September 29, 2023 • 32 mins
Doug previews the much-anticipated Bills-Dolphins game on Sunday in Buffalo Sunday. Doug reacts to Coach Prime's comments about his critics. Doug chooses among the deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems is most annoying today. Professional sports bettor Bill Krackomberger joins Doug to go over the weekend of NFL wagering. Plus, Doug gives out his Pick Of The Day.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, listen, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Heres
in the Bonus with Doug gottli.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What of Doug gotlib Show and the Bonus Fox Sports Radio,
I Heart Radio app.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
It's a fry and Look radio show we started.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
If you listen to this pod, of course, it rolls
over into the radio show pod. We talked a lot
about Dean. We'll talk a little bit about the Deian
here in the pod upcoming. But I do think that
the game of the weekend is Dolphins, who just scored
seventy against the Bills, who, you know, outside of Josh
Allen kind of spitting up all over themselves. So they've
been a favorite year in the last year and a
half two years to get to Super Bowl or at
least match up with the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
And they're at home now.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Last year, of course, they got the Dolphins end of
the year at home, which benefited them because you know,
warm weather team in the cool weather, but then the
weather benefit of Miami when they played in Miami and
they seem to wear down in the fourth court in
the sun. This year it's flipped and they take on
the Dolphins at home early, and you know when he
had to first weekend in October in a place like
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Orchard Park, New York.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I mean, you're gonna have an.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Absolutely perfect perfect weather. So it does come down to
what can they do to slow down or even stop
the Miami Dolphins offense that's been That has to be
the story of the first couple weeks of the season.
We talked about storylines in the Midway on Wednesday, and
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here's something I think you know, but I don't know
if you know that.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Sean McDermott.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Of course, he and I came up, grew up, if
you will, under a guy named Jim Johnson, legendary defensive
coordinatory in Philadelphia who, alongside Andy Reid, they went to
all those NFC championship games. Jim Johnson got sick with
cancer and of course passed away. Sean McDermott took over
and the defense fell off. Now I don't think his
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schemes were the only reason, but that was the first
really knock in his career. Now, he went back to
Carolina and was the defensive coordinator with Cam Newton's team
that only lost one game that year and they went
to a Super Bowl. And the defense has been good,
not great in Buffalo. Some of it is you got
a guy who turns the ball over, He's going to
put you in some tough spots. But McDermott is seen
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as an off defensive guru. So you have the defensive
mind at head coach of Buffalo playing at home, the
offensive mind of Miami and the speed, the talent, the
versatility to run it, to throw it, to get rid
of it quick.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
If you can't get.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Into that game, I don't really know. Like it's only
October and it doesn't mean a ton. But if there's
a guy who in a week you think can put
together a scheme and they've been preparing for to slow
down to the Miami Dolphins, you would think hits Sean McDermott.
And maybe the question is, hey, it doesn't even come
down to that. It comes down to, you know, can
the Dolphins actually stop the Buffalo Bills or you know,
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can the Buffalo Bills not turned the football over? But
you know, I will talk about the Buffs of Colorado
against USC a little later on on this pod and
also in the radio show if you missed it. But
in the NFL, you know, you have a couple of
games in Dallas, in New England's kind of interesting, you know,
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but there's not a lot of you know, Baltimore Cleveland
may have gotten interesting. We'll talk about the potential for
a quarterback change or a quarterback injury in that Ravens
Baltimore game, but the Ravens are so beat up, and
of course they lost to the Colts last week. You know,
you could feel like you could end the Raiders season.
If you're the if you're the Chargers, you're gonna win.
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But like of the games this weekend in the NFL,
I failed to see one bigger, uh and more interesting
than the Dolphins, who are undefeated, red hot, running by
through over whatever all the defenses so far they face
and now they get to face off with one of
their longtime divisional art rivals and the Buffalo Bills taking
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out of the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
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Speaker 3 (04:14):
Let's get to what the Fox says, and now.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
What does the thoughts say?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
This is Michael Irvin and Dion Senders. They had this
exchange on Undisputed, Does.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
It bother you when you hear people say you don't
pay your.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
No, it really what bothers me is they can't help
but expose themselves.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
And I got love for everybody.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
I don't talk about nobody, even when some of the
tractors saying he's the big mouth, that he's doing whatever
I said. I promote my team, I promote my young men.
I promote the coaches in our facility, in our system
and everything that we have and everything that accompasses that.
I never spoke negative about anyone in my life.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
I don't believe in that.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
I don't condone that.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
But God has me.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Me is for me.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
It doesn't make me sit up high to.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
Put you down load it.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
It don't do that.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
So I can't fathom why y'all keep doing this every week.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
And the thing that I love the most is not
the kids.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Yeah it's not the kids.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
It's some of the coaches, but it's not the kids.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
So you keep going because the more you're talking about me,
that kid is say, let me go find out O
what's over.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
That they don't like?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
I just I guess here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
If someone could please point out who is alleged to
have been saying these things.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I would love to hear them again.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Is there a Is there a legitimate analyst or a
high level coach who has now look behind the scenes.
I guess maybe you know, maybe, but I don't understand
how behind the scenes hurts you or whatever. Right, coaches
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stipid other coaches constantly, they are they can be the worst.
But again, even that has not been pointed out. This
is a completely made up narrative. There is not a
single soul who questioned the legitimacy of Dion Sanders at
Colorado because he took a head coaching job at Jackson State, Right,
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that is paying your dues, taking a head coaching job
at a much lower level and then exceeding anyone's reasonable
expectations in both recruiting and wins and losses. Is that's
what you're supposed to do. But I mean, like, let's
call it like it is. It's bullshit. There isn't anyone
who's I haven't seen anyone. He's had the complete support
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of the media. The only thing people have questioned is
how quickly he could get it turned around and the
treatment of the players who were there when he got there,
where he just basically ushered them out the door, and
then only now is like, yeah, I was just testing
those guys.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
No you weren't.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I mean, the question is full of shit, and on
some levels, Dion's fully shit right, He's full of shit
with the Oh dude, you know, look, I was just
trying to see somebody told them no, somebody told them
they didn't want them to see how bad.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
They wanted it.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Like, come on, dude, no, it's not you want to
get rid of those guys. You did believe you had
better players on the way, and even the guys that
you have now, you believe you have better players coming.
You don't have the bullshit bullshitters. We see it all.
But in regards to the who are these good coaches
and people sniping at him for not paying his name them,
there hasn't been one.
Speaker 7 (07:33):
Not one.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Here's the r Arrington talking about the Lions.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
Wow.
Speaker 8 (07:37):
I felt like it was very impressive for the Lions
to play the way that they did. My question coming
out of the game, based off of what you just said,
jonas if they get up against the team that is
stout against the run, and they will get up against
some teams that are stout against the run, Can they
do it in the air? Can they can they win
it throwing the ball? And to me, that's deal. That
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wasn't a question that was answered for me last night
because it didn't have to happen. Like Goff made some
good throws. Goff always is known to make some good throws.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
You know. I think he can do it in the air.
But can he do.
Speaker 8 (08:11):
It at a high enough level where they can win
games where they're going to have to utilize passing the
ball to win?
Speaker 6 (08:19):
That was my like, I was impressed. I don't think.
Speaker 8 (08:21):
I don't think I saw anything that I didn't expect
out of Detroit in this game.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
We said it in the show. We detailed it.
Speaker 8 (08:28):
They're going to come out and they're going to impose
their physical will against Green Bay's.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
That's what we talked about.
Speaker 8 (08:34):
That was going to be the game play, and that's
exactly what they did.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, Like, look they were physical, they were excellent in
both lines. But like we're we're somehow in this place
where Ryan Fitzpatrick said that Jared Goff is like what
do he say? It was like a little poor man's
Matt Ryan. Matt Ryan was MVP of the NFL. Matt
Ryan had a twenty eight to three lead in Super Bowl.
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Matt Lyon was a really, really good, notch below Hall
of Fame level quarterback. And that's exactly what Jared Golf is.
He's good. He was super frustrating to the Rams because
he wouldn't let it rip. You know that he sides
with the conservative so to not turn the football over.
He's a good enough athlete, but not really that mobile.
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He gets rid of it, He gets rid of it quick.
He's bright. He has no real like downfall other than
he's not. The question is can he win your game?
Can you win your big game on the road? Can
you win a big game when they have you know,
when you have a pass rush in your face? But
like somehow I get this all the time, Like you're
a poor man's cowherd. Thank you, Colin Cowhards arguably the
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greatest person to ever put on a headset or talking
to a microphone and do sports radio. I don't think
I'm like Skip Bayless, but Skip Bayless has been pretty
fricking successful, so I I don't even understand the pushback
over Matt Ryan. Hey, if I'm if I'm Jared Golf,
I'm being compared to a former NFL MVP who played
in the Super Bowl, was the starting quarterback for a
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decade in Atlanta. By all means, compare me all you want.
By all means, here's Dan Patrick and Chris Russ. So
they talked about the Travis Kelsey Taylor Swift story.
Speaker 9 (10:20):
Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey. Can you at least embrace
this that it's content.
Speaker 7 (10:26):
Listen, you know it's fun more than anything else. It's
a little fabricated to me, all of a sudden, meeting
mom and dad, a meeting mom a ten minutes into the.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
Relation, I was a little shaky.
Speaker 7 (10:39):
It's also good TV, Dan, as you know better than
anybody else. Let's get him going, let's get Steven a,
let's get let's get Molly involved. We are in the
entertainment business, as we know.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
I got to sit up there and scream, they're not
gonna get you know, they're not going to break.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
Down Cubs and Suzuki dropping a fly ball. I can't
say I'm going to have Steven Angel crazy on the
Cubs collapsing. So everybody can identify with that.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
That's part of it too.
Speaker 7 (11:08):
What you're trying to do is you're trying to take
something and a little different angle and trying to get
a little mileage out of it, you know, And what
you can get a lot of mileage out of Kelsey
and Swift. There are two huge stars, and if I
take a different angle with it, it will get attention.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (11:24):
My problem was that you have Patrick mahomes is ankles injured,
he gets taken out of the game, Nobody asks any
questions about his ankle. They ask him three questions about
Taylor Swift, and that's when I go, come on, guys,
let's focus on what is real here, and that's a
guy who's had an injury, and maybe that comes back,
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you know, and hurts them in the long run.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I just I think Jay stew and I'm sure he's
going to get more of this than your annoying. I
think the problem is not the initial story right where
he kind of put it out there that he was
trying to get her attention, and now all of a
sudden he got her attention, and then they were talking
and then.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
She shows a bit of game.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I think the issue becomes what we what we believe
is coming, which is the constant, all out coverage of
a story which we have no idea the depth of
legitimacy to it. Right feels like they've been out once
twice whatever. I mean, she can't really hide anywhere and
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now neither can he. And obviously, you know, financially, there's
gonna be some benefit to it. I mean, this is
a guy who did a reality show where he dated
thirty women, so he's never been shy to try and
use his popularity and looks as a football player to
get attention off the football field. And we don't know
again how legitimate this is, but it's not where it
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is now. It's where we feel like it's going that
it becomes kind of cumbersome and like, ugh, I'm over
it already. I'm not to that point. I still think
it's fun, but I do know what's coming. That's what
the Fox said, say find out who what's annoying Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 10 (13:19):
Wow, Doug, I took that whole Ryan Fitzpatrick thing completely different,
and hear me out on this what's annoying about this
particular exchange last night for those who don't know, and
Doug just talked about it. Ryan Fitzpatrick called Jared Goff
a poor man's Matt Ryan prior to the game, and
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then Goff was on set after the game and he
made sure he got this in.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I thought I played better throughout the rest of the game.
I hope it's up to your standards.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
He played.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
He played very well.
Speaker 11 (13:52):
Okay, I didn't know it was a poor man's anything,
but he hears that.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
He's about it.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Ryan's a pretty good player.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
I'll give you a hard time. I appreciate it, man.
Speaker 10 (14:12):
I think what annoys me about this is Ryan Fitzpatrick
holding back because I don't know, Doug. When people say
that you're a poor man's Colin Cowherd, you might not
take it that as an insult, but they're trying to
insult you. I think Ryan Fitzpatrick was trying to insult
Jared got by saying is poor man's Matt Ryan. I
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went to the Merriam Webster definition of the term poorman,
someone such as a performer who was like another person
in some ways but not as talented or successful. Ye,
So to me that that was meant as criticism, like
that was meant as a as an insult. So for
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Fitzpatrick in that moment to be like, well, Matt Ryan's
pretty good to me. That's coming off of your insult
like you No, no, just stick to it. Just plainly
tell Jared Goff, as you're sitting right next to him,
you are a poor man's Matt Ryant. You're not as
talented and you're not as successful as opposed to like
this chummy. You know what I meant. You know, when
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people use the term poor man's they're trying to insult you.
Whether you take it that way or not, that's that's
up to you. But I found that to be annoying
about that exchange. Darius Slay. I don't know if you
saw this, but Darius Slay is the cornerback for the
Eagles and he's frustrated with the generation of players that
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are playing right now. He says, when it comes to
the league, a lot of guys don't want to help
other guys become pros, and I don't like that about
the league. I ain't ever gonna be one of those guys.
I think what he's saying is that the current crop
of NFL players are reluctant to be mentors. And let
me offer up this explanation, Doug Millennials and gen Zers
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are becoming veterans. They are the most selfish and the
second most selfish generation in the history of mankind. So
it makes sense that there are fewer mentors when you're
when you spend a lot of time concerned about yourself,
you're not going to think about trying to make other
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people better.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
That's funny. This is really fun is the most selfish
and the second most selfish.
Speaker 10 (16:30):
And they're becoming veterans. And they're becoming bosses too.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
By the way, tell me you really feel right.
Speaker 10 (16:38):
Mark Cuban was on First Take this week and he
said something that raised my eyre.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
Well.
Speaker 11 (16:44):
I think fans looked at it from one perspective. I
don't think it was as big a problem as it
was made out to be. And I think a lot
of the influence came from gamblers, you know, because teams
we've transitioned from a world of hey, this is my team.
I grew up in Man, I've always been a MAVs
fan to all right on social media, have to talk
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if not more is well, I got this bet in
this game, or what what are the odds going to be?
What's the line going to be? And that influences a
lot of the perspective of load management, because you know
who am I going to bet on? And that's unfortunate.
But that's the reality of the world we live in.
Speaker 10 (17:22):
This is what annoys me, Doug. The fans are the
people that like save up their money to go to
that one game to see one player play, and they
don't play. I think that's what is ignoring them. This
is that that I think is where the real unfairness
plays out, when you have enough money to go to
one game to see your player and he doesn't play.
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So I disagree with him. This was not a gambling thing.
Maybe there was an aspect of that, but I think
I think the ground swell was from these four fans
that can't really afford to go to games than they
do and then their guy doesn't play.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
I think everybody hates it.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Owners hate it, fans hate it, gambler gamblers hate it.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
I do.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
I I agree with you on the general premise though,
is that Cuban's comments are a little bit out of
touch there, right, and because he has no data to
back it up, and he definitely has a guy at
that position the way he runs businesses, there's absolutely data,
so I would agree with you. What's that that.
Speaker 10 (18:29):
That Fitzpatrick's tacked millennials and gen Zers and margument.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Wow, I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with millennials
and gen Zers your line. That's one of the great
lines in the history of our show. That millennials and
gen zers are the most and second most selfish generation
in the history of generations, and the fact that they're
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now leaders is a scary, scary thought.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Good, why are we doing this?
Speaker 4 (19:06):
I do all.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Because we can.
Speaker 10 (19:12):
Hey, Doug, the the Mariners are still alive for the
wild card in the American League because shortstop JP Crawford
walked off the Rangers last night and then he was
on live TV afterwards.
Speaker 12 (19:26):
See what they should be doing, and there's a lot
of celebrating that's gonna happen inside.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Enjoyed this when let's walk a.
Speaker 12 (19:39):
Celebration taking that over here, emotions taking over here.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Well, first of all, I love it. It's fun.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Second of all, I've actually watched these games, this Seattle
series that they lost two of three to Texas, right
that they really I really needed already, Houston Scuba really
really need. They came behind and beat and beat Texas
and a walk off. But the other part to that
awesome sound is the sideline reporter for the Mariners. She's
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really good, but she has the classic like uh let
I can't like if you replay that, if you would,
you hear her voice, it's classic, like TV person voice what.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
They should be doing.
Speaker 12 (20:25):
And there's a lot of celebrating that's gonna happen inside.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
There's a lot of celebrating, right, it's just.
Speaker 12 (20:36):
Amazing celebration taking that over here, emotions taking over it.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Is that taught to people nowadays? I can't remember where
it's been so long as I've been in college.
Speaker 9 (20:49):
Is that what we teach people now to have the
staccato sound like this?
Speaker 3 (20:55):
No, I don't.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I don't think it is anymore. She's her name is
Jennifer m I believe, by.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
The way, she's not the only one.
Speaker 6 (21:02):
I want to say, she's.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Not the only one.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
I'm not like picking our book, but it is kind
of like classic baseball and broadcaster and you know, and
she sounds. I haven't looked, but I would guess that
she's also done like TV anchorwork, right, that she's been
an anchor person, because that's you know, her professional background.
She just it's she's a she's been in Seattle forever
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and cover the MS forever. But yeah, she I've been
watching those Mariners games and she has staccato. I guess
is that that's the appropriate term. It's a classic. Why
can we play that for you? Because we can.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
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the air, so let me ask you about the game
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being played at Wembley Stadium because you won't get a
chance to preview that one. On the Fox Sports Radio show,
Atlanta taking on Jacksonville. Jacksonville coming off two straight losses,
including a really disappointing one of the Houston Texans. Now
they go to their home away from home and playing
in England, their three point favorite in the totals forty three.
Speaker 13 (22:35):
I lean toward Atlanta and that game, maybe because I
very rarely put a motion into things. Because Jacksonville cost
me ten grand last week. I lost all ten of
my entries in the Survivor pool in Vegas, which were
one thousand bucks sheets. I'm kind of mad at them
right now, But actually I do lean Atlanta and that game.
Little travel there for both teams, as we know, we
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will be on their game start six thirty Vegas times.
I'm actually in Atlantic now, so nine to thirty my
time will be on air already. And you know, I
did dabble a little bit on Atlanta and that game.
A rare side for me that I actually did bet overseas.
Try not to. I tried to bet overseas games because
you don't know, really what kind of a fan base
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is going to be there for what team. If at
the public Team America team where you know, I say,
like Kansas City or Dallas, you know you're going to
have more of those fans in the stadium. I don't
know what's going to be I would say probably a
little more Jacksonville fans there than Atlanta. But I did
take the points with Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Okay, took the points with Atlanta. Didn't sound firmly into it,
but mostly it's because of your how ticked off you
are at Jacksall right, here's a big one. Miami went
up seventy last weekend at home going to Buffalo where
they lost last year. But it was closer than people thought.
But it last year was in the cold. This year
perfect weather on Sunday in Orchard Park. Take it on
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the Bills, who bounced back after that loss to the Jets.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Week one of the season.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Bills are two and a half point favorite, total fifty
three and a half.
Speaker 13 (24:08):
This is a different Miami team than Buffalo has probably
faced in the past, coming off those big points and
having a real good season, and this year so far, Buffalo,
on the other hand, struggling back and forth for a
couple teams. And I know, convincingly they won now, but yeah,
they're you know, remember that that first Week one. Now,
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this game, strangely enough opened up two and a half.
It's still kind of two and a half almost everywhere
I expected a little bit of home, though a little
bit of home favorite move movement here really didn't get it.
I thought this game was gonna go up to three.
I still see minus two and a half, that even
a couple two and a half minus twenty. But this
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is one of those games where I just don't know
who is better in this spot because of what's happening.
Buffalo playing better Miami and being a powerhouse. This is
one of those games where I'm looking forward to watch
a nice hid total of fifty three and a half.
I'm gonna sit on the sidelines here and watch this
game as a fan, which.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
Is very rare.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
All right.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Baltimore taken on Cleveland's talk of Deshaun Watson having some
sort of injury issue today at practice. Cleveland's a point
and a half favorite. The total thirty nine points. I
know Baltimore is banged up with thirty nine points. Baltimore
lost after having a big lead against Indy last week
at home. Now they're on the road. Weather is not
a problem. Total thirty nine Cleveland and point and a
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half favorite.
Speaker 13 (25:36):
So I get a call about two and a half,
a little bit more than two hours and forty five
minutes ago, and they say hey, correct, watch is probably
not going to play like ninety percent. Baltimore plus two
is a really good play plus two and a half
maybe even money line, And I say, you know, I
haven't seen much out of Watson this year, and I
expected him to have a really good year after last
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year only playing partial season, I thought he was gonna
DC know the preseason.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
This year.
Speaker 13 (26:05):
You know, he didn't get a lot of rest, but
he did get reps up where I thought he was
gonna be okay and maybe you know, come back to
one hundred percent. Didn't really see a lot of that
out of him this year, but yet I did take
a bet on Baltimore money line plus one twenty, which
is now down to like plus one oh five plus
one ten. So just based on a value bet of
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him when they do confirm, because I'll tell you what,
from the two different sources that called me, they're usually right.
They're usually spot on. So I think he's not playing.
I think when it's positively announced we're going to have
this game, flip flop and and Baltimore, it becomes the
favorite in this game, even though they are in Cleveland,
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the old rival, you know, after what happened there when
R Modell moved the team out under the cover of darkness.
So I think, I think here we have a situation
where we're going to have Baltimore be the favorite. So
if anyone was thinking about getting Baltimore, I think now
is the time. I have pretty good sources there.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Okay, I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
I had I had, I had a similar call and
saw some similar stuff go down. Colts now have their
young quarterback back cleared for concussion protocol and he's starting.
I know that's a good thing or a bad thing.
That game's now a pickham against the Rams in India.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Who do you like?
Speaker 13 (27:24):
That game is another one of those games. Probably setting
by the sidelines here. I just don't know. I have
to see Indye again.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Now.
Speaker 13 (27:31):
Listen, Indian's played very good this year, kept in close games,
beat out. Uh you know, they've really none on that.
They actually went out right in a good dog spot.
Now we have a Rams team that opened up first
week and they weren't supposed to be good. All all
the guys I know, sharp guys, so square, everyone said
all the Rams are. The Rams have actually played much
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better that first week. After beating in the Seattle, they
kind of opened my eyes a little bit.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
I know that.
Speaker 13 (27:57):
Uh they, like I said, they played better, but maybe
not as of late last week. This NFL, anything can happen.
Any given week, anything can and will happen. This game
opened up looks like it opened up around pick them
or even one at the Sharp sportsbook here in Vegas.
That opens up lines. It's pick them right now, solid.
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This is a vanilla number kind of across the screen
at most spots. This is gonna be a sideline game
for me sitting and watch on the sidelines here. If
it did go to one and a half. Either way though,
I'll tell you because there is maybe an odd tick
to number to a one, I would take either team
the dog in a teaser going through the key numbers
of three and seven. I like to do that a lot.
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It bit me in the butt last night with green Bay,
but good enough. I only had one teaser. It could
have been a lot of teaser spots last night for
green Bay. Right now, nothing unless it goes to one
and a half.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Chargers Raiders. Chargers finally going to win, but survive to
do so. They're five point favorites at home in the
totals four to eight and a half.
Speaker 13 (28:58):
Boy, are the Raiders this bad? Like I like? I
five and a half sounds like a lot of points
for the Raiders, you know, But then guys, think about
that first week that they seventeen sixteen over Denver. I
just don't know if they're that bad. Yes, they had
a bad week again last week. But listen, you can't
go by the Las Vegas home crowd. There was sixty
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five seventy terrible Powells screaming Yellen in the stadium Pittsburgh fans.
Vegas tried to come back to the end coaching era.
As we all know, I am just one of those
guys that can't do anything right with these Chargers. If anything,
I definitely leaned towards the Las Vegas with the points there. Okay,
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I know I do.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Give me, give me, give me two more that you like,
so I know where to lead.
Speaker 13 (29:48):
You sure, sure, sure, I actually like you know. I
don't like teasing the road teams, but I do like
Kansas City over the Jets this week. Teasing down from
nine you want to go you want to go under.
So you want to go under? You want to go
to two and a half minus two and a half
With Kansas City and the other leg of that teaser
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where will probably be Tennessee at home. Whenever there's a
low total, boy, if there's a spot to tease through
key numbers, that's usually money. So here you have a
total of forty one in Cincinnati, Tennessee. I like to
go through the key numbers of the three and the seven.
Take Tennessee plus eight and a half day Kansas City
minus two and a half. It looks a lot easier
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than it is. That's why you pay a tax. You
pay a penalty on Instead of paying eleven to ten,
you're going to pay thirteen to ten or they're fourteen
to ten, depending on how big of a teaser you take.
I also look to Monday night football, ugly games, Seattle
on the Giants. I kind of like Seattle on the spot.
Seattle a lot better than the Giants, trust me, and
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this game to be under a field goal shocks me.
So I like Seattle, even though they are on the
road in New York, which doesn't seem to mean much
as we know the first week Dallas beating them forty
to nothing in New York. There's a there's a couple
of bets I do like for this weekend awesome stuff.
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Speaker 3 (31:31):
Crack, thanks so much, thanks to take care. Let's get
to our pick of the day.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Okay, sir, the bet is to you in Maybe it's
time for the pick of the day.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I actually got to pick on tonight's game. You know
there's a big NFL, big college football game tonight where
you have Utah State take it on Oregon State.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Organ State.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
It's a four point favorite. Organ State hasn't got what
they want out of dj Angalele and Utah. We still
still don't know if cam Rising is gonna play. I
like Utah in this spot. There are four points. Dog
on the road in corvallis their defense, their line play.
You know they won the Pac twelve last year. They
got great culture. I like Utah. I think we're given
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Oregon State the excuse that they played on the road
last week.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
I just don't think they're as good as the Utes.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
I think the Utes are, it's they're on a crash
course to take on USC again the Pack telve championship game.
I got USC and I'll take I mean, ask you.
I get Utah and I'll take the four points. All right,
that's it for the end of Bonus Podcast. Thanks so
much for listening. I'm Doug Gottlieb.
All right, listen, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Heres
in the Bonus with Doug gottli.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What of Doug gotlib Show and the Bonus Fox Sports Radio,
I Heart Radio app.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
It's a fry and Look radio show we started.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
If you listen to this pod, of course, it rolls
over into the radio show pod. We talked a lot
about Dean. We'll talk a little bit about the Deian
here in the pod upcoming. But I do think that
the game of the weekend is Dolphins, who just scored
seventy against the Bills, who, you know, outside of Josh
Allen kind of spitting up all over themselves. So they've
been a favorite year in the last year and a
half two years to get to Super Bowl or at
least match up with the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
And they're at home now.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Last year, of course, they got the Dolphins end of
the year at home, which benefited them because you know,
warm weather team in the cool weather, but then the
weather benefit of Miami when they played in Miami and
they seem to wear down in the fourth court in
the sun. This year it's flipped and they take on
the Dolphins at home early, and you know when he
had to first weekend in October in a place like
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Orchard Park, New York.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I mean, you're gonna have an.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Absolutely perfect perfect weather. So it does come down to
what can they do to slow down or even stop
the Miami Dolphins offense that's been That has to be
the story of the first couple weeks of the season.
We talked about storylines in the Midway on Wednesday, and
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here's something I think you know, but I don't know
if you know that.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Sean McDermott.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Of course, he and I came up, grew up, if
you will, under a guy named Jim Johnson, legendary defensive
coordinatory in Philadelphia who, alongside Andy Reid, they went to
all those NFC championship games. Jim Johnson got sick with
cancer and of course passed away. Sean McDermott took over
and the defense fell off. Now I don't think his
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schemes were the only reason, but that was the first
really knock in his career. Now, he went back to
Carolina and was the defensive coordinator with Cam Newton's team
that only lost one game that year and they went
to a Super Bowl. And the defense has been good,
not great in Buffalo. Some of it is you got
a guy who turns the ball over, He's going to
put you in some tough spots. But McDermott is seen
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as an off defensive guru. So you have the defensive
mind at head coach of Buffalo playing at home, the
offensive mind of Miami and the speed, the talent, the
versatility to run it, to throw it, to get rid
of it quick.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
If you can't get.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Into that game, I don't really know. Like it's only
October and it doesn't mean a ton. But if there's
a guy who in a week you think can put
together a scheme and they've been preparing for to slow
down to the Miami Dolphins, you would think hits Sean McDermott.
And maybe the question is, hey, it doesn't even come
down to that. It comes down to, you know, can
the Dolphins actually stop the Buffalo Bills or you know,
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can the Buffalo Bills not turned the football over? But
you know, I will talk about the Buffs of Colorado
against USC a little later on on this pod and
also in the radio show if you missed it. But
in the NFL, you know, you have a couple of
games in Dallas, in New England's kind of interesting, you know,
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but there's not a lot of you know, Baltimore Cleveland
may have gotten interesting. We'll talk about the potential for
a quarterback change or a quarterback injury in that Ravens
Baltimore game, but the Ravens are so beat up, and
of course they lost to the Colts last week. You know,
you could feel like you could end the Raiders season.
If you're the if you're the Chargers, you're gonna win.
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But like of the games this weekend in the NFL,
I failed to see one bigger, uh and more interesting
than the Dolphins, who are undefeated, red hot, running by
through over whatever all the defenses so far they face
and now they get to face off with one of
their longtime divisional art rivals and the Buffalo Bills taking
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out of the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
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Speaker 3 (04:14):
Let's get to what the Fox says, and now.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
What does the thoughts say?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
This is Michael Irvin and Dion Senders. They had this
exchange on Undisputed, Does.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
It bother you when you hear people say you don't
pay your.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
No, it really what bothers me is they can't help
but expose themselves.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
And I got love for everybody.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
I don't talk about nobody, even when some of the
tractors saying he's the big mouth, that he's doing whatever
I said. I promote my team, I promote my young men.
I promote the coaches in our facility, in our system
and everything that we have and everything that accompasses that.
I never spoke negative about anyone in my life.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
I don't believe in that.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
I don't condone that.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
But God has me.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Me is for me.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
It doesn't make me sit up high to.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
Put you down load it.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
It don't do that.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
So I can't fathom why y'all keep doing this every week.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
And the thing that I love the most is not
the kids.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Yeah it's not the kids.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
It's some of the coaches, but it's not the kids.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
So you keep going because the more you're talking about me,
that kid is say, let me go find out O
what's over.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
That they don't like?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
I just I guess here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
If someone could please point out who is alleged to
have been saying these things.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I would love to hear them again.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Is there a Is there a legitimate analyst or a
high level coach who has now look behind the scenes.
I guess maybe you know, maybe, but I don't understand
how behind the scenes hurts you or whatever. Right, coaches
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stipid other coaches constantly, they are they can be the worst.
But again, even that has not been pointed out. This
is a completely made up narrative. There is not a
single soul who questioned the legitimacy of Dion Sanders at
Colorado because he took a head coaching job at Jackson State, Right,
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that is paying your dues, taking a head coaching job
at a much lower level and then exceeding anyone's reasonable
expectations in both recruiting and wins and losses. Is that's
what you're supposed to do. But I mean, like, let's
call it like it is. It's bullshit. There isn't anyone
who's I haven't seen anyone. He's had the complete support
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of the media. The only thing people have questioned is
how quickly he could get it turned around and the
treatment of the players who were there when he got there,
where he just basically ushered them out the door, and
then only now is like, yeah, I was just testing
those guys.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
No you weren't.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I mean, the question is full of shit, and on
some levels, Dion's fully shit right, He's full of shit
with the Oh dude, you know, look, I was just
trying to see somebody told them no, somebody told them
they didn't want them to see how bad.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
They wanted it.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Like, come on, dude, no, it's not you want to
get rid of those guys. You did believe you had
better players on the way, and even the guys that
you have now, you believe you have better players coming.
You don't have the bullshit bullshitters. We see it all.
But in regards to the who are these good coaches
and people sniping at him for not paying his name them,
there hasn't been one.
Speaker 7 (07:33):
Not one.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Here's the r Arrington talking about the Lions.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
Wow.
Speaker 8 (07:37):
I felt like it was very impressive for the Lions
to play the way that they did. My question coming
out of the game, based off of what you just said,
jonas if they get up against the team that is
stout against the run, and they will get up against
some teams that are stout against the run, Can they
do it in the air? Can they can they win
it throwing the ball? And to me, that's deal. That
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wasn't a question that was answered for me last night
because it didn't have to happen. Like Goff made some
good throws. Goff always is known to make some good throws.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
You know. I think he can do it in the air.
But can he do.
Speaker 8 (08:11):
It at a high enough level where they can win
games where they're going to have to utilize passing the
ball to win?
Speaker 6 (08:19):
That was my like, I was impressed. I don't think.
Speaker 8 (08:21):
I don't think I saw anything that I didn't expect
out of Detroit in this game.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
We said it in the show. We detailed it.
Speaker 8 (08:28):
They're going to come out and they're going to impose
their physical will against Green Bay's.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
That's what we talked about.
Speaker 8 (08:34):
That was going to be the game play, and that's
exactly what they did.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, Like, look they were physical, they were excellent in
both lines. But like we're we're somehow in this place
where Ryan Fitzpatrick said that Jared Goff is like what
do he say? It was like a little poor man's
Matt Ryan. Matt Ryan was MVP of the NFL. Matt
Ryan had a twenty eight to three lead in Super Bowl.
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Matt Lyon was a really, really good, notch below Hall
of Fame level quarterback. And that's exactly what Jared Golf is.
He's good. He was super frustrating to the Rams because
he wouldn't let it rip. You know that he sides
with the conservative so to not turn the football over.
He's a good enough athlete, but not really that mobile.
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He gets rid of it, He gets rid of it quick.
He's bright. He has no real like downfall other than
he's not. The question is can he win your game?
Can you win your big game on the road? Can
you win a big game when they have you know,
when you have a pass rush in your face? But
like somehow I get this all the time, Like you're
a poor man's cowherd. Thank you, Colin Cowhards arguably the
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greatest person to ever put on a headset or talking
to a microphone and do sports radio. I don't think
I'm like Skip Bayless, but Skip Bayless has been pretty
fricking successful, so I I don't even understand the pushback
over Matt Ryan. Hey, if I'm if I'm Jared Golf,
I'm being compared to a former NFL MVP who played
in the Super Bowl, was the starting quarterback for a
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decade in Atlanta. By all means, compare me all you want.
By all means, here's Dan Patrick and Chris Russ. So
they talked about the Travis Kelsey Taylor Swift story.
Speaker 9 (10:20):
Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey. Can you at least embrace
this that it's content.
Speaker 7 (10:26):
Listen, you know it's fun more than anything else. It's
a little fabricated to me, all of a sudden, meeting
mom and dad, a meeting mom a ten minutes into the.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
Relation, I was a little shaky.
Speaker 7 (10:39):
It's also good TV, Dan, as you know better than
anybody else. Let's get him going, let's get Steven a,
let's get let's get Molly involved. We are in the
entertainment business, as we know.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
I got to sit up there and scream, they're not
gonna get you know, they're not going to break.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
Down Cubs and Suzuki dropping a fly ball. I can't
say I'm going to have Steven Angel crazy on the
Cubs collapsing. So everybody can identify with that.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
That's part of it too.
Speaker 7 (11:08):
What you're trying to do is you're trying to take
something and a little different angle and trying to get
a little mileage out of it, you know, And what
you can get a lot of mileage out of Kelsey
and Swift. There are two huge stars, and if I
take a different angle with it, it will get attention.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (11:24):
My problem was that you have Patrick mahomes is ankles injured,
he gets taken out of the game, Nobody asks any
questions about his ankle. They ask him three questions about
Taylor Swift, and that's when I go, come on, guys,
let's focus on what is real here, and that's a
guy who's had an injury, and maybe that comes back,
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you know, and hurts them in the long run.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I just I think Jay stew and I'm sure he's
going to get more of this than your annoying. I
think the problem is not the initial story right where
he kind of put it out there that he was
trying to get her attention, and now all of a
sudden he got her attention, and then they were talking
and then.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
She shows a bit of game.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I think the issue becomes what we what we believe
is coming, which is the constant, all out coverage of
a story which we have no idea the depth of
legitimacy to it. Right feels like they've been out once
twice whatever. I mean, she can't really hide anywhere and
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now neither can he. And obviously, you know, financially, there's
gonna be some benefit to it. I mean, this is
a guy who did a reality show where he dated
thirty women, so he's never been shy to try and
use his popularity and looks as a football player to
get attention off the football field. And we don't know
again how legitimate this is, but it's not where it
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is now. It's where we feel like it's going that
it becomes kind of cumbersome and like, ugh, I'm over
it already. I'm not to that point. I still think
it's fun, but I do know what's coming. That's what
the Fox said, say find out who what's annoying Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 10 (13:19):
Wow, Doug, I took that whole Ryan Fitzpatrick thing completely different,
and hear me out on this what's annoying about this
particular exchange last night for those who don't know, and
Doug just talked about it. Ryan Fitzpatrick called Jared Goff
a poor man's Matt Ryan prior to the game, and
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then Goff was on set after the game and he
made sure he got this in.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I thought I played better throughout the rest of the game.
I hope it's up to your standards.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
He played.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
He played very well.
Speaker 11 (13:52):
Okay, I didn't know it was a poor man's anything,
but he hears that.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
He's about it.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Ryan's a pretty good player.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
I'll give you a hard time. I appreciate it, man.
Speaker 10 (14:12):
I think what annoys me about this is Ryan Fitzpatrick
holding back because I don't know, Doug. When people say
that you're a poor man's Colin Cowherd, you might not
take it that as an insult, but they're trying to
insult you. I think Ryan Fitzpatrick was trying to insult
Jared got by saying is poor man's Matt Ryan. I
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went to the Merriam Webster definition of the term poorman,
someone such as a performer who was like another person
in some ways but not as talented or successful. Ye,
So to me that that was meant as criticism, like
that was meant as a as an insult. So for
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Fitzpatrick in that moment to be like, well, Matt Ryan's
pretty good to me. That's coming off of your insult
like you No, no, just stick to it. Just plainly
tell Jared Goff, as you're sitting right next to him,
you are a poor man's Matt Ryant. You're not as
talented and you're not as successful as opposed to like
this chummy. You know what I meant. You know, when
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people use the term poor man's they're trying to insult you.
Whether you take it that way or not, that's that's
up to you. But I found that to be annoying
about that exchange. Darius Slay. I don't know if you
saw this, but Darius Slay is the cornerback for the
Eagles and he's frustrated with the generation of players that
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are playing right now. He says, when it comes to
the league, a lot of guys don't want to help
other guys become pros, and I don't like that about
the league. I ain't ever gonna be one of those guys.
I think what he's saying is that the current crop
of NFL players are reluctant to be mentors. And let
me offer up this explanation, Doug Millennials and gen Zers
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are becoming veterans. They are the most selfish and the
second most selfish generation in the history of mankind. So
it makes sense that there are fewer mentors when you're
when you spend a lot of time concerned about yourself,
you're not going to think about trying to make other
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people better.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
That's funny. This is really fun is the most selfish
and the second most selfish.
Speaker 10 (16:30):
And they're becoming veterans. And they're becoming bosses too.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
By the way, tell me you really feel right.
Speaker 10 (16:38):
Mark Cuban was on First Take this week and he
said something that raised my eyre.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
Well.
Speaker 11 (16:44):
I think fans looked at it from one perspective. I
don't think it was as big a problem as it
was made out to be. And I think a lot
of the influence came from gamblers, you know, because teams
we've transitioned from a world of hey, this is my team.
I grew up in Man, I've always been a MAVs
fan to all right on social media, have to talk
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if not more is well, I got this bet in
this game, or what what are the odds going to be?
What's the line going to be? And that influences a
lot of the perspective of load management, because you know
who am I going to bet on? And that's unfortunate.
But that's the reality of the world we live in.
Speaker 10 (17:22):
This is what annoys me, Doug. The fans are the
people that like save up their money to go to
that one game to see one player play, and they
don't play. I think that's what is ignoring them. This
is that that I think is where the real unfairness
plays out, when you have enough money to go to
one game to see your player and he doesn't play.
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So I disagree with him. This was not a gambling thing.
Maybe there was an aspect of that, but I think
I think the ground swell was from these four fans
that can't really afford to go to games than they
do and then their guy doesn't play.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
I think everybody hates it.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Owners hate it, fans hate it, gambler gamblers hate it.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
I do.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
I I agree with you on the general premise though,
is that Cuban's comments are a little bit out of
touch there, right, and because he has no data to
back it up, and he definitely has a guy at
that position the way he runs businesses, there's absolutely data,
so I would agree with you. What's that that.
Speaker 10 (18:29):
That Fitzpatrick's tacked millennials and gen Zers and margument.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Wow, I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with millennials
and gen Zers your line. That's one of the great
lines in the history of our show. That millennials and
gen zers are the most and second most selfish generation
in the history of generations, and the fact that they're
(18:58):
now leaders is a scary, scary thought.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Good, why are we doing this?
Speaker 4 (19:06):
I do all.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Because we can.
Speaker 10 (19:12):
Hey, Doug, the the Mariners are still alive for the
wild card in the American League because shortstop JP Crawford
walked off the Rangers last night and then he was
on live TV afterwards.
Speaker 12 (19:26):
See what they should be doing, and there's a lot
of celebrating that's gonna happen inside.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Enjoyed this when let's walk a.
Speaker 12 (19:39):
Celebration taking that over here, emotions taking over here.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Well, first of all, I love it. It's fun.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Second of all, I've actually watched these games, this Seattle
series that they lost two of three to Texas, right
that they really I really needed already, Houston Scuba really
really need. They came behind and beat and beat Texas
and a walk off. But the other part to that
awesome sound is the sideline reporter for the Mariners. She's
(20:13):
really good, but she has the classic like uh let
I can't like if you replay that, if you would,
you hear her voice, it's classic, like TV person voice what.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
They should be doing.
Speaker 12 (20:25):
And there's a lot of celebrating that's gonna happen inside.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
There's a lot of celebrating, right, it's just.
Speaker 12 (20:36):
Amazing celebration taking that over here, emotions taking over it.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Is that taught to people nowadays? I can't remember where
it's been so long as I've been in college.
Speaker 9 (20:49):
Is that what we teach people now to have the
staccato sound like this?
Speaker 3 (20:55):
No, I don't.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I don't think it is anymore. She's her name is
Jennifer m I believe, by.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
The way, she's not the only one.
Speaker 6 (21:02):
I want to say, she's.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Not the only one.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
I'm not like picking our book, but it is kind
of like classic baseball and broadcaster and you know, and
she sounds. I haven't looked, but I would guess that
she's also done like TV anchorwork, right, that she's been
an anchor person, because that's you know, her professional background.
She just it's she's a she's been in Seattle forever
(21:28):
and cover the MS forever. But yeah, she I've been
watching those Mariners games and she has staccato. I guess
is that that's the appropriate term. It's a classic. Why
can we play that for you? Because we can.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
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Speaker 2 (21:52):
All right, let's welcome in Bill Krackenberger, Professional Sports Better
along with Jef Schwartz and Brian know He co hosts
Fox Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff, present by bet MGM,
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They'll take you all the way to kick Off on
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mg M. All Right, you guys will already be on
the air, so let me ask you about the game
(22:15):
being played at Wembley Stadium because you won't get a
chance to preview that one. On the Fox Sports Radio show,
Atlanta taking on Jacksonville. Jacksonville coming off two straight losses,
including a really disappointing one of the Houston Texans. Now
they go to their home away from home and playing
in England, their three point favorite in the totals forty three.
Speaker 13 (22:35):
I lean toward Atlanta and that game, maybe because I
very rarely put a motion into things. Because Jacksonville cost
me ten grand last week. I lost all ten of
my entries in the Survivor pool in Vegas, which were
one thousand bucks sheets. I'm kind of mad at them
right now, But actually I do lean Atlanta and that game.
Little travel there for both teams, as we know, we
(22:55):
will be on their game start six thirty Vegas times.
I'm actually in Atlantic now, so nine to thirty my
time will be on air already. And you know, I
did dabble a little bit on Atlanta and that game.
A rare side for me that I actually did bet overseas.
Try not to. I tried to bet overseas games because
you don't know, really what kind of a fan base
(23:18):
is going to be there for what team. If at
the public Team America team where you know, I say,
like Kansas City or Dallas, you know you're going to
have more of those fans in the stadium. I don't
know what's going to be I would say probably a
little more Jacksonville fans there than Atlanta. But I did
take the points with Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Okay, took the points with Atlanta. Didn't sound firmly into it,
but mostly it's because of your how ticked off you
are at Jacksall right, here's a big one. Miami went
up seventy last weekend at home going to Buffalo where
they lost last year. But it was closer than people thought.
But it last year was in the cold. This year
perfect weather on Sunday in Orchard Park. Take it on
(23:59):
the Bills, who bounced back after that loss to the Jets.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Week one of the season.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Bills are two and a half point favorite, total fifty
three and a half.
Speaker 13 (24:08):
This is a different Miami team than Buffalo has probably
faced in the past, coming off those big points and
having a real good season, and this year so far, Buffalo,
on the other hand, struggling back and forth for a
couple teams. And I know, convincingly they won now, but yeah,
they're you know, remember that that first Week one. Now,
(24:28):
this game, strangely enough opened up two and a half.
It's still kind of two and a half almost everywhere
I expected a little bit of home, though a little
bit of home favorite move movement here really didn't get it.
I thought this game was gonna go up to three.
I still see minus two and a half, that even
a couple two and a half minus twenty. But this
(24:51):
is one of those games where I just don't know
who is better in this spot because of what's happening.
Buffalo playing better Miami and being a powerhouse. This is
one of those games where I'm looking forward to watch
a nice hid total of fifty three and a half.
I'm gonna sit on the sidelines here and watch this
game as a fan, which.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
Is very rare.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
All right.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Baltimore taken on Cleveland's talk of Deshaun Watson having some
sort of injury issue today at practice. Cleveland's a point
and a half favorite. The total thirty nine points. I
know Baltimore is banged up with thirty nine points. Baltimore
lost after having a big lead against Indy last week
at home. Now they're on the road. Weather is not
a problem. Total thirty nine Cleveland and point and a
(25:34):
half favorite.
Speaker 13 (25:36):
So I get a call about two and a half,
a little bit more than two hours and forty five
minutes ago, and they say hey, correct, watch is probably
not going to play like ninety percent. Baltimore plus two
is a really good play plus two and a half
maybe even money line, And I say, you know, I
haven't seen much out of Watson this year, and I
expected him to have a really good year after last
(25:58):
year only playing partial season, I thought he was gonna
DC know the preseason.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
This year.
Speaker 13 (26:05):
You know, he didn't get a lot of rest, but
he did get reps up where I thought he was
gonna be okay and maybe you know, come back to
one hundred percent. Didn't really see a lot of that
out of him this year, but yet I did take
a bet on Baltimore money line plus one twenty, which
is now down to like plus one oh five plus
one ten. So just based on a value bet of
(26:25):
him when they do confirm, because I'll tell you what,
from the two different sources that called me, they're usually right.
They're usually spot on. So I think he's not playing.
I think when it's positively announced we're going to have
this game, flip flop and and Baltimore, it becomes the
favorite in this game, even though they are in Cleveland,
(26:45):
the old rival, you know, after what happened there when
R Modell moved the team out under the cover of darkness.
So I think, I think here we have a situation
where we're going to have Baltimore be the favorite. So
if anyone was thinking about getting Baltimore, I think now
is the time. I have pretty good sources there.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Okay, I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
I had I had, I had a similar call and
saw some similar stuff go down. Colts now have their
young quarterback back cleared for concussion protocol and he's starting.
I know that's a good thing or a bad thing.
That game's now a pickham against the Rams in India.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Who do you like?
Speaker 13 (27:24):
That game is another one of those games. Probably setting
by the sidelines here. I just don't know. I have
to see Indye again.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Now.
Speaker 13 (27:31):
Listen, Indian's played very good this year, kept in close games,
beat out. Uh you know, they've really none on that.
They actually went out right in a good dog spot.
Now we have a Rams team that opened up first
week and they weren't supposed to be good. All all
the guys I know, sharp guys, so square, everyone said
all the Rams are. The Rams have actually played much
(27:51):
better that first week. After beating in the Seattle, they
kind of opened my eyes a little bit.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
I know that.
Speaker 13 (27:57):
Uh they, like I said, they played better, but maybe
not as of late last week. This NFL, anything can happen.
Any given week, anything can and will happen. This game
opened up looks like it opened up around pick them
or even one at the Sharp sportsbook here in Vegas.
That opens up lines. It's pick them right now, solid.
(28:18):
This is a vanilla number kind of across the screen
at most spots. This is gonna be a sideline game
for me sitting and watch on the sidelines here. If
it did go to one and a half. Either way though,
I'll tell you because there is maybe an odd tick
to number to a one, I would take either team
the dog in a teaser going through the key numbers
of three and seven. I like to do that a lot.
(28:39):
It bit me in the butt last night with green Bay,
but good enough. I only had one teaser. It could
have been a lot of teaser spots last night for
green Bay. Right now, nothing unless it goes to one
and a half.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Chargers Raiders. Chargers finally going to win, but survive to
do so. They're five point favorites at home in the
totals four to eight and a half.
Speaker 13 (28:58):
Boy, are the Raiders this bad? Like I like? I
five and a half sounds like a lot of points
for the Raiders, you know, But then guys, think about
that first week that they seventeen sixteen over Denver. I
just don't know if they're that bad. Yes, they had
a bad week again last week. But listen, you can't
go by the Las Vegas home crowd. There was sixty
(29:20):
five seventy terrible Powells screaming Yellen in the stadium Pittsburgh fans.
Vegas tried to come back to the end coaching era.
As we all know, I am just one of those
guys that can't do anything right with these Chargers. If anything,
I definitely leaned towards the Las Vegas with the points there. Okay,
(29:44):
I know I do.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Give me, give me, give me two more that you like,
so I know where to lead.
Speaker 13 (29:48):
You sure, sure, sure, I actually like you know. I
don't like teasing the road teams, but I do like
Kansas City over the Jets this week. Teasing down from
nine you want to go you want to go under.
So you want to go under? You want to go
to two and a half minus two and a half
With Kansas City and the other leg of that teaser
(30:11):
where will probably be Tennessee at home. Whenever there's a
low total, boy, if there's a spot to tease through
key numbers, that's usually money. So here you have a
total of forty one in Cincinnati, Tennessee. I like to
go through the key numbers of the three and the seven.
Take Tennessee plus eight and a half day Kansas City
minus two and a half. It looks a lot easier
(30:32):
than it is. That's why you pay a tax. You
pay a penalty on Instead of paying eleven to ten,
you're going to pay thirteen to ten or they're fourteen
to ten, depending on how big of a teaser you take.
I also look to Monday night football, ugly games, Seattle
on the Giants. I kind of like Seattle on the spot.
Seattle a lot better than the Giants, trust me, and
(30:55):
this game to be under a field goal shocks me.
So I like Seattle, even though they are on the
road in New York, which doesn't seem to mean much
as we know the first week Dallas beating them forty
to nothing in New York. There's a there's a couple
of bets I do like for this weekend awesome stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Crack love having you on. Obviously love the Sunday show
as well. Bill Krackenberger Professional Sports Better. Along with Jef
Schwartz Brian No they co host Fox Sports Traders count
Down to Kickoff present the by bet MGM. Every Sunday morning.
Tune in this Sunday at ten am Eastern. They'll take
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Speaker 3 (31:31):
Crack, thanks so much, thanks to take care. Let's get
to our pick of the day.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Okay, sir, the bet is to you in Maybe it's
time for the pick of the day.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I actually got to pick on tonight's game. You know
there's a big NFL, big college football game tonight where
you have Utah State take it on Oregon State.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Organ State.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
It's a four point favorite. Organ State hasn't got what
they want out of dj Angalele and Utah. We still
still don't know if cam Rising is gonna play. I
like Utah in this spot. There are four points. Dog
on the road in corvallis their defense, their line play.
You know they won the Pac twelve last year. They
got great culture. I like Utah. I think we're given
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Oregon State the excuse that they played on the road
last week.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
I just don't think they're as good as the Utes.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
I think the Utes are, it's they're on a crash
course to take on USC again the Pack telve championship game.
I got USC and I'll take I mean, ask you.
I get Utah and I'll take the four points. All right,
that's it for the end of Bonus Podcast. Thanks so
much for listening. I'm Doug Gottlieb.
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