THE BEST OF THE DOUG GOTTLIEB SHOW

Dan and Aaron in for Doug as they talk about all of the headlines around the NCAA Tournament as it has tipped off, and some of the unwritten rules and office decorum around pool brackets. 

Dan and Aaron talk about Duke basketball as their all-american Cooper Flagg looks to be playing in round one.

In this version of "Don't Call It A Throwback, Thursday" Aaron and Dan and the crew profile 1995. 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
It's not deja vu all over again, but I'm telling
you it's great. It's my sports Christmas Day. Welcome in.
The first round of the NCAA Tournament is underway. We've
already got drama. Everything you thought you knew about college
basketball that you learned Eronterrez over these last five days

(00:42):
completely out the window now that the ball is tipps
and games are underway. Yeah, I know that.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
I literally came on the airwaves a week ago, right
around this time and said Thursday of Championship Week is
my favorite week, favorite day on the sports calendar. And
I still think that's true. There is something special, though,
there's something special to wherever you live in the continental
the United States. If you're one of it, in one

(01:09):
of the lower forty eight, at some point you're waking
up and there is not basketball on and it just
becomes that countdown to how soon till these freaking games start. Now,
if you're on the East coast, it's a little bit
longer than some of us on the West coast. If
you sleep in a little bit, that's fine, But man,
oh man, oh man, it's special. It's such a fun.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Day and uh little, you know, a lot a lot
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the sports Christmas Day. The reason that I chose that

(01:51):
chose it last week was because I would love, love
to have picked the Masters. But every single day day
of the Masters I love, and in fact, the final
day is actually bittersweet because it's gonna be over with
and you're not gonna have it. And I kind of
feel that way on late Sunday. I even feel that
way on late Friday of the first round, when we
know that more than half of the NC doublea tournament

(02:12):
has been played, but there is something about walking in
and I'm telling you, I'm Mike North jacked up about
it like I am, like I am jacked up about it.
And I've already got one team out of my survivor pool.
Oh No. And the reason being, Aaron Torre is because
all I heard over the last five days was I

(02:33):
can't believe Louisville is an eight seed. Greg McDermott actually
said it himself. What is going on? In fact, I
saw tweet after tweet, graphic after graphic the eight seeds
are actually better than the five seeds in this NC
DOUBLEA tournament. What in the world is the committee doing? Well?

(02:54):
Louisville gets to play the first game of the day,
an hour and fifteen minutes away from their home base,
and they get dominated by Creighton. So all of our
Louisville talk that we had over the last few days
has gone out the window. By three o'clock Eastern time
on Thursday.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
You and I were on the bracket show on Sunday,
I was privileged enough to fill in for Kerrie Rhodes
and we announced bracket by bracket, region by region. The
first team Auburn, Okay they're the number one overall seed.
We weren't sure if that was going to happen, and
then boom, Louisville on the eight line. That was my
first reaction, and I think, you know, Louisville being misseeded

(03:35):
was part of it.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
But the idea of.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Auburn having to play in the second round in Lexington,
very likely against Louisville, that was my biggest takeaway from
that bracket reveal, you know, among the other things North
Carolina getting in all that, and so I only bring
it up because I feel like I'm eighty percent part
of that first Survivor Pool loss.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
I blame partly myself.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Now I don't know if I'm gonna pay you back
for the entry fee because I don't know if it
was one of these big crazy bracket.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
But this was a theme to me.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
How could you do that to Auburn the overall number
one seed? And now I don't want to say it
doesn't end up mattering because they're going to face a
really good Creighton team, but a Louisville team that got
a lot of oxygen both about their seeding but then
also about where they would be playing their opening and
we all presume second round games. Quite literally, the first
team out of the main bracket of sixty four.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
When someone is misseeded, everyone that's connected to that is penalized. Like,
let's be honest, Creighton wins today and dominates like they
started out, missed a couple of shots early, and then
once they got in rhythm, they never looked back, basically
keeping Louisville at arm's length for the entire second half.
So it really wasn't even close in the second half.

(04:48):
Wasn't a blowout, but at no point did you feel
that Creighton was going to be threatened. But it's the
fact of Creighton didn't deserve to play Louisville. Louisville probably
didn't deserve to play Creighton, and now as you have
Auburn sitting there, that's what everybody focused on. I'm not
making any excuses from Louisville, and I actually think the
talk of Louisville probably helped Creighton, no doubt in this

(05:11):
window and to be motivated, which is crazy to think
that you would actually be need motivation in an NCAA
tournament game. But let's be real, they took the crowd
out of it early with the motivation ended up being
on their side after they started knocking down shots and
Louisville couldn't defend the Blue Jays and Creighton's nailing threes

(05:32):
at the end of the half, and Creighton brought their
own contingent there. And all of the talk that we
had is now over again by three o'clock Eastern time
on Thursday, Which is funny because two of the days
of this week, between the selection show and the first four,
we're talked about North Carolina, Yes, and the conversation and

(05:53):
when Doug was in Doug's done in today. Doug was
in on the herd for Colin Cowherd earlier today. So
that's why you have Aaron and myself your live from
the tireq dot com studios. But the conversation is, it's
not about North Carolina validating their spot in the tournament.
You either have a resume to get in or you don't.
They were borderlined. There are a lot of borderline teams.
I think the thing that we forget is San Diego

(06:14):
State was probably a borderline team. That's why they were
playing in the first four. But now of everything we
heard about North Carolina, it has completely flipped Aaron to
the point where North Carolina is now favored against Ole
Miss tomorrow in their game in Milwaukee. So now this
narrative that you heard for the first two days about
North Carolina doesn't deserve to get in, they've they've only

(06:36):
done this, they haven't done this, and that that is
completely flipped from them being not being in the tournament
to now they're favored over a sixth seed in the
South Region.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
It's nuts, well, it is, and it is amazing how
quickly the narratives change. And with the North Carolina thing,
you know, I thought it was interesting even in real
time of like, you know, yes, they probably shouldn't have
been in, but part of the North Carolina conversation was
who they got in relative to who was left out.

(07:06):
You and I again were on air, nobody had West
Virginia not in the bracket, and as a matter of fact,
to take it a step further, it took us a second.
We were like, well, wait a second, now, if North
Carolina's in, if San Diego State is in, if Texas
the most losses ever for an at large candidate. Xavier
was very much on that in or out. I think

(07:26):
you picked up on Ohio State right away. But I
think the conversation became North Carolina, but then North Carolina
relative to some of the teams that got out, most
notably West Virginia. So it is interesting how quickly the
narratives changed, But it also shows you outside of what
we think are the top few teams, the margin is
very thin where North Carolina, and I think I've even
put it out on social media the other day is like, yeah,

(07:48):
North Carolina, probably based on the resume, did not get
deserved to get in. But the counter to that is
that even if they didn't deserve to get in, they
had won seven in a row going into the first
Duke game, almost beat him a second time without Cooper flag.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
It's not as though they were a nobody.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
It's just based on who got left out, they didn't
have much of a resume, So this should makes sense.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Well, we've got a lot in store for you over
the next two hours. We are going to be keeping
tabs on the games that are going on right now. Perdue.
You heard Isaac Lowenkron say at the top of the hour,
if you're just tuning in Perdue, I don't want to
say survives, but high Point made it interesting for a while,
and there was a point with about eight minutes to

(08:30):
go where High Point ends up making a run and
Purdue starts to feel it. Yep, no doubt and Brayden Smith,
all American for Purdue attacks the lane, comes up short
on a shot, misses now High Points. You know, within
a couple of points, he commits a bad foul. All
of the stuff with Purdue, like even you can make

(08:52):
it to an NCAA championship game the year before and
it doesn't matter obviously Zachidi's not there, different players there,
But there's also then the thought of, huh, here we
go with Purdue again shaking that stuff is real. I
felt that Purdue felt it at points today even though
they held off High Point in the end. But that's

(09:13):
what makes today so great. And we've got people in
our studio just like probably in your office building, that
are in and out talking about their bracket. Iowa Sam
is all about his teams. It's just a great, great
day for sports fans with the first round of the tournament.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
It is, and whether you're in a survivor pool, whether
you're in a bracket. I know it's the cliche thing
to talk about, but everybody has some degree of investment.
You know, you get your kids involved, to get your
wife involved, to get your husband involved, to get whatever.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
You don't have to be a sports fan.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
It's just it's really fun and it is amazing, like
you said, how quickly conversations can change. But then also
just even for the people like you and myself who
do like the sport a little bit more like you said,
you know, oh my goodness, here we go with Purdue again,
and then oh they win by a comfortable margin and
we're on to the next in the next game. So
it's just it really is, like I said to lead

(10:03):
the segment. I know I have said in the past
on these airwaves that the Thursday of Championship Week is
my favorite day. But there is a little bit of
a vibe and a juice in the air right now.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Jason Stewart's our executive producer, Iowa Sam our technical producer,
and I mentioned Isaac lowan cron is at the news desk.
I do have to ask Sam, because I started this
show telling you that in one of my Survivor entries,
I went with Louisville figure, let's if it's if it's
a coin flip, we're seeing a lot of love for Louisville,
So one gay man, if I've already got a survivorpool

(10:37):
Entry knocked out. All the while, I'm hearing this guy
pop in and out of the studio being like, all right, Creighton,
let's go Creighton. What are you? Are you just all heartland?
Do you have Creighton in the brackets where.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
I just I feel like, you know, you cling onto
a team like Creighton in the bracket You're like, I
like him in this game and then kind of snowballs
and you're like, you know in this matchup. I like
them too. I have them going. I think Elite eight.
I watched them play and like they're a good, solid
Big East team. I don't know if they're but I
also have I also have Saint John's going a long
way too. Okay, well I didn't, but no, but Crayton

(11:11):
I think I like because they made it right under McDermott.
They made it to the Late It a few years ago,
didn't they?

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yes, they did lost in a heartbreaker to San Diego State.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
So I think that they are a team now that
can they can Princeton the Sweet sixteen. I like Creighton.
I think there they are my Midwest Darlings. And at
the Iowa State Cyclones oll they lost, Uh, they lost
Gilbert right, Oh, so you're so only if they if they,
if they had their full roster, they'd be your squad.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
But yeah, this is part of the this is part
of the issue.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
This is I think that I have I can't remember
exactly how far I have the cyclones going, but not
as far as the Blue Jays.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
You had a segment all on some Fox Sports radio
called the Iowa Minute, and you would talk about all
things Iowa. It now seems to have expanded to eastern Nebraska.
Like if you're gonna bring Crayton in Omaha is like
right on the border of Iowa.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
And a lot of people that live in Iowa and
then work in Suha, Yes, and vice versa.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
I don't know if that gives you rights. We're not
calling you Nebraska, Sam. No, I do not ever want
to be known as Nebraska. Sam. Here's the ultimate question,
And Aaron, I don't know if this bothers you. I
know it bothers Jason Stewart and and it would bother
me when I find out the answer. In these bracket pools,
did you put any money down or are they just

(12:29):
like free ESPN, CBS Sports, Fox Sports Radio based pools.
Is there any of your cash into the to this pool.
I only did one bracket, one pool, and that is
the Fox Sports Radio inter office. Okay, so it costs
you zero, costs me zero. I'm already out fifty bucks. Okay,

(12:50):
so let's yeah, that's yeah, it's not it's not fun.
I just don't think that guy at your job deserves
breaking rights. Oh zero, Stewart, are you are you with
me on this? Like there's like to your point, like
there's no skin in the game for Sam.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
And And the thing about Sam, though, is the part
of the story that's even more aggravating is that you
can't fault him for not knowing that that you had
hard money on again that he's rooting against, but then
you told him you did, and then on the way
out the door, he's like, let's go Crichton. So that's
just realizing he has no sympathy.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
I have no sympathy.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
Everyone's got their rooting interests and everyone's got a different bracket.
So it's like, you know, winner Victor takes the spoils.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
But free rooting interest is a lot different. Than hard
earned mine.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
I am in this, I am in this this FSR
Interoffice Pool bracket for the glory and the competitiveness. And
I would say there's a lot at steak. I'd say
my dignity is at stake and my egos and this
is this is true, Aaron waded my ego. You're not
with us every day when we're here on the Doug
Gottlieb Show. But you want people to know that you

(13:59):
know college oops right, like that's and so like a
Creighton run will solidify that. I think we all do.
We all want our predictions to go right because of
what we've said. It's the amazing thing that I do
with the fantasy football. I do a fantasy football podcast
with Mike Harmon. Mike does our rankings each week, and
I'll throw tidbits out there, or I'll if somebody send

(14:20):
me something, Hey, who do you like to start? I'm
almost cheering for what I told someone morese than my
own deal. But if you don't have any skin in
the game, to lose it, Like I can understand where
Iowa Sam is coming from. I don't expect him to
not cheer for Creighton, but it's you know, it's just
it's a different battle that you're sitting here balancing.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
No, it's yeah, No, I think there's some way, not
just in what we do. There certainly is some you're
rooting for your picks, and you're rooting for your beliefs,
but in a bracket pool, it is every man for
themselves survival. The fit is quite literally where it's like,
you know, Iowa, Sam's the perfect exam. Screw your Louisville Cardinals,

(15:01):
Dan Buyer, I'm rolling with my Jay's.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yeah, some guy lost two hundred dollars on a bet
because he took Louisville today like that. That happened everywhere
in lawsuits, tuxs to be him. Yeah, Jason Stewart.

Speaker 5 (15:10):
I think I've been on record of saying this, but
I think it's unfair that someone like Aaron Torres, who
makes his living doing this, has to post like a
bracket because you're basically putting your credibility out there for
the most unpredictable thing the history of mankind, and you're
judged on it. I think that's unfair. But I will
say this, that makes three of you, and I don't
know where Isaac is on this. Three of you have

(15:32):
now admitted that you think that your college hoops credibility
is on the line. I think I represent the other,
like ninety five percent of the country. I fill out
the brackets to add interest. In other words, I'm a
buying interest in the games as opposed to trying to
put something out there and improve everyone that I know
what I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
And that is funny.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
And I know that, you know, responsible gambling is a
serious thing. But like my wife, Oh, bring it to Vegas. Hey,
I don't like casinos, and it's like five dollars on
a bracket. She becomes the biggest SIU Edwardsville fan that
you've ever met in your entire life.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, you're at their team shop ordering games. Exactly. There's
Edwardsville anywhere. I know. It's in southern Illinois. It's about
all I know.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
They screwed me in twenty four That's what I remember
about that school.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah. So just an absolute great day. By the way,
can I jump in on one thing really quick? Feel free, Jason.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
I tell you this every year because I'm lucky enough
to fill in this time slot every year. I actually
don't really care that it is a total crap shoot now,
to be fair, I am the ragining Fox Sports Radio
co champ, along with Chris Plank his sooners in my
Huskies will decide things once and for all tomorrow. But
what I have decided though, I don't care about my

(16:48):
credibility being on the line. But the one thing I
have decided, and Dan will appreciate this. I am not
the media guy, and I refuse to be the media
guy that fills out the bracket in real time on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
That's what I hate.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
The guy that's like, yeah, yeah, I mean the bracket
isn't we haven't even gotten the fourth region. I mean
it's Florida over Purdue obviously, I mean, what are we
even talking about? So I do wait until about Wednesday.
I think this year I had the nice built in
well Cooper flag. We gotta we gotta wait on his
status before I could. But that is one thing I
don't care about. If my picks suck and you make
fun of me, but I'm not gonna My picks aren't

(17:23):
gonna suck because I got peer pressured into filling out
a bracket at six forty eight on Sunday rather than
waiting till the dust settles on.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Twodays told Aaron in the first hour of our selection
show on Sunday, before the brackets were out, that it's
gonna be hard pressed for me to pick Florida or
to not pick Florida as my national champion. This on
the heels of a conversation that Iowa, Sam and I
had about a week or two ago, in Sam said,
I think Sam was right on this, like, man, everybody's
just gonna pick Auburn and Duke, like in the brackt
this couple of weeks ago. It's before Auburn ended up

(17:52):
going on their slide, and I think that that was
that was absolutely fair. We got done with our I
don't know, with a show at about five o'clock local time,
and Aaron shows me a tweet that says every ESPN
analyst picked Florida to win us all. I did not
pick Florida. I said it on the show like an
hour before the bracket when nothing changed and I was
ready to pick Florida. I see four talking heads to it.

(18:15):
I moved off of them. So two things on that one.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
And I think this is where the credibility comes in
of Like, I just think that it's interesting that that
then becomes part of the straight Well, everybody's picking Florida,
but it's interesting I picked Houston. So I'm not saying
that it's gonna be right or wrong, but I picked
Houston win the National championship. But part of it was
for the exact reason that you and Iowa Sam just
said is that for like eighty percent of the season,

(18:41):
it was just like it's auburns year. Everybody's playing for
second place, you know whatever. Then there's been like this
two week window where it's like, oh my god, Duke's
so good. Then you add Florida on Selection Sunday, and
it's like Houston won the Big Twelve went.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Nineteen and one, and never at any.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Point did we talk about them in the manner that
we talk about these teams. So the only point I'm
trying to make is not what pick is right and wrong,
just how interesting the narratives can flip. And Florida's the
perfect example of how many people really liked it. But
the other thing I was gonna say too is this
is also why and I'm not trying to be that guy.
And if you guys ever have me as a guest
on any of these shows in late February early March.

(19:17):
Everybody always wants to well, you know, I mean Tori,
I mean, who's the thirteen the thirteen ish type seed,
And I'm like, I need to see a bracket, right
because you could love McNee state, who's about the tip
off against Clems, and then you see their draw and
you're like, oh, that's a really tough matchup for them,
or the opposite can be true even of the higher
seeds of like there were times this year I'm watching
Saint John's I'm like, I don't care who's in their bracket.

(19:39):
I'm putting them in the final four. And then you see, oh,
they'd have to go through Florida. Oh, Cali Perry. For
all the criticism is kind of owned Patino. So anyway,
it makes for a lot of fun conversations.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
And the conversation is going to continue over the next
couple of hours. We will not shy away from telling
you scores of games as they're going on. The only
reason we haven't done it here in the first twenty
minutes because Auburn's out early against Alabama State and Wisconsin's
putting the finishing touches on a win against Montana. Whether
they're up by seventeen, and the Houston team you just

(20:09):
referenced is doubling up SIU Edwardsville right now early in
the second half. So those games already been close. But
as games do take place over these next two hours,
when close affairs happen, we'll be telling you throughout. Isaac
Lowincron's at the news desk going to be giving us
all the info that he has. It is a great
day to be with you, and we're just happy that

(20:30):
you're with us. So if you can't get to a
place to listen to a game or watch a game,
hang out with us. We want you here live withthetirerec
dot Com Studios.

Speaker 6 (20:38):
This is the best of the DOUN dot lead show
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Speaker 2 (20:45):
Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. He's erin Torrez. I'm
Dan Byer sitting in for Doug on this Thursday, first
round on the NCAA Tournament. Duke will take on Mount
Saint Mary's tomorrow and first round play in Raleigh. They'll
be playing around this time tomorrow, and we expect to
see Cooper Flagg, who's been cleared to play for Duke

(21:07):
after suffering that injury in the ACC tournament forced him
to miss the semis and finals. The Duke Star playing
tomorrow in a one sixteen matchup Aaron Torres. Maybe this
is a little bit more controversial than it appears at
the surface. I don't think it's controversial, I am. I
was just trying to set you out. Okay, Yeah, that's all.

(21:28):
That's all.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Aeron Torres goes in on john Shire next. No, let
me ask you, on a scale of one to ten,
how surprised are you? And I'll just I know, I
just asked you a question, but I'll give a quick synopsis.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Why don't we just volley questions back and forth and
not answer anything? No Cooper Flag. We sure he's going
number one. Here's here's here's my thought on this number one.
I am shocked that we didn't have any Cooper Flag
should sit out the tournament takes. I thought the nil world,
it's harder to like. I think that's fair, yes, absolutely,
but I just it feels like that was prime for

(22:05):
this week because people don't watch college basketball, but they
need a take, So why not have it about the
most popular or player in the game and the most
popular team in the game. And that did not happen
this week. So, by the way, kudos to all of you.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
I will say really quick, I was actually surprised we
didn't get more of the why was Cooper Flag playing
in the conference tournament?

Speaker 2 (22:26):
They've already locked up the number one.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
See that take, I was you know, that take was
like an elon spacecraft that I was ready for takeoff
and it never really took off.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
I didn't take off. I don't think you play Cooper
Flag if there's any hesitation, sure, and I think what
Duke says is there's no hesitation, and you can't afford
any rust, even if it's only been a week without
playing with him, like you can't afford that Mississippi State
or Baylor, whoever's going to play. I know Duke was
dominant in the ACC, but you get to that second

(22:58):
round game and it's going to be a different story.
And I think that Cooper Flagg making his return at
that point you risk the team maybe not being on
all cylinders or maybe getting used to playing without him.
So now it takes an adjustment period. So if you
can adjust in this one sixteen game, maybe he doesn't
play thirty eight minutes, maybe he only plays twenty three minutes.

(23:18):
But I think that's the reason why you play Cooper
flag tomorrow against Mount Saint Mary.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
And that's what I'm interested interested in. I assume he starts.
I assume you want to get him back in a rhythm.
But if he averages, say hypothetically, I don't have the
stats in front of me, thirty two minutes, does that
become twenty two minutes really quick? Because I am surprised,
because you know, we'll do we'll do the caveat that
we always have to do.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
We're not doctors.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
But you know, that's not the kind of injury like
like there are certain injuries like you, uh, I don't know,
you put you you know, you pop your shoulder out
of your socket, like you pop it back in, you
miss a game, whatever. That's not like the kind of
injury that happens time over time, where like as with
an ankle, it does feel like if you're already less
than one hundred and it's a very easy injury to reinjure.

(24:04):
But I'll also say, you know, I do think that
there is I was a little bit surprised that they're
playing him, but I do think the counter is exactly
what you just said is if you don't play him,
if they somehow were to lose in the second round
and he goes, you know, two for twenty one or something,
then then the takes come of what I mean, you

(24:26):
really should have ramped him up during you know, you
had that sixteen games. So I guess it's a darned
if you do, darned if you don't. I have no
strong opinion, but I will say I am a little
bit surprised, and maybe part of that is a byproduct
you and I were on air, of course, right after
the injury happened. I think at the time we assumed
he was out for the ACC tournament, out for the opener,
which we knew would be in Raleigh at that point.

(24:48):
So I guess I'm surprised. But when you talk it out,
it maybe makes a little bit more I'll say.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
I'll also say this, we are coming from it as
you're a colle much basketball writer, analysts. The whole deal.
I follow sports, I talk sports, sports talk show host
is the definition of my profession. There is a difference
when you're an athlete and when you hear whether you

(25:16):
hear the Cruise on CBS or CBS Sports Network, or
anybody else. It comes down to if you play the game,
they'll tell you. If you're healthy enough to play, you're
gonna play. It's not about gutting it out like Duke
wouldn't have him gut it out. So for Duke to
okay him tells me a lot about where Cooper Flag
is and that he's able to play, that they want

(25:38):
to take care of him. But also as a player,
if you're ready to go, we aren't talking about, hey,
you could risk injury, you could do this, or what
could this mean? Taking my rust angle on it. It's
either you could play or you can't play. And I
think that Cooper Flag can probably play. And I don't
want to say they were noncommittal. John Shire in the

(25:59):
AC tournament after the injury on the Thursday set on
that he'd be a long shot for Friday, and then
he was ruled out on Saturday, but set optimistic and
we thought maybe that was going to be language for
the committee to deal with. But in the end, I
don't think it was as serious as we thought. So
him playing is just a player playing, and I think

(26:20):
it can only help Duke in the long run. Listen,
if he's susceptible the injury. Any step he takes on
the court could reaggravate the injury. It happened, gosh, I
think it happened earlier today Louisville or Ryan Smith ended up.
You know, he was banged up. He had to be
helped off. Those things happen. You try to gut it out.
I don't think that's Cooper flag situation.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Yeah, And I think probably a sign that we should
have taken that was that he was probably moving a
little faster than maybe we anticipated in the moment acc
semi finals and finals, the games, that he did not
play quick to jump off the bench to support a
teammate like it wasn't as though he's in a you know,
a full leg cast and you know, sitting there with

(27:02):
his leg elevated. You know, when something happened, when there
was a time out on the floor, he would get
up on his feet on his own. He would walk
to the huddle. He would do this, He would do that.
So probably a pretty good sign that ankle was probably
in a little bit better shape than we maybe gave
a credit for last Thursday, Friday, Saturday.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
All Right, he is Aaron Torres. I'm Dan Beyer. Let's
get you caught up to date to what's happening in
these games. BYU up twenty four to twenty two on VCU,
seven thirty to go until halftime. Auburn's keeping Alabama State
at Bay eleven fifty six to go. In that one,
Auburn's up eighteen fifty eight to forty and just getting underway.
McNeice up on Clemson thirty one to now fifteen. Is

(27:40):
the Tigers get an early bucket to start the second
half this game. And despite Jason McIntyre just tweeting that
nobody was talking about mcneise, I saw that one. I
think everybody was talking about McNeice. In fact, if you
picked Clemson, I think that was more of the upset.
I thought mcneise may have been distracted by the Will

(28:00):
Wade situation. Not that it was his fault, but that
that is. It's just it would be a natural thing
to do to find out that your head coach is
leaving for another job. I thought it could have that effect.
In fact, it's seemingly had the opposite effect.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
Yeah, let me let me defend will Wade first of all,
you know, because I got a lot of people reaching
out to me, like what do you think about it
coming out? And it's like, you know, a little inside
baseball here, But the story was broken by a bunch
of NC State beat writers. That it was broken by
a bunch of NC State beat writers. It was not
broken by a national outlet. It was not broken by

(28:42):
something local, you know, in Lake Charles, Louisiana or Louisiana area.
And it was clear that it got out because NC
State either wanted it out or somebody has loose lips there.
So anyone that's blaming will wade because it got out.
He had nothing to do with it. He clearly was
trying to keep it under wraps. By the way, I'll say,
I'll say this, just keep a little keep this in
your little back pocket.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Dan.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
I don't think it's one hundred percent that he's going
to NC State. I think they've maybe agreed in principle.
I don't think he signed anything. I think there was
a team that lost last night, Texas that is going
to have a coaching opening here soon, and I think
he would be a candidate there as well, and I
think that job would be more appealing. But I don't
think whether he ends up at mc state or not,
I don't think it's I want to make it clear,

(29:26):
and I'm not saying you said this at all, but
I did get a lot of this yet.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Well, I mean, how did it get out and why
why does it? Did he want it out?

Speaker 3 (29:31):
It's like, no, no, no, He clearly tried to duck it
at the press conferences and then it got out. As
far as the distraction stuff, all I'll say is I
thought it would be a little bit of a distraction too,
But I know Coach waited a little bit, and you know,
he's told me on the record, you know, the same
thing that he told the media yesterday, which is I
try to keep things one hundred with my players. You know,
if they have opportunities in the portal, I tell them,

(29:54):
you know, I help them get to their next spot.
But they also know that, you know, I'm looking for
other opportunities and my career. And so I still would
have expected a little distraction. But what he said yesterday
to the media is not him trying to play it
up for the cameras. He keeps kind of an open
Oh my god, he just one of their McNees guys
just threw a monster dunkdown.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Sorry, guy, No, that's I was just gonna say this.

Speaker 6 (30:17):
Well.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Wade even said that he spoke with the ad and said,
I've got I'll give you two years. So there's the
understanding there and if the players know it, there's nothing
wrong with it. In fact, one of the things in
sports that amazed me was when Brian Kelly left Cincinnati
for Notre Dame. Notre Dame at that point and maybe
still is today, the most coveted job in college athletics,

(30:39):
the head football gojent Notre Dame. Brian Kelly got offered
that job after taking Cincinnati to not one, but two
straight BCS balls, and people were mad at him in
Cincinnati for leaving. It's like, what do you want the
guy to do? Like, I'm sorry if he wasn't there
for your bowl game and he just led you to
two straight BCS Bowl games. I think it would be
the same thing if you McNeice with Will Wade is

(31:01):
and why the players are playing so well as they
know the deal. He knows the deal. Everybody was on
the same page. It's actually a really good sign and
a sign that it hasn't been a distraction for a
team that many people did pick as the possible upset
before this news broke.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
Yeah, and I'd say too in the portal nil world,
Like Dan Hurley said it the other day on sixty minutes.
You know, half my guys already have offers to go
in the portal. I think you know it'd be I
do think it'd be one thing if this was ten
years ago and this gets out and all the players know, Tarn,
I'm kind of stuck at McNee state or I'm gonna
have to sit out a year now for lack of

(31:40):
a better term. They're playing there for their next This
is an X, this is an audition for wherever they're
gonna go after McNeese, and it might be to go
for Will Wade. So they're all getting a raise off
of this game.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
I don't. I don't think they're sally a coach. Yeah,
I don't.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
I don't think they're sitting there, you know, counting the
zero's at the end of their new check just yet.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
But I do think there is something too.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
And this year, even if your coach is leaving, doesn't
mean you can't play for him, doesn't mean you have
to stay at McNees, doesn't mean you have to sit
out a year. You just kind of you reevaluate your
future after the season, just like Will Wade would or
anybody else would.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
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(32:32):
it will always pop up at the top of your screen.
McNeice now up twenty canzeg Us up thirteen to nothing
on Georgia three minutes in and that eight to nine
matchup BYU with a three point edge on VCU late
in the first half in Auburn up seventeen on Alabama State.

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Speaker 2 (32:57):
I wasn't sure what stayed of mind those cow boys
from McNeice would have knowing that their head coach is
going to be leaving for a new job. Apparently it's
the right state of mind. Aaron Torres McNeice in that
five to twelve matchup against Clemson giving it to the
Tigers right now? Can I share some thoughts on that?
Do we have a second? I know we got to
get to our Remember, we'll save it, We'll save it.

(33:20):
How about in twenty minutes we talk will Wade and
McNeese Cooper flag a go for Duke? And why why
West Virginia was done dirty? How about that by their
coach or by the committee or both. You'll find out, Yes,
you'll find out. As we are broadcasting live for the

(33:40):
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(34:03):
point lead over Alabama State, mcneise has extended their lead
to fifteen now against Clemson with six forty four to
go until halftime, so there's already one five to twelve
that we could see happen. I think mcneise was a
popular pick by many now looking to extend their lead,
maybe even to more than fifteen. We do.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
We did the cliche things off the top, with you know,
making fun of your own bracket, and you know, I
guess I'm not going undefeated, and you know I want
this team more than just just so I can look smart.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
I'm gonna be the guy that does the thing that
everybody hates.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
My first gut instinct when the bracket came out was
McNeese will win, and then I talked myself out of
it over the course of the week. Clemson's been there before,
a bunch of veterans. So Clemson right now has eight
points fourteen minutes into the game, Dan Byer. Fourteen minutes in,
we're at the six oh two of the first half.

(35:01):
Clemson has eight points.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
I don't know if this will rival Tate George from
the baseline for Yukon knocking off Clemson in the sweet sixteen.
This is not going to be good for Clemson basketball.
This holds especially for a team that made a run
to the Elite eight last year.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
By the way, I will say, I know North Carolina
one convincingly not a great start for the ACC. Louisville
loses in their own home state borders and Clemson.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
We'll see. We'll see if they We'll see if this
holds up. There's a lot of time left, so if
only they could rewind the clock. And it's something that
we do every Thursday on the Doug Gottlieb Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Let's throw it back.

Speaker 6 (35:38):
You don't call it a throwback Thursday.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Jason Stewart's the show's executive producer. IOA. Sam is here
as well in Isaac Low and Crown at the News TSK.
What year are we throwing it back to? Jason Stewart,
Thank you, Dan. I'll take it from here. Let's go
back thirty years.

Speaker 5 (35:56):
I want everybody listening here and all the crew here
at Fox Sports Radio to go back thirty years. Nineteen
ninety five. Aaron Torres informed us before the show he
turned ten, So do the math on that one March eighteenth.
So this week in nineteen ninety five, the most iconic

(36:16):
basketball player in the history of the game, who had
been retired for what eighteen months in quotes, retired as
he went and played some baseball and undid some gambling debt.
He came back with one written statement and two words,
I'm back. He joined a Bulls team that was pretty good.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
They went on a run.

Speaker 5 (36:41):
I think they lost in the conference semi finals to
the Magic. But when you think back to nineteen ninety five, Dan,
what goes through your mind when it comes to sports.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Well, immediately outside of sports, it is the year I
graduated high school, so like it's one of the years
in your mind that always that always popped up. Ninety
five was such a great year for college basketball, and
it ended up being a run that I know Isaac
Lohencron remembers very very well. With UCLA making their run

(37:14):
to the national championship. It was also peak Arkansas time.
And I had mentioned on the Doug Gottlieb Show earlier
this week that you know this Arkansas program that Jason's
going to be cheering against in the NCAA tournament. So
sad was this was prime Arkansas. This is coming off
of a national championship with big nasty Corlis Williamson, Scottie Thurman,

(37:35):
Corey Beck, just great names of that Arkansas squad, and
they ran it back and went back to the final four.
They got all they could handle. I saw him first
and second round games in nineteen ninety five when they
played in Austin, Texas, but they were able to advance
and then end up advancing to the Final four. But
it was it was peak Arkansas at that point, and

(37:58):
while Duke was still coming off their national championship a
couple of years ago, you'd be surprised at how close
the schools actually were because Arkansas beat Duke the year before.
But Arkansas was first and foremost on my mind when
it came to college basketball in nineteen ninety five. Really quickly.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
At some point, we're gonna need to do the full
itinerary of spring break trips that you took for regionals.
I know you went to Knoxville and you got Mono's
that's the big one. And then I now I know
about Austin, but I'm just intrigued because there's a lot
that I don't know about it.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
There's I got ninety two, ninety three, ninety six, and
ninety nine for you ninety seven, ninety eight, we didn't
do any trips, but at some point, some point, yeah,
maybe even during the break.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
Okay, all right, so ninety five, Yeah, it's funny, mister
college basketball. But my most vivid memory of ninety five,
first year of the Divisional round, first year of the
wild card because remember there was no MLB playoffs the
year before because of the strike. They come back and
this pesky little team called the Seattle Mariners wins the

(39:02):
Al West final day of the regular season, one game playoff.
And you remember, for a ten year old, this is
so confusing, So they play the season. Now they're playing
an extra game. Randy Johnson King Dome hair flailing in
the background, They go to the they go. I believe
they lost the first two at Yankee Stadium, but then
they rally. I've told the story before, but Ken grify

(39:23):
Junior was not only my favorite athlete. I believe during
that window when MJ retired from the NBA, he was
the most popular athlete in the world. And I could
be mistaken on this fact, but I believe the game
five comeback where a young Alex Rodriguez is telling Ken
Griffey Junior to slide I believe I was at a

(39:43):
Harford Whalers game and my mom taped it. I believe
it was a Saturday night, and I came back and
watched it because I loved Ken Griffy Junior and everybody
counted them out. And then on top of it, we're
we're in the northern part of Connecticut, so we hate
the Yankees.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
So the Yankees lose.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
My guy Griffy wins. I don't fully understand what's going
on or how it happened. There's no cell phones either,
so it's just you come back and my mom's still up, like,
you gotta see the end of this game.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
So the ninety five Alds.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
Mariners over Yankees, Randy Johnson coming in in relief. I mean,
there's so many very Oh you bring in starters to
be a reliever. Oh, you have a one game playoff
after the season. It was like there was just as
a ten year old, like my sports mind was blown.
There were so many things that happened that I had
never I didn't even know where possible in this big,
crazy world of sports.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
I am breaking it up on the YouTube page that
final at Bad As we speak on.

Speaker 5 (40:41):
Our previous episode, when you were filling in. You told
us you admitted to this. Oh yeah, that you wore
a ken Griffy jersey to school every day for a
school year? Is that nineteen ninety five.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
So it probably would have been ninety six.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
It probably would have been then the fall ninety five
ninety six school year.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
And this is a little complicated. I actually retold the
story with VJ.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Husky on Christmas Day because we were talking about best
and worst gifts. Worst gift, by the way, my sister
got me a bill to bear when I was eighteen
years old, which was kind of weird, but another conversation.
But no, first day of school, wear my jersey, Griffy
jersey with pride. Second day, I wear something else. Third day,
back to the griffy jersey. Fourth day, back to the
Griffy jersey. That Friday, probably back to the griffy jersey. Monday,

(41:26):
back to the Griffy jersey jersey the following Tuesday, week
two of school. My mom was like, I can't watch
this thing every day and you're not gonna be the
smelly kid, so you can wear it like one day
a week to school.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
That's basically it.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
So yeah, it was about it that Jersey had about
an eight It was like cal Ripkin for eight days.
Then unfortunately it had to go into semi retirement to
one day a week that year.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
So did you wear it for the class picture? Does it?
Or were you forced to not? I probably wasn't. Yeah, yeah, no,
no not.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
I couldn't have worn it for that picture would be
somewhere and I haven't seen it. So no, probably no
class picture for Griffy that year.

Speaker 7 (42:03):
Well, speaking of cal Ripkin, that's my memory from nineteen
ninety five. Take it to September sixth, and he breaks
Leu Garrig's record for consecutive games played with number two
Thoy one hundred and thirty one. And remember it was
on the heels of the damaging strike that canceled the
nineteen ninety four World Series. The ninety five season was

(42:24):
actually shortened because they didn't resolve the strike until, yeah,
the spring of ninety five. So not only does he
break the record, but in the same game against the Angels,
cal Ripken hits a home run in that game at
Camden Yards and I'm going to play you John Miller's
radio call, and his analyst was none of the then
the president of the United States at the time.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Bill Clinton was there.

Speaker 7 (42:48):
He was in the booth with John Miller as cal
Ripken came to the plate against the Angels on that night. Yes,
President Clinton, with the color analysts analysis he did.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
He did.

Speaker 7 (43:12):
One anecdote about that particular moment just before Bill Clinton
showed up in the booth to be with John Miller.
John Miller was like, you know what, I probably should
go to the bathroom so I you know, before the
President gets here. So he's trying to get back into
the booth and the Secret Service is like, uh, excuse me,
so what are you doing. Yeah, and somebody recognized him
and led him in. So that was just a great

(43:33):
night for baseball, considering all that had happened the previous
year plus.

Speaker 5 (43:36):
I really thought that that was a joke and there
was a punchline in there about Monica Lewinsky was in
the bathroom something like that.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
That would have been funny.

Speaker 7 (43:44):
Predated by about a year and a half.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Yeah, it was Sam nineteen ninety five. I was nine,
and that's all about I remember, I knew this one
was gonna this this you know, it was far back,
but we Sola said, that's the first year that he
really was in the sport. Yes, as the first year.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
I remember so when I was nine, Blank Slate saying,
if this was throwback to ninety four, I'd be in
the same boat as you.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
I will say this.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
Nineteen ninety five featured a song that was in a
very popular movie and it was a It was a
song by this.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Man, a Coolio. What a banger. I was just thinking,
I told you what I just found so rich about this.
So this is obviously a Stevie wonder sample. Shouldn't say obvious,
but it, Uh it was. But then Coolio got mad

(44:44):
at weird Al. I think I just told you guys
this story him having deja vu. He got mad at
weird Al for making amish paradise. It's like, it's son
of in your song, Coolio, it's Stevie Wonders. It's like,
I mean, what why are you getting mad at weird Al.

Speaker 5 (45:01):
But well, of course, in recent weeks, uh, Sam bumped
back with this and this is the most Doug Gottlieb
story ever on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Here Sam bumps
back with the Gangster's Paradise and Doug comes out of
the break. He's like, is James Edward almost Still Alive,

(45:22):
which is a typical Doug move. He confused the nineteen
nineties High School movie with Gangsters.

Speaker 4 (45:29):
Or gang Member, Dangerous Missy and and Deliver, and you know,
of course he that was a funny moment.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
But didn't TLC have a couple of hits that year?

Speaker 4 (45:41):
It was the year of TLC. This was number two
on the Billboard Hot one hundred.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
This is a good jem. I've always liked this song,
and I feel like the music video.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
I do remember the music video and it's like had
like CGI graphics and it's kind of ahead.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Of its time. They had cichii in there.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
Was it like a water They had like a like
a like a a computer generated waterfall or something.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
I could be wrong. Isaac's was prime. Isaac would know.

Speaker 5 (46:13):
This was this before or after a left eye burned
down Andrea Rise.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
New Year's going there.

Speaker 7 (46:18):
It was actually after that happened in nineteen ninety four.

Speaker 4 (46:21):
Yep, doesn't say yeah, wow, listen, TolC wasn't done. This
is a little bit more my my vibe, my flow.
This was number three on the Billboard Hot one hundred.
I like this one better than waterfalls. I will say,
I mean you had the second and the third songs

(46:43):
on the Billboard Hot one hundred that year. That's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
They were like at this like Gangster's Paradise was whatever,
but they were like had to be the most airplay
on MTV probably. Yeah, it was all over the place.
And I remember that summer. I remember even visiting a
friend of mine in Chicago and like Waterfalls just constantly
being played every hour on their top forty station. Can
I say really quick?

Speaker 3 (47:07):
Since it is mostly a sports segment, Dan, we didn't
get to do this topic a few weeks ago, but
I tweeted about the Bo Jackson football pads with the
baseball bat poster.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
As I said, to come up as a child in
the middle nineties, there was so much stuff that just
happened that you just thought was normal, Like, oh, the
best player in basketball is just going to try to
be a professional baseball player now, and that didn't seem weird. Because,
by the way, that's a great story too. We can
get to in a minute. Richie Saunders from did you

(47:40):
know this story?

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Yeah, yeah, little bit. I think it maybe we touched
up this week, but like it wasn't weird.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
Oh, the best player on the planet in basketball is
going to try to play Major League baseball because it
was on the heels of Bo Jackson and Dion Sanders,
and it was just such a wild time. Like I
just grew up in the nineties assuming that, Yeah, like
guys play professional football and baseball all the time. That happens,
and there was just a lot of weird stuff like
that in the mid nineties.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
That's all I do want to bring up back to
sports are a couple of things. Number one, McNeice is
up thirty one thirteen at the happiest, it's thirteen points oach.
Auburn's up on Alabama State as they start the second
half forty one thirty three VCU. And byus you heard
Aaron say, just get underway. Isaac. Was this town captivated

(48:25):
by UCLA in nineteen ninety five.

Speaker 7 (48:27):
It actually was. It actually was because of the Obanons
and they were expected to do really well. They were
expected to be a championship contender. And the taias Edney
coast to coast against Missouri that really galvanized thing. So
I remember the night of the National Championship game. There

(48:48):
were actually people celebrating in the streets of Westwood when
they won at the Old Kingdome. I think over Arkansas
and I think they got passed. Remember this guy Bryant,
Big Country.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Reeves, right. I feel like if Doug is listing in
the car, he's screaming at us right now because I
feel like this is this is like his year, Like
he's gonna be so mad that we did nineteen ninety
five today.

Speaker 5 (49:11):
But yes, and Jim Herrick was such a character too.
Jim Herrick was a character that he was. He was
a good guy to win in this town. I remember
that team only because I was doing an internship on
Little Santa Monica at Prime Ticket and Jim Herrick's son, Glenn,
was an associate producer. I was his intern, And then

(49:33):
all this stuff comes out a couple of years afterwards
about the uh about the payments and some kind of
a used car lotter or something. And Glenn Herrick, who
I worked with, was like mentioned in that investigation. Anyways,
full circle.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Well, the other TV that final four just North Carolina
with Rashid Wallace and Jerry Stackhouse just Oh Home at Home.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
Yes, I remember the remember Oklahoma State, I remember Arkansas. Yeah,
I've always wondered, since I've been in La Ucla basketball
has never really been a thing. I think Lonzo you
kind of got a taste of it, but by the
time people got into it, the team started to struggle
a little bit. And yeah, I remember in ninety five

(50:15):
from a distance feeling like, oh, this is a huge
deal in La.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
That six to eight run was great, yet a heartbreak
for so many because you go to three straight final fours,
but you don't cut down the nuts in any of them.
So you're just for Ucla fans, they're kind of caught
in the middle. Can I quick do my year in golf?
In nineteen ninety five, let's do it. Ben Crenshaw won
the Masters is longtime teacher Harvey Penick passed away earlier

(50:42):
that week. Crenshaw wins the Masters, breaks down crying. Corey
Paven wins the US Open at Shinnecock a great shot
on eighteen where Johnny Miller yells shot of his life,
so like Corey Pavin breaks through. Steve Alkington won the
PGA Riviera in a playoff, and in nineteen ninety five,

(51:04):
John Day won the British Open Open Championship at Saint
Andrews a Constantina Roca on in a playoff after Roca
made this unbelievable shot to berdie on eighteen after a
flubbed shot. But that's where John Day picked up major
number two real.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
Quick was ninety six the Greg Norman Masters where he
blew yes. Okay, because I do remember that that would
be in the window of me remembering sports, and I
just remember that being a huge story at the time
and another one that I was, I guess ten going
on eleven and probably didn't fully understand in the moment,
but I just remember that being like a huge story
in that moment for the you know, for that time.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Forty nine Ers won the Super Bowl in that January.
Then the Cowboys had their great season leading up to
their Super Bowl thirty season. That's don't call it a throwback.
Don't call it a throwback. Thursday