May 7, 2025 • 48 mins
On a Wednesday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug talks about the Warriors stealing game one against the Timberwolves, and Buddy Hield's mishap with his game shorts. Doug shares his own story of his mishap.
Doug welcomes long-time Cowboys writer and podcaster Matt Mosely onto the show to talk about the George Pickens deal.
On this installment of The Midway, Doug and the crew share their theories on why we have had so many late comebacks and choke jobs in these NBA playoffs.
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Speaker 2 (00:53):
Are you? Are you? We got a lot to get to.
I like this Chris Finch story. Hmm.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I think I want to start with the Wolves getting
beaten badly by the Warriors, and the Warriors didn't have
Steph Curry much of the game when he played thirteen
minutes and won't have him for Game two. And yet
I think as much as we'd like it to be
about the Warriors and how great they were defensively, we
(01:31):
also need to point out that maybe some of it
was that Anthony Edwards and the and the Wolves weren't
ready to play.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Don't believe me. Here's Chris Finch, the head coach of
the Wolves, talking about his young star.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Starts with Anthony.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
You know he I thought he's was you know, he
struggled early and then you could just kind of see
the light go out a little bit for a while,
and then you know, obviously we had to try to
get him going in the second half. But I think,
you know, it was one of those games where kind
of came out with the predetermined mindset that he was
trying to do, and just rather than just playing a
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game that was in front of him, what is there
to talk about? I mean, you're they're they're the leader
of the team, and you got to come out and
set the tone. You know, in all ways that that happens,
and if it's if your shots not going like you
you still have to carry the.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Energy, you know.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
So I don't think there's if I got to talk
to guys about having the right energy coming into opening
around game, opening the second round game. Then you know
we're not you know we're not on the same page.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
So Stug Gottleeb Show here on Fox Sports Radio, I
think here's where you go from star to superstar, and
here's what differentiates guys. And I think some of it
for Anthony Edwards was like, look, I love the celebration
after you beat the Lakers. I love walking the streets
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of LA and talking talking trash. I think that is awesome,
truly really awesome. But it's just a first round series. Dude,
you didn't win the NBA championship and you have to
act like which you have.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Been there before.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
So there's a little bit of the hey, you know,
there's a lot more basketball to be played. The second
part to it is can you play well when you're
not playing well? And there's a difference. And the reason
that I was never a big mellow guy not because
Carmelo Anthony. There's probably a five year stretch there when
he was the best scorer in the league. Three level
scorer obviously better than the mid range, which is kind
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of died off, but he could really score, but could
Carmelo Anthony do anything to help your team when he
wasn't scoring. The answer was no, and Anthony Edwards at
some point could be described as such, Right, if you're
not making shots, what else can you do? Whereas we
saw Steph Curry and I don't think Steph Curry affects
the game defensively like he should, like the best of
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the best of the best of the best do. But
Game seven against the Rocket, Steph Curry wasn't scoring, and
yet he still had great effect on the game.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Great effect on the game.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Uh, here's Jimmy Butler and Buddy Heal. They had this
exchange after the game.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Draymond declared that tonight Jimmy became Batman and Buddy went
from Alfred to Robin. Do you guys have any comments
on that declaration.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
No, I'll start out.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I'll start out.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
No no, no, no, no, no no no. I'm Batman today.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
I saved today. He's still robbing, all right, Well I'm
still robbing, yes, and Steph still Batman and uh, buttered
is still who he is. So he had another good game, man,
except for that stupid thing you did at the beginning
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of the game.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
When you have on the right shorts.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
It's not real Robin and or Batman.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Like fuddy, what happened with the wardrobe malfunctions?
Speaker 6 (04:54):
Jimmy stretched out, that's Jimmy fall okay, Jimmy, and that's
what happens.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I was looking at my shorts and I thought it
the right When he said, yo, put these on, it.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Was right, and that was that's that's what you're going with.
Speaker 6 (05:07):
Yeah, I'm going on, Jimmy is Jimmy faul is the
lockers next to my locker.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I was looking at my shorts. He said, Joe, I
can't have on my shorts.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
Oh see there, And I put them on a look
just alike.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
And after that that all fine for it.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
So is cool.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
It was Jimmy fault leam Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Uh, pretty funny back and forth. Well, you're listening to
the only guy in America that has had a similar
type of wardrobe malfunction. He had the practice shorts on,
not the game shorts on, right, so he had to
run back into the locker room and Jay Stu, I
know this is a big thing. It's been a big
thing for all of us. It's see, this is what
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happens when you're wearing your non traditional uniforms. Right, they're
wearing their black road uniforms, and those were black shorts.
It wasn't terribly noticeable unless you were actually looking really
really close. But if you had one set, normal set
of uniform that looked very just different than your practice uniforms,
this would never happen.
Speaker 7 (06:02):
Correct, That was my point. And you telling me that
that was a practice shorts, that's news to me. I
thought this was like the shorts of another alternate uniform
that they that he had in his locker room. So
it makes a little bit more sense now. I want
to I want to, I want to go back to
your situation. You had put your shorts on backwards and
then you put your sweats on and it was in
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the middle of the game or before the game. How
did that come to be?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Again?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Uh, we're playing at Kansas. This is in March of
nineteen ninety nine, so twenty six years ago. It was
senior night for the Jayhawks.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
We were that year.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
We had gotten into the habit it started the year
before of flying in the day of the game. All
our guys liked it, so we flew intoating it.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
Well.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Because of weather, we had to land in Kansas City.
Because we land in Kansas City, we didn't have a
shoot around time, so we got in early to Lawrence
for the game. By early, I mean I think we
we you know, landed I would say noon or one o'clock,
and then we busted over from Kansas City to Lawrence,
which is like, you know, we landed downtown because we
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were on private not at MCI, which is way up
north in the boondocks. And you know, let's say we
got to I think we got to Lawrence at like one,
went to a hotel and had a pregame meal and
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then took a nap, and then the game, you know
big Monday games back then, we're like eight o'clock starts.
So instead of getting there at I don't know, seven thirty,
maybe we're there at seven. I mean instead again there
at six thirty, we were there at six or maybe
instead again there at seven, were there at six thirty.
We got like a half hour extra time to shoot
because we didn't have shoot around that day because of
the travel and whatnot. So when we would get to
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the gym, a teammate of mine, his name is Adrian Peterson,
needs to third all time leading score at Oklahoma State History.
He and I would often like kind of race, like
neither of us taped to go warm up or whatever.
And so we get there, throw on our shorts, not
put on our jerseys, just put on back. Then I
wore a ribbed white tea underneath my jersey. I think
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we all know what the ribbed white tea is. Somehow
the sarcastic nickname of that is somehow offensive. I'm not
really sure how, but regardless, So throwing the rib white tea,
then throwing the shooting shirt over it, throw on my shorts,
you know, and I had, like there were these gray.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Undershorts that people used to work. Everybody called them grays.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I put my grays on over my underwear, and then
over that was my shorts, and then over the shorts
was my you know, the the tear away short, tearaway pants.
And so then when it you come back for game time,
you'd come back in and after you know, the first time,
after the first time you'd warm up, you'd throw on
your actual jersey, put the jersey on over the rid
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wide t then put the shooting shirt back on. So
now you have shooting shirt and tear away sweats in
the bottom, and so I again, I never really looked
at my shorts. I had tear away sweats on over
the shorts ever since I put those shorts on. That's
my It's not excuse, that's the explanation. And then you know,
you get caught. You starting lineup, you're in the game.
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I actually believe or not, had come out of the
game and come back into the game, and no one
on our bench had noticed it or said anything. And
we're at the free throw line and they started yelling
shorts on backwards, shorts and it sounded like shirts on backwards.
So I looked at my shirt and like, no, I'm good.
And then I kind of looked over my right shoulder
and saw that the OSU was on my right hamstring
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and realized what I had done. We called time out,
switched the shorts around. Good to go, what's it? There
you go, There you go? But wolves not ready to play.
Anthony Edward tremendous, great talent. But to be a great player,
you gotta be be able to play well when you're
not playing well.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
He could not. And how about the Warriors able to
do it mostly without Steph most slyly that's stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Plus we had the Pacers winning after being down seven
with under a minute left, and for the second consecutive night,
a team up three with under ten seconds to go
fouls intentionally and loses the game at home.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
At home.
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Midway.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Okay, for Midway topics today. By the way, I knew
what I wanted to talk about, Dan, It was Gabe Davis,
just like you want to talk about a guy who
had he had such a good year with the Bills
and he goes to the Jags that clearly did not work.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
One and done.
Speaker 9 (12:10):
There.
Speaker 10 (12:10):
Yeah, new coach, new regime. Youve got Travis Hunter now
there to go along with Brian Thomas. So yeah, sometimes
it just doesn't work out.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Just sometimes it doesn't work out.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Okay, do you guys have a theory on why there
have been so many comebacks here, especially in the NBA playoffs?
You want some are choke jobs, some are just old
fashioned comebacks. Some are a little bit in the middle, Like,
what's a working theory that you have? I have one
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more hypotheses, right, because the theory is one that's proven.
Go ahead, go ahead, Jason.
Speaker 7 (12:47):
So uh, you know, we talk about all the time
the uh NBA's effort to try to get players engaged
during the regular season. We got the NBA Cup, we
got the All Star Shenanigans, and then we go out
this stupid play in tournament. All is an effort to
get interest from the players to play harder. They mask
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it as a gift to the fans, but it's actually
a way to get the players to play harder, to
be engaged, to be competitive. Well, what happens when you
have an unengaged set of young players that aren't competitive
during the regular season and then they get into these
ball the butt squinching moments in a playoff game when
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it really matters. The guy that I don't know the
name of Dan will know. You'll know whoever threw the
inbounds pass to the pacer last night. That was the
end of the game.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Again, that was a chick again. We just talked about it.
It did it again like.
Speaker 7 (13:43):
Two nights ago. What happened at the end of the
game with with with Holmegrin. That's a choke. These guys
are not in moments like this at all ever, and
they're not engaged. The regular season doesn't matter, they're not practicing.
So who are doing well in these moments Jimmy Butler
and Haller Burton, guys that have done it before. Olympians. Uh.
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I think that's part of the reason for these like
unprecedented level of choke jobs.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Sam, do you have it? Do you have a theory
on that?
Speaker 10 (14:20):
I dan you you go ahead, I've got yeah, because
it's it does I don't know if it piggybacks, I
don't know if it rides shotgun to it. But I
feel I feel it's the officiating and and I feel
that there's a couple of different factors at work.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
I think that Jason's right.
Speaker 10 (14:37):
In a normal regular season game, when the Calves go
up seven on the Pacers, the Pacers may just go
down and they don't get a bucket. It's game over.
Let's run the shot clocked down. Sure, even at seven
points that I'm like, we are not going to make
a furious comeback. Let's but it's different in the playoffs,
and I think that there is something to that. I
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also feel the officiating because we've seen a lot of
turnovers on pressure last night, in other scenarios where I
feel that we're seeing turnovers because guys are hesitant, I
don't think officials are making the foul calls in those scenarios.
And on the flip side of it, you know the
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Haliburton three point play last night, there are a couple
of three point play opportunities we've seen throughout the playoffs.
We know NBA officials, they love to be up in
the business and if there's a big play to be
able to call that basket and a foul, and I
feel that that has happened at times. I don't know
if all of these. I mean, Karl Anthony Town's got
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mugged a few times in Boston in Game one, but
it wasn't in the clutch.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
It wasn't with seconds.
Speaker 10 (15:48):
Remaining, or the knicks down four and maybe changing momentum,
and you can call one, but they're calling them in
those situations, a touch foul, a late whistle, allowing the
games to be closer.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
And so when when one side and I'm not saying
it's the pacers. I'm saying.
Speaker 10 (16:06):
It feels like the team that's ahead isn't getting a
whistle when they're trying the inbound and the team that's
behind is. I think that that's why you've seen it,
and I feel like I've seen it multiple times in
these NBA playoffs, not only in the first round, but
also in a couple of games here in the second round.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
I agree with you guys in terms of it, and
this is like a it's a real thing in terms
like practice, right when you can't replicate, you can't replicate
the intensity of the NBA Playoffs.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
You can't replicate like.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
All of these breakdowns and inbounds passes have been when
the team doesn't have a timeout and it's like they've
never played. It's like suddenly they forgotten how to play
basketball when you don't have a timeout to advance the ball.
I would also say, though, that there's just some weird stuff.
I mean, three two nights in a row, a team
up three, fowls up three and loses both those games
in regulation.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
That hard to do. It feels like a things that
go bump of the night.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yet it happened. Why do I think it happens. I
think Jason, you're pretty much on it. It's that the
attention to detail is just not great in the regular
season and it matters so much. And comebacks are so
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normal in the regular season. They shouldn't be in the postseason,
but they are. I'll also tell you that it's the
reason the twenty four second shot clock is brilliant, because
you look up and you're like, well, this game's over.
You're like, no, Actually, if you look at it with
two and a half minutes, there's plenty of time, plenty
of possessions. But again, some of it's the NBA's rules,
and some of it is how these NBA teams use
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the rules, Like if you have a ten point league,
but two and a half to go, like you every
shot you take, every shot you take should be as
the shot clock expires, unless you're unless you have a
wide open layup or a wide open three as the
shot clock expires. Teams don't run clock the way they can,
even within twenty four second shot lite. So I think
it exposes some of the lack of IQ of the players,
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the lack of intensity of the regular season, and also
the skill in the shot making of NBA teams, and
that you know, if it's two possessions, they can make
it up really quick with two shots. All of those
threes that people hate that they take, they love it
when they take them and make them in comebacks.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
What about you there, Sam? What do you think?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
I think Sam passed.
Speaker 7 (18:32):
I think the reason why I thought about this today
is because so during the transition between games last night,
when Stan Van Gundy's crew took over for the Pacers game,
he was asked this question, how do you account for this?
And his answer was something along the lines of the
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game has changed so much, so fast. Yeah, and all
the three pointers, and then he didn't expound on that.
I'm like, I need to hear the more, like what
does that mean exactly? Do you understand what he means?
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yeah, just you could make up points so much quicker,
and guys are so used to shooting it, you know,
they're not panic shots anymore.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
So Yeah, And I and I think also with.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
It comes this idea that you know, you're, okay, hey,
we can't give up a three, and so then somebody
shot fixed and they'll get wide open laps, like wait,
you fought for forty six and a half minutes to
not give up any buckets and now you're just gonna
give up lamps. I do think the three point shot
changes how you guard, chase a space the floor, and
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then offensively, there's just an ease to it and an
understanding of it where it's it's not like it's not
a miracle, and guys.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Get very confident shooting them. But it's true. No lead
is safe in the NBA.
Speaker 10 (19:51):
None, well zero, it's and I'll say this about the pacers.
I'll give Tyre's Halliburton credit that. And when he attacked
the basket, there were fifteen seconds left on the clock
or neighborhood maybe give or take, and he's still going
for a two, like you know in that scenario. Now
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he got fouled, so he had two shots because he
didn't make the basket, but they didn't panic in essence
of even if Halliburton makes the two, and I don't
think he I don't think he purposely missed unless there
was a post game. Again, it was my anniversary last night,
so I didn't hear. If he did purposely miss, it
was a great miss and the caves didn't have a
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lot of size on the floor aside from Jared Allen.
Then it obviously worked out to their advantage, but I
felt like he went to the basket and were willing
to then foul again and do what they needed to
do on the next possession if it played out that way.
But they didn't panic in that scenario. They did it
against the Bucks. We saw the Bucks in their Game
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five just give it away with a couple of bad turnovers,
and we saw how frantic those situations were.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
We saw Oklahoma City.
Speaker 10 (21:01):
You bring that scenario up and inbounding and how you
play that scenario and just getting the ball to the
right person or Chet Holmgren's case, the wrong person at
that time.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Yeah, a lot of that.
Speaker 7 (21:16):
Remember we talked the other day about this and Dan
said that, like one of the reasons people like watching
college sports or college basketball is because it's flawed. And
I the point that I think I was trying to
make is that these games are not being one because
of great play. They're being one because of brain farts
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and gripping it too tight when it matters most.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
So it's almost like you don't think Halliburton that was
a great play, Like he gets the offensive rebound, Like, yeah,
you can absolutely point to the cabs, Hey, you got
a box out in this free throw.
Speaker 7 (21:50):
He never gets to that play though, if the guy
imbounds the pass, yeah is fair.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
He's one hundred percent correct.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
But again, I do think there's a skill in some
of the shot making and in these comebacks. And you know,
hacking Aaron Gordon, Yeah, chet Holgrin choked two free throws.
Aaron Gordon still made the three. Otherwise there is no
that doesn't matter. So you're right, I'm not Again, this
is not me saying it wrong. I do think that
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we have a tendency to I mean, any of these
great shots down the stretch, for the most part, historically
comes back from a miss free throw. You know, it's
like we think about this all the time. How many
times have we been watching playoff baseball or or even
regular season baseball and a late inning comeback that ends
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in a home run? How does the rally usually start
chase two a walk? Yes, it almost always starts with
a walk, right, And so when if you're going to
do the post mortem on a great comeback or a
walk off home run, yeah, you can mention the walk.
But we do have a tendency to focus on like
can you believe that guy hit a walk off home run,
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and we don't point out the negative of the walk
Whereas here in basketball, instead of pointing out the Tyrese
Haliburton shot which would be the home run, or the
Aaron Gordon shot, which would be the home run, we
point out the negative first. Hey, plays really not that good?
When this is kind of how it's always been. It's
like Keith Smart's jump shot on the baseline for Indiana
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to beat Syracuse in the nineteen eighty seven National Championship game. Uh, Dan,
you and I weren't old enough to truly remember it,
but I'm guessing you remember what preceded that jump shot?
Speaker 9 (23:44):
Oh was it?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Well? Yeah, did mister Syracuse knows?
Speaker 7 (23:47):
Was it?
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Derek Coleman? Was he at the line?
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah, Derek Coleman missed a front end of a one
in one, and Keith Smart comes down. They passed around,
he shoots a fade or he sees a leaner on
the on the left base line, and wins the game.
No one goes back and says, like, oh, Derek. Some
people still think Derek Coleman choked, and he probably did
at nineteen years old. But when we look back, we
look at the shot, not the miss that proceeded. Yet
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here in the NBA we're focusing on, Hey, you didn't
box out, he didn't box out. I guess I'm sounding
like I'm defending it, but I'm really just trying to
tell the whole.
Speaker 7 (24:23):
No, what you're saying is like, if the mishap ends
the game, then that's the takeaway. Bill Buckner's mishap ended
the game. Chris Weber's timeout ended the game, so there
was no great shot or a base hit after you
know Buckner's play. But you're saying that there was a
game winning shot to be made and these guys stepped
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up and made it. So two things could be true.
Speaker 10 (24:46):
Yes, yes, yes, I think I think these whistles though
they they really they want drama.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
They do, yeah, but they always have.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Man, the NBA is this is I swear, And I'll
also point this out, like where has it been dramatic?
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Dan Byer? Yes, okay, are we fair to say that?
I know it doesn't have the ratings.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
I'm not saying it's as popular, but the NBA playoffs
have been better than the NFL playoffs today.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
This year, this year alone been unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
The watch is unreal, like the Knicks come from twenty
down to beat the Celtics in Boston. This whole Pacers
run has been crazy, how they beat the Bucks in
their final game, the two wins here, especially this win
last night Nick Pistons was an awesome watch, super super competitive.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
So the point is that you want to.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Talk about these two things can be true, Jay stew
And you're right, NBA basketball like Major League Baseball, I
think is actually better that it's been just reputation wise,
the numbers don't reflect as much, don't reflect much.
Speaker 10 (26:08):
I don't know if it fits in our window. But
Shay Gil just Alexander made his free throws, chet Holmgrin
did not. Tyre's Halliburton's been making these clutch shots for
the Pacers. Jalen Brunson's been magnificent. I think also in
certain spots when we're looking at this of last night,
(26:29):
I think was it Max Strus who made the inbounds
pass with the bad pass? Just getting your ball to
the guy that needs to have the ball is half
the battle. For some reason, teams can't figure it out.
You know, Cleveland, after the Pacers cut it to three,
used their final time out and then advanced the ball
and they still couldn't inbound it. And I don't know
(26:52):
if that's on Kenny Atkinson. I don't know it's on
Donovan Mitchell. I don't know if it's on the injuries
that other guys aren't in the game, but.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
It's it's on It's really on the inbounder. You got
to get that baone bounce, So you gotta get the
bone mounts rule number one. And for any play, any
play you run in basketball, the most important aspect of
an OBI play. A sideline bounce is a slop sideline
out of bounds.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
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the midway.
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Speaker 1 (27:47):
Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio, uh Dan byer. Have
you seen the Utah mammoths new unif the uniforms which
have made its way on social media, which the announced today.
Speaker 10 (28:03):
Yeah, so the team colors are the same from what
they had this past season. But yes, I've seen the logos,
seen seen the tusks up for the Utah Mammoth starting
play next year.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Are you? I mean you are a resident beautiful critic.
Speaker 10 (28:18):
So the Mammoth mascot goes to the obviously the prehistoric days,
if you will, mammoth fossils found in Utah a bit
of a stretch, but hey, whatever whatever works for him.
I don't mind the color. I think it's a I
don't love the black, but I think the blue is fine.
(28:40):
I love the logo. And if you look at the
Mammoth logo, it's got some hidden things in there, Easter
eggs if you will, you can see the state of Utah.
And i think they did a really good job with
the logo. I'm just happy that they're not staying Utah
Hockey Club.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
So I'm looking I'm looking at the I'm looking at
the logo and for people who haven't seen it, okay,
it looks like the first glance you're like, oh, I
see the tusk, and I see the the.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
What is it called on a mammothist stout?
Speaker 3 (29:11):
The sure?
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (29:14):
And then you see the eyes and looks fairly fierce.
And then you're like, wait a second, I see mountains.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yep, not in the mountains?
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Wasatch mountains?
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Wasatch mountains? Where is the state of Utah in there?
Speaker 10 (29:25):
So if you look on the left, yeah, upper left
hand of the logo at an angle is the state
the state of Utah outline.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
It's like the silhouettes.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Yeah, yes, I see that. Clever, clever, clever. What else?
What are the other Easter eggs in there?
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Oh?
Speaker 10 (29:46):
I noticed the Utah one when I saw renderings of
it previously. The someone said that the tusk is the
shape of a U for the state of Utah. See
that and see that as well. That the M on
the bottom of the state of Utah that we have
is for the mammoth as well.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Oh okay, yep, okay, I like it.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
What about the actual uniforms themselves, and the and the gear,
You're okay with all that? Like, I don't know if
it matters.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Yeah, I'm I'm not.
Speaker 10 (30:19):
I'm not a huge hockey sweater guy, I like the
one with the mammoth on it as opposed to the
one that just is says Utah, Yes, correct, it's it's
better when you have more letters, when you do the diagonal,
like with Rangers, University of Wisconsin where's There's where it
has Wisconsin down that way. When you only have four letters,
it doesn't work as well.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
And which team is this that? What was this?
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Originally Phoenix Coyotes, that was.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
The Phoenix Couties that we used to be the Winnipeg
Jets that became the Rhoenix Cooties and now is the
Utah menmoth.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
And the current Winnipeg Jets were the Atlanta Thrashers.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Right, every pretty good sure stuck out leap show here
on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
There's something you were saying by her. It was it
was a football thing that I wanted to.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Get to Pickens deal.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
No, obviously I want to start to start talking about
the Pickens deal. But yeah, Pickens for Dickens and a
sixth for a third to fifth? Is it feels like
please take them off our hands?
Speaker 2 (31:20):
It just does.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
And part of it is, obviously I know he's gonna,
you know, want a new deal. Part of it is
it's kind of been a pain the aster in his
fresh and they're in his rookie deal. And you wonder, like, again,
if it's fantasy football on paper, Pickens on one side
and Ceedee Lamb on the other side, it's great, But
there's a lot of ego in that room, A lot
(31:44):
of ego in that room.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Did I mention there's a lot of ego in that room?
Speaker 10 (31:48):
Then they're gonna need a lot of offense too, And
I think that's kind of what they're they're aiming on,
just try to maybe outscore people.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Yeah, well that let's ask Matt Mosley. He he would
know better than us. Matt Mosley hosts The Doomsday Podcast
columnists for Fox Sports. Of course, he's done his own
radio show as well, covering the among other things, the
Dallas Cowboys and Matt, we didn't see much movement from
the Cowboys all off season.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Now, this what's your reaction?
Speaker 9 (32:19):
You know, this is what Jerry doug has been hinting
at for a while. We thought he was just talking
trying to drum up a little draft interest, but he
was trying to make something happen. And a lot of
times when people start doing all the goofiness of trying
to break news and people that don't normally break news.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
This is his talk.
Speaker 9 (32:39):
But then last night it started heating up, and so
I just find it funny that I mean, I think
it's a good deal for the Cowboys. Actually both teams
probably works out because I think Tomlin was probably sick
of Pickens and the way he acted on the field especially,
and the last memory I have of him is like
playing against the cow Boys and fighting Jordan Lewis on
(33:02):
the field. And I mean again, but this team is
known for having wide receivers like George Pickens, who will
either get in fights on the field or on the
sideline or constantly chirping, and so they're at least sort
of used to this. Now it's brilliant if he truly
will take the opinion of coming in here and like
(33:25):
playing for his next contract and sort of using this.
But now if they're expected to put some kind of
great deal together for him, if he's expecting something like that,
he and his agent, then they come to the wrong place.
Because the Cowboys love to make people wait until the
last second. They don't get things done. They're not proactive
on contracts. So if he's got that sort of attitude,
(33:48):
but if he's got the attitude of like this is
a prove it type season, then I think both sides
have come to a good place.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Yeah, you nailed it right. It's did.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Steelers are all about culture. He didn't fit their culture.
The Cowboys are trying to be all about players, and
he's a player can make plays. Now the question is
can they make it work? You know questions they can
they make it work? What is the true outlook for
this Cowboys team? Now they've added George.
Speaker 9 (34:18):
Pickens, Well, they still, you know, have some question marks
at running back, which has become an annual thing. You know,
maybe they can find an aging back they can bring in.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
They love that.
Speaker 9 (34:29):
They love to get about a thirty year old guy
who's broken down and get him back there and see
what he can do. But they actually have some decent veterans.
And then that Jaden Blue that they got from Texas.
Obviously I've seen him play a lot because of where
I'm from, and he is dynamic, good pass catcher, great speed,
all of that. So who knows he may emerge as
(34:51):
kind of the next Tony Pollard so to speak. Who
was pretty good for them for a brief amount of time.
I think it's really going to come down to how
this O line shakes out. And we've got everybody you
know talking about like they've assembled the line, like they've
gone back to the days of Nate Newton and that bunch,
you know, and Larry Allen. I think that's a little
(35:12):
a little early to that party. But I would say
that like if that Tyler gotten from Ou by way
of TCU, if he can actually play and play left tackle,
then they may assemble. Because this new guy from Alabama
means business. The Tyler Booker Tyler Smiths are really good players,
so I mean they could have the makings of a
(35:35):
pretty good offensive line. So I think I would say
I have changed their trajectory to and again, they now
have the Super Bowl camps and another great team, So
they've gone from sort of being back and forth with
the Eagles on an annual basis to now having two
teams in the division you know, that are really good.
(35:57):
So I think everybody would think they're probably the third
team heading in. So I probably the ceiling for this
thing would be ten wins. I think if everything goes right,
this is a about a ten and seven team and
what you know, we'll see if that makes the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Has that ever been a Jerry Jones team that people
actually thought ten and seven is a good thing?
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Well, no, no, but I.
Speaker 9 (36:25):
Think based on last season and how disappointing and how
some of the I think I think it would come
across as like a real bounce back, and I think
it would be a great place for the Schottenheimer era
to begin. And well, you can't imagine the feel good
story this is around here. It's like everybody at first
(36:47):
was real mad and like, what in the world, what
is this higher? But I've actually been out there, spent
time around him, these rookies and like in the building,
and like it's a whole different sort of approach now.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
I can Yeah, because he changed their chairs. That's what
he did.
Speaker 9 (37:02):
He had the ing sarcastic and I understand that that's
what you do.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
And you know what, yeah, you didn't if it if okay,
let me just ask you this.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Matt Moseley is our guest here Doomsday Podcast covering the
Dallas Cowboys. This is Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox
Sports Tradio. Let me just let me just ask you
right now. Okay, so let's say, who's the What am
I forgetting? Who's the coach of the of the Commanders.
He's doing a really good job. I know Cliff does
the offense. It's he used towboy qui. Okay, So had
(37:35):
Dan Quinn gone into the Commanders last year and said, hey, everybody,
get up and change your seat, you would have spent
a good portion of your show going what are.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
We doing here?
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Right?
Speaker 9 (37:48):
Like?
Speaker 2 (37:48):
What are we doing here? Cowboys? Yeah? Oh yeah, there's
a breath of fresh air. Everybody just changed their their seats.
Speaker 9 (37:58):
I mean, that's not really I'm basing it on. I
would I have written on the old Moseley blog, which
I think ESPN still misses greatly. Could I have done
five thousand words on that very thing, him changing some
lockers around you? Certainly? You bet, you bet. I could
have done that. But I'm comparing this more more than that.
(38:18):
It's like oursels left. Of course, McCarthy, you can't compare
to parcels. But I do remember when Wade came in
and there was sort of a breadth of fresh air,
and the way the team and the players were treated
in all I do see I do see sort of
a difference. And by the way, unbeknownst to a lot
of people, there's people in that building that were really
(38:42):
sick of Mike McCarthy and and Jerry is not one
of them. I don't think Jerry. I think Jerry wanted
to keep him and he couldn't. You know, he couldn't.
He tried to, He tried to get him on some
kind of weird short term deal, and McCarthy said, no,
I'd rather go back to the analytics bar and and
hold up with my guys. So, you know, but Schottenheimer
(39:02):
for there's something again. It may he may fall in
his face. Yeah, but I'm just telling you, Doug, all
you have to do is just come on to campus,
come on to the Star, spend a little time around
with him, and then you'd have a you'd have a
little different outlook and you wouldn't be making fun of
him for changing lockers. But putting Micah over next to Dak, Doug,
let's see what that does. I think it could really,
(39:22):
it could really get things moving in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yeah, well, well we shall see.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Matt Mosey is our guest here on the Doug Gottlieb
show on Fox Sports Radio. What about Dak right coming
off of another injury this year but does have a
new contract.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
How does this change how he has to play?
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Giving him another talented wide receiver, but a guy who
thinks he's open every single every single play.
Speaker 9 (39:53):
Well, he's going to have to take command.
Speaker 8 (39:56):
And I mean he and.
Speaker 9 (39:58):
CD are really good friends and close, but they certainly
have had their issues, like on the sideline during games.
I think CD, CD's family likes to get involved on
social media. Now they've involved somebody else, Pickens, who's not
exactly going to come in their hat in hand like
Willow show me where the number two wide receiver lines up?
But I think I think Dak is the unquestioned leader.
(40:22):
I do think there's a feeling around this team that,
especially losing Zach Martin, who is kind of a grimy,
tough guy that Tyler Smith, by the way, is very
tough in your face kind of you know, he's fairly quiet,
but he's a really good leader. But I think they
thought they needed some more dogs, so to speak, more
(40:43):
guys that would come in and be ready to fight
a little bit. And I think they probably have that
in Pickings. Now, could it turn ugly, and does the
guy love to get in fights and get fined and
do stuff on the field. Does he like to take
a few plays off? You bet he does. But no,
this has gone from the most unexciting ceedee Lamb and
(41:04):
the Pips. I mean, think about who they're gonna have,
Jalen Tobert and Jonathan Mingo. I mean, that was going
to be your second and third receiver, and on paper,
at least, Lamb and Pickings become one of the more
exciting duos around. I mean, you know the Eagles, yeah,
they got two, they got two really good ones. But
(41:25):
the Cowboys at least are in the conversation now. I
mean the Giants have one and now the Cowboys have two.
So anyway, I think I think, I think Dak will
be We'll be fine. The thing is canny. Hold up,
I mean, you know it's guy makes sixty million dollars
a year and he just he just get injured so much.
(41:46):
Now that Jerry did not want to do this deal,
and because Jerry is never proactive, like I said earlier,
and he waits, he got forced into doing just a
whole deal. And listen, these deals never work out, right,
I mean, like this sixty million a year deal is
going to look horrific by the time it's over. The
(42:08):
Zeke deal when Zeke held out. But see, guys know
they can break Jerry. I mean, if your parsons don't
even get near training camp, you don't even get near
the field, I mean you, I mean, why in the
wall wouldn't you hold out and then become the highest
paid pass rusher in the history of the game. I mean,
that's how everybody plays Jerry. So anyway, he's he's lost
(42:28):
his fastball when it comes to negotiating. Still great newel
and gas industry, but when it comes to negotiating with players,
it's it's a struggle.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
That's the voice of Matt Moseley, who you can hear
on the Doomsday Podcast, covering, among other things, and mostly
the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Most you're the best man. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 9 (42:48):
Hey, thanks, We lost all our players in the portals,
so if you can send anybody out away, we'd appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Okle mistake out my best player, So so I'm fresh
out of guys at that level.
Speaker 9 (42:57):
Appreciate that seems that seems cool.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
All right, I'll see you all right, Matt Moses Judius Bayer.
Did you read that story where the where the big move.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Is uh for Brian Schottenheimer is he made everybody get
up and change chairs.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Couldn't have sit in the same seat as last year.
Everything's different this year?
Speaker 3 (43:20):
Yeah, it was it. Micah Parsons and dak are next
to each other.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Well, they're lockers next to each other.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
Yes, yes, yes, so get comfortable being uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Yeah, that's not really that. Never mind, just let coach
go with it, right, does any of that stuff? Do
people think that stuff wins games? H Listen, I'll do it.
I'll try it if you'd like. Hey, I'll come into
my locker room. We have a brand new locker room
this year, and go heyah no, no, I want you
to go over there. Do you everybody switch? We're gonna
play the music and when the music stops, you and
(43:52):
one guy might not.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Have a locker.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
How guy's he got coming back to switch?
Speaker 7 (43:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Well I get to six? Okay, all right, coming back six,
coming back?
Speaker 3 (44:01):
So those six are unnoticed to change their seats.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Change your seats? Do you like the Pickens deal? Because
I'll give my thoughts, I want yours.
Speaker 10 (44:10):
I think that I do like Pickens as a wide receiver.
I think a lot of people do. It's all the
extra stuff, But why not I don't know if you're
the Dallas Cowboys. And it's funny because you were talking
with Matt Moseley about dan Quinn and we knew that
Kellen Moore was previously there. Dan Quinn could be the
head coach of the Cowboys. Colin Moore could be the
(44:31):
head coach of the Cowboys. Instead, they had Mike McCarthy
stuck with him, which I'm fine with him, fine with
that decision. I'm not sure how many people are on
board with Brian Schottenheimer. I think people feel that they are.
They were settling in that point. I thought Shanheimer was
great for the Seahawks when he was there for as
their offensive coordinator. So I'm gonna wait and see approach.
(44:52):
But now that division, over the last twelve months has
now got the defending Super Bowl championsh and a team
that people are absolutely in love with and feel that
they have a star quarterback for the next fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (45:07):
And it just feels like they just.
Speaker 10 (45:11):
They miss their window in a division where I know
that window always rotates, But now you've got to figure
out a way to try to compete with Philadelphia in Washington.
Scoring more points and scoring a lot of points is
a way to do it. Mostly ran down their weapons,
the wide receivers. Deck's gonna have to throw the ball,
They're gonna have to protect them. But I just feel
that they miss their window. And so now it's like,
(45:33):
all right, let's just see if we can put forty
burgers on people and win football games. So for that aspect,
I guess I like them getting George Pickens. Can't deny
the talent, yeah, But I just I feel that they
miss their window.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
I think the missing the window is a really really
good point, really good point, and they're stuck in that.
They're like a tweener house. If you're ever buying houses, right,
we walk in like, well, it's been redone, but not recently,
and so it looks you have to redo it again.
You're better off walking into a house that's a complete
teardown then you are one that was redone ten years ago,
(46:10):
twelve years ago, fifteen years ago, where the styles.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Have passed it. That's the Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
That's the Cowboys, because like you said, the Eagles, you know,
now they've won two Super Bowls and they continue to
replenish with young talent.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
The Commanders and the Giants are interesting. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
I don't like what they got at quarterback unless Jackson
Dart works out, and then I love what they got
at quarterback because you brought in a couple veterans and
then eventually you hand it over to him. I think
what the Cowboys are missing is a true plan, and
right now their plan is let's just do the best
of what we can. Oh, let's go add the biggest
name wide receiver we can get. Forget about the fact
that he's a pain in the ass and that usually
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doesn't work.
Speaker 10 (46:54):
It's also funny too. I'm not a huge fan of trades.
Right after the NFL Draft, yep, the Seahawks and they
did their Jamal Adams deal like it didn't work out
for them, and it just felt like they were paying
it off for so long. And granted those were first
round picks at that point. Yeah, this is only a
third rounder and a fifth rounder. But if Pickens fails,
(47:16):
it's not like Pittsburgh has already used Dallas's third round
pick this past season. They're gonna have to give it up.
The next year, and then them swapping late later round
picks in twenty twenty seven. It's yeah, you better perform
this year, better better do it now.
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Speaker 2 (00:53):
Are you? Are you? We got a lot to get to.
I like this Chris Finch story. Hmm.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I think I want to start with the Wolves getting
beaten badly by the Warriors, and the Warriors didn't have
Steph Curry much of the game when he played thirteen
minutes and won't have him for Game two. And yet
I think as much as we'd like it to be
about the Warriors and how great they were defensively, we
(01:31):
also need to point out that maybe some of it
was that Anthony Edwards and the and the Wolves weren't
ready to play.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Don't believe me. Here's Chris Finch, the head coach of
the Wolves, talking about his young star.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Starts with Anthony.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
You know he I thought he's was you know, he
struggled early and then you could just kind of see
the light go out a little bit for a while,
and then you know, obviously we had to try to
get him going in the second half. But I think,
you know, it was one of those games where kind
of came out with the predetermined mindset that he was
trying to do, and just rather than just playing a
(02:05):
game that was in front of him, what is there
to talk about? I mean, you're they're they're the leader
of the team, and you got to come out and
set the tone. You know, in all ways that that happens,
and if it's if your shots not going like you
you still have to carry the.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Energy, you know.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
So I don't think there's if I got to talk
to guys about having the right energy coming into opening
around game, opening the second round game. Then you know
we're not you know we're not on the same page.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
So Stug Gottleeb Show here on Fox Sports Radio, I
think here's where you go from star to superstar, and
here's what differentiates guys. And I think some of it
for Anthony Edwards was like, look, I love the celebration
after you beat the Lakers. I love walking the streets
(02:53):
of LA and talking talking trash. I think that is awesome,
truly really awesome. But it's just a first round series. Dude,
you didn't win the NBA championship and you have to
act like which you have.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Been there before.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
So there's a little bit of the hey, you know,
there's a lot more basketball to be played. The second
part to it is can you play well when you're
not playing well? And there's a difference. And the reason
that I was never a big mellow guy not because
Carmelo Anthony. There's probably a five year stretch there when
he was the best scorer in the league. Three level
scorer obviously better than the mid range, which is kind
(03:33):
of died off, but he could really score, but could
Carmelo Anthony do anything to help your team when he
wasn't scoring. The answer was no, and Anthony Edwards at
some point could be described as such, Right, if you're
not making shots, what else can you do? Whereas we
saw Steph Curry and I don't think Steph Curry affects
the game defensively like he should, like the best of
(03:54):
the best of the best of the best do. But
Game seven against the Rocket, Steph Curry wasn't scoring, and
yet he still had great effect on the game.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Great effect on the game.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Uh, here's Jimmy Butler and Buddy Heal. They had this
exchange after the game.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Draymond declared that tonight Jimmy became Batman and Buddy went
from Alfred to Robin. Do you guys have any comments
on that declaration.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
No, I'll start out.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I'll start out.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
No no, no, no, no, no no no. I'm Batman today.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
I saved today. He's still robbing, all right, Well I'm
still robbing, yes, and Steph still Batman and uh, buttered
is still who he is. So he had another good game, man,
except for that stupid thing you did at the beginning
(04:46):
of the game.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
When you have on the right shorts.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
It's not real Robin and or Batman.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Like fuddy, what happened with the wardrobe malfunctions?
Speaker 6 (04:54):
Jimmy stretched out, that's Jimmy fall okay, Jimmy, and that's
what happens.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I was looking at my shorts and I thought it
the right When he said, yo, put these on, it.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Was right, and that was that's that's what you're going with.
Speaker 6 (05:07):
Yeah, I'm going on, Jimmy is Jimmy faul is the
lockers next to my locker.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I was looking at my shorts. He said, Joe, I
can't have on my shorts.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
Oh see there, And I put them on a look
just alike.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
And after that that all fine for it.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
So is cool.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
It was Jimmy fault leam Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Uh, pretty funny back and forth. Well, you're listening to
the only guy in America that has had a similar
type of wardrobe malfunction. He had the practice shorts on,
not the game shorts on, right, so he had to
run back into the locker room and Jay Stu, I
know this is a big thing. It's been a big
thing for all of us. It's see, this is what
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happens when you're wearing your non traditional uniforms. Right, they're
wearing their black road uniforms, and those were black shorts.
It wasn't terribly noticeable unless you were actually looking really
really close. But if you had one set, normal set
of uniform that looked very just different than your practice uniforms,
this would never happen.
Speaker 7 (06:02):
Correct, That was my point. And you telling me that
that was a practice shorts, that's news to me. I
thought this was like the shorts of another alternate uniform
that they that he had in his locker room. So
it makes a little bit more sense now. I want
to I want to, I want to go back to
your situation. You had put your shorts on backwards and
then you put your sweats on and it was in
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the middle of the game or before the game. How
did that come to be?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Again?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Uh, we're playing at Kansas. This is in March of
nineteen ninety nine, so twenty six years ago. It was
senior night for the Jayhawks.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
We were that year.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
We had gotten into the habit it started the year
before of flying in the day of the game. All
our guys liked it, so we flew intoating it.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
Well.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Because of weather, we had to land in Kansas City.
Because we land in Kansas City, we didn't have a
shoot around time, so we got in early to Lawrence
for the game. By early, I mean I think we
we you know, landed I would say noon or one o'clock,
and then we busted over from Kansas City to Lawrence,
which is like, you know, we landed downtown because we
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were on private not at MCI, which is way up
north in the boondocks. And you know, let's say we
got to I think we got to Lawrence at like one,
went to a hotel and had a pregame meal and
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then took a nap, and then the game, you know
big Monday games back then, we're like eight o'clock starts.
So instead of getting there at I don't know, seven thirty,
maybe we're there at seven. I mean instead again there
at six thirty, we were there at six or maybe
instead again there at seven, were there at six thirty.
We got like a half hour extra time to shoot
because we didn't have shoot around that day because of
the travel and whatnot. So when we would get to
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the gym, a teammate of mine, his name is Adrian Peterson,
needs to third all time leading score at Oklahoma State History.
He and I would often like kind of race, like
neither of us taped to go warm up or whatever.
And so we get there, throw on our shorts, not
put on our jerseys, just put on back. Then I
wore a ribbed white tea underneath my jersey. I think
(08:19):
we all know what the ribbed white tea is. Somehow
the sarcastic nickname of that is somehow offensive. I'm not
really sure how, but regardless, So throwing the rib white tea,
then throwing the shooting shirt over it, throw on my shorts,
you know, and I had, like there were these gray.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Undershorts that people used to work. Everybody called them grays.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I put my grays on over my underwear, and then
over that was my shorts, and then over the shorts
was my you know, the the tear away short, tearaway pants.
And so then when it you come back for game time,
you'd come back in and after you know, the first time,
after the first time you'd warm up, you'd throw on
your actual jersey, put the jersey on over the rid
(09:01):
wide t then put the shooting shirt back on. So
now you have shooting shirt and tear away sweats in
the bottom, and so I again, I never really looked
at my shorts. I had tear away sweats on over
the shorts ever since I put those shorts on. That's
my It's not excuse, that's the explanation. And then you know,
you get caught. You starting lineup, you're in the game.
(09:24):
I actually believe or not, had come out of the
game and come back into the game, and no one
on our bench had noticed it or said anything. And
we're at the free throw line and they started yelling
shorts on backwards, shorts and it sounded like shirts on backwards.
So I looked at my shirt and like, no, I'm good.
And then I kind of looked over my right shoulder
and saw that the OSU was on my right hamstring
(09:45):
and realized what I had done. We called time out,
switched the shorts around. Good to go, what's it? There
you go, There you go? But wolves not ready to play.
Anthony Edward tremendous, great talent. But to be a great player,
you gotta be be able to play well when you're
not playing well.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
He could not. And how about the Warriors able to
do it mostly without Steph most slyly that's stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Plus we had the Pacers winning after being down seven
with under a minute left, and for the second consecutive night,
a team up three with under ten seconds to go
fouls intentionally and loses the game at home.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
At home.
Speaker 8 (10:29):
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Speaker 2 (10:36):
Eh, what up with you?
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Speaker 2 (11:04):
Dan and I have Jase two and I have known
each other forever. We've been working together at two and
a half years. Jase two, is that right? It's my name.
We're coming up on four, coming up on four, like.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I said, coming up on four years and sam our
more recent addition to it. So what we've what we've
done or decided to do we enjoyed doing. Is on Wednesdays,
which is the middle of the week at one on
the West, which is the middle of our show. Granted
we have an hour podcast which goes live at the
(11:36):
end of this show. Middle of the week, middle of
the show, kind of the middle of your day. It's
kind of the middle of our thoughts. That's why we
get to the midway.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
It's not getting the middle.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
It's time for the.
Speaker 8 (11:52):
Midway.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Okay, for Midway topics today. By the way, I knew
what I wanted to talk about, Dan, It was Gabe Davis,
just like you want to talk about a guy who
had he had such a good year with the Bills
and he goes to the Jags that clearly did not work.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
One and done.
Speaker 9 (12:10):
There.
Speaker 10 (12:10):
Yeah, new coach, new regime. Youve got Travis Hunter now
there to go along with Brian Thomas. So yeah, sometimes
it just doesn't work out.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Just sometimes it doesn't work out.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Okay, do you guys have a theory on why there
have been so many comebacks here, especially in the NBA playoffs?
You want some are choke jobs, some are just old
fashioned comebacks. Some are a little bit in the middle, Like,
what's a working theory that you have? I have one
(12:43):
more hypotheses, right, because the theory is one that's proven.
Go ahead, go ahead, Jason.
Speaker 7 (12:47):
So uh, you know, we talk about all the time
the uh NBA's effort to try to get players engaged
during the regular season. We got the NBA Cup, we
got the All Star Shenanigans, and then we go out
this stupid play in tournament. All is an effort to
get interest from the players to play harder. They mask
(13:07):
it as a gift to the fans, but it's actually
a way to get the players to play harder, to
be engaged, to be competitive. Well, what happens when you
have an unengaged set of young players that aren't competitive
during the regular season and then they get into these
ball the butt squinching moments in a playoff game when
(13:28):
it really matters. The guy that I don't know the
name of Dan will know. You'll know whoever threw the
inbounds pass to the pacer last night. That was the
end of the game.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Again, that was a chick again. We just talked about it.
It did it again like.
Speaker 7 (13:43):
Two nights ago. What happened at the end of the
game with with with Holmegrin. That's a choke. These guys
are not in moments like this at all ever, and
they're not engaged. The regular season doesn't matter, they're not practicing.
So who are doing well in these moments Jimmy Butler
and Haller Burton, guys that have done it before. Olympians. Uh.
(14:06):
I think that's part of the reason for these like
unprecedented level of choke jobs.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Sam, do you have it? Do you have a theory
on that?
Speaker 10 (14:20):
I dan you you go ahead, I've got yeah, because
it's it does I don't know if it piggybacks, I
don't know if it rides shotgun to it. But I
feel I feel it's the officiating and and I feel
that there's a couple of different factors at work.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
I think that Jason's right.
Speaker 10 (14:37):
In a normal regular season game, when the Calves go
up seven on the Pacers, the Pacers may just go
down and they don't get a bucket. It's game over.
Let's run the shot clocked down. Sure, even at seven
points that I'm like, we are not going to make
a furious comeback. Let's but it's different in the playoffs,
and I think that there is something to that. I
(14:58):
also feel the officiating because we've seen a lot of
turnovers on pressure last night, in other scenarios where I
feel that we're seeing turnovers because guys are hesitant, I
don't think officials are making the foul calls in those scenarios.
And on the flip side of it, you know the
(15:19):
Haliburton three point play last night, there are a couple
of three point play opportunities we've seen throughout the playoffs.
We know NBA officials, they love to be up in
the business and if there's a big play to be
able to call that basket and a foul, and I
feel that that has happened at times. I don't know
if all of these. I mean, Karl Anthony Town's got
(15:41):
mugged a few times in Boston in Game one, but
it wasn't in the clutch.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
It wasn't with seconds.
Speaker 10 (15:48):
Remaining, or the knicks down four and maybe changing momentum,
and you can call one, but they're calling them in
those situations, a touch foul, a late whistle, allowing the
games to be closer.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
And so when when one side and I'm not saying
it's the pacers. I'm saying.
Speaker 10 (16:06):
It feels like the team that's ahead isn't getting a
whistle when they're trying the inbound and the team that's
behind is. I think that that's why you've seen it,
and I feel like I've seen it multiple times in
these NBA playoffs, not only in the first round, but
also in a couple of games here in the second round.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
I agree with you guys in terms of it, and
this is like a it's a real thing in terms
like practice, right when you can't replicate, you can't replicate
the intensity of the NBA Playoffs.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
You can't replicate like.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
All of these breakdowns and inbounds passes have been when
the team doesn't have a timeout and it's like they've
never played. It's like suddenly they forgotten how to play
basketball when you don't have a timeout to advance the ball.
I would also say, though, that there's just some weird stuff.
I mean, three two nights in a row, a team
up three, fowls up three and loses both those games
in regulation.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
That hard to do. It feels like a things that
go bump of the night.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yet it happened. Why do I think it happens. I
think Jason, you're pretty much on it. It's that the
attention to detail is just not great in the regular
season and it matters so much. And comebacks are so
(17:23):
normal in the regular season. They shouldn't be in the postseason,
but they are. I'll also tell you that it's the
reason the twenty four second shot clock is brilliant, because
you look up and you're like, well, this game's over.
You're like, no, Actually, if you look at it with
two and a half minutes, there's plenty of time, plenty
of possessions. But again, some of it's the NBA's rules,
and some of it is how these NBA teams use
(17:44):
the rules, Like if you have a ten point league,
but two and a half to go, like you every
shot you take, every shot you take should be as
the shot clock expires, unless you're unless you have a
wide open layup or a wide open three as the
shot clock expires. Teams don't run clock the way they can,
even within twenty four second shot lite. So I think
it exposes some of the lack of IQ of the players,
(18:05):
the lack of intensity of the regular season, and also
the skill in the shot making of NBA teams, and
that you know, if it's two possessions, they can make
it up really quick with two shots. All of those
threes that people hate that they take, they love it
when they take them and make them in comebacks.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
What about you there, Sam? What do you think?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
I think Sam passed.
Speaker 7 (18:32):
I think the reason why I thought about this today
is because so during the transition between games last night,
when Stan Van Gundy's crew took over for the Pacers game,
he was asked this question, how do you account for this?
And his answer was something along the lines of the
(18:52):
game has changed so much, so fast. Yeah, and all
the three pointers, and then he didn't expound on that.
I'm like, I need to hear the more, like what
does that mean exactly? Do you understand what he means?
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yeah, just you could make up points so much quicker,
and guys are so used to shooting it, you know,
they're not panic shots anymore.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
So Yeah, And I and I think also with.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
It comes this idea that you know, you're, okay, hey,
we can't give up a three, and so then somebody
shot fixed and they'll get wide open laps, like wait,
you fought for forty six and a half minutes to
not give up any buckets and now you're just gonna
give up lamps. I do think the three point shot
changes how you guard, chase a space the floor, and
(19:38):
then offensively, there's just an ease to it and an
understanding of it where it's it's not like it's not
a miracle, and guys.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Get very confident shooting them. But it's true. No lead
is safe in the NBA.
Speaker 10 (19:51):
None, well zero, it's and I'll say this about the pacers.
I'll give Tyre's Halliburton credit that. And when he attacked
the basket, there were fifteen seconds left on the clock
or neighborhood maybe give or take, and he's still going
for a two, like you know in that scenario. Now
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he got fouled, so he had two shots because he
didn't make the basket, but they didn't panic in essence
of even if Halliburton makes the two, and I don't
think he I don't think he purposely missed unless there
was a post game. Again, it was my anniversary last night,
so I didn't hear. If he did purposely miss, it
was a great miss and the caves didn't have a
(20:33):
lot of size on the floor aside from Jared Allen.
Then it obviously worked out to their advantage, but I
felt like he went to the basket and were willing
to then foul again and do what they needed to
do on the next possession if it played out that way.
But they didn't panic in that scenario. They did it
against the Bucks. We saw the Bucks in their Game
(20:54):
five just give it away with a couple of bad turnovers,
and we saw how frantic those situations were.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
We saw Oklahoma City.
Speaker 10 (21:01):
You bring that scenario up and inbounding and how you
play that scenario and just getting the ball to the
right person or Chet Holmgren's case, the wrong person at
that time.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Yeah, a lot of that.
Speaker 7 (21:16):
Remember we talked the other day about this and Dan
said that, like one of the reasons people like watching
college sports or college basketball is because it's flawed. And
I the point that I think I was trying to
make is that these games are not being one because
of great play. They're being one because of brain farts
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and gripping it too tight when it matters most.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
So it's almost like you don't think Halliburton that was
a great play, Like he gets the offensive rebound, Like, yeah,
you can absolutely point to the cabs, Hey, you got
a box out in this free throw.
Speaker 7 (21:50):
He never gets to that play though, if the guy
imbounds the pass, yeah is fair.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
He's one hundred percent correct.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
But again, I do think there's a skill in some
of the shot making and in these comebacks. And you know,
hacking Aaron Gordon, Yeah, chet Holgrin choked two free throws.
Aaron Gordon still made the three. Otherwise there is no
that doesn't matter. So you're right, I'm not Again, this
is not me saying it wrong. I do think that
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we have a tendency to I mean, any of these
great shots down the stretch, for the most part, historically
comes back from a miss free throw. You know, it's
like we think about this all the time. How many
times have we been watching playoff baseball or or even
regular season baseball and a late inning comeback that ends
(22:46):
in a home run? How does the rally usually start
chase two a walk? Yes, it almost always starts with
a walk, right, And so when if you're going to
do the post mortem on a great comeback or a
walk off home run, yeah, you can mention the walk.
But we do have a tendency to focus on like
can you believe that guy hit a walk off home run,
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and we don't point out the negative of the walk
Whereas here in basketball, instead of pointing out the Tyrese
Haliburton shot which would be the home run, or the
Aaron Gordon shot, which would be the home run, we
point out the negative first. Hey, plays really not that good?
When this is kind of how it's always been. It's
like Keith Smart's jump shot on the baseline for Indiana
(23:31):
to beat Syracuse in the nineteen eighty seven National Championship game. Uh, Dan,
you and I weren't old enough to truly remember it,
but I'm guessing you remember what preceded that jump shot?
Speaker 9 (23:44):
Oh was it?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Well? Yeah, did mister Syracuse knows?
Speaker 7 (23:47):
Was it?
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Derek Coleman? Was he at the line?
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah, Derek Coleman missed a front end of a one
in one, and Keith Smart comes down. They passed around,
he shoots a fade or he sees a leaner on
the on the left base line, and wins the game.
No one goes back and says, like, oh, Derek. Some
people still think Derek Coleman choked, and he probably did
at nineteen years old. But when we look back, we
look at the shot, not the miss that proceeded. Yet
(24:13):
here in the NBA we're focusing on, Hey, you didn't
box out, he didn't box out. I guess I'm sounding
like I'm defending it, but I'm really just trying to
tell the whole.
Speaker 7 (24:23):
No, what you're saying is like, if the mishap ends
the game, then that's the takeaway. Bill Buckner's mishap ended
the game. Chris Weber's timeout ended the game, so there
was no great shot or a base hit after you
know Buckner's play. But you're saying that there was a
game winning shot to be made and these guys stepped
(24:44):
up and made it. So two things could be true.
Speaker 10 (24:46):
Yes, yes, yes, I think I think these whistles though
they they really they want drama.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
They do, yeah, but they always have.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Man, the NBA is this is I swear, And I'll
also point this out, like where has it been dramatic?
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Dan Byer? Yes, okay, are we fair to say that?
I know it doesn't have the ratings.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
I'm not saying it's as popular, but the NBA playoffs
have been better than the NFL playoffs today.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
This year, this year alone been unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
The watch is unreal, like the Knicks come from twenty
down to beat the Celtics in Boston. This whole Pacers
run has been crazy, how they beat the Bucks in
their final game, the two wins here, especially this win
last night Nick Pistons was an awesome watch, super super competitive.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
So the point is that you want to.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Talk about these two things can be true, Jay stew
And you're right, NBA basketball like Major League Baseball, I
think is actually better that it's been just reputation wise,
the numbers don't reflect as much, don't reflect much.
Speaker 10 (26:08):
I don't know if it fits in our window. But
Shay Gil just Alexander made his free throws, chet Holmgrin
did not. Tyre's Halliburton's been making these clutch shots for
the Pacers. Jalen Brunson's been magnificent. I think also in
certain spots when we're looking at this of last night,
(26:29):
I think was it Max Strus who made the inbounds
pass with the bad pass? Just getting your ball to
the guy that needs to have the ball is half
the battle. For some reason, teams can't figure it out.
You know, Cleveland, after the Pacers cut it to three,
used their final time out and then advanced the ball
and they still couldn't inbound it. And I don't know
(26:52):
if that's on Kenny Atkinson. I don't know it's on
Donovan Mitchell. I don't know if it's on the injuries
that other guys aren't in the game, but.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
It's it's on It's really on the inbounder. You got
to get that baone bounce, So you gotta get the
bone mounts rule number one. And for any play, any
play you run in basketball, the most important aspect of
an OBI play. A sideline bounce is a slop sideline
out of bounds.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Rule number one. Get the bone bounce and that's the midway,
the midway.
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Speaker 1 (27:47):
Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio, uh Dan byer. Have
you seen the Utah mammoths new unif the uniforms which
have made its way on social media, which the announced today.
Speaker 10 (28:03):
Yeah, so the team colors are the same from what
they had this past season. But yes, I've seen the logos,
seen seen the tusks up for the Utah Mammoth starting
play next year.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Are you? I mean you are a resident beautiful critic.
Speaker 10 (28:18):
So the Mammoth mascot goes to the obviously the prehistoric days,
if you will, mammoth fossils found in Utah a bit
of a stretch, but hey, whatever whatever works for him.
I don't mind the color. I think it's a I
don't love the black, but I think the blue is fine.
(28:40):
I love the logo. And if you look at the
Mammoth logo, it's got some hidden things in there, Easter
eggs if you will, you can see the state of Utah.
And i think they did a really good job with
the logo. I'm just happy that they're not staying Utah
Hockey Club.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
So I'm looking I'm looking at the I'm looking at
the logo and for people who haven't seen it, okay,
it looks like the first glance you're like, oh, I
see the tusk, and I see the the.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
What is it called on a mammothist stout?
Speaker 3 (29:11):
The sure?
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (29:14):
And then you see the eyes and looks fairly fierce.
And then you're like, wait a second, I see mountains.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yep, not in the mountains?
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Wasatch mountains?
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Wasatch mountains? Where is the state of Utah in there?
Speaker 10 (29:25):
So if you look on the left, yeah, upper left
hand of the logo at an angle is the state
the state of Utah outline.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
It's like the silhouettes.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Yeah, yes, I see that. Clever, clever, clever. What else?
What are the other Easter eggs in there?
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Oh?
Speaker 10 (29:46):
I noticed the Utah one when I saw renderings of
it previously. The someone said that the tusk is the
shape of a U for the state of Utah. See
that and see that as well. That the M on
the bottom of the state of Utah that we have
is for the mammoth as well.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Oh okay, yep, okay, I like it.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
What about the actual uniforms themselves, and the and the gear,
You're okay with all that? Like, I don't know if
it matters.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Yeah, I'm I'm not.
Speaker 10 (30:19):
I'm not a huge hockey sweater guy, I like the
one with the mammoth on it as opposed to the
one that just is says Utah, Yes, correct, it's it's
better when you have more letters, when you do the diagonal,
like with Rangers, University of Wisconsin where's There's where it
has Wisconsin down that way. When you only have four letters,
it doesn't work as well.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
And which team is this that? What was this?
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Originally Phoenix Coyotes, that was.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
The Phoenix Couties that we used to be the Winnipeg
Jets that became the Rhoenix Cooties and now is the
Utah menmoth.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
And the current Winnipeg Jets were the Atlanta Thrashers.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Right, every pretty good sure stuck out leap show here
on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
There's something you were saying by her. It was it
was a football thing that I wanted to.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Get to Pickens deal.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
No, obviously I want to start to start talking about
the Pickens deal. But yeah, Pickens for Dickens and a
sixth for a third to fifth? Is it feels like
please take them off our hands?
Speaker 2 (31:20):
It just does.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
And part of it is, obviously I know he's gonna,
you know, want a new deal. Part of it is
it's kind of been a pain the aster in his
fresh and they're in his rookie deal. And you wonder, like, again,
if it's fantasy football on paper, Pickens on one side
and Ceedee Lamb on the other side, it's great, But
there's a lot of ego in that room, A lot
(31:44):
of ego in that room.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Did I mention there's a lot of ego in that room?
Speaker 10 (31:48):
Then they're gonna need a lot of offense too, And
I think that's kind of what they're they're aiming on,
just try to maybe outscore people.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Yeah, well that let's ask Matt Mosley. He he would
know better than us. Matt Mosley hosts The Doomsday Podcast
columnists for Fox Sports. Of course, he's done his own
radio show as well, covering the among other things, the
Dallas Cowboys and Matt, we didn't see much movement from
the Cowboys all off season.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Now, this what's your reaction?
Speaker 9 (32:19):
You know, this is what Jerry doug has been hinting
at for a while. We thought he was just talking
trying to drum up a little draft interest, but he
was trying to make something happen. And a lot of
times when people start doing all the goofiness of trying
to break news and people that don't normally break news.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
This is his talk.
Speaker 9 (32:39):
But then last night it started heating up, and so
I just find it funny that I mean, I think
it's a good deal for the Cowboys. Actually both teams
probably works out because I think Tomlin was probably sick
of Pickens and the way he acted on the field especially,
and the last memory I have of him is like
playing against the cow Boys and fighting Jordan Lewis on
(33:02):
the field. And I mean again, but this team is
known for having wide receivers like George Pickens, who will
either get in fights on the field or on the
sideline or constantly chirping, and so they're at least sort
of used to this. Now it's brilliant if he truly
will take the opinion of coming in here and like
(33:25):
playing for his next contract and sort of using this.
But now if they're expected to put some kind of
great deal together for him, if he's expecting something like that,
he and his agent, then they come to the wrong place.
Because the Cowboys love to make people wait until the
last second. They don't get things done. They're not proactive
on contracts. So if he's got that sort of attitude,
(33:48):
but if he's got the attitude of like this is
a prove it type season, then I think both sides
have come to a good place.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Yeah, you nailed it right. It's did.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Steelers are all about culture. He didn't fit their culture.
The Cowboys are trying to be all about players, and
he's a player can make plays. Now the question is
can they make it work? You know questions they can
they make it work? What is the true outlook for
this Cowboys team? Now they've added George.
Speaker 9 (34:18):
Pickens, Well, they still, you know, have some question marks
at running back, which has become an annual thing. You know,
maybe they can find an aging back they can bring in.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
They love that.
Speaker 9 (34:29):
They love to get about a thirty year old guy
who's broken down and get him back there and see
what he can do. But they actually have some decent veterans.
And then that Jaden Blue that they got from Texas.
Obviously I've seen him play a lot because of where
I'm from, and he is dynamic, good pass catcher, great speed,
all of that. So who knows he may emerge as
(34:51):
kind of the next Tony Pollard so to speak. Who
was pretty good for them for a brief amount of time.
I think it's really going to come down to how
this O line shakes out. And we've got everybody you
know talking about like they've assembled the line, like they've
gone back to the days of Nate Newton and that bunch,
you know, and Larry Allen. I think that's a little
(35:12):
a little early to that party. But I would say
that like if that Tyler gotten from Ou by way
of TCU, if he can actually play and play left tackle,
then they may assemble. Because this new guy from Alabama
means business. The Tyler Booker Tyler Smiths are really good players,
so I mean they could have the makings of a
(35:35):
pretty good offensive line. So I think I would say
I have changed their trajectory to and again, they now
have the Super Bowl camps and another great team, So
they've gone from sort of being back and forth with
the Eagles on an annual basis to now having two
teams in the division you know, that are really good.
(35:57):
So I think everybody would think they're probably the third
team heading in. So I probably the ceiling for this
thing would be ten wins. I think if everything goes right,
this is a about a ten and seven team and
what you know, we'll see if that makes the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Has that ever been a Jerry Jones team that people
actually thought ten and seven is a good thing?
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Well, no, no, but I.
Speaker 9 (36:25):
Think based on last season and how disappointing and how
some of the I think I think it would come
across as like a real bounce back, and I think
it would be a great place for the Schottenheimer era
to begin. And well, you can't imagine the feel good
story this is around here. It's like everybody at first
(36:47):
was real mad and like, what in the world, what
is this higher? But I've actually been out there, spent
time around him, these rookies and like in the building,
and like it's a whole different sort of approach now.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
I can Yeah, because he changed their chairs. That's what
he did.
Speaker 9 (37:02):
He had the ing sarcastic and I understand that that's
what you do.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
And you know what, yeah, you didn't if it if okay,
let me just ask you this.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Matt Moseley is our guest here Doomsday Podcast covering the
Dallas Cowboys. This is Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox
Sports Tradio. Let me just let me just ask you
right now. Okay, so let's say, who's the What am
I forgetting? Who's the coach of the of the Commanders.
He's doing a really good job. I know Cliff does
the offense. It's he used towboy qui. Okay, So had
(37:35):
Dan Quinn gone into the Commanders last year and said, hey, everybody,
get up and change your seat, you would have spent
a good portion of your show going what are.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
We doing here?
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Right?
Speaker 9 (37:48):
Like?
Speaker 2 (37:48):
What are we doing here? Cowboys? Yeah? Oh yeah, there's
a breath of fresh air. Everybody just changed their their seats.
Speaker 9 (37:58):
I mean, that's not really I'm basing it on. I
would I have written on the old Moseley blog, which
I think ESPN still misses greatly. Could I have done
five thousand words on that very thing, him changing some
lockers around you? Certainly? You bet, you bet. I could
have done that. But I'm comparing this more more than that.
(38:18):
It's like oursels left. Of course, McCarthy, you can't compare
to parcels. But I do remember when Wade came in
and there was sort of a breadth of fresh air,
and the way the team and the players were treated
in all I do see I do see sort of
a difference. And by the way, unbeknownst to a lot
of people, there's people in that building that were really
(38:42):
sick of Mike McCarthy and and Jerry is not one
of them. I don't think Jerry. I think Jerry wanted
to keep him and he couldn't. You know, he couldn't.
He tried to, He tried to get him on some
kind of weird short term deal, and McCarthy said, no,
I'd rather go back to the analytics bar and and
hold up with my guys. So, you know, but Schottenheimer
(39:02):
for there's something again. It may he may fall in
his face. Yeah, but I'm just telling you, Doug, all
you have to do is just come on to campus,
come on to the Star, spend a little time around
with him, and then you'd have a you'd have a
little different outlook and you wouldn't be making fun of
him for changing lockers. But putting Micah over next to Dak, Doug,
let's see what that does. I think it could really,
(39:22):
it could really get things moving in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yeah, well, well we shall see.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Matt Mosey is our guest here on the Doug Gottlieb
show on Fox Sports Radio. What about Dak right coming
off of another injury this year but does have a
new contract.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
How does this change how he has to play?
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Giving him another talented wide receiver, but a guy who
thinks he's open every single every single play.
Speaker 9 (39:53):
Well, he's going to have to take command.
Speaker 8 (39:56):
And I mean he and.
Speaker 9 (39:58):
CD are really good friends and close, but they certainly
have had their issues, like on the sideline during games.
I think CD, CD's family likes to get involved on
social media. Now they've involved somebody else, Pickens, who's not
exactly going to come in their hat in hand like
Willow show me where the number two wide receiver lines up?
But I think I think Dak is the unquestioned leader.
(40:22):
I do think there's a feeling around this team that,
especially losing Zach Martin, who is kind of a grimy,
tough guy that Tyler Smith, by the way, is very
tough in your face kind of you know, he's fairly quiet,
but he's a really good leader. But I think they
thought they needed some more dogs, so to speak, more
(40:43):
guys that would come in and be ready to fight
a little bit. And I think they probably have that
in Pickings. Now, could it turn ugly, and does the
guy love to get in fights and get fined and
do stuff on the field. Does he like to take
a few plays off? You bet he does. But no,
this has gone from the most unexciting ceedee Lamb and
(41:04):
the Pips. I mean, think about who they're gonna have,
Jalen Tobert and Jonathan Mingo. I mean, that was going
to be your second and third receiver, and on paper,
at least, Lamb and Pickings become one of the more
exciting duos around. I mean, you know the Eagles, yeah,
they got two, they got two really good ones. But
(41:25):
the Cowboys at least are in the conversation now. I
mean the Giants have one and now the Cowboys have two.
So anyway, I think I think, I think Dak will
be We'll be fine. The thing is canny. Hold up,
I mean, you know it's guy makes sixty million dollars
a year and he just he just get injured so much.
(41:46):
Now that Jerry did not want to do this deal,
and because Jerry is never proactive, like I said earlier,
and he waits, he got forced into doing just a
whole deal. And listen, these deals never work out, right,
I mean, like this sixty million a year deal is
going to look horrific by the time it's over. The
(42:08):
Zeke deal when Zeke held out. But see, guys know
they can break Jerry. I mean, if your parsons don't
even get near training camp, you don't even get near
the field, I mean you, I mean, why in the
wall wouldn't you hold out and then become the highest
paid pass rusher in the history of the game. I mean,
that's how everybody plays Jerry. So anyway, he's he's lost
(42:28):
his fastball when it comes to negotiating. Still great newel
and gas industry, but when it comes to negotiating with players,
it's it's a struggle.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
That's the voice of Matt Moseley, who you can hear
on the Doomsday Podcast, covering, among other things, and mostly
the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Most you're the best man. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 9 (42:48):
Hey, thanks, We lost all our players in the portals,
so if you can send anybody out away, we'd appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Okle mistake out my best player, So so I'm fresh
out of guys at that level.
Speaker 9 (42:57):
Appreciate that seems that seems cool.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
All right, I'll see you all right, Matt Moses Judius Bayer.
Did you read that story where the where the big move.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Is uh for Brian Schottenheimer is he made everybody get
up and change chairs.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Couldn't have sit in the same seat as last year.
Everything's different this year?
Speaker 3 (43:20):
Yeah, it was it. Micah Parsons and dak are next
to each other.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Well, they're lockers next to each other.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
Yes, yes, yes, so get comfortable being uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Yeah, that's not really that. Never mind, just let coach
go with it, right, does any of that stuff? Do
people think that stuff wins games? H Listen, I'll do it.
I'll try it if you'd like. Hey, I'll come into
my locker room. We have a brand new locker room
this year, and go heyah no, no, I want you
to go over there. Do you everybody switch? We're gonna
play the music and when the music stops, you and
(43:52):
one guy might not.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Have a locker.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
How guy's he got coming back to switch?
Speaker 7 (43:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Well I get to six? Okay, all right, coming back six,
coming back?
Speaker 3 (44:01):
So those six are unnoticed to change their seats.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Change your seats? Do you like the Pickens deal? Because
I'll give my thoughts, I want yours.
Speaker 10 (44:10):
I think that I do like Pickens as a wide receiver.
I think a lot of people do. It's all the
extra stuff, But why not I don't know if you're
the Dallas Cowboys. And it's funny because you were talking
with Matt Moseley about dan Quinn and we knew that
Kellen Moore was previously there. Dan Quinn could be the
head coach of the Cowboys. Colin Moore could be the
(44:31):
head coach of the Cowboys. Instead, they had Mike McCarthy
stuck with him, which I'm fine with him, fine with
that decision. I'm not sure how many people are on
board with Brian Schottenheimer. I think people feel that they are.
They were settling in that point. I thought Shanheimer was
great for the Seahawks when he was there for as
their offensive coordinator. So I'm gonna wait and see approach.
(44:52):
But now that division, over the last twelve months has
now got the defending Super Bowl championsh and a team
that people are absolutely in love with and feel that
they have a star quarterback for the next fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (45:07):
And it just feels like they just.
Speaker 10 (45:11):
They miss their window in a division where I know
that window always rotates, But now you've got to figure
out a way to try to compete with Philadelphia in Washington.
Scoring more points and scoring a lot of points is
a way to do it. Mostly ran down their weapons,
the wide receivers. Deck's gonna have to throw the ball,
They're gonna have to protect them. But I just feel
that they miss their window. And so now it's like,
(45:33):
all right, let's just see if we can put forty
burgers on people and win football games. So for that aspect,
I guess I like them getting George Pickens. Can't deny
the talent, yeah, But I just I feel that they
miss their window.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
I think the missing the window is a really really
good point, really good point, and they're stuck in that.
They're like a tweener house. If you're ever buying houses, right,
we walk in like, well, it's been redone, but not recently,
and so it looks you have to redo it again.
You're better off walking into a house that's a complete
teardown then you are one that was redone ten years ago,
(46:10):
twelve years ago, fifteen years ago, where the styles.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Have passed it. That's the Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
That's the Cowboys, because like you said, the Eagles, you know,
now they've won two Super Bowls and they continue to
replenish with young talent.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
The Commanders and the Giants are interesting. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
I don't like what they got at quarterback unless Jackson
Dart works out, and then I love what they got
at quarterback because you brought in a couple veterans and
then eventually you hand it over to him. I think
what the Cowboys are missing is a true plan, and
right now their plan is let's just do the best
of what we can. Oh, let's go add the biggest
name wide receiver we can get. Forget about the fact
that he's a pain in the ass and that usually
(46:52):
doesn't work.
Speaker 10 (46:54):
It's also funny too. I'm not a huge fan of trades.
Right after the NFL Draft, yep, the Seahawks and they
did their Jamal Adams deal like it didn't work out
for them, and it just felt like they were paying
it off for so long. And granted those were first
round picks at that point. Yeah, this is only a
third rounder and a fifth rounder. But if Pickens fails,
(47:16):
it's not like Pittsburgh has already used Dallas's third round
pick this past season. They're gonna have to give it up.
The next year, and then them swapping late later round
picks in twenty twenty seven. It's yeah, you better perform
this year, better better do it now.
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