NFL Quarterbacks: Driving A Car or Riding A Motorcycle

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Fox Sports Radio, Boom Up America, Doug Godlive Show, Fox
Sports Radio, coming to you live from the City of Angels,
where rams still in first place. And oh yeah, by
the way, the judges keep winning. Had two teams in
l A for fifteen minutes, both are in first place.

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I want to point out in New York City you've
had teams forever both in last place. Uh, look, we
got a ton of things to get to metric Ton.
We need to talk about John Carlos Stanton, who's part
of the new Bronx Baby Bombers. And uh, the dramatic
change in the Yankees between and just happened in one weekend.

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John Randall, Hall of Famer, will join us. We'll talk
to him about the vikings. Also asked him about remember
when he used to put on the eye black. It's
almost like he was wearing the mask and he had
great eye black. He was like one of the first
eye black guys. D'Angel Williams, the Pro Bowl running back,
joins me in fifteen minutes. Is does every week we
get through the worst decision of the weekend, um, and

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before we get to the quarterbacks that are motorcycles and
the quarterbacks that are cars and why a car is
always a better motive transportation than a than a motorcycle.
I should point out that while it was a disastrous
weekend yet again for injuries, it was a great weekend

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to watch the NFL. I, like I think most of you,
could not take my eyes off of the Bills could skame.
And before you say should have played the game for
you say that should have cleared off the field, just
know this. Did you watch the game, you probably had
the same thought in mind about I can't And then
think for a second you're watching a terrible Cults team

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take on an average Bills team with a third string
quarterback for the Bills playing, and you could and take
your eyes off at why because great TV sport wouldn't
want to be there in person, Austin watch on TV
and everybody whoever played football is like man, I would
love to have played in that game. From that until

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last night's Sunday night game, in which the Steelers found
a way to win, as they seemingly do every week,
the toy with the opponent, they looked like they were
beating up defensively, one not having Ryan Chase here, and
two on a short week after a vicious Monday night
football game. Steelers found a way or maybe the Ravens
found a way to lose one. But telling week. Interesting

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week in the nash Football League, and of course we'll
get to Seattle's meltdown when the bully got bullied by
the Jacksonville Jaguars offensive line. All that to come. But
I was watching football yesterday with my son, who's eight
years old, and he's just gotten into the age he liked.
He's always liked Odell Beckham Jr. He's always like kind

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of the star players and the j Watson because he
likes so many kids they grew up. They watch highlights, right,
And I'll never forget his first year playing flag football,
which is like three years ago. He's playing flag football
and he's like, he comes over to me and halftime,
it's like, Dad, where all the highlights? I was like,
what are you talking about? It's like, Dad, most of
these plays have no highlights. Like, yeah, that's because this

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is how football has played, right, Like it's kind of
can be boring, boring, boring. And then in the NFL
they call him explosives, Like you call an explosive play,
and that's when you get some of these deep past
plays down the field, like, hey, dude, life is not
full of highlights. You capture a highlight because they once
a game, once a season, sort of moment. But he
wouldn't watch the games up until recently. So last night

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or yesterday we're watching Eagles Rams. Eagles RAMS, which is
two of the premier teams in nash Football League. Obviously,
the Eagles have already suffered a couple of devastating injuries
before yesterday's completely devastating injury to Carson went in which
he tours a see Early in the game, Carson Wentz
on third down, was back in the pocket. He steps

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up in the pocket and there's nobody in front of him, nobody.
There's no spy, there's no nothing. And it looks again
to us we're watching on television the game play in
the l A Coliseum. He could run to his left,
he could run to his right. It's third and four,
he could pick up the first down, like, Dad, run it.
Why won't he run? And I was like, look, man,
let me just explain to you. There's an expression in

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the NFL. You don't get faster, everybody else does. And
he's like, So I was like, well, here's the cell.
When you're in the pocket as a quarterback, they they
are not allowed to hit you from the neck up,
can't touch you, and they're not allowed to hit you
from the knee down like there are I can't hit
a guy in those areas rules. And then once you

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throw the ball, can't touch you. They had like a
split second thing. Can't touch you. Once you run the football,
all bets are off unless you live. And he's like, well,
why don't you just run in slidly? It sounds great,
but it's a little bit harder than it looks because
you don't get faster everybody else does and when they
hit you, they hurt you, Like he should have just

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run it. Later on the game, of course, Carson went scramble,
scores a touchdown. Uh, and as we've come to learn,
tears his a c L. We saw the move that
Cam Newton put on. Who's the defender from the Minnesota
Vikings who got juked. We still he he should have
torn his a c l s and that should have.
But felt like he tore his a c ls on

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an incredible cut, incredible juke by Cam Newton. It's set up,
set up, but the go ahead score the winning score
as the Carolina Panthers got a much to win against
the depleted Minnesota Vikings team that didn't have much of
their offensive live were on that. It was Andrewson Djo,
isn't it Sandejo? It wasn't as bad. You know, a
couple of these guys they get leapt over because they

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don't see what they hit. Right, Sandejo just got juked.
Just there was what said that. Bill Raftery says, Lingerie
on the floor, right, he got joked out of his jockstrap.
The Cam Newton run is running. Mobile quarterbacks are like motorcycles.

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Pocket quarterbacks our cars. Now, let's be honest about the
motorcycle thing before we get to the downside. The pro
side is looks kind of cool, right, Like I'm not
a big Tom Cruise guy, but Tom Cruise kind of
owns top gun when he's on a motorcycle. Every dude, like,

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even if you're on a motorcycle, dude, like, you know,
I would like to have a Harley. Um, motorcycles are cool,
they're quicker, they're more fuel efficient. If you're, for example,
in southern California, you can go knowing in the car plane,
but in and out of traffic, so traffic affects you less.
Parking is easier, They're less expensive that I mentioned, They're quicker,

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they're faster, there's air wind in your face, you're you're
you're as close to flying on the ground as anything
you can experience. There is the one downside to motorcycles,
which is if you hit anything, or if anything hits you,
a lot of times the motorcycle it problems. Not the motorcycle.
It problem is know what other drivers of cars can't

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see the motorcycle, or don't pay attention, don't respect how
quick or how close they are. Anything hits you, anything
touch you, the likelihood of you seriously hurting yourself is
exponentially higher than it is if in your car. Cars
are safer than they have ever been, much like throwing

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from the pocket is safer than it's ever been. Right,
you're when we were kids, there used to be look
at the rates of death and automobile accidents. Between taking
many drunk drivers off the road and instituting seatbelt laws
and the general general safety of cars, it's way safer

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than it's ever been to drive a car your seatbelt on,
you got airbags, not just front but side. Now you
can put the windows down. It's not the same thing.
Your dog might think is the same thing, but it's
not the same thing. You can go fast in a car.
I have a really quick car. It is not a motorcycle.

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You can have a fuel efficient car. It's not as
fuel efficient as a motorcycle. Traffic still a problem. They're
more expensive, they're more clunky, they turn slower, they speed
up slower, they slow down slower. They're bigger, but they're safer.

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And yeah, absolutely, Aaron Rodgers broke his collar bone in
the pocket. We've seen Tom Brady tore his knee in
the pocket. Okay, Philip rivers or is a c l
in the pocket? Like it does? You do get hurt.
People do get injured in automobile accidents every day. But
the percentage of likelihood of you getting hurt as opposed

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to when you're in a motorcycle again exponentially higher. Motorcycles,
more fun motorcycles, more sexy motorcycle. But a chick on
the back, she's like gripping onto you. Like everybody's got
that image, like I'm gonna get a bit in the
back motorcycle. She's gripping to me, she's scared. I'm tough,
Get there fast, take my helmet off, carry my helmet inside,
even when I don't what's the what TV was it?

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Was it Seinfeld that that he carried a home helmet inside?
Was it friends? Or he didn't actually have a motorcycle anyway,
My point is that, look, Carson Wentz is not even
really a He's not even really like a running quarterback.
He's more like a convertible right. He's more a pocket
passer who can in fact run. But dude, you start running,

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you get out on the edges. You get to where
they can hit you, and they can hurt you. You
become a you become a motorcyite and there is no
protection out there for you, you know, other than you
can slide feet first, and even that is really hard
because this guy's are competitive. You get close to the
end zone, you like, dude, I want to dive in

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the end zone. I want to score. It was a
freak play. He tore his a c l But you
can cross the Eagles off as super Bowl contenders. I'm
not going to the the Super Bowl with Nick Foles. Stop it, uh.
I like Nick Foles. I've actually played basketball with Nick Foles.
Nickpoles like a really good basketball player. Good dude, And
I think you know because his second year in Philadelphia

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the last time around didn't work out well because the
trade to the Ramps, by the way, really good trade
last time around for the Eagles to get Sam Bradford,
because all that didn't work out. Your image of Nick Foles,
he's a it's one of those guy who can start,
not really a starter. You're replacing the m v P
of the league and you have all of the other injuries.
Here's their head coach, Doug Peterson on the dree People

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thought our chances were gone by the wayside when Jason
Peters went down, to and when Darren Sproles goes down
and to the fans out there, they can't you can't
lose faith. I mean this is this has been a
resilient football team all season long. And if there's ever
an opportunity for me as a head football coach to
to rally the troops, you know, now now might be
the time. Listen, it sounds great like we know, Jason Peters,

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we got it. No, Darren Spools were good. No, Carson
wentz Man up Philadelphia everybody hates us, Like, no, no, dude,
we don't hate you. We actually like Carson Wentz, right,
we like Carson Wentz. I mean I think who was
it at halftime who was calling Carson Wentz? And the
on the Fox broadcast was saying, like, that's next next

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John Elway? That was how we long? Right? How long
is it? They like, that's the next John Elway. Then
he tears to say ce like, no, everybody likes you.
You're just not winning a super Bowl with the litany
of injuries. So like I told my eight year old son,
I'll tell you now, stay in the pocket. Kids. And
if you want a quarterback that is destined to be healthy,

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is entirely the more likely to be healthy for a
longer period of time during his career. You want a
guy who was a car, not a motorcycle. Motorcycles fun motorcycles.
Sexy motorcycles are quicker, slow down, faster, more agile, winning
your face. If you're like a dog, kind of like
a bird, got it, prove a car. D'Angel Williams joins

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the show up coming next he'll give up. He'll give
us the worst decision in the NFL for this week
plus to get his thoughts on the Steelers pulling out
another one out of the rectum. I don't know. They
pull more games out of the rectum than any team
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sweet d'angela. William joins us every week. It's a two
time pro bowler. He's an opinionated uh NFL analyst here
on the Doug Gottlieb Show. And um, look, I thought,
I want to get to the dumbest decision of the week.
I know that's what you love to start with, but
I want to start with last night's game, in which
the Steelers had a fourteen nothing lead. Then they're down

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eleven late. Uh, don't get one two point conversion? Do
get another one? Find a way to win. I felt
like a good There's two things that led their defense
to being just slashed by the Baltimore Ravens one short
week after a viciously physical game against the Bengals, into
not having Shasier. I thought those two things really hurt him.

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Is that it led to Baltimore running up and down
the field against him. Uh. No, it actually led to
a lot of mistackles, is what it led to. That's
why the game was as close as it was and
had to come from behind and win the game. Being
played safety game, I was very surprised and shocked. Even
though he went over five on yards and throwing the ball,

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he didn't throw any receptions and he didn't take the
risk that's normally associated with being being doing being Uh.
He didn't take those risks. And it told me another
thing too, just by looking at that Baltimore offense. Uh,
when going into this next week against the New England Patriots,
if you had a good running back and a running game,
you can hurt or punish this Pittsburgh defense. That's something

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new England does not have, so I liked my chances
with the still is being New England this coming a
week all right, Uh, I'll just I'll say this. I
think the dumbest decision of the week is the easiest
one this week where the Houston Texans put Tom Savage
back out there after he's convulsive on the sideline. Uh,
it's gross. Um, I don't. I don't hold O'Brien said,

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had he seen the video, uh, he wouldn't have put
him back out there. And I tend to believe him, right.
I don't think anybody could see. But how can the
doctors not see that? I don't if there if there is,
I'm not even putting this on the doctors. Do This
is the issue that I have, man. I put this
solely on John Hughes, which was the rest. He saw

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the entire thing unfold right there in front of him.
But not only I'll put it on the rest. I
put it on the NFL. And this is why I
put it on the NFL. The NFL per the Collective
Bargaining Agreement. I mean, if you want to put on
the n f l p A, you can do that.
You want to put on the NFL. But this goes
beyond the doctors on the sideline right now, if you
wish to wear something, some shoes, whether you wear some

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gloves or something, some article that you shouldn't be wearing
on the football field, you will get a call from
New York. They'll let the rest know, and the rest
will not that you on the field at all until
you remove the illegal garment from your person's whether it's
your glove, your shoes, your necklace, whatever they deemed illegal

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for you to wear on the field, the reps will
not let you in the games. There's no way you can.
You can tell me that nobody in New York saw
that Tom Savage went down like that. I knew that
it was something seriously wrong with him, and John the
rest watched it happened in front of him because he
checked on him to make sure that he was okay,
got him up, he walked off, and then allowed this

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guy to come back into the game. That's New York
and that's the referee. If you could, if you can
penalize me and not let be in the game because
I have an illegal garment on or promoting the company
that's not associated with the NFL. You can damn show
keep me out of the game if you know that
something serious happened to me, and the doctors in the
sideline don't know. Because we're gladiator. We're gonna lie, We're

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gonna try to get back in the game. We don't
think about Hell. We think about our guys is next
to us, as FA read that we these football players
that you call football players, we call families that we
don't want to let them down, and we know that
they have a better chance to win with me being
on the field at fifty four the or thirty or
even as opposed to be. So I've been trying to

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figure out, like not necessarily who thought it was, but
who to blame, because again, if you were in the
legal garment or where something some beats on it, we're
beating the game. They won't let you in that game
because it's not a license product for the NFL, and
therefore you cannot come on the field. But then if

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you wear something that's approved by the NFL, then you're
finally come in. But yet you can get a concussion
clear as day rest seeing the people in New York
City and didn't allowed to come back on the football field,
That's crazy to me, though, like where can you do that?
It's it's really hard to fight a warthies war anymore
because now the the images which started really Vietnam, once

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your images came back state side, people just don't have
the stomach to see any of our best and brightest
getting hurt or even worse yet, being killed in action.
I bring that up because I kind of feel that,
like that's what's gonna happen to the NFL, or maybe
more importantly or uh to to youth football, to youth

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tackle football, like high school football. That image was so jarring,
and you put it in combination with Ryan Shay's ears,
uh laying motionless and holding his back and now being
in a hospital on Monday night, and then you have
the concussion studies. I don't I don't know, Dan, like
I understand the type of mental and physical toughness it

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takes in order to play football, and that you, as
an adult, made that decision. I think it's different when
you talk about a high school kids. That was a
really bad moment for football, not just putting them back
out there, just the image of him shaking and convulsive
after after being hit. It was a horrible image does.
But I'm gonna tell you something, and this is crazy,

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and I sound crazy when I said, but it's the
absolute truth, and this is the this is the fact
of the matter. And I almost don't want to say this,
but I'm gonna say it. Nobody cares about football players
unless it directly affects them. So as long as fantasy

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football is around and people can make money off of
it directly, then they don't care. That want those fantasy
point I I I understand that, Dan, But I'm talking
about like high school football. All I was I got,
Like I tweeted about it yesterday, I give it ten
years of high school football. Because here's the way it works.
All it takes is a study falled by a class
action lawsuit against the state, and then football tackle football

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becomes uninsurable by those by that state. Once it becomes uninsurable,
there is no more tackle football in high schools. Now,
you still would have college football, but you'll have flag
up until college. I honestly think that's the way. That's
the way we're progressing. The numbers of tackle football participants
are down. I don't think it'll happen, Doug. The number

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of driving people that are driving cards. That's not down.
I mean you you you subject yourself to the same
treatment once you get behind the wheel of a car
in a car with somebody for an accident. There's more
people that get killed or hurt or concussed and car
accidents than it is and people playing football. But people

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are not driving cars less. I mean the market for
cars aren't down. Well, look, you need a car in order.
For first, you need a car in order to get
to work. Secondly, actually deaths, deaths and injuries behind the
wheel motor vehicle are down substantially. There just isn't a
way to protect people from this. And for it's a
as a voluntary high school sport. I'm telling you those

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images are for a Look, I grew up. I played
football growing up as a kid. Okay, my mom and
dad they signed the permission slip. It was no big deal. Um.
I got an eight year old son who's an athlete,
loves football. He's like, I wanna play tackle football and
I don't think it would affect him. But why run
the risk? Why throw him out there if there's the
risk of of of hurting his brain? Let alone? Forget

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about We're not we don't even talk about what Shais
Hero went through, which is the back and neck injuries
which have always been the reason that people have been
hesitant to let your kids play. I just don't think
it's going anywhere anytime soon. Uh. And it's not going anywhere.
I mean, football is gonna be here to stay. I
don't know if you noticed. They just signed a two
point five billion dollar contracts to stream this game, so

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somebody's watching. Somebody is not turning the TV off. I mean,
people are upsetting and the upward because of the injuries
that happens to these players. And they're devastating injuries. But
it's like a bad car crainch like you, you don't
want to watch, but you can't turn away. Daniel Williams
Dangel Williams joining us on The Doug Gotlip Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Minnesota Vikes came in. They were depleted,

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especially on their offensive line, but Cam Newton made some play,
especially with his legs, then end up getting getting them
to uh to victory. I don't know what the hell
he's wearing out after the game, but I guess you
play that well, it doesn't really matter. Um. What's your
sense though of long term, how how how good is
Carolina in comparison to Minnesota, considering Minnesota came in on

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the road with all those injuries that lose him with Austin.
All right, we'll get him, We'll get him back. I
want to ask him about about the Carolina Panthers and
uh and how how sustainable that success was because you know,
end of the season here in the NFC South, all

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those teams play one another, has become super super competitive.
Let's go to Dan by Er, get your quick up there.
We'll get Dangelo back. It sounds good. Carson Wentz done
for the season, torn a c I'll confirmed today body
head coach at Doug Peterson. You know, it's hard to say.
It appears watching the film again today that it was
actually before the contact, So it could be it could
be a non contact deal. That's just what it appears

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like tape when suffering the injury when he dove for
the end zone. And yesterday's win against the Rams, so
that means Nick Foles is going to be the team's
starting quarterback for Sunday's game against the Giants. Texans, said
coach Bill o'brien'ss T J. Yates likely to start a quarterback.
There's Sunday against the Jaguars in place of Tom Savage,
who suffered a concussion, and yesterday's lost to the Niners.
Now the NFL and the NFL p A are investigating

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if the Texans followed protocol. Bill O'Brien on the video
of Savage after the hit. It's benefit of seeing the video.
Obviously from my my my standpoint, the care for the player,
I would have never let that player back in the game.
Savage was seen shaking after that hit, as Doug and
de'angelo we're just talking about, because his hands, his hands

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were like, uh, what's is there a word? What? What's
the word when your hands like you can't straighten out
your fingers? Yeah, it could. They're like a sort of cramp.
It almost looked like they were cramping locked up or um. Yeah,
just awful, awful situation. NFL and Players Association looking into it.
Jets quarterback Josh mccow done for the season, broke his
hand and yesterday's loss to the Broncos. Looks like Bryce

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Petty is gonna start Week fifteen against the Saints and
High Span Trophy winning quarterback Baker Mayfield joined by two
other Oklahoma Sooners to headline the AP All American team. Villanova,
You're new number one team in the country in college tubes.
No Kyrie Irving tonight Doug for the Celtics against the
Bulls quad injury for Kyrie. Uh, Dan, you don't have
kids if he had, when we did, let him play
tackle football really hard? And you played tackle football in

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high school. Um, all state guy and was in state
of Wisconsin. Um we were all and nine. But hey,
it's all good. Um would you would you let him play? Um? Yeah,
I'd have a really tough time doing it after seeing
some of the things. I mean, you're talking about the
savage hit, the Luke Kikley one last year. Remember he

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was crying on the field on that Thursday night game
again like that, Like I still can't get out of
my my head. Yes, I mean it's it's hard. And
like again, I love football. I love so many of
the things that football teaches kids, right, I mean my
first time and yes or no, sir, he's sitting on
one knee and always being known by your last name,
and how you need eleven guys to make a playwork.
Like all these things are great, especially for little boys.

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They gotta get that aggression out, like all that stuff.
But like, man, I don't want that to be my kid.
And and like d' angel is right, I couldn't look away.
I couldn't stop watching that Buffalo game versus the Cold
Stephen or any of the hard hits. Of course I
love watching it. That doesn't mean I want my kid
to go out there and play it. Um. I mean
these guys are fast, strong, and when they're little kids,

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you just think, like that's great. I don't want to
be my kid. I don't want to be my kids
or D'Angel Williams rejoinses Daniel, I want to ask you
about about the Panthers. How impressed were you or were
you impressed by the Panthers ability to be the Vikings
yesterday at home? I was very impressed. Uh, they made
Kase Keenom look like uh, he was still in Houston
playing football in college. I like that. I like that

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that Cam the mobile quarterback that he is, and that
he's able to get things done with his legs when
his arms not quite working the way he wanted to work.
Or the Vikings secondaries playing higher than they should be
playing in terms of guarding his receivers. I like the
fact that he put it on his back and that
he had that sixt yard rush there at the end
of the game and ultimately capped it off with the

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Jonathan Stewart touchdown. I mean, that's what they needed. He
stepped up and he delivered when he had to after
throwing the pick right before and them coming down and
you know, them missing the seven points. They had a
couple of drop balls there, uh, and ultimately got one overturned,
therefore end up kicking the field though. But yeah, I
like the way to Cam playing football. All right, Let's
let's get to the Seahawks. Um. Look, the Seahawks have

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always been a team that uh walked the walk and
talk to talk, right, especially Richard Truman. You know, I'm Sherman.
Don't have Cam Chancellor. And against the Jaguars, Jaguars lined
up and when they needed a first down, they hand
the ball Leonard four Nett and they ran right at
that defensive line and then uh, and then all of
a sudden he got ugly. Uh. Some on field fights
would seem to be started by you know, Michael Bennett,

(28:01):
who I think he thought he got stepped on and
he rolls up on a dude, and then there's some
cheap shots and fights and then the ejections and then Jefferson,
I think, wouldn't leave the field. And then somebody hurls
a beer at him when he wouldn't leave the field,
and then he tries to go up and to stand
somebody else rules a beer into him, up the beer
at him. Um, just as a former player who has
played in some really tough environments just on the field,

(28:24):
what was your takeaway on Seattle and Jacksonville in terms
of the fights and who's the blame? You don't want
to know, as I do. I wouldn't have had you
unless I want to know. Dude, Dad was football at
his Peers form. Man, you you go back and you
look at the times where you know, you had guys
smoke a cigarettes on the sideline, and people respected those

(28:47):
football players because they thought they were badasses. So they
never would challenge and they never threw the beers. I mean,
you go to New York and they threw snowballs as
at Santa Claus as Philly, I mean right well, Phelly, Yeah,
they on snowballs at Santa Claus. So you look back
at all these things, and the NFL has tried their
best to protect the fans from us, but there's nothing

(29:09):
in place outside of shrinking where we're protected from the fans.
So the guy that threw the beer at him, I
mean at Jefferson, I mean, he's not even gonna penalized.
They probably don't even they're not even looking for him.
They always they're looking for the guy in Jefferson because
he's the one with all the money we can get
in his pocket. So let's just find or suspend him

(29:31):
because we know who he is, as opposed to spending
all our time and money and investigations trying to find
a fan that threw an eight dollar beer. You know that.
So you go where the smoke isn't normally whether they're
smoke that's fired, that's Jefferson. But watching the fights on
the field, man, I got my blood boiling. I mean,
that's when you get up and you're ready to play.

(29:52):
Whether it was cheap shots or not, it's just the
perspective of who you're looking at. Are you if you're
a Seattle fan, you're just like, hey, you know, they
shouldn't have did this. But if you you know, you're
looking at it from a Jacksonville Jaguars then you're like, no,
that was just a chief shot. So it's all about perspective. Man.
When I was looking at it, I was like, dude,
this is insane. If the NFL doesn't get their hands

(30:14):
around this situation earlier, which they didn't, it's gonna escalate
into what it did, escalating into finds and suspensions potentially
coming coming forth, because there's no way that they can't
do anything with suspending ju juice uh Schuster for his
uh his crack. Yeah, So so it's here, so they

(30:35):
have to come back and they have to do something
because they're they're reacting there. That's that's the NFL. Like
they react. They don't they're not proactive. They're reacting well
because they're reacted, this happens, Okay. So I guess my
thought though, is like, isn't this what isn't this what
former champions do? Right? Especially when when when you're not

(30:55):
as good as you used to be, right, but you've
been there before and you know kind of all that tricks,
you get a little dirty. Like we saw it in basketball.
Remember the Celtics after they won that one championship with
the Big Three with KG and Paul Piers and then
ray Allen. When ray Allen left, they weren't really a
championship team, but they were always starting something right, even
go back to the Pistons and when they they always

(31:17):
tried to mess with Jordan's they walked off the court
when they got swept by the bulls. We've seen this
in the NFL, when you know teams when when they
lose a step or two, well let's just fight. Why
not because you know, like, look, other teams are still
scared of the image. In this particular case, Jacksonville stood
up to the challenge. But it feels like Seattle knows

(31:38):
the end is near, especially with all these injuries, and
their best case scenario is to try and get in
your head, to try and be a little bit dirty. Uh,
I got, I got something nice. This is going to
kind of the way off killed because you've kind of
staid a couple of times, and I don't know how
much time we have, but um, you said something earlier

(32:02):
that just kind of got my attention. I've been wanting
to talk about it kind of all week, and I
was hoping that we get a chance to talk about
it a little bit so Tom Brady uh and well
Odell Beckham Jr. Posted a video did you see the
video comparing except to Tom Brady right, and a lot
of people was piste off and upset that O. B J.
Would even put hisself and the same video as the

(32:26):
great Tom Brady. But it had nothing to do with that.
It was just that people's perspective, because when you're winning
and successful, you allowed to do those things because we
can understand why you do those things. But when you're
not successful and you do the same thing, then there's
there has to be a reason behind it. You're a
thug or you're you're just you're you're cry baby, you're
a winner, but you're doing the same thing another person

(32:48):
is doing that successful and everything doesn't add up. That's
similar to what you're saying about the Seahawks right now.
It was the same thing that you said earlier about
Cam Newton, and you know him being succel as a
quarterback when they're winning, he's a successful he's good, he's
doing this, this, this, and this right. But he could
do the same thing and they could be losing and
it'll be a different conversation. I would say this in

(33:10):
regards in regards to O b J. Look, I didn't
like the video and I'll tell you why. Like they're
a wide receiver and quarterback, completely different positions of leadership.
Plus what give me the things that Tom Brady has
done to bring attention negative attention to himself or to
his team, as opposed to Odell Beckham Jr. Who's arguably
who he did the he did the he got in

(33:31):
the fight he got Josh Dorman got in his head
and he got into a fight and got himself suspended.
Right He's had so he's had that kind of ongoing
issue he had. He had the deal with the with
the kicking net. Right then he scores a touchdown and
does the the p on the goal post be on
the goal, which is just it was just dumb. More
than I didn't think there's anything sinister. He had the
Remember they go down the boat the week before they're

(33:52):
playing in the playoffs, which I don't care about, but
if you're going to go on a boat the week
for the playoffs, you better be played well when you
play in the playoffs, and they did not. So if
you can go and find the things that Tom Brady
has done to bring negative attention to himself or to
his team. Then yeah, I can see a correlation between
him O O. B J yelling at dudes in the
sideline as opposed to Tom Brady yelling at dudes in

(34:13):
the sideline. So there is in fact a difference between
the two. Oh so because he has a troubled past,
you know, he doesn't gift, he doesn't get the he
doesn't get that. Oh he's changed. He's just going back
to his old ways. Probably it wasn't passed, it was
this year, and it's not a troubled past. Like look,
O b J. Is he's the classic super talented wide receiver.

(34:36):
No one's disputing the fact he's a freak talent D'Angelo,
but he super talented wide receivers generally are look at me, dudes.
I mean no, Look, he wants to be the highest
paid player on Earth. Hey he does, and he's the
probably the best wide receiver in the game. But all
these things have taken away from his team, either ke
Kim causing him to be suspension suspended, causing his coach

(34:57):
to have to answer questions about him, causing a distraction
within the team. Like you can like him and still
be real with who he is. I don't think it's
a trouble past. I don't think it's necessarily trouble. It's
just nonsense that's look at me instead of making the
team better. Whereas Brady has been a team guy, has
been a winner, and yeah he yells at Josh McDaniels
and yeah, then he apologizes and brings it back. But

(35:18):
there isn't the other nonsense that O. B J has
brought into this stage in his career. So so with
that being said, it would be safe for me to
compare O. B J to Grow in terms of bringing
negativity to correlation. Yeah, that would be That would be
a better comparison, absolutely. Okay, that's all I'm just trying

(35:40):
to make sure of because this is the issue that
I have with a lot of people, and these are
fans that watch it the like they okay things when
people have great careers and a great football players. But
then the guys that don't have those okay careers. I'll
give you a case in point. Grow is the same
person as Johnny Manzella when comes of what he did

(36:00):
in the National Football League. He parted, all the time,
he drank, he did all that outside of the domestic violence,
like him and Gronk was the same person. Come on,
come on the party, Come on, man, come on, like
you don't think so? No, are you serious right now? Like, no,
he didn't, Gronk didn't. Gron has never gotten suspended for
for drug use. Okay, Gronk didn't show up late to

(36:22):
to two games and practices, did do those things, and
and and you know this, D'Angelo. It's different when you're
a quarterback than when you're when you're a tight end.
It just is the different you have to have. You
have to have because it's a position of leadership. It's
because of different now position, it's not like, come on, man,
it's not you know, it's not. You know that in

(36:44):
every locker room you've been in that the quarterback is
held to a higher standard. Correct. Correct, Okay, correct, that's
that's my that's there. There, there's there's the now. So
so you can't compare Menzel to Gronk because the positions
are different, and Gronk has never been suspended for any
of the the You don't think that's it. You don't
think that's a compound pot because of the position. Check
because at the end of the day. We're all football

(37:05):
players and we should all be held to the same standard.
But that's not the reality. That's not the reality of it.
It's not not the reality of it. Plus, he had
a predetermined reputation coming in and he lived. He lived
down to it, if you will, right, and so all right, look,
we gotta run. Huh, we we gotta run. I understand why.

(37:25):
I understand what you're saying, but I actually think you're
contradicting yourself within what you're saying. Really, that's that's unbelievable.
I can't wait to have revisit this discussion next monment.
We will, we will possibly do so, although we got
Patriots and Steelers next week. We'll probably talking about that
a ton great stuff, Dangel, thanks for joining us like
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game time fire from the Doug Gottlieb Show. All right,
Dan Buyer reads the stories. I react in what's the game?
And the game is big deal, little deal, no deal? Okay,
big deal, little deal or no deal. That the Packers

(38:50):
are seven and six after an overtime went against the Browns,
just a game back of the final wild card in
the NFC, and now Aaron Rodgers can return this weekend
against the Carolina Panthers. Uh, that's a big deal. I
felt like with all of the injuries yesterday, especially the
one to Carson wentz Um, it just opened up for

(39:12):
the Cowboys and the Packers. Cowboys is gonna get Zegilia back,
and the Packers are gonna get Aaron Rodgers back. And
those are the two teams that are gonna go to
the NFC Championship Game. I like Jared Goff, but remember,
as good as the Rams are and as healthy as
the Rams are, they lost their quarterback yesterday looked like
a torn Achilles tennant and um, you know they lost
to the Vikings, and lost to the Seahawks, and they

(39:32):
lost to the who they play yesterday, the Eagles. Those
are three playoff teams. There's your ceiling. Those your ceiling.
You lose all those three teams at home, it shows
just how good you are. They're ahead of schedule. They're
not the best team in the NFC Cowboys, Packers NFC
Championship games. They don't match up beforehand. I'm about a
college basketball no big deal, little deal or no deal,
Doug that Arizona State moved up eleven spots in the

(39:55):
latest Top twenty five poll, now ranked fifth in the country,
with Villanova being the new number one. Would I have
my Top five coming out on on Fox Sports Digital tomorrow,
I will tell you that I'll have Villanova number one.
Villanova looks like the best team in the country. They
throttled Gonzaga, made Gonzaga look like an average team, and
Gonzaga is not an average team. But based upon quality

(40:17):
of win Xavier, Kansas on the Road, UH St John's
in the same week as Kansas on the Road, Arizona
State is deserving of the number one ranking in the country.
I got some issues with some other rankings, which to
State way too high, especially uh without their returning leading
scorer from last year. But Arizona State for real and
Nova should rightfully be the number one team in the country.

(40:42):
This is game time on The Duck Godli Show, teams
remind you of somebody else, right, Like the Jacksonville Jaguars
kind of remind you a little bit of really good
Ravens clubs with the defense, the running game, and the quarterback.
Like I'll tell you who the Seahawks remind me of

(41:03):
that's up coming next In The Doug Gotlip Show, Fox
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So much to get to today? On The Doug Gottlieb Show,
so much gotta get after it? Do you guys watch
law football. Yesterday I did. It was weird. You know,
it's like a good hoops weekend, not great, but because

(41:24):
there's no college football, Like, what do I do my
Saturday Sunday? Was? I thought? Awesome? Um? Was I the
only one who could not take my eyes off the
game in Buffalo By Or you're from Wisconsin, you played
uh football growing up, played high school football. We've talked
about this, and I was just wondering, Um, had you

(41:45):
ever played a game in that type of snow? No,
we didn't play that late in the season. We were
usually eliminated by the time that snow came. But it's
also Wisconsin though, Like I'm not I'm not trying to
like sometimes in Wisconsin you get an October snow, you know, yes, absolutely,
absolut lutely the end. Sometimes on the lake. I was
more inland, but heck and manits Walkers. Boy. Again, you

(42:06):
could get some get some storms, but nothing like what
that was. Maybe playing out with your friends like you
would in January and stuff like that, sure, but nothing
in an organized game where I mean it was it
was amazing yesterday that was awesome like it was and
and like people were freaking out. I don't know if
you were on Twitter watching the game, but when the

(42:28):
Bills punted in overtime with like four or three to go,
but like, what are you doing? Are they planning for
a tie? Like? What did you think the culture gonna
move the football? Like they're gonna the ball back? How
about the how about the extra point that Minitary kicks
where it's going wide right and the Bills start celebrating,
and then all of a sudden, it looks back and
goes through the gold Boys, Like, oh my god, that

(42:50):
just happen. That's the kind of thing I've only seen
in a video game before. I've only seen that in
Madden where you kick it to the right and I'll
sudden it blows it back to the left. What about you,
um music, did you watch? Do you watch that game?
It was? It was I can't turn off my man,
Sparrowdidas called the game, and I was just thinking about
about the twenty four hours in the life of Spiro,

(43:11):
who lives in Manhattan Beach, Like going from that game
in Buffalo to being at home in Manhattan Beach. I'm
sure sometime either last night or or early today right
from that and like if you have been following, obviously
you've had the fires in southern California, but we've also
had spectacular weather. It was like eighty five yesterday at
the beach. It was incredible. Um, but I'm not wrong

(43:32):
Ryan to the to point out like it was that
I can't. I can't believe I'm watching the Bills and
the Colts in December in a game that means nothing,
and I can't take my eyes off. No. I mean
it's my girlfriend when we were watching it, She's going,
why are they playing? They should just cancel the game?
That looks stupid? And I was like, it's I don't know,
it's fun. Like do I want every single NFL game

(43:54):
to play out that way? Like no, that would get old.
But when you have those one too, maybe even three
snow games a year, and they're just like the Lashawn
McCoy game winning touchdown, You're like, Oh my gosh, is
he actually gonna get in or someone gonna catch him
from behind because he's running so slow. I loved it.
I thought it was. I thought it was. I thought
it was I thought the whole thing was amazing. I thought,
I look, udos, CBS, they had a really good weekend.

(44:16):
If you saw the the tease for Army Navy, I
tuned out. It was great TV. Uh. A friend of mine,
Steve Karasik, is in charge of that. Uh. It was
great TV. And they had Snow at that game. Something
about snow. It was like, I can't stop watching it, right,
like wind, No, thanks, Snow? All right? It was awesome.
The great thing about the Bills Colts game truly was

(44:39):
and I put this out on Twitter, it was a
chess match in the sense of one play was gonna
change what was gonna happen for the next three drives,
Like if you got if you got a first down
on an eight yard run, you have now changed field
position and it changed everything. Otherwise it could have just
been a whole series of three and ounce and you're

(45:00):
having a punting contest. But one big play was changing
stuff for the next ten minutes because it was so
so difficult to move the ball. Ramos, how much you
did you watch it? We're just waiting for your Rams game,
just waiting for the Rams game. I was watching the
highlights on the game before that, whatever it was, and
then you watched and then the Rams game was a
great watch, really competitive two really good teams. And then
Carson Wentz tears is a c l and like, look,

(45:24):
I don't care who you are a fan of. You
had to light the Carson Wentz story. Never was like Wow,
this guy is amazing, and they're like, wait, he got
hurt too. It's uh it it uh boy? It was.
It was. It was tough to watch Carson Wentz walking
out the feld, like did he really just hurt his knee? Like,
even as a Rams fan, you kind of felt for

(45:46):
Carson Wentz, didn't you. Yeah. I knew he was the
minute I saw that play. I said that guy's hurts
with a group text all of us because he said
that the game was over, Rams are gonna win him. Then,
Nick Foles, I don't think I said that. Let's go
to the let's go to the text. Doug, do you
remember the text from I do. I don't get many
group texts from all of us. Uh. That really wasn't

(46:09):
my point of the text. The point was about running quarterback.
Who was the one who put who said good job dad?
That was me to you say, because you you talked
to your son Hayes about hey, don't run, you'll run.
Don't run. Uh, don't run. It's like listen, Like quarterbacks,
you need to think. It's like when you see a
bear in the woods, right, what they tell you to

(46:31):
bear like, don't run like dead, like just just lay
there and play dead. Same thing with a mean dog, like,
don't run because then they're gonna chase after you. The
same thing at quarterback in the in the National Football League,
all right, there was a bunch of good watches. Cam
Newton's move on the sixty five was seven yard run.
That was incredible. Um, there was some remarkable places that

(46:53):
Eagles rams game. The end of the Seahawks game could
have been worse than the Malice at the Palace could
have been. Could have been. Quentin Jefferson got ejected, a
bunch of Seahawks got ejected. Here here's what it looked
like watching on TV. I can't tell you I watched
the entire game. I can't tell you that Blake Bortles

(47:14):
played pretty darn well again second week and played pretty well.
The Jags got so tight they nearly choked that thing away.
But it's basically Russell Wilson trying to throw the ball deep,
and it worked a couple of times to get them
back in contention to win the game, but the Seahawks punt.

(47:34):
The Jaguars get it. All they need is one first
down to win the game. They get the first down,
handing it to Leonard Fournette who goes off tackle to
the left hand side, and after that it just got
really really ugly, bunch of cheap shots, bunch of fights,
and it it felt like it felt a lot like
when the Pistons were beaten by the Bulls and Isaiah

(47:55):
Thomas led them to duck their heads and walk off
the court. It felt like it felt like the Celtics
a couple of years ago when they knew they weren't
championship contenders and they started trying to fight everybody. With
Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce and Rondo, they try to
start trying to fight everybody. If you can't beat him,

(48:15):
fight him. This is this happened to me when I
was the day before my first day of high school.
I grew up playing at a park, Miles Square Park
in Fountain Valley, California. Milescart Park is a square mile.
It has just about everything you can think of. It's
got a golf course, you know, public golf course whatever.

(48:37):
It's got a little gym and community center. It's got
all kinds of like anything you think of, all in
this regional park and on that Brookhurst. I think it's
on Brookhurst, which is in between the four or five
and two. If you ever in southern cat Orange County,
like you go there on a Saturday morning and there
are games. There's nine outdoor courts. Uh, maybe six, I'm

(48:58):
trying to think of. There's three rows of him. I
can't remember their two or their three. Anyway, my dad
used to bring me there like seven thirty in the morning.
Early crew was there and he'd called game for me
and I get in the game, and then he watched
me play a little bit and then he'd go and
do some stuff and like he leave me five bucks.
I go across the street and get a coke and
a piece of pizza, and I come back and I

(49:20):
put the lunch group, and then I go back and
I get a gay rady. I play with the afternoon group.
They're like three different groups. And I did this like
from probably seventh eighth grade on up through high school.
That's where I played pick up Basketball's where you learned
to play. And my dad would can pick me up
at either noon or at three or four o'clock whatever.
And one time I was playing right before I was
entering high school, and I was a pretty good little player.

(49:41):
I was playing against gun named Joe Small, who was
a good player at cal State Forton, and I caught
a heater and I was lightening him up. And here
I am, like a high school freshman. I'm fifteen years
old and I'm lightening up a guy who's playing in college.
He's like nineteen years old, and his guys are talking
trash to him because little white kids lighten them up.

(50:03):
And he drives in the lane on me and purposely
like throws a bow while clearing out space for himself
to lay it in like a blood like everywhere you
go back and look at my high school freshman photo,
like I have a big nose, not disputing that some
of it is God given, some of it is basketball given.
It was especially large because I had freshman pictures the

(50:25):
very next day. And my dad told me something then
which I know to beach ruined sports, which is the
kid beat you, they'll want to fight you. And that's
what happened with the Seahawks yesterday and Look, this is
they've always operated fast and loose. They've always operated us
against the world. They've all always operated kind of that
and dominic consume mentality, which is like, you know what,

(50:46):
it's not bad if you're a little bit scared of us,
you think we're a little bit dirty. Here's Pete Carroll
on how the game ended, truly unfortunately how it ends,
you know, with everybody getting scrapping and all that at
the end, because we had a chance gets the ball
back and uh, unfortunate we weren't able to work that
out properly. Um, and we have to be we have
to be more poisoned than that. You gotta be more

(51:07):
poised than that. But he look, this is who is
how Pete Carroll operates now, right. He's not calling out
guys individually, he's never taking and he's definitely you know,
sometimes he'll take the blame more than the players should. Blood. Now,
Quentin Jefferson was the player who he wasn't the only
Seahawk injected. He was walking off the field. Some people
were yelling at him. He could have just walked away. Instead,

(51:28):
he turns around and threatens to come up. And as
he threatens to come up. Somebody threw her hurld a
beer at him. Now he gets really mad. Now he
starts trying to climb up in there. That's a good idea, right,
that's gonna And I'm just thinking this is gonna end. Well, Uh,
some security guy horse collars and pulls him down in
another beer comes his way. Here's Jefferson, what I'm supposed
to do. Like, I'm a human just like anybody else

(51:49):
I'm not. I'm a man, just like how the man
in his stance and unless myody disrespect him to throw
a beer on me, like just because I'm playing football,
I'm still human beings. Still the man, dude, get up
the field, Get off the field. What are you supposed
to do? You're supposed to leave the football stadium. You're
supposed to go in the locker room, take your helmet,

(52:10):
shoulder pads off, take a shower, cool off, answer questions,
getting a plane, fly home to your wife and your kids.
It doesn't make what they've said, what they say to you,
are throwing a beer at you the right thing I
am not in any way, especially like look, I can
tell you Jaguar fans act like you've been there before.
But they'd have to act like they've been there before
because they ain't been there before. Look, I continue every

(52:33):
anytime I've ever been to an NFL game, team times
I watched NFL games, I just continue to think, why
would anybody take my their family to an NFL game?
It you would think they price the lowest common denominator
out of the market, But they haven't. They haven't. He

(52:54):
fights in the stands, Dude smoking weed in the stands,
Guys just so plowed drunk, the candidates like we see
video every week of this. Sadly, those are the people
who will attend an NFL game. It doesn't make you
any less of a man to simply walk into the
locker room, take off your helmet and shoulder pads, and

(53:16):
get ready for the trip. Homema, man, And what I
was supposed to do. You were walking away and then
somebody said something and it got you all mad, and
you stopped and you turned around, like, don't make actly.
You don't hear him. They paid to watch you play.
You already won already one. It's no different than on Twitter.

(53:42):
The mute button. All right, my man, Seth Davis calls
it squashing ants. The mute button. You have to respond
to some hater on Twitter. You don't have to respond
to some hater in the stands. They paid to watch
you play. That makes you any less a man to
walk away and walk into the locker room, and had
he simply done that, they wanted to throw the Beers.

(54:04):
Hall of Famer and former Viking John Randol joins the shell.
Ask him if he's worried about the Vikings after their
injuries and their loss to the Carolina Panthers. That's up
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Doug Otli Show, Fox Sports Radio. Everybody's heart in the NFL, right,
and like Vikings fans, they don't feel bad, like, look,
we had we had Sam Bradford really for one game,
right And last year what you saw yesterday from the
Vikings was like last year from the Vikings, where just
a depleted offensive line and you almost have uh, you
almost have no hope. Vikings could well end up with

(55:53):
the number two seed. Uh. They could have the chance
obviously to play for a super Bowl in their hometo down,
but they got some issues with injuries and lost to
Alvin Cook los angerad for now, the offensive line is
to play and they got beaten yesterday by the Carolina Panthers.
Who can give us better perspective than one of the
all time great Vikings, A guy who you will see

(56:14):
the premiere of a Football life on his life, John
Randall al of Amber joins us on the doug out
the Show, John, how are you good? How are you doing?
Good man? Before I get to the current advice, Um,
what's it like to have a movie about your about
your life, about your football life. It's unbelievable, you know. Um,

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I'm just I'm almost like, uhlawful words, because you know,
I'm a small care from Texas and uh small town.
I'm in a fifty people and all of a sudden
have someone say that they're gonna do a story about
your life. It's just it's almost sometimes feels like it's
it's it's a joke or something. Yeah, I mean, especially

(56:57):
when you started at Trinity Valley college. And then you
went to Texan M. Kingsville. Like you didn't get a
big Texas sanm and college station. You went to Texan M. Kingsville.
How did you go from a guy that everybody missed
on to becoming a Hall of Famer? Well, you know,
coming into the National Football League, I was undersized. I
was only about two and and they got here. I

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got to Minnesota, they said that I needed to gain
some weight, and uh, but it wasn't and they wanted
me to gain weight in about a month or two,
and I knew I wasn't gonna gain about game ten
pounds that quickly. So uh, they had me kind of
playing special teams and just trying to build up my side.
And it's just I was only six too, and everybody

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wanted me to play linebacker. And I can remember my
brother was playing down at Tampa and even at me
told me that they were going to they wanted to
give me a chance to make the Tampa roster and
I told him, no way, I can know. I'm a
defense in linement. I belong at the beef some line positions.
And I remember flying to Minnesota at eight o'clock at night. Uh,

(58:07):
it was snowing in Minnesota, and I didn't know anybody,
not uh maybe one scout who had looked at me.
But I didn't realize that the scout it was blowing
me a budget about to smoke up my butt because
he told me you got a better a really good
chance of making Minnesota. So but later on I found
out they were only bringing me in for it for

(58:27):
extra reps for for a week or two. Then they
were going to release me. But I came in and
really surprised a lot of people because my heart work
is what I performed a lot of the other defense Linema.
One of the things I think people are gonna learn
about your football life they don't remember from when you're
inducted in the Hall of Fame is you didn't grow
up like normal, Like you didn't grow up playing football

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every day, like going to trainers Like no, no, no,
you're up super poor working out. What's the what's the
oddest job you worked as a kid. Oh my god,
I had a job topping cot with my mom for
two dollars an hour. I've had jobs. I did one.
I was a janitor, I waxed floors. I had a

(59:11):
job building scaffolds, a mos mons. I've had a job
picking watermelons out of fields. I heard most a lot
of weird country job that most people would have passed over,
But I knew we needed the money, and so I
took him. In the summertime. I took those jobs and uh,

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you know, made the most out of it, made the
most out of it. Um, when was the first time
you put the eye black on? Because for those of
us who remember your you know, your consistent dominance in
the backfield, sacking quarterbacks double digit sacks almost every year. Uh,
you would you know you would have like the kind
of the eye the eye black. Uh, I can't, It's
not like Batman. I'm trying to how would you what's

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it called? What was the design called? And when did
you first do it? It was kind of like it
just we we started out just kind of rubbing it
on its eyes, and because I was rubbing it undeath
my eyes, my teammates were doing some military type stuff
across their face, and I just started rubbing it undeath
my eyes and it kind of rubbed down undeath my
cheeks and almost like a triangle waste, and uh, it

(01:00:17):
just started kind of growing after that well, I started
putting more and more, and uh it just helped me
get in the right frame of mind for game day.
And but we started doing about about many five six
season and uh just kept doing every game. John Randall

(01:00:38):
joining us the Hall of Famer, of course a member
of some of those great, uh great vikings seemed the
best of which was the ninety eight team. And um,
you know, the ninety eight team playing at home in
the in the humph Freedome, and of course you know
your you know, your field goal kicker hadn't missed a
field goal the entire season, the entire season, and then

(01:01:01):
Morten Anderson misses one that would have won you the game,
Gary Anderson, Sorry I got the wrong Anderson. Gary Anderson
miss fieldal would have won you the game against um
against the Atlanta Falcons. How much of all the things
you've accomplished, how much does that game come back up
in your memories when you think about your football career,
That's probally one that comes up the most because that

(01:01:24):
was that season. It seemed like the season was so short.
It seemed like a short season, and everything just seemed
to just to go into place. We were everybody was
just was was staying healthy. Everybody was was together, everybody
was focused on in one goal of getting to the
super Bowl. And we just knew it. I mean, even

(01:01:46):
when we lost the Tampa we still knew, like, you
know what, Okay, that's behind us. We still know we're
going to get to the super Bowl, and we just
continued to just keep doing it. End up, It's just
it was one of those scenes where it's just I mean,
everybody would listen to that song from Will Smith about

(01:02:08):
going to Miami and we always just, man, it was
just such a that's it's something that comes up like
something somebody would say something, but hey, you remember, and
I'll go do I eight? Of course I do? You know,
so it's always recurring in my mind. Something sticks in there.

(01:02:29):
It's it's one of those games that if I could
replay a game, that would be the one game that
I would like to replay. You know. The sad thing is,
you guys are fifteen one that your people don't remember
Randy Moss just coming into his prime, Chris Carter, of course,
you had Robert Smith, Randold Cunningham had a resurgent. You're
Brian Bilk's your offensive cording your defense was sick. Offense
was awesome. Playing at home Dome, you couldn't hear so

(01:02:51):
guys like yourself on that fast, artificial turf. You had
a great get off and it was it was a
great football team. Anyways, You guys were the best team
in football. You just came up one field goal short. Really, um,
I bring that up because there are Viking fans that
think they're forever cursed. And Bradford gets hurt, they survive,
Dalvin Cook gets hurt, they survive. How much caution should

(01:03:14):
we throw into the wind with the injuries on that
offensive line and how they looked yesterday, Well, yeah, that
offensive line. I mean, that's that's the key to any team,
is that offensive line. But if you if you look
at it of a quarterback getting hurt, I mean, if
you look at the past two Super Bowl teams that
have done that, I mean, you look back at St.

(01:03:35):
Louis Rams doing that, you look at the uh the
New England patients with Tom Brady. I mean, it's one
guy's injury, it's the next guy's opportunity. So yeah, in football,
there will be injuries, but it's always about the next
guy stepping up and and and doing his job. And uh,

(01:03:56):
but you know it's people try to always try to
reflect U on the injuries and all this not like
but you know, like I said, it's always about the
next guy's stepping up myself. And I looked at when
when Keith Millard got hurt and Dennis Green telling me
I was the next man up, And it's always the

(01:04:16):
next guy's opportunity. But that next guy's got to realize
that with this opportunity you can't be afraid of You've
got to step in those shoes and and fill those
shoes the way in in your way, not this way,
but player the way that you play it. And that's
the way that I always look at when when a
guy gets injured and I've played on the most matina

(01:04:36):
of the guys I've gotten injured, and the guy goes, well,
I I can't play like him, And I go, You're
not supposed to play it like him. You're supposed to
play it like you like you are. And that's the
one thing that if I can tell any guy who's
stepping up for the next player, play the way you
want to play, but when you play it playing hard
as you can. Yeah, they gotta get Pat Elfen back
at their center. Mike Grammer has been battling a back injury.

(01:04:58):
They get those guys back. I still think they've got
a great shot to make a run to being the
first home team ever to host Super Bowl. I know
we'll see a super awl week in the morning. Meantime,
I look forward to watching Football Life. That's this Friday,
nine o'clock Eastern time, NFL Network. It'll be the hundredth
episode of Football Life series in the series history, and
of course the focus on our guest, John Randall. John,
congrats in the football life and all your successes in

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Dan Buyer is gonna join us. I'm gonna get to

(01:05:40):
all the other stuff going on in Sports stand, but
it's I'm always fascinated by this. We we do have attence.
I was talking to a basketball coach on the way
to to work today and I was actually talking about
usc S team and I was like, I don't really
like right, like us either talented, but they're kind of selfish.
He's like, yeah, but you know, we always judge the
team unfortunately in the media, you guys. He's like, you guys,

(01:06:02):
because I'm part of the media, judging based upon what
they do in the tournament, not how good they actually are.
And I was like, well, it's not any different than
any other sport. Perfect example is that team that Vikings
team was the best in football. They just Gary Ander
Smiths one field goal year fifteen one at home had
a chance to it was a makeuple field goal I
think it was. Uh was from the twenty two yard line,

(01:06:25):
was two thirty, Like you know, you're talking about a
thirty nine yard field goal indoors is that's a chip
shot as they say? Um So, I do think we
have a tendency to I think so glowingly, so glowingly
about teams because of how they play in the playoffs
and not in totality of their season. Yeah, it's it's
it happens all the time. Heck, remember when Duke would

(01:06:47):
go to the Final four but wouldn't win it, Like,
oh gosh, Duke's in the final four again, they'll lose,
like even though they were making final four. Is this
is you know, prior to them breaking through one. But yeah,
even when you get to that, to that level, I mean,
we make fun of the Buffalo Bills. Four super Bowls,
four straight super bowl is pretty good. But how it
all ends is what we look at. Um. The Philadelphia Eagles,

(01:07:09):
having had a lot of success of the postseason, never
won a Super Bowl as a franchise, and now they're
gonna try to do it without the starting quarterback, Carson Wentz,
done for the season with a torn a c L
and his left nee. Nick Foles will be the team
starting quarterback for Sunday's game against the Giants. More quarterback
injury news, Jets quarterback Josh mccount out for the season
because of a broken hand. Well. Texans head coach Bill
O'Brien says that t J. Yates is likely to start

(01:07:31):
a quarterback this Sunday against the Jaguars in place of
Tom Savage, who suffered at concussion and yesterday's lost to
the forty nine. Now, the NFL and the NFL p
A are investigating if the Texans followed protocol head coach
Bill O'Brien on the concussion suffered by savage benefit of
seeing the video that people are seeing. I would have
never put him back in the game. But I don't
see that. I'm not passing the buck. I don't have

(01:07:52):
any Anybody that's been on a sideline of a football
game knows that from a coaching standpoint, you really can't
see things like that. That was Bill O'Brien earlier today.
Should shouldn't the o c the quarterback coach? Shouldn't somebody
be watching the I I completely understand that Bill O'Brien.
You know, if he says he couldn't see it, he
couldn't see it. I buy it. You know, you got

(01:08:14):
a headset on. He's also an offensive play caller. He's
sitting down there with a play chart. He's worried about
the next play. I got it. Do you mean tell
me no one saw that? Well, yeah, isn't. This is
the reason why people are in place. I mean, I mean,
aside from the fact that you would think that a
coach maybe would want a star player in the game
so they would keep them. But there's also a million
other things going on on the sideline. I just mean,

(01:08:34):
I just mean somebody up in the somebody up in
the box and watching watching the game. Like the second
you saw You're like, oh that that ain't good, right,
that ain't good? Yeah, you think so, I think so.
Didn't happen yesterday in Houston. ESPN is saying that the
Seahawks players involved in the scuffle at the end of
yesterday's game against the Jaguars are not going to face suspensions,

(01:08:57):
but still those players could get fines. In the National
Football League, Celtics car Kyrie Irving out tonight against the
Bulls with a quad injury, and Doug ESPN and The
Draft Express reporting that le Angelo and LaMelo Ball are
close to signing deals with a pro club in Lithuania.
Keep our eye on that. I'm gonna I'm gonna make
a prediction here. Okay, I don't know what club it

(01:09:19):
is in Lithuania. If they stick, it'll be great, But
the likelihood they stick is very, very slim. Okay. Lithuania
is to European basketball kind of what Indiana is to
uh to college. The state of Indiana is the college pass.
It is a basketball crazy country. But they they are physical,

(01:09:42):
they are psychotic in their work ethic, and they all
the way in which the ball boys have learned to
play that that you can't play that way. Um So, look,
it's a great idea. There's two good there's Litovas Rivas
and there's a Jagris. Those are the two best teams.
All the other teams. Shalloway is like the third best organization.

(01:10:04):
Um So, I don't know who it is this would
be is it? Is it pre new? But tautas is
that how you could pronounce it? Uh p r I
E n you. Yeah, that's not that's that's not a
that's not an elite level team. I means I can
see you real quick where they where they rank, where
their standings are, what division they're in. Um traditionally though

(01:10:24):
there are there there's two teams above all others in
in Lithuania and it's uh it's yell Grist which is
in Countess and and uh Litovas Rechis, which is also
in in Countas. Let's see here they are hold on,
Uh do do well? John plays Lithuanian fantasy basketball? He

(01:10:46):
would know, John, who do you like? They are four
and nine right now? They are in eighth place out
of ten teams. So that's what you do when you're
trying to get attention, you know, you know you're trying
to Um, let's see here, Yeah, so will they just
lost by two two? Shoot? Um? Look I I I

(01:11:09):
played in Russia and we played against the teams in Lithuania.
We actually trained in Lithuania, in Clipida, Lithuania for like
three well, we stayed there for like three weeks training
beautiful right along the water. It's a very clean country.
They love basketball there and but Lithuanians are crazy with
their work ethic like nothing you've ever seen before. Crazy competitive,

(01:11:30):
very very physical. Like you it would be good like
if the dad stays away and they just go and play.
But I don't see how they play and help the
team win when they're that young. You just don't. Yes. Uh.
Jonathan Givoni of The Draft Express sort of did this
story with Adrian Wnarowski. Some of the tweets he's putting
out is that their main team is in the l

(01:11:53):
k L, but they probably wouldn't actually see time with that.
They would rather see time in the Baltic League, which
would be sort of like yeah, exactly, So they're not
expected to even play with the top team. He also
went on to say that usually even in the best
case scenario, they're not expected to get more than five
dollars a month. That's the absolute best case, and he
wouldn't be surprised at all if they end up actually

(01:12:14):
playing for free just as a way of exposure, since
it's their only option. But look, if they I mean,
if if the dad stays away and they just get coached,
like legit coached, it's it's a win, it's a win.
It can it can help you. I mean this, But
if they're if if the dad gets involved, or if

(01:12:34):
the kids don't buy in, like that's a hard lifestyle.
When you're everybody says like, man, I'll just go to Europe,
Like all right, I've I've played in Europe. I played
in France, I played in Russia, I played in Israel.
And it's easier now than it was then. We did
have internet. Then all that was dial up internet. We
didn't have face time, we didn't have the ability to commute.
But it's just different, different you eating different foods, even

(01:12:56):
if you go like you start eating McDonald's, did you
never ate state side? You because You're like, I just
search for something American. It's a great maturing and growing experience,
but it is definitely different. Doug, how much do you
think all of that not play for free over there
by the way, nothing nothing just for the exposure. Nothing

(01:13:18):
for five wasn't and nineteen? You know, how much is
this LaVar with everything that Lavarre has done? How much
is this him knowing that Alonzo is the best of
the three, will max out better than the the of
all the three and knowing that his time is now

(01:13:40):
like like is with everything that he has done with
the pulling out because this can only go on so long, right,
I mean, Alonzo ball in eight years is probably gonna
be a good and has that that that chance? Again
we're talking LaVar ball. They're just print now like look like,

(01:14:01):
uh mellow is a score a Lonzo is a passer.
But I think he thinks that LaMelo has a chance
to be something special. Um, I'll say this about LaMelo, like, look,
his game needs a ton of work, but his body,
his body needs a ton of work. Like he needs
to go and now let's winny. They do train, they
do lift hard, like this could be a really good
thing for him. I just well, I don't know if

(01:14:23):
they make it. It's kind of like can you make
it through? Like it's like people say, like you don't
want to do I want to go train with the
Navy Seals. Like, listen, that sounds like a great idea,
was it? John Candy and Stripes said, John, what you
got like a six week training program? Lea mean fighting machine?
All right? Sounds like sounds great when you say it.

(01:14:45):
Then all of a sudden they got you up at
uh three in the morning, you know, carrying guys out
of the water, and you're like, man, I don't I
ain't cut out for this. I'm gonna ring that bell
and go home. Skip Bayless thinks Ben Roethlisberg and Antonio
Brown are the best deep threat since Montana and Moss. Yeah,
Montana and Rice, it was deep. The best deep threat

(01:15:09):
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don't like silver bells? How have I not heard Christmas
in Hollis yet? Run d run DMC. I'm saving that
for I'm I'm I'm off. You guys know what I'm doing,
sitting in for somebody. I know that I'm doing the
first things first, actually going to miss Christmas morning at
home in my house. Ah. But I mean, like, look,

(01:15:57):
we'll discuss off. I have. I have three kids, but
only one to which they're all they all like Christmas morning,
but one to which Christmas morning has a high level
of belief and important. You know what I mean. My
wife is like freaking out, like you're going to New
York for Christmas, Like, I'll be back that afternoon, but
you're gonna miss Christmas morning Like they don't care honestly,

(01:16:20):
like Christmas morning when you're a dad in their opening presence,
that's a lot. Like uh, that's a lot Like when
your wife goes into labor right, like your work is done.
Your work was done nine months ago. My work was
done when the shopping was done. And now here's what
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(01:16:41):
a show you can hear earlier on Fox Sports Radio,
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it on Serious XM Channel eight three. Skip had this
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(01:17:04):
back last night. You know how much I love me
some Tom Brady, and I thought at the end of
the game, Tom Brady is gonna have a hard time
winning that game next week, next Sunday at Pittsburgh. I
just think it's set up now. Remember Brady has to
play tonight against it a division rival, used to be
an arch rival. It's a hard game for them at

(01:17:24):
Miami Monday night, traveled back to Foxborough and then have
to travel on a short week to Pittsburgh. It should
be big advantage Pittsburgh. I hear all the negatives, but
I'm looking at their glasses half full, because as perplexing
as they've been all year, I don't think since Montana
to Rice, I've seen a more lethal deep threat combination

(01:17:48):
than Ben Roethlisberger to Antonio Brown. I got to I
was just spell bound by it. I just sat back
last night and said, you're kidding. They just did it
again to a team that knows them as well as
that team knows anybody. Uh, yeah, they did. But I
would also tell you that the Ravens ran up and
down the field on the Pittsburgh Steels. And some of

(01:18:10):
it is carry over from the short week preparation playing
against since Santi Bengals, somebody is not having Ryan chaseier
Um and somebody is the familiarity. But like and I
think it is a hard game for the Patriots. I'm
not disputing that hard game in the and you'll get
the the absolute best that the Steelers have. The Chasi

(01:18:30):
Er injury is that big a deal. It just is
and should also be pointed out that while they're playing
against the Dolphins, the Dolphins stink. They're just not very good.
And if i'm if I'm Bill Belichick, I try and
get a lead and get Tom Brady the hell out
of the game for the fourth quarter. But a lot
of us are looking at this as this is the

(01:18:52):
deciding game as to this upcoming Sunday night as to
who gets or assuming Sunday afternoon, as to who gets
home field advantag shout the playoffs as they're looking at.
But it should be pointing out that the Patriots have
the Bills and the Jets in their last two games
of the year, both at home. Those are two wins.

(01:19:12):
The Steelers have the Texans and the Browns also should
be two wins. But I'm not suretain matters as much
when you don't have Ryan Shay's ear. I just I
think that's a crippling injury for them, even if the
rest of the you know you, you gotta figure that
the Chargers are gonna be around. Like the Chargers have
shown Philip represents showing the ability long time ago to

(01:19:35):
go into Indie and getting to win. The Chargers every
game they play is essentially a road game. Hell toughest
road game in the season is going to be the
Chargers playing at home against the Raiders on the thirty
one December. That'll be a road game. So I think
the Steelers do. I think Antonio Brown and Ben Roethlisberger
are great. I do. I don't think Rothsburger is anywhere
near his peak. He's not a He's not a great

(01:19:56):
quarterback in any aspect. He's He's good, not great, and
I don't think it necessarily matters because without Ryan Jays here,
I don't believe the Pittsburgh Steers can't get by the
Patriots in the playoffs. Say do do Do Do Do
Do Do Do Do Do do do too. Oh what
a great weekend watching football. Um you know, we haven't

(01:20:18):
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Um boy, So the conversation kind of went like this, honey,
what do you think about Christmas Eve? Great Christmas Day?
And she's like really, I was like yeah, yeah, And

(01:21:02):
then she's like can I go, Like now you gotta
stay with the kids, Like I'll eased to leave them,
Just leave them and then when they wake up they
opened presents, they won't even know him gone. Actually, not
that inaccurate it's like forty five. They're like, Hey, where's mom,
Where's Dad? If I was a guide, come back at
like three o'clock Land from New York, Come on in.

(01:21:24):
He used to be watching uh teen Titans go. One
of the girls to be on the computer, the other
one'll be playing with their Christmas presents. Just rappers everywhere
you leave enough cheerios and rice crispies, not treats, just
rice crispies at my house and popcorn, and they'll be
good for days. They could live on that stuff. Yeah,
the no Odi would be fed. The problem was Odi

(01:21:46):
would and my daughter one daughter would take him to
the little park by our house. Nobody would take him
for a big run the way I'd take him for
every day. He'd be like, who's taking me to get coffee?
I told you Friday. There are two teams to watch
out for the NFC now. I think they're in pole position,
even though they'll be wild card teams. That's next. What up,
Doug ot Leave show, Fox Sports Radio. I hope you

(01:22:07):
had a great weekend. I hope you're ready for the
last couple of weeks before Christmas. Last couple of weeks
for Christmas. Then you got New Year's then we got
New Year's Day, College football playoff, NFL Playoffs, Super Bowl, Yes, yes, yeah,

(01:22:28):
huh yeah yeah. So a lot took place yesterday. Sure,
the Eagles came into the Rams House and beat the Rams.
Right win for the Eagles, especially considering the injury to
Carson Wentz. Carolina Panthers beat the Minnesota Vikings. Vikings have
a depleted offensive line, the one that should be healthy
by playoff time. Big win for the Panthers. We like, Look,

(01:22:53):
does anybody take the Saints seriously in terms of being
a Super Bowl threat? Because they gotta win outside their building.
That's not happening. Seahawks are shelve their former self and
they lost to the Jacksonville Jaguars. I watch and I'm
sitting there going, you know, Friday, I get a lot
of predictions wrong. Right, I'll get predictions wrong and when

(01:23:14):
I'll admit when I do. Um, But I believe Friday.
I said there are two dangerous teams that if things
break right for them, and using the term break right
could be bad considering one of the teams and what
they're going through injury rise. But if teams things break
right for them, they're the teams at least like the

(01:23:37):
face in the NFC right now. At the bottom end
of the playoffs would be the Atlanta Falcons and the
Seattle Seahawks. Seahawks, of course, are undefeated against their division,
putting them still in contention as they are one game
back with the l A Rams, and they have the
Rams in their building. This upcoming Sunday should be pointed

(01:24:02):
out that the Seahawks have the Rams that they have
to go to the Cowboys. Then they get the Cardinals,
who they've always struggled with at home. And the Cardinals,
as much as you like, well, they're not playing for anything.
Cardinals still hope is kind of alive, and they have
a tendency to play well when they don't have to
play well. Then you got the Atlanta Falcons, who are
in the NFC South. They have the Buccaneers who've been

(01:24:23):
eliminated from the playoff competition. They can't eat that debby anymore.
Then they go to the Saints. Thing to the Panthers.
Home to the Panthers. I told you Friday, Green May Packers,
Dallas Cowboys. Packers remaining games in Carolina against the Panthers
are game at home against the Vikings, hard game, but

(01:24:46):
not impossible. Remember the Vikings are in the playoffs already
at ten ten and three Vikings or virtual luck and
then on the road to the Lions. Not impossible. Um,
the process, as Mike McCarthy has said, is in full motion.
He has to get cleared by the medical expert. In

(01:25:08):
my mind, he's ready to go if you watch him process.
But this is a medical decision. Dr mackenzie is in
touch with a number of medical experts. The assumption is
Aaron Rodgers will be back, and if Aaron Rodgers back,
all bets are off Packers and Cowboys, Right doesn't that

(01:25:28):
seem like the two teams you'd least like to face.
And this is there is a reason that we don't
always pay attention to regular season UH standings, because who
you are in the playoffs is how healthy you are.
And though the Cowboys have been off injured with Shawn Lee,
uh Tyrann Smith has been out, they're both back. And

(01:25:49):
then you add Ezekiel Elliott back to the mix. I mean,
you know, by the way, did you see, um, do
you see that the Giants were able to take advantage
of the Landon Collins didn't play. They still beat the

(01:26:11):
beat the Giants third to the ten Raiders on the road,
Seahawks at home, Eagles on the road. The problem with
the the thing with the Eagles thing one, your Eagles
backup quarterback. In two you're probably playing a third string
quarterback when you play the Eagles Week seventeen, Dallas Cowboys
are gonna end up with at least nine, if not
ten wins, and a ten win Cowboy team is in

(01:26:33):
the playoffs. And a ten win Cowboy team with a
healthy Ezekie Elliott is a team to which you don't
want to play against, And a ten win Green Bay
Packer team with a healthy Aaron Rodgers is a team
you don't want to play against. I think Friday, I
told you the two teams to watch out for, the
Packers and the Cowboys, and I think so far that
stood up. Is that fair? That's fair? Mm hmm. Like

(01:27:02):
when a prediction comes out, right, I really do well,
he'll like him out, very happy with it. Ah. What
do you guys think of the Stanton trade music when
you saw it come down? Because remember when we left
here Friday he had rejected the Giants trade, and we're like, oh,
he wants to go to the Dodgers, and the Dodgers

(01:27:23):
wanted the Marlins to take on some bad contracts and
weren't willing to come off top prospects. The the Yankees
came off some prospects, and the Yankees took on almost
all of the salary except for thirty million dollars, but
they did not give him. They did not give Derek
Jeter their best prospect, so they kind of dumped him
to dump the contract, right, I suppose When I saw

(01:27:44):
the news break and you can get the update on
your phone or you're checking Twitter or whatever, and you
see that he ends up going to the Yankees, my
initial reaction is just like, oh, I mean, no surprise there, Like,
even though they weren't one of the reported teams that
was going to be favored for him to actually end
up going there, the fact that it ended up happening,
You're like, Okay, well that makes sense. That's like least

(01:28:05):
surprising thing, right exactly, Like, even though it was totally unreported,
it's not surprising that the Yankees somehow found themselves in
that situation, especially considering that Derek Cheaters the one called
the shots in Miami. Now the idea of the idea
of Aaron Judge and John Carlos Stanton and Gary Sanchez
in the same lineup, right, that's a remark. First of all,

(01:28:28):
Stanton and Judge, both former football players, both look like
former football players. Like they look like if you were
to if you were to talk about what the Yankees are, right,
just like create verbally create the image of what the
New York Yankees are, bigger than life, like everything is
bigger everything, very like Bronx Bombers, like those would be.
And by the way, they kind of look alike to right,

(01:28:52):
don't they They They they look like they could be
related in some way, cousins of some sort, cousins, uh
even maybe others. I mean they're both six six s
seven two forty two fifty to two hundred sixty two
seventy pounds, like they are gigantic but more nating. Nike
fit the image of the Yankees to a t to

(01:29:16):
a t it's it's insane that that's gonna be their lineup. Um,
not even to mention d de Gregorius, who had a
great tweet to see, uh so am I still batting fourth?
Skip right to Aaron Aaron Boone that's pretty good. Um. Also,
Aaron Judge had a great tweet where it said does

(01:29:38):
this mean we're does this mean we're best friends? Right?
It was from step Brothers, So they're good on Twitter. Um.
There there is one kind of side note there that
should be pointed out, like I hate to be Debbie
Downer guy, right, Like I don't want to be Debbie
Downer guy, but I will be debveror downer guy. They
are a They're going to be the consummate twenty one

(01:30:00):
century baseball team home runs and strikeouts. Um, John Carlos
Stanton only struck out a hundred sixty three times. Now,
while that sounds like a lot, and it is, Aaron
Judge struck out a hundred two hundred and two times
two two times. You combine that with Gary Sanchez and

(01:30:22):
Chase Headley. Sanchez struck out a hundred and twenty Headley
dred and thirty two. Brett Gardner struck out a hundred
and twenty two times. Like, there's gonna be some really
fast innings and some really long innings. God, just give
me a lot of strikeouts and a lot of home runs.
How good is batting practice gonna be? For the Yankees incredible,

(01:30:44):
incredible batting practice for the Inkles. So I think it's
good for baseball. You need a team to hate, they
they'll look like Yankees. Jeter trading to his old team
is just two. And I'll also point this out about
Derek Jeeter. Derrek cheaters are really good business man. But
Derrik Jeter will tell you, like I am not a
baseball guy, like I didn't go He never went home

(01:31:05):
and watch baseball on his day off. And so this
is gonna be a challenge to see if what he
got in return is appropriate value. Because he was Baseball
is not who he was. It was what he did
and he used it to create the financial empire that
helped him be a part of this ownership group. Alright,
coming up next, we'll take you to uh Philadelphia find

(01:31:27):
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We like to find guys who know more about stories
than we know about right. Like, look, I note because
I watch a bunch and I talked to a bunch,
But nobody knows stories like guys who work in the market.
They just know more about their teams. We don't know everything,
but we know people that know what you want to know.
You know, sounds like you need a guy. I got

(01:33:19):
a guy. Anthony Gargano joins us host the Morning Show
on and Philly six to ten am Eastern Time, also
Saturdays here on Fox Sports Radio, same time, alongside Lincoln Kennedy,
one of the great college football players. Man, I'll go
with Lincoln. Hey was awesome? Um, Anthony, Uh, Look, Philly

(01:33:43):
wins in l A like that's good. But the news
of Wentz tearing his a c L what's the general
reaction in Philadelphia? Dog the Great Stall the Super Bowl,
Dog the Great stall the super Bowl. It's over. Yeah,
I look, I love to disagree with you, but I can't.

(01:34:06):
It is a catastrophic event for a franchise that has
never want a super Bowl. That is Olay's the laughing
stock and Carter of New York Washington and go all
the way to Dallas in the division. This is a
catechstrophic event. The wonder King who was responsible for eleven

(01:34:32):
and two is gone, and this whole town has all
sharp objects, all belts, you name it, bridge watch. People
have to eat with sports now because it's over. Okay,
So look, I agree Wnce is awesome, um and and

(01:34:53):
falls after his first year with the with the Eagles
has been less than awesome. But the defense, especially the
front seven, has carried this team much of the year.
He's been great, but so too is the defense. And
just how big a falloff is They're losing Carson Wentz
and I'm not I'm not exaggerated. It's huge fall off

(01:35:14):
because look, they were fortunate to face a lot of
teams that did not have balanced offense. The front is
very good. The Eagle's defense in front is good. But
as you saw Sunday against the Rams, a balanced offense,
We'll move the ball because you saw what Todd Gurley did.
You know Sean mcveigy doesn't go away from the run
at times they might win the game. Yeah, I thought,

(01:35:37):
I thought, I thought. I thought Sean mcveigh's play calling
was was terrible, especially late in the game. When you
run the football, you win the game instead. He got
two cute exactly, And there in lies the problem for
the Eagles moving forward. They become an ultimately one dimensional team.
Their front is good, like I said, but the problem
on offense is you now have no speed. What Carson

(01:36:00):
Wentz did for him was he was a playmaker. He
was a guy teams at the spy. His escapability was
second to none. He in two years became the best
quarterback of franchise history. And that's the loss. It's the
Patriots without Brady, it's the Packers without Rogers, it's the

(01:36:22):
Eagles without Carson Wentz. Is that dramatic of a loss?
All right? So what should our expectations be? One and
done in the playoffs. They're going to get at least
they should get the bye because they have three They
have winnable games. They have the Giants, the Raiders, and

(01:36:43):
the Cowboys, So it should be enough for them to
hang on and get one of the pies. But I
can't see them unless the matchup is really, really favorable.
I just can't see to make it a run. And
this whole thing is has really shaken the city to
its core. This Doug, this kid has been such an

(01:37:06):
amazing godsend. He has done everything and trepass everyone's expectations.
His arm town, his escapability, his intelligence at the line.
You know, he's changed plays. He's a playmaker, and all
of a sudden, you take a playmaker out. I don't

(01:37:26):
know how you. I don't know how you're gonna be
a dynamic close to being a dynamic to be able
to go and escape a very good NFC conference. Yeah,
I mean, I guess. I guess. The one thing is
like you don't know if the Cowboy's gonna make the playoffs.
You don't know if the Packers are gonna make the
playoffs with Aaron Rodgers potentially returning, and maybe the Seahawks
make it, but there are a shell of their former selves,

(01:37:47):
like kind of you look around and you're like, Carolina
is okay, the Saints on the road. Nobody's buying into them.
I mean, you know, could they be the best of
what is a depleted NFC? You know, I don't know.
I keep going back to it, and I keep thinking
that there is really no hope. I mean, as you

(01:38:08):
because at some point you have to play the Rams
again or you don't have to play the Vikings and
those other like but again, but like, look the Vikings,
and like if you're playing the Vikings at home, they're
not as good as they're playing the Dome. They're playing
with case Keenum. Let's not act like he's gonna set
the world on fire. And and as good as golf
has been, Like, look, there's a reason that they lost

(01:38:29):
to the Eagles. There's a reason they lost to UH
to the to the Seahawks at home this year, right
like that, there's one of the reasons why I lost
for the Eagles is because it went so you saw it.
You saw the plays that he needs. I mean, he's
like the girl without zach Ertz in that game. That
was a huge miss for the Eagles, right there, miss
zach Ertz, and you saw he did. He went to

(01:38:51):
two backup tight ends. Brent Selik, who we called Brent
Relic and a backup that nobody knows his name in
Burton and I just again they have a good running
game with J J. I. E and La Gareth Blant.
But I don't know how you I don't know those
big plays that he made with his feed and really

(01:39:14):
escaping to buy time to go down the field. I
don't know where that comes from. Like how do you
replace that kind of talent? And that's why keep going
back to you know of coursen Went, maybe a second
year player, but he's as vital as Brady as the Patriots.
Andy Gargano, host of the morning show Night seven point
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(01:39:37):
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(01:39:59):
In c Battle the day after the Seahawks lose to
the Jaguars, and not like the Jaguars, you know, kind
of gave Seattle their come up. It's a little bit
really physical brand of football, as much as the Jaguars
got super tight offensively and nearly gave that thing away anyway,
Uh softy though everyone's talking about, uh, the ejections and
Jefferson trying to go into the stands and some of

(01:40:22):
the nonsense surrounding the Seattle team. What's you're taking the Hawks? Uh? Well,
my my take is I'd almost rather talk about my
Huskies getting tasted by Zaga last night then talk about
what happened at the end of the Jaguar game yesterday,
because I think for most Seahawk fans, rational Seahawk fans,
it was embarrassing. But Michael Bennett lunging at a guy's

(01:40:43):
knees for trying out loud in a victory formation. When
I was talking to Mike Holmbran on the way down here,
not to name drop, but he does work for us,
so I do have opsits to him. So I thought
that they have a name drop and he said, look,
I've never seen a fumble force out of victory formation
play ever in the history of the NFL. And Michael Bennett,
what's the football reason to do that, to go after

(01:41:03):
lenders knees, and there really isn't any football reason. And
the next play you've got Clinton Jefferson in the backfield
on another victory formation snap doing. I have no idea
what he gets kicked out, He walks off the field,
he gets something thrown at him by some dipstick in Jacksonville.
And every fan has their dipstick fan base, we all
know that, or every every team's got their dipsticks fan base,

(01:41:25):
including Hours and including the Jaguars, and including any team
out there. And the rational thing to do with beat
just to walk off the seat and keep going alert
a security person or a team you know, uh, you know,
personnel person whoever later on and say hey, we gotta
find out who did that and go after that guy
and have him banned from the stadium or whatever. But
instead he just decides to engage the guy and then

(01:41:47):
and then practically jumps into the stands. And I would
ask Clinton Jefferson the same question I would ask Michael Bennett.
For Michael Bennett, I would say, what's the football reason
for going after lenders knees? And the Clinton Jefferson I
would just what are you trying to accomplish. Are you
actually trying to get into the stands to beat a
guy up on national TV in front of you know,
eighty thou people, Billiams More watching. He actually did. Here's

(01:42:11):
his reason. Uh, here's here's what. Here's why he said
he tried to go in the stands. Oh yes, Uh
promise you got that for us. Hold on, we're trying
to get it for you real quick. I don't know
what I'm supposed to do. Like, I'm a human just
like anybody else. I'm not. I'm a man, just like
how the man instance. And unless somebody disrespect him to

(01:42:33):
throw a bear on me just because I'm playing football,
I'm still human being. I'm still a man. Yeah, well, listen,
I was. I was aware of that callt before you
played it. Look, I I like Clentin. I think he's
a really good guy. I think he's a good player.
But I just think he's wrong. Okay, I mean, come on, dude,
the guy is an NFL caliber athlete. He's gonna go
on the road, he's gonna hear crap from fans, and

(01:42:53):
he's gonna get quote unquote disrespected when he goes into
somebody else's stadium, because every stadium allows morons in the house,
and Jacksonville is no difference. So get used to it,
you know, right. I mean, you're play in the NFL.
You're gonna play a lot more road games. You're gonna
hear a lot more crap from people, maybe even more
so now after what happened yesterday. So by advice to
Quentin Jefferson would be being disrespected quote in your world

(01:43:18):
by it and opposing fan base is just kind of
part of the unfortunate reality of being in the NFL.
I mean, I get it every day. I'm sure you
do it well in our business. And you can either
scoop to that level and respond to it and engage
these dipsticks, or you can move on and have somebody
else take care of it for you. And I would
recommend the ladder for Quentin Jefferson. I know you would

(01:43:39):
as well. Yeah, I mean, like look and and and
I'm not saying I'm okay with anybody throwing things out
of the stands. I don't. I believe they didn't throw
it until he made a move back at the guy
who was yelling at him, right, No, no, no, he
was he was walking off the field to go underneath
the stand into the tunnel when somebody threw a beer
at him. It's clear as day on video. And then

(01:43:59):
he goes back, go over and you can see there's
there's there's three or four of them, you know, sitting
there in the first row of the stands, and they're
pointing at him. They're getting in his face. Uh. Karen
Read tweeted out that one of them us the N word,
which I haven't talked to Quentin yet, so I guess
we can confirm that later in a week. And then
you know he's he's engaging these fans and people are
still strowing crap at him. So the first move by

(01:44:20):
Jefferson was after somebody threw something at him. But even still,
I mean again, you know, what do you what do
you honestly trying to get done? Do you do you
do you want to get into a fight with a fan?
Is that what you think you're gonna pull off? That
the security personnel and the team personnel from the Seahawks
that are they're escorting you off the field, that they're

(01:44:40):
actually going to let you go into the stands And
people would just watch this whole Donny Brook go down.
Is that what he thinks? Yeah, I don't know, and
only think about the the N word is there's a
come of the fans that were giving him the business
were black fans. So I don't you know, like I
would think if they were. There were three white fans
that were there that I that I that I kind
of was able to focus on. And there were two

(01:45:01):
black fans that showed up later to be you know,
kind of in the frame. But I mean either way, man,
I mean, come on, dude, we look at where we
expose ourselves the morons, and morons have to be ignored. Um, okay.
So the question becomes how there there's a lot of
people that would saying, well, like this is Pete Carroll
one on one right, like he he lets he lets
the guys kind of dictate their own future. He lets

(01:45:23):
the guys be a little loose in terms of of
what the rules are and uh and and he gets
the most out of them, but sometimes he gets the
worst out of them. How Copal do you think he
Pete Carroll is big time? I mean he's the head
coach of the team. I mean it's the bad with
the good, right, I mean, you you had a situation
earlier this year when Doug bald and Tom Cable got

(01:45:44):
into a little bit of a scuffle on the sideline
and Pete Carroll, to his credit, although he didn't have to,
to his credit, said, hey, blame me because I kind of,
you know, foster this environment where I I like guys
to show emotion and tap into their personalities, and sometimes
it gets a little bit, you know, it goes of
it too far. And we saw that with Baldwin and Cable,
and I think we saw that, you know yesterday in
Jacksonville that you know, he likes guys that have trips

(01:46:07):
on their shoulders. He likes guys that have been doubted
their entire career. I mean, look at, you know, the
makeup of the roster. For crying out loud. Michael Bennett
was an undrafted free agent, uh you know before he
hit you know, kind of pay dirt in Seattle. Uh.
Cliff A. Roll was on an own sixteen Lions team.
Richard Sherman was a fifth round draft pick. Russell Wilson
too short to play in the NFL. Blah blah blah.

(01:46:28):
All these guys have backgrounds like that. Some of them
can control their emotions, and some of them can. But
I think whether fair unfair, I think Pete Carroll absolutely
has to take responsibility for this. I mean if if
if Pete Carroll doesn't, then who does. It's either him
or John Schneider or the owner and Paul Allen. And
last time I checked, Paul Allen was step on the
side to let John of Pete run the football side

(01:46:49):
of things, and and that's the way it should be.
Last thing, uh, is this thing? Can they keep this
thing together? Right? Yes? Yes, yes, yes, yes they have
silt can because this goes one. If the Eagles had
lost to the Rams, and the Rams were two games
up on the Seahawks right now, then this would have
been a totally different animal. But all we've been preaching,

(01:47:09):
at least on my show the last month or so
is make that Ram game matter on December seventeen, and
now it matters. And obviously they're gonna have to go
into that game potentially without kJ Wright, without Bobby Wagner,
without Camp Chancellor, Richard German, Cliff April, who knows, maybe
without Michael Bennett, without Winton Jefferson, depending on what the

(01:47:30):
league says. Although the words no suspensions are coming down. Uh,
the offense is gonna have to step up. And it's
funny because in the game yesterday, for as banged up
as that defense was, when they really needed it three
and out at the end of the game, they got
it and they gave the balls back to the offense
and they puked all over themselves. So I think they
absolutely have a shot. The the stadium is gonna be
rocking next next Sunday against the Rams. And I've said

(01:47:52):
for months that weeks. If the Seahawks can win that
game and put a tie with the Rams and then
obviously they're on the type breaker at that point, I
think they're gonna win the decision. I think he wins
this game, Sunday wins the West. Great stuff as always
from Soft Demul, and you can hear about nine K
j R. In Seattle. Obviously a wild week with your
husky is beaten Ku and then getting stomped by the Zags.

(01:48:14):
I'm sure you got a lot to talk about. I
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says that doctors are still evaluating whether Aaron Rodgers can

(01:48:56):
return from his broken collar. Phone he is eligible to
return this week against the Carolina Panthers. McCarthy expects an
answer soon, joking that maybe they'd put the team doctor
on I R if there is no answer on Rogers tomorrow.
So we expect an answer soon. And what Green Bay
is gonna do at their quarterback position. We know what
the Eagles are gonna do with their quarterback position. That's

(01:49:17):
turned to Nick Foles because Carson Wentz was hurting yesterday's
game against the Rams of the second half where he
tore his a c L. You know, it's hard to
say it appears watching the film again today that it
was actually before the contact so could be it could
be a non contact deal. That's just what it appears
like on tape. Doug Peterson kind of sounds like John
Elway a little bit there. I don't know, Yeah, I heard,

(01:49:39):
I hear I hear it. Yeah, maybe it's maybe it's
quarterbacks speak. Nick Foles will get the start against the
Giants because of that torn a c L Jets QB
Josh McCown out for the season with a broken hand.
Some NBA news Celtics card Kyrie Irving out tonight against
the Bulls because of a quad injury. ESPN and the
Draft Express saying that Lee Angelo and LaMelo Ball are
close to signing deals with a pro club in Lithuania.

(01:50:01):
Deal could be finalized. The deals could be finalized within
the next forty eight hours. Appreciate that. No, that's a
fascinating to watch the balls in. Um, what was the
what was the show when Nicole Ritchie and um, what
was it called Paris Hilton? But yeah, was the second

(01:50:23):
season when they went across the country or was the
first season when they went across the country and they
like did like odd jobs and stayed in people's houses whenever. Yeah,
that was the second season. Was it called The Fab
the Fab Life? I thought it was called the Fab Life,
but I don't know. Simple life, simple life. Yeah, that

(01:50:43):
that's kind of what this feels like with the with
the Ball Brothers, right, the simple life in Lithuania, Like
you have milk cow one day. I mean, they want
a reality show. There's your reality show for you. I
don't know how many people will watch. Um, I believe boys.
We had a Twitter Wars two three four, I did
Clara Twitter okay, so Packers News verified account okay, went

(01:51:08):
in on the Cleveland Browns and on Josh Gordon. How
well did Packers uh cornerback to Marius Randall cover Josh
Gordon had? Uh? He had one catch? Randall said, any
more questions? Gordon, from his own Twitter account said, great
win for them, but let's be serious considering several of

(01:51:28):
our disadvantages as a team. This could couldn't hold kid,
couldn't hold my jack's jockstrap on my worst day. L
O l at Randall time. Damarius Randall hits back where
you can hit back on Josh Gordon? Right, must be
on that again, right, in other words, must be smoking

(01:51:50):
that stuff again. M hmm, there we go. I mean, like, look,
that's is it below the belt? Yeah, but he also
said you couldn't cover me, you know, you couldn't hold
my jockstrap. I think that's completely fair, that's totally inbound.
I think so too. I think so too. I actually

(01:52:13):
think so too. So. I think it's fun. Twitter wars
are fun, fairly innocent. I'm telling you, though, Brown's gonna
get somebody. I don't see them going under. I don't
see them going winless. I don't think it's gonna happen.
Telling you just for whatever reason, I don't think it's
gonna happen. I think they find a way to win

(01:52:35):
a game. I don't know what game, but to win
a game. Not guaranteeing it, okay, but I'm kind of guaranteed.
I thought, I mean, everything looked like it was going
to be that game against the Packers. Now it's gotten
to the point where you don't want to be that team, right,
Nobody wants to be that team. Nobody wants to be
the team that loses to this team. But they're not terrible,

(01:52:57):
and by the way, the Niners have found the quarterback.
I mean every I mean, you watch Jim and you're like, yeah,
that that dog a hunt. Dan Buyer like, are you
with me? Do you think somebody's gonna beat some They're
gonna beat somebody. Yeah, I actually think it could even
come this week against the Ravens after what the Ravens
went through last night. It's their last home game. What's
the early line do we haven't early lined on that?

(01:53:19):
And I'll go, look like I thought it was seven,
to be honest, Yes, yes it's in Cleveland, but I
thought it was about seven. They're at Chicago and then
they're at Pittsburgh. But that game could be meaningless to
the Steelers depending on what happens in the next two weeks.
Pittsburgh already up two games on Jacksonville, but they would
lose the tiebreaker for that bye, and then if the

(01:53:41):
Steelers end up losing to the Patriots this Sunday, that
means that the Patriots then would likely have to lose
their last two. So the Steelers could have nothing to
play for when they faced the Browns in week seventeen.
And why would you play all your guys you know
at that point, So there's options they didn't look like.
They don't look like a winless team. They really don't.

(01:54:01):
I mean, you see some bad football out there, but
they didn't look like a winless team. They did not
look They're young, and especially in the offensive side of
the ball. Uh, they got some young talent and DeShawn
Kaiser is not the worst quarterback in the world. Um,
and you know they're doing all this without Joe Thomas,
her best offensive line. They're leader up up front. So

(01:54:23):
I'm with you. I think the Ravens one. It's a
lot like look what happened to Cincinnati and how they
got destroyed by the Bears, and look what happened to
the Steelers after that game. Like you play a physical game,
you play uf uh, you know, an end of the
wire game in which you know you you think you're
gonna beat the Steelers and then you lose and all
of a sudden, your playoff hopes are disappearing before your eyes.

(01:54:44):
You're the Ravens. That's not a crazy call to make,
Nor is the Week seventeen against the Steelers, whom they
nearly beat last time they played them, very early in
the season. New favorites to win the NFC. The answer
might surprise you. I'll share it with you. Next Springsteen.
It is the ball that is correct, are you Springsteen? Guy?
I do enjoy Bruce Springsteen. Not as crazy as some

(01:55:04):
people are, but I do think his music is very interesting. Yes, okay,
it's a it's a that's a fair way of saying,
you're a great fan. But you appreciate it. How's that? Um? Yeah,
I mean I guess I appreciate it. I don't. I
don't understand people's infatuation with the Boss, like they're crazy

(01:55:26):
about the bass. Yeah, and four hour concerts a little
long for me, you know. I don't want to hear
like every album played back so that. Yeah, his four
our concerts seemed to be something of uniqueness, but I
would think it'd be a little a little long for me. No. Look,
on some level, I respect the fact that you want
to give fans a great show considering how much money
they spend. Right on the other hand, like I've been

(01:55:48):
the shows and when they drag on too long, you're like,
all right, let's go, let's go next next one, Let's
go the next one. The press, Dan Buyer joins us
with the press, the press is what we got here.
One to three, four, five, six, seven, potentially nine stories.

(01:56:10):
I think we get through all nine. Uh huhses got six?
All right? Six six sign stories? All right, Let's let's
see if we get Let's see if we see haven't
asked to write something about you know what, everybody knows
that okay, um about FRANCESSA and I'm I'm popping on

(01:56:32):
francesses like one of his last shows here on Nice
he was. Actually we we had it out a little
bit when I worked there, and we actually ended up
on good terms. Good terms. Hey, guys, guys are life.
Don't believe me just asking who Bay Packers and coach
Mike McCarthy saying today team doctors still evaluate evaluating whether

(01:56:54):
Aaron Rodgers will be clear to return from a fractured
collar bone and play this Sunday against the Panthers. Team
doc there has the scans, apparently maybe sending it around
to others opinions to see what they get. It's expected
a decision will come within the next twenty four hours,
Mike McCarthy saying they'll need to know to formulate a
game plan for their matchup against the Panthers and whether
Rodgers is gonna go, so an answer coming soon on

(01:57:15):
Aaron Rodgers status just not right now. I love that
everybody's seen him play, everybody seen him throw. And Mike
McCarthy is like, you know, for me, he's good, but
it's up to the doctor. This reminds me. You know,
you can take like the S A T or the
A C t V. You have a learning disability, can
take it verbally right, We're like, is it a shake
your head sideways? Be shake your head sideways? See now
you like it's c right. It's that's the same thing.

(01:57:37):
It's like the leading like, uh, is he ready to play?
I think he's ready, Like Aaron Rodgers gonna play this week.
We know that Carson Wentz won't the Eagle's quarterback done
for the season with a torn a c L and
his left knee. Nick Foles will be the team starting
quarterbacks Sunday against the Giants. Look, I don't think their

(01:57:59):
season is comp completely lost. I just think they're super
Bowl holps, you're lost, which for some reason is their season.
But but like Philadelphia fans getting all, look, you went
from terrible to maybe a year ahead of schedule and
potentially a super Bowl team to a playoff team. I
don't think that's a lost season. I think you just
have to look at the Minnesota Vikings. Not that Nick

(01:58:21):
Foles is going to do as well as case Keenum,
but but he has experienced all is not lost. All
is not lost. This is why you haven't experienced backup
who's been a starter before? Um, you know, look, fools,
the differences. Foles really isn't athletic and not comfortable, although
he did play in Chip Kelly system where he was
asked to move a great deal. Uh, Nick Foles started
his career where do you guys remember, oh jeez started

(01:58:45):
his college career where Iowa Michigan State. Remember cousins and
then somebody else tell me, uh, Stanton was there as well,
all the same time. They're all on the same roster
one time. Yeah, that's right, good call, Bivada says. The
Minnesota Vikings are now the odds on favorite to win
the NFC, listed at eleven to four, with the Eagles

(01:59:08):
going from a five to two favorite two three to
one in less than a week. The Vikings are the
favorites now. Who all who who, by the way, have
a have a backup quarterback as their starter, right and
they don't look good. But but their injuries are injuries
on the offensive line, which guys will come back from.
So um, let me just see here. I'm checking out

(01:59:29):
that Michigan state roster. Where is it? I'll fight it. Well.
While you look, I'll tell you that Philly went from
a six to one favorite to a nine to one
to win the Super Bowl in New England. Pittsburgh and
Minnesota have better odds than the Eagles, but those are
the only three teams with better odds to win the
Super Bowl. Jets, by the way, they were taken off
the board by Vada for a lot of reasons, but

(01:59:51):
one of which maybe Josh McCown has done for the
season because of a broken hand. You'll need surgery, yeah,
bright Spett, he's likely to get the start. That's funny.
They still and started Hackingburg, right, Hackenburg? Is he healthy? Yes? Yes,
God he sucks like a healthy scratch. Right. We were
just talking in the break of all the games that

(02:00:12):
were on yesterday that the only game and none of
us watched were Broncos Jets. Like we never flipped over,
Like Broncos crushed the Jets. I watched the Cardinals and
Titans and Phil Dawson helping the Cardinals, mostly helping the Cardinals.
So that team, by the way, two thousand six had
Drew Stanton, who's played in the NFL right as the
starting quarterback. Uh John van Damn, I think his brother

(02:00:36):
played in the NFL. Who else they have at quarterback?
They they had Nick Foles who who transferred out to Arizona.
And they had one other starting quarter and they had
Brian Brian Hoyer was was the other quarterback. Had three
NFL starting starting quarterbacks on that roster. Away, go ahead.
By the way, the Titans are the worst eight and
five team in NFL history. Oh my good, it's like sets.

(02:01:00):
It such a complete misnomer. Their record is opposed to
how good they are. Gian Carlos Stanton took a shot
at the Marlins previous ownership and his farewell message to
their fans, saying he tried to stay professional during the
unprofessional circus times. This from Giancarlo today, it was just um,
no no structure, no no stamp of This is how

(02:01:20):
things are gonna be. It's a it's a different direction
every spring training got learned something new every spring, a
different manager every spring, every uh middle of the season.
So that's mainly what I meant. Yeah, they suck. Now
you're going to the best organization in baseball with some
of the best players in baseball, and you have a

(02:01:43):
manager who, although he's never managed before, how much does
he really have to do? Well? Lee Angelo LaMelo Ball
are starting their professional careers, could be doing so in Lithuania,
maybe signing a deal within the next day or so.
Matt Barnes ending his professional career, wrapping up his NBA
career after fifteen seasons. I don't like we gonna have

(02:02:05):
Matt Barnes on for an exit interview from the NBA.
Matt Barnes made it fifteen years in the NBA. That's
one of those deals. Like you might not have liked
him or liked the act, you gotta respect want to
ring and how much ball he played, uh, and the
fact that he would Derek Fishers as Levian Bell confirmed

(02:02:26):
to join us tomorrow. Levian Bell is awesome at the
game of football. Can we all agree on that, right, Like,
there's there's other guys that might be equally talented, but
nobody's better than Levion Bell running the football. They'll join
us tomorrow, So old Marshawn Lattimore, potential defensive rookie of
the year. This is the doug Out lip Show.

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