October 20, 2020 • 38 mins
Doug loves the plan the Miami Dolphins have put into place after announcing QB Tua Tagovailoa will be their starter now. Plus, former NFL executive Doug Whaley joins the show to share what it takes to find a franchise QB and build a team around him.
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Fox Sports Radio Doug Gotlic Show, broadcasting live from sunny
southern California. We got a great hour for you. Doug
Wale is gonna join us for Bill's general manager. Will
get his sense of what the Bills have done since
his outstre to build a consistent Letner right, but we'll
also get his thoughts on like, look, there's a couple
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of things Doug Whaley made, you know, the pick to
get Sammy Watkins straight up, to get Sammy Watkins that
probably ultimately led to his oust. But what really happened was, let'
let's see if Dan by Dan Buyer is like A
he knows so much about sports it's crazy, so okay,
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So the what what really happened I believe is that
Doug Whaley drafted a quarterback and they missed on a quarterback.
I think that's the years in which he was there.
All right, let me ask Dan Buyer, Dan, do you
remember the before they drafted Josh Allen who the Last
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Savior was a Buffalo at quarterback? J Manuel? Yes? And
e J Manuel, who is a really really good dude,
really good dude, but he just he was one of
those guys that looked the part. You know, everything about
him was like, man, he's classy, he's smart, Florida State
records football, blah blah blah blah blah. Uh. But yeah,
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he he wasn't good in the game. He just wasn't
good under pressure. And Wale I think was director of
player per pro personnel then, so when they when they
drafted him. But I'll be interested to know, like when
did they know that e J didn't have it? You know?
When did you know? Sometimes you know right away? Uh,
you just do. Remember Heath Schuler got drafted. I don't
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know if you guys remember this. Heath Scheuler was the
quarterback of Now he's like, is he is he still
a politician? Yeah? I think so, Yeah, I think that's
the case. Yeah, he's h one night former representative, former congressman.
You must have lost, you must have lost. Do you
remember who else the um the Redskins drafted that exact
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same year. M hm, yes, yes. And the famous story
that I don't know Mark Slayer, Yeah, he's told him before.
Mark slayth said he went to one of the coaches
during the first couple of days of practice and he
was like, Hey, how come the seventh round picks better
in the first round pick? And they were like, sha
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he Shieler was the number three pick overall in the draft. Wow,
pay for Johnny Majors and uh Phil Fumer and he
was a key with a chemist and they missed, boy,
they missed. He just wasn't wasn't a great pro quarterback,
was a great college quarterback in Tennessee. Is to his
third year there anyway. So two is gonna get a
start a week from Sunday against John's Rams. Remember they
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changed the schedule. Was supposed to be Jets Dolphins by
week Jets Dolphins. And I think this is one of
those cases where you know, we get the schedules, everybody
looks at the schedule like, oh, there's a bye week
early on the season. That would be a good week
to get to a in It feels like the Dolphins
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have had a plan all along, right, Like even you
go back to last year, we traded Laramie tunsl right
before the year, they traded Minka Fitzpatrick during the year
to the Pittsburgh Steelers, and then they went out and
they spent some of the draft capital as well as
use some money and signed free agents. It just it
feels like the Dolphins have a plan and are executing
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the plan. And that's one of those things where when
everyone's in on it, it totally works. When everyone's not that,
that's when it that's when it becomes um. Guys are
like yo, Like I think if you watch Ryan Fitzpatrick
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on Sunday, he sits down and he sits with Tah
and they're going over plays and they're talking back and forth,
and then Twa goes in there, and Ryan Fitzpatrick is
his biggest fan, his biggest cheerleader. Whether he wants and
fits played well. He played really well, granteds against the Jets.
I think a lot of people would look good. But
my guess is, and this is more than an educated guess,
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is that Chris Greer, who's their general manager and Brian Flores,
who's their coach, have told to have told old fits,
had told everybody, this is our plan that, barring some
unforeseen setback, if two is healthy, we're gonna go out
and we'll come out of the bye week. We'll have
a chance to really prepare him. He'll have he'll he'll
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be his best self, will find the right plays, we'll
have the right blocking, will protect him. And they gave
him just a little bit of run and he threw
two passes to two completed both. I think the reason
this one has a great chance to work is they're
all in on it, and when you're all in on
a guy, usually that guy plays the more confidence because
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he looks over the sideline and they're like, uh huh uh,
this is what we plan for. Right. Quality coaching and
quality general manager work is the exact same thing. It's
telling people what's gonna happen before it happens. Then it happens,
and they go, wow, that was really amazing. How do't
you know, Like Chris Greery like, look right, fitz Patrick's good.
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He's gonna win a couple of games. He's gonna look
pretty good in a couple of games. But fits just
so you know, like this is to his job when
we think he's ready and we're looking at coming out
of the bye week, regardless of value play, and like
you know, Ryan fitz Patrick is thirty seven years old,
he's been through it before, he's been the placeholder before,
Like he's done this things before. Either accepts it and
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that's the job, that's his job, or he would move
on and he didn't because this was the plan. I
don't think it has anything to do with Fomo that
justin Herbert's playing before they thought and playing well. I
don't think it's that everybody know Joe Burrow would play
right away in Cincinnati as they cleared out Andy Dalton.
I don't think that has anything to do with it.
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I don't think it's about how the Dolphins are playing
or how they're not playing, or how Fits is playing
or not playing. I don't think it's about the opponent
because obviously you would have prepared to prefer the Jets
to the Rams. I don't want to er and Donald
coming after my quarterback was coming off a hip injury.
I think this is really really simple. We gotta plan,
like said, to keep the plan and the plan started
a year and a half ago. Let's hire a bright, young,
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up and coming coach. Let's get some junkyard dogs out
there that people count out and see who can stick.
And they found some guys who have stuck. Some found
some guys that bought in the culture. And then they
went undrafted more culture guys and signed more culture guys
and and look great in the offseason. And they tanked
for one guy, for Tah. They didn't tank for, you know,
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for for Joe Burrow. They didn't tank for Justin Herber.
They tanked for Tuah, and then they got him, and yeah,
he was injured, but they had faith and if there
was any sense that there was anything wrong with him,
he wouldn't have been out there Sunday. And seeing as
he was out there last Sunday, he's fine to start
a week from Sunday. This is just a case of
a team and an organization all coming together and figuring out, all, right,
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what do we want to do. This is what we
want to do. We want to rebuild and do it
behind this young talented quarterback who's an outstanding leader. This
is the guy we believe in. And everybody's either all
in or there's somewhere else this year. It doesn't mean
that it will work, but it does mean that you're
giving it the best possible chance of working, the best
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possible chance of working, and that's usually when you get
a lot of success. All right. Coming up next is
Doug ot Lips Show here on Fox Sports. Tray. By
the way, this is Chris Sim's talking about to starting
for the Dolphins. Well, I think they had to do it,
you know, and and and this is why, because well,
what are you The Dolphins are getting it together, They're
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playing pretty good football. What were they gonna wait until
they were you know, eight and four and in the
playoff hume and then make the switch, right, I think
the timing is right. They're not worried about this year.
They know they're not gonna win the Super Bowl. But man,
I mean they killed the off season. You're seeing some
of those free agents and some of those draft picks
really pop for their football team. I mean, the Dolphins
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did everything last year for what a rebuild team should do.
It's textbook that. I mean, that's what teams should do.
If you're the Falcons and you're looking to rebuild or
any other team like that, you know, the Miami Dolphins
put the outline out there that was Chris Simms earlier.
Today people are freaking out because the Packers got blown
out again. Relax. Be sure to catch the live edition
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of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m.
Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
Heart Radio WAPP Gotlip Show Fox Sports Radio. I guess
I'm like the last one who hasn't jumped off the
Aaron Rodgers bandwagon. Right. They look like crap. They got
blown out by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and and cowards like,
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see he's a bailer. This on the Colin Cowherd, who
bailed on Aaron Rodgers for one bad game, calls Aaron
Rodgers a bailor. That's ironic, or that's pot cattle or
confirmation bias, something he's always thought. This is Aaron Rodgers.
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Um on with Pat McAfee. We came into the season
not an unknown, but not many people talking about us,
even though we were thirteen and three in NFC Championship.
Then we went four games pretty convincingly and people are like,
they're the best team in the NFL. Well, you gotta
play like it every week if you want to be
the best team in NFL, myself and our squad didn't.
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And I feel like that we can use this as
a positive and and a reminder when we start climbing
that hill again that you know, it's consistency is the
most important thing, and great teams have consistent habits, and
so we've got to keep doing the things that got
us to four oh in order to get back to
what we want to be. I kind of think that's
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a super mature no bad bye language. No there, there's
there's no lack of a cat like look with me.
I got to be more consistent and we got to
climb that hill like we just lose our minds because
we have this assumption that and I made it too.
We're like, wow, this is this chance to stick it
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to all those people like Pratty better than him and
go out and play. And he was playing fine, you know,
and then he throws kind of an arrogant pick and
the then the roof, actually the floor fell out under him. Um, look,
they take on a Houston team whom they are better than.
Then they get a Minnesota team who they've already beaten,
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and they are better than. Then they take on the Niners,
who apparently now we'll have fans in the stands fifteen
fans and the stands during that game shouldn't matter. Although
the Niners will be healthier than they are now, you
would think they still won't have nick bows. So we'll
see where they are. But a bunch of winnable games upcoming.
But the big thing is, like, this is Aaron Rodgers saying,
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we weren't as good as we played up until the bye,
we weren't as bad as we played coming out of
the bye, and it's just a game and we gotta
learn lessons. And this is you know, like, let's not
freak out, and I'm okay with that. I kind of
think we should all be okay with that. Doesn't stop
them from saying it doesn't stop from saying, like, man,
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he couldn't run the ball at all and they couldn't
protect and Aaron Rodgers didn't look comfortable and he had
Davante Adams and he was just off. Yeah. Yeah, great
quarterbacks have bad games. Brady has had several, had a
couple of this year, granted he's forty three years old.
Russell Wilson has had perfect games all season, long. But
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you know, you you give me a normally attend nothing lead,
a quarterback who never turns it over, they'll be fine.
He never turns it over, and he did two consecutive
possessions and one was a pick six. The other one
essentially should have been a pick sticks, right, I guess
you know. I mean they like one plane in score.
That's the ball game. When you're used to playing one way,
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and all of a sudden the guy who never turns
it over turns it over and gives away points, it's
really hard to overcome, especially against the team that's super
talented and loaded up and just crushed you with different
blitz packages. But I thought that was rather stately of
Aaron Rodgerson. Pretty correct, I'm with the monet. Let's be
sure to catch the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb
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Show week days at three p m. Easter noon Pacific
Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Um, we're gonna
get Doug Wally in the second, of course, a longtime
member the front office with the Buffalo bills and kind
of you know, I'm a Nike Look, he's got experiencing
this stuff. But even the experience you have with the
with the Buffalo Bills, doesn't prepare you for this year
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where you trade for a guy he has to sit
in quarantine. Like it's crazy. Literally, you trade for a
guy he has to sit in quarantine for uh for
for six days? So like what what are you? What
are you supposed to do? You know, like what it's
really hard to replace players when you know you've got
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guys going down with injury after injury after injury. And
that's what some of these that's what some of these
teams are going through, is they're just sitting there going, man, like,
what are we what are we're going to do? We
have so many injuries. I don't know what you do
if you the Cowboys, you view the Eagles, I mean,
obviously you don't stop playing, right but uh yeah, I
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mean who it's a tough world out there when you're
trying to feel the baseball team and you can't stay
healthy at all at all. There's no sympathy for the Cowboys,
but there's the reality of it is. And look, I Jay,
I'm I am not in any way attacking Jane Slater
because she got the quotes from players, but it very
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much matters which players it does. It doesn't look good.
It doesn't reflect well upon any team when they say
the coaches ill prepared, not making adjustments, and you know,
not getting us really ready to play. I get it
looks bad. But this is also the sign of guys
that are immature, is that they do the yeah, that's
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that's not my fault, that's somebody else's fault. Where there's
a lot of film where it looks like the effort
isn't there. You know, anybody can be out of alignment.
Anybody can be a bad fit for a three or
four defense. But when guys attacked them when they don't
have gap integrity, or they're not just not playing hard,
not chasing down the ball, I don't know. I look
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at the Cowboys and I think they're a mess. But
the crazy part about it is they're still in first place.
Doug Whalley joins us A long time remember the Bills
front office. He joins us in the Doug Gotlip Show
on Fox Sports Radio. Um, one ask you, so two
is gonna get a start in a week and a
half for the Miami Dolphins. And you've been through this
before when you're director of Pro player Personnel, when you're
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with the Bills and you guys, uh drafted DJ Manuel.
When did you know that he didn't have what you
thought he needed to have to to be the long
time start to to hold onto the job. It's, first
of all, thanks for having me on and hopefully every
ends well with you. Um. It's one of those things
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where when you're around a quarterback enough, especially when you've
been around some very successful quarterback, it becomes very evident
that he or that quarterback doesn't have the skill set
to take you where you want to go. Especially in
our situation with e J. We started to put a
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bunch of pieces around him to say this will help
e J be better? Or and when you when that
was a mistake I made. And when you have to
put pieces around the quarterback to help the quarterback, then
you you don't have a quarterback. You need a quarterback,
and really good quarterbacks make all the pieces around them better. Right. Uh,
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it's it's it's it's fasting. But I mean, like, because
I know a little bit about e J. Where like
if you meet him, you're blown away because a super
bright guy and very charming guy, right, and he looks
like everything about him like looks the park. There was
just something like in games, he wasn't that good like
that really, you know. So I just wonder when you
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when you when you draft a guy and you feel
like you know a guy, if it takes you longer
to admit maybe he's not the guy you you obviously
and like you said, first of all, he's an incredible
human being when you meet him, he isn't I mean,
he's just everything you want as a quarterback. The thing
that kept coming up was his ability to understand the
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nuances of the quarterback position, to be able to anticipate,
to be able to understand the coverages and be able
to say, Okay, that was there last time and they
fooled me, but this time I'm going to have to
do something different. So he was more of a programmed guy,
which when everything was perfect and the pocket was perfect
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and the coverage didn't change, he could make a throw.
When there was some adversity, not only on the field
but off the field. He got injured and it was
the first time he had to deal with an injury
and coming back from injury. I don't think he was
totally equipped to come back from that and keep progressing
to be able to be a suitable star starting quarterback. Now. Also,
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we did overdraft him. If he was a third round pick,
he probably could still be in the league. But as
a first round pick to whom much has given, much
is expected, so a lot more was expected from them. Yeah,
and then you have to play him earlier than you
want to play him. Um, you know the owners sitting
there going, why don't you playing the guy you drafted
in the first round. The fans are saying you throw
them in there. You're like, that's why we didn't play him? Right?
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All right? What about what about Twa Kay who he
has shown the fortitude to come back from multiple injuries.
The last one was one that could have ended his career.
They're playing pretty well, they got a bye week, and
they just announced today we're gonna start to h what's
your reaction to Miami the timing of Miami's decision. I
think it's very surprising. Now. I mean, the one thing,
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like you said, they're playing well, they're winning games, So
it's it's very curious to insert him now because if
you look at let's say i'm the Homes, you have
a capable starter there with Fitzpatrick, a very smart crafty
bet that has accepted the role that he's the place keeper.
He could learn from that from Fits and you read
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the stories and anytime Fitz comes off the sideline, he's
sitting there talking to to a breaking it down to him,
do this is what happened. That's what happened. That type
of stuff is invaluable. So but with that said, you've
been a player, and I've been a player before. There
must be something in practice that is making it undeniable
that he needs to be the starter, because you know,
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make no mistake, if he wasn't ready, those players in
that locker room would let it be known that this
is not the right move. And then lastly, it's very
curious that they're gonna have start his first start against
Aaron Donald. I mean, that's that's again curious. But there's
got to be something that we as the public aren't
pretty too, that is making that that decision, driving that decision. Yeah,
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it's it's interesting because originally that game was supposed to
be the Jets right play the Jets by So that's
why it made sense to me, like, yeah, dude, you
go against the Jets like that, that's the JV that's
like that's a good one. Um let me let me,
let me hypothesize for a second. I feel like this
entire thing is what they had planned, right Like, look, look,
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Chris Greer gets the job, and they're like, all right,
here's what we're gonna do. We want two is our guy,
and we're gonna sell off the other pieces that we
don't necessarily want or need because we're bad. We're gonna
start over. So Minca Fitzpatrick and Larrmy Tunsel they're gone.
They get picks back in return, they try to figure
out what they had, they did well in free agency,
well in the draft, and they end up two ends
up because of injury falling to them even though they
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don't get the number one pick. And my guests would
be this was the plan all along, off the bye week,
they would play him barring injury, and it just so
happens to be the ramps. Is that a possibility that
a team is so committed to a plan that they
don't care about the opponent? Absolutely? And the one thing though,
in in the NFL, the scary thing part is you
can have a plan, you just hope that you're stay,
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you're around to enact that plan. But that could be
a plausible reason why they're doing it now. And guess what,
the plan has worked so far, so might as well
stick with it. Um. Okay, So how much how much
can we blame the Cowboys coaching staff? And I'm not
sure if you're aware that that there's some report today
from James Slater that some players came out and said
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that they're not teaching us, they're not prepared. Meanwhile, you know, like, look,
I give at least the offense a bit of a
pass last night. You lose most of your line and
your quarterback. I don't know anybody who's gonna look good
against the legitimate team. But but the fact that the
defense is such a mess, how much of that is
on the players? How much of that is on the
coaching staff? Well? I look at it this way, and
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when you're losing, everyone's got to be disgruntled. But the
alarming part is for the Blair players, they just don't
doesn't seem like they believe in the coaching staff or
the game plan. So it really has to we really
have to look at it as has the game. The
NFL game passed the Dallas Calibilities coaching staff by and
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all these reports that are coming out, you may have
to lean to that because very rarely, especially this early
in the season, are you're gonna have players coming out
and basically telling that our coaching staff isn't that. So
it's very alarming. And the players do have some culpability,
but they have some talent on that staff. They had
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some injuries, but on that team, Uh, it's alarming. And
I'd have to say right now from from the reports,
you'd probably go sixty five coaching players. Yeah. No, I mean,
like looks the last night's perfect example. You bring in
a guy who knew age system, you know different, you
know air aide, air aide system. Mike Nolan's like old
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school NFL and and hadn't been a coordinated for several years.
That it feels a little bit. The Cowboys got this
a little bit with Monty Kiffin right where Monty Kiffin
he couldn't do it anymore, and he couldn't do it
at SC even because because because the game had changed
so much, his old tampature didn't work. And and Doug,
I don't know about the basketball, but in football there's
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a saying, why do you do it? Because we've been
done it? That way forever. Yes, Well, guess what now
the game has is starting to evolve. And I think
I've said this before, is football used to be. NFL
set everything in the football ecosystem, and it was a
trickle down effect. Anything the NFL did, everybody else trying
to learn. Well, now the roles are reversed, it's a
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trickle up effect. Things from college are starting to trickle
up into the NFL. So if you have these old
school guys that are resistant to change or evolution, the
game is just going to pass them. And I think
especially on defense, I think we're seeing that on the
Dallas Cowboys. Uh. This this is a great converse, saying
Doug Walley, joining his former general manager of the Buffalo Bills,
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Doug gotlip show here on Fox Sports Radio. Um, let
me let me go to the Bills. Um, how the
knock on Josh Allen was accuracy and it still pops
up at sometimes when he just misses guys with that
with that big arm. But how have they been able
to kind of craft this thing to be more consecutively
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and consistently successful. I think you gotta look at Brian Dable.
I mean you you've got to look at the offensive
coordinator and the pieces that they put around him to
put him in positions to be successful. You saw Monday
night when he's got to sit back in that pocket
and be on the spot and try to go through
progressions that that's not where he's the most successful. The
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most successful when he's able to get something out quick
or on unscripted place where he's running around and he
that dual threat. So I think the dable is one
of the main reasons why they started so so hot.
But again, over time, guys that have lack of accuracy
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are going to regress to their means, and I think
we saw it last night and hopefully it doesn't keep
popping up for the rest of the year. Hopefully he
can bounce back to where where he played in the
first four games, but he's going to have games like
that because the accuracy is it's it's like a golf swing.
It's muscle memory. And if you have to go to
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a quarterback guru to get your feet right, in your
arm position right, and your arm slot right, that's going
to take time before it's become natural muscle memory. But
even even then, you still, like you said, you still
regrets to you get the game, Slippert, you still regrets
to the means happen with Lamar Jackson right where where
you know people are able to find out what throws
he doesn't make well and make him make those more often,
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and the accuracy issues that he had in college have
have have popped back up. Doug Waley, our guest on
The Gotlip Show. Conversely, you have Kansas City, and I
think to some people it was a whole hump. To me,
the way Buffalo played them is the same way the
Chargers played them, where you try to keep everything in
front and forced them these long drives and running the football.
The differences this year they can run the football. Is
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there any chance they're actually better than they were last season?
I would say yes. When you can have that balanced
attack where people can't make you one dimensional, and with
the weapons they have, and then you add Lady on
Bell in there, Oh man, that's that's gonna be a
special unit and it's gonna be a defensive coordinator's nightmare.
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You gotta pick your poison. What are you gonna play
cover too? And have them run the ball or have
them give up all shorts and then guess what they're
it's gonna be death by a thousand cuts, or do
you play man and come after them? And then it's
guess what, it's big place, so uh they're forced to
be reckoned with and it's uh, nothing I would want
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to wish on my defensive coordinator. Who who are the
real Green Bay Packers? Weeks one through four or weeks six?
I would say weeks one through four. H You gotta
understand these players, they have sixteen maybe more days to
be on and to be on for that many times
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is very hard. And then you act not just one player,
but you've got to have fifty some players that have
to be playing at their best and having a good
day at the office. And it's hard to have a
good day at the office every day on your job.
I mean there's some days you probably say I didn't
wasn't up to part that day, but I did the
best I could. And there's other days like I nailed it. Well,
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guess what, when you aren't up to part on the
football field, those things get exposed and it's just something
that makes it people understand. Hopefully they understand it is
very hard to win in the NFL. And then add
the fact that the other team they get paid to. Yeah,
they're health they're trying it to win as well well.
And and and they got what and their offense got
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what last time out too, So it wasn't like they
weren't motivated right right, right exactly. But if I'm betting
on anything, I'm betting on Aaron Rodgers. I'm I'm I'm
absolutely with you. Doug Walley joining us on the Doug
Gotlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio. UM, I felt
like Carson Wentz played really well. He's just between the
drops the offensive line issues like he's doing it. It's
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all smoking mirrors. Many have been critical of him trying to,
you know, kind of have to play hero ball. What's
what's your sense of the Eagles quarterback. I'm with you.
I'm a big Wins fan. And what I like about it,
which some people may be knocked and knocking him, is
this competitiveness. He knows he's playing with one hand tied
behind his back, with with the people that are around them,
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just because of injuries, but he's willing his team to
try to win. He's doing everything he can and in
his power, and to me, that is what you want
in your quarterback. He's trying to if no one else
around can make it happen, I'm going to take it
all myself to make this happen and will this team
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to win. So sign me up. Yeah. What about Baker?
Baker feels like how you described e J. Well, he said,
if you got to put a bunch of people around him,
he probably not the guy. He's got a running game,
although they didn't have one against the Steelers. He's got
elite wide receivers. They went out and got him a
great pass catching tight end, and it feels like he's
holding them back. Is that a wrong way to read
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what what happened in Cleveland against Pittsburgh? Not at all.
And until he can answer that bell, that's the that's
what's gonna be his that's what's gonna be out there
on him. Um, when you make them one dimensional and
you make Baker Mayfield throw the ball, especially from the pocket,
that's when you're going to have the most successful him
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and that's against him, and that's where his deficiencies will
be highlighted. Doug, awesome stuff man. Always great to have
you on. You are welcome any time. Thanks for joining
us on Fox Sports Radio. Appreciate me and stay healthy.
Say same to you. Doug Walley joining us a long
time member the front office of the Bills. He was
their general manager and of course joins us here on
the Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. Are the
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(31:06):
Ship and Sharp on Under Speed talking about the Chief's
offense and Pat Mahomes they put on the clinic. Um
it was hilarious. Is taking the road. Jones appro Skip, Oh,
y'all got side Leonard for he's gonna get no carriage,
y'all side to leave y'all Bill, he gonna get the carriage.
I'm gonna I'm gonna make you. I'm gonna make you.
Y'all remember that you took me in the first round.
And I can run the football. They ran the football
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with conviction thirty seven minutes time of possession. That's what
they owned. And as Jenny mentioned in and the read
is that Pat Mahomes was Patrick, Mom doesn't want you
to call him pack. My homeboy was one twenty six
to five and two touchdowns. Well, he didn't have to
do a whole lot as far as throwing the football
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because they were running the football so effectively. But on
third down, Skip, they were nine A nine A fourteen
on third din one for one on fourth down. And
you see what my Homes can do with his legs.
Skip that some plays that you know they're they're only
up six and Buffalo had gotten momentum. If he doesn't
scramble out of the pocket and complete this past the pringle,
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who knows what would have happened? What we'll never know.
And there's one they hadn't pinned on the side. Lad Skill,
He's about to throw, and he realized he's passed the
lot of scrimmage. He backs up, looked like he's about
to throw the kid and then didn't. I Like, why
when you get that fro, it's over Skill, it's over. Yeah, Yeah,
he's We've never seen anybody. We've never seen anybody in
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a complete package like business. He's an unbelievable player. I
would say this in regards to Levian Bell. When you
when you signed a guy, he has to be in
quarantined for six days. He's not. Plus, I'm gonna also
warn people, I don't believe that Levian Bell will ever
be what Levian Bell was. I don't The Jets tried
it last year. It didn't work. They wouldn't. They wouldn't
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have paid all that money for him to leave if
they had thought there was any chance of him getting
back to the other level. And I don't think he
had many opportunities because everybody's seen the tape and he
didn't look like the old Levy on Bell, which is
the same thing as Leonard Fournette. Like, why wouldn't Leonard
Fournett get the ball? Like, don't you think if that
he had juice in the tank they would give it
to him? Of course they would. When you can't play,
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you can't run anymore, and you can't run period, stop
and the story and Leonard Fournette is hasn't had nearly
the use. I believe that Levian Bell hasn't didn't miss
the year. When you miss a year, it actually set
you back. People think that it somehow resets your your timeline,
but it doesn't, not not in in any way. Um,
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I don't think it was a clinic yesterday. I think
they they've they're starting to take into account how everybody
plays them, you know, and people are just we're not
gonna let Tyreek Hill beat his deep. We're not gonna
get beat on this big chunk place. We're not gonna
do what what Baltimore did for the most part during
the game, which is try and pressure you and make
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pat Mahomes make plays because he can test his patients,
test the team's patients. And the truth is that even
though the Chiefs are better than the Bills, and Mahomes
is better than Josh Allen, Bills are very much in
that game with that style of defense. My guess is
this is why they bought in Levian Bell. They know
they're gonna have to run it more. They don't want
their rookie running back to just get beaten up. They
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know they're gonna have to dink and dunk their way
at down the field because people are gonna take away
what they do best, which is those big chunk plays.
Say so, it makes for boring watches, but it's still
gonna be successful, and I would say the completion percentage
will go up. Are we're what what time is the
game tonight? The Major League game? The five o'clock? Uh,
(34:46):
five eleven. Michael Moville has come up with five eleven.
That's the exactly we gotta have it a money If
I have eleven is the exact time. But if I
have eleven, one the greatest of the watching party from
Tampa to l A, the Dodgers to God, the breath
throughout the Rays. I guess they figure if it's five,
you'll get there too late. So they want you to
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have that eleven minutes to kind of like sit down
or you know, you know, you know, no, I don't,
I don't know specifically, but generally they want to they
need to win the quarter and half hours, and this
is a way to get them to win the most
quarter half hours and hours. So if they you start
at five eleven, you win the five o'clock and it
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probably I would guess that they're guessing it goes until
eight thirty West Coast time, which takes it to eleven thirty, which,
oh yeah, by the way, helps their nightly news numbers
as well as you get that kind of overflow crowd
into it. So even if you technically lose money on
the actual event, the local affiliates make money because they
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get a bigger audience leading into their nightly news than
they normally get. So I that would be that would
be my guess as to why they do five eleven Bye.
What do you think you worked in TV A lot?
Is that a that a reasonable guest to have? Sure? Sure,
you know a lot of In the old time in radio,
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the baseball game would start at seven oh five because
you would have news reports at the top of the hour,
and then you would do the news report and then
you could go into the to the ball game seven
oh seven oh five. I had a funny on Twitter,
and I want to see if you guys thought it
was funny on Twitter. Do you guys see the stories
kind of a crazy one where two Russian planes were intercepted,
(36:33):
um the US fighter jets intercept Russian bombers near Alaska.
So you guys tell me which one you like best?
Putin throwing picks like Aaron Rodgers on Sunday two at
a time like that one? Okay? Or or did Goose
and Mav take a picture now that that's a that's
a top gun reference. I don't expect Dan Buyer to
get I'll go by John's laugh and say that go
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with the second one. Did you like the first one
or not? I did? I just thought was a little
too long, you know, a little need a little puncher,
just like well you were to say, like Aaron rod
you know Aaron Rodgers esk, Yeah like that, Yeah, yeah,
I guess when you have to explain the jokes and
the jokes, but it's also taking a shot at your
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boy to like if it was a Jamis Winston one,
then I think it would just roll off. Not that
I'm the comedy master, but I don't know. Boys, he's
going to the McAfee all the time. Now it just
comeing out of me. Like I don't know, we we
we you know, like I thought we were good. I
just want to make sure we're good. I have no idea.
By the way, Goose and Maverick converted themselves correctly. They
were inverted when they took the picture of the inverted
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themselves inverted. Yes, well that's classified. Sorry, that's that's that.
That's classified. It's a famous scene from the first Top
Gun the new Top Gun. What was supposed to come
out last time this summer? When's it coming out? Who knows?
Who knows? Who knows? Uh, it's a case of David
versus Goliath, and I'm taking Goliath. I'll tell you why next.
And the dug got Michell
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southern California. We got a great hour for you. Doug
Wale is gonna join us for Bill's general manager. Will
get his sense of what the Bills have done since
his outstre to build a consistent Letner right, but we'll
also get his thoughts on like, look, there's a couple
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of things Doug Whaley made, you know, the pick to
get Sammy Watkins straight up, to get Sammy Watkins that
probably ultimately led to his oust. But what really happened was, let'
let's see if Dan by Dan Buyer is like A
he knows so much about sports it's crazy, so okay,
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So the what what really happened I believe is that
Doug Whaley drafted a quarterback and they missed on a quarterback.
I think that's the years in which he was there.
All right, let me ask Dan Buyer, Dan, do you
remember the before they drafted Josh Allen who the Last
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Savior was a Buffalo at quarterback? J Manuel? Yes? And
e J Manuel, who is a really really good dude,
really good dude, but he just he was one of
those guys that looked the part. You know, everything about
him was like, man, he's classy, he's smart, Florida State
records football, blah blah blah blah blah. Uh. But yeah,
(01:55):
he he wasn't good in the game. He just wasn't
good under pressure. And Wale I think was director of
player per pro personnel then, so when they when they
drafted him. But I'll be interested to know, like when
did they know that e J didn't have it? You know?
When did you know? Sometimes you know right away? Uh,
you just do. Remember Heath Schuler got drafted. I don't
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know if you guys remember this. Heath Scheuler was the
quarterback of Now he's like, is he is he still
a politician? Yeah? I think so, Yeah, I think that's
the case. Yeah, he's h one night former representative, former congressman.
You must have lost, you must have lost. Do you
remember who else the um the Redskins drafted that exact
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same year. M hm, yes, yes. And the famous story
that I don't know Mark Slayer, Yeah, he's told him before.
Mark slayth said he went to one of the coaches
during the first couple of days of practice and he
was like, Hey, how come the seventh round picks better
in the first round pick? And they were like, sha
(02:59):
he Shieler was the number three pick overall in the draft. Wow,
pay for Johnny Majors and uh Phil Fumer and he
was a key with a chemist and they missed, boy,
they missed. He just wasn't wasn't a great pro quarterback,
was a great college quarterback in Tennessee. Is to his
third year there anyway. So two is gonna get a
start a week from Sunday against John's Rams. Remember they
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changed the schedule. Was supposed to be Jets Dolphins by
week Jets Dolphins. And I think this is one of
those cases where you know, we get the schedules, everybody
looks at the schedule like, oh, there's a bye week
early on the season. That would be a good week
to get to a in It feels like the Dolphins
(03:45):
have had a plan all along, right, Like even you
go back to last year, we traded Laramie tunsl right
before the year, they traded Minka Fitzpatrick during the year
to the Pittsburgh Steelers, and then they went out and
they spent some of the draft capital as well as
use some money and signed free agents. It just it
feels like the Dolphins have a plan and are executing
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the plan. And that's one of those things where when
everyone's in on it, it totally works. When everyone's not that,
that's when it that's when it becomes um. Guys are
like yo, Like I think if you watch Ryan Fitzpatrick
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on Sunday, he sits down and he sits with Tah
and they're going over plays and they're talking back and forth,
and then Twa goes in there, and Ryan Fitzpatrick is
his biggest fan, his biggest cheerleader. Whether he wants and
fits played well. He played really well, granteds against the Jets.
I think a lot of people would look good. But
my guess is, and this is more than an educated guess,
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is that Chris Greer, who's their general manager and Brian Flores,
who's their coach, have told to have told old fits,
had told everybody, this is our plan that, barring some
unforeseen setback, if two is healthy, we're gonna go out
and we'll come out of the bye week. We'll have
a chance to really prepare him. He'll have he'll he'll
(05:13):
be his best self, will find the right plays, we'll
have the right blocking, will protect him. And they gave
him just a little bit of run and he threw
two passes to two completed both. I think the reason
this one has a great chance to work is they're
all in on it, and when you're all in on
a guy, usually that guy plays the more confidence because
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he looks over the sideline and they're like, uh huh uh,
this is what we plan for. Right. Quality coaching and
quality general manager work is the exact same thing. It's
telling people what's gonna happen before it happens. Then it happens,
and they go, wow, that was really amazing. How do't
you know, Like Chris Greery like, look right, fitz Patrick's good.
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He's gonna win a couple of games. He's gonna look
pretty good in a couple of games. But fits just
so you know, like this is to his job when
we think he's ready and we're looking at coming out
of the bye week, regardless of value play, and like
you know, Ryan fitz Patrick is thirty seven years old,
he's been through it before, he's been the placeholder before,
Like he's done this things before. Either accepts it and
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that's the job, that's his job, or he would move
on and he didn't because this was the plan. I
don't think it has anything to do with Fomo that
justin Herbert's playing before they thought and playing well. I
don't think it's that everybody know Joe Burrow would play
right away in Cincinnati as they cleared out Andy Dalton.
I don't think that has anything to do with it.
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I don't think it's about how the Dolphins are playing
or how they're not playing, or how Fits is playing
or not playing. I don't think it's about the opponent
because obviously you would have prepared to prefer the Jets
to the Rams. I don't want to er and Donald
coming after my quarterback was coming off a hip injury.
I think this is really really simple. We gotta plan,
like said, to keep the plan and the plan started
a year and a half ago. Let's hire a bright, young,
(06:58):
up and coming coach. Let's get some junkyard dogs out
there that people count out and see who can stick.
And they found some guys who have stuck. Some found
some guys that bought in the culture. And then they
went undrafted more culture guys and signed more culture guys
and and look great in the offseason. And they tanked
for one guy, for Tah. They didn't tank for, you know,
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for for Joe Burrow. They didn't tank for Justin Herber.
They tanked for Tuah, and then they got him, and yeah,
he was injured, but they had faith and if there
was any sense that there was anything wrong with him,
he wouldn't have been out there Sunday. And seeing as
he was out there last Sunday, he's fine to start
a week from Sunday. This is just a case of
a team and an organization all coming together and figuring out, all, right,
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what do we want to do. This is what we
want to do. We want to rebuild and do it
behind this young talented quarterback who's an outstanding leader. This
is the guy we believe in. And everybody's either all
in or there's somewhere else this year. It doesn't mean
that it will work, but it does mean that you're
giving it the best possible chance of working, the best
(08:06):
possible chance of working, and that's usually when you get
a lot of success. All right. Coming up next is
Doug ot Lips Show here on Fox Sports. Tray. By
the way, this is Chris Sim's talking about to starting
for the Dolphins. Well, I think they had to do it,
you know, and and and this is why, because well,
what are you The Dolphins are getting it together, They're
(08:27):
playing pretty good football. What were they gonna wait until
they were you know, eight and four and in the
playoff hume and then make the switch, right, I think
the timing is right. They're not worried about this year.
They know they're not gonna win the Super Bowl. But man,
I mean they killed the off season. You're seeing some
of those free agents and some of those draft picks
really pop for their football team. I mean, the Dolphins
(08:48):
did everything last year for what a rebuild team should do.
It's textbook that. I mean, that's what teams should do.
If you're the Falcons and you're looking to rebuild or
any other team like that, you know, the Miami Dolphins
put the outline out there that was Chris Simms earlier.
Today people are freaking out because the Packers got blown
out again. Relax. Be sure to catch the live edition
(09:10):
of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m.
Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
Heart Radio WAPP Gotlip Show Fox Sports Radio. I guess
I'm like the last one who hasn't jumped off the
Aaron Rodgers bandwagon. Right. They look like crap. They got
blown out by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and and cowards like,
(09:31):
see he's a bailer. This on the Colin Cowherd, who
bailed on Aaron Rodgers for one bad game, calls Aaron
Rodgers a bailor. That's ironic, or that's pot cattle or
confirmation bias, something he's always thought. This is Aaron Rodgers.
(09:55):
Um on with Pat McAfee. We came into the season
not an unknown, but not many people talking about us,
even though we were thirteen and three in NFC Championship.
Then we went four games pretty convincingly and people are like,
they're the best team in the NFL. Well, you gotta
play like it every week if you want to be
the best team in NFL, myself and our squad didn't.
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And I feel like that we can use this as
a positive and and a reminder when we start climbing
that hill again that you know, it's consistency is the
most important thing, and great teams have consistent habits, and
so we've got to keep doing the things that got
us to four oh in order to get back to
what we want to be. I kind of think that's
(10:38):
a super mature no bad bye language. No there, there's
there's no lack of a cat like look with me.
I got to be more consistent and we got to
climb that hill like we just lose our minds because
we have this assumption that and I made it too.
We're like, wow, this is this chance to stick it
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to all those people like Pratty better than him and
go out and play. And he was playing fine, you know,
and then he throws kind of an arrogant pick and
the then the roof, actually the floor fell out under him. Um, look,
they take on a Houston team whom they are better than.
Then they get a Minnesota team who they've already beaten,
(11:20):
and they are better than. Then they take on the Niners,
who apparently now we'll have fans in the stands fifteen
fans and the stands during that game shouldn't matter. Although
the Niners will be healthier than they are now, you
would think they still won't have nick bows. So we'll
see where they are. But a bunch of winnable games upcoming.
But the big thing is, like, this is Aaron Rodgers saying,
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we weren't as good as we played up until the bye,
we weren't as bad as we played coming out of
the bye, and it's just a game and we gotta
learn lessons. And this is you know, like, let's not
freak out, and I'm okay with that. I kind of
think we should all be okay with that. Doesn't stop
them from saying it doesn't stop from saying, like, man,
(12:02):
he couldn't run the ball at all and they couldn't
protect and Aaron Rodgers didn't look comfortable and he had
Davante Adams and he was just off. Yeah. Yeah, great
quarterbacks have bad games. Brady has had several, had a
couple of this year, granted he's forty three years old.
Russell Wilson has had perfect games all season, long. But
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you know, you you give me a normally attend nothing lead,
a quarterback who never turns it over, they'll be fine.
He never turns it over, and he did two consecutive
possessions and one was a pick six. The other one
essentially should have been a pick sticks, right, I guess
you know. I mean they like one plane in score.
That's the ball game. When you're used to playing one way,
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and all of a sudden the guy who never turns
it over turns it over and gives away points, it's
really hard to overcome, especially against the team that's super
talented and loaded up and just crushed you with different
blitz packages. But I thought that was rather stately of
Aaron Rodgerson. Pretty correct, I'm with the monet. Let's be
sure to catch the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb
(13:05):
Show week days at three p m. Easter noon Pacific
Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Um, we're gonna
get Doug Wally in the second, of course, a longtime
member the front office with the Buffalo bills and kind
of you know, I'm a Nike Look, he's got experiencing
this stuff. But even the experience you have with the
with the Buffalo Bills, doesn't prepare you for this year
(13:26):
where you trade for a guy he has to sit
in quarantine. Like it's crazy. Literally, you trade for a
guy he has to sit in quarantine for uh for
for six days? So like what what are you? What
are you supposed to do? You know, like what it's
really hard to replace players when you know you've got
(13:48):
guys going down with injury after injury after injury. And
that's what some of these that's what some of these
teams are going through, is they're just sitting there going, man, like,
what are we what are we're going to do? We
have so many injuries. I don't know what you do
if you the Cowboys, you view the Eagles, I mean,
obviously you don't stop playing, right but uh yeah, I
(14:11):
mean who it's a tough world out there when you're
trying to feel the baseball team and you can't stay
healthy at all at all. There's no sympathy for the Cowboys,
but there's the reality of it is. And look, I Jay,
I'm I am not in any way attacking Jane Slater
because she got the quotes from players, but it very
(14:34):
much matters which players it does. It doesn't look good.
It doesn't reflect well upon any team when they say
the coaches ill prepared, not making adjustments, and you know,
not getting us really ready to play. I get it
looks bad. But this is also the sign of guys
that are immature, is that they do the yeah, that's
(14:58):
that's not my fault, that's somebody else's fault. Where there's
a lot of film where it looks like the effort
isn't there. You know, anybody can be out of alignment.
Anybody can be a bad fit for a three or
four defense. But when guys attacked them when they don't
have gap integrity, or they're not just not playing hard,
not chasing down the ball, I don't know. I look
(15:20):
at the Cowboys and I think they're a mess. But
the crazy part about it is they're still in first place.
Doug Whalley joins us A long time remember the Bills
front office. He joins us in the Doug Gotlip Show
on Fox Sports Radio. Um, one ask you, so two
is gonna get a start in a week and a
half for the Miami Dolphins. And you've been through this
before when you're director of Pro player Personnel, when you're
(15:41):
with the Bills and you guys, uh drafted DJ Manuel.
When did you know that he didn't have what you
thought he needed to have to to be the long
time start to to hold onto the job. It's, first
of all, thanks for having me on and hopefully every
ends well with you. Um. It's one of those things
(16:03):
where when you're around a quarterback enough, especially when you've
been around some very successful quarterback, it becomes very evident
that he or that quarterback doesn't have the skill set
to take you where you want to go. Especially in
our situation with e J. We started to put a
(16:24):
bunch of pieces around him to say this will help
e J be better? Or and when you when that
was a mistake I made. And when you have to
put pieces around the quarterback to help the quarterback, then
you you don't have a quarterback. You need a quarterback,
and really good quarterbacks make all the pieces around them better. Right. Uh,
(16:47):
it's it's it's it's fasting. But I mean, like, because
I know a little bit about e J. Where like
if you meet him, you're blown away because a super
bright guy and very charming guy, right, and he looks
like everything about him like looks the park. There was
just something like in games, he wasn't that good like
that really, you know. So I just wonder when you
(17:09):
when you when you draft a guy and you feel
like you know a guy, if it takes you longer
to admit maybe he's not the guy you you obviously
and like you said, first of all, he's an incredible
human being when you meet him, he isn't I mean,
he's just everything you want as a quarterback. The thing
that kept coming up was his ability to understand the
(17:33):
nuances of the quarterback position, to be able to anticipate,
to be able to understand the coverages and be able
to say, Okay, that was there last time and they
fooled me, but this time I'm going to have to
do something different. So he was more of a programmed guy,
which when everything was perfect and the pocket was perfect
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and the coverage didn't change, he could make a throw.
When there was some adversity, not only on the field
but off the field. He got injured and it was
the first time he had to deal with an injury
and coming back from injury. I don't think he was
totally equipped to come back from that and keep progressing
to be able to be a suitable star starting quarterback. Now. Also,
(18:20):
we did overdraft him. If he was a third round pick,
he probably could still be in the league. But as
a first round pick to whom much has given, much
is expected, so a lot more was expected from them. Yeah,
and then you have to play him earlier than you
want to play him. Um, you know the owners sitting
there going, why don't you playing the guy you drafted
in the first round. The fans are saying you throw
them in there. You're like, that's why we didn't play him? Right?
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All right? What about what about Twa Kay who he
has shown the fortitude to come back from multiple injuries.
The last one was one that could have ended his career.
They're playing pretty well, they got a bye week, and
they just announced today we're gonna start to h what's
your reaction to Miami the timing of Miami's decision. I
think it's very surprising. Now. I mean, the one thing,
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like you said, they're playing well, they're winning games, So
it's it's very curious to insert him now because if
you look at let's say i'm the Homes, you have
a capable starter there with Fitzpatrick, a very smart crafty
bet that has accepted the role that he's the place keeper.
He could learn from that from Fits and you read
(19:25):
the stories and anytime Fitz comes off the sideline, he's
sitting there talking to to a breaking it down to him,
do this is what happened. That's what happened. That type
of stuff is invaluable. So but with that said, you've
been a player, and I've been a player before. There
must be something in practice that is making it undeniable
that he needs to be the starter, because you know,
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make no mistake, if he wasn't ready, those players in
that locker room would let it be known that this
is not the right move. And then lastly, it's very
curious that they're gonna have start his first start against
Aaron Donald. I mean, that's that's again curious. But there's
got to be something that we as the public aren't
pretty too, that is making that that decision, driving that decision. Yeah,
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it's it's interesting because originally that game was supposed to
be the Jets right play the Jets by So that's
why it made sense to me, like, yeah, dude, you
go against the Jets like that, that's the JV that's
like that's a good one. Um let me let me,
let me hypothesize for a second. I feel like this
entire thing is what they had planned, right Like, look, look,
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Chris Greer gets the job, and they're like, all right,
here's what we're gonna do. We want two is our guy,
and we're gonna sell off the other pieces that we
don't necessarily want or need because we're bad. We're gonna
start over. So Minca Fitzpatrick and Larrmy Tunsel they're gone.
They get picks back in return, they try to figure
out what they had, they did well in free agency,
well in the draft, and they end up two ends
up because of injury falling to them even though they
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don't get the number one pick. And my guests would
be this was the plan all along, off the bye week,
they would play him barring injury, and it just so
happens to be the ramps. Is that a possibility that
a team is so committed to a plan that they
don't care about the opponent? Absolutely? And the one thing though,
in in the NFL, the scary thing part is you
can have a plan, you just hope that you're stay,
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you're around to enact that plan. But that could be
a plausible reason why they're doing it now. And guess what,
the plan has worked so far, so might as well
stick with it. Um. Okay, So how much how much
can we blame the Cowboys coaching staff? And I'm not
sure if you're aware that that there's some report today
from James Slater that some players came out and said
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that they're not teaching us, they're not prepared. Meanwhile, you know, like, look,
I give at least the offense a bit of a
pass last night. You lose most of your line and
your quarterback. I don't know anybody who's gonna look good
against the legitimate team. But but the fact that the
defense is such a mess, how much of that is
on the players? How much of that is on the
coaching staff? Well? I look at it this way, and
(21:58):
when you're losing, everyone's got to be disgruntled. But the
alarming part is for the Blair players, they just don't
doesn't seem like they believe in the coaching staff or
the game plan. So it really has to we really
have to look at it as has the game. The
NFL game passed the Dallas Calibilities coaching staff by and
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all these reports that are coming out, you may have
to lean to that because very rarely, especially this early
in the season, are you're gonna have players coming out
and basically telling that our coaching staff isn't that. So
it's very alarming. And the players do have some culpability,
but they have some talent on that staff. They had
(22:44):
some injuries, but on that team, Uh, it's alarming. And
I'd have to say right now from from the reports,
you'd probably go sixty five coaching players. Yeah. No, I mean,
like looks the last night's perfect example. You bring in
a guy who knew age system, you know different, you
know air aide, air aide system. Mike Nolan's like old
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school NFL and and hadn't been a coordinated for several years.
That it feels a little bit. The Cowboys got this
a little bit with Monty Kiffin right where Monty Kiffin
he couldn't do it anymore, and he couldn't do it
at SC even because because because the game had changed
so much, his old tampature didn't work. And and Doug,
I don't know about the basketball, but in football there's
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a saying, why do you do it? Because we've been
done it? That way forever. Yes, Well, guess what now
the game has is starting to evolve. And I think
I've said this before, is football used to be. NFL
set everything in the football ecosystem, and it was a
trickle down effect. Anything the NFL did, everybody else trying
to learn. Well, now the roles are reversed, it's a
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trickle up effect. Things from college are starting to trickle
up into the NFL. So if you have these old
school guys that are resistant to change or evolution, the
game is just going to pass them. And I think
especially on defense, I think we're seeing that on the
Dallas Cowboys. Uh. This this is a great converse, saying
Doug Walley, joining his former general manager of the Buffalo Bills,
(24:09):
Doug gotlip show here on Fox Sports Radio. Um, let
me let me go to the Bills. Um, how the
knock on Josh Allen was accuracy and it still pops
up at sometimes when he just misses guys with that
with that big arm. But how have they been able
to kind of craft this thing to be more consecutively
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and consistently successful. I think you gotta look at Brian Dable.
I mean you you've got to look at the offensive
coordinator and the pieces that they put around him to
put him in positions to be successful. You saw Monday
night when he's got to sit back in that pocket
and be on the spot and try to go through
progressions that that's not where he's the most successful. The
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most successful when he's able to get something out quick
or on unscripted place where he's running around and he
that dual threat. So I think the dable is one
of the main reasons why they started so so hot.
But again, over time, guys that have lack of accuracy
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are going to regress to their means, and I think
we saw it last night and hopefully it doesn't keep
popping up for the rest of the year. Hopefully he
can bounce back to where where he played in the
first four games, but he's going to have games like
that because the accuracy is it's it's like a golf swing.
It's muscle memory. And if you have to go to
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a quarterback guru to get your feet right, in your
arm position right, and your arm slot right, that's going
to take time before it's become natural muscle memory. But
even even then, you still, like you said, you still
regrets to you get the game, Slippert, you still regrets
to the means happen with Lamar Jackson right where where
you know people are able to find out what throws
he doesn't make well and make him make those more often,
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and the accuracy issues that he had in college have
have have popped back up. Doug Waley, our guest on
The Gotlip Show. Conversely, you have Kansas City, and I
think to some people it was a whole hump. To me,
the way Buffalo played them is the same way the
Chargers played them, where you try to keep everything in
front and forced them these long drives and running the football.
The differences this year they can run the football. Is
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there any chance they're actually better than they were last season?
I would say yes. When you can have that balanced
attack where people can't make you one dimensional, and with
the weapons they have, and then you add Lady on
Bell in there, Oh man, that's that's gonna be a
special unit and it's gonna be a defensive coordinator's nightmare.
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You gotta pick your poison. What are you gonna play
cover too? And have them run the ball or have
them give up all shorts and then guess what they're
it's gonna be death by a thousand cuts, or do
you play man and come after them? And then it's
guess what, it's big place, so uh they're forced to
be reckoned with and it's uh, nothing I would want
(26:59):
to wish on my defensive coordinator. Who who are the
real Green Bay Packers? Weeks one through four or weeks six?
I would say weeks one through four. H You gotta
understand these players, they have sixteen maybe more days to
be on and to be on for that many times
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is very hard. And then you act not just one player,
but you've got to have fifty some players that have
to be playing at their best and having a good
day at the office. And it's hard to have a
good day at the office every day on your job.
I mean there's some days you probably say I didn't
wasn't up to part that day, but I did the
best I could. And there's other days like I nailed it. Well,
(27:46):
guess what, when you aren't up to part on the
football field, those things get exposed and it's just something
that makes it people understand. Hopefully they understand it is
very hard to win in the NFL. And then add
the fact that the other team they get paid to. Yeah,
they're health they're trying it to win as well well.
And and and they got what and their offense got
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what last time out too, So it wasn't like they
weren't motivated right right, right exactly. But if I'm betting
on anything, I'm betting on Aaron Rodgers. I'm I'm I'm
absolutely with you. Doug Walley joining us on the Doug
Gotlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio. UM, I felt
like Carson Wentz played really well. He's just between the
drops the offensive line issues like he's doing it. It's
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all smoking mirrors. Many have been critical of him trying to,
you know, kind of have to play hero ball. What's
what's your sense of the Eagles quarterback. I'm with you.
I'm a big Wins fan. And what I like about it,
which some people may be knocked and knocking him, is
this competitiveness. He knows he's playing with one hand tied
behind his back, with with the people that are around them,
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just because of injuries, but he's willing his team to
try to win. He's doing everything he can and in
his power, and to me, that is what you want
in your quarterback. He's trying to if no one else
around can make it happen, I'm going to take it
all myself to make this happen and will this team
(29:12):
to win. So sign me up. Yeah. What about Baker?
Baker feels like how you described e J. Well, he said,
if you got to put a bunch of people around him,
he probably not the guy. He's got a running game,
although they didn't have one against the Steelers. He's got
elite wide receivers. They went out and got him a
great pass catching tight end, and it feels like he's
holding them back. Is that a wrong way to read
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what what happened in Cleveland against Pittsburgh? Not at all.
And until he can answer that bell, that's the that's
what's gonna be his that's what's gonna be out there
on him. Um, when you make them one dimensional and
you make Baker Mayfield throw the ball, especially from the pocket,
that's when you're going to have the most successful him
(29:55):
and that's against him, and that's where his deficiencies will
be highlighted. Doug, awesome stuff man. Always great to have
you on. You are welcome any time. Thanks for joining
us on Fox Sports Radio. Appreciate me and stay healthy.
Say same to you. Doug Walley joining us a long
time member the front office of the Bills. He was
their general manager and of course joins us here on
the Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. Are the
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a couple of friends in the NFL like, Oh dude,
Doug Waley, great dude. Love hearing him on the radio.
(30:40):
I like that. Shout out to my NFL friends listening
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Trains can't pay for By Nitza, Let's get what now?
(31:06):
Ship and Sharp on Under Speed talking about the Chief's
offense and Pat Mahomes they put on the clinic. Um
it was hilarious. Is taking the road. Jones appro Skip, Oh,
y'all got side Leonard for he's gonna get no carriage,
y'all side to leave y'all Bill, he gonna get the carriage.
I'm gonna I'm gonna make you. I'm gonna make you.
Y'all remember that you took me in the first round.
And I can run the football. They ran the football
(31:28):
with conviction thirty seven minutes time of possession. That's what
they owned. And as Jenny mentioned in and the read
is that Pat Mahomes was Patrick, Mom doesn't want you
to call him pack. My homeboy was one twenty six
to five and two touchdowns. Well, he didn't have to
do a whole lot as far as throwing the football
(31:48):
because they were running the football so effectively. But on
third down, Skip, they were nine A nine A fourteen
on third din one for one on fourth down. And
you see what my Homes can do with his legs.
Skip that some plays that you know they're they're only
up six and Buffalo had gotten momentum. If he doesn't
scramble out of the pocket and complete this past the pringle,
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who knows what would have happened? What we'll never know.
And there's one they hadn't pinned on the side. Lad Skill,
He's about to throw, and he realized he's passed the
lot of scrimmage. He backs up, looked like he's about
to throw the kid and then didn't. I Like, why
when you get that fro, it's over Skill, it's over. Yeah, Yeah,
he's We've never seen anybody. We've never seen anybody in
(32:31):
a complete package like business. He's an unbelievable player. I
would say this in regards to Levian Bell. When you
when you signed a guy, he has to be in
quarantined for six days. He's not. Plus, I'm gonna also
warn people, I don't believe that Levian Bell will ever
be what Levian Bell was. I don't The Jets tried
it last year. It didn't work. They wouldn't. They wouldn't
(32:53):
have paid all that money for him to leave if
they had thought there was any chance of him getting
back to the other level. And I don't think he
had many opportunities because everybody's seen the tape and he
didn't look like the old Levy on Bell, which is
the same thing as Leonard Fournette. Like, why wouldn't Leonard
Fournett get the ball? Like, don't you think if that
he had juice in the tank they would give it
to him? Of course they would. When you can't play,
(33:14):
you can't run anymore, and you can't run period, stop
and the story and Leonard Fournette is hasn't had nearly
the use. I believe that Levian Bell hasn't didn't miss
the year. When you miss a year, it actually set
you back. People think that it somehow resets your your timeline,
but it doesn't, not not in in any way. Um,
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I don't think it was a clinic yesterday. I think
they they've they're starting to take into account how everybody
plays them, you know, and people are just we're not
gonna let Tyreek Hill beat his deep. We're not gonna
get beat on this big chunk place. We're not gonna
do what what Baltimore did for the most part during
the game, which is try and pressure you and make
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pat Mahomes make plays because he can test his patients,
test the team's patients. And the truth is that even
though the Chiefs are better than the Bills, and Mahomes
is better than Josh Allen, Bills are very much in
that game with that style of defense. My guess is
this is why they bought in Levian Bell. They know
they're gonna have to run it more. They don't want
their rookie running back to just get beaten up. They
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know they're gonna have to dink and dunk their way
at down the field because people are gonna take away
what they do best, which is those big chunk plays.
Say so, it makes for boring watches, but it's still
gonna be successful, and I would say the completion percentage
will go up. Are we're what what time is the
game tonight? The Major League game? The five o'clock? Uh,
(34:46):
five eleven. Michael Moville has come up with five eleven.
That's the exactly we gotta have it a money If
I have eleven is the exact time. But if I
have eleven, one the greatest of the watching party from
Tampa to l A, the Dodgers to God, the breath
throughout the Rays. I guess they figure if it's five,
you'll get there too late. So they want you to
(35:07):
have that eleven minutes to kind of like sit down
or you know, you know, you know, no, I don't,
I don't know specifically, but generally they want to they
need to win the quarter and half hours, and this
is a way to get them to win the most
quarter half hours and hours. So if they you start
at five eleven, you win the five o'clock and it
(35:29):
probably I would guess that they're guessing it goes until
eight thirty West Coast time, which takes it to eleven thirty, which,
oh yeah, by the way, helps their nightly news numbers
as well as you get that kind of overflow crowd
into it. So even if you technically lose money on
the actual event, the local affiliates make money because they
(35:50):
get a bigger audience leading into their nightly news than
they normally get. So I that would be that would
be my guess as to why they do five eleven Bye.
What do you think you worked in TV A lot?
Is that a that a reasonable guest to have? Sure? Sure,
you know a lot of In the old time in radio,
(36:12):
the baseball game would start at seven oh five because
you would have news reports at the top of the hour,
and then you would do the news report and then
you could go into the to the ball game seven
oh seven oh five. I had a funny on Twitter,
and I want to see if you guys thought it
was funny on Twitter. Do you guys see the stories
kind of a crazy one where two Russian planes were intercepted,
(36:33):
um the US fighter jets intercept Russian bombers near Alaska.
So you guys tell me which one you like best?
Putin throwing picks like Aaron Rodgers on Sunday two at
a time like that one? Okay? Or or did Goose
and Mav take a picture now that that's a that's
a top gun reference. I don't expect Dan Buyer to
get I'll go by John's laugh and say that go
(36:56):
with the second one. Did you like the first one
or not? I did? I just thought was a little
too long, you know, a little need a little puncher,
just like well you were to say, like Aaron rod
you know Aaron Rodgers esk, Yeah like that, Yeah, yeah,
I guess when you have to explain the jokes and
the jokes, but it's also taking a shot at your
(37:17):
boy to like if it was a Jamis Winston one,
then I think it would just roll off. Not that
I'm the comedy master, but I don't know. Boys, he's
going to the McAfee all the time. Now it just
comeing out of me. Like I don't know, we we
we you know, like I thought we were good. I
just want to make sure we're good. I have no idea.
By the way, Goose and Maverick converted themselves correctly. They
were inverted when they took the picture of the inverted
(37:39):
themselves inverted. Yes, well that's classified. Sorry, that's that's that.
That's classified. It's a famous scene from the first Top
Gun the new Top Gun. What was supposed to come
out last time this summer? When's it coming out? Who knows?
Who knows? Who knows? Uh, it's a case of David
versus Goliath, and I'm taking Goliath. I'll tell you why next.
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