March 24, 2025 • 52 mins
On a Monday edition of the Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: As much as Doug hates to say he told you so, he told you so. He predicted a lot of chalk in the tournament because of NIL, and the Sweet 16 played out that way.
On this version of Love AND Hate Doug and the crew share what they loved most and hated most from the sports weekend.
Doug welcomes Houston head basketball coach Kelvin Sampson onto the show as his Coach's Cougars are in the Sweet 16 again.
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to get to. I'm going to promote something we don't
usually promote at the start of the show, but it's
really cool. We're gonna get into the NCAA tournament and
what happened this weekend in a moment, But Wyatt Hendrickson,
does that name ring a bell at all to any
of you? Jay stud Before I emailed you this morning
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to that, did you know anything about the White Hendrickson story.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I saw some noise on Twitter about a wrestler, but
I would not have put the two together.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
No, Sam Iowa guy right Iowa formerly the Iconic Space
for Wrestling. Did you know the White Hendrickson story before
he joined us today?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Be honest with you, I did not, So that was
the first hearing about it.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Very cool, Okay, cool. So I'll just promote this. Our
pod is called in the Bonus, so it's podcast only,
and I caught up with White Hendrickson. Just I'll pitch
you on the story real quick. What was missing in
the NCAA tournament? You had in the NCAA tournament? Like
what no wrestling was missing in basketball? Was in wrestling.
Wyatt Hendrickson is a second lieutenant in the Air Force.
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And because he had finished four years at the Air
Force Academy, but he's still irving as a second lieutenant
for the Air Force. He got that COVID year senior
to go to Oklahoma State Mi alma mater, also the
home of the college Wrestling Hall of Fame. He went
up against a guy who was previously unbeaten on the
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season on the season, right and a defending Olympic champion,
defending national champion, and beat him and beat him and again,
like you can feel However, you want to feel about
the President of United States. He is the commander in
chief of our armed forces. He happened to stay around,
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was in attendance, and like you had a salute. It
was really really cool. Really, you don't have to love
wrestling to love the story. You don't have to love
the president to love the story. But if you do
love sports and upsets, and you're gonna love this story.
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this show concludes. It's called in the bonus just typing
Doug Gotleber forget podcast and you'll get that. We put
it exclusively on the podcast today. So what was missing
this this this weekend right was the upsets didn't feel
like there were any. And I saw a tweet which is,
I mean, God, bless her because she's she's a friend,
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and it Nicole Arbach, who works for Serious XM and
NBC Sports. She tweeted two non nil factors that led
to the lack of Cinderella's in the national in the
NCAA Tournament Conference realignment. B Yu very recently used to
be in the WCC Houston in the acc AAC and
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veteran former mid major players finishing careers at Power Conference schools, which,
by the way, is nil. I mean, oh, dear lord,
I don't hate to say I told you so, but
I told you so, right, I mean, all the teams
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are Power Conference schools, and more than anything, I counted
like three or four where there was a real disparity
between haves and have nots financially and success in the tournament.
I just kind of go through it and you're like, wait,
why weren't there more upsets? And by the way, if
you want to say McNeice is an upset over Clemson,
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you don't actually know the sport. Would I would guess
that McNeese spends as much or more money on an
il as Clemson does, and like Clempson's in the ACC,
I know, just take my word for it. So what
we've done is we've made college basketball, and I actually
think college football we've made it like major League baseball.
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That's what we've done Major League baseball, and in Major
League Baseball, there's a reason the Dodgers have been in
the playoffs many consecutive years that they've been in the
playoffs there Jay still it seems like fifteen straight years.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
But since like twenty thirteen. Was that like twelve years
or something.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah, and the disparity is even more great now, and
you don't have a farm system, and there's rules and
things in place, okay, like look with Major League Baseball,
you don't get arbitration eligible to what your fourth year
and the BIGS that's after you're in the minors. So
there's a way actually to beat to be kind of competitive,
as we've seen with Tampa and with some of these
other other small market teams. But I mean, if you
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ask yourself, honestly, it's more of an upset when the
Red Sox and Yankees and Cubs and Dodgers don't reach
the playoffs than when they do reach the playoffs. You know,
when the Padres don't win in the playoffs, it or that,
you know, all the teams with money, all the big
market teams, and that's what we have in college basketball.
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Even more so, though even more so because the disparity
is if again, if we take what I am told
is the budget of these teams, which are between two
and a half as the very least in maybe two
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is the very least in Power five basketballs two million dollars.
You're talking about teams at my level, at our level,
and we're not at the top end of it. But
the top end of my league, the Horizon league, is
like four hundred thousand dollars spread out amongst your roster.
And again we are nowhere. I just I'm telling you,
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I'm nowhere near the top. So you have a complete
you have the haves and the have nots, and then
you don't have binding, lengthy contracts. So the reward for
discovering a kid, recruiting a kid, developing a kid, and
making a kid better is after a year, when they're
really good, they move on and make more money. What
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you used to have at the college level, what you
used to have at the college level is four and
five year guys, maybe even a six year guy. And
now what you have at the college level is, yeah,
you have the four or five year guys, six year guys,
but the bigger schools are buying those guys up because
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they know they're of more value. So I mean, again,
we can sit here and say what it's about. What
it's not about. It's about the money. Don't get me wrong.
You still need coaching, you still need role acceptance and
guys to be put in the proper roles. The coaching
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hasn't changed, but the disparity in the talent has and
it's spread out among levels. But what's at the high
major level. Well, look, they can pay guys one hundred
and fifty thousand dollars two hundred thousand dollars to sit
on the bench, and it's hard for players. There are
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guys who are like, you know, i'd coach. I'd like
to come play for you, but I can make. That's
money I'll never make playing basketball. To just sit there
and to work out every day. And you can preach
to them, hey, come play for us for two years
and you can make two x three x four x
of that, but there's no promise of that, and they
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all watch the tournament and when you know eighty eight
percent of one league makes the tournament, they're like, yeah,
I could do that, but I get to be in
the tournament, not understanding that every basketball player has this
thought of their way better than they actually are. Most
people do. So you, no matter what you're being paid,
you think I'm gonna prove them wrong and I'm gonna
play more and I'm gonna be a part of it.
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And you know, if you play in one of those leagues.
There's a better than better than fifty fifty sho you're
going to play in the NCAA tournament, why would you
go to one of the Cinderellas. So I don't know
if we've ruined it or we've just stained it, or
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it's a stain that is fixable once we have some
sort of playing field leveler. But that was a weird
weekend to watch where without watching you knew what the
outcome was going to be, if you had any sort
of understanding of it. You know, I still enjoyed it.
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I still think there's really good basketball, and there's really
good stories. But again, if we're honest with ourselves, we
have made it nearly impossible to ever have a Butler,
to ever have a because Butler at the time was
in the Horizon League, to ever have a George Mason,
ever have a VCU, to ever have one of those.
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It's one thing to pull off a one game upset,
something that really can't truly happened this year. It's a
whole other thing to pull off four consecutive upsets against
teams with twenty thirty, forty times the money. So I
enjoyed it, but I kind of knew the out. It
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was a lot like It's a lot like if somebody
told you the ending to a movie and then said,
but no, no, you'll enjoy the movie, and you're like, yeah,
I like the movie. But I knew that he was
going to die in the end, right if somebody told you,
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I remember a return of the Jedi, And I knew
that Darth Vader took off his helmet towards the end
of the movie. So the entire movie I struggled to watch.
I mean, I was a little kid at the time,
but I kept asking my brother who had seen the movie?
When Sarvader going to take off his helmet. It's kind
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of what college basketball's become.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
So be it Jedi?
Speaker 1 (11:25):
This is There's other portions to it we need to
get to. You know, Danny Hurley losing and the secret
audio of him talking about the reps. There's whether or
not Derrek Queen transfer traveled on his game winner against
Colorado State. There's the coaches now moving is Nico Medved
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after that game has now taken the job at the
University of Minnesota, his alma mater. Or he did not
play basketball. He was a hockey player, by the way,
and there was a manager growing up. But you know
the tournament was built on the backs of mid major
teams colossal upsets finding out about Steph Curry and CJ McCullum.
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I mean, go back and think of Harold the show Arsenal.
If you go back and think about the names you
remember from TJ Soarrantine from Vermont, those days are gone,
man Or The likelihood of seeing multiple wins is infintestimal
because not only are their starters better, are their coaches
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and travel better funded and everything, but they pay players
more to sit on the bench than you can play
for your entire team.
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Speaker 6 (13:12):
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Speaker 1 (13:18):
So I want to get I want to give Dan
Byer plenty of time to clear his clear his proverbial
throat on uh because we had game time and I
rambled about uniforms and he was really well prepared for it.
So we'll do it within love and hate. But uh uh,
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it's pretty interesting. You know Aaron Rodgers still waiting for
him to pick a team. And I also, if you
tuned in Friday to the Herd, I made a comment
about Brownie and then the Lakers played, so yesterday this Saturday,
the day's run together when you're just watching sports and
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then you're in the you're waiting for the portal to open,
which it opened earlier today, all day long. But uh,
I just I think the whole Brony coverage thing is
kind of comical. We'll get to that this hour. We
got the press up coming, we got some Mookie bet
stuff up coming. We've got a lot up coming. But
every Monday we like to recap things we've all seen
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from around the world of sports. We do so with
a little something we call love and hate.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
What did you love?
Speaker 7 (14:31):
God?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I love you and what did you hate? These Claire
hay Is love love, love and hate hate hate? Hmm
much you love from the weekend? What'd you hate from
the weekend? Let's start with our good friend Dan Bayer
who has so much to love.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
I love it.
Speaker 8 (14:53):
Well, yeah, we were going to talk about this in
game time, but I'll bring it up as a love
in Those on the e coast may want to plug
their ears. I loved the schedule of games during the
NCAA tournament. It has taken me a while, but to
have Oregon Arizona be there at night last night when
I don't want that weekend to end.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Oh, pac ten after dark? You tell us pack ten
after dark. Everybody's like, hey, pack ten after dark's dead. No,
it's not nca tournament.
Speaker 8 (15:22):
I get it that those on the East Coast are like,
it's Monday morning and the tournament is still going on.
Yes it is, but I'm going to take the advantage
of the Pacific time zone and use it for my love.
It was great to have it. I know people didn't
love the standalone games and how it was done and
back of the day everything had to be done before
sixty minutes started. Well that's no longer the case. We're
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in a new time and it's time to embrace it.
I love that we had the games spread out throughout
the day, checking in here and there, and then at
night when I was winding down, there was more basketball
than ever.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
So I loved it last night.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
You loved Caleb Love.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah, he was really good.
Speaker 8 (16:02):
Yes, he was good match up between those fighting Ducks
and Wildcats and that as he said, packed twelve after dark.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Conference of Champions. I saw that tweet earlier today that
that I just love day Pass his own old partner.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Oh, I love that tweet.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
How good was that tweet?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
What's your name again?
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yeah? If if you missed it, Dave Pash who used
to be you know, his his partner. What do you say?
Earlier today? I gotta I gotta find it. But so conference,
I can hear Bill saying, Conference of Champions, what a game?
What a life? I'm sleeping in the desert. What's your
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name again? He used to do that all the time
to pass? It was so good? So good? That was
That was a fun one. I was sam, what's left
in the weekend?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I'm gonna pull my love of the weekend for something
that probably happened late last night in Iowa City, Iowa,
Iowa Athletics stractor Beth Gets probably giving a Drake coach
Ben McCollum a call late Sunday night, maybe very early
this morning. But that's my love of the weekend. Is
Ben McCollum coming home to Iowa City to take over
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the Iowa Hawkeye men's basketball team. This seems like a
perfect pairing.
Speaker 7 (17:23):
Ben.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Of course, this from Iowa City, born there, did a
lot of work, winning four national titles at the D
two level, and he's still fairly young. He's like forty three,
turning forty four next month. So I love that that
he's the new coach. People are really really excited about this. Yeah,
it's Ben McCollum time in Iowa City.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
That's my love.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Okay, what about you there, Chase, do.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Do you have an opinion on that? Like a drive
by opinion?
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Do you like that Ben McCollum. I mean, he won
four national championships with the D two level, he's from
Iowa and he just led Drake to Pready one and three,
and you know Bennett Search is going to come with him.
It's kind of a no brainer.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
I didn't know how long was this in the works.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
I I don't know because did you hear his answer
when he was asked?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Because he was asked the question and by the way
him on Friday, didn't you?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah? And I did I ask him about future jobs
or something?
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah, it's not a job hopper. That's the thing is
that you're like a little pop.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Well, he gave it. He gave a real honest answer
about it. He said, you know, I forget, But did
you hear his answer that he gave after the game,
then you can Yeah, you can find that.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Can you can you summarize it for us? Or did
he curse?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
No, he didn't curse at all. He was just like, oh, hey,
you know, I don't think I can answer that all shots. Yeah,
he was like one of those like, okay, he goes.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Did he answer the question that if if Drake did
not get destroyed by Kendrick Lamar wassher if he would
still be a Drake.
Speaker 7 (19:03):
Or or no?
Speaker 1 (19:04):
He did No one asked that.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
No one else think around that name.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
You know it would be fun, is if we had
a Drake versus Lamar matchup. There's a Lamar University in Texas. Yes,
we have Drake versus Lamar as Olmont, Texas. That'd be fun.
Little Drake versus Lamar.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
All right, I'll give I'll give my my love. Whyet
Hendrickson winning in the heavyweight division in uh in college
wrestling a national championship. He upset Gable Stevenson, who's the
defending gold medalist, right and.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
He also tried out for the Buffalo Bills. He was
in there camp for a few weeks.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Yeah, I mean, he's done a little bit of everything.
He's a UFC guy. He won seventy matches, seventy matches
in a row, like he was like unbeat And then
if you watch the match, it was cool because at
the start of the match, like Hendrickson walks around, he's
got the American flag rock Runner and you're like, whoa
hold on, buddy, And he had been a world champion before,
and he also is actually a second lieutenant in the
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Air Force, and Stevenson kind of like big dogged him,
like tried to like kind of bump him get out
of his way. It was it was it. It felt
like if WWE was ever real, like real wrestling, that's
what it would look like. I mean, it was a
great match, and it seemed like he waited till Stevenson
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was tired right at the very end of the match,
and he got the he got the takedown and won
the match. He just kind of held on. But it
was that was crazy. So and then you know the
the optics with the saluting the President of United States
who happened to stay for the match. It was really cool.
So yeah, man, that was that was dope as my
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school so like that like that as well. But that
was a of the moments this weekend. That was the
best sports moment for me. What about you there? Uh, Jacetu,
you gotta find something nice to say about the weekend
because I know he got plenty of the j I'll.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Tell you what I loved. I loved that Danny Hurley
is finally getting the deserved criticism. I saw some pretty
influential voices on TV and on Twitter be like, are
we really going to normalize this behavior? You know, during
the election cycle and since the election, we've heard a
lot from one side of the political spectrum of we
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can't normalize wrong things, we can't continue to accept these things.
And I think with Danny Hurley, I'll reached that point
where we're like, are we really going to put up
with this guy being a douche after losses? So that
whole thing yesterday with the getting caught on Mike telling
the other team that the refs might screw you, blah
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blah blah. I actually watched the last five minutes of
that game, like, it wasn't the ref's fault that you
and your team choked away that game. Your team stopped
making shots, their team started making shots, And it just
struck me as like, we're gonna allow him to be
completely unaccountable for his team's actions towards the end of
that game. So I love that he got some criticism
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from people that actually matter overnight.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Uh, okay, let's get to what we hated. That's what
we loved, Dan, Do you have any more than you loved?
I told you, I give you ammal time. No, it's
totally okay, yep, all right, let's get to what you
hated from the weekend. Let's start with you, Jay Stewsonce
you're the resident hater, all right.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
So the uh, the NCAA tournament brackets are the most
unpredictable thing in the history of the world. I said
last week, it's unfair that people that do this for
a living, experts have to put their brackets online for
us to look at and scrutinize, and it inevitably takes
a little bit of a tear at their credibility when
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they get their brackets wrong. So if I'm going to
give you that grace, I also want to do this.
How about this. If you admit on the air that
you are a college basketball casual, you can't brag about
having fifteen of the sixteen teams remaining. You can't brag
about that you have lucked yourself into it. And man,
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I'm really fortunate that I just chose teams that won.
It's not a hey, take a look at my bracket.
Because you already said you're a casual. It was the
luck of the draw. So I hate people taking credit
for bracket victories after saying they're casuals.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Sam sent me hate it for the wickend.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
I think a lot of people were I clear my
throat there. I think a lot of people were had
hitch their wagons to the Saint John's Red Storm making
a deep run. I think this team's maybe with Patino
a little bit ahead of schedule, but you know, like
many I had Saint John's going pretty far.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
And so you hated that they lost.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
I hated that they lost. I hated it because I
think Patino in the NC Tournament is is always a
good thing.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
It's you know, it's cal Perry and the NCAA tourn
It is not a good thing.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
It is one had to eliminate the other. But I
think I think Patino's kind of the the mob boss
of of that uh, that family right there.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Like he's he does. He does have a Michael Corleoni
sort of look.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
I mean, like I think of cal Perry as being
sort of like a high ranking lieutenant. But like Patino's
up there, more national titles, you know, more fun you know, yes, yes,
Rhode Island. Yeah, it's kind of the backyard for the
uh some of those guys. So you know, their offense,
Saint John's offense. During the regular season, they they eked
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out a lot of grinder wins with defense and hustle
and and energy and and they were just shoot, they
just shot terribly in that game against Kentucky or excuse
me against uh against Arkansas, I was thinking about cal
Perry's old stomping grounds. So that's what I hated that
Patino's not in the tournament anymore. And it was a
great year for them, I mean, the conference champion, tournament champions,
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and regular season champions, and so lots to look forward
to for the red storm there if their fans are
certainly showed out.
Speaker 8 (25:07):
So Doug, because you were in with the hurt for
the Herd on Friday, we were in for you on Friday,
and we took this line and it means a lot.
And I think that's what Rick Bettina needs to remember.
Don't cry because it's over, Smile because it happened. That's
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what you need to realize. With what a great year
it was for Saint John's. So as much as Iowa
Sam may have hated to see this run come to
an end, what a run it was through the Big
East this season.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
You're here fair enough, fair enough? What about you there?
Dan Buyer said you hated it from the weekend.
Speaker 8 (25:47):
Well, okay, quick question as we look at this. Well,
first of all, Doug, I actually hated the buzzer beater
for Maryland. And this kind of piggybacks a little bit
of what Jason was talking about. He was talking about
bracket pools. I'm talking about survivor pools, because if you
were in a survivor pool for the NCAA tournament, there
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was a very good chance that the pool you were
in had a overwhelming number of people pick Maryland to
survive yesterday, and it would have turned Survivor pools upside down.
Everywhere was a four to twelve matchup. It's the way
you feel is the perfect, easiest recipe, but it would
have blown everything up for so many people, except the
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ones who stayed away from that game or maybe picked
New Mexico. But Doug, would we talk about people not
like being involved or not happy with upsets when you
partake in March Madness fun like a bracket that we
have always said is the reason why it's so popular.
Or you find other ways to enjoy it, whether it
be betting in Vegas or if your state allows you,
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or in Survivor pools and other things. Those games make
it great. My buddy texted me within sixty seconds of
Maryland's win, You're like, thank goodness, my Survivor entry is
still alive. And so there were a lot of people
who are in those sorts of pools and competitions that
were on both sides of it, and I think that's
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what makes it great. So I don't want to hear
anybody poop pooing. We don't have Cinderella. You make your
own fun. In the NCAA tournament, and that's what I'm
calling on people to do. So I hate it when
people poo poo the weekend that was. Yeah, it was
kind of a blonde, a little boring, but there's ways
that you can make it exciting for yourself.
Speaker 7 (27:34):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Okay, I'm gonna be critical of somebody who I consider
a friend and I think is really really good as job. Actually,
probably two somebodies in a second, but Mick Croton is
the head coach of the UCLA Bruins.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
Right.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
They were beaten by Tennessee in the second round of
the tournament, and they asked him about what everybody like.
By the way, John cal Perry acted like he didn't
know the Portal Open time, like stop it, what's the
Portal Open Monday? Huh? And we're still playing it like
you didn't know. Come on, dude, so actually let me go.
(28:12):
Let me go an older here. This was Kevin Willard
after their first round win. Uh, talking about something that
happened around Christmas time.
Speaker 9 (28:24):
And it took you guys three questions.
Speaker 10 (28:26):
I want to ask about the basketball too, But you know,
obviously your name has come up and as a candidate
for various positions because Maryland has done so well this year.
Have you felt compelled to address any of that with
your team at all about your future at Maryland.
Speaker 9 (28:43):
Yeah, I've I've addressed it with them directly.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
You know.
Speaker 9 (28:47):
I'll say this. This is Damon and I talked on
Sunday night, right before right before selection Sunday. He gave
me a term sheet right before selections. I really wasn't
focused on it, been focused on this team and this
Damon's talked to my agent. I talked to Damon this
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morning at length about where we are. Obviously, it's difficult
right now because I think we know his situation. He's
probably going to SMU, so it's kind of tough to
negotiate with somebody that's maybe not here. But I need
to make fundamental changes to the program. That's what I'm
(29:27):
focused on right now. That's why probably a deal hasn't
got done because I want to see I need to
see fundamental changes done. I want this program to be great.
I want to be the best in the country. I
want to win a national championship. But there's things that
need to change. When you're at a place for three
years and you put your heart and soul into it,
you kind of say sit there and say, okay, wait
(29:48):
a second. For us to be really successful, X, Y
and Z needs a change. And first and foremost, I
need to make sure that we are where we are
with NIL and REV share is not where we've been
with NIL in the past two years. We've been one
of the worst, if not lowest, in the NIL in
the last two years. So that's first and foremost. I
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also have to make a fundamental change where I can
do the things that I want to do with my program.
You know, I wanted to spend the NEXTRA night in
New York this year to celebrate Christmas with my team,
and I was told that we can't do that because
it's too expensive.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
All right, So that's that's Kevin Willard. And then this
is mc cronin after losing in the second round.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Do you start right right now? Guys, it's twelve forty
am and the season just ended. That's it. You're gonna
ask me about next year?
Speaker 7 (30:47):
Right now?
Speaker 6 (30:47):
My biggest concern is how bad the seats are on
the Allegiant flight, on that terrible plane that we're going
to have to fly home tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
That's one of us. The cheese the playing version of
the cheese.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
So again again, here's the deal. Mick makes four point
one million, Kevin makes somewhere in the same neighborhood. Like,
I get it. You're first of all, like I've flown
Allegiant it's notings I can add for Allegiant Airlines, right,
but openly complaining about some stuff when you know, I'm again,
(31:29):
I make way less money for coaching a team, and
we have not been successful. I'm you know, on the court.
But like you know, Chris Well, we have Thanksgiving dinner.
Bill came. We went to my country club, like instead
of fighting with the school over a couple thousand dollars, Bill,
I pick up the bill, right, and imagine if I
(31:51):
made four million dollars. I just some of the things,
like McK cronin acting like he's not thinking about next year.
Of course you are. You meet a you meet usually
periodically once a month, just talk about your team with
your coaches, and then as you get closer to the
end of the season, you start talking about who's staying,
who's going. The disingenuous inness of it, like especially with Mick,
(32:13):
who usually with his complaints, is as real as reel
as can be. So somebody asked him about next year. Yeah,
of course we're talking about it. You know, we gotta
fly home, then we gotta meet that's the process, have
exit meetings and then we'll figure out what's what. But
just the the constant complain, what are we really complaining about?
(32:36):
What are we really complaining about?
Speaker 3 (32:37):
I'll stick up for Allegiance. They have direct flights from
LA to cedar Api, z Iowa. They're very affordable and
I utilize that in the last couple of summers. So
how about that. The seats are very uncomfortable, but I'm
getting what I pay for.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah, I mean the seats on Spirit are really uncomfortable.
But people in Spirit Airlines apparently getting fights. I haven't
seen a fight outside in the Legion Airline.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
I flew Spirit Airlines for the first time in years,
doing a direct flight from LA to Philly. Can't complain, honestly,
it was just just got it done. It takes off
at land on it like takes off in lands.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
It takes it takes off in land. You hope.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
I'd love to.
Speaker 8 (33:07):
I'd love to find somebody that isn't in first class,
that sits in any planning goes yes, this is where
it's at right.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Yeah, of course it's what it is.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Motor transportation. Dude.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
You know you greet your teeth and Barrett and just
want to get to where you're going, right.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Like, there's a lot tougher things than my charter flight.
Like say that out loud, My charter flights seats aren't
that comfortable. One more time, My charter flights seats aren't
that comfortable.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
To his point, you feel like your spine is imploding
in itself. But that's just part of doing business. One
hundred and fifty years ago, those people had to take
a wagon train.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
And that's love and hate.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
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Stut gott Leap Show here on Fox Sports Radio. And
anyone who's played against his teams not surprised from the
times that his team's terrorized us when I was at
Oklahoma State to what he's done before and since. Calvin
Sampson is a Hall of Fame basketball coach and his
team's in the Sweet sixteen yet again and a favorite
(34:15):
UH across all boards to reach the final fourties. Kind
of have to spend some time this year on Fox
Sports Radio. Coach, how are you going good?
Speaker 7 (34:24):
You're still one of the top point guards leading a
three on one, two on one, three two past break automatic.
You were going to find the right guy.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
We were definitely gonna get a buck in half court,
maybe not as much, and he didn't have to guard me.
So you paid an accurate, accurate, positive, positive picture. What's
your assessment of how your team played first weekend of
the tournament.
Speaker 7 (34:52):
Well, in the first game, it was all about mindset
and and maturity, making sure you're your leaders are out
and because you know every game is important, you know
you get the one sixteen. But our team has been
able to be good this year because of our player leadership,
(35:13):
and so I give a lot of credit to that
game to l J. Crier and uh J One Roberts.
Those two guys are unbelievable leaders. The then Zaga game
was a one of those games. When I saw the
brackets I saw in Zaga, Georgia said, well, it's Gonzaga
(35:34):
that's going to be a holy war mark. And the
Zaga program is there. Weren't bench smart programs in the
in the country. Over how many years. I mean they
went to night who goes to ninth straight sweet sixteen.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
At Gonzaga too.
Speaker 7 (35:53):
Yeah, unbelievable, And and they were playing their best basketball
when they put huffs at the four spot and that
means they started two fives yeah each kay and huffed
And then knew of them was going to be tough
because if you're having to double the post on both
sides of the floor, as good as them hart is
(36:13):
they were, they were going to be dangerous. So I
felt we were dialed into that game as well, played
really really good until the last two minutes and their
half court one three one trap gave us some problems.
But you know, when you get to the tournament, Dug
and you win a game, the last thing you want
to do is go backwards and analyze. You just survive
(36:36):
in advance and move on.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
I want to get to this year's team and this
week and this weekend. But like for people who I
don't know how many people in college basketball remember, but
before you got there, like Houston was a dead end job.
Speaker 11 (36:52):
It just was.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
It was friends and family only nobody went obviously back
when it was hoff Hinz, it was a decrepit old billuilding.
They threw a bunch of money into it. It's beautiful now,
but look, you you're a builder right from from Montana
Tech to Wazoo to Oklahoma. Wasn't great when you took
it over to Indiana when you took it over? What
(37:14):
has what has this build been like in comparison to
the others.
Speaker 7 (37:20):
I've enjoyed this one more because of Kellen and Lauren
being with me. You know, when I was with the
Houston Rockets and I got approached about this opportunity, you know,
my agent goes, okay, there's three report schools. This almost
to interview you. This wants to hire you. This one's
(37:42):
the press conference tomorrow. And that's how he was characterized
in all of them. But as the stars started aligning
a little bit, Kellyn had just been fired at Appalachians Stake.
You know, that's my son. I know what kind of
person he is. I know he's work as a I
(38:04):
know the kind of basketball mind he has. My daughter
Lauren was then a job where she was doing pretty good,
but it wasn't her willhouse that she's a little bit miserable,
and so I said, I told the athletics breaker at
the time, mac rhose. If you can find a way
(38:26):
to allow me to hire telling and then bring.
Speaker 11 (38:29):
Lauren in the next year, I think we can get
this done.
Speaker 7 (38:34):
So this one has been the most fun. I think
this one has been by far the hardest because of
the apathy, lack of support, just the general view of
what Houston basketball was. They were still attaching themselves to
fight Slamajamas and you.
Speaker 11 (38:56):
Know, almost forty years ago, so we didn't really have
a lot to.
Speaker 7 (39:02):
Build home, so we just started building. You know, sometimes
you inherit a winning program. Sometimes you got to build
a winning program, but been able to do it by
with my family and Karen here.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
You know.
Speaker 7 (39:16):
That's that's why this has been the best job I've
ever had, because I've you know, my my grandkids live
three miles away. I see my my two kids every day.
We go through this journey together and it's been just
a thrill of a lifetime for me. It's an unbelievable
way too. You know, obviously this is going to be
(39:38):
my last thoughts and when I decided to okay, that's it. UH.
I'll look back at my time at the University of
Houston as the UH as the UH best time in
my career?
Speaker 1 (39:51):
What will be the terminey factor? I mean, you know
how how it works when you when you become so
well respected, and you built it up to this point
and you have it perfectly set up for Kelen to
take over. You got to make that tough decision. What
will be the determined factor as to win you decide?
I'm not going to do this.
Speaker 7 (40:09):
Yeah, the fair question, and I really am not sure
even how to answer it. I do know that this
is very much a young man's a young man's time.
You know, I came up in the eighties and nineties,
and you know Judge Heathcote, I owe him so much
(40:33):
giving me opportunity to get started. And then Montana Tech
took a chance on a twenty five year old guy,
watching the state took a chance on a thirty one
year old guy. So I was pretty good at getting
hard jobs. But then again a lot of people had
to turn those jobs down for even got to me.
So but when I look back and then I look forward,
(40:57):
you always want to leave the place that you were
better shape, and obviously this one is. But I still
want to make sure that Kellen has been a position
where he's got a chance to win right away too.
So my plan, my plan is, I'm I'm definitely going
to coach on next season, and then you know, you
(41:21):
just never know. I mean, I may be here five
more years, I may be here four more years.
Speaker 11 (41:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (41:28):
I doubt it, but you never know. You do never know.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Kevin Sampson's our guest here on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, let's let's get to this weekend.
So now you know, Purdue a team that reputation wise
rugged Big ten, but no one has the defensive reputation
your team, your team has. What's what's the biggest challenge.
You've done the Sweet sixteen, You've done the Final four
(41:53):
so often. What's the biggest challenge for this group in
getting ready for Purdue.
Speaker 7 (42:00):
First of all, we respect your opponents. You forget what
other people saying things because that's irrelevant to your to
uh your mission. Our mission is to go play our
best brand of basketball art. You know, we have a
clear identity Doug on how we play. And I think
when you get in the tournament, sometimes the bright lights
(42:22):
and all the attention can chain some kids. And my
little Uzan had never played in the tournament. Now he's
got two games under his belt. I like the way
he handled the moment. So, you know, for us is
being good at the things we're good at. You can't
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always assume you're going to shoot the ball great, you
can't always assume that you're going to get a great whistle.
Those are things that are out of your control. So
being able to you know, play defense and rebound, doing
doing the things this god is here. You know, We've
won a lot of road games on nights. Some nights
we shot it good, some nights we didn't, but we
(43:05):
always found a way to win the game. I think
that's been our identity. If you watch this early not
very good offensively, you watch this late a lot more
symmetry with our offense. Our spacing has been better, our
offensive rebounds, rebound has been a little bit more consistent
than the physical nature of the game. Last year we
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played A and M in the second round in Memphis.
I think both teams went to the line fifty times
a piece, and we have four guys file out. But
that was a that was a tight whistle because back
of the game the other night was a little bit
of a looser whistle. So those are things that the
players don't worry about, but the old coaches do it
(43:49):
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
Yeah yeah, well coach, listen, it's not here to catch
up with you. We all watch and marvel at what
you're able to do, how hard they're able to compete,
and and I know this team is better offensively obviously.
You know, in the last year you had a tough
injury that really ended ended to run unfortunately. But best
of luck this weekend, and thanks so much for spend
some time with us.
Speaker 7 (44:11):
Always always good to be with you, Doug. And that's
the luck to you in year two.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
Oh well, we're gonna we're gonna need it, but I
appreciate That's Kelvin Samson, head coach of the Koogs of Houston.
I will point this out. And did you guys watch
the end of the Maryland Colorado State game? Where did
Jay stew Were you watching? I know by you were
watching that, I'm sure were you working at the time.
(44:37):
I'm trying to get my time of what it was
because I'm in Green Bay and so it was dark outside.
Were you on air Buyer during the end of the.
Speaker 8 (44:44):
Maryland No, I did the show with Mike Harmon yesterday.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
Yes, okay, So did you happen to catch the end
of it? Yes, okay. I want to make sure, like
I don't want to speak at it at a term,
it was a really that was a fun game to watch,
really competitive, and at the very end of the game,
at the very end of the game, Colorado State gets
(45:09):
a huge three from Jalen Lake. And Jalen Lake, it's
only interesting because he's actually spent four years at Colorado State.
You're like, wait, what you know? It's like the Beta max.
They still make you, only to be outdone by a
kid named Derek Queen who's star freshman center for Maryland.
(45:32):
Derek Queen is a tremendous player. Sixteen a game, sixteen
and nine gonna be a Birst round pick. And there's
a couple different parts to it. First, here's let's just
get the thoughts really quick of Maryland's head coach Kevin Willard,
who said this about the decision to get Derek Queen
(45:55):
the ball at the end of the game. I asked everybody,
I said, who wants the ball? And he said, give
me the MF ball. And I said you're getting it,
and I said don't mess around, go after it and
do it. And I give a lot, right, man, the
big dog came up and throw all right, so that
that part of it is awesome, awesome, right, give me
the ball and he goes and gets a bucket and
(46:18):
he caught it basically top of the key. Squeepes goes
to his left hand and shoot said kind of runner,
pull up off his right foot with a bank shot,
and that's what. It's a hard shot. It was good defense,
even better offense. And I think it was over Cam
Heidie Cameron Heidi, who played last year for Produce. So
I mean it's like he's going against a high level defender.
(46:41):
And what happens on social media is that's a travel.
That's a travel They CBS, trots G or maybe it
was TNT. I don't remember watching all the networks. Right,
Jeane's sterotor comes out. Jean Sterritor is there, what's the term?
He's their official and the rules analysts or something, right,
(47:05):
and Jeans of course from NFL ref but also college
basketball ref. And he's like, yeah, I mean I don't
really see a travel there, like you know it. He
kind of explains the gathering rule whatever and yet even
to today, like if you want to peruse into social media,
you get people like it is to travel, I thought
Nico medved he was like, I don't know, I didn't
call it, so it's not a travel like I even
(47:27):
he hadn't even seen even thought about it. And there's
a couple of different parts too. Here's the first important
part when you travel, if a guy travels, especially the
guy with the basketball travels. First of all, when you
look at the bench, usually the opposing bench is all
going to be doing the traveling symbol, right, and there'll
be people in the crowd doing the travel travel thing.
(47:49):
I didn't see any of that. Also, when you if
you're Dare Queen and you travel, it's a lot like
when you misspeak or you yet you're syntaxes off in
the English language. It just feels weird, is it is?
Or are I'm always confused? Right, if you use the
wrong tense or you know the wrong pronoun, you use
(48:12):
the wrong verb, you use these like, it feels weird.
Traveling is much the same way you play basketball. And
Derek Queen's a young kid thing, he's like nineteen years old,
so he's been playing basketball probably for I don't know,
twelve years, ten twelve years, like, you get it, And
if he traveled, it would have felt weird and he'd
be like, eh, yeah, i'll count it. None of that happened.
(48:32):
But the bigger thing is we've become these we've become.
This is who we've become, and I get it. We
wanted upset so badly Cairod State felt like an upset
against Maryland, right that you'll do anything to point out
the flaws in something great. And again, it doesn't mean
(48:56):
we need it to be artificial. We don't need it
to be like you know, he gets the ball and
he runs five or six steps and then everybody stops
is like what the heck? And then he lays the
ball in. You had the rules analysts say it wasn't
a travel. He had no one in the stands or
on the Colorado States bench doing the travel symbol. It
(49:16):
may have left a little different to you because he
jumped off his right foot and the gather wasn't until
it was. I mean, was it technically maybe close? Okay?
This is like Jordan's push off of Brian Russell, like
what are we really doing? Why have we found the
need to find flaw in everything. This is the Sidney
(49:38):
Crawford has a mole. I'm aware Sidney Crawford has a mole.
Have any of you who point out Sidney Crawford has
a mole? Been like, if Sidney Crawford wants to go
out with you, You're like, I don't know, she's got
a mole. No, I'm just not in the like moles
creep me out. I can't stop staring at them. No,
you're going out with Sidney Crawford. And I know the
(49:59):
Sidney Crawford referen might be a little bit too old, right,
but Sydney Crammer, by the way, is still hot. I
don't think anybody would still point out she's like sixty
and she's still amazing. So we have to stop this.
We have to stop finding flaw or controversy or a
conspiracy in literally everything. Derek Queen just made a really,
(50:24):
really hard shot. Marylynd's gonna move on. It sucks. If
you were super invested into Colorado State basketball for the
last weekend, or if you followed this team all year,
it's been a really cool story. But I mean even
the opposing coach was not like it was a blatant
(50:44):
travel whatever they got away with it. It's like I
don't know, right, So I just how do we become
those people?
Speaker 7 (51:03):
Dan?
Speaker 1 (51:04):
Did you did you think it was a blatant travel?
Speaker 2 (51:06):
No?
Speaker 3 (51:07):
I didn't think it was a travel at all.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
Right, I love it? Yeah, I mean you have you
have the rules analyst, a guy who's officiated final fours,
but like you didn't see much anything there. But you're like, no, no,
I I know, I'm right, Like, no, you don't. You
don't actually know how the rule is officiated. I just
(51:32):
I don't know what to do with people like that.
It'd be one thing if he was like, yeah, you know,
it's kind of close, but you don't call in that
spot and there's some arguing, but he was like, no
that I don't even see a travel there. But that's
who we become. We've become that obnoxious guy that's sitting
there going like she's too skinny, Like, dude, she would
(51:56):
you would never be able to ask her out ever
in your life. Yeah, but she's just she's it's too
skinny
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to that, did you know anything about the White Hendrickson story.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I saw some noise on Twitter about a wrestler, but
I would not have put the two together.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
No, Sam Iowa guy right Iowa formerly the Iconic Space
for Wrestling. Did you know the White Hendrickson story before
he joined us today?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Be honest with you, I did not, So that was
the first hearing about it.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Very cool, Okay, cool. So I'll just promote this. Our
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and I caught up with White Hendrickson. Just I'll pitch
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what no wrestling was missing in basketball? Was in wrestling.
Wyatt Hendrickson is a second lieutenant in the Air Force.
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And because he had finished four years at the Air
Force Academy, but he's still irving as a second lieutenant
for the Air Force. He got that COVID year senior
to go to Oklahoma State Mi alma mater, also the
home of the college Wrestling Hall of Fame. He went
up against a guy who was previously unbeaten on the
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season on the season, right and a defending Olympic champion,
defending national champion, and beat him and beat him and again,
like you can feel However, you want to feel about
the President of United States. He is the commander in
chief of our armed forces. He happened to stay around,
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was in attendance, and like you had a salute. It
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it exclusively on the podcast today. So what was missing
this this this weekend right was the upsets didn't feel
like there were any. And I saw a tweet which is,
I mean, God, bless her because she's she's a friend,
(03:21):
and it Nicole Arbach, who works for Serious XM and
NBC Sports. She tweeted two non nil factors that led
to the lack of Cinderella's in the national in the
NCAA Tournament Conference realignment. B Yu very recently used to
be in the WCC Houston in the acc AAC and
(03:44):
veteran former mid major players finishing careers at Power Conference schools, which,
by the way, is nil. I mean, oh, dear lord,
I don't hate to say I told you so, but
I told you so, right, I mean, all the teams
(04:05):
are Power Conference schools, and more than anything, I counted
like three or four where there was a real disparity
between haves and have nots financially and success in the tournament.
I just kind of go through it and you're like, wait,
why weren't there more upsets? And by the way, if
you want to say McNeice is an upset over Clemson,
(04:27):
you don't actually know the sport. Would I would guess
that McNeese spends as much or more money on an
il as Clemson does, and like Clempson's in the ACC,
I know, just take my word for it. So what
we've done is we've made college basketball, and I actually
think college football we've made it like major League baseball.
(04:52):
That's what we've done Major League baseball, and in Major
League Baseball, there's a reason the Dodgers have been in
the playoffs many consecutive years that they've been in the
playoffs there Jay still it seems like fifteen straight years.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
But since like twenty thirteen. Was that like twelve years
or something.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah, and the disparity is even more great now, and
you don't have a farm system, and there's rules and
things in place, okay, like look with Major League Baseball,
you don't get arbitration eligible to what your fourth year
and the BIGS that's after you're in the minors. So
there's a way actually to beat to be kind of competitive,
as we've seen with Tampa and with some of these
other other small market teams. But I mean, if you
(05:34):
ask yourself, honestly, it's more of an upset when the
Red Sox and Yankees and Cubs and Dodgers don't reach
the playoffs than when they do reach the playoffs. You know,
when the Padres don't win in the playoffs, it or that,
you know, all the teams with money, all the big
market teams, and that's what we have in college basketball.
(05:59):
Even more so, though even more so because the disparity
is if again, if we take what I am told
is the budget of these teams, which are between two
and a half as the very least in maybe two
(06:20):
is the very least in Power five basketballs two million dollars.
You're talking about teams at my level, at our level,
and we're not at the top end of it. But
the top end of my league, the Horizon league, is
like four hundred thousand dollars spread out amongst your roster.
And again we are nowhere. I just I'm telling you,
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I'm nowhere near the top. So you have a complete
you have the haves and the have nots, and then
you don't have binding, lengthy contracts. So the reward for
discovering a kid, recruiting a kid, developing a kid, and
making a kid better is after a year, when they're
really good, they move on and make more money. What
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you used to have at the college level, what you
used to have at the college level is four and
five year guys, maybe even a six year guy. And
now what you have at the college level is, yeah,
you have the four or five year guys, six year guys,
but the bigger schools are buying those guys up because
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they know they're of more value. So I mean, again,
we can sit here and say what it's about. What
it's not about. It's about the money. Don't get me wrong.
You still need coaching, you still need role acceptance and
guys to be put in the proper roles. The coaching
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hasn't changed, but the disparity in the talent has and
it's spread out among levels. But what's at the high
major level. Well, look, they can pay guys one hundred
and fifty thousand dollars two hundred thousand dollars to sit
on the bench, and it's hard for players. There are
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guys who are like, you know, i'd coach. I'd like
to come play for you, but I can make. That's
money I'll never make playing basketball. To just sit there
and to work out every day. And you can preach
to them, hey, come play for us for two years
and you can make two x three x four x
of that, but there's no promise of that, and they
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all watch the tournament and when you know eighty eight
percent of one league makes the tournament, they're like, yeah,
I could do that, but I get to be in
the tournament, not understanding that every basketball player has this
thought of their way better than they actually are. Most
people do. So you, no matter what you're being paid,
you think I'm gonna prove them wrong and I'm gonna
play more and I'm gonna be a part of it.
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And you know, if you play in one of those leagues.
There's a better than better than fifty fifty sho you're
going to play in the NCAA tournament, why would you
go to one of the Cinderellas. So I don't know
if we've ruined it or we've just stained it, or
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it's a stain that is fixable once we have some
sort of playing field leveler. But that was a weird
weekend to watch where without watching you knew what the
outcome was going to be, if you had any sort
of understanding of it. You know, I still enjoyed it.
(09:40):
I still think there's really good basketball, and there's really
good stories. But again, if we're honest with ourselves, we
have made it nearly impossible to ever have a Butler,
to ever have a because Butler at the time was
in the Horizon League, to ever have a George Mason,
ever have a VCU, to ever have one of those.
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It's one thing to pull off a one game upset,
something that really can't truly happened this year. It's a
whole other thing to pull off four consecutive upsets against
teams with twenty thirty, forty times the money. So I
enjoyed it, but I kind of knew the out. It
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was a lot like It's a lot like if somebody
told you the ending to a movie and then said,
but no, no, you'll enjoy the movie, and you're like, yeah,
I like the movie. But I knew that he was
going to die in the end, right if somebody told you,
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I remember a return of the Jedi, And I knew
that Darth Vader took off his helmet towards the end
of the movie. So the entire movie I struggled to watch.
I mean, I was a little kid at the time,
but I kept asking my brother who had seen the movie?
When Sarvader going to take off his helmet. It's kind
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of what college basketball's become.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
So be it Jedi?
Speaker 1 (11:25):
This is There's other portions to it we need to
get to. You know, Danny Hurley losing and the secret
audio of him talking about the reps. There's whether or
not Derrek Queen transfer traveled on his game winner against
Colorado State. There's the coaches now moving is Nico Medved
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after that game has now taken the job at the
University of Minnesota, his alma mater. Or he did not
play basketball. He was a hockey player, by the way,
and there was a manager growing up. But you know
the tournament was built on the backs of mid major
teams colossal upsets finding out about Steph Curry and CJ McCullum.
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I mean, go back and think of Harold the show Arsenal.
If you go back and think about the names you
remember from TJ Soarrantine from Vermont, those days are gone,
man Or The likelihood of seeing multiple wins is infintestimal
because not only are their starters better, are their coaches
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and travel better funded and everything, but they pay players
more to sit on the bench than you can play
for your entire team.
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Speaker 6 (13:12):
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Speaker 1 (13:18):
So I want to get I want to give Dan
Byer plenty of time to clear his clear his proverbial
throat on uh because we had game time and I
rambled about uniforms and he was really well prepared for it.
So we'll do it within love and hate. But uh uh,
(13:41):
it's pretty interesting. You know Aaron Rodgers still waiting for
him to pick a team. And I also, if you
tuned in Friday to the Herd, I made a comment
about Brownie and then the Lakers played, so yesterday this Saturday,
the day's run together when you're just watching sports and
(14:03):
then you're in the you're waiting for the portal to open,
which it opened earlier today, all day long. But uh,
I just I think the whole Brony coverage thing is
kind of comical. We'll get to that this hour. We
got the press up coming, we got some Mookie bet
stuff up coming. We've got a lot up coming. But
every Monday we like to recap things we've all seen
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from around the world of sports. We do so with
a little something we call love and hate.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
What did you love?
Speaker 7 (14:31):
God?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I love you and what did you hate? These Claire
hay Is love love, love and hate hate hate? Hmm
much you love from the weekend? What'd you hate from
the weekend? Let's start with our good friend Dan Bayer
who has so much to love.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
I love it.
Speaker 8 (14:53):
Well, yeah, we were going to talk about this in
game time, but I'll bring it up as a love
in Those on the e coast may want to plug
their ears. I loved the schedule of games during the
NCAA tournament. It has taken me a while, but to
have Oregon Arizona be there at night last night when
I don't want that weekend to end.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Oh, pac ten after dark? You tell us pack ten
after dark. Everybody's like, hey, pack ten after dark's dead. No,
it's not nca tournament.
Speaker 8 (15:22):
I get it that those on the East Coast are like,
it's Monday morning and the tournament is still going on.
Yes it is, but I'm going to take the advantage
of the Pacific time zone and use it for my love.
It was great to have it. I know people didn't
love the standalone games and how it was done and
back of the day everything had to be done before
sixty minutes started. Well that's no longer the case. We're
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in a new time and it's time to embrace it.
I love that we had the games spread out throughout
the day, checking in here and there, and then at
night when I was winding down, there was more basketball
than ever.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
So I loved it last night.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
You loved Caleb Love.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah, he was really good.
Speaker 8 (16:02):
Yes, he was good match up between those fighting Ducks
and Wildcats and that as he said, packed twelve after dark.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Conference of Champions. I saw that tweet earlier today that
that I just love day Pass his own old partner.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Oh, I love that tweet.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
How good was that tweet?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
What's your name again?
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yeah? If if you missed it, Dave Pash who used
to be you know, his his partner. What do you say?
Earlier today? I gotta I gotta find it. But so conference,
I can hear Bill saying, Conference of Champions, what a game?
What a life? I'm sleeping in the desert. What's your
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name again? He used to do that all the time
to pass? It was so good? So good? That was
That was a fun one. I was sam, what's left
in the weekend?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I'm gonna pull my love of the weekend for something
that probably happened late last night in Iowa City, Iowa,
Iowa Athletics stractor Beth Gets probably giving a Drake coach
Ben McCollum a call late Sunday night, maybe very early
this morning. But that's my love of the weekend. Is
Ben McCollum coming home to Iowa City to take over
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the Iowa Hawkeye men's basketball team. This seems like a
perfect pairing.
Speaker 7 (17:23):
Ben.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Of course, this from Iowa City, born there, did a
lot of work, winning four national titles at the D
two level, and he's still fairly young. He's like forty three,
turning forty four next month. So I love that that
he's the new coach. People are really really excited about this. Yeah,
it's Ben McCollum time in Iowa City.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
That's my love.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Okay, what about you there, Chase, do.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Do you have an opinion on that? Like a drive
by opinion?
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Do you like that Ben McCollum. I mean, he won
four national championships with the D two level, he's from
Iowa and he just led Drake to Pready one and three,
and you know Bennett Search is going to come with him.
It's kind of a no brainer.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
I didn't know how long was this in the works.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
I I don't know because did you hear his answer
when he was asked?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Because he was asked the question and by the way
him on Friday, didn't you?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah? And I did I ask him about future jobs
or something?
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah, it's not a job hopper. That's the thing is
that you're like a little pop.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Well, he gave it. He gave a real honest answer
about it. He said, you know, I forget, But did
you hear his answer that he gave after the game,
then you can Yeah, you can find that.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Can you can you summarize it for us? Or did
he curse?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
No, he didn't curse at all. He was just like, oh, hey,
you know, I don't think I can answer that all shots. Yeah,
he was like one of those like, okay, he goes.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Did he answer the question that if if Drake did
not get destroyed by Kendrick Lamar wassher if he would
still be a Drake.
Speaker 7 (19:03):
Or or no?
Speaker 1 (19:04):
He did No one asked that.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
No one else think around that name.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
You know it would be fun, is if we had
a Drake versus Lamar matchup. There's a Lamar University in Texas. Yes,
we have Drake versus Lamar as Olmont, Texas. That'd be fun.
Little Drake versus Lamar.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
All right, I'll give I'll give my my love. Whyet
Hendrickson winning in the heavyweight division in uh in college
wrestling a national championship. He upset Gable Stevenson, who's the
defending gold medalist, right and.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
He also tried out for the Buffalo Bills. He was
in there camp for a few weeks.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Yeah, I mean, he's done a little bit of everything.
He's a UFC guy. He won seventy matches, seventy matches
in a row, like he was like unbeat And then
if you watch the match, it was cool because at
the start of the match, like Hendrickson walks around, he's
got the American flag rock Runner and you're like, whoa
hold on, buddy, And he had been a world champion before,
and he also is actually a second lieutenant in the
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Air Force, and Stevenson kind of like big dogged him,
like tried to like kind of bump him get out
of his way. It was it was it. It felt
like if WWE was ever real, like real wrestling, that's
what it would look like. I mean, it was a
great match, and it seemed like he waited till Stevenson
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was tired right at the very end of the match,
and he got the he got the takedown and won
the match. He just kind of held on. But it
was that was crazy. So and then you know the
the optics with the saluting the President of United States
who happened to stay for the match. It was really cool.
So yeah, man, that was that was dope as my
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school so like that like that as well. But that
was a of the moments this weekend. That was the
best sports moment for me. What about you there? Uh, Jacetu,
you gotta find something nice to say about the weekend
because I know he got plenty of the j I'll.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Tell you what I loved. I loved that Danny Hurley
is finally getting the deserved criticism. I saw some pretty
influential voices on TV and on Twitter be like, are
we really going to normalize this behavior? You know, during
the election cycle and since the election, we've heard a
lot from one side of the political spectrum of we
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can't normalize wrong things, we can't continue to accept these things.
And I think with Danny Hurley, I'll reached that point
where we're like, are we really going to put up
with this guy being a douche after losses? So that
whole thing yesterday with the getting caught on Mike telling
the other team that the refs might screw you, blah
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blah blah. I actually watched the last five minutes of
that game, like, it wasn't the ref's fault that you
and your team choked away that game. Your team stopped
making shots, their team started making shots, And it just
struck me as like, we're gonna allow him to be
completely unaccountable for his team's actions towards the end of
that game. So I love that he got some criticism
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from people that actually matter overnight.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Uh, okay, let's get to what we hated. That's what
we loved, Dan, Do you have any more than you loved?
I told you, I give you ammal time. No, it's
totally okay, yep, all right, let's get to what you
hated from the weekend. Let's start with you, Jay Stewsonce
you're the resident hater, all right.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
So the uh, the NCAA tournament brackets are the most
unpredictable thing in the history of the world. I said
last week, it's unfair that people that do this for
a living, experts have to put their brackets online for
us to look at and scrutinize, and it inevitably takes
a little bit of a tear at their credibility when
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they get their brackets wrong. So if I'm going to
give you that grace, I also want to do this.
How about this. If you admit on the air that
you are a college basketball casual, you can't brag about
having fifteen of the sixteen teams remaining. You can't brag
about that you have lucked yourself into it. And man,
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I'm really fortunate that I just chose teams that won.
It's not a hey, take a look at my bracket.
Because you already said you're a casual. It was the
luck of the draw. So I hate people taking credit
for bracket victories after saying they're casuals.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Sam sent me hate it for the wickend.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
I think a lot of people were I clear my
throat there. I think a lot of people were had
hitch their wagons to the Saint John's Red Storm making
a deep run. I think this team's maybe with Patino
a little bit ahead of schedule, but you know, like
many I had Saint John's going pretty far.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
And so you hated that they lost.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
I hated that they lost. I hated it because I
think Patino in the NC Tournament is is always a
good thing.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
It's you know, it's cal Perry and the NCAA tourn
It is not a good thing.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
It is one had to eliminate the other. But I
think I think Patino's kind of the the mob boss
of of that uh, that family right there.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Like he's he does. He does have a Michael Corleoni
sort of look.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
I mean, like I think of cal Perry as being
sort of like a high ranking lieutenant. But like Patino's
up there, more national titles, you know, more fun you know, yes, yes,
Rhode Island. Yeah, it's kind of the backyard for the
uh some of those guys. So you know, their offense,
Saint John's offense. During the regular season, they they eked
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out a lot of grinder wins with defense and hustle
and and energy and and they were just shoot, they
just shot terribly in that game against Kentucky or excuse
me against uh against Arkansas, I was thinking about cal
Perry's old stomping grounds. So that's what I hated that
Patino's not in the tournament anymore. And it was a
great year for them, I mean, the conference champion, tournament champions,
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and regular season champions, and so lots to look forward
to for the red storm there if their fans are
certainly showed out.
Speaker 8 (25:07):
So Doug, because you were in with the hurt for
the Herd on Friday, we were in for you on Friday,
and we took this line and it means a lot.
And I think that's what Rick Bettina needs to remember.
Don't cry because it's over, Smile because it happened. That's
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what you need to realize. With what a great year
it was for Saint John's. So as much as Iowa
Sam may have hated to see this run come to
an end, what a run it was through the Big
East this season.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
You're here fair enough, fair enough? What about you there?
Dan Buyer said you hated it from the weekend.
Speaker 8 (25:47):
Well, okay, quick question as we look at this. Well,
first of all, Doug, I actually hated the buzzer beater
for Maryland. And this kind of piggybacks a little bit
of what Jason was talking about. He was talking about
bracket pools. I'm talking about survivor pools, because if you
were in a survivor pool for the NCAA tournament, there
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was a very good chance that the pool you were
in had a overwhelming number of people pick Maryland to
survive yesterday, and it would have turned Survivor pools upside down.
Everywhere was a four to twelve matchup. It's the way
you feel is the perfect, easiest recipe, but it would
have blown everything up for so many people, except the
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ones who stayed away from that game or maybe picked
New Mexico. But Doug, would we talk about people not
like being involved or not happy with upsets when you
partake in March Madness fun like a bracket that we
have always said is the reason why it's so popular.
Or you find other ways to enjoy it, whether it
be betting in Vegas or if your state allows you,
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or in Survivor pools and other things. Those games make
it great. My buddy texted me within sixty seconds of
Maryland's win, You're like, thank goodness, my Survivor entry is
still alive. And so there were a lot of people
who are in those sorts of pools and competitions that
were on both sides of it, and I think that's
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what makes it great. So I don't want to hear
anybody poop pooing. We don't have Cinderella. You make your
own fun. In the NCAA tournament, and that's what I'm
calling on people to do. So I hate it when
people poo poo the weekend that was. Yeah, it was
kind of a blonde, a little boring, but there's ways
that you can make it exciting for yourself.
Speaker 7 (27:34):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Okay, I'm gonna be critical of somebody who I consider
a friend and I think is really really good as job. Actually,
probably two somebodies in a second, but Mick Croton is
the head coach of the UCLA Bruins.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
Right.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
They were beaten by Tennessee in the second round of
the tournament, and they asked him about what everybody like.
By the way, John cal Perry acted like he didn't
know the Portal Open time, like stop it, what's the
Portal Open Monday? Huh? And we're still playing it like
you didn't know. Come on, dude, so actually let me go.
(28:12):
Let me go an older here. This was Kevin Willard
after their first round win. Uh, talking about something that
happened around Christmas time.
Speaker 9 (28:24):
And it took you guys three questions.
Speaker 10 (28:26):
I want to ask about the basketball too, But you know,
obviously your name has come up and as a candidate
for various positions because Maryland has done so well this year.
Have you felt compelled to address any of that with
your team at all about your future at Maryland.
Speaker 9 (28:43):
Yeah, I've I've addressed it with them directly.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
You know.
Speaker 9 (28:47):
I'll say this. This is Damon and I talked on
Sunday night, right before right before selection Sunday. He gave
me a term sheet right before selections. I really wasn't
focused on it, been focused on this team and this
Damon's talked to my agent. I talked to Damon this
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morning at length about where we are. Obviously, it's difficult
right now because I think we know his situation. He's
probably going to SMU, so it's kind of tough to
negotiate with somebody that's maybe not here. But I need
to make fundamental changes to the program. That's what I'm
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focused on right now. That's why probably a deal hasn't
got done because I want to see I need to
see fundamental changes done. I want this program to be great.
I want to be the best in the country. I
want to win a national championship. But there's things that
need to change. When you're at a place for three
years and you put your heart and soul into it,
you kind of say sit there and say, okay, wait
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a second. For us to be really successful, X, Y
and Z needs a change. And first and foremost, I
need to make sure that we are where we are
with NIL and REV share is not where we've been
with NIL in the past two years. We've been one
of the worst, if not lowest, in the NIL in
the last two years. So that's first and foremost. I
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also have to make a fundamental change where I can
do the things that I want to do with my program.
You know, I wanted to spend the NEXTRA night in
New York this year to celebrate Christmas with my team,
and I was told that we can't do that because
it's too expensive.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
All right, So that's that's Kevin Willard. And then this
is mc cronin after losing in the second round.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Do you start right right now? Guys, it's twelve forty
am and the season just ended. That's it. You're gonna
ask me about next year?
Speaker 7 (30:47):
Right now?
Speaker 6 (30:47):
My biggest concern is how bad the seats are on
the Allegiant flight, on that terrible plane that we're going
to have to fly home tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
That's one of us. The cheese the playing version of
the cheese.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
So again again, here's the deal. Mick makes four point
one million, Kevin makes somewhere in the same neighborhood. Like,
I get it. You're first of all, like I've flown
Allegiant it's notings I can add for Allegiant Airlines, right,
but openly complaining about some stuff when you know, I'm again,
(31:29):
I make way less money for coaching a team, and
we have not been successful. I'm you know, on the court.
But like you know, Chris Well, we have Thanksgiving dinner.
Bill came. We went to my country club, like instead
of fighting with the school over a couple thousand dollars, Bill,
I pick up the bill, right, and imagine if I
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made four million dollars. I just some of the things,
like McK cronin acting like he's not thinking about next year.
Of course you are. You meet a you meet usually
periodically once a month, just talk about your team with
your coaches, and then as you get closer to the
end of the season, you start talking about who's staying,
who's going. The disingenuous inness of it, like especially with Mick,
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who usually with his complaints, is as real as reel
as can be. So somebody asked him about next year. Yeah,
of course we're talking about it. You know, we gotta
fly home, then we gotta meet that's the process, have
exit meetings and then we'll figure out what's what. But
just the the constant complain, what are we really complaining about?
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What are we really complaining about?
Speaker 3 (32:37):
I'll stick up for Allegiance. They have direct flights from
LA to cedar Api, z Iowa. They're very affordable and
I utilize that in the last couple of summers. So
how about that. The seats are very uncomfortable, but I'm
getting what I pay for.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah, I mean the seats on Spirit are really uncomfortable.
But people in Spirit Airlines apparently getting fights. I haven't
seen a fight outside in the Legion Airline.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
I flew Spirit Airlines for the first time in years,
doing a direct flight from LA to Philly. Can't complain, honestly,
it was just just got it done. It takes off
at land on it like takes off in lands.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
It takes it takes off in land. You hope.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
I'd love to.
Speaker 8 (33:07):
I'd love to find somebody that isn't in first class,
that sits in any planning goes yes, this is where
it's at right.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Yeah, of course it's what it is.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Motor transportation. Dude.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
You know you greet your teeth and Barrett and just
want to get to where you're going, right.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Like, there's a lot tougher things than my charter flight.
Like say that out loud, My charter flights seats aren't
that comfortable. One more time, My charter flights seats aren't
that comfortable.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
To his point, you feel like your spine is imploding
in itself. But that's just part of doing business. One
hundred and fifty years ago, those people had to take
a wagon train.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
And that's love and hate.
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Stut gott Leap Show here on Fox Sports Radio. And
anyone who's played against his teams not surprised from the
times that his team's terrorized us when I was at
Oklahoma State to what he's done before and since. Calvin
Sampson is a Hall of Fame basketball coach and his
team's in the Sweet sixteen yet again and a favorite
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UH across all boards to reach the final fourties. Kind
of have to spend some time this year on Fox
Sports Radio. Coach, how are you going good?
Speaker 7 (34:24):
You're still one of the top point guards leading a
three on one, two on one, three two past break automatic.
You were going to find the right guy.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
We were definitely gonna get a buck in half court,
maybe not as much, and he didn't have to guard me.
So you paid an accurate, accurate, positive, positive picture. What's
your assessment of how your team played first weekend of
the tournament.
Speaker 7 (34:52):
Well, in the first game, it was all about mindset
and and maturity, making sure you're your leaders are out
and because you know every game is important, you know
you get the one sixteen. But our team has been
able to be good this year because of our player leadership,
(35:13):
and so I give a lot of credit to that
game to l J. Crier and uh J One Roberts.
Those two guys are unbelievable leaders. The then Zaga game
was a one of those games. When I saw the
brackets I saw in Zaga, Georgia said, well, it's Gonzaga
(35:34):
that's going to be a holy war mark. And the
Zaga program is there. Weren't bench smart programs in the
in the country. Over how many years. I mean they
went to night who goes to ninth straight sweet sixteen.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
At Gonzaga too.
Speaker 7 (35:53):
Yeah, unbelievable, And and they were playing their best basketball
when they put huffs at the four spot and that
means they started two fives yeah each kay and huffed
And then knew of them was going to be tough
because if you're having to double the post on both
sides of the floor, as good as them hart is
(36:13):
they were, they were going to be dangerous. So I
felt we were dialed into that game as well, played
really really good until the last two minutes and their
half court one three one trap gave us some problems.
But you know, when you get to the tournament, Dug
and you win a game, the last thing you want
to do is go backwards and analyze. You just survive
(36:36):
in advance and move on.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
I want to get to this year's team and this
week and this weekend. But like for people who I
don't know how many people in college basketball remember, but
before you got there, like Houston was a dead end job.
Speaker 11 (36:52):
It just was.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
It was friends and family only nobody went obviously back
when it was hoff Hinz, it was a decrepit old billuilding.
They threw a bunch of money into it. It's beautiful now,
but look, you you're a builder right from from Montana
Tech to Wazoo to Oklahoma. Wasn't great when you took
it over to Indiana when you took it over? What
(37:14):
has what has this build been like in comparison to
the others.
Speaker 7 (37:20):
I've enjoyed this one more because of Kellen and Lauren
being with me. You know, when I was with the
Houston Rockets and I got approached about this opportunity, you know,
my agent goes, okay, there's three report schools. This almost
to interview you. This wants to hire you. This one's
(37:42):
the press conference tomorrow. And that's how he was characterized
in all of them. But as the stars started aligning
a little bit, Kellyn had just been fired at Appalachians Stake.
You know, that's my son. I know what kind of
person he is. I know he's work as a I
(38:04):
know the kind of basketball mind he has. My daughter
Lauren was then a job where she was doing pretty good,
but it wasn't her willhouse that she's a little bit miserable,
and so I said, I told the athletics breaker at
the time, mac rhose. If you can find a way
(38:26):
to allow me to hire telling and then bring.
Speaker 11 (38:29):
Lauren in the next year, I think we can get
this done.
Speaker 7 (38:34):
So this one has been the most fun. I think
this one has been by far the hardest because of
the apathy, lack of support, just the general view of
what Houston basketball was. They were still attaching themselves to
fight Slamajamas and you.
Speaker 11 (38:56):
Know, almost forty years ago, so we didn't really have
a lot to.
Speaker 7 (39:02):
Build home, so we just started building. You know, sometimes
you inherit a winning program. Sometimes you got to build
a winning program, but been able to do it by
with my family and Karen here.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
You know.
Speaker 7 (39:16):
That's that's why this has been the best job I've
ever had, because I've you know, my my grandkids live
three miles away. I see my my two kids every day.
We go through this journey together and it's been just
a thrill of a lifetime for me. It's an unbelievable
way too. You know, obviously this is going to be
(39:38):
my last thoughts and when I decided to okay, that's it. UH.
I'll look back at my time at the University of
Houston as the UH as the UH best time in
my career?
Speaker 1 (39:51):
What will be the terminey factor? I mean, you know
how how it works when you when you become so
well respected, and you built it up to this point
and you have it perfectly set up for Kelen to
take over. You got to make that tough decision. What
will be the determined factor as to win you decide?
I'm not going to do this.
Speaker 7 (40:09):
Yeah, the fair question, and I really am not sure
even how to answer it. I do know that this
is very much a young man's a young man's time.
You know, I came up in the eighties and nineties,
and you know Judge Heathcote, I owe him so much
(40:33):
giving me opportunity to get started. And then Montana Tech
took a chance on a twenty five year old guy,
watching the state took a chance on a thirty one
year old guy. So I was pretty good at getting
hard jobs. But then again a lot of people had
to turn those jobs down for even got to me.
So but when I look back and then I look forward,
(40:57):
you always want to leave the place that you were
better shape, and obviously this one is. But I still
want to make sure that Kellen has been a position
where he's got a chance to win right away too.
So my plan, my plan is, I'm I'm definitely going
to coach on next season, and then you know, you
(41:21):
just never know. I mean, I may be here five
more years, I may be here four more years.
Speaker 11 (41:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (41:28):
I doubt it, but you never know. You do never know.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Kevin Sampson's our guest here on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, let's let's get to this weekend.
So now you know, Purdue a team that reputation wise
rugged Big ten, but no one has the defensive reputation
your team, your team has. What's what's the biggest challenge.
You've done the Sweet sixteen, You've done the Final four
(41:53):
so often. What's the biggest challenge for this group in
getting ready for Purdue.
Speaker 7 (42:00):
First of all, we respect your opponents. You forget what
other people saying things because that's irrelevant to your to
uh your mission. Our mission is to go play our
best brand of basketball art. You know, we have a
clear identity Doug on how we play. And I think
when you get in the tournament, sometimes the bright lights
(42:22):
and all the attention can chain some kids. And my
little Uzan had never played in the tournament. Now he's
got two games under his belt. I like the way
he handled the moment. So, you know, for us is
being good at the things we're good at. You can't
(42:44):
always assume you're going to shoot the ball great, you
can't always assume that you're going to get a great whistle.
Those are things that are out of your control. So
being able to you know, play defense and rebound, doing
doing the things this god is here. You know, We've
won a lot of road games on nights. Some nights
we shot it good, some nights we didn't, but we
(43:05):
always found a way to win the game. I think
that's been our identity. If you watch this early not
very good offensively, you watch this late a lot more
symmetry with our offense. Our spacing has been better, our
offensive rebounds, rebound has been a little bit more consistent
than the physical nature of the game. Last year we
(43:28):
played A and M in the second round in Memphis.
I think both teams went to the line fifty times
a piece, and we have four guys file out. But
that was a that was a tight whistle because back
of the game the other night was a little bit
of a looser whistle. So those are things that the
players don't worry about, but the old coaches do it
(43:49):
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
Yeah yeah, well coach, listen, it's not here to catch
up with you. We all watch and marvel at what
you're able to do, how hard they're able to compete,
and and I know this team is better offensively obviously.
You know, in the last year you had a tough
injury that really ended ended to run unfortunately. But best
of luck this weekend, and thanks so much for spend
some time with us.
Speaker 7 (44:11):
Always always good to be with you, Doug. And that's
the luck to you in year two.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
Oh well, we're gonna we're gonna need it, but I
appreciate That's Kelvin Samson, head coach of the Koogs of Houston.
I will point this out. And did you guys watch
the end of the Maryland Colorado State game? Where did
Jay stew Were you watching? I know by you were
watching that, I'm sure were you working at the time.
(44:37):
I'm trying to get my time of what it was
because I'm in Green Bay and so it was dark outside.
Were you on air Buyer during the end of the.
Speaker 8 (44:44):
Maryland No, I did the show with Mike Harmon yesterday.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
Yes, okay, So did you happen to catch the end
of it? Yes, okay. I want to make sure, like
I don't want to speak at it at a term,
it was a really that was a fun game to watch,
really competitive, and at the very end of the game,
at the very end of the game, Colorado State gets
(45:09):
a huge three from Jalen Lake. And Jalen Lake, it's
only interesting because he's actually spent four years at Colorado State.
You're like, wait, what you know? It's like the Beta max.
They still make you, only to be outdone by a
kid named Derek Queen who's star freshman center for Maryland.
(45:32):
Derek Queen is a tremendous player. Sixteen a game, sixteen
and nine gonna be a Birst round pick. And there's
a couple different parts to it. First, here's let's just
get the thoughts really quick of Maryland's head coach Kevin Willard,
who said this about the decision to get Derek Queen
(45:55):
the ball at the end of the game. I asked everybody,
I said, who wants the ball? And he said, give
me the MF ball. And I said you're getting it,
and I said don't mess around, go after it and
do it. And I give a lot, right, man, the
big dog came up and throw all right, so that
that part of it is awesome, awesome, right, give me
the ball and he goes and gets a bucket and
(46:18):
he caught it basically top of the key. Squeepes goes
to his left hand and shoot said kind of runner,
pull up off his right foot with a bank shot,
and that's what. It's a hard shot. It was good defense,
even better offense. And I think it was over Cam
Heidie Cameron Heidi, who played last year for Produce. So
I mean it's like he's going against a high level defender.
(46:41):
And what happens on social media is that's a travel.
That's a travel They CBS, trots G or maybe it
was TNT. I don't remember watching all the networks. Right,
Jeane's sterotor comes out. Jean Sterritor is there, what's the term?
He's their official and the rules analysts or something, right,
(47:05):
and Jeans of course from NFL ref but also college
basketball ref. And he's like, yeah, I mean I don't
really see a travel there, like you know it. He
kind of explains the gathering rule whatever and yet even
to today, like if you want to peruse into social media,
you get people like it is to travel, I thought
Nico medved he was like, I don't know, I didn't
call it, so it's not a travel like I even
(47:27):
he hadn't even seen even thought about it. And there's
a couple of different parts too. Here's the first important
part when you travel, if a guy travels, especially the
guy with the basketball travels. First of all, when you
look at the bench, usually the opposing bench is all
going to be doing the traveling symbol, right, and there'll
be people in the crowd doing the travel travel thing.
(47:49):
I didn't see any of that. Also, when you if
you're Dare Queen and you travel, it's a lot like
when you misspeak or you yet you're syntaxes off in
the English language. It just feels weird, is it is?
Or are I'm always confused? Right, if you use the
wrong tense or you know the wrong pronoun, you use
(48:12):
the wrong verb, you use these like, it feels weird.
Traveling is much the same way you play basketball. And
Derek Queen's a young kid thing, he's like nineteen years old,
so he's been playing basketball probably for I don't know,
twelve years, ten twelve years, like, you get it, And
if he traveled, it would have felt weird and he'd
be like, eh, yeah, i'll count it. None of that happened.
(48:32):
But the bigger thing is we've become these we've become.
This is who we've become, and I get it. We
wanted upset so badly Cairod State felt like an upset
against Maryland, right that you'll do anything to point out
the flaws in something great. And again, it doesn't mean
(48:56):
we need it to be artificial. We don't need it
to be like you know, he gets the ball and
he runs five or six steps and then everybody stops
is like what the heck? And then he lays the
ball in. You had the rules analysts say it wasn't
a travel. He had no one in the stands or
on the Colorado States bench doing the travel symbol. It
(49:16):
may have left a little different to you because he
jumped off his right foot and the gather wasn't until
it was. I mean, was it technically maybe close? Okay?
This is like Jordan's push off of Brian Russell, like
what are we really doing? Why have we found the
need to find flaw in everything. This is the Sidney
(49:38):
Crawford has a mole. I'm aware Sidney Crawford has a mole.
Have any of you who point out Sidney Crawford has
a mole? Been like, if Sidney Crawford wants to go
out with you, You're like, I don't know, she's got
a mole. No, I'm just not in the like moles
creep me out. I can't stop staring at them. No,
you're going out with Sidney Crawford. And I know the
(49:59):
Sidney Crawford referen might be a little bit too old, right,
but Sydney Crammer, by the way, is still hot. I
don't think anybody would still point out she's like sixty
and she's still amazing. So we have to stop this.
We have to stop finding flaw or controversy or a
conspiracy in literally everything. Derek Queen just made a really,
(50:24):
really hard shot. Marylynd's gonna move on. It sucks. If
you were super invested into Colorado State basketball for the
last weekend, or if you followed this team all year,
it's been a really cool story. But I mean even
the opposing coach was not like it was a blatant
(50:44):
travel whatever they got away with it. It's like I
don't know, right, So I just how do we become
those people?
Speaker 7 (51:03):
Dan?
Speaker 1 (51:04):
Did you did you think it was a blatant travel?
Speaker 2 (51:06):
No?
Speaker 3 (51:07):
I didn't think it was a travel at all.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
Right, I love it? Yeah, I mean you have you
have the rules analyst, a guy who's officiated final fours,
but like you didn't see much anything there. But you're like, no, no,
I I know, I'm right, Like, no, you don't. You
don't actually know how the rule is officiated. I just
(51:32):
I don't know what to do with people like that.
It'd be one thing if he was like, yeah, you know,
it's kind of close, but you don't call in that
spot and there's some arguing, but he was like, no
that I don't even see a travel there. But that's
who we become. We've become that obnoxious guy that's sitting
there going like she's too skinny, Like, dude, she would
(51:56):
you would never be able to ask her out ever
in your life. Yeah, but she's just she's it's too
skinny
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