
I actually believe the injury portion of it. I also
think that individual sports, for what you are individually doing,
are much different than a team sport atmosphere like you
would have in say basketball or baseball or football or
something like that. So I am and I'm all good
with someone Biles.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Okay, So I guess here's the question. So the difference
I think in for example, golf and whatever, we consider
what happened with her in.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Gymnastics. She didn't try.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Like one, if you're having those issues leading up to
the games and it's.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Going to affect you, then don't do it. Then don't
go to the games.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Don't go and have us go through all this stuff
and then you know, kind of make a show of it.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Second part to it is.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Like, like you said and has been said, like it
didn't actually have any effect on several of the other routines,
but she didn't try.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Like Again, the difference.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
In her and Tiger is Tiger even through that even
if he had the chipping yips going into the Masters,
he still would have played. He wouldn't like pulled out
because of the chipping yips. It would have looked bad.
I think that's the issue with it is it's not
whatever she was working through it said. Either she didn't
pull out early to give somebody else a full opportunity,
or secondly didn't If she's going to go, and she's

(04:44):
gonna get on that plane and go and it's not
really even going to be stuff something of the twisty's
the effect on why wouldn't she compete?

Speaker 5 (04:50):
Well, I think that she had earned the right to
try to fight through it as much as she can
from her uh, from her results in Rio, I think
that you should give her every opportunity to do so.
But if there's a chance that that a higher rate
than possible that she could break her neck or break
her leg, or suffer some sort of significant injury.

Speaker 6 (05:09):
Yeah, I would.

Speaker 5 (05:10):
I would probably try to avoid that. I've never done gymnastics.
I don't know, so I can't relate in that aspect.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Have you done mental gymnastics?

Speaker 6 (05:19):
People try?

Speaker 5 (05:21):
Yes, and I failed miserably. But I just I take
her word for it. I don't know why she would
bow out of something where everything is at stake for her.
I mean, she's the one that says the biggest, the
most to lose with it, and it wasn't enough for

(05:42):
her to overcome these games. Now, as I just mentioned
in the latest update, yeah, third medal of these games,
another gold for sixth in her career. So yeah, I
just I'm I'm fine with the reasoning. I don't look
back and look back as a negative thing. She cemented

(06:04):
her point to her part and her place in gymnastics
history today. First time since nineteen sixty eight, sixty four
and sixty eight a gymnast won back to back all arounds.
She obviously didn't win back to back all arounds, but
she's the first person since nineteen sixty eight to win
the all around twice.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
It makes it even more impressive, right, because usually gymnasts
it's a short run form. It is a short run
form because yeah, you know, usually they age out, and you.

Speaker 5 (06:30):
Know, like to that point, like it's almost of not
a conversation of did she chicken out? It's a conversation
of what could have been, what could have been, what
could have been if the Olympics were a year prior
in Tokyo. Sure, right, where COVID doesn't happen and maybe
this doesn't creep into her.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Would she have competed in them?

Speaker 5 (06:49):
Yeah, that's another would have could have situation, So I
don't hold it against her.

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so I believe that Jason Stewart has commandeered Jim Harbaugh's playlist?

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Is that correct? Is that what I'm reading here properly?

Speaker 4 (07:24):
Let's see on Chargers on Chargers Twitter yesterday that I follow,
the social media person there used a very gen z
term that I don't none of us qualify for by
the way, and it said coach Harbaugh was on the
OX and I didn't know what that meant.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
I don't, I don't qualify for the ox a ux
he was.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
We used the OX in my like, that's a that's
a thing your kid gets in your car, Dad, Can
I have the OX?

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Well?

Speaker 4 (07:54):
The OX cable? Never heard? Yeah, never heard of auxiliary.
It's it's definitely a young term. When I play young,
I would say he was on the OX. So I
had to I had to Google search what that meant.
And then they showed the list of songs that he
played that he chose to play at practice yesterday. And

(08:16):
we're not going to play all of every song, but
we have a sample of these songs. I just want
our review. You know, each of us have very eclectic
music tastes. For example, Doug when asked who his favorite
artist of all time is, can't tell you. That's a
strange one. Dan Byer had no idea when I got here.

(08:40):
He's a big man band guy, boy band guy. That's
that's very eclectic. Iowa, Sam, I don't know what his
eclectic thing is. I consider myself a music snob and
I brag about it. I very much judge other people
for their music taste. So between the four of us,

(09:01):
I think we have a very wide range of music
interests and tastes. And I want I want to kind
of get your thoughts a review of the six samples
that Jim Harbaugh used yesterday. And it started with this one.
This is Phil Collins, I think first made popular in

(09:24):
the Miami Vice series back in the mid eighties. How
do we feel about this song as a as a
song to play on the speakers for twenty two to
thirty five year old men nowadays?

Speaker 2 (09:42):
It's fine.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
It doesn't really just fit with the time though, and
with with you know, like a Thursday practice or a
Wednesday practice.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
It doesn't seem to fit with you.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
Know, seems a little low energy for me. You know, what,
do you know, maybe if you're stretching, maybe this was
the stretching song.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
This s fetching song that works, That works, good call.

Speaker 5 (10:04):
I've always felt that this was the right before you
get into the arena, and not just actual arena, but
into that, you know, going into the stadium walking on
the field because of the drums, right, that's the build up.
So have this be or lead in, I don't know,
just a little surprise. Maybe that gets him into his workout.

Speaker 6 (10:28):
Plus.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
I mean, I would say that this song has got
to be now top ten of like the most play
that we have heard of the stuff. Tho, it's just
like you can hear.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
This hangovers made this into like an played out song.

Speaker 7 (10:46):
Oh it's been overplayed for decades. It's like we will
rock you. It's like there's no This is like a
song that someone who doesn't like music likes as their music.
It's just it's a great song, but it's totally overplayed
and it's not even Phil cons best.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
It's so overplayed that we know that the legendary tale
about this song is fake. Like it's not even like
not played enough where some people still think that it's real.

Speaker 6 (11:12):
So I think it's what's the story?

Speaker 7 (11:14):
Actually, I don't know if I've heard this, you know
what's fake about it?

Speaker 5 (11:18):
There was a there was a fake story going around
that Phil Collins like saw saw rape or or yeah,
I watched someone watch someone drowned, and so then he
brought that person to the concert and it's this whole
yeahly fake and tried to be like I saw what
you did, that sort of thing.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
If if the guitar solo and Journeys, don't stop believing,
is the most air guitar solo of all time? Is
this the most air drummed?

Speaker 6 (11:51):
Yes, part of all Yes, that drum made it into reels.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Wait, what's what's the guitar solo that's the most guitar solo?

Speaker 4 (11:59):
Right, don't stop believing?

Speaker 1 (12:01):
A journey no way, No, I think I think dire
Straits money for Nothing or or Yellow Ledbetter.

Speaker 6 (12:14):
It's not Yellow Led Beetter. I could guarantee you that
you don't think so when I heard that on the radio.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Oh no, I thought you said air guitar.

Speaker 6 (12:23):
I did, I did ye a guitar, air.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Guitar like you just you hear it and you do
the air guitar with it. I could be wrong.

Speaker 6 (12:31):
All guitar this is?

Speaker 4 (12:34):
This was song number two. Okay, again sticking to the eighties, Scorpions.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Here I am rocky.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Hurricane, little hair metal for you.

Speaker 5 (12:54):
Here's I don't mind this as much because I feel
like winds of Change can completely overtook this as Scorpions song.

Speaker 7 (13:03):
But still this is a pretty I think wins the
Change is a good song. Scorpions song. Scorpions underratedly they're
underratedly good band. And this song is another one that's
just played out just too much.

Speaker 6 (13:17):
I liked Big City Lights. That's my favorite score.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Between what's the third song? Oh yeah, this should have
been the first song. This doesn't get too fired up.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
You're just.

Speaker 6 (13:30):
The million time of hearing it. Yeah, it's like it's
just honestly.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
Looks like a time life books for the podcast listener,
this is I of the Tiger by Survivor.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Wait, why are you guys down? And I of the.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
Tiger Rocky three anthem.

Speaker 7 (13:46):
Yeah, it's like saying the same word over and over again.
It just starts to lose meaning. It just gibberish.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Do you know the words most I'm not.

Speaker 7 (13:54):
Talking about the words of the song. I'm saying just
repeating a word over and over again. You're like, I
don't even know what it means anymore. You hear this,
You're like, it's it was great when you heard it
the first fifty times?

Speaker 6 (14:02):
Song completely overplayed? Yes?

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Really? When was the last time you heard on the radio?

Speaker 6 (14:07):
Probably yesterday? If I would listen to the radio.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Did you listen to the radio.

Speaker 5 (14:11):
I don't listen to the radio because I hear songs
like this all the commercials.

Speaker 7 (14:15):
It's yeah, it's it's it's a song for Normy's Normcore.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
It does now I'm mac a mop bet just the
man And what's the matter with the song?

Speaker 6 (14:27):
It's a great song, But all these songs.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
How many times it happens? Too fast?

Speaker 6 (14:33):
Is this confirming us?

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (14:37):
Very cliche? H and Doug Doug is very has been
very don't lose.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Don't lose your grip on the dreams of the past.
You must fight just to keep them alive.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
It's the I of the Tiger. Hey, I wrote this
song rising up to the challenge. It's cheesy.

Speaker 7 (14:55):
Wrote the lyrics of this song, so so the thought
provoking lyrics.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
This does remind me of a.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Man.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
I hear that, and I'm on the bench press. I
get at least three more reps than I would know.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
Different different lead singer from Burning Heart survivor though this
is the first.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
One didn't survive, so the second one is the actual survivor?

Speaker 6 (15:20):
Oh, one of the past?

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah, I know, did survive.

Speaker 6 (15:26):
I think if it was the second one, is it?
Is it? Jimmy?

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Can you call yourself survivor if your lead singer dies?

Speaker 2 (15:34):
I think technically you can.

Speaker 6 (15:35):
Jimmy Jamison, is that who you can call?

Speaker 2 (15:37):
We're the rest of us are are survivors. But he's not.
All right, what's the fourth song?

Speaker 4 (15:42):
All right, let's do the last one here, last one?

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Four songs?

Speaker 4 (15:46):
Yeah, we gotta go. Four songs.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Oh, this is a great one.

Speaker 6 (15:49):
All right, I can sign.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
On seventh grade, eighth grade.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
Ryan, Okay, great song, but like do you want to
play it with a bunch of gen z and millennial
male thing?

Speaker 6 (16:00):
A hardball song, strip club song.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
No, it's not.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
This is every every red Jim Harball was probably in
high school and this was the song.

Speaker 6 (16:10):
Yes, yeah, deaf Leopard is good.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yes, this is before the drummer had one arm. I
think right.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
Was right after the drummer's accident. As we saw in
the video, he has one arm.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yeah, that's still one of the most amazing you talk
about comeback, Simone Biles comes back from the twisties, pretty
big thing.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
Drummer comes back from losing an arm. Shit shaking up?
What's the what's this? What's this line? What is that line?
Does anybody know?

Speaker 6 (16:39):
It's open to interpretation?

Speaker 2 (16:41):
It's not open to interpretation. Somebody in their iPhone?

Speaker 6 (16:44):
Someone Yeah.

Speaker 7 (16:44):
But that's the thing is that this song is notorious
for being like people just add libbing their own lyrics.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
Back to the air drumming part. When you air drum
duff Leopard, do you have to do it with one arm? Yes?

Speaker 2 (16:56):
I think you do. I think you do. You know
even mil Vanilly would would would do it with one arm.

Speaker 6 (17:02):
Harbor Rocky with the bears By the way when this
album came out.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Okay, Harbor sneaky old.

Speaker 6 (17:11):
H got photographs A good song, Yes, I got a
bunch of good ones.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
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Speaker 6 (17:20):
Coll me out a bad song, by the way, Five
other good songs on this album. Six maybe seven.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
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Speaker 1 (17:41):
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Spent the day at Ravens camp. Okay, so give me
your sense. Ravens who Lamar Jackson's been dealing with some
strange illness that has kept him out grant.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
It's very early on, but I mean, what's his status.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
He's fine now, he's been he's been backdug in the
last couple days. But I will tell you about Lamar
and illnesses. This is like three years now that he
had a COVID issue at one point, but where he
just doesn't feel right and he's left. He left, you know,
he goes home from practice and.

Speaker 6 (18:22):
Not feeling well.

Speaker 8 (18:23):
So he's good.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
I mean, now he did return last week briefly, then
left again, and now he's been back practicing for good hopefully.
I think this is at least three days that he's
practiced in a row. So I'll tell you what if
someone said to me from the Ravens today, we were
just kind of catching up and this is definitely a
story because the league has not really said anything like this.
You're talking about a power runner and Derrick Henry team

(18:46):
that wants to run the ball anyway and one of
the best duel for a quarterbacks in NFL history. As
this person said, I agree, how our team's going to
defend them. I'm so looking forward to seeing what that's
going to look like earlier on the season.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah, to me, interesting does he have Does he have
sickle cell or sickle cell trade? I mean probably that's
protected by hip. I mean, that's one possible explanation for
why some of these illnesses affect him more than they
would affect other guys.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Obviously it's a genetically inherited trade.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
And I just wonder because again, I mean, he is
the picture of health outside of that, and yeah, this
was a really elongated illness. Okay, So last year it was, Hey,
we want to show you that Lamar Jackson can really
throw the football, and we're going to evolve our pass game.
This year it's now we're going to get back to

(19:30):
just ground and pound and run the football.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
What do you think the offense comes together and looks.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Like I think it's gonna be phenomenal. It's gonna be
doug more of a twelve personal offense. What that means
is two tight ends, two receivers, and a running back
and opposite the quarterback. So you're not going to see
a lot of eleven personnel, which is three receivers and
one back and one ted end. And it's, by the way,
it's mostly because of Isaiah Likely the ted end for

(19:55):
Coast to Carolina from a couple of years ago, who
filled in really well for Mark Andrews, who is backham
his injury, and those two the best tend and doing
with the National FOOTBA League. They're phenomenal together. Andrews is
a for more or many times, and he's phenomenal and
likely he's great. He's a little bit smaller than Andrews,
but both as a cane and Todd Muck and the

(20:16):
offense coordinator in their second year together. This thing. We'll
make our picks for the season at the end of August.
But and you always learn stuff when you're with a club,
and you're not always going to be right with what
you see. But offensively they're gonna they should, they have
a chance to be phenomenal. But defensively, I do want
to mention Zach l Or. This is his first year

(20:36):
as defense coordinator. He's the youngest coordinator offense defensive special
teams of the National FOOTB League. Is a former linebacker
for them whose career got touch up due to injury. Doug,
it's thirty one years old.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Wow, thirty one years old.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Well, like, listen, the fact that he's played in he
knows that obviously puts them ahead of it. Okay, now,
how many times you've seen the Eagles at four times?

Speaker 3 (21:02):
I'll see them tonight like in the Financial Stadium, and
I fly out to LA to see five teams. I
think over the weekend. But if Philly looks better. I'll
say this last year was a disaster, you know, I've
talked about on the FSR ten and one, then sick
out of the final seven, embarrassed in the playoffs the
big thing for them, and I'm I could just tell
there's something different, and it's because they have been much veteran.

(21:24):
More of a veteran staff, to veteran coordinators offensive defense
that's going to help, and more of a veteran group
of assistant coaches. They brought too many coaches from college
football last season and it showed.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Yeah, well they also they just didn't have that there
was something missing between the quarterback and the play calling.
It didn't the year before there was such a rhythm
to it. There wasn't rhythm to it. How they change that?

Speaker 3 (21:51):
All right? So Kellen Moore and Siriani is going to
have to give up his scheme, as I understand, it
was pretty much gonna have to change, and he did.
Kellen Moore, who, by the way, interview for the same
hit coaching job that Nick Syrianna got three years ago,
and Eagles hired Nick and Kellen would move on back
to Dallas and then over to the Chargers. Last season,
but they wanted The Eagles are a team. They're completely

(22:16):
different organizationally football wise from the Ravens. They want to
throw the football. Yes, they signed Sakway Barkley. They love Barkley,
who played their same division, but they still want to
be a versatile team. And it's just going to look different.
I mean, it really is just being there at training camp,
but it's not what I'm used to. When I watch
the Eagles, they usually have a good act but not
an elite back or a great back like Barkley than

(22:37):
we know about his injury history. But they also have
a very good receiver corps with to the best of
the National Football League with Smith, and I'll see a
j Brown, Dallas Goddard who didn't have a great season
last season. But I think it's more because Hurts regressed.
You were talking about whatever their offense. I think what
happened there Doug to checking into it. It was more
that the league said, Okay, we're not going to let

(22:59):
Jail Hurts beat us with his legs anymore. That's not
going to happen. And they teams stopped that fist defender
in the box. They took away a lot of those
those designed runs and they made jail in the password
like it was two years ago and it just didn't happen.
Just kind of figure them out and tell them Moore
is more of a spread off as this guy, and
I'm I'm looking forward to seeing what this looks like.
But they're going to be better, but they're not going

(23:19):
to be nearly as good as the twenty two team,
which is one of the best teams I've seen Eagles
put out in the years.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Stuck Gotlab show here on Fox Sports Radio. I'm sure
you've heard the news of the day, which is justin
Herbert Planner fashion. I just know you're going out to
California to uh to see the Chargers. I'm guessing the
Rams and and of course the Cowboys practice practice there
as well. What are your what are your thoughts on
the Chargers one? Now, you know you're devoid of the

(23:47):
star talent at outside the numbers, UH. You talk about
the Ravens, it's basically the old Greg Roman Ravens. You
got it Bill's Niners when he was at Hardbass scheme.
Has it all come together in year one?

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Funny because talking to the Ravens, they asked me where
I was going. They said, oh, you're gonna see Greg. Well,
we know they're gonna be running a football course. I mean,
that's as one GM told me, the most sophisticated run
game that that. The team that I was talked to
a couple of months ago is the Charger on their schedule.
He said, they're so tough, they're so unorthodox the ways
they scheme it. They're gonna be run based. You're right,

(24:22):
Doug Clint Johnson will start a receiver. It was definite
in the first round by a different regime with the
Chargers and Lad mcconzie, who I got to tell you
was incredible to the Senior Bowl by for the best
five yards getting off the line that I saw at
this past Senior Bowl. His phenomenal is the second round
pick out of out of Churgor is terrific. And look,
but the thing for them is they're they're they're transitioning.

(24:45):
The defense is going to look different. Their offense obviously
is gonna be run based. And I'll say this about
Jim Harball, he wins everywhere he goes. That's why the
oddsmakers are It seems like everyone's betting that over an
eight and a half. I I think that's a little
strong thinking they're going to be a winning team in
the first year. I think the roster's good enough, but
we know what's coming. You and I agree it's going

(25:06):
to be run based.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
You know, I'm fascinated by the Dolphins.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
You know, I get that you haven't had a quarterback
since Dan Reno that you really felt good about. But
we've seen that ceiling with Tua the past couple of years,
and you know he has been oft injured. So this
feels like the last year in which you're going to
be able to surround him with this all star cast
of talented players. What's the league saying about the Dolphins.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Look, everyone's thought to his deal would get done. They
know he was going to get fifty five million a year.
He's didn't get too far from it. But the league
says this, this is what teams have told me about
to when they go up against him. If he gets
a clean look on that first read, that ball's coming
out and he looks great. If you make him think
if he holds onto the ball, he's going to get hit,
and it doesn't matter how much ball he puts onto

(25:55):
his frame, he struggles the longer he has the ball
in the football. That's the number show up at the
tape shows. Now they are a twelve personal team. They
don't spread the ball out. They will run the football.
There's so much about it. Mike Urdaina comes from that
Shanahan tree. They're thick and balance or thick and run first.
And by the way, I will be with the Dolphins
when they hosted Falcons and the Sokos on Tuesday Wednesday

(26:17):
and Miami. I look forward to that. But the Dolphins
will be good. And that division, by the way, with
Aaron Rodgers back, is going to be very, very competitive
other than the Patriots.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
You know, it's interesting.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
There is because Russell Wilson missed the first couple of
practice practice.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
There are people like, oh, well, Justin Fields could take
that job.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
And then we've seen some interceptions, We've seen some of
the flaws of Justin Fields. I don't think for one
second Justin Fields really has a legit chance in the
first five six games to ever play. There's a reason
he was out there on the market and there wasn't
much given up to get him. But what are you
hearing in regards to Pittsburgh in their quarterback situation.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
So talking to someone there with the Steelers about the
quart of so, look, it's very clearly Russell Wilson they're
expecting to start. I know Tomlin. Mike Tomlin kind of
left it there open just a spids after saying in
the off season there's really going to be no competition. Well,
it's because Wilson it's been hurt and you know he's
limited and Fields had to it for good days. But

(27:17):
you're right, Jessic Field is very, very gifted, but he's
never played consistent football. It's bailing the pocket, it's hanging
in there. He's got all the town in the world, Doug,
but he's never been a consistent quarterback. And here's the thing,
Arthur Smith, They're going to run the heck out of
the football. You know it's coming. That's why he got
the job of other possibilities. That's what Mike Tomlin wants

(27:40):
by away. That's organization that comes from the Rooney family.
Talking to people with the Steelers, they want to run
the football first and they're going to get it. They've
got a great tandem, see the Steelers, Doug. To finish
the Steelers stock off. Their feeling was this. They got
bad quarterback play last year and they were still a
playoff team. I know they haven't won a playoff game
since seventeen under Mike. What their feeling is if they

(28:02):
get a little bit better played with Russell Wilson and
not the variants they got with Kenny Pickett Mitch Trubisky,
but they can go farther and that's what's coming, folks.
You're steel fan, Smash bout football.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
The Niners are sitting there and this is the last
year Brock Purdy making no money, and there's been a
bunch of picks in the preseason, and he's like, look,
now's the time to take chances and try some things.
We have what we saw that last year when he
when they were down the Deebo, when they were down
in NYUK, when they were down in Trent Williams. They're
down when the star players are Christian McCaffrey. That's when

(28:36):
he struggled. What's their level of confidence in their quarterback
being able to have the same type of year next
this year that he had last year.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
Now, I would say this, there were times when Deebo
Samiel by the way, and it was really what they'd
noticed in the numbers. When Deebo doesn't play, they're a
different team because only he does catching and running it.
And then, by the way, you have the brandon I situation.
So they still think will be with them this season.
They're still trying to figure out way to make it
happy and be reasonable with a contract. But no, they listen.

(29:05):
Kyle Shanahan is a balanced guy. He talks about his openers.
They have to have a certain amount of runs in
the first half. He doesn't look at it analytically like
other teams do. And they're gonna run the football. They're
gonna have balance, and they're not asking party to thirty
three times a game if everybody's healthy. That's, by the way,
one of the best defense in the National FOOTBA League.
They play to their defense, a running game dog. It's

(29:26):
not gonna change.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Awesome stuff as always, that's Adam Kaplan. Of course, you
can check out his Inside the Birds podcast as well,
and of course he'll be at He's been in Philly,
Philly's camp, Ravens camp would be out on his West
Coast swing coming up as well. He is our Fox
Sports Radio NFL Insider cap. You're the best man. Thanks
for joining us. Thank you all right, So Doug gotlig

(29:48):
show here on Fox Sports Treader. Come up next liventhtirat
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Speaker 2 (29:55):
You'll hear from Aaron Rodgers next.

Speaker 8 (29:57):
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Speaker 2 (30:09):
No boom hold feel hell hold on. We don't know
where he are you?

Speaker 3 (30:14):
No ho.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Hell you know Mike's always on eh hold one.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Sorry, guys, I'm playing a mean air guitar. This not
this part when when he gets to the air guitar
plays part of the reason I played an ergamenior guitar this.
When I went to Notre Dame in nineteen ninety five,
it felt like everyone on the first floor, Dylan Hall
was learning to play the guitar all to this song.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
So like in my mind I had, but I don't
know in my brain. Every morning when okup, oh.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
Of that?

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Oh hell? Hell hello man, oh hi.

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Speaker 5 (32:18):
There's football tonight, ad somebody Texans and Bears.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
I got a question for you, ye question for Dan?
You played football? Were you a spat tape guy? A
what spat?

Speaker 6 (32:36):
I don't know what that is.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Spat's when you have the tape on your ankles and
the figure eight on your shoes outside on your shoes.

Speaker 9 (32:44):
Oh.

Speaker 5 (32:45):
I never taped my ankles for football. Okay, yeah, I
never never had two basketball yes, but no, I know
this may be crazy, but no, I was a defensive
back and receiver in high cool didn't fit my profile.
And like third string quarterback, I have no arm whatsoever.

Speaker 6 (33:06):
None.

Speaker 5 (33:07):
You go to those speed pitches at the fairs, I'm
throwing lukewarm water. There is no heat whatsoever.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
No, we noticed. We've been out the NFL camps with you.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Forget Chargers camp last couple of years.

Speaker 5 (33:20):
I throw football over. How's the deal? You guys are
are joking? But because I don't throw the football that
you know, I don't have a I don't have a cannon.
He's just trying to stick to fifteen yard routes. Nobody
ever goes deep with me because it's not going to
get there anyway. Aaron Rodgers has gone deep. He went
deep yesterday in response to Robert Sala's comments that he

(33:43):
wasn't playing in the preseason.

Speaker 9 (33:48):
Pre Do you stand on playing in the preseason? Yeah,
I mean that's that's Robert's decision. I've never told him
I don't want to play in the preseason. There's a
lot of if thoughts about whether there's any particular game
from it. Yeah, we used to play all the time.

(34:08):
Now nobody wants to play. They don't want to play
their guys. It's different to combat that.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Now.

Speaker 9 (34:15):
We've done all these practices with other teams, so we
have three of those. I'm assuming those will be like
our super heavy days and then it'll be like the
preseason for us.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Yeah, it does feel like I don't know if they're
on a different page or what they're on.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
But Aaron just not easy. Correct, It's just not easy.
Just go Hey, that's what Robert wants. I'm on board
whatever he wants. He's the coach, I'm the player.

Speaker 5 (34:43):
It's a pick your battles sort of thing as well.
But he just wants to pick every single battle correct, correct,
every single one. This isn't that big of a deal.
I mean, he also could have just handled it just
different as well if he disagreed. But that's Aaron Rodgers
for you. Buccaneer's tackle. Tristan wirfs oud a five year

(35:04):
extension word one hundred and forty million dollars, making him
the highest paid offensive lineman in the NFL and not
the biggest news in the NFL today though. Justin Herbert
out for the next couple of weeks. He'll be in
a walking boot because of an injury to his right foot,
injury to the planter fascia, according to the Chargers, but
they believe he'll be there for Week one against the Raiders.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
There is a world there.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
I doubt it happens because we all think Jim Harbaugh
knows he's doing They're going to win, got a good plan,
So world there where. Essin Herbert's only playoff appearance is
a colossal collapse against the Jacksonville Jaguars and then beset
by injuries. Remind you of anybody else in southern California
who had one shot at the playoffs and then has
never been able to be back in the playoffs. That's

(35:45):
often injured yet still thought of as one of the
greatest in his sport.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
Yeah, Angel, Yeah, Mike Trout.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Let's hope that's something happens.

Speaker 5 (35:55):
Doug veteran forward Gordon Hayward retiring after a fourteen year
career in the NBA.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
I've never understood the infatuation with the half court shot
that didn't go in by against Butler. People forget he
missed a mid range kind of floater pull up along
the baseline before that, and that half court shot was
only possibly a winning shot because Mike Krzyzewski ordered Brian Zubek,
his center, to miss the free throw intentionally, which made
no sense none.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
But like, we're so in fashionate with the shot that
didn't go in.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
What Gordon Awards probably most remembered for people forget he
was the biggest name free agent one summer and in
the first quarter of his first game with the Boston Celtics,
he broke his leg in half.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Right.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
It was like, I mean, it was Aaron Rodgers esque,
only more in his prime, and he's never the same sense.

Speaker 5 (36:43):
Yeah, I wondered if it was the injury or the
Butler shot that he would be most known for, because
I do think that those are the two things.

Speaker 6 (36:52):
That stand out most in his career.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Agreed.

Speaker 5 (36:56):
I would say I would still say the shot and
to your Doug, yeah, like it did. I mean, you know,
hit the rim, you know, but we act.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Like it was like round round round.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
She just fell out, like, yes, their backboard hit the rim,
didn't go in like okay.

Speaker 5 (37:16):
Yes, Simone Biles gets gold and the women's all around today.
But we look ahead to the end of the Olympics
with our There are reports that Tom Cruise will be
a part of the closing ceremony at the Paris Games,
taking part in a dramatic stunt as Paris hands off
the Olympic flag to Los Angeles for the twenty twenty

(37:39):
eight Games. But Tom Cruise expected to be a part
of the closing ceremony.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
I think Tom Cruise and Simone Biles are the same height, right.

Speaker 6 (37:50):
Do they have She doesn't have a center tooth though
like he does.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
She does not.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
That's the press, Get out there and pressed.

Speaker 8 (37:57):
That was the press.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
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