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And everybody that pitched in.
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But yeah, about ten thousand acres burned a lot of
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Speaker 1 (01:34):
All right, good. That's what's what's really really, really really important,
really important. This is the Doug Gotlieb Show on Fox
Sports Radio. I saw this thing and I thought it
was really interesting. Clarence Hill, he writes for the All
City d l LS, He covers the Dallas Cowboys, has
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done so for years. You know, for the extent of
my time working a national radio for over twenty years,
I believe Clarence has covered the Cowboys. He says the
Cowboys are closing in on a deal to make offensive
coordator Brian Schottenheimer their new head coach. Hill said the
sides are quote expected to cross the finish line today
or no later than Friday. Again, this is from the report.
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Schottenheimer fits everything that owner Jerry Jones covets in his
head coaches. He will be inexpensive relative to other head
coaches in the league. As Schottenheimer has no other interviews Jones,
who doubles a double general manager, maintains control and continues
to be the face of the team. And it's someone
who with Jones is familiar. This is really interesting. I
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know everybody wants to say this shows the downfall of
the Dallas Cowboys, and you may be right. He may
be right, but continuity is a gigantic piece. When you
think you are close, when you think you're close, now,
my guess is that it's not a guess. The reality
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is that you think, Okay, the best chance for Jerry
Jones to be successful with the Cowboys this year is
not throwing a new offensive, new scheme, new verbiage at
Dak Prescott. They believe the offense was working, the defense
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wasn't working, and they had a bunch of injuries. But
this doesn't tell you anything other than or what tells
me is they didn't think Mike McCarthy would leave. They
thought they'd get Mike McCarthy's short term deal, kind of
a prove it sort of contract, and that they're really
happy with how the offense went, and they can figure out,
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do we keep Zimmer on the defense, do we change
the defensive coordinator. What does that all look like? The
weird part about it is how many times had people
been critical of Jerry Jones because you think Jerry Jones
wants to make the splashy hire. This is not a
splashy hire. Was Marty a great coach? He was? And
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I remember Marty Schottenheimer, his dad was head coach of
the Chiefs when they were awesome but sunk in the playoffs,
the Chargers when they're awesome, stunk in the playoffs, the
Browns when they're awesome, and the drive the fumble, that
was all Marty Schottenheimer. So he comes from good stock,
but not seen around the league as a great head
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coaching candidate. On the other hand, how many of these guys.
It's really weird. It's really weird. Like Ben Johnson is
a young, hot candidate because he's a fantastic offensive coordinator. Right,
we have no idea Ben Johnson can be a head coach.
It's a different job. It's a different thing like learning.
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There's so many other things that go with being a
head coach, even in basketball college basketball. I can't imagine
in the National Football League, although it still is about football.
It's weird the Cowboys offense has generally been really, really good.
And you can give credit to Mike McCarthy as he's
an offensive guy, but Schottenheimer was an offensive coordinator. And
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how many of these other offensive coordinators are getting jobs.
Why shouldn't Schottenheimer be considered. Yes, there were times in
the past with some of his previous jobs where their
offense was wildly underwhelming. But this to me is, Yeah,
some of it's Jerry wanting to maintain control, but a
lot of it is Jerry going like, wait, Dak likes
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this offense works for him. Offense isn't the reason that
we were getting beat injuries and defensive dysfunction was Let's
just get a big time defensive coordinator and fix our roster.
It doesn't mean that Jerry wants to have ultimate control
over coaching may and that's where he becomes like Al Davis.
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I honestly believe that it would have to be the
whole plan. Hey, this is what I'm doing on an offense.
This is who I'm gonna hire or what I'm gonna
do with the defense. This is the new special teams,
and this is how we're gonna do it. I get it.
I get it because there have been stops for Brian
Schottenheimer's offenses have underwhelmed. We all think it's Mike McCarthy's offense.
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Brian Schottenheimer more quarterback coach along for the ride, and
why would he be getting the Cowboys job when he
can't get any other jobs. But the things that we're
critical of Jerry Jones about is the splashy hires and
the splashy acquisitions. And this is not splash. This is
and they may be misjudging it based upon what they
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think is substantive. So I do I love it at
first glance. I don't. I would have loved Bill Belichick,
but I would guess Bill Belichick's not going right if
you can't hire somebody who's won a Super Bowl, one
in the playoffs and the rest of the league's going
to offensive guys, and your offense has been good. You
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like your offense? Why do you have to change your offense?
You don't?
Speaker 4 (07:12):
You don't.
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tire buying should be. Uh yeah. There's I guess kind
of big story in the National Football League, and it
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would probably be the idea that Brian Schottenheimer could soon
become the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. What's interesting
about Schottenheimer, who, of course has been an offensive coordinator
with the Jets. You're going back to when they went
to the AFC Championship Game twice, he was the offensive coordinator.
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Mark Sanchez was the quarterback, then the Saint Louis Rams.
Then he was in Seattle with Russell Wilson as his
offensive coordinator for two years I think right, Dan two years,
and then he was the Dallas Cowboys offensive coordinator the
last two years. And what's fascinating about it? And look,
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I know that in New York they were like eh, Seattle,
some people were like eh. But if you look back
in New York again, if you consider nobody thought Mark
Sanchez a great quarterback, and they still were able to
get to two AFC Championship games. It's not terrible, but
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there's a lot of talk of too conservative a play
calling style. Now, when he was with the Dallas Cowboys,
first he was a consultant, then he's promoted the offensive coordinator,
going back to I guess this is two years ago,
So the last two years he's been the offensive coordinator. Granted,
Mike McCarthy is really more the offense corney. He called
we think he calls the plays, but he works for Schottenheimer,
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and I just I think we're lacking a reasoning about
the potential for this move. I don't know if it's done. Okay,
the longer they wait, the longer they wait, the more
you think, okay, well hold on now. Maybe maybe they're
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waiting to see what happens, you know with Kellen Moore.
You know, if Kellen Moore, if they lose, does Kellen
Moore become the head coach and Schottenheimers remains they talk
him into staying as the offensive coordinator. I don't know.
Kellen Moore, of course, is a former Cowboy quarterback, former
Cowboy coach. Now he's with the Now he's with the
Philadelphia Eagles. But there is something too familiarity from within
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that makes a whole lot of sense if the they
feel like the offense wasn't the problem and the quarterback
doesn't want to learn new quarterback language. All right, it's Thursday.
We'd love to have fun on a Thursday. This is
definitely a Jason Stewart production. As we play a little,
don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
Don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Jay Stu, what's the year we're throwing it? Not throwing
it back to?
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here. And a
point of clarification, it might be a JSTU production. I
have one ear, so stuff like that is very It's
just an isold. Yeah, it's just concerning. And Sam knows this.
I've had many conversations to him about this. But anyways,
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where was I This is a Dan byer Idea JSTWO production.
Dan byer Idea. Now it's not what Dan had originally
thought of. So it's kind of like Dan is the
author of the book. I'm the director of the movie.
I've kind of taken his ideas and I've made it
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into this taking some Liberties for sure. Yeah, yeah, no doubt.
So today I want to go back to nineteen ninety four. Guys,
think about what you were doing in nineteen ninety four,
where you were, what you were watching, and more specifically,
what sports you were following. If you're saying to yourself
this week, have the Chiefs and Bills ever played for
the AFC Championship? The quick answer is yeah, three or
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four years ago they did.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
But no.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
In nineteen ninety four, Joe Montana faced Jim Kelly in
the AFC title game. Marv Levy faced Marty Schottenheimer. You
see how this is. It goes full circle. It's a
circle of life. That's gonna be the theme of the segment,
Circle of Life. Marty Schottenheimer coached against Marv Levy. No
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shocker here, Joe Montana got hurt and Dan Byer's own
Dave Craig finished the game for the Chiefs, which is
interesting now. Of course, the Bills were on their way
to what their their third of four straight, to get
their butts kicked by the Cowboys, who won their what
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third or second in four years?
Speaker 4 (12:56):
EMMITTT.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Smith was the MVP that season. But nineteen ninety four
AFC Title Game, Chiefs against the Bills. The Bills ran
over the Chiefs to go to the Super Bowl. What
else sticks out from nineteen ninety four, Dan.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
Well, here's the interesting portion of that, because that game
that you're talking about, as we've talked about many times
on this show, came from the nineteen ninety three season, correct, right, yep, right,
Because in the nineteen ninety four NFL season, and I
know Doug will know this, it was the seventy fifth
anniversary of the NFL, and that's when the NFL said,
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you know what we're gonna do, throwback uniforms, or we're
gonna do We're.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Gonna call them a throwback reforms, call them a throwback.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
The forty nine Ers ended up because they won the
Super Bowl the next year, but their throwback uniforms were
ones that they wore throughout the season with Dean Sanders
in that forty nine Ers uniform. The uniforms all had
a diamond patch on them that had a seventy five
on them. So that's what I remember from the NFL
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at nineteen ninety four wasn't necessarily the AFC Championship game,
but it's what happened the following season in the seventy
fifth anniversary of the league.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
And didn't the Niners sign Deon Sanders from the Falcons
in ninety four? And didn't he also play for the Giants?
Or am I getting my years confused?
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Uh? Fact check me on that sat.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Den dn went Falcons Niners to the Cowboys, but he
was only with the Niners for one year?
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
And I think that was it right at the ninety
four season.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
In nineteen ninety Yeah, let me just double check here
as I'm toggling between both of them. Anybody else feel
free to say.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Well, okay, I guess the nineteen ninety four step. It
was the first year that the Bulls played without Michael Jordan, right.
It was the year in which Scottie Pippen refused to
go in the game when they were taking on the
New York Knicks in the playoffs with a second left
to go in a playoff game in a series they
ultimately lost, and Tony Kukoach, who the play was designed for,
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calmly came in and knocked down the game winning shot.
It was a huge year team Elaijuan was the MVP
as the Houston Rockets took down the Orlando Magic Orlando
Magic to win an NBA title. Remember the Orlando Magic
had a lead in Game one at home, Nick Anderson
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missed four straight free throws. He was never the same
as a free throw shooter, and Orlando was never the
same as a franchise.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Now I'm officially confused. Nineteen ninety four was the oj chase, right,
the chase with Yes and the Knicks were playing.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
The Rockets as a Knicks was the Knicks?
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Knicks were playing the Rockets.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
You're right, Yeah, I'm wrong. The Magic was the next year.
I guess right, because the next year the Magic beat
the Bulls when Jordan returned, Yes, shortly before the playoffs. Okay,
so I was right about the Rockets. I was right
about the Bulls, was wrong about the Magic.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
And Ojy's chase through the NBA Finals was like one
of the signature moments of the decade.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Right, Yeah, it was at Game two or Game three,
I don't know. I can actually tell you here. I
don't know in Game three or four, because the Rockets
had more wins than the next.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
I was on a week long what they call Badger
boys state boys state, you know, put on by the
American legions across this country. I was at boy State
for that week and in our dorm they did not
have televisions, so I did not see anything of the Knicks, Rockets,
did not know what was happening. They would give us
a news update every day before breakfast. But in what
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it seems to be the craziest time in television history
of my generation, it's the one week that I didn't
have a TV and if you know me, like I
live by TV, it was Yeah, it's a huge, huge
gap in my lifetimeline.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
By the way, I just saw that Netflix is doing
the OJ documentary and it's like that one. The ESPN
documentary on OJ is like one of the most comprehensive,
well done documentary of our time. Like what could Netflix
possibly do other than at the end be like, yeah,
he died.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Another one in nineteen ninety four, guys at the Final four.
I know Doug Away in on this. The Arkansas Razorbacks
cut down the nets in Charlotte.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Charlotte, Charlotte, North Carolina. I sat a couple of rows
back from a couple rows forward from President Bill Clinton,
of course, the biggest Arkansas Razorback fan, and was in
office at the time. Can I try the final four teams?
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Yes, you can?
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I know, Okay in Charlotte, Florida, was there?
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Would to meet Hook Andrew de Clerk Andrew de Clerk
and to meet Hook?
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Want to one that? I thought?
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Really?
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:04):
And there was it.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Duke in Arizona, Yes, David Stotdamayer, Khalid Reeves and then
Arizona team and the Grant Hill led Duke Blue Devils
pretty good.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Nineteen ninety four college football college football, we remember Nebraska
was a national champion. They beat Miami in the Orange
Bowl twenty four to seventeen. Penn State beat Oregon in
the Rose Bowl. Penn State end up finishing undefeated, but
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was not a national champion. Correct.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
Yeah, that's the Kerry Collins Kajohna Carter Kyle Brady squad
and beat Ohio State sixty three to fourteen that year.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
It's not good, not good at all. Joey Galloway's gonna
tear them up.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Not so much.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah. The brask Cornhusters had Lawrence Phillips as the running
back right seventeen hundred yards. Lawrence Phillips, famous for most
of his off the field activities, more so than on
the field activities, and I think and their quarterback was
Tommy Fraser, who is talking about a college superstar. I
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give you Tommy Fraser.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
I think we're also missing the lead on the year
of nineteen ninety four that we can all agree belong
to Nick Price, who won two of the four majors
that year in golf, taking home the Open Championship at
Turnberry and then coming back and winning the PGA at
Southern Hills. It was jose Maria Olathabel winning the first
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of his two Masters in nineteen ninety four. Ernie Els
won the US Open at Oakmont in a Monday playoff.
What is maybe most notably known of the stars of today,
Tiger Woods won his first US Amateur. Maybe most well,
they were all kind of popular, but he was down
six holes to Trip Keeney at TPC Sawgrass and rallied
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and it was the first real fist pump that we
saw of Tiger on a national stage when he sunk
the pot on the Island green An on seventeen.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Hey, do you guys want to hear about the nineteen
ninety four MLB playoffs and World Series?
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Yes? I got all day, Doug.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Okay and that's the recap of the nineteen ninety four
playoffs and World Series. That's because that was the strike
yere right, that's the famous year where the Montreal Expos
might have actually broken through one a World Series. Only
we will never know. We will never know.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
The Expos with Pedro Martinez, John Wetland, a young Vladimir Guerrero,
Larry Walker, just Marky's Grissom, just filled with studs, just studs.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
Here's here's a misconception. I think that sometimes when we
get our timeline happening, though, I think people feel that
the Expos then moved soon after that, it was another
decade that they were still in Montreal and then finally
ended up leaving.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Well, think about this roster, kay, You had Cliff Floyd,
Mike Lansing, I got a lot of Mike Lancing cards,
a lot of a young twenty seven moisas Alou, Larry
Walker at twenty seven years old, right in his prime,
one bell like man. They had dudes. Then you go
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to the rotation Pedro you mentioned, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Were Delino Deshields and Marquis Grissom still on that team.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Then Marquis Chrissm was definitely on the team.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Was traded for Delino Deshields.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Okay, what a roster on paper, And of course they
were playing really well in first place before the season
came to it. There were seventy four and forty and
their manager was Felipe Alou.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
And I think that the maybe the player that got
jobbed the most. I think Tony gwyn was like approaching
four hundred when when they went on the strike.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
I think the.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Great The best news though, was that Tony Gwynn, when
they weren't playing in the playoffs and not playing baseball
for two months, had a lot of time to listen
to this song. This is I Saw the Sign by
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Asa Bass. It charted at number one for six weeks
on the Billboard Charts. Shocked to find out that this
was the number one song of the year given the
heavyweights that came right before it, right in Dan Byer's wheelhouse.
Maybe two of the greatest ballads of the nineteen nineties.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Still a buyer, dude, By.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
The way, I got your number. I got your numbers
for for Tony gwyn Tony Gwinn three ninety four, OBP
four fifty four. So he's on base almost forty six
percent of the time. He was hitting three ninety four
through one hundred and ten games. That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Matt Williams had a good year. Two was uh, I
swear the song you were gonna play was that I
thought I thought we had it.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I swear by All for One or I'll Make Love
to You by Boys to Men?
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Which do you prefer down?
Speaker 5 (23:31):
I prefer Boys to Ben because I felt All for
One was the knockoff of Boys to Men and I
was I was a.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Big Boys to Ben fan.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
I think it's truly my first concert that I saw
in an arena type venue.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I swear it was also John Michael Montgomery, but I
don't know if the Country one came out before the
All for One version.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Doug, What movies were people watching in nineteen ninety four?
Got to breathe a little bit.
Speaker 7 (23:58):
I got to to get this going here because the
men demanded it. The men here demanded this song.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Unbelievable year in movies, unbelievable year. Okay, I want you
to think about this. In all time comedies, I give
you Dumb and Dumber and Ace Ventura as well as
The Mask. Remember this is back when Jim Carrey was funny.
Speaker 7 (24:23):
He owned the nineties, and ninety four might have been
his biggest year. But man, what what a triple headed
monster there?
Speaker 1 (24:29):
In ninety four Disney movies, we have the Lion King,
also Sedna do we eat seem he just okay? In
adventure movies, we have speed Speed.
Speaker 7 (24:52):
Rightlease hot shot?
Speaker 4 (24:56):
I also have a drop of that where is it true?
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Lies true lie?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Pop quiz hot shot?
Speaker 1 (25:02):
In drama Legends of the Fall, Wow, what a cast
also known as Everybody Dies? And Brad Pitt's like peak hotness.
Like as a heterosexual male, I think I can say,
like Brad Pitt, he's amazing looking that.
Speaker 7 (25:17):
Movie, spiky blonde hair in the nineties and like a
little goatee.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
In really good movies but probably actually overrated when you
get to watching the movie Forrest Gump.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Oh love Forrest Gump.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Come on, I didn't say I didn't love it, but like,
let's not compare it, okay. In comparison, this is a
lot like each Row getting into the Hall of Fame
with who was It? C? C? Sabbathia and uh uh
and Billy Wagner right Forrest Gump or pulp fiction and
Shoshank Redemption right.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Forrest Gump.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Really good movie. Pulp fiction is one of the signature
move movies of maybe our live That's like Quentin Tarantino's
signature movie shosh Ink and shosh Ank Redemption is one
of on Anybody's ten Best Movies I've Ever Seen list.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
So you're saying that Forrest Gump's a distant bronze medal, Yes,
but a crowd pleaser for you know, families. I would
say that, yeah, because you wouldn't take you kids to Shashank.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Or pull Fiction.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I show my kids Shoshank.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
You will eat. Okay.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
I think I saw shash inc like shortly after it
came out, and I was like maybe ten years old, So.
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App at Dog Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. You know
what I was actually thinking, Here's what I was actually thinking,
and this is what we should put out on our
on our digital stuff. Did you know that there's a
portion of your brain that allows you to learn other languages,
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and I know there's all the different Rosetta Stone and
other software where people are learning new languages. Have you
guys ever tried that as adults? Dan, have you ever
tried that to learn different language as an adult?
Speaker 4 (27:23):
No? I have not considered it, but I have not
taken that, Steah.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
I think that's one of those. It's a lot like
a New Year's resolution, Like everybody's like, this year, I'm
going to learn to speak Italian. We're going to Italy
the summer, pabe, let's learn to speak Italian. And then
like you get to January fifteenth, you're like, yes, whatever,
it's fine and diamo, let's go. What about you?
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Jay s dou not as an adult.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
No.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
I did take Spanish between seventh and twelfth grade. The
final year of Spanish in high school, all we did
was talk Spanish to each other. The teacher never spoke English,
and we could never speak English. And I know about
three sentences of Spanish right now. I'm the same way
with German. I took German in high school and in college,
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and completely you.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Took German in high school. I guess you're in Wisconsin.
There's a big German and Polish population in Wisconsin. That's
amazing that they taught you German, Yes, the Germans. Yes,
you know what I think? What bout you, Sam? Sam?
You know any other languages?
Speaker 7 (28:26):
I did take Spanish in junior high and high school
and one semester of college. But yeah, and then I
did go to Spain in twenty eighteen and try to
bring some of it back into my memory. It was
a little choppy, made it through, but I haven't done
any Rosetta Stone or you know what are the other ones?
Are Gibberish or what was it? What's it called? There's
(28:47):
another one out there, babbyl babbel, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah, babbel, yeah, babble. Well when you when you babble,
it comes out as gibberish. Not that not that far
off there, not that far off. Brain is developed by
the time you're five years old, right, and a lot
of that comes with languages. You can overcome that wiring,
but it's not easy. And I bring it up because
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why would you hire Brian Schottenheimer? Well, why do you think? Right?
Do you remember the quote that we got from from
Dak Prescott? And again, Brian Schotteimer has not been higher.
But this is Clarence Hill saying that progressing towards a deal.
I respect Clarence. He's in the know if that's If
that's the case, it's like, why would you Well, remember
this is Dak Prescott who said, essentially, I want Mike
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McCarthy to be our coach. I think he's one of
those guys like, look, dude, I don't want to learn
a new language. I like this one. I don't want
to learn a new football language. I like this one,
or I like this offense. You guys fix the roster,
you guys fix the defense. I got the offense. Brian's fine.
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Brian's fine, And I think you do. You get to
a certain age you're like, yeah, I don't want to
learn a new language. I mean Aaron Rodgers and I
know it hasn't gone well in New York, but we
all like, why would he bring in an offensive coordinator
who because he doesn't want to learn a new language.
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He knows that his brain's already developed. If five years
is all it takes for a baby five years in
the NFL, you know the quarterback language that works for
you? You know, are you a McVeigh guy, are you a
Shanahan guy? Which is very similar but a lot of motion.
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Are you an Andy Reid guy in this particular case?
This offense that the that the Cowboys run, that's West
Coast and apparently that's the West Coast offensive. Guys like,
why don't want to change the verbage? I want if
I don't have to teach anybody how I want to
run my offense. Brian already knows. So I think that's
what this is about more than anything. It's familiarity with
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the quarterback. The quarterbacks familiarity and uh desire to run
the run that exact same offense. Which brings us to
Jade Daniels, who's having an unbelievable rookie year. Now. He's
playing with Cliff Kingsbury, right, Cliff Kingsbury is his offensive coordinator.
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They are working incredibly well together. I thought this was
a weird question that Jaden was asked earlier today.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
What would it mean to you if you were the
first rookie quarterback to take a team to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Now, I'm not even thinking that far. It will obviously
be a blessing, but you know, I'm just focused on,
you know, how can I be better day by day?
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Yeah? What would mean to you. I mean, he's just
he's going to give the kind of cliche answer. But
you have heard will say, well, you know, he could
be the first rookie quarterback to go to a super Bowl.
But he's not a rookie anymore because he's played the
whole year. Like what why do we say these things?
Do we want the world to hate us? Or are
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we just trying to like what are we trying to
do with that statement? Like he's a second year player
because he has this many reps. Like now it's still
his first playoffs. This is his first NFC Championship game.
He's playing against the Eagles. And they've all played in
this game. They've won this game, they've played in the
super Bowl. These are experiences they've had. He hasn't. He
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hasn't even at LSU when he won the Heisman Trophy.
He didn't play in the college ball playoff. This is
the first playoff football he's ever played. It's different, and
yet it went great indoors in Detroit with the other
quarterback turned the ball over. Be a little different this
weekend in Philly. So of the of the cliche sayings
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that I think most of us, you know yesterday, Dan,
you aren't here because you're taking care of your family.
We talked about at the midway things were over. I'm
over the idea of well, he's no longer a rookie
because he's played this much. Is he played an NFC
championship game before? Yes, he's played in Philadelphia before, but
never in the playoffs, and we all know that's just different.
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All right, let's welcome in. This is the Doug out
Leeb Show here on Foxsports Radio live fromthty rack dot
com studios. Daniel Jeremiah joins us. Of course, Move the
Sticks is his podcast. He's also the radio analyst for
the LA Chargers Network and we'll get ready for the
upcoming NFL Draft. You'll see him on the NFL Network. DJ,
thanks so much for taking time. Let's go to last weekend.
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How do you evaluate Lamar Jackson's performance, factoring in not
just the last drive, which was outstanding and the drop
from Mark Andrews, but also his own turnovers, which he
pointed out are as big a part of the loss
as anything.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Yeah, I mean, it wasn't a it wasn't a clean game,
and he had a chance to make up for it
and did his part to make up for it, but
I think he was he was right and saying, you know,
there's the mistakes at the end of the game on
Andrews's part, but he can't turn them all over early
in the game, which he did twice. And that was
not just the story of Lamar and the Ravens, It
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was a story of the whole weekend. I mean, the
difference between you know, winning and losing in every single
game was turnovers. All the teams that won and moved
on all had a clean sheet, and and those that
lost didn't protect the football.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yeah, they really didn't protect the football. They just did
not Mark Andrews, I mean, how do you had? I mean,
it's it's because he's such a talented stud tight end.
But the fumble then the drop. You know, there are
some that are picking out that, well, he hasn't met
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with the media yet. What do you think of Mark
answers who some are kind of handling with kid gloves
while social media is not.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
You know, I was on the I was on the
postgame desk at NFL Network and we kept waiting to
you know, everybody's producers and everyone as you know, how
it works you're you're on Twitter and we're getting sound
that we're using in the ninety minute post game, and
we kept hey as he spoke, yet as we have
anything from Mark Andrews, and so I think a lot
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of people were, you know, waiting to hear from him.
It's surprising because it's just it's unusual normally when you
have an impact on the game, positive or negative, it's
just part of the deal. You you know, you face
the music, for lack of a better phrase. So I
was a little taken aback and surprised by that. But
I've learned, Doug. I'm forty seven, So I like to
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think with being you know, having been around this for
twenty over twenty years now, it gives you a little
more perspective of have some grace, have some understanding. I
don't know what's going on with him. You know that
there could be other things that he's dealing with, and
and I've just learned that, you know, we can say, Okay,
I wish you would have talked, but I don't know
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what he's going through. So I have a hard time
going all out and uh and and pressing pressing him
really hard on not speaking.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Yeah, I'm I'm I'm sort of with you that with
you on that one for sure. Okay, let's let's get
to a couple of the of the other games. Another
one we talked about turnovers rams a bunch of turnovers, right,
and the Eagles survive. I guess the question becomes of
the Eagles still feel dysfunctional yet they're successful. How does
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that work?
Speaker 3 (36:37):
The Eagles are the most talented team in football, talented
enough where in a quarterback era they could I think
they have a legitimate shot, especially with uh what I
say this, knowing that Hurts is not healthy and had
not been playing great, that they have somehow massed enough
talent that they could carry a quarterback to a championship,
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which is darn near impossible in today's NFL. But they
don't really need him to do much. They don't. Their
offensive line is so dominant. It's like a nineties team,
you know, that can just run the ball down your
throat even when you know it's coming, because they're massive
and they're so gifted up front. And then defensively they're
really good. There's not a pure weakness there. They're good
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at all three levels. They have a really good defensive coordinator.
I would say that if Jalen Hurts played good, not great.
If he plays good, they're winning the Super Bowl. And
I still think they could win it with him being
average and maybe even a tick below. That's how talented
they are.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Wow, that's amazing. Okay, what do you make of I
know there's turnovers. Let's start with Ben Johnson wide receiver
pass in the fourth quarter gets intercepted. What do you
think of how he called the game?
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Well, it's still players, I mean on that one specifically. Yeah,
I mean, in hindsight, you probably like to have that back.
You're hoping you're going to dial it up. It's going
to be wide open. And maybe that's something as a
play caller when you send the play in, you know,
you send the play into the headset of golf. It's
you tag it with the reminder, Hey, if it's not there,
eat it. You know, just tell Jamison I if not there,
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eat it. But that's putting a lot on him, you know,
as someone who's not a pastor of football by nature.
So I think he took it. He took an aggressive
play call. They have been ultra ultra aggressive. They got
criticized for it last year and their exit against the
forty nine ers. That's just kind of the way that
they've done it. From Dan Campbell to Ben Johnson, they've
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just been very, very aggressive. But that would be the
one I think you'd like to have back. But outside
of that particular call that, you know, they Jarrett didn't
play great. You know, they didn't execute well, and that
was that was the reason why they were done. And
I just think so many injuries on defense eventually it
just caught up to him and playing him. If you're
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Detroit with their offensive line and their defense a little
bit beat up, this sounds crazy, but I almost I
bet you they would have rather played that game in
Washington than in Detroit. I mean, having Jayden Daniels on
a fast track in there, I mean they couldn't stop him.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Yeah, he's Wow, he's amazing as a rookie. I mean,
just unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Never see anything like it ever, No, not not, not
not like this. I mean we went over the list
of first year players, first year quarterbacks who had made
it to a conference championship game. Uh, you know, as rookies,
and you look at those guys and you think of
those teams and you know, It's like the Mark Sanchez,
you know Jets, Like that's one example, Like Mark Santez
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was not the driving force of that team as a
defensive team that could run the football, and he'd make
a couple of plays in the past game, you know,
Braylen Edwards, whoever they were throwing two back. Then this
team runs through jayde Daniels, like he is the main
actor here. He is not a supporting role. I've never
seen him, a rookie quarter back elevate everyone around him.
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You know, you look at their offensive line on paper,
very average. You know, mclaurin's a stud. But you know
Erg is on his you know, everybody's thought he was done,
but turns out he's got a little bit left. He's
not the supporting cast that is not spectacular, and he's
elevated all of them.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
How much is Cliff responsible for that?
Speaker 3 (40:22):
I give him a lot of credit. I mean, I
think it's them working together. It's it's creative without you know,
being super complex. And not that Jaden couldn't handle complexity,
but just as a young player, he just he's made
some things defined for him, which is has been helpful.
But I still the vast majority of it goes to
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Jaden himself, uh, and what he's doing and seeing the field,
fat making good decisions and then and then having the
explosive element with both his arm and his legs. It's
it's pretty awesome. Man. I don't uh, I don't think
Philadelphia is excited to see him come into town.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Help me out with this one. How Look, you've been
on the Chargers broadcast, and I know that everybody in
the AFC West feels like Can't City gets with murder
in terms of holding when they play at home. But
how uh, how do you feel about the officiating in
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regards to the Houston game this past weekend.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Well, I come at it from stars get calls in
every sport, So that's you know, that's just is what
it is. You're gonna you know, Pat is going to
if it's close, Mahomes is going to get calls. Now,
I've you know, and look, I even I might even
tweet something out when it happened. But he's kind of
mastered the you know, bait bait guys into calls and
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flopping and all that stuff, which I don't really care for.
But he's getting the calls, so he's going to keep
doing it because it's been rewarded. My issue, more so
than that, which is happening once a game, maybe maybe
sometimes twice in a game, is the holding situation. And
some of those numbers got posted about just the lack
of holding calls on them. I see a lot of
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that team twice a year doing the Charger games, and
they're very I mean they're they're the best team in
the NFL. They have been, but many that holding bothers me.
The lack of holding calls bothered me more even than
the mahomes, you know, tight roping on the sideline and
taking a fall.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Yeah, I completely agree with you. Okay, help me out
with this upcoming weekend. Let's start with Washington have to
go into Philadelphia, place they have played before, a defense
that he's seen twice before. What are your thoughts on
that match up to go to the Super Bowl to
the NFC.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
Well, I think that you know, to the first game,
he didn't play great against Philly through the first three quarters.
I think they had fourteen points, and then he unlocked
it and went off in the fourth quarter where they
scored thirty whatever, thirty five thirty six points ended up
winning that game. Touchdowns, So I think he's gonna have
a lot of confidence going up against this group. Cosmi
getting hurt, I don't think helps matters, you know. To me,
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Philadelphia is the better team. I think the you know,
being cold and outside, I think benefits Philly and sa
Quon Barkley and their style will play a little bit
more than it benefits Washington. So I think Philly ends
up winning this game. I could see Washington put a
scare into them, but uh yeah, I don't think they're
going to be able to block Philly's defensive lines.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Okay, let's go to the AFC. Is this the year
for the Bills? How did how do they match up
this time around on the road in Kansas City?
Speaker 3 (43:38):
Yeah, just get it. If you're the Bills, get you
have to get on them early and kind of put
it away. You don't want this thing coming down to
the end with Mahomes having a chance to finish you
as he's done time and time again. So I picked Buffalo,
But I'll be honest with you anytime I ever picked
against the Chiefs, whether it's Week three or the Super Bowl,
I don't have a high level of confidence just because
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of how they are able to seemingly just do whatever
it takes to find their way to a win. But
you know, I just felt like Josh Allen being healthy
and fresh, that this could be. You know, he had
twelve carries in the first game. I could see this
being a Josh Allen like fourteen fifteen sixteen carry, just
whatever you got to do to get out of there
with the win and do they I picked them to win.
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I picked Buffalo to win. But again I've never I've
never picked the Chiefs to lose and felt good about it.
I can tell you that.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
I hear you, brother, I hear you. Last thing. Number
one quarterback prospect in this year's NFL drop. I know
you're just now diving in where are you as of now?
Speaker 3 (44:35):
As of right now, I have cam Ward. He's got
just a ton of ability. He's played a lot of football.
He can make, you know, big time throws, you can
really drive the football. He gets a little bit loose
at times, so you got to live with some of that.
I don't think. I think we kind of learned last year.
Trying to coach that out of a player like a
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Caleb Williams is probably you're probably better off just embracing
it as opposed to trying to newdram So I think
it'll be important of where he goes. But I don't
have any quarterback in this class higher than the top
guys we had in the first round last year, to
the point where I think JJ McCarthy would have been
the first pick in this year's draft. So I would
take Abdol Carter with the first pick and I would
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not look back.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
He's the one and only. Daniel Jeremiah moved the sticks
as the podcast. You'll see him on the NFL Network. DJ,
You're the best man. Thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
Thanks Buddy Goo, Luck Doug.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
I don't know if you saw this, Jay stew or
Dan from Mark Andrews. It's impossible to adequately express how
I feel. I'm absolutely gutted by what happened on Sunday.
I'm devastated for my teammates, my coaches, and Ravens fans.
I pour every ounce by being into playing at the
highest level possible because I love my team the game
of football like nothing else. This is why it's taken
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me until now to collect my thoughts and address this publicly.
Even though the shock and disappointment are unlike anything I
felt before. I refuse to let that situation to find me,
and I promise that this adversity will only make me
stronger and fewel us moving forward. I think everyone who
has shown me in our team gratitude and support these
past several days. Despite the negativity, I've seen heartfelt love
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and encouragement from those who generously donated to the Breakthrough
T one D organization. Even the moments seemed darkest perspective
can reveal there's still a lot of light in this world. Now,
I'm going to do my part to bounce back and
contribute to it. Where you go, Yeah, my reaction is
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is that it's the perfect response. Perfect And as somebody
who I've always been in kind of the public spotlight,
you know, Look, I've seen negativity before, for you know,
and it's something you say on TV, something you say
on radio, something you say in print or whatever, or
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a tweet. I've never experienced anything like this with my
young basketball team and struggling to win. And it's really
interesting on how people just like to pounce on you
when things don't go well, like, hey, it's not easy.
Here's Mark Andrews, the guy who's accomplished great things in
the NFL. He fumbled one ball and dropped another. That's
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all he did wrong. And you watch social media like, oh,
this is crazy crazy, Go ahead, Dan, I know you well.
Speaker 5 (47:25):
I'm glad that you said that, because that's what I
actually think is the amazing part of this, because it's
not the first time, and it's not the second time,
and it's been many times. Is just what the Buffalo
Bills fans and the Bills mafia does in these situations.
I mean, they've raised almost one hundred thousand dollars for
his for his charity. They did it with Andy Dalton
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in terms of when Dalton was with the Bengals, and
they beat the Ravens so the Bills could get into
the postseason, like time and time again, we talk about
we talk about fan base is and you know how
Philadelphia is awful, and we have the video recently and
we laugh at Bill's Mafia and we laugh at the
things that they throw on the field and what they
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do in tailgates. But to like the the whole story
to me is they just raised one hundred thousand dollars
for his charity. Like it's it's amazing to me. I'm
glad you had the statement, and I think probably the
Bill's Mafia's work in doing it was the reason why
we got it now. But yeah, it's just it's crazy
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to see on how that fan base just rallies together
and does the right thing.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
Yeah. No, I think it's great. I think Look, here's
what I here's what I know. I know that people
in the real world. I've always known this that that that.
It's like in politics, the fringe makes up most of
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the people tweeting and most of the people most people
in the middle stay out of it. It's the same
thing with sports commentary. It's it's like how much of
an A hole can I be? It's like a challenge,
like how much of an A hole can I be? Oh?
(49:19):
You think that was an ale? Wait, I'm gonna it's
like a top or of I'm going to try and
be as terrible to somebody as humanly possible in an
effort to get noticed. And I'll just tell you, like
in my situation, you get somebody who's like, yeah, no,
I don't know how to do it, And so you know,
I don't read messages. I get ones that are funny
(49:42):
or I think just over the top cent to me,
So a lot of my dms, i'd be like, hey,
come to practice, here's the time in data practice. Come watch.
It's okay. You think we don't know what we're doing,
It's okay, feel free and they either back down, you know, hey,
I was just you know, or you don't hear from
ghost crickets and I just I think that Mark Andrews
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post on social media is perfect because most of the
ridiculous commentary is from social media, whereas the rest of
us are like, that sucks. Stud dude fumbles the ball.
Stud dude drops the ball on a two point conversion,
falling down the back on the side of the end zone.
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Not much I can do there, but it look if
you consistently do this in big moments, well then by
all means you go like, hey, the guy's a choker,
can't throw it to me, but he's a guy who
can always count. That's why it's actually more surprising, isn't
a dan? I mean, because he's a guy, Like, there's
one guy who's not going to drop this thing in
the snow, It's going to be Mark Andrew. So it
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just shows with all those people donate on that money,
how much good there is in the world way more
than you see on social media. Way way way way
way way way more