So You’re Saying There’s A Chance!

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year as well. Boom, it's a Wednesday here on Fox
Sports Radio and Jonas, I think that we are as
close as we have been to not knowing if baseball

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is going to be back or not. Thank you very
much Baseball. Within the past hour, with the past hour,
we have had reports of Major League Baseball closing in
on a deal involving pro rated salaries, expanded playoffs, more money.
Then twenty eight minutes ago, no deal is close yet

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twenty eight minutes ago, new proposals sent to the Players
Association from Major League Baseball. My goodness, this even when
it wants to end, Jonas, this fight between the union
and the owners still never ends. The players like, listen,
we don't want to negotiate anymore, and the owners like, no,

(01:26):
we're gonna make you negotiate. You're gonna negotiate whether you
like it or not. And now we think, oh guess what.
For five minutes we had the idea that maybe, just
maybe we will have major League Baseball in and that
has gone like the rest of this baseball off seat. Yeah,
I don't think that John Hayman's tweet actually was sent
before Fox Sports Radio's resident MLB ball washer Rob Parker,

(01:50):
sent a screenshot up it over to me, saying it
was almost like his without any comment, no further comment needed,
just like, hey, baseball's back, ready to save America. And then,
like you said, thirteen minutes later, n that's so fast.
I just I don't. I'm so it's I'm dizzy at
this point. I don't. I mean, there's been so many

(02:12):
numbers thrown at us with the number of games that
have been the proposals that have been out there. And
by the way, how about all like if if baseball players,
if you want us to like not think that you're
copying and pasting everybody else's tweet, then why don't you
at least like change the font or add a little
something to it. But this whole tell us when and

(02:33):
where crap that's going around. The only thing missing is
a hashtag ad at the end of it, in which
it was basically sent over by somebody in the p
a who said, Hey, can you guys do us a
favor go on to social media just copy and paste
and sent this out. And literally every player copy and
pasted it and just sent it out. It was so
obvious what's happening. But we do think we get a
little bit of good news and then the harsh dose

(02:55):
of reality comes right after that. Dan, you know, and
I would even say this, I I am, I am
to this point, and I realized this point yesterday. Uh,
and I just thought to myself, I don't think I
care anymore. I mean, like I maybe once I see
a pitch being thrown, maybe seeing a batter step into

(03:17):
the plate. You know, we joked the other day, I said,
my Fantasy Baseball league has been changed the the the
draft date has been changed minimum six times, because it
was it was March, and then it was another date
in March. Then it was May, and it was another
date in May, and now it's June, and now it's
another date in June. Like this just is it's over
and over and over again. And and and and listen.

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I don't blame insiders for reporting what they know. And
maybe John Hayman has intel that other insiders don't have
at this point, but it's just the simple fact of
where we thought we were going to get baseball when
Rob Manfred said a week ago, and and and he's
he's gotten a lot of flak forward of unequivocally we
will have baseball, and then then to go sation stops.

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So it's like, all right, just institute your season, however
you're gonna do it. And even that couldn't even that
couldn't be concrete. And it's at that point that we're
sitting here not only as sports talk show host jonas
or personalities or or newsmen, we are sitting here as
baseball fans. And I just kind of got to the
point where I'm like, you know what, whatever you want

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to do, just fine, just do it. Will well maybe
we'll watch, maybe we won't. But the fact that sit
here and worry about everything that is going on to
me is just pretty absurd. Well, I've already said it's
too late. It's already too late. That your your your opportunity,
your platform, unopposed to everything else is gone. That's over.
Because even if something does get confirmed today and what

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John Hayman reported is correct and they get a deal done,
we're still talking three weeks of spring training, right, So
if we're talking three weeks of spring training, that means
you're starting the season in mid July neat and two
weeks later we've got NBA playoffs to look at, Like, like,
what if do you think are people going to be
more fascinated by watching, uh, the Rays playing an empty

(05:07):
dome or or the NBA play the most unique looking
playoff format they've ever had inside a bubble, uh, in
which you don't know whether or not guys have been
have been sneaking out to go to the park or
right in the teacups, or whatever the case. Maybe I
think Major League Baseball has already missed their opportunity. They had.
They had an open playing field, no pun intended. They

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had an open opportunity to be the only thing going.
And they waited around, and they waited around, and they
bickered for far too long. And I said this a
week ago or two weeks ago, I said, this is
no longer about which side you agree with. It's about
the fact that both sides made a choice that they
were going to put their feet in the ground and
working a budge, or at least not budge enough to

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get something done. And while they were doing that, the
world was passing them by. An opportunity was lost. It's
so much more difficult to get hundreds of players the
same page than thirty people, right, I mean like too so,
so what to me is most amazing Jonas about this
and and to your point of of these the sides
digging in their heels, it is a much greater accomplishment

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in my mind that the players Union got on the
same page and said, all right, this is what we're
gonna do. We're not going to take a pay cut
in addition to our pro rated salaries. We agreed on
that in March, we are not going to take an
additional pay cut in in our for our money's when
you have owners, we're only thirty of them are a

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part of all of this, and that's a lot easier
to get on the same page. But now, as we
also come to find out, you can't even get thirty
owners who are on the same page because six or
eight of them don't even want to have I want
to have a season. And this is all within the
last twenty four hours. So at one point we came
from a fractured ownership group, which is a lot easier

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to get on the same page when you have thirty guys,
to now being close to an agreement or having an agreement.
I don't know what to expect. I don't care anymore.
I don't. I don't care about saying, wow, it'll be
neat to see how the forty eight games are played,
because each game is more valuable. Can someone hit five
hundred in this season? I don't care. I don't the
the Union just tweeted out reports of an agreement are false,

(07:22):
that from the MLB p A. I don't care. You
know what your next tweet should be, we are we
were told we're playing baseball here, or we're told we're
not playing baseball. That should be the tweet. I'm done
with all of this back and forth. Yeah, I just
uh this whole thing. And and I never try and
do this because I don't think it's it's realistic to
where you try and take a professional athlete or a

(07:44):
professional owner of a team and then try and compare
them to the everyday guy out there. Or a person
that maybe owns a business that's that's having financial issues.
I try not to do that. I try not to
think with with my wallet when it comes to anybody
else's business, because it's just it's not an apples to
apples comparison. But I will say this at a time

(08:05):
when businesses are unwillingly having to close their doors because
a pandemic was thrown into their lap like a pipe bomb,
without without any warning whatsoever, and their entire life's work
is down the tube. They would love nothing more than
to be able to work, but they can't. You've got

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owners around Major League Baseball who can work, but they
don't want to. It's just like it's great, Like it
is the most they they have come across as the
most unrelatable league of all the leagues that are going
right now. You can say whatever you want about well,
the you know, the NFL is being a little bit
reckless with this coronavirus and they're just they're continuing on,

(08:50):
you know, as as things. Say whatever you want about
any other league. The UFC, the w w E still
still filming even though somebody tested positive and they had
to halt tapings. In the past couple of days, say
whatever you want. Man, this, when you talk about unrelatability
in the world of sports, baseball is at the top

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of the list. And it's not just owners, it's the players,
it's everybody else involved. The freeze out of free agents,
of of them not signing Many Machado or Bryce Harper,
j D. Martinez pales in comparison to what you just
talked about, Like that was the that was the big
deal of looking at how the owners are on the
same page conluding to not pay these free agents and
these players now can't find money anywhere. It's like, my goodness,

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how are the owners doing that? This pales in comparison
to that. I should weigh in because we are now
getting an idea all of the baseball insiders. I don't
want to give credit to one, because they all now
have the details of what the latest owner's proposal is,
a sixty game season that would start July nine or

(09:53):
the twenty so the nineteen full pro rated salary, expanded
playoffs in tw one, plus the waving of any potential grievance,
and all of these things, or at least the last
three things, have been something that has been a point
of contention with both of these sides. And by the way,

(10:16):
I think we need to get proper credit there. That
was courtesy of David Gascon who retweeted Ken Rosenthal. Why
don't we just combine all of the insiders and make
him a name like Buster Nightingale. It was Dave Rosenthal con.
Who can we come up with the best combined insider names?

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So when everybody tweets out the same information, we aren't
leaving anyone out of somebody who had it. By the way,
the more information you've given your tweets, the more it
can hamper you because you will be seconds behind another
insider on that list. It is true, by the way,
and I think Buster Rosenthal is the one to go.

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That's Buster Nightingale. It's I mean, so you would get
sixty games full pro rated salary apparently no additional cuts, which,
by the way, the no additional cuts is something that
the players Association wanted. They would get paid. I guess
twelve more games under this scenario at their full salary.
Maybe this is the number. Guess what, Maybe it isn't.

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I don't care anymore. Just tell me if you're gonna
play baseball or not. And then I'll decide if I
want to care. Let me ask you this, if they
would never do this, but I'm just just thinking out
loud here maybe I shouldn't do this, but I'm gonna
do it anyways. If teams, as you walked into the
stadium had a you know, like you fill out like

(11:42):
your information when you go to a wedding, so they
know who was there and all that stuff. If at
the front of the stadium, fans could go into the game,
but they would waive any sort of grievance against the
team if for some reason they did get the coronavirus.
How many people do you think would pack into some
of these baseball stadiums? For you think four, because I

(12:05):
think Wrigley Field would have six I do. I think
I think people are are so itching to get back
out there and and want to be like just get
back to some sort of a normal life that they
were used to that that I think, not that it
would happen, but I think I just wonder what no
fans is really going to look like when it comes

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to baseball. I wonder I wonder how that what would
it would it be? Is noticeable? NASCAR with no fans.
I didn't notice the damn thing. Like I never watched
NASCAR because of it. But like Marlin's man, what is
Marlin's man going to do with his wife? Yeah, it
doesn't have a lot of options, like like show up
in a twitch game. But like I think, like I
look at baseball, and I look at baseball as like

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one of the last reasons I go to the ball
game is to actually watch the game, Like I go
to tailgates, you know where I'm from, or to maybe
get some popcorn and the hot dog to chill out,
and to make sure I leave by the by the
eighth inning. Usually I'm a middle of the eighth guy.
That's that's usually when I leave. So that's why, that's
why I think just the number is low from my
own personal opinion, maybe there are so many people itching

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to go somewhere to to just take in something that
is normal. But I just I look at baseball for
so many of the other things in the actual ball
game that I'm going to. Yeah, I think baseball, of
all the major sports, is the best in game experience
from a fan standpoint. It's so relaxed. Man, Like you
go to you go to some NFL games. You've been
to a Seahawks game, right, Okay, but I've been doing Okay,

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it's insane, all right, they are insane. Or you go
to some of these other football you've been to enough
of big time college games to where you go and
it's it's nuts, man. They're channing stuff you've never heard
of in your life. You don't even know what it means.
And then you hear after the fact that maybe means
something that it shouldn't mean, and all these other things
that are happening. But you go to a baseball game,
you can actually truly enjoy it. There's times where they

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have their issues and whatnot, but to be able to
sit back, relax, get a doll dog, get something to drink,
a hot dog, by the way, I'm not not endorsing
any animal violence, but get a hot dog, cracker jacks, whatever.
It is. The fact that they're not going to have that,
I just I wonder. I just wonder if people like
baseball more in being there at the stadium watching the game,

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or if they enjoy it more at home, because I
do think it's one of those sports it does play
better when you're there inside the stadium. I really do well.
John Tyler's chimed in the Ramo Show on Monday was great.
So that from John Tyler. Sorry, just now listen to
the podcast, so the so the so the fifteen minutes

(14:40):
we just did on baseball John Tyler tweets in Ramo
Show on Monday was great. John, You know what it's
it's staying on top of the stories that are that
are the hottest that I love the best about the
listeners there. It is that from John Robins. You will
have a new John Ramo show coming up today. By
the way, on a second, what the hell did he
just say staying put it together right now? So I

(15:01):
was a little bit off, all right? All right? But
yeah listen, listen. Can you not bother him during the show.
He's crying preparing for his show during our show. Come on,
please get it together? But no, so so we will.
Who knows? You think you think we're gonna have something
set in stone before the end of the show, Dan,
you think I absolutely not zero percent? My god, you're

(15:22):
ned like Thank god. I'm not negative like you, Dan,
I'm over it, positive outlook on things you come to
me you want, by the way, I think they can
fit it's it's it's basically like you know, sitting inside
a gumball machine, like there's there's not enough people, not
enough room for that many people. Be sure to catch

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up in just a matter of minutes. It's been a
crazy hours in still Water, Oklahoma. And I know Doug

(16:07):
touched on this yesterday in the conversation about Mike Gundi,
the o A N News T shirt that he wore
and then the apology that he had with him and
Chewba Hubbard standing side by side. What does Doug know
about Oklahomas? All right? Yeah, but what would he know
about that, like like he was a real good basketball
player there or something. Well, you know, the story ended

(16:29):
up being advanced after Doug Show yesterday, and it ended
being advanced once again by Mike Gundi, who issued uh
this statement in this apology without Chuba Hubbard by by
his side. This was the This was the audio of
the Oklahoma Stated football coach yesterday in response to the
other apology that was sent earlier. I had a great

(16:52):
meeting with our team today. Our players expressed their feelings
as individuals and his team members. They helped me through
their eyes how the T shirt affected their hearts. Once
I learned how that network felt about Black Lives Matter,
I was disgusted and knew it was completely unacceptable to me.

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I want to apologize to all members of our team,
former players, and their families for the pain and discomfort
that has been caused over the last two days. Black
lives matter to me, Our players matter to me. These
meetings with our team have been eye opening and will
result in positive changes for Oklahoma State football. I sincerely

(17:36):
hope the Oklahoma State family near and far will accept
my humble apology as we move forward. And when I
hear that, I hear Mike Gundie speaking his mind. May
have been a prepared statement, but there was enough in
there to make me believe that Mike Gundy was apologizing
for his actions. When I went on Twitter, I saw

(17:59):
two things. Number one, why are you apologizing again, Mike Gundy?
You have nothing to apologize for. And number two, I
heard Mike Gundy didn't go far enough. You have not
gone far enough with that. Why don't you quit the act?
And and and it drives me nuts Jonas for the
simple reason of I believe Mike Gundy, just like I
believe Drew Brees, and his apology doesn't mean that they're

(18:22):
off the hook by any means, doesn't mean that they're,
you know, Scott free to do whatever they want, because
there is a lot to happen and a lot that
can happen from those words. I just wish we would
now say, all right, we have your apology, we accept it.
Now what are you going to do, because that's the
only thing that I think we can really judge these
people on, and not just a fifty three second statement

(18:44):
that's posted on Twitter or on Instagram. Now, let's see
what Drew Brees does in the community and with Black
Lives Matter. Let's see what Mike Gundy does as a
head coach of Oklahoma State. We should at least give
them the benefit of the doubt in an apology that
I felt was somewhat sincere. Yeah, I just you can't
win either way, and that welcome to social media. And
it's why one of my favorite adages is, you know,

(19:06):
it's a hammer. Can be used as a tool or
a weapon, and it just depends on how you want
to use it. And for some people, no matter what,
social media is always going to be used as a weapon.
It's always going to be divisive. And he goes on
there and the apollogy, I mean, Drew Brees came back
three four different times to apologize. Okay, man, we get
it at a At a certain point, it becomes less

(19:27):
sincere and less sincere. Um Mike Gundy does that awkward
video with Cuba Hubbard to where it's almost like they're
reading off a teleprompter and then they you know, high
five at the end. It was just it it felt
so controlled, just like at some point, people are who
they are and you either like them for it or

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you don't. And you don't have to like everybody, and
you don't have to get along with everybody. It's it's
not mandatory. And if you don't like the way somebody is,
you distance themselves from you. That's it. But this whole
we need to see this. Okay, well you do it. No,
that's not good enough. It's like, yes, somebody for a
hundred bucks, they give you five twenties and you complain
about it, like what's the difference, Like it's a hundred bucks.

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Now I wanted in all tens. Okay, well here's all tens. No,
and I've changed my mind. Now I wanted in a
bunch of five. Okay, Like at what point do we
just go all right, this is who he is. We
either can accept it or we can't, and you either
move on or you decide that you need to go
somewhere else if you want to transfer, whatever the case
may be. But this whole back and forth on social

(20:31):
media and multiple apologies, like come on, man, it just
wears me. It's just it's a longer play for me.
I just want I want to see more from my
Gundhy and I want to see more from Drew Brees.
And that's how I'm going to end up judging them
from what has transpired in both of their situations over
these last few weeks. It's uh, yeah, it's pretty crazy, absolutely,
but that it's social media. I mean, you're you're so

(20:53):
into social media, like your Instagram and snap face and
all these other social media things. It's not me, Dan,
It's just not my thing. It is that we're gonna
catch you up with an NBA veteran in Actually, let's
do it right now. Friend of the program, spending studio
many times talking about a lot of the issues, uh,
not only in the NBA, but also of what's going
on in this world. Corey Brewer joins the program here

(21:15):
on Fox Sports Radio. Hey Corey, how are you? I'm good? Good? Good?
First of all, how's uh officially retired? Right? Like? Basketball is?
Basketball is now a part of the past. Is that correct?
That's man not yet, that's it. I'm still working out,

(21:35):
never still still kicking it, still kicking. Anything could happened,
I still I'm still. I'm in really good shape right now.
Hey my phone range? Okay? All right? Would you be
willing to go to Orlando? Um? Yeah, you know, if
I get a call, I'll be willing to go. You know,
I feel like you no basketball is you know, it's
the NBA. You wanta you always want to play basketball.

(21:57):
It's a lot going on in the world right now.
I feel like we could use that platform, even if
you are in Lando, with all the all odds on,
it's gonna be all odes on the NBA once it
starts back. I feel like that platform can actually help
the movement, Corey, from players you've talked to that you
know are still in the NBA or even players that
are recently out of the NBA, do they are they

(22:17):
more in favor of going to play and using that
platform like you said, or do they think right now
is a good time to make a statement and and
really try and stand your ground to get some change
in the country. Um, I've talked to the guys, and UM,
it's been kind of both ways. A lot of guys think, um,
you know, we shouldn't go play because the way it's

(22:37):
going right now, if we use our voice, we can
make a change by not playing. But then you have
to look at it the other side to guys say,
if we go back and play, everybody's gonna be looking
at basketball and you're able to use your platform to
try to make a change also, So I feel like, um,
it's it's your personal preference and both you can make
a change both ways. Corey Brewer joining us year on

(23:00):
Fox Sports Radio, not yet retired. Still it's got some
hooping him. He's Jonas Knocks. I'm Dan Buyer. This is
the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. What is
what is the percentage that is concerned because we heard
there were about eighty players that were on that Players
Association call on Friday that's kind of been spearheaded by
Kyrie Irving. Is it more than meant than the eighty players?

(23:22):
Could you ballpark it at saying or fifty percent? But
how many players are actually do you think are concerned
with with restarting the season in Orlando? I feel like
the majority of guys want to start the season. They
want to play basketball. But then you have a few
guys that are concerned about if it's going to take
away from making change in the world with the all

(23:44):
the protests and different things that we can do to
help change what's going on with all the police brutality.
And you know a lot of guys are also skid
uh the COVID. It's so it's two things. But I
think most guys feel like um NBA's gonna do a
great job with making sure we're safe, and guys want
to go play. Corey, how much time would you need

(24:05):
to get ready to play the season. Are we talking
a couple of weeks? Would you need more than that
you personally or guys that you've talked to, How much
time do you guys ideally want. I think guys need
two or four weeks for sure, you know, just to
get back out there, um playing real basketball, getting get
back It's gonna be tough to getting game shape that quick.
But I feel like guys have been working out and

(24:28):
they're gonna be ready. Corey Brewer joining us here on
Fox Sports Radio. You can find him on Twitter at
the Corey Brewer. So if if there if there is
a situation where we have a season it plays out,
are other players, are other coaches going to look at
this champion that could be crowned as a legitimate champion?

(24:50):
Is there any concern that there would not be as
uh as much legitimacy to a championship if a season
played out under these circumstances. I think it's always gonna
be people that's gonna question that just because there's a short,
shorter season and with everything going on, you don't have
a home court advantage. You're all in one neutral site.

(25:11):
But in my mind, I feel like it's gonna be
it's gonna be tough to win the championship with all
the circumstances that you have. I feel like this champion
is going to be it's gonna be tough to win
the championship. So whoever wins it, you gotta take your
head off and give them the respect to too quick
follow up on that, do you think that the lower
seeded teams have more of a chance at trying to

(25:31):
do something or with the maybe the debt kind of
being stacked against some of the top teams. Is that
how you look at how this can play out. Yeah,
I think it's gonna be some teams that, um, you
wouldn't normally give a chance. They're gonna have an opportunity
that makes noise just because there's no home court advantage. Um,
there's no travel and so it's gonna be even. It's
gonna be whoever playing, whoever is playing their best basketball.

(25:54):
Tom Corey Brewer joining us here on Fox Sports Radio
NBA VET NBA Champion with Dan Buyer and myself Jonah
Snocks and for Doug gott Leepier on f S. Are
all right, say Corey, Like a couple of weeks into it,
you're you're a little bit you know, you're getting a
little stir crazy, and you're like, I gotta blow off
some steam. So you sneak out and you go get
a churro and you're like, you know, I just I

(26:14):
need something. I gotta get away from all this. And
then you find out that somebody dimes you out, they
call the snitch hotline and they rat you out and
you get in trouble for it. What kind of payback
are we talking about here? I mean, I mean, how
are you getting even when you find out some guy
ratted you out for going to get a churro or
something off off site? Um, that would be an interesting
conversation that somebody, to be honest, I don't know about

(26:38):
the hotline. I don't know. I don't think guys are
gonna snitch on each other, but you never know, Corey,
if you want to snitch on anybody, the number is
corn Dog. That's that's that's the number that you will
need to to call if you if you find anybody
breaking protocol if you're in Orlando. Just figured it. Yeah, okay,

(26:58):
maybe not so much. Um, Corey Brewer joining us here
on Fox Sports Radio. There are so many crazy protocols.
What what is life on the road like? Because you
have read road trips that maybe have gone ten days,
eleven days, maybe gone two weeks. In the NBA, guys
are gonna be asked to be gone for two months
from their spots. What are what are gonna be the

(27:21):
challenges that these guys have to deal with from being
away from home for so long. It's gonna be It's
gonna be mentally tough. You gotta be mentally shrung just
because you really can't. It's not like you're living a
normal life. Like you can't go to a restaurant, you
can't go anywhere. You're You're gonna be on campus, the
Disney campus, you're at the hotel, or you're in the gym.

(27:43):
So I think um mentally it's gonna be tough for
guys because they're used to being able to do their
own things or being able to leave and go go
wherever they won't And also it's gonna be hard when
you're not around your family. I think that's gonna be
the hardest thing. When you don't see your like your
kids and your wife for two months. That's that's tough.
To have small children I have small children, so I
think that would be the tough thing, Corey. What would

(28:04):
be the last one for me? For Corey Brewer here
on Fox Sports Radio, what would be the worst city
to be quarantined in? If they threw up a bubble
in any city, which would be the worst that would
probably see the lowest attendants from NBA players The worst city? Man,
it depends. I have no idea right now, just because

(28:25):
I am I haven't been anywhere for so long. I
can't even think of the studies and is a Sacramento?
Is a Sacramento? Sacramento actually wasn't bad. I was there
last year and it wasn't bad. But again, I had
my family there, so I was going. I was going
to kids places like So when you get older, I
think the younger guys have they could ask that question

(28:46):
better because you know, they want to get out and
go place for me. If you gotta, Like when I
was saying you had a David Busters, I check your
that was fine. It's good enough. It's good enough for
Corey Brewer, Well, we we appreciate the site, and uh,
I mean it's gonna be crazy. And I apologize for
retiring you early. I mean, I really do so out there,

(29:07):
teams out there? What's that I was gonna say, teams
out there. Corey Brewer is available and he'll go through
all of the uh, you know, the the the protocols
that you have to go through. He is ready for Orlando.
So Corey, my bad on that. But we're glad to
have you on and it's great to talk to you again.
You've been in the studio a bunch of times with
us and I always like talking to you. Appreciate it.

(29:29):
I appreciate thanks for having Be sure to catch the
live edition of The Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at
three p m. Easter Noon Pacific and less than two
hours away from the John Ramos Show. We have had
a major rewrite, so we'll keep you updated on how
that is going. It is the Doug Gottlieb Show. I'm
Dan buy Air, that's Jonas Knocks. John Ramos is here today.

(29:49):
The show is a Gavin Kinseled production, and David Gascott
is here as well. As we get together to play
a game. This is on The Doug Gottlieb Show. Dave,
you want to know what I watched last night? You watched? Yes,

(30:10):
I want to know. I was wonderful. Guess well this
spoiler alert for those Deadliest Catch fans. Spoiler alert. Some
guys were on the crab, others weren't. Yes, yeah, that
is great about that. It's also like you just hey,
so what happened on this week's Deadliest Catch? Somebody went

(30:31):
to rehab? Did not happen? But a new update after
what fifteen years of this show, now, Jonas you're getting
cod total updates. Some guys are going fishing for cod instead.
So when you get the total crab count, now they
have a separate graphic for those who are fishing for cod.

(30:54):
It's the only thing that's changed in the fifteen years
of the show because every episode is the same that
I watched every single episode. I think they're gonna five
crab you know, mother loan, you know one, three, two,
that's a record. Does that one guy, Keith still pump
his fist and have his little like yeah, like, does

(31:16):
he have that little like bobblehead that he like pets? Yeah,
that did his grunt. I think I told you this randomly.
I saw Keith at the US Open last year, which
is one you know, it's well, it would have been
last week, but the U S Open was supposed to
take place this week didn't happen. So yeah, so it's
the deadliest catch. Last night, he should have walked up
to him and hey man, what are they biting on?

(31:38):
Oh man, you say that to Jeffrey Dahmer too. I
know I wouldn't do that. That's all right? All right?
What's the game today? News? And we got some breaking
news in Major League Baseball? Nothing broken just yet. Um, guys,
what we're going? I guess we'd go to the National
Football Like it's the safest bet so far. Um. Dalvin

(31:59):
Cook really wanted to be the NFL's highest paid running back,
but has now dropped his asking price. Is that real
or fake? Fake? Fake? I that's it's a real. Yeah.
I think that is real spectacular? You know, how can
I do that? Because when the initial reports were that
he was going to hold out, there was another report

(32:20):
that said he would accept thirteen million instead of sixteen million.
So because he's missed twenty games in the NFL so far,
so like he's he's Melvin Gordon had more of an
argument towards I need to be paid than Dalvin Cook does.
Dalvin Cook's a great player, but he said one season,
one season, Jonas, you just made Gavin Kinsel walk in

(32:43):
a traffic on Venturan Sepulvida. Melvin Gordon comments after the
Titans game, do you wish Melvin Gordon held out the
entire season? Enjoy him? Dave, hey Man, you know what
the contract Melvin Gordon got when all of a sudden done,
could have done all lot worse. Man, he could have
done a lot worse than what he got from Denver,

(33:03):
because not a lot better if you would to accept
the other deal too. But I don't think we need
a bully him on the air, guys. Uh, let's stay
with the National Football League and and talking about the
Bears signing another kicker, Eddie Pineiro in training camp said
he expected it and everybody has to compete. Is that
real or fake? Mm hmm. And he's the owner of

(33:25):
Panero Bread. I would go, I'll say that's real. He's
I think he's a little bit more combative, all right,
I'll go with that. It happens, It happens, It happens,
So isn't that's just he said, that's obviously adding to it.

(33:46):
He said, that's just part of it. Guys, we go
from the Gridiron to the National Hockey League. The anchiel
may require players to wear full face shields when games resume.
Is that real or fake? Better be fake. I'm gonna
say real, real, damnit. Yeah. Bauer Hockey has already designed
a new face shield that are calling a splash guard,

(34:07):
which will provide additional splash protection around the mouth while
maintaining a high level of vision and breathability. Dan Bauer
sounds pretty erotic. Um Johnson is out, man. How how
in the world are you going to get ice to
work when it's a hundred and fifteen degrees in Vegas
in the summer. I like, there comes a point where
it's like, Okay, this is pretty absurd. You remember this.

(34:30):
This happened from time to time when it would get
really really hot on the East Coast, like in May
or June. Do you remember when um, like NBA teams,
there would be ice would be leaking on we melting underneath,
and it would come up through the parquet boards Like
this may have been like old school NBA, the way
NBA floors were built back then, but I remember that
happening in like Philadelphia, in Boston to where it would

(34:52):
it would seep up underneath the boards. I don't know
why I thought of that. Remember the old Boston Garden
floor with the dead spots and bolts and yeah and
the rats. Good time Guy's last one. Real or fake?
Sara Williams confirms she will not play in the US Open.
Real or fake. I know this one. Yeah, I'm gonna

(35:14):
say f A k E. All right, all right, well
Dan already spelled it out. I'll go real. You are
damn it. Yes, it is fake, she said. I really
cannot wait to return to New York and play in
the US Open. I feel like it's going to be
do a really good job ensuring everything is amazing and
everything is perfect and everyone is safe, so on and

(35:36):
so forth. So that is fake, fake fake. This is
game time on the duck. Got lame show the US Open?
Did that get moved back? Still still holding on strong? Yeah?
Because Tennis? US Open? Tennis. Yeah, yeah, because I because
I can assure you those players are probably welcome the
idea of actually having that like October as opposed to

(35:59):
because I don't know you've been to New York at
that time of year that the humidity is disgusting mosquitoes
the size of seven seven stand oh Man, Lamar Jackson
may want to take back what he said. We'll get
into that coming up next. Be sure to catch the
three p m. Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio

(36:20):
and the I Heart Radio app. And John Ramos is
here as well, ninety minutes away from a brand new
John Ramo Show, and jonas I've gotten uh got behind
the scenes a little bit, and that could be a
doozy today, that's for sure now, is so, John is
preparing the John Ramo Show. And for those of you

(36:41):
think like oh Man, you know, and nobody can really multitash,
you can't really focus on, you know, a bunch of
things that at the same time, you've gotta be able
to give all your attention to something. And then for
those of you think that, from my understanding, John Ramos
is producing technically the Doug gott Leap Show with us
filling in Wow, producing and coming up with the John

(37:06):
Ramo Show while harassing me during the breaks, all while
wearing a mask. A tremendous job there and and playing
Ramos strops Dan. There's nothing he can't do well. Let's
let's be real. It really isn't multitasking because he's just
completely abandoned the technical producer prota. It is full steam ahead.

(37:28):
We're focusing on the John Ramos show. That's what we
are doing. John, Can you confirm that? Hold on a second,
I have to go to the bathroom. Can I go home?
By the way, it's probably open. Now here's the thing.
John's in a chair for like, you know, seven hours
a day. He gets out of sixty minutes an hour.

(37:49):
He gets maybe fifteen minutes of those sixty minutes where
he can actually get up and leave, and they're broken
up in about five minutes, and inevitably someone is in
the one bathroom that we have for him to yes everything.
It's seeing somebody's pet peeve before they see it, and
you almost kind of cringe knowing what they're gonna do
when they see it. It's like, oh God, when they

(38:10):
see this, it's like when your parents come home and
you knew you broke a window and you're like, oh
my god, when they see this is gonna be bad.
Anytime I've ever seen that the bathroom door was locked
and John Ramos is coming down the hall at a
pretty urgent pace because you know he's not wearing a
diaper and he's gotta go. I just go. I'm out
of here. I can't be around with this. This is
like somebody's gonna get it. Somebody is going to get it.

(38:32):
John Ramos has that look. That is for sure. I
will get to the John Ramos Show in about thirty
minutes or so. I want to touch on two things quickly.
Number one, I'm the de Leo sent in a tweet Jonas.
I don't know if you saw this. I retweeted it
at Dan Buyer on Fox. You can also check out
Jonas at d Jonas Knocks. It's of the Northwestern docked. Yes, yes,

(38:54):
so check that out. So there's some deadliest catch for you.
What a crappy boat? Come on, you're not a big
Northwestern fan? I begged you kind of more's uh Cornelia
Marie guy? Yeah? I mean, but what was the time
bandit strands time Bandit? But they're no longer around because

(39:15):
that guy had a messed up neck and the other
guy was just Jonathan actually joined uh the saga, which
is I'm totally blanking who used to work on the
Northwestern that guy who's got an anger problem. It's it's
the kid Jake. Yeah, yeah, Jake, Yeah, he's got an
anger problem. Yeah. Jake was running the saga, so Jonathan
neil Strand joined him on a couple of the other episodes.

(39:37):
The kid who in his early twenties, you could put
groceries in the bags under his eyes. What an unhealthy lifestyy,
he's running a boat. He's on a boat now. Oh
my god, man, what an unhealthy lifestyle. Oh man, I
get sea sick. I wouldn't be able to handle it. Uh.
The Ravens have kind of had a rough season when
it comes to the NFL playoffs the last two seasons,

(39:59):
the reigning NFL m v P Lamar Jackson oh and
two in his career in playoff games. Jonas he joined
the Complex is Load Management podcast and on that podcast
talked about last year's playoff loss to the Tennessee Titans.
That's the goal. I gotta play right, taking one game
at the time, not picking the head. That's what happened

(40:20):
in the playoffs, and you know, losing to the team
people had us favorite, but it's going to give us
something you can't estimate. No team door opponent and that's
what we did. So I'm looking for this season plan
the Browns. First, that from Lamar Jackson and and pretty
I guess mundane comments nothing like headline grabbing. But I
do think if you dig into it a little bit,

(40:42):
there are some interesting points of where the Ravens were,
where the Ravens are, and at what they can be.
Because it's surprising for me to hear Lamar Jackson say
that they underestimated the Tennessee Titans, considering it was a
week prior that the Titans went to New England and

(41:05):
beat Tom Brady and Bill Belichick in the NFL playoffs.
Like that to me is that would that would raise
my attention span to be like, huh, okay, maybe this
team has got something and by the way, completely one
dimensional football team as well. So I just if if
you know that Tennessee is gonna come in after meeting
the Patriots by running the ball down the throat, they're

(41:26):
probably gonna try to do the same, says a little
something to me, a little bit more that maybe the
Ravens just I don't know, we're oblivious to what happened
the week before. Surprising that the Ravens would have underestimated
the Tennessee Titans. Well, John Harbaugh said earlier in the
off season that he regretted resting his starters in Week
seventeen because, in essence, they played Week sixteen, they didn't

(41:48):
play Week seventeen. They had a buy in the first
round of the playoffs, so they went about twenty days
without taking a snap. And he said, you know, I
do you know, if I had to do it over again,
I would have done that differently. And then you got
Lamar Jackson, Tom and about oh, you know, we didn't
really take them all that seriously. And I'm just thinking, okay,
but you know what about last year. I mean, there
was another home game the year before in which you

(42:09):
had the the l A Chargers coming to Baltimore, and
and this is a team that you um dominated in
l A just a few weeks earlier, and you lost
that game, and I'm just I'm just wondering if this
is all sort of a deflection towards the conversation that
we were all having in the moment at that time,
which was, you know, maybe Lamar Jackson is just not

(42:33):
a playoff quarterback. Maybe this is maybe this is the
first sign of of a flaw with Lamar Jackson, who
was fantastic one the m v P deserved. The m
v P was phenomenal all year long, but Dan two
post seasons in a row, he's come up small. And
when that happens, you do have to start questioning whether
or not. If it happens once, it could happen to anybody.
But when it happens over and over again, then it

(42:55):
starts to become a little bit of a trend. And
I just wonder if this is a little bit of
a deflection off of no, no, no, it was us
that beat ourselves, not so much them. Well, no, maybe
maybe it's you that had a little bit of the
problem and the fact that we've seen it two years
in a Yeah, I think that, Yeah, the deflecting is
is definitely it's got to be a part of it.
I mean, Lamar Jackson ended up throwing for a bunch
of yards in that playoff game, but there's an early interception.

(43:17):
There's the inability to tackle Derrick Henry. And I'm not
saying that that's easy and that's something that I could do,
but I just you know, I look at the at
the Ravens and hiss you pointed out, there's mixed messages coming.
There's Harbaugh saying that the layoff and by the way,
that that would have still been the case for them,
and and maybe something going forward if when when we've
seen the new playoff format, this c OKA is the

(43:38):
first run by really advantageous. Our team's rusty since now
the second seed is gonna gonna have a playoff game.
I think all of that can be brought into this
sort of conversation. But to me, I put it on
almost on the shoulders of John Harbaugh of if that's
the case, if they were underprepared or or weren't ready
to play, then it is the rest. Then it is
not letting his team know that this team just beat

(43:59):
new ng then, or it's not letting the guys know that, Hey,
the year before, as you said, we lost to the Chargers,
so we do have something to prove and didn't earn anything,
get anything from getting the top seed and having home
field advantage, even though it was the first time in
franchise history they actually had home field advantage. They didn't
get anything yet. They didn't earn anything yet, And I

(44:20):
think that message seemed to be somewhat missed because now
we're hearing mixed messages coming out of Baltimore. I just
and look, you saw that game. Did you ever get
the impression that Baltimore had a chance in that game?
It felt like it was over early. And that was
always the thing about Baltimore and everybody talked about it.
They were a front running team. They were really fun
to watch and really enjoyable, and Lamar Jackson was awesome,

(44:43):
and they were just a breath of fresh air considering
everything was throw the ball, running, run and gun, it
felt like in the NFL. And then you get this
team that runs these odd variations. They're pounding the football,
but when they trail in a game, you can get
to them. And when they went down early in that game,
I swear that there was not one point in watching

(45:04):
Baltimore and Tennessee in the playoffs that I thought, oh
no, no no, no, I'm not concerned Baltimore will be back
in this game. That game felt over early. Yeah, it
was fourteen nothing, you know, Tennessee, and I'm looking at
the just looking at the rundown of it. Baltimore ended
up turning it over on downs starting the second half.
Tennessee went down and scored and then they fumbled again,
and it was twenty six before you knew it. I mean,

(45:24):
it was, it was and and those things can happen,
and those things can happen with playoff teams. And it's
not a it's not a I don't want to pick
up part the words of Lamar Jackson, but there is
Now you think that it's going to be any easier
going into your third playoff game to try to prove
people wrong after the first two, you think you should
really underestimate. I mean, and realistically generals, they're the easiest,

(45:45):
the easiest path of it, considering you got the sixth
seed to come to your place. You know, like like
if you're talking about seating wise, it was even you know,
easier than the first time around against the Bolts. And
also the other thing when you look at this situation,
and let's just let's just look at what we've seen
in recent years in the NFL. There's there's sort of
a a an idea on how to win a Super Bowl.

(46:07):
And the one that's been used and you saw this
because the Seahawks really kind of introduced this to the
NFL was if you've got a rookie quarterback, and you
got him on that rookie deal. You can build around
him before you have to pay him, because once you
pay him, it's a little bit more difficult to pay
everybody else. You start losing people. Well, man, I mean
we're coming up on it's it's gonna be paid time,

(46:29):
Like the check is gonna be due when it comes
to Lamar Jackson and the Ravens and two straight years
you had a home playoff game and you blew it.
Last year you had a home playoff game and a
by and you blew it. Like it's not like you've
got all this time in the world. Like, I don't worry,
We'll be back next year. We know the NFL works,
asked Dan Marino, if you're going to be back next year.

(46:49):
It doesn't work that way, especially in today's NFL. When
you start having to pay the quarterback, it makes it really,
really difficult. And so if I'm a Ravens fan, like yeah,
you don't want uh, I'm And it's not me saying, oh,
you know, I'm out on Lamar Jackson as a playoff quarterback.
I'm not. It's two games. I'm not gonna go crazy
thinking about it. But I think the reality is a

(47:09):
is a is a real one in the fact that
you had to home playoff games. You lost both of those.
Now you're in year three, the schedule is insanely easy
from the standpoint of you don't travel outside the Central
time zone. If I'm not mistaken, I don't think they
go anywhere outside the Central time zone and you've got
a lot of favorable matchups on your schedule and the

(47:30):
timing breaks down. If Baltimore doesn't do it this year,
are they ever going to do it? And I think
that's a real question moving forward. I was surprised with
the stat that last year was the first time that
they had home field advantage. I know, like when you
think about like you know, the Super Bowl winning teams
and yeah, those times it didn't happen. So you want
to talk about rare occurrences and getting it done. Uh, yeah,

(47:51):
there was no better time than last year, and they
didn't do it. We'll see if it changes. Of course,
the Madden curse was put aside by what Patrick mahomes
last year. Now, Lamar Jack, we will have the opportunity
to continue that non curse. Well, what do you mean,
Patrick Mahomes dislocated his kneecap and they should shut him
down for the rest of the season. What do you
mean that's all right? Madden has been the same game

(48:11):
for twenty years, so I don't I don't know why
they have to change covers. Are you taking a shot
at Madden? Absolutely? Oh my god. There is nothing worse
than thinking you're throwing the ball all over the yard
and realize that you have just thrown for a hundred
and eighteen yards. You know, Dan, time flies when you're
when you're not throwing the ball. Really he Hey, I'm
sixteen for twenty on quick slants and I've got a

(48:33):
hundred and four yards passing. I'm thirty second in the league.
What do you know? By the way I found this out,
this is and I looked this up. It was probably
like a month ago. I saw this and I still
can't believe it. But everything that I've seen says that
this is accurate. How much do you think John Madden
makes a year off the game Madden with as popular

(48:54):
as it is, how much do you think he makes? Okay,
he makes two million? Okay, doesn't that seem like a
lot less than it should be? Considering it's the most
popular football game. Now, I'm a techno Bowl guy myself,
but it's the most popular football game and maybe sports
video game of all time. He's only getting two million
dollars a year. That's that is? That is Yeah. I

(49:15):
mean I did say a few million, but I mean
I guess he has nothing to do with it except
his name. How do you know? Yeah, here's here's what
I would do with Madden. Honestly, because I was so
obsessed to see how the end zones would look in
the Super Bowl that I would I would play a
season and hopefully the Seahawks would make it, and then
I would be able to see. And I remember what

(49:36):
I got it. In Super Bowl fifty I played the
Chiefs and there was a Seahawks end zone in a
in a Chiefs end zone, but Jonas I skipped ahead
seasons to see if they would have the Super Bowl
in Houston, to see if they would happen in Minnesota,
and at that point, the Vikings Stadium wasn't even open
when that game came out, but the new stadium was
in the game. So when I moved ahead the Super
Bowl fifty two years back, it actually had U s

(49:59):
Bank Stadium him in the design, So kudos to Madden. Now,
I wonder if you can get you know, order of
the new Madden and Sofi stadium shows up. I would
hope so see what I but I would dispute the
accuracy of that new stadium in Minnesota because if birds
weren't flying into the windows and dying, then I don't
think it's an accurate depiction of it. It was part
of the halftime shew. Be sure to catch the live

(50:21):
edition of the Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at three
p m. Easter noon Pacific. He's Jonas Knocks. I'm Dan
Buyer sitting in for Doug. We will break down some
of these NBA regulations that will be uh implemented in
Orlando coming up in about fifteen minutes. Have our fun
with that. But first we go, I guess kind of

(50:42):
to the news of the day where Chargers head coach
Anthony Lynn says that Colin Kaepernick should definitely be on
a workout list, and hey, who knows, it could be
a possibility that he could be brought into the Bolts camp.
Joining us now to talk Chargers and all things Chargers
because our executive producer Geah is a huge Chargers fan. No,
just kidding. Joe Ready covers the charges for the Associated

(51:04):
Press joints this year on Fox Sports Radio. Hey Joe,
how's your Wednesday going? Doing good? How are you guys doing? Yeah, yeah,
we are, We're doing very well. It's one of the
big headlines of the day. Were you surprised at all, um,
by any of Anthony Lynn's comments today about the possibility
of Colin Kaepernick and now it's crazy to not have

(51:27):
him on any of these workout lists in the National
Football League? I think that I think a little bit
surprising that, you know, he he didn't couch his remarks,
um by you know, we have the typical coach speak
at times of you know, we'll evaluate it when it

(51:49):
comes to it. Uh, the fact that he came right
out and said he should be on every team's workout
lift and that it's something that they would evaluate, but
you know, with the three quarterbacks they have on the
roster at the moment. And I think also the fact
too that really no coaches have seen their quarterbacks since

(52:13):
maybe January or December at the earliest. You really don't
know what you have at the moment. But I think
when we get to late July early August, when injuries
happen and everything else, there'll be interests. And I also
think it's kind of following up on t Carroll's comments

(52:35):
of last week when he said one team is inquired
about Kaepernick. Um Anthony Lynn came out and said that
that wasn't the Chargers. But also I think the further
push by Roger Goodell saying that the teams the teams
should explore working him out and possibly signing him this season.
Joe A lot has been made of this offseason. Obviously,

(52:57):
Tom Brady longtime Patriot, now he's a member that Tampa
Bay Buccaneers, well, Philip Rivers with the organization for a
long time, with the Chargers for years and years and years.
When did they know that they were going to be
moving on from Philip Rivers? Because it felt like afterwards
that they had maybe even already had a discussion just
seeing how emotional he was. But when I went through

(53:20):
to Carson palmer Uh separation in Cincinnati ten years ago,
quite frankly, it felt a lot like that with the Chargers.
I think it would both sides realizing last season, and
I think especially as we were going to the middle,
that the later part that this is this was a
relationship in its final stages, and that both sides were

(53:43):
going to move on. I think that the five and
eleven record made it easier for it that bore both
sides to kind of make that clean break. But I
think the fact that during the off season last year
with Rivers and last year of his agreement, there wasn't
talk about possibly reworking the deal so they could get

(54:06):
some salary cap relief last year and maybe stretch things
out a year or two, that you had the feeling
that in the Chargers were going to be going with
the new quarterback. Joe Ready joining us here on Fox
Sports Radio covering the Chargers for the Associated Press. He's
Jonas Knocks. I'm Dan Buyer sitting in for Doug Gottlieb

(54:27):
here on the Doug Gottlieb Show. So you take Philip
Rivers and obviously his history with the team, but you
have Anthony Lynn, who has been, you know, on in
the forefront and in the the the uh black Lives
Matter movement and what's been happening over the last couple
of weeks and now basically voicing what we have believed
throughout the off season and how this team is going

(54:49):
to change. What what do you think, like could Colin
Kaepernick have been a Charger or was it just not
gonna be his system to be in. Is it just
a per the world colliding or could you see could
you see a match now that maybe you couldn't see before?
I guess is my question. I think you could see
a match now that you didn't didn't see before. But

(55:12):
I also think with the signing of Tyrod Taylor bite
the Chargers last year and the fact that it was
a two year agreement that if they needed to go
with a bridge quarterback for a year to and draft
someone in the first round, which is which is ultimately
what happened, that that situation was going to exist. I

(55:35):
think that the fact that Anthony lynnon Tyrod Taylor worked
together in two thousand sixteen in Buffalo with Lynne is
the O C for most of the season, and that
Taylor put up some solid numbers really helps things. And
the fact that they want to go to a more
you know, dynamic and play action and run option and

(56:00):
maybe some pistol and more of a balanced, balanced attack
that the traits are certainly there. I think that you
know with Rivers a lot of the things that you
may be wanted to do in the past because he
is purely a pocket quarterback and on third and one

(56:22):
and third and two, those short yardage situations, you basically
knew what was going to happen. I think by going
with a different quarterback, different system, it lends more of
an unpredictability to offense. And also, you know, with the
offensive line, it's gone through plenty of changes this year
and there's a huge question to who the left tackle

(56:43):
will be. Having a more mobile quarterback I think will
help the offensive line from some of the struggles that
they had last year. Joe, in a perfect world, wind
is justin Herbert get his first start. I would think middle,
the end of the middle, to end the year, barring injuries.
Um Taylor right now is is entrenched in the number

(57:07):
one starter, and I think he wants I think both
sides want to give him every opportunity to to make
sure that happens. I think there's still a bad taste
in ky Rod's mouth about how things developed in Cleveland,
especially two and a half games in getting injured, and
then you know with Baker Mayfield's emergence that he didn't

(57:29):
get another shots. I think for both sides in an
offense that he's comfortable running and with how many years
he's had in the league, especially as a veteran quarterback,
he's he's going to get every opportunity to prove that
he can do the job. Joe Ready joining us here
on Fox Sports Radio. Last one for me, Joe's We

(57:50):
talked about the Chargers and in the comments that Anthony
Lynd made earlier today, kind of a little bit more
on on Jonas's point of talking about the future with
Justin her being the air apparent at quarterback. What do
we expect from this offense? Is this now a defensive
lead team? Because there's contracts this team has to decide.
Hunter Henry's under a franchise tag. You're probably gonna have

(58:12):
to pay. Joey Bosa, Keenan Allen is gonna want some money.
What are some of those tough decisions that the Chargers
are going to have to make and how do you
think those decisions go. I think Joey, you'll have to
get resolved sometime in the next couple of months. I
know he says he doesn't want to hold out, but
the fact that in the first year negotiating his rookie deal,

(58:34):
um it took plenty of I think he held out
until just before the regular season started. I think that's
something that both sides want to get done certainly, so
you know that there's some cost certainty there. Uh, Mike Williams,
I think they'll want to approach that too. I think offensively,

(58:56):
it's it's gonna be interesting. They sure they certainly have
the talent it receivers in a tight end the running game.
To me, you know, they lose a they lose a
Melvin Gordon, but with what Austin Ackler is able to
do catching the ball out of the the backfield and his speed. Yeah,
and Justin Jackson, and I think somebody who will go

(59:18):
into this season very underrated, but I would keep my
eye on. It's Joshua Kelly, the fourth round pick out
of U C. L A. I think he can do
a lot of the things that Gordon did as far
as that between the tackles type running back in tough yardage.
Did you know really he could He could emerge in
some of the areas where Gordon didn't. Fantasy football players

(59:42):
love you for that because now they're going to be
running them down for a late round steel. Uh. If
we even have fantasy football drafts, I think we will
at the point being Joe ready providing that insight that
you need. Joey appreciate it. Thanks so much of the time,
and yeah, enjoy the rest of the week. Hey, can
I add one more thing about Kaepernick while we're talking
about it? Absolutely? Yeah. I think really when we look

(01:00:04):
at any team going into this, going into the season,
I think any team that signs him or works him out,
there is a benefit to do it this offseason because
let's say that there's not going to be fans of
training camp. Everybody's starting from the same system. But I
think importantly in terms of fans not being a training camp,

(01:00:24):
I think if any teams were worried about protests or demonstrations,
that's that's really thrown out the window with all the
teams doing it at their facilities. So I think if
if this is if this is gonna get get done.
As far as him getting another chance, I think it's
certainly gonna happen during this preseason and maybe September. Well,

(01:00:46):
then I'll add on this question for you because this
has been my biggest question with this all because we
can talk about fit, we can with what team, we
could talk about the timing that is right. In reality,
he's going to have to sign a contract with a team.
And I have no idea, Joe, what the value of
Colin Kaepernick on a contract would be, because I don't

(01:01:07):
think he signs for one year two million, and I
don't think that any team is gonna want to give
him ten million dollars a year when he's been out
of football for three years. Do you have any idea
on what sort of deal if he were to return
to the league that he would play under. I think
I think it's gonna probably a two year deal, one
year definite with a player option or team option for

(01:01:31):
the second year. That way, it's a multi year deal.
And I do think it kind of it kind of
fits into a fits into a salary cap as far as, uh,
you know how much how much a team has um.
But also I think he's got to realize he's got
to go in and compete for a starter or or

(01:01:55):
some type of other job. Let's face it, we've seen
We've seen receivers and other other players who have been
towards the towards the tail end of his career, and
I'm not saying Colin is, but where there have been
those per game bonuses where if you reach a certain
amountain stuff, the money goes up. So I think you

(01:02:16):
can find maybe for a two million, three million days
deal and have something where if he starts a certain
amount of games or does a certain amount of attempts
with passes and everything, that deal does go up. So
I think there's flexibility for both sides where they can
meet in the middle and get something done. And I

(01:02:36):
think certainly, with the commissioner a couple of days ago
kind of imploring teams too, you know, look at him,
I think that I think it's certainly a team will
look at it. I mean, look, I mean look a
couple of years ago, when Michael Sam was out there,
I think Roger was on the phone in the seventh
round with five or six teams saying, one of you,

(01:02:58):
one of these teams have to draft them. And I
think kind of a couple of days ago with Roger
kind of kind of in his way saying I would
like to see a team work him out and sign him,
that was kind of the same thing for for somebody
to get this done, which, like I said, I think
that I think it will happen sometime this year. It's

(01:03:20):
just a question of one in the timing. Joe, we
appreciate the time. We'll do it again soon. Thanks Joe.
Thank you. Joe Ready from the Associated Press covering the
Chargers here on Fox Sports Radio. He's Jonas Knocks. I'm
Dan Buyer in for Doug Gottlieb. That's right, Dan, We've
got another Dan Buyer special, a topic in the world
of sports that Dan Buyer has turned into an award

(01:03:41):
winning game show. Find out the latest to first in
Fox Sports Radio history. That's next. But for all the
latest from around the world of sports, ladies and gentlemen,
the gas Man David Gascon Jonas, I got some news
for you. What that sounds like Dan was sandbagging what
he did back in the day. Just pulled a Dan
Buyer report card trigonometry an US wow, wow, three point

(01:04:08):
five as. I don't know, what was the lowest grade
you've got in high school? Dan, I told you I
hated science. I got a C in chemistry, and I
remember because it was a C four chemistry. I remember
that because I remember you were You were also saying that,
like they wanted you to wear a mask back then
you would refuse to do. Oh man, it was I

(01:04:33):
did better dissecting frogs that you would do in biology,
did in chemistry. I can still smell those frogs. Oh yeah,
you know it was frog week. Yeah, guys you mentioned
at the top of the show. With Major League Baseball,
the league itself released something commercial Rob Manfred. His statement
today says, at my request, Tony Clark and I met

(01:04:54):
for several hours in Phoenix. We left that meeting with
a jointly developed framework that we agreed could form the
basis of an agreement and subject to conversations with our
respective constituents. I summarized that framework numerous times in the
meeting and sent Tonio written summary today consistent with our
conversations yesterday. I'm encouraging the clubs to move forward, and

(01:05:14):
I trust Tony is doing the same. Oh man, Like
is that just the word salad? I'll say two things,
And I want to sports talk radio hosts talking very
normal that screaming, And I'm like to make a point,
but why didn't they do this three weeks ago? And
also how about the message sending again. The owners are like, look,

(01:05:38):
we keep on offering them deals, are not going to
accept it. It's their fault if we don't have a season.
Blah blah blah. And the players Association is tweeting out
there's no agreement yet, Like man, they're taking the bake.
The Union is yeah, but here. But here's the thing, Dan,
It's like you get these guys together and everybody's arguing,
and it's like, we just want a season. Was that good?
It was good? Should have at the want to know guys.

(01:06:03):
Away from all that, ww E resumed its tapings today
with a few of the shows of the Performance Center UH.
In a statement provided by WWS doctor Jeffrey dougas he's
the associate medical director, he stated a quote, all talent,
production crew, and employees on site at the training and
production facilities will be tested for COVID nineteen. I heard

(01:06:24):
for Summer Slam they're gonna have a mask removal removal match.
The first one to remove the other's cod wins. So
what happens does that? You know what happens if if
man Kind's out there, then does he turn in a
cactus jack? I mean that you guys are like just
gonna sit here and just crack jokes during a pandemic.
I can't be a part of this. Our game is

(01:06:47):
gonna be like Fords too, So that's all right, it's
not your fault. Uneable back to you guys. Appreciated, David,
We are Fox Sports. Uh, I take full blame for that.
I didn't realize anyway, Jonas. Do you hear about the
NBA protocols and regulations that were unveiled yesterday through various reports?

(01:07:12):
Very interesting, very interesting some of these. But they're they're
they're letting people know what it's going to be like
for the players when they get there, which might be
part of the ammo players are going to use for
not wanting to go there, Dan Buyer. But yes, there
is there is details that have come out because of this.
All right, and now is the time where we test
John Ramos on the new NBA regulations in a game

(01:07:35):
we like to call alright, alright, we're giving We're giving
John Ramos some trivia questions on these possible new NBA regulations?
Are you ready? John? Could be multiple choice to the
true falls, could be all of the above above. All right, John,

(01:07:58):
are you ready? Yes? Here we all right, If a
player fails to follow protocol, that player could be disciplined
by a having to listen to the John Ramo Show
to be suspension or see being traded to the New
York Knicks. I'm gonna say suspension. That is correct, suspensions
for a player who breaks protocol. All right, Johnny, you

(01:08:20):
ready for a question two on regulators? All right? Here
we go. He's saying number two. Non Spanish speaking, All here, John,
here we go? Which of these is not a hotel
being used by NBA teams in Orlando? Is it a
the Grand Estino, B, the Grand Floridian, or see the

(01:08:43):
Grand Slam of Denny's. I like Denny's and I do
like the Grand Slam, So I'm gonna say it's the
Grand Slam of John's quest for a perfect six? Here, John,
the NBA has recommended coaches where the these on the sidelines?
Is it a masks, B, mittens se condoms? What are

(01:09:10):
those condoms? Dan? What is that your final answer? What
was the first part of the question. The NBA has
recommended coaches where these a mask that's math. By the way.

(01:09:32):
By the way, John sent me a text right now,
I'll read it on the air. Um, what are condoms?
I don't know, but but happy Father's Day? Al right
it is yes, yes, sorry I think it's not alright.
So John, here's here's question for he is perfect ish

(01:09:52):
here through the first three questions of regulators. Question for
the NBA is setting up an anonymous hotline to rep
court A players violating protocols, B officials calling in vets
to Tim Donahee or see players leaving the toilet seat up?

(01:10:16):
The first one which what letters that that is great?
We should have signed random letters to okay John? Four
for four? Last question for me? You got one more
from Jonas as well. Players have the option to wear
a proximity alarm, which sets off an alarm that tells

(01:10:36):
you A, the hookers have arrived, be the pizza has arrived,
or see that you are within six ft of another
person wearing the same alarm for five seconds. I would say,
see that is correct. Proximity alarm is a real thing,
is on fire? I mean the real answer is a

(01:10:58):
all right, here we go, John, Last one to go
perfect perfect here to be the this edition of the
seventy two Dolphins starring John Ramas. All right, so here
we go John final One. Daily meals will not be
prepared by this chef a Disney chefs b Chefs at

(01:11:22):
Disney or see Adam Schefter. I'm gonna go with the
see Adam Schefter, John Ramos perfect. He knows the NBA regulations.
Hopefully the players do as well. Regulators. Did you like
who came up with this? Is you also thought of regulators?
Dan was the best ever. I swear to god. He

(01:11:46):
is the best game show idea man ever. Why all right,
Dan Buyer, Jonas stocks in for Doug Gottlieb here on
Fox Sports Radio. If you'd like to compliment Dan on
his latest game show bonanza here at Dan Buyer on Fox.

(01:12:07):
At Dan Buyro on Fox. All right. Coming up next, Um,
somebody on the Fox Sports Radio airwaves has made a
bold prediction involving two quarterbacks in the same division. Find
out who it is next year on FSR. Be sure
to catch the live edition of The Doug gott Leap
Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific. It

(01:12:28):
sure is. I'm Dan Buyer, He's Jonas Knocks. Get Jonas
on Twitter at d Jonas Knocks. I met Dan Buyer
on Fox. We are in for Doug today. Just because
Doug is out doesn't mean we won't hear something great
or interesting from another Fox Sports Radio or FS one
property in a segment we like to call now Jonas.

(01:12:48):
This was Colin cow heard earlier today on The Herd
reacting to Pro football focuses predicting that Joe Burrow of
the Bengals will have a better season than Baker Mayfield.
Forget the fact that Baker has better weapons, maybe a
better coach, more experienced in an infinitely better offensive line.
Joe burrows hype now is it's the train is off

(01:13:11):
the tracks, average arm, bad old line, dysfunction in the
front office, worse roster easily in his division. If the
numbers Pro Football Focus on Baker are accurate that he
will throw for fewer touchdowns than Gardner Minshoe last year,
then Pro Football Focus is acknowledging they whipped on Baker

(01:13:33):
Mayfield because they loved him out of college. You can't
beat Lamar Jackson, Big Ben and if Joe Burrows better
as a rookie with that cast, you gotta make a move.
And I don't think that's what will happen. I think
when the year's over, Cincinnati will realize Burrows really talented
but needs way more help, and Cleveland will realize if

(01:13:53):
you give Baker the right coach in a running game.
It's pretty good. Interesting take there from on your thoughts
on that ranking, Well, I mean, first off, I think
Joe Burrow's got better weapons around him in Cincinnati than
maybe he gets credit for. Like yeah, so so I
think this idea that he's you know, going to just

(01:14:14):
this worst case scenario roster whatever. I think they're clearly
the worst team in the division. Um. I think their
schedule is not easy. Um, you know, their their second
game of the season. I mean I think they get
is that they they start off with the Chargers and
then they get a short week and they go to Cleveland.
So we know the numbers about teams to start oh

(01:14:34):
and two when they when you know the the likely
to them making the playoffs aren't high. I think this
is gonna be if Joe Burrow, Um, and you're looking
for a comp it could be like Peyton Manning's rookie
season to where you see promise, you see some some
signs of potential, but yeah, the winds aren't going to
be there. But that doesn't mean that the stats won't

(01:14:56):
be so pro football focused. Looking at look Jameis Winston.
Dan had thirty something touchdowns last year. He turned the
ball over a lot. But I think this is pro
football focus taking more of a fantasy football approach to
how they're viewing these two quarterbacks as opposed to who's
going to be better and have the better season. I
also think this and John, if you want to wrap it,
you can the The comps of positions aren't as far

(01:15:19):
off as he said. I think that the Browns are
going to rely more on Nick Chubb in running the
ball than the Bengals would be of Joe Mixon running
the ball. I think that mixing is more of an
opportunity to catch balls out of the backfield. I think
the Bengals are gonna be down in a lot of games.
I also think that will help his numbers and with
the wide receiving corps. I know Cleveland ads Austin Hooper,
but Cincinnati still has Tyler Boyd, a J. Green, They

(01:15:41):
had a T. Higgins in the draft. You have John
Ross there in the final year of his rookie deal.
So there's a lot there for Cincinnati and if they
are gonna be down. It's going to be more for
Joe Burrow. I and by the way, I am on
the Joe Burrow hip train. I think that he is
going to be a very very good NFL quarter And look,
it's it's the fantasy football approach, I think. I think
there's still some people that get they get confused with

(01:16:03):
better quarterback and better fantasy quarterback. Man, there were there
were times when Jacksonville was down three touchdowns and you're like,
all right, here we go. Uh, it's it's gonna be
um Blake Bortles to Allen Robinson or whoever the other
wide receiver was on the other side. I'm forgetting his name,
but like that was always a good position to be in.

(01:16:23):
Burrow could find himself in those spots. This year, He's
Jonas Knocks. I'm Dan Buyer. This is The Doug Gottlieb Show.
Could Colin Kaepernick be headed for La La Land? That
conversation and more coming up next. Be sure to catch
the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at
three pm Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
the I Heart Radio app. John Ramo Show. Coming up

(01:16:45):
at the bottom of the hour we got a lot
to get to before then. We're not gonna jam it
to the last segment like some other shows would. We're
not gonna do that this time. We're not gonna have
John Ramo's run out of time so he can't even
play his play of the plays of the week sound
are at the end. We are not going to do that.
Twenty nine minutes from now, you'll get a John Ramo show.

(01:17:05):
Thanks to Joe Ready or the Associated Press. He joined
us earlier to talk about the Chargers and also NBA
vet Corey Brewer joining us, who I tried to retire.
I I could have sworn that he announced his retirement,
but he's still He's still game for playing. So that
was that was my bad. You know, we should here's
another game. I just thought of. Dan, just now I
thought of this. What about Corey Brewer or Bernie Brewer.

(01:17:30):
You have to go into their bio and somebody has
to tell you is that Corey or Burner? Yeah, you
could have Randy Brewer as well. Just backup center for
the Bucks number is yeah, we could call it like
Burger's Bruising Q or something. Is that name Marty Taken?
I don't think I think I'm Michael Simon and I'm
gonna just laugh randomly and know I like that show.

(01:17:52):
I like him. He could bite into a piece of
brick and say it was the best thing. Yeah, he
really does sell it well. I think he does a
great job. There's nothing more liberating than when you just
look at somebody straight in the face and say this
is terrible. This is terrible. I swear to God. I
told I told my fiance's aunt to her face when

(01:18:13):
she asked me how the tacos were, I said, not
very good to her face, Dan back, I will is
it is early on in my relationship with my wife, uh,
pre marriage, pre engagement. She made a batch of cookies,
and she's a she's a very good baker. In fact,

(01:18:34):
brought some banana bread to work, very delicious. But this
batch she forgot to put sugar in. Okay, I don't
know how you forget to put sugar, but she forgotten. Yeah,
I I have no idea that happened. I'll tell you
what happened. I told her they were disgusting. She goes,
I'll take them to work and people will eat them.
Shut a fifth floor. They were gone in two days,

(01:18:54):
so yeah, absolutely, so just let him go and they
were gone. They disappeared, and she has remembered every single
time to put sugar in. But you could run over
in Armadillo, bring it into work, set it in the kitchen,
and at a radio station, it'd be gone. Oh, Happy
New Year nineteen. I just gotta still be good. It's

(01:19:16):
in the frid. I mentioned Joe Ready of the Chargers
that joined us on the show a little bit earlier,
and we had talked about Anthony Lynn's comments that he
made two reporters today about Colin Kaepernick. If you're just
joining us or if you missed that conversation, good news
for you, because we're gonna hear directly from Anthony Lynn
right now as he talked about the possibility of Colin
Kaepernick returning to the National Football League, possibly as soon

(01:19:38):
as season, probably a two year deal, one year definite.
Hold on, hold on, I'm sorry the the Anthony Lynn
cut from uh do we have the Anthony link cut there?
It is have you given any consideration to bringing in
Colin Kaepernick for a workout? That's something that's that's probably
on the on the workout. I haven't. I haven't smuggled

(01:20:01):
with Colin and I'm sure if you know where he's
at as far as in his in his career, what
do you want to do? Colin definitely fits the style
of quarterback for the system that we're gonna be running.
And uh, I'm very confident and happy with the three
quarterbacks that I have, but uh, you know, you can
never have too many people waiting on the runway. This

(01:20:23):
was my thought from the beginning of getting back to
three years ago. Jonas, see what you want and whether
you think Colin Kaepernan could still start in the NFL
or be a backup in the NFL when teams bring
four or five quarterbacks into camps, there were room for
him to be brought into camps. I mean, like, there's
there's not a hundred and sixty guys who can play quarterback,
you know, in the United States right now at a

(01:20:44):
high level, and he was a touchdown away from winning
a Super Bowl as being one of them. So so
that was to me was was always a farce. What
I find interesting about these specific comments is the point
with the Chargers because it could seem like a fit
the offense. The way that Anthony Lynn has been active
in social injustice, reform. Those are things that fit. But

(01:21:06):
now you have three quarterbacks. Tyrod Taylor your starter, Justin
Herbert the rookie who at some point it's gonna have
to transition, and Easton Stick is the other quarterback. So
now if you're bringing him into a situation where I
think you kind of know how it's going to play out,
I don't know like how genuine that situation is. And
while it's specific for the Chargers Jonas, I think that
they're going to be situations with each of the different

(01:21:28):
teams that that really limit the amount of places that
he could go outside of the salary that I always
talked about. I just think that there's gonna be tough spots,
like it's not thirty two teams open for business, because
there are gonna be teams like the Chargers who just
kind of have their plan in place and maybe aren't
interested in adding another quarterback. Cam Newton can't even get
a job now, and people are looking around going why

(01:21:50):
can't Colin Kaepernick gets signed? I don't know, why can't
Cam Newton get signed? I don't know, Like, and every
time I hear somebody talk about this and say, man,
you know Kaepernick, I mean, he makes a whole lot
of sense. Okay, than sign him. What's what's the problem,
Like if if it makes all the sense and the
it's people just are talking and saying these things about
how Kaepernick deserves to be in the NFL, but they're

(01:22:11):
not really actually thinking about this in realistic terms, Like,
let's be realistic about it. The Chargers aren't probably going
to sign Colin Kaepernick because their coaches mentioned they've got
three quarterbacks, three quarterbacks who have been around the NFL
the past three years, or at least have been around
football the past three years. Colin Kaepernick hasn't. And so
this idea that uh just you know, put him on

(01:22:32):
a roster and put it like Roger Goodell this week says,
you know, I encourage teams to sign Colin Kaepernick neat
like teams could have signed him before they could have
signed him over the past couple of years. I just
I don't see it happen, and I don't think he's
coming back to the NFL. I definitely don't think it's
going to be this year. And so every time a
coach comes out the Eagle said, oh, well, we haven't
closed the door on Colin Kaepernick signing with US. Okay,

(01:22:56):
we'll see what We'll see what happens, all right, We'll
see what happens moving forward, because you already went undrafted
a quarterback and you've got another quarterback who is worried
about his concussions and all that. So we'll see what
happens in Philadelphia. I just think a lot of this
is lip service, and until he actually gets an opportunity
and an invite, it doesn't it just goes in one
year throughout the other. With me, do you agree what

(01:23:16):
Joe Ready said when he joined us in saying that
it has to happen now. No, I don't. I don't
think there's a there's a deadline. I don't think there's
a we've got to get it done now. And in fact,
I would say if it happens now, it would feel disingenuous.
It would feel like he's just being brought in just
to bring him in, Like it's just like, Okay, we
did our part, like the guys, we we did our part.

(01:23:37):
We brought him in. Is it really going to be
an actual opportunity to make a roster? And then if
he does make a roster, he's not going to be
a starter. He was hardly a starter the last time
he played, and I was three years ago. I mean,
people like that is also part of this discussion, like
let's not let's not pretend like that Colin Kaepernick was,
you know, a good quarterback. Well that in And I'm

(01:24:00):
sorry to interrupt, because I actually think it's we get
completely mixed signals on this because he threw sixteen touchdowns
to four interceptions in his final season, but he wasn't
the quarterback that we saw leading them to the super Bowl.
Because I think that there's a misconception that people are
out there being, like, you know, the guy, they took
him to the super Bowl and the NFC, you know,

(01:24:20):
championship games and this and that, and then there's the
others being he can't play anymore, and I just I
don't think it's both of those. I think there's actually
that he's that he's actually in the middle of that. Yeah,
and he in the middle of that three years ago,
and he got beat up by Blaine Gabbart at one
point like that, Like, those are all real parts of
the discussion. I do I think Kaepernick is good enough

(01:24:42):
to make an NFL roster, Sure, Yeah, I think he's
good enough to make a roster. I don't think he's
a starting quarterback. And I don't know if Colin Kaepernick
being a backup quarterback on anybody's team benefits that team,
let alone benefit Colin Kaepernick. What's I mean? His his
old life? He is he wants to come back and play. Well.
If he comes back and gets beaten out for a

(01:25:04):
starting job by Gardner, Minshew, don't you think that's kind
of a crack in the foundation of he deserved to
be here all along in the NFL screwed him over,
Like I just I think he's better off not playing.
I think I think there's more risk than reward with
him coming back to play. I think what he's done
off the field and will continue to do off the field,
is going to outweigh and and and be in the

(01:25:26):
big picture, be more important than anything he's ever done
on the field, anything, any touchdown, any interception, any rushing
touchdown and he flecks in the end zone, any of it.
What he's done off the field is the most important
thing to his career, And in a way, I think
it kind of makes it more important that he doesn't
go back and play, because if he does go back
and he stinks up the joint and you can see

(01:25:48):
that he can't play anymore. People are gonna sit back
and go, this is the guy you were talking about,
This is the guy you guys beg to get back
in the NFL. Here he is and look at he
can't even beat out Gardner. Minshew. I just think at
this point it's over. I think it's I think it's
a fair point. I think that he should have the
opportunity if he wants to have the chance to do that,
which I think from everything that we're seeing today with

(01:26:09):
the commissioners pushed, with Anton, Anton and Lynn speaking like
this was not available to him obviously three years ago.
People will say to us, well, what about when he
sued the NFL? So did Eric Reid he was playing
for the Carolina Panthers, like so, So to me, there's
there's there's not it's you can, you know, poke holes
all you want, but there's the point to that, the

(01:26:29):
point to this, and then I'll just go back to
my point. You wanted twenty million dollars to play in
the Alliance, um and likely north of that from what
I have told, twenty million dollars now I can understand
you being the face of the league, Jonas, but if
you were to sign with the Chargers in a month,
whose jersey do you think is the number one selling
jersey in the National Football League? I think it's Colin
Kaepernick's with whatever team he would would play for, if

(01:26:51):
it would be the Chargers or whoever. So now you're
college Kaepernick, can you take a sub value deal? You're
making X amount of money for the NFL and merchandise sales.
That's why I just don't know what you could even
pay the guy to figure out what his salary is worth.
In addition to being out of the lake for three years,
like they're all those things. It's just it's such a
nice conversation to have, you know, and to and but

(01:27:15):
when you get down to the realistic nature of it,
it's gonna just be a lot more difficult than I
think people will realize. And and look, and this is
people can try and dismiss this and say this is
an excuse, but it's a real thing, and it's a
real thing in the NFL. Doesn't mean that it's right,
but it's a real thing in the NFL. The backup
quarterback cannot be a louder voice than the starting quarterback.

(01:27:36):
Can't happen. It just can't happen. That's a problem, that's
a distraction. That's why guys like Johnny Manziel, Tim Tebow,
guys like that just will never make good backup quarterbacks.
It won't happen. Even Eli Manning, Eli Manning had no
interest in wanting to be a backup quarterback because you know,
when you go somewhere, oh there's a Manning, it's Eli Manning.
Certain players are better off in certain rules. Colin Kaepernick

(01:27:58):
is better off as a starting quarterback in the NFL.
I also say this. Pete Carroll a week ago talked
about how gosh, you know, we really regret signing Colin
Kaepernick and he wanted to be a starter. That's not
what happened. What happened with Colin Kaepernick in Seattle. And
you know this from being a Seahawks fan. Right when
Kaepernick was brought in and they had him there for

(01:28:20):
like a weekend visit, it was in the spring. Right
after that visit, seth Wickersham did that big article for
ESPN talking about how the players on defense hadn't really
forgiven the offense for losing that Super Bowl, how Richard
Sherman called out Russell Wilson, how players on the defensive
side felt like Russell Wilson was the teacher's pet. He

(01:28:41):
didn't get a fair criticism like other players did. And
I remember staying at the time, right when that article
came out, there goes any shot of them signing Colin
Kaepernick done. Because if that's happening and you go out
and bringing Kaepernick, who's good friends or at least close
with guys on that Seahawks defense who were outspoken into
fending him and sticking up for him, you would have

(01:29:02):
had so much unrest in the locker room. Pete Carroll
would have lost the locker room and lost his franchise
quarterback who was the starter, who was already hearing voices
and whispers that guys on his own team didn't even
like him, and then you go out and bring Kaepernick in.
You could say that's an excuse to as all as
well as you want, but I also think that played
into the decision for Seattle not to sign Kaepernick. It's

(01:29:23):
not so cut and dropping. Yeah, I think that there's
parts that that is is there to you. I think
that that I agree with I looked at it this
way because Pete Carroll's comments didn't add up to the
situation that was actually present in the spring of because
he looked back and he said, I regretted that we
would have had that we didn't sign Colin Kaepernick at

(01:29:43):
that time. They've never brought in a quarterback to challenge
Russell Wilson. Never, in fact, they have. They have let
guys stay around the late tavirus. Jackson was not brought
in because he could pick up where Russell Wilson was
left off. He just he kind of knew the offense
and was liked by the team. Like the There wasn't
like a lot of value there. They haven't put any
value into their backup quarterback for years, So why they

(01:30:05):
all of a sudden would have started to do it
with Colin Kaepernick just didn't make any sense. And so
if Pete's gonna say one thing now compared to what
he said three years ago and said he's a starter
in the league, Well, wouldn't you want a capable backup
in the National Football League? Is that their message that
they're saying, well, he's a starter in the league, we
don't want, you know, we don't want Russell Wilson to

(01:30:26):
be challenged. That wasn't part of it. Just seeing that
Pete's message was very very mixed from seventeen, because if
it was the way in seventeen, he wouldn't have said
that he would have he regretted not signing him three
years later. That just it doesn't make sense. It doesn't
match up. It doesn't make any sense at all. I mean,
I didn't think we needed to take out Seneca Wallace
like that. Apparently apparently. I mean, I didn't know that

(01:30:48):
was Wallace's Hasslebeck's back up. You know, listen, man, I'm
just going down sacks. What do you want for me?
It's all good. I mean, by the way, if you
want to reach Dan on Twitter, you can do so
at I hate Rick Meyer, where you can find Chambre
for all the latest on that. But now it is look,
he gets an invite to a camp. Good for him.

(01:31:11):
I think I even saw a quote. I can't confirm
this because it was Twitter, so who knows. It could
have all been alive. But even the President Donald Trump
said if he's if his ability is there, he should
get a second shot. So maybe there is some some
momentum for that happening. I just think if it doesn't happen,
I I think it's almost better off for Kaepernick. I

(01:31:32):
think it's better off because look, he's not going to
go broke. I mean, but he's got he's got a
Nike deal, He's got all sorts of things that this
is no longer about money. If he really wants an opportunity,
he wants to come back, give him an opportunity. But
I just think he's better off staying out, honestly, fair enough.
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
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(01:31:52):
Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. New
John Ramo Show coming up at the bottom of the hour.
He is Jonahs Knocks. I'm Dan Buyer sitting in for Doug. Today.
John Ramos is here, David gast Guns at the news desk.
He'll give us the latest of what's happening right before
that John Ramos show, And again today is a Gavin

(01:32:14):
Kinsel production following. I think later on today we have
a this is a lead to lap production coming up.
So just that's inside joke here. I've always felt that
the guys who produced the show should have their own
stinger like you would see at the what end of
a TV show? Maybe and just so they you could
have their fingerprints all over it. But we got a

(01:32:35):
new John Ramo show coming up in ten. I don't
think we have enough room in the system because we
have to add another Ramos drop it. That's true. If
the John Ramos show false flat today, uh, it still
wouldn't be the worst idea that we had heard in
the month of June, because that award has already been
locked up by one Kyrie Irving of the Brooklyn Nuts

(01:32:57):
and the whole hubbub of not wanting players to go
to Orlando and trying to get them to stand up
and be a part of social reform according to Kyrie
in changing uh, the direction of the NBA resuming Kyrie
maybe leading a charge to put it to a halt.
We also found out this nugget I believe it was.

(01:33:19):
It was the New York Daily News. Was that where
it was from that reported that Kyrie Irving and this
is also throughout the season is thrown feelers out there.
Two players in the league says that the players should
consider starting their own league. I think one of the
top five worst ideas that we've had in sports. And

(01:33:41):
and then like I love the response, Like once the
report came out, Kyrie left the group chat this this
is why, this is why people have a hard time
taking some of these NBA stories seriously. Like, I think
this is also part of the reason why the ratings
have sagged because instead of like talking about stuff like,
you know, actually involving basketball, it's hey, did you hear

(01:34:04):
that Draymond Queen liked a tweet that was bashing Aisha Curry?
Like this is what the NBA has been come, manchool Yeah,
with a gossip. It's so if the NBA players broke
off informed their own league, some of the players, would
you cheer for the Golden State Warriors or in this case,

(01:34:27):
the Draymond Green Giants, Like I'm sorry, one is a
little bit more work of name recognition in branding. I
have no idea how the players would think that they
would get paid to do this. Maybe sponsorships come in,
but the the whole idea of just we'll start our
own league. Okay, all right, go ahead and do that.

(01:34:49):
Let's see that. And and there was a report that
Kevin Durant was approached on the topic during the season,
and he wasn't a big fan of it. But it
is to me one the craziest and I'll just say
worst ideas that I have heard in sports over the over.
I wouldn't even say the last year, like this could
go back twenty some years if you want to go

(01:35:11):
that far. It's like when you're sitting around with your
buddies and your hammered and one of them goes, man,
we should open a car wash, and for about like
ten minutes, you're like, yeah, dude, like we could do that,
and then you wake up the next morning and go,
what like what you're looking to your search history? Like
what Jiffy Lupe? What was I looking at? We we
always talked about Food Network, and we always always already

(01:35:32):
have today. Do you ever watch Restaurant and Possible with
Robert Irvine? Did you ever see that? Can't? I don't
trust it? Trust it? Well, the point is is he
always encounters people who wanted to open a restaurant because
everybody thinks that their recipe for meat loaf or fried
chicken is just gonna sweep the town off their feet.

(01:35:55):
It's going to be the place that everybody like wants
to go, and it's not the case. And he's always like,
you know, the people are like, yeah, I was in
you know, marketing for twenty years and I just wanted
to open a business. And he's like, why would you
want to do that? You know, why would you want
to open a restaurant. Yeah, it's an awful idea. It's
a pain in the ass. My brother owns a restaurant
to pain in the ass, pain in the ass. He's

(01:36:16):
owned two restaurants. It's a pain in the ass. The
hours are on Godly. The stuff you think is a
great idea, you realize two weeks and nobody's buying and
it's a waste of product. Like it's a it's a
terrible idea. You've really got to sacrifice everything for it.
And so the idea that Kyrie Irving was sitting around,
you know, probably drinking whatever alcohol he was asking for

(01:36:37):
on the Orlando trip when they're on the original call
and he's like, you know, we should do we should
start our own league. Yeah, that's a good idea. That's
a good one. I want you to design a space
shuttle while you're at it, too, Like you like my
logo for my bad Uh speaking of bad to go
along those lines, I think it rivals some of some

(01:36:58):
bad ideas we've had in boards. I think hi ress
top five, I really do. I think it's I think
it's bad. I I will go along with home field
advantage for the World Series for the All Star Game.
And the reason I bring it up because I just
remember one year Hank Blaylock of the Texas Rangers won

(01:37:19):
the All Star Game for the American League when Texas
was like thirty games out of first place. So you're
having last place teams to determine who could win the
World Series or who's gonna have home field. It made
no sense. And I know they were trying to get
the All Star Game to be interesting and to be exciting.
I just thought it was absolutely horrendous. And the guys

(01:37:40):
at the end that we're playing at the end of
those games likely weren't going to be in a pennant
chase anyway because you had to have the one representative
from each team. So I think that is a top
five bad idea of all time in sports. Yeah, you
remember that one time when the NFL DAN thought it
would be a good idea to have pass interfere interviews.
Such a good idea it was. I mean it was

(01:38:02):
so seamless. I mean, it works so well and was
really effective, you know, because officials retired of getting criticized,
so they just pretended like, no, it's not conclusive. What
do you mean it's not conclusive. He's you know, but
a little wishy washy here. That was a the idea.
The intent was good. Horrible execution, thus horrible idea that
was eliminated after a year. Now there's a there's a problem. Okay,

(01:38:24):
there's a problem in college football, all right. There. The
the problem in college football is that games go too long. Okay,
they they go three and a half four hours. Well,
if you remember about fourteen years ago, in a way
to speed up the game, college football decided that, you
know what, We're gonna start the game clock after the

(01:38:48):
kickoff following a score. So think about that. There's a
touchback and then the clock starts and you have to
run your offense on the field because the game clock
is running out. See I had forgotten about that. I
I that completely went over my head. And then you
described it, and I thought, not, that's gotta be a joke.
Michigan and Ohio State played a one versus two game,

(01:39:11):
unbeaten game in the century. Michigan scores gets the two
point conversion to move within three. This is with two
thirteen left to go in the game. They didn't have
any time outs left. Ohio State ran out the clock
because you had forty extra seconds that you could run
off the game clock. So that was that was one
of the worst ideas to shorten college football and obviously

(01:39:35):
the rule not there anymore. So Dan, the uh w
b C is a boxing organization, one of the sanctioning bodies,
and so they had this fight card in Mexico. This
is years and years probably about twelve years ago, and
um on this card in Mexican, I think Nate Campbell
was one of the guys that was fighting on this
card all up. Maskay Off I think was one of

(01:39:55):
those guys that fought on the card. But they decided,
you know what, why don't we try something different it.
Why don't we read the judges scorecards in between rounds.
You know, everybody's complaining, everybody's complaining about getting burned by
the judging all the time, and so it's like, hey,
why don't we do open scoring. Let's expose these people
when it comes to scoring these fights. And then all
of a sudden it came to the end of the
fight and they go to read off the scorecards and

(01:40:17):
people already leaving because you know, we already know there
was like the the the excitement, the the big unveil,
the surprise at the end. Now we already knew it.
Like it's like it's like giving somebody a Christmas gift
with no rapping on it. Like, hey, try and guess this. Well,
it says Spalding and it's round. I'm gonna go with
a basketball. What do you mean he needs to win

(01:40:39):
this round ten one? It's like the dumbest That's why
whenever there's a bad score in the fight and people
run with these there should be open scoring. I go listen,
I know that seems like a really good idea. It's horrible.
I've seen it play out before. It was awful. Oh man,
I as long as he doesn't get knocked down eighteen

(01:40:59):
times in this round, I think we're good. I just
don't know, like who who thinks of that crap? Man?
I mean it's it's like, you know, if you had
an announcer, and you wanted to do something special with
him on the sidelines, you know, Dan Hey. By the way,
I wanted to put the n C double a tournament
expanding from six to sixty five and out of sixty eight.
But those ideas are actually worse. I mean, I I

(01:41:23):
didn't like the expansion of the tournament, but nothing tops
what happened in boxing, or college football, or the nfl A,
Major League Baseball, or Kyrie's idea for that matter. I
didn't I honestly did not even remember that college football thing.
Like for like I I looked the thought it was
a good thought, but my god, did anybody think that through?
Did anybody think out all the possible scenarios of that happening?

(01:41:44):
It was, I mean, think about that, like the guy
takes a knee and you gotta have your uh offense
sprint on the field and listen. And I'm and I'm
and I've said this before. Out here on the West Coast,
the CBS, the SEC on CBS games that start at
twelve thirty when like you know, the four thirty Pacific
seven thirty Eastern time games are kicking off and there's

(01:42:05):
six minutes left in the fourth quarter in Baton Rouge.
Maybe we gotta speed this new up a little bit,
you know, just say it's like, maybe maybe we gotta
do something here. And that happens all the time in
college football. And you can find John Ramos. You know
you're getting any better than this. I think it's the

(01:42:25):
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My regular sidekick, Ryan Music not here today again in
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g K what is going on? Until that shot? It

(01:43:33):
was great to be here on another John Ramas show.
Hashtag the John Ramas Show. Yeah, even looks like MLB
commissioner man for it is now reaching out one last
time to try and get the MLB season started, but
it's still could be canceled. Gavin, I can really relate
to those players, though, what do you mean? John well
Susannah has threatened to restart our Love Life after canceling

(01:43:54):
it for the last nineteen months. God a c green, though,
he added hard does taking steroids really mean you're a
bad person? That's next on The John Ramos Show, Dan,
I'm gonna run across the street. Okay, yeah, go ahead.

(01:44:17):
Do you want those fries or do you want to
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Alipa man. You may have gotten it right, Dad, I
love to hear that English sound. We will chat with

(01:44:37):
her a little later on the show, Davin, you and
the crew can ask a couple of questions as well.
Don't forget to give us your thoughts on the latest poll.
Still time to vote. Also, we are celebrating a big
sports birthday guys. Scottish golfer Tom Morris, Scottish winner of
the British Open. He'll be a hundred and nine years
young today. You want the British Open in eight So

(01:44:59):
that's old Tom. But now here's some things we can't
sleep on, guys. I was thinking, what are some sports
stories or themes that some people overlook and you just
can't sleep on them? A lot of people just miss
the facts. In fact, how about this one? The Kansas

(01:45:20):
City Chiefs arguably the best quarterback in football and I
think they may have won the Super Bowl? Gavin, can
you double check that for me? But don't sleep on
the Chiefs. MLB wise, I may be going out of
the limb right now, but don't sleep on the New
York Yankees. They have some of the best power hitters

(01:45:42):
in baseball. And what else can you say? Keep an
eye on those Bronze Bombers. Don't sleep on them. Last,
but not least, a team that can be overlooked as
the NBA looks to resume. But don't you dare sleep
on the Milwaukee Bucks a year the dear, That's what
I say. They may they may be on the bubble,

(01:46:05):
but could be in the bubble of champions, Dan Jonas,
don't sleep on the Bucks? Do any sports players really
need to practice or prep for the season to be good?
That's next on the John Ronalds Show, buck a Use
do you ever hear that No Doubt song? Don't sleep? Oh? Man,

(01:46:33):
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I can't wait to ask her tons of questions about
her career, plus maybe some other sports questions like why
are the Charlotte Hornets still in the NBA? Come on?
That's so stay tuned. Also, we'll dig deep into the
sports bag for something no one is talking about. It's

(01:46:54):
almost like TV or radio silence. Is Aaron Rogers still
a top quarterback? Shocking? Inside us? Next? Plus, I have
some big personal news to announced later on the show.
Let's just say Navy football anyone. Well, it's been a while.
You the loyal listeners, send me emails, text, so it's
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(01:47:16):
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Show mail bag. Carny car shuh, Well, well what do

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you have for me? Guys? I'm waiting for the biggest
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This comes from Vincent d C. Hey, John, I love
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right now. Please tell me some good news. That's a
great question. Wow, such a good question from Vince and

(01:48:06):
d C. Vince. It makes me think of a scene
garlic makes a man wink, drink and stink. Let's move on,
all right, John, I got something for your Jonas, Jonas.
This is from Nick in l A. Ramos. I just
saw that the RAMS logo is still getting backlash. Is
there anything I can say to my friends to make

(01:48:27):
them change their minds? That's another great question, Jonas. Seriously,
and right down my alley. My best answer would be
in this scene when cobwebs are plenty, kisses are scarce, Dave,
I think you have one to read, Johnny, we got
one more. This comes from Edmund and Pittsburgh, Hi Ramos.

(01:48:50):
Ben Roethlisberger looks like a lean, mean fighting machine right now.
Is this the year he puts it all together leads
the Pittsburgh Steelers to another Super Bowl title? And oh Man, Dave,
today our listeners have been so good with their thought
provoking questions. These have really been great. That's the best
way I can answer this question is with this famous
saying where's the beef? Well, that's all the time we

(01:49:15):
have for you today. Sorry, do a lupa, but we
will have to chat next time when we just ran
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(01:49:36):
The hell, I'm not sure I didn't know the second
song one to pick up the phone, right. I think
that's how well we get to test it changed three times? Right.
What also is interesting is I had a script for
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didn't find the image in my hands three am Pacific time. Script.

(01:50:04):
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(01:51:06):
off the charts. Well, I'd like to thank everybody for
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it is. That from John Ramos. Now this from David
gascon d all right, what do we got for our
headlines today? Dave guys Uh, I guess we'll start off
first with Major League Baseball sixty games and seventy days.

(01:51:29):
That's been proposed at Core New Fox's own Kin Rosenthal
season starting in July and July with full pro rated
salaries and expanded postseason not only this year, but also
in twe and waving of any potential grievance along the way.
Billion dollars not that much? Okay? Are we gonna have

(01:51:49):
a season or what? Honest to God, I'm sick of this,
like because we're seeing these reports and now these reports
are being shot down by by other reports, like what's
happening here? Is there now battle between reporters. As long
as it's not on my half birthday, that's all that
I care about. July, the big forty three and a

(01:52:10):
half is on its way. I didn't know you're a
cancer baby, not a capricorn. So birthday? Oh I think
you said July Sep. Well it is July, but that
would mean my birthday is in January, making me a capricorn? What? What? What?
What signed that? What signed is? So? Dave? You're you're

(01:52:31):
a capricorn? Dave? Is that what you're saying? No, I'm
a cancer Okay, nothing. I couldn't care less about signs.
I'm just asking questions. You're the one with the thumb ring.
What do you want from me? Hey? Listen, Uh that's
a good point, guys. National Football League dever Broncos safety
Cream Jackson just tested positive for the coronavirus. According Adam Schefter,

(01:52:54):
has cold like symptoms, expects to make a full recovery.
And on that note, according to E. S Pians Edward Or,
multiple NFL coaches have some concerns falling the COVID scare
right now. They want a potential delay in the regular season.
So we go from Major League Baseball and a possible
season being played to one that could be delayed in
the NFL. Yeah, what's their reasoning for that? I mean,

(01:53:16):
what is the reason they're giving, And then what's the
actual reasoning, Because the reason they're giving is, you know,
for safety. The actual reason is, hey, we need more
time to prepare for the season. How about this. The
n b A is making making people wear human buzzers
in Orlando, and the NFL is like, no, we'll be
kicking off three weeks after that. We're good. Think about that,

(01:53:38):
Like they're actually wearing buzzers to alert you if you're
too close to someone, and the NFL is like, now,
we're good. Hall of Fame games, Steelers, Cowboys, let's do it.
August six. Do you think do you think somebody at
like I don't know, like like some medical professional is
like telling people to do all these things and then
standing back laughing, you believe they're actually doing this craft

(01:53:59):
that guys ressed as a beekeeper John Ramos show started,
So we still doing this? Oh no, guys Away from
the NFL and out of the Astro Hockeyley, the ANCIL
players won't be required to wear full face shields if
the season resumes this summer. That's according to the Associated Press.
The NHL and anhil p A have focused more on

(01:54:19):
the testing and other off ice safety precautions rather than
the equipment changes due to the coronavirus pandemic. What do
you what are the King's going to be wearing? Dave
there the re the that's a great kick to the face,
pressed that the press. We don't even know where they're
gonna start. Yeah, like, we don't even know that Vegas

(01:54:40):
is gonna be one of the cities. What Toronto gonna
be the other? They're gonna make that official at some point.
I think they were talking about maybe Barstow as well.
To Barstow, where can we get hotter than Las Vegas
Valley seems awesome

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