How The Patriots Keep Doing It & Colin Cowherd

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college football to discuss, as well as shocker Alabama is
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Has anybody been paying attention to what Clemson has been
doing the fools? Clemson was a thirty nine and a
half point favorite to Louisville Louisville two years ago. That

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was game of the year in the a SEC thirty
nine a half point favorite, and they covered and it
wasn't close. They have had absolute laughers against former rivals
in back to back to back weeks. This is one
of those where you know, we talk about schedules in
college football and like, look, if you look at clemson
schedule early in the year or before the season began,

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you would have said, and I know, Louisville losing Lamar Jackson,
but you would have said man Florida State and Louisville
on back to back weeks. A matter of fact, they
had NC State, who returned up preseason first round draft
pick quarterback. They at NC State, Florida State, and Louisville
back to back back, like oh, were they gonna drop
one of those? They smacked all three. Can't go and so.

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But on their schedule Florida State and Clemson looked like
they didn't schedule up. Well, they're in the a c
C and those are supposed to be two of the
best teams in the CEC. We'll get back to that
in a second. Let's get to some NFL um The
Patriots are my brother Greg, and I am the Packers.

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I haven't played my brother in ping pong or in
basketball in years, but the last time I played both,
I lost for no apparent reason. Now, differently than the
Patriots and the Packers are Brady and Rogers. Now, I'm
actually prohibitively better than my brother in both ping pong

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and in basketball. I had a long winning streak in both.
But he found a way to get it done and
he and he walked off never he sat down the
paddle to never play ping pong again and has never
played me in basketball again. I started beating him when
he was in college and I was like a junior
in high school. And after like going into my senior

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year in college, he caught a heater, beat me in
one game of one on one, walked out the gym,
and has never played me again. Very very bright guy.
Or maybe do you guys remember the movie Tin Cup?
Of course you do, right, I remember remember the movie
Tin Cup? Um. In the movie Tin Cup, there are

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two I would say, you know, there's the protagonist and antagonist.
It's a Kevin Costner movie. And Renee Russo is taking
lessons from Kevin Costner. Who's like the local cup club
pro who could have been great not for the mental game.
And Don Johnson is one of the best players on tour.

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Don Johnson, who plays David Sims is the boyfriend of
Dr Molly Griswold. And Kevin Costner has way, way, way
more game as Roy mckerel McAvoy then David Simms does.
He's one of the best ball strikers ever in golf.
That's what they view mess. So at one point in

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time they're playing as he's trying to uh Roy McKell
mury mcivoy is trying to qualify for the US Open,
and they're playing on local track, and after playing around
and having a couple of drinks, David Simms says, I
bet you I can hit a seven iron further than
you can. Roy McElroy says, note, no nobody hits this.

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I always hit the seven iron pure always, And he
smacks it like a d eighty five yards. And so
what's David Simms do? He turned, turns and he hits
it down the road. So it keeps rolling and rolling
and rolling and rolling and rolling. And Roy McAvoy, I
believe he lost the pink slip to a pink Cadillac

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at the time. I can't remember the movie. That's basically
the Patriots versus the Packers and Aaron Rodgers. This is
what makes the goat conversation so difficult. I'm not saying
Aaron Rodgers played great last night. There were some misthrows.
Even the very last throw on fourth down, in which

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he was under darrest. You felt like he could have
stepped in and throwing it better, or run for the
first down on fourth and four. Probably could have. There
was a little bit of white flag waved by the Packers,
who had an untimely fumbled by their running back to
once again take them off schedule and put them behind
a team on the road, much like last week when

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Time Montgomery fumbled when they were down uh two points
late in the game. The point is this, I could
easily make the case that though Tom Brady was efficient,
frankly magnificent, considering Tom Brady didn't have Gronk and didn't
have Sony Michelle. And if you've actually watched the Patriots
this year, not watched the highlights, Gronk still important, but

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they become a power running team. You got a double
team Grounk and you gotta bring an extra guy in
the box. Both of them weren't playing, so they had
to dink and dunk, dunk and just play fuel position
and outsmart you the Patriot way. But they just much
like David Simms, had the mental game and the the
fortitude and the ability to win golf tournaments, the ability

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to win the longest drive competition even though he didn't
actually hit the ball further, That's how the Patriots seemed
to figure it out. They figured out a way to win. Now,
is there a predetermined bias from yours truly that that
Aaron Rodgers is a more skillful, better quarterback? Sure? Sure?

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Or And by the way, when I say that, I
don't think Tom Brady is the greatest quarterback of all time.
If there are ten thou quarterbacks in the history of
the NFL, and I think he's second, third, or fourth,
it's sound like I'm saying he sucks. It's just I'm
saying I think Aaron Rodgers better. Now part of me
is being brought around around to the the idea of

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the reason we play sports is to see who wins
and who loses, right, not who looks better doing it.
It's better to win ugly than lose pretty. But if
you watched last night's game and the things that Aaron
Rodgers can do and the way in which he can

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elevate teammates, and start to say to yourself, well, one
guy throws the ball betteran the other guy. One guy
is more mobile than the other guy. One guy is
always having to kind of make things up in the fly,
and it it's hard for us to tell, like, wait,
is he supposed to be running around or is he
running around because he's all he's under pressure? Is he
always under pressure because he's running around? Or is he

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running around and always under pressure because his offensive line stinks?
Or is wide receivers can't get open? But I watched
I watched two games both and the Patriots game kind
of Patriots win over the Packers kind of ended with
a dud, but it wasn't really a dudd. It was
still a good football game. I watched the Saints lead

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kick off to finish and beat the Rams. That was
a great football was not a letdown in any way.
I was exciting. That was thrilling, the Rams amounting a
comeback the ship, the Saints going after Marcus Peters who
lived down to the reputation as a guy who was
more interested in trying to make plays on the ball

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than he was actually covering his man. There was so much,
but I just I can't fall into the trap of
only being results oriented. The better team doesn't always win,
the better quarterback doesn't always win. That sports, That's the
beauty of sports. I do think the Patriots are a

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better team than the Packers, but I don't think Brady
is the better quarterback than Rogers. And while I think
the Saints are a very good team, and I thought
it was really smartly pointed out during the broadcast that
the Saints have remade their defense through the NFL Draft
over the past two years, bringing younger, more athletic, and

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cheaper players into New Orleans as they were in Salary
cap Hell a couple of years ago. And just hint, hint,
one of John Gruten's closest friends and a former reminded
of Ohio guy as well as a guy who worked
with him in Philadelphia, is Sean Payton. What do you
think John Gruten's getting these ideas of getting a bunch
of draft picks and drafting a young athletic defense. Duh.

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But even though the Saints beat the Rams, I still
contend the ram are better, more complete, they would beat
more teams on a neutral field. And even though the
Patriots beat the Packers and Tom Brady's numbers in the
fourth quarter were far better than Aaron Rodgers, I would

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still contend that Aaron Rodgers is better than Tom Brady.
Is some of this a predetermined bias, Yeah, I'll admit
to his such. I'm not gonna sit here and lie
to you and tell you that, you know, I didn't
think the Rams were better, even though they were going
on the road where New Orleans is prohibitively better. But

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I can also tell you that I watched both games
and I walked away thinking, you know, play here, play there,
played on neutral field, I still think the Rams are better,
and a play here, a play there, fumble here, a
less fumble there. I still prefer Rogers to Tom Brady.

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And just like I'm not saying Tom Brady sucks alling
him the second or third, I think Joe Montana is
right there in the greatest quarterbacks I've ever seen play
the sport of football. I'm not sitting here telling you
the Saints aren't one of the two or three best
teams in the NFL. I just think that if you
you make me choose between the Saints and the Rams,

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let me take the Rams. We take the Rams. Saints
have a really difficult and just like the Saints may
lose this week to the Bengals because the Bengals were
off and the Saints played arguably the game of the
year in the NFL or one of the games of
the year in the NFL at home and expended a
ton of energy. That doesn't make me, doesn't make me

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think that the Bengals are then better than the Saints.
It's not all about the results. So I look at
that final score and I tell you that the Saints
are real, they are legitimate, and if they can maintain
home field, there's no reason that Drew Brees doesn't get

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another shot at the Super Bowl. By still think the
Rams are better too, and the Patriots ability to be
pragmatic to just find a way to win each individual game.
I heard Colin Coward will play that he's gonna join
us later on, Right, Coward's gonna join us later on.
He's like, well, the Patriots don't even have an offense.

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You're right, their offense is whatever the hell it takes
to win that game. They are what I hope Tomorrow's
election day, I hope you all vote right. And my
favorite politicians are the ones that are pragmatic. See the problem,

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Identify the problem, admit to the problem, find a way
to fix the problem, hopefully without bleeding the public dry. Right,
regardless of the conflicting alliances of who paid for you
to get the job to begin with. See the problem,
address the problem, and that that's what the page. That's
why the Patriots have been so successful for so long.

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They're pragmatic in the guys they get for their defense
and offense each offseason, trying to balance the books and
balance how they'd like to play, and then evaluating how
they play after three or four weeks and adding a
piece like a Josh Gordon here or there, and then
on a game to game basis, I mean, you go back,
you're like, are they a three or four team? Are

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they a four? Three team? And the only thing people
in football will tell you is yes, there, whatever the
hell their personnel says, they should be based upon the
team that they're playing. You know, it's it's the genius
to the genius to Amazon, right, Amazon was a small

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fledgling company like fifteen twenty years ago, and now Amazon
makes TV shows, they make movies, they stream stuff, you
can order whatever you want. They they got the Alexa
smart technology. They went out and bought you know, whole foods.
They're like, well, you know, listen, we could keep you know,

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we could keep selling you you know, food that arrives
at your doorstep, and we could also do the high
end stuff as well. Like they just figure out a way.
And when you have a ton of money, obviously it's
an easy way, like oh, let's buy that, do that.
But the idea is to be an all encompassing company.
And the Patriots obviously have been blessed with a great

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kicking game, going from one Hall of Famer to the next.
They've obviously been very fortunate to have Tom Brady, who's
only been hurt one time. They've they've put a bunch
of money into protecting Tom Brady when Rob Gronkowski has
been healthy, They've found ways to have an offense around

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the strength of a tight end. When they had Randy Moss,
it was around he was He's the greatest stretcher of
a defense in the history of the league. So they
found a way to make it work based upon their
personnelit that's their style and whether it feels like when
you play your old man in the driveway, right, he

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backs you down. He's got an ugly game. He throws
in left hand hook shots. He's not athletic, not fast,
not in shape, but you know what, just gets enough buckets.
So at the end of the game, he's got eleven
and you got nine, and he's got bragging rights. My

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brother last time he played me one on one, going
back one years ago, No, nineteen years ago. I'm not
that old. I'll last super Bowl champion. Trend deal for
what he thinks of the Brady versus Rogers matchup. Plus,
the Steelers continue to roll without Levy on Bell and
wait till you hear what a couple of their offensive
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so last night was supposed to be like that's it,

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end all debates who's the best. But it doesn't really
work that way in football because well Tom Brady didn't
have Gronk and didn't have Sonny Michelle and Aaron Rodgers
plays for the Green Bay Packers, who uh in these
big games, seemed to have a guy not named Rodgers
find a way to take them off track and put
them on a better track of losing a football game.

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What was your takeaway from watching two of the best
to ever do it doing the same field. I thought
it was way over hyped going in, like quarterbacks don't
play one on one pickup versus one another UM, and
it kind of ended up being that way. I didn't
think either player played great. I think they'd be the
first to tell you. I didn't think either quarterback was
as sharp as um they are when they're on their

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A games. Aaron overthrew, I mean under threw some press
man for goals you had a chance to score on.
I think I can definitely remember too. There might have
been three um that he had a chance to underthrew
Brady over through a couple of guys earned during a
couple of balls, neither of them were on fire. That
the plays that really were made were kind of scheme

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plays where the coordinators kind of dialed up the right
play at the right time. Even a long touchdown pastor
Gordon and Brady. He left it inside. That safety could
have made a play on that ball, and that bull
should have been pushed to the boundary. So for as
much hype as the game was given, I thought from
the quarterback perspective, it wasn't either one of their best
games and and therefore we're not going to walk away

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with any definitive statement about either one of those guys.
We know they're both great. Um, I thought I had
a lot to do. I thought I had a lot
more to do with the other eight eight guys on
the field, to be quite honest with you, and I
think the Patriots are are getting better and better, and
the and the Packers aren't. You know what, what's the
matter with the Packers? Well, I think, as you said,
they're finding ways to mess up games. They've had some

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really tough call to go against them this year. If
we go back to the Minnesota game, they had that
game one and then a horrible rough in the pastor
call costs him that one. Last night. I think the
ejection of the safety was hogwash, that that he should
not have been ejected. They've had some tough breaks this year. UM.
I think offensively, they're they're too static for my liking.
And I think if you look at the great offenses

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right now in football, um, there's a lot of movement.
There's a lot of ships, there's motions, there's different sets,
there's um bells and whistles in the backfield action. It's
it's it looks like Saturday football. I think it's the
easiest way to say. The best NFL offenses look like
college offenses, and Green Bay looks like they looked eight
years ago. They line up in the same sets they

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have forever. They're either going to get in two backs
and run the ball and play action, or they're gonna
spread out and be in the gun and use seven
different snap counts, try to get you to jump off
sides and maybe make a big player throw a slant
or throw a stick route to the tight end. And
there's just not a lot of creativity, not a lot
of innovation offensively. And I think it Aaron has to
work harder for his to move his team than some

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of these other quarterbacks uh doing the league. Do you
think that a coaching change fixes that? It sure seems
as if this thing has gotten old. I mean, this
is now three or four years of talking about the
same stuff with McCarthy and Aaron. Um tell me if
you felt this. I thought Aaron looked old last night,
like He looked burdened. It looked heavy. It didn't look

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like he's having any fun. There was no And I'm
not blaming Aaron for this. It just seems like there's
it's It just looks heavy, you can see in his eyes.
And I gotta believe that a lot of this is
this McCarthy Roger stuff that's been going on for years
and and now that I see the offense not driving
the way it probably should because they have good players.

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I'm sticky here and that they don't have good players.
They have good players, they have a great quarterback. They
should be better offensively than they are. And I think
maybe at the time is come where there needs to
be a change up in Green day because air is
not going anywhere. So it's either it's either the coach
or the or the quarterback. And we know the quarterback's
not going anywhere, So who's the who's the guy who?

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It's one thing to come in and have your own
system and to try and change it, but you have
to have Aaron buy in. I just I don't know
of the guy out there. Um considering you know, all
the Eagles guys have all seemingly landed jobs. You know,
I mean, who's the guy who can come in and say,
all right, Aaron, listen, we're gonna take what you've always done,

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we're gonna tweak it some and we're gonna get we're
gonna refresh it, and we're gonna go in and try
and get to a super Bowl. I don't know that
guy is off the top of my head. But there's
a lot of really good coaches out there. There's a
lot of young coaches out of energy that are innovative,
um that could um bring some life to what the
package are doing. I mean, just in general, it just

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seems heavy and not yeah, no, no, no, I have
as much juice as some of the other teams. I mean,
you watch these other teams and there's they have juice offensively.
Green Day just doesn't. And then every sideline shot to
McCarthy looks angry, and every sideline shot to Rogers looks angry,
and every sideline shot to Clay Matthews, he looks angry.

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Like there's no nobody looks like they're enjoying the journey
in the NFL. And I've lived it, and when it's
not fun, it's horrible, and you have to find ways
to keep it fun and exciting and stimulating. You got
to stimulate a great player like Aaron Rodgers. You gotta
bring new stock every week to him to keep him
interesting because he is a savant. He's not just talented,

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he's also a football savant. Like he gets bored with
football if you don't energize them. And that I guess
that's I'm not saying as well as i'd like to
say it. I just think the overall picture in Green
Bay looks heavy and burdensome and not fun enough. You know,
it's you know, it's like it's like and I don't
know if you know any couples like this try and
deal for joining us in the dug outlip Show. There

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are people that don't have to get divorced, right, Like,
there's no they don't have but they've just been together
too long and you know what, they're happy. Then they
get divorce, you like, there they end up having great
lives together, still raise their kids, like McCarthy probably gets
the Brown's job or another job anyway, and Aaron Rodgers
there just does come a point to which, you know what,

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divorce is not always a bad word. It's that does
somebody doesn't always have to cheat in order to get
a divorce. It just a relationship has run its course. Yes,
let's let's let's get to Let's get to the Chargers
who only won by eight and had to have a
deflection on a Russell Wilson pass in order to survive

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having you know, an untimed down deflection. Otherwise, Uh, they
would have had to stave off Russell Wilson going for
two on the road in Seattle. But they left seven
points on the field because of Caleb Sturgis. Sturgis was
cut today. But my takeaway is, damn that team is talented.
They were much better in every phase except for kicking

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than the Seahawks, and they still haven't played Joey Bosa
this year. Um, at what point do we start discussing
whether or not the l A Chargers are viable threats
to the Patriots and to the top of the c
I really think they are. I think it's Patriots chiefs,
and I have questions about the Chiefs defense, uh, And

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in Chargers, I think they are. They're physical, you know,
they're it's certain teams. And I love all this new
stuff in offense, and I love the scoring I'm not
criticized the NFL or not be physical enough, but you really,
the physical teams really stand out these days because there's
a lot of teams that aren't overly physical. The Chargers
are physical. They're very physical and offensive line Melvin Gordon

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runs in the physical nature. The receivers are big and
physical guys that don't get They don't let the defenders
wrestle them around. Um defensively that their pass russes are physical.
They don't just rush the pastor but they pushed the pocket.
They have what I call knocked back like their defensive
front knocks you back. They may not always get to
the past, so they're gonna knock you backwards on their way. Um.

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Their secondary can hit UM. I really like the Chargers,
and you know, I mean, I've always been a huge
build Purpose, so now that they've surrounded him with one
of the best run games in football, the action pass game,
the big shots, he can always go into completion mode,
just complete sending percent of his balls if you spread
them out. So I really like the Chargers. I think

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it's gonna be fascinating to watch that division that keeps
some Charges the rest of the season. Can see how
it unfolds. Everybody's kind of given it to the Chiefs,
and I I personally have not. The Saints beat the Rams,
hand the Rams their first loss. I you know, look
Marcus Peters going after going after the ball instead of
worrying about Michael Thomas. It has become a problem. They
need to keep to lead back. For sure. I still

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like the Rams. I might even like them even more
even though they lost. What what you when you watch
Saints Rams? What's the first couple of things you have
as a takeaway. I think the Saints are better than
I thought they were, not just because they won the game,
but how diverse they are, how many dimensions they have. Offensively, Uh,
they have one of the greatest quarterbacks that's ever played.

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And the year goes on and the season gets harder
and teams have more information on you. That's where the
great quarreb actually separate themselves. I think Drew will do that. Um. Defensively,
they're good. They're not great, but they're good. That's what
that was my takeaway the Saints for the Rams. I
love the Rams. I think that they'll runaway through division
because their division is terrible and they're gonna score a

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bunch of points. I've always felt this about Wade Phillips
coach defenses, and I love coach Phillips season awesome dude
and a great coach. There is a butt. There is
a butt, and it's this kind of internal conversation among
quarterbacks that played against his defenses for years. By the
end of the year, he played such a few. They

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have a very small package defensively, they're very predictable. What
they do. They do very well because the year goes
on in big games and there's that extra preparation, you
know what they're going to be doing. And when you
know what the defense is doing and you have them
down to a t that you can scheme around that
and create what I call freebes. And that play to
Thomas was a freebee, a motion in an empty set

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that created a no safety look to that side or
one on one with Peters and the inside technique, and
that's a free that's a scheme play because they knew
they could motion into that and get that exact matchup
they're looking for and against the Rams, against the way
Phillips coach defense, you can do that a bunch at
the end of the year because you have a lot
of information on them, and you're gonna put a little

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more time into your preparation. And it always scares me
when a when a coach doesn't expand his package at
the end of the year what they can do defensively.
I think the great quarterbacks just um salivate at the
opportunity of playing against the defense where they know who
they're gonna be, where they're gonna line up, and what
coverage it is. Van Dial for joining us on the
Doug Gotlips Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That that's

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fascinating because so many people think their defense is their strength,
and you know, offensively, would you tell the dogs to
pipe down? We're doing award winning radio here. Do for Sorry,
my dogs are paying the butt. Yeah, yeah, no, listen,
I understand mine gets me up at five three in
the morning and wonders why I'm not in a great mood.

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All right, let's get to the Cowboys tonight. How much
better will they be without with Marie Cooper. I think
they need to be better. They need to focus on
him early. They need to give them involved. Um. It's
not just that they need to win, but they need
to win in a more exciting way. Offensively. They need
to again breathe some energy into that organization with this trade.

(29:35):
I think he's that kind of player. I think he
is a guy you can target ten times tonight. He's
been there plenty long to to get integrated into the system,
and you need to go out of your waker Scott Linahan,
oftens coordinator to get him involved. I think, and you
listen almost every week we did the show, we have
to have a Cowboys segment. Every radio show across the
country has to have a Cowboys segment. Every TV show

(29:56):
has to have a Cowboys segment. There just a team
that everybody wants to talk about. So that if you
know that as a coaching staff and you want to
give people something good to talk about, what you can't
give them is, hey, we made this trade and he
was just another one of the eleven out there on office.
He needs to be a focal point of what they
do tonight against Tennessee Titan. I couldn't agree with you more.

(30:17):
I'm fascinated, fascinated to see cut more cut, more quickies.
The Steelers continue to win without Levy on Bell. He's
got a report report by the thirteen, otherwise he loses
that year and now you have you know, David Akasho, like,
I can't talk about a guy who's not here, other
guys saying I love playing with with James Conner. When
Levian comes back, how much do you think he'll actually

(30:38):
even get the football? He's gonna have to earn it.
I think he's, you know, because the decision he made,
He's gonna have to earn the respect back from his teammates.
He's gonna have to earn touches um. He's gonna have
to earn his right to be part of this juggernaut
offensively because James Conner has done a great job. Now
I think he can. I think he's very uniquely talented back.

(31:00):
He can give you a lot more than just um
than just as a runner. So I think, you know,
if you're an offensive play caller, if you're the coordinator,
you're you know, you're getting them in the right now.
You're finding ways to get him involved in the offense
without taking carries away from corner. And there's plenty ways
of doing that in the screen game, the drop back
pass game and play action game. Um, but I think

(31:21):
he's gotta earn He's got to walk in that locker
room and realize that he's been a giant distraction for
this team and he's got to earn their respect and
and earn his touches. I'm I'm a little concerned. This
was my concern with Sam Donald, right that because you're
running for your life, you have nobody to hand the
ball off to or throw to, you end up getting
in bad habits. How hard will these habits, these survival

(31:42):
techniques and survival interceptions that he's doing, How hard would
those be to eradicate in the upcoming off season, in
the next season. It's hard. It's what I was afraid
of as well. It's why for years I've said they
shouldn't play. I've kind of switched my tune on that. But, um,
he's getting the table reps. He's obviously a valuable experience.
He's done some good things. A lot of it's how

(32:04):
he's going to handle this adversity. But you're absolutely correct.
When you start playing survival mode football, um, you start
seeing things that aren't there. You start expecting bad instead
of expecting good. There's a lot of bad that can.
I always call it the demons. You know, the demons
start very small on your shoulder and usually think about
the good things that can happen. Those demons are trying

(32:24):
to trip at you, but you really can't hear them. Well,
the more bad things that happened to the louder those
demons getting. They get right next to your ear and
they're screaming and yelling at you with all the bad
crap that can happen. Instead of when you're playing your
best stuff, all you're thinking about is the good stuff
that can happen. So too much bad stuff that happens
a quarterbacks at young ages makes those demons bigger, and
then those demons are hard to get rid of as

(32:48):
your career goes on. Great stuff, Trent, thanks much for
joining us. Tell those dogs they can now run rough
shot over your entire house. Thanks for being our guest
on Fox Sports Radio, which they do often. Thanks ndil
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(33:08):
whose premier? Dan Buyer who joins his He has his
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getting you ready to set your fantasy lineup. Dan when
he got in Sports today, a bunch Doug, especially within
the last forty minutes or so. First of all, let's
start with the Steelers. There's a report from ESPN that
they didn't have contact with Levyan Bell. You talked with
Trent Dilfer about it. We Levian Bell sent to tweet yeah,

(33:31):
about thirty eight minutes ago, saying farewell Miami. Now he
spelled farewell wrong, but at least that's what Levian Bell tweeted.
He's got a about a week or so week from
tomorrow to report to the Steelers, otherwise his season would
be lost. Other news from the NFL, Bengals wide receiver A. J.
Green is going to be lost for at least two
games because of a toe injury, but head coach Marvin

(33:52):
Lewis said today that he won't need surgery. The two
game absence for Green reported by Adam Schefter of ESPN. Now,
the Titans of Cowboys play tonight fifteen Eastern Time. The
NFL flex out the Steelers Jaguars game for Sunday Night
in Week eleven and replaced it with the Vikings Bears
matchup in Chicago. Yesterday was a tough day for the Redskins.
Banged up, lost at home to the Falcons, and now

(34:13):
they've lost key pieces guards Brandon Schurf and Sean Laval,
plus wide receiver Paul Richardson all done for the season
with season ending injuries, and the Chargers let go of
kicker Caleb Sturgis and replaced him with practice squad kicker
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Doug Back to you Doug Gotlins show Fox Sports Radio.

(34:56):
It's a big time coach in the NFL coming out
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Got Lip Show, Fox Sports Radio, John's former scout in
the NFL. Pick one quarterback Brady or Rodgers Brady not
even close, not even clothes. I mean, for me, I

(35:17):
why don't hesitate making the decision. I'm not saying that
Roger is not a great all time player, but it's
it's without hesitation. Tom Brady why. I just think he's
a total package. You know, it would be like you
asking me Kobe or Duncan. I wouldn't even flinch, and
I'd take Duncan. I think there's more to the quarterback
than just I mean Rogers, he's the Dan Marino of
my generation or whatever. Now I know he's one, so

(35:38):
he's like a combination of Marino in elway, but there's
just something about Montana that's just most people put him
on a different level from being a teammate from and
Brady is the highest level of just at all. And
I also think that when we talk about him like that,
it almost discounts how great, great of a pocket, how
elite he is as a quarterback. Where Rogers there is

(35:59):
you know, he can get off and do his own thing,
which a lot of times works, but he's not the
easiest guy to deal with it. Again, I like Rogers.
I mean, he's probably top five six quarterback ever. But
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(36:19):
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(36:41):
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you treat you, Dan Buyer, treat us to a game
big game today, Doug is big deal, little deal? No?
All right, it must be a Monday big deal, a
little deal or no deal. At Levyan Bell tweeted farewell

(37:05):
Miami today. Is he has a little over a week
to report to the team. Gotta get off that Miami
weight right, get off, get off, Get off the jet ski,
get under the treadmill. Um. Yeah, I think it's a
big deal. I mean it's we'll dive in on this
at the top of the hour. But Levean Bell has
until the thirteenth report. My guess is he reports somewhere

(37:25):
around the big deal, little deal or no deal that
now retired NFL and coach Bruce Arians told the Kenton
Repository that the Browns job is the only job he'd
retire for in the National Football League he'd retire for.
Retired for? Who said that, Bruce Arians? Yeah? Arians called
the game too, didn't he? Yes, Yeah, that was a

(37:47):
weird one. That, like Bruce Arians using the CBS gig
to openly opine for the job, was weird. I do
think it's a big deal, though I've never seen that
done before, which Lee, We'll believe he really wants the
job and he's probably got a shot at the job.
You guys know, Bob Ross happy painting, the the late
great painter. Bruce Arians sounds exactly like Bob Ross talking

(38:12):
when he's analyzing a game. It's very very similar. Is
a good thing or a bad thing. I don't think
it's great for the NFL. But it's just funny because
it's very subdued. And maybe he doesn't say happy little trees,
but the tone of their voice is very similar. A
big deal, a little deal or no deal? That Las
Vegas had one of their worst weekends ever and Week

(38:33):
nine of the NFL season. In fact, Bravado suffered its
worst single day result in the history of its operation. Um,
I think that's a that's a that's a little deal.
That just means favorites. You're winning people bet un favorites, favorites.
One that's good for that's bad for Vegas, good for
the common better. I was atrocious this past week. Yeah,

(38:54):
big deal, a little deal or no deal? That Less
Miles has been connected to the head coaching vacancy that
is now at Kansas. Did unless Miles come onto this
show going back like two weeks ago and said he
wanted a coach next year? I do believe it Wasn't
he successful when he he was? His first spout with
success was at Mile Motor, Oklahoma State. Right, of course,
he has Midwest ties. Haven't played in Michigan. Former coach

(39:15):
at Colorado, so he knows the Big eight, the Big ten,
Big twelve really really well. Yeah, I think that's a
a little deal considering most people were thinking, I don't understand.
Why are you firing your coach with a couple of
games lafter announcing you won't be back. Jeff Long's new
a athletic director of CANS. I guess he's supposed to
make Hope spring eternal, but I just I don't think
that's the right way to do things. Big deal, a

(39:37):
little deal or no deal. That Alabama quarterback to a
tongue of la is now a one to ten favorite
to win the Heisman Trophy, that's no deal at the
least surprising thing of all time. I do think like
Will Greer was incredible in that West Virginia come back
to be Texas, like the idea that we've already given
it to to Ah. I do Will Greers doing amazing, amazing,

(39:58):
and that last that last touchdown throw against Texas was obscene.
Kyler Murray was second, uh the odds on or the
odds for him second, with it six to one for
Kyler Murray to win the Heisman. Um, how about this
for the NBA Big deal, little deal or no deal.
Their former Rockets assistant Jeff Bezdelic is expected to return
to the team and become their defensive coordinator for the
rest of the season. Uh feels like a big deal

(40:20):
on on both sides. One of the idea that the
Rockets this quick, this shortly into the season have decided
they need to fix their defense already is whoa well,
you guys have been working on the preseason. Um, it's
also a big deal. He had some some family stuff,
is why I think he stepped away and retired. I
like Buzz, he wasn't It wasn't great for the college
when he's at the college game at air Force and

(40:43):
at Colorado and at UH air Force and UH always
at wake Forest. But Buzz a longtime NBA guy in
a really good defensive coach. He couldn't couldn't hurt because
their defense is not good. Finally, Doug, big deal, a
little deal or no deal that Floyd Mayweather is going
to face an un in kickboxer and an mm A
match on New Year's Eve in Tokyo. That's the weirdest

(41:05):
thing I've ever heard. Yeah, I was, I was throwing off.
That's a good way to get your ass kicked up,
or maybe it's a good way to make a bunch
of money. But that is a really, really weird thing.
Is game time on the duck Got Leave show? What's
the kickboxer's name? I saw this press conference, it's it's
on it's on that new streaming network. Um, can you

(41:29):
pronounce his name? No, that's why I left it out
of the story. Appreciate under the bus, Theresa. And he's
an undefeated kick by It's not like some twenty year
old undefeated kickboxer Floyd Mayweather put it on the pole.
Will he fight a bear? At some point? I mean,

(41:50):
he's taken on one of the best mixed martial artists.
Now he's taken on a young and up and coming
an undefeated kickboxer. What's left? Right, he's got a charm,
some snakes. He's got to wrestle a bear? Is there
anything else? Siegfried and Royce Tigers? Maybe maybe do it?
Maybe maybe a mud mud wrestling, maybe mud wrestling somewhere

(42:10):
in Vegas. The Steelers in lebyan Bell have become a
version of Brett Farvin. The Packers. I'll explain next. Fox
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(42:31):
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(42:53):
got blown out last night and said, we're not gonna fire.
Look he should have said for now, but but you
have a meeting with the coach. Somehow that becomes public.
You beat the Blazers, you come back home on Sunday,
thankfully undercover not just of darkness but of Patriots Packers
on NBC, and you get your heads hand to you.

(43:16):
They were down, was ITV at the end of the
first quarter, and it felt worse. It it felt worse. Oh,
I might have failed to mention this. The raptors came
here like, oh, how many Kauai have didn't play a second,
didn't take off the sweats? What oh? So Lebron was

(43:39):
out Nope, he was a full go. So was Javal McGee,
so was you know, pick your Laker. No injuries, they
just got their asses kicked, but it was it's more
to it than that. We'll get to that of coming
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(44:01):
all Hoop, all the time. Getting ready also for this
week as college basketball tip tips off on Wednesday in Indianapolis,
a couple of huge games Brady one and the Patriots
and the Saints one at home. I'm much more of
a buyer in the Saints than I ever have been before.
But let's see what they do against the Bengals, who

(44:23):
won't have a J. Green. If you just listen to
the report from Dan Buyer, A J. Green is gonna
be out a couple of weeks. Who Dat versus Who
Day in the Queen City this weekend. But speaking of
the Bengals division, the Steelers keep winning and they keep
doing so without Levy on Bell. Levan Bell tweeted out

(44:44):
his goodbyes to the city of Miami, where he's been
hanging out and working out and hanging out a little
bit more while holding out instead of signing the free
the franchise tender to get a guarante tea contract pro
rated worth of fourteen million for the for the whole season. Meanwhile,

(45:05):
James Conner, it's been awesome and over a hundred yards
in the ground again yesterday and most importantly another win
for the Steelers. The Steelers end up beating their arch rivals,
the Baltimore Ravens twenty three to sixteen. Connor has a
hundred and seven yards on twenty four carries. David de Castro,

(45:27):
their star guard, said, Honestly, no one cares anymore. Why
would I? I don't want to waste the energy. I
don't have to. I have to block some the best
guys on the best defense in the world. Do you
think I'm gonna worry about a guy who's not here?
Alejandro vill in a wave, remember him, Army Ranger, a

(45:50):
hero guy who got caught embroiled in that controversy. Do
you come out not to come out for the anthem
last year? I love playing with Connor, um he's said
after the win. To Ed Baschett from Pittsburgh Post Gazette,
I don't have anything to say about levy On. I
don't even know what kind of shape he's in. Right now,

(46:11):
this feels like this feels like what happened in Green
Bay with farv And this is the problem with dealing
with younger people who you have to You have to educate,
but not lecture. Right So when I tell you this story,
please don't think I'm lecturing you. But if you you
go back the Packers, they weren't really tired of bread

(46:36):
fire if they were tired of bread five thinking about retirement.
It happened three consecutive years, and the third year he
said he was done and they had moved on, and
they had named Aaron Rodgers the quarterback. And then he
was like, you know what, I kind of miss and
they're like, you know what, We're kind of done here.
And he told them where he wanted to go, and

(46:57):
they told him where he could stick it. And you
wanted to go to the Vikings to play against him,
and they said, that's funny, we send you to the Jets.
And and and look, the Jets thing is seen as
a as a disaster because they didn't make the playoffs,
but the truth is they were nine and three. They
were really good. Then he got hurt. He tore a
muscle in his bicep in his throwing arm. And because

(47:20):
he's bred Farv and he had the streak, he chose
to play through it. And it's a stunning thing here.
But when you have torn muscle in your bicep, you
can't actually throw a football, and that's gonna hurt you
from playing quarterback when you're bred far And so they
fell out of playoff contention. He leaves, eventually goes to
the Vikings, plays against the Packers, beats the Packers in Lambeau,

(47:41):
and then loses in the NFC Championship game, which, by
the way, his last game with the Packers was the
NFC Championship game against the Giants. He throws across his
body terrible interception. Then he retires again, only to have
Chile Children's Uh was his coach at the time with

(48:03):
the Vikings, send three dudes down to Hattiesburg, Mississippi bring
him back. He had some gross Nike cap that looked
like anybody who has a riding lawnmower. You know who
has ever lived in the country has one their favorite hat.
It it what's the picture Ramos from Major League that
had all the pine tar and vassiline and substances. The

(48:27):
one who drank Joe booze rum. How do you not know?
He's come on? Ramos. So many names in that movie, Doug.
This just iconic type names. It's hard to grab one
of them. You're supposed to be our movie guy. You're
supposed to be a movie guy, and you don't know
this one. Come on? Uh? Ed Ed Harris? No? Uh?

(48:48):
Is that that? The name Ed Harris is an actor?
Harris's name, Ed Harris's is an actor? Uh, Eddie, I
want to say, I want for whatever reason, I want
to say Eddie Harris, but it's not. What is his name? Him? Sam?
I actually nailed it and not known I nailed it.
Um he played what was his name in the movie.

(49:11):
Wasn't Roger Dorn, wasn't Jake Taylor, wasn't patro Serrano. It
wasn't was it Eddie Harris? Yeah? And that was like
an Eddie Harris type of hat. He shows up and
here's how bad it went when he tried to run
it back with the Vikings. Not only did he get
hurt and the streak end and they started losing. But
remember the Vikings dome in the Metro Dome actually collapsed

(49:35):
because of so much snow. Anyway, get it to the point.
Got the point is? The point is this feels like
what it felt like with the Packers and far no
one's in Green Bay said Farv sucked. Look, Farv wasn't
as good as he used to be. He couldn't get

(49:56):
loose in super cold weather against the giants, and he
didn't a very well. But the do I return? Do
I compare? And honestly, David de Castra saying it, that's
what we all fail. So what we all felt it
with the Green Bay Just like dude, if you don't know,
then you know, just it's over. And David de Castra like, honestly,

(50:18):
nobody cares anymore. You start asking enough times, where's lebian
Leby gonna be here? Leby? And I could be here,
like dude, I don't know, And at some point I
just I stopped caring. Sorry, my level of I give
a has completely disappeared. And everybody has this at some
point in time in their life, you know, you just

(50:41):
you just have this. At some point in time, somebody
is going to either no show for enough things to
be You're like, I just I'm not gonna beg them
to come over anymore. How many times. Can we invite
you guys over when we have people over to watch
the game, you don't come over, Like fine, at some point,
I just don't care anymore. Or in a relationship, you know,

(51:05):
you have a friend who's in a toxic relationship and
they keep telling you, I'm gonna leave him, I'm gonna
leave him, I'm gonna leave him. At some point like
I just sorry, don't don't care. You're not going to
leave him. You just like the attention of having the
toxic relationship and us talking about and go and us
and you being the martyr, and people going like, you're

(51:26):
so awesome. He's such a jerk, aren't you awesome? She's awesome.
He's a jerk. All men are jerks. Look, if it's
really so bad, leave, We don't care anymore. We just
don't care. A lot of people who said they were

(51:48):
leaving the country two years ago in November, right, I'm
leaving if this happens, I'm leaving. If this happens, I'm leaving.
I am out of here. It happened, you're still here. Sorry,
We just don't care any more. We just gotta keep
moving forward. It doesn't mean we don't we we we
we care sort of about your feelings, but obviously you

(52:09):
don't care enough to see it through. You didn't. It
was an idle threat. So you know you have this
raising kids can do that. You're gonna lose baseball. You're
gonna lose baseball. You're gonna lose baseball. Finally, the care
is like, I don't care, so I I understand what
the I do think the Steelers will be better with

(52:32):
some version of Levy on Bell, although I will tell you,
not playing football this long, it's really hard to get
in football shape that quickly, but to have at some
point in time fresh. The problem with the idea that
he's gonna have fresh legs is when you have a
sped up process and trying to get in shape and
get ready and football is going to be played at

(52:53):
a higher level over time during that time. We talked
about this last week. Guys that lose weight and lose
massive amount of weight, they still have the health problems
of fat people because they're fat for so long. I'm
not saying Levy on Bell's fat. I'm saying the rush
to get into shape and then all of a sudden
you play, you actually lose that advantage of having fresh legs. Anyway,

(53:19):
I think David Castro speaks for all of us. No
one cares anymore. Please don't do Levan watch. He's gonna
show up. You know why, because it's his get out
of jail free card. At the end of the year,
he'll be a free agent. He cost himself millions of
dollars that I believe he will never make back. He

(53:40):
believes he's making a point. He believes he's doing it
for the betterment of his body, for the betterment of
the next contract. We'll see. It's a gamble, And in
any business there's a gamble. When do you invest when
the markets down? The market is on fire? When do
you buy a house when when interest rates are low?
At but maybe at the interest rates are low because

(54:02):
everything stalled out and suddenly things values are gonna trap?
Or do you do you buy now when things are high, believing, Hey,
I got great location, it's always gonna go up. It's
a that's business and he's making a business decision. But
how many weeks of football hop you played more? I

(54:23):
just I gotta not care until I actually see him
on a football field, and even then, my sense of
caring over his financial well being in the future is
minimal at best. Colin Coward joins the show of coming next,
I'll ask him why Lebron isn't killing it with the Lakers.
See who he's gonna blame not named Lebron James. Plus,

(54:43):
we'll ask him if he cares about Levian Fell and Steelers,
if Levian can be the uh the answer to the
Steelers riddle riddle to put them over the top. And
who actually is the best team in Southern California now
that the Rams have shown that they can bleed much
like Drago and Rocky for He's not a machine, he's
a man. That's upcoming next, But first, you know it's

(55:08):
not a smart move. Apparently not a smart move to
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favorites all come through. That's not a smart move. Nope, No,
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So whose fault outside Lebron's? Is it that the Lakers stink?
Because it couldn't possibly be Lebron's fault? Huh, Well, I

(57:18):
don't even know if it's a blame thing. I mean,
brandon ingram As as you told me the other day,
is the great tease um kind of what's happening. We
knew would happen. We knew we thought they would beat
the crappy teams Phoenix Dallas. They did. We thought they
were not going to beat top seeds, throw all bloom out,
and we thought they'd be competitive against you know, your

(57:41):
San Antonio Portland's um. And that's kind of what they are.
They start going three since then or four and three.
I kind of think this is gonna be okay. The
good news for him, Houston's a mess, Utah struggling. The
West is wide open outside of Golden State. So I
don't think it's man reboard. I jeez. I mean Bosh

(58:02):
Wade and Lebron struggle for two months in the crappy East,
which was really bad years ago. It's pretty it's getting
better now, so I kind of think we're at where
we thought we would be. Um. I again, I'm not
gonna disagree with you in terms of some of the results,
but it was the way, and it was the lack
of energy, and I can't think of a game in

(58:26):
which tip to finish heat dominate. You're like man, Lebron James.
He's had moments. He's had moments where he's had a
quarter here and a quarter there where he's put together
a series of plays and he's he made some and
he's made some really good plays. But I think that's
maybe the most alarming thing is we go from last

(58:46):
year arguing whether or not he's the best player in
the league two he hasn't been dominant in one tip
to finish in one game this year yet Colin, No,
it is interesting when he used to be. You know,
I always say this to friends basketball. You can tell
very quickly who can play like guys who are great players.

(59:07):
I can spot Steph Curryer Durant. I can just turn
the TV on boogoo. Lebron has always been he just
jumps out of a TV. And I've used this. I
think I may have learned it from you or somebody else.
As good as Andrew Wiggins was, I went to watch
him four times live and I couldn't tell you this
on the floor. So a lot of guys will get
eighteen points and you can't tell them on the floor.

(59:28):
The other night, I'm watching the Lakers and I'm like,
is Lebron on the floor? And he was so I
think some of that is he was so bald dominant
in Cleveland. Find the ball. There's Lebron. He looks so
big and powerful. I think he came in thinner this year.
I think there's some confusion on who should always have
the ball. He's trying to be a good teammate, and

(59:50):
I think the solution to this is probably give Lebron
the ball and just let it run. Think I kind
of I kind of think you're right again. But then
then he goes back to what others said and I disputed,
which was, well, you don't have to have all these
shooters around him, but like, we gotta have shooters around
him because Lebron wants the ball and wants the lane
all spread out. And so you had the problem with

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with some of there, with Rondo, with Alonzo, with UH,
with Lance, with Javel, You've got guys whose men will
be in the way. Well yeah, I mean it's like
Chris Blusardo says, your game is your game, this idea
that you know, Lebron is gonna go to l A
and he's really going to transform things in the sixteenth year. Listen,

(01:00:31):
I saw Michael Jordan play at the end of his
career Washington last year. I got really good seats from
a friend of mine in Portland and UH and Jordan
had a great game and it was like even his
last time in Portland's Michael thought he was the best
player on the floor. Couldn't jump, but his game was
his game. He he wasn't his vertical, but he was

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still selfish to almost you know, he could get away
with it. But like Michael was the greatest player of
all times? When did it will ever really changed? He
just eroded. So this idea that Lebron is gonna you know,
he's gonna flex into something else. He's a ball dominant player.
That's what he is. And that's okay. I mean, Ben

(01:01:14):
Simmons will never be a shooter first and Lebraun will
never be off ball. I'm okay with that. Calling Cawhard
john Us, Doug gottlip show here on Fox Sports Radio.
I felt like last night, and look, I'm not gonna
sit here and tell you that was vintage Jaron Rodgers
or vintage Tom Brady. Um, Roger still doesn't seem to
get along with who's ever calling, you know, with Mike

(01:01:35):
McCarthy now calling plays right that that's like that's like
the least obvious bad relationship ever. Um. But then you know,
Brady doesn't have Gronk, he doesn't have Sonny Michelle, and
he's just kind of trying to put things together. But
like last night was a perfect example of why it's
so hard to have this debate. Like I thought Rogers
was a little bit better than Brady for most of
the game. Um, but Brady's team ends up winning some

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because Rodgers team spits up all over themselves and it's
really hard to argue against winning because that's what it's
supposed to all be about. But we have this like
greatest of all time discussion and then you see them
both play and one is a little bit better, but
neither neither is is great. And I don't think we
gained a ton from last night? Did we? Not? Really? Um?

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And I was saying today, if I left the country
and went to New Zealand for a decade and did
not watch football in the last ten years, and the
last game I watched before I went to New Zealand
was the Patriots winning a Super Bowl, and then I
came back in ten years and you gave me a
table last night, I would have said, that looks like
the game I saw ten years ago, outside of the

(01:02:41):
Randy Moss games where they got really vertical. New England's
even their trick play last night, like late third early
fourth game type needs something different. I mean, it's just
they are and I don't I don't buy a system.
I think Tom's the syst them, but they just are

(01:03:02):
more efficient. They're virtually always great in the fourth corp
always and you know, I look at him, I don't
think less of Green Bay, I don't think more of
New England. I thought last night, if you take out
Randy Moss, look like every big Sunday night football in
for Foxborrow Win in the last ten years, they all

(01:03:24):
looked almost the exact same. I know you're down on
the Gruden thing, but Gruden and Sean Payton are really
really close. And you look at how the Saints have
been rebuilt, most of it through the draft, through young, athletic,
cheap defensive players. And that's what the Saints have done, right,
I mean, and and and then they get go and

(01:03:45):
get you know, a great hybrid back who can run
it and can catch it, and they have a good
quarterback and Drew Brees. I kind of feel like, I
know you're out on Gruden because he had such a
bizarre draft and because they're so terrible, But with all
that cast base and five first on picks, I actually
think it would be hard to screw it up. Then
it would be to fix it in Okland. Well, the

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difference is Sean Payton has Mickey Loomis, who's a very
good personnel guy. A couple of years ago he went
like eight for eight in the draft. If Groom had
a track record of personal personnel excellence, I wouldn't be
out on it. My thing is, John, when you were
in Tampa. Dave wants That had a stat yesterday and

(01:04:26):
he said of the sixty one draft picks he had
in Tampa, three were Pro bowlers. If this guy had
a track record, I'd be like, I'm all in um.
But you know, like Chris battled in two years, man,
he hasn't. He hasn't missed h much in Indianapolis, so
you can there's a lot of Darius. You know, he

(01:04:47):
gets this Darious Leonard linebacker and you're like, hell, he
could be a pro bowler. You know, the Quentin Nelson kids.
Great the So if if I thought he had a
Chris Ballard or a Mickey Loomis, I don't think the
plans bad. But you know, it's like it's almost like
a lottery winner. Money doesn't solve poor unless you know
what to do with the month. Draft picks don't solve

(01:05:09):
anything unless you're a great personnel guy. So if John
could trust somebody, then I think it would be great.
But right now, you know the stories I read Gluten
has his own circle of scouts. Reggie mackenzie has the
team scouts that just feels like with with with to me,
who's the best team in l A? I think the best.

(01:05:35):
I you know, Chargers have more components that win a
Super Bowl. Great edge, rushers, quarterback, power runner, lockdown corner.
The Rams have more deficiencies than the Chargers, but where

(01:05:56):
they're good left tackle, running back, defensive interior, they're really good.
But if you take out kickers, I think the Chargers
have the best talent in the league. I really do
like to win a Super Bowl. If I said great
running back, great and rushers, good left tackle, all pro center, quarterback.

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By the way, is there a team in the league
with better receivers and the Chargers? I don't think so.
And they might. They might get Hunter Henry back in.
And they're going to get Joey Bosa Bak either this
week or next. He's their best defensive player, one of
the best defensive players in the league. I'm now, look,
the kicking game makes me, but I do feel like

(01:06:39):
we had trend dilferan. I know you have Trend del
front as well, and he said, like, look, once you
get a like Wade Phillips defense, Like you kind of
get a book on it and you can you can
score against it. Look at what the Saints were able
to do. Like Wade Phillips, defense sometimes gets worse as
the season goes on, whereas the Chargers feel like they're
getting better and more confident. Granted for the most part
doing against nonplay of teams, and they've been beaten by

(01:07:02):
by playoff teams so far this year. Um, but but
I'm with you, I'm not I'm not sure if they
don't serve the if they can fix the kicking game,
if they're not the actual better team. Yeah, I mean
I think they're. They don't have holes outside a kicker,
whereas you know the ransom of a pass rush, and
they and their linebackers are marginal in space. Um, I mean,

(01:07:22):
let's be honest about it. That Dante Fowler I didn't
like that move. Not a good locker room guy, been
an underachiever out of Florida. Gave up two draft picks.
He got Marcus Peters yesterday, who appeared to be ad
libbing in the secondary. It got it had a terrible
game in DOMINICANSU has always been every source I've ever
had this said he's a freelancer. Well that's what Dante

(01:07:44):
Fwer is. And he gets that home run tackle yesterday,
so it looks great. But he's a guy that will
move out of his lane. Not a coachable I mean
in this practice. He missed a practice in London. Because
you go overseas with football teams, you know you probably
a short but the three practices you have, so I
didn't love that move. And I kind of feel like

(01:08:06):
the Chargers feel less of a burden to win this
year like the Rams kind of. It kind of feels
like the Rams are like, Okay, what's gonna retire? Uh,
you know we're gonna have to pay golf. We gotta
get this thing done now. Were the Charger You're just
accumulating really good players, no sense of panic, and I
don't think they have a real weakness. I had to

(01:08:27):
kick her on the roster tend. I tend to agree
with you. Um, all right, what do we expect from
the Cowboys? They adda Marii Cooper, they play on Monday
Night football. It seems like in Redskins on a view
saw Redskins have you know, announced three more players out
for the year with injuries. This division is open for
the taking the cow Is this what the Cowboys need?

(01:08:47):
They needed a top wide receiver. Maybe he's not Dez
in his prime. He might not even be a Marie
Cooper and his prime, but he's good enough to change
things for the Cowboys. Well, you can't run on Tennessee.
They haven't allowed to back O Brady five yards. So
we're gonna see a Mari Cooper. I mean the film
off a bye. They're trying to incorporate a Mari into
the offense anyway. And you can't run on Tennethy. You

(01:09:07):
just can't. And they make the game. Every Tennessee game
looks the same. They're all like nineteen seventeen. They're awful,
So I'm excited to watch it. The other thing, Doug
cold Beans is a really nice slot. You know, they've
got some components. They've got a great left tackle, a
great running back, a great slot, this gallop kid from
Colorado State. Like every week you're like, oh, he's a

(01:09:28):
little better. You know, in about three weeks they have
to win tonight because their schedule gets tougher. They don't
need a Mari to make a ton of catches. Four
to five a game seven targets. Don't be surprised if
Gallop doesn't really emerge late as their home run threat
and a Mari does more slot stuff because Mari is
really effective in that role. Um. That, and I think

(01:09:51):
what we'll see tonight as a team that has to
throw and will throw a lot in Dallas. UM, quickly
your thoughts on Levy on Bell who to tweeted out
goodbyes or instagram down goodbyes to Miami, And yet David
Castro is like, I don't really care anymore. Um, what
type of impact do you think you'll have when he
comes back and plays. It's hard for me to believe
that an eight Cats, two and fifty Kerry guy wouldn't

(01:10:13):
have an impact. Um, you know it's I like Lavan Bell.
I would never man, I don't know if I was
his agent. He just left seven point seven million on
the table. I could never instruct my athlete as an
agent to do that. Um. I don't think he's long
for Pittsburgh, But I do think there are teams like
the Jets that the general manager is gonna get fired

(01:10:35):
if they don't get Sam Donald help. Lady in Bell's
got a place in this league. But I would ask
you this done when you have a star expensive quarterback,
Rogers Brady, you know all the guys we know about Cam,
the big money guys, right Russell Wilson, If you can't
really spend money on a running back to that's too
much money, like Goff and Girly works now, but when

(01:10:57):
Goss's making what Girly's making, They're gonna have real issues.
And so you know, I kind of feel like when
I look at if I'm paying Ben Matt, can I
pay my running back large year? Oh no, no, no, no,
he's everybody thinks he's everybody knows he's gone. I don't
know what his real value will be on the open market.
My question is, can you go from not playing, not

(01:11:18):
having camp to playing in mid to late season football
and then, you know what, what percentage of the carries
do you give him? Considering Connor has been really good now, look,
he could be. It could be great for James Connor,
who I'm sure is beaten up by taking the bulk
of the carries for the first time ever in the NFL.
But I do wonder what percentage of the real levy

(01:11:39):
on Bell will even see which to me, is like,
it's one thing to bet on yourself, but putting yourself
in a situation where you're more likely to look like
a lesser version of yourself is a bad plan. From
Levy on to begin with, well, he thought, the one
thing I like about Bell is he's a good receiver,
so I think he'll make money on the market. Listen,

(01:11:59):
desperate ration. I mean I say this all the time.
It's the cliche this league is all about general managers
who have two daughters in private school, wanting to keep
their kids in private school. That a general manager like
the Jets is getting killed this morning. And he's like, Okay,
I just moved to New York. I moved my family
and a football you know, vagabond. All these gms and
these coaches move around. You're trying to keep your job.

(01:12:22):
And it's like, at some point, he's an eighty catch,
two hundred carry guy. There's a by the way, the
Arizona GM. I mean, come on, I mean he hired Wilkes.
What if it doesn't work, how do you say, you're
John Rosan's gotta work. I think he's going to find
a spot in this league. He's too productive and there's
too much desperation. There's too many gms that have to

(01:12:42):
make something happen. I just don't think it's in Pittsburgh.
Who's the next coach SC I think they'll call del Rio.
I think they'll interview del Rio. I don't think he
would be a bad choice. If it was up to me,
I'd give it to Jet Fish. Um. Nobody knew who

(01:13:04):
Sean Payton and Sean McVeigh and Matt Maggie were before
they got hired. Young, innovative college and pro close to
Belichick and Pete Carroll u U U c l A
was number three in the country when he offensively when
he had rosen um. He recruited J. T. Daniels. Uh,
he's with the Lambs the last two years. Very smart guy. Um.
I think you have to go offense. UM between Lebron,

(01:13:28):
the Dodgers excellence and the Rams and Chargers. USC football
is disappearing and you got to get some flare into
this program and they're boring. I agree, but they also
y also need players like you know. I think there
is a recruiting element to it where I don't like.

(01:13:48):
I don't think coach O was the right guy. He
might be the right guy at LSU where he can
be the figurehead and the recruiter and you can bring
in coordinators. But I mean, like one of the big
reasons you and I talk to NFL guys, they're like, look,
you go to sc and they used to have pros
on both blinds and they might have one now, and
that as much as they have an eighteen year old

(01:14:09):
quarterback and they looked as functional in terms of what
they're running and how they're doing it, they just don't
have as good as players they used to have in
comparison to the rest of the world. Well, and also,
the Pack twelves in a weird spot. You know, the
economy has been so good with tech Denver West. Is
that the people you know, I mean, think about it, Doug.
We have posted you're really wait wait, you're really going

(01:14:30):
to go The economy is the reason the Pack twelve
is down. Well here's my thing, Okay, well hold on,
I want to take a breath. I want to listen,
go go. Okay. I don't think college football has ever
meant less than it means now. The West Coast is exploding.
L A now is a pro football town, so it

(01:14:51):
has limited USC. The Pac twelve is always limited unless
USC's winning. UM U c l A. You know they're
gonna try Pete Carroll, But again, they're an academic powerhouse.
You know. I kind of look at what is happening
in the world. Our economy on the West is so
longs and the economy is good everywhere the West is absurd.

(01:15:12):
I mean San Francisco, Los Angeles, Seattle, Amazon, people have options.
They're not as inclined to care about college sports. They
do less sports, but deeper. And let me ask you.
You you're from l A as USC, It's it's college basketball.
U c l A basketball doesn't matter all you see.
The basketball doesn't matter at all. It doesn't matter. But but

(01:15:33):
but but but there that you're talking about fans support
and how many people still show up. It's still big. Actually,
USC football is still huge, huge fan base, way bigger
than the Rams, way bigger than the Chargers. It just
is now. The Lakers do change some things, but there's
plenty of space for seven home games for USC. I
think there's less this could give give credence. There's less

(01:15:57):
participation in high school football then there used to be.
So there's whereas you know, they just used to be
a well spring of talent, whereas in the South and
in Texas they still have big, big, big numbers. But
there's still plenty of players. They're just not getting them
to stay here. And I guess maybe you're saying they're
not getting them to stay here because key people, the
fan fans, don't care as much. Is that? Is that

(01:16:19):
the Yeah? I mean, I'm just I I look at
what's happening in this country, and I look at the
West Coast, of which I my whole life, I've either
lived here or wanted to live here. And between tech,
there's more money, there's more options. We now have two
soccer teams, two NFL teams in Los Angeles, and the
Pact twelve's always been as valuable as USC between Lebron

(01:16:43):
the Dodgers, the Rams, the Chargers, the soccer teams, the economy.
USC football does usccare is it? Pressing doesn't matter. I
don't sense that USC football, I mean U C l
A Basketball has disappeared, and I look at USC football
and I'm like, okay, if they won nine games a year,
I mean, I don't know. I mean, I'm maybe I'm grafting.

(01:17:04):
It's just there are so many things happening in Los Angeles,
There's so many things happening out West. There's so many options,
and I just feels like college sports Denver, West are shrinking.
Outside of Gonzaga basketball. Name a city in the West,
maybe two songs, We're college sports truly affect the community.

(01:17:30):
I don't feel it. No Seattle, if if Seattle, if
if they were if they were good, if they were good,
I think it would, But no, looks soccer has become
big there and the Seahawks are big. But Seattle, if
they had if their hoops team, it becomes legitimate with
Mike Hopkins because they have no sonics or do you
explain it to you? Tell me, because I've thought about

(01:17:51):
this before with my friends. I talked about about USC
and I'm like, listen, man, it's just in l a
Pete Carroll. You know, here's the other thing. When Pete
Carroll was at USC, you have eight conference games and
you didn't have a semifinal. Now you have an extra
potential road game. You have to play in conference. Then

(01:18:12):
if you're good, you'll open with Clemson. Then you'd have
to get to an Alabama plus plus you have to
plus you have to play the PacTel Championship game as well,
so even more. No, I look, it's it's prohibitibly more
more difficult. Um and I do think that people care
less and there's less participation. But there's plenty of players
and plenty of people care about USC football. They're just

(01:18:32):
not I I honestly think the biggest thing is all
the coaching turnover. It's hard to estep. Recruiting is about
relationships and being somewhere a while and digging in and
recruiting guys. You can't you recruit guys as eighth graders
and freshmen, and and if a different staff is there
when he's a junior and a senior, there's a disconnect.
And you look at the Pac twelve and all the
turnover they've had. I think that's as big a cause

(01:18:53):
as I think. Hey, dude, I gotta go. I will
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(01:20:00):
as seen reports that John Harbaugh is on the hot seat.
It would be a mistake if they moved on from Hardball.
I believe Hardball is a good coach. I believe he's
also a leader of men. Well, why is that important?
In the NFL. It's very important. It's very important that
you can manage the personalities that you're going to have,
and there's no avoiding the personalities. New England they got

(01:20:20):
personalities too, but they put them personalities on the back
burner because they know that Bill Belichick if they fire him,
that Cleveland Brown should be the first team to call.
Now imagine hardball. He's got a quarterback. I believe with
the Dorsey the general manager, that they would be able
to get this team to playoff type of team in

(01:20:41):
the very with that defense that they have. So Baltimore,
slow down. You've got a lot going on with Ozzy K. Newsome.
Keep the coach that you do have because there's no
guarantee that you will get better. Huh. It's a I
don't think you've fired John Harbaugh for fear of not
being able to replace. On hardball, they should have made

(01:21:01):
the playoffs last year. They did not. The defense is
pretty good, although I think Jimmy Smith was in a
concussion protocol yesterday that hurt them late. And obviously Joe
Flacco has been um. I don't even think you'd say
he's up and down. He's kind of been the same guy.
He's just okay for a long time. And Ozzie Newsom
has missed on several draft picks over the past couple

(01:21:22):
of years. As good a general manager as he is,
many that he's missed a punt. And I think if
you look at it fairly, you say, hey, if Justin
Tucker makes an extra point, they go to overtime with
the Saints. Um, they've had several other winnable games that
they have lost. They're competitive. But this goes back to
the Mike McCarthy. This goes back to the any of

(01:21:45):
these discussions about long tenured coaches. It's no different than
your job. In my job. Sometimes jobs sometimes they run
their course. Not everybody has to be a lifer at
a job. And when you've been at a place a decade,
you can move on. You can find other guys that go.
Now you better have a good sense of who fits
in your locker room. But this this idea, that way,

(01:22:06):
you can't fire him because he's a really good coach
and leader of men. Look, at some point, even really
good leaders have been we we we we turn our
off off Channel two. We just do. It's like we
have collective male hearing aids where we just stop listening.
You know, it happens in college sports. Tubby Smith was

(01:22:26):
a Kentucky he'd been there a decade. It was time,
it was over. It was time, you know. Um So
I'm gonna disagree with Chris even if I agree with
him that he's a pretty good coach and they're a
pretty good team and there's still very much a viable
playoff threat. I don't think. I don't think even if

(01:22:46):
he gets gobbled up by the Browns or another team,
because he gets fired means that the Ravens shouldn't have
fired him, because I think relationships sometimes, or especially business relationships,
they've run their course. Take it from a guy who's
left other places Fox, like, not everybody is meant to
work at the same place for you know. I know
people have worked in sales at NBC and c B,

(01:23:10):
and they know the culture of all of them, and
maybe sometimes you ever regret over leaving one of them.
But sometimes you're like, all right, this job is done.
We go on to the next. The Patriots do, in
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happy to be with you, dude, Do Do Do Do Alabama?

(01:23:59):
Good l A you not as good? How that girl
who uh the jib camera cut at the L s
U game? She was not having it, not having it
at all. Man, that was great. I hope you had
a great, great weekend. I'll tell you I did um
coach little flag football on Friday. My offense, what we

(01:24:22):
do is we have there's two coaches. I call the
plays the first and third quarter. He calls play second
and fourth and the ball did move better and quicker
to set first and third quarter, and so much so
that he was like, what are you doing there? And
I was like, you know, pretty kind of kind of simple.
Got what we're doing. Read, read what they're in. They

(01:24:45):
got too high safety. Everybody plays zone. You can't cover
my little dude. Man to man, it plays ooh, it
plays zone, all right, they got two safeties high. Then
we run three guy. We run somebody up the middle
on like a on a deep post. And then the
same side of the field we'll run somebody on a
go route and we'll look off the safety. I want
you look to the middle of I tell my quarterback

(01:25:05):
looked to the middle of the field. They'll sneak into
the middle and then throw it out to throw throw
it to the throw to the boundary. If they put
three safeties, everything's in the middle crossing route city, especially
my little dude, catch and stop from running it anyway.
So much fun. And then I had a dinner. I
don't know if you've ever done this, holds Lucas now

(01:25:26):
he's six a week so we did after football, we
did um like a dude's night. We went and got
frozen yogurt and we started talking about a bunch of things. Um.
My son didn't know you could buy guns in the
country because he went by a gun store. So I

(01:25:47):
started to explain to him the Second Amendment, the right
to bear arms, and he had forgotten that. He hadn't
said the Constitution yet. Um. And then we started talking
about dating girl goals and things you need to remember
when you date girls. John, one of the key elements,

(01:26:07):
right one, is that you open the door for the
girl too. You pay. You should pay for the girl.
I gotta teach chivalry, right, you you pull out her chair,
don't pull out the chair so she falls down, pull
out her chair for the table and then tuck it
underneath her. And then you walk around and you sit down.

(01:26:27):
You offer to pay if any of the best you
do is you split at best um. And then I said,
now here's here's a couple other things, like whatever you do,
don't talk about other girls with the girl, right, That's
that's good advice. And then he asked me what happens

(01:26:48):
if he has to break wind? He's nine, And I said, look,
you gotta still be you, right, but you gotta be
polite about being you. So if you really really have to,
you should probably get up and go to the restroom.
But if it happens or you burp after eating, or
you're laughing and you snort or something like that, just
excuse me anyway. One of those all time great dad nights,

(01:27:12):
it's the Doug Gottlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Here's Aaron Rodgers last night after lost. The Patriots have
the consistency, you know, we're just we're not hitting on
all cylinders, you know, we're hurting ourselves and neat of
yours plays and miss throws and um turnovers at the
wrong time, and not being on same page whether I'm

(01:27:33):
missing a throw or we're not in the spot I
think we're gonna be at. It's happening in the in
the in the worst times, you know, when we have
to play our best, in those crunch times, we haven't
been playing our best. It's completely understandable, right that. That's
I've seen it too. The beauty to the Patriots is
that they start at one place and generally get better.

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I've heard people say, well, they don't have as Tom
Brady is the system, you don't have a system. The
truth is they have a system. They are pragmatic, they
are malleable. They change their scheme and their system to
fit the personnel of the year or of the week
and the team in which they're playing. That that that,

(01:28:20):
that's really it. I watched and I thought, look, I
didn't think Brady was great, and I didn't think um,
I didn't think that that Aaron Rodgers was great either,
But I thought you could see there are throws that
Rogers makes that Brady doesn't make, and yet Brady's team
finds a way to win. His guys seem to be

(01:28:42):
open more often, there are more opportunities where he has
a chance to plant his feet and like a blind
man can see that a couple of those throws that
he's made, he would make um he being Rogers, would
be made better if he had time just plant his
feet and throwed to an and wide receiver. And I

(01:29:03):
think part of it is what the Green Bay Packers
run a system, run an offense, and then they go
freelance with Aaron Rodgers, whereas Tom Brady. They run an offense,
but it's maaluable to the defense in which they're playing against,
and it had to be. They didn't have Grounk, they
didn't have Sonny Michelle. And while neither appeared like look

(01:29:25):
too much, better offenses were with the Rams and the
Saints that a game that led up to that game,
so neither appeared to be two elite teams, or maybe
even two elite quarterbacks. We've seen them enough to know
how good they can be. And I don't know I
would guess that you'd say, I kind of think Roger
is a little bit better, a little bit more talented,
and then Brady's team wins. That's really the goat quarterback

(01:29:47):
debate in a nutshell, even if that wasn't the best
of either of them. Is that fair? That's fair? You know,
playing the Patriots is like playing your dad and one
on one, or when my son plays me in one
on one. Eventually, I was telling him we went so yesterday.

(01:30:09):
There's a true story. Okay, I'm I'm revealing details I
probably shouldn't reveal. Thankfully, I recorded all the games. Do
what to do? I go through and I record all
the games before the day starts, so if I want
to go back and see somebody see something. And at
like three o'clock in my neighborhood, the power goes out.
So I didn't actually see Live Rams most of Ram Saints,

(01:30:30):
and I didn't see the first half of Patriots Green Bay.
I went back and watched both of them. So, pow
was something wrong with the power grid. Power goes out.
So we go and we My son plays tennis as well,
so we hit tennis balls, and so I said, hey, dude,
you know, I'll bet in a year you'll be able
to beat me. He's like, so I'll beat you in

(01:30:52):
a year. I said, no, you're not gonna beat me
for five or ten more years. He's like why, Like,
because I'll know how to win. He's like, yeah, but
you said i'll be better than you. You will, I'll
still know how to win. It'll be the same in basketball.
It's the same with probably you and your dad. It's
poker players know this, right, Like the best poker players

(01:31:13):
usually don't even have the best cards. They just know
how to win. And that's the Patriots that they're that
annoying dad or that annoying vet at the park that
can't jump anymore, can't move, kind of has a funny
looking shot, and yet you they're like, that's game. Wait,

(01:31:34):
we just got beat. We're done. We gotta go sit again. Yep,
they beat you. How'd that happen? They just found a way.
They found your weakness and attacked it. They found your
strength and took it away from you. That's the Patriots.
And it sounds so easy, but apparently really really hard

(01:31:56):
to establish that as a style and to do it
as consistently of the Patriots have done it. So why
they call it the Patriot way. It's not a magical,
mystical formula. It's one that employs pragmatism. Pragmatism, Are we
a three or four team or a four three team.
The Patriots answer has always been yes. And in a nutshell,

(01:32:25):
you have Tom Brady who appears to be kind of
enjoying the process of being really good on a very
average talented team, as opposed to Aaron Rodgers, who appears
to be ticked off about being really good on an
above average talent team but one that can't seem to

(01:32:47):
get right. There's it's always something and look he threw
himself some under the bus because he knew a couple
of those throws were bad. But a couple of times
guys weren't where they're supposed to be, and then they
had the big bumble, then had the big bubb Michael
Lombardi is a former general manager who worked with Bill
Belichick and the Paths. I'll get his insight and how
how are they so pragmatic and yet so good? Everyone

(01:33:11):
else seems to have a style and sticks with it,
as opposed to the Patriots who adapt week to week
or even uh down to down. How's that happen? We'll
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Do you guys see what happened at the end of
the Broncos game? McManus the line up for a sixty
two yard field goal twenty three seconds left. Texans? Uh

(01:33:56):
see me? Um sorry? He McManus line up for fifty
one yard field goal. But what people missed is end
of the first half. End of the first half, Broncos
had the ball twenty three seconds left. They tried a
sixty two yarder. So that's from the other side right,
like the forty eight yard line. That's a long way.

(01:34:16):
They're like, well, you know, you take a shot, but
with twenty three seconds two things can go wrong. If
you miss one, if you missed short, then catch it
and run it back. We saw that with the kicks
six Alabama Auburn to have another place as well, or
you miss it and it's in altitude, you miss it,
as they did. Well, now the Texans get the ball.

(01:34:38):
They were only up thirteen to ten at the time.
They had two time outs, so they took a forty
six yard field goal. It took a sixteen to ten lead.
Then at the end of the game, um, it was
who is the Emmanuel Sanders had that eighteen yard reception right,
and then there's a five yard pass play with already

(01:35:00):
says forty seconds left. So Lebroncos hand the ball off
to Philip Lindsay who just tried to center the ball
to get like what they want. The thirty five yard
line was their target. They end up at the thirty six.
He kicks a fifty one yarder. Now I understand that
it's Denver. Understand that's Denver. So a sixty fifty one

(01:35:22):
yarder in Denver is a forty five maybe even forty
one yarder. But McManus's numbers from like fifty plus he's
been it's basically a fifty fifty shot, whereas inside of
fifty it's like a seventy five seventy six percent shot.
Now I've I started with the premise advanced Joe at

(01:35:45):
the start of the year that Vans Joseph should have
been fired because they thought about firing him at the
end of last year. They're probably gonna fire them at
the end of this year. But that just just gross
mismanagement of it. But the bigger thing is how much
luckier can the Texans get. The Texans were going to
tie the Colts, it was going to happen. They were

(01:36:10):
oh and three. They're on the road, they're playing the
Indianapolis Colts, the culture at their own forty three yard
line with like ten sec with ten seconds ago or
so in the game, maybe a little bit less, a
little little bit more, okay um, And instead of punting
the ball admitting and we're gonna tie, they go for it.

(01:36:32):
Don't get it. On the very next play, the Texans
line up kick a field goal, win the game. That's
Hi number one that got him off the proverbial schneid
to being oh three and one. Then they return home
take on the Dallas Cowboys. The Cowboys have the ball
on the Houston forty three in overtime in a dome,

(01:36:59):
and instead of kicking a field goal where everybody in
the league kicks a field goal lenty three yard line, indoors,
did it or go for it? They did neither. Instead
they punted. Uh, they get one big completion, kick a
field goal, win the game. And now against the Broncos

(01:37:21):
team that is not very good, the Broncos gift him
three points at the end of the first half. They
try a sixty two yard field goal with twenty three
seconds left, which puts them right in the field goal range.
And then you're fifty yard. You got a fifty yard
or and you got plenty of time for one more place.

(01:37:42):
Just have case Keenum line line up, drop back and
run a quarterback draw. What was the worst thing that
could happen? Like, now we're good, let's line it up
for a fifty one yard Or the Texans in two
thousand eighteen remind me of the Raiders in two thousand
and six. If you go back and watch the Raiders
in two thousand and six, remember they went forward on

(01:38:03):
the two thousand and sixteen sorry, they beat New Orleans
first week of the season. They went for two like
four times, got it on fourth down a bunch of times.
Go back and look at that team. Beat Tampa and
overtime beat Houston that was beaten up by injury by seven.
They beat the the then San Diego Chargers by three
in a miracle win. They had miracle after miracle and

(01:38:25):
then of course their quarterback got Derek Carr got hurt
and they fell apart in the playoffs. But one of
the things that John Gruden is exposed is that team
wasn't as good as the record, neither as Houston. But
Houston has just found away with the help of some
just bizarre coaching decisions from the Colts, the Cowboys and
now the Broncos. Let's get to Michael Lombardi, who, of

(01:38:46):
course the former general manager in the league in the
NFL and UH has a fabulous new book out which
I encourage everybody to go out and by and by
for a friend. It's called Gridiron Genius, a master class
and winning championships and building dinas these in the National
Football League. Michael, some of this stuff is about being
lucky as much as being good. But man or the
Houston Texans really lucky with some of the bizarre decisions

(01:39:09):
that opposing coaches are making. You know, I heard your
whole part about about what Vance Joseph did. Obviously they've
never practiced the end of the half. Do they realize
the end of the half controls most of the wins
and losses in the NFL. But the fact that I
thought you'd left out Houston had a time out. So
when he attempted that sixty one yard they had two
time out. Michael, Michael, they had they had two time outs.

(01:39:29):
If I left that out, they had two time outs.
They had two timeouts left. So it's like, Okay. What
people don't understand is, however much time's left is insignificant.
Always divide six into the amount of time left. So
I think there was twenty three seconds when he kicked
the field goal. That's a chance you can get at
least four more plays. So do I try the sixty

(01:39:52):
two yard and if I miss, it's a turnover, which
I wrote about in my book. Nobody wants to talk
about miss field goals as turnovers, but to turnover it's
and then they have four planes to move the ball
with two timeouts. That doesn't make any sense at all
when you push it like that. But if you would
try a fifty one yard or why not, and then
the end of the game was just to me, was

(01:40:14):
coaching mal practice. I mean, the idea is not to
get into field goal range. The idea is to get
into make a bal field goal range. That's that's like.
Now I'm putting it on on Brandon McManus. Okay, he
should make a fifty one yard he made a forty
four yard earlier in the game. Let's get ten more yards,
let's get twenty more yards. We can boar burner time out,

(01:40:36):
we can make it happen. But clearly, when you watch
them exchange thirty seconds for five yards, you could tell
the Broncos have never practiced that situation. Doug gotlive show
here on Fox Sports Radio. Um, what's your what's your
biggest takeaway from the Saints ability to beat the Rams yesterday? Well?

(01:40:57):
I think this. I think if you go back through
the Shama based in the head coach of the Los
Angeles Rams, anytime talk Gurley doesn't touch the ball seventeen
times or more, the Rams are five and six in
those games. They are undefeated when he touches at eighteen
times or more. By them getting the big lead, they
took the ball out of girly hands and put it
in golf's hands, and golf did well. I'm not at
disputing that, but girl is the straw that stirs that drink.

(01:41:19):
Girly only touched the ball thirteen times. When the Rams
lose their identity in terms of their run game, their
play action pass game, and only things they do, that's
when things start to fall apart five and six in
that situation. Undefeated the other way, I think this is
gonna be a little bit like Fraser Ali. There's gonna
be a rematch. Who knows how it's gonna go. But
when you break it down the end of the half,

(01:41:39):
the Saints got the interception, got the points. The Rams
try to go for the sake field goal. If they
just take the three points, they're all things matter. I
think you have to play that game a little differently
if you're Sean McVeigh. Yeah, I do think the fact
that how did Hecker not get the first down? I
mean maybe my eyes are off or America's eyes are off,
and I get it. It's really closed your indoors. You've

(01:42:01):
got a great kicker. Take to three points and and
and fight and live to fight another day. But it
did feel like that spot might have changed the entire game. Yeah,
I thought, you know. I mean, look, I'm I don't
have my plumbing tool out and I couldn't eye it
up with my thing. I wasn't you know doing that.
But to me, I think when you gain a possession
and you don't get points, you've lost it. And they

(01:42:25):
gained that possession with the turnover and didn't get any points,
so they essentially turned it back over. That's critical. And
when you're playing the Z A B. A style of
games in the NFL where every team, where teams can score,
the Saints were just so good. And look, let's face it.
I think what's been exposed is that Marcus Peters the
reason he's in Los Angeles because the Chiefs have lived
through all his guessing. They've seen him try to do

(01:42:46):
things that's not fits to what they do defensively. It
cost them games in Kansas City, cost them the Jet
game last year, almost cost them the Jet game last year.
It cost him this game last night. It's great, it's
a great point free. You can't freelance at at that point.
And uh Andy Reid is not an idiot for for
for giving him away. Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.

(01:43:07):
How the Patriots. I tried to people say the Patriots
don't really have a system. They got Tom Brady. My
feeling has always been there they're they're the ultimate pragmatists, right, Like,
are they a four or three or a three or
four team? And it's changed, but some of it is, yes,
that there whatever it takes to win. Are they a
running team or a passing team? Yet last night they
don't have Sony Michelle, they don't have Rob Gronkowski, and

(01:43:30):
yet they seem to find a way to figure it
out and get better and better offensively as the night
goes on. How have how are they seemingly the only
franchise that can change week not just season this season,
but week to week who they are and what they're about. Well, look,
the head coach is special. I mean he's unique. I
mean he reversed engineers everything. He went to that game.
He knew what he had on the table, and he said,

(01:43:51):
we're gonna have to come up with plays to make
chunk's yards. So you saw trick plays. You saw kind
of they created plays within their offensive system to give
them a chance to make some chunkyards because they knew
if they would just rely on their offense to make chunkyards,
they don't have enough weapons in there. You know, they
didn't have ground to stretch the field. They weren't going
to be able to do the things they needed to do,

(01:44:13):
and so they found a way to manufacture yards. They
did exactly what they had to do. That's the way
they are there. Every week a new week. This week
they'll work on Tennessee. What do we have to do
to win the game against Tennessee? Do we put Patterson
in the backfield? Maybe we'll make Patterson a receiver. But
that's how they break down the game every week. There's
no surprise. I mean, he reverse engineers everything. He sets
the team up so that they can't lose first, and

(01:44:35):
then he finds ways to win the game. And the
longer that game went on, the Packers found a way
to lose. Look, they help They helped Rogers to under
you know, six and a half yards a thrill. And
when Rogers doesn't make big plays, the Packers offense doesn't
have enough consistency in it to be able to be effective.
They dare the Packers to run the ball all night.
The Packers couldn't do it. You're you're, you're one of

(01:44:57):
the most honest people ever in this business. Michael Lombardi
joining his former gender manager his book grid Iron Genius
and Master class and winning championships and building dynasties in
the NFL. Um he didn't make all the best throws
and all the best reads, but he doesn't. It just
they don't all seem to be on the same page.
Is this just a relationship that's run its course, or
does Aaron Rodgers need to need to buck up and

(01:45:19):
and operate better within this system. I think there's a
little bit of a problem here, and here's where it is.
I think when you have Rogers has been in the
league so long, and he requires intellectual stimulation by having
an advanced playbook, and you've got a bunch of young
receivers around him, they can't handle a young playbook. They're
not equipped for it. So there's a disconnect. You know,

(01:45:40):
Brady is intellectually stimulated every week because the playbook in
New England keeps growing and he they keep challenging it. Now,
the cost and effect of that is they have a
hard common finding receivers. They have a hard time finding
guys come in there and play earlier in their careers
because of the systems too hard, it's too complicated, and
they can't get them to handle it. They are four,

(01:46:00):
they take a step back. But if they do it
the other way, Brady would be completely unhappy and you'd
have a Aaron Rodgers situation. I think that's what's going
on in Rebay, Okay, Oakland. I see the plan coming together.
Um I really do the five first round draft picks
over the next two years, all of the cap room
and people, every different every situation where a team tanks,

(01:46:23):
people hate it and they say the guy doesn't know
what he's doing. But there's a lot of good points
that have been made by people saying like, look, when
John's been really good, he's you were there when they
when he was really good in oak in Oakland last time.
That that he does not have or hasn't shown the
ability to have a keen eye for drafting. He might
have all those picks, but he might screw it up anyway.

(01:46:44):
Is he going to surround himself with good enough people
to take advantage of all of the picks and all
of the money that they're gonna have to spend. I
think that's the conversation has to have with himselves. He
has to know what his strengths are, what we are,
and hired people that could come in and help him.
I mean, he never has been truly in charge. When
he was at the rate, doesn't have the success. The
defensive coordinator operated under the direction of Al Davis, the

(01:47:04):
special team's coach, ab Marina. John ran the offense with
rich Gannon and did a great job and we went
to a conference championship game, had the tuck in and
all that. But the reality of it, this is the
job's bigger. Now he's gonna have to run an organization.
It's a huge job. I think. I'm you know, I
think we have to stop talking about the hundred million
dollar contract and a ten million a year because the
reality of it is, if you're in charge, in command

(01:47:26):
of a two billion dollar industry, you should make that,
if not more. It's not about how much he makes,
It's about how he decides to spend his time and
how he sees his time being spent and how he
can influence the organization, not just the offense. I think
that's gonna be the biggest challenge for John. He's got
to do that, and I think he's got to try
to do it, and do it quickly and do it
the way he wants to do it. It will not

(01:47:47):
be easy. Does Amari Cooper fix what ails the Dallas
Cowboys offense. Now. I mean, look tonight, the first fifth
team plays, I promise you a Marie Cooper is gonna
touch them all three times. They're gonna do everything in
their power to get up the football early to prove
their trade right. But the longer he's gonna have to play,
people will take him away. The burden of responsibility is
gonna fall on Prescott Kenny operate in an offense where

(01:48:08):
he allows him to utilize his feet. I think the
move that they made in terms of the offensive line
coach was critical. They had to do something Paul Olsen.
It was not a good fit for what they wanted
to do. It wasn't working. They needed to change. They
need to get that more toughness there. Hopefully that will
turn that offense around. I think the Cowboys are good
on defense. I just think at the end of the day,
they just don't have enough skill players, especially inside the
middle of the field. Once you take away Cold Beasley,

(01:48:31):
is it on Cooper? Can Cooper handle it? I'm not sure. Um.
You haven't been a big buyer into the Chargers and
they almost gave away one yesterday in Seattle because their
kicker was so bad he missed two extra points, missed
a field goal, and then they went for two because
he had missed an extra point early. Anyway, that's that's
seven points they left on the field and Seattle had
a chance to time with no time, with no time

(01:48:53):
on the clock, that said, they're doing this without Bosa
and they're gonna get Hunter Henry and they got rid
of their kicker. So we'll see if the kicker out
the practice squad can do it. What's your level of
buying into the Chargers. Look at the daytime you can
go in there and win in Seattle, you're you've proved
yourself and you've proved yourself to me. I think when
you look at Philip Rivers is having an m VP season.
If we weren't talking about Patrick Mahomes as much, we'd

(01:49:16):
be talking about Philip Rivers. Philip Rivers is twenty points
higher in his career quarterback rating than he's ever been
at this time in his life. He's throwing the ball
down the field better than he every hands. These receivers
are making place for me. Melvin Gordon's good. I mean,
the Rams get all the offensive attention, but the Chargers
have the ability to be almost ram like with their offense,
and their defense has gotten better and better as the

(01:49:37):
weeks going on. I think it was an impressive win
up there. I thought it was their best win of
the season to go into Seattle against the team that
has played really well and have a chance to and
win that game and really almost get it back because
of your ticket. Now they straightened it out. Hopefully they'll
continue to go that way, and if it does, I
think the charges are gonna be a tough out for
a lot of teams. Pittsburgh Steelers are expecting to get

(01:49:58):
Levy on Bell back soon. How would you handle You're
you're the general manager in Pittsburgh. How do you handle it?
I wouldn't activate him for a long time. I mean,
you know who needs him really seriously. I mean, James
Conner has been outstanding. He's averaging over ten yards of catch,
he runs the ball. I'm not taking James Conner off
the field. Nobody's more important than the team. The team
is all that matters. You know, Levan wants to jet

(01:50:18):
ski down in Miami. He can stay there and when
he shows up, he reports he's gonna collect his check.
But he's gonna have to prove that he could earn
a spot on the team. Nobody's gonna give him anything.
Why should they give him something when these guys have
been there since the middle of the July sweat and
you're working hard to improve their team that started off
slow that now it looks pretty good. He's got to
earn it back. Take his money. One thing, you know
for sure, his career is only gonna have about seven

(01:50:41):
games left in Pittsburgh and life goes on. Uh North
Turner seems to have put together some of that puzzle
that is Cam Newton. How has he been able to do?
You know, Camp the big knock on Cam has always
been you know, he's just not that efficient. I know
they're used him as a as a running back, you know,
using on bootlegs a bunch, But you know, an efficient

(01:51:03):
Cam Newton is something we don't see often. How's nor
have been able to do this well? I think they've
gotten better offensive weapons. I mean last year Olso missed
a lot of time. I thought Mike should did an
actually good jobs last season. They had a lot of
guys not healthy last year. I think when they got
Tory Smith in there, that helps set the outside, and
he's been hurt. But d J. Moore has been a
huge player for them, and there they fixed this offensive
line a little bit where TAM's done well. And McCaffrey

(01:51:26):
to me is I don't want to call him the
comeback player, but I think he's the most improved player
in the league because he's added more girth, he's added
more power, he's running the ball more effectively, and they
can stretch you horizontally, and they can stretch you vertically
at the line of scrimmage, and nor has done a
great job of getting Cam to do that. But Camp
has always been a really good player. Takes too much heat.
I think he's undervalued in turns and times. I thought

(01:51:48):
the Panthers are undervalued in times. I think they're really
good teams. There are as good as the Saints. No,
but I think they're really good. You have been the
general manager of the Cleveland Browns, um so if you
were once again, if you were to have that position again,
who's the guy that you would hire? Because now all
of a sudden you're getting some coaches throwing their names
out there saying that they'd be interested. Well, who do
you think is the right fit for that personnel and

(01:52:10):
for Baker Mayfield as a young quarterback. Well, I think
they need a culture desperately. They haven't had a culture
in a long time, probably since Belichick left there in
they need somebody to come in and install a culture.
I think the greatest culture builder in college football is
Dabo Sweetie. That's who I would hire. I wouldn't leave
town until he said yes. I think that would be
the most important guy that I would go. Good. I
need somebody to build a program. They don't need somebody

(01:52:31):
to cater to Baker Mayfield, they don't need somebody to
cater to John Dorsey. Did need somebody to come in
and build a program, to establish something that can last
longer than a year or two, something that can transcend
a little bit of time and bring them the culture
that they need based on the athletes of today. And
that's who I'd go hire. Awesome stuff. The book is
called Gridiron Genius, a master class and winning championships and

(01:52:52):
building dynasties in the NFL. Also check out his podcast,
it's called GM Street. He's Michael Lombardi. Michael, thanks for
joining us. Thanks Let's get you to Dan buy or
get an update on everything else in the world of sports.
Has a breaking news actually is the United States Olympic
Committee has moved to remove USA Gymnastics status as the
nationally national governing body. The U s o C says

(01:53:14):
they are in the process of looking for a new
governing body, whether it be a new organization or possibly
in existing one. How does that work? What do you
mean of how do they find a new governing body?
Or well, what they could do I believe is these
clubs are all aligned, um and you could form a
new one or have that alignment put together. Does it

(01:53:38):
make any sense? Like there's clubs? Comes from tough question
to ask me the USA Gymnastics not necessarily, No, it's not.
It's not mine either. I have a couple of friends
who's who has young kids that are on that kind
of trajectory or whatever. I guess My thing is like this,

(01:54:01):
this feels a lot. It's like, oh, we're gonna we're
gonna clean this up. This is all from the doctor
Dr Larry Naser stuff, right, and which is just a horrible,
horrible story, awful and I get that some of it
is just for appearance more than for reality. Why don't
you just kind of clean house and start over. Other
than we're gonna take away there, We're gonna have a

(01:54:22):
new it's gonna be the same thing. It's gonna have
a different name. I still have the same job. Right anyway,
go ahead elsewhere, maybe feel bad for I just try
to engage. I'm just trying. I'm just wondering out loud.
You know, we got a lot of a lot of
you know, a lot of things in the oven over here.
You know that's all in the oven. I just got
a lot of things you aren't showing I did. I

(01:54:45):
just said a lot, a lot of a lot of
stuff cooking over here. Whether it be with the NFL, NBA,
WOS reporting that the Calves and then coach Larry Drew
agreed to terms on a new contract are idiots. They
are absolutely idiots in Cleveland. They are the dumbest people alive.
It's not I have nothing against Larry Drew. They don't
want him to be the long term coach. They told
him that, and he's like, well, I want a new contract.

(01:55:06):
I want to did your team sucks? They're gonna suck
with you're the coach or somebody else's the coach. Do
you want it to do you not want it for
the rest of the year. Instead, they gave a contract,
and the dumbest people alive, they gave him a contract
for the rest of the year that includes some partial
guarantees for next season as well, so Larry Drew will
stay on as the head coach of the Cavaliers. A

(01:55:27):
bunch of news in the NFL. Jaguars running back Leonard
Fournette practice today trying to return from a strain hamstring.
The NFL did flext South the Steelers Jaguars game for
Sunday NET in week eleven and replaced it with the
Vikings Bears matchup in Chicago. Bengals waterceiver AJ Green gonna
miss a couple of games with the toe injury, according
to ESPN. Now retired NFL coach Bruce Arian still the

(01:55:48):
Kent Repository that the Browns repository. Yes, that's apparently the
paper in Kent. Uh. What what is that? What's that
Julia Oberts movie where like the guy pretends to be
something from Horse and Hound, that Horse and Hill Notting Hill, right,
Notting Hill? Like that's that sounds like a fake newspaper,

(01:56:12):
The Canton Repository reports at least it's not the kids.
It's a pository anyway. The yeah, they can't repositories. Uh.
Talk to Bruce Arians and the former NFL coach said
that he'd only on retire if he could get the
Brown's job. Titans Cowboys tonight completely unprofessional by the way,
just so you know, I'm sure he's I mean this.

(01:56:33):
You can't do it. You can't be doing NFL games
cutting yourself out there being NFL coach eight fifteen Eastern
Time tonight Titans and Cowboys. Look for the Cowboys to
wear an interesting uniform combo Navy jersey's white pants tonight
for the Cowboys against Tennessee. So it's there. Yes, their
road uniforms the road were as with silver with a

(01:56:57):
silverish gray pant, but the pants are gonna be white
from their color rush set and a navy top for
Monday night football. They'll look fabulous. Day've just fabulous. Thanks
to appreciate it. Thank you. When when the Dallas Cowboys
start changing their uniforms, you know we have we have

(01:57:18):
real we have jumped the proverbial shark right saldi Alas
that's exactly what happened. The NFL is alive and well,
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(01:57:44):
Lawrence five and a half sacks so far this season.
What's Dax's leadership been like during all these questions about
the offense not not firing on all cylinders? Uh, I
really don't know any of his responses um directly, but
I know I know is confident. I already know that
would never give up on us or on his teammates

(01:58:05):
because that's the type of guy he is, and that's
the type of leader he is. I mean, everything is
not clicking on all centers, um, on all areas farm
right now. But I feel like, you know, he had
some time off to get this, you know, arm underneath
him and his legs underneath him, and you know, be
able to get into film room and study himself and
not other teams because during the week it's hard to

(01:58:28):
study yourself when you have a new opponent each week.
So now, and that's just the main thing. Getting back
to the basis and understand his his game planning being
able to go out in there institute. So I got
I got a lot of faith in that um that
he would get it right for our offense and you know,
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(01:59:18):
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I know you've got your eye on those Bengals. ESPN
says water sever A j Green gonna miss at least
two games with a total injury down. The good news
is that I don't know how they don't need to
I'm calling the Bengals game on Sunday. Ramos. Oh, very nice, Ramos.

(01:59:43):
We had this buyer, we had the succussion, right, yeah,
this is the play by play game, right, yes, yes,
Dalton back to past looking he looks mix in off
to the off in the flat, not to mix it.
He those it's a great down that the fire touch
down backs out? Sorry, how about how about if a
Bengal score you could say he earned his stripe. Oh oh,

(02:00:10):
they're good, right, ok. I like that one. I like
that one. You just won't be able to say it
with a J Green maybe a lot of Tyler Boyd.
Tyler Boyd who came on the Doug Gottlime Show on
Fox Sports Radio and told us, uh, what was the movie?
Up Upload, Up Upgrade? It was actually really good and
really freaky. I watched on a plane. I'm still scared. Anyway,

(02:00:33):
It's really good. I'm sure the passengers behind you loved it.
Could do they get to see it as well? You know? Uh? Yeah,
oh are you last row in first class? Just I'm
just saying, there's not a lot of people around where
I'm sitting, Okay, all right. The Bengals released quarterback Christian

(02:00:54):
Hackenburg from their practice squad signed quarterback Connor Cook to
take his place. The only thing accurate about Christian Hackenburgh
is the report that he was released Big ten quarterback
carousel five. That was good. I just came up with
that one. Sorry ahead. The Chargers released kicker Caleb Sturgis
replaced him with practice squad kicker Michael Badgeley. I just

(02:01:19):
I was. I was. My only thought on Surgis was
would he get kiffened on the runway before he got
on the plane. I believe it was after he got
off the plane in Los Angeles. They actually sent him
to Sturgis, South Dakota. Nice Nice Sturgis, Harley Davidson reference good.
Get the motorcycles out. The stat on the broadcast yesterday

(02:01:41):
said he became the first kicker since nineteen seventy nine
to miss an extra point and a field goal in
three straight games. New league record like nukelause right. Another league,
the NFL flexed out the Steelers Jaguars game from Sunday
Football in Week eleven, Vikings Bears takes over in the
prime time slot. Is that and I'm great? But what was?
What was the first one? Steelers Jaguars were supposed to

(02:02:03):
be the Sunday Night game in Week eleven, but they
moved that out and moved Vikings Bears to Sunday Night.
Uh yeah, I think it's the jaguarsher jaguarsher toast um.
It is interesting because the Steelers are such a big
national brand, but so too are the Bears. I would
say those all those two things being equal, you go
with Vikings because the Vikings are better. Mike's look pretty good.

(02:02:26):
I'm like, look, Dalvin Cook being healthy gives them a
totally new dynamic. Bills that coach Sean McDermott said quarterback
Derrick Anderson would start in Week ten against the Jets
if he clears concussion protocol and if Josh Allen isn't
cleared from his elbow injury. So Anderson is still ahead
of Peterman on the depth chart. I mean, if you're
behind Nathan Piter, can I just say who is Who's

(02:02:47):
the former Bills quarterback who came out today. He's a
really nice guy, played at Florida State. Ej Manuel came
out and it's like, Hey, I'm watching Nathan Peterman. I
can't believe I don't have a job in the league.
E J Manuel, who I believe he's gonna start calling
some game games. He aj Man is one of the
best quarterbacks in football until the ball was snapped right
like he looked apart. He's a great interview, he's a

(02:03:08):
smart guy. He just was not a good NFL quarterback.
So I'm not telling you Peterman is any good. I
feel I almost feel terrible for no one could have
been good behind with that team that he's been playing with,
and Peterman has been awful. But like, let's not e J. Man,
you're not really helping yourself when we start going back
through how good a quarterback or bad quarterback is the
first round pick you were Finally last night and their

(02:03:29):
win against the Packers, he didn't see Patriots head coach
Bill Belichick, and then he salutes a service game that
His response today asked about it on a conference call, quotes,
I usually wear the same thing for every game. I
mean not the same thing, but depending on the weather
and so forth, I just wear the same thing for
every game. So I don't change what I wear weekly
based on one other the whatever the theme of the

(02:03:50):
week is. Actually, I don't think you answered, I think
I wear the same thing weekly. I mean not done
the same thing, but I were the same thing weekly
no matter what the game is, same thing weekly. That
with the same thing weekly, So I don't change what
I were weekly based on the week. Is how does seving?

(02:04:10):
How do stiving? Was the final score and that final
play between Seattle and the Chargers, you being uh, the
Chargers were the better team with the miskicks, But and
then Russell he finds a way like even that last
pass was deflected, but that dude finds a way where
it feels like every Russell Wilson game ends the same
with Russell Wilson running around and throwing a ball that

(02:04:31):
could or could not be caught in the end zone.
Could have been caught yep, yep, was deflected, but could
have been caught. Who wins tonight? John Ramos, I'll take
the Cowboys music Cowboys as well. What about you, buyer,
I'll take the Titans and the points. I'll take Cowboys,
Cowboys bag. I'm sweating like mikel Orvin

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