October 21, 2020 • 37 mins
Doug discusses the criticism Baker Mayfield has received despite the Browns being 4-2 so far and how he can move past it. Former QB and FOX Sports analyst Brady Quinn joins the show to preview the kick off of BIG 10 football.
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a metric ton to get to. Let's let's start with this.
Last night the Dodgers, the Dodgers dominated the Tampa Bay Rays,
and I told you that I was personally cheering for
Clayton Kershaw, and like, look, I'm not trying to be
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one of these guys that that is in denial of
what Kershaw had failed to do previously. Like Kershaw, it
has not been give me the ball. I'm gonna give
you a nine. I'm gonna have a complete game and
just wipe out. He's not black Jack McDowell, right, That's
not who he is. Last night, Clayton Kershaw six innings,
pitched one earned run, He had eight strikeouts. There was
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nothing flukey about it. The only earned run was a
solo home run. You know, he was a little tight
to start, but look atst the World Series and we
know what he's up against. He gets out of it,
it goes down here. Look, we've seen this two thousand
and seventeen against the Astros, Game one, seventings, pitch one
er and run two thousand eighteen NLCS Game seven against
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the Brewers nine UH ninth inning he came in. He
struck out too no hits. A matter of fact, in
Clayton Kershaw's playoff career, he has thirteen stars where he's
given up two or fewer runs. He he only has
six starts when he's given up five or more runs.
And every time it's been after the fifth inning. He's tired,
he's fatigued, and and not all the not all the
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runs are truly his right reliever comes in inherits, the
run blows up, blows up the guys on base, you know,
end up going to the credit of Clayton Kershaw. So
I'm not gonna sit here and try and tell you
Kershaw has been a great postseason player the way that
Smoltz has or Madison bum Gardener has or uh Kurt
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Schilling has. Right Like, I'm I'm not gonna lie to
you that way, but i will tell you that, Look,
there's no more pressure than pitching in the in the
World Series, and as a starter Game one two thousand seventeen,
he was money. Two thousand twenty, he's been money He's
had some high pressure situations like Game four the NLDS
against the Mets where he gave up just one or
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and run over seven innings. He's shown us the ability
to pitch in pressure pack situations. And yeah, he hears you.
It's not great, it's not fun, But that doesn't mean
that he's not a that's like Cody Bellinger. We do
this limited sample size thing all the time right where
Cody Bellinger. If you ask somebody right now, did Cody
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Bellinger have a good have a good year? You were like,
hell yeah. See the home Runne hitting seven, See the
home Runnie hitting Game one? He had a great year. Robins.
You watch every Dodger game, literally every Dodger game. What
kind of year to Cody Bellen? Draft not a defending,
naturally gam VP year. I can tell you that I
felt like he was a flash in the pan from
last year. Correct, felt like people adjusted to him. Now
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it was only sixty games. It was shortened, you know,
and the lineup changed. Everything changed, especially when you add
Mookie Mookie to the light of right. Chris Taylor had
been their leadoff hit her before. Now now Mookies are
lead off hitter. So like things. Things have changed. They
developed greater depth. Corey Singers totally back now from uh
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Tommy John of two years ago, and he's probably their
second best player to Mookie and maybe even their best
player of course is a big time player. They got
dudes now. My point is we have a tendency to
make these bold statements used upon what somebody does in
the height of and the hype of the playoffs, and
that's not always who they are, even in the playoffs,
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even in pressure pack situations. I don't think the pressure
got to Kershaw previously. I think fatigue got to him,
and that that's my story and I'm sticking to it
because I think if pressure got to him, then pressure
would have gotten to him last night, and would have
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gotten to him in two thousand seventeen Game one, and
would have gotten to him, you know when he pitched
against the Medicine Game five of the DS like those
that didn't get to him then. So I don't think
he's been nearly in every stat would take nearly as
good as the dominant regular season picture that over the
last decade, he's widely been considered the best National League picture,
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maybe the best picture in baseball over that entire span.
Has he been that good in the playoffs? No, but
last night was a huge step in shut everybody. I'll
be like, look, I don't even have my best stuff anymore.
I don't throw mid the upper nineties, but I'm a pitcher,
not a thrower, and I can still find ways to
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make you make your head spin and make your bat miss.
My my, my ball. He's not He's more like Clayton Manning.
All right, That's what I've considered. He's like Clayton Manning.
When he wins the title, he'd be like, you know,
Peyton Manning wasn't as good in the big games, in
the clutch maybe as some of the other quarterbacks, but
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he was a great quarterback. And some of that is
also the makeup of his team. That his team is
so widely dependent upon him, saying Clayton Kershaw, all these
teams have been dependent upon him to win them the
big game. You can't get another arm like I gotta
be the arm to save the day every single time.
That's how Peyton Manning was until his last year where
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he wasn't very good in the Broncos carried him this year.
I think it is kind of a mix where he
is good, not the greatest pitcher in baseball, but the
team is very good and they can carry him. But
he can also shut people down by being a starting,
starting pitcher. I don't think he was truly a choker before,
but there wasn't enough big time, big game, postseason success
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to go like, yeah, those are the exception, this is
a norm. But now the more data you acquire, and
especially as well as he pitched last night, it does
feel like a little bit more like it's the norm Alright,
coming up next year on the Doug Golip Show on
Fox Sports Radio. You know it's interesting. Um, I think
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I know what has to happen with Baker Mayfield in
order from the Browns to be successful. I'll share that
with you up coming next be sure to catch the
live edition of The Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at
three pm Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
the I Heart Radio. Ah app Um, here's the thing.
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I have friends that say, look, if you look at
the meltdowns on social media, a good portion of them
or women, because social media, especially Twitter, is straight up
evil in terms of what people say. Because they're just
like I can just say whatever, but I can just
say whatever. What. What's always amazed me about these a
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holes on social media with the slide into your Instagram
is like, how whatever level of offense they take to
what you say there, there's no there's nothing stopping them
from saying anything that they want to say, right Like,
they'll they'll just make the most vile comments that are
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clearly and quite obviously offensive, but it's in their their
defensive is it. Well, I was offended by what you said,
so I can say something that is highly and way
more offensive, like, yeah, that's not actually how it works,
you know. And I think there's an amount of there's
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an amount of empathy that most women have that guys
have empathy, but they're not as empathetic. Um. And I
also think that women take things to heart, the mean
things you say. It's like, you know, when guys talk trash,
talk trash, and not every girl is against talking trash
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like you. I have a daughter who she can hang,
she'll talk trash with the rest of us. But I
have another daughter who you say something to her and
she takes it as a personal offense. And you know,
I look at social media and Baker Mayfield's wife is
quoted as saying that she's very close to losing it
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over people and the things that they've said over social media.
Baker has said this, and the criticism he's taken in
national media, I don't give it in what they say,
Bakerfield said after loss four and too never felt so
much like oh and six, But his confidence hasn't taken
a hit. This was Kevin Stefanski on Baker's commons, specifically
to what Baker was a firm. Maybe he felt the
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mood on the zoom call. Maybe, but I can promise
you in here we're ready to go. We're ready to
put the work in to try and go one and know.
And I think it was Parcels who said you are
what your record he says, you are correct. Look I
said this about I mean even if Odell Beckham Jr.
Was frustrated Baker And that's why I took off his
shoes in his helmet, like, look, dude, we're four and two?
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Put your how many shoes back on, going to the the
locker room, getting the planes, fly home to watch some films,
figured out let's fix things. I am both a I'm
a realist and a fan of Baker Mayfield. I'm realistic
in that I just don't think he has. Everybody talks
about intangibles. He's got intangibles. His issue has been the
tangibles and the understanding of what those tangibles are. He's
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just not a big guy, non athletic guy. He's got
a good arm, but it's not like he's got Matt
Stafford or Aaron Rodgers or Pat Mahomes arm. He's a
good enough athlete for regular human being, but it's not
like he's a freak like Russell Wilson, Lamar Jackson and
some of those guys. He's just not Josh Allen. That
sounds a freak, throws at eighty something yards, can run
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big and strong. He's none of those things. He he
has quality intangibles, but those intangibles sometimes can get marginalized
if you have too much pride, if you take people's
um and if you you take people's negative comments to heart,
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you just can't. You're not the only thing that wins
people is winning games, and even that it's not gonna
win some people. So my advice to Baker would be
to not only stay out of social media, but keep
your wife off social media. People are evil. What is
the winning going on there? What is it? What? What
is the win? You know, I got people chasing something
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I did twenty five years ago that I could not
possibly care any less about. It doesn't affect my daily
life at all. Nobody's life's affected, especially the idiots who
trolled me on Twitter. But and I understand you read
it and you think, like, hey, I was popular five
minutes ago and now I'm not none you can control.
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
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gott Leap Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific.
That's crazy with Pat Chambers because he had kind of
survived the past two years when people thought he was
gonna be fired like a year and a half ago,
and they made a they were good last year and
last year they were good even though they it was
um I think it was Raji Bolton or a Seer
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Bolton who left and went to Iowa State and made
some accusations about the program that we're not flattering. And
obviously my guests would be that there's some sort of
either proof or some sort of smoking gun that led
to Pat Chambers outstair. I like, you don't, you don't
resign on October one, when the season is going to
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start in one month. Unless some sort of investigation came down.
I'll have some news in the press as well about
how the Big West is handling their basketball schedule, which
is somewhat unique. But what we're going to have in
this COVID day and age of college hoops. But do
you mind if we talk about it right now, is
we're waiting for very quition. Okay, So the Big West
gonna play twenty league games for people don't know, the
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Big West is mostly California schools, with the exception of Hawaii.
So what are they gonna do with Hawaii? Um? Not necessarily,
uh sure yet, but I don't know if they would
just fly over. I think they fly over and play
a bunch of games. I'll have to I can text
their coach, he's a friend of mine. Um. That's so
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basically all they're doing is conference games. All they're during
his conference games. In the conference games would be held
on a Friday and Saturday. You'd basically playing the same
opponent on back to back days, is my understanding. So
you would have a game on Friday, for example. Let's
just take uh you know, see Sun against Long Beach State.
They would play on Friday, they would play on Saturday
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in the same gym that they played both days, and
that would be there, I guess two matchups that they
would have for the season. What do you think, I
I it's you know, for that's how you got to
do it. That's how you get through it. And you know,
for a conference like that, I I mean, if you
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can't have fans, I don't know, you know how much.
I'm not privy on how much TV money, but it's
gonna be a one big, you know league anyway. Um, yeah,
you gotta do it. I've always thought that the PAC
twelve scheduling, the way that they've done it, because of
how the schools are set up, was always a very unique. Yeah.
This so for people don't know the PAC twelve, they
do what's called travel partners. So USC and u c
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l A, Oregon, organ State, You, Stanford, cal Uh, Utah,
Colorado are are the only ones that are like, you know,
far away from each other. Washed Washington states pretty far
away from each other. Um, and that's actually a really
tough trip, as is Colorado Utah because when you go
to play Oregon State, everybody stays at the Valley River
in both teams and oftentimes they used to because they
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used to always play Thursday and Saturday. The teams used
to fly up together. Right, they go and they get
to l A, and they fly in like a Southwest
flight to Eugene, and they stay in Eugene at the
Valley River in and one would play Oregon and forty
five minutes away is Organ State, and then they both
stay there right and and then after Saturday night's game
and they both fly back and they actually there's teams
that have chartered together to do that. UM. Now it's
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a little different because now some teams playing on Wednesday,
some playing on Thursday, some are Saturday, some are Sunday.
But you do, you do your travel partner and it
generally works. And when they were going to expand the
league a long time ago, there was hoped that it
would be San Diego State in un O v as
travel partners that didn't work, UM or maybe a b
y U in a Utah would have been better than
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Colorado and Uyu, but they didn't want a religious school
in the mix with the with the with the public
of the private schools. Anyway, But how's the pactol of
doing it this year with schedule we don't know yet, right, Yeah,
if they did, it's just done at the on the
top of my uh, on the top of the brain.
Big West would start they're back to back games, uh,
the weekend right after Christmas or December, and you would
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be able to have non conference games from November up
until that point. But then when they get into season,
there would be one bye week built in. But even
if a game had to be canceled or postponed, they
wouldn't reschedule it because of COVID. Alright, let's welcome in,
Brady Quinn. Of course you can see on the big
Name kickoff as we're getting ready to watch Big Ten
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football Nebraska and Ohio State. Um. Brady, let's let's start
with with last weekend. Um, your thoughts on Alabama Georgia,
now that we've had a chance to catch our breath. Well,
my initial thoughts are like, A, looked this. Uh there's
one of two things that's happening at Alabama. Either we're
just full on seeing the transition of uh just college
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offense is having a hard time adapting to these explosive offenses. Uh.
It's either of that, and and maybe we're just gonna
see Alabama struggle to play good defense rest of the
year or just earlier in the season, and everyone's still
kind of working out the kinks on that side of
the ball, and there really is no home toild advantage,
you know, because most stadiums aren't able to be a
full capacity. But also the other side of that conversation, though,
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is Georgia's good football team. I think they'll continue to
get better as the year goes on, right, I mean,
Stepson Bennett wasn't the start up to begin the season.
It's always toughen you have these quarterback battles, you know,
like the Big Ten start up this week. There's a
number of teams that have like a four way quarterback
battle going in the season, and I'm thinking to myself, like,
how the hell do you get any guy prepared to
be the starter if you've got four or three guys
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competing for it. So I think Bennett in this offense
for Georgia will continue to get better. And as for Alabama,
it's really focusing on that defense and how they can
kind of kind of improved, because I don't think there
is count that as they as they've been in years past.
Brady Quinn joining us in the Doug Otlip Show on
Fox Sport Tradeo. Notre Dames look good not. I mean,
they weren't great last weekend obviously, and they ranked inside
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the top five. You know how it works with Notre Dame.
Everyone's in denial of how good or how town clay
shape Chase Claypool can go and dominate with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
But people think that Notre Dame doesn't have dudes. Obviously,
the offensive line is produced guy after guy after guy.
What's your sense of the Irish now at about the
quarter pole of the season. Well, let's not forget. You
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know they lost Claypool was a leading rode receiver last year.
That's cool. Commatti was the best tight end last year.
So that you know they're they're a team that's still
in transition too, and I think part of that. You know, offense,
that chemistry was obviously impacted by COVID, and if you're
looking at this group this year, you know last week
they made a concentrated effort at trying to get Javon McKinley,
the football kind of him being that that player where
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when isolated they'd like to take one on one opportunities
didn't work out. You know, that's still a work in progress. Um.
You know, Bryant's another player to keep an Onye on
number four for Notre Dame. I think, as you know
he continued to get more comfortable the offense, he might
emerge that big play receiver as well as Brandon Lindsay.
But the tight ends gonna Michael Mayer, that kid is
a freak, and you know he might not be up
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there along with the Kyle Pitts or Brevin Jordan's. Um,
you know, looking at Miami's tight end and Florida's tight end,
but he will be there at some point. I mean,
he'll be the next grade one. And so look, I
think they're still a work in progress. They're gonna have
to get to go on there this week because just
Pitt the good defensive team, their offensive line will be
challenged this This is the best team at rushing the
past in the country talking about pit. So I don't
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think they're just gonna be able to run the football.
I think they're going to have to be able to
brow to the football effectively versus one of the better
defenses in a sec you know, I talked about this
with Joel Klatt earlier in the week, and you know,
people forget when Deshaun watching his last year at Clemson
in the regular season, he tried to show everybody how
he could throw it from the pocket, and it led
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to kind of an up and down final sason when
he threw a lot of interceptions. Then they got to
the College while playoff and he got back to being
old DeShawn Watson. We ran and he threw it, did
a little bit everything, and they won the championship. Um,
I look at at Ohio State and you have a
quarterback who's come back in justin fields and he's got
a chance to be, if not the number one, maybe
the number two pick in the draft. Do you think
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he proved plays in a way in which he tries
to prove to people that he's more than than a
running quarterback, that he can be more of a pocket quarterback. Well,
the interesting thing is watching him last year, they were
so concerned about him getting hurt that they really didn't
run him much early on, Like when he took off,
there was a past play and the red sea parted
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or it was sprinkling in as they got more comfortable
towards the end of the season or kind of needed
two at times. So I actually think that's something that
they may feel more comfortable now doing this year, just
because they got a little bit more experience and some
the backups behind him. Um, but I mean that was
more of a product of that last year, and I
think as he as the season went on, he just
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got better and better as a pocket passer. So I
don't only have many concerns or you know, worries about
him needing to prove himselves as that. Uh. And that's
the part because if you look at the Ohio State
kind of lineage to Dwayne Haskins for example, was a
first round pick largely a pocket passer. I mean, it's
not like they haven't produced those sorts of products. So
I would know that people are looking at justin Fields
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and saying, you know, he needs to show he can
play from the pocket. I think actually the exact opposite now,
especially look at the NFL. Most of these NFL teams
are saying like, yeah, we need a guy who's mobile,
a guy who can break tackles and play outside the
pocket because it's getting harder and harder to protect these
guys on a consistent basis, and we can actually make
guys better quote unquote pocket passers with different things we
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do to scheme things up and to help give them
easy completions. So I don't I don't really see that
as a big conserver justin field this year. Doug got
leave show here on Fox Sport Trader. That's the voice
of Brady Quinn. What are we going to see from Nebraska?
You know they added you talk about a quarterback battle.
Adrian Martinez is going to get the start, but they
might have a two headed monster there, change coordinators, you know,
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they they've gone off to slow starts. They have this
ridiculous back to back Ohio State Penn State just to
start the season. What do you think we see from
the Big Red to start the year. That's the biggest
question mark, and I'm really not sure what to expect.
I mean going into this game. One of the things
we kind of talked about preparing, you know, for this game,
for our big new kickoff shows. You know, what do
you want to talk about? And I'm like, you know,
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I kind of have some questions a little high to state,
but really to meet this skame is more about like
what is Nebraska like Are they going to be able
to get back to a team that I think two
years ago we looked at when Scott Frost had first
gotten there and we kind of said, all right, there's
a lot of promise or hope with this program, the
return of the prodigal son, and they've done nothing but
kind of go backwards. Adan Martinez didn't continue to develop
the way he thought he would, really forcing the football
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time and making some really bad decisions, and defensively they
only got worse. So you know that they made a
change there, and I think that's gonna be the challenge
is it could look really, really ugly. And it's a
little unfair to Nebraska because it's you know, the first
game and the unprecedented year, but also you're taking on
our one of the best teams in the country. In
my opinion, they're probably a top three team next Alabama Clemson,
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and so I'm not sure that's a fair evaluation. But man,
you know, it is interesting though, like this matchup, Doug,
these two teams are like the two that pushed the
most to bring Big ten football back, and so I
do kind of find ironic that they like scheduled him
to play of the first week of this whole thing,
and then there could really be a star contrast between
how pot these teams look, no, no question about it.
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Um how save this, Tom Todd Herman, you think, Tom Herman,
you think that's a great question. There's a lot of
football left to be played. Here's here's what they have
going for them right now is they could still exactically
make it to the Big Twelve. Right They've got to
play Iowa State later on, which Iowa State's kind of
louder in the clubhouse right now in the Big Twelve,
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like they dropped the game to begin the season. Definitely
a nonconference play, but they've been undefeated so far in
conference plays. So if if they can beat Iowa State,
you know they're gonna have the edge over them. And
then you just kind of have to see you got
Oklahoma State as well, that they had to play on
the road, you know at Oklahoma State, and maybe and
then they've got obviously you know, beat them by the
table with them, but there's still an outside side they
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could win the Big twelves. That would go a long
way I think and changing the perception. But I mean,
they've got to figure out a way of playing better defense.
At this point, you know, they made the almost wholesale
changes and if Chris Ask doesn't serve things up, you know,
at some point though, you gotta hold Tom Herman accountable
and get their offense. But yeah, I mean, I mean,
I just I I It's like everybody thinks they should.
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But it's like like, look, Texas Tech should have beaten him,
they didn't TCU. It's not like this is a great
TCU squad does beat him? Got Oklahoma again, not a
great Oklahoma team, And I get that. Name wise, Look
Oklahoma State, if they get Spencer standards back like that,
that's a team that could that should very well be
favored over you, especially you're playing at home. And then
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you know there's no walks in the park really outside
of the Kansas game. Um, you know when you lose,
when you lose the TU Yeah, I mean no, And
they should have lost a Tech and she lost Slack.
So that's that's the tough part. Is it all depends
on how they finish out and if they can get
to the Big Talk Championship game with it that I
will come forget some of these these early blitz But
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I mean the question. Well, it's not Tom Herman. It's
like the Big Twelve right now. I think they are
are already setting themselves up to be kind of a
forgotten conference And we haven't even started Big Ten or
Packed Twelve play so far. And I think we we
you know, almost opening the door for the potential chance
of the SEC getting too and automatically just because of
how far how bad the Big Twelve looks so far. Yeah,
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I mean that first weekend was an abject, abject disaster,
regardless of you know, if you're playing with backups or
how many suspended guys you have because of COVID or whatever. Uh,
It's it's crazy. Um, what about the Pack twelve, Like
we're still waiting, they haven't played long enough to wait
for the Big Ten. Do we do we consider do
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we consider them players in this whole discussion, um the
other back to the conference and the players coaches involved. Yeah,
we can say that, I really don't know, given the
late start, the amount of games on the player, who
knows if they can even finish out you know, the
Big Ten, the pact to all of the way they
set this whole thing up, there's really no room for
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you know, air or postponements, right, And so I honestly
don't really think they are. Um maybe if they have
an undefeated team and things go hey wire in the
SEC or a SEC or even the Big Ten with
you know COVID and how some of these teams end
up playing out. But if they get a undefeated organ,
undefeated USC, who knows how it's going to pan out,
that would be the only sin there in which I
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think they would have even a shot. But right now,
I just think the perception of the Pack twelve. And
this really started to me with the very first college
football Playoffs season when they took on Ohio State. In
Ohio State absolutely just you know, brutalize them and beat
them up on both sides of the ball. Like I
don't know that they ever really overcame that and that
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perception in the entire college football world, like they just
they don't have the ability to compete upfront on the
line of scrimmage, on it on neither side of the ball.
And you know, you're not seeing that that's huge rush
of NFL talent coming out of the pactualve anymore. They're
having a little bit hard time recruiting with the exception
of your organs. So right now, it's it's all perception
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right now, I think with the College Football Well Committee
and with the patrol starting as late as they are,
they're already starting behind the eight ball in my opinion,
even if there was a team that you know goes undefeated.
Let me let me ask you about the NFL Brady
Queenn joining us. You know, I see him Big New
and Kickoff. Also listen to them on Fox Sports Trade
on the weekends with Jona Snocks. Uh, they are not related.
It only feels like they're brothers. Um. I want to
(27:40):
ask you about to a kind of weird right, Like
we knew Fits was eventually gonna be sent to the bench,
but he actually played well. Granted's the Jets bye week.
Fits seemed surprised by it. They choose to go at
to h this early into a season where they could
make the playoffs. What's your reaction. Well, first off, now
that we hear more about how it was handled, I'm
(28:00):
not a fan of that. I mean, it's man like
the fact that they made this decision in the room
and someone went out and leaked it to the media,
and Brian Forrest isn't talking too fits directly on the
phone right after that meeting. It's disrespectful considering what he's
done so far to help, you know, give them a
chance and winning football games and just be the good,
good leader of the good veteran in the locker room
and helped bring this culture along. So I hate to
(28:22):
hear that. I think the interesting thing about all this
is we kept hearing like this is about two and
once he's ready, when is he ready? I don't see
that being the case. I actually see this being about
the team and when the team around him was ready.
And I think they are looking at the fact that,
all right, our schedule got jacked up because of COVID.
We now go by we have two weeks to prepare
for the Rams. Why not go ahead and just give
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him those two weeks to prepare. Our offensive line is
greatly improved. We've got these receivers in Parker who has
become our number one guy, consistently preston wins zone target
all they're tight ends have pitched in between Ghasecki, h Durham,
spite at the Adam Shaheen and fourth flot guy. Team
grants their gadget guys, so they all have their roles,
and they're and and they're playing better on that side
(29:06):
of the ball and defensively starting to become opportunistic. So
why not then insert him at a time in which
your five, you feel like your team is in a
good spot. You know, see if he can maybe take
you even further, but at least get some of that
experience to really prepare for being a more true contender.
I think that's more of the logic behind it. If
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you were the Jets and you've got a chance of
Trevor Lawrence, would you move off of Sam and Donald?
The tough part about answer that question is, you know,
I don't know who the head coaches, who the general manager,
is the way this whole thing is moving. I mean,
you know, look, Joe Douglas has no ties to Sam Donald, right,
He just got there this year, So technically, you know,
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if you wanted to, you could easily make that excuse
and trade him, get whatever you can for him, and
then draft Trevor Lawrence. Uh, if Adam Gates is there,
you kind of wonder if he would make the same decision,
But you know, he took this job when Sam Donald's
the quarterback, So you have to anticipate that he was
thinking like this is part of the plan of helping
to improve them. So that's kind of one conversation, like
I need to know where the Jets are first before
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we can really answer them. But I will say this
about Trevor Lawrence is whoever is number one? I mean,
I gotta be as there's not too many teams right now.
It's out of like Seattle, which they're not gonna be
number one. Can't say it's not gonna be number one,
Baltimore is not gonna be number one. I mean, there's
there's only a handful of teams that I think if
you had that number one pick that wouldn't order trade
out of it, not take Trevor Lawrence. And he is
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the best prospect that I've seen in my lifetime. And
so yeah, you can easily see a scenario where the
New York Jets end up moving on from Donald and
drafting number one one overall if they're in that spot.
But I can tell you this much, I feel like
the Jacksonville jack choirs right now that might be the
biggest Jet fan base you've ever seen, because they're hoping
to win one or two games so that they can
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have that spot and they can take Trevor Lawrence. Awesome
stuff that. That's the voice of Brady Queening here on
weekends on Fox Sports Trading. Of course you see him
on Big Neon Kickoff getting ready for Nebraska, haven't know
how state first Big ten game of the year. Of
course you can see it on Fox this Saturday. Brady,
thanks so much for joining us. Always have a great day, dude.
Pleasures all my By the way, there's a Friday night
(31:11):
Big ten game. Want to make sure I kind of
correct my it's the big first Saturday Big Ten. Whatever
you get it, you get I think you get it.
Don't you get it? I got some good Michael Jordan,
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get to the press. The press by can't buy what
he got Doug we starting the National Football League ESPN
reporting that the Seahawks are interested in signing wide receiver
Antonio Brown. The c X would be one of a
(31:53):
few teams interested in Brown wants his suspension ends after
Week eight of the NFL season. You are s Hawk
fan and you are against them picking him up. Yes,
I am, I am, just you don't want to say
in the apple Cart. Well, they they've signed Josh Gordon,
as I mentioned earlier, they're still waiting for him to
be reinstated. You've Russell Wilson has been magnificent. To your point,
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I don't know why you would throw Antonio Brown now
into the mix when the passing game seems to be,
you know, the best part of what they're doing this
season because he's good. Sure, sure, but how much of
the growth are you getting as opposed to maybe possible
chemistry problems. I get it, But apparently there's chemistry between
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he and Russell Wilson having worked together so worked out together,
which I'm sure as a plant from his agent whatever,
and Pete has dealt with difficult guys in the past. Um. Yeah,
that that's that's an interesting one. Where else would you
see him going? Who is in dire need? You know?
You would think Antonio Brown wants to go to a
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competitive a team that can play bucking here have been
ruled out. I think you have to have you have
to have a quarterback that Brown would respect enough like
he did in New England with Brady for that game
that he played. I think the options. You know, New Orleans,
you know that could be a spot Michael Thomas's situation,
(33:18):
by the way, with the Saints, but they already have
an issue with Michael Thomas. I know, by the way,
it's gonna be a separate story. Sean Payton said the
punishment for punching a teammate over, but wasn't clear if
Thomas was gonna be able to play in Week seven
against Carolina. Members of the media who saw the open
portion of practice saw Thomas on the field and then
saw him leave and didn't see him for the rest
(33:40):
of practice. So I'm not sure necessarily what's going on
with Michael Thomas in New Orleans. The news that I
just told you a little while ago, Pat Chamber stepping
down as the head coach at Penn State after nine
seasons now being revealed there was an internal investigation into
the topics. I believe that we talked about Doug so
that could be the reason why Chamber stepped out. So
Racier Bolton is the former point guard. He started as
(34:02):
a freshman, and apparently there's a comment made about I
don't want you to play like there's a noose around
your neck or whatever, and Racier took it to being
racially in charge and sensitive. You know, it feels like
a misinterpretation because it was again and this is when
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you when you read things. The idea was I want
you to play free. I just don't know you wouldn't
play like this is not that hard, guys, it's not
that hardy, Like I want you to play free. I
don't want you to play like yeah, we used to
call it one eye. Can't play one eye on the bench.
I need you to play free, have fun, understand what
we want you to do, like no racially charged commentary,
(34:48):
no commentary about somebody's parents or their sexual orientation, like
this ain't that hard. We we act like this is
an old school versus new school, Like no, it's not
just common sense school. And I like pat Um a
little culty, the way he coached, in the way it
was some of the things they did and they saw,
you know, they won over sixty games the last three years.
And for if you've ever been in Penn State, that's
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nothing short of outstanding. But still the timing tells you
that this was whatever they investigated it on, uncovered some
bad stuff. Michael Jordan's spoke with Cigar Aficionado and said quotes,
I have no patience for coaching. For me to ask
an individual to focus on the game the way I
played the game in some ways would be unfair for
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that kid that would have to endure that. Michael Jordan's saying, Yeah,
for all he's done, he could never be a coach. Yeah,
there's no way. I mean, of the great players, I
think Larry Bird has been the only one who is
a really good coach, right, Yeah, And Larry Bird he
as good a coach he was. He hired an offensive
and defensive coordinator, right, You hired Rick Carlisle and Johnny
(35:53):
Bach and Dick Harter those were his That's actually a
guy's name. Just so you know, I'm not making it up.
He's a very well respecting you and it's with a T, right, yes,
Hart Stan Van Dundee will be the new head coach
of the New Orleans Pelicans, getting a four year ramos.
That's his name, Dick Hart. Right. Do you know what
(36:16):
Sam Donald's grandpa's name is uz No, what is it?
You don't remember? His grandpa is one of the old
no original Marlboro man. Oh I didn't. Arnold Donald would
have been great that no no, no, no no no,
no no no. Dick Hammer. Dick Hammer, Yes, that's Dick Hammer.
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Was like this freak athlete and he became the Marlborough Man.
That is that is Sam Donald's grandpa b it out
there and pressed the press. I mean, think about it though.
He first day of school, right when they start by
your last name first and your first name last. There
was a little delay there and there not delay on radio.
John's like wait, wait, oh oh oh, baseball tonight. I
(37:03):
think we're gonna have a so I think it's gonna
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a metric ton to get to. Let's let's start with this.
Last night the Dodgers, the Dodgers dominated the Tampa Bay Rays,
and I told you that I was personally cheering for
Clayton Kershaw, and like, look, I'm not trying to be
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one of these guys that that is in denial of
what Kershaw had failed to do previously. Like Kershaw, it
has not been give me the ball. I'm gonna give
you a nine. I'm gonna have a complete game and
just wipe out. He's not black Jack McDowell, right, That's
not who he is. Last night, Clayton Kershaw six innings,
pitched one earned run, He had eight strikeouts. There was
(02:10):
nothing flukey about it. The only earned run was a
solo home run. You know, he was a little tight
to start, but look atst the World Series and we
know what he's up against. He gets out of it,
it goes down here. Look, we've seen this two thousand
and seventeen against the Astros, Game one, seventings, pitch one
er and run two thousand eighteen NLCS Game seven against
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the Brewers nine UH ninth inning he came in. He
struck out too no hits. A matter of fact, in
Clayton Kershaw's playoff career, he has thirteen stars where he's
given up two or fewer runs. He he only has
six starts when he's given up five or more runs.
And every time it's been after the fifth inning. He's tired,
he's fatigued, and and not all the not all the
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runs are truly his right reliever comes in inherits, the
run blows up, blows up the guys on base, you know,
end up going to the credit of Clayton Kershaw. So
I'm not gonna sit here and try and tell you
Kershaw has been a great postseason player the way that
Smoltz has or Madison bum Gardener has or uh Kurt
(03:19):
Schilling has. Right Like, I'm I'm not gonna lie to
you that way, but i will tell you that, Look,
there's no more pressure than pitching in the in the
World Series, and as a starter Game one two thousand seventeen,
he was money. Two thousand twenty, he's been money He's
had some high pressure situations like Game four the NLDS
against the Mets where he gave up just one or
(03:41):
and run over seven innings. He's shown us the ability
to pitch in pressure pack situations. And yeah, he hears you.
It's not great, it's not fun, But that doesn't mean
that he's not a that's like Cody Bellinger. We do
this limited sample size thing all the time right where
Cody Bellinger. If you ask somebody right now, did Cody
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Bellinger have a good have a good year? You were like,
hell yeah. See the home Runne hitting seven, See the
home Runnie hitting Game one? He had a great year. Robins.
You watch every Dodger game, literally every Dodger game. What
kind of year to Cody Bellen? Draft not a defending,
naturally gam VP year. I can tell you that I
felt like he was a flash in the pan from
last year. Correct, felt like people adjusted to him. Now
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it was only sixty games. It was shortened, you know,
and the lineup changed. Everything changed, especially when you add
Mookie Mookie to the light of right. Chris Taylor had
been their leadoff hit her before. Now now Mookies are
lead off hitter. So like things. Things have changed. They
developed greater depth. Corey Singers totally back now from uh
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Tommy John of two years ago, and he's probably their
second best player to Mookie and maybe even their best
player of course is a big time player. They got
dudes now. My point is we have a tendency to
make these bold statements used upon what somebody does in
the height of and the hype of the playoffs, and
that's not always who they are, even in the playoffs,
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even in pressure pack situations. I don't think the pressure
got to Kershaw previously. I think fatigue got to him,
and that that's my story and I'm sticking to it
because I think if pressure got to him, then pressure
would have gotten to him last night, and would have
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gotten to him in two thousand seventeen Game one, and
would have gotten to him, you know when he pitched
against the Medicine Game five of the DS like those
that didn't get to him then. So I don't think
he's been nearly in every stat would take nearly as
good as the dominant regular season picture that over the
last decade, he's widely been considered the best National League picture,
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maybe the best picture in baseball over that entire span.
Has he been that good in the playoffs? No, but
last night was a huge step in shut everybody. I'll
be like, look, I don't even have my best stuff anymore.
I don't throw mid the upper nineties, but I'm a pitcher,
not a thrower, and I can still find ways to
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make you make your head spin and make your bat miss.
My my, my ball. He's not He's more like Clayton Manning.
All right, That's what I've considered. He's like Clayton Manning.
When he wins the title, he'd be like, you know,
Peyton Manning wasn't as good in the big games, in
the clutch maybe as some of the other quarterbacks, but
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he was a great quarterback. And some of that is
also the makeup of his team. That his team is
so widely dependent upon him, saying Clayton Kershaw, all these
teams have been dependent upon him to win them the
big game. You can't get another arm like I gotta
be the arm to save the day every single time.
That's how Peyton Manning was until his last year where
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he wasn't very good in the Broncos carried him this year.
I think it is kind of a mix where he
is good, not the greatest pitcher in baseball, but the
team is very good and they can carry him. But
he can also shut people down by being a starting,
starting pitcher. I don't think he was truly a choker before,
but there wasn't enough big time, big game, postseason success
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to go like, yeah, those are the exception, this is
a norm. But now the more data you acquire, and
especially as well as he pitched last night, it does
feel like a little bit more like it's the norm Alright,
coming up next year on the Doug Golip Show on
Fox Sports Radio. You know it's interesting. Um, I think
(07:38):
I know what has to happen with Baker Mayfield in
order from the Browns to be successful. I'll share that
with you up coming next be sure to catch the
live edition of The Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at
three pm Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
the I Heart Radio. Ah app Um, here's the thing.
(08:00):
I have friends that say, look, if you look at
the meltdowns on social media, a good portion of them
or women, because social media, especially Twitter, is straight up
evil in terms of what people say. Because they're just
like I can just say whatever, but I can just
say whatever. What. What's always amazed me about these a
(08:22):
holes on social media with the slide into your Instagram
is like, how whatever level of offense they take to
what you say there, there's no there's nothing stopping them
from saying anything that they want to say, right Like,
they'll they'll just make the most vile comments that are
(08:43):
clearly and quite obviously offensive, but it's in their their
defensive is it. Well, I was offended by what you said,
so I can say something that is highly and way
more offensive, like, yeah, that's not actually how it works,
you know. And I think there's an amount of there's
(09:04):
an amount of empathy that most women have that guys
have empathy, but they're not as empathetic. Um. And I
also think that women take things to heart, the mean
things you say. It's like, you know, when guys talk trash,
talk trash, and not every girl is against talking trash
(09:26):
like you. I have a daughter who she can hang,
she'll talk trash with the rest of us. But I
have another daughter who you say something to her and
she takes it as a personal offense. And you know,
I look at social media and Baker Mayfield's wife is
quoted as saying that she's very close to losing it
(09:47):
over people and the things that they've said over social media.
Baker has said this, and the criticism he's taken in
national media, I don't give it in what they say,
Bakerfield said after loss four and too never felt so
much like oh and six, But his confidence hasn't taken
a hit. This was Kevin Stefanski on Baker's commons, specifically
to what Baker was a firm. Maybe he felt the
(10:08):
mood on the zoom call. Maybe, but I can promise
you in here we're ready to go. We're ready to
put the work in to try and go one and know.
And I think it was Parcels who said you are
what your record he says, you are correct. Look I
said this about I mean even if Odell Beckham Jr.
Was frustrated Baker And that's why I took off his
shoes in his helmet, like, look, dude, we're four and two?
(10:30):
Put your how many shoes back on, going to the the
locker room, getting the planes, fly home to watch some films,
figured out let's fix things. I am both a I'm
a realist and a fan of Baker Mayfield. I'm realistic
in that I just don't think he has. Everybody talks
about intangibles. He's got intangibles. His issue has been the
tangibles and the understanding of what those tangibles are. He's
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just not a big guy, non athletic guy. He's got
a good arm, but it's not like he's got Matt
Stafford or Aaron Rodgers or Pat Mahomes arm. He's a
good enough athlete for regular human being, but it's not
like he's a freak like Russell Wilson, Lamar Jackson and
some of those guys. He's just not Josh Allen. That
sounds a freak, throws at eighty something yards, can run
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big and strong. He's none of those things. He he
has quality intangibles, but those intangibles sometimes can get marginalized
if you have too much pride, if you take people's
um and if you you take people's negative comments to heart,
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you just can't. You're not the only thing that wins
people is winning games, and even that it's not gonna
win some people. So my advice to Baker would be
to not only stay out of social media, but keep
your wife off social media. People are evil. What is
the winning going on there? What is it? What? What
is the win? You know, I got people chasing something
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I did twenty five years ago that I could not
possibly care any less about. It doesn't affect my daily
life at all. Nobody's life's affected, especially the idiots who
trolled me on Twitter. But and I understand you read
it and you think, like, hey, I was popular five
minutes ago and now I'm not none you can control.
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
(12:20):
gott Leap Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific.
That's crazy with Pat Chambers because he had kind of
survived the past two years when people thought he was
gonna be fired like a year and a half ago,
and they made a they were good last year and
last year they were good even though they it was
um I think it was Raji Bolton or a Seer
(12:44):
Bolton who left and went to Iowa State and made
some accusations about the program that we're not flattering. And
obviously my guests would be that there's some sort of
either proof or some sort of smoking gun that led
to Pat Chambers outstair. I like, you don't, you don't
resign on October one, when the season is going to
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start in one month. Unless some sort of investigation came down.
I'll have some news in the press as well about
how the Big West is handling their basketball schedule, which
is somewhat unique. But what we're going to have in
this COVID day and age of college hoops. But do
you mind if we talk about it right now, is
we're waiting for very quition. Okay, So the Big West
gonna play twenty league games for people don't know, the
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Big West is mostly California schools, with the exception of Hawaii.
So what are they gonna do with Hawaii? Um? Not necessarily,
uh sure yet, but I don't know if they would
just fly over. I think they fly over and play
a bunch of games. I'll have to I can text
their coach, he's a friend of mine. Um. That's so
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basically all they're doing is conference games. All they're during
his conference games. In the conference games would be held
on a Friday and Saturday. You'd basically playing the same
opponent on back to back days, is my understanding. So
you would have a game on Friday, for example. Let's
just take uh you know, see Sun against Long Beach State.
They would play on Friday, they would play on Saturday
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in the same gym that they played both days, and
that would be there, I guess two matchups that they
would have for the season. What do you think, I
I it's you know, for that's how you got to
do it. That's how you get through it. And you know,
for a conference like that, I I mean, if you
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can't have fans, I don't know, you know how much.
I'm not privy on how much TV money, but it's
gonna be a one big, you know league anyway. Um, yeah,
you gotta do it. I've always thought that the PAC
twelve scheduling, the way that they've done it, because of
how the schools are set up, was always a very unique. Yeah.
This so for people don't know the PAC twelve, they
do what's called travel partners. So USC and u c
(14:54):
l A, Oregon, organ State, You, Stanford, cal Uh, Utah,
Colorado are are the only ones that are like, you know,
far away from each other. Washed Washington states pretty far
away from each other. Um, and that's actually a really
tough trip, as is Colorado Utah because when you go
to play Oregon State, everybody stays at the Valley River
in both teams and oftentimes they used to because they
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used to always play Thursday and Saturday. The teams used
to fly up together. Right, they go and they get
to l A, and they fly in like a Southwest
flight to Eugene, and they stay in Eugene at the
Valley River in and one would play Oregon and forty
five minutes away is Organ State, and then they both
stay there right and and then after Saturday night's game
and they both fly back and they actually there's teams
that have chartered together to do that. UM. Now it's
(15:37):
a little different because now some teams playing on Wednesday,
some playing on Thursday, some are Saturday, some are Sunday.
But you do, you do your travel partner and it
generally works. And when they were going to expand the
league a long time ago, there was hoped that it
would be San Diego State in un O v as
travel partners that didn't work, UM or maybe a b
y U in a Utah would have been better than
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Colorado and Uyu, but they didn't want a religious school
in the mix with the with the with the public
of the private schools. Anyway, But how's the pactol of
doing it this year with schedule we don't know yet, right, Yeah,
if they did, it's just done at the on the
top of my uh, on the top of the brain.
Big West would start they're back to back games, uh,
the weekend right after Christmas or December, and you would
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be able to have non conference games from November up
until that point. But then when they get into season,
there would be one bye week built in. But even
if a game had to be canceled or postponed, they
wouldn't reschedule it because of COVID. Alright, let's welcome in,
Brady Quinn. Of course you can see on the big
Name kickoff as we're getting ready to watch Big Ten
(16:44):
football Nebraska and Ohio State. Um. Brady, let's let's start
with with last weekend. Um, your thoughts on Alabama Georgia,
now that we've had a chance to catch our breath. Well,
my initial thoughts are like, A, looked this. Uh there's
one of two things that's happening at Alabama. Either we're
just full on seeing the transition of uh just college
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offense is having a hard time adapting to these explosive offenses. Uh.
It's either of that, and and maybe we're just gonna
see Alabama struggle to play good defense rest of the
year or just earlier in the season, and everyone's still
kind of working out the kinks on that side of
the ball, and there really is no home toild advantage,
you know, because most stadiums aren't able to be a
full capacity. But also the other side of that conversation, though,
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is Georgia's good football team. I think they'll continue to
get better as the year goes on, right, I mean,
Stepson Bennett wasn't the start up to begin the season.
It's always toughen you have these quarterback battles, you know,
like the Big Ten start up this week. There's a
number of teams that have like a four way quarterback
battle going in the season, and I'm thinking to myself, like,
how the hell do you get any guy prepared to
be the starter if you've got four or three guys
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competing for it. So I think Bennett in this offense
for Georgia will continue to get better. And as for Alabama,
it's really focusing on that defense and how they can
kind of kind of improved, because I don't think there
is count that as they as they've been in years past.
Brady Quinn joining us in the Doug Otlip Show on
Fox Sport Tradeo. Notre Dames look good not. I mean,
they weren't great last weekend obviously, and they ranked inside
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the top five. You know how it works with Notre Dame.
Everyone's in denial of how good or how town clay
shape Chase Claypool can go and dominate with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
But people think that Notre Dame doesn't have dudes. Obviously,
the offensive line is produced guy after guy after guy.
What's your sense of the Irish now at about the
quarter pole of the season. Well, let's not forget. You
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know they lost Claypool was a leading rode receiver last year.
That's cool. Commatti was the best tight end last year.
So that you know they're they're a team that's still
in transition too, and I think part of that. You know, offense,
that chemistry was obviously impacted by COVID, and if you're
looking at this group this year, you know last week
they made a concentrated effort at trying to get Javon McKinley,
the football kind of him being that that player where
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when isolated they'd like to take one on one opportunities
didn't work out. You know, that's still a work in progress. Um.
You know, Bryant's another player to keep an Onye on
number four for Notre Dame. I think, as you know
he continued to get more comfortable the offense, he might
emerge that big play receiver as well as Brandon Lindsay.
But the tight ends gonna Michael Mayer, that kid is
a freak, and you know he might not be up
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there along with the Kyle Pitts or Brevin Jordan's. Um,
you know, looking at Miami's tight end and Florida's tight end,
but he will be there at some point. I mean,
he'll be the next grade one. And so look, I
think they're still a work in progress. They're gonna have
to get to go on there this week because just
Pitt the good defensive team, their offensive line will be
challenged this This is the best team at rushing the
past in the country talking about pit. So I don't
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think they're just gonna be able to run the football.
I think they're going to have to be able to
brow to the football effectively versus one of the better
defenses in a sec you know, I talked about this
with Joel Klatt earlier in the week, and you know,
people forget when Deshaun watching his last year at Clemson
in the regular season, he tried to show everybody how
he could throw it from the pocket, and it led
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to kind of an up and down final sason when
he threw a lot of interceptions. Then they got to
the College while playoff and he got back to being
old DeShawn Watson. We ran and he threw it, did
a little bit everything, and they won the championship. Um,
I look at at Ohio State and you have a
quarterback who's come back in justin fields and he's got
a chance to be, if not the number one, maybe
the number two pick in the draft. Do you think
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he proved plays in a way in which he tries
to prove to people that he's more than than a
running quarterback, that he can be more of a pocket quarterback. Well,
the interesting thing is watching him last year, they were
so concerned about him getting hurt that they really didn't
run him much early on, Like when he took off,
there was a past play and the red sea parted
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or it was sprinkling in as they got more comfortable
towards the end of the season or kind of needed
two at times. So I actually think that's something that
they may feel more comfortable now doing this year, just
because they got a little bit more experience and some
the backups behind him. Um, but I mean that was
more of a product of that last year, and I
think as he as the season went on, he just
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got better and better as a pocket passer. So I
don't only have many concerns or you know, worries about
him needing to prove himselves as that. Uh. And that's
the part because if you look at the Ohio State
kind of lineage to Dwayne Haskins for example, was a
first round pick largely a pocket passer. I mean, it's
not like they haven't produced those sorts of products. So
I would know that people are looking at justin Fields
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and saying, you know, he needs to show he can
play from the pocket. I think actually the exact opposite now,
especially look at the NFL. Most of these NFL teams
are saying like, yeah, we need a guy who's mobile,
a guy who can break tackles and play outside the
pocket because it's getting harder and harder to protect these
guys on a consistent basis, and we can actually make
guys better quote unquote pocket passers with different things we
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do to scheme things up and to help give them
easy completions. So I don't I don't really see that
as a big conserver justin field this year. Doug got
leave show here on Fox Sport Trader. That's the voice
of Brady Quinn. What are we going to see from Nebraska?
You know they added you talk about a quarterback battle.
Adrian Martinez is going to get the start, but they
might have a two headed monster there, change coordinators, you know,
(22:01):
they they've gone off to slow starts. They have this
ridiculous back to back Ohio State Penn State just to
start the season. What do you think we see from
the Big Red to start the year. That's the biggest
question mark, and I'm really not sure what to expect.
I mean going into this game. One of the things
we kind of talked about preparing, you know, for this game,
for our big new kickoff shows. You know, what do
you want to talk about? And I'm like, you know,
(22:22):
I kind of have some questions a little high to state,
but really to meet this skame is more about like
what is Nebraska like Are they going to be able
to get back to a team that I think two
years ago we looked at when Scott Frost had first
gotten there and we kind of said, all right, there's
a lot of promise or hope with this program, the
return of the prodigal son, and they've done nothing but
kind of go backwards. Adan Martinez didn't continue to develop
the way he thought he would, really forcing the football
(22:44):
time and making some really bad decisions, and defensively they
only got worse. So you know that they made a
change there, and I think that's gonna be the challenge
is it could look really, really ugly. And it's a
little unfair to Nebraska because it's you know, the first
game and the unprecedented year, but also you're taking on
our one of the best teams in the country. In
my opinion, they're probably a top three team next Alabama Clemson,
(23:04):
and so I'm not sure that's a fair evaluation. But man,
you know, it is interesting though, like this matchup, Doug,
these two teams are like the two that pushed the
most to bring Big ten football back, and so I
do kind of find ironic that they like scheduled him
to play of the first week of this whole thing,
and then there could really be a star contrast between
how pot these teams look, no, no question about it.
(23:26):
Um how save this, Tom Todd Herman, you think, Tom Herman,
you think that's a great question. There's a lot of
football left to be played. Here's here's what they have
going for them right now is they could still exactically
make it to the Big Twelve. Right They've got to
play Iowa State later on, which Iowa State's kind of
louder in the clubhouse right now in the Big Twelve,
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like they dropped the game to begin the season. Definitely
a nonconference play, but they've been undefeated so far in
conference plays. So if if they can beat Iowa State,
you know they're gonna have the edge over them. And
then you just kind of have to see you got
Oklahoma State as well, that they had to play on
the road, you know at Oklahoma State, and maybe and
then they've got obviously you know, beat them by the
table with them, but there's still an outside side they
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could win the Big twelves. That would go a long
way I think and changing the perception. But I mean,
they've got to figure out a way of playing better defense.
At this point, you know, they made the almost wholesale
changes and if Chris Ask doesn't serve things up, you know,
at some point though, you gotta hold Tom Herman accountable
and get their offense. But yeah, I mean, I mean,
I just I I It's like everybody thinks they should.
(24:30):
But it's like like, look, Texas Tech should have beaten him,
they didn't TCU. It's not like this is a great
TCU squad does beat him? Got Oklahoma again, not a
great Oklahoma team, And I get that. Name wise, Look
Oklahoma State, if they get Spencer standards back like that,
that's a team that could that should very well be
favored over you, especially you're playing at home. And then
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you know there's no walks in the park really outside
of the Kansas game. Um, you know when you lose,
when you lose the TU Yeah, I mean no, And
they should have lost a Tech and she lost Slack.
So that's that's the tough part. Is it all depends
on how they finish out and if they can get
to the Big Talk Championship game with it that I
will come forget some of these these early blitz But
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I mean the question. Well, it's not Tom Herman. It's
like the Big Twelve right now. I think they are
are already setting themselves up to be kind of a
forgotten conference And we haven't even started Big Ten or
Packed Twelve play so far. And I think we we
you know, almost opening the door for the potential chance
of the SEC getting too and automatically just because of
how far how bad the Big Twelve looks so far. Yeah,
(25:33):
I mean that first weekend was an abject, abject disaster,
regardless of you know, if you're playing with backups or
how many suspended guys you have because of COVID or whatever. Uh,
It's it's crazy. Um, what about the Pack twelve, Like
we're still waiting, they haven't played long enough to wait
for the Big Ten. Do we do we consider do
(25:54):
we consider them players in this whole discussion, um the
other back to the conference and the players coaches involved. Yeah,
we can say that, I really don't know, given the
late start, the amount of games on the player, who
knows if they can even finish out you know, the
Big Ten, the pact to all of the way they
set this whole thing up, there's really no room for
(26:14):
you know, air or postponements, right, And so I honestly
don't really think they are. Um maybe if they have
an undefeated team and things go hey wire in the
SEC or a SEC or even the Big Ten with
you know COVID and how some of these teams end
up playing out. But if they get a undefeated organ,
undefeated USC, who knows how it's going to pan out,
that would be the only sin there in which I
(26:35):
think they would have even a shot. But right now,
I just think the perception of the Pack twelve. And
this really started to me with the very first college
football Playoffs season when they took on Ohio State. In
Ohio State absolutely just you know, brutalize them and beat
them up on both sides of the ball. Like I
don't know that they ever really overcame that and that
(26:56):
perception in the entire college football world, like they just
they don't have the ability to compete upfront on the
line of scrimmage, on it on neither side of the ball.
And you know, you're not seeing that that's huge rush
of NFL talent coming out of the pactualve anymore. They're
having a little bit hard time recruiting with the exception
of your organs. So right now, it's it's all perception
(27:18):
right now, I think with the College Football Well Committee
and with the patrol starting as late as they are,
they're already starting behind the eight ball in my opinion,
even if there was a team that you know goes undefeated.
Let me let me ask you about the NFL Brady
Queenn joining us. You know, I see him Big New
and Kickoff. Also listen to them on Fox Sports Trade
on the weekends with Jona Snocks. Uh, they are not related.
It only feels like they're brothers. Um. I want to
(27:40):
ask you about to a kind of weird right, Like
we knew Fits was eventually gonna be sent to the bench,
but he actually played well. Granted's the Jets bye week.
Fits seemed surprised by it. They choose to go at
to h this early into a season where they could
make the playoffs. What's your reaction. Well, first off, now
that we hear more about how it was handled, I'm
(28:00):
not a fan of that. I mean, it's man like
the fact that they made this decision in the room
and someone went out and leaked it to the media,
and Brian Forrest isn't talking too fits directly on the
phone right after that meeting. It's disrespectful considering what he's
done so far to help, you know, give them a
chance and winning football games and just be the good,
good leader of the good veteran in the locker room
and helped bring this culture along. So I hate to
(28:22):
hear that. I think the interesting thing about all this
is we kept hearing like this is about two and
once he's ready, when is he ready? I don't see
that being the case. I actually see this being about
the team and when the team around him was ready.
And I think they are looking at the fact that,
all right, our schedule got jacked up because of COVID.
We now go by we have two weeks to prepare
for the Rams. Why not go ahead and just give
(28:45):
him those two weeks to prepare. Our offensive line is
greatly improved. We've got these receivers in Parker who has
become our number one guy, consistently preston wins zone target
all they're tight ends have pitched in between Ghasecki, h Durham,
spite at the Adam Shaheen and fourth flot guy. Team
grants their gadget guys, so they all have their roles,
and they're and and they're playing better on that side
(29:06):
of the ball and defensively starting to become opportunistic. So
why not then insert him at a time in which
your five, you feel like your team is in a
good spot. You know, see if he can maybe take
you even further, but at least get some of that
experience to really prepare for being a more true contender.
I think that's more of the logic behind it. If
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you were the Jets and you've got a chance of
Trevor Lawrence, would you move off of Sam and Donald?
The tough part about answer that question is, you know,
I don't know who the head coaches, who the general manager,
is the way this whole thing is moving. I mean,
you know, look, Joe Douglas has no ties to Sam Donald, right,
He just got there this year, So technically, you know,
(29:47):
if you wanted to, you could easily make that excuse
and trade him, get whatever you can for him, and
then draft Trevor Lawrence. Uh, if Adam Gates is there,
you kind of wonder if he would make the same decision,
But you know, he took this job when Sam Donald's
the quarterback, So you have to anticipate that he was
thinking like this is part of the plan of helping
to improve them. So that's kind of one conversation, like
I need to know where the Jets are first before
(30:09):
we can really answer them. But I will say this
about Trevor Lawrence is whoever is number one? I mean,
I gotta be as there's not too many teams right now.
It's out of like Seattle, which they're not gonna be
number one. Can't say it's not gonna be number one,
Baltimore is not gonna be number one. I mean, there's
there's only a handful of teams that I think if
you had that number one pick that wouldn't order trade
out of it, not take Trevor Lawrence. And he is
(30:30):
the best prospect that I've seen in my lifetime. And
so yeah, you can easily see a scenario where the
New York Jets end up moving on from Donald and
drafting number one one overall if they're in that spot.
But I can tell you this much, I feel like
the Jacksonville jack choirs right now that might be the
biggest Jet fan base you've ever seen, because they're hoping
to win one or two games so that they can
(30:50):
have that spot and they can take Trevor Lawrence. Awesome
stuff that. That's the voice of Brady Queening here on
weekends on Fox Sports Trading. Of course you see him
on Big Neon Kickoff getting ready for Nebraska, haven't know
how state first Big ten game of the year. Of
course you can see it on Fox this Saturday. Brady,
thanks so much for joining us. Always have a great day, dude.
Pleasures all my By the way, there's a Friday night
(31:11):
Big ten game. Want to make sure I kind of
correct my it's the big first Saturday Big Ten. Whatever
you get it, you get I think you get it.
Don't you get it? I got some good Michael Jordan,
the player, Michael Jordan, the owner of Michael Jordan's The Coach,
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Fox Sports Radio dot com and within the I Heart
Radio app search f s R to listen live. Let's
get to the press. The press by can't buy what
he got Doug we starting the National Football League ESPN
reporting that the Seahawks are interested in signing wide receiver
Antonio Brown. The c X would be one of a
(31:53):
few teams interested in Brown wants his suspension ends after
Week eight of the NFL season. You are s Hawk
fan and you are against them picking him up. Yes,
I am, I am, just you don't want to say
in the apple Cart. Well, they they've signed Josh Gordon,
as I mentioned earlier, they're still waiting for him to
be reinstated. You've Russell Wilson has been magnificent. To your point,
(32:15):
I don't know why you would throw Antonio Brown now
into the mix when the passing game seems to be,
you know, the best part of what they're doing this
season because he's good. Sure, sure, but how much of
the growth are you getting as opposed to maybe possible
chemistry problems. I get it, But apparently there's chemistry between
(32:37):
he and Russell Wilson having worked together so worked out together,
which I'm sure as a plant from his agent whatever,
and Pete has dealt with difficult guys in the past. Um. Yeah,
that that's that's an interesting one. Where else would you
see him going? Who is in dire need? You know?
You would think Antonio Brown wants to go to a
(32:57):
competitive a team that can play bucking here have been
ruled out. I think you have to have you have
to have a quarterback that Brown would respect enough like
he did in New England with Brady for that game
that he played. I think the options. You know, New Orleans,
you know that could be a spot Michael Thomas's situation,
(33:18):
by the way, with the Saints, but they already have
an issue with Michael Thomas. I know, by the way,
it's gonna be a separate story. Sean Payton said the
punishment for punching a teammate over, but wasn't clear if
Thomas was gonna be able to play in Week seven
against Carolina. Members of the media who saw the open
portion of practice saw Thomas on the field and then
saw him leave and didn't see him for the rest
(33:40):
of practice. So I'm not sure necessarily what's going on
with Michael Thomas in New Orleans. The news that I
just told you a little while ago, Pat Chamber stepping
down as the head coach at Penn State after nine
seasons now being revealed there was an internal investigation into
the topics. I believe that we talked about Doug so
that could be the reason why Chamber stepped out. So
Racier Bolton is the former point guard. He started as
(34:02):
a freshman, and apparently there's a comment made about I
don't want you to play like there's a noose around
your neck or whatever, and Racier took it to being
racially in charge and sensitive. You know, it feels like
a misinterpretation because it was again and this is when
(34:26):
you when you read things. The idea was I want
you to play free. I just don't know you wouldn't
play like this is not that hard, guys, it's not
that hardy, Like I want you to play free. I
don't want you to play like yeah, we used to
call it one eye. Can't play one eye on the bench.
I need you to play free, have fun, understand what
we want you to do, like no racially charged commentary,
(34:48):
no commentary about somebody's parents or their sexual orientation, like
this ain't that hard. We we act like this is
an old school versus new school, Like no, it's not
just common sense school. And I like pat Um a
little culty, the way he coached, in the way it
was some of the things they did and they saw,
you know, they won over sixty games the last three years.
And for if you've ever been in Penn State, that's
(35:08):
nothing short of outstanding. But still the timing tells you
that this was whatever they investigated it on, uncovered some
bad stuff. Michael Jordan's spoke with Cigar Aficionado and said quotes,
I have no patience for coaching. For me to ask
an individual to focus on the game the way I
played the game in some ways would be unfair for
(35:30):
that kid that would have to endure that. Michael Jordan's saying, Yeah,
for all he's done, he could never be a coach. Yeah,
there's no way. I mean, of the great players, I
think Larry Bird has been the only one who is
a really good coach, right, Yeah, And Larry Bird he
as good a coach he was. He hired an offensive
and defensive coordinator, right, You hired Rick Carlisle and Johnny
(35:53):
Bach and Dick Harter those were his That's actually a
guy's name. Just so you know, I'm not making it up.
He's a very well respecting you and it's with a T, right, yes,
Hart Stan Van Dundee will be the new head coach
of the New Orleans Pelicans, getting a four year ramos.
That's his name, Dick Hart. Right. Do you know what
(36:16):
Sam Donald's grandpa's name is uz No, what is it?
You don't remember? His grandpa is one of the old
no original Marlboro man. Oh I didn't. Arnold Donald would
have been great that no no, no, no no no,
no no no. Dick Hammer. Dick Hammer, Yes, that's Dick Hammer.
(36:38):
Was like this freak athlete and he became the Marlborough Man.
That is that is Sam Donald's grandpa b it out
there and pressed the press. I mean, think about it though.
He first day of school, right when they start by
your last name first and your first name last. There
was a little delay there and there not delay on radio.
John's like wait, wait, oh oh oh, baseball tonight. I
(37:03):
think we're gonna have a so I think it's gonna
be one one at the end tonight. Stut Gottlieb Show,
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