December 6, 2024 • 26 mins
Doug riffs about Lonzo Ball's admission about the Big Baller Brand shoes. Doug reacts to Brady Quinn's take about the college football playoff standings. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus, Jalen Brunson makes today's edition of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Heres in
the Bonus with Doug gottl.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. In the Bonus, iHeartRadio
on Fox Sports Radio. I like being right. I think
everybody likes being right, but I do. I like being right,
and I don't like being wrong. And I admit when
I'm wrong. Nick Wright won't admit when he's wrong. We'll
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talk about that a little bit later on in the podcast.
But there are two things that have happened this week
that have proved me to be right. One we'll get
to it, and I know that Jason wants me to
do a victory lap on Eric b Enemy being fired
as offensive coordinator for use la, I'm not doing a
(00:54):
victory lap. I know I was right about about why
he didn't get hasn't got an NFL head coaching job,
and no, racism is not the answer. The other one, though,
that's happened, which is super interesting, is Lonzo Ball said
this about wearing big brand baller shoes. Big Baller brand
shoes quote. I was an Adida's kid in high school,
so I was thinking of going that route. But when
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I was told but what was told to me. I
guess wasn't really what happened. I was told that nobody
want to partner with me. So my dad was like,
just rock the brand, and I was like, I those
they were like kickball shoes. Lonzo Ball said he wore
them just twice in the summer Yoh. When he was
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asked if the injury that has contributed to kind of
the downfall of his career was caused by the Big
Baller brand shoes quote, I think it's a possibility for sure,
to be honest with you, I wasn't really getting hurt
like that until I started wearing them. I've received a
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lot of criticism for things that I know to be true.
And I've been at this job for over twenty years,
and I have a lot of friends in the Lakers organization,
and they all told me that they didn't have medical proof,
but they knew that there wasn't any R and D
on those shoes, and there was widespread speculation, maybe to
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the point to where they were pretty much resigned to
the fact that he hurt himself because he was wearing
terrible sneakers and they hadn't gone through R and D
as much as you can think like, how much could
really go into The answer is a lot, a lot,
A lot, a lot lot. There's a lot to the
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dynamics of the cushioning and the sole and everything out
tread of the shoe. So I hate being wrong, but
I like being right. I have tweeted about that multiple
times over the past five or six years. Every time
it's been mixed with mixed with I'm a hater, I
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don't know what I'm talking about. They've never heard that,
and now it proves to be true. Your boys A
happy guy.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
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Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
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Speaker 2 (03:18):
App Let's get to what the Fox Says and now
every time Doug gottlib show in the Bonus Podcast and
play for you a portion of a previous show on
Fox Sports Radio Fox Sports One. This is Brady Quinn
talking about the college fall playoff standings.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I think these people who are part of the committee
have a really hard job.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
When it was four teams.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Someone was going to moan about, you know, not being
number four, and it was probably five and six. Someone
probably had a case. Then now it's twelve and it's
everyone supposed to be excited about it. Instead now we're
ticked off that, you know, hey, it's Miami who's sitting
in the twelve spot right now. But that means they're
basically not a part of it, mostly because a lot
of people out there have been trying to say this
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the entire season don't understand the format of the actual playoff.
So I don't have many gripes with the way the
rankings are. I have more questions like Miami can't possibly
move up. I just it feels like it's impossible unless
there's maybe a bunch of upsets or something. But even then,
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Ward Manual's talked about not dinging teams who lose in
the conference championship weekend.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Which is probably not the smartest.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Thing to say, because if you go back through the
history of the college football playoff, Grant and four teams,
they would talk about the fact that they're going to
every single week reevaluate these teams, and it almost seems
like they're allowing the story that's already been written on
most these teams to kind of dictate why they are
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where they are.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
So I look at a team at Miami, and I
say that stinks. Man.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, I look. My thing is, I continue to say,
I don't I don't get what the Big twelve champion
wouldn't be on the top four seed line if they
had to be a conference champion. And I think that
the flaw is in having SMU up there now even
if they beat Clemson, like they're not one of the four
best teams to the country. And again I continue to
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tell you the SEC is better than everybody else because
they got better players. Here's Ryan Lee fill in for
Dan Patrick. He had this personal story to share.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Tuesday was an anniversary of mine, ten years since I
walked out of a prison. Though okay, I talked to
Fritzy before the show, and I want to throw up
the when we get a chance at some point, I
want to throw up the first public words I had
about a year and two months after I had been
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out in twenty and sixteen, the Super Bowl in San Francisco,
Polly ran into me in a hotel on my way
to get a medical exam that the NFLPA was putting on,
and he just say, no pressure or anything, if you'd
like to come on talk about.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Life and I did.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
I talked to a lot of people and whether I
should do it or not, and I did, and I
walked on to set and I sat down, and me
and Dan just had a conversation, and it literally was
the catalyst to where I'm at now, publicly, broadcasting wise,
everything like that, because I was not interested in any
of that. I just I just wanted to disappear. I
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wanted to go work and be of service to others
and no one ever to see me again. I'm incredibly
honored and humbled that the great Dan Patrick trusts me.
I mean, come on, he trusts me in this is
his show. I mean, this is his legacy, this is
what he's done.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I can't imagine what that feeling must have been like
and what it has to be like for Ryan. Ryan's
not a perfect dude, obviously. I I vehemently disagree with
what he said about Kirk Kirk Street, but I also
understand there's a lot to unpack there. And you know,
there's a guy who has taken life's punches, and many
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of them are punching himself, but he continues to get
up and to that. This is a heck of an
anniversary ten years after you walked out. Now you're a
family man, Now you have a legit job, Now you're
part of the media, and now you're growing in life
as well as broadcasting. That's what the Fox says.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
What does the thought say.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Let's find out who what's annoying Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
And now it's your annoying, Doug.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
You touched on the radio show yesterday. But I wanted
to get a little bit deeper into this. So Nick
Wright at FS one, he went on Twitter yesterday and
I want to get this right. So let me read
exactly what he okay, and then I'm going to play
some sound for you. Nick Wright, of course opinionated a
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little left of center with some of his opinions to say,
the least.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Left of center.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
Left of center, Yeah, a little left of center. This
is exactly this is what he says on Twitter. The
worst people on the internet are singling out and attacking
Mina Chimes as the one person who was calling out
the league for be enemy not getting a head coach
job years ago, as if many of us weren't saying
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the same things. So here's my clip. I'm providing this clip,
and for what it's worth, I stand by all of
this to this day, and the only addition I would
make is the one white OC I listed who didn't
get an HC job, Brian Callahan, has since gotten a job.
Go ahead.
Speaker 7 (08:54):
I understand there are some people in the audience that
are far, far more bothered by accusations of race playing
a factor in things than they are by actual racism.
And that's pretty bothersome. But let me just give you
facts here. He can't get the job because Andy Reid,
and everybody knows Andy Reid calls the plays. Well, that
didn't hurt Matt Nagy, that didn't hurt Doug Peterson, that
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didn't hurt Andy's last offensive coordinator in Philly. So what
do coordinators offensive coordinators of Super Bowl teams do? Well,
the Chiefs have been a contender for five years, so
let's use that sample. Twenty eighteen Super Bowl Patriots rams. Well,
Zach Taylor went from that job to a head coaching job,
and Josh McDaniel now has a coaching job. What about
Kansas City, San Francisco, Well, that was Eric b Enemy
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and Mike McDaniel was the lead guy in San Francisco.
Now his head coaching job now to be fair Mike
McDaniel's by Rachel, but I'm not sure people knew that
until after he got the job, and he certainly I
don't think, dealt with the assumed. If we're being honest here,
a lot of the problem is a lot of the
white decision makers don't think the black guy interviewing with
the job is quite smart enough to get the job.
I don't know if Mike had to deal with that.
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Next Super bowls Can City Tampa. Neither of those guys
offensive coordinators have head coaching jobs. They are Eric Enemy
and Byron Left, which Eric just had to leave his job.
Byron just got fired from his The next one is
Cincinnati and the Rams. Now Callahan hasn't gotten a job yet,
but it looked like he was very close to this offseason.
Kevin O'Connell of course does have a job. And then
the Super Bowl again we have Eric Enemy and Shane
Stike and Eric Benemy now has had to leave to
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go get a chance, and Shane Stiken of course has
a job, and it's god dog embarrassing brow And the
very simple answer is a lot of even well intentioned
white people deep down somewhere, whether recognize or not don't
think the black guy's quite sharp enough.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
That's the hell he wants to die on. Huh.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
He's not changing a word, Doug.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
No, No, listen, I hope people understand. Okay, the reality
of our business is there are people that become very
popular in the offices of the networks and those place
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those people who are popular, while they don't necessarily hire
and fire people on their own, they become powerful and
they and they get their friends hired. Okay. So since
that original rant, if you go back and Twitter search, okay,
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I said it was embarrassing and it is still now.
It's literally the most uneducated take I've ever heard on
it because it's in his mind. Low HiT's so easy,
it's the most obvious. Okay, the Mike mcdalie didn't get
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a job, He's right, nobody knew. Nobody cares, Literally, no
one cares. Pick up the phone. Don't be an arrogant
douchebag who's on TV. Pick up the phone and call
any of the decision makers who didn't hire him. Call
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fucking Andy Reid. Stop sitting there going like, whoa Andy Reid?
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Whatever?
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Why don't you just calling you read ask Andy Reid
or ask anybody in the Kansaity Chiefs organization why he
wasn't the air apparent. I mean, think about it. What's
happened since he left and he went to Washington. They
brought back in. Matt Naggie was with him. Now, Matt
and Maggie has been elevated, and most people believe that
Matt Naggy is the air apparent to Andy Reid when
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Eric Biennemy was there. There's no reason they couldn't have
paid him. He didn't have a bad job. Like offensive
coordinators in the NFL makes several million dollars per year.
His contract was not renewed with the Kansaity Chiefs because
they don't think he's the next guy. And I know
what you're gonna bring up. You're gonna bring up the
fact that he was let go by UCLA when they
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had the one hundred and seventeenth ranked offense in college football. Right,
and oh yeah, by the way, the head coach is
a friend of mine and apparently a friend of Eric
Bannames as well. Hey, Deshaun Foster, Martin Jarmond is the
athletic director. What is the color of their skin, Jason.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Black?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, well, brown, whatever. Yes, those are two black men.
There's a two men of color who had the power
to keep him and decided to let him go. We're
making this out to be something that it's not, and
then we're dying on the hill. I'm not disputing the
fact that race has played a part historically in the
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quarterback position or historically in who's a head coach. But
if you ask every one of those decision makers, every
one of the owners, the reason that the NFL is
different than college football is in college football, yes, it's
about winning games, but it's also about recruiting, and it's
also about the boosters and they have to And yeah,
I have no doubt that on some level, racism does
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play a part in some of these hires and fires.
Just it's not necessarily good old boys, okay, But it
also can work the other way, where there's been plenty
of college football college basketball jobs where because they're forward
thinking athletic directors and presidents are like, look, we got
to hire somebody of color. We have to break the
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color barrier. Looks terrible in football. It's not about optics.
Nobody gives a shit about optics. They care about one
singular thing there's only one thing that gets you hired
and fired. You know what that is? You win football games.
That's all they care about. If you think for one
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second that any of these gms and any of the
presidents of organizations or any of the owners, Okay, I
go like, Yeah, this guy, Eric Banamy can help us
win games, but I'd rather hire Shane Steiken because he's white.
It's literally the dumbest fucking shit you've ever fucking heard.
And I'm so fucking dumb with it because here's the thing,
and what I respect about Nick is Nick will do
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the work from a statistical like he went and did
all that work and named all these different guys, and
he has an incredible memory, names, chapter and verse. You
know what he didn't do. He didn't pick up the
fucking phone and call anybody in the NFL, because if
he did, you know what they would tell you. They
would tell you this. This is what I have said.
And Jason, you've been around me long enough, and Dan
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Byer has been here, and I've been saying this whole
time that I talked to gms that he interviewed with, right,
and No, he didn't call plays. He didn't call plays
he didn't call plays until last year in Washington. By
the way, they had a near mutiny in Washington. They
hated him. Okay, the job of a head coach is
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to be a uniter. Get the offense, get the defense,
get everybody along. Everybody believed to be like Dan Campbell.
Dan Campbelton call plays, but Dan Campbell is beloved. He
has everybody their level rises up. He's a guys guy.
Eric the enemy is a guy who is a bit divisive.
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His guys like him, but plenty of guys don't. And
then you get to the other stuff which I have heard,
which is it's not that he doesn't call plays. We
don't know what he does, nor do we feel like
he has a point of focus or has he put
together a presentation that allows us to have a snapshot
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of what it will look like when he becomes our
head coach. So again, this is not one guy, and
the guy that I talked to the most. There's actually
three that I've spoken to. Hey, he's hired a black
head coach. He's like, I'm called a racist because I
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don't hire Eric Benemey. I hired a black coach. What
are you talking about? So the point is that some
guys are just not that good at the job. That's
really what it comes down to, really, really what it
comes down to. And to make it about like, well,
every every offensive coordinator of great, you did that research,
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that's awesome. That's the flaw in everything Nick does was
it's purely based upon what it says on a spreadsheet,
and life does not exist on a spreadsheet. Does it
help you tell a story if you don't know anything
about it? That's like what stats do? It helps You
don't have to watch a game. You just look at
the stats like, oh, okay, that's about what happened. But
the granular details matter. It has nothing to do with
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Eric Benemies. Eric Benemy can't be a college head coach
because of the shit that he was involved in when
he was at the University of Colorado. Remember when Colorado
hired Dion Sanders. When they hired Dion Sanders, Eric the
Enemy was a star at the University of Colorado, a
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superstar at the University of Colorado. He also had been
an assistant and there was all kinds of stuff happening
off the football field. He is unhirable at college. His
own alma mater cannot hire him, and by the way,
there was no outcry to hire him, despite the fact
that when that job came open and they hired Dion Sanders,
he was the offensive coordinator of the Kansas City Chiefs.
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They just won a Super Bowl. So Nick Wright dying
on this hill shows three things. Incredible arrogance. Incredible arrogance.
Nick doesn't portray arrogance with his takes. He is arrogant
because if you're not arrogant, you go, you know what,
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I might be wrong on this one, my bad, I
might be wrong on this one. The second thing shows
is that while he does all of the research based
upon the statistical data, he does not do the real research,
which is we are coaching is the people business. It's
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not the stats business. It's not the coordinator business. It's
the people business. Can you lead people? And the last
thing is that what is the very last possible explanation
is always his first explanation, and that is obtuse to
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the reality of professional sports. In pro sports, the only
thing that gets you hired and fired is winning. How
to do.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
Yeah, And just to button this up on that last point,
and the thing that kind of annoys me most about
this is is that, and we talked about this earlier
in the week. Remember we had that conversation about SEC
supporters seemingly are are never going to see an example
that gets them off of that, and anti trumpers will
never see an example that gets them off of that.
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You would think that Eric b Enemy's story over the
last three or four years would be a reason to
rethink or reimagine your take it. It's amazing to me
that you would so stubbornly stick to your guns after
an a blatant example like this. That's what annoys me.
(20:38):
So this is a little less heavy. You were introduced
as the head coach at Green Bay at Wisconsin green Bay,
so you've been through this. You could speak to this personally.
It bothers me. It's one of these things in sports
that annoys me when a new player or new coach
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goes to that introduction repress conference knowing that he's going
to put a jersey of the team on and he
doesn't wear a shirt that matches the colors of the team.
In fact, Blake Snell this week, I don't know if
you caught it. Blake Snell this week showed up in
like khakis and like a thick wool green sweater, green sweater.
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He's putting a white a classic white Dodgers jersey over
a green sweater. Doug, how annoying is that?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
It's pre annoying? I would say that I think is
Blake married, Like this is a big wife thing, Like
it's the Dodgers, the Dodgers blee blue. This is not
that hard, right, This is not that hard. So yeah,
(21:51):
that's pretty annoying, Doug.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
Christian McCaffrey went on Instagram basically apologizing, not really apologizing,
but just kind of explaining how it does a point
in the season has been for him. He writes, football
is the greatest game on the planet. To me, I
love that you could find out exactly who you are
without saying a word. It lifts you up and breaks
you down, and it can happen fast. It's humbling in
(22:13):
the best ways. You could do everything right and still fail.
That's life and that's football. This wasn't my year. And
sometimes when it rains at poors, you can feel sorry
for yourself and listen to the birds, or you could
hold the line. I'm grateful for the support and everyone
that's in my corner. Blah blah, blah. I think that's
a very heartfelt thing, and I feel for Christian McCaffrey.
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It's not his fault that he's injured. I will blame
the forty nine Ers for all this. It's been a
really disappointing season for Christian McCaffrey. It's also been a
very disappointing season for the forty nine Ers and by extension,
all those people that spent hundreds of dollars on their
fantasy leagues that took Christian McCaffrey first overall, and we're
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not fully informed of the depth of McCaffrey's injury. I
thought that was bullshit. The first week of the season,
when Shanahan literally like an hour before the game's like,
oh Christian McCaffrey is not going to play tonight, Oh
really okay, and then all of a sudden, Christian McCaffrey's
out for the next nine weeks. It was just to me,
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it was utter bullshit. I don't know if he got punished,
maybe they got fined, but I think this was a
disappointing season and an annoying season for McCaffrey for sure,
but for those fantasy owners that wasted their seasons and
their money on him taking.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Him first overall, first overall in the draft.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
That's annoying, incredibly annoying. Not the level of annoying as
Nick Raig, but it is. But you should have seen
it coming, right, And it's one of the things that
I would caution people about. There's been a new narrative.
We talked about this on the radio. There's been a
new narrative about Josh Jacobs. Raiders sure miss him. And
you know, you look at the you look at the Titans,
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and they missed, Like it's not about one year. It's
never been about one year. It's about three years. So
the argument, it's a it's a mistaken argument to make
running back steals about this year. It's about next year,
in the following year.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
Anything else, No, So yeah, Nick Wright, this Christian McCaffrey situation,
and then Blake Snell wears a green sweater to Dodger's introduction.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
That's annoying, but nothing tops Nick Right not admitting he
was wrong when everything and everyone has told him he
was wrong. And the most disarming thing you can ever
say was I was wrong, Nick Right.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Why are we doing this because we can?
Speaker 6 (24:50):
Hey, Doug Josh Hart is that his name. Josh Hart
and Jalen Bronson are teammates with the Knicks. Yep, I'm
gonna set this up because it's kind of hard to hear,
but it's funny. Josh Hart is chewing candy. It's between
gum and food. It's something like Skittles or Starburst, and
he's talking about the extra money that he's gonna make
(25:12):
from making it to the NBA Cup. And then you're
gonna hear Jalen Brunson scream something from the other side
of the walker room at.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Him, the list about this game. I get a new
I might get in new wash. You know, so I
got s?
Speaker 6 (25:29):
Are you scrapping for the money?
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Scrapping for the money?
Speaker 6 (25:33):
Yeah, yeah, So I don't really care about the young guy.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
I cared about me.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
You know what I M spend You're asshole.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
So funny. It's so funny. The fact that you know,
those guys are all teammates at Villanova and they can
bust each other's balls. It's amazing. Why do we play
it for you? Because we can. That's it for the
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All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Heres in
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. In the Bonus, iHeartRadio
on Fox Sports Radio. I like being right. I think
everybody likes being right, but I do. I like being right,
and I don't like being wrong. And I admit when
I'm wrong. Nick Wright won't admit when he's wrong. We'll
(00:34):
talk about that a little bit later on in the podcast.
But there are two things that have happened this week
that have proved me to be right. One we'll get
to it, and I know that Jason wants me to
do a victory lap on Eric b Enemy being fired
as offensive coordinator for use la, I'm not doing a
(00:54):
victory lap. I know I was right about about why
he didn't get hasn't got an NFL head coaching job,
and no, racism is not the answer. The other one, though,
that's happened, which is super interesting, is Lonzo Ball said
this about wearing big brand baller shoes. Big Baller brand
shoes quote. I was an Adida's kid in high school,
so I was thinking of going that route. But when
(01:16):
I was told but what was told to me. I
guess wasn't really what happened. I was told that nobody
want to partner with me. So my dad was like,
just rock the brand, and I was like, I those
they were like kickball shoes. Lonzo Ball said he wore
them just twice in the summer Yoh. When he was
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asked if the injury that has contributed to kind of
the downfall of his career was caused by the Big
Baller brand shoes quote, I think it's a possibility for sure,
to be honest with you, I wasn't really getting hurt
like that until I started wearing them. I've received a
(01:59):
lot of criticism for things that I know to be true.
And I've been at this job for over twenty years,
and I have a lot of friends in the Lakers organization,
and they all told me that they didn't have medical proof,
but they knew that there wasn't any R and D
on those shoes, and there was widespread speculation, maybe to
(02:22):
the point to where they were pretty much resigned to
the fact that he hurt himself because he was wearing
terrible sneakers and they hadn't gone through R and D
as much as you can think like, how much could
really go into The answer is a lot, a lot,
A lot, a lot lot. There's a lot to the
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dynamics of the cushioning and the sole and everything out
tread of the shoe. So I hate being wrong, but
I like being right. I have tweeted about that multiple
times over the past five or six years. Every time
it's been mixed with mixed with I'm a hater, I
(03:03):
don't know what I'm talking about. They've never heard that,
and now it proves to be true. Your boys A
happy guy.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
App Let's get to what the Fox Says and now
every time Doug gottlib show in the Bonus Podcast and
play for you a portion of a previous show on
Fox Sports Radio Fox Sports One. This is Brady Quinn
talking about the college fall playoff standings.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I think these people who are part of the committee
have a really hard job.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
When it was four teams.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Someone was going to moan about, you know, not being
number four, and it was probably five and six. Someone
probably had a case. Then now it's twelve and it's
everyone supposed to be excited about it. Instead now we're
ticked off that, you know, hey, it's Miami who's sitting
in the twelve spot right now. But that means they're
basically not a part of it, mostly because a lot
of people out there have been trying to say this
(04:02):
the entire season don't understand the format of the actual playoff.
So I don't have many gripes with the way the
rankings are. I have more questions like Miami can't possibly
move up. I just it feels like it's impossible unless
there's maybe a bunch of upsets or something. But even then,
(04:25):
Ward Manual's talked about not dinging teams who lose in
the conference championship weekend.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Which is probably not the smartest.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Thing to say, because if you go back through the
history of the college football playoff, Grant and four teams,
they would talk about the fact that they're going to
every single week reevaluate these teams, and it almost seems
like they're allowing the story that's already been written on
most these teams to kind of dictate why they are
(04:52):
where they are.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
So I look at a team at Miami, and I
say that stinks. Man.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, I look. My thing is, I continue to say,
I don't I don't get what the Big twelve champion
wouldn't be on the top four seed line if they
had to be a conference champion. And I think that
the flaw is in having SMU up there now even
if they beat Clemson, like they're not one of the four
best teams to the country. And again I continue to
(05:24):
tell you the SEC is better than everybody else because
they got better players. Here's Ryan Lee fill in for
Dan Patrick. He had this personal story to share.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Tuesday was an anniversary of mine, ten years since I
walked out of a prison. Though okay, I talked to
Fritzy before the show, and I want to throw up
the when we get a chance at some point, I
want to throw up the first public words I had
about a year and two months after I had been
(05:52):
out in twenty and sixteen, the Super Bowl in San Francisco,
Polly ran into me in a hotel on my way
to get a medical exam that the NFLPA was putting on,
and he just say, no pressure or anything, if you'd
like to come on talk about.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Life and I did.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
I talked to a lot of people and whether I
should do it or not, and I did, and I
walked on to set and I sat down, and me
and Dan just had a conversation, and it literally was
the catalyst to where I'm at now, publicly, broadcasting wise,
everything like that, because I was not interested in any
of that. I just I just wanted to disappear. I
(06:33):
wanted to go work and be of service to others
and no one ever to see me again. I'm incredibly
honored and humbled that the great Dan Patrick trusts me.
I mean, come on, he trusts me in this is
his show. I mean, this is his legacy, this is
what he's done.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I can't imagine what that feeling must have been like
and what it has to be like for Ryan. Ryan's
not a perfect dude, obviously. I I vehemently disagree with
what he said about Kirk Kirk Street, but I also
understand there's a lot to unpack there. And you know,
there's a guy who has taken life's punches, and many
(07:13):
of them are punching himself, but he continues to get
up and to that. This is a heck of an
anniversary ten years after you walked out. Now you're a
family man, Now you have a legit job, Now you're
part of the media, and now you're growing in life
as well as broadcasting. That's what the Fox says.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
What does the thought say.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Let's find out who what's annoying Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
And now it's your annoying, Doug.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
You touched on the radio show yesterday. But I wanted
to get a little bit deeper into this. So Nick
Wright at FS one, he went on Twitter yesterday and
I want to get this right. So let me read
exactly what he okay, and then I'm going to play
some sound for you. Nick Wright, of course opinionated a
(08:07):
little left of center with some of his opinions to say,
the least.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Left of center.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
Left of center, Yeah, a little left of center. This
is exactly this is what he says on Twitter. The
worst people on the internet are singling out and attacking
Mina Chimes as the one person who was calling out
the league for be enemy not getting a head coach
job years ago, as if many of us weren't saying
(08:34):
the same things. So here's my clip. I'm providing this clip,
and for what it's worth, I stand by all of
this to this day, and the only addition I would
make is the one white OC I listed who didn't
get an HC job, Brian Callahan, has since gotten a job.
Go ahead.
Speaker 7 (08:54):
I understand there are some people in the audience that
are far, far more bothered by accusations of race playing
a factor in things than they are by actual racism.
And that's pretty bothersome. But let me just give you
facts here. He can't get the job because Andy Reid,
and everybody knows Andy Reid calls the plays. Well, that
didn't hurt Matt Nagy, that didn't hurt Doug Peterson, that
(09:15):
didn't hurt Andy's last offensive coordinator in Philly. So what
do coordinators offensive coordinators of Super Bowl teams do? Well,
the Chiefs have been a contender for five years, so
let's use that sample. Twenty eighteen Super Bowl Patriots rams. Well,
Zach Taylor went from that job to a head coaching job,
and Josh McDaniel now has a coaching job. What about
Kansas City, San Francisco, Well, that was Eric b Enemy
(09:37):
and Mike McDaniel was the lead guy in San Francisco.
Now his head coaching job now to be fair Mike
McDaniel's by Rachel, but I'm not sure people knew that
until after he got the job, and he certainly I
don't think, dealt with the assumed. If we're being honest here,
a lot of the problem is a lot of the
white decision makers don't think the black guy interviewing with
the job is quite smart enough to get the job.
I don't know if Mike had to deal with that.
(09:58):
Next Super bowls Can City Tampa. Neither of those guys
offensive coordinators have head coaching jobs. They are Eric Enemy
and Byron Left, which Eric just had to leave his job.
Byron just got fired from his The next one is
Cincinnati and the Rams. Now Callahan hasn't gotten a job yet,
but it looked like he was very close to this offseason.
Kevin O'Connell of course does have a job. And then
the Super Bowl again we have Eric Enemy and Shane
Stike and Eric Benemy now has had to leave to
(10:19):
go get a chance, and Shane Stiken of course has
a job, and it's god dog embarrassing brow And the
very simple answer is a lot of even well intentioned
white people deep down somewhere, whether recognize or not don't
think the black guy's quite sharp enough.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
That's the hell he wants to die on. Huh.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
He's not changing a word, Doug.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
No, No, listen, I hope people understand. Okay, the reality
of our business is there are people that become very
popular in the offices of the networks and those place
(11:15):
those people who are popular, while they don't necessarily hire
and fire people on their own, they become powerful and
they and they get their friends hired. Okay. So since
that original rant, if you go back and Twitter search, okay,
(11:39):
I said it was embarrassing and it is still now.
It's literally the most uneducated take I've ever heard on
it because it's in his mind. Low HiT's so easy,
it's the most obvious. Okay, the Mike mcdalie didn't get
(12:01):
a job, He's right, nobody knew. Nobody cares, Literally, no
one cares. Pick up the phone. Don't be an arrogant
douchebag who's on TV. Pick up the phone and call
any of the decision makers who didn't hire him. Call
(12:21):
fucking Andy Reid. Stop sitting there going like, whoa Andy Reid?
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Whatever?
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Why don't you just calling you read ask Andy Reid
or ask anybody in the Kansaity Chiefs organization why he
wasn't the air apparent. I mean, think about it. What's
happened since he left and he went to Washington. They
brought back in. Matt Naggie was with him. Now, Matt
and Maggie has been elevated, and most people believe that
Matt Naggy is the air apparent to Andy Reid when
(12:47):
Eric Biennemy was there. There's no reason they couldn't have
paid him. He didn't have a bad job. Like offensive
coordinators in the NFL makes several million dollars per year.
His contract was not renewed with the Kansaity Chiefs because
they don't think he's the next guy. And I know
what you're gonna bring up. You're gonna bring up the
fact that he was let go by UCLA when they
(13:09):
had the one hundred and seventeenth ranked offense in college football. Right,
and oh yeah, by the way, the head coach is
a friend of mine and apparently a friend of Eric
Bannames as well. Hey, Deshaun Foster, Martin Jarmond is the
athletic director. What is the color of their skin, Jason.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Black?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, well, brown, whatever. Yes, those are two black men.
There's a two men of color who had the power
to keep him and decided to let him go. We're
making this out to be something that it's not, and
then we're dying on the hill. I'm not disputing the
fact that race has played a part historically in the
(13:54):
quarterback position or historically in who's a head coach. But
if you ask every one of those decision makers, every
one of the owners, the reason that the NFL is
different than college football is in college football, yes, it's
about winning games, but it's also about recruiting, and it's
also about the boosters and they have to And yeah,
I have no doubt that on some level, racism does
(14:16):
play a part in some of these hires and fires.
Just it's not necessarily good old boys, okay, But it
also can work the other way, where there's been plenty
of college football college basketball jobs where because they're forward
thinking athletic directors and presidents are like, look, we got
to hire somebody of color. We have to break the
(14:37):
color barrier. Looks terrible in football. It's not about optics.
Nobody gives a shit about optics. They care about one
singular thing there's only one thing that gets you hired
and fired. You know what that is? You win football games.
That's all they care about. If you think for one
(14:58):
second that any of these gms and any of the
presidents of organizations or any of the owners, Okay, I
go like, Yeah, this guy, Eric Banamy can help us
win games, but I'd rather hire Shane Steiken because he's white.
It's literally the dumbest fucking shit you've ever fucking heard.
And I'm so fucking dumb with it because here's the thing,
and what I respect about Nick is Nick will do
(15:20):
the work from a statistical like he went and did
all that work and named all these different guys, and
he has an incredible memory, names, chapter and verse. You
know what he didn't do. He didn't pick up the
fucking phone and call anybody in the NFL, because if
he did, you know what they would tell you. They
would tell you this. This is what I have said.
And Jason, you've been around me long enough, and Dan
(15:42):
Byer has been here, and I've been saying this whole
time that I talked to gms that he interviewed with, right,
and No, he didn't call plays. He didn't call plays
he didn't call plays until last year in Washington. By
the way, they had a near mutiny in Washington. They
hated him. Okay, the job of a head coach is
(16:03):
to be a uniter. Get the offense, get the defense,
get everybody along. Everybody believed to be like Dan Campbell.
Dan Campbelton call plays, but Dan Campbell is beloved. He
has everybody their level rises up. He's a guys guy.
Eric the enemy is a guy who is a bit divisive.
(16:26):
His guys like him, but plenty of guys don't. And
then you get to the other stuff which I have heard,
which is it's not that he doesn't call plays. We
don't know what he does, nor do we feel like
he has a point of focus or has he put
together a presentation that allows us to have a snapshot
(16:48):
of what it will look like when he becomes our
head coach. So again, this is not one guy, and
the guy that I talked to the most. There's actually
three that I've spoken to. Hey, he's hired a black
head coach. He's like, I'm called a racist because I
(17:10):
don't hire Eric Benemey. I hired a black coach. What
are you talking about? So the point is that some
guys are just not that good at the job. That's
really what it comes down to, really, really what it
comes down to. And to make it about like, well,
every every offensive coordinator of great, you did that research,
(17:31):
that's awesome. That's the flaw in everything Nick does was
it's purely based upon what it says on a spreadsheet,
and life does not exist on a spreadsheet. Does it
help you tell a story if you don't know anything
about it? That's like what stats do? It helps You
don't have to watch a game. You just look at
the stats like, oh, okay, that's about what happened. But
the granular details matter. It has nothing to do with
(17:53):
Eric Benemies. Eric Benemy can't be a college head coach
because of the shit that he was involved in when
he was at the University of Colorado. Remember when Colorado
hired Dion Sanders. When they hired Dion Sanders, Eric the
Enemy was a star at the University of Colorado, a
(18:14):
superstar at the University of Colorado. He also had been
an assistant and there was all kinds of stuff happening
off the football field. He is unhirable at college. His
own alma mater cannot hire him, and by the way,
there was no outcry to hire him, despite the fact
that when that job came open and they hired Dion Sanders,
he was the offensive coordinator of the Kansas City Chiefs.
(18:34):
They just won a Super Bowl. So Nick Wright dying
on this hill shows three things. Incredible arrogance. Incredible arrogance.
Nick doesn't portray arrogance with his takes. He is arrogant
because if you're not arrogant, you go, you know what,
(18:58):
I might be wrong on this one, my bad, I
might be wrong on this one. The second thing shows
is that while he does all of the research based
upon the statistical data, he does not do the real research,
which is we are coaching is the people business. It's
(19:19):
not the stats business. It's not the coordinator business. It's
the people business. Can you lead people? And the last
thing is that what is the very last possible explanation
is always his first explanation, and that is obtuse to
(19:40):
the reality of professional sports. In pro sports, the only
thing that gets you hired and fired is winning. How
to do.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
Yeah, And just to button this up on that last point,
and the thing that kind of annoys me most about
this is is that, and we talked about this earlier
in the week. Remember we had that conversation about SEC
supporters seemingly are are never going to see an example
that gets them off of that, and anti trumpers will
never see an example that gets them off of that.
(20:16):
You would think that Eric b Enemy's story over the
last three or four years would be a reason to
rethink or reimagine your take it. It's amazing to me
that you would so stubbornly stick to your guns after
an a blatant example like this. That's what annoys me.
(20:38):
So this is a little less heavy. You were introduced
as the head coach at Green Bay at Wisconsin green Bay,
so you've been through this. You could speak to this personally.
It bothers me. It's one of these things in sports
that annoys me when a new player or new coach
(20:58):
goes to that introduction repress conference knowing that he's going
to put a jersey of the team on and he
doesn't wear a shirt that matches the colors of the team.
In fact, Blake Snell this week, I don't know if
you caught it. Blake Snell this week showed up in
like khakis and like a thick wool green sweater, green sweater.
(21:21):
He's putting a white a classic white Dodgers jersey over
a green sweater. Doug, how annoying is that?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
It's pre annoying? I would say that I think is
Blake married, Like this is a big wife thing, Like
it's the Dodgers, the Dodgers blee blue. This is not
that hard, right, This is not that hard. So yeah,
(21:51):
that's pretty annoying, Doug.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
Christian McCaffrey went on Instagram basically apologizing, not really apologizing,
but just kind of explaining how it does a point
in the season has been for him. He writes, football
is the greatest game on the planet. To me, I
love that you could find out exactly who you are
without saying a word. It lifts you up and breaks
you down, and it can happen fast. It's humbling in
(22:13):
the best ways. You could do everything right and still fail.
That's life and that's football. This wasn't my year. And
sometimes when it rains at poors, you can feel sorry
for yourself and listen to the birds, or you could
hold the line. I'm grateful for the support and everyone
that's in my corner. Blah blah, blah. I think that's
a very heartfelt thing, and I feel for Christian McCaffrey.
(22:35):
It's not his fault that he's injured. I will blame
the forty nine Ers for all this. It's been a
really disappointing season for Christian McCaffrey. It's also been a
very disappointing season for the forty nine Ers and by extension,
all those people that spent hundreds of dollars on their
fantasy leagues that took Christian McCaffrey first overall, and we're
(22:55):
not fully informed of the depth of McCaffrey's injury. I
thought that was bullshit. The first week of the season,
when Shanahan literally like an hour before the game's like,
oh Christian McCaffrey is not going to play tonight, Oh
really okay, and then all of a sudden, Christian McCaffrey's
out for the next nine weeks. It was just to me,
(23:18):
it was utter bullshit. I don't know if he got punished,
maybe they got fined, but I think this was a
disappointing season and an annoying season for McCaffrey for sure,
but for those fantasy owners that wasted their seasons and
their money on him taking.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Him first overall, first overall in the draft.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
That's annoying, incredibly annoying. Not the level of annoying as
Nick Raig, but it is. But you should have seen
it coming, right, And it's one of the things that
I would caution people about. There's been a new narrative.
We talked about this on the radio. There's been a
new narrative about Josh Jacobs. Raiders sure miss him. And
you know, you look at the you look at the Titans,
(23:57):
and they missed, Like it's not about one year. It's
never been about one year. It's about three years. So
the argument, it's a it's a mistaken argument to make
running back steals about this year. It's about next year,
in the following year.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
Anything else, No, So yeah, Nick Wright, this Christian McCaffrey situation,
and then Blake Snell wears a green sweater to Dodger's introduction.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
That's annoying, but nothing tops Nick Right not admitting he
was wrong when everything and everyone has told him he
was wrong. And the most disarming thing you can ever
say was I was wrong, Nick Right.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Why are we doing this because we can?
Speaker 6 (24:50):
Hey, Doug Josh Hart is that his name. Josh Hart
and Jalen Bronson are teammates with the Knicks. Yep, I'm
gonna set this up because it's kind of hard to hear,
but it's funny. Josh Hart is chewing candy. It's between
gum and food. It's something like Skittles or Starburst, and
he's talking about the extra money that he's gonna make
(25:12):
from making it to the NBA Cup. And then you're
gonna hear Jalen Brunson scream something from the other side
of the walker room at.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Him, the list about this game. I get a new
I might get in new wash. You know, so I
got s?
Speaker 6 (25:29):
Are you scrapping for the money?
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Scrapping for the money?
Speaker 6 (25:33):
Yeah, yeah, So I don't really care about the young guy.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
I cared about me.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
You know what I M spend You're asshole.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
So funny. It's so funny. The fact that you know,
those guys are all teammates at Villanova and they can
bust each other's balls. It's amazing. Why do we play
it for you? Because we can. That's it for the
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