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Now it's also Midway Day. We have a lot of
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you know, like producer does come up with most of
the ideas. Dan comes up with all the ideas for
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Midway was definitely Jason Stewart's idea and I think we
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really did it because we started it in a summer.
Was it this summer last summer? I don't even remember.
It was a summer. And we're like, we want to
talk about something not sports. Let's do middle of the day,
middle of the week, middle of the day, middle of
the show, you know, kind of a midway sort of topic.
But this one's a good one. We have a goo
one that's upcoming in one hour. Dan Landing's gonna be
my guest, the Oregon head coach, and we'll talk about
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his team. They played a near perfect first half offensively,
seem to take their foot off the gas against UCLA
play on Friday night against Michigan State. He can join
us at twenty five past the hour. Yeah, and then
Daniel Jeremiah next hour. Dan Jeremiah next hour. And I
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think we're going to talk with Colie Sataki later on
this week. Right, he's the BYU head coach.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
So good stuff from Lee, who of course helps book
the show as well. The are the doug This is
the Gottlieb Show. You know, there's uh Devanta Adams seems
to be getting shopped and he's rehabbing an injury. I
thought this was interesting. So Antonio Putter said this exchange
with a reporter about the social media post he liked that. Say,
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Devanta Adams may have played his last snap as a raider.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Take us a social media posts earlier this week?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Is that something that was accidental in your part? In
terms of the post, I'm just focused on Denver.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, he yeah, that happened. Here's Paul, here's a here
obvious gonna say Paul Pierce. Antonio Piers talking about his
relationship with Davante.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Where is the relationship with you?
Speaker 4 (02:44):
And often.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Since lead that between me and Davante?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
H hmmm. Here's Antonio Pierce asked about the distraction he
seemingly created.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
This is as usually he's gonna keep rolling.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
I mean, his NFL thanks come up every day and
he says I'm taking over the job.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
It's been obstacles, so just another one.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Antonio Pierce said this about Dante's hamstring injury.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Davante's deal with a hamstring.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
He's rehabbing, and the rest of us are focused on.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Dinver here in the building today are supposed.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
To be rehabben. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
It's super weird, right, super weird. Look, it's pretty obvious.
DeVante not bought into what they're doing. You know, he
was unhappy though with the previous coaching staff as well.
And I think, again, I don't know this for a fact,
I don't. What I'm telling you is my own perception
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and interpretation. Like, look, when you've been with the Packers,
and the Packers are not perfect, right, They've made bad decisions.
They you know, they they're they're not the perfect organization.
But the one thing you do see with the Packers
is stability, right is the I mean Mike McCarthy coach
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there for a long long time before they then changed.
And I have a new head coach who's been here
for what is this like year four or five? Right, hey,
and Matt Lafleur, Brian Goodekuns has been in the organization
for you know, over over two decades. They are stable
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in a world in which you have a lot of
instability in the in the business world. They are stable.
Maybe boring, maybe they're a volvo, right, but he went
to the most unstable organization in professional sports. That's what
the Raiders are for people who don't know. It's not
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just that the Raiders moved. The Raiders cleared house on
the financial side of their front office. There was all
kinds of infighting and that happened. Okay, so the Raiders
had that happen into them. Then on the football side,
how many gms have we had here in the last
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seven years, like four and maybe five head coaches? All
of that instability is just it's hard enough to deal
with when you're a true pro like Devanta Adams's. Then
you factor in that you came from an organization which
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was solid, steady, maybe a little boring, maybe a little conservative,
but it was the polar opposite of the Raiders. And
I find it interesting that the between Davante, who all
reports were actually took less money to leave Green Bay
and go to the Raiders to play with Derek Carr.
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You'd always been a Raider fan, all those things, and
of course you have Aaron Rodgers, who you know, it
may have run its course, but the organization he picked
is as unstable as the Raiders. They are the East
Coast Raiders. How many coaches, how many quarterbacks, how many
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gms have they been through? It's always something with the
New York Jets. So again, I'm sure, and I know Jason,
you love this story. There's all these juicy details, liking
stuff on Instagram and whatever like that stuff is it's good.
There's some good. Was when Antonio Pierce was talking about
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players making business decisions, who is he talking about? But
I mean they have Aid and O'Connell. They're not gonna win.
That's their two quarterbacks are not good enough. They have
some good pieces to build around, but it's far from
a complete team. And you got a guy with one
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year left on his deal like it's a red to player.
This is not. I don't believe it has to be
nearly as tumultuous a situation as it feels like it's
becoming because Antonio Peers not handling the pr of it.
But I do think that's what's got to be interesting
to a lot of people, and it is interesting to me.
Is again, I'm not saying it puts green Bay in
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this bright shiny light, but you do start to understand
when you think about it, that, hey, you know, green
Bay is stability, and when you leave stability for unstable,
it's I'm sure there are people with unstable relationships that
then all of a sudden they get into a healthy
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stable and you're like, man, this is so much easier,
or you're in a healthy relationship and suddenly you're in
a toxic one and then your just world of spinning
because for however many years you were in a stable,
healthy relationship, supportive, et cetera. That's what Devanta Adams is
going through. That's what Aaron Rodgers is going through. And look,
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we can sit there and go, hey, both these guys
pulled the trigger themselves. They did, Okay, the ripcord was
pulled by DeVante Adams and by Aaron Rodgers. They wanted
to be elsewhere, and their wishes were greating two different
ways to do it, but they ended up being in
different places and neither have accomplished anything except for make
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some money that they would have made had they stayed
in Green Bay and win less games.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
You look at the story how you want. That's that's
my view of it. This is the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. DeVante reportedly prefers the Jets to
play with Aaron Rodgers or the Saints. Okay, what's interesting
is a lot of people, you know, he clearly wants
to play with Derek Carr, clearly wants to play with
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Derek Carr, so we'll see who he's up for it.
And I know there's lots of fool like, Hey, the
chief sneaed one. I don't think the Raiders would not
trade him to the Chiefs because it's the Chiefs and
you're handing them another AFC West title and you might
be handing them a Super Bowl. I think it's because
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Speaker 7 (09:42):
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Speaker 1 (09:51):
Stug gott Leab Show Fox Sports Radio coming to you
from the Tirech dot Com Studios. So Alabama took on Georgia,
and you know there's going to be lots of discussions
this year about what happens in college football with the
College Football Playoff. Well, look, you have Alabama, who's been
the most dominant program in college football over the past
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twenty years. In Georgia, who's won two of the last
three national championships. They got over twelve million viewers on
ABC and ESPN streaming platforms, according to Nielsen, which is
the most watched regular season primetime game since Bama Florida
State on the season's opening weekend in twenty seventeen. It's
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crazy I peaked at fourteen point one million between eleven
fifteen and eleven thirty That was when Alabama was holding
off a second half rally by Georgia. Dan Lanny's going
to join us up coming in about five minutes. Of course,
Dan spent a good amount of time at Georgia helping
build that program as starting as a linebacker coach, working
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his way to be a defensive coordinator, now obviously the
head coach at Oregon. But if you thought, if you
think the SEC puffing out their chest because you know,
the idea of it means more is somehow false, Like
not SECS is. It's the number one college football conference,
not just in terms of pros, but in terms of
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preach and Bama has become sort of America's team. They
it's interesting about Bama hasn't really obviously people in the
SEC don't like their rivals to want to get beat.
But it is interesting as a national brand doesn't feel
like there's the great celebration if and when they do lose.
Maybe there was some of that when Saban lost, but
definitely not now at Debor. But that is a gigantic number,
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you know, a gigantic, gigantic number. Doug Gottliebs Show, We're
on Fox Sports Radio and let's catch up with the
head coach of the organ ducs right number six in
the country. Fresh often really really impressive all around performance
against the UCLA bruin which technical is their first Big
ten game ever, Dan Landing, their head coach, joins us
(12:04):
now on the Doug Gottlieb Show to score on to
just score in your first five sessions, you know, first drive, eleven,
play drive. I would have to think that that's as
efficient as you've been all season long? Is that? Is
that a fair interpretation? In watching the.
Speaker 6 (12:21):
Game, we know our offense was really really efficient as
well against Orige State. But there's certainly been some really
good things done in the last two weeks. You know,
in the Oregon State game, drive we scored on every drive,
you know, scored on every single drive that we got
the ball. So that's the one piece is a little different.
We did that in the UCLA game in the first half,
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and then in the second half, you know, kind of
came back and didn't create all the same amount of success,
but we're still able to do some good things. So
good growth moments in the last two weeks for us,
for sure, on both sides the ball and certainly an offense.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
What's that like at halftime of that game, you have
such a good feeling and knowing Michigan State's a Friday, right,
so it's a quick turnaround. Did you adjust and maybe
I don't know, I don't know if you want to say,
take your foot off the gas pedal, But was that
in the back of anybody's mind that hey, this is great,
but we got another war coming up on Friday night.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
You know, we always try to reset it at halftime
and explain that a zero zero and let's go figure
out what we can still get better at. So certainly
wasn't our mindset to say, okay, let's go take our
foot off the gas. I do think that you can
adjust a little bit how you play in certain scenarios,
but you know, our our mindset was to go out
there and continue to get better and you know improve, right,
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That's that was always certainly the goal, and put our
best foot forward. So I thought we stumbled a little
bit in the second half, but we could have been
a little bit better there.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
What what's it like to coach Dylan who obviously has
played really good football of late, but a guy who
because he played you know, three years at UCF and
two years at OU, Like it's a little bit like program,
you know, using somebody else's VCR. Right, We're like we
got to kind of adjusted. What's that adjustment been like
for you to coach player like Dylan?
Speaker 6 (14:09):
Yeah? He has been absolutely awesome. You know, he's really
mature and he's unique, and he does a great job
of being him. Right. He's not interested in trying to
do what I want to be, who I want him
to be, or who somebody else wants him to be.
He's going to be out for thanking be himself, which
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I really, really appreciate, but he also wants feedback. He
wants to be coached, and he does want, you know,
to understand what I'm looking for, what you know, coach
Time's looking for. So I've been extremely impressed with him,
and I think just the more and more comfortable get together,
the better this thing's going to continue to look.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Your defense probably the most unheralded part of this team.
You know, you guys, you guys are living in the
backfield of the Bruins. I think eleven sacks so far
this year. Where is it for you?
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Where is the defense in terms of the growth of
where it needs to be for the biggest of big
games in the season.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
Well, we're certainly a closer, but still can get a
lot better, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
I think we're we're really good.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
On Saturday. That was that was the best version of
us so far. But I think we're going to continue
to see some teams with some unique challenges. But the
great thing about creating some momentum like we did against
u C. L A. Is that also creates some belief
and when you do that, you know you can continue
to get better. You know, I've experienced that with some
of my other stops when we've had really good defenses.
So when you can stop the run, you got a chance.
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And I think that sets us up for the future.
We're able to do that. At the beginning of the
UCLA game, I think there were minus seven rushing yards
in the first half, you know, So when you do that,
it really opens everything else up. You know.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
It is with the Big Ten, they think they're the
most physical conference, right that's you know, reputation wise. They
want to puff out their chest. And I know that Oregon,
you know, been predating you last year before you uh
kind of reset the tone of the PAC twelve. You
guys are a very very physical team. How much of
that is in your mind and in the words in
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what you say to the players about the reputation of
physicality with Michigan State, with Ohio State, and with the
Michigan game still coming.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
Yeah, it's a great challenge for us. We don't play
really to the I guess stereotypes like we know who
we are, we know what we do at practice, and
and that's you know, it's kind of been the same
thing for us the last couple of years. And we played,
you know, some tough teams like an Oregon State or
a Utah you know what you would consider physical teams,
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So it doesn't really change our mindset. And our guys,
like I said, they know how we practice, so they
can relate to that. But yeah, it's it's one of
those ones where you just keep going out there and
keep working and you kind of set the tone for
what your team looks like, you know.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah, yeah. What's what's it like for you with the
Friday game? In terms of I like, I always this,
this is my mentality. You play Friday obviously if you win, man,
what a great weekend and kind of gets you a
step ahead and maybe get a chance to catch up
on everything else in terms of the entire rest of
the world in college football for you rhythm wise, do
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you like the Friday games?
Speaker 6 (17:20):
You know, I don't. I don't know. It hasn't been
nothing I've done in a while. So we're going to see.
We were down kind of the game playing here, you know,
far enough in advance, like this summer even going back Totay, Okay,
I think this is how we'll do it. Weinket to
this week, did a little research with other teams and
try to figure out every way that we could you know,
make it an advantage you know once we get there.
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So it was certainly hard playing a late night game, uh,
you know against u C. L A in l A
and then turn around and having a short week getting
back at you know three am on Saturday night and
then h and then turning that that around. That made
for an interesting challenge. But I think we put a
lot of work into what the schedule will look like
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and taking advantage of it and then turn around and
be a Saturday game the next week. It can be
you know, in advanage. So everybody's kind of playing against
the same you know, the same rules and figured out
and uh, it should be a fun, eventfulence this Friday.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
You know, obviously you know your years at Georgia you
got to see the best of the best atmospheres in
the SEC. Austin is something that people have always talked
about and now it feels like, with your success, it's
kind of peaked. What what's that like for a guy
who played it, you know, William Jewell to walk out
as a head coach at Auton Stadium when it's just
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buzzing in a big in a big game, what's that?
Speaker 4 (18:40):
What?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
What's that? Like for you emotionally, I'll tell you it's.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
A lot different than William Jewel. Uh playing at William Jewell.
That's uh. It's such an awesome atmosphere and I love
my to have a jewel. But you know, yeah, you
get to pinch yourself when you walk into Austin Stadium
and it's packed and you're running behind the motorcycle and
our fans just do an unbelievable job of creating that
atmosphere for us. So certainly a fun deal for us.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
No, No, I bring up William Juwel because like, you
understand how good they have it, how special it is,
and how right. I mean, like like, hey, dude, we
used to do this. Do they understand how special their
situation is? At this level of college football?
Speaker 6 (19:30):
It takes a reminder. I think everybody needs to be reminded.
You know, when you are in your circumstance, right, all
you really think about is you're a circumstance, right, And
I need a reminder. Every one of us need a
reminders sometimes of how blessed you are in a situation
that you're in. And I think every single person I
know sometimes needs that, Like I said, needs that reminder
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needs that refresher. But our players are grateful. It's just
you know, it's my job to make sure I keep
them there in that same location.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Last thing, Coach, what is the one thing? Or I
know there's more than one, But if there's one thing
you feel like, hey, we got to improve on this
if we want to achieve our goals at the end
of the season, what is it.
Speaker 6 (20:17):
Yeah, that's a great question. Uh, you know, I think
there's a few a few pieces. Offensively, I think it's
creating explosive plays and defensively, it's preventing those. No. Now,
I think we've done some a good job of that
in the last game. But continue to be able to
do that, you know, consistently and something we have to
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it's going to take for us to be successful because
it is a big indicator of wins and losses. So
we had some explosives last game. We probably didn't have
as many as I want. You know, we eliminated explosives
last game on defense, which was certainly a positive. But
on the season that those are the two areas that
you know we want to continue to attack.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
All right, coach, listen, I know you got much more
important things to do. I really appreciate time. Good luck
Friday night Matt Audson against Michigan State, and thanks for
joining us on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
You bet, thank you. Dog, have a good one.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
All right. That's Dan Lanning, head coach of the Oregon Ducks,
joining us. You know what's interesting is and obviously he
wasn't there, He wasn't there, But it is amazing how
they really did change college football with the uniform thing,
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like buyer, can you remember, like I remember the occasional
one offs with uniforms whatever, But now it's become everything
with college teams because they all have all these multiple
uniform combinations and then people wait that it's announced on
social media, like should we go icy today? What should
we wear? Like it really is interesting. I would love
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to know what that meeting was like at some point
in time in Eugene, Orgon about fifteen years ago, and
they're like, hey, guys, Green not selling that well, not
selling that well, you know, not not bad, not bad,
but we could maybe do a little bit better. And
they're like, yeah, let's do everything but green and see
how that goes. And then we'll circle back with a
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green as well. I do wonder who was the brains
behind it, and at what point you knew this was
literally going to change the college football landscape and.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
To really get into the uniform thing. In the mid
nineteen nineties, ore again went to a Rose Bowl against
Penn State and it was there their old uniforms. This
was before the shiny stuff, so the Joey Harrington era,
you know, in the late nineteen nineties into the early
two thousands, they changed their look with the oh, that
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is the shape of Autsen Stadium on their helmet, and
then the green was sparkly, but they weren't changing their
helmet every week. To your point, Doug, all of a
sudden they started to switch up with the uniforms and
then you're seeing a black uniform, you're seeing a different look.
And then after that it was then the helmets come
into play. And it really is like, you're right, Oregon
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started this whole deal, and it doesn't happen if without
the Nike and Phil Knight connection. Sure, you know, but
it's it's funny because Rich Brooks was the head.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Coach of the team that took him to the to the.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Rose Bowl, and I almost like, look at Oregon and
I look at that is the rich Brooks teams, the
Ballotti teams with that green helmet and that O, and
then the Chip Kelly with the wings, and you know,
everything that went crazy and different. So I look at
their uniforms almost like their coaching eras. I know they
may not line up exactly, but that's actually how I
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look at Oregon.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
That's interesting. That's an interesting way I look at rich Brooks.
By the way, it's an amazing name because remember we
went on to become an NFL coach with the Rams, right,
But when he was at Kentucky, they changed the SEC.
They changed college football kind of forever because he had
Mike Leach's offense coordinator. And if you look back, like
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even after that, most teams in the SEC didn't go
to spread. But you know how many he had at Kentucky.
How money? How money? That's my mistake, that my mistakes.
How money? I apologize. I screwed that up. Rich Brooks
did go on to become the Saint Louis Rams coach.
They didn't have that, right, Yes, I had one of
the two. Yeah, all right, well we just we'll clean
that up and edit, right, we'll clean it up and edit.
(24:23):
That's what we'll do. We'll clean it up and at it.
Jason loves that.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
No, I just had I just had Sam dump it.
Anytime the host gets something wrong, we dump it. That's
what we did at the other shop.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
So we didn't.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Yeah, I like that he's a host, so vain. He
didn't want the listeners to know he was human. It's
a very in the moment, surgical kind of practice. It's
it's very it's very tight, it's very tough. I did
like that question for Dan, though, Dan, are you worried at.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
All that.
Speaker 8 (24:52):
From Wisconsin dam byer here in the back, are you
worried at all that the Buck guys maybe looking ahead
to that Org game and maybe overlooking Iowa just to Tad,
they are almost a three touchdown favorite.
Speaker 9 (25:05):
Absolutely, Isn't that really the mark? That is probably the
marquee game outside of Michigan Ohiose State. That's really the
marquee game of the year in the Big Ten.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Yes, the Oregon Ohio State because it's a Michigan USC
blending of the of the two leagues, really, but then
Oregon and Ohio State because those were thought to be
the two best teams and they blended. So I agree
with that take away the history of Michigan Ohio State.
I get that, but yeah, I think the game in
a week and a half is really the one.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Yeah. No, and it's it's a really interesting one. You
do wonder you know, you talk about overlooking teams. Some
of it though, is also like coaches don't always want
to put everything on tape that they want to show.
And you know, is that part of it? Is it
like not all the players overlooking, and it's not that
the coaches are overlooking, but that the coaches, you know,
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just get conservative because one the last thing you want
to do is is show everything you're going to do
in two You don't want to get it boy hurt.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Yeah. Or I mean if you look at if you
look at that game in the organ UCLA game, like
do they took their foot way off the guess Tennessee Tennessee,
Oklahoma second half of that game, I mean Tennessee took
their foot completely off the gas completely.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (26:22):
And actually this actually ties into taking your foot off
the gas ties into the Marshall Ohio State game. I
didn't get a chance to watch Dan, but they got
up to that. I think it was thirty eight to
seventeen at the half, and then there was no more
scoring after that. Do you think that you watched it?
I'm sure did they take their foot off the gas?
Did they were just unable to find the ends?
Speaker 6 (26:39):
No?
Speaker 5 (26:40):
They actually had big plays in that game as well
and dominate. Marshall dominated the first half. If you look
at you know the stats, Yeah, it was the didn't plays.
But when you're up thirty eight to seventeen, it's funny
that you mentioned. Yeah, take there's kinks, like, there's no
doubt like Ohio State still needs to work some things out.
They've got a lot of great players and names that
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we all know, but they're non conference schedule this year
and has not been what they've done in previous years.
They've been getting flacked for it this year. And I
just I look back and I just say, well, okay,
what about the home and home that they had with Oregon.
They only completed half of it because of COVID. They've
had home and homes with Notre Dame. They've had home
and homes with Oklahoma, they've had home and homes with
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USC before the switch. They've had home and homes with Texas.
They've they've done all this, so they've that is Genia Tech.
Virginia Tech was another one. So every year this.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Is can I defend a house state for you? They
don't need they don't need it. Okay, look I get it.
You know it's like you got to you got to
play somebody. Okay, but they play they play three by games.
None of them are terrible. They've played those by games before.
The difference is the league is ridiculous and you didn't
really know what you were getting into in the league.
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I mean, obviously, Ohio State, you spend that much money.
I guess the idea is you should be able to
play everybody. But if you just sit there and go,
hey at Michigan, State, Iowa, home at Oregon, Nebraska home
at State, Perdue at home at Northwestern Indiana, and Michigan, like,
that's a hell of a schedule.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
The other thing, too, is because Michigan played Texas this
year at Michigan took a loss, and so of course
I'm going to bring Michigan into this. But Michigan over
the past few years they're supposed to play UCLA, they
didn't even play them. Their their non conference schedules were horrendous.
Years and years and years. This is just almost a
one off thing with Ohio State this year because of
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all the other matchups that they had had in previous years.
It's just funny how people will cherry pick that and
it may come back to bid them. Who knows, good
bye them this weekend against Iowa. Could next weekend in Eugene,
but yeah, that'll be Buckey's by the way, wearing their
Speaking of uniforms, who want to bring it back wearing
they're all grays this weekend against Iowa, so.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Which I don't mind.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
But was that the one they would they wear in
the Michigan game, Like, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
They had a few more.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Yeah, they had a few different ones where they would
wear throwback uniforms and so on the double overtime one
where Curtis Samuel scored, they ended up that was like
a black helmet that they had that year.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
It was very weird. I don't love that look.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
I like they're all black uniforms that they're red sparkly
Buckeyes on them, but not the not the throwbacks.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Sorry, Dan, I did misspeak.
Speaker 9 (29:21):
They did play a conference game already again, Yeah, it
was the Michigan State game and that was a thirty
eight seven at half, right right, Yeah, and then the
Marshall game they took care of them. But yeah, not
the toughest non conference schedule for the Buckeyes.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
If the same didn't pay anybody.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
They they didn't play it, but no one who could
beat them.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
They took care of the Spartans in one half.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Well, I think with the you know, here's where the
contradiction is, like, you're you gonna spend all that money, Like, man,
how do you not go play somebody who brings somebody
big into your steament? And I do, And yes, most
of them are set years in the you know they're
they're but you can still get a game late, especially
if you think you have a really good team. But
I think they thought, hey, we got Will Howard. We
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got to figure out how good he is, and we
got to get him going in those first three games
before we hitting the meat of our schedule. And at
the end of the day, if you win all of them,
especially now with the College fall playoff, nobody cares, right,
nobody cares. Zero, people care if you win all of
your games, especially now because now you just you'd get
in the playoffs and we could argue about your seed
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if we want, but that doesn't affect anybody at all.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
And for the record, I love when Oregon wears their
old colors from the mid nineteen nineties, like we did.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
This past weekend against your CLA. Looked so good.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
The green with the up. I mean, that's cool.
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minutes and we can talk more about the Jets mess
mess Mess up coming in the meantime. Every Wednesday, we
like to do this middle of the day, middle of
the show, middle of the week. We call it the Midway.
It's not getting.
Speaker 6 (31:52):
It's time for the.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Midway, all right? Midway? Who suggested this? Because it is
a good one, as we've all come to kind of
a conclusion and agreement on it, which doesn't usually happen
in the group text, So it's like a couple ideas
we can talk about it on air. Whose idea was
most notable, I think it was Jase Stu. You're really
into this Davante Adams raider situation.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Yeah, And I'm glad you brought that up, Doug, because
over the past ninety minutes of recording content with you,
I've sensed a little bit of skepticism that there is
an actual rift between Antonio Pears and DeVante Adams. So
I sent a text messages to a person that's very
well sourced with the team, and to quote the source,
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I know you that one is he and Pierce have
been growing further apart for months. I said, when did
they start disliking each other most? And he said probably
training camp. Then you put the the public knowledge that
we know, the liked social media post, the business decisions,
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the phantom injury. I think it's pretty easy, and I
could be wrong. I'll leave myself an out, but I
could be wrong that there's a rift between these two guys.
And I thought to myself, what are some of the
most notable star player coach blow ups?
Speaker 1 (33:28):
I mean, come on, the three Wells, the most known one, right.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Yeah, I'd say choking your coach would fall into this category.
That's a good one.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Yeah, yeah, I thought i'd a good one too.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
You guys remember Jim Leland going off on Barry Bonds
sure spring training nineteen ninety one or ninety two. It
was like the height of Barry Bonds's belligerents, like he
put together MVP seasons and Jim Leland just put him
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in his place during a spring training practice. And like,
looking back and knowing how things played out with Barry Bonds,
I appreciate that exchange much more. And I think Jim
Wieland's got a huge brass pair of nads.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Okay, Jay Stu, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
I have another one. I was.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Sorry, he's got another one.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Go go ahead if you got no I'll save one.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
We'll go okay, right, not one? All right?
Speaker 5 (34:36):
The rivalry of me and my voice was one of
the top ones hear that battle.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Few we were genuinely concerned about you.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
I was generally concerned about myself, to be honest with you.
Speaker 9 (34:48):
But then sometimes that tickle can be the most debilitating thing,
Like you can just take over like a like a cramp.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Yeah, yeah, that who knows how to do a homloker.
It would scare me to death to have to the
homework to someone.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
I don't think it's so much.
Speaker 9 (35:03):
It's like it's more like you just have this little
like tickle something in your throat and it's just you
can't talk. You have to just got cleared. It's not
like you're choking on something. You're just something is in
there and it's like taken over. Yes, it's like it's
like a spasm or cramp.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
So I was able to rebound after a little break.
But I don't know if the relationship between Stan van
Gundy and Dwight Howard ever rebounded.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Oh yeah, that was a good one.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
But that confrontation when uncomfortable. Yeah, when Stan was telling
reporters that Dwight went to the front office and ownership
and wanted to be fired or wanted him fired. And
then Dwight Howard came over as Stan just said it
twenty seconds earlier, and was like, hey, you know, we're
on the same team, the whole deal. Like you're just
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telling these people all this nonsense. It was so awkward,
but it was so great, so great. Then Stan ducked out, like,
all right, I'll let you guys talk to him. All right,
I'll talk to you later.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
What you're twenty fourteen, twenty thirteen.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Probably after that a little bit.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Yeah, I can't remember the year.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
Him and Nash went to the Lakers in twenty four fifteen,
was it? Remember when Nash was supposed to make this
huge impression on the Lakers and he never.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Play played like a couple of games, do you play
any games?
Speaker 4 (36:21):
They paid him a lot to not play for the
next couple of years.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Since now he's getting paid to that coach. What what
you got there, Sammy?
Speaker 9 (36:31):
Well, when I was thinking about this list, or thinking
about instances over time of coaches and players, or coaches
or players and organizations having a fallout, this is not
my main one. I will get to my main one,
but as being a Packer fan, I feel like the
last five to seven years of Aaron Rodgers in Green.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Bay, there was a lot of code talk.
Speaker 9 (36:52):
There's a lot of you know, coldness from Aaron towards
the organization, whether that was McCarthy or Matt Lafleur. I feel,
you know, that just went on for years and finally
he was traded when he was like, you know, he
lost the Lions in their final game, his final game
at Lambeau and then it was over with. But it
felt for like a long time, for like a half
a decade, it was just like a cold relationship between
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the upper brass or the brass of the.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Packers and Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 9 (37:19):
But my main one is this, I think this is
a really good one O, two for one deal here.
This man has had to fall out with three different organizations,
and that would be Antonio Brown. Oh yeah, with the Buccaneers,
with the Raiders, and with the Steelers.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
And one with Gruden was the best, right.
Speaker 9 (37:35):
I think it was because you got the you got
the feet thing, the helmet issue he had an issue
with like I think he had a with the Buccaneers.
He had like a bad ankle or bump foot and
they wanted him to get out there and catch more balls,
and that's when he like stripped down and ran off
the field.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
But what got him run out of Oakland was do
you remember he posted on social media without permission a
conversation with John Gruden he published, like either the voicemail
or the actual conversation. I mean, that's a dirty pool.
Speaker 9 (38:08):
And didn't you get into trouble with Mike Tomlin the
Steelers for doing like Facebook live or something during a
locker room and yss and you know, he thought it
was funny and you know whatever, and then they were
just like, Okay, this is this is getting ridiculous. And
did he even play for the rate, Like did he
even play a game?
Speaker 1 (38:25):
One game?
Speaker 9 (38:27):
Because he was such and you were, you know, Doug,
you were talking about early in the show, how in
the stability of certain organizations And when you have a
guy like Antonio Brown come to the Raiders being who
they are and he can't even suit up for them
for one game and he's gone, that just shows you
kind of the dysfunction of Antonio Brown.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
No question, everything that travels with him as well. It's
a very good call. I got a couple I mean,
people forget that Larry Bird got Babil Fitch fired, right,
and imagine Johnson up Paul Westfall, but west Head fired, right.
Lebron's gotten many a coach fired, Kobe Gott, David David All.
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It's just everybody except for Spolster, right, Well, he wanted
for Spolster fired. That was that's the old stories that
he wanted Spoltster fired, and Para was like now, so.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
I want to say, more details have come out about
that in recent months, right, yes, like exactly what Lebron
wanted or something, and I forget what the details are about.
That's a good one. The magic Johnson thing with west
Head as it played out on Winning Time, which.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Of course, which, of course that fictional TV show based
upon some things and a true story, so let's quote it,
but go ahead. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
Winning Time ended after season two. Winning Time ended. The
final Winning Time episode ever in the history of the
two season series. Is the Lakers losing to the Celtics
in the eighty fi four NBA Championship or was it
eighty six? No, it was eighty four, eighty four, And
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I'm thinking, if you're going to call a series Winning
Time based on this, amazing Laker team. How could you
end your series with them losing? It's a horrible editorial.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Fit point, dork the fit point. I have more. I mean,
there's so many more of guys that couldn't stand.
Speaker 5 (40:24):
I'm ahead, No, I just want to slide this in
because it could be winning time for the Tigers. Parker
Meadows just hit a solo home run. Tigers have taken
a one to nothing lead on the Astros, and the
sixth inning in Houston.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
We're gonna have a lot of Parkers and Aiden's.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
I think, what a great name, and.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Parker's, Aiden's Peyton's over the next kind of ten fifteen years,
a lot of Kobe's as well.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
I wonder if it listens to Inside the Parker with.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Ro Ah oh Big podcast.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
In the Parker Meadows, No Midway, what about Billy Martin
and Rudge Jackson. Sure kind of like the Barry Bonds
Jim Wheeland thing, but this played out on an actual game,
live in a game, Reggie Jackson did not hustle for
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a ball, and in the middle of an inning, Billy
Martin pulled the most popular player in the game from
the game. He says, we're replacing you because you dogged
it in the middle of an inning, and Reggie Jackson,
by looking at the footage, looked like he wanted to
tear Billy Martin's head off. Imagine if something like that
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happened today, how much coverage would that get on social media?
Speaker 1 (41:41):
A lot?
Speaker 3 (41:42):
A lot, Doug, how about this one?
Speaker 9 (41:48):
And you let me know from like a historical point
of view significant of this because I was a little
too young to sort of take us all in, but
more of a coach and a school Bobby Knight in Indiana.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Wells, Bobby Knight is Bobby Knight.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
The ugly fallout right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
I mean he had supposedly a no tolerance policy and
then some some college kid walked by him said hey Night,
He like grabbed the kid. But I mean Bob Knight
had confrontations, right Neil Reid, he choked in practice, and
Mike Lewis, who ended up coaching with him and now
is head coach at ball State. Like, there's a Google
Mike Lewis Bob Knight on the sidelines where you know
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where Knight like grabs him and tries to you know,
knock some you know, push some sense into him, and
Mike Lewis is just super focused at the time. Gosh,
so many.
Speaker 9 (42:41):
Was back to Bob Knight. That was the chairf flinging
across the court? Was that in like the year two?
That was that towards the end?
Speaker 3 (42:47):
No, No, that was way earlier. Gotcha, gotcha?
Speaker 1 (42:50):
That was where Eli and that was directed towards the officials,
right right, not towards a Purdue player who's shooting a
technical technical free throw. So now, uh anybody else?
Speaker 9 (43:05):
How about how about Tarrell Owens and every team he's
played on too? We talk about DIVA wide receivers. I mean,
you know, it's been an ugly kind of fallout from
you know, even Philly, uh, San Francisco, Dallas.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
And I mean a lot Chatto Sinko struggle with Belichick.
If you remember right, I couldn't remember where he's supposed
to line up.
Speaker 4 (43:28):
That was a smart move for chadow Choko at the
end of his career to pick a fight with the
greatest coach ever.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
On the You think that means I want to get
cut and so that so that that's so that does.
Speaker 5 (43:41):
I'll give you one off the board a little bit, okay,
because it's it kind of fits, but it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
Fit because it's okay, let's just.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Go Mikeman against Warren's Sap.
Speaker 5 (43:56):
When Mike Sherman was the head coach of the Packers,
Warren's Sap was obviously member of the Buccaneers. Both teams
are good in the NFC at the time, but Warren
Sapp took a cheap shot on a Packer lineman, a
cheap shot that Sherman thought and Sherman postgame handshake like
addresses Sap and then SAT's like, you know, like what
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do you want to be? What do you want to do?
You want to you want to go?
Speaker 2 (44:20):
You want to go? Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Wait, wait, we forgot one. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Just
when you were talking about that Tony was it Tony
Kuk coach and Phil Jackson right when that Tony coaches
Scotti Pippen, Sotti Pipten and Phil Jackson when Tony Kouk
coach took the shot because the play was drawn up
for him, not for Scotti Pippen, and Scotty Pippen acted
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like a baby because of it. We do remember that.
I mean, that's the last dance I was. Actually I
was having dinner with some friends last night. And they're like,
what did you do during COVID? I was like, we
talked about the Last Dance and Tom Brady leaving New England,
and I don't remember what else we talked about, but
we sure got a lot of a lot of mileage
out of those two things.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
I mean, Brady and Belchick. That that that ended poorly too.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
Yeah, I don't know if it ended. It was like
a blow up. It didn't.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
No, no, it wasn't a blow up, but.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Okay, cool. We were discussing. If you look at your text,
the text said notable player coach blow ups.
Speaker 4 (45:24):
It was like a slowly moving degradation. How about next
week we do memorable, slowly moving degradations.
Speaker 9 (45:32):
And I would characterize Rogers and the Packers as that
that same way too, just but with a lot of
Rogers just being and far far to absolutely absolutely. Green
Bay seems like a wonderful home and you're you're you
can stay there a long time. But you know, some
of these quarterbacks they're eventually they they want out.
Speaker 5 (45:54):
I'm a Packer fan, yeah, but you were wavering at
being a Niners fan last year, right for a little bit.
Speaker 9 (46:00):
Man, When when brock Party puts up three oh five
and three touchdowns, no picks.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
I'm I'm all. I'm all for those Niners. Throw one
of those touchdowns at George Kittle.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Why can't you just be a brock? I guess because
George they had George kill too. You can't just be
a brock party in.
Speaker 9 (46:12):
A I'm not I do like those guys, but I
don't know. I just love watching the Niners run their offense.
It's so smooth, like when it's humming and all cylinders.
It's so smooth and so like well coached and just
they just hit their blocks so cleanly, and they run
through big, gaping holes and it's just a joy to watch.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Enjoyous football. We've done. We've done some baseball, done some basketball.
He done some football any other? I have no idea.
Is there any any hockey ones?
Speaker 4 (46:46):
Oh boy? All right, I think that's our sign once
we started talking about a.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
Hockey Okay, here's a question, Jason, without looking, how many
of the teams in the hockey playoffs? Can you name.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
The hockey playoffs going on right now?
Speaker 1 (47:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (47:03):
The Stanley Cup Finals, I think, yeah, I think the
Tampa Bay White and In are in it right now.
They just play a lot of sign.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Season isn't started. You're talking about w NBA. Is that
what you mean?
Speaker 1 (47:15):
No, I'm just messing with Jason.
Speaker 4 (47:19):
I think it was that one team that when the
puck got around the goal, they just kept cutting on
the ice until the puck randomly went in. I think
that team won the Stanley Cup.
Speaker 5 (47:30):
I do remember when Patrick Waugh was leaving Montreal, it was.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
Not on good terms.
Speaker 5 (47:35):
And then he was yelling at the bench when he
they like left him in the game because he was
getting lit up and they, I don't know they he
was mad that they pulled them or he was mad
that they left them in.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
But it was a lot doing one.
Speaker 4 (47:50):
I remember me and my buddies were like, more like Patrick.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
Right.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
That's and that is, thankfully the end of the Midway.
The Midway