June 19, 2024 • 30 mins
Doug riffs on the Monty Williams firing in Detroit. Doug reacts Colin Cowherd's take on Caitlin Clark. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying. Plus, Gilbert Arenas makes today's version of "Because We Can".
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, this is the Doug gottli Show. Here's in
the bonus with Doug gottlie.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
What I'm Doug Gottlieb Show. In the bonus around Box
Sports Radio, the iHeartRadio app. Welcome in. So the news
of the day. It was kind of interesting, right because
I started today with just thinking, you know, you wake
up in the morning. The way it works when you
do national sports radio is you have to wake up
(00:32):
with kind of something on your mind and hopefully it
aligns with the topic of the day. And I was
thinking to myself as itself, I was thinking to myself, man,
what is what could be a topic? Where we have
no more NBA Finals, there's no real other gigantic stories.
Then bam, Monty Williams is fired. And the only thing
(00:55):
surprising about Monty Williams being fired is these sixty five
million dollars that they have to pay him. And here's
what's really really interesting is, let me just make sure you
get this right. So I actually think this is kind
(01:15):
of the perfect storm. I've told you guys for a long, long,
long long time that in coaching, in coaching, what has
a tendency to happen is just like in business, you
hire people that you know. In basketball, we talk about
basketball families. Football, it's the same. You hire people you know,
(01:37):
people that you can trust. The number one thing you
need when you're hiring a staff is people that you
can trust. The number one thing is somebody that I
can trust, that I can go to war with. Because
(01:57):
the actual sports coach element of it. While there's some
people that are very very good, I'm not trying to
diminish the intelligence level of people, but a lot of
it is just relating to each other, relating to other
coaches and oh yeah, by the way, getting along and
pulling in the same direction. And for that you need trust.
(02:18):
You do so when Trajan Langdon was hired as the
new president of the Detroit Pistons, you know, in my mind,
I thought, well, man, this is MONI Williams safe because
the Pistons have had a disastrous year under him. I
mean just awful, and there's relative disconnect, there's guys he
(02:41):
won't play, and there was a real, real, just bad
culture frankly within within the Pistons. Now you can sit
here and go, hey, the Pistons have been bad for
five years and just an awful five years. So whomever
it was the head coach, but there has to be
some sort of progress that can be seen, and there's
(03:02):
none that anyone can identify. None, zero, zip Zil's, nada, nada.
So when I when I look at it, it actually
kind of makes sense. You have a new president, he
wants to bring in his own coach. You have a
disastrous season, and though you don't want to blame Moni Williams,
remember Moni who Moni is a great human being, you know,
(03:27):
and the tragedy with his wife losing her life, it
strikes you, and he's had some other tragedies in his life.
You're just sitting there going like, man, what a terrific
human being. But in terms of the basketball relationship piece,
it's not the same. You know, he couldn't get along
with DeAndre Ayton. And look, some of that is DeAndre Ayton,
(03:50):
where Deandreton was in his life and how DeAndre Aiden
carried himself, but some of it is also how Manny
Williams handled it. That's part of the job. But I
I think the best part about it is that here
is a really well liked, well respected black head coach
and it wasn't working. A new president comes in and
(04:12):
fires him. And what it tells you is it is
not about race. It's not you know, because you have
people saying, well, Darvin Ham, Darvin Ham's a bad coach.
Lebron James didn't want to play for him anymore. He
didn't respect his basketball acumen. He was just a play
hard guy. And Darvin Ham was late to his own meetings.
(04:34):
And he was late to his own meetings. And there
will always be people that will sprinkle in the you know,
Rob Bolink's white and Darvin Ham's flack. So this tells
you all you need to know about what most all
of these coaching changes are. People want to bring in
their own people. Presidents and gms want to hire their
(04:56):
own head coach. And when head coaches aren't working and
aren't able to change the culture, there's no salary gap.
You just buy your way out of it. You got
a billionaire owner. Sixty five million is a lot of
money to meet you and just about everybody on earth,
but not to whoever owns an NBA sports franchise when
it's not working. Would I have made the change, No,
(05:18):
of course not. But I also don't have a billion dollars.
I just don't, and I'm sure when Trajan Leydenen took
the job, he asked ownership. Can I decide who I
want to be the head coach? Or do I have
to will do I get autonomy with who's coaching the team?
(05:40):
You don't take that job. And unless the answer is yes,
and I guess today we found out the answer is yes.
So money can be Sports are weird. You know. I
just actually had a meeting with my coaching staff about
our basketball team here at Green Bay, and it's fascinating.
There are some guys who, pre dating their time here,
(06:02):
haven't been the strongest of students. But anyone who's been
around sports knows there are guys that are basketball geniuses
that just don't like school, aren't good at school. The
same thing can be true with coaching. There are coaches
that are fantastic men, good human beings, full hearted men,
but you know what, they just don't work with certain
players or certain teams, and maybe they're not nearly as
(06:24):
good a guy when it comes down to how they
handle different people in different situations in coaching. And MANI
gets a ton of credit, rightfully so, for the turnaround
of the Phoenix Suns, but the Sons have achieved a
lot since he was gone as well as when he
was there, And that's the reality to it. The other
(06:50):
part to what I thought we would talk about today is,
you know, we're in a real weird place in the
NFL where the last couple of years, you know, last
or the last couple of summers, it's been about Aaron Rodgers,
and the previous summer it was about Russell Wilson. We
also we had last summer, we had Lamar Jackson. I
don't think we have that going on this summer because
(07:12):
all of those guys are taken care of, and we're
seeing teams get ahead of it with most contracts. I
guess Tua is the one guy that will wait on.
But if I'm the Dolphins, don't you keep waiting on Tua?
You know, everybody else that matters outside of Dak. Prescott
is under contract in Dak. Feels like he's not going
to sign an extension and they're gonna let him play
(07:33):
throughout the last year of his deal. But I was
thinking to myself, what is the story of this year's
offseason in the NFL. Last year was also the running
backs complaining In this year, none of them are getting paid.
Maybe that's what it is. Thankfully, the Pistons fired Monty Williams.
Not thankfully because he's a good guy as a human being,
but thankfully they did, which makes us not talk about
(07:54):
some contract negotiation that's ultimately going to get settled because
everybody resigns in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Be sure to catch live of the Doug Gottlieb Show
weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports
Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Let's get to what the Fox says.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
And now i'd say this is.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Colin Calvert talking about Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
If you want to see the Caitlin Clark effect here,
it is bad team, small market and they are worth
more the Indiana Fever than the Los Angeles Sparks, the Dallas, Atlanta,
Washington teams, and almost equal to a team in Chicago.
But the WNBA since its inception in nineteen ninety six,
(08:39):
I think ninety seven was the first year they played,
they've lost big money every year. Caitland Clark, to some degree,
is saving the WNBA. She may not be good enough
to be on the Olympic team, but she is easily
the greatest player without even playing half a season. She
is the greatest player for business in the history of
(09:03):
the league. And it's not close. So right now, the
Indian Fever's worth ninety million and they've been around for years.
These will triple, These will triple within twenty four months.
It's amazing what a star can do. Caitlin Clark is
easily the greatest player in that league's history in terms
of business.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, I'm not going with the triple. And I also
don't know if I go with the evaluations. I mean,
the reality is, like, you know, those those teams are
those things are hard to sell. They are really really
hard to sell, really really hard to sell. So I
don't know if I if I buy that. The other
(09:46):
part too, it is it has their revenue. It doesn't
have their expenses with it.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
You know that.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
You know, if their expenses out out been the revenue,
then you have yourself a problem. I just yeah, I
don't I don't know if I see that one. I
don't know if I see that one at all. Yeah,
I mean, like, look, the general premise, though, is right,
is that she is either changing or saving the WNBA,
(10:13):
maybe to the level where Colin believes she can triple
the value of the Indiana fever because like, again, what
happens after when we get out of the Olympics, we
get out of the Olympics for creeping closer to football.
We haven't seen her, heard from her in a month.
What happens there? Like right now, it's on the back
of college basketball season in the same area of the country.
(10:35):
That thing all worked out and it's perfect, it's beautiful.
But what happens once we creep, you know, to the
end of July and people have kind of emotionally and
mentally moved on. That's a big question, I said, a real,
real question, especially when we haven't seen or heard from her.
Here's Jonas Knox and Leavar Arrington talking to their reaction
to the recent league from the Jets. Hassan Reddick lied
(10:58):
about his reasoning for missing a recent mini camp.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Who's side would give that side of the story to
Rich Samini to go public with this and be okay
to go public.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
With somebody from the front office of the New York
of course.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
And then it goes back to what Aaron Rodgers said
months ago. We've got to stop the leaks and all
the other crap that is coming out of our organization.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
Because it's a it's a culture. It's a culture one
hundred and it's the same story with them all the time. Like,
so Rogers is right, and you can argue that Rogers
is also part of the drama that is the New
York Jets, but this existed before him.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
These are all things that should be handled internally and quietly.
Even just the idea of saying, yeah, Aaron Rodgers isn't here.
It's unexcused, you know, but it's it's just the way
things are done in New York are so ass backwards,
and the way that it's done it, I mean, the
(12:01):
way they handle things with Zach Wilson, the way they
handle the business that takes place internally. This is just
the latest example of why you can see a team
I mean and again I lived it, Like you see
all this talent on one team and it's like, there's no
way that this team shouldn't be better than what it is,
(12:24):
and then you can't really put a finger on or
really think you can positively identify why the team underachieves
year in and year out. It's the culture, man.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yeah, I mean, I couldn't agree more with LaVar Arrington, Right,
these leaks, these stories probably happen elsewhere, but man, they
seem to always happen around the Jets. The Jets lead,
the lead the league in off season drama. No matter
who is on the Jets, go back and look at it,
and that that's part of why they've been so dysfunctional.
(12:58):
Here's Dan Patrick talk about Willie Mays.
Speaker 8 (13:01):
If he was going after a baseball, he was going
to get it. And there are a lot of guys
who individually are wonderful center fielders. Paul Blair comes to mind.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I mean Devon White.
Speaker 8 (13:12):
You know, there's probably ten to fifth, you know, Ken
Griffy Junior was a wonderful outfitter, Jim Edmunds wonderful.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
So Willy did that better than everybody else.
Speaker 8 (13:21):
But then he also stoleed over three hundred bases, hit
six hundred and sixty home runs. In a better ballpark,
a better hitting ballpark, he would have hit seven hundred
home runs easily two years for the military as well.
But that basket catch, that basket catch, Damn that basket catch.
Because we all tried to do it. It bounce off
your chest, off your hand, you get yelled at by
(13:44):
your coach, like, stop that you're not Willie Mays, like
I know, but we want to be. My father worked
at McGregor Sporting Goods and he brought home a glove
one day and it was the same model that Willy.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Mays had, and oh my god, I was in heaven.
Speaker 8 (14:03):
And I played shortstop, which the glove is way too
big to play shortstop. I mean, it was like a
fishing net. And I just remember, you know, guys would
come up and say, is that the one Willie Mays uses?
I go, yep, that's the one.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Yeah, no question, Willie Mays was was cool. That's that's
the part that's that's really that that's memorable. I mean
people men of that era. I mean, my dad used
to rave about Willie Mays, you know, and I don't know,
there's something inherently cool about it. I also think there's
something about baseball, right, I mean, the the over the
(14:42):
shoulder catch it's made in a park that is so gigantic.
I love that baseball there's no kind of standard like
basketball is ninety four by fifty right, So yeah, I
mean I don't think you you say this may sound
callous and talk about a little bit later on the pod.
You don't say like, oh, he's gone too soon. It's
(15:05):
not like some tragic tale. Ninety three years is a
life well lived. But what happens is when somebody historic,
a legend passes like it brings up all sorts of nostalgia.
Of course, it makes all of us feel older all
it makes many of us yearn for the days when
baseball was cool. And to me, it signifies a life
(15:26):
well lived. That's what the Fox Says say.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Let's find out who are what is annoying Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Jay Stu. What do you got, buddy it?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Doug, I think you've thrown out first pitch before right,
that's the at the Angels. Okay, so you know this
better than anybody, and you can probably speak to this.
What's the Maybe it was an advertisement. You only get
one chance at a first impression. Is that some kind
of ad or maybe that's a philosophical comment, But you
only get one chance at a first impression. So first
(16:19):
round draft pick JJ McCarthy is his skill set is
his arm. That's his arm. It got him drafted, makes
him a lot of money, and he could be a
franchise quarterback. The Twins invited him out to throw the
first pitch yesterday. I encourage anybody to go and watch
McCarthy's pitch since he's a pro. He's like, I'm going
(16:42):
to get up on the rubber. You know, I'm not
going to do this throw from the bottom of the
mounta thing. I'm going to get up on the rubber
and I'm going to make this pitch and the ball
goes sailing wide left. He could not get off the
mount fast enough. Like it was a very embarrassing thing,
and like it's so annoying that he didn't put more
(17:03):
work into that or didn't practice or something because he
can't do it again. That's his one and only time
in front of Minnesota fans to do that, and he
fucked up.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I mean, there's so many parts to it which are amazing,
but it is really annoying when now I've seen some
people throw from the rubber and I was told you
I wasn't allowed to throw from the rubber, and that
was really kind of troublesome to me because I had
practiced like getting up on a mound, and then all
of a sudden you're like, not on the mound. Or
the really hard one is when you're right in front
of the rubber and you're actually up on the mound,
(17:37):
so you're elevated, but there's nothing to push off. But
the biggest thing for me was that you know, I'm ana,
you know, like if I'm gonna throw, I'm gonna usually
have a mint, and they were like, no, don't bring
a mint. That looks cheesy. So didn't really get to
warm up because you know, in order to warm up
you have to be able to catch the ball when
it's thrown back to you. But it is super annoying
when you screw up that one chance.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
I mean, the one guy that never wanted anything to
do with rubber, it was Tyreek Hill. Now, like I said,
he mixes his his living with his arm, so it's
less forgivable. Like you see, like I don't know, I
think angel rees and a couple of teammates threw off
(18:22):
off the mound and you know they just kind of
throw like basketball players. Uh, you see a lot of
football players go out and you could tell they just
haven't thrown something their entire life like JJ McCarthy has.
It was just embarrassing. I'm not gonna let him up
on that. So I think Steve Levy is a friend
of yours. I've never heard one bad word said about
Steve Levy. But this isn't and this so this isn't
(18:45):
a Steve Levy thing. It's it's just one of those
things that he said. I don't think it almost sounds
like he.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Listen, listen, you don't have to apologize just because I'm
friends with somebody. They said something stupid or said something annoying.
It's fine to pointed out.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
But it's almost like he said it and then he
realized mid word that he said used the wrong wording
and he got right off of it. But this is
what he said as Willie Mays had passed again. Say, hey, kid,
is gone too soon.
Speaker 8 (19:14):
Willie May's has passed away tonight at the age of
ninety three.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, gone too soon at ninety three.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Yeah, it's Willie May has lived a long wife.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah, I mean nine years old. Like you hit the open.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
It was like, gone too sooner. It's like he kind
of caught himself there.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Well, it's good. It's one of those we all say it,
you know, I mean, you know, yeah, that's that's it
is annoying. You're right, it is annoying. Didn't you wasn't
an unner group text that you pointed out? Or maybe
was somebody who said to me yesterday, Oh, you know
what when I closed my house on Monday, I thought
of you because it was what day was it? June seventeenth?
(19:58):
Is it June seventeenth? A ready?
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Incredible?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
And immediately I thought of you. Honestly, you have become
the new Macarena, you know where once you get planted
in your head you can't get it out of your head.
Now it's uh.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Yeah, no, So somebody said that.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
To you, Yeah, somebody said. Somebody said, it's it's can
you believe it's June seventeenth already? And then it was
it was it was Brittany who works at the bank.
And Brittany is a sweetheart. She's like, I was like,
what what you know? You're signing your dating Oh you
have to date that, Like I'll date it for you, Like,
what is it seventeen? It's seventeenth? Is it the seventeenth already,
(20:35):
And then we go in and there's like a room
full of people and they're doing all the stuff and
what day is today? Is something? Is it the seventeenth already?
And it just becomes a think.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
It's like, uh, it's low hanging fruit for small talk.
I mean, it's just easy. It's easy to go to
with strangers. So I understand why it's used. We are
halfway through the year already. It is kind of nuts.
Speaker 9 (20:56):
I mean, if you think about it, how are we
already halfway done with twenty twenty four?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Did you just do what he has been critical of?
People are doing it?
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Listen.
Speaker 9 (21:04):
I'm I'm just stunned. I'm stunned. We're halfway through this year.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
It's incredible, so incredible.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Now William Mays dies and it's sad, and we talked
about it on the radio and stuff, and I.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Did were sad. I mean, like I'm not trying to
be a jerk, but again, ninety three years old, like
we're good.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Great point, but maybe maybe it's just it causes us
to pause and reflect on an amazing icon in sports. Now,
what it did for me was it triggered a movie
Pet Peeve. We all have our movie pet peeves, and
it's easy to have pet peeves with sports movies because
a lot of a lot of movies are made by
(21:44):
people that never did sports, so there's always there's always
a bone to pick. But the movie Major League is
one of my favorites. It's really one of the all
time comedies. And to set this scene up, I just
wanted to say that Wesley Snipes and maybe his best role,
shows up to the field unannounced and he pulls up.
(22:06):
I don't forget what the car was, but he pulls
up in the girls.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
He had like a Rolls Royce front and like a
V dub V deb bug back, wasn't it?
Speaker 4 (22:15):
And the GM and the manager and the coaches were
sitting there and this is what he said.
Speaker 9 (22:20):
Hey, hey played like Mays, run like Hayes.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
So so you know, he plays like he plays like
May's Willie May's and he runs like Hayes. Okay. So
then that sets up my favorite line of the movie,
which is manager Lou Brown, after seeing him in the
batting cage, well, you may run like May's, but you
hid like ship. I always love that line.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
But that's not my favorite line from Lou Brown.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Oh no, you like the tires, right.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I likes when when he's lou Brown is working at
a tire shop when he gets offered the job to
coach the Cleveland Indians, and he says, I don't know, Charlie,
I got a guy in the end the line about
some white walls I have to get back to yet, right,
that's amazing, that's amazing.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
He's a great character. He also tells the owner he's
too old to go diving into lockers and she could
just look at his penis for the rest of the scene. Now,
my pet peeve with this particular thing is that Willie
Hayes shows up and says, I play like May's on
a run like Hayes. And my whole thing this whole
time was like Willie Mays stole like four hundred bases
(23:39):
like he was and and he made the greatest catch
of all time because he was able to run like
thirty miles an hour to get the ball like. So
to play like Mason, then make an exception that you
run like Hayes. I always though it was was arrogant
and inaccurate, because Willie Mays did everything. So, if anything,
the death of Willie Mays made me think of my
(24:01):
my sports pet.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Pot wasn't it was who he was talking about.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Elvin Hayes. Yeah, who knows, Yeah, who knows who he's
referring to. But uh, you May. You may hit like
or you may run like May's, but you hit like ship. Yeah.
And what's great about is that Lou Brown actually kind
of points out like he didn't even get what the
original quote was, but he turned it into an amazing line.
So J J. McCarthy, you only get one chance at
(24:29):
the first time, Hayes, that's it. It was okay, but and uh,
the Major League, the ones grew up in the movie
Major League. And then Steve Levy saying, William has left
us too soon. Oh you know what, Iowa Sam's Iowa Sam.
(24:50):
He sent me one of his yesterday, laid out for us. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (24:57):
So, after Willie Mays passing, his godson, Barry Bonds put
out a statement and again I'm not I'm not criticizing
Barry Bonds even specifically. It's another one of those things
when people it's like when people say gone too soon.
Barry in his statement he said, I have no words
to describe the impact that Willie May's had on my life,
(25:20):
and then he goes on to use words to describe
the impact Willie May's had on his life. You do
have words. They're right in front of the statement you
just made. It's just one of those things that like
people people like want it because once upon a time
people used it. It sounded cool and unique, and maybe it
was used correctly. Nowadays, it's just one of those things
that people just sort of like. It's a trite saying
that people just kind of put in a statement because
(25:41):
it sounds cool, so so good.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
I like that one. It's all it's good. It also
was in the same line with uh, this person needs
no introduction, and that's always preceded by a long introduction
of accomplishments, a very long introduction.
Speaker 9 (25:55):
Or with all due respect, or I don't want to
offend anybody, and then you offend someone or disrespect them.
So it's just like it's it's filler language. It's filler.
It's a filler phrase. It annoys me, so which wins today?
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Oh God, these are really good ones. I'm gonna I'm
actually gonna give I with sam one.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Right.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I love that I have no words and then you
have words. I just I love that. Just you know,
point of corrections, Bullet Bob Hayes, who is an olympian
and a football player, so as fast an athletic as
Willie Mays Hayes is, Bullet Bob Hayes is it was
for old timers, was famous for being one of the
fastest humans on the face of the earth. And so
(26:36):
because of that, because if it's and I do you
know it is, we do always say we have to
have extra empathy for people who pass away at ninety three.
That would be my that would be like my runner up.
But I love the I have no words, then have
words following. Plus can't stand Barry Bonds at all. And
for that reason, Barry Bonds for not having words then
(26:56):
having words.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
You're why are we doing this?
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Because we can?
Speaker 4 (27:09):
All right, I'm going to give you guys some homework here.
First of all, Gilbert says something here that meets the segment.
But I want one or both of you to tell
me what the fuck he's talking about. This is Gilbert
Arenas talking about the WNBA, I think, and the real
message is this.
Speaker 10 (27:28):
You wanted eyes on you for people to see your skill.
Right when people was talking about you need to do
all these other things for people to see it. You
didn't want to do it right. Well, a group of
girls decided to right. And the girls the fans. The
age is from eight to nineteen. This is who's following.
(27:54):
So when you say all these new fans of the W,
I want to say, hold on, these are not new
fans to the W. These are these girls fans following them.
They're not new w NBA fans.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
They're old Kaitlin Clark fans.
Speaker 10 (28:12):
They're Angel Rees fans, They're Brick fans, they're Cardoza fans.
South Carolina had their own fucking fans.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
What is he talking about?
Speaker 9 (28:21):
Okay, I think I get it what he's saying. So
these there's all these people who are following the individual
successes of people like Kaitlin Clark and Angel Rees and
not even really paying attention to, like who are the
best teams in the WNBA. That's what I got from that.
And that's a lot like that's you see that a
lot now, especially younger generations, they're more fans of like
(28:42):
individual players, individual players in the NFL over the teams,
which I've never understood that.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
I've always been a team guy.
Speaker 9 (28:48):
You know, black and yellow, Iowha Eyes, Green Bay Packers,
whatever it may be. And there are a lot of
people that just root for individuals and they just want
to see individual success, which to me is kind of strange.
That's why I think he was gonna at.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
No, I.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Don't. I don't think that's I don't think that's what
he's getting at. I don't. I mean again, like we
are so massively overstating the following for anybody not named
Caitlin Clark, right, we just are literally are I mean yeah,
(29:25):
I mean for for five minutes. You know who Cardoza is,
the big lady from she was at South Carolina Brazilian, right,
just that South Carolina. But I mean, are you really
following her to watch her play on TV? Like you're
talking about a couple hundred people. There's no following for
these people. There are zero metrics that say there are
(29:46):
following for these people that are changing the dynamic. There's
every number, every stat will tell you it's about one person.
I mean, and if I'm lying, I'm dying. Like that's
just the reality of it. But anyway, the problem with
Gilbert is he says so much shit. He says everything
with such authority and then so much of it is
(30:06):
wrong that we just sit there and go like what
you know, But he's not the only one, but he
is the one in the segment. So for that reason
and why we can play for you because we can't.
All Right, that's it for In the bonus, check out
the radio show every day. If you download this, you're
gonna download obviously the radio show, but if you're not,
tell a friend, subscribe, download rate review. This is the
(30:29):
Doug Gottlip Show.
All right, this is the Doug gottli Show. Here's in
the bonus with Doug gottlie.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
What I'm Doug Gottlieb Show. In the bonus around Box
Sports Radio, the iHeartRadio app. Welcome in. So the news
of the day. It was kind of interesting, right because
I started today with just thinking, you know, you wake
up in the morning. The way it works when you
do national sports radio is you have to wake up
(00:32):
with kind of something on your mind and hopefully it
aligns with the topic of the day. And I was
thinking to myself as itself, I was thinking to myself, man,
what is what could be a topic? Where we have
no more NBA Finals, there's no real other gigantic stories.
Then bam, Monty Williams is fired. And the only thing
(00:55):
surprising about Monty Williams being fired is these sixty five
million dollars that they have to pay him. And here's
what's really really interesting is, let me just make sure you
get this right. So I actually think this is kind
(01:15):
of the perfect storm. I've told you guys for a long, long,
long long time that in coaching, in coaching, what has
a tendency to happen is just like in business, you
hire people that you know. In basketball, we talk about
basketball families. Football, it's the same. You hire people you know,
(01:37):
people that you can trust. The number one thing you
need when you're hiring a staff is people that you
can trust. The number one thing is somebody that I
can trust, that I can go to war with. Because
(01:57):
the actual sports coach element of it. While there's some
people that are very very good, I'm not trying to
diminish the intelligence level of people, but a lot of
it is just relating to each other, relating to other
coaches and oh yeah, by the way, getting along and
pulling in the same direction. And for that you need trust.
(02:18):
You do so when Trajan Langdon was hired as the
new president of the Detroit Pistons, you know, in my mind,
I thought, well, man, this is MONI Williams safe because
the Pistons have had a disastrous year under him. I
mean just awful, and there's relative disconnect, there's guys he
(02:41):
won't play, and there was a real, real, just bad
culture frankly within within the Pistons. Now you can sit
here and go, hey, the Pistons have been bad for
five years and just an awful five years. So whomever
it was the head coach, but there has to be
some sort of progress that can be seen, and there's
(03:02):
none that anyone can identify. None, zero, zip Zil's, nada, nada.
So when I when I look at it, it actually
kind of makes sense. You have a new president, he
wants to bring in his own coach. You have a
disastrous season, and though you don't want to blame Moni Williams,
remember Moni who Moni is a great human being, you know,
(03:27):
and the tragedy with his wife losing her life, it
strikes you, and he's had some other tragedies in his life.
You're just sitting there going like, man, what a terrific
human being. But in terms of the basketball relationship piece,
it's not the same. You know, he couldn't get along
with DeAndre Ayton. And look, some of that is DeAndre Ayton,
(03:50):
where Deandreton was in his life and how DeAndre Aiden
carried himself, but some of it is also how Manny
Williams handled it. That's part of the job. But I
I think the best part about it is that here
is a really well liked, well respected black head coach
and it wasn't working. A new president comes in and
(04:12):
fires him. And what it tells you is it is
not about race. It's not you know, because you have
people saying, well, Darvin Ham, Darvin Ham's a bad coach.
Lebron James didn't want to play for him anymore. He
didn't respect his basketball acumen. He was just a play
hard guy. And Darvin Ham was late to his own meetings.
(04:34):
And he was late to his own meetings. And there
will always be people that will sprinkle in the you know,
Rob Bolink's white and Darvin Ham's flack. So this tells
you all you need to know about what most all
of these coaching changes are. People want to bring in
their own people. Presidents and gms want to hire their
(04:56):
own head coach. And when head coaches aren't working and
aren't able to change the culture, there's no salary gap.
You just buy your way out of it. You got
a billionaire owner. Sixty five million is a lot of
money to meet you and just about everybody on earth,
but not to whoever owns an NBA sports franchise when
it's not working. Would I have made the change, No,
(05:18):
of course not. But I also don't have a billion dollars.
I just don't, and I'm sure when Trajan Leydenen took
the job, he asked ownership. Can I decide who I
want to be the head coach? Or do I have
to will do I get autonomy with who's coaching the team?
(05:40):
You don't take that job. And unless the answer is yes,
and I guess today we found out the answer is yes.
So money can be Sports are weird. You know. I
just actually had a meeting with my coaching staff about
our basketball team here at Green Bay, and it's fascinating.
There are some guys who, pre dating their time here,
(06:02):
haven't been the strongest of students. But anyone who's been
around sports knows there are guys that are basketball geniuses
that just don't like school, aren't good at school. The
same thing can be true with coaching. There are coaches
that are fantastic men, good human beings, full hearted men,
but you know what, they just don't work with certain
players or certain teams, and maybe they're not nearly as
(06:24):
good a guy when it comes down to how they
handle different people in different situations in coaching. And MANI
gets a ton of credit, rightfully so, for the turnaround
of the Phoenix Suns, but the Sons have achieved a
lot since he was gone as well as when he
was there, And that's the reality to it. The other
(06:50):
part to what I thought we would talk about today is,
you know, we're in a real weird place in the
NFL where the last couple of years, you know, last
or the last couple of summers, it's been about Aaron Rodgers,
and the previous summer it was about Russell Wilson. We
also we had last summer, we had Lamar Jackson. I
don't think we have that going on this summer because
(07:12):
all of those guys are taken care of, and we're
seeing teams get ahead of it with most contracts. I
guess Tua is the one guy that will wait on.
But if I'm the Dolphins, don't you keep waiting on Tua?
You know, everybody else that matters outside of Dak. Prescott
is under contract in Dak. Feels like he's not going
to sign an extension and they're gonna let him play
(07:33):
throughout the last year of his deal. But I was
thinking to myself, what is the story of this year's
offseason in the NFL. Last year was also the running
backs complaining In this year, none of them are getting paid.
Maybe that's what it is. Thankfully, the Pistons fired Monty Williams.
Not thankfully because he's a good guy as a human being,
but thankfully they did, which makes us not talk about
(07:54):
some contract negotiation that's ultimately going to get settled because
everybody resigns in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Be sure to catch live of the Doug Gottlieb Show
weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports
Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Let's get to what the Fox says.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
And now i'd say this is.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Colin Calvert talking about Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
If you want to see the Caitlin Clark effect here,
it is bad team, small market and they are worth
more the Indiana Fever than the Los Angeles Sparks, the Dallas, Atlanta,
Washington teams, and almost equal to a team in Chicago.
But the WNBA since its inception in nineteen ninety six,
(08:39):
I think ninety seven was the first year they played,
they've lost big money every year. Caitland Clark, to some degree,
is saving the WNBA. She may not be good enough
to be on the Olympic team, but she is easily
the greatest player without even playing half a season. She
is the greatest player for business in the history of
(09:03):
the league. And it's not close. So right now, the
Indian Fever's worth ninety million and they've been around for years.
These will triple, These will triple within twenty four months.
It's amazing what a star can do. Caitlin Clark is
easily the greatest player in that league's history in terms
of business.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, I'm not going with the triple. And I also
don't know if I go with the evaluations. I mean,
the reality is, like, you know, those those teams are
those things are hard to sell. They are really really
hard to sell, really really hard to sell. So I
don't know if I if I buy that. The other
(09:46):
part too, it is it has their revenue. It doesn't
have their expenses with it.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
You know that.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
You know, if their expenses out out been the revenue,
then you have yourself a problem. I just yeah, I
don't I don't know if I see that one. I
don't know if I see that one at all. Yeah,
I mean, like, look, the general premise, though, is right,
is that she is either changing or saving the WNBA,
(10:13):
maybe to the level where Colin believes she can triple
the value of the Indiana fever because like, again, what
happens after when we get out of the Olympics, we
get out of the Olympics for creeping closer to football.
We haven't seen her, heard from her in a month.
What happens there? Like right now, it's on the back
of college basketball season in the same area of the country.
(10:35):
That thing all worked out and it's perfect, it's beautiful.
But what happens once we creep, you know, to the
end of July and people have kind of emotionally and
mentally moved on. That's a big question, I said, a real,
real question, especially when we haven't seen or heard from her.
Here's Jonas Knox and Leavar Arrington talking to their reaction
to the recent league from the Jets. Hassan Reddick lied
(10:58):
about his reasoning for missing a recent mini camp.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Who's side would give that side of the story to
Rich Samini to go public with this and be okay
to go public.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
With somebody from the front office of the New York
of course.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
And then it goes back to what Aaron Rodgers said
months ago. We've got to stop the leaks and all
the other crap that is coming out of our organization.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
Because it's a it's a culture. It's a culture one
hundred and it's the same story with them all the time. Like,
so Rogers is right, and you can argue that Rogers
is also part of the drama that is the New
York Jets, but this existed before him.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
These are all things that should be handled internally and quietly.
Even just the idea of saying, yeah, Aaron Rodgers isn't here.
It's unexcused, you know, but it's it's just the way
things are done in New York are so ass backwards,
and the way that it's done it, I mean, the
(12:01):
way they handle things with Zach Wilson, the way they
handle the business that takes place internally. This is just
the latest example of why you can see a team
I mean and again I lived it, Like you see
all this talent on one team and it's like, there's no
way that this team shouldn't be better than what it is,
(12:24):
and then you can't really put a finger on or
really think you can positively identify why the team underachieves
year in and year out. It's the culture, man.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yeah, I mean, I couldn't agree more with LaVar Arrington, Right,
these leaks, these stories probably happen elsewhere, but man, they
seem to always happen around the Jets. The Jets lead,
the lead the league in off season drama. No matter
who is on the Jets, go back and look at it,
and that that's part of why they've been so dysfunctional.
(12:58):
Here's Dan Patrick talk about Willie Mays.
Speaker 8 (13:01):
If he was going after a baseball, he was going
to get it. And there are a lot of guys
who individually are wonderful center fielders. Paul Blair comes to mind.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I mean Devon White.
Speaker 8 (13:12):
You know, there's probably ten to fifth, you know, Ken
Griffy Junior was a wonderful outfitter, Jim Edmunds wonderful.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
So Willy did that better than everybody else.
Speaker 8 (13:21):
But then he also stoleed over three hundred bases, hit
six hundred and sixty home runs. In a better ballpark,
a better hitting ballpark, he would have hit seven hundred
home runs easily two years for the military as well.
But that basket catch, that basket catch, Damn that basket catch.
Because we all tried to do it. It bounce off
your chest, off your hand, you get yelled at by
(13:44):
your coach, like, stop that you're not Willie Mays, like
I know, but we want to be. My father worked
at McGregor Sporting Goods and he brought home a glove
one day and it was the same model that Willy.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Mays had, and oh my god, I was in heaven.
Speaker 8 (14:03):
And I played shortstop, which the glove is way too
big to play shortstop. I mean, it was like a
fishing net. And I just remember, you know, guys would
come up and say, is that the one Willie Mays uses?
I go, yep, that's the one.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Yeah, no question, Willie Mays was was cool. That's that's
the part that's that's really that that's memorable. I mean
people men of that era. I mean, my dad used
to rave about Willie Mays, you know, and I don't know,
there's something inherently cool about it. I also think there's
something about baseball, right, I mean, the the over the
(14:42):
shoulder catch it's made in a park that is so gigantic.
I love that baseball there's no kind of standard like
basketball is ninety four by fifty right, So yeah, I
mean I don't think you you say this may sound
callous and talk about a little bit later on the pod.
You don't say like, oh, he's gone too soon. It's
(15:05):
not like some tragic tale. Ninety three years is a
life well lived. But what happens is when somebody historic,
a legend passes like it brings up all sorts of nostalgia.
Of course, it makes all of us feel older all
it makes many of us yearn for the days when
baseball was cool. And to me, it signifies a life
(15:26):
well lived. That's what the Fox Says say.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Let's find out who are what is annoying Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Jay Stu. What do you got, buddy it?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Doug, I think you've thrown out first pitch before right,
that's the at the Angels. Okay, so you know this
better than anybody, and you can probably speak to this.
What's the Maybe it was an advertisement. You only get
one chance at a first impression. Is that some kind
of ad or maybe that's a philosophical comment, But you
only get one chance at a first impression. So first
(16:19):
round draft pick JJ McCarthy is his skill set is
his arm. That's his arm. It got him drafted, makes
him a lot of money, and he could be a
franchise quarterback. The Twins invited him out to throw the
first pitch yesterday. I encourage anybody to go and watch
McCarthy's pitch since he's a pro. He's like, I'm going
(16:42):
to get up on the rubber. You know, I'm not
going to do this throw from the bottom of the
mounta thing. I'm going to get up on the rubber
and I'm going to make this pitch and the ball
goes sailing wide left. He could not get off the
mount fast enough. Like it was a very embarrassing thing,
and like it's so annoying that he didn't put more
(17:03):
work into that or didn't practice or something because he
can't do it again. That's his one and only time
in front of Minnesota fans to do that, and he
fucked up.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I mean, there's so many parts to it which are amazing,
but it is really annoying when now I've seen some
people throw from the rubber and I was told you
I wasn't allowed to throw from the rubber, and that
was really kind of troublesome to me because I had
practiced like getting up on a mound, and then all
of a sudden you're like, not on the mound. Or
the really hard one is when you're right in front
of the rubber and you're actually up on the mound,
(17:37):
so you're elevated, but there's nothing to push off. But
the biggest thing for me was that you know, I'm ana,
you know, like if I'm gonna throw, I'm gonna usually
have a mint, and they were like, no, don't bring
a mint. That looks cheesy. So didn't really get to
warm up because you know, in order to warm up
you have to be able to catch the ball when
it's thrown back to you. But it is super annoying
when you screw up that one chance.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
I mean, the one guy that never wanted anything to
do with rubber, it was Tyreek Hill. Now, like I said,
he mixes his his living with his arm, so it's
less forgivable. Like you see, like I don't know, I
think angel rees and a couple of teammates threw off
(18:22):
off the mound and you know they just kind of
throw like basketball players. Uh, you see a lot of
football players go out and you could tell they just
haven't thrown something their entire life like JJ McCarthy has.
It was just embarrassing. I'm not gonna let him up
on that. So I think Steve Levy is a friend
of yours. I've never heard one bad word said about
Steve Levy. But this isn't and this so this isn't
(18:45):
a Steve Levy thing. It's it's just one of those
things that he said. I don't think it almost sounds
like he.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Listen, listen, you don't have to apologize just because I'm
friends with somebody. They said something stupid or said something annoying.
It's fine to pointed out.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
But it's almost like he said it and then he
realized mid word that he said used the wrong wording
and he got right off of it. But this is
what he said as Willie Mays had passed again. Say, hey, kid,
is gone too soon.
Speaker 8 (19:14):
Willie May's has passed away tonight at the age of
ninety three.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, gone too soon at ninety three.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Yeah, it's Willie May has lived a long wife.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah, I mean nine years old. Like you hit the open.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
It was like, gone too sooner. It's like he kind
of caught himself there.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Well, it's good. It's one of those we all say it,
you know, I mean, you know, yeah, that's that's it
is annoying. You're right, it is annoying. Didn't you wasn't
an unner group text that you pointed out? Or maybe
was somebody who said to me yesterday, Oh, you know
what when I closed my house on Monday, I thought
of you because it was what day was it? June seventeenth?
(19:58):
Is it June seventeenth? A ready?
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Incredible?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
And immediately I thought of you. Honestly, you have become
the new Macarena, you know where once you get planted
in your head you can't get it out of your head.
Now it's uh.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Yeah, no, So somebody said that.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
To you, Yeah, somebody said. Somebody said, it's it's can
you believe it's June seventeenth already? And then it was
it was it was Brittany who works at the bank.
And Brittany is a sweetheart. She's like, I was like,
what what you know? You're signing your dating Oh you
have to date that, Like I'll date it for you, Like,
what is it seventeen? It's seventeenth? Is it the seventeenth already,
(20:35):
And then we go in and there's like a room
full of people and they're doing all the stuff and
what day is today? Is something? Is it the seventeenth already?
And it just becomes a think.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
It's like, uh, it's low hanging fruit for small talk.
I mean, it's just easy. It's easy to go to
with strangers. So I understand why it's used. We are
halfway through the year already. It is kind of nuts.
Speaker 9 (20:56):
I mean, if you think about it, how are we
already halfway done with twenty twenty four?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Did you just do what he has been critical of?
People are doing it?
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Listen.
Speaker 9 (21:04):
I'm I'm just stunned. I'm stunned. We're halfway through this year.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
It's incredible, so incredible.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Now William Mays dies and it's sad, and we talked
about it on the radio and stuff, and I.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Did were sad. I mean, like I'm not trying to
be a jerk, but again, ninety three years old, like
we're good.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Great point, but maybe maybe it's just it causes us
to pause and reflect on an amazing icon in sports. Now,
what it did for me was it triggered a movie
Pet Peeve. We all have our movie pet peeves, and
it's easy to have pet peeves with sports movies because
a lot of a lot of movies are made by
(21:44):
people that never did sports, so there's always there's always
a bone to pick. But the movie Major League is
one of my favorites. It's really one of the all
time comedies. And to set this scene up, I just
wanted to say that Wesley Snipes and maybe his best role,
shows up to the field unannounced and he pulls up.
(22:06):
I don't forget what the car was, but he pulls
up in the girls.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
He had like a Rolls Royce front and like a
V dub V deb bug back, wasn't it?
Speaker 4 (22:15):
And the GM and the manager and the coaches were
sitting there and this is what he said.
Speaker 9 (22:20):
Hey, hey played like Mays, run like Hayes.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
So so you know, he plays like he plays like
May's Willie May's and he runs like Hayes. Okay. So
then that sets up my favorite line of the movie,
which is manager Lou Brown, after seeing him in the
batting cage, well, you may run like May's, but you
hid like ship. I always love that line.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
But that's not my favorite line from Lou Brown.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Oh no, you like the tires, right.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I likes when when he's lou Brown is working at
a tire shop when he gets offered the job to
coach the Cleveland Indians, and he says, I don't know, Charlie,
I got a guy in the end the line about
some white walls I have to get back to yet, right,
that's amazing, that's amazing.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
He's a great character. He also tells the owner he's
too old to go diving into lockers and she could
just look at his penis for the rest of the scene. Now,
my pet peeve with this particular thing is that Willie
Hayes shows up and says, I play like May's on
a run like Hayes. And my whole thing this whole
time was like Willie Mays stole like four hundred bases
(23:39):
like he was and and he made the greatest catch
of all time because he was able to run like
thirty miles an hour to get the ball like. So
to play like Mason, then make an exception that you
run like Hayes. I always though it was was arrogant
and inaccurate, because Willie Mays did everything. So, if anything,
the death of Willie Mays made me think of my
(24:01):
my sports pet.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Pot wasn't it was who he was talking about.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Elvin Hayes. Yeah, who knows, Yeah, who knows who he's
referring to. But uh, you May. You may hit like
or you may run like May's, but you hit like ship. Yeah.
And what's great about is that Lou Brown actually kind
of points out like he didn't even get what the
original quote was, but he turned it into an amazing line.
So J J. McCarthy, you only get one chance at
(24:29):
the first time, Hayes, that's it. It was okay, but and uh,
the Major League, the ones grew up in the movie
Major League. And then Steve Levy saying, William has left
us too soon. Oh you know what, Iowa Sam's Iowa Sam.
(24:50):
He sent me one of his yesterday, laid out for us. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (24:57):
So, after Willie Mays passing, his godson, Barry Bonds put
out a statement and again I'm not I'm not criticizing
Barry Bonds even specifically. It's another one of those things
when people it's like when people say gone too soon.
Barry in his statement he said, I have no words
to describe the impact that Willie May's had on my life,
(25:20):
and then he goes on to use words to describe
the impact Willie May's had on his life. You do
have words. They're right in front of the statement you
just made. It's just one of those things that like
people people like want it because once upon a time
people used it. It sounded cool and unique, and maybe it
was used correctly. Nowadays, it's just one of those things
that people just sort of like. It's a trite saying
that people just kind of put in a statement because
(25:41):
it sounds cool, so so good.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
I like that one. It's all it's good. It also
was in the same line with uh, this person needs
no introduction, and that's always preceded by a long introduction
of accomplishments, a very long introduction.
Speaker 9 (25:55):
Or with all due respect, or I don't want to
offend anybody, and then you offend someone or disrespect them.
So it's just like it's it's filler language. It's filler.
It's a filler phrase. It annoys me, so which wins today?
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Oh God, these are really good ones. I'm gonna I'm
actually gonna give I with sam one.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Right.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I love that I have no words and then you
have words. I just I love that. Just you know,
point of corrections, Bullet Bob Hayes, who is an olympian
and a football player, so as fast an athletic as
Willie Mays Hayes is, Bullet Bob Hayes is it was
for old timers, was famous for being one of the
fastest humans on the face of the earth. And so
(26:36):
because of that, because if it's and I do you
know it is, we do always say we have to
have extra empathy for people who pass away at ninety three.
That would be my that would be like my runner up.
But I love the I have no words, then have
words following. Plus can't stand Barry Bonds at all. And
for that reason, Barry Bonds for not having words then
(26:56):
having words.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
You're why are we doing this?
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Because we can?
Speaker 4 (27:09):
All right, I'm going to give you guys some homework here.
First of all, Gilbert says something here that meets the segment.
But I want one or both of you to tell
me what the fuck he's talking about. This is Gilbert
Arenas talking about the WNBA, I think, and the real
message is this.
Speaker 10 (27:28):
You wanted eyes on you for people to see your skill.
Right when people was talking about you need to do
all these other things for people to see it. You
didn't want to do it right. Well, a group of
girls decided to right. And the girls the fans. The
age is from eight to nineteen. This is who's following.
(27:54):
So when you say all these new fans of the W,
I want to say, hold on, these are not new
fans to the W. These are these girls fans following them.
They're not new w NBA fans.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
They're old Kaitlin Clark fans.
Speaker 10 (28:12):
They're Angel Rees fans, They're Brick fans, they're Cardoza fans.
South Carolina had their own fucking fans.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
What is he talking about?
Speaker 9 (28:21):
Okay, I think I get it what he's saying. So
these there's all these people who are following the individual
successes of people like Kaitlin Clark and Angel Rees and
not even really paying attention to, like who are the
best teams in the WNBA. That's what I got from that.
And that's a lot like that's you see that a
lot now, especially younger generations, they're more fans of like
(28:42):
individual players, individual players in the NFL over the teams,
which I've never understood that.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
I've always been a team guy.
Speaker 9 (28:48):
You know, black and yellow, Iowha Eyes, Green Bay Packers,
whatever it may be. And there are a lot of
people that just root for individuals and they just want
to see individual success, which to me is kind of strange.
That's why I think he was gonna at.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
No, I.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Don't. I don't think that's I don't think that's what
he's getting at. I don't. I mean again, like we
are so massively overstating the following for anybody not named
Caitlin Clark, right, we just are literally are I mean yeah,
(29:25):
I mean for for five minutes. You know who Cardoza is,
the big lady from she was at South Carolina Brazilian, right,
just that South Carolina. But I mean, are you really
following her to watch her play on TV? Like you're
talking about a couple hundred people. There's no following for
these people. There are zero metrics that say there are
(29:46):
following for these people that are changing the dynamic. There's
every number, every stat will tell you it's about one person.
I mean, and if I'm lying, I'm dying. Like that's
just the reality of it. But anyway, the problem with
Gilbert is he says so much shit. He says everything
with such authority and then so much of it is
(30:06):
wrong that we just sit there and go like what
you know, But he's not the only one, but he
is the one in the segment. So for that reason
and why we can play for you because we can't.
All Right, that's it for In the bonus, check out
the radio show every day. If you download this, you're
gonna download obviously the radio show, but if you're not,
tell a friend, subscribe, download rate review. This is the
(30:29):
Doug Gottlip Show.
Host
Doug Gottlieb
Popular Podcasts
Monster: BTK
'Monster: BTK', the newest installment in the 'Monster' franchise, reveals the true story of the Wichita, Kansas serial killer who murdered at least 10 people between 1974 and 1991. Known by the moniker, BTK – Bind Torture Kill, his notoriety was bolstered by the taunting letters he sent to police, and the chilling phone calls he made to media outlets. BTK's identity was finally revealed in 2005 to the shock of his family, his community, and the world. He was the serial killer next door. From Tenderfoot TV & iHeartPodcasts, this is 'Monster: BTK'.
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations.