October 3, 2024 • 49 mins
On a Thursday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show:Doug talks about the Brewers come-from-behind win over the Mets in game two of their wild card series and explains why the in-game experience for baseball games can be overrated.
In this version of Don't Call It A Throwback, Thursday Doug and the crew focus on the 2002 sports year.
Doug welcomes BYU head coach Kalani Sitake onto the show to talk about how the Cougars season is going as they are undefeated after five weeks.
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Speaker 1 (00:45):
In person or on TV. That's that's kind of today's question.
And I say that because last night there was four
baseball games on and I'm watching and I the Mets
are up three to over, they have three to two,
and nobody's on. It's the eighth inning, so I kind
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of got caught up in the I went over to
start streaming, and I saw what was it and I've
seen the movie Deadpool and Wolverine.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I'm like, ah, just kind of throw that on.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I had some other work to do, watching some other stuff,
like I was looking for a movie. I put a
movie on, so started to close my eyes, fall asleep,
wake up, and then all of a sudden, I look
at my phone and I realized that the Brewers win
five to three. So I go back or a wind
back on the TV and see what I missed this morning,
(01:38):
and Jackson Traio it's Hits. There you go, Hits the
home run, and I'm like kicking myself. And then so
I was thinking, Okay, if I was there, I wouldn't
have been able to.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Flip off the TV. Okay, if I was there, I
wouldn't flip off the TV, or I wouldn't have been
able to search.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
You know, It's like the ADHD kicks in and you're like,
I'm watching all right, let's just and I was like
invest did in watching the game a little bit, and
you know, We're sitting there talking and watching and you know,
and then I'm starting to think, Okay, I could go
to tonight's Brewers game, or I could watch it on TV.
Now full disclosure your boys like the keynotes speaker at
(02:18):
Wisconsin Basketball Coaches Clinic tonight. So I wouldn't be able
to get there right at the start of the game,
but you can go watch like the meat of the
baseball game if you wanted. And then I kind of
got into a further thing I would I would tell
you this, not only is baseball, does baseball have a
greater what's the what's the word?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
The jumping intensity?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
The jumping importance of every pitch regular season to postseason
is way greater than anything in the regular season, like
just pronouncedly better the intensity.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
NBA is like that as well.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
NFL is pretty intense anyway, it does get a little
bit more intense. I think in the playoffs baseball the
greatest jumping into density. But also it goes from a
change like regular season baseball is hard to watch on
TV sometimes because what happened to me last night was
I was in regular season mentality. Oh, hey, do you
(03:13):
want to watch a chick flick? Hey do you want
to watch Deadpool wolver Raine? Or you watch to watch
the baseball Like in a baseball game, you're like, eh,
there's one hundred and sixty two of them.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
One hundred sixty two.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
And again I'm watching last night, I'm thinking, I don't
like absolute statements, and that's part of what I hate
about hockey. Guy going nothing better than overtime playoff hockey, Like,
is it really good?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
I could point out the randomness of who wins in
some stray slap shot that you know that ends up
deflecting off of three different people and ends up in
the back of the net shore, But playoff hockey, overtime hockey,
great hockey, hard to watch on TV. Baseball. And here's
the thing, Jay Stu, you have. J Stu goes to
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as many Dodger games as he can. I would say
of the people that work at Fox Sports Radio on
any level, you go to more Dodger games than anyone
on the national anyone who does nationally does Fox Sports Radio.
If you look at our entire lineup, our whole lineup
has different producers and associate producers and all kinds of people.
(04:25):
I would say Jay Stu goes to it has gone
to more Dodger games than anybody else.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Is that fair, Jay Stu?
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Sure, I'll take that, okay, But would you rather watch
the Dodgers in person? In the playoffs or rather watch
the Dodgers on TV in.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
The play It's an easy answer for me.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
And I actually got my son wanted to go to
the game on Saturday, and I said, take your grandpa,
Because the first thing that I think about when someone says,
let's go to the Dodger game is the pain in
the acid's going to be to get in, the expensiveness
once you get there, and then the pain in the
acid is to get out. Let's rather be on the
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couch watching that game. And it's gonna be a big
game Dodgers podre Saturday night.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
It's gonna be a huge game Saturday night.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I think part of it is you're.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
You know, you're caught up in all of the other
which is a real thing, right, Like to go to
a Dodger game. It is the worst place on earth
to get into. It just is it's beautiful. It's intervened
and overlooks downtown in La. If you get the right time,
you look out the sunset, it's it's crazy. Once you
get in the stadium. There's zero bad things about Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Zero.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I am not a I'm not a hardcore or even
light cord like Dodger fan, and I can tell you,
as an Angel fan, I have so much jealousy of
the fact that Dodger Sam was already great and they
continue to add to it. And every time they every
sing everything they seem to do to tweak.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
It makes it better.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
But it is Penny has to get to and there's
lots of Los Angelinos. And here's the other part. I
don't know if this bothers you Jays two, because I
would be one of the other people. But the crowd
that makes up of Dodger playoff game is different than
the crowd that makes up a regular season Dodger game.
And it's not just that there are different people that
having come out. It's people that they talk with authority
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about things that they haven't paid any attention to.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
You know what I'm talking about, Right, of course.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
They start they start talking about the Dodger lineup and
talking about showing town. Like, dude, you hadn't been here ever.
You watch like two Dodger games a year. You're coming
up with opinion on this stuff. But they want to act,
they want to like.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Validate their fanhood, and so they talk to stuff.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
But I generally agree with you can you imagine missing
playoff because especially like, look, you have really really good
seats maybe, but you still can't truly see those pitches
on the black, like you just can't. And I'll also
like last night was ESPN, but I'll also credit the
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guys at Fox. They kind of invented this way of
covering baseball where you're zooming in and getting way up
close and personal and you see the actual emotions of
the moment and the facial strains and the facial ticks
of some of these guys. It's truly a well covered event.
It's baseball is not made for TV in the regular season.
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The postseason, I don't think it's made for anything else.
And yeah, I know the crowds will be full and
they matter and they care, But how good is that?
I love watching postseason baseball on television?
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Like how far?
Speaker 4 (07:28):
How long is the drive if you wanted to go
to the game tonight, like out forty five.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Hour forty five, But I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Be I'm not going to be super close, probably hour
fifteen away.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
I mean, it's just, man, I think that it speaks to,
first of all, how spoiled I've been. I've had a
you know, major League teams in my city, my entire life.
So I'm just spoiled. And then I would think of
that ninety minute drive to get there. Screw that, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Yeah, no, it's an investment. Right now, I'm in there
to get there. Then you got to park, Then you
gotta pay for parking.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I will say.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
The Brewers they have they have this pop these popcorn
stands that they have real Wisconsin butter, and they put
the butter in the popcorn and it's literally the greatest
popcorn you It's incredible. And I've gone to like four
Brewers games this year. I've gone to some concerts there.
Every time I go there, I get the popcorn and
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I get the next one for somebody else. I'm like,
try this, It's the greatest thing you've ever in your life.
And they're like, yeah, it's just popcorns. And then they
bite and they're like, what is on that? Mm, real
Wisconsin butter with I guess, real Wisconsin, real Wisconsin salt.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
That's so good, so good.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Here's ah, here's a Brewers Garrett Mitchell steps up. Uh
At steps to the plate down to in a tie
game in the eighth inning.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Like center field.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
It is.
Speaker 7 (09:02):
Here carried chall go ahead to run home.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
You run in the bottle.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Of the eighth City.
Speaker 8 (09:10):
So good.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
The other thing about playoff baseball is, I know, like basketball,
games can get away with you, get away from you
really quickly. It's one of the things about coaching that
you learned, and I do actually I know. I haven't
coached in college, but I do actually know that like those,
they can get away from you really quick. Football game
it can like, right, you can give a touchdown, pick six, like, well,
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what happened you blink? But baseball literally can change the
one swing.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Of the bat.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
One swing of the bat, you know, you can be
shutting a team completely down, then one swinging the bat like, wait,
what happened? We lost? It's over. The Mets dominated that
game until they didn't won one tie heading the Game three,
which will be tonight at the American Family Insurance Field.
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Stut Gottleep show. You're on Fox Sports Radio. Oh go ahead, Dan, I'm.
Speaker 8 (10:06):
Sorry, that's all right.
Speaker 9 (10:06):
If you're going to be in the Dallas tonight, Doug,
it would not take you just an hour and fifteen
to Milwaukee. It may take you closer to two hours. Really,
that's the case.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yes, what are the Dells that I'm going to?
Speaker 9 (10:17):
Wisconsin Dell's. Yeah, Wisconsin Dell's is the home to the
most water parks in the entire world. What it is
a summer vacation extravaganda extravaganza. Yes, everybody goes to the
Dells during the summer. But now they've made it a
year round spot. So they have indoor water parks. So
(10:37):
you have the Kalahari and they'll have an indoor water park.
They have an indoor amusement park. Yeah, it's enormous.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Really, Yes, I got to call my son, dude, indoor
water park. We are all about water park as you know,
We're all about roller coasters and water parks.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
You know, howlly did the outdoor water parks open?
Speaker 9 (10:59):
Well, here's the thing is, because they have to get
a lot of kids from around the world come in
and work the summers. So usually Labor Day is the cutoff,
like that's the end. So all of the outdoor attractions
usually will shut down around Labor Day, but the indoor
ones are open year round.
Speaker 10 (11:16):
Bulmer, because I was gonna say, I mean, you know,
I know the Midwest still having like a little influx
of nice warmer weather here in there, and you could
get out there, but I guess you'll have to go
for the indoor ones for now.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
It falls got here.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
It's a beautiful like early fall, high sixties, low seventies.
Last week was still kind of Indian summer. So if
they were if they could have had it open last weekend,
it would have worked. But now it's now, it's.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Probably probably too chilly for that.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah, but the indoor water park that sounds indoor water park.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
Though.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
You can get that smell of the chlorine a little
bit like I love it.
Speaker 9 (11:48):
Oh yeah, do you love that smell? But your you
know what's off in there too?
Speaker 8 (11:53):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yes, humid, Yes it is, it is. It is humid
in there. It is human.
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I actually got excited this morning because I knew it
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was Thursday, and I did know what year we were doing,
but I did know it's stone call to throwback Thursday, Right.
Jase Duo came up with this one, and it's just
his way of being the FM morning DJ.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
He always wanted to be right. That's that's the truth, Jason.
Is that about right? Like? That's truthfully?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Like if I could be the old FM DJ with
these really cool, sort of cheesy bits and bringing the
energy every day and then telling wacky stories and making
comments on like you look you at your podcast on
the Bachelor Bachelorette.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
What's it called the Bachelor Lifestyle with Brian Buckner.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Bachelor Lifestyle Brian Beckner.
Speaker 8 (13:27):
Bachelor Lifestyle Brian Beckner.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
So he's got that working for him, and he came
up with this.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Now I want to tell the listeners something. By the way,
since you brought this up, I need to I need
to play it. You talk about me always wanted to
be a morning DJ and whatnot? Well, at some point.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I think everybody want to be a morning DJ though,
but somebody.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Formally works here put me in a sitcom. I did
two episodes of Gary Unmarried, and just this week one
of the listeners brought this to my attention just because
somebody passed away this week and they're like, oh, I
remember that from that show. So this is me being
a sports talk show host on Gary Unmarried two thousand and.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Ten, ty Cop, Babe, Ruth.
Speaker 11 (14:19):
These guys were no saints, and now with all the steroids,
you're going to make an example out of Pete Rose.
In ten years, Pete Rose will be in the Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
You get bet on it.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I don't take that bet.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Pete Rose.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Now, granted, not the greatest joke in the world. I
don't know if it warranted that laughter, but I thought
that our listeners are going to kick out of that today.
I want to tell you that this is a segment
that is a work in progress.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
I had a.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Vision for it. Dan had a vision for it. I
came up with the name, and we're just kind of
working out the quirks, the kinks. Okay, time out, time out,
what's going on. I had a vision for it, and
then you thought it was a different vision.
Speaker 8 (15:08):
Hold up, hold on, yeah, hold up, hold on, hold up,
hold on.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Right, wait wait wait, okay, okay. So Dan, your vision
of it was what I thought.
Speaker 9 (15:17):
We would talk about the big sports moments that happened
in each of these years.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Which is what I thought.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
And then Jay Stew's like, hey, why don't we do
the FM Morning DJ nineteen eighty four was the year,
let's talk about what albums were hot?
Speaker 4 (15:32):
So this was how I took Dan's vision. First of all,
I wanted to own the name. Don't call it a throwback.
Speaker 8 (15:39):
That is true.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
It is is, yeah, because I always think it's funny
when people say, don't call it a comeback, and then
they tell you they're coming back from something, so don't
call it a throwback. And then I thought that since
every Thursday there's a matchup on Thursday Night, I could
take a past matchup of those exact teams and then
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focus on that matchup, and then we just make it
a conversation about that year that I choose. So we're
gonna kind of do a hybrid between Dan's initial concept
and mine. It goes something like this, Sam, do you
have anything like rewind music or something, to get me
into this thing. All right, let's rewind it back to
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December two thousand and two, twenty two years ago. The
Bucks faced the Falcons in a December game where second
year star Michael Vick played the Buccaneers for the first time,
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probably the second time since they play it twice and
twice a year. The Buccaneers kicked their butts. Now the Buccaneers,
if you don't recall, that was the first year that
John Gruden coached them, and he led them to a
Super Bowl title. In this game, the Bucks really kind
of mopped the floor with the Falcons. It wasn't even close.
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It was a thirty four to ten game. Our guy
Brad Johnson led the Bucks in passing. Mike Alstott starred.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
For the Bucks.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Great name those great defensive names for the Bucks that
are all Hall of famers, including John winch On, a
Rodney Barber if he's in the Hall of Fame, Derek Brooks.
It was just a one win on the way to
their one Super Bowl, I guess, their first Super Bowl championship.
And what I remember most from that year was this
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John Gruden thing to where like he led a team
to a Super Bowl and he defeated a Raider team
that he had just built and left the year before.
It's like it doesn't get enough credit I think in
the history of coaching. John Gruden built this Raiders team
that eventually went to the Super Bowl and lost to
a team that he coached. Pretty amazing, Uh humble bragg.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
I was there. Remember Barrett Robbins went missing the morning
of the game.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Bart Robbinson the All Pro center for the Raiders. And
then the story was that they didn't change any of
the audible calls for rich Gannon. So Tampa literally knew
exactly what they were going to do with all the
with all the audibles because they hadn't changed it when
Gruden was there.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
That is a humble brag that you were there. By
the way, this is called, you.
Speaker 11 (18:35):
Don't call it a throwback, throw back, thirst throw back.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
We're thrown back to two thousand and one, correct.
Speaker 8 (18:41):
Two thousand and two, two thousand and two.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Good to know.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
What do you got? Dan?
Speaker 9 (18:46):
Well, as soon as I found out that the year
was two thousand and two, my mind immediately went to
college football and what ended up being the greatest season
of my life in college football. It was the year
that Ohio State went unbeat and ultimately with top Miami
in the Fiesta Bowl, the National Championship game on the
third day of January in two thousand and three. But
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the two thousand and two season was really dominated by
the Hurricanes, as the Buckeyes the second half of the
year with Maurice Clarett's shoulder injury, each week was a
nail bider as they squeaked through the Big Ten wins
at Wisconsin, wins at Northwestern, most notably a win at
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Purdue on a fourth down call that they now call
Holy Buckeye where Craig ke Crensall hit Michael Jenkins in
the end zone and what was an awful game. How
do I know, Humblebregg I was there. I was in
West Lafayette for that game. That was what six to
three at the time, and the Buckeye season hanging on
(19:51):
the brink in that fourth down call, and then they
escaped against Michigan with an interception by Will Allen at
the goal line to preserve their spot in the Nation
Little Championship Game. For as dominant as Miami was throughout
those seasons and that season as well, Ohio State struggled
when Maurice Creutt went down with that shoulder injury, and
the second half of the year was just close game
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after close game after close game that just kept on winning.
Speaker 8 (20:15):
Them and then ended up winning the national championship.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
That's going, That's really really going, Sammy got anyone out on.
Speaker 10 (20:22):
The absolutely Ohio State story kind of ties in with
Iowa a little bit. Both teams finished eight to oh
in the Big Ten. They shared the Big Ten championship,
but they did not play each other, so you could
really say they were co Big Ten champions. Of course,
Ohio State with their unbeaten record and I really remember
that year. They Yeah, they won a lot of close games.
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The Bluckeyes did the Hawkeyes outs. If they did not
lose give up a huge lead to Iowa State at
home earlier in the season, they would have been undefeated.
They think he was like a twenty four to seven
half time lead. They ended up losing that game, but
they went eight to oh. They had Brad Banks, who
went all the way to the Heisman ceremony, finished second
to Carson Palmer of USC and when Iowa finished the
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regular season eleven and one, Brad Banks lost the Heisman
to Carson Palmer, and they ended up instead of going
to the Rose Bowl, they went to the Orange Bowl
to face those USC Trojans with Carson Palmer, and unfortunately,
outside of an amazing kickoff return for a touchdown to
open the game for Iowa, they folded thirty eight to
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seventeen to those Trojans.
Speaker 8 (21:28):
Did the Rose Bowl take Oklahoma?
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Was that?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
That's something like that.
Speaker 10 (21:32):
I think the last the last game of the regular
season was at Minnesota, and that's where Iowa fans were
so exuberant with passion and overjoyed in New Fork that
they tore down the gulposts there at the Hubert H.
Humphrey Metrodome and tried to run out of the rotating
doors with them and they couldn't. They'd like saw him
up or something. It was crazy. It was Minnesota fans
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haven't forgiven Iowa for that since. But they all were
and they all had roses in their in their mouths,
you know, like that that very commonplace picture you see
where guys that they finished a big season they have
the rose in their mouth, like we're going to the
Rose Bull. But they ended up going to the Orange
Bowl and a little bit of a downturn on the
end of the season. But a great year nonetheless for Iowa.
Well yeah, co Big Ten champions there with the Buckeyes.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
So we picked, we picked a year that each of
you had amazing college football memories. Yes, I'm feeling your
passion here and I just looked it up.
Speaker 9 (22:25):
The Orange Bowl actually took Iowa first because they had
the first pick of the teams that weren't in the
title game.
Speaker 10 (22:30):
I think Iowa was third, weren't they, Yes, yes, so yeah,
it was sort of like the Orange Bowl wanted Iowa more.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
They thought they were going to the Rose.
Speaker 9 (22:38):
They were fifth in the BCS, but third I think
in the apol at the time.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Number one in our hearts.
Speaker 8 (22:42):
Yeah, number one in our hearts.
Speaker 10 (22:44):
That I I'll just say, I mean that Ohio State
team gave you a lot of future NFL stars that
that Iowa team gave you, Dallas Clark, Bob Sanders, Robert Gallery,
a lot, a lot of big time players that go
in the NFL and have nice careers. So yeah, that
early two thousand thousands of college football era. It was
also sort of the end of like Miami and Nebraska
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being powers, Like Miami would lose to Ohio State in
that National Championship game, and they started taper off after that.
The previous year, Miami smoked Nebraska in the National Championship
Game and then Nebraska really hasn't been the same since.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I don't think Miami's fall was that quick, but part
of it was, you know, they had coaching changes and
then like USC NCAA probation and then you know those
they go probation, then they be fine, then probation, then
they be fine. Sam, let's let's let's test your knowledge
of that game. What's the most There's two memorable plays
(23:41):
in that game. Miami Ohio State. Okay, one of the
greatest college football games. I think it's probably a better
game overall than Texas USC, but maybe it doesn't get
the credit.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
And then there's the controversial call.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
So two big plays everybody knows that everybody remembers that
game by Do you know either one of them?
Speaker 10 (24:00):
Well, one was it was a pass interference on Miami
that was very controversial.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
That what Dan ended up pushing the game to overtime.
Speaker 9 (24:07):
It was in the first overtime that Ohio State would
have lost if they didn't call pass interference on Miami.
Chris gamble in the corner of the end zone went
up for it. I still think that past interference happened
before we see it on camera. I agree, and Miami
fans don't want to hear it. But what we saw
in film was not actually where the infraction happened on
(24:29):
the play.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
I mean, if you watch it still in standard def,
replay is far different. You're like, oh my god, it's
so much better now, yes, yes, and right sure.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Then and then it was the same game.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Coming up short on the second big punt.
Speaker 9 (24:47):
Are you talking about Willis mcgahey's knees, Yes, yes, Oh, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
So Willis mcgahe his knee went backwards, he got hit
like a helmet on the knee, and the actually like,
if you bet your knee right now and you made
it like a V, right, imagine the V being in reverse.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
That's all I remember about that play.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
And then you're sitting there going like, I'll never play
footballgain then, well, sis fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
He'd kind of defied that and had a nice career.
Speaker 8 (25:16):
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 9 (25:17):
Like, Ohio State couldn't do anything on offense in that
National championship game, but Sean Taylor had an interception in
the end zone that he brought out and then Maurice
Clarett stripped him of the football, and so Ohio State
actually retained possession and Miami actually had to kick a
field goal as time expired in the game just descended
into overtime. They also had a first and goal at
the one yard line in the second overtime and we're
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unable to cash it in from one yard out is
Ohio State had a great goal line stand and then
Ken Dorsey was kind of was hurt on one of
the plays, left for a snap, came back in, but
Miami was unable to cash in from the one yard line,
had four place to do so and couldn't do it.
We could do this whole segment on that game if
we wanted to.
Speaker 6 (25:59):
Wait.
Speaker 9 (26:00):
There were other things that happened end of the Lakers dynasty.
They were all the three peat two and two.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I didn't get that was that was we were going around.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Oh I'm sorry, I'm sorry around the.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Going around the thing Mine was in the Lakers Dynasty
two thousand and two to three, Pete.
Speaker 8 (26:17):
That's what I just said, Doug.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
But there were lots of other.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
There were lots of other parts to it that I
don't know how much you remember, right, because they had Peyton,
Gary Payton, they had Karmelone, but they were both hurt,
you know, they had injuries in that and it was
it was a dysfunctional group.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
But there's all other parts to it, right.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Detroit made the mid season trade to get Rashid Wallace.
Rashid Wallace was in Atlanta for like a day but
never played. But that was a gigantic trade for for
the Pistons, and no team had ever won all three
of those home games. He used to go two, three
to two until the Pistons, till the Pistons. So I
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would definitely say there was it was obvious the rip
between Kobe and Shack, but it was not a strong
surrounding cast. It was they went for it with all
these big names and it did not work. Did not work.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
I mean, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
We can't forget Doug's baseball team won their one World
Series championship.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
I ever tell you, guys that story of how I
didn't go to Game seven?
Speaker 3 (27:24):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Baseball Baseball, did.
Speaker 8 (27:27):
You have a coaching clinic that day?
Speaker 1 (27:29):
And sort of sort of so there used to be
touring teams that played against Division one schools. Right and
a long time ago, it was like Athletes in Action
and Phillip sixty six. They would have these teams of
former college players. Sometimes it'd be a foreign team. And
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from about ninety nine till two thousand and five, some
friends of mine, the Pump Brothers, they in partnership with sports.
They kind of took over that little industry and one
year I got to play with them. Well, that year
I played with THEA Sports and I played my dad
had a team where we played against UCLA handed them
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there at at that point it was their worst loss
ever in poly Pavilion. We actually played against Oaklham State,
Wichita State, Marshall, San Diego State.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Collected a bunch of wins.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Well, we were practicing that night and we were leaving
like the next day for some of these exhibition games,
and I was like, Dad, that Angels are game seven.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
I got tickets.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
He's like, all right, well it'll be on we get home.
I was like, it's right down the street and I
got tickets. And here's where my was like, well, why
do you care about the team. He was like, hello,
I've been an angel having my whole life. You're a
Mets fan. Like, have we not talked?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
And he's like, ah, I need you to practice. You
want to play, you got to practice.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
And at the time it's two thousand and two, I'm
what twenty six years old? Yeah, play six years old
and my dad still give me the practice thing, like,
I know all the plays, I'm the one who does them.
Speaker 9 (29:08):
You know one thing we missed from the NFL was
it was the first year of.
Speaker 8 (29:13):
The Houston Texans and.
Speaker 9 (29:16):
So you then had the change of all the divisions
and you went to the fourteen divisions. It was the
first year the Seahawks were in the NFC West, moving
over from the AFC West.
Speaker 8 (29:28):
And for those that don't.
Speaker 9 (29:29):
Remember, there was a period of time where a team
at a bye every single week because there were only
thirty one teams in the league. But when Houston came
into the league, that allowed the NFL to then even
out the schedule and you didn't have a buy in
week one or a buy in week seventeen, which some
teams did.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Awful planning that.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yes, it was such bad plan.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Do you remember who the first pick of the expansion
Draft was for the Houston Texans.
Speaker 9 (29:57):
Well, I know they took in the regular draft, but
the expansion draft?
Speaker 6 (30:03):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (30:06):
No, who was it?
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Anybody want to take a shot?
Speaker 8 (30:13):
Was the first one of the regular drafts?
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (30:15):
Was that?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Was that? The first one?
Speaker 3 (30:17):
I'm not going to guess among a thoul.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
He never played, He never played a game. I don't
believe for it. He was, you know, an all pro
Tony Boselli.
Speaker 8 (30:29):
That's right, can call.
Speaker 9 (30:32):
And he was the first draft pick of the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 8 (30:36):
Yes, yeah, but that's good. That's good trivia.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
I like that and everybody. And that's don't call it
a throwback.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Don't call it a throwback.
Speaker 11 (30:50):
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Speaker 2 (31:02):
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Speaker 1 (31:04):
Oh I see what you did, Sammy? What do you
want to tell about Tyreek Hill? So, Tyreek Hill has
had quite the year, right, He had a good start
of the season, then he nearly got arrested for speeding
outside the stadium. People tried to make him into a
sympathetic figure. Then he had to blow up on the
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sideline as he's playing with inferior quarterback, play with on
the shelf with the concussion. Here's Tua Nocuse. Here's Tyreek Hill.
When he talked earlier this week whether or not he's
happy with Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
I'm just focused on right here and right now.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
We got a beautiful team here, and I want to
be a part of it. We got a great situation here.
Our family loves it. I enjoy the weather's great, the
fans are great.
Speaker 8 (31:50):
Obviously. My parents always taught.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
Me to control the controllabooks, and I don't want to
get control so much, you know what I'm saying. So
with that being said, you all know the NFL. At
the game, whatever happens, happens.
Speaker 8 (32:00):
Don't dance off before.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
I would love to be here. I love being here.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Okay, you'd love to I mean, you did sign a
big contract and extension and with a bunch of money.
But okay, anytime somebody tries to convince you how happy
they are, doesn't that usually mean they're not that happy?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Doesn't it?
Speaker 1 (32:20):
There's there's some like expression for that. There's some saying
for that, is there not Jase do dan Byerbod? Like
when somebody's really trying to convince you how happy.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
They are, like, yeah, he's miserable, isn't he? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (32:35):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Faming? Interest?
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Is that? Is that a good way to describe it?
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Faining is like faking?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yeah? No, I'm saying when somebody goes no, no, I'm happy.
I'm so happy. What's not to be happy about?
Speaker 12 (32:47):
They're compensating and then you go like, hey, he's miserable.
I think overcompensating is the word. And I think the
antithesis to this is the doth protest too much? Right,
That's what you're going to get at. You're saying something
a little too too eagerly, and am the opposite.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah, I'm happy. No, I love it. I love it here.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
I just we want to do great things, like you
know any way anything you have no quarterback none.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
That's the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
You're on Fox Sports Radio, and let's catch up with
one of the most beloved coaches in college football as
he is. It's not just he's returned to his Alva manor,
but returning his ALM monitor to their previous Sclory b
Yu is five and oh a win over SMU, who
at the time I don't think people knew would be
as competitive in the ACC as they have been. I
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went over Wyoming, which of course is at a mile
high in altitude, a huge win over Kansas State at home,
and then most recently a win over over Baylor, So
two and oh in the Big twelve. Colonia Sataki joins
us on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Coach, Fiesta cake for you.
Speaker 6 (33:51):
Right good? I mean, I think the considering we're five
and oh and I believe you can still play better football. Still,
some things that I'd like to see is be better
at But I think every every football coach is probably
saying that right now. And having a bye week right
now in order to be able to just get our
guys ready to clean up a lot of the things
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that we can do. There's some self scout also, more
a thing just kind of evaluate how we're going along
and the schemes and how we're are we focusing on
the fundamentals all that stuff matters, So we're really getting
some extra work done. I'm excited to get on this this.
I wish we had a game this weekend, but we'll
worry about that when it gets here next week.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Okay, well, you don't have a game this week.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
You do have Boi U's first ever Jewish quarterback, right,
so he's celebrating as am I Russia.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Shawna is starting tonight.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Of course, Joan Kapor actually follows next week when you
guys are when you guys are playing, what was it
like to recruit him? You know a place that you know,
obviously you came to as a student being the first
ever Jewish quarterback.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
What was that that conversation?
Speaker 6 (34:54):
Like, well, I think the key for us was just
talking to him as a football player, but also as
a person. What type of guy is he and what
does he value in life? And obviously he values his faith,
and letting him know that he could be free to
live his religion here at BYU or a faith based institution.
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So encourage our players to have a great relationship with God,
regardless what their religion is. And you know him coming here,
you're able to see how comfortable he was here, but
also how enlightening it was for our team to get
to know more about the Jewish faith no more. I
mean we had we had people of his faith come
come through and they bought some food trucks and we
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had culture, foods, and he was able to share with
the players type of foods that they eat and things
like that, And this is just unique. We were always
about learning and trying to get to know more about
other things and the goods that we can be connected
with the Jewish faith and I understand a little bit
more about their beliefs and and then then you tie
that into life and tied into football. I want to
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coach great young man. I want to coach good kids.
He is a great one raise the right way. Happen
to be a different faith and than most of the guys,
than the guys on the team, but there's a lot
of a lot of similarities in terms of looking at
how he loves his faith, how he honors God, how
he cherishes the people that sacrifice to get into where
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he's at right now. And he's a perfect fit for
our program.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
You know, there've always been people that say, ah, there's
a ceiling at b y U. Right, there's a ceiling.
You know they got they got older kids. Because you've
got the Mormon kids coming off the mission. It feels
like having somebody of a different faith maybe helps break
through that ceiling.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Is that is that fair?
Speaker 6 (36:44):
I think I'm just I'm I'm excited just to coach
good people and be around good people and and and
there's good people in all different faiths. So we have
sureyers are a team that that that are that are
of the Muslim faith and and and Christian groups that
we have in our team. And uh, I think, I
think we want to look at what divides us. It's
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a bit of what actually we have in common. And
when you can build on that and respect it, good
things can happen. And in a team setting for that.
And you know, when you're looking at the age of
the team and all that, everybody's old. Now COVID year
made everybody old, So welcome, Welcome to the b Yufe everyone.
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Now you guys, Now you guys are all old. And
now you can't sit there and say we're the only
ones that are old. But the reason why we're older
is because we have a good number of players that
go on missions two years of their life in the
prime part of their life. And they don't go out
there to do workouts and things like that. They go
out there to serve others. And when you have people
that do that willing to serve others, others in front
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in front of them, their own needs when they come back.
It's a great setting for the teams become great teammates,
and then we work with them to try getting better shape,
but mentally and spiritually in the best shape of their life.
So all we have to do is match the physical
with the rest, and it works out in a great
team setting for us.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Can you win the Big twelve without running the ball
better than you've run.
Speaker 8 (38:09):
It so far?
Speaker 6 (38:12):
We win the biggest I would do whatever it takes
to win games, whatever phase it is, whether it's special teams,
defense or offense. I don't think we can just say
this is how we want to win. We'll take it
however it comes. I want us our team to be
ready to be flexible enough to play complimenting football. But
we can lean on all three phases. Maybe one week
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one phase does it needs needs a little bit more
from them than the others, but I think we're willing
to do that. We have a great team dynamic, and
it's a team game four reasons, so I'm not really
focused on the result, whether it's a win or loss,
more than I am in you guys to play at
their best. That's that's my focus, a lot of the best.
We can live with the results.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Klain Is Sataki head coach number seventeen, Rank five and
Oh b Yu Cougar's coogs are off this week as
they continue in a Big Twelve play. What is the
biggest difference in terms of the opposition and one's.
Speaker 6 (39:06):
Like, Well, the biggest difference is that it's tough football.
And so you look at the parody in the Big Twelve,
even from last year, that was an eye opening experience.
We knew that it was going to be tough, but
there's nothing more important than actually the experience itself. So
when we went through it, played nine games in a
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row in this conference, realized that, man, this conference is
really good everybody. We knew that going into it, but
there's another thing to know it anohing to feel it.
And so when the players felt that it's uncharted territory
now that they know about it more, it gave them
a little bit more of a Okay, this is a comparison.
What I know what it was like last year. I
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need to be ready this summer and be ready to January.
So the team had a different sense of urgency in
terms of working out and getting ready to go. So
January saw a new team in regards to work out
and taking the field, understanding the scheme, all the little
things that details became more important, and now we're seeing
the result of that. So I'm excited to see these
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guys continue to play. I want to get better as
a team. The important thing is we have a great
foundation built around love and trust with each other and
it's working so far. So we've got to keep building
on it, stay humble and hungry, and keep trying to
get better.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
You mentioned you have this bye week this week and
obviously after you know, you play three road games in
your first five games, Like, that's not Power five football
usually does not. That's not how it usually it works.
So I'm sure you need the time off. How do
you get balanced between the time off and keeping them
sharp and working on things? What's that let that balance
like for you at this point in the season.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
Well, the balance for us is we're still practicing. So
this week is still practice, just like if there's a game.
The only difference is there's no game on Saturday, so
we are the approach, work hard, brind get to the practices,
find ways and make mistakes in practice. From them, and
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then at the end of the week where it's a
lot cleaner differences. We don't play games, so we're not
going to get beat up physically that way, so we
can recover over the weekend, start again, and then we
get a little bit more extra focus on Arizona that's
coming into our Frost Stadium. And they had a great
game last week. They went out to Salt Lake City
and beat Utah, really tough environment to play, and so
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we know that they're ready for this moment. We just
got to be ready for ourselves.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Yeah, I'm honest, and I'm sure they made lots of
fans in provo by beating the guys in Salt Lake.
But also I'm sure got your guys extra attention because
of the respect I know you guys have for Utah's program.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Coach, coach, last last.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Thing, what would it mean to you personally considering it's
your own matter to get this team to the playoff.
Speaker 6 (42:02):
I'm just trying to get us to week six. I'm
trying to get us to the next step. I'll say
something about the playoffs that we've never had a path
as clear as and that it is now in bya history. Yeah,
if you want to get to the playoffs, you win
the conference that's never been done before in the independence
era in Mountain West, and then the whack that's never
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been as clear. So now we have that, we understand
the path to the road that takes to get there.
But we can't do it by looking further ahead. We
need to stick stick to what's in front of us,
and that's Arizona. That's just bye week in Arizona next week.
And I think we have that type of mentality. Find
ways to get better, stay humble, don't assume anything other
than hard work needs to be done. We can do that.
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I feel good about what we can get done next week.
I'm not really wiking past that as a team, and
to be inappropriate for me to do that when we
know how tough college football is.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
No question, no question.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
But I do, knowing the history, know what LaBelle Edwards
did there and how many great seasons you had and
you couldn't get that shot. I do know that there's
a different level of importance and a different level of
joy that would come with getting just that opportunity, which
now is a possibility with this with this new league
and with the new college ball Playoff coach Jellis and
honored to catch up with you. Your programs obviously in
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a great place. Thanks so much for joining us on
Fox Sports Tradio.
Speaker 6 (43:21):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Pleasures all ours.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
I mean, buyer you, Me and Jay stew were old
enough to remember when BYU used to be in the
whack and they had you know, I mean, I'm not
going to sit here and say I remember Steve Young.
I definitely don't remember Jim McMahon playing there, but the
debt mers as well, and they always had a quarterback
and they threw it around and put up big points,
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but they were never considered at the level of college
football as elite. And then you see them like the
Holiday Bowl. And now that obviously college football has changed.
They're in the league, they're competing in the league, and
they can actually, you know, they could actually get to
the playoffs.
Speaker 9 (44:01):
It is one of the still contested national championships, especially
with utes fans of our generation. Really, I mean, people
still will contest what by You did in the early
to mid eighties, but you're right, like that was the
only path that they had and the only that's where
college football was set up back then, where you're just ending.
Speaker 8 (44:21):
Up your bowl.
Speaker 9 (44:23):
You fed to the Holiday Bowl, and that's all that
they could do at the time. That's the only place
that they could go. Now it seems like such a
foreign concept. But I think that was difficult for people
to to understand or grasp on how you could claim
a national champion in a Holiday Bowl. But they did,
and forty years later people are still arguing about it.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Yep, yeah it is. It is netty stuff.
Speaker 9 (44:48):
Now people argue more about that than the like the
split national championship between Nebraska and Michigan or Colorado and
Georgia Tech.
Speaker 7 (44:56):
Georgia Tech, Yes, bring them back now, you bring them back,
rev Yes. By the way, props to Sam on his
Nico Collins pick. Jason Stewart said, you know, we got
to give Sam credit.
Speaker 8 (45:08):
When we were talking about to apologize. We need to apologize.
Speaker 10 (45:11):
How apologies not needed? I just you know, I just
have an eye for these things and eye for talent.
You we've talked about programs we wanted to see back.
Remember that a couple of weeks ago in Georgia Cup
was one I died on that Upscure Hill. I really
did perish there, did I say?
Speaker 8 (45:23):
B Yu. I thought, I said b Yu.
Speaker 9 (45:26):
In my my draft, I thought BYU was my first rounding.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 10 (45:30):
Mine was Miami and then Georgia Tech because they do
draw so much attention now, not so much because they are.
Speaker 8 (45:37):
In the Big twelve.
Speaker 10 (45:38):
But by the way, I know that like they're they're
pretty high up there in Provo. I'm not sure how high,
but I don't think that's one of the most unbelievably
beautiful settings for college football, with those mountains in the
background there in Provo. I mean sometimes there's snow capped
and it's just gorgeous, just gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
The Wasatch Mountains.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Yeah you got me. I don't know.
Speaker 8 (45:58):
Yes, they are.
Speaker 9 (46:00):
Yeah, at Rice Ecles as well, in Salt Lake City
you get that backdrop, but not as much of in Provo.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
Pro is just yeah, beautiful.
Speaker 6 (46:08):
I was.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
I was stuck in Provo on a Sunday once. I'm
not sure. It was not bad.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
It was just it wasn't a lot to do. You
could go to the restaurant. There were restaurants opened, obviously,
no booze and stuff. But I remember it was like
I was doing a game. It was early it may
have been it was just I think it was in December.
It was a BYU air Force game and the Maryout Center,
but neither team was particularly good at the time, and
somehow it ended up on ABC. It was after air
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Force had had been pretty good the first time Joe
Scott was there. Jo Scott's back there as head coach. Anyway,
they played BYU and I remember getting done and I
couldn't fly out that day because there was snow and
ice back in Hartford, and so I was like, all right, well,
college football, I mean NFL Sunday in Provo.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
It was different, beautiful area though.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
Forty five excuse me, forty nine feet above sea level
is Provo, Utah.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
There's your answer, So not quite a mile high.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
But as as I think I was, am appropriately said,
pretty high up there, right, That's that's.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
He's right, probably enough to you'd notice the difference a
little bit. No, how you breathey.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Five yeah, forty five. Absolutely, you're huffing and puffing.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
It's some Wyoming's like seventy two hundred feet that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
But fortate, what's the highest you've ever been Updug?
Speaker 6 (47:26):
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (47:27):
Un to play a basketball game?
Speaker 6 (47:28):
No?
Speaker 10 (47:28):
Like just in like hiking like I've been in Colorado
in a breckenridge outside Wreckage fourteen thousand feet and it
was never, never, the very hard to breathe.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
And you group, I mean, I was in a big
sky when I went skiing last last summer, I mean
summer last winter. But I don't know the elevation it was.
I don't know the elevation in big Sky. And we
didn't go to yeah, I mean, I guess we went
to the resort. So we went out and went skiing,
and I had no idea. But I haven't been hiking
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up there.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
I don't.
Speaker 9 (47:58):
This conversation, by the way, was a plot premise in
an episode of the King of Queens where Doug had
to go on a work trip with Carrie. Yeah, and
she gave him a book to read because they had
no TVs. And it was about Mount Everest. And then
her boss asked him how high he's been, and he
just remembered from the Book of Everest height he said,
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twenty nine thirty two feet. The boss is like, you've
climbed Mount Everest. Doug like, yep, yes I have. Oh
it's one of the better ones.
Speaker 3 (48:29):
He did an oxygen tank.
Speaker 8 (48:31):
Yeah, right, and Doug came to the toast of the town.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
Doug and King of Queen.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Yeah, yes, Doug Heffertan, Doug, Doug Heiffertan, there you go.
King of Queen's kind of you know, it's interesting. We
always talked about.
Speaker 8 (48:44):
A favorite sitcom.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
Really, Yes, what was the something about Raymond?
Speaker 2 (48:50):
What was the Raymond one? Everybody Loves Everybody Raymond?
Speaker 1 (48:53):
I thought that was good the same time, same sort
of a lot of similar setups there, right.
Speaker 9 (48:59):
Yeah, there was a connection. It was kind of like, yeah,
a little bit. Ray Romano appeared in a couple episodes.
Ray Romano's brother was in King of Queens for the
early seasons.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
I didn't know Ray Romano had a brother.
Speaker 8 (49:12):
Brings me back to Larry. I think his name was
Larry
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In person or on TV. That's that's kind of today's question.
And I say that because last night there was four
baseball games on and I'm watching and I the Mets
are up three to over, they have three to two,
and nobody's on. It's the eighth inning, so I kind
(01:07):
of got caught up in the I went over to
start streaming, and I saw what was it and I've
seen the movie Deadpool and Wolverine.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I'm like, ah, just kind of throw that on.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I had some other work to do, watching some other stuff,
like I was looking for a movie. I put a
movie on, so started to close my eyes, fall asleep,
wake up, and then all of a sudden, I look
at my phone and I realized that the Brewers win
five to three. So I go back or a wind
back on the TV and see what I missed this morning,
(01:38):
and Jackson Traio it's Hits. There you go, Hits the
home run, and I'm like kicking myself. And then so
I was thinking, Okay, if I was there, I wouldn't
have been able to.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Flip off the TV. Okay, if I was there, I
wouldn't flip off the TV, or I wouldn't have been
able to search.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
You know, It's like the ADHD kicks in and you're like,
I'm watching all right, let's just and I was like
invest did in watching the game a little bit, and
you know, We're sitting there talking and watching and you know,
and then I'm starting to think, Okay, I could go
to tonight's Brewers game, or I could watch it on TV.
Now full disclosure your boys like the keynotes speaker at
(02:18):
Wisconsin Basketball Coaches Clinic tonight. So I wouldn't be able
to get there right at the start of the game,
but you can go watch like the meat of the
baseball game if you wanted. And then I kind of
got into a further thing I would I would tell
you this, not only is baseball, does baseball have a
greater what's the what's the word?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
The jumping intensity?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
The jumping importance of every pitch regular season to postseason
is way greater than anything in the regular season, like
just pronouncedly better the intensity.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
NBA is like that as well.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
NFL is pretty intense anyway, it does get a little
bit more intense. I think in the playoffs baseball the
greatest jumping into density. But also it goes from a
change like regular season baseball is hard to watch on
TV sometimes because what happened to me last night was
I was in regular season mentality. Oh, hey, do you
(03:13):
want to watch a chick flick? Hey do you want
to watch Deadpool wolver Raine? Or you watch to watch
the baseball Like in a baseball game, you're like, eh,
there's one hundred and sixty two of them.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
One hundred sixty two.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
And again I'm watching last night, I'm thinking, I don't
like absolute statements, and that's part of what I hate
about hockey. Guy going nothing better than overtime playoff hockey, Like,
is it really good?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
I could point out the randomness of who wins in
some stray slap shot that you know that ends up
deflecting off of three different people and ends up in
the back of the net shore, But playoff hockey, overtime hockey,
great hockey, hard to watch on TV. Baseball. And here's
the thing, Jay Stu, you have. J Stu goes to
(04:04):
as many Dodger games as he can. I would say
of the people that work at Fox Sports Radio on
any level, you go to more Dodger games than anyone
on the national anyone who does nationally does Fox Sports Radio.
If you look at our entire lineup, our whole lineup
has different producers and associate producers and all kinds of people.
(04:25):
I would say Jay Stu goes to it has gone
to more Dodger games than anybody else.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Is that fair, Jay Stu?
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Sure, I'll take that, okay, But would you rather watch
the Dodgers in person? In the playoffs or rather watch
the Dodgers on TV in.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
The play It's an easy answer for me.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
And I actually got my son wanted to go to
the game on Saturday, and I said, take your grandpa,
Because the first thing that I think about when someone says,
let's go to the Dodger game is the pain in
the acid's going to be to get in, the expensiveness
once you get there, and then the pain in the
acid is to get out. Let's rather be on the
(05:00):
couch watching that game. And it's gonna be a big
game Dodgers podre Saturday night.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
It's gonna be a huge game Saturday night.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I think part of it is you're.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
You know, you're caught up in all of the other
which is a real thing, right, Like to go to
a Dodger game. It is the worst place on earth
to get into. It just is it's beautiful. It's intervened
and overlooks downtown in La. If you get the right time,
you look out the sunset, it's it's crazy. Once you
get in the stadium. There's zero bad things about Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Zero.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I am not a I'm not a hardcore or even
light cord like Dodger fan, and I can tell you,
as an Angel fan, I have so much jealousy of
the fact that Dodger Sam was already great and they
continue to add to it. And every time they every
sing everything they seem to do to tweak.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
It makes it better.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
But it is Penny has to get to and there's
lots of Los Angelinos. And here's the other part. I
don't know if this bothers you Jays two, because I
would be one of the other people. But the crowd
that makes up of Dodger playoff game is different than
the crowd that makes up a regular season Dodger game.
And it's not just that there are different people that
having come out. It's people that they talk with authority
(06:16):
about things that they haven't paid any attention to.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
You know what I'm talking about, Right, of course.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
They start they start talking about the Dodger lineup and
talking about showing town. Like, dude, you hadn't been here ever.
You watch like two Dodger games a year. You're coming
up with opinion on this stuff. But they want to act,
they want to like.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Validate their fanhood, and so they talk to stuff.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
But I generally agree with you can you imagine missing
playoff because especially like, look, you have really really good
seats maybe, but you still can't truly see those pitches
on the black, like you just can't. And I'll also
like last night was ESPN, but I'll also credit the
(06:55):
guys at Fox. They kind of invented this way of
covering baseball where you're zooming in and getting way up
close and personal and you see the actual emotions of
the moment and the facial strains and the facial ticks
of some of these guys. It's truly a well covered event.
It's baseball is not made for TV in the regular season.
(07:15):
The postseason, I don't think it's made for anything else.
And yeah, I know the crowds will be full and
they matter and they care, But how good is that?
I love watching postseason baseball on television?
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Like how far?
Speaker 4 (07:28):
How long is the drive if you wanted to go
to the game tonight, like out forty five.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Hour forty five, But I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Be I'm not going to be super close, probably hour
fifteen away.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
I mean, it's just, man, I think that it speaks to,
first of all, how spoiled I've been. I've had a
you know, major League teams in my city, my entire life.
So I'm just spoiled. And then I would think of
that ninety minute drive to get there. Screw that, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Yeah, no, it's an investment. Right now, I'm in there
to get there. Then you got to park, Then you
gotta pay for parking.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I will say.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
The Brewers they have they have this pop these popcorn
stands that they have real Wisconsin butter, and they put
the butter in the popcorn and it's literally the greatest
popcorn you It's incredible. And I've gone to like four
Brewers games this year. I've gone to some concerts there.
Every time I go there, I get the popcorn and
(08:23):
I get the next one for somebody else. I'm like,
try this, It's the greatest thing you've ever in your life.
And they're like, yeah, it's just popcorns. And then they
bite and they're like, what is on that? Mm, real
Wisconsin butter with I guess, real Wisconsin, real Wisconsin salt.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
That's so good, so good.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Here's ah, here's a Brewers Garrett Mitchell steps up. Uh
At steps to the plate down to in a tie
game in the eighth inning.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Like center field.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
It is.
Speaker 7 (09:02):
Here carried chall go ahead to run home.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
You run in the bottle.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Of the eighth City.
Speaker 8 (09:10):
So good.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
The other thing about playoff baseball is, I know, like basketball,
games can get away with you, get away from you
really quickly. It's one of the things about coaching that
you learned, and I do actually I know. I haven't
coached in college, but I do actually know that like those,
they can get away from you really quick. Football game
it can like, right, you can give a touchdown, pick six, like, well,
(09:32):
what happened you blink? But baseball literally can change the
one swing.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Of the bat.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
One swing of the bat, you know, you can be
shutting a team completely down, then one swinging the bat like, wait,
what happened? We lost? It's over. The Mets dominated that
game until they didn't won one tie heading the Game three,
which will be tonight at the American Family Insurance Field.
(10:01):
Stut Gottleep show. You're on Fox Sports Radio. Oh go ahead, Dan, I'm.
Speaker 8 (10:06):
Sorry, that's all right.
Speaker 9 (10:06):
If you're going to be in the Dallas tonight, Doug,
it would not take you just an hour and fifteen
to Milwaukee. It may take you closer to two hours. Really,
that's the case.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yes, what are the Dells that I'm going to?
Speaker 9 (10:17):
Wisconsin Dell's. Yeah, Wisconsin Dell's is the home to the
most water parks in the entire world. What it is
a summer vacation extravaganda extravaganza. Yes, everybody goes to the
Dells during the summer. But now they've made it a
year round spot. So they have indoor water parks. So
(10:37):
you have the Kalahari and they'll have an indoor water park.
They have an indoor amusement park. Yeah, it's enormous.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Really, Yes, I got to call my son, dude, indoor
water park. We are all about water park as you know,
We're all about roller coasters and water parks.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
You know, howlly did the outdoor water parks open?
Speaker 9 (10:59):
Well, here's the thing is, because they have to get
a lot of kids from around the world come in
and work the summers. So usually Labor Day is the cutoff,
like that's the end. So all of the outdoor attractions
usually will shut down around Labor Day, but the indoor
ones are open year round.
Speaker 10 (11:16):
Bulmer, because I was gonna say, I mean, you know,
I know the Midwest still having like a little influx
of nice warmer weather here in there, and you could
get out there, but I guess you'll have to go
for the indoor ones for now.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
It falls got here.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
It's a beautiful like early fall, high sixties, low seventies.
Last week was still kind of Indian summer. So if
they were if they could have had it open last weekend,
it would have worked. But now it's now, it's.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Probably probably too chilly for that.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah, but the indoor water park that sounds indoor water park.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
Though.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
You can get that smell of the chlorine a little
bit like I love it.
Speaker 9 (11:48):
Oh yeah, do you love that smell? But your you
know what's off in there too?
Speaker 8 (11:53):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yes, humid, Yes it is, it is. It is humid
in there. It is human.
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I actually got excited this morning because I knew it
(12:47):
was Thursday, and I did know what year we were doing,
but I did know it's stone call to throwback Thursday, Right.
Jase Duo came up with this one, and it's just
his way of being the FM morning DJ.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
He always wanted to be right. That's that's the truth, Jason.
Is that about right? Like? That's truthfully?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Like if I could be the old FM DJ with
these really cool, sort of cheesy bits and bringing the
energy every day and then telling wacky stories and making
comments on like you look you at your podcast on
the Bachelor Bachelorette.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
What's it called the Bachelor Lifestyle with Brian Buckner.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Bachelor Lifestyle Brian Beckner.
Speaker 8 (13:27):
Bachelor Lifestyle Brian Beckner.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
So he's got that working for him, and he came
up with this.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Now I want to tell the listeners something. By the way,
since you brought this up, I need to I need
to play it. You talk about me always wanted to
be a morning DJ and whatnot? Well, at some point.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I think everybody want to be a morning DJ though,
but somebody.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Formally works here put me in a sitcom. I did
two episodes of Gary Unmarried, and just this week one
of the listeners brought this to my attention just because
somebody passed away this week and they're like, oh, I
remember that from that show. So this is me being
a sports talk show host on Gary Unmarried two thousand and.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Ten, ty Cop, Babe, Ruth.
Speaker 11 (14:19):
These guys were no saints, and now with all the steroids,
you're going to make an example out of Pete Rose.
In ten years, Pete Rose will be in the Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
You get bet on it.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I don't take that bet.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Pete Rose.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Now, granted, not the greatest joke in the world. I
don't know if it warranted that laughter, but I thought
that our listeners are going to kick out of that today.
I want to tell you that this is a segment
that is a work in progress.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
I had a.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Vision for it. Dan had a vision for it. I
came up with the name, and we're just kind of
working out the quirks, the kinks. Okay, time out, time out,
what's going on. I had a vision for it, and
then you thought it was a different vision.
Speaker 8 (15:08):
Hold up, hold on, yeah, hold up, hold on, hold up,
hold on.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Right, wait wait wait, okay, okay. So Dan, your vision
of it was what I thought.
Speaker 9 (15:17):
We would talk about the big sports moments that happened
in each of these years.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Which is what I thought.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
And then Jay Stew's like, hey, why don't we do
the FM Morning DJ nineteen eighty four was the year,
let's talk about what albums were hot?
Speaker 4 (15:32):
So this was how I took Dan's vision. First of all,
I wanted to own the name. Don't call it a throwback.
Speaker 8 (15:39):
That is true.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
It is is, yeah, because I always think it's funny
when people say, don't call it a comeback, and then
they tell you they're coming back from something, so don't
call it a throwback. And then I thought that since
every Thursday there's a matchup on Thursday Night, I could
take a past matchup of those exact teams and then
(16:00):
focus on that matchup, and then we just make it
a conversation about that year that I choose. So we're
gonna kind of do a hybrid between Dan's initial concept
and mine. It goes something like this, Sam, do you
have anything like rewind music or something, to get me
into this thing. All right, let's rewind it back to
(16:25):
December two thousand and two, twenty two years ago. The
Bucks faced the Falcons in a December game where second
year star Michael Vick played the Buccaneers for the first time,
(16:45):
probably the second time since they play it twice and
twice a year. The Buccaneers kicked their butts. Now the Buccaneers,
if you don't recall, that was the first year that
John Gruden coached them, and he led them to a
Super Bowl title. In this game, the Bucks really kind
of mopped the floor with the Falcons. It wasn't even close.
(17:06):
It was a thirty four to ten game. Our guy
Brad Johnson led the Bucks in passing. Mike Alstott starred.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
For the Bucks.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Great name those great defensive names for the Bucks that
are all Hall of famers, including John winch On, a
Rodney Barber if he's in the Hall of Fame, Derek Brooks.
It was just a one win on the way to
their one Super Bowl, I guess, their first Super Bowl championship.
And what I remember most from that year was this
(17:39):
John Gruden thing to where like he led a team
to a Super Bowl and he defeated a Raider team
that he had just built and left the year before.
It's like it doesn't get enough credit I think in
the history of coaching. John Gruden built this Raiders team
that eventually went to the Super Bowl and lost to
a team that he coached. Pretty amazing, Uh humble bragg.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
I was there. Remember Barrett Robbins went missing the morning
of the game.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Bart Robbinson the All Pro center for the Raiders. And
then the story was that they didn't change any of
the audible calls for rich Gannon. So Tampa literally knew
exactly what they were going to do with all the
with all the audibles because they hadn't changed it when
Gruden was there.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
That is a humble brag that you were there. By
the way, this is called, you.
Speaker 11 (18:35):
Don't call it a throwback, throw back, thirst throw back.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
We're thrown back to two thousand and one, correct.
Speaker 8 (18:41):
Two thousand and two, two thousand and two.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Good to know.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
What do you got? Dan?
Speaker 9 (18:46):
Well, as soon as I found out that the year
was two thousand and two, my mind immediately went to
college football and what ended up being the greatest season
of my life in college football. It was the year
that Ohio State went unbeat and ultimately with top Miami
in the Fiesta Bowl, the National Championship game on the
third day of January in two thousand and three. But
(19:08):
the two thousand and two season was really dominated by
the Hurricanes, as the Buckeyes the second half of the
year with Maurice Clarett's shoulder injury, each week was a
nail bider as they squeaked through the Big Ten wins
at Wisconsin, wins at Northwestern, most notably a win at
(19:28):
Purdue on a fourth down call that they now call
Holy Buckeye where Craig ke Crensall hit Michael Jenkins in
the end zone and what was an awful game. How
do I know, Humblebregg I was there. I was in
West Lafayette for that game. That was what six to
three at the time, and the Buckeye season hanging on
(19:51):
the brink in that fourth down call, and then they
escaped against Michigan with an interception by Will Allen at
the goal line to preserve their spot in the Nation
Little Championship Game. For as dominant as Miami was throughout
those seasons and that season as well, Ohio State struggled
when Maurice Creutt went down with that shoulder injury, and
the second half of the year was just close game
(20:12):
after close game after close game that just kept on winning.
Speaker 8 (20:15):
Them and then ended up winning the national championship.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
That's going, That's really really going, Sammy got anyone out on.
Speaker 10 (20:22):
The absolutely Ohio State story kind of ties in with
Iowa a little bit. Both teams finished eight to oh
in the Big Ten. They shared the Big Ten championship,
but they did not play each other, so you could
really say they were co Big Ten champions. Of course,
Ohio State with their unbeaten record and I really remember
that year. They Yeah, they won a lot of close games.
(20:42):
The Bluckeyes did the Hawkeyes outs. If they did not
lose give up a huge lead to Iowa State at
home earlier in the season, they would have been undefeated.
They think he was like a twenty four to seven
half time lead. They ended up losing that game, but
they went eight to oh. They had Brad Banks, who
went all the way to the Heisman ceremony, finished second
to Carson Palmer of USC and when Iowa finished the
(21:06):
regular season eleven and one, Brad Banks lost the Heisman
to Carson Palmer, and they ended up instead of going
to the Rose Bowl, they went to the Orange Bowl
to face those USC Trojans with Carson Palmer, and unfortunately,
outside of an amazing kickoff return for a touchdown to
open the game for Iowa, they folded thirty eight to
(21:27):
seventeen to those Trojans.
Speaker 8 (21:28):
Did the Rose Bowl take Oklahoma?
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Was that?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
That's something like that.
Speaker 10 (21:32):
I think the last the last game of the regular
season was at Minnesota, and that's where Iowa fans were
so exuberant with passion and overjoyed in New Fork that
they tore down the gulposts there at the Hubert H.
Humphrey Metrodome and tried to run out of the rotating
doors with them and they couldn't. They'd like saw him
up or something. It was crazy. It was Minnesota fans
(21:54):
haven't forgiven Iowa for that since. But they all were
and they all had roses in their in their mouths,
you know, like that that very commonplace picture you see
where guys that they finished a big season they have
the rose in their mouth, like we're going to the
Rose Bull. But they ended up going to the Orange
Bowl and a little bit of a downturn on the
end of the season. But a great year nonetheless for Iowa.
Well yeah, co Big Ten champions there with the Buckeyes.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
So we picked, we picked a year that each of
you had amazing college football memories. Yes, I'm feeling your
passion here and I just looked it up.
Speaker 9 (22:25):
The Orange Bowl actually took Iowa first because they had
the first pick of the teams that weren't in the
title game.
Speaker 10 (22:30):
I think Iowa was third, weren't they, Yes, yes, so yeah,
it was sort of like the Orange Bowl wanted Iowa more.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
They thought they were going to the Rose.
Speaker 9 (22:38):
They were fifth in the BCS, but third I think
in the apol at the time.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Number one in our hearts.
Speaker 8 (22:42):
Yeah, number one in our hearts.
Speaker 10 (22:44):
That I I'll just say, I mean that Ohio State
team gave you a lot of future NFL stars that
that Iowa team gave you, Dallas Clark, Bob Sanders, Robert Gallery,
a lot, a lot of big time players that go
in the NFL and have nice careers. So yeah, that
early two thousand thousands of college football era. It was
also sort of the end of like Miami and Nebraska
(23:05):
being powers, Like Miami would lose to Ohio State in
that National Championship game, and they started taper off after that.
The previous year, Miami smoked Nebraska in the National Championship
Game and then Nebraska really hasn't been the same since.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I don't think Miami's fall was that quick, but part
of it was, you know, they had coaching changes and
then like USC NCAA probation and then you know those
they go probation, then they be fine, then probation, then
they be fine. Sam, let's let's let's test your knowledge
of that game. What's the most There's two memorable plays
(23:41):
in that game. Miami Ohio State. Okay, one of the
greatest college football games. I think it's probably a better
game overall than Texas USC, but maybe it doesn't get
the credit.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
And then there's the controversial call.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
So two big plays everybody knows that everybody remembers that
game by Do you know either one of them?
Speaker 10 (24:00):
Well, one was it was a pass interference on Miami
that was very controversial.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
That what Dan ended up pushing the game to overtime.
Speaker 9 (24:07):
It was in the first overtime that Ohio State would
have lost if they didn't call pass interference on Miami.
Chris gamble in the corner of the end zone went
up for it. I still think that past interference happened
before we see it on camera. I agree, and Miami
fans don't want to hear it. But what we saw
in film was not actually where the infraction happened on
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the play.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
I mean, if you watch it still in standard def,
replay is far different. You're like, oh my god, it's
so much better now, yes, yes, and right sure.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Then and then it was the same game.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Coming up short on the second big punt.
Speaker 9 (24:47):
Are you talking about Willis mcgahey's knees, Yes, yes, Oh, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
So Willis mcgahe his knee went backwards, he got hit
like a helmet on the knee, and the actually like,
if you bet your knee right now and you made
it like a V, right, imagine the V being in reverse.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
That's all I remember about that play.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
And then you're sitting there going like, I'll never play
footballgain then, well, sis fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
He'd kind of defied that and had a nice career.
Speaker 8 (25:16):
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 9 (25:17):
Like, Ohio State couldn't do anything on offense in that
National championship game, but Sean Taylor had an interception in
the end zone that he brought out and then Maurice
Clarett stripped him of the football, and so Ohio State
actually retained possession and Miami actually had to kick a
field goal as time expired in the game just descended
into overtime. They also had a first and goal at
the one yard line in the second overtime and we're
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unable to cash it in from one yard out is
Ohio State had a great goal line stand and then
Ken Dorsey was kind of was hurt on one of
the plays, left for a snap, came back in, but
Miami was unable to cash in from the one yard line,
had four place to do so and couldn't do it.
We could do this whole segment on that game if
we wanted to.
Speaker 6 (25:59):
Wait.
Speaker 9 (26:00):
There were other things that happened end of the Lakers dynasty.
They were all the three peat two and two.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I didn't get that was that was we were going around.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Oh I'm sorry, I'm sorry around the.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Going around the thing Mine was in the Lakers Dynasty
two thousand and two to three, Pete.
Speaker 8 (26:17):
That's what I just said, Doug.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
But there were lots of other.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
There were lots of other parts to it that I
don't know how much you remember, right, because they had Peyton,
Gary Payton, they had Karmelone, but they were both hurt,
you know, they had injuries in that and it was
it was a dysfunctional group.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
But there's all other parts to it, right.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Detroit made the mid season trade to get Rashid Wallace.
Rashid Wallace was in Atlanta for like a day but
never played. But that was a gigantic trade for for
the Pistons, and no team had ever won all three
of those home games. He used to go two, three
to two until the Pistons, till the Pistons. So I
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would definitely say there was it was obvious the rip
between Kobe and Shack, but it was not a strong
surrounding cast. It was they went for it with all
these big names and it did not work. Did not work.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
I mean, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
We can't forget Doug's baseball team won their one World
Series championship.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
I ever tell you, guys that story of how I
didn't go to Game seven?
Speaker 3 (27:24):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Baseball Baseball, did.
Speaker 8 (27:27):
You have a coaching clinic that day?
Speaker 1 (27:29):
And sort of sort of so there used to be
touring teams that played against Division one schools. Right and
a long time ago, it was like Athletes in Action
and Phillip sixty six. They would have these teams of
former college players. Sometimes it'd be a foreign team. And
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from about ninety nine till two thousand and five, some
friends of mine, the Pump Brothers, they in partnership with sports.
They kind of took over that little industry and one
year I got to play with them. Well, that year
I played with THEA Sports and I played my dad
had a team where we played against UCLA handed them
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there at at that point it was their worst loss
ever in poly Pavilion. We actually played against Oaklham State,
Wichita State, Marshall, San Diego State.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Collected a bunch of wins.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Well, we were practicing that night and we were leaving
like the next day for some of these exhibition games,
and I was like, Dad, that Angels are game seven.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
I got tickets.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
He's like, all right, well it'll be on we get home.
I was like, it's right down the street and I
got tickets. And here's where my was like, well, why
do you care about the team. He was like, hello,
I've been an angel having my whole life. You're a
Mets fan. Like, have we not talked?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
And he's like, ah, I need you to practice. You
want to play, you got to practice.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
And at the time it's two thousand and two, I'm
what twenty six years old? Yeah, play six years old
and my dad still give me the practice thing, like,
I know all the plays, I'm the one who does them.
Speaker 9 (29:08):
You know one thing we missed from the NFL was
it was the first year of.
Speaker 8 (29:13):
The Houston Texans and.
Speaker 9 (29:16):
So you then had the change of all the divisions
and you went to the fourteen divisions. It was the
first year the Seahawks were in the NFC West, moving
over from the AFC West.
Speaker 8 (29:28):
And for those that don't.
Speaker 9 (29:29):
Remember, there was a period of time where a team
at a bye every single week because there were only
thirty one teams in the league. But when Houston came
into the league, that allowed the NFL to then even
out the schedule and you didn't have a buy in
week one or a buy in week seventeen, which some
teams did.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Awful planning that.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yes, it was such bad plan.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Do you remember who the first pick of the expansion
Draft was for the Houston Texans.
Speaker 9 (29:57):
Well, I know they took in the regular draft, but
the expansion draft?
Speaker 6 (30:03):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (30:06):
No, who was it?
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Anybody want to take a shot?
Speaker 8 (30:13):
Was the first one of the regular drafts?
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (30:15):
Was that?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Was that? The first one?
Speaker 3 (30:17):
I'm not going to guess among a thoul.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
He never played, He never played a game. I don't
believe for it. He was, you know, an all pro
Tony Boselli.
Speaker 8 (30:29):
That's right, can call.
Speaker 9 (30:32):
And he was the first draft pick of the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 8 (30:36):
Yes, yeah, but that's good. That's good trivia.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
I like that and everybody. And that's don't call it
a throwback.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Don't call it a throwback.
Speaker 11 (30:50):
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Speaker 2 (31:02):
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Speaker 1 (31:04):
Oh I see what you did, Sammy? What do you
want to tell about Tyreek Hill? So, Tyreek Hill has
had quite the year, right, He had a good start
of the season, then he nearly got arrested for speeding
outside the stadium. People tried to make him into a
sympathetic figure. Then he had to blow up on the
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sideline as he's playing with inferior quarterback, play with on
the shelf with the concussion. Here's Tua Nocuse. Here's Tyreek Hill.
When he talked earlier this week whether or not he's
happy with Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
I'm just focused on right here and right now.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
We got a beautiful team here, and I want to
be a part of it. We got a great situation here.
Our family loves it. I enjoy the weather's great, the
fans are great.
Speaker 8 (31:50):
Obviously. My parents always taught.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
Me to control the controllabooks, and I don't want to
get control so much, you know what I'm saying. So
with that being said, you all know the NFL. At
the game, whatever happens, happens.
Speaker 8 (32:00):
Don't dance off before.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
I would love to be here. I love being here.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Okay, you'd love to I mean, you did sign a
big contract and extension and with a bunch of money.
But okay, anytime somebody tries to convince you how happy
they are, doesn't that usually mean they're not that happy?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Doesn't it?
Speaker 1 (32:20):
There's there's some like expression for that. There's some saying
for that, is there not Jase do dan Byerbod? Like
when somebody's really trying to convince you how happy.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
They are, like, yeah, he's miserable, isn't he? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (32:35):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Faming? Interest?
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Is that? Is that a good way to describe it?
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Faining is like faking?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yeah? No, I'm saying when somebody goes no, no, I'm happy.
I'm so happy. What's not to be happy about?
Speaker 12 (32:47):
They're compensating and then you go like, hey, he's miserable.
I think overcompensating is the word. And I think the
antithesis to this is the doth protest too much? Right,
That's what you're going to get at. You're saying something
a little too too eagerly, and am the opposite.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah, I'm happy. No, I love it. I love it here.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
I just we want to do great things, like you
know any way anything you have no quarterback none.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
That's the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
You're on Fox Sports Radio, and let's catch up with
one of the most beloved coaches in college football as
he is. It's not just he's returned to his Alva manor,
but returning his ALM monitor to their previous Sclory b
Yu is five and oh a win over SMU, who
at the time I don't think people knew would be
as competitive in the ACC as they have been. I
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went over Wyoming, which of course is at a mile
high in altitude, a huge win over Kansas State at home,
and then most recently a win over over Baylor, So
two and oh in the Big twelve. Colonia Sataki joins
us on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Coach, Fiesta cake for you.
Speaker 6 (33:51):
Right good? I mean, I think the considering we're five
and oh and I believe you can still play better football. Still,
some things that I'd like to see is be better
at But I think every every football coach is probably
saying that right now. And having a bye week right
now in order to be able to just get our
guys ready to clean up a lot of the things
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that we can do. There's some self scout also, more
a thing just kind of evaluate how we're going along
and the schemes and how we're are we focusing on
the fundamentals all that stuff matters, So we're really getting
some extra work done. I'm excited to get on this this.
I wish we had a game this weekend, but we'll
worry about that when it gets here next week.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Okay, well, you don't have a game this week.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
You do have Boi U's first ever Jewish quarterback, right,
so he's celebrating as am I Russia.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Shawna is starting tonight.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Of course, Joan Kapor actually follows next week when you
guys are when you guys are playing, what was it
like to recruit him? You know a place that you know,
obviously you came to as a student being the first
ever Jewish quarterback.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
What was that that conversation?
Speaker 6 (34:54):
Like, well, I think the key for us was just
talking to him as a football player, but also as
a person. What type of guy is he and what
does he value in life? And obviously he values his faith,
and letting him know that he could be free to
live his religion here at BYU or a faith based institution.
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So encourage our players to have a great relationship with God,
regardless what their religion is. And you know him coming here,
you're able to see how comfortable he was here, but
also how enlightening it was for our team to get
to know more about the Jewish faith no more. I
mean we had we had people of his faith come
come through and they bought some food trucks and we
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had culture, foods, and he was able to share with
the players type of foods that they eat and things
like that, And this is just unique. We were always
about learning and trying to get to know more about
other things and the goods that we can be connected
with the Jewish faith and I understand a little bit
more about their beliefs and and then then you tie
that into life and tied into football. I want to
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coach great young man. I want to coach good kids.
He is a great one raise the right way. Happen
to be a different faith and than most of the guys,
than the guys on the team, but there's a lot
of a lot of similarities in terms of looking at
how he loves his faith, how he honors God, how
he cherishes the people that sacrifice to get into where
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he's at right now. And he's a perfect fit for
our program.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
You know, there've always been people that say, ah, there's
a ceiling at b y U. Right, there's a ceiling.
You know they got they got older kids. Because you've
got the Mormon kids coming off the mission. It feels
like having somebody of a different faith maybe helps break
through that ceiling.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Is that is that fair?
Speaker 6 (36:44):
I think I'm just I'm I'm excited just to coach
good people and be around good people and and and
there's good people in all different faiths. So we have
sureyers are a team that that that are that are
of the Muslim faith and and and Christian groups that
we have in our team. And uh, I think, I
think we want to look at what divides us. It's
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a bit of what actually we have in common. And
when you can build on that and respect it, good
things can happen. And in a team setting for that.
And you know, when you're looking at the age of
the team and all that, everybody's old. Now COVID year
made everybody old, So welcome, Welcome to the b Yufe everyone.
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Now you guys, Now you guys are all old. And
now you can't sit there and say we're the only
ones that are old. But the reason why we're older
is because we have a good number of players that
go on missions two years of their life in the
prime part of their life. And they don't go out
there to do workouts and things like that. They go
out there to serve others. And when you have people
that do that willing to serve others, others in front
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in front of them, their own needs when they come back.
It's a great setting for the teams become great teammates,
and then we work with them to try getting better shape,
but mentally and spiritually in the best shape of their life.
So all we have to do is match the physical
with the rest, and it works out in a great
team setting for us.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Can you win the Big twelve without running the ball
better than you've run.
Speaker 8 (38:09):
It so far?
Speaker 6 (38:12):
We win the biggest I would do whatever it takes
to win games, whatever phase it is, whether it's special teams,
defense or offense. I don't think we can just say
this is how we want to win. We'll take it
however it comes. I want us our team to be
ready to be flexible enough to play complimenting football. But
we can lean on all three phases. Maybe one week
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one phase does it needs needs a little bit more
from them than the others, but I think we're willing
to do that. We have a great team dynamic, and
it's a team game four reasons, so I'm not really
focused on the result, whether it's a win or loss,
more than I am in you guys to play at
their best. That's that's my focus, a lot of the best.
We can live with the results.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Klain Is Sataki head coach number seventeen, Rank five and
Oh b Yu Cougar's coogs are off this week as
they continue in a Big Twelve play. What is the
biggest difference in terms of the opposition and one's.
Speaker 6 (39:06):
Like, Well, the biggest difference is that it's tough football.
And so you look at the parody in the Big Twelve,
even from last year, that was an eye opening experience.
We knew that it was going to be tough, but
there's nothing more important than actually the experience itself. So
when we went through it, played nine games in a
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row in this conference, realized that, man, this conference is
really good everybody. We knew that going into it, but
there's another thing to know it anohing to feel it.
And so when the players felt that it's uncharted territory
now that they know about it more, it gave them
a little bit more of a Okay, this is a comparison.
What I know what it was like last year. I
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need to be ready this summer and be ready to January.
So the team had a different sense of urgency in
terms of working out and getting ready to go. So
January saw a new team in regards to work out
and taking the field, understanding the scheme, all the little
things that details became more important, and now we're seeing
the result of that. So I'm excited to see these
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guys continue to play. I want to get better as
a team. The important thing is we have a great
foundation built around love and trust with each other and
it's working so far. So we've got to keep building
on it, stay humble and hungry, and keep trying to
get better.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
You mentioned you have this bye week this week and
obviously after you know, you play three road games in
your first five games, Like, that's not Power five football
usually does not. That's not how it usually it works.
So I'm sure you need the time off. How do
you get balanced between the time off and keeping them
sharp and working on things? What's that let that balance
like for you at this point in the season.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
Well, the balance for us is we're still practicing. So
this week is still practice, just like if there's a game.
The only difference is there's no game on Saturday, so
we are the approach, work hard, brind get to the practices,
find ways and make mistakes in practice. From them, and
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then at the end of the week where it's a
lot cleaner differences. We don't play games, so we're not
going to get beat up physically that way, so we
can recover over the weekend, start again, and then we
get a little bit more extra focus on Arizona that's
coming into our Frost Stadium. And they had a great
game last week. They went out to Salt Lake City
and beat Utah, really tough environment to play, and so
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we know that they're ready for this moment. We just
got to be ready for ourselves.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Yeah, I'm honest, and I'm sure they made lots of
fans in provo by beating the guys in Salt Lake.
But also I'm sure got your guys extra attention because
of the respect I know you guys have for Utah's program.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Coach, coach, last last.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Thing, what would it mean to you personally considering it's
your own matter to get this team to the playoff.
Speaker 6 (42:02):
I'm just trying to get us to week six. I'm
trying to get us to the next step. I'll say
something about the playoffs that we've never had a path
as clear as and that it is now in bya history. Yeah,
if you want to get to the playoffs, you win
the conference that's never been done before in the independence
era in Mountain West, and then the whack that's never
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been as clear. So now we have that, we understand
the path to the road that takes to get there.
But we can't do it by looking further ahead. We
need to stick stick to what's in front of us,
and that's Arizona. That's just bye week in Arizona next week.
And I think we have that type of mentality. Find
ways to get better, stay humble, don't assume anything other
than hard work needs to be done. We can do that.
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I feel good about what we can get done next week.
I'm not really wiking past that as a team, and
to be inappropriate for me to do that when we
know how tough college football is.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
No question, no question.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
But I do, knowing the history, know what LaBelle Edwards
did there and how many great seasons you had and
you couldn't get that shot. I do know that there's
a different level of importance and a different level of
joy that would come with getting just that opportunity, which
now is a possibility with this with this new league
and with the new college ball Playoff coach Jellis and
honored to catch up with you. Your programs obviously in
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a great place. Thanks so much for joining us on
Fox Sports Tradio.
Speaker 6 (43:21):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Pleasures all ours.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
I mean, buyer you, Me and Jay stew were old
enough to remember when BYU used to be in the
whack and they had you know, I mean, I'm not
going to sit here and say I remember Steve Young.
I definitely don't remember Jim McMahon playing there, but the
debt mers as well, and they always had a quarterback
and they threw it around and put up big points,
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but they were never considered at the level of college
football as elite. And then you see them like the
Holiday Bowl. And now that obviously college football has changed.
They're in the league, they're competing in the league, and
they can actually, you know, they could actually get to
the playoffs.
Speaker 9 (44:01):
It is one of the still contested national championships, especially
with utes fans of our generation. Really, I mean, people
still will contest what by You did in the early
to mid eighties, but you're right, like that was the
only path that they had and the only that's where
college football was set up back then, where you're just ending.
Speaker 8 (44:21):
Up your bowl.
Speaker 9 (44:23):
You fed to the Holiday Bowl, and that's all that
they could do at the time. That's the only place
that they could go. Now it seems like such a
foreign concept. But I think that was difficult for people
to to understand or grasp on how you could claim
a national champion in a Holiday Bowl. But they did,
and forty years later people are still arguing about it.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Yep, yeah it is. It is netty stuff.
Speaker 9 (44:48):
Now people argue more about that than the like the
split national championship between Nebraska and Michigan or Colorado and
Georgia Tech.
Speaker 7 (44:56):
Georgia Tech, Yes, bring them back now, you bring them back,
rev Yes. By the way, props to Sam on his
Nico Collins pick. Jason Stewart said, you know, we got
to give Sam credit.
Speaker 8 (45:08):
When we were talking about to apologize. We need to apologize.
Speaker 10 (45:11):
How apologies not needed? I just you know, I just
have an eye for these things and eye for talent.
You we've talked about programs we wanted to see back.
Remember that a couple of weeks ago in Georgia Cup
was one I died on that Upscure Hill. I really
did perish there, did I say?
Speaker 8 (45:23):
B Yu. I thought, I said b Yu.
Speaker 9 (45:26):
In my my draft, I thought BYU was my first rounding.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 10 (45:30):
Mine was Miami and then Georgia Tech because they do
draw so much attention now, not so much because they are.
Speaker 8 (45:37):
In the Big twelve.
Speaker 10 (45:38):
But by the way, I know that like they're they're
pretty high up there in Provo. I'm not sure how high,
but I don't think that's one of the most unbelievably
beautiful settings for college football, with those mountains in the
background there in Provo. I mean sometimes there's snow capped
and it's just gorgeous, just gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
The Wasatch Mountains.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Yeah you got me. I don't know.
Speaker 8 (45:58):
Yes, they are.
Speaker 9 (46:00):
Yeah, at Rice Ecles as well, in Salt Lake City
you get that backdrop, but not as much of in Provo.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
Pro is just yeah, beautiful.
Speaker 6 (46:08):
I was.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
I was stuck in Provo on a Sunday once. I'm
not sure. It was not bad.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
It was just it wasn't a lot to do. You
could go to the restaurant. There were restaurants opened, obviously,
no booze and stuff. But I remember it was like
I was doing a game. It was early it may
have been it was just I think it was in December.
It was a BYU air Force game and the Maryout Center,
but neither team was particularly good at the time, and
somehow it ended up on ABC. It was after air
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Force had had been pretty good the first time Joe
Scott was there. Jo Scott's back there as head coach. Anyway,
they played BYU and I remember getting done and I
couldn't fly out that day because there was snow and
ice back in Hartford, and so I was like, all right, well,
college football, I mean NFL Sunday in Provo.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
It was different, beautiful area though.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
Forty five excuse me, forty nine feet above sea level
is Provo, Utah.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
There's your answer, So not quite a mile high.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
But as as I think I was, am appropriately said,
pretty high up there, right, That's that's.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
He's right, probably enough to you'd notice the difference a
little bit. No, how you breathey.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Five yeah, forty five. Absolutely, you're huffing and puffing.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
It's some Wyoming's like seventy two hundred feet that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
But fortate, what's the highest you've ever been Updug?
Speaker 6 (47:26):
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (47:27):
Un to play a basketball game?
Speaker 6 (47:28):
No?
Speaker 10 (47:28):
Like just in like hiking like I've been in Colorado
in a breckenridge outside Wreckage fourteen thousand feet and it
was never, never, the very hard to breathe.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
And you group, I mean, I was in a big
sky when I went skiing last last summer, I mean
summer last winter. But I don't know the elevation it was.
I don't know the elevation in big Sky. And we
didn't go to yeah, I mean, I guess we went
to the resort. So we went out and went skiing,
and I had no idea. But I haven't been hiking
(47:57):
up there.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
I don't.
Speaker 9 (47:58):
This conversation, by the way, was a plot premise in
an episode of the King of Queens where Doug had
to go on a work trip with Carrie. Yeah, and
she gave him a book to read because they had
no TVs. And it was about Mount Everest. And then
her boss asked him how high he's been, and he
just remembered from the Book of Everest height he said,
(48:18):
twenty nine thirty two feet. The boss is like, you've
climbed Mount Everest. Doug like, yep, yes I have. Oh
it's one of the better ones.
Speaker 3 (48:29):
He did an oxygen tank.
Speaker 8 (48:31):
Yeah, right, and Doug came to the toast of the town.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
Doug and King of Queen.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Yeah, yes, Doug Heffertan, Doug, Doug Heiffertan, there you go.
King of Queen's kind of you know, it's interesting. We
always talked about.
Speaker 8 (48:44):
A favorite sitcom.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
Really, Yes, what was the something about Raymond?
Speaker 2 (48:50):
What was the Raymond one? Everybody Loves Everybody Raymond?
Speaker 1 (48:53):
I thought that was good the same time, same sort
of a lot of similar setups there, right.
Speaker 9 (48:59):
Yeah, there was a connection. It was kind of like, yeah,
a little bit. Ray Romano appeared in a couple episodes.
Ray Romano's brother was in King of Queens for the
early seasons.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
I didn't know Ray Romano had a brother.
Speaker 8 (49:12):
Brings me back to Larry. I think his name was
Larry
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