September 26, 2023 • 27 mins
Doug riffs on how hard it was to watch each Monday Night Football game. Monse Bolanos joins Doug to discuss an important angle in this Taylor Swift-Travis Kelce story. Doug responds to Dan Patrick's take about Zach Wilson. Doug chooses among the deserving annoying candidates Jason Stewart chooses, Plus, Doug gives out his "Pick Of The Day".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug gottlie Show. Heres in
the bonus with Doug Gottliadio was up.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
You know, something interesting was happening last night when I
was watching either of the Monday night football games. You
have people complaining about having both Monday night football games,
But then were either of those games great games to watch?
Have you ever noticed that, like we complain just to complain,
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that's like the greatest.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Last night is the greatest.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I know, it's the second week in row they've done
that where they had the kind of staggered start times
of essentially you know, back to back, uh not back
to back to NFL games running at the same time
on Monday Night. But the level of complaining last night
is the perfect example of why not like you shouldn't complain,
but why it's not a terrible thing to have two.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Games going on at once.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I mean, I can remember, and I do think last
year was a bit different because the quality of the
game was better, and I think if we're really canted
about it, Aikman and Buck have kind of reinvigorated themselves
and I think ESPN is the better because of it.
But the broadcast being better and the games being better
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last year did kind of cover up the fact that
for a long time and there were some games like
this last year.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
They're just some bad games.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
And what having two games at once allows you to
do is, you know, minimize just how bad one game is.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
You can flip over the other game. Now, last night,
neither game was particularly great.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
The Eagles, you know, and Jalen Hurts turned over a
couple of times, but they were just so physically dominant
running the football. Against the Tampay Buccaneers, it wasn't really
super competitive.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
And then on some.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Level, the same could be said for a score wise
much more competitive Bengals Rams game rematch of a Super
Bowl of two years ago. But the reality is the
Rams aren't very good and the Bengals and Joe Burrow's
not healthy and they squeaked out a win. So I
guess that would be the game that you would have
watched more and wanted to watch more. But nothing says,
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we complain. Just to complain more, then, how many people
can play in last night? Oh, there's two games going
on once. What is going on? What is happening? They're like, well,
imagine if it was just the Buccaneers and Eagles, that
was your Monday night football game. Would you watch like, well, no,
What if it was the Rams taking on the Bengals
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and Joe Burrow's.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Hurt would you watch like?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Maybe? Probably not? I mean rabos would you know? Some
Bengals fans would, but most people would say no. But
because you had the names that you had, Stafford, Burrow,
Mayfield and Hurts. Because you had, you know, you had
four teams that had played at some point in the
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last three Super Bowls, three teams that have played in
the last two Super Bowls, it was at least worthy
of watch when if one game was bad, you could
flip over the other guys. I did want to before
we get to what the Fox said and what's annoying
Jason Stewart, let's bring in Monsie Blangyos. And there's a
lot of discussion about the body language between Taylor Swift
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and Travis Kelcey upon leaving Arrowhead Stadium, And I would
only point out that, like, from my perspective, the whole
thing is not a sham. I just don't think they're
really a couple yet, right Like supposedly they had been
hanging out or talking. It's not like they'd been texting.
She's been busy, He's been busy. Hey, why don't you
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come to a game? He came to a concert. Maybe
you met her once before, and you know, like you
go from not really dating somebody to sitting with their
mom watching and play football game, being on national TV,
and you're Taylor Swift. Like there's just no normal kind
of pattern of behavior, because, like, tell me if I'm wrong, Moncie.
If he holds her hand when they're walking down of
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the stadium, it implies they're much deeper into a relationship
than likely is.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
True, and they're probably trying to keep it subtle. But
I agree with you, they're not normal. Like he can
find out anything he wants about Taylor Swift on social media,
and she can probably find out details about him. So
like their first date is really probably like date number
five for normal people, And so I.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Think it was more just trying to keep it subtle.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
They knew the cameras were on them. I'm sure he
wanted to hold her hand, but maybe it was just like, hey,
let's not bring more attention because the attention was nuts
and I loved it.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
You're sure he wanted to hold her hand.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
There's no way I want to hold her hand. You
don't want to hold her hand. Everybody wants to hold
Taylor Swift's hand.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Well, no, no, or not, and she's not my girlfriend.
I don't like and he might not be a handholder.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
I get what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
I just I think the lack of affection, let's not
even just say holding hands, the lack of affection or
how maybe there was space between them. I think it
was more because they knew cameras were on them, not
because he didn't want to or she didn't want it.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Jase Doo, what do you think.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
You guys are talking about something that really kind of
goes against what I'm about this week. I just don't
even want to entertain this.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Remember just you do a podcast on the Bachelor, Bachelorette.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
Yes, and the Bachelor to me could be compartmentalized. I
don't want a teeny pop mix into my football. And
I think that's the thing that annoys me most about
this is that whether I'm a football fan or not,
I'm paid to cover football. I have to. I have
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to consume so much football content for my job, and
then we're adding like this kind of like the the
inquirer into into my workplace. I'm being forced to talk
about something that I just think is cheap and tabloidish,
and I think that's what annoys me most about this.
So if you really need me to have an honest
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opinion about the body language, the lack of public affection
and stuff, I would be contradicting myself by even entertaining
that discussion. So I have to kind of leave this
to you. And by the way, Doug dan Buyer and
John Ramos, I think they're they're they're moving into my
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side of this. We we just hate that this is
a topic. So I'll let you and Mansei have at this.
I think you guys got I think John was telling me, John,
you want to articulate what what you feel is is
most annoying about this to you? Is is it just
too much?
Speaker 7 (06:57):
Like I think it's oversaturated. I think it's just way
too much stuff. But I don't need to know about
their personal life. It doesn't need to roll into two
sports of football, but I don't mind it. And if
it comes to the bilinguage, I was telling uh Jason
that I actually think they're just really probably good friends
and they just enjoy each other's company right now, And
I think people put stuff into the situation that isn't
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isn't there. She seems like she was having a genuinely
fun time rooting for him. If I went to a game.
I'm just gonna use Mancy as an example. If I
went to the Dodger game with Mancy, we probably would
enjoy ourselves there. We'd enjoy ourselves, we'd have a good
time in them, and the game would be over. I'd
be like, all right, Manci, see later, and then she'd
go her way and I go my way, and they'd
be like, oh they look at them. It's like, well, no,
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they just enjoy what they're doing. They love the Dodgers,
they enjoy sitting and watching him, and they have a
common interest in something and then they go the separate ways.
And I think that's what they're kind of doing right now.
I think that's that's why I think I agree with you, Monty.
That's they're not and that what she said. They're not together,
but they're just kind of filling each other out.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
Yeah, but I don't think they're just friends.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
I feel that you again, they just skip so many
steps based on who they are it's impossible to make
it seem like they're a normal couple, or that you
would take the normal steps.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
That's right thing.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
I agree with you guys that it's you know, the
media is all over it.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
But I don't I don't know how you stop that
right situation.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
You know, I don't know how you stop the fact
that they showed her in a suite right before a
game with Travis Kelsey's mother.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
It's like from the beginning. You know, I did breaking
news for it, you guys on Sunday, Just so you know,
I did breaking news. But it's the media. It's there,
it's in our faces. It's it's it's a lot. But
as a Swiftie, I don't care. But it is a lot.
Speaker 8 (08:46):
I agree.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
No, I don't care that it's in my face. I'm
not annoyed by it.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
She like, yeah, I'm enjoying it. But I get I
one hundred understand where Jason and John and Dan might
be coming from.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
If you truly don't care about Taylor Swift, why is
she on my screen? I'm wanting to I want to
watch the Chiefs play.
Speaker 9 (09:07):
Okay, So do you think they make it past the
six month Mark is a couple.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
No, I don't, but I I think that it doesn't
work out just because of their busy schedules.
Speaker 9 (09:25):
Okay, you know, Jason Stewart, How long does this thing last?
Speaker 6 (09:31):
I think I think they're going to milk it for
for as long as they can. I think it's a
it's a publicity stunt. So but who's getting Who's getting
the most out of this publicity stunt? I think the
answer may be yesterday in that news item where sales
for Kelsey's jerseys went up four So those are swifties
buying those, right. So the NFL, I think, might be
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the biggest benefactor of this publicity stunt because NFL fans
aren't gonna start listening to Taylor Swift music. Right If
your demographic for the NFL is like thirty five to
forty nine year old white guys or men, say, that's
not Taylor Swift demographic. So she's not really benefiting from this.
I don't think. I think the NFL is.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
I think everybody.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I think any Everybody's benefits because she's so widely popular
and generally in air of positivity, and she's on a
day when she's not working, going to an NFL game
to see a guy she barely started dating. Like no,
I think when the most popular woman on the planet
goes to see a football game to go on a
date with, you know, one of the best players in football,
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I think that can only help the sport.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
So I don't. I don't see the downside. I really don't.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Yeah, I'm with Doug.
Speaker 8 (10:48):
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Speaker 3 (10:59):
Let's get to what the Fox Said and.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Now the Fox Say every day at this time in
the Bonus podcast Here on the Doug Gottlieb Show on
Fox Sports Radio, we play for you a portion of
a previous show on Fox Sports Traio Fox Sports One.
We call it what does the Fox Say? This is
Dan Patrick talking about Zach Wilson.
Speaker 10 (11:19):
We can talk about skill position players, and yes, they're
going to make the headlines, they're going to make the
big money. But you win and lose because of your
offensive and defensive lines. If you said the Jets had
a decent offensive line, you know, then maybe you know
we're looking at a different Zach Wilson there, and I'm
not going to put everything on Zack Wilson, and I
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watched pretty much that entire game. Zack Wilson at times
doesn't pull the trigger when he needs to. Sometimes you
have to anticipate. Zack Wilson needs to understand that. But
keep in mind, he was going to be the guy
who was going to sit behind Aaron Rodgers for a
couple of years. He was going to be the guy
got to learn from the master. Then all of a sudden,
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after you know, two three games.
Speaker 8 (12:04):
Get him out of there.
Speaker 10 (12:06):
We got to bring in Nick Foles, We got to
bring in a backup quarterback. Well, look at the backup dude.
Guys know who the backup quarterback is with the Jets,
Tim Boyle. Tim Boyle. You know why Tim Boyle was there.
He's non threatening and he's friends with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 9 (12:25):
Yeah, from back in the Green Bay days.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
No question.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
So I just I didn't bite on the Zach Wilson thing.
After Aaron Rodgers got hurt. Oh, he's total knew Zach Wilson.
So I'm like the least surprised person on the face
of the earth. He we remember last year, Mike White
gets some starts. They're chanting Mike White's name in the
locker room, They're wearing Mike White T shirts. I thought
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back then Zach needed a fresh start. Now it appears obvious.
Here's pretty Quinn talking about the way the Notre Dame
game ended again into Ohio State.
Speaker 11 (12:58):
There's various elements that that play a role in just
substitutions and how things like that can get messed up.
You know, I think for a young head coach and
Marcus Freeman, like we tend to forget, he had no
head coaching experience before he took over a Notre Dame.
I always felt like you knew at some point there
was going to be a moment where you said, all right,
he made a mistake and it's a learning experience. This, unfortunately,
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happened in arguably the biggest game that he's been a
part of so far in his career, at home, in
the final moments, in the most critical moment, and it
ultimately falls on him. You know, I don't know the
exact operations to their defense and substitutions to tell you, hey,
it was on their defensive coordinator. Hey, it was on
this coach to be able to signal in who should
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be out there, and there's no point in really pointing
a finger because it's over and you all you can
do is now put in, you know, different mechanisms to
ensure that it never happens again. And like he talked about,
you know, now the defense knows, hey, if there's a
likely ten guys out there, we have to be able
to call a penalty. Now, the odd thing is is
that the you know, he didn't try to or or
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they didn't. You know, no one on the field recognized it.
Like that's the tough thing is when you're watching it.
I mean, Todd Blacklich in the booth didn't recognize it,
and he should have seen it and draw drew attention
to it. You know, no one in the field for
Notre Dames defense at the time recognized it. If they did,
they should have tried to get a penalty. And I
think initially the thought too was like, hey, we couldn't
substitute in time, and you know we would have, you know,
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we wouldn't want to take a penalty.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
No, I get it, But allowing a guy to walk
into the end zoned with that type of pressure on
you is his next level. And yeah, I mean, I
think whether Marcus Freeman it was his fault or not,
it's always your faulting.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
You're the head coach. Here's Colin Callhard talking about Russell
Wilson going forward.
Speaker 12 (14:51):
I don't want to hear about the defense. That's not
what it's about. Russell's your iPhone. That's where you're spending
the money. That's who's going to get the heat. And
that's the downside to being a star and getting the
commercials and being the guy. And he is better than
last year. But they've got players. Jerry Judy can play Mims,
the rookie can play Courtland Sutton can play the left.
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Tackle's good, right tackles capable. One of their guards is good.
They have nice running backs, they have a brilliant offensive coach.
I'm not anti Russell. For years everybody said I was
too pro Russell. But you can defend Russell and say
it's the defense going forward. It's about the offense. If
they were top five in red zone scoring, top six
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on third down, maybe you'd have an argument somewhat. But
this whole thing here, this whole organization going forward, is
on the quarterback and the coach and if they lose,
Sean Payton's gonna get ripped. Not a defensive end. If
Russell Wilson loses, He's gonna get ripped. Not Patrick's Artan,
not a safety.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
So here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I understand what Colin's saying, and there's gotta be something.
We're talking about the quarterback and that's a problem. But
the defense quitting on the coach or quitting maybe on
the offense, or quitting, I think that's what has to
be unrooted, uprooted, figured out, discovered. I think those are
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the types of things that you have to get to
because it's just a complete debacle. Is Colin Wright to
the offense which were supposed to be what you can
depend upon? That's where you hired Sean Payton combined with
Russell Wilson combined with Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
But it's more than just the defense giving up seventy.
It's the idea that appears the defense quit on them,
and that needs to be dug into and figured out
before anything else happens.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
That's what the Fox says.
Speaker 8 (16:48):
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Speaker 2 (16:57):
App Let's find out who what is annoying Jason Stewart
and now.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
It's your annoying, Hey, Doug, this man a lot of headlines.
Yesterday Michael K put Joe Namath on this radio show
and it went something like this.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
And you brought up the coaching.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
How can a coach make things better for Zach?
Speaker 13 (17:23):
How can a coach say the locker rooms together?
Speaker 8 (17:27):
How many teams have we been on?
Speaker 13 (17:29):
Are you telling me they aren't some cats on the
defensive side saying?
Speaker 14 (17:33):
Whoa man wan't the wrong with you? Yeah, there's not
all harmony in the locker room. And if there is,
they need to get rid of the people. You got
to get people in there that are competitors and want
to fight it to win. These guys don't have to
be in love with each.
Speaker 13 (17:48):
Other, and if they, if they're staying they're in love
with each other, that bs and you got to get
rid of top to bottom.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
What would you if you if somebody handed you Zach
Wilson has said, Okay, Joe, make him better? What would
you do?
Speaker 13 (18:03):
Send him to Kansas City to back up against somebody
like my home maybe had learned something that wouldn't key.
You know, I've seen hienough of Zach Wilson.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
Okay, so you know those comments made a lot of headlines,
especially in New York City. Here's my part. I'm annoyed
by the fact that Joe Namath is being booked on
radio shows. He's eighty. He's obviously I don't know if
he had a couple of cocktails or what. I'm not
going to accuse the guy. We've seen Joe Namath with cocktails.
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But if your response to me is, well, our president's eighty,
that makes my point. Have you seen Joe Biden talk
in public over the last six months or a year.
We shouldn't be booking eighty year olds to talk about
this stuff, and we sure hell shouldn't be putting weight
into what Joe Namath says.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Was he wrong?
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Oh, it's not that his opinion is wrong, it's how
he was saying it. Just get rid of him. Trade
him to Kansas City. This is hopeless. There are much
more sophisticated ways of just defining what Zach Wilson's issues
are than that. He sounds like just a Joe regular fan.
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He doesn't sound like a former football.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Player, no question, I agree with you, and there's a
lack of maybe articulation. You know, he just doesn't like anything.
I just don't like him. But I do think that
this is this has been a long time coming, the
booking of eighty year olds. Yeah, I don't like I
respect my elders, but there is a point to where
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I'm like, yeah, I can't really listen to you because
the world has changed so dramatically.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
So that part I do get.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
On the other hand, I think he's younger than both
of our likely presidential candidates, and that's the scariest part
as very as part of them all.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Give me a couple more Nutgate.
Speaker 6 (20:05):
I'm gonna tell you what's annoying about this. So this,
Sauce Gardner had an incident with Patriots quarterback Mac Jones
allegedly and he sent out a video. But you know
he said this after the game, Sauce Gardner did.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
So there he gets up. He just come out to
me like, good job. But why he's saying that he
hit me and my he hit me in my private part.
Speaker 9 (20:30):
Man.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
So then Mac Jones went on his radio show today
that he makes a weekly appearance on and said.
Speaker 13 (20:37):
This Sauce is one of the best corners in the NFL,
so I have a lot of respect for him, and.
Speaker 14 (20:41):
I'm on that play just nothing was intentional, and I
just got up and went back to the huddle and
and that's it.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I have.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
I have no doubt that that mac Jones did it purposefully.
I think mac Jones has a history, right, I think
there's some dirty play in his past. But that's not
what annoys me about this. It annoyed me that hashtag
nutgate hasn't become a thing, and it should, especially in
that city. Nutgate because as we know, anything that involves
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the Patriots has to be gate. Jerome Bettison and Ben
Roethlisberger brought up a cheating thing that happened, you know,
fifteen years ago or whatever it was. We have to
put a gate on that. Whatever he's whatever they said,
we have to put a gate on it. So, Doug,
it's annoying that nutgate has not has not caught on yet.
Speaker 9 (21:32):
I'm annoyed to that Nutgate.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
And when you asked me before the show about nutgate,
I was like, I knew you were talking about, but
it took me a second to connect the two. So
we're annoyed at the American public for not latching on
the story and calling a nutgate.
Speaker 15 (21:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
I mean it's been forty eight hours. It should have
caught on by now.
Speaker 9 (21:48):
Oh great. What else?
Speaker 6 (21:49):
Mike Trout said all the right things in the exit interview.
He told the reporters that he's going to do what
he does every off season. He's going to relax and
then he's going to get ready to put an Angel's
uniform on in the spring. It's annoying to me that
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Mike Trout is such a nice guy, and I'm guessing
that he's going to say this out loud and then
let his agents do the behind the scenes work in
a trade or something. But Mike has been pretty damn
consistent through all these losing seasons and putting up with
that awful organization. Mike Trout has been Loyle. You have
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to give him that. Now they pay him handsome way
to be loyal, But he's been Loyle and he's been
pretty consistent in this message.
Speaker 9 (22:39):
Oh I agree, yes, But what's the annoying part.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
That he is a nice guy to me, and there
has to be a threshold. And I think the way
the whole thing went with Otawny. That had to be
the the uh straw that broke the camel's back. That
had to be the final thing that broke the damn
for Mike Trout. But he stays consistent his message, and
I'm annoyed by that anymore. I think you had something
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about Damian Willard. It came out yesterday that the Raptors
are the leaders in the clubhouse to secure Willard. What
I'm annoyed by that is that's just boring. I'm in
the content business. We can't be shipping Damon Willard to Canada.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
I would agree on some levels.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
I'd also think though that you know so much of
the NBA doesn't want him going to Miami because it
feels like it was predetermined right and then like Miami
or we went to the finals. We want the rich
to get Richard who want more competition. But more than anything,
I'm just annoyed by I don't care about all this. Well,
they could be interested, and maybe it's the Celtics. It
just tell me what he's traded, or tell me he's
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not gonna be traded. I'll let you pick what's the
most annoying.
Speaker 15 (23:45):
UH.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
To be honest, the fact that Nutgate hasn't caught on,
And if we're doing this podcast tomorrow and it still
hasn't cut on, then I'll really be upset. So people
that are not making a big deal out of nutgate.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I'm gonna go I'm gonna agree with that, just just
to pacify you, because it's.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Clearly bothering you.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
And I'm I'm not moved off anything else to say,
it's super annoying. But the fact that we haven't made
a bigger deal about calling it nutgate.
Speaker 8 (24:18):
Why are we doing this? I do because we can.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
Aaron Rodgers was on with Pat McAfee today and I
guess they could still cuss on that show.
Speaker 15 (24:32):
This is what teams have to go through. You know,
there's there's adversity points in every season. This year, it's
happening early and people are coming coming for us, and
there's you know, some heated conversations on the sideline and
different things. I think we need to hold our poise
a little bit better across them, really just offensively. You know,
we need to to not have some of those things
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happen on the sideline and and to be a little
better and to be a little just be a little
better competitors. You know, we need to unders saying this
is part of it. It's not always going to be pretty.
The most important thing is winning shot. What happened in
Green Bay they were down seventeen nothing and came back
and won that game. An ugly game, eighteen seventeen doesn't
fucking matter. It's like you win the game. That's the
most important thing or whatever. You got to get it done. So,
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you know, there's been I think too many little side
conversations and we just need to grow up a little
bit on offense and lock in and do our jobs everybody,
and not point fingers at each other. And that's everybody,
you know. We don't point fingers at the coaching staff,
don't point fingers at each other. Just get back to
work and get the job done.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
I love it.
Speaker 8 (25:35):
First.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I like the point that he's making and then using
the f W at the right at the right time
to give the right emphasis to the right point that
he's made. I love that we do get too caught
up in margin and victory and style points whatever, nothing matters.
Just even last night with the Bengals, just win the
fucking game. Why can we play that for you? Because
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we can Okay, sir, the bet.
Speaker 8 (26:00):
Is to you. Maybe it's time for the pick of
the day.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
All right.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
We continue to do this where we look ahead with
some of these picks, and what it does is allows
us to get these early lines before the line kind
of settles, you know, before it before it settles. I
look at college football this weekend and USC is a
twenty one and a half point favorite at Colorado, and
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everybody is going to point out how bad USC's defense was,
how competitive Arizona State was, going back to going back
to last week, and.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
I don't think it matters.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Colorado's just there's just been too much attrition. You don't
figure out how to stop somebody. And I know that
Oregon a lot of it was via the run, but
USC is so explosive past the football. Give me a
USC and the twenty one and a half, give it
to me.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Now.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
That's it for the end the Motives podcast. Check us
out in the radio show three to five Eastern, twelve
two Pacific. I'm Doug Gottlieb. This is in the Bonus
All right, this is the Doug gottlie Show. Heres in
the bonus with Doug Gottliadio was up.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
You know, something interesting was happening last night when I
was watching either of the Monday night football games. You
have people complaining about having both Monday night football games,
But then were either of those games great games to watch?
Have you ever noticed that, like we complain just to complain,
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that's like the greatest.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Last night is the greatest.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I know, it's the second week in row they've done
that where they had the kind of staggered start times
of essentially you know, back to back, uh not back
to back to NFL games running at the same time
on Monday Night. But the level of complaining last night
is the perfect example of why not like you shouldn't complain,
but why it's not a terrible thing to have two.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Games going on at once.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I mean, I can remember, and I do think last
year was a bit different because the quality of the
game was better, and I think if we're really canted
about it, Aikman and Buck have kind of reinvigorated themselves
and I think ESPN is the better because of it.
But the broadcast being better and the games being better
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last year did kind of cover up the fact that
for a long time and there were some games like
this last year.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
They're just some bad games.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
And what having two games at once allows you to
do is, you know, minimize just how bad one game is.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
You can flip over the other game. Now, last night,
neither game was particularly great.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
The Eagles, you know, and Jalen Hurts turned over a
couple of times, but they were just so physically dominant
running the football. Against the Tampay Buccaneers, it wasn't really
super competitive.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
And then on some.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Level, the same could be said for a score wise
much more competitive Bengals Rams game rematch of a Super
Bowl of two years ago. But the reality is the
Rams aren't very good and the Bengals and Joe Burrow's
not healthy and they squeaked out a win. So I
guess that would be the game that you would have
watched more and wanted to watch more. But nothing says,
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we complain. Just to complain more, then, how many people
can play in last night? Oh, there's two games going
on once. What is going on? What is happening? They're like, well,
imagine if it was just the Buccaneers and Eagles, that
was your Monday night football game. Would you watch like, well, no,
What if it was the Rams taking on the Bengals
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and Joe Burrow's.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Hurt would you watch like?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Maybe? Probably not? I mean rabos would you know? Some
Bengals fans would, but most people would say no. But
because you had the names that you had, Stafford, Burrow,
Mayfield and Hurts. Because you had, you know, you had
four teams that had played at some point in the
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last three Super Bowls, three teams that have played in
the last two Super Bowls, it was at least worthy
of watch when if one game was bad, you could
flip over the other guys. I did want to before
we get to what the Fox said and what's annoying
Jason Stewart, let's bring in Monsie Blangyos. And there's a
lot of discussion about the body language between Taylor Swift
(03:34):
and Travis Kelcey upon leaving Arrowhead Stadium, And I would
only point out that, like, from my perspective, the whole
thing is not a sham. I just don't think they're
really a couple yet, right Like supposedly they had been
hanging out or talking. It's not like they'd been texting.
She's been busy, He's been busy. Hey, why don't you
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come to a game? He came to a concert. Maybe
you met her once before, and you know, like you
go from not really dating somebody to sitting with their
mom watching and play football game, being on national TV,
and you're Taylor Swift. Like there's just no normal kind
of pattern of behavior, because, like, tell me if I'm wrong, Moncie.
If he holds her hand when they're walking down of
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the stadium, it implies they're much deeper into a relationship
than likely is.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
True, and they're probably trying to keep it subtle. But
I agree with you, they're not normal. Like he can
find out anything he wants about Taylor Swift on social media,
and she can probably find out details about him. So
like their first date is really probably like date number
five for normal people, And so I.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Think it was more just trying to keep it subtle.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
They knew the cameras were on them. I'm sure he
wanted to hold her hand, but maybe it was just like, hey,
let's not bring more attention because the attention was nuts
and I loved it.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
You're sure he wanted to hold her hand.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
There's no way I want to hold her hand. You
don't want to hold her hand. Everybody wants to hold
Taylor Swift's hand.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Well, no, no, or not, and she's not my girlfriend.
I don't like and he might not be a handholder.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
I get what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
I just I think the lack of affection, let's not
even just say holding hands, the lack of affection or
how maybe there was space between them. I think it
was more because they knew cameras were on them, not
because he didn't want to or she didn't want it.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Jase Doo, what do you think.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
You guys are talking about something that really kind of
goes against what I'm about this week. I just don't
even want to entertain this.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Remember just you do a podcast on the Bachelor, Bachelorette.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
Yes, and the Bachelor to me could be compartmentalized. I
don't want a teeny pop mix into my football. And
I think that's the thing that annoys me most about
this is that whether I'm a football fan or not,
I'm paid to cover football. I have to. I have
(05:57):
to consume so much football content for my job, and
then we're adding like this kind of like the the
inquirer into into my workplace. I'm being forced to talk
about something that I just think is cheap and tabloidish,
and I think that's what annoys me most about this.
So if you really need me to have an honest
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opinion about the body language, the lack of public affection
and stuff, I would be contradicting myself by even entertaining
that discussion. So I have to kind of leave this
to you. And by the way, Doug dan Buyer and
John Ramos, I think they're they're they're moving into my
(06:38):
side of this. We we just hate that this is
a topic. So I'll let you and Mansei have at this.
I think you guys got I think John was telling me, John,
you want to articulate what what you feel is is
most annoying about this to you? Is is it just
too much?
Speaker 7 (06:57):
Like I think it's oversaturated. I think it's just way
too much stuff. But I don't need to know about
their personal life. It doesn't need to roll into two
sports of football, but I don't mind it. And if
it comes to the bilinguage, I was telling uh Jason
that I actually think they're just really probably good friends
and they just enjoy each other's company right now, And
I think people put stuff into the situation that isn't
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isn't there. She seems like she was having a genuinely
fun time rooting for him. If I went to a game.
I'm just gonna use Mancy as an example. If I
went to the Dodger game with Mancy, we probably would
enjoy ourselves there. We'd enjoy ourselves, we'd have a good
time in them, and the game would be over. I'd
be like, all right, Manci, see later, and then she'd
go her way and I go my way, and they'd
be like, oh they look at them. It's like, well, no,
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they just enjoy what they're doing. They love the Dodgers,
they enjoy sitting and watching him, and they have a
common interest in something and then they go the separate ways.
And I think that's what they're kind of doing right now.
I think that's that's why I think I agree with you, Monty.
That's they're not and that what she said. They're not together,
but they're just kind of filling each other out.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
Yeah, but I don't think they're just friends.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
I feel that you again, they just skip so many
steps based on who they are it's impossible to make
it seem like they're a normal couple, or that you
would take the normal steps.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
That's right thing.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
I agree with you guys that it's you know, the
media is all over it.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
But I don't I don't know how you stop that
right situation.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
You know, I don't know how you stop the fact
that they showed her in a suite right before a
game with Travis Kelsey's mother.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
It's like from the beginning. You know, I did breaking
news for it, you guys on Sunday, Just so you know,
I did breaking news. But it's the media. It's there,
it's in our faces. It's it's it's a lot. But
as a Swiftie, I don't care. But it is a lot.
Speaker 8 (08:46):
I agree.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
No, I don't care that it's in my face. I'm
not annoyed by it.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
She like, yeah, I'm enjoying it. But I get I
one hundred understand where Jason and John and Dan might
be coming from.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
If you truly don't care about Taylor Swift, why is
she on my screen? I'm wanting to I want to
watch the Chiefs play.
Speaker 9 (09:07):
Okay, So do you think they make it past the
six month Mark is a couple.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
No, I don't, but I I think that it doesn't
work out just because of their busy schedules.
Speaker 9 (09:25):
Okay, you know, Jason Stewart, How long does this thing last?
Speaker 6 (09:31):
I think I think they're going to milk it for
for as long as they can. I think it's a
it's a publicity stunt. So but who's getting Who's getting
the most out of this publicity stunt? I think the
answer may be yesterday in that news item where sales
for Kelsey's jerseys went up four So those are swifties
buying those, right. So the NFL, I think, might be
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the biggest benefactor of this publicity stunt because NFL fans
aren't gonna start listening to Taylor Swift music. Right If
your demographic for the NFL is like thirty five to
forty nine year old white guys or men, say, that's
not Taylor Swift demographic. So she's not really benefiting from this.
I don't think. I think the NFL is.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
I think everybody.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I think any Everybody's benefits because she's so widely popular
and generally in air of positivity, and she's on a
day when she's not working, going to an NFL game
to see a guy she barely started dating. Like no,
I think when the most popular woman on the planet
goes to see a football game to go on a
date with, you know, one of the best players in football,
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I think that can only help the sport.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
So I don't. I don't see the downside. I really don't.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Yeah, I'm with Doug.
Speaker 8 (10:48):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
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Speaker 3 (10:59):
Let's get to what the Fox Said and.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Now the Fox Say every day at this time in
the Bonus podcast Here on the Doug Gottlieb Show on
Fox Sports Radio, we play for you a portion of
a previous show on Fox Sports Traio Fox Sports One.
We call it what does the Fox Say? This is
Dan Patrick talking about Zach Wilson.
Speaker 10 (11:19):
We can talk about skill position players, and yes, they're
going to make the headlines, they're going to make the
big money. But you win and lose because of your
offensive and defensive lines. If you said the Jets had
a decent offensive line, you know, then maybe you know
we're looking at a different Zach Wilson there, and I'm
not going to put everything on Zack Wilson, and I
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watched pretty much that entire game. Zack Wilson at times
doesn't pull the trigger when he needs to. Sometimes you
have to anticipate. Zack Wilson needs to understand that. But
keep in mind, he was going to be the guy
who was going to sit behind Aaron Rodgers for a
couple of years. He was going to be the guy
got to learn from the master. Then all of a sudden,
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after you know, two three games.
Speaker 8 (12:04):
Get him out of there.
Speaker 10 (12:06):
We got to bring in Nick Foles, We got to
bring in a backup quarterback. Well, look at the backup dude.
Guys know who the backup quarterback is with the Jets,
Tim Boyle. Tim Boyle. You know why Tim Boyle was there.
He's non threatening and he's friends with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 9 (12:25):
Yeah, from back in the Green Bay days.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
No question.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
So I just I didn't bite on the Zach Wilson thing.
After Aaron Rodgers got hurt. Oh, he's total knew Zach Wilson.
So I'm like the least surprised person on the face
of the earth. He we remember last year, Mike White
gets some starts. They're chanting Mike White's name in the
locker room, They're wearing Mike White T shirts. I thought
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back then Zach needed a fresh start. Now it appears obvious.
Here's pretty Quinn talking about the way the Notre Dame
game ended again into Ohio State.
Speaker 11 (12:58):
There's various elements that that play a role in just
substitutions and how things like that can get messed up.
You know, I think for a young head coach and
Marcus Freeman, like we tend to forget, he had no
head coaching experience before he took over a Notre Dame.
I always felt like you knew at some point there
was going to be a moment where you said, all right,
he made a mistake and it's a learning experience. This, unfortunately,
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happened in arguably the biggest game that he's been a
part of so far in his career, at home, in
the final moments, in the most critical moment, and it
ultimately falls on him. You know, I don't know the
exact operations to their defense and substitutions to tell you, hey,
it was on their defensive coordinator. Hey, it was on
this coach to be able to signal in who should
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be out there, and there's no point in really pointing
a finger because it's over and you all you can
do is now put in, you know, different mechanisms to
ensure that it never happens again. And like he talked about,
you know, now the defense knows, hey, if there's a
likely ten guys out there, we have to be able
to call a penalty. Now, the odd thing is is
that the you know, he didn't try to or or
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they didn't. You know, no one on the field recognized it.
Like that's the tough thing is when you're watching it.
I mean, Todd Blacklich in the booth didn't recognize it,
and he should have seen it and draw drew attention
to it. You know, no one in the field for
Notre Dames defense at the time recognized it. If they did,
they should have tried to get a penalty. And I
think initially the thought too was like, hey, we couldn't
substitute in time, and you know we would have, you know,
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we wouldn't want to take a penalty.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
No, I get it, But allowing a guy to walk
into the end zoned with that type of pressure on
you is his next level. And yeah, I mean, I
think whether Marcus Freeman it was his fault or not,
it's always your faulting.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
You're the head coach. Here's Colin Callhard talking about Russell
Wilson going forward.
Speaker 12 (14:51):
I don't want to hear about the defense. That's not
what it's about. Russell's your iPhone. That's where you're spending
the money. That's who's going to get the heat. And
that's the downside to being a star and getting the
commercials and being the guy. And he is better than
last year. But they've got players. Jerry Judy can play Mims,
the rookie can play Courtland Sutton can play the left.
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Tackle's good, right tackles capable. One of their guards is good.
They have nice running backs, they have a brilliant offensive coach.
I'm not anti Russell. For years everybody said I was
too pro Russell. But you can defend Russell and say
it's the defense going forward. It's about the offense. If
they were top five in red zone scoring, top six
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on third down, maybe you'd have an argument somewhat. But
this whole thing here, this whole organization going forward, is
on the quarterback and the coach and if they lose,
Sean Payton's gonna get ripped. Not a defensive end. If
Russell Wilson loses, He's gonna get ripped. Not Patrick's Artan,
not a safety.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
So here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I understand what Colin's saying, and there's gotta be something.
We're talking about the quarterback and that's a problem. But
the defense quitting on the coach or quitting maybe on
the offense, or quitting, I think that's what has to
be unrooted, uprooted, figured out, discovered. I think those are
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the types of things that you have to get to
because it's just a complete debacle. Is Colin Wright to
the offense which were supposed to be what you can
depend upon? That's where you hired Sean Payton combined with
Russell Wilson combined with Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
But it's more than just the defense giving up seventy.
It's the idea that appears the defense quit on them,
and that needs to be dug into and figured out
before anything else happens.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
That's what the Fox says.
Speaker 8 (16:48):
Fuck say. Be sure to catch live editions of The
Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
App Let's find out who what is annoying Jason Stewart
and now.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
It's your annoying, Hey, Doug, this man a lot of headlines.
Yesterday Michael K put Joe Namath on this radio show
and it went something like this.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
And you brought up the coaching.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
How can a coach make things better for Zach?
Speaker 13 (17:23):
How can a coach say the locker rooms together?
Speaker 8 (17:27):
How many teams have we been on?
Speaker 13 (17:29):
Are you telling me they aren't some cats on the
defensive side saying?
Speaker 14 (17:33):
Whoa man wan't the wrong with you? Yeah, there's not
all harmony in the locker room. And if there is,
they need to get rid of the people. You got
to get people in there that are competitors and want
to fight it to win. These guys don't have to
be in love with each.
Speaker 13 (17:48):
Other, and if they, if they're staying they're in love
with each other, that bs and you got to get
rid of top to bottom.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
What would you if you if somebody handed you Zach
Wilson has said, Okay, Joe, make him better? What would
you do?
Speaker 13 (18:03):
Send him to Kansas City to back up against somebody
like my home maybe had learned something that wouldn't key.
You know, I've seen hienough of Zach Wilson.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
Okay, so you know those comments made a lot of headlines,
especially in New York City. Here's my part. I'm annoyed
by the fact that Joe Namath is being booked on
radio shows. He's eighty. He's obviously I don't know if
he had a couple of cocktails or what. I'm not
going to accuse the guy. We've seen Joe Namath with cocktails.
(18:37):
But if your response to me is, well, our president's eighty,
that makes my point. Have you seen Joe Biden talk
in public over the last six months or a year.
We shouldn't be booking eighty year olds to talk about
this stuff, and we sure hell shouldn't be putting weight
into what Joe Namath says.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Was he wrong?
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Oh, it's not that his opinion is wrong, it's how
he was saying it. Just get rid of him. Trade
him to Kansas City. This is hopeless. There are much
more sophisticated ways of just defining what Zach Wilson's issues
are than that. He sounds like just a Joe regular fan.
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He doesn't sound like a former football.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Player, no question, I agree with you, and there's a
lack of maybe articulation. You know, he just doesn't like anything.
I just don't like him. But I do think that
this is this has been a long time coming, the
booking of eighty year olds. Yeah, I don't like I
respect my elders, but there is a point to where
(19:47):
I'm like, yeah, I can't really listen to you because
the world has changed so dramatically.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
So that part I do get.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
On the other hand, I think he's younger than both
of our likely presidential candidates, and that's the scariest part
as very as part of them all.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Give me a couple more Nutgate.
Speaker 6 (20:05):
I'm gonna tell you what's annoying about this. So this,
Sauce Gardner had an incident with Patriots quarterback Mac Jones
allegedly and he sent out a video. But you know
he said this after the game, Sauce Gardner did.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
So there he gets up. He just come out to
me like, good job. But why he's saying that he
hit me and my he hit me in my private part.
Speaker 9 (20:30):
Man.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
So then Mac Jones went on his radio show today
that he makes a weekly appearance on and said.
Speaker 13 (20:37):
This Sauce is one of the best corners in the NFL,
so I have a lot of respect for him, and.
Speaker 14 (20:41):
I'm on that play just nothing was intentional, and I
just got up and went back to the huddle and
and that's it.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I have.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
I have no doubt that that mac Jones did it purposefully.
I think mac Jones has a history, right, I think
there's some dirty play in his past. But that's not
what annoys me about this. It annoyed me that hashtag
nutgate hasn't become a thing, and it should, especially in
that city. Nutgate because as we know, anything that involves
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the Patriots has to be gate. Jerome Bettison and Ben
Roethlisberger brought up a cheating thing that happened, you know,
fifteen years ago or whatever it was. We have to
put a gate on that. Whatever he's whatever they said,
we have to put a gate on it. So, Doug,
it's annoying that nutgate has not has not caught on yet.
Speaker 9 (21:32):
I'm annoyed to that Nutgate.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
And when you asked me before the show about nutgate,
I was like, I knew you were talking about, but
it took me a second to connect the two. So
we're annoyed at the American public for not latching on
the story and calling a nutgate.
Speaker 15 (21:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
I mean it's been forty eight hours. It should have
caught on by now.
Speaker 9 (21:48):
Oh great. What else?
Speaker 6 (21:49):
Mike Trout said all the right things in the exit interview.
He told the reporters that he's going to do what
he does every off season. He's going to relax and
then he's going to get ready to put an Angel's
uniform on in the spring. It's annoying to me that
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Mike Trout is such a nice guy, and I'm guessing
that he's going to say this out loud and then
let his agents do the behind the scenes work in
a trade or something. But Mike has been pretty damn
consistent through all these losing seasons and putting up with
that awful organization. Mike Trout has been Loyle. You have
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to give him that. Now they pay him handsome way
to be loyal, But he's been Loyle and he's been
pretty consistent in this message.
Speaker 9 (22:39):
Oh I agree, yes, But what's the annoying part.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
That he is a nice guy to me, and there
has to be a threshold. And I think the way
the whole thing went with Otawny. That had to be
the the uh straw that broke the camel's back. That
had to be the final thing that broke the damn
for Mike Trout. But he stays consistent his message, and
I'm annoyed by that anymore. I think you had something
(23:04):
about Damian Willard. It came out yesterday that the Raptors
are the leaders in the clubhouse to secure Willard. What
I'm annoyed by that is that's just boring. I'm in
the content business. We can't be shipping Damon Willard to Canada.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
I would agree on some levels.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
I'd also think though that you know so much of
the NBA doesn't want him going to Miami because it
feels like it was predetermined right and then like Miami
or we went to the finals. We want the rich
to get Richard who want more competition. But more than anything,
I'm just annoyed by I don't care about all this. Well,
they could be interested, and maybe it's the Celtics. It
just tell me what he's traded, or tell me he's
(23:41):
not gonna be traded. I'll let you pick what's the
most annoying.
Speaker 15 (23:45):
UH.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
To be honest, the fact that Nutgate hasn't caught on,
And if we're doing this podcast tomorrow and it still
hasn't cut on, then I'll really be upset. So people
that are not making a big deal out of nutgate.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I'm gonna go I'm gonna agree with that, just just
to pacify you, because it's.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Clearly bothering you.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
And I'm I'm not moved off anything else to say,
it's super annoying. But the fact that we haven't made
a bigger deal about calling it nutgate.
Speaker 8 (24:18):
Why are we doing this? I do because we can.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
Aaron Rodgers was on with Pat McAfee today and I
guess they could still cuss on that show.
Speaker 15 (24:32):
This is what teams have to go through. You know,
there's there's adversity points in every season. This year, it's
happening early and people are coming coming for us, and
there's you know, some heated conversations on the sideline and
different things. I think we need to hold our poise
a little bit better across them, really just offensively. You know,
we need to to not have some of those things
(24:53):
happen on the sideline and and to be a little
better and to be a little just be a little
better competitors. You know, we need to unders saying this
is part of it. It's not always going to be pretty.
The most important thing is winning shot. What happened in
Green Bay they were down seventeen nothing and came back
and won that game. An ugly game, eighteen seventeen doesn't
fucking matter. It's like you win the game. That's the
most important thing or whatever. You got to get it done. So,
(25:15):
you know, there's been I think too many little side
conversations and we just need to grow up a little
bit on offense and lock in and do our jobs everybody,
and not point fingers at each other. And that's everybody,
you know. We don't point fingers at the coaching staff,
don't point fingers at each other. Just get back to
work and get the job done.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
I love it.
Speaker 8 (25:35):
First.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I like the point that he's making and then using
the f W at the right at the right time
to give the right emphasis to the right point that
he's made. I love that we do get too caught
up in margin and victory and style points whatever, nothing matters.
Just even last night with the Bengals, just win the
fucking game. Why can we play that for you? Because
(25:57):
we can Okay, sir, the bet.
Speaker 8 (26:00):
Is to you. Maybe it's time for the pick of
the day.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
All right.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
We continue to do this where we look ahead with
some of these picks, and what it does is allows
us to get these early lines before the line kind
of settles, you know, before it before it settles. I
look at college football this weekend and USC is a
twenty one and a half point favorite at Colorado, and
(26:27):
everybody is going to point out how bad USC's defense was,
how competitive Arizona State was, going back to going back
to last week, and.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
I don't think it matters.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Colorado's just there's just been too much attrition. You don't
figure out how to stop somebody. And I know that
Oregon a lot of it was via the run, but
USC is so explosive past the football. Give me a
USC and the twenty one and a half, give it
to me.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Now.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
That's it for the end the Motives podcast. Check us
out in the radio show three to five Eastern, twelve
two Pacific. I'm Doug Gottlieb. This is in the Bonus
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