Kyrie Irving Is Growing Up & Andrew Whitworth

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night was a great night in basketball you had earlier.
You had Kyrie putting on a performance I think maybe
not for the ages, but one of the great performances
this season in the NBA. I said this about Richard
Sherman and his prime and I'm gonna say this about
Kyrie Irving. Lots of guys talk it, but not all
the guys walk it. Especially after they talk it. To

(01:07):
walk it like you talk it is some special special stuff. Kyrie,
of course called out his teammates and then after a
loss to Orlando and then had to backpedal some as
he felt like he aired dirty laundry. He he plays,
I don't know. Like that. That's about as good as
a point guard can play. He seemed to do it all.

(01:28):
I know James Harden's stats were better. I know Steph
Curry was more electric with all the threes that he
hit in the nightcap where the Warriors outlasted the New
Orleans Pelicans in their last game before they get Boogie Cousins.
Uh fully healthy and and back ready to go. But man,
I mean that was some special stuff from Kyrie Irving
twenty seven points and eighteen assists. Twenty seven points and

(01:53):
eighteen assists, wow, on nineteen shots. Did have seven turnovers.
But to call out teammates and to to basically say look,
I'm the leader, follow me, and then to play that
way in that big game, pretty special stuff. As the
Celtics end up winning one seventeen, one oh eight against

(02:14):
the team that they're likely going to see in the
playoffs and maybe in the Eastern Conference Finals. Here's Kyrie
after the game. I tell you one thing, and obviously
this is something that Um, it was a big deal
for me because I had to uh call Bron you
know and tell him, like, you know, I apologize for
being that young player that wanted to everything at his
you know, at his fingertips, and I wanted everything to

(02:36):
be at you know, my threshold. I wanted to be
the guy that led us to change. I wanted to
be the leader. I wanted to be all that. And
you know, the responsibility of being the best player in
the world and leading a team is something that's not
meant for many people. And Brown was one of those
guys that came to Cleveland and tried to really show
show us what it's like to win a championship and
it was hard for him and uh, sometimes getting the
most out of the group, it's not the easy, easiest

(02:59):
thing in the world. Fascinating stuff, right, Like I wanted
to be my team. You came in and took over
our team and you won, and I I kind of
resented it for you. Do you guys remember one of
the things that I shared with you before Christmas time,
and that um, I was I was on a plane.
This is a true story I shared it with If

(03:19):
you weren't listening, it's fine. Um. I shared it with
with everyone. Before Christmas, I flew on a red eye
to d C. And this is in late December. I
did Georgetown s m U s m U upset Georgetown
their own home floor. And I get out the plane.
It's five thirty in the morning at dullis Out Airport.

(03:39):
And of course you know Ramos knows this, but Buyer doesn't.
Any time you mentioned Dullas to any human being, any
male American over the age of thirty or thirty five,
they think an ex skywalk, They think die hard to
write Ramos, Ramos was sitting there going, yeah, an ex skywalk,
right it the plates can't land Doug go right. And meanwhile,

(04:04):
Dan Buyer, who doesn't like movies and doesn't have a
great he does no Caddy shack and he watched half
of pulp fiction. And when I just celebrated birthday, we're
nice to him yesterday, it can't be nice to him today. Um,
Buyers like I have no idea what you're talking about.
But that sounds lame. It's not lame. It's American history.
You need to know these things. Kidding a little bit anyway,
So I landed Dullas. I'm getting off a plane and

(04:27):
some guy goes, hey, man, you know, I know it's
really I don't want to stop you, but um, I
heard you on radio like three years ago say something
and I and I think it was more than three
years ago, say something that really resonated with me. And
he was like talking about a relationship he had in
college that had gone wrong and he broken up with

(04:49):
a girl and never really talked to her again, and
just out of the blue Facebook frienditor and just kind
of like apologize for being a jerk. And they're not
like best of friends, as they haven't record stile. They're
both married with kids and have grown on gone and
gone on to much better lives. And he's like, look,
I heard you say that about a relationship from your

(05:10):
past and about how much better you felt. And I
did it. That's what Kyrie Irvan went through. Like I've
done this. It's incredibly therapeutic to just admit what was
it in Billy Madison like you're right, I'm wrong, You're smart,
I'm stupid, you're handsome, I'm not so good looking? Right,

(05:34):
it takes a lot. There's the Shakes Shakespeare quote. Heavy
is the head that wears the Crown, and I think
that's what Kyrie is learning. Everybody wants to be a leader.
I talked to my son about this. I'm out of town.
I'm today. I'm broadcasting the Oregon State Arizona State game.
Fox Sports one. It's on. It's on late on the

(05:55):
East coast, ten on the East coast, seven on the
West coast. Really good game. And then in Saturday for
Compass Radio, I have Wisconsin's home game. As I think
they welcome in Michigan. I still gotta figure that out. Anyway,
The point is I'm gonna be gone Saturday. We have
a basketball game, and I said, hey, look, i'm gonna
have his buddy, Wyatt's Dad's gonna coach the team. He's

(06:18):
not really a basketball guy. So I want you to lead.
I want you to kind of be a player coach.
But that doesn't mean boss people around. That means you
have to lead by example. You fall down the ground,
you can't be crying. You gotta get up and play defense.
You miss a shot, you can't hang your head. You
gotta do all these little things that everyone else is
gonna look up to because they know you're the best player.

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And everyone says they want to do it, but then
when you actually have to do it, it ain't that
much fun. The rewards are great. You win the championship,
you get the glory, you're up there on the podium,
you're the guy that gets the MVP award. All that
is fun, But all the hard work and the ability
to lead and read people's emotions and sometimes think of
them up as opposed to you first, Like that's that's

(07:03):
a different thing, especially for men. Women naturally, a lot
of them naturally, whether it's motherly instinct or just the
women are smarter and that they have greater intuition and
um emotional intelligence. Women oftentimes put others ahead of self.
Guys were kind of we're kind of wired. We we

(07:24):
want to be alpha's and we we we try and
embody the Kobe spirit and the Mamba mentality and just
taking things over and coming in and letting our presence
be known, and you know, being on the treat of
mark your territory when sometimes you gotta put the feelings
of others ahead of self. And I thought that was
that's an incredible thing for Kyrie, who's had plenty of

(07:45):
missteps in the media and said some beyond foolish things.
The flat Earth thing, I don't think he meant a
literal flatter that that he thought the Earth was flat.
It was more the idea of just because everyone tells
you it's one thing doesn't mean you can't open your
mind up to the possibility of being something else. My
issue with it is science is not something really that

(08:07):
you want to challenge, because science has been challenged and
then proven to be a scientific fact, which is, you know,
some somewhere in the neighborhood of nineties seven per cent
of the time completely true, which scientifically is a fact.
But the point I actually understood it. But this is
incredible growth, incredible honesty. This is what we search for

(08:32):
when when we say we search for honesty from players
to the media, A lot of guys in my position,
twist that up. They think you have to be completely honest.
You can't. Coaches cannot be. They can't. Players cannot be.
They can't because you have to put the feelings of others.

(08:53):
You have to put the interest of a franchise ahead
of those of um, ahead of those of your own.
And so we we like to think of the idea of, hey,
if you don't like a guy say it in the media,
if you think you're gonna kick somebody's assay in the media,
if you don't like your coach, say in the media.
But there's realities to it. But this is something that

(09:19):
I look at Kyrie Irving and I think, well, here's
a guy who I've always thought was intelligent, but now
he's acting smart. Right now, he's acting like a smart person,
somebody who's learning from the mistakes of his past, somebod
who's growing and evolving and admitting mistakes and asking for help,

(09:39):
right because I think I think that the immature adult
or the kid thinks they can do it all on
their own and they don't need help, Whereas the mature
kid or becoming an adult is the guy who says,
I can't do it by myself and and I need
some help, I need some guidance. You know. This is

(10:02):
I was great ramos can I think it tests this.
All those kids aren't yet as old as I think
my my daughters are older. But as your kids get older,
like you just have honest discussions with them and go like, look,
you you can do it your own way. You can
learn these things and make mistakes, or you could actually
listen to your parents who have gone through the exact

(10:24):
same things. Now, some of it is how the parents
have to teach and mold their kids, Like you know
our parents that I didn't think mine at least we're
as good at the normal conversations about when you kissed
the girl, how you ask your girl out, you know,
relationships and schools like I don't remember my parents asking

(10:46):
me about my relationships and schools and who I got
along with and who was in the in crowd, who
was on the out and what about my friends? Drove
them crazy? But if you can have those conversations with
your kids and then share stories of your own child
wildhood to help them, and if they're willing to listen,
that shows your kids not and get lots of kids
are intelligent, but can they be can they be smart?

(11:07):
And a smart thing to do is to ask somebody
who's done what you are trying to do. Hey, you
got any advice for me? And by the way, when
we were together, I was kind of a jerk, so
I thought I felt like it was a breakthrough moment
or a breakthrough night for Kyrie Irving, not just in

(11:29):
what he said, but how he played, facilitating for teammates,
enjoying the success of others and learning and growing along
the way the next step, and maybe he's already accomplished.
This is admitting to his teammates like, hey, look, sometimes
old Kyrie comes out. Sometimes I'm a little bit selfish.
Sometimes I'm a little bit immature. But but if you

(11:51):
you stick with me, you let me lead you, we'll
all end up the better because of it. I thought
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so fired up to talk with Edward longtime NFL inside
er Falm on Twitter at Edward or r f A.
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He'll we cover the NFC Championship game Rams that Saints
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(14:02):
other teams in the National Football League. Um, and let
me let me kind of start a little bit with
that game Saints Rams Rams lost last time around, But
it does feel like the Rams think they figured some
stuff out at the end of the season during their
bye week. What do you think they figured out? Well,
I think the most remarkable thing, Doug, is that they

(14:25):
got back to being a physical, run first football team.
You know, everything in their passing game is really predicated around,
you know, the play action game. Jared Goffs not a
drop back passer. You want to make him a drop
back passer. Uh. You know, according to the defensive coordinators
that I've talked to, and obviously the first priority for
every defensive coach against the Rams is to make sure

(14:48):
you contain Todd Gurley as a rusher and a receiver. Well,
that's become a little bit more difficult now because of
the amazing productivity that the Rams have gotten out of
the free agent that they saw for the last two
games when they tried to rest Todd Gurley to get
him ready for January football. You know, C. J. Anderson
has been an unstoppable, physical forces at downhill, punishing runner

(15:10):
between the tackles. So he gives them a little bit
different to mention than they had the last time that
they were in New Orleans. And I know, even though
New Orleans won that game and they scored forty five points,
talking to people on the team after that game, they
felt there was a certain inevitability that they were going
to play the Rams again if they were going to
go to the Super Bowl. Uh. And there was also
a sense of dread that they would rather play somebody

(15:33):
else less formidable. But of course it's come down to
these two teams at the end of the season, and
my crazy or does it feel like and maybe the
Cowboys game I overvalue, but I watched the Saints down
the stretch, and I know they got home field advantage throughout.
I know they just beat the Eagles, and look if
they make that fifty two yard field goal, if they

(15:54):
get a closer to field goal and will Let's makes
that field goal. We're not talking about a drop ball.
But without overreacting to all Sean Jeffrey dropping a ball
he normally doesn't drop, or the Cowboys game, it doesn't
feel like they've been playing their best football. It almost
feels like there's somebody who peaked and has not kind
of figured out how to get it back, whereas the
Rams had peaked and uh and they hit all and

(16:17):
now they have figured out is that is that? Is
that fair? Unfair? Well, you know, I think it's interesting
and it's a good point that you make that. I
don't really think the Saints have been the same team
offensively since that loss that they had to the Cowboys,
where um, you know, they lost the game thirteen to
ten on the road. The Cowboys made a real point

(16:38):
of pressuring Drew Brees inside and being physical at the
line of scrimmage with the wide receivers and not allowing
them to get off the field. And ever since that game,
in which the Saints achieved historic lows in the Sean
Payton Drew Brees era, No, I think that that format
and that blueprint has sort of been cop beat And

(17:00):
if you look at what's happened uh Since Week thirteen
that game, the Saints of average nineteen points six points
per game, So I think you're right. It does make
them more vulnerable when their offense isn't scoring. You know,
thirtyts like was close to their average, And and Breeze
had seven games in which he threw three or more
touchdown passes before playing the Cowboys. He's had none since.

(17:23):
In fact, the only game in which he's only had
even two touchdown passes since the Dallas game was last
week against the Eagle, So I think your observation is
spot on. On the other hand, there is something to
this matchup, right. The way to beat a Wade Phillips
defense is um to attack their linebackers in the passing game,
especially with the running back, and no one does that
better than Todd Gurley, who does seem fresh and rested.

(17:44):
Is there something to this matchup though that should make
the Rams defense uneasy? Well, obviously they weren't able to
stop you know, Michael Thomas in the first game. He
had a franchise record two d eleven yards receiving. UH.
That led to the verbal jousting between Sean Uh, Sean Payton,
and Marcus Peters, the cornerback that they abused for most

(18:06):
of that game. He traveled with Peters or with Thomas
throughout that game. Uh. And afterwards, Sean Payton made the
point that Hey, that they wanted to travel him and
that was fine with us. In fact, we liked that matchup.
We like it quite a bit. I talked to Sean
Payton after a couple of days later, and he said,
you should see what Michael Thomas does to him in

(18:27):
this game. So obviously that's a matchup they'd like to
get again. The problem is, obviously they have a better
corner back now. I keep to leave is you know
back for the past four or five games, so he's
fortified the Rams defense. And I think if anybody travels
with Thomas in this game, it's likely to be him.
Uh and Kamara, I think is the next biggest matchup
that the Rams faces. How do they stop Alvin Kamara

(18:49):
as a receiver and runner out of the backfield? Um?
You also, Edward are joining us in the Doug Gottlieb show.
You Uh, you know you? I think you're at he
covered the Rams Cowboys game, correct, then you were there?
I believe, Um, what's your reaction to what Jerry Jones
had to say this week when he's like, look, I
think they graded out the coach is great out well,
and if I was to fire Jason Garrett, coup, you know,

(19:11):
he'd have five job offers. What's what's your reaction to
what Jerry had to say on Dallas Radio. While I
think there's some truth in what Jerry says about Jason
Garrett being valued by other franchise, especially in a year where, um,
there weren't a plethora of outstanding coaching candidates, to the
point that we've seen a lot of position coaches on

(19:31):
the offensive side of the ball get head coaching jobs
or or that soon to be announced, I guess, or
in the case of Cliff Kingsbury, you guy with no
NFL coaching experience getting a head coaching job. So yeah,
I think Jason Garrett would have been valued and probably
would have been hired by some other team. I'm not
sure the numbers five, um, But I think it's also
interesting that, you know, when he's engaged in the disagreement

(19:53):
with Jimmy Johnson over who's responsible for the Cowboys winning
back to back Super Bowls, Jerry's mindset is hey, anyone
a five which just could win with this team? And
then when he's talking about the value of a coach
who hasn't put two winning seasons together like Garrett, his
point of view is that he's too valuable to lose,
and the proof is that five other teams would try
to hire him. So it's an interesting philosophical change about

(20:14):
how Jerry sees the value of a coach. I do
think it's interesting to note that Garrett has not one
or not made the playoffs in consecutive seasons. And I
think if you're looking at it from the Cowboys point
of view, it's okay. The Rams and the Saints are
the final Sydney Championship games in which the top four
scoring teams made it for the first time in history,
and the Rams average thirty three points a game, the

(20:36):
Saints average thirty one and a half points a game,
and the Cowboys average ten points a game fewer than
those teams. How do they get their offense to that level?
And what's and what's the answer. They're gonna keep on
continuing on, right, That's that that's the plan. Well. I
think it's interesting that while Jerry has indicated he's he
wants to bring Jason Garrett back. He hasn't said anything

(20:58):
about extending his contract going into his last year in nineteen.
I think if you look back at it's interesting that
Garrett was in the exact same position Jerry chose not
to extend him but allowed him to return to the job,
and and he also did not extend um Dez Bryant
or DeMarco Murray. And at the end of the season

(21:19):
when they went twelve and four, won the division and
a playoff game, Jerry made it very clear that he
felt like that putting those people in that position UH
to where they had to prove their value in a
contract year brought out the best in them competitively. So
I could certainly see Jerry taking that same approach, and
I wouldn't rule out that they change offensive coordinators from

(21:40):
Scott Linahan at this point, given what Jerry has said.
Even though Jason Garrett said he didn't expect any major
UH staff changes, I know that the Cowboys in the
last forty eight hours reached out to another person who
got an offensive coordinator's job elsewhere in the league, but
too late the person had already taken another job. Edward
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A is his Twitter handle. He joins us in the
Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. Then the other side,
Old Faithful, the Patriots find a way to just completely
dismantle frankly dismembered the Chargers and they give the Chiefs rematch.
Only this one is on the home field of the Chiefs.
Andy Reid, of course, who has had plenty of success
but also plenty of failures in championship games back in

(22:26):
his NFC to Get days now has his best quarterback
talent wise he's ever had. You got young versus old,
You've got offense versus steadiness. There's a There's an interesting
dichotomy in this matchup, isn't there? Yeah, you mentioned that
the disparity at quarterback Tom Brady uh and Patrick Mahomes.
Mahomes is in his first postseason as a starter. In fact,

(22:47):
he's only uh young quarterback in this postseason to win
his his debut appearance in the playoffs last week. Everybody
else lost, um, but Brady is never lost in the playoffs.
Keenan oh against an opposing quarterback in his first postseason
as a starter, as is the case with Mahomes. And
I think the other interesting thing is Belichick's success uh

(23:11):
has not has not always been great against Andy Reid.
In fact, uh, you know there are he's coached three
two games for the Patriots, Belichick has only seven times
has his defense allowed more than forty points. Three of
those have come in recent seasons against Andy Reid. Um. Obviously,
they have to figure out a way to stop Tyreek
Hill in this game because uh, he's been a tremendous

(23:34):
resource for the Chiefs, had phenomenal games, seventy five yard
touchdown and in each of the last two games he's
played against him, uh. And I think the question is
to what extent is this the game where the Chiefs
really suffer the loss of Kareem Hunt, who has been
such a huge factor against the Patriots in the run game,
in in the passing game. You know, he scored four
touchdowns in two games and over four hundred yards uh

(23:57):
in two games. So that's that'll be a significant loss
for the chief trying to fill with Damian Williams. What's
the most surprising hiring you and talking talking to NFL people,
what's the most surprising hiring so far in the NFL.
I think, without a doubt Cliff Kingsbury, who who failed
as a as a college coach at Texas Tech and

(24:17):
was was fired there and didn't have success even though
he had Patrick Mahomes as his quarterback obviously coach Baker
Mayfield there as well. Uh. He did have good offensive teams.
They did produce points, but they did not win. So
for him without any real NFL history beyond being drafted
in the sixth round and and being a backup quarterback

(24:38):
briefly for Belichick and the Patriots, he has no real
NFL affiliation. Uh, and therefore was going to be you know,
challenging for for Steve time the GM to put together
a quality coaching staff for him. But just a just
a former player who failed in college as a major
college coach getting a head coaching opportunity with zero experience

(24:58):
in the league. Uh. What is the higher that most
people are not in their heads that they believe is
most likely to work. I think Bruce arians in Tampa
given you know his history with with quarterbacks from Ben
Roethlisberger to Peyton Manning to Andrew lock In now and
you know inheriting Jamis Winston a pivotal point in his
career and uh, you know, giving him the benefit of

(25:20):
the doubt. He's obviously had great success with Carson Palmer
late in his career in Arizona. So I think a
lot of people feel good about that, especially since Todd
Bowles is again his defensive coordinator. Uh, they coached those
Cardinals teams to the NFC Championship game not so many
years ago. I agree with you, I will I agree
with that that that that one all makes sense to me,

(25:40):
makes a ton of sense in what they're putting around
Jamis and Jamis's resemblance to Ben Roethlisberger on and off
the field early in Ben Roethlisberger's career. Gon me fascinating
to see and safe travels to Nola. I know you
will eat well, plus that a place would be allowed
and you'll be down the field. Can't wait to hear
the interviews you have. Thanks so much for joining us
on Fox Sport trade you, thanks for the talk to

(26:01):
you next week. All It's Edward or NFL Insider at
Edward r f A. Check out his doomsday podcast. Speaking
of doomsday, let's bring in the one only Dan Buyer,
All right, how was your birthday? I was good, It
was very good. Went out with the wife and father
in law, joined us for a nice meal last night,
and then, honest to god, got caught up in like

(26:22):
three hours of Deal or No Deal on CNBC. So
it was it was a good night. It was nice, enjoyable.
It was wet and rainy, but yeah, enjoyed it. Do
you like Deal or No Deal? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I
think it's a genius game. But but it was a
good birthday. We'll celebrate probably more this weekend, when you
know time allows for it. There's hoops today, Doug. Yes,

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Kyler Murray was little and he wasn't great, but he
also had a year or actually two years to sit behind,
sit behind Baker Mayfield. You red shirt one year and
then backed him up one year, and then started one
year and won the Highsman Trophy. He got a chance

(28:31):
to refine his game. Baker Mayfield was good, started as
a freshman, then got hurt, didn't get his job back,
came to Oklahoma, and he sat for a year before
taking over, and of course had an unbelievable career at OU.
But that year off really really helped him, really helped him,
um really helped him. But I so Jalen Hurts is

(28:57):
not gonna run have that benefit right He's gonna play
right away, and there's a lot of there's a lot
of learning, yes to do with the new offense, and boy,
that's a lot to try and fix what's wrong with
his throwing motion and his ability to read a defense.
This is one of those things that Lincoln Riley can
make Jalen Hurts into a Heisman Trophy thrower. Then Lincoln

(29:18):
Riley should just dropped the mike and go right to
the NFL to begin with. But but here's the part
that's being I don't know if misrepresented, but but so
Austin Kendall was the backup last year in Norman two
B a used quarterback. And when, of course Jalen Hurts
had his final three Maryland where his offensive coordina went,

(29:41):
Miami where his quarterbacks coach went, or Oklahoma, that clearly
reached out and said we need it. When he put
his name into the transfer portal, which we all expected,
and then those three came up as a finalist, Austin
Kendall probably looked around and was like, whoa wait a second.
I thought this was gonna be my job. Apparently it's not.
There were earning over me. That's what's it called. It's
called recruiting over you. So Austin Kendall put his name

(30:06):
in the hopper in the transfer portal. The transfer portal
is essentially college sports tender. It doesn't mean that you're
going to go on a date, but I need to
see if you're interested, and I'm available, I'm potentially on
the market. It's really hard to put your name in
the transfer portal and then go no, no, no, I'm

(30:28):
all in on staying. Although some of it does happen,
some of it is about fishing for compliments from your
current school. But Austin Kendall did, and people went crazy
yesterday because up until last night, Oklahoma had not cleared
him to play right away at West Virginia. West Virginia's

(30:50):
a Big twelve school. There's dnc ruld says, hey, look um,
if you graduate, you can transfer and play right away.
Kendall has graduated, he can transfer, you can play right away.
There is one kind of loophole in protection from the school.
And then and they can the Big twelve as a rule,
which you can block the ability to play right away

(31:13):
in the Big twelve in the same conference Vision one schools,
And all we're saying is there are nine others that
you can't transfer and play right away. And oh yeah,
by the way, it's very important if you want to
compare to Baker Mayfield one. Baker Mayfield sat for a
year too. Baker Mayfield came as they walk on. It's
different when you're on scholarship. Secondly, nobody actually says you
can't transfer. It's so you can switch schools. Is to

(31:36):
switch schools and play. Third, and this is really important.
We have no idea about the conversations that were had
between Lincoln Riley and Austin Kendall, because the likelihood it
is that Austin Kendall put his name into the transfer portal.

(31:57):
And there's one of two possible options here. Either he
put his name in and Lincoln Riley called him and says,
you wanna tell me about this, or you and I
believe this to be the case. Austin Kendall went to
them and said, hey, I'm gonna put my name in
the transfer portal. I know you're looking at quarterbacks. I
gotta look around as well. What whichever of the two happened.

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At some point there's a conversation steam head coach and
potential quarterback, and it probably went something like this, Hey man, listen,
we get it you want to play, but we're not
going to clear you to play in the Big twelve.
And I'm sure I'm guessing that Austin Kendall at that
point in time thought, Okay, that's fine. I don't need

(32:38):
to go to Big twelve school anyway. There's all these
other schools. There's always SEC schools that could use a quarterback.
There's packed twelves at schools that use the quarterback. There's
a CC schools that used the quarterback. He's from North Carolina.
And then West Virginia came in and had a new
coaching staff and said like, hey, dude, we we'd like
to have you, at which time his people linked it,
leaked it to the media, and Oklahoma was smart and

(33:00):
they said, I think, good, look, we'll clear you to
play wherever you want. We just got to make sure
we know we're getting a quarterback, because we don't. We're
not gonna be left with our pants down not get
Jalen Hurts and then let you go and transfer and
beat us at West Virginia. Like we're not doing that.
That's reasonable. They got Jalen Hurts, they cleared Austin Kendall,
and all is the better for it. We we discussed
so oftentimes how something looks but we don't actually make

(33:23):
calls and look within the reality of sport, the reality
of players, the reality of in late transfers. They should
never happen. They just shouldn't happen. It's not healthy for
the player, it's not good for the teams. It's just
shouldn't It shouldn't be allowed. But of course, now we've
reached a point where somebody complains to the media. The
media makes out woe is me, kid can't play. Otherwise

(33:45):
there's a twenty other schools that can play it. And
now play West Virginia and we'll see if Jalen Hurts
can be fixed by Oklahoma. Remember the infamous interception Super
Bowl forty nine guests who decided to throw the ball
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This is pretty cool. Uh, you know, I was doing well.

(34:49):
I'm listening to Dan Dan Buyer during the break. I'm
checking out my kids grades in real time. It's pretty
crazy things we can do. Now, how are you doing
in class? I'm doing okay, really really remarkable stuff. We're
on on our toes here. We also want to keep
you updated, not just to my kids grades. I'm gonna
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(35:12):
on all the news stories of today. We do so
by playing the game. Okay, this is game time side
on the Doug Gottlieb Show, Dan Buyer, what's the game
to name? Man? The game? Doug is all right, guess who?
Doug got a call from an NFL team to play

(35:33):
quarterback this past season despite not playing in the league
for the past couple of years. At five, you want
to try Hurt Warner. Let's see if the third time
is the charm Peyton Manning no to Tony Romo. Matt Hasselback, Yes,
that's who it was, Hassleback and interviewing with the ringer

(35:56):
he hasn't played since, says that a team called him
this off season to see if you or during the season,
excuse me, to see if he would be interested in playing.
Hasselbeck is forty three years old. Yeah, and remember he
could barely throw, but he led the Colt system wins
one of those Andrew luck banged up years. Um, I like,
I like both the house and back boys, and they

(36:17):
chose the good one. Tim. Tim's a nice guy. I'm kidding.
Tim is actually one of my closer friends in the business.
I always give him, give him the business. Um, So,
who who's the mystery team? Right? It's got to be
somebody who he played for earlier in his It was
a playoff A team in contention, was the report as well.

(36:37):
So that's probably the Tennessee Titans would be my guess, thinking,
so you know, maybe, yes, yes, I would, I would
say Tennessee Titans would be that team. Doesn't doesn't seem
like you know, but there's just not that many people
that have done it that can you know, that can
uh uh that that know how to good, that know

(37:00):
how to win. You don't have to have great arm
strength to do it. Guess who dug ultimately made the
final decision to throw the ball at the one yard
line in Super Bowl forty nine when the Patriots beat
the Seahawks and Malcolm Butler's interception. Who made that decision?
Who made the ultimate decision? Russell Wilson. That is correct,
and it's not just because of the throw. But in
a piece with the Detroit Free Press and talking about

(37:23):
new offensive coordinator Daryl Bevel in Detroit, of course, Bevel
was the Seahawks offensive coordinator. They spoke with Devirus Jackson,
who was the Seahawks backup quarterback. He says, on that play,
the Seahawks had two plays called a run and a past,
and depending on the look, it's Russell Wilson who would
make the choice. Wilson saw eight men in the box,
some man coverage with the corners on the outside, and

(37:45):
ended up throwing the ball that was intercepted. Yeah, when
we look back on that plane, there's some unbelievable plays
that have changed history, right, I mean that that wins
Malcolm Butler made. First of all, let's be Malcolm Butler
read the play because of film study and and jumped
the route. Also, she burned out that Russell Wilson threw
the ball in a place where you shouldn't have shown it,

(38:05):
throw it low. But some of that is Russell Wilson small,
So maybe he couldn't see to throw the ball where
it was supposed to be and was there a hero
ball aspect aspect to it. It was the right read
based upon how they're supposed to throw right and so
right play. And sometimes you tip your cap because Malcolm
Butler just made a great play. M hm. There was
There was another part that not many people talk about,

(38:27):
but as a Seahawks fan have seen the play so
many times. Ricardo Lockett hesitated on his route just about
a step. And if he doesn't hesitate, he's more in
front of Malcolm Butler, and that play then doesn't end
up where Butler gets more in front of him. Remember,
Lockett was like the fifth wide receivers, their special team's
guy on m on the Seahawks, and he ended up

(38:50):
being the guy on that route. So anyway, don't worry.
I'm not I'm totally over it, as you could tell.
Totally over it doesn't bother me anymore. Guests who Doug
won't be traded out despite being in the center of
NBA trade talks for the last week. Wait, who's been
trade talk less? Yeah? Who's been? But he's not going
to be traded now. Anthony Davis, Dennis Smith Jr. The

(39:13):
Mavericks ESPN saying that they are going to try to
work it out with Smith unless they can get good
value for the point guard, otherwise they're gonna keep them. Yeah.
I I think they want to get rid of him.
Um his reputation. Look, he's not a great shooter, but
he's also not not seen as a great worker. And

(39:36):
you know, you put that next to Luca don Check,
who is a great worker, is a good shooter and
seems to be about the right things. I really think
that some of the comments made about Slovenian basketball is
opposed to American basketball. That was more you know, their
their owner talking about um Mark Cuban talking about don
Check as opposed to Smith. Now, maybe Smith is like, hey,

(39:56):
message received, gotta get after it. But I also think
they don't think they could get appropriate value for him
and to just be a dump. Guess who almost traded
for Warriors guards Steph Curry back of the day, but
we're too concerned about his injured ankles. Milwaukee Bucks. Yeah.
Bucks owner Mark Lazarie told The Athletic that when Milwaukee
I'm sorry, go ahead, go ahead, I'm sorry. I was

(40:16):
gonna say. When Milwaukee was trading Andrew Bogatt, the team's
medical staff didn't believe in Curry's ankles, so Milwaukee got
Monte Ellis instead in the deal. I have said this
several times, and I got that from Chris Molan was
with the Warriors at the time. He's like, look, everybody
claims that that people were idiots for not knowing that.
David Khan didn't know. Look, the Warriors didn't know because

(40:39):
they said, you can have Monte Ellis or have Steph
Curry take your pick. So the Warriors didn't know. But
neither did the box. Near did the box. No one
knew he was going to be this. This is game
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(42:10):
have two Super Bowl teams to discuss. Think about that.
I mean two Super Bowl teams, and these are arguably
for uh, if not the four best teams in football,
they're right there in the four or five of the
best teams in football. And I don't think anyone would
argue in the end in the NFC, right like, Rams
were a dominant team all season long, picked by many

(42:32):
to go to a Winnis Super Bowl. Saints a little
bit surprising, but have the best records, so they've earned
the right to have home field advantage throughout. And we've
seen this matchup before and it was a good one,
but it felt like inevitably we'd see it again. But
but I do think that we're sometimes we're in this
weird space where we don't take a second to understand

(42:53):
what each of these teams and the players have accomplished.
And maybe the best way of pointing that out is,
did you guys see Andrew Whitworth last weekend when they
won the game? They beat the Cowboys, hard fought game
offensive line, which of course he man's was he was
a big part of the story. And then all his
kids coming around him, you realize, like, oh my god,
that's the first playoff game he's ever won. Great player,

(43:15):
Great dude and now gets chance to at least for
that time, celebrate the moment as he now gets ready
for the Saints. He joins us in the Doug Gottlieb
Show here on Fox Sports Radio. What was that moment
like to all of the hard work has now at
least paid off with one playoff win. Uh, you know,
it's an awesome moment. I meantime as a team, every

(43:36):
year you set out with goals um to be, you know,
one of the best teams in the league and have
an opportunity to play in the playoffs and then have
the opportunity went forward in the playoffs. So honestly, just
for this team and this year, it was a great
moment to have that accomplishment. You know, I put every
year kind of its home, and uh, it was just
awesome to be a part of this group and to
make that happen. Um, what was what was going on

(43:57):
with you guys? Because and look, if you want the
Rams and we watch every game, you watch the Rams,
the offensive line was dominant. Given Jared Goff time, it
wasn't just girly. Was your guys ability to give him
time and when he had time, he's a very good quarterback,
but he was under darrest during times. You know, later
on the season. The Bears game obviously was cold, and
that's a good defense. Lions game, he wasn't great. What

(44:19):
did you guys up front have to fix? That helped
Jared play better and of course has helped c J
and Girly play better as well. Um, you know, I
don't know. I said that we played really good in
this game, but really looking throughout the year, uh, you know,
I honestly think that a lot of people just continuing
to show how much ball they know. If you watch
our season, we're top five and rushing and passing. Uh.

(44:42):
You know, I've seen this through a lot of the
old line guys. It's just it's just funny to even
hear people think that it's, you know, our group that's struggling.
I mean, the reality is when you throw the ball
fifty times in the game and you're losing, Uh, you
create a world where you start to make that at
the issue and the truth is, yeah, you gotta play better.
You got a hold guys out. But you know, the
truth is a every game, it comes down to everybody.
All of us got to play well. And we thought

(45:04):
this week really, what it really came down to is
not our group just playing well, but really all eleven
and and everybody played well, and we looked like a
team that you know, finally got a little bit of
arrest and got healthy and played really well. And we
feel good about it. But like I said, I think
you know, this season, you can look at the film,
this group has played really well and we've done a
tremendous job. And you know what, there's gonna be laws

(45:24):
in the season, but we feel great about our play
all year. Uh CJ has been an unbelievable edition, right.
I Mean the thought was Girly was a little bit
banged up, wanted to give him a little bit of rest.
Maybe you just used him for a couple of weeks
and then it's become a dynamic one too. What's that
like to have a guy who was he was on
the street couple weeks ago now playing so well in
a playoff game. I think it shows you just really

(45:46):
you know, the caliber of player he is and and
the ability to just stay locked into you know what.
He didn't know if his season was over, he didn't
know really what's the next Just a great testament the
guys that are out there looking for an opportunity. Man
that he just got to be ready when you get
your chance. And and he's done nothing but show what
a great player he is and and help us, uh,
you know, win football games. And so I think that's, uh,

(46:07):
it's an awesome test them to him. It's an awesome
testament to our staff and our group. I mean, you know,
anytime you get somebody like that that comes in immediately
has success, I mean, it says a lot about what's
going on up front and also in our offensive uh system.
So I mean, you know, I mean it takes both parts.
It's a great job by c J. And it's a
great biologic break through a lot of guys making things happen.
He's a three time All Pro. He's Andrew wit Worth.

(46:28):
He joins us in the Doug Gotlip Show here on
Fox Sports Radio. You mentioned the film What the film
show you about the last time he took on the Saints. Uh,
you know, I thought a game that really, you know,
we're in the certain parts of it. We played really
good and and then just had a couple of goals
where we didn't you know, maybe score or move the
ball as well as we could have at certain points
in the game, but well, what I mean, what a

(46:49):
second half to come back and in that game there's
not many teams that come back from stuff like that,
and she usually shut her down and move on. But
you know what, what a way to fight back in
that game and get it back tied and have an
opportunity to go and try and win it and just
weren't able to come up with the play. And you know,
I think it's something we really walked away from that game.
I think it helped us to grow. I mean, it
really was a game Colvin. As a team, it was

(47:10):
one of those moments whereas a team we grew together
and really realized how much we all got to be
accountable to one another, of needing each other that full
sixty minutes. And um, I think that's one of those
things that we look back on our season. That was
a game our team grew and matured. What is it
about you? Like all your big games in your life
seem to go through the Superdome right like this, Like
you gotta go back home and play in the Superdome
and like, well you know what that just that actually

(47:32):
makes makes totally total sense. Range of Whitworth. You know what,
that's a special building. Man. I love that place and
I've had a lot of special moments there and you know,
um uh you know when loser draw. Every opportunity I've
had to play there has been amazing. And uh, you know, I,
like I've said before, that place will always hold a
special place in my heart from my athletic career. And

(47:52):
and what an opportunity this week and and uh we'll
go down there and two of the best teams in
the league will go at it and we'll see what happens.
Andrew were joining us on the Dug Guy Live Show
on Fox Sports Radio. Be as as honest as you can.
I know you haven't experienced the NFC champis a game,
but you just experienced the playoffs. I think sometimes fans
think all these things are circling through your mind, the

(48:12):
possibilities of the future. When you're playing. Do you think
about the ramifications or do you just think about next play?
What honestly goes through your mind when you're focusing on
a big moment, Well, I think throughout the week. Obviously,
you you're working really hard in training to win this game.
And I mean I would hope that you're dreaming about
the opportunity to win and move on and playing the
super Bowl and win that, I mean, all the things

(48:34):
ahead of you. But you know, your focus is really
on the week and and and so yeah, in your
lower moments when you're not studying film, when you're not
doing that, I mean, that's hopefully what you're dreaming about,
because that should be what's pushing the passion to succeed.
And so yeah, there's thoughts about it, but um, once
the you know, really you get to a Saturday and
traveling and stuff, it all becomes the game and really
the only thing you're thinking about each play and its

(48:54):
individual moment um, and and that's really all you can
focus on because it's gonna take more play the time
to win that game. And so um, it's really for
for athletes, I think guys in those moments, it's like,
once you're in the moment, that's the only thing you're
worried about. How much greater is the level of intensity
at this level than what you've played previously as far
as college or like well as far as playing the

(49:16):
pro like, like, look, dude, you've played at the at
the highest level of regular season football, but everyone says
and basketball the same, Baseball same like look, playoff intensity
is different. Wasn't your first playoff game this this last week?
It wasn't your first playoff game previously? But how much
different is the level now that we creep up into
more important games? Is it a different kind of football?
Like different? It really comes down so you know, if

(49:37):
you look throughout the season, people always talk about the
margins are so close, right, I mean, every team good
or bad, is is uh, you know, a couple of
plays away from winning a game. I think when you
realize that you're in the playoffs it's the final twelve, it's, uh,
all those teams are really really good, and now the
margins just got even smaller. Now now there's like, man,
it could be a play that dictates the game, you know,

(49:59):
or a couple. So it's one of those things where
once you're playing really good football teams that are just
as good as you have, just as good schemes and
talent and all that. Man, it just comes down to
every little second and moment of the game. And I
think that's why people love to watch it so much.
It can change so fast and and really that intensity
and passion. It is just so real, is because you know,
every single moment of that game could be huge. Yeah,

(50:21):
no part of you wants to play in Kansas City
this week or that cold right like that is that
I know, big offensive. I'm like, look, I'm okay with it.
I'm working anyway. But being in the Dome seems, even
as loud as it is and as hard as it
is this year, the snap down, it feels like that's
a much better environment than playing that cold in Kansas City, doesn't. Yeah,
I mean I would argue to those kind of similar
to thinking about the future. It's honestly, for us, we're

(50:42):
once we're in the game, it's the game. I mean,
playing in Cincinnati for eleven years and played plenty really
cold environments and games, and and uh, you know, once
you're out there, honestly, it's just that's the last thing
you're thinking about. And uh, you know, I think that
it's really something you know more that then, especially in
this moment, is intense, and it's is hot, and is
this playoff matchup will be I don't think those guys
will think one thing about the cold descent of the

(51:03):
game kicks off. That's gonna be awesome. Well listen with us,
use safe travels, the best of luck, continued health, and
a massive amount of respect. Grats on getting the first
playoff win. Hopefully you get a second one. I appreciate
you joining us on Fox Sports Radio. Thank you so
much for having me. I appreciate it. That's Andrew Whitworth
of the l A Rams who said they look guys
in no ball. No, we've played good all year long.

(51:24):
I would counter that with when he said they've had
a lull. That's a nice way of saying they weren't
playing as well as they previously had. That's a great
offensive line. That's I mean the story of that. Get
that team that is, both lines are are stellar. Our
thanks to Andrew Whitworth and Rams having Andrew with with
joining us here a couple of days before they take
on the Saints for the right to go to the

(51:44):
superl Doug got Leave show on Fox Sports Radio. NBA
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gonna ask him about not just how Kyrie played, but
what Kyrie said. Plus I'm gonna ask him about James
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it not called Eddie House's house when I go and
go into what as wells Fargo tonight? Um, because they're
not cutting me a check. You mean you haven't cut

(54:17):
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me a check. I cut them and there ain't been
no money. He's exchanged. Man, You know what I mean,
And I know exactly what you mean, Eddie. So are
you calling the game at night? Yeah? Okay, cool, I'll
see you up here, all right, cool? Eddie House joining
us on on the Doug Gotlip Show. Bucket get it
from back in in the day, great night in hoops.

(54:39):
Let's let's start with James Harden. I get that there,
that his team isn't healthy so that he has to
do a lot um And I also get that. Look
those of us who know, I mean like, that's a
dream scenario for anybody. Give me the ball and a
high ball screen and and just turnover. Miss shot, doesn't matter,
Just go just go play in the volume possessions, in

(55:00):
the pace of play, anybody's gonna put up numbers. But
these numbers are obscene but this is does this hurt
them when they get to the playoffs? It potentially could.
We've we've seen it before with James late in the
season and in the playoffs kind of slow down, and
they'd be unfortunate to see that because the RADI playing now.
I mean, I don't think I've seen anybody do it
like this. I've seen guys do it, you know, and

(55:23):
and do it over a period of a season, but
like in this, a little stretch that he's having right
now is just is unbelievable. And and to expect him
to continue that rate, I mean, if he does does
it be great, But it's gonna be extremely hard for
him to do that and they still have some steam
and a lot of energy and play like this later
in in in April, May and June. Look, I understand

(55:45):
that they can shut him down or they can rest
him some, but there's also a certain like you just
wire a guy, right when you wire a guy to
play one way, then you're like, hey, now we got
to the plaoffs. You want to kind of rewire you
to play a little bit differently, play a little little
bit more defense. Uh. I think he can be a
little bit less ball dominant when he has Chris Paul.
But there is a wiring that's taking place. It's really

(56:06):
hard to unwire or rewire better yet once you get
to the playoffs. Yeah, but it's a good problem to have.
Think about a guy that could just go out there
and get you fifty, you know, or forties. He's an
averaging forty the last few games here, and you think about,
I'd rather have that than not have it, right, And
it's and it goes two ways. When a guy's rolling

(56:28):
like this, he don't want to come sit out because
he's on a tear. He's playing the best, he's not
tired at all. Believe that he is not feeling nothing.
He is feeling the best that he's ever felt before.
I mean in his place shows it. So he's gonna
want to stay out there and play. But again, do
you risk the right now for the later on where
you're like, man, uh, I want to play really good.

(56:48):
I play well right now and took over this m
V people later in the season. I don't have anything
left for the playoffs because that's what we really all
playing for, is to try to win the championship. So, um,
it's amazing what he's one though, Man, I have never
seen it. Like I said, do you think the Warriors
have figured it out? Yeah, they're a smart team. They've

(57:09):
been in the finals four shy. Come on, they know
how to play basketball. And it's not like there are
a team that is a bunch of guys that just
know how to score and they play, they play together.
They know how to play the game offensively, defensively. Every
year they're one of the better defensive teams in the league. Um,
and that gets overshadowed by how good they are great
they are offensively, so um, not surprising at all. I

(57:31):
mean much of smart guys that want to win know
how to win, and you know, ego sometimes can come
in the way. There's a little hiccups you have during
the regular season, but you get right over that. Your
team gets right back on task. And I don't think
there'll be an issue. And with Bookie Cousin coming back,
come on, man, if he if he can just give them,
I mean, if he could be you know, se what

(57:52):
he was, that's still gonna be a whole lot better
than everything else in the league at that position. I
would agree. But here's my question. They've always won games
going small right their death lineup. Now the bookie can
say I'm good coming off the court and whatever. But okay,
and you want to use him, So how does it
How much different are they when you have Boogie at

(58:14):
the five offensively and defensively and Draymond, who played well
last night probably some of the best I've seen him
playing a while Draymond at the four. How much different
does that actually make them? I think, well, it depends
on what kind of Boogie Cousins comes back. What kind
of game are they gonna play with him? Is he
changing his gagscuse? In the interview of Rachel Nichols, he
said he's better than the player that he was before,

(58:35):
and it's all about his approach. I think he could
be as good as he wants to be, and he's
going to be able to fit in. That's a that's
another good problem to have. But trying to fit in
a Bookie Cousins then with a team of already four
all stars UH, and with UH with actually five All
stars out there. So I just think that if he is,

(58:56):
it's on him how he wants to approach it. I
think if he approaches it with the mate, Hey, I'm
just gonna get in where I fit in and then
eventually grow with the team. I think it's gonna work.
Let me for you, Let me play for you some
Kyrie was amazing last night against against the Raptors. Let
me play for you, something Kyrie said after the game,
I tell you one thing, And obviously this is something
that um it was a big deal for me because

(59:19):
I had to uh call Bron you know and tell him, like,
you know, I apologize for being that young player that
wanted to everything at his you know, at his fingertips,
and I wanted everything to be at you know, my threshold.
I wanted to be the guy that led us to
change that. I wanted to be the leader. I wanted
to be all that and you know, the responsibility of
being the best player in the world and leading a team,

(59:40):
it's something that's not meant for many people. And Brown
was one of those guys that came to Cleveland and
tried to really show will show us what it's like
to win a championship and it was hard for him
and uh, sometimes getting the most out of the group,
it's not the easy, easiest thing in the world. What
do you think of what he had to say, I
think it was. It was definitely I would said shot,

(01:00:00):
but just a message to his team, UM, basically saying, guys,
I was in your shoes before. I know exactly how itself.
I know what it was like. I know that how
good you are now great you can be, how great
you want to be, how bad you want to win,
but there's a way that you have to learn to win.
And I was in your shoes, so listen to me.
And then at the same time he's able to shout
out Lebron to give apology to him. But I think

(01:00:21):
that was more so a message to his team. Do
you think it will be well received? Uh? You know what,
Egos are fragile nowadays, UM, and you never know how
these guys are gonna take They're still young, they're still growing. Um.
At times, gods can be immature because they are what
nineteen twenty years old, and they could take things the

(01:00:42):
wrong way and out of context or and and making
something that it shouldn't be for the detriment of the
greater good. And it's all on the maturity level of
these guys. Who's gonna receive the message and are they
listening to what the message is actually saying or they
listening to who is coming from and uh, so that
it all depends on how it's being received. Yeah, it did.

(01:01:05):
Does feel like it's a great point that I didn't
think of that you bring up. But he's like, look
where he's sending a message. I also think you're you're
showing that you know, saying that you were wrong. Like, look, man,
I was I was wrong. I was young, I didn't know.
I think there's a lot of maturity in that. That's
the hardest thing for any guy, especially a successful guy
who hit a game winning shot in the Game seven
NBA Finals, to say, hey, I was wrong and Lebron

(01:01:27):
you were right. Like I thought that was kind of
a big moment last night that people I think a
lot of people in the media are taking the wrong way. Yeah,
I think it was. He understands though, how hard it
was and what Lebron was. Uh. That's why a lot
of people say it's hard to play with Bron because
he's striving for greatness. He expects greatness, and he demands
greatness things so much because he does it himself. He

(01:01:48):
demands you to be doing twice as much or just
as much. Um so that I mean, I think the
message was exactly to the team, but at the same
time just letting, you know, give us some pay homas
to Lebron at the same time giving us some love.
Like Man, you know what, I was a little knucklehead
at times, and I should have been listening. Now I
see what it's like. You know, I understand what you

(01:02:09):
were going through, you know, because he's basically the guy
been in the finals in the game seven, uh shot,
and it's just been been the multiple finals. So he's
the one with the most experienced even though they went
to the conference finals last year, he's still you know,
has cash over them. Eddie House showing us in the
Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sports Radio, UM, as well
as they played last night, and they've had some bumps

(01:02:31):
as of now. We're not even at the All Star
break yet, UM, Toronto or Boston. Who do you think
we're more likely to see in the finals? Man? That whoo,
that's the tough one. I'm gonna give Toronto the edge
right now because I just think they've been playing together
as a team, um all year long, and it seems

(01:02:52):
like they have they have the right recipe right now.
Isact everything they're just clicking. They're playing the right way.
Kyle Lowry is getting everybody involved off when he's playing.
UM Kauai is being Kauai UM. Danny Green is doing
what he does. I mean, Ibaka is having a great year.
It's just it's to me, it looks like right now,
if you were to ask me, I would go with
Toronald just because of their cohesiveness on both sides of

(01:03:15):
the UM. Chris Broussard said he talked to Rich Paul,
and Rich Paul said that if if it was the playoffs,
Lebron be planned, he's not playing. I take it as
men's your groin if it was the last you play.
But like you, you run the risk of re injuring it.
Why not wait till you're fully healthy. Some people look
at this as a negative, like, well, Lebron's just he's

(01:03:36):
trying to make the young guys look bad, trying to
make Luke look bad so he gets his own coach.
How should we take the fact that Lebron, though not healthy,
is more hurt than injured and could actually play. How
crazy does that sound as somebody sitting on the side
to try to sabotage somebody else, and we know how
the going is. You know that the groin is is

(01:03:57):
a very sensitive injury to be having, because if you
you feel sometimes like you're ready and you go back
too soon, you reaggravate and gotta sit out the same
amount of time again, and that would just cost the
team more. It's early, you know, we're still in January.
Get it all the way right and then come back
and then make your push. Um, because the last thing
that they need, obviously we see this is larn not

(01:04:19):
to be on the court. He has to be on
the court for them to have any kind of chance
to be in the playoff picture. Do you think Luke's
ultimately the coach next year? Uh, that's gonna be. That's
a tough one there. I don't. I think it's not
looking good for Luke. I think it's I just don't
think that. Um, I don't. I'm not sure that if

(01:04:40):
that he presses the right buttons for everybody. I mean,
you've see none of these guys, none of these young
guys are really stepping Kuzma's trying to with Lebron out.
Nobody really asserted yourself, is hey, look it, I could
be the guy that can you know, lead this team
or I could be that second guy or that third guy.
Nobody has really asserted itself the step Kuzma and kind
of slotted themself in that position. Oh so that that's

(01:05:03):
why I say that he's not pressing the right buttons.
This has been an oppor time for him to really
be encouraging Gods and letting him know and trying to
get guys off and do whatever you canda to try
to find that because ultimately, if they're gonna be in
a playoffs, they're gonna need players, secondary role players and
guys like that the second third option to really come
up big for you. So you need to build that

(01:05:24):
confidence early in the season. I would just counter to you,
they've given the opportunities to Ingram and to Alonzo. Alonzo,
I just don't think that that's his mentality. And Ingram
wants to take the shots, but I mean, he takes
too many midrange jump shots and doesn't it's just not
that good. Like he's just not as good as he
looks like Durant until he starts playing. They're like, yeah, no,
he's not drunk. He said, he looked like he built

(01:05:48):
like the only thing that he like Durant is his bill,
that's it. Yep. Yeah, And like he's he's just a
he's a bad version of him. He's just does He
doesn't mean he's a terrible player, but he's people wanted
to be something that he's not, and he's just I
think he wants to be something that he's not and
and he's not. I also think that it's the system

(01:06:09):
that he's in that I think that ball that that system.
When they're young and plant they need to be that
ball should be hopping around, moving around. I understand when
Lebron gets in, Uh, it's gonna be more so he's
gonna be having the ball in his hands a lot.
Rondo is again a guy who will distribute. So if
you outrunning and stuff Ingram is a ball stopper when
he gets it. He likes the ice so and slow
up and work at the elbow and and and and

(01:06:31):
that just kills momentum and kills just the way that
your offense it's predicated to run and you just you're
just a ball. You know how the ball stoppers are,
then you just it kills offense. Yeah. Um, look but Rondo,
here's a big thing that no one's mentioned Ronald hasn't
been playing. Rondo's hurt right, Like it is weird that
people say with lines that uh lebron has been out.

(01:06:53):
He has. They didn't have coups for a couple of
those games. They lost both those and they haven't had Rondo.
So now Ingram has had to be the wink Garden.
That's not a good thing because he, like you said,
that ball gets really sticky in his hands. Yeah, it's not.
That is not conducive for his game. To have him
at the point you want to put him in points
of attack in scoring situations when he catches the ball,
go to score. You don't want him to get the

(01:07:14):
ball and stop and look and move. So that's what
I'm saying. The coaches pressing the right buttons, devising players
to get them in the right position, not just have
them I saw all the time, or come down to
the shock block, to the basic picking roll. Let's get
some movement and get some misdirection things happening to where
I can maybe get him with the ball on the
move to where everybody's not staring at him. Let's get
him some easy buckets stuff like. That's all I mean

(01:07:36):
by pressing the right buttons. Awesome stuff. Eddie. I'll see
you tonight, of course, you the legend will be in
the house, Eddie House's house, Arizonna stay taking out Organstad
on Fox Sports one. Edie, thanks so much for joining us,
No problem, thanks for having me to see letter. Let's
get to uh Dan Buyer birthday boy had his first
drink last night one times too. Actually, yeah, how about

(01:07:58):
that selling writing with some you know baby face. So dude, Yeah, no,
like if I was, I'm not one of those people
that's really good with ages, but I would not say
you look like you're forty two years old. Well, thank you,
that's very Ramos. Ramos looks like he's seventy two years old.
So radio, Oh, John and I when we go out

(01:08:21):
to eat, we get the father son discounts for two.
There it is music you want to get on this.
I'm just a grandchild. I mean listen that. For Ramos
to be having another baby, you know, the age you
and most people are retiring is pretty impressive. Oh, the
Nixon Wizards should retire, um, but instead we send them

(01:08:44):
to London. That's where they're playing right now. Midway through
the third quarter, Nicks are on top of a score
up seventy three to sixty two. Jeff Green right now,
three points for the Wizards. I'll tell you that because
that's what it just said on the TV. But yeah,
Nick's Wizards say, like, why would you give us that?
That was just Evan, you know, having a little fun.
But Nick's on top of the Wizards by eleven midway through.

(01:09:04):
The third NBA All Star Draft is gonna be televised
on Thursday, February seventh. More voting results unveiled today, but
not much has changed. Lebron James still leads in the
West and Heck in the East and then the entire NBA.
Well Yata Sinteta Cooper remains the leading vote getter in
the Eastern Conference, so those two likely to be the captains.
No changes from the possible starting lineup is. Paul George

(01:09:26):
and Luca don Chech are behind Lebron in the front
court in the Western Conference, where Steph Curry and Derrick
Rose lead in the backcourt. Pistons forward Blake Griffin was
fined fifteen grand verbally abusing a game official follow when
they lost Monday to the Utah Jazz Jaguars. Running back
Leonard four Nette will reportedly challenge the team's decision to
avoid the financial guarantees remaining on his contract. That's according

(01:09:46):
to Pro Football Talk dot Com kJ kJ R in Seattle.
That is is reporting the Seahawks are gonna sign quarterback
Paxton Lynch this soft season. Well. At the Desert Classic,
first round play of the PGA Tour, Phil Mickelson has
the lead. He's at eight under par as he plays
his first round at Lakita Country Club. We'll be back
to the Doug gott Leave show with ten seconds, But

(01:10:08):
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but I family members said yeah, yeah, so yeah Ramas,
Oh yes, water beds very big seventies seventies. They're they're
making music. Music is young like music. Have you ever
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(01:10:54):
having one when I was like really young. But I
would have to ask them if that's some thing that
actually happened or something I just im imagining in my
head right now. Yeah, Um, there's some creepy things you
can creepy places you can go with your imagination remembering
your parents in the motion of a water bed. But
I will not go there, although I partially did. I

(01:11:16):
think I think I did. The water bed to me
is when people bought it, they thought they were buying
the next really cool thing, right You're like, oh, well,
it's it's like laying on a raft in the water,
and nothing's more relaxing than laying on the raft and water. Now,
I would point out that there are plenty of people.
I'm not one of these people, but there are plenty

(01:11:37):
of people that just can't do the whole water thing.
Like my wife, who she grew up in Oklahoma and
going fishing in a little, you know, little boats. She
just can't do boats at all, just the swaying of
a boat. She just can't do it. And cruise guy, Listen,
I get it. You love your cruises. And I know
that the cruise the that the boats are so big,
the ships are so big they don't sway back and forth.

(01:11:59):
Sometimes just the idea mentally of being on water the
screws people up. But like if we go on a boat,
she's she's out for like a week, Like her equilibrium
is just off. Anyway, I remember having friends that had
a water bed, and it was when they said, like, yeah,
my mom and dad got a water bed, let's go
check it out. Or I got a water bed. You're like,

(01:12:20):
that's the coolest thing ever, and like, you know, it's
not really that practical. It's probably not great for your back, right,
there's not that much support. Plus you're kind of swaying
in the middle of the night, Like do you put
a pillow on it? Because if you do, then you
kind of eliminate some of the whole, like like the
whole idea of the water bed, you know, and then

(01:12:41):
you know, as you get older, there's no real leverage
to be gained on the water bed, you know what
I'm saying. Or if you have and I like, now
I sleep with my dog sleeps on the bed, right,
does that kind of like, are we like swaying back
and forth because the dog is on? Are we not level?
And that doesn't mean that there aren't some some of
those new kind of attresses that don't that that are

(01:13:01):
the non traditional the memory uh was the memory foam
all the different kind of memory phone like, those are new.
Those are cool, but the water bed was like the
next cool thing, and we're always looking for the next
cool thing. And sometimes the old traditional mattress is actually
the way to go. Yeah. I like that we added
a pillow top to the old mattresses, and I like
that you don't feel the wires kind of coming through them.

(01:13:25):
But there is something to the traditional style of mattresses
which have stood the test of time though they've been improved.
That's what the cold quarterback thing is like in the NFL.
Want you to think about this first for a second. One, two, three, four, five, six,
seven eight. Let's go back nine years. Okay, So Brady, Mahomes,

(01:13:48):
Golf Breeze. Those are your quarterbacks, Tom Brady and Drew
Brees first ballot Hall of Famers. Brady is in the
discussion of and maybe is the greatest quarterback we have
ever seen. He's definitely the most decorated, most successful quarterback
we've ever seen. And Breeze is a top twenty on

(01:14:08):
anybody's list. Like, look, let's not overdo it. I love
Drew Brees. I think he's great, and I've been told
he's the real and genuine article as a person, as
a worker. Hey, but when we tell the Drew Brees story, um,
you know, it should be pointed out that they did
need the onside kick in the Super Bowl to win
that one. He hasn't been a good outdoor quarterback. Um.

(01:14:33):
And as much as he was hurt by having disastrous
defenses for a good three year stretch, there, generally superstar
quarterbacks teams don't fall below five. I think he's he's
he's great. Is he an all timer? Like? Would you
take him ahead of Aaron Rodgers? Now you wouldn't. Would
you take him ahead of Joe Montana? No, you wouldn't.
Would you take um ahead of Tom Brady? Know you

(01:14:54):
wouldn't you know? Would you take ahead of Peyton Manning?
Probably not. I don't think you would. But he might
win his second Super Bowl and they'll be talk of that.
But look, he's the top twenty in the in the
history of the NFL to play the position. He's at
least top twenty, maybe top ten, and some people will

(01:15:15):
put him top five. So in the last nine years
to think about this, think are these are the names
Brady Breeze this year with Mahomes, who I think everybody
thinks as the armed talent to be potentially a Hall
of Famer, and Golf who's a former number one overall pick.
Last year was a year filled with injuries. All the
quarterbacks went down, including the m v P Carson Wentz.

(01:15:38):
So we had Brady Borders in case Keenum right, essentially
three backups, three backups, three guys who had this at
some point in time. This year we're backups. That case
wasn't a backup, I guess, but they have been backups
in their career. That's the outlier year. Year before that
you had in the championship games Brady against Big Ben

(01:16:02):
and Matt Ryan against Aaron Rodgers. Year before that you
had Brady and Peyton Manning. Cam Newton was the m
v P against Carson Palmer and Palmer, by the way
you ask guys, Palmer went through a couple of different
phases where he was an elite quarterback. When he was
with the Bengals, he was the best quarter best young
quarterback in the game. And Kimo van Olhaffen roll up

(01:16:22):
on his knee in the first quarter against the Steelers
and then he made it back with with with theirs
on the Cardinals, Brady Luck, Russell Wilson, who has been
in two Superperls, Aaron Rodgers that was two thousand fifteen,
Russell Wilson calling Kaepernick, who was a flash in the
pan but had one incredible season with an incredible team
in the Niners. Peyton Manning and Tom Brady, Brady Flacco

(01:16:44):
and Kaepernick and Matt Ryan again, Eli Brady, Alex Smith
and Flacco in two thousand twelve and two thousand eleven, Rogers, Roethlisberger,
Mark Sanchez is the outlier. And you had Jake Cutler
with the Bears. Bears had the uh Airs had the
best defense in football. So the point is that while

(01:17:06):
we're searching for that new thing, and there's all these talks,
all the talk about the running quarterbacks and the next
wave of quarterbacks, what almost all these guys have in common.
One Hall of Fame quarterbacks are here more often than
they're not too pocket quarterbacks, guys that throw the ball

(01:17:26):
and don't run the football will stand the test of time.
During the regular season, first round of the playoffs, you
can figure things out with a limited quarterback, but eventually
you need a dude. And whether it's Brady or to
a lesser extent, Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers and Matt
Ryan and and those are the guys. And Drew Brees

(01:17:51):
and Peyton Manning, those are the guys are gonna get here.
And so this new idea of hey, young quarterback doesn't
make a lot of money, build a team around him
that will get you through the season, gets you to
the playoffs. But once you get to where it really matters,
it's a lot like in baseball. You get the playoffs
and you need starting pitching Aces one and two, But

(01:18:15):
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(01:18:59):
play for you a or shinn't something you may have
heard earlier on Fox Sports Radio or seen on Fox
Sports One. We call it. Say here's Nick right discussing
the Patriots trying to act like they're the underdogs. They
have been favored leading into this week in sixties seven
consecutive games that Tom Brady started. Since the undefeated oh seventeen,

(01:19:23):
they have played twenty four playoff games. They were favored
in twenty three of those playoff games. So what so
what has happened this year? It's very simple. What has happened?
They played in the first their first playoff game, a
team with a better record, a team that was coming
off a great performance, they had looked shaky, and I
would say a third of the national media picked them

(01:19:46):
to lose. And for the Patriots, that is as if
we all said they're the Jets now that they you
know what I mean? Wait, hold on, it wasn't one
in ten that said we could lose. It was one
in three. They had their worst regular season they've had
in a decade. Brady went from the m v P
of the league to a fringe pro bowler, and so
people analyze that as such. It doesn't make them the

(01:20:09):
bad news Bears. You are the greatest dynasty arguably in
the history of sports, with the greatest coach and the
greatest quarterback. And you just came off a game, you
were up thirty five, seven and a half. You playing
this card. I understand the motivational factor. I wonder how
much they they actually believe it. Well, why are we all,

(01:20:35):
as the media in such denial of what we've said previously? Right,
Like I've seen other people say this, Um andrews Ciliano,
who's has tweeted out, I find me one person who
thinks the Patriots suck. Lots of people have thought the
Patriots sucked lots of people. Even before this year, we've

(01:20:58):
had people, but this year special Effically, we have been
having people point out like Tom Brady ain't right. That
defense they hadn't been last year was the defense was terrible,
and they kept trying to find wide receiver after wide receiver.
They went out and got Josh Gordon for crying out loud.
That didn't work. We pointed out that Rob Gronkowski's old, like,
why are we in such denial of our own words?

(01:21:20):
It's okay to go like, hey, you know what, I
didn't think they're that good, and they found a way
to whoop the hell out of the Chargers. I'll point out, look,
I picked the Patriots to win, but I also said
that I thought the Chargers had If you listed the
ten best players on that field, the Chargers had eight
of them at least at least, and the game was

(01:21:41):
not competitive. It was not competitive at all. Basically, what
the Patriots did was the Matt Hasselbeck, we want the
ball and we're gonna score. No one takes the ball
in the NFL, no one. They all defer until the
Patriots got the ball, marched down the field and scored,
got it again, marched down the field and scored again,
got it end, march down the field and scored again.

(01:22:03):
And he COMPETI is right. People did think they suck,
They did think he's old. Well, their division stinks. Well,
you know, they're just they're not that good. They luck
they found a way blah blah blah blah blah. And
they are in fact underdogs. And so they're sitting there
going like, hey, we're underdogs. You've got a team that
everybody thinks. Their offense is awesome, their defense was surprising.
It's a tough place to play. It's Andy Reid's a

(01:22:25):
really good coach. Go ahead, bet against us, say not
a Patriot fan. But I don't under I just I
don't understand. I don't get while we can't own the
fact that many people in our profession called this thing
over and it's not joined the Doug Otlim Show next Wednesday,

(01:22:45):
as we broadcast live from the Farmer's Insurance Open at
Torrey Pines in San Diego. Are farmers? I mean, look,
take a lesson from Kyrie Irving, pick up the phone
and go like, hey, Lebron, my bad I was kind
of a jerk back then. Hey, guys, just own it.
It's okay. Why can't we all just take an ell?
Most guys taking an hour, Guys that haven't played in

(01:23:07):
sports to understand, you gotta take an hell. Sometimes Brown's
running back Nick Chubb joins the show. What does he
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(01:23:30):
Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio or minder You can catch
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from the Farmer's Insurance Open at Torry Pines in San Diego.
We are farmers, all right. We got a lot to
get to championships. Sunday is upon us Championship Gunday is
upon us. Um. So we want to talk about those, uh,

(01:23:51):
those four teams. We also want to react to last
night in the NBA James Harden another, you know, putting
up another fifty point effort, just crazy, and of course, uh,
the Golden State Warriors looking like they're ready to make
a run as Uh, what incredible shooting, just offensive performance
against the Pelicans. And then he had Kyrie Irving. What
he did on the floor, what he said after he

(01:24:12):
left the floor all worth discussing. But so too is
our next guest. Uh. They fired their coach mid season
and they became the better because of it, and they
didn't reward their interim head coach with the job. Instead,
they awarded their new offensive coordinator with the job, Freddy
Kitchen's new head coach of the Cleveland Browns. Let's catch

(01:24:34):
up with Nick. Chubby joins us here on the Duck
Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio on behalf of the
Good Folks at Pannini signing their trading cards in Los
Angeles today, Nick, how are you? I'm doing good. How
are you good man? How would you characterize your first
year in the NFL? I mean, is it was incredible?

(01:24:54):
You know a lot of ls and downs with coaching
changes and a lot of things that went down, and
and in the part of organization that's just didn't really
I didn't respect it going in for my first year,
but something like I used to doing something that I
think just made up made all of us better at
the end of the day. You know, we learned from
it and we were able to put together become closer

(01:25:15):
because about a you know, chaos that was going on
around us. But overall it was a good year. Yeah. No,
but I think I actually think you encapsulated perfectly right
like it was. It was wild if you if you're
really you know, I kind of get down to it.
All the ups and and all the downs. Um, look,
you had you struggled at first in terms of getting carries,

(01:25:35):
getting attempts. Obviously, you know, you had the you know,
the the big one against the Raiders, which is kind
of your welcome to the NFL moment. But what was
it like Earland season too? To be a guy I'm
sure your entire life you're used to getting ten carries
to only be getting a couple of looks? Again, what
was that like for you? It was definitely different for me,

(01:25:55):
just because I mean my whole life, I've always been
the start running back know, just going back to you know,
um read my rec league days. I've always been the guy,
always be got majority of carries. And you know, first
or NFL you want to come in and you want
to prove yourself as fast as possible. But for me,
it was it was a different round. So I had
to kind of sit back for a couple of games.

(01:26:16):
And I was mostly a special teams a guy, so
I was on every phase, you know, kickoff, kickoff, return, plump,
punt returned, and I've never done that in my life either.
Say was it was just very different for me. But
you know, some of some sayings just happened. I was
able to get the starting job, and man, things got
rolling for me. And Uh, I had, you know, a
pretty good year. No, you had to get a great year.

(01:26:36):
You had, you know, I end up having what was
the five hundred yard games? Four hundred yard games this
year obviously, and had had a couple of big ones Cincinnati, Denver,
and the Atlanta game obviously was the big one. And
you had the ninety two yard run. Uh, tell me
about special teams? Did you I don't see you have
registered to tackle? Did you actually tackle anybody? I did? Actually,

(01:26:57):
I was actually leading the team especially to tackles all
ready until the end of the season. It was like
a crazy like stat today they told me about who'd
you get the best? Who'd I get the best? Yeah,
who'd you hit? You're like, man, that was a good hit.
That was that was awesome. I can't even remember. I'm
made pretty good tackles against the Raiders. Uh, but I

(01:27:19):
don't even remember who was returning Nick Cheb joining us
in the Doug Gottlieb Show on on Fox Sports Radio.
Then you transition, Freddy gets the Freddy Kitchen gets the
offensive recording your job, and suddenly you start getting the
rock a lot more. What's that light to to go
into that same running back room when you're the guy
when you are when you're RB one, Oh, I mean

(01:27:41):
it's it's definitely different. Slow on your plate. You know,
people expect out of the running back inside the NFL,
and you know, I was a running back in Cleveland,
so I had a lot on my plate and high fantations.
But I think it worked out for me for most
part because Freddy Kitchens it was your running back coach,
and English promoted to the O C. So you know,
he was kind of running back by so we already
knew we was gonna run the ball heavy. So now

(01:28:04):
you've got your guy, your guys the head coach, right,
have you gone into like coach? You know Listen, I
got like carries a getting Cincinnati. I need about thirty
thirty eight couple of these games. Have you worked out
a deal with with Freddie? Like, Freddie, you got this
job because of me? You got a fee? Who got
you here? Well? Actually, I haven't talked to him. Yeah,
you know, I'm just kind of letting him soak it
all in. But you know, when I see I'm definitely

(01:28:26):
gonna you know, mention that ain't so we've been talking about.
You know, you have opportunity to feed me if you
want to. I'm here for you. I definite say something
like that. So what did you think of Baker before
you met Baker? Uh, that's kind of a tricky question.
I didn't really know him. I just know what I've
seen of him, and I had a sense to play

(01:28:47):
against him, uh in college last his last game of
the year in the Rose Boats. I just knew he
was a great player, and I knew that our defense
was definitely, you know, terrified of him and the things
that he was. Every you were able to do. But
I don't. I always thought was a pretty cool person.
You didn't, you didn't, you had no negative I'm not

(01:29:07):
saying what you think of him now, But before you
met him, there was no like, man, I don't know
about this dude right here. No, man, I know, I
didn't know, So I'm not gonna just him and I
don't know. But of course, like the media portrayed him
to be like, I don't know, just like cocky dude
and hot head. But I mean, I wasn't gonna, you know,
sit there and say it was because other people said it.
But it turns out, I mean, he's like a complete opposite.

(01:29:29):
He's very you know, fun to be around. Give me
to give me your best Baker story, because you know,
when you go home in the off season, people like, man,
what's bicker like? Give me one story? What's your best
Baker story? Uh, I don't know. I an sure if
I have what I mean, he's just me. He definitely
have stories, but like it's just like the smallest funny

(01:29:49):
things that he does. I don't know. I already don't
have exactly one, you know, funny story. Give him one
funny thing that he does. Mm hmm. He's he's just
like funny and marking Freddy Kitchens, you know, because Freddy
Kitch is very country from like you know, deep Alabama.
You know, so he's just very he could like market

(01:30:10):
his voice brown pretty well. Yeah, he does a dorset,
does a good dorset as well. He you know, in
your quarterback you can you can you can get away.
You can get away with that. Doug gotlip show here
on Fox Sports Radio. Is it more painful to experience, uh,
the Alabama loss in person or on TV? Meaning you
know last year had him in the National Championship game

(01:30:32):
when you're playing, and then of course watching them this
year in the SEC Championship game, which one is harder
to experience? I have to say definitely, Um, in person,
not not not being in the game, well like me
being a fan watching it, it's definitely worse than actually
playing in the game, because you know, it's funny because
as a player, you always feel like you have control.

(01:30:54):
So you're like in the game and you feel like
you can make something happen where you can change it,
and you pretty much saying that I'll come with the game,
but I understand I have no control, So I'll watched
it on TV and I was just like, oh man,
that's nothing I can do. They're coming back on us,
and uh, at that moment, I understood why fans are
so crazy because you're literally strecious. You are watching your

(01:31:15):
team play at that moment, I knew, man, and like
the fans stuff is real. Yeah, missing missing the field
goal was the deal, right, Like it's put us upset,
put you up seventeen. That's a wrap thing, come back
from it. And then he missed the feet. You know,
you got a good field goal kicker indoors missing wing Like,
oh oh oh, that's exactly what happened. But you know,

(01:31:37):
no one thought about it because we're still up by
you know, a good, good bit. But once is that
coming back? I mean that that miss still goal was huge.
Nick Chubb joining us on the Doug Gotlip Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Okay, so every pro athlete I've talked
to you said, hey, the biggest year for me is
between one and two because I figured out what I
needed to do to not just sticking the league, but

(01:31:58):
improving the league and take the next level. Because you
don't know until you actually playing the league. You've played,
you played every position, you know, all special teams, starting
running back, back up, running back. You know what you
need to do for next year to take it to
the next level. What what is that point of emphasis
or the points of emphasis for you in the off season. Yeah,
I mean that's exactly right. I agree with between you know,

(01:32:21):
the jump between first and second years you because I
know the game now and I know what I need
to work on. So for me, it's actually taking care
of my body because I mean, the season is so
long and like I played twenty games in one season
kind of preseason and it's just just right on your body.
And other than that, it's just me as a running back, um,

(01:32:42):
catching the ball, running more routes. I was asked to
do a little more, you know, running routes and catching ball,
and now I've had in college, so that was new
for me and I had I can still you know,
get better at that. So I say, catching the ball,
running routes and watching right the watching more film. That's
where the money is, right, was getching catching balls. Gotta

(01:33:04):
make yourself versatile. You want to play on all three downs,
you know, past protection. I don't know how you pat practice,
but you're already pretty good in past pictures. Otherwise you
wouldn't have been as as well regarded. Um who you
like this weekend, you've seen the Chiefs you've seen the
Chiefs in person. They put up thirty seven on you,
um and suddenly their defense came to play last week.
What are your thoughts in the Chiefs at home in

(01:33:25):
the cold against the Pats. H It's a bit boys
for me. You know, I got I got some sorts
of guys on the Patriots, so I got I got good.
I gotta go to Patriots. You know, I'm just my
best friends on him sale. My former teammate David Andrew
was a singer and I still taught to those guys
all the time, So I'm gonna stuff for them. Yeah. No, listen,

(01:33:47):
your boys. Sony got the ball and man, he was
doing some meeting last week against my Chargers. That was impressive.
But those of us who watched both of you guys both,
we watched both of you guys in Georgia, we knew
he had he had it in him. Hey, thanks to
the folks at Panini you signed and sign autographs. Of course,
I don't know what this weather is in Los Angeles.
Apologized for the rain. Come here with Panini has just
been pouring ever since you got here. That's crazy. Who

(01:34:09):
was expecting this? Nope, good thing he didn't bring the bikini.
Thanks so much for joining his Nick, Thank you all right.
That's Nick chub On, behalf of Pannini, signing some autographs
today on their NFL training cards in Los Angeles. Kyrie
Irving did something last night most guys, most of us
never do, and it's not even what he did on
the court. Eighteen assists and got the wind and at

(01:34:32):
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(01:35:18):
a Panini for helping us get him on. Man, we've
had a great day. You guys are doing a good job.
C any cats, Ryan Music, they're doing awesome. Rama's what
are you doing? Like I hear buyer, you know buyers.
He's doing updates. He do that, does updates for other stuff.
He's got his Sunday show, Sunday Morning Show, which extended
by an hour. Yeah, you got time in your hands

(01:35:39):
to make another baby. That's that's Rama's. That's shows that
I don't know, but you have the work ethic that
we really need here. We gotta we gotta motivate Ramos music.
That's what we gotta do. Motivate Rama's the great. The
great thing about Ramas though, is he's been doing this
a while. We mentioned he's kind of working on senior
citizen status, and I'm sure there's lots of other people
that that that Ramo's browbeat right, Like, Ramos is a

(01:36:00):
tough He may come across on air as the nicest
guy on earth, but when the microphone is off Ryan Music,
you can attest to this like he's like the devil incarnate, right,
Like curse words, the language, the demeaning way in which
he demands that people you know below him this way, Doug,
when you're on the road days like today, I fear

(01:36:22):
for my safety. Yeah, And I understand Dan Buyer wasn't
here keeping an eye on the situation. I'm not. I'm
sure I would probably just call in sick on days
like today. Well, John Ramos actually put a lock on
the outside of my door so I can't leave my studio.
That's how much power he has, a you'r. He has this,
he has this thing right like he has I know

(01:36:42):
when Jay Moore hosted this show, like he would make
it out like Ramos is a great guy, which means
when people say that, it means the opposite. And I
know that it's the opposite. Right, tough guy, But he's
so good at his job, so good at his job,
that I'm sure this happens to him all the time.
Guys who have worked on it, but you know, in
turn and whatever have come back and be like, look, John,

(01:37:03):
the way in which you belittled me for my performance
when I worked at Fox Sports Radio really got me
ready for what I do today, which is belittling others. Right, John,
that's that's your that's your philosophy, isn't it. I like
to take the youth of the world and just mold
them into a fine oiled machine. I think you kind

(01:37:24):
of you did kind of conflate two different metaphors there,
But that's okay. I understand what you're saying. John, We're
on that same I like to mold them in clay
into a fine oiled machine. Uh. Tome. He's looking at
you like music and music you better high five and
when he wants a high five on that take. It
was awful, but it was it was beautiful at the

(01:37:45):
same time. It's beautiful. It's beautiful way with words, John,
uniquely my own Yes, yes, yes, that's yes. That's uh,
that's redundant. You are uniquely your own. Um. So here's
what kyr Irving did last night. He went out, he
dropped eighteen got to win over the Raptors, who, by
the way, the Raptors didn't look great last night and

(01:38:05):
looked like Kauai kind of struggled to fit into there's
the he looked like at times. Kevin Durant looks playing
with the Golden State wars like everybody else plays one
way and you want to play a different one anyway. Kyrie,
who of course, has been under a little bit of
a little bit of on the pressure, a little bit
of negativity because of something he said about his teammates, Hey,

(01:38:28):
you know, um, they haven't been there. They don't know
how to win. I want to teach him how to win.
And he backed backed off from that a little bit.
He had taken Listen to what he had to say
after the game. I tell you one thing, and obviously
this is something that um, it was a big deal
for me because I had to uh call bron you
know and tell him, like, you know, I apologize for

(01:38:49):
being that young player that wanted to everything at his
you know, at his fingertips. And I wanted everything to
be at you know, my threshold. I wanted to be
the guy that led us to a I wanted to
be the leader. I wanted to be all that. And
you know, the responsibility of being the best player in
the world and leading a team is something that's not
meant for many people. And Brown was one of those
guys that came to Cleveland and tried to really show

(01:39:11):
will show us what it's like to win a championship,
and it was hard for him, and uh, sometimes getting
the most out of the group. It's not the easiest,
easiest thing in the world. It's not the easiest thing
in the world. Now, look, we can take this a
million different ways. You can say, well, maybe he wants
to be a Laker. Now I don't think that's the case. Well,
maybe he's super frustrated with the younger guys and this

(01:39:34):
is his way of talking down to them without talking
down to them. Hey, I was in your shoes once,
young fella, now learned from me. Or you can just
take it at the surface, which is a guy admitting that,
you know, I was a jerk. You know what, I
was a jerk. I wasn't the greatest guy on earth.
I wasn't the greatest teammate. I thought I knew and

(01:39:55):
I didn't know. And now that I know, I know
I was wrong. And that's how I take it. And
that's what many people call up and tell John Ramos,
al Right, Like I just I thought you were being
mean to me, John, giving me a wedgie wet willie,
you know, doing atomic situps and you know making me,

(01:40:15):
making me do those you know, making me run all
your errands, pick up your kids, fold your clothes. I
thought that was you were just molding me. People call
John Ramos an apologize all the time. It's like the
hardest thing for guys to do, though, right. I was
kidding obviously with the Ramos part, But in all seriousness,
have you ever told somebody who gave you some great

(01:40:38):
advice that you fought in your younger years that you've
come back around to Hey, man, you were right, I
was wrong. You're smart, I'm stupid, You're good looking. I'm
not so much. So I think it's um I I
take it at face value. Music. Do you think there's

(01:40:59):
there's an alternative at work there? Do you think there's
something where he's trying to It's like what Eddie House said,
where he's he's trying to connect with the younger players
and almost talking down to them while while while being
self deprecating himself. I think his intentions were right in
that entire situation, and me personally, I wouldn't take it poorly.

(01:41:20):
But I do know where Eddie's coming from, where he
says a lot of egos are really sensitive these days.
So I wouldn't be surprised if a couple of days
from now, maybe a couple of weeks from now, if
they go on a losing streak, you see some sort
of anonymous sources report, you know, locker room divided after
what Kyrie Irving has been saying. So I agree with

(01:41:41):
you and that I think it's very big of him
and you know, self deprecating for him to actually admit
that he was wrong, that he actually looks to other
people for guidance because he wants to be a leader.
I just wouldn't be surprised at all if there were
some other guys in that locker room that took it
as like, oh, you know, you're trying to tell us,
look what we did last year without you kind of thing. Yep, yep,

(01:42:03):
uh buy? Or how do you take it when you
when you hear what I think is a guy being
this is one of the things you have to do.
You have to be self deprecating, right, you have to.
You have to admit fault yourself before trying to point
out the faults and failings of others. I like that.
But I and for whatever reason any and I think

(01:42:25):
this is true leadership. But sometimes us in the media
and maybe people in social media can take things a
different direction. How do you take it? I I liked
everything that I heard from from Kyrie. I really actually
liked everything I've heard from the for the entire week.
And that may seem odd because he was apologizing for
what he did earlier in the week, but it seems

(01:42:47):
that he is growing up in ease, being mature and
understanding his role. And it's not about a mi me
me thing. So the the part of the conversation that
he had with Lebron last NID, I even like the
part where he's when they report arrest, What did Lebron say?
And he was like, hold on, I gave you enough already,
you know, like I'm not gonna tell you what he said.
But I liked everything he said, and for him to

(01:43:07):
to say those things and and sound like he's matured,
I think it's it's been great. M hmm. Yeah. I've
been wrong a million, you know, a lot of times,
and it's oh, I didn't realize that I've been I've
been Listen, I've been wrong before. A matter of fact,
I called up Lebron James and said I was wrong.
I don't take it as anything other than that. So
what do you think Lebron's reaction to that was? I know,

(01:43:30):
like you you just said a couple of minutes. I
think Lebron was I think Lebron was hurt by the
Kyrie stuff. I think Lebron was hurt um because Lebron
wants to be He wants to be the guy you
can see. He wants to be the guy that other
people call and say, you were right, Lebron, you were
a great leader. Lebron, like, I think he was hurt
by it. I think he knows it hurt his image

(01:43:51):
that a guy who had just won a championship said,
I don't want to win another champ and try and
compete for another championship with you. I don't. I don't
want that. I think anybody be hurt by it, anyone
who gets dumped. I don't care if you go on
you marry a supermodel or the greatest woman on earth.
It steals things a little bit at the time, steals
things a little bit outterwards. And even if Lebron was

(01:44:12):
at fault for trying to get Chris Paul in a
trade after they won a championship, which is part of
what led to the disintegration of their relationship, like Lebron
didn't see it that way. Do you think do you
think that's how maybe Durant and Westbrook, if we've heard that,
maybe their relationship is a little bit better. Do you
think that there was any apology from Kevin Durant of

(01:44:33):
being like, hey, I didn't realize that this is how
it was going to turn out. Do you think there
was anything on because I mean Lebron and Kyrie it
was almost like big brother little brother thing where Durant
and Westbrook were equals. You know, I'm I'm I'm curious,
and maybe that's why. Maybe that's why Durant couldn't do that,
or Russell couldn't do that to Durant, but you know,

(01:44:55):
Kyrie is able to do it because their relationship is different.
But I curious that if this would have ever have
happened or has happened between Durantha and Westbrook. Yeah, no, listen,
I don't I don't know, but I think it's a
mature thing, like we we we cut into pieces, Like dude,
that's a mature thing to go up and say to
call somebody up and say I was wrong, Hey, dude,

(01:45:15):
I was wrong, and me like, I'll just tell you
how I'm wired. You do that. For the most part.
I had this discussion with my son today. We were
driving to driving to schools pouring rain in southern California,
and I said, um, that we have there's a crossing
guard named Ralph, and it's pouring rain, and Ralph has

(01:45:38):
this and rain obviously all week in Southern California, which
I know if you listen to us across the country, like, dude,
it's five degrees here Crimeer River. But it's different. It's
it's very different for Southern California's to be this much rain.
It's a lot. And so there's an old man who's
uh named Ralph, and Ralph is just the nicest fellows
crossing guard and the school the public momentary goes to,

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there's a ton of kids on bikes and scooters and
little kids and babies and whatever, and he's there and
he's he's like the postal worker every day, no matter
what the weather. So he's wearing this big rainslickers pouring
outside and nobody's nobody's walking to school today because it's
pouring rain. And we stopped were waived at Ralph and
he's like, Dad, can you believe that Ralph does this

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for free? I said, well, I believe in the good
of people, and ral is a good guy. He's like
I said, we both agreed, people are good. And even
if you have that in you, it takes a lot
to get it to come out and admit flaw, admit fault,
admit you were wrong. But the way I work is

(01:46:44):
even people that have wronged me before, if you come
out and you know what I was wrong, there, all right,
I'm good and we move on light. Life is way
too short to carry a grudge when somebody's already apologized.
I struggled to carry a grudge even when people haven't apologized,
because I try and work it out in my mind. Well,
maybe they had a lot of other stuff going on,
and I've done some because I do what Kyrie has done.

(01:47:05):
I've done some stupid stuff and act like a jerk
before I get it, and usually somebody says my bad.
We're like, all right, good, that's it. And maybe that's
the athlete in me, right. That's how it works in sports,
where you come down on a three on one break
and you throw one into the stands my bad like
I try not to do it again, trying to do
it again. Let's get to Dan Buyer for an Updake

(01:47:27):
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(01:47:47):
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(01:48:08):
criticizing a game official following the Pistons lost to the
Jazz on Monday. In the NFL, KGr and Seattle the
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(01:48:28):
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you ever called somebody and said you're sorry? I mean,
I know I've said sorry, but I can't think of
any I can't think of anything like that Kyrie type
of situation where it's been something that I've reflected on
from a couple of years ago and then called someone
up from there. But I definitely would say that I'm

(01:49:30):
the type of person who has no problem admitting when
I've made mistakes. You know right away, m hm um, hey,
I was I was going to Uh, I was gonna
ask you, guys, this is um and buyer. If you're busy,
you let me know. Is there a sporting event that
you would go to with the weather that it's supposed

(01:49:51):
to be in Kansas City? Like I was trying to
rack my brain. I have this not death wish. I
have this um desire at some point to go to
a game in Green Bay. And when I was at ESPN,
this is Doug gotlip Shaw on Fox Sports Radio. John
Anderson is a longtime friend of mine in a former

(01:50:13):
he was my neighbor where where we lived and his
he grew up in Green Bay. Mom still lives there.
And Uh, I was when far first came back to
play for the Vikings against the Packers. I was going
to go to that game. And he's like, look my mom,
she can't even bear to watch far in a in
a Vikings uniform. You can have our tickets. You can

(01:50:35):
stay in our basement, have our tickets. And I was
gonna go. And I had little kids, and I was
like the one place I'd like to go. I don't
think i'd like to go when it's zero degrees, but
I wouldn't mind going in the fall, maybe even late fall.
Is Green Bay. But I just can't think of a
sporting event or a game where I would go It's

(01:50:55):
zero degrees outside and the windshill is in the negatives.
That just doesn't sound like fun to me. Can you
think of one music? Can you think of any dream?
Southern California guy, Yeah, I don't think so. Last year
when we even had to spend very minimal amounts of
time outside in Minneapolis for the week that we were

(01:51:16):
there leading up to the Super Bowl, pretty similar conditions,
And I can't think of anything that you could present
to me that would that I would accept to stay
in those type of conditions for, I mean NFL game,
you have to be there for like four hours. I
can't think of any I do think we're jaded. I

(01:51:38):
went to games younger. I was at a game that
was zero degrees at lambeau Field Packers and Raiders. It
wasn't a playoff game. I was also at the NFC
Championship when they beat the Panthers in the mid nineties,
which wasn't as cold if you are. If we've we've
been fortunate enough to be in sports media to go
to great events and so and maybe we kind of know,

(01:51:59):
all right, well, there'll be another game that we go to.
But for the fans in those cities to have those opportunities,
I mean, like, what an opportunity for the Kansas City
Chiefs to home game Brady comes to town? Could be
the end, Like, there's no way that you're missing that.
And that's where I I think people are to the
point of yeou go. If I was a Kansas City

(01:52:22):
Chiefs fan, there would be zero doubt I would be there.
And Dan's a real fan. We're just fair weather over here. Yeah, Ramas,
would you go to anything? Nope, Nope. I went as
a kid to the mud Bowl at the Coliseum, but
I was a kid. I think kids are much more
apt to going to things that might think are kind
of fun like that, but not not now. I would
never go sit out in zertegre Weather. I don't care
if the Rams are in there or not, or any team. Um,

(01:52:46):
I don't know. I just I can't think of one
of that would I would go to. I just it
just I went on went once to the Patriots against
the Jets is Monday night football. This is probably my
kids are my kids are little, so I'm gonna go
like eight years ago. Maybe maybe maybe more, but probably
like eight years ago Patriots Jets and went up there

(01:53:09):
was a Monday night game and took the night off.
A bunch of guys in my neighborhood, other Patriots or
Jets fans. We we tailgated outside for like two hours
and it was freezing, I mean freezing now full disclosure.
I sat in a in the in the luxury box.
I know a guy with the Patriots and marketing, and
he got me tickets and we ate good. It was

(01:53:32):
awesome up there. Um. And I said to myself then, like,
there's no chance I would ever be outside for an
entire game like this, because tailgating was bad enough, and
we had a we were standing down wind from a fire,
and I was still cold. So I guess you're better
fans than me. I'm not really sure. I just it's
too cold, too cold for me. I just think that.

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And I'm actually surprised in John's answer for what is
what is on the line for? And it's specifically it's
for Kansas City. I mean, I haven't been to a
super Bowl since Super Bowl four. You know, this is
Brady's coming to town. It's not watch it on TV.
I know, I know, but it's it's a different. This
is this is that game that you want to tell

(01:54:17):
your grandkids about that you were at the outside. Are
you crazy? Watch on TV when they show the highlights
over and over you say I was in section twenty eight,
or that we were on that was our end of
the field where that game winning play happened. It's those
sort of things, and I'm I just I think if
if you're a New England fan, I think it's different. Heck,

(01:54:38):
the NFC Championship games in your stadium three out of
every four years, it seems like. But for Kansas City
to have this and to have it in their backyard
when there's been so much excitement, I mean, I guarantee
that entire city all the kids go to school tomorrow there.
You know, it's it's a. It's a. It's like it's
what colleges like. It's what the Big twelve is like.

(01:54:58):
It's what the SEC is like, the Big ten is
like parts of the A SEC is like no, no, question.
My point is more like I just wouldn't go. I
can't do it. Like I was in I was at
Staples the other night. We were like thirteen rows up
and I was looking up in the upper deck and
like Game seven the NBA Finals, I wouldn't sit in
the top deck and that's indoors. I wouldn't do it.
I would totally do that for me. For me, it

(01:55:20):
is strictly, strictly the temperature thing. And I'm definitely, as
Doug said, I'm soft. I've grown up in southern California.
So how long do you think it's too long? All
of you guys out in the cold? How long is
too long? Man? And I'd say an hour, maybe two.
I was gonna say this may sound weird, but it's
really only four hours because but if you park and

(01:55:44):
when you leave, if you do get you get used
to it, and any dress for it sound like it's
a surprise. Correct, It's not like you're out there for
twelve hours unless you're tailgating and doing that stuff. And
then by the time you're three days later. Yeah, I
I um, yeah, I'm I'll just I'm I'm I I

(01:56:10):
you you do your your body does adjust to it,
but it's still and you dress for it and you're
all layered up, but it's just not comfortable. She's not fun.
It's hard enough to go to a food Get me
to go to a football game anyway, where you're missing
half the stuff because you don't see the replays. I
don't know. I was just thinking about that, and I
knew I didn't I knew Buyer would be the guy
who would go. I just didn't know he would go

(01:56:30):
with such enthusiasts. I just I try to look at
the the whole picture and of being I went to.
As I said, I went to the Packers Panthers championship
NFC championship game in the mid nineties where they ended
up going to the Super Bowl thirty one and beating
the Patriots. I wasn't even a Packers fan, but I
wanted to go, and, you know, just to be a
part of that. So I can't imagine what it was

(01:56:51):
like for the Packers fans to have that game at
home after not being in the Super Bowl for thirty years. Now,
you take Kansas City and it's been almost fifty I
would you know, times to buy a up five. It's
gotta be amazing. I love that Len Dawson picture that
famous pictures from a halftime of Super Bowl one where
he's grilling a cigarette butt at halftime with the Fresca Right,
Oh yeah. Can you imagine if we saw that today? Like, like,

(01:57:14):
my my son, we were watching Raiders of the Lost
Ark and he's like, Dad, did everybody smoke when when
they filmed this? I was like, well, it's supposed to
be the nineteen thirties anyway, It's really really interesting all
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We call it the press, the press. Damn buy what
he got, my man. Paxton Lynch has a new home.
The former first round pick of the Denver Broncos signed

(01:58:37):
by the Seahawks to compete behind Russell Wilson. Brett Hunley
was brought over from Green Bay to be Russell Wilson's backup.
Now Paxton Lynch could be buying for that job. It's over,
Jenny uh Well, Brett Hunley is that very good? Paxson
Lynch hasn't trying to be pretty good very good. He's

(01:58:57):
also it's just weird. Signed in January, like we are
so far away from it, mattering, but obviously they think
they can rehab and they get him. It's it's a
it's a good thing for Paxton to sign this early.
Now only is their level of investment. But also it
gives you a chance to get up to speed and
to really get to work learn the offense. And that way,

(01:59:17):
if the Seahawks draft a backup in the seventh round,
you already know where you're supposed to be, what you're
supposed to be doing. Mark Slayra throughs a friend of
the program, has said that you know Paxton Lynch was
last one there, first to leave, Seahawks will get an
idea of if that's still Paxiston Lynch. This offseason, Hall
of Fame quarterback Brett Farve told Sirius Sex MNFL radio

(01:59:38):
that if he were as Buddy Doug Peterson, he'd have
stuck with Nick Foles as the team starting quarterback for
next season. Five said Foles reminded him a bit of
Tom Brady because of what he does in the pocket
and because he thinks fools is quote clutch end quote. Well,
I like Brett, I don't think there's any sort of
similarities between the two, except for the fact that um

(02:00:01):
one bread obviously nose quarterbacking. And did you guys see
the Joey Bosa wired wired up clip from last week
where he was he kept told Tom Brady. Tom started
getting rid of it so quick, right, that's one thing
fools does. Folds gets rid of it really really quick.
Now he's not as accurate getting rid of it as
quickly as Brady is. Just look if if, if the

(02:00:22):
rest of the league agrees, then he'll get a pretty penny.
I think the rest of the leagu will see it
as he's fine, he's okay, he in some in a
tight spot, he can play, but long term he's not
an elite quarterback. Moving on, another quarterback transferring, this time
two out of Austin, Texas quarterbacks Chamb Michelle and Cameron

(02:00:43):
Rising are going to transfer. According to Orange Bloods, Bruchelle
expected graduating May it would be eligible to play next
season as a graduate transfer. Yeah, the Big twelve. Well,
he started as a freshman, right in Chamber Chell started
starts a freshman, but he started for a different coach obviously. Yeah,
so none of this is nobody wants to sit and

(02:01:05):
wait and be the backup. Um. The one part that
no one is talking about outside of me is when
you transfer, you do become a guy without a home,
right like Nick Chubb and Sonny Michelle. Granted it's running
back and you can play to it once those guys,
one of them could have left, they chose not to.

(02:01:25):
They both became you know, Chubb was the second round
pick because of a knee injury he suffered, whereas Michelle
was a first round pick. But if they left Georgia
went to another place. Even if they were a start,
you're not really for one year, you're not really part
of a different programs family, and you're kind of out
of the family you leave. That's a big part of
transferring that late in your career. Spurs head coach Greg

(02:01:47):
Papovich told The New York Times that he doesn't know
if you'll coach next season. Papovich is in the final
year of a five year contract. He will also be
the head coach of the US Olympic team in You know,
his wife died obviously last year, and when he says
he doesn't know, that means he knows he's probably not
gonna be back. But he's done a great job with
this team. He's incredible all the time, one of the

(02:02:08):
all time great coaches and clinicians and respected guys in
the NBA. I just don't know how they dig themselves
out of where they are and kind of that middle
of the pack of playoff teams. Antonio one versus for
this weekend, Duke and Virginia playing Duke not likely to
have Trey Jones, but that did get some good news
on him leaving practice today, reports saying Jones not gonna

(02:02:29):
miss the rest of the season, could be back much
sooner than previously reported from that a c joint separation
in his shoulder one. Uh yeah, so he'll be back
sooner rather than later. I think they need they need
Tredy Jones badly, badly, because he's just the straw that
shures to drink. Not the best player, not the best prospect,

(02:02:50):
but maybe the most important player. Remember, also didn't have
Cam Reddish against against Syracuse, who's their best shooter as
a freshman. I think Virginia's got a chance to beat him,
but Duke still would be my favorite to win the
national championship above Virginia. And I think Virginia makes the
final four this year because they won't be in the
same bracket as Dots. The Mats have invited Tim Tebow

(02:03:12):
to Major League spring training. Fox Sports John Morrossi says
Tebow likely to start the season at triple A for
the Mets. I only see this as a positive. He
actually makes it and deserves the spot in the bigs.
We'll see third year in in baseball. Now we'll know
if he's really any good. First year it was halfway,
you know, it's halfway through the year. Swing was so long.

(02:03:34):
Last year he showed some improvement. Now we'll now like
you're thirty years old, you're getting married. We'll find out
this year. Backing out there and pressed that was the press.
All right, tomorrow, we got a big show. Sam Donald's
gonna be our guest tomorrow, Sam Donald, and we'll we'll
find out if he put the do not Disturb on
calling Calherd for texting him and lusting over him. That's

(02:03:56):
a big thing. Jeff Schwartz is gonna be our guest.
John Middlecoff will be our guest as well. Man. Awesome show,
awesome show, and we'll try to survive and be rating
from John Ramos. All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb
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