LeBron James Disappearing In Game 4 Was Weird

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Boom What Up Doug Gottlieb Show Live
from Sin City Today, rolling on on Fox Sports Radio.
Kind enough to be the uh welcome in by the
Coaches Versus Cancer Group Las Vegas Golf Class to get
more of that upcoming in the show. But what an

(00:22):
outstanding sports weekend. We can pretend, not stop pretending we
care about horse racing although it actually was an interesting
horse race. I'm told the hockey playoffs continue on, but
uh sorry, could not possibly care any less. And Lebron James, well,
it didn't look like Lebron James yesterday. That's where we'll begin,
That's probably where we'll end. It's really interesting to me

(00:46):
there was a lot of discussions throughout the last week
and into the weekend and now coming out of the
weekend about Lebron James and about the number one seed
and about the Boston Celtics. All right, let's let's start
at the beginning of last night, because the series was
over and it's still probably is over. It's just not
completely over. It's like in The Prince's Bride, where he

(01:10):
wasn't all he wasn't all the way dead, he was
mostly dead, which as we've known as somewhat alive. That
doesn't mean that the Celtics were blazing or bluffing. That
just means that the Calves are the better team. Nobody's
disputing that. And Isaiah Thomas being out though, that changes
the Celtics and in many ways gives them a little
bit more versatility. Still, you take away the leading score

(01:32):
from a team that had inferior talent and had a
bad matchup in comparison to the Calves. There's a reason
they were down twenty one points last night. But at
last Marcus Smart hit seven threes, Jonas Jerebko hit two
big late threes. Lebron James had one of his worst
playoff performances ever. The Calves could not get a stop late,

(01:53):
and even though Kyrie Irving had twenty nine and Kevin
Love had Love had all seven of his threes in
the first half, the ball and self has come storming back,
and behind a beautifully drawn up play from the Maestro himself,
Brad Stevens. It's one thing for the shot to go in.
Shots go in, shots don't go in. You hear the
cliche from NBA front office people, from coaches and players,

(02:14):
and of course and now feeds down to the broadcasters
make our miss league. But the truth is that most
plays in the NBA don't create open shots. They create mismatches.
That one created a wide open jump shot. That was
the fact that it went in, and the way it
went in made it look different than it actually was.
Brad Stevens called time out, drew up a play and

(02:36):
it worked for perfection, and they took the very last
shot of the game and it went in perfect execution,
and of course it when it the result is what
we react to. I'm reacting more to the process, the
timing the play, the fact that he was wide open
because of the design of the play was all perfect
and then it happened to go in. And the more
often times you get an open look in the NBA,

(02:57):
guys are gonna make those shots. But all anybody wants
to talk about Islabreezy is Lebron James and whether not
now we take him off the pedestal that some people
like Nick right Friday on the show put him on
next to Michael Jordan's. What I tweeted out last night was, look,
guys are entitled to having a bad game. They are

(03:18):
Jordan had bad games, Magic had bad games, Bird had
bad games, Kobe had lots of bad games in the playoffs,
Shack would have bad games. They've all had bad games.
Durant's had bad games. What we get into this better
or worse thing? And that's not the smart argument. It's
there different and here's why they're different. Lebron didn't have

(03:40):
it last night, by his own estimation. I'll play that
for you in a second, did not have it. But
when Lebron doesn't have it, he's not Kobe Bryant where
he's gonna sheer force of will still keep shooting. He's
not gonna Michael Jordan try and get to the free
throw line. He's gonna defer. This is Lebron James is
a different superstar we've ever seen in that he can

(04:02):
make the league quiver because when he's got to go,
and there is literally no one in the world that
can stop him, especially based upon the way in which
NBA games are now officiated. On the other hand, when
he doesn't have it going, he's okay letting other guys play,
and we just haven't seen that before. Here's Tyron Lieu

(04:23):
explaining why his best player and the best player in
the world had a bad night. Um. Um he said
this about the fact that he's human, and it's human being.
He's human, and because he's human, human beings are tired

(04:44):
and have a bad night and don't play well. He's human,
so he's gonna have a night like this, And um,
he didn't shoot the ball well. And we still had
a you know, and a game we should have won.
But you know, um, they played hard, they scraped. They
have a scrappy team. We knew that coming into tonight.

(05:04):
Um knew it wouldn't be easy, but um, you know
that some things we can correct and come back and
ready to go on TUSI. You may think this is
too many takeaways from one game, but to me, this
makes all of my points all kind of come together.
Doug gotlip show Fox Sports Radio, so the points are
kind of in non sequential order. Look, Lebron James has

(05:26):
a conscience. It's one of the things that it's one
of the things that that I think intelligence brings. He's
a very smart person, a very smart basketball player, but
sometimes he overthinks things. And I think this is something
he overthinks his jump shot when he's not making it,
he can lose confidence in it. We've seen it in
finals in the past, even championships. They won, championships they've lost.

(05:47):
There are times in which he will lose confidence in
his jump shot that didn't happen to Jordan's, that didn't
happen to Bird, that didn't happen to Magic, that didn't
happen to Kobe, that didn't happen to other other grades.
They don't lose confidence. He does. I would also say
that to people who say, well, like Lemron James, look

(06:09):
at how he's played, look at how much he means
to that team, how they can't win, and thus he
performs he should be the m v P. Well, remember
the m v P of the regular season. The smart
thing about Lebron was he periodically took days off. And
the one to one thing you can deduce from his
poor performances that he knows his own body. He knows

(06:31):
he's better when he gets rest. And if you don't
believe me, he looked like he didn't have juice last night, right,
I didn't have the juice. He didn't have the ability
to hit that turbo button and just turn it on.
And maybe that's because he's playing with just one night
off in between, and suddenly now he's a little bit
more worn down than he knows that he has to
have more rest at this stage in his career. But

(06:54):
the easy argument for why Lebron James shouldn't be the
m v P is how well he's played and he's
locked in this. The dominance of the Calves in this series,
and make no mistake about it, they were still dominating
last night before the Celtics caught a heater and the
Calves started messing around and allowed the Celtics get back
in the game. Look, I love Marcus Smart. He's an

(07:15):
lum of my school. I like his toughness. I think
eventually he'll he'll can, He'll be a very good player
in the NBA. But but he's not. Seven threes in
a game is seven out of ten? Like, dude, that's
not who Marcus Smart is. He played out of his mind.
Now he's incredibly He's an incredible competitor. And I thought
his competitive toughness and your rebco talking a little trash

(07:37):
and not being pushed around. I thought that was a
big part of the Celtics win. But make no mistake
about it, Like he in a seventy three point shooter. Ever,
not in college he struggled with the three, let alone
the pros. So the Calves are still twenty points better
than the Celtics. That hasn't changed, and that points of
anything to how many games off mentally physically the Cleveland

(07:59):
Cavaliers hook throughout the regular season. The dominance of the
Calves over the Boston Celtics also tells you how much
the Celtics overachieved. And since it's a regular season award,
though he was periodically dominant, the fact that he wasn't
able to get his team too, and he wasn't able
to dial in at the level of excellence he's had

(08:19):
until last night in the playoffs only shows you Lebron
can't be the regular season m VP. He didn't play
like that for the most part. I have no problem
with him pacing himself. But again, the award is a
regular season award. But Jordan's didn't have nights that he

(08:41):
took off. He had bad nights, bad nights, but disappearing acts.
We didn't see that. Losing his confidence, we didn't see that.
Pacing his play, we didn't see that. And so I'm
okay with admitting that Lebron James is as dominant in

(09:03):
this era as Jordan was, as Bird was, as Magic
was in their eras. But make no mistake about it,
when you want to say better or worse, Like, look,
there's no argument I can make because it's a completely
different style of basketball. But he he's different now, he's different.
He's very, very different. Here's Lebron on not having it well.

(09:29):
I feel some adversity is all part of postseason. I
feel like you have to have some type of adversity
in order to be successful. And uh so I'm glad it. Mean,
if it's gonna happen, let's let it happen. Now, let
us let's regroup, you know, Uh, let us regroup and
all the narrative and everything that was going on. Let's regroup,

(09:50):
and let's get back to uh playing desperate basketball, which
they did tonight, you know, and um, you know, so
we gotta we gotta be a lot better for I
completely agree with that. Like, you know that that looked
like an NBA regular season game, right, how many NBA
regular season games have you seen? Where's the twenty point
deficit and you're like, it'll be tied in the fourth quarter.

(10:13):
It looked like they were playing in Milwaukee tonight and
in Minnesota tomorrow night. It did look like Cleveland kind
of shut it down and started going ice so ball
and going one on one. Have you heard this? This
is kind of interesting. This was Lebron James asked a
question by local radio host Kenny Rhoda. He said, this
was the back and forth for you. You said, you know,

(10:34):
it's just your game. I couldn't get into a rhythm tonight.
Is that what it was? Based on their defense or
just not not feeling it or what? Oh? No, I
was just pretty poor man. We want to say, it
seems like you only answer. You only ask questions when
we lose. It's a weird thing with you, Kenny, always
come around we lose, I swear, yeah, okay, yeah, I

(10:59):
mean the braun trying to create an imaginary enemy that's
not there. Sorry, we couldn't ask you questions about Kendrick Lamar.
I mean, I thought it was a very fair question,
and he allowed Lebron to elaborate on what led to
him not playing well. Did they change their defense, which
they did with exception of when they left double teamed

(11:19):
him and left JR. Smith openly, which made absolutely no
sense to anybody. But look, I'm not selling all of
my Warriors and my my Calves stock not fully investing
in the Warriors. They've had times in which they haven't
been great against inferior competition in San Antonio. But if
we're going to make the Lebron Jordan's conversation a real one,

(11:42):
let's make it a real one. And we may not have.
We didn't see the defensive versatility or maybe even offensive
versatility that Lebron James presents from Michael Jordan, but we
also never saw the type of disappearing act we saw
last night. It's just one game. All they have to
do is win a couple more and they'll get to
the NBA Finals and have beyond that collision course and

(12:04):
we'll forget about this game, as will judge everything about
Lebron James based upon the four to seven games against
the Warriors. But to me, last night proved at Lebron.
This weekend is proved to Lebron should not be the
m v P that they didn't play at the level
of intensity they have in the playoffs. Lebron James is
different than anything we've ever seen. And we talked last

(12:30):
week about the Celtics. It's not a foregone conclusion. You
have to resign Isaiah Thomas even though he's your leading
score and he's been your best player all year long. Alright,
more of that to come. Take a couple of your
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Radio live from Las Vegas. Man, we are at a
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And if you're if you're in Las Vegas, and then
I took a picture of the golf course, You're like,
that's not in Las Vegas. I mean it's it's the craziest.

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Like there's undulation in the green, there's hills, there's evergreens.
I mean, it's like it's one of those things where
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join us later on in the hour. He's at the
like furthest possible hole from where we are. He's like, oh, yeah,
I gotta I gotta get over there, so we'll grab
him in a moment. I I want to grab this
story for you because I thought it was really interesting. Obviously,
being in Las Vegas, I have long been a big
proponent of the Raiders to Vegas, and now that obviously
is gonna become a reality sometime in the next three years,

(16:33):
and as they start to deal with kind of the
unintended consequences of putting a legit professional sports franchise in
the desert where gambling is legal, there's some like oh,
I forgot we had to do that. We'll get to
that in a second. Uh. My. My logic behind being
a proponent is not just because well, who would want
to go to Vegas to go see a football game?
And just everything works, Everything works about it, right, Like

(16:55):
you have a city full of people that there are
some second and third generation people who grew up in
Vegas and their parents grew up in Vegas. But there's
also a ton of transplants. So you know, the key
is your your team comes to town, you go see them.
It's always been a big NFL town, not just because
of the betting, just again, transplants, and you can go
see a game and it just kind of works for you.

(17:15):
Then you have the fact there's only twelve home dates.
The one that I don't think will work is the
hockey and and people think, well, it's it's hot outside,
so it's cold inside the arena, like you can get
out of the heat, Like, okay, there's air conditioning everywhere
in Las Vegas. Secondly, in the winter, it's actually not
that hot. So I just and and it's not like
kids grew up playing hockey here dreaming of going to

(17:38):
see a professionals in Minnesota, like you could put a
team in North Dakota. You can put a team in
Connecticut where you don't have a huge fan base and
you draw really well because there's a big hockey community.
There's not here. Is it could be sports community and
had it been the only professional sport to come to town, maybe,
but forty one home dates plus preseason and postseason, that's

(17:59):
a lot of days. Is that's a lot of days
developing arena as opposed to twelve games, two of which
are preseason to fill up a stadium for a team
that it's it's naturally this town has Raider fans because
their time in l A. And so many people moved
out of l A. As the housing prices increased and
the job opportunities increased here because of Oakland. Same thing.

(18:21):
So you have transplant Raider fans, you have just people
who have been Raider fans anyway. And the fact that
Raider fans you catch your Southwest flight or I'm flying
to l A tomorrow, my flight was fifty eight dollars, Like,
come on, man, fifty eight dollars and you don't have
to that's the same as we're less than parking at
the Oakland call team or parking in l A. You
fly in, you catch an uber to the hotel, you go,

(18:42):
have a great time. You go hang out by the pool,
you get up, you you know, do the pregame in
a hotel. You go out to the stadium, you see
the game, you hop on a flight and you fly home.
Like this is a no brainer. It'll work. The hockey.
I don't think it's gonna work. I just I don't
see it. I could be I could be dead wrong
on that one. I just that's forty one night, just
too many nights. Twelve is perfect. And the NFL wins

(19:04):
because they get a stadium in the desert which can
potentially host the Super Bowl. And you'll have you know,
the big thing is, well, you gotta be able to
have the conventions, to have the hotel rooms like Hello Vegas.
And you have to have a destination where you already
go to New Orleans. Right in New Orleans, I mean
the one in Arizona. While it's a beautiful stadium and
Phoenix is always warm. The stadiums near nothing. The stadium

(19:26):
will be near all the stuff. So with the stadium
being built in l A, you'll probably l A will
get on the rotation. San Diego obviously punting on that.
Now you take San Diego off the list, What a
disaster that is for that city. They would have gotten
Final four's and the Super Bowl and Big Bowl games.
Now Las Vegas puts themselves in the mix for a
college football playoff bowl game for anything. It's a dome stadium,

(19:48):
you could get a Final four if the n C
will ever get over themselves. But it appears that the
NFL has is at least trying to get over themselves
a little bit. The state of Nevada plans to allow
mobile sports gambling at the Raiders New Stadium in Las Vegas,
barring an unforeseen change in the future. David Purdham reported
that state gaming sites, gaming officials, and the stadium authority

(20:11):
planned to allow fans to use mobile apps and a
place bets inside the stadium. The stadium least prohibits any
gaming or gambling UM, the maintaining or operating of the
gaming establishment, and or sports wagering by wagering on racing
or other non sports events UM. The NFL has not

(20:32):
approached me on any policy decisions. That's Nevada Gaming Commissioner
Chairman Tony Alamo. He told ESPN the Nevada Gaming Commission
is the policymaker the state of Nevada and gaming, and
they have not approached us in any way, shape or form.
So at this point the NFL is like, hey, look,
it's out of our purview. We're not going to get involved.
I'm sure there will be conversations before the Raiders moved

(20:55):
to Vegas. My thing is this the mobile gambling. That's
the that to me is the future. That's how you
get people in the stadium is the fact that they
can wager on anything. Because I asked myself this all
the time, why would I go to these games when
I can't watch the other games? You gotta give me
a reason to be in the stadium. I kind of

(21:16):
think Baseball should take a take a look at at
this as a way to get the single mail to
a baseball game, Like why would you? I mean, if
you want to go slug beers and watch a game,
you go do so with Buffalo wild Wings. Right. I
like going to baseball games with my kids because it
is probably the most uh family friendly environment there is.

(21:38):
But I'm talking about the thirty year old, thirty five
year old mail outside of going to the Cubs game
and sitting in the outfield where you can pick up
on all the women to go to the games, Like
outside of that, why would you go? If I can
go and I can bet all right, our pool holes
is coming up, or Mike Trout's coming up, or um
Bryce Harper is coming up. I can bet if he's
gonna strike out, if I can bet situational betting, like

(22:02):
I mean, it's kind of all that fantasy sports is.
And so all Nevada is saying is, hey, look, you
can do the mobile gambling anyway in the state, Like
we're not gonna limit you when you go to a stadium.
Why would we do that? Why we do that? Music?
Go ahead? Well, the thing that I find interesting about
this whole mobile gambling thing is the fact that there

(22:22):
it's already out there. I mean, like Bovada can't technically
people already do this in NFL stadiums like here here
in l A for example, if you go to a
RAMS game, can you not already do it? I believe
you can. You can offshore sites now you can't. The
Vegas gambling gaming sites only opera. You only work in
your cell phone within the state of Vegas, within the

(22:43):
state of Nevada. Excuse me, within the state of Nevada,
but yes, if you have yes, it's that's where it's
kind of red. Like Vegas is like, Hey, you can
do this on an overseas site anywhere else in the NFL.
Why are we going to limit that and not allow
you to do it here and keep your money or
in Nevada or keep it here in Las Vegas and
not have you do that. I would agree with you.

(23:04):
Mark tweets the show at os U. Mark. My biggest
concern with the NFL team in Vegas is players getting
into trouble in Las Vegas. Well, I hate to be
that guy, but you can kind of get into trouble anywhere, dude,
right like name me. I mean, how many, like do
you think of Cincinnati is a big party town? How

(23:25):
many Cincinnati Bengals historically have gotten in trouble until maybe
recently only pack Man Jones recently tell me the NFL
town you can't. You can get in plenty of trouble
in New York. There's two teams in New York getting
plenty of trouble. In Chicago, you can get in trouble
in New Orleans. There is plenty of There's all the
stories of New Orleans waking up in an ice path, right,
and you're missing your kidneys in New Orleans hadn't happened

(23:47):
to an NFL player, So, uh, can you get in trouble? Yeah? Yeah?
I also remember, um, you're not gonna be playing in
the NFL for long if the the things you're doing,
and if you're a visiting team, what better place to come?
You know your family will have a place to stay,

(24:10):
You get to go to a great restaurant the night
before the game, you go play, and then you fly home.
There's NonStop flights everywhere. Like I kind of think this
is one of those things that we we so badly overthink.
Brad Barnett tweets the show swordfish. Why am I not
surprised at gottlip show? Exactly? What is that supposed to mean? Music?

(24:30):
Have you ever had swordfish and a girl? I had
a swordfish on Saturday night? Not even kidding, that's ironic timing.
Did you cook it to somebody else? Cook it all right?
Somebody else? I picked it up from a like a restaurant,
picked it up from a restaurant, pre cooked you went
like Whole Foods and they like pre cook So that
that's no. That's this place called Blue Saltfish Grill. You
can do. You can order it there or you can

(24:51):
order it to go. So I ordered it to go,
a little swordfish to go. You gotta come over with
my new big green egg. I'm master of the grill
grilled swordfish. I have a I have my lemon olive oil,
salt pepper marinade just so soaking there for like an afternoon.
Like swordfish is kind of like a spongy fish, you know,
I I deeply seear it, but it is still rare,

(25:14):
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(25:36):
I don't want to call BS, but I kind of
want to call BS. Uh. Dan Buyer is about to
join us, UH and Uh I want to find out
about his night watching you two, which I have had
reviews from people who are sitting where he was sitting,
and they were like it was a pretty phenomenal show.
I still wouldn't have gone, but I told you I'm
a seat stop. I'm okay, Like I have I have
flaws as a human being. If that's my biggest flaw,
so be it. Um. I kind of want to call

(25:58):
big bs Jajpashulia being concerned for his kids safety because
Greg Povitch said he stuck out his leg underneath Kevin
Durants um KWHI Leonard's foot, Like I kind of you know,
it's like Christine Leahy got got threats on Twitter last
week because of her back and forth with LaVar Ball,

(26:20):
and I'm like, you know, maybe I have to be
that guy. No one is doing any harm to Christine Leahy, right,
Like that's not happening, no one in their right mind.
And you're like, well people aren't in the right mind.
Like a Twitter threat is not like a specific that
doesn't feel like a legitimate threat. Same thing with with Pashulia,
Like nobody's really going like I'm gonna go rough somebody's

(26:41):
kid up because Kawhi Leonard turned his ankle, Like it's
that's that's that's taking things a little too literally. I'm
not the only one who thinks this way, am I Guys?
I just I don't see that happening. Uh uh, all right?
Do the Warriors close it out tonight? That part of

(27:02):
what we'll discover. The answers are in my sack. Let's
reach into godly sack. We bring in Dan Buyer. How
was the show last night? It was It was a
good show. My my wife said that there were some
audio issues that you wish were uh were resolved, that
things could have been a little bit better. But again,

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(27:44):
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bit lost in the middle of the show. Who doesn't
know who doesn't know the Joshua Tree I'm not a
big I mean I didn't I didn't know the the
whole album. I know a lot of their hits. But
I think that there was a decent amount of people
there last night that we're in the same boat that

(28:06):
I was in and maybe not knowing the middle of
the show. Where as Bonno called it last night side
B or side two on the cassette tapes that maybe
people he played B sides. No, they know it's just
the second side of the album, you know, like on
tapes or you'd have side But there are also B
sides on singles of you know where you would have

(28:26):
a single and then on the flip side of the
record would also be the B side as well. But yeah,
there are a lot of some unknown song um and
and your seats. Was it was it worth it to
slep all the way in there, get their alya stand there?
Now there's some songs you don't even remember. You're like,
it was worth it for Lisa to enjoy the show? Yes,
But I'll say this much for what we paid and
to see what other people probably played for their seats,

(28:48):
we got the much better value because people were still
probably sixty or seventy yards away from Bonno, paying you know,
a couple of hundred dollars more per ticket than we did.
They still haven't found what they're looking. That's what's in
my sect. Well, there was gonna be a Zaza Petulia question,
but you you kind of addressed it yourself. Probably zero
percent chance that Popovich should be to blame for Peculia's

(29:10):
kids needing that security. So let's start here. I mean, like, honestly,
do we really think somebody was gonna do harm to
Zaza Peculia's kids, Because I don't write yeah, And I
don't think the part of Popovich adding fuel to the
fire was the reason for it. I think fans would
have were mad anyway after the Spurs blow that twenty
three point lead. You don't need Greg Popovitch's comments afterwards
adding fuel to the fire of fans are crazy enough

(29:32):
to think that his injury was the reason that they
lost and they want to do something about it. That's
where the crazy part comes in. Papovich's comments probably weren't needed.
So that's how I look at it. But what are
the chances of the Warriors actually close out the Spurs
tonight in San Antonio? I'm gonna go in the eighty
five percent variety. Here's though Kawai Leonard's not gonna play. Um, yeah,

(29:55):
I'm gonna surpri as it wasn't a hundred percent. But
you see what the sounding snide to sell. It's at home.
You know, the old Rudy Tom Jonovan's never underestimate the
heart of a champion type deal. How about this? How
about this from the NBA vertical reports that Hawks forward
Paul Millsap will opt out of his contract to become
a free agent, but he does have an interest in
resigning with Atlanta. So what are the chances that Millsap

(30:16):
is actually back in a Hawks uniform next year? Uh?
Twenty chance? Chance? Um, here's the thing, and I I'm
please don't take this as not doing your job, uh Dan,
because you want you do your job very well. It
is a story, it is worth reporting. But for for
those of us like you who you got your one
weekend show I listen to yesterday, who we do this

(30:39):
for a living, it's a story if you don't opt out. Right, Yes,
honestly that everybody opts out because um worst case scenario,
for the most part, you're going to make the same
money you were gonna make. You know, you're just elongating
your contract. Likelihood is because the salary cap continues to increase,
you're gonna get make more money. So there are there
have been some people that have gambled on the salary

(30:59):
cap and and opted out and lost, but those are
few and far between. To me, it's a story when
you don't opt out. Paul Millsap opting out, it does
make you wonder whether or not they should have traded
him midseason as was rumored. Remember, the Atlanta Hawnks are
also gonna shu Chauncey Billips for their general manager position
upcoming this week as well. And there's also the question
and while he would likely resign with Atlanta because apparently

(31:23):
he likes being there, the question is, let's say a
contender could add Paul Millsap, you know, if they were,
if they were interested in making a push, maybe maybe
Atlanta feels that, you know, Paul Millsap and another guy
to go with him, and you know, Dennis Schroeder would
would be a core that they could try to challenge
in the East. It's uh, well, he's not maybe a
number one guy, he could be a good two or
three for a contender that wanted. He's not that dissimilar

(31:46):
from Al Horford. Yeah, he's a he's a really good
player that blends in well two stars and he's the
twenty one century big man that he's made himself. He
remember he led the n c A and rebounding three
years in a row. He's made himself into a cap
both three on shooter. Yeah, he's not somebody you're gonna
give the ball to and say go win the game,
but he can help you win a lot of games.
How about this from Major League Baseball? Remember in two

(32:07):
thousand and three that the pe D survey the names
ended up being leaked and they shouldn't have been in.
David Ortiz's name was on that list. Well, Ortiz is
still w e ei that he believes that the Yankees
were the ones to link to leak that list, telling
the radio station in Boston, quote, the only thing that
I can think of, to be honest with you, a
lot of big guys from the Yankees were being caught

(32:28):
and no one from Boston. That was just something leaked
out of New York and they had zero explanation about it.
So David Ortiz feels that his name was leaked out
by the Yankees to try to get back um at
possible names on the on the list. Here's my problem
with that. And I'm somewhere there was supposed to be
a percentage question. Yeah, one of the chances that he
believes the Yankees did leak that if somebody, somebody's out

(32:52):
to get the Red Sox, and he might be right. Uh.
They also you know, it's like Kirk Radomski, you remember
he got caught and that that was he was a
supplier to many of the He's the Yankees have gotten
run over the coals because they had cheaters like Roger Clemens,
who you know, somehow skated on some of this stuff.
But everybody knows he was a chooser. Here's the thing, though,
what I didn't hear from Big Poppy was I wasn't

(33:13):
using steroids at the time. Do you ever notice that
he's he's he's first he's come after the testing and said,
what tell me what I tested positive for? Again? Never
was there I wasn't using anything period, and then now
he's coming after the Yankees saying, hey, they just leaked
my information, didn't leak anybody else's information. And then his

(33:33):
only defenses, I didn't test positive after that point. So
essentially David Ortiz has admitted to using steroids or performance
dancing drugs. So, uh, we're the chances. Yeah, he look,
he's a blamer. There's been no level of accountability for
David Ortiz. And because he dropped an F bomb after
the horrific bombing at the Boston Marathon somehow, but he

(33:54):
became this heroic figure. He was great in the World Series,
tremendous hitter. Do I think he was dirty? Absolutely a
matter of fact, I know he was dirty. Um that
he he didn't even deny that he was dirty. He
went from being a platoon player to being the most
prolific power hitter in baseball. Makes you think is that
your know? Is that why you know? Because he became

(34:15):
a great hitter because he tested positive And he's never
denied that he tested positive. He never said no, I
didn't test positive, not once. He has not said that.
He has said, nobody told me what I tested positive for.
And now he said somebody else leaked it out, saying
the Yankees held a grudge out final one. What are
the chances John Ramos actually passes his kidney stone today?
What are those chances? Still hanging tough for our technical producer? Uh,

(34:40):
what are the chances? I would say? Uh, I would
say good, I would say, you know, um, good and
bad cold lock. I feel I feel I'm gonna go
higher percentage chance than the Warriors close it out. I'm
gonna say like a nine chance that he closes out
this kidney stone and uh and shows up to work tomorrow.

(35:06):
That was Scott leap sack. That is exactly what was
in my sack. Remember when Darrell Rebus was the shut
the best shutdown corner in the National Football League? Will
he played this year in the NFL? I'll tell you
next in the Doug Gotlip Show, Fox Sports Radio, broadcasting
live from the studios of Fox Sports Radio. Here's Doug

(35:27):
Godlieb back live in Las Vegas the side of the
tenth annual Coaches Versus Cancer Las Vegas Golf Classic. The
man who host this event and has done so since
he was the head coach at un l V is
Lon Krueger of course, former head coach at case Day Illinois, Texas,
Pan American, all the Minix streight at the Atlanta Hawks, Oklahoma.
Hol am I forgetting forgetting somewhere and um, so ten

(35:52):
years you've been doing this, this thing has grown by
leaps and bounds. Huge event last night. What was the impetus?
What what made you start this gulf of Uh? Well,
we were in Las Vegas. Uh. You know a place
everyone wants to go to. Uh. You've got the great
golf courses, uh and the opportunity to join many others
in the country that do things in the honor of

(36:12):
of coaches versus cancer. And it's a n S disease.
Everyone's been touched by it. And um in Vegas place
coaches wanted to come to and uh MG when they
came on board, you know, four or five years ago,
they're the ones that really got it going because they
cut in their overhead. They give us all the rooms.
Uh probably a half a half million dollar bill if
we had to pay it, but said we can contribute
to coaches versus cancer. It's pretty awesome. JT. The brick

(36:34):
will be at Top Golf tonight where there's another event tonight.
It's gonna be a really fun you'll be able to
hear that on Fox Sports Radio. You coached in the
NBA when Michael Jordan was in the NBA. We're watching
now Lebron James um look basket. I tried to explain
to people that basketball is so different. You've been a
part of so many different eras in basketball. How would
you describe the difference in eras than to now? Well,

(36:56):
right now, it's a little bit a unique time because
it appears you've got were three teams that have separated
themselves from everyone else in the league. And uh, you know,
that's not only I think something that the NBA is
looking for. They like the parody. They like the excitement
of a seven game playoff series, and they haven't had
many of those, uh this year. So I think you've got,
you know, a lot of times, you've got two young
players coming in the league that aren't quite ready to

(37:18):
contribute at a playoff level, and I think the teams
get stuck in that cycle a little bit. What about
the way it's officiated where now so much as perimeter
base because you can't touch anybody in the perimeter, you know,
and it's so physical in the low post, as opposed
to when you were in the NBA used to throw
the ball inside big guy scores or your double team
and you kick it out. It's just it feels like
such a different game. It is. I thought a few

(37:40):
years ago the NBA really really had it uh figured
out when they you know, it was really free flowing,
you know, when they went in the early two thousands
to no contact and no touch and in the offensive
guys really could take advantage of their skills. Now when
you get the playoffs, I mean, it's it's a physical,
tough I mean, it's it's so hard to finish any
play in the paint. You know, it's at the low

(38:00):
percentage played to throw it to the block and try
to score unless you're Cream or someone that's really skilled
at the very highest level of the percentage play. Now
to shoot the three, and that's what's happening. And you,
of course changed your offensive philosophy kind of to match that. Yet,
Buddy hell who uh played two different teams in the NBA,
and next year your young team you had in Trey Young,
a prolific three point shooter. It feels like that you've

(38:22):
kind of reacted to that trend in the NBA and
put that into play with how you coach. Is that fair?
I think most coaches have because again, you look at
the low low post back to the bucket type scores
in college, there aren't many. They just aren't many. And
it's a hard play to finish given all the contact
and you know, keep your hands up and walk in
and you know, making a low percentage shots. So it's
just not a percentage play to throw it to the

(38:43):
post right now. And I'm not sure that's great for
the game, but that's where we're at. Um Okay, I
asked you, I want to ask you really quickly about
that team you had into McDonald's All American. You bring
back essentially mostly your whole team from last year from
a game from playing for a national championship to ninth
in the Big in the ten team Big twelve, Like,
how quick can you get back up to the top
of the league. Well, we think we can get back
into the mix right away. You know, the league is

(39:04):
going to be great again. It's it's been good for
a long time. But I think with the young guys returning,
they were was kind of thrown into some roles. They
weren't quite ready for a year ago, but maybe because
of the experience they got more ready this time around.
But the class coming in, uh, you know, with the
trade of the point guard and uh and other good
young players, we feel like we get right back in
the mix. Do you like you mentioned you don't necessarily

(39:26):
love where basketball is, but that's where it is. What
about college basketball? Do you like where college basketball is? Well? March.
You know, when you get to March, Uh, you can't
get many better events than that. I mean, it's it's great.
I think there's concerned about the game's leading up, you know,
through December, you know, January. You know, there's little lots
of interest there that we'd like to see recaptured a

(39:48):
little bit. I think I think teams are playing a
better non conference schedule now in early season events in
November and December than they were maybe five, five, ten
years ago. So so that part is good. And I
think the interesce levels coming back. Well, we'll get a
chance to catch up with you again at Top Golf tonight.
Can't thank you enough for having us out here. And
of course American Cancer Side and their partnership with coach
and Versus Cancer have raised over a hundred ten million

(40:09):
dollars to support the society's mission. Coach great to catch
up with you. Thanks, Thank you. Guess the one and
only Lan Krueger, who of course is the uh who
of course is the host this week as he always is.
Get back into lebron and what yesterday meant next on
The Doug Gotlip Show, Fox Sports Radio on one Up.
Doug Gottlieb Show Live from Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio,

(40:34):
coming to you on the I Heart app on Sirius
XM channel eighty three. That's what I was listening to
Clay Travis very early this morning when I left my
family's abode, got on a plane, and it was interesting because, um,
here's what happened. And this does relate to Calvin Johnson
quite easily. All Right, So Calvin Johnson is having to

(40:56):
he's he's upset among other things, because he has to
he had to pay part of his signing bonus. And
there are something like, well, look, the Detroit Lions making
plenty of money. He's there. Uh, he's their second biggest
kind of signature player in the history of their franchise.
He's the guy who you would buy a jersey for
in Honolulu blue. I know, why would you make him

(41:20):
repay it? Three dollars is what he has to pay back.
And the reason is because that's the way the contract
is written, right, Like you shouldn't get paid a signing
bonus for a year in which you're not actually playing football.
Like I don't actually think that's an odd request to you.
You know, it's not not in our request. I mean

(41:43):
my I give you like two personal examples. One is
my contract with my previous employer went all the way
through until I think August thirty one, so I you know,
I didn't have to repay anything, but technically I was
under cont tracked um and I got out of that

(42:05):
contract early. But I like, hey, look, you owe me
that money, Like we don't know you anything because you're
not actually working during the time of that contract. And
had I received that money upfront, I would owe that
money back. I just like, this is kind of basic
contracts stuff where it's like when you sign up for
release and I was looking at least in a car
last week, and my problem is I drive too many miles, right,

(42:26):
so it's like, oh, you know two a month, like
ten ten thousand miles, Like, dude, I throw ten thousand
miles on a car at no time, Like it's got
to be. I'm between fifteen and twenty a year, how
much I drive, And so you have to read the
fine print as to all right, like, look, here's what's
gonna cost a month, But here's what's gonna cost per
mile that I go over usually a mile, which sounds

(42:48):
sounds like a small amount until you actually go over
like a couple of thousand miles, You're like, wow, that's
a lot of money. Um. And then of course there's
a residual amount, which is how much you would owe
if you want to buy the car straight up after
the lease is done, which is, by the way, usually
more than you would pay for the car if you
brought up straight up right away. Anyway, here here's the

(43:09):
kind of biggest, kind of parallel to it. Okay, I
was set. Ryan Music was probably freaking out over it.
I had an eight twenty flight And for people who
don't know, we broadcast on Fox Sports Radio from Los Angeles,
and my family is still we still live in uh
southern Connecticut, and so every week most every weekend, with

(43:31):
exception one or two I'm flying red Eye Friday night
back last flight out Sunday night. So I've done this
route kind of before. And so because I was coming
to Las Vegas for this great tenth annual Coaches Versus
Cancer Las Vegas Golf Classic, where there's two forty golfers participating.
Their brace one million dollars net. Just going back to

(43:51):
UH this year, they've already raised a million dollars raised.
In ten years, they've raised three point six million dollars
in support of American Cancer Society and their fight against cancer.
So I was like, look, my son's got his first
travel baseball tournament of the year, and I want to
see that. I want to get a chance to go home.
I have dinner with them, then get on a flight.
What's the last possible flight to Las Vegas out of

(44:14):
Newark and New Work is the furthest of the airports
from my home, no traffic, It takes an hour with
traffic hour and a half or so. Maybe our forty
five took two hours last night, and I roll in
about fifteen minutes before my flight now fifteen minutes for
if you any you fly normally, if you're not checking bags,

(44:35):
fifty minutes you're fine, right, nothing to concern yourself over. Um.
So I get to the I get to check in.
I couldn't use you ever have one of his flights
where you're trying to mobile check in and it wouldn't
check in on my phone. So I went to the
first kiosk and just swipe my car and start to
check in, and says, you have to go see somebody.

(44:56):
You know you have to, Okay, So if I go
and see the lady, and she was doing something and else,
and you know, they're all filibustering you so that they
don't have to help you, you can figure it out
on your own. So forty five minutes for my flight,
the lady says, well, listen, this is a special economy ticket.
You can't travel on the plane without checking that back.

(45:16):
I said, ma'am, I fly every week with this exact
same bag cross country. I have never checked it once.
It fits into that little you know, a little I
don't know what is that called the measuring There's gotta
be a name for that music. Do you know what
the name is for the where you measure the carry
on bag to make sure that it can fit in
the overhead, that it's just the right perfect size. I think,

(45:36):
I think that's it. The thing that you used to
check to make sure the bag fits in the overhead
compartment measuring device. What would the acronym acronym for that be.
I don't really know anyway. So I put it in
there and she's like, no, this is a special economy
ticket where you'll have to pay the check bags. Like fine,
check the back. It's like, no, it's too late. Wait
wait to say, well, hold on it. It's like forty

(45:58):
five minutes, Like no, now it's forty minutes for you're
gonna fly. It's like whatever, it's more than thirty, Like
I have priority boarding, Like I can get on now.
I'm sorry, you gotta find my supervisor, you know. Ten
minutes later they find supervisor. They just kind of they
four cornered me. They ran out the clock on me,
and they basically said, whatever this ticket was that I
purchased was like a Spirit Airlines type of ticket. You guys,

(46:21):
you ever phone to any of you guys ever Flowing
Spirit Airlines as buyer ever flowing spiritarized music airflown Spirit
Spirit Spirit. Yes, okay, so so you can attest to
this buyer, right, So Spirit Airlines is literally a pay
as you go thing. It's one of those things where
it's it's a lot. It's honestly, it's like people who
are like, well, I'm I'm I'm cord cutting to save
money on cable, Like okay, dude, you know you gotta

(46:43):
buy things all a cart, like they end up costing
you more than every single thing. Yes, it's like when
you go to Spirit Airlines music every if you bring
any bag on board, you have to pay for it.
So you'll buy a tickety be like, oh, two hundred
bucks to go to West Palm, Like this is great,
three hundred bucks go to Vegas. That's great. Like, okay,
you gotta check a back, like check it back. It's one.
But I'm talking about carrying on a bag. You want

(47:05):
to get a drink, you pay for that. You wanna
get something to eat, you gotta pay for that. You
want a seatbelt, you gotta pay for that. You want
far off, you go off. Okay, I'm literally that's how
that's how they roll. Like remember there's a there's a
video of a fight and the Spirit Airlines thing because
they're nickel and diamond pilots and the pilots are purposely
showing up late, so that and everybody's mad, Like it's

(47:26):
the opposite the intended. Everybodys supposed to be happy and
have great spirit because it's way cheaper, but then you
end up getting nickel and dime for everything and it
costs more, and then everybody's mad at the end of
the day. Way actually, by the way, Duck I actually
thought it was a playoff of Spirit of seventy six
because it costs you seventy six more dollars once you
get through all the processes of your launch, your chair,
your seatbelt isisl or window, yeah, all of that that

(47:48):
it's a it's a you gotta go through like six
or seven stages before you actually get the final cost
of the flight. So so, and what Dan is saying
is correct. So anyway, the point was apparently United Airlines,
in all of their genius, especially because they've had such
great pr recently, um, they are offering up some new

(48:08):
ticket that in the fine print says, like you were
you have to pay to carry on a personal item.
And so, in addition to the fact that the woman
at the front desk was rude and some guy named
John lawal who helped me, was supposed to be a supervisor,
was incredibly route, like I'm not a naturally rude person,
like I understand like if you talk to somebody like humanan,
they'll try and work it out for you. They have

(48:30):
made no effort at all to explain other than like, hey,
you're the dummy. You didn't read the fine print. And
I was like, look, let me just explain something to you.
I come from a generation of people that don't read
the fine print. Okay, because anybody ever read when you
sign up for iTunes and every time you get you
get a new iTunes, you gotta does anybody read the
fine print? Like no, zero, no, I, No you don't. Um.

(48:50):
But one of the reasons was like I think if
United is like a legitimate airlines, like their fine print
is no different than American or Delta or whatever, all
the all the major airline fine print. So UM, I
of course was very upset. I said some things I
probably shouldn't, but that was after twenty or thirty minutes

(49:11):
of getting four cornered into Hey there's no more time
and oh yeah, by the way, there's no more flights
out West. I was like, hey, send me to l
A and I'll catch the first flight. I just want
to make sure that I was here for this event.
I end up booking a different flight on a different
airline JE Blue and twenty Time. All good, But the
thing is here, here's the here's the correlation in that
and Calvin Johnson, like, I don't think you step into

(49:34):
signing an agreement with an airline like you just I
just go and use all the Expedia and Travelocity in
kayak whenever and like whatever times makes sense, and have
the fewest stops or no stops and cost the smallest
amount of money, even when I'm booking it for my company.
Like That's what I do, right, That's just kind of normal.

(49:54):
Like I even think for the most part, when with
even with United, when they took the guy off the
lane and he went crazy, whatever, I still think that
people will bounce back from that and they'd still fly United.
But this idea that I would step into fly like
when I fly with spirit, like I know something's up,
Like all you gotta do is fly with spirit once
you're like, dude, I'm never doing that again unless I

(50:15):
literally have nothing to carry on, right, Like I'm gonna
strap a I'm gonna strap my iPad to my I'm
gonna taping around my body so I don't have to
pay for it. Um. Outside of that, I think of
every other airline having about the same policy. The difference is,
Calvin Johnson, when you sign a signing bonus and it's
spread out over time so that it becomes like a
guaranteed part of your contract. You know that going in.

(50:37):
That's where I correlate the difference. Uh. Calvin, of course
said I I don't want to talk about the Lions
too much because of the way our relationship ended. If
they see me around here, we'll see. But hey, I
don't know. I don't feel any kind of way. I
just feel like I was treated the way I I
But I didn't feel the way I was treated the

(50:58):
way I should have been treated on the way out,
that's all I mean. It's all good. I'm not tripping.
I don't feel any kind of wages. Hey, that's what
they did. Hey, it is what it is. Like. I
kind of think Calvin Johnson looks terrible in this. Don't
get me wrong. I think Twitter and young people be
like that. He should keep his money, Like, dude, you

(51:18):
quit in the middle of your contract when you still
had gas in the tank, and you're allowed to like,
he made a ton of money, he's a hell of
a player. He's allowed to He'll go into the Pro
Football Hall of Fame. He is allowed to quit. But
the idea like, oh, that's okay, we know you owe
us three dollars, but we'll just we love you, we
like you so much. Because what sort of presston does

(51:40):
that set for any player? Right then? That makes sense,
like why would you ever say, why would you ever
agree to that if you're an NFL team, because well, hey,
it's good for Calvin Johnson, it's not good for me.
They made Barry Sanders pay back his his signing bonus,
and it's one of those deals where it's like Calvin
Johnson's really mad for the way it ended, Like you quit.

(52:04):
I mean you quit, and you told everybody you were
gonna quit long before you actually did quit. So maybe
I'm the only guy. But I don't I don't feel
I don't feel terrible. I don't don't feel terrible for
Calvin Johnson. I think he's he's mad that. I mean, like, look,

(52:25):
they're still gonna welcome you back. They're gonna retire your number,
put you in the ring of honor. They'll find you
some pr job like just this is one of those
grand to pay back. Sounds like a huge sum of money,
but if you just kind of keep your mouth shut,
you're gonna get paid as some sort of liaison for
the Lions for years and years to come if you
choose to do so. We got people everywhere. Take you

(52:48):
to Cleveland, find out what was up with Lebron last night?
Just low energy, didn't play well, didn't shoot well. Uh,
seemed to kind of stay away from the basketball. Take
it to Boston where there's some new life from the Celtics.
We'll take it to the Bay Area. Is this the
time that we we see a four oh close out?
Are they gonna they close out the Spurs tonight and

(53:09):
get ready for a third straight NBA Finals appearance. We've
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Chris Fedor is his Twitter handle. What was up with
Lebron last night? Yeah, I think that's a great question.
Doug Tyler was trying to figure it out. J R.
Smith was trying to figure it out today and talking
about it. Um. Their explanation was that he was human.
The other explanation that ty gave was that, um, with

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the way that Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love had a
going in the first half, Lebron was deferring so much
in the first staff, and then when he tried to
turn it on, he had already been so out of
the game plan, out of the offensive flow, that he
couldn't get back into it. So it was a startling
performance from Lebron and to meet Doug, it was the
first time that I left a game that Lebron played

(56:53):
thinking what the heck had Jeff happened since two thousand
and eleven in the NBA Finals. But the thing that
we know about, I mean, the thing that we know
about Lebron is that he bounces back after these kinds
of performances. You know what's interesting about that, Chris is
and you can tell me if I'm wrong, there is
a there's a difference between him and the Jordan's, the
Kobe's maybe in the Magics and the Birds, is that

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he will defer, and when he doesn't have it, he'll
continue to defer, Whereas, for better or for worse, those
guys would keep kind of forcing it when they wouldn't
have it. It's it's interesting that he didn't have it
last night, But isn't that that kind of differentiation between
him and the Jordan's and the Kobes of the world. Yeah,
And I think the thing that Lebron has to understand

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at times, Doug is that even if he doesn't have
it going offensively, he can still make a difference offensively,
and I thought he did that at the end of
the game situation. He drew a double team in the post,
he kicked it out to j R. Smith. Jr. Smith
hit then a game time shot. So somehow Lebron has
to continue to remind himself even if he doesn't have
it going with his shot, he can still be engaged

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in other areas offensively and defensively. And it seemed like
he had gotten past all of this kind of stuff.
We hadn't seen a game like this because he had
started to do things so that he wouldn't have things
like this happened like they did in the NBA Finals
in two thousand eleven. He started reading books more. He
started um staying away from social media throughout the postseason.

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He stopped watching TV throughout the postseason. He started doing
yoga and all of those kinds of things so that
in pressure moments he didn't have what happened in two
thousand eleven in the NBA Finals. Last night, it happened
again for him and it's something that UM even though
the Calves downplayed it. J R. Smith said, we need

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Lebron to be more aggressive for us, even if his
shots not falling because he demands so much attention. Be aggressive.
Aggressive here the from the high school cheerleaders. Chris fo Door,
who covers the Calves for Cleveland dot Com. That means
they're going going back to Boston for Game five at
first game four tomorrow night in Cleveland. Chris, thanks so
much for your honesty and joining us here on the

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Doug Gottlieb Show. You got a duck all, we got
a guy in Boston. That guy in Boston. Dan Shaughnessy,
longtime and talented sports columnists for the Boston Globe. Uh. Dan.
As much as so much of the story is about
about Lebron and what went wrong or what simply didn't happen,
some of it it has to be about the Celtics and

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some of the young players like Marcus Smart playing so
well without Isaiah Thomas after being down twenty one point, Um,
what did you see in terms of growth from the
from the youngsters on the Celtics that was missing previously? Well,
it tells you they're really well coached. And they didn't quit.
I mean, we certainly quit. I was ready to say, okay,
three and now four and now get this thing over with.

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Would have been better off loose in Washington. You know,
it was just so ugly in games one and two,
and then you're down twenty one the third quarter of
Game three. So yeah, they they really showed something there.
They showed they got a good chip in the shoulder.
They believe in themselves. They're young, They're are doing what
the coach says. It's the mentality that got him fifty
three wins during the regular season. But yeah, I'm obviously

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smart had the game of his life as a professional.
So that it starts and ends there. They got big
jumps from a Limic and Drevko off the bench. Nobody
expected that, you know, um, I was trying to tweet
out that. One of the things that until Charles Barkley
started talking about was missing was just how good a
play that was that Brad Stevens ran. I mean, he's
known for inbounds plays, but that was they threw it

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in bounds, They waited to just the right moment and
the play they ran. It's one thing to make a shot,
like anybody the NBA can jump up and make a shot,
but too for a coach to create a wide open
shot out of a time out. Uh, that continues to
kind of add to the lure of Brad Stevens. Was
there any wavering concern from from Celtics fans or even

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you he covered the team for years, considering how badly
they were beaten in the first two games before last night,
not a lot towards Stevens. I think that, you know,
there's sort of an assumption that they just don't have
the horses to compete in this thing. I still believe that,
which makes what they did last night all the more impressive.
But none of us come down on the coach. I mean,
a couple of times they said that, well, let these

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runs go too long, didn't call time out, et cetera.
Some of the early second quarter rotations a little bit suspect,
but that's because they don't have the players. But I thought,
you know, last night, it was nice for the players
themselves to make a big deal out of the place
that he's calling in the in the huddle during the
time outs. And and then of course, when you know,
when the network goes and designs, you know, shows the

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plays and isolates people, you really get a sense of
of what what good basketball genius that is. Any thought
that with Isaiah Thomas up at the end of next
season that you you sell high, you know, while his
stock is at the all time high, and you play
for youth and he played for a better possible ending
in a couple of years when these guys be sure.

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It's a really interesting question around here, Doug, because you
know that's kicked around all the time. A game like
yesterday makes you say, yeah, yeah, do that, and and
I'm in that corner. I don't think they will win
a championship in Isaiah Thomas's lifetime. I don't think you
can build around a five nine point guard. I just
think it's limited. So I am in the cell high
crowd at this point. It's it's a mistake to read

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too much into well, they won without him, they don't
need it, etcetera. And he is a defensive liability and
there's something to that mechanically. But this was sort of
an emotional game that I think carried him. But overall, yeah,
I'm I'm for I'm for move from him. I would
do it. Dan Chaunessy sports columnists and a good one
at the Boston Globe Palm on Twitter at Dan Underscore Shaughnessy.

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Dan looks like You've got at least two more games
of the Celtics this year to cover. Thanks for being
our guest. Thanks Doug, thinking I got a guy, we
got a guy in in the Bay Area. Marcus Thompson,
who has literally written the book on the rise of
Steph Curry, should pick that up. Columnist for the Mercury
News who tries to get in a plug in every
time he has steff a question. That's great work out
of you, Marcus at Thompson scribe as his Twitter handle. UM.

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I think a solid over all performance in Game three,
but the thought is that without Kawhi Leonard, why wasn't
there a forty point win. Do you sense that they
stick the steak in the heart of the Spurs tonight?
I do, I think so. I think they messed around enough.
You know, the Warriors get that one game a series
where they just kind of messed around and kick the

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ball around. But I think tonight they know that this
is a team you kind of gotta put away, and
and they're so banged up it's gonna be hard for
San Antonio even prevent them. For me a little way,
So tonight tonight I think I think it's over. Yeah,
and I kind of get the sense that there's a
little bit on this team of kind of reacting to

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reacting to what happened with the Calves, Like the Calves
couldn't put away the Celtics, so they know that they
see that they kind of want to one up the
Calves in any any sense of that that's what they're
gonna do. It's like the unspoken thing, right, like I
thought they refused to lose because they don't want to
be the first one to lose. Right now, to the
cat lost, they're probably be like, well, let's let's really

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go undefeated into the finals just to just to show
them up. None of them will say it, but it's there.
You know, they're watching everything that happened, just because this
is probably about to be the highest traded finals of
all time starting June. First, Who's going to coach him
in the finals? Mike Brown? First off, it's just be HONESTO,

(01:04:21):
like switch coaches right at that point, Like he got
them this far, you might as well keep riding it.
But I just don't think Steve is ready and not
like ready to the point where you know he probably
could manage it, but that's not the standard they want
him to be healed and then he'll coach again. And
I don't see how that's gonna happen by June one.
He's just not He's not even fully recovered yet. And

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I don't think that conversation happens until the years. Andrea
Goodalla's nee is super important for guarding Lebron James. You
know the inner workings of this team. How healthy is he? Marcus?
You with me? Marcus? All right? We we lost Marcus
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had some interesting comments on the Calves and the Warriors

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speaking of Lebron and k D and gathering up of
superstars up until last night, now that the two teams
had lost a game in the NBA playoffs. And look,

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I want to make sure I state this for you, Okay,
The Indian five hundred is this weekend right in five
and it's one of those things that I don't know
how much you followed it if you remember this is
going back I think about fifteen years ago. Uh, the
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on the Indie five hundred, every year I turned on
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It was a really it was a really really interesting race.
Um And and there is a relation between the Preakness
and these NBA playoffs I'll get to as well. But
the Preakness was an interesting race. The problem with it
is that because we don't, you know, because we don't

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follow it all year, and because we kind of we
need some sort we need a triple crown winner, like
Always Dreaming was a story because Always Dreaming had won
the Kentucky Derby and Classic Empire, who closed the second
and they were neck and neck at the first turn
and through the backstretch, like that was the story. I
know where cloud computing comes in, and I mean just

(01:07:38):
downshifted and beats Classic Empire and Always Dreaming I think
finished seventh. So it was a great race. Then is
going to be It's going to be exciting. The NHL
playoffs are exciting, Like tonight is what Game five in Nashville,
Game six right in Nashville, And if they win the

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Predators go to the Stanley Cup finals. But I can't
make America care about sports that by and large, America
doesn't care about. When I say by, you're like, well,
I care about in the Cup, but most people don't. Well,
I care about that. Now. I care about the Belmont
like well, most people don't. I care about the hockey
like most people don't. And so the NBA has has

(01:08:24):
the ability, and they're gonna have a really well watched
NBA Finals. It might be the most watched NBA finals
in years. Might not. I don't know. I would guess
it is, but because nothing else seems to matter, or
nothing else is competitive enough to get us to believe
that either the teams could falter for four games. It's

(01:08:45):
a weird year, to which seldom is a foregone conclusion
a foregone conclusion, but a foregone conclusion is just that.
Here's Adam Silver, who's the commissioner of the NBA, on
whether or not the dominance of the Warriors and the
Cavs is good for the league. I think that we

(01:09:08):
should be celebrating excellence. I mean, people are already annointing
these teams as as as dominant and and and franchise teams.
But on the other hand, I look at the Golden
State Warriors that hadn't won a championship in forty years.
The Cavaliers, of course one last year and had never
won a championship before in this league. I mean, as
you know, you look back at the historic franchise in

(01:09:29):
this league, Celtics was seventeen championships, Lakers with sixteen. I
think they have a long way to go before I
would put them in that category. Yeah, okay, I kind
of feel like he's combining two different stories, don't you Like,
Adam Silver is not wrong that people don't people forget
like the Warriors were the Clippers. The only difference is

(01:09:49):
that the Warriors want a title, you know, going back
to the seventies with Rick Berry, like that's outside of
that they were and they had one or two little
little blips, and there's Don Nelson led them and Baron
Davis led them to an upset of the one seed Mavericks,
and they had run TMC. But for the most part,
they were a disaster for forty years. And the same

(01:10:11):
can be said. The same can honestly be said for Cleveland,
Like Cleveland wasn't a disaster. But Cleveland was they're kind
of like what the Bulls are now, where like competitive team.
They had some really good players. They had Mark Price
and Brad Doherty and Larry Nance and Gerald Wilkins. They
had Craig Elo. They had really good players, but they
never had the superstar that Chicago had. They could never

(01:10:33):
get over the Chicago hump. So he's not wrong in
giving us perspective. Hey, look, these aren't two great franchises,
so we should just enjoy the fact that right now
they're in the great This is the greatest moment ever
for the Cleveland Cavaliers. This is the greatest moment ever
for the Golden State Warriors. But that's still not that
that still has nothing to do with the discussion that

(01:10:54):
we're having and the fact that he has to when
when somebody has to change the argument. Anytime somebody changes
the argument on you, that's because they don't really have
a good argument, right, You're like, well, Commissioner, what do
you think about the fact that this is really not
competitive series and nobody's really competing with these two teams
and it's the regular season doesn't matter that much and
guys are taking games off. Was like well, what you

(01:11:16):
guys don't understand is the perspective. And I'm like, no, no no, no,
that's changing the argument. This happens in debates. This you know,
presidential debates. This happens in sports discussion. You watch a
TV show. Anytime you get into argument with a buddy,
anytime they change the argument, it's because it's in the
Their argument on the actual topic isn't a good one.

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Adam Silver knows this is bad for basketball. It's good
for the finals, it's bad for basketball. It's no different.
Lon Krueger was our guest. Let me look at my
time here. Lon Creuer was, I guess fifty minutes ago.
He's the head coach of Oklahoma, former head coach essentially everywhere.
And he said he kind of like, like Lawn is
one of those everybody loves Lon Krueger. He never wants

(01:11:59):
to say the wrong thing or a bad thing. But
he said, like, look, March Madness is awesome, but games
in December and January, a little bit in February, we
could do a little bit better job, I think, is
what he said, A little bit better job of getting
some following. In other words, nobody cares about anything in
college basketball, with the exception of the n c A tournament. Right.
I love college bastab I've covered it for fifteen years,

(01:12:20):
I played in it for four years. I followed it
my entire life. My brother is a coach, my dad
was a coach, and I'm I'm a junkie. I'll watch
I'll watch a game on a Wednesday night, no matter
where it is, if it's a good ball. Again, I
like watching ball. But most of America knows that the
only thing that really matters is the tournament. Right. People

(01:12:42):
don't care who wins a preseason tournament or your league.
You know they don't care, and I will try and
make you care. Like Kansas winning thirteen straight Big twelve
titles is amazing, but you only have one n c
A title during that run. It's not good enough for
people because the only the matters march. You don't want
to create that with the NBA. You don't want to

(01:13:04):
create the regular seasons too long and nobody cares. And
now the playoffs are too long and nobody cares. We
already know who the two teams. That's not the that's
not what you want to create. Last night's a perfect
example of why you want competitive balance because you need
a couple more games like that in order to create

(01:13:24):
more interest, more suspense, whereas now it feels like you
don't you don't have any We always play What did
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(01:13:47):
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(01:15:13):
then I'll give you my own thoughts on it. We
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Fox say? And now the Fox say? Earlier today, Skip
Bayliss on Undisputed, which, of course the TV show you
can hear on Sirius XM satellite radio, along with Shannon
Sharp and Joey Taylor had this to say about the

(01:15:34):
comparison between m j and Lebron. I would guess that
Michael Jordan's sat back at the end of this game
and said, really, that guy him, he's better than me,
the guy who just disappeared. Because I think we witnessed
last night, I'm gonna make a case for this. I

(01:15:54):
think it was the biggest single game upset in NBA
Playoff history given the circumstance of what happened Friday night.
You and I went back and forth texting about Friday
night because it was an absolute annihilation humiliation at Boston
in game two when silly me I thought the Celtics
would show the kind of pride and fight that they

(01:16:15):
showed last night at home in game two, Uh, look,
he's and and Skip smartly does this where he combines
a couple of things which are true and then makes
it into a narrative of Lebron. You know, his Lebron
choking argument um, which has some validity if you think

(01:16:35):
that that's what happened last night. Um. Skip tweeted this out,
which I think is very interesting to me. Espns Tom
halb Astro said that Lebron has changed his routine at
the free from line eighteen times this past season. That's
why he's only made sixty seven present I think that. Look,

(01:16:55):
I don't think that Lebron is as good as Mike,
and I think last night was slightly telling as to
why I've said before that he's not kind of that
go to end of game score the way that so
many other of the all time grades, even Magic Johnson,
who is a better passer than Lebron but not the
score of Lebron or the shooter of Lebron. Magic wanted

(01:17:16):
the ball more to score more with the game of
the line than even Lebron did. But between the free
throws and the fact that he'll lose confidence in his
jump shot, he I only I think he only made
one jump shot the other three where layups are dunks
last night, I mean four shots last night. He has this,
he has his ability as a great player to overthink things,

(01:17:37):
to lose his confidence to try and change things. Case
in point is free throw percentage, and some of that
is a badge of courage. It's I always say this,
Peyton Manning is the greatest quarterback ever with a bad arm. Right,
Lebron James is the greatest player ever. To not have
to have utter the utmost confidence in his jump shot.

(01:17:57):
And I do think that that that Jordan's probably he
sat there last night and goes, are you kidding me?
But I also think that if you've watched Michael Jordan's
listen to Michael Jordan for the through the years, even
when Lebron's had his peaked, he probably said, comparing it
to me, are you kidding me? So skips not wrong,
but I think he's a little over the top, because
we should point out that one of the reasons it

(01:18:17):
was such an upset was how good Lebron had been
up until last night. Speaking to Lebron, Here's what Colin
Cowherd had to say about what last night's performance for
him meant to the Calves. Michael left, the Bulls were
still viable. They didn't win titles without Michael, but they
were viable without Michael. They won fifty five, not fifty seven,
and if not for one Hugh Hollands call, they could

(01:18:39):
have gone to another finals. This Calves team, which is
sweeping and blowing out teams by fifty, can't beat a
Celtics team without Isaiah Thomas unless Lebron's great. I mean
I always knew Lebron was valuable, but you went on
Friday when he's great, by fifty on Sunday when he's
lousy for a half. You can't beat this team without

(01:19:03):
Isaiah Thomas. This speaks to his value. The Bulls were
still really really good without Michael. Uh, they were really
really good without Michael. But here's what you have to remember, Okay,
this is this is a lot like the discussion of
Matt cat Remember Matt Castle won uh ten games with

(01:19:27):
the or eleven games with the New England Patriots. The
Patriots won sixteen games sixteen games the year before, Okay,
sixteen games and actually won eighteen and one the year before,
So the drop off was from sixteen to eleven. That's
actually a massive drop off. The same can be said
for the Chicago Bulls, who, yes, it's true when Jordan's

(01:19:51):
left they won fifty five games, but they were actually
two games back up the Atlanta Hawks. What people forget
about that year was the Pistons were a mess. There
wasn't a ton of competition, and the guess the Bulls
won a lot of games, but they weren't the one seed.
They were actually the three seat. They moved from the
outright one best team in the NBA to the three seats,

(01:20:11):
and Jordan's first season of his full return, that's when
they won seventy two games. So do I think that
Michael Jordan's that that Lebron super valuable? Yeah? Of course, yeah,
of course. But do I think that there's somehow a
difference in value between Jordan's You know what, I'll share

(01:20:32):
that with you. There's a big misconception about when Lebron
last left the Calves and why the roof fell in,
why the roof fell in? Maybe that'll help with the Hey,
when Jordan left, they won fifty five games. When Lebron left,
they won twenties something. We'll share that with you. Next
in The Doug Gotlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. What up,
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(01:22:18):
there's the story of the sea lion that pulled the
girl into the water. You know, they're called sea lions, right,
they're not called sea kittens. I love when people are
like I didn't. I had no idea that there could
be such animals that were like, they're they're wild animals. Yes, yes, Ryan.
It's funny because my girlfriend actually said just exactly that.

(01:22:40):
We watched the video together and she goes, oh my goodness,
I can't believe like a sea lion would do that.
I'm like, sea lions are nasty, Like, do not mess
with sea lion. She's like, oh, I thought they were
so cute and nice. I'm like, absolutely not. No, there's
lots of animals that are that are all kinds of
nastiness that you think are that that you think are cute.

(01:23:01):
They're not particularly friendly, you know, Like there's a reason
that we domesticated dogs and cats because they're genuinely the
friendliest variety, right, Like, not all cats. I have a
I have a great cat. My cat is ridiculously lazy,
so she's obese, but she's great. And I got a
I got an awesome dog. But I like, there's a like,
well why do we domesticate cats? Does because they're the best,

(01:23:23):
the best to have his pets because someone tried to
domesticate a bear and he died. Uh yeah, Well there's
also the lady in uh Connecticut who had the pet
monkey that ripped off her face. That that will probably
stop you from wanting to have a pet monkey, right,
just I would, I would guess. But people seem did
you see that Ringling Brothers barn and Bailey circus, They closer,

(01:23:46):
they close their tent forever. I did see that, and
I never saw a show. Uh honestly, have you been
to cirque? They've been to any search show is better that?
That's really what like people are gonna say, well, it's
be because they took the elephants out because they were
torturing elephants for a long time. Has nothing to do
with it. Like they didn't evolve. You evolve, you or

(01:24:07):
you die, you perish. It's like osmobile used to be
like a great car. They don't make osmobiles anymore. You
know why they didn't evolve. They've still made those huge
American clunkers that you know Grandma and Grandpa liked, and
their rear wheel drive and you know, high horsepower, not
particularly quick just powerful, you know, I mean, like I

(01:24:29):
need something that gets better, gas mil something that's made
a little bit better. You gotta evolve. Um, I do
think there's a chance that Lebron is too evolved, that
he's too thoughtful, that he's too interesting, that he reads
too much, and that that goes counter to what we think,
like what we think about human beings. Chris Bosh had

(01:24:49):
this problem. Chris Bosh was too interesting and human being
to be a superstar. He had thoughts and he had feelings.
You almost had to be a soci ceopath in order
to be a great NBA player. You have to be
able to completely tune out any sort of you look.
You gotta take in coaching, you gotta take in thoughts,

(01:25:11):
and you have to play with others. And like we
we've talked about this for that that Jordan's the opposite
of Lebron, where he had to learn to share the basketball.
The Jordan rules were designed to knock him on his
ass every time he got the ball because he would
not he did not trust his teammates. So he had
to take some coaching for dex Winner and from Phil Jackson,
share the ball with John Paxson and would be j
Armstrong and Steve Kerr and and like he had to

(01:25:32):
do all these things and in order to survive, right,
in order to win a championship. But keep in mind,
like Jordan was still a licensed assassin. He will, I
mean even now, Like people remember Jordan's Hall of Fame
ceremony when he flew the guy who beat him out

(01:25:53):
in high school. Okay, Jordan got beat out early in
high school, right, and got cut from the team. That's
the famous story. Sophomore year. So Jordan gets beat out,
so he the guy who beats him out, He flies
him down, flies him up to Massachusetts, and he mentions
him by name at his Hall of Fame ceremony, and

(01:26:14):
then he eviscerates him, right instead of saying, like, hey,
that guy, he was so much better than me now
then and it motivated me, and I want to thank
you for being better than me, and he finding a
way to ultimately like that's not what Jordan's said. Jordan
was like, dude, I wanted to kill you then, I
want to kill you now you weren't better than me,
then you're not better than me. Like, look, Mike, we

(01:26:35):
got it you one a long time ago. But that's
not who Jordan is. Jordan's like a license assassin, Like
he lacks the normal feelings of a human being. That's
what it takes to be what we've always thought was
to be an all time great. You know that if
you ever watched Larry Bird Living Legend video, Like Larry

(01:26:56):
Bird can kind of have an aw shucks personality, but
Larry Bird was a vicious trash talk her and was
a licensed assassin. The famous story was Xavier McMillan told
in his in that that video. They're playing the SuperSonics
in Seattle and Bird comes on the floor and says,
and Xavier says, why are you laughing? He says, because

(01:27:16):
I'm gonna smiling because I'm gonna catch it right there
and I'll make this in your face and win the game.
And then he went and did it, and then he
was mad at himself because he left a second on
the clock. Right Like, there's this there's a certain they're
not normal human beings. They're like um, like like a
pit bull, Like can you make a pit bull into

(01:27:38):
a family dog, sure, but if you train it to
be a killer, you can't. Then go put in a
you know, room full of school children expected to not
bite somebody. The same thing with these basketballas. Larron thinks
too much, he reads too many books, like he's gotten
to the point where he overthinks like I'm gonna zero
Dark thirty, I'm gonna shut it down. I'm not gonna
do social media, which tells us that he's affected by

(01:28:01):
social media negatively. Right. If he's affected positively, he would
keep doing it. But he thinks about it. He thinks,
and if you don't believe me, take the eighteen different
changes in his free throw form. Take the fact that
he shut it down last night and people are tweeting
at me, like Gregor Hershberg, who's listening to this show, dude,
Oh you know Jordan's games six versus Seattle. He shot

(01:28:24):
so like Jordan wasn't He never thought he was gonna
miss his next shot. Jordan kept forcing the issue because
he was Mike. That was weird what we saw last night.
Chris Fedor, who covers The Cleveland Cavalier, said as much.
He joined us earlier today. It's like I've never seen
anything like that since the Dallas series, where he just
looked like he wanted nothing to do with taking the

(01:28:45):
big shot. That's the difference between Jordan and Lebron. You
can tell me that Lebron is more skilled, I'll probably
believe you. You can tell me he can do more
things in offense and do more things in Defensely, I'll
probably believe you. But you know what the differences in
the last two minutes of the game a game I
want twenty three with the basketball, and I think most

(01:29:07):
people would agree with me. Well, the other twenty three
with the basketball, the twenty three of the Bulls Jersey.
I find it interesting too that he wore six. Remember
you want to have his own number when he went
to Miami wear six, Like, hey, six is not actually
you don't number, that's actually Bill Russell's number. I had to,

(01:29:28):
you know, I had to be that guy. So I
like Lebron. I think it's terrific. But he was thinking
last night, And there's an expression in basketball. It goes
like this, if you think you stink, and Lebron stunk
last night, not for my level or your level or

(01:29:49):
any normal basketball player, but to be considered the greatest
player in the world, and to start overthinking whether or
not when you take a shot, what you do with
that shot, all that stuff that's too much evolution, that's
too much thought. That that's too many feelings. You don't
need to have feelings. It's like I don't care about

(01:30:10):
my wonder licks score of my defensive end. You have
one job defensive end. Kill the quarterback. You've got one
job in your Lebron James, kill the Celtics. Don't think
about it. We'll ask the creamy Abdul Jabbar. You want
talk about one of the great winners in the history
of the league. Six NBA titles, six NBA m v
P s. What does he think about the Lebron versus

(01:30:34):
Jordan's discussion? And how can we get big men back
involved in the game in the low post? Well ask
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broadcasting live from the studios of Fox Sports Radio. Here's
Doug Godlib. He's the all time lades score in NBA history,

(01:31:16):
six time m v P, six time NBA champion and
a guy got a chance to play for who has
written a book about his former coach, the great, late
great John Wooden. His book is Uh, Coach Wooden and Me,
Our fifty year friendship on and off the court. The
Cap sky Hook Creem Abdul Jabbar joins us on Fox
Sports Radio. Cap, how are you? I'm doing pretty good. Everything, everything,

(01:31:39):
everything is exceptionally well. Uh. You you've written so many books.
You've written books about history. Um, obviously you have a
great passion for sports and for your former coach. Why
write this book? So? I wanted to let people know
what coach was all about. A lot of what people
relate to him has to do with the coach. And

(01:32:01):
he gave us lessons in life that really we're meaningful
and helped us to live better live And I thought
I'd let people know what that was about. When you
arrived in southern California from Power Memorial, I think people
have forgotten that you weren't allowed to play your freshman year.
How do he help you through that? But we're not

(01:32:22):
just not playing, but the transition from being a New
York City legend to being a player who could not
play varsity basketball U c l A. Well, you know,
I went to facility to get an education. Then that
was the most important thing for me. So you know,
I intended to be there for four years. It wasn't

(01:32:43):
like I had to like being a rush and it
was okay, you know, it was a different time. Then
things took more time. Yeah, but but I'm I'm just wondering,
in the transition from being around your family to being,
you know, so far from every else, what was he
like on a daily basis? How did he treat you?
How did he how did he build this relationship which,

(01:33:05):
if you have written, has lasted fifty years. Well, you know,
my first year I had a different coach. I had
a freshman coach, so Gary Cunningham with our personal coach.
So my relationship would coach wouldn't really didn't get into
any high gear until I started playing for him and

(01:33:27):
that that change. That's when things started to increase and
I got to know him and understand his ways, and uh,
you know, we started to win games and all those
great things. But it took time. It wasn't something that
happened all at once. There are times in which you

(01:33:48):
buy in or you you become fully invested in your coach,
because you understand his level of investment in you. Was
was there a moment, Was there a seminal moment uh
to which the that that bond change to where it
was everlasting on or off the floor. Well, you know,
for me, I think I noticed the way his teams played,

(01:34:09):
and it kind of reminded me of the Boston Celtics,
Bill Russell Celtics. You know, the teams they played the
smothering defense and then ran quickly down the court to
to take opportunities, easy opportunities. Well, that's how coach Wouldn't
teams played, And it was like something I thought I
could do. And the teamwork and the coordinations and everybody

(01:34:34):
being on the same page really was what I wanted
to be about. To me, great basketball teams, all teams
to have the same d n A. Kareem Abdul Jabbar,
the NBA's all time scoring leaders, six time m v P,
six time NBA champion, of course, the national champion three
times over in college joints this and like, look, you

(01:34:55):
were so dominant they took they took dunking out of
college basketball. I like, that's how much you were dominating
the sport, and you developed this incredible repertoire of of skills.
I mean, I know that the sky hook was your
signature move, but you had so many more skills and
that's what allowed you scored points for so long in
the NBA. What is it in your mind that keeps

(01:35:17):
the low post from being part of NBA offense? Like,
what's the Some of it is the defenses are more
physical and the way the games officiated, but sometimes it
is the development or lack thereof of the big guy
as somebody who's probably the best to ever score down there.
What do you think holds back the center from being
part of a bigger part of NBA offenses. Well, I don't.

(01:35:39):
It's hard to find someone that is consistent enough in
the paint for me get the ball all the time.
I was lucky that my coaches felt that I could
handle a ball in there, I could score with it
or pass it out when I was double team and
you know I was, I could be relied upon to
do that. So when they get the ball, they're not

(01:36:01):
getting it up. You know. I've never been that type
of player, So I think that that enabled me to
remain a top priority on for our offense and wherever
it was because uh, you know, they like the way
I believe and I was never the type of person
that had to have the ball all the time. What

(01:36:24):
is it like for you when players mentioned the greatest
players of all time? And oftentimes you kind of get
glossed over. I mean, like you know from from Sometimes
they'll even skip you. They'll go, well, Bill Russell won
this many titles and then they go to Magic and
Bird and then to Jordans. Sometimes they for you, like,
you don't have the biggest ego in the world, but
you do have an ego. What is it like for

(01:36:46):
you to not get mentioned people say Jordan Lebron or
Jordan Lebron and Magic. Oftentimes they don't say Kareem. How
does that make you feel? Well, you know they do
say Kareem sometimes, so you know, I'm just said after that,
except where I can. Do you think it's so because
of the center is not? It's like, I don't know,

(01:37:07):
I'm just I just try and figure it out. Um,
all right, So from your perspective, Kareem, do you think
that basketball the way it's played now is this? What
do you like watching all the three point shots and
the lack of low post scoring, or would you like
it to go back to a little bit closer to
where where it was. Well. I think that if you
have a balance, you have opportunity to win the game

(01:37:32):
in various types of of ways. And the more versatil
of your team is, the more chances you have to
win a game. I've always thought that I tried to, uh,
you know, conveyed that as a sound way too to
structure a team. So you know, if he's got guys
that can score in the paint and who can shoot

(01:37:54):
it from the outside, you have more weapons than the
other guys. Kareem ap Jewels bar six time NBA champion,
the all time leading score in NBA history. His new book,
coach woulden and me our fifty year friendship on and
off the court. You're somebody who I don't think anybody
who listens to you read your books that doesn't understand
you're exceedingly bright. I was just talking about the fact

(01:38:15):
that I almost think that sometimes Lebron is too smart.
They thinks too much about the results and the ramifications,
and when he missed his shots, sometimes he'll stop shooting
because of because the ramifications of missing shots How did
you deal with that? How did you deal with kind
of the I almost feel like sometimes you could be
too smart and yet you were able to still compete
and win at the highest level. How do you tune

(01:38:37):
out the conscience that you had and just play basketball?
So I think you have to dedicate yourself to the
to the goals of the group. So you know, everybody
on the team wants to win the championship, and if
you can give them consistent talent to use to that end, Uh,

(01:38:59):
they're gonna keep you mind. So that I think that's
what teamwork is all about. And you try to find
the easiest and most efficiently to beat the other guy.
And uh, you know that that's what makes it interesting.
You You were recently quoted saying you don't like the
one and done role. So there there will be there
will be people that follow up and say, okay, so

(01:39:20):
do you prefer players going straight out of high school?
Would you? What would your if if cream was in
charge of college basketball, what would the rule be. Well,
it's really not the college basketball that that determines all
of this. It's the NBA Players Association. They determined how
someone can be to come in the league. So they

(01:39:41):
set the age at nineteen, so that's kind of like
ruined a number of things. I think the age should
probably be twenty one, you know, an age where most
young people have developed some type of maturity and a
work ethic. I think that would be better. Um, but
you know there are different opinions on this. The reason

(01:40:05):
that they have to DA League goes for people who
aren't academically inclined or qualified. They can go to the
daily I think college should be for for people who
are academically qualified. And you know that makes sense to me.
I tend to agree with the cream. I wish they
would they would listen to you and your voice of reason.
Last thing, because I do think this is a book

(01:40:27):
that that people should should, should should buy or should
download and should read. However, they travel too because the
relationship between players and their coaches, the father figure they become,
and the lasting legacy and relationship they build. As somebody
who played for a legendary coach I can I can
speak to it. Is there is there one of his?
He had so many of these phrases. Is there one
that rings in your head? John Wooden, who you played

(01:40:48):
for that you think of more often? Than others. Yes
there's one and Coach Wolton stole it from Ben Franklin,
but it really applies. Failing to air is preparing to fail. Um,
absolutely correct. And if you don't understand what you need
to do and how you need to prepare to get

(01:41:10):
your job done, you're not gonna get it done. And
you know this. This has been a constant thing for
me to understand and uh use to be successful in
my life. And it works well. Kareem. It's a fabulous
book and we really appreciate you join us and sharing
your thoughts with us. Thanks so much for being our

(01:41:30):
guest on Fox Sports Radio. Great talking with you, Doug,
Thank you, and good look pleasures mind Kareem Abdul Jabbar,
who is, without any question, one of the all time
great You don't Laker fans will tell you, like look,
magic was incredible. Imagine Johnson had this aura about him.
It still does. It's one of the things that kind
of gives him a pass for some of his failures.
Talk show host coach previously it's because it's magic. I imagine.

(01:41:54):
Never want a title in the NBA with that, Kareem.
I don't never want a title with that in the
NBA with that Kareem. And there's so many different parts
of Kareem that are interesting, right from the college where
from New York to l A and the fact they
had to change the rules, um to the fact that
he was a true student and a student of the game.

(01:42:15):
Two being politically active and socially active during the seventies
and forcing his way out of Milwaukee into l A
and then winning a title in Milwaukee and winning titles,
five titles with the Lakers. UM. There's just so many
parts to it. Obviously, if one of my favorite movies
is Airplane, he has a we're always one of the

(01:42:36):
pilots an airplane, Like Kaream is super super interesting. I
played for him, and I honestly thought that one of
the things that probably held him back as a coach
was he was too smart. Right where every every word,
every phrase, every play. It was a lot of a
lot of genuine thought that went into it instead of

(01:42:56):
just the knee jerk reaction of jumping a guy or
or or or or not overthinking and over coaching every
of every possession. But there's not a personal live that
doesn't run into careb intuor bar. There Goes is smarter
than me, right, okay, And that's actually absolutely of theither's
to be quick but don't hurry. That's a great John

(01:43:17):
Wooden is um But the Benjamin Franklin which John woulden
use failing to prepare, preparing to fail? Like, come on,
who hasn't used that? One? Who hasn't used that one
throughout revas won't be disciplined by the NFL, but doesn't
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(01:43:39):
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I'm with Kareem I just like we were talking circles, like, well,

(01:44:01):
they should be allowed to come straight out high school.
First of all, it's like one or two players ever
who are able to play and help immediately straight out
of high school. Second of we don't make them go
to college. Why don't we make them to high school? Right? Why? What?
Why are we making to high school and we don't
make them go to high school. Why do we make
going to school at all like you're you're good when
you're seven years old, dribble in the basketball and get

(01:44:22):
like I you know, Um, I understand that there are
financial limitations when you go to college, but there's also
and and if you can make it to that second contract,
I mean I I kind of think what the adjustment
that should be made, quite honestly, is in the wording

(01:44:42):
of the c b A as to win that second
contract becomes live, becomes viable. Here here's what I mean.
The reason that that NBA agents they're the ones that
are holding up the age limit because they know the
quicker you get to starting your uh, your years, your
your time in the NBA, the quicker you get to

(01:45:04):
that second deal. The second deal is when it's real money,
life changing money. The third deal is when it's generational wealth.
And you can't get to the second deal without getting
started in that first deal. Why not just change it? Hey, um,
instead of saying you can sign extension after year three
or after year four, why not it's four years after

(01:45:26):
your eighteen, four years after your nineteen. That's when you're
eligible for it. In other way and that way there
wouldn't be the push. You come out when you're ready.
All right, we got some great stuff for you. Dan
Buyer joins us. Now with the press, the press every day,

(01:45:47):
this time the Doug Gottlieb Show. We try and run
through five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten stories whatever, Dan Buyer.
As for us, we react to what do you got, Danny?
How about seven? Today? Um? Crazy story actually starting last night, Doug,
Indie five pollsitter Scott Dixon went out for some Taco
Bell with his wife and a former Indie champ, Dario Frankati,

(01:46:08):
went to the drive through in Indianapolis at about nine
forty robbed at gunpoint last night. The two teenage suspects
were captured by police a short time later, but they
took identification and credit cards. So a late night taco
bell run turned into a scary situation for the five pollsitter.
Here's the weird. Really, wasn't that late at night like
most people think Taco bell? Dude, that's like two twelve

(01:46:30):
to one am. Right, Yeah, that's not really Uh, that's
not really that late at night. That's that's a little
early for you know what that is what's open in
Indie on Sunday night at about Steak and Shaker, Taco
Bell sure enough, maybe some of the pizza places are closed,
who knows, But the fact is that the Taco Bell

(01:46:52):
drive through turned into a lot more a dangerous situation
for the polesitter. Now, Frank, Katy and Dixon didn't have
comments today. They just let their racing teams handle it
and essentially just trying to focus on the race coming
up on Sunday, because there's a couple of things. Do
you know, uh, do you know anything about the Taco
Bell secret menu? Um No, not really familiar. Not a

(01:47:14):
big Taco Bell fan. Well, listen, Taco Bell first of all,
late night, the Incredible Hulk is great. Uh, like late
at night, go go secret menu, Incredible Hulk or cheese
a rito or double grill grill caesadilla, like these are
all good late night. What's the There was another one
that they discontinued that you can still get there. It

(01:47:37):
was like a bean and cheese burrito man. What was
it called? Somebody somebody tweet me to remember, like I'm
I'm not too big a fast food snop to understand
Taco Bell man late at night, I'll ring that bell
no question about it. And by you know, these the
two thieves violating the sanctity of a late night bell run.
That really that strikes at the heart of us as American.

(01:47:58):
That's an Unamerican thing. And if you're in line at
a taco bell, now granted they didn't know, it's the
in the five poll sitter. You here in line at
taco bell, Like, that's the place you don't want to
rob anybody. Usually most people they go to Taco Bell
late at night. They got like five bucks in their
pocket and they're hoping to get a coke and like
three tacos. Uh, looks like the s suspects trying to
make a run for the border and it didn't work

(01:48:18):
out too well for him as they were there. You go, Hey,
how about this from the NFL A couple of notes.
First of all, let's start in the Twin Cities Vikings,
said coach Mike Zimmer, taking a break from offseason activities
following his eighth eye surgery. Remember he missed the game
last year following it. Now needs another procedure. The assistants
are gonna handle O T A s this week. But
the fact is eight eye surgeries for Mike Zimmer M hmm.

(01:48:43):
That seems like a lot. It seems like problematic. It's enough.
Eight is enough when it comes to eye surgeries. They
think he'll be back in a couple of weeks. My
thing with Mike Zimmer is and I like Zimmer and
obviously they had just between his eye. Every every starting
lineman getting hurt, Teddy Bridgewater blown up his knee, Adrian
Peterson getting hurt, like everything could have gone wrong went

(01:49:03):
wrong for the Vikings as they got after they got
off to a five and oh start. Um, I'd like
him as a coach, but you gotta get healthy and
spend some time away and trust your assistant coaches and
Rick Spielman to get things right for your return. Vikings
fans were wearing those lacing patches late in the year
watching that offense. Um, that's it's come on free entire,

(01:49:25):
ladies and gentlemen, that's two free. Egine defensive Victor al
Reeves won't be disciplined by the NFL after Fellow the
assault Chargers were dismissed in March, remember that because he
had a fall guy as he did, stemming from that
incident in Pittsburgh in February where two guys were knocked
out by a friend of Reevs. So the NFL says, hey,
he didn't violate anything in our personal conduct policy. So

(01:49:47):
Darrell Rives if he signs with his team with a team,
won't be punished by the NFL. Boy, how how great
did New England do it at? Using him for one year,
then getting out of the Drell business? Out of shape
last year, constantly beaten, no longer can be on rivas Island,
can't play his zone, can't play man. When you can't run,
you can't play. Wouldn't be surprised if Darrell Revers has

(01:50:09):
done in the NFL. That's one of your keep your job,
lose your career with the NFL, not punishing him. In
a quick Jets note um, even though Revis isn't with
the Jets anymore, the Jets did release Devin Smith today,
their second round pick two years ago. The wide receiver
from Ohio State towards a c L again isn't gonna
play in twenty seventeen, so he has gone from the Jets.
Has anybody had the worst series of drafting in the

(01:50:31):
second round in the New York Jets, He Devin Smith
was supposed to open up the field. He just couldn't
get on the field. That's was the issue. Uman. You
mentioned drel Revis and that Patriots of victory they beat
the Seahawks in Super Bowl forty nine, speaking of the
Seahawks defensive and Michael Bennett says he won't speak to
the Seattle Times anymore after one of their columnists, Matt Culkins,
explained in a piece the immature actions by Bennett in

(01:50:53):
his career. Bennett also said that he will encourage his
teammates to do the same. So Michael Bennett boycotting the
local paper in Seattle, which is which is laughably immature, right,
Like he's mad that somebody else wrote the facts about
his immaturity, and in a very immature way. He's not
only boycotting, but now you can't talk to all my friends.

(01:51:14):
In other words, Michael Bennett is living down to that reputation.
Do you see this from the NBA Twitter account last night,
the Amy Schumer tweet I did, okay, yes, the picture
of Amy Schumer and Dave Chappelle which was captioned Amy
and a fan. A lot of backlash from that tweet
is apparently somebody in the NBA didn't know who Dave
Chappelle was. Yeah, well, I mean it could have been

(01:51:36):
Amy and some black guy or Amy has black friends
or something like that. I don't know. It could have
been worse. Sure, sure, but but I will I will
pulix and I point this out. Dave Chappelle is hilarious. Okay.
I've actually heard his recent stand up show is not great.
That he sometimes is disinterested, only goes about fifteen minutes
is not I saw his Netflix special I thought was okay.
But like we all think of the Chappelle show. How

(01:51:57):
many years ago was the Chappelle Show? It's like twice,
like about two thousand two five? Was that? Yeah? Two thousand?
I mean, like the point is that the person running
that NBA Twitter account, how do you think they are? Yeah?
Probably about okay, So the likely is that he is
just some black eye of them. I just I'm sorry,

(01:52:18):
just he is a fan, right and I oh yeah,
by the way, if you say fan, you don't put
his name. It's actually not offensive. It's it's and it's
not inaccurate. Not inaccurate. Um, but yeah, it should have
said Dave Chappelle. I'm a fan I'm forty. Um. Also,
at last night's Game three in Cleveland, UH, aside from
Amy Schumer and Dave Chappelle, Chlorie Kardashian was there watching

(01:52:39):
her boyfriend Tristan Thompson, but she had company her sister Kylie. Yes,
so there are reports this is gossip Kylie sending nudies
to that's the report. Yes, Radar Online other outlets have
had this that maybe Kylie's got a thing for Tristan Thompson.
Mm hmmm mmm. I love it. I just loved the

(01:53:00):
idea of all this drama and how Lebron handles it.
I thought they had broken up. I thought he ditched
her for the playoffs, then only to reconvene after the playoffs. Try.
I'll tell you this, of the guys, Tristan Thompson probably
he was probably the second best player to Kyrie. Kevin
Love made all the threas in the first half, wasn't
good in the second half. Tristan Thompson played his his
took us off. But yeah, I've I've heard this story

(01:53:21):
as well, and um, yeah, I guess he's You know,
there's the supposed every guy fantasy and I have twins,
so I you know I'm unsensitive to this of twins.
What about going through more than one of the Kardashians. Uh. Yeah.
My guest though, is that Tristan Thompson. Uh, he's not
getting It's not that you don't get unsolicited nude pictures, right,

(01:53:43):
No dudes ever going like, oh my god, I can't
believe somebody sent me this nude picture. How did that
get number blocked? This number? She's not the only one.
She's not the only one who's guilty here, if it's true. Finally,
a police department in Massachusetts is the name their canine
dog after pat No, No, Patriots tended Rob Gronkowski. Yes,

(01:54:04):
the German shepherd is going to be called Gronk and
apparently it humps everything. No, that was a joke. That
was yeah, one for the hat trick today. Um No,
the dog is about fourteen weeks of training to do.
But the Yeah, the town said that Gronk stopped by
their once had a had a sandwich at a sandwich
shop until they felt like name in their their new
canine after Gronk. Um, I believe those aren't the sandwich shops,

(01:54:28):
you know that, right? What do you know what they
call sandwiches. What you call sandwich in New England? No,
I don't, Uh, Bryan, Ryan, do you have any idea
what they call in New England? You guys don't even
want to venture a guess I thought sandwiches spot. No,
come on, guys, No, that's all you got. It's all

(01:54:51):
we got, man. I'm I'm kind of disappointing you, guys.
All right, I'll share with you what you call a
sandwich in New England. Plus plus UH Alvin Johnson speaking
out against his former team and what likely ultimately led
to his early retirement. That's upcoming next broadcasting live from
the studios of Fox Sports Radio. Here's Doug Godlieb Doug

(01:55:15):
Golip Show rolls on Fox Sports Radio special thanks to
the Coaches Versus Cancer folks having us out in Las
Vegas at Shadow Creek Golf Course, which is owned by
the good folks at MGM. Just an outstanding golf course.
You ever come out to Vegas and you stayed at
MGM resort, find out how much it is or if
you can get worked in with your deal and then
come out and play around. It is absolutely spectacular. A

(01:55:37):
couple of programming notes, UH and his Canter, of course,
has been making the rounds. Remember you got stuck in
Romania trying to travel back to the States. He will
join us tomorrow, so will Paul Goldschmidt, the best player
who nobody gives a Schmidt about in Major League Baseball. Uh,
he's been crushing it in the Valley of the Sun
for half a decade and only because of the University

(01:56:00):
Phoenix commercials. Does anybody care? A little bit down year
last year? But uh, we'll talk some Diamondbacks baseball as
well tomorrow with Goldie as he will be our guest.
Coaches Versus Cancer is a partnership between the American Cancer
Society and then as Association of Basketball Coaches. They've raised
over a hundred and ten million dollars to date and
Lon Krueger's our host today. Uh, this event raised one

(01:56:21):
million dollars net already this year and they're still the
rest of golf today will be at Top Golf later
that's when JT. The Brick will be broadcasting live from
there on Fox Sports Radio. And uh, they got another
golf outing tomorrow. So I really appreciate the American Cancer
Society all they do and Coach Versus Cancer raising money
for the A c S. If they call, we always

(01:56:41):
get on a plane, a train or a bus and
and get there as quickly as possible. Uh. The boys
who are um, you know l A guys, they do
not and they do not understand there's a different language
spoken in New England. You guys, you don't know that
that there's a different so um. And look, I grew
up in southern California, so to me, everything was a coke.
Back when I was getting everything was a coke. If

(01:57:02):
he had had a cactus cooler, he gus, remember cactus
coolers of course, right, cat does that was a coke
though I was a Captors Cooler coke. Everything was a coke. Um.
And then you know in the Midwest, everything is a pop. Right,
there's pop. I want to pop pop like your dad?
No pop. Well, there's different so um. I would say
what we call them what sandwiches? Like a sandwich? Right,

(01:57:24):
I want a sandwich? By that's what you call when
you got out to be honey fixed me a sandwich,
right as sandwich? Um. Now there's hero area, which is um,
there's heroes, which is I think of it like in
the mid Atlantic region, Uh is more hero area, right,
you got subs subway subs or are like more like

(01:57:45):
in like in New Yorkers subs and of course because
subway has become so big that substance kind of when
you get to New England, when you get to like
the midpoint of Connecticut where it starts becoming New England.
It's actually named or maybe music's favorite website. It is
named after what it is. You guys know what what
you call a sub in New England. You guys don't know.
You haven't looked it up. I'm very interested to hear
what this answer is about the grinder. It's a grinder,

(01:58:08):
grinder grind. You also you call a water fountain of
bubbla bubbla like a bubbla yes, um? And a grocery
cart is a carriage? Oh? Did not never even heard
that before? Ye? There you go, So you know this
is this is just this is what happens. We live
all all around the country. There are different expressions for

(01:58:28):
different things, um that we'll try and share with you here. Uh.
And I think people on Twitter will respond to such.
Calvin Johnson basically as is saying what everybody thinks like
Calvin Johnson. Of course, recently retired Detroit Lion. Didn't play
this year for the Lions, retired when we still had
some juice in the tank. And he's mad because the
Lions made him pay back part of his signing bonus

(01:58:50):
because it was to based upon playing this past year.
It's part of the contract, dude. But um, he has said, like, look,
guys won't work concussions to their coaches because they don't
want to come out. It's it's one of those things
with UH. It reminds me of the uh the Seinfeld line.
Have you ever heard Seinfeld stand up where he says,

(01:59:12):
you know the thing about the helmet laws, right, like
the helmet law is designed to protect a brain that's
functioning so poorly it doesn't know it needs a helmet
to protect it, which which is brilliant. What's the same
thing with concussion concussion protocols, Like we we put so
much of the onus on the teams and their doctors
and even us his fans like, oh, he's got a concussion.

(01:59:32):
But the fact is that those guys want to play football. Now,
maybe it will change as they have greater knowledge of
the damage they're doing to their brains. But end of
the day. If if you can fake it that you're
okay and keep playing, you're going to do damage to
your brain. But that's what players have done for a
long time. And this Will and him say what the
truth is, Will will forever hurt their ability to sue

(01:59:53):
the league forever heard. We had a great time in Vegas.
I do think that tonight the Warriors, the Warriors close
out the San Antonio Spurs. I think they look at
what happened last night in Cleveland says and say, that's
not gonna be us right. Regal helped me out today.

(02:00:14):
He was outstanding. Thanks to the folks in Shadow Creek.
This is the Doug Gottlief Show. Warriors win tonight, Fox
Sports Radio.

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