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On a Thursday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb: Doug talks about the state of the Dallas Cowboys and how things seem dysfunctional between Jerry Jones and Mike McCarthy.

 Doug welcomes FSR MLB Insider Jon Morosi to preview the World Series.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:45):
it is today?

Speaker 2 (00:47):
I load?

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Do you know what day it is today?

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Of course I do, Doug. It's October the twenty fourth, No.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
No one week till Halloween.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
No no, no, no Jay Suing day days.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
I definitely birthday. I thought it wasn't a part of
this bit. I already know the answer. So I can
I just say it out loud? Or do you want
to say it out loud? You can say out loud
today is Doug Gottlieb's first time coaching a basketball game
on the college level in front of Live pride.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
That was a mouthful. I was going to say, it's
game day. I was just gonna go with game day.
I thought game day was perfectly okay. But I do
appreciate that it's game I love What day is today?

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Game day?

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:35):
What what day is day? Sammy? What day is today?

Speaker 4 (01:38):
Game day?

Speaker 5 (01:40):
Ah?

Speaker 1 (01:41):
There you go, there you go, Okay, we'll get back on.
Get back to that at some point in the show.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
We're also where at Saint Norbert's.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, we're playing Saint Robert's. I don't what is what
is Saint Norbert the Saint of That's what I'd like
to know.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
I can I kind of look that up? Will that
that'd be a Will that be part of your pregame
scouting report tonight?

Speaker 1 (02:04):
I don't know. It all depends on what is this
that if I can, if I can find a way
to to put it all together, maybe.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
That is where Lombardi's Green Bay Packers used to have
training camp back of the day.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Sure, well, I mean it's it's a ten minutes from
lambeau Field. It's it's in town. It's in the Pier,
which is the uh southern, yeah, southern, southwestern suburb. Really
nice area of green Bay. But yeah, well, I don't know.
I've never heard of Norbert nor I don't know why

(02:35):
he was sainted. And what significance does Saint Norbert have
on us and on history? I'm not sure for me.
Really good team, really well coached. Coach Gresh played at
Green Bay, his son's their best player. They almost beat
green Bay last year, and this is the green Bay
team that won eighteen games, so it'll be it'll be

(02:56):
a really good challenge. And they they and deliberately.

Speaker 6 (03:02):
Yes, Sammy, here's a little bit of irony here. You're
from Orange, California. Correct, there's a Saint Norbert Catholic church
in Orange, California. Kind of interesting, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Comes full circle and Stan and Saint Norbert himself was
a priest who founded the Norbertine Order in the twelfth century.
But apparently he could not go to his left, So
maybe that'll make it onto your scout and report tonight.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
St. Norbert was all right, huh, that's all right. Maybe
it was like Monogenobi Monagoba's left and only and I
went left and stayed left, and even when he went right,
he went left. All right, let's talk some cowboys, shall we.
As Jerry Jones said this on his on his radio
hit earlier this week about the play calling.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Well, we're designing bad plays or we're designing bad concepts.
The facts are that there's some of that, but there's
also some of execution. There are some of the talent.
I like our I really do like our talent. I
like our young talent, but young talent has a few
more mistakes associated with it than than if you are

(04:08):
dealing with a veteran player.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
So Jerry Jones say, is we're designing bad plays. The
designer of said plays is none of them. Mike McCarthy
here's what he had to say.

Speaker 7 (04:20):
I thought, Jerry all the time. You know, we've had
time to go through the cell scout, so I can't
really I didn't see the comments specifically, so, but I
don't think we have bad callships in that place, but
I'll go back and check.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
So it was one of those like, if we're real
with it, you guys, tell me what you heard, because
what I just heard and what I know to be
true is Jerry Jones just said they have bad plays,
bad concepts, and which is calling out his coach, and
his coach laughed at the comment, the Cowboys, how's that

(04:59):
working out for you? I've never heard such a thing.
And again, as it relates to coaching, this is a
real thing.

Speaker 8 (05:08):
You know.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
My guys know, like, we're not saying anything any about
our players and definitely not say anything negative about our plays.
I can absorb any of the criticism if things don't
go well. But yeah, hey, think about how well that's
gonna go with me of one of our players, Like, hey, listen,
we lost to Saint Norbert's, but it was because we
had bad plays and bad concepts. Yeah, that's that's amazing.

(05:33):
That's crazy. Sound not just like Jerry Jones has said
stuff like that in the past. But then Mike McCarthy
literally laughing. Listen to Mike McCarthy's response.

Speaker 7 (05:44):
I thought that Jerry all the time. You know, we've
had time to go through the cell scout, so I
can't really I didn't see the comments specifically, so but
I don't think we have bad hallships a bad place.
But I'll go back and check.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
I'll go back and check. Yikes, this on the heels
of a ESPN report that the players hate that the
fans are around, always around, and that he's you know,
taking them around. I will point out that's part of
the new business of sports, where it's not just about
a ticket, it's about an overall experience. And if the experience,

(06:20):
you know, brings you in a closer contact with the players,
then you know more people will probably purchase the set
experience that said, I mean, that's that's an interesting That's
just those two sound bites are all you need to
know about the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
Yes, I just thought of this, So there's there's another
piece to this, and I don't think we covered it
on the show. I know it was covered last week,
maybe earlier this week. Remember Troy Aikman went on the
radio and said this about the receivers.

Speaker 9 (06:48):
But I think the routes are terrible. I think they
run terrible routes. And I thought that beyond this year,
and I think Sadie's got to improve and his route running.
And as a quarterback, if you're not certain where guys
are going to be consistently, it's hard, it's hard to
play the position. And so that's that's what I see.
I see guys lazy coming off the line of scrimmage.
Sometimes they sometimes they run. Usually if they do, it's

(07:11):
because they're anticipating they're going to get the football in
that play. But if they're not, they don't, and it
all ties together.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
So that's that's Troy Aikman put it in on the players.
Jerry Jones probably took that personal because he's he's responsible
for the players. And then he turned this into a
coaching thing. And then Mike McCarthy basically said, Jerry can
say it to my face if he wants to.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
It's an all timer. They put the discs in dysfunction
and look, this is what happens when you lose is
people question it and the bad programs are bad organizations
fall apart. I don't think there's been lots of people
to talk about Jerry Jones and being a GM. He
doesn't make the GM calls. You know, he'll negotiate deals.

(07:55):
He's kind of the figurehead. But the reality is they
have a really good staff. They have they've had really
good players. They have some injuries, and obviously they have
some imbalance in terms of their salaries. They've had an
offensive line that retired they had and that's been replenished,
and then defensively, the lost or defensive coordinator brought in
Mike simmer. I don't think that's worked. But this is

(08:18):
the height of distraction. Now, how many times have we
heard from NFL coaches, football coaches in general, by no distractions.
Your owner is being a slight distraction, and then your
head coach added to that, did not take away from
said distraction. Okay, the good news is they have an

(08:38):
easy game this weekend against a desperate forty nine Ers
team that does is depleted by injury. How the Niners
done against the Cowboys previously? I think you know the
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(09:01):
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John Paul Morosi will join us. I got workouts for
tomorrow's World Series going on right now at the Ravine.
We'll get to that. But do you guys know the
Rams and Vikings have only been five times in the

(09:22):
last ten years. I mean, seems like it, it'd be
a low number. But then half the time, I don't know.
It's weird. Both teams have been successful on and off right. Obviously,
the Rams have been to two Super Bowls in the
last ten years, Vikings have not. But the Vikings have
been kind of a perennial I feel like a perennial
playoff team. Tonight we have obviously a game at so

(09:44):
far it's gonna be pretty cool. The issue though, is that, man,
even though you have somebody from your coaching tree and
Kevin O'Connell coming in, who do the Rams have in
terms of personnel? They've just been decimated, decimated by injuries.
Now Cooper Cup is expected to play? Is that we

(10:05):
do we have confirmation of that not going to play.
Let's go to Isaac Low and Cron for a for
an injury update. Isaac, what do you got?

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Yeah? They officially activated Puka Nakua from injured reserve in fact,
just moments ago, so he is set to return tonight
after missing five games due to a sprained knee. Cooper
Cup not expected to be.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
Back just yet.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Okay, noted.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Noted, I don't know, no, no, I bet bet, I
beg your pardon, I read that wrong.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
No, he is.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
He is expected to be back. He has officially no
injury designation. Uh Nikuah was listed as questionable, but they
officially activated uh Nikua just a short time ago. And
Cup has no injury designation because he participated in four
practice this week.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
So I was right. Cooper Cups back now, Puka Neuku
is back. Stan's the reason they're just gonna throw around
the yard. Those two dudes. You're just gonna throw it
around the yard. That said, obviously not a super super
strong year at all for the Minnesota vik for the
La Rams take on the Minnesota Vikings. I just we

(11:25):
we keep holding our breath for the Sam Donald thing
to collapse. And I don't know, a standalone game on
a Thursday night at plus the trade deadline looming, this
becomes a big one for him to show that he
can lead this team to the playoffs. Let's get you
to Isaac loun Khan before we get you some baseball
with JP Morosi Hilo alrighty dug.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
On the Viking side, multiple outlets reporting they are downgrading
tight end TJ. Howkinson to out for tonight's game against
the Rams. Hawkinson towards ACL and MCL in Week sixteen
of last season. I mean he's now expected to make
his season debut next week against the Indianapolis Colts. Today,
Detroit Lions receiver Jamison Williams was officially suspended two games

(12:06):
for violating the NFL's policy on performance enhancing substances. Williams
then released a statement via his agent, reading quote, the
news came as a complete surprise that I am still
trying to understand unquote. The Miami Dolphins added receiver Tyreek
Hill to their injury report today. He was listed as
a limited participant in practice due to a foot injury.

(12:27):
Washington Commander's quarterback Jade Daniels did not practice today because
of a rib injury sustained in the last week's win
over Carolina. Kansas City Chiefs head coach Andy Reid said
newly acquired receiver DeAndre Hopkins could make his debut as
early as this Sunday's game at Las Vegas and Carolina
Panthers quarterback Andy Dalton did not practice today because of
a sprained right thumb that he sustained in a car

(12:50):
accident on Tuesday. Doug, back to you.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
All right, thank you so much. I loats Doug Gottlieb
Show Fox Sports Radio. Let's welcome in our Fox Sports
Radio and LB insider John Paul J P. Mer Rossi
joins us in the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.
I've made the case. Okay, I'm I'm a longtime baseball fan.
I'm not you, obviously, I'm not Jay Stu. I go

(13:14):
to a couple of games a year. I have some
some some of my friend's sons are playing. I know
people in front offices. I love baseball. Baseball has been
really good the past couple years. The rule changes have
made it a better and a better watch, But none
of that matters if some non you know people like
me don't watch in the world in the biggest game,

(13:35):
how big do you think the fact that we have
Yankees and Dodgers in the World Series is for the
overall health of the sport?

Speaker 8 (13:42):
Well, the first of all, happy World Series, and second
of all, I really appreciate the way that you laid
out the question because it's not just now a time
and an occasion for the Dodgers and Yankees to face
each other, but they're facing each other at a time
where the game itself and the product is the best
version that it's been in a while, and I think

(14:03):
in that respect, it's really a unique opportunity for the
sports to showcase what it can do when when the
biggest stars are involved and the product itself is also
at its peak. And so you've got Otani and Judge,
one of them is about to become a first time
World Series champion in his World Series debut, and there's

(14:24):
going to either be a parade in LA which they
really couldn't have in twenty twenty, or there's going to
be a parade down the Canyon of Heros in New York.
And for American baseball fans and indeed fans around the
world who understand the impact of Otani and how many
people in Japan will be watching Games one and two
on weekend mornings at eight am and Tokyo, it's just

(14:48):
a it feels like Doug that there's going to be
a moment and the one thing I want to get
out in front of and caution everybody here, do not
get yourself twisted up in well, well, if it doesn't
have the same market share in Grand Rapids, Michigan that
it had for the Cardinals, and Royals in eighty five.
Then for some reason it's not as big. No, the

(15:08):
world is different. We've got all these different streaming services
and all these different channels, and the world is on
your phone in your pocket, and if you're getting the
right amount of impressions and whatever it is via social media,
I think the game is going to resonate. The idea
right now is a resonance and relevance. And Doug, what
you're talking about here is that baseball right now feels

(15:29):
as relevant as it has been in probably a couple decades.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
I completely agree. Okay, let's talk about the matchup. I mean,
Dodgers had to fight back against the Padres, and I
think it'd be an easy case to make that the
Padres probably, you know, with their starting pitching, they might
have a better roster, but they did it with incredible pitching,
some with starters, but a lot with that bullpen. What's
the matchup likewise, matchup wise look like for this series?

Speaker 8 (15:59):
Well, I think couple things stand out to me. Number one,
you're right, the Dodgers having to figure out their their
pitching and and I think progressively, as the as the
month has gone along, they've gotten better and better at
managing what is a suboptimal set of starting pitching because
they don't have Glass, now, they don't have Stone, they
don't have Kershaw, so that they're they're operating at a

(16:20):
diminished level. And yet they've still been good enough to
beat the Padres, who I thought were as complete of
a team as there was to your point, and then
the Mets and what that was a very competitive and
compelling six game series, despite how many of the games
were lopsided within the overall set of games. But the
Yankees are a different challenge. And one of the biggest
reasons why, Doug is the Yankees do not go outside

(16:42):
the zone, and that is I think the biggest difference.
The Yankees are the most disciplined team in the playoffs
in terms of not chasing. And so if you want
to get Toto out and Judge out and Stanton out
and Glaber out and Rizzo, by and large, you got
to be in the zone. And if you're not going
to be in the zone, then you're gonna start walking guys.

(17:05):
And that was exactly what happened to the Guardians. Really
good pitching staff, but they walked too many batters and
that eventually stung them when there were two guys on base.
When stand at that ball that still hasn't landed yet
somewhere in Ohio, and I think that to me, Dougs,
is what I'm seeing right now is is I think
the Yankees are a higher level of difficult at bat
that the Dodgers pitching staff. As great as they've been,

(17:27):
they have not encountered a team yet like this one.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Okay, the one thing about the Yankees that everybody tells
me is they are obnoxious with how they ride the
umpires for the strike zone right Both them and the
Dodgers really worked to count. The Yankees are known in
the sport wrong by the way.

Speaker 10 (17:43):
JP, well, I guess what I'd say is this a
couple of things.

Speaker 8 (17:47):
Number One, we have the benefit in our baseball media
community of the great work of John Boy. John Boy
covers the Yankees very closely. Happens to be someone who
who is not bashful about about telling the umpires what's
going on. And there's a lot of cameras there. I
tend to think that there are probably other managers who

(18:08):
say about as much as Aaron, but there aren't quite
as many cameras aimed at the other twenty nine managers
and and Aaron I think has become somewhat famous. So
there's probably some truth to it, but the perception I
think is also fed into that that rap a little bit.
But to your point, Doug, it's going to be interesting
because now now all the thoughts about well MLB wants

(18:29):
to quote unquote that the Yankees and Dodgers, which some
people have said, well, guess what they got it now.
So so at this point in time, I don't want
to hear anybody from any markets saying, well, the fingers
being put up the scale for this team or the other. No,
the matchup is there. It's the one that that a
lot of people wanted to see. You're gonna get it,
and and at this point in time, I think everybody's

(18:50):
just thrilled that it's a it's a really compelling matchup.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
Okay, but I wanted to get to the fact the
automated strike shown which Manfred said, hey, you know, sometime
in the next four years, what are we waiting for?
Minor leaguees? Has it? It works? Works really well? What
are we waiting for?

Speaker 8 (19:11):
I think a couple of things are important here, and
usually whenever there's a hold up in something like this
where to your point, the technology exists, but there are
two really big negotiations that have to be handled here.
One is the next CVA with the players, and one
is the next CBA with the umpires. And that's why
you can't just snap your fingers and boom put the

(19:32):
technology out there. It's some technology you can, but this
is this is now, i think, fundamentally altering the just
the modality of what the umpire is doing. And so
it's not quite a ready made microwavable fix where it
changes everything immediately. It's going to take a little bit
more time, i think, because of the CBA piece and

(19:53):
also the time of game piece. And by the way,
i'm a supporter of this, of the challenge system, by
which you're not gonna have every single pitch that's that's
done by the by the by the automated ball strike system,
but rather the challenge. If there's a ball that is
like two balls with outside, they get called a strike,
the hitter taps his helmet, the review happened. It takes

(20:14):
ten seconds, and then all of a sudden you're back
in the count rolling again. That system is better than
every pitch being called, in my opinion, because if you
called every pitch, you would take out I think a
lot of the human element, not just for the umpire,
but for the pitcher, for the catcher, for the batter.
That's a beautiful part of the game. And I don't
think I want to give all of it over the computers.
But the big mistakes, yes, I do support that, and

(20:36):
I think eventually does that's where baseball.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Is going to go. Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox
Sports Radio. John Paul Morosi is is our guest. Okay,
obviously we know the top headliners. We kind of did
this a little bit earlier on the show. Who's the
guy we're not talking about?

Speaker 10 (20:55):
Effects the series the most, So a couple a couple
of guys on my Number one on the Yankee side
of things, Luke Weaver, who had one major league offer
last offseason.

Speaker 8 (21:06):
It was from the New York Yankees to be a
depth starter. The Yankees when spring training starter they thought
he was going to be probably and this is an
honest assessment from the Yankees, they thought he was their
seventh or eighth starters. They thought he was going to
be at TRIPAA or insurance. The coal injury happened, obviously,
but that was not what their role was. They didn't
think he was going to be closing, closing out to

(21:27):
the American League tenant clinching game. So Luke Weaver changes
fastball grip, became a different guy, and all of a sudden,
now he's the best closer they've had in New York
in a long time. And then Holmes is better now earlier.

Speaker 9 (21:39):
In the game.

Speaker 8 (21:40):
So I think that's on the Yankee side of things.
Glaber Torres, by the way, I think it's been overshadowed
a bit by the other superstars. There no no excellent postseasons,
excellent postseasons. And then on the Dodger side, two guys
on the opensive side, Tommy Edmond NLCSMVP, I still feel
like he hasn't gotten quite the do that he deserves
because he could bounce Aro on the field for you
and be an above average defender a multiple positions. And

(22:00):
then Key K Hernandez, who likes Stanton for the Yankees,
is just playing better in the month of October, so
you've got all ready to cast the stars. And then
guys like Edmund and Key K and John Carlow and Weaver,
who seemed to be elevating their game. So it is
going to be, I believe, a world series for the Ages.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Stuck Outleab show here on Fox Sports Trader. That's the
voice of John Paul Morosi. Of course, he's our Major
League Baseball insider and an MLB Network reporter. Enjoy the series.
We'll talk very very soon.

Speaker 10 (22:29):
Thanks may our guests, Doug happy world here in my
friend all the best few as well as is starting
with basketball season two.

Speaker 8 (22:34):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah, you're your Wolverring's look very very good by the
way I mean, and really good.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Better.

Speaker 8 (22:39):
I saw big time, big time committed for next year
as well. Dusky's doing work, so good stuff there.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Dusty is doing a great great job. They blew out
Oakland in their scrimmage I believe, or maybe the exhibition
game to start a thinking with a scrimmage charity scrimmage,
if you will, And Oakland's good. Just Michigan's really really good.
Thanks John. John of course always gives us our our
Michigan update. Jay Stu, if I were to ask to you,

(23:07):
if are to ask you, okay, because you've been pretty
much off with most every prediction and and you know
you can own it as if you weren't. But most
of the thing you obviously part of it is you'r
such a curmudgeon. Now the Dodgers finally get to the
World Series, what to you is that is the biggest thing?
And I know it's hard, like previewing stuff is dumb,

(23:29):
But as a as somebody who watches like every Dodger game,
what's the biggest thing you're looking for?

Speaker 4 (23:34):
And let's clarify, Previewing stuff is not dumb. Predicting stuff
is dumb. There's a there's a distinct difference. In my mind.
I think predicting is lazy radio previewing. I like, I
like that. Let me give you one thing that I'm
thinking about, and I am. I am optimistic about this series.
It's so rare that I go into a series with

(23:56):
my Dodgers feeling optimistic. It just seems like everything has
kind of gone our way since Game three of the
LEDs And then what I'm about to say there is
there's almost like a cosmic intrusion into my optimism. Losing

(24:16):
the great Fernando Alinzuela this week is very sad rip Fernando,
But There's there's a way that I think this is
going to work for the Dodgers in a cosmic way.
You could wear number thirty four on their sleeves. Fernando
Avelinzuela pitched in the last World Series that the Dodgers

(24:38):
had against the Yankees in nineteen eighty one. That was
the year of Fernando Mania. There are so many things
kind of working here from like a math standpoint and
a cosmic standpoint that I really do think that, you know,
not that the Dodgers need any more motivation, but this
could work for the Dodgers. I really do think so.
So not only do I like the matchup and the

(24:58):
way the bullpen's pitching, I just think that there's something
maybe metaphysical going on here too.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Really, do you guys buy that, Isaac? You buy the metaphysical,
like there's something greater at work, The gods of karma
are coming.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
Together for the Yeah, I wouldd Vin Scully to that.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
I mean, what about Vin Scullyif you have a sombrero,
throw it to the guy.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
That's what I mean.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Baby, we don't understand what does that have to do
with him saying Fernando just died?

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Well, First of all, Vin was the English language soundtrack
of Fernandomania. He delivered that famous line when he pitched
his No. Hitter in nineteen ninety. And remember, I think
it was the either the twenty seventeen or twenty eighteen
World series. They did that thing where Vin went out
to the mound to throw out the first pitch, then

(26:01):
pretended to injure his shoulder, so he called Fernando out
to the mound.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
To relieve him.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
So he absolutely plays them to the Karma.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Feels like I reached Sammy.

Speaker 6 (26:11):
What do you think I didn't say, oh, are you
reacting to his I will say this, I think they're
emotionally more charged for this world series. I think Shohey
makes all of these guys step up their game. I mean,
you have like a stud player like everyone else, just
wants to match his greatness. So that's the thing I think. Yeah,
I think there is some emotional The Fernando stuff will

(26:33):
be kind of an emotional motive for them. I don't
know if it goes into the cosmos, but there is
something palpable at play here. It's not just the guys
on the roster. There's something. There's something else for the Dodgers.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
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(27:10):
You have two high powered offenses when healthy, and the
Rams are now healthy. I don't think the Rams defense
is particularly good. I think the Vikings win and cover,
so I take the Vikings even though they're giving two
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Speaker 2 (28:09):
No.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Uh, what like professional sports sound like? Now we have
like basketball continually on the docket. It was I was
watching last night and I again, I continue to believe
that even though Clippers have a new arena, you know,
there's some Obviously, the Celtics look dominant in their in
their first game. This is one year in which maybe

(28:33):
because there isn't too much offcourt drama, there just hasn't been.
There just hasn't been a ton of build up for
the NBA season. But we are on the eve of
the World Series kicking off and I can't wait. Two
thousand World Series two, I've assuen me. Twenty twenty four
World Series is Dodgers Yankees. Of course we haven't seen
this in forty years, so should be awesome. But with

(28:57):
no like NFL tonight or do we have wait, we
do have NFL night, don't we?

Speaker 3 (29:02):
I totally forgot Vikings Rams.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Vikings Rams. That's what it is. Sammy Donald comes home,
Sam Donald comes home. That's pretty cool. Outside of that, eh,
So on Thursdays, we'd like to throw it back.

Speaker 6 (29:19):
Don't call it a throwback Thursday.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
All right, what's the throwback Thursday year to what we
were doing?

Speaker 4 (29:29):
Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here. Try to
go back to me to the year two thousand. Now,
this is a very controversial thing, and I don't want
to spend a segment on it. But the year two
thousand was either the last year of the millennium or
it was the first year of the millennium. That's a
very controversial topic and I don't want to get into it.

(29:52):
We could spend the.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Other year very controversial. It's it's a it is. People
go on one side or the other. I don't know
if anybody sits around and argues it though.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
So in the year two thousand, just like tonight, the
Vikings visited the Rams. But if you remember, the Rams
were in Saint Louis, The Rams are the greatest show
on turf. The Rams were coming off a Super Bowl
championship in the year two thousand, twenty four years ago.

(30:24):
This fall. Mike Martz was making his rookie head coaching
debut that year. Remember, Mike Martz was the offensive mind
behind the Rams team that won the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Mark Bulger Is on quarterback.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and he took over Mike Martz and
they played a Vikings team if you remember right, you
know from their late nineties when after they drafted Randy
Moss and they had Randall Cunneham read an amazing season. Well,
Dante Culpepper was the quarterback this night, so you had
Dante Culpepper's Vikings visiting Kurt Warner's Rams in two thousand.

(31:06):
The Rams won forty to twenty nine that night. Kurt
Warner had a very big night, throwing for three hundred
and forty six yards. Marshall Falk though he really stood out.
Marshall Falk ran for one hundred and thirty five yards
and four touchdowns. Doug Dante Culpepper had an okay night.

(31:28):
Robert Smith was the rusher, was the running back, didn't
do much. The Rams win that night, and later on
that season the Ravens would go on to win their
first Super Bowl. Of course, everyone remembers ray Lewis had
has an unfortunate thing happened leading up to that Super Bowl,
But when.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
The only unfortunately happened to Ray Lewis, I think an
unfattunate thing happened to the guy who was killed.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
That's a great point. The unfortunate thing happened involving Ray Lewis.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Was the was the I mean, this is obviously Sam
was young, but this is like how he became Big
Apple Sam. That was the Subway series, wasn't it? Subway
Series series? Isn't that two thousand?

Speaker 6 (32:14):
That's when my big Apple Sam dumb was born.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
And then of course we had two steroid guys going
at it with Mike Piazza and uh, Roger Clemens. Right,
the Mike Piazza broken bat that landed, you know, like
on the ground at Roger Clemens. Rogers, Clemens got mad,
How dare your bat break?

Speaker 3 (32:37):
You want to hear it?

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Pitch the ball? Are you sure?

Speaker 3 (32:39):
Here we go.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
The barrel of the bat comes back at Roger Clemens
and he fires the back back toward Piazza, who is
going down the first base line.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
I'm not really sure what Piazza did wrong to have
his bat break.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
Anyone, It did nothing wrong. Clemens was obviously on a
steroid roid rage. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
And one tidbit about this, and I'll try to put
this as delicately as possible. This happened very early in
Game two, and at the time, among other things, clemens
pregame preparation routine included the having the Yankees trainer applying
the hottest possible lineament to Clemens testicles. So perhaps that's

(33:35):
why he was so ornery early in the game. I'm
not making light up.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
How did where did this information come from?

Speaker 3 (33:41):
From the trainer himself? A guy named Steve Donahue.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
Was that where.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Liniment?

Speaker 1 (33:48):
What I mean, wait wait wait, so they would put
like hot so they have these hot clay packs.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
He would take, Yeah, he would take like the hottest
possible whirlpool bath bath.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
And so what they do is is when you want
heat in your in professional or collegiate sports, they have
these like clay packs, Sam, and the clay packs you
wrap them in like a towel because otherwise, I mean,
it's just too hot. And the heat they usually it's
like this hot hot, almost like boiling water that they
sit in and you take them out and you put
them and you wrap them and then I guess if

(34:20):
you want your balls warmed up like okay, but.

Speaker 6 (34:23):
We don't need to be roasting chestnuts on chestnuts on
an open fire, you know, what I.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Mean, chestnuts roasting on an open fire. I mean, that's
your pregame routine. That's your pregame routine. Now it might
have been because of all the steroids he was taking,
they had retracted and this is maybe his way to
get them to come down.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
I'm not wrapped if you do not get this kind
of analysis anywhere else, folks.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Or second, that's what happens when you take steroids. Right,
So anyway.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
Uh, twenty four years ago, Doug, Yeah, around this time
something would happened. It was the first time in the
history of the country it happened, and then it would
just become an annoying trend. The election results of two
thousand were not known on election day.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
About that.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
This is the al Gore one right.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
Hanging chess. George W.

Speaker 6 (35:18):
Bush, Florida Supreme part I was in I was in Russia.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
Well, do not have elections here?

Speaker 1 (35:24):
That was two thousand and one?

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Was that Saint Petersburg? Sam Chiming in there?

Speaker 4 (35:30):
Well? Once Pulton gets an office in the month, he.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Stays, dah, yes, Now yeah, Gavnski.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
What was your favorite thing about Russia? Doug?

Speaker 6 (35:41):
I know this offshoot question, but I'm just curious what
was your favorite thing about living there and playing there.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Making money?

Speaker 6 (35:49):
Good point, Yeah, Britney Grinder agreed before she got arrested
making money. Sorry, Jason, back to you.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
By a long bye bye. I mean listen, like seeing
that culture was amazing. I'm leaving also amazing, Wow, amazing.

Speaker 4 (36:04):
Well you're not cannot leave, Doug. You stifled.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
The thing about Russia is you always have captive audience.
Theyre not going anywhere. That's Yakov Schmiranov, by the way,
love it Yakov Smirenov's college. He's still around.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
I believe he's still around.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Okay, he has the theater in Brandson, Missouri.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
Right, Doug, you'll appreciate this. You've talked about this on
the show many times. I could tell you you have
any special place in your heart for this the show
Survivor debut.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Oh my gosh, my college roommates like audition for that show. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
I think it's the greatest show, most impactful show in
the history of television. Not just was it the first
real mainstream reality show, but that's how life works. Life
and business is about alliances, right, alliances and survive. Just
find a way to survive. Line yourself with the right pace. People,
you know, read the temperature of the room, find a

(37:04):
way to survive. So true, we were in Russia. We
were in Russia. Now we're in Russia. Two thousand and one.
Two thousand was my senior in college, but two thousand
and one. But we we couldn't wait for those cat
The cassette would come and they would have four episodes
on it. And I mean, here's how disciplined we were.
We'd watch one episode at a time, one episode of time.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
By the way, we have a Yakov Smirnov update. Not
only is he.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Allah, Let's go live at chapter five with a Yakov
sure Off update.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
Good, you do a good helicopter sound effect.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
By the way.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
That's He is now seventy three years old, and he
has just embarked on a new project. He has started
a new podcast called The Comedy Couch, where a recent
guest was John Lovett. So, Yakov smir.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Love John love Now, John love it's my favorite character
in the League of their Own cowgirls see the grass.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
He was the announcer, right, No, he was getting a scout.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
He was a scout.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
Oh, I thought he was the announced.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
You can come to Yeah. Now he has a podcast.
That's so surprising just started it. How many people on
this show have a podcast? I have another, I have two,
Jason has one. I never will, Sam Ney's that one.

(38:26):
I'll be Jap meets Big Apple.

Speaker 6 (38:29):
I'll be joining Brian Fenley to actually talk to you.
Celia Iowa here and about I can't.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Really promote I have a new podcast, because that's literally
everybody that's like saying I have something that a couple
of people have an email address, that's what it is.
Since you asked, I have a cellular phone, since.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
You asked my uh my podcast partner Brian Beckner and
I had did a special Dodgers preview that's out now
on the Ballerlifestyle dot com. Baller Lifestyle. We do our
own snarky Dodgers preview. I very much recommend it.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
I can't imagine you doing something snarky.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
Yeah, and I actually give praise to Andrew Friedman, which
I'm not inclined to do, but I kind of had
to give him a little bit of praise. Now. I
don't know what Andrew Friedman was doing in the year
two thousand, but I do know that while Mike Piazza
was getting a bat thrown at him and it was
probably listening to this and his discman on the way

(39:24):
to the game.

Speaker 5 (39:27):
Oh yeah, game changer, the solid.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
Has hip hop ever been the same since?

Speaker 1 (39:44):
No, No, No is the parallel? Is he Luca or
is he Larry Bird, Pylarry.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
Bird Larry Bird?

Speaker 5 (39:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (40:01):
And I think kind of like Larry Bird like you.
Now when we talk about all time great players, so
many people don't mention Larry Bird. Larry Bergh absolutely mentioned
in the Greatest Players of all Time. I think Eminem
probably doesn't get mentioned enough in the Greatest rappers of
all time.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
By the way, the term stan I had actually originated
with an Eminem song. I have one more sports one
that was the first Kobe Shack Phil Lakers championship. It
was called first year with the Lakers, and it was
a rather dramatic set of circumstances. Shaq was the MVP,
They took the league by a storm, had the best
record in the league, had to go to a deciding

(40:38):
fifth game in the opening round of Sacramento, nearly blew
a three to one lead in the conference finals, had
to come up with that epic comeback in Game seven
against the Blazers, featuring the Kobe to Shack epic unforgettable
dunk at the end of Game seven. And then they
go to the finals against Larry Bird, Reggie Miller and
the Pacers. Kobe sprains's ankle in Game two, comes back

(40:59):
with an iconic performance in Game four and overtime after
Shack fouls out, and then they win the series in
six and it was the first of the three straight championships.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
M And that's don't call it a comeback thurs don't
call it a throwback. Sorry, I get the song in
my head.

Speaker 6 (41:17):
Don't call it a don't call it a throwback Thursday.

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