November 30, 2024 • 41 mins
On this edition of The Best Of The Week Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug breaks down the Ravens' win over the Chargers on Monday night and talks about L.A. being a nice surprise this season as the will likely be a playoff team.
Doug and the crew share what they are most thankful for in sports in this week's "The Midway".
Doug and Dan weigh in on Tom Brady's criticism of Daniel Jones before welcoming former Bucs' GM and long-time NFL Executive Mark Dominik onto the show to discuss all the major headlines around the NFL.
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In a lot to get to we'll talk about the Cowboys.
(00:47):
We've got John Middlecoff joining us. We'll get a little
MVP discussion. Aaron Rodgers has talked about his future. I
was we'll talk to Ryan Day a little bit later
on the show as they get ready to play Michigan.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Obviously, this is a yeah, ude.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
We love that you beat Penn State, that you've beaten,
that you beat Indiana last week, that you're going to
the college football playoff and probably going to the Big
Ten Championship game. But you gotta beat Michigan, especially this year,
Michigan coming off probably.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Their best performance of the season.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
My team lost to Ohio State last night, But I
had no idea that on Michigan week, every m on
campus is like crossed out, like there's.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
A red X on it.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
It's pretty cool college sports man. Can't beat it, can't
beat it. But while we were playing and then ultimately
losing to Ohio State late in the second half, same
was happening. By the way, for the LA Chargers. Now,
if we're honest with ourselves, and I think I'm a
pretty honest LA Charger fan, that seven and four at
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this point the season is outstanding. That being right there
in the game is incredible, especially when you consider, you know,
your wide receivers are Palmer, Lad McConkey, Jalen Rager, and
of course Quinton Johnson, who couldn't catch a cold at
dead of winner. So when there was that huge Quinton
Johnson drop, you're like, Yeah, what's what's actually new unless
(02:20):
you just started watching the Chargers of this year or
the last couple of weeks where it started to catch
football here's John Harbaugh. I'll talk about beating his brother.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
It was kind of ear muffs in that sense, and
I know it was for Jim too. I mean because
in the end, it's like it's true, it's meaningful, it matters,
it's just something that it's just an incredible thing. I mean,
it just it means. It does mean a lot, and
I'm so proud of him. It's an amazing thing to
look back to where we to, where we are, you know,
from where we came and all the all the different
we got different paths. You know, we grew up in
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the same room, you know, and kind of kind of
I've always lived our life side by side. But that's
not what the game's about.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
The game really is.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
About the players, and the players are always going to
win the game or lose a game or whatever. It's
just a And that's why strong and courageous is such
a big deal because it takes so much to play
this game. It's got to be strong and courageous to
play football, you really do at this level. These guys
sacrifice so much and they go out there and they
just throw everything on the line. And I have so
much respect for players. Jim's the same way. We both
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try to treat our players with great respect and admiration
and love, you know, and because that's how we feel
about him.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Here's Lamar Jackson talking about one to help us coach
Peter's brother.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
You know, I feel like, for me being a big brother,
it's like I can't lose to my.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
Little brother, you know.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
And that's what I believe going into that game, he
was thinking a lot, you know. And then Jim on
the other side, I believe he was like, I gotta
get my I gotta beat my big brother, but became
out victorious. So I feel like that's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, I honestly think that has nothing to do with
it. It's cool. It's cool.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Here's Lamar Jackson having this exchange with a report. Are
about a ceiling for.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Shots catch and you know, also Mark making that grab
on the jump ball and Justice ripped out the fifty
one yard run.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
How much did those guys? How much is your ceiling?
Speaker 7 (04:13):
Is your ability to reach your ceiling affected by those
guys doing those kinds of plays.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
I mean, those guys are doing their job.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
They're supposed to do that.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
You know.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
If I play on the ball, I believe I expect
them to catch it, and I believe they expect they
gonna catch the ball, you know as well. And Justice Hill,
he just you know, bounced the ball outside and just
went for what he knew and then it was great
bo Botle receivers that that led that way in off Salon.
But like I said, I believe those guys should catch.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
The ball regardless if you touched them.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
Hands catch the ball.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Ah, if it touched them, hands catch the ball. And
then there's Quinton Johnson, Jay stew what was the experience, like, uh,
you're smoking out a girlfriend watching Monday night football with you.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Yeah, that was Ah, that was a tough one. So
there's a couple here. I don't know if the Chargers
win that game last night if he makes that catch,
but the game looks very different if Quinton Johnson takes
a ball thrown right into his hands. I think he
had like fifty yards ahead of him, as Troy Aigman
had described, And it does one of two things. First,
(05:17):
it obviously it was a third down, so they had
to punt. And it was just like a like a
blow like it was just a momentum killer. So yeah,
that was a tough one. But I'm proud of the Chargers.
I've said this before. If they would have won three
games this season, I wouldn't have been surprised or disappointed.
(05:38):
So it's all gravy at this point.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I thought Troy Aigman went soft at one point in time,
or or maybe he and I don't think this is
the case because I have found Troy to be exceptionally
well prepared.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Especially since move over to ESPN.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
That you know, he's like, it's just a lack of concentration, like, well,
he hasn't been concentrating for a long time, right, because
this is who he is.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
In Quentin Johnson, he.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Either has bad hands or lacks concentration or a combination
of both. But he had kind of had a breakthrough
or we thought a breakthrough a couple weeks before catching
the football, and that breakthrough or any feelings of a
breakthrough obviously went away because of the performance where he
had zero he had zero catches that one. That one,
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What are we exactly going to do with that? You know,
I'm not really sure this is the Doug Gottlieb Show
here on Fox Sports Radio, but I'm still kind of
stuck on these Ravens where now because their defense is
so average, especially and below average for the Ravens. Right
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like for most teams, the Ravens defense is slightly less
than what it should be. For the Ravens, it's a
debacle because the Ravens are known for their defense, which
means the playoffs are going to be even more on
Lamar Jackson than they've ever been before. And all these
wins are great, but if we're honest with ourselves, we're
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going to judge Lamar Jackson based upon what he does
in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Fair, unfair.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
That's where he is the player regular season beyond almost
beyond reproach. Now, he came off of a disappointing game
against Pittsburgh Steelers, and he was better last night. He
was good last night and they won the game. But
how he performs in the playoffs is paramount for how
he's going to be judged all time. And to this
point he's been successful only in small doses and unsuccessful
(07:44):
on the grand scheme. I think that's a fair way
to look at him. And it really is the fact
that the Chargers are in those games and have those opportunities.
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where tomorrow Thanksgiving and we'll have Thanksgiving Thursday night football
should be really, really, really fun. Be my first cold
weather experience. Won't be super cold. Start kickoff in the thirties.
(09:09):
By yeah, you know, most of the game be in
the twenties. That's that's cold enough here from southern California.
Speaker 9 (09:14):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Full disclosure.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I do have the seats that I was I was
given by Scott and Kelly Perry.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
They are in the club section.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
So though the seats are outside and you can go
inside anytime you want, and it's like a big sports
bar inside. It's really really cool. So I'll be toughing
it out. I won't be in the lower bowl. It's
not We're not it's not that kind of toughness. But
I'm really really excited to go to my first ever
cold weather game.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Whish there was a little snow, right.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Does feel like, uh, you know, having a cold weather
game with cold wether with no snow makes no sense
to me, no sense to me. It's like unsweetened tea.
What's the point?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Right?
Speaker 1 (09:58):
What we do every Wednesday, Wednesday is hum Day. Wednesday
is the middle of the week. This is the middle
of the show because we have a one hour podcast
which drops at the end of the show. So you
can download it or if you download podcasts, including the
Doug Gotlieve Show podcast, but it's downloadable.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
So this is the middle of the week.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
This is the middle of the show, and it's also
kind of the middle of your day, right the middle
of your day, especially if you're on the West coast.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
So we do something we call the Midway. It's not
getting It's time for the.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Midway, all right there, Jay Stu.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
We do let you at times go kind of.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Kind of classic radio topics, really create a conversation.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
What's the topic today?
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Thanks Doug, I'll take it from here.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Okay there, Jason.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Thanksgiving is tomorrow and I want to get really.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Like Thanksgiving already.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
It's incredible.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I just cleaned up for my Halloween decoration before you
know what.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
It's going to be December twenty fifth, and we all
know what that means. I can't say it on the
radio in this political correct society, but hey, today is
for the Midway. We're gonna do. What are the things
in sports that we are most thankful of? You know,
it's a time of year where we give thanks to things,
and the four of us work in sports. I'm thankful
(11:23):
all we do is sports, and we're very thankful for that.
First and foremost. I'll speak for everybody in the room.
Cool job, but I want specifics here. What is the
thing you are most thankful for? I'm going to start
it with Sam because he says he's got a list.
Should we go like around the room, one thing each
and then keep going how this goes every week? Sam,
welcome aboard. Here we go.
Speaker 10 (11:43):
Oh yeah, all right, I'm gonna start with this. I'm
thankful for the Lions being good, being musty TV. They've
always play on Thanksgiving. But you know, prior to a
few years ago, they were not great. They were not
musty TV. And let's admit that, you know, have.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
To say they're not great. They were terrible.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
They were terrible. Yeah, terrible, Yes, sure, terrible.
Speaker 10 (12:02):
And you know this isn't you know, this is against
the Bears. You know it's a NFC North divisional game.
The Bears aren't great and they're figuring it out. But
I'm thankful for the Lions being good because the other
two games are one is just flat out week terrible
Giants and Cowboys, and then Dolphins Packers. This is kind
of mid I think the but the Dolphins are playing
much better, so it's actually not such a terrible game.
(12:24):
I'm thankful though that we get to watch the Lions
because we seek out the Lions any other time of
the week. Yeah, that's what I'm going with Lions being
great and they're on Thanksgiving and we have something look
forward to.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Yeah, the Lions. In during Dan Campbell's first year, they
won three games. Previously that five, three, six, nine nine.
Jim callwell, remember I had them pretty decent. They won
eleven games, but they've had double digit wins okay, twice
since nineteen ninety six, previous to these last two years.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Twice. So yeah, they were putrid.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
And every year on Thanksgiving of the day after Thanksgiving,
there'd be some radio topic or some producer would come
into my studio and would say like, why are the
lines playing? And now we're finally rewarded for it? So
that's good with MONSI.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
What do you got?
Speaker 11 (13:15):
All Right, Well, you guys are again you're gonna be like,
you're so cliche.
Speaker 12 (13:18):
Okay, so my first year is.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Kind of a cliche segment. So don't worry about being
cliche in because the.
Speaker 12 (13:23):
First year I got hired in twenty twenty two. This
will be the third Thanksgiving i'm here, but my first Thanksgiving,
we did something like this of what we were thankful
with your show, Doug, and I was like, I am
just so thankful for this job and to be honest
with you guys, like because of the layoffs, I still
I am still so like shocked that I get to
do this for a living and I'm so thankful that
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I get to work with you guys and work on
the Doug Gottlieb Show and do this.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Like should be thankful. I really am. I really am.
Speaker 11 (13:50):
And you know, like we just had those layoffs, so
it was like a scary time and I'm literally I'm
getting a little bit emotional because like it's it's hard
to work in this business and to stay in it,
and so I'm just I'm very thankful, very grateful, very
happy to be here with you guys on a Wednesday.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
And also go Clippers.
Speaker 12 (14:05):
I'm also thankful for.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
My clippers because Paul George, They're still the best. Okay,
thank you. I'm thankful.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Monsey earned it. By the way, Moncey earned it. She
got three Thanksgivings ago and has earned it.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
And I'll just tell you this moncey, Like I'm not
trying to, like in any way shoot you down from
where you were, and it's it's a challenge to me.
Like I think I'm a better broadcaster. I think this
show is better now than it was last year, was
better than was two years ago.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Whatever, h you really improved.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
No, I that's not to say you were crummy.
Speaker 11 (14:41):
I know I feel trust me, I know I I
feel better like I thank you.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Thank you, thank you again.
Speaker 12 (14:49):
I'm getting a much.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
I'm thankful.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
And by the way, you're fired.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
What what what do you got there?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Jase two?
Speaker 4 (14:58):
You know me, I wake up every morning and I
tried to look for sports content and literally the gift
that keeps on giving me as a professional is Aaron Rodgers.
He did something yesterday yet again you know that whole
vaccinated verse, an immunized thing from COVID that really rubbed
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people the wrong way. And then I guess he did
another thing this week where he plays with his wording.
He's intentional or unintentional with his wording. He talked about
the report that he doesn't want to play for the
Jets next year, now keep in mind what word he
doesn't use in this response.
Speaker 13 (15:44):
I've really enjoyed my time in New York. I mean,
obviously we haven't had success that we've all wanted to have,
but you know, I've made some great friendships on the team,
and I came here to win here, So I'm not
jumping off ship, you know, Like, oh, I definitely want
to play and not in New York. I don't even
know if I want to play yet, but New York
will be my first jobs.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Huh. Well, there's another team in town with New York
in their name. There's two teams in town. Yeah, and
they don't have a quarterback. He never said the Jets.
He definitely said New York. He said not New York.
That was a weird way. But anyways, thank you, Aaron Rodgers.
Do you keep giving us that look for sports content
every day something to react to, and I'll always appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Okay, I will do the Mansie thing because my thing's
pretty awesome, right, Like, I don't have one cool job.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I got two cool jobs. I'm thankful, so I am.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I'm truly, I truly have great gratitude for Scott Shapiro,
who has the same vision I do of what I
can do with my time and allow me to coach
at Green Bay. And then Josh Bonho it's his birthday today.
He's my boss at Green Bay, and Mike Alexander, our chancellor,
hired me. So truly thankful in regards to sports. How
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can that be thankful that the Cowboys think this year? Right,
it's literally the gift that keeps giving, you know, And
I just love it, Like they kept getting closer and
closer and then all of a sudden, you know, kind
of like.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Uh, who is it? Is it?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Sally who pulls out the football from from Charlie Brown when.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
He's kissing the Lucy. Sorry, Sally, Sorry, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
I really didn't know, mustang Sally.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
I feel like I feel like the football gods are
like Lucy, and the Cowboys are like Charlie Brown thinking
they're going to kick this field goal.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
It's gonna be a well, you know, we keep getting
closer and closer.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Now said now they suck, And I think that's just
splendid because we can all unite. Look, Democrats, Republicans, we're
having a tough time getting along in this country, right,
but we can all unite and make fun of cowboys
fans who want to believe every year.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Is their year, and it's just not so. I am
thankful to cowboys stink.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
I'm glad you brought up peanuts. I have a quick
aside about a Charlie Brown Christmas.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Charlie Brown thanks Giving better than a Charlie Brown Christmas.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Ok ahead, I'll take your word for it. I don't
remember seeing a Charlie Brown Thanksgiving up. It's got to
be better than a Charlie Brown Christmas. Because here's here's
my opinion of that. You know, usually holiday shows or
movies you watch to be in a good mood, you
want the holiday spirit. I watched that a couple of
years ago because we were going to do it for
a podcast. It's depressing and it makes you feel awful
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about the world. And I never knew that growing up
because it was it was a cartoon. It must have
been fun and exciting. I dare you to watch that
and not walk away depressed. A Charlie Brown Christmas. Put
that in your cue. Sam, you got a list of things?
What else you heard?
Speaker 6 (18:55):
Think?
Speaker 10 (18:55):
I had another thing? By the way, Charles Schultz, he
wasn't messing around. That guy was deep, he was heavy.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
The talented guy ye wasn't messing around was that he
wasn't messing around Charles Schultz.
Speaker 10 (19:08):
He was not messing around with those of those comics.
I'm gonna go back a few years ago when we
didn't have any fans in the stands because of COVID,
and I was eagerly anticipating fans coming back in twenty
twenty one, singing this little diddy.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
Fans take them stands. Fans take them stands. Fans take
them stands. Yeah, fans take.
Speaker 10 (19:31):
Let's not forget that. When we didn't have fans in
the stands, it was weird. It didn't feel as important.
The games felt kind of meetingless, especially in college football.
So I am happy that it wasn't that long ago.
It wasn't just a few years ago, like two and
a half years ago, that we maybe three and a
half years ago, whatever it was that we didn't have
any fans in stands because of COVID. It was a
weird time that feels both near in our memory but
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also kind of far away. A lot's happened since then,
but I am happy that everyone gets to come back,
and you know, it's it's life is pretty much back
to normal, and I'm thankful for that.
Speaker 12 (20:06):
Yeah, he's not getting the.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Midway, Yeah we got more. While are we done with
the Midway?
Speaker 10 (20:14):
Just I'm just throwing that stinger in there. It's to
you know, it's like little reset there.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
I'm thankful for the Chargers. Monsei's a Chargers fan, Duve's
a Chargers fan. I mean, I keep saying this. I'm
sound like a broken record, but I honestly had no
expectations for this team this year. I was ready to
punt on it. If they would have won three games,
I wouldn't have been surprised or disappointed, because I know
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Harbaugh has a plan. He doesn't even have his guys
in there yet. He's got a lot of Telesco's, uh
you know, also rans in there, and he's winning. Maybe
maybe they're gonna start losing here as DK Dobbins is out,
is it? DK JK Dobbins.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
Metcalf Metcalf.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Maybe they're in for a bad December, But I don't care.
They've already far exceeded my expectations. Thank you Jim Harbaugh.
Thank you Alex Spanos for spending the money on Jim.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
I mean that's that's one of those where like everybody's like, yeah,
it'll work, and then you had to think like okay,
but it doesn't work right away, right like you strip
it down, his tear back up and all of a sudden,
it's good. I'm thankful for the Dodgers winning. Not because
I'm a Dodger fan. I don't. I honestly don't care
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that much. But there's two things. One, I work with
Jason daily, and I just his his love for the
sport of baseball. The detail by which he follows the
Chargers is the Chargers, Chargers and the Dodgers is admirable,
but it also kind of made him look foolish because
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he was calling Mookie Bett's choker and Matt Holliday follows
him on Twitter, and then Mookie Betts was awesome when
he needed to be awesome, and he backed off of that.
But more than anything, like when you work with a
guy who's really really happy now with both of his
sports teams, especially a guy who's kind of perpetually unhappy
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like Jason is, it's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
He's much easier to be around.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
So the Baseball Gods blessing the Dodgers with a World
Series win has blessed all of us with the happiest
version of Jason Stewart, which exists not that happy in
the grand scheme of things, but in comparison to normal
Jason Stewart, it's been fun.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Oh thanks, I think, I think, I think, I think.
I don't. I don't know if I could be more excited,
to be honest. That that's Sam's drop of me. That
was that the one.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
Drop we have of Jason. It's very fitting.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
That's good play. That drop and Dan Buyer's dropper I
for each other. I don't. I don't know if I
could be more excited, to be honest.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
Come on, hold on, I don't know how to hold on.
I don't have it. We got to move on. I
don't have it right.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Now, Sam, you have one jobs more than we're thankful for,
right one more thing?
Speaker 6 (23:06):
Yes for me at least?
Speaker 10 (23:07):
Okay, Nebraska, Iowa on Black Friday, Nebraska and Monsieur.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
What do you thankful for?
Speaker 10 (23:13):
Nebraska is Bowl eligible for the first time since twenty sixteen,
so there's a little more at stake here. The last
six games in this in this the rivalry quote unquote
the Heroes.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
Game have been won possession games.
Speaker 10 (23:23):
They've been wild, crazy, walk off field goals, late interceptions,
just madness. It's been crazy. So I'm happy. I'm excited
for that. I'm thankful for the Black Friday game. It's
a night game in Iowa City, you know, so I'm
thankful for that.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
It's it's a good rivalry and I'm looking forward to
it as the Crow flies. How what's the distance between
Lincoln and Iowa City.
Speaker 10 (23:45):
Oh Man, in terms of miles er time as the
crow flies? As the flies, it is pretty much a
straight line. I'd say it's about four to five hours,
because you got to go Iowa City to Omaha's four
hours and then you got to go a little more
west to get to Lincoln.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
So it's a pretty quick.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Fur hours than sixteen minutes.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
There you go. I was I said forty five. That's
not bad.
Speaker 10 (24:08):
But the last six games have been one possession game,
so it's been a good, fun rivalry. And it's on
Black Friday. I get to watch it at night with
my folks, have fireplace running. So I'm thankful for that.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
I'm thankful.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
I'm thankful. I got more things I'm thankful for.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I'm thankful for the Jets sucking, not because and you
guys know, like I was friends of Aaron Rodgers, like
we're not friendly, Like I don't wish bad upon anybody,
but it was this we've heard so often, like, you know,
you got to empower players, You got to give these
star players a chance to make some of these decisions
because they know that was Aaron Rodgers' whole thing was
(24:45):
like the Packers wouldn't listen to me, Well they listened
to him in New York.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
How'd that work out? You know?
Speaker 1 (24:50):
And again this is this is not knocking players, but
what you have to understand is, and I've legit done
this where I've hung out Jason knows this to be
a reality with the Rams and the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Packers have let me in on a little bit.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
But like you have professionals that like all they do
is trying to evaluate. Doesn't mean they're always going to
be right, but all they do is evaluate, evaluate, to
valuate and try and figure out the whole jigsaw puzzle
of a team and salaries whatever. And you have players
that they have no real understanding of. I mean, and
Aaron Rodgers like, yeah, he plays against other teams, but
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he doesn't. He can't evaluate his players versus others who's available,
and doesn't know all the other things that play.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Let people do their jobs. Let people do their jobs.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
And the Jets as an absolute abject laughing stock disaster
where everyone has gotten fired, are just a sign of
this idea of like, players should have a say, but
it should not be the say, not the say. And
that's the midway.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Hold that's a duck out the show.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
I don't know if I could be more excited, to
be honest, hold on, hold on.
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Speaker 1 (26:18):
Doug gotlab Dan by him for Dan Danet's Dan Patrick
Show Fox Sports Radio. Obviously, Tom Brady was on the
call yesterday of the Giants Cowboys game, right that was
the big America's what do we call it, America's Football
game of America's I forget America's game where he's on
(26:41):
the Cowboys Giants call and Dan, I don't know if
you heard this, okay, but this was Tom Brady said
this about Daniel Jones asking to be released by the Giants.
Speaker 7 (26:52):
I don't know how the whole situation went down, but
to think that you would ask for a release from
a team that committed a lot to you is maybe different.
Speaker 6 (27:00):
Than I would have handled that.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
I always felt I wanted to get the trust and
respect of my teammates, regardless situation, knowing that I was
trying to do the best I could for the team
because that.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
Was the most important thing. There were just some different
things that.
Speaker 7 (27:12):
Happened in the NFL, and everyone makes individual choices, and
I think we're all at points in our career face
different challenges. I faced them in college and some things
didn't go the way I wanted. But the people that
mattered most of me were the guys in the locker room.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
I showed up every day.
Speaker 7 (27:27):
I don't care if they asked me to be Scout
team safety, the Scout team quarterback.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
I was going to do whatever I could to help
the team win.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
So Tom Brady like, it sounds great to say, right,
It's like, man, I would have showed up no matter
what I would have been Scout team safety. The problem
with it is it's so far from the reality where
Daniel Jones actually offered up to be the scout team safety.
(27:54):
The problem is that the way in which these contracts
are constructed, and we'll have Mark Dominic and second Dan,
but you know this is they can't the Giants can't
put him out there even for practice, for risk of injury,
because if he gets hurt even at practice, well then
they owe him even more money. Right that contract is
(28:15):
already in Alba. Trust it gets even worse.
Speaker 6 (28:19):
There's there's a lot to it.
Speaker 14 (28:20):
And I also look at as just as Brady trying
to make the transition as a broadcaster and Mike Florio
often frequent guest with the Dan Patrick. Obviously on The
Dan Patrick Show, Florio pointed out that this is your
job as an analyst to do this sort of thing,
to get that information. I understand that you're coming from
the player's perspective, but I think a simple conversation, which
(28:41):
was Florio's point, would have solved this whole riddle for
Tom Brady. Instead to give his perspective the way that
he did.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
It's really interesting because I would I would say that
if I had my analysis of his analysis generally is
he's been he's been way over prepared and he has
he's got to do games for a couple of years
and you know, in order to truly get comfortable and
just find his voice. But in this particular case, it
(29:10):
felt like Tom Brady was It was like his Ted talk.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
You know.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
It was like one of those Instagram reels on Tom
Brady that has made him very popular, which is like
I would have shown up to work no matter what,
no matter what, Like, yeah, dude, all you got to
do is make a call. You're Tom Brady. They're gonna
pick up the phone. And they would have said, like, hey, look,
he wanted to go there, but they don't want him around, okay,
because he can't participate if he gets hurt, costs us
(29:34):
more money. Like he actually did a solid by the
team by removing himself from the situation.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
All right, more on that to come. Let's welcome in.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Mark Dominic, of course, was a former gentle manager of
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. By the way, he joins us
weekly on the Doug Gottlieb Show. You should check out
those hits. Just download the Doug Gotlieb Show podcast. Mark,
am I am I wrong?
Speaker 3 (29:52):
That?
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Like Tom Brady said, it's one of those like grand
standing get applause from people Tom was up to work
no matter what, when the reality is that it's better
for everybody if you decide to move on from Daniel Jones,
to not have him around the organization.
Speaker 9 (30:10):
Morning, guys, And yeah, I agree. I hope you guys
had a good Thanksgiving and hopefully enjoyed the games. But
I agree with you guys. I mean, it's pretty standard
in times they're in this kind of position, right not
where his contract is just overbearing and the reality is
the organization's moving on and walking away, and so therefore
he can't see it from that lens. But he could
have been better prepared for that comment. I'm sure he
(30:32):
faced a little bit of backlash today, has deserved. But no,
this is a decision made around the table with the agent,
player club, et cetera, all deciding that that's the best interest.
And I don't disagree that he shouldn't be there. I
am sure that with the injuries that it looks like
he could have played, they would have still gone through lock.
And so it is what it is.
Speaker 14 (30:54):
Is it simple enough, since we're talking about Daniel Jones,
that the Vikings make this move just basically just for
insurance purposes for the rest of the season, because it
seems like they have a future. What do you think
was going through the mind of Quasio Delpha Menza making
that signing for Minnesota.
Speaker 9 (31:11):
Yeah, I think I think they're just kind of looking
at all things. I think they're kind of looking at
from a perspective of not sure where their quarterback is
in terms of health, knowing that more than the likely
Sam Donald's going to find a different home in twenty
twenty five, and therefore we can already be protected with
some backup quarterback and get to see him and let
our coaches get to feel him, understand him, and see
(31:33):
what ticks and let our coaches have a little play
with him. We've seen what they've been with Sam Donald
and be making Minnesota relevant in twenty twenty four, and
I think that they're trying to say, hey, let's kick
the tires on this one. So I think it's a
longer term move, depending on if Daniel Jones likes the
environments as much as maybe they like Daniel Jones.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
I would also say, Mark, you tell me if I'm wrong. Okay,
there's something in basketball. You have basketball families, footballs, you
have football families.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I think it's brilliant.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Daniel Jones and his agent in that they don't really
have a connection to the Shanahan tree and knowing that system,
the verbiage how everything works. And this gives Daniel Jones,
you know, the next couple of months to learn the system,
which doesn't mean it works in Minnesota. But if you
look throughout the league, Kevin O'Connell has connections with everybody else.
(32:23):
It puts him in a completely different football family and
gives them an opportunity because that's what you do, right
Like when you have a new coach, you're bringing a
guy who knows the system, whether starter or backup. And
I think it's a brilliant move from that perspective. Could
that be what the agent's thinking.
Speaker 9 (32:39):
Oh, I think absolutely. I think you know, you're looking
at what's the best offense right now in the NFL,
who's having the most successful You're thinking of those situations.
You're thinking, who's you know, who's been able to resurrect
careers or create careers. You're thinking that situation. So it
makes a ton of sense. And again on the practice
squad or anythink that you're not married to anything because
you're Daniel Jones, So right now you're as much getting
data as you're trying to date. And so I think
(33:01):
in that spot it really works well for him to
see if he enjoys the system, enjoys the coaching, and
enjoys the environment. Or is this just a quick stop,
you know, learning more and then finding a different place
in twenty twenty five, one three, or when the end
of the season hits and you decide if you're going
to sign a practice quad guys back or not.
Speaker 14 (33:18):
Mark Dominic joining us here on the Dan Patrick Show.
We're obviously going to talk about Matt Eberfluss and the Bears.
He said today he's met with Ryan Poles, is met
with Kevin Warren. We'll have a meeting later on. What
do you say, what are the questions you're asking your
head coach after that end of game debacle yesterday in Detroit?
Speaker 9 (33:38):
Well, I have a hard time. You know, they complete
that pass without the face in the hands of the
face and they're at the thirteen yard line and they
have a hit to win. Instead they do get the penalty,
so it's a twenty two yard penalty in theory, and
then they turn around and get sacked. I feel like
someone and it shows you that the lack of I
(34:00):
guess maturity on Caleb Williams to not understand that this
is a moment where you can't just wait for the call.
You either got to take the time out, throw a
ball that gets yourself a deal goal position, or something
on the sideline should be taking the time out. To
me that, I'm Ryan Coles, I'm trying to understand. Why
didn't we just burn the timeout. I know, you know
we would have to get the ball, you know, spiked,
or we'd have to throw it to the sidelines, But
(34:21):
how do we let the clock expire? And to me,
that's a big question. And as a GM, I don't
ask that question last night. I asked you this morning.
It's too emotional last night. It's going to be hard
to get the right answer. It's going to have a no.
This morning, you walk in with your head coach and
you said, there, let's go through the chain of events
and how that played out last night and talk to
me about what you have seen. I think Mattieberflus makes
(34:42):
it through this weekend. I know he's very confident that
he'll make it through the weekend. I just don't know
if it's really because the Bears have been playing a
little better, and certainly the second half was shocking for
them to make it come back. This game should have been,
you know, out the door in the first half. Obviously
by the way the Lions just kind of blendered in
the red zone. But I think you hold on to
Matt Eberflus for at least the other week or two
(35:03):
and you are going through the process. You know, if
Ryan Pulls may not know what's going on, he might
be part of those you know, the sweeping, So you know,
to ask your jim and manager what's going on may
not be the best question, But I think you hold
onto everything for a week or two more. But behind
the scenes, as Kevin.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Warren, yeah, Mark, Mark, how do you not fire somebody again?
And if it was just this game, okay, But they're
lining up to beat the Green Bay Packers who have
owned them for the better part of a decade, and
the guy sits on a forty six yard field goal
that gets blocked. Again, not his fault that the trajectory
(35:39):
was so low or that the blocking was bad. That's like,
not technically his fault. But this is not the first,
and then you go to the commander's game. Again, not
necessarily his fault that he's got a cornerback who's who's
dancing and celebrating while the ball is already snapped, but
it is that that's his football.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Team, Like how do you can see you?
Speaker 1 (36:01):
And again, Mark, you know I'm a coach, I'm actually
sensitive to this thing. But how do you not fire
somebody today?
Speaker 9 (36:08):
I just think where you at in the season a
change to take a change of where you sit as
an organization, is it really going to change the outcome?
I mean you got to look at your own staff
and say who would I want to be the head coach?
And why? And what?
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Maybe maybe not?
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Maybe not the head coaches, Like somebody's literally got to
get like somebody has to get There has to be
some level of accountability, doesn't there or just like, hey,
he's gonna get fired anyway, let's just like let him
play out the string.
Speaker 9 (36:36):
I don't know, Well, it's like this, you know, and
as you said, and you know, in the end, I
don't think that he won't get fired. I just don't
think they'll do it right now that they might. But
you talked about the three situations, and one was on offense,
one was on defense, one was on special chief Now
that also points back to it's the team not coming together,
but they're also in a position to beat the camp commanders,
(36:56):
in position to possibly beat the lines, in position to
possibly beat the you know, the packers. So you got
to look at from like we're right on the cusp
of maybe things are starting to turn. Even though we're
screwing up and lose these games. It's not like we're
getting thraddled or be bad like we've seen some other teams.
And so I think that's the only reason they're holding on.
But I think change those things it's going to happen.
(37:17):
I don't think that's I think that's inevitable. I just
don't know if you just have to do it just
to make a point to whom I am, they're going
to stay.
Speaker 14 (37:25):
Can I get one more on this Bears thing, because
and I said this to Doug earlier, Mark and I
said it yesterday when it happened. I don't understand how
in this day, in the age of the NFL, you
have a kicker that can't kick one fifty eight yards indoors.
Is that maybe we see guys now trying sixty four
yard field goals. The longest field goal in NFL history
(37:47):
happened in that stadium yesterday, And to me, that's a
that's that's the Bears telling on themselves that they don't
even have a good enough kicker that they, by the way,
wanted to settle for a forty six yard or two
weeks go. Like, it doesn't make a lot of sense
to me.
Speaker 9 (38:03):
No, and I don't disagree. I think we've seen certainly
a change in the evolution of tickers. I mean, it's
easy to make fifty orders, and it does say something
that you have no confidence that you can make the
big kick in the big moment, especially when time running
out and the odds of you you know, they're not
going to convert a first down. I hated the end
of the game, like I was nauseous. I was like,
there's no way they're going to lose this game, at
(38:23):
least to go into overtime and see if they somehow
can pull off this miracle upset. But the Bears did
a Bears thing, and I know that goes back to
Doug what you're saying, it's some of these got heads
got a roll. I just you know, no one, not
knowing the McCaskey family, but just knowing the overall run
with Kevin Warren. I just think that they're probably like,
we fire him, Maybe we don't want to win more games.
(38:45):
Maybe were't a position where we're comfortable or our draft
pick is right now, even though it's not ideal that
we're not in a bad spot based off of meeting
that first runt pick going forward.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
No, that's that's the only I told Jason to sue
at our producer, like that's the only liable explanation that
I would actually go like, okay, that makes it make
it look so such like such a mess, like oh
my god, I can't believe we lost this game. And
then you go in the locker iom like, dude, we
lost that game. We keep our draft pick. That's the
only thing that could that could get you out of
jail free. It was was I'm with you, I'm watching
(39:17):
with my coaches, and we're we just finished Thanksgiving dinner,
and we were all like, oh, okay, what do we
have to prepare for that we have not because this
looks terrible. It just looked I cannot believe how that
game ended. Mark Dominic joining us here on the Dan
Patrick Show, uh with with Dan Byram. I'm Doug gottliebe
(39:37):
in for Dan and the dan Nets. Do the Dolphins
have a cold weather problem or a TUA problem?
Speaker 9 (39:47):
I want to lean towards more of a cold weather
you know, obviously it's a very tough game for them
as well, where you know, they had a chance to
kind of close the game out and Lambeau, but they couldn't.
I got to give credit to Jeck Halfley, the defensive coordinator.
They did a good job of making it difficult onto
it and you know, being able to stuff them in
the red zone and then turn around and gets pressures
(40:08):
and sacks. I think that Jeff Hackley has done a
really good job with that defense for the most part.
And you know, I think it's more again it's it's
not I think two is in a good spot. I
think he's going to be okay as long as he
stays healthy. I don't think some dolphinsteresting to go. We
got to get a different quarterback. I think it was
more just I think you got to give credits to
the defensive side of Jeff Hays, the coordinator.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Well, it was it was a It was a dominating performance,
no interceptions from from Jordan Love, which is a first
this year, and the Packers look like they're playing their
best best football. I hope you had a great Thanksgiving, Mark.
We love talking football with you. Enjoy your Black Friday sports,
and we'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 9 (40:46):
Yeah, I'm very curious to see what Aidan O'Connell does
today for the Raiders. Then the whole season will be
waiting to see if he's any good. It doesn't really
matter so much, but it does to the Raiders brass
to see if you can do anything against his Chiefs today.
So it'll be fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
It will be fun to watch. He's Mark Dominique. She
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We've got John Middlecoff joining us. We'll get a little
MVP discussion. Aaron Rodgers has talked about his future. I
was we'll talk to Ryan Day a little bit later
on the show as they get ready to play Michigan.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Obviously, this is a yeah, ude.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
We love that you beat Penn State, that you've beaten,
that you beat Indiana last week, that you're going to
the college football playoff and probably going to the Big
Ten Championship game. But you gotta beat Michigan, especially this year,
Michigan coming off probably.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Their best performance of the season.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
My team lost to Ohio State last night, But I
had no idea that on Michigan week, every m on
campus is like crossed out, like there's.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
A red X on it.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
It's pretty cool college sports man. Can't beat it, can't
beat it. But while we were playing and then ultimately
losing to Ohio State late in the second half, same
was happening. By the way, for the LA Chargers. Now,
if we're honest with ourselves, and I think I'm a
pretty honest LA Charger fan, that seven and four at
(01:58):
this point the season is outstanding. That being right there
in the game is incredible, especially when you consider, you know,
your wide receivers are Palmer, Lad McConkey, Jalen Rager, and
of course Quinton Johnson, who couldn't catch a cold at
dead of winner. So when there was that huge Quinton
Johnson drop, you're like, Yeah, what's what's actually new unless
(02:20):
you just started watching the Chargers of this year or
the last couple of weeks where it started to catch
football here's John Harbaugh. I'll talk about beating his brother.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
It was kind of ear muffs in that sense, and
I know it was for Jim too. I mean because
in the end, it's like it's true, it's meaningful, it matters,
it's just something that it's just an incredible thing. I mean,
it just it means. It does mean a lot, and
I'm so proud of him. It's an amazing thing to
look back to where we to, where we are, you know,
from where we came and all the all the different
we got different paths. You know, we grew up in
(02:49):
the same room, you know, and kind of kind of
I've always lived our life side by side. But that's
not what the game's about.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
The game really is.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
About the players, and the players are always going to
win the game or lose a game or whatever. It's
just a And that's why strong and courageous is such
a big deal because it takes so much to play
this game. It's got to be strong and courageous to
play football, you really do at this level. These guys
sacrifice so much and they go out there and they
just throw everything on the line. And I have so
much respect for players. Jim's the same way. We both
(03:18):
try to treat our players with great respect and admiration
and love, you know, and because that's how we feel
about him.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Here's Lamar Jackson talking about one to help us coach
Peter's brother.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
You know, I feel like, for me being a big brother,
it's like I can't lose to my.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
Little brother, you know.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
And that's what I believe going into that game, he
was thinking a lot, you know. And then Jim on
the other side, I believe he was like, I gotta
get my I gotta beat my big brother, but became
out victorious. So I feel like that's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, I honestly think that has nothing to do with
it. It's cool. It's cool.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Here's Lamar Jackson having this exchange with a report. Are
about a ceiling for.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Shots catch and you know, also Mark making that grab
on the jump ball and Justice ripped out the fifty
one yard run.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
How much did those guys? How much is your ceiling?
Speaker 7 (04:13):
Is your ability to reach your ceiling affected by those
guys doing those kinds of plays.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
I mean, those guys are doing their job.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
They're supposed to do that.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
You know.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
If I play on the ball, I believe I expect
them to catch it, and I believe they expect they
gonna catch the ball, you know as well. And Justice Hill,
he just you know, bounced the ball outside and just
went for what he knew and then it was great
bo Botle receivers that that led that way in off Salon.
But like I said, I believe those guys should catch.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
The ball regardless if you touched them.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
Hands catch the ball.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Ah, if it touched them, hands catch the ball. And
then there's Quinton Johnson, Jay stew what was the experience, like, uh,
you're smoking out a girlfriend watching Monday night football with you.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Yeah, that was Ah, that was a tough one. So
there's a couple here. I don't know if the Chargers
win that game last night if he makes that catch,
but the game looks very different if Quinton Johnson takes
a ball thrown right into his hands. I think he
had like fifty yards ahead of him, as Troy Aigman
had described, And it does one of two things. First,
(05:17):
it obviously it was a third down, so they had
to punt. And it was just like a like a
blow like it was just a momentum killer. So yeah,
that was a tough one. But I'm proud of the Chargers.
I've said this before. If they would have won three
games this season, I wouldn't have been surprised or disappointed.
(05:38):
So it's all gravy at this point.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I thought Troy Aigman went soft at one point in time,
or or maybe he and I don't think this is
the case because I have found Troy to be exceptionally
well prepared.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Especially since move over to ESPN.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
That you know, he's like, it's just a lack of concentration, like, well,
he hasn't been concentrating for a long time, right, because
this is who he is.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
In Quentin Johnson, he.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Either has bad hands or lacks concentration or a combination
of both. But he had kind of had a breakthrough
or we thought a breakthrough a couple weeks before catching
the football, and that breakthrough or any feelings of a
breakthrough obviously went away because of the performance where he
had zero he had zero catches that one. That one,
(06:32):
What are we exactly going to do with that? You know,
I'm not really sure this is the Doug Gottlieb Show
here on Fox Sports Radio, but I'm still kind of
stuck on these Ravens where now because their defense is
so average, especially and below average for the Ravens. Right
(06:55):
like for most teams, the Ravens defense is slightly less
than what it should be. For the Ravens, it's a
debacle because the Ravens are known for their defense, which
means the playoffs are going to be even more on
Lamar Jackson than they've ever been before. And all these
wins are great, but if we're honest with ourselves, we're
(07:18):
going to judge Lamar Jackson based upon what he does
in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Fair, unfair.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
That's where he is the player regular season beyond almost
beyond reproach. Now, he came off of a disappointing game
against Pittsburgh Steelers, and he was better last night. He
was good last night and they won the game. But
how he performs in the playoffs is paramount for how
he's going to be judged all time. And to this
point he's been successful only in small doses and unsuccessful
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on the grand scheme. I think that's a fair way
to look at him. And it really is the fact
that the Chargers are in those games and have those opportunities.
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weather experience. Won't be super cold. Start kickoff in the thirties.
(09:09):
By yeah, you know, most of the game be in
the twenties. That's that's cold enough here from southern California.
Speaker 9 (09:14):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Full disclosure.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I do have the seats that I was I was
given by Scott and Kelly Perry.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
They are in the club section.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
So though the seats are outside and you can go
inside anytime you want, and it's like a big sports
bar inside. It's really really cool. So I'll be toughing
it out. I won't be in the lower bowl. It's
not We're not it's not that kind of toughness. But
I'm really really excited to go to my first ever
cold weather game.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Whish there was a little snow, right.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Does feel like, uh, you know, having a cold weather
game with cold wether with no snow makes no sense
to me, no sense to me. It's like unsweetened tea.
What's the point?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Right?
Speaker 1 (09:58):
What we do every Wednesday, Wednesday is hum Day. Wednesday
is the middle of the week. This is the middle
of the show because we have a one hour podcast
which drops at the end of the show. So you
can download it or if you download podcasts, including the
Doug Gotlieve Show podcast, but it's downloadable.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
So this is the middle of the week.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
This is the middle of the show, and it's also
kind of the middle of your day, right the middle
of your day, especially if you're on the West coast.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
So we do something we call the Midway. It's not
getting It's time for the.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Midway, all right there, Jay Stu.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
We do let you at times go kind of.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Kind of classic radio topics, really create a conversation.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
What's the topic today?
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Thanks Doug, I'll take it from here.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Okay there, Jason.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Thanksgiving is tomorrow and I want to get really.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Like Thanksgiving already.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
It's incredible.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I just cleaned up for my Halloween decoration before you
know what.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
It's going to be December twenty fifth, and we all
know what that means. I can't say it on the
radio in this political correct society, but hey, today is
for the Midway. We're gonna do. What are the things
in sports that we are most thankful of? You know,
it's a time of year where we give thanks to things,
and the four of us work in sports. I'm thankful
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all we do is sports, and we're very thankful for that.
First and foremost. I'll speak for everybody in the room.
Cool job, but I want specifics here. What is the
thing you are most thankful for? I'm going to start
it with Sam because he says he's got a list.
Should we go like around the room, one thing each
and then keep going how this goes every week? Sam,
welcome aboard. Here we go.
Speaker 10 (11:43):
Oh yeah, all right, I'm gonna start with this. I'm
thankful for the Lions being good, being musty TV. They've
always play on Thanksgiving. But you know, prior to a
few years ago, they were not great. They were not
musty TV. And let's admit that, you know, have.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
To say they're not great. They were terrible.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
They were terrible. Yeah, terrible, Yes, sure, terrible.
Speaker 10 (12:02):
And you know this isn't you know, this is against
the Bears. You know it's a NFC North divisional game.
The Bears aren't great and they're figuring it out. But
I'm thankful for the Lions being good because the other
two games are one is just flat out week terrible
Giants and Cowboys, and then Dolphins Packers. This is kind
of mid I think the but the Dolphins are playing
much better, so it's actually not such a terrible game.
(12:24):
I'm thankful though that we get to watch the Lions
because we seek out the Lions any other time of
the week. Yeah, that's what I'm going with Lions being
great and they're on Thanksgiving and we have something look
forward to.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Yeah, the Lions. In during Dan Campbell's first year, they
won three games. Previously that five, three, six, nine nine.
Jim callwell, remember I had them pretty decent. They won
eleven games, but they've had double digit wins okay, twice
since nineteen ninety six, previous to these last two years.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Twice. So yeah, they were putrid.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
And every year on Thanksgiving of the day after Thanksgiving,
there'd be some radio topic or some producer would come
into my studio and would say like, why are the
lines playing? And now we're finally rewarded for it? So
that's good with MONSI.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
What do you got?
Speaker 11 (13:15):
All Right, Well, you guys are again you're gonna be like,
you're so cliche.
Speaker 12 (13:18):
Okay, so my first year is.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Kind of a cliche segment. So don't worry about being
cliche in because the.
Speaker 12 (13:23):
First year I got hired in twenty twenty two. This
will be the third Thanksgiving i'm here, but my first Thanksgiving,
we did something like this of what we were thankful
with your show, Doug, and I was like, I am
just so thankful for this job and to be honest
with you guys, like because of the layoffs, I still
I am still so like shocked that I get to
do this for a living and I'm so thankful that
(13:43):
I get to work with you guys and work on
the Doug Gottlieb Show and do this.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Like should be thankful. I really am. I really am.
Speaker 11 (13:50):
And you know, like we just had those layoffs, so
it was like a scary time and I'm literally I'm
getting a little bit emotional because like it's it's hard
to work in this business and to stay in it,
and so I'm just I'm very thankful, very grateful, very
happy to be here with you guys on a Wednesday.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
And also go Clippers.
Speaker 12 (14:05):
I'm also thankful for.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
My clippers because Paul George, They're still the best. Okay,
thank you. I'm thankful.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Monsey earned it. By the way, Moncey earned it. She
got three Thanksgivings ago and has earned it.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
And I'll just tell you this moncey, Like I'm not
trying to, like in any way shoot you down from
where you were, and it's it's a challenge to me.
Like I think I'm a better broadcaster. I think this
show is better now than it was last year, was
better than was two years ago.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Whatever, h you really improved.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
No, I that's not to say you were crummy.
Speaker 11 (14:41):
I know I feel trust me, I know I I
feel better like I thank you.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Thank you, thank you again.
Speaker 12 (14:49):
I'm getting a much.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
I'm thankful.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
And by the way, you're fired.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
What what what do you got there?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Jase two?
Speaker 4 (14:58):
You know me, I wake up every morning and I
tried to look for sports content and literally the gift
that keeps on giving me as a professional is Aaron Rodgers.
He did something yesterday yet again you know that whole
vaccinated verse, an immunized thing from COVID that really rubbed
(15:23):
people the wrong way. And then I guess he did
another thing this week where he plays with his wording.
He's intentional or unintentional with his wording. He talked about
the report that he doesn't want to play for the
Jets next year, now keep in mind what word he
doesn't use in this response.
Speaker 13 (15:44):
I've really enjoyed my time in New York. I mean,
obviously we haven't had success that we've all wanted to have,
but you know, I've made some great friendships on the team,
and I came here to win here, So I'm not
jumping off ship, you know, Like, oh, I definitely want
to play and not in New York. I don't even
know if I want to play yet, but New York
will be my first jobs.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Huh. Well, there's another team in town with New York
in their name. There's two teams in town. Yeah, and
they don't have a quarterback. He never said the Jets.
He definitely said New York. He said not New York.
That was a weird way. But anyways, thank you, Aaron Rodgers.
Do you keep giving us that look for sports content
every day something to react to, and I'll always appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Okay, I will do the Mansie thing because my thing's
pretty awesome, right, Like, I don't have one cool job.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I got two cool jobs. I'm thankful, so I am.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I'm truly, I truly have great gratitude for Scott Shapiro,
who has the same vision I do of what I
can do with my time and allow me to coach
at Green Bay. And then Josh Bonho it's his birthday today.
He's my boss at Green Bay, and Mike Alexander, our chancellor,
hired me. So truly thankful in regards to sports. How
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can that be thankful that the Cowboys think this year? Right,
it's literally the gift that keeps giving, you know, And
I just love it, Like they kept getting closer and
closer and then all of a sudden, you know, kind
of like.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Uh, who is it? Is it?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Sally who pulls out the football from from Charlie Brown when.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
He's kissing the Lucy. Sorry, Sally, Sorry, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
I really didn't know, mustang Sally.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
I feel like I feel like the football gods are
like Lucy, and the Cowboys are like Charlie Brown thinking
they're going to kick this field goal.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
It's gonna be a well, you know, we keep getting
closer and closer.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Now said now they suck, And I think that's just
splendid because we can all unite. Look, Democrats, Republicans, we're
having a tough time getting along in this country, right,
but we can all unite and make fun of cowboys
fans who want to believe every year.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Is their year, and it's just not so. I am
thankful to cowboys stink.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
I'm glad you brought up peanuts. I have a quick
aside about a Charlie Brown Christmas.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Charlie Brown thanks Giving better than a Charlie Brown Christmas.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Ok ahead, I'll take your word for it. I don't
remember seeing a Charlie Brown Thanksgiving up. It's got to
be better than a Charlie Brown Christmas. Because here's here's
my opinion of that. You know, usually holiday shows or
movies you watch to be in a good mood, you
want the holiday spirit. I watched that a couple of
years ago because we were going to do it for
a podcast. It's depressing and it makes you feel awful
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about the world. And I never knew that growing up
because it was it was a cartoon. It must have
been fun and exciting. I dare you to watch that
and not walk away depressed. A Charlie Brown Christmas. Put
that in your cue. Sam, you got a list of things?
What else you heard?
Speaker 6 (18:55):
Think?
Speaker 10 (18:55):
I had another thing? By the way, Charles Schultz, he
wasn't messing around. That guy was deep, he was heavy.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
The talented guy ye wasn't messing around was that he
wasn't messing around Charles Schultz.
Speaker 10 (19:08):
He was not messing around with those of those comics.
I'm gonna go back a few years ago when we
didn't have any fans in the stands because of COVID,
and I was eagerly anticipating fans coming back in twenty
twenty one, singing this little diddy.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
Fans take them stands. Fans take them stands. Fans take
them stands. Yeah, fans take.
Speaker 10 (19:31):
Let's not forget that. When we didn't have fans in
the stands, it was weird. It didn't feel as important.
The games felt kind of meetingless, especially in college football.
So I am happy that it wasn't that long ago.
It wasn't just a few years ago, like two and
a half years ago, that we maybe three and a
half years ago, whatever it was that we didn't have
any fans in stands because of COVID. It was a
weird time that feels both near in our memory but
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also kind of far away. A lot's happened since then,
but I am happy that everyone gets to come back,
and you know, it's it's life is pretty much back
to normal, and I'm thankful for that.
Speaker 12 (20:06):
Yeah, he's not getting the.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Midway, Yeah we got more. While are we done with
the Midway?
Speaker 10 (20:14):
Just I'm just throwing that stinger in there. It's to
you know, it's like little reset there.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
I'm thankful for the Chargers. Monsei's a Chargers fan, Duve's
a Chargers fan. I mean, I keep saying this. I'm
sound like a broken record, but I honestly had no
expectations for this team this year. I was ready to
punt on it. If they would have won three games,
I wouldn't have been surprised or disappointed, because I know
(20:41):
Harbaugh has a plan. He doesn't even have his guys
in there yet. He's got a lot of Telesco's, uh
you know, also rans in there, and he's winning. Maybe
maybe they're gonna start losing here as DK Dobbins is out,
is it? DK JK Dobbins.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
Metcalf Metcalf.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Maybe they're in for a bad December, But I don't care.
They've already far exceeded my expectations. Thank you Jim Harbaugh.
Thank you Alex Spanos for spending the money on Jim.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
I mean that's that's one of those where like everybody's like, yeah,
it'll work, and then you had to think like okay,
but it doesn't work right away, right like you strip
it down, his tear back up and all of a sudden,
it's good. I'm thankful for the Dodgers winning. Not because
I'm a Dodger fan. I don't. I honestly don't care
(21:36):
that much. But there's two things. One, I work with
Jason daily, and I just his his love for the
sport of baseball. The detail by which he follows the
Chargers is the Chargers, Chargers and the Dodgers is admirable,
but it also kind of made him look foolish because
(21:57):
he was calling Mookie Bett's choker and Matt Holliday follows
him on Twitter, and then Mookie Betts was awesome when
he needed to be awesome, and he backed off of that.
But more than anything, like when you work with a
guy who's really really happy now with both of his
sports teams, especially a guy who's kind of perpetually unhappy
(22:18):
like Jason is, it's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
He's much easier to be around.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
So the Baseball Gods blessing the Dodgers with a World
Series win has blessed all of us with the happiest
version of Jason Stewart, which exists not that happy in
the grand scheme of things, but in comparison to normal
Jason Stewart, it's been fun.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Oh thanks, I think, I think, I think, I think.
I don't. I don't know if I could be more excited,
to be honest. That that's Sam's drop of me. That
was that the one.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
Drop we have of Jason. It's very fitting.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
That's good play. That drop and Dan Buyer's dropper I
for each other. I don't. I don't know if I
could be more excited, to be honest.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
Come on, hold on, I don't know how to hold on.
I don't have it. We got to move on. I
don't have it right.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Now, Sam, you have one jobs more than we're thankful for,
right one more thing?
Speaker 6 (23:06):
Yes for me at least?
Speaker 10 (23:07):
Okay, Nebraska, Iowa on Black Friday, Nebraska and Monsieur.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
What do you thankful for?
Speaker 10 (23:13):
Nebraska is Bowl eligible for the first time since twenty sixteen,
so there's a little more at stake here. The last
six games in this in this the rivalry quote unquote
the Heroes.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
Game have been won possession games.
Speaker 10 (23:23):
They've been wild, crazy, walk off field goals, late interceptions,
just madness. It's been crazy. So I'm happy. I'm excited
for that. I'm thankful for the Black Friday game. It's
a night game in Iowa City, you know, so I'm
thankful for that.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
It's it's a good rivalry and I'm looking forward to
it as the Crow flies. How what's the distance between
Lincoln and Iowa City.
Speaker 10 (23:45):
Oh Man, in terms of miles er time as the
crow flies? As the flies, it is pretty much a
straight line. I'd say it's about four to five hours,
because you got to go Iowa City to Omaha's four
hours and then you got to go a little more
west to get to Lincoln.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
So it's a pretty quick.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Fur hours than sixteen minutes.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
There you go. I was I said forty five. That's
not bad.
Speaker 10 (24:08):
But the last six games have been one possession game,
so it's been a good, fun rivalry. And it's on
Black Friday. I get to watch it at night with
my folks, have fireplace running. So I'm thankful for that.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
I'm thankful.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
I'm thankful. I got more things I'm thankful for.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I'm thankful for the Jets sucking, not because and you
guys know, like I was friends of Aaron Rodgers, like
we're not friendly, Like I don't wish bad upon anybody,
but it was this we've heard so often, like, you know,
you got to empower players, You got to give these
star players a chance to make some of these decisions
because they know that was Aaron Rodgers' whole thing was
(24:45):
like the Packers wouldn't listen to me, Well they listened
to him in New York.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
How'd that work out? You know?
Speaker 1 (24:50):
And again this is this is not knocking players, but
what you have to understand is, and I've legit done
this where I've hung out Jason knows this to be
a reality with the Rams and the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Packers have let me in on a little bit.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
But like you have professionals that like all they do
is trying to evaluate. Doesn't mean they're always going to
be right, but all they do is evaluate, evaluate, to
valuate and try and figure out the whole jigsaw puzzle
of a team and salaries whatever. And you have players
that they have no real understanding of. I mean, and
Aaron Rodgers like, yeah, he plays against other teams, but
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he doesn't. He can't evaluate his players versus others who's available,
and doesn't know all the other things that play.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Let people do their jobs. Let people do their jobs.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
And the Jets as an absolute abject laughing stock disaster
where everyone has gotten fired, are just a sign of
this idea of like, players should have a say, but
it should not be the say, not the say. And
that's the midway.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Hold that's a duck out the show.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
I don't know if I could be more excited, to
be honest, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 8 (26:06):
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Speaker 1 (26:18):
Doug gotlab Dan by him for Dan Danet's Dan Patrick
Show Fox Sports Radio. Obviously, Tom Brady was on the
call yesterday of the Giants Cowboys game, right that was
the big America's what do we call it, America's Football
game of America's I forget America's game where he's on
(26:41):
the Cowboys Giants call and Dan, I don't know if
you heard this, okay, but this was Tom Brady said
this about Daniel Jones asking to be released by the Giants.
Speaker 7 (26:52):
I don't know how the whole situation went down, but
to think that you would ask for a release from
a team that committed a lot to you is maybe different.
Speaker 6 (27:00):
Than I would have handled that.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
I always felt I wanted to get the trust and
respect of my teammates, regardless situation, knowing that I was
trying to do the best I could for the team
because that.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
Was the most important thing. There were just some different
things that.
Speaker 7 (27:12):
Happened in the NFL, and everyone makes individual choices, and
I think we're all at points in our career face
different challenges. I faced them in college and some things
didn't go the way I wanted. But the people that
mattered most of me were the guys in the locker room.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
I showed up every day.
Speaker 7 (27:27):
I don't care if they asked me to be Scout
team safety, the Scout team quarterback.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
I was going to do whatever I could to help
the team win.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
So Tom Brady like, it sounds great to say, right,
It's like, man, I would have showed up no matter
what I would have been Scout team safety. The problem
with it is it's so far from the reality where
Daniel Jones actually offered up to be the scout team safety.
(27:54):
The problem is that the way in which these contracts
are constructed, and we'll have Mark Dominic and second Dan,
but you know this is they can't the Giants can't
put him out there even for practice, for risk of injury,
because if he gets hurt even at practice, well then
they owe him even more money. Right that contract is
(28:15):
already in Alba. Trust it gets even worse.
Speaker 6 (28:19):
There's there's a lot to it.
Speaker 14 (28:20):
And I also look at as just as Brady trying
to make the transition as a broadcaster and Mike Florio
often frequent guest with the Dan Patrick. Obviously on The
Dan Patrick Show, Florio pointed out that this is your
job as an analyst to do this sort of thing,
to get that information. I understand that you're coming from
the player's perspective, but I think a simple conversation, which
(28:41):
was Florio's point, would have solved this whole riddle for
Tom Brady. Instead to give his perspective the way that
he did.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
It's really interesting because I would I would say that
if I had my analysis of his analysis generally is
he's been he's been way over prepared and he has
he's got to do games for a couple of years
and you know, in order to truly get comfortable and
just find his voice. But in this particular case, it
(29:10):
felt like Tom Brady was It was like his Ted talk.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
You know.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
It was like one of those Instagram reels on Tom
Brady that has made him very popular, which is like
I would have shown up to work no matter what,
no matter what, Like, yeah, dude, all you got to
do is make a call. You're Tom Brady. They're gonna
pick up the phone. And they would have said, like, hey, look,
he wanted to go there, but they don't want him around, okay,
because he can't participate if he gets hurt, costs us
(29:34):
more money. Like he actually did a solid by the
team by removing himself from the situation.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
All right, more on that to come. Let's welcome in.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Mark Dominic, of course, was a former gentle manager of
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. By the way, he joins us
weekly on the Doug Gottlieb Show. You should check out
those hits. Just download the Doug Gotlieb Show podcast. Mark,
am I am I wrong?
Speaker 3 (29:52):
That?
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Like Tom Brady said, it's one of those like grand
standing get applause from people Tom was up to work
no matter what, when the reality is that it's better
for everybody if you decide to move on from Daniel Jones,
to not have him around the organization.
Speaker 9 (30:10):
Morning, guys, And yeah, I agree. I hope you guys
had a good Thanksgiving and hopefully enjoyed the games. But
I agree with you guys. I mean, it's pretty standard
in times they're in this kind of position, right not
where his contract is just overbearing and the reality is
the organization's moving on and walking away, and so therefore
he can't see it from that lens. But he could
have been better prepared for that comment. I'm sure he
(30:32):
faced a little bit of backlash today, has deserved. But no,
this is a decision made around the table with the agent,
player club, et cetera, all deciding that that's the best interest.
And I don't disagree that he shouldn't be there. I
am sure that with the injuries that it looks like
he could have played, they would have still gone through lock.
And so it is what it is.
Speaker 14 (30:54):
Is it simple enough, since we're talking about Daniel Jones,
that the Vikings make this move just basically just for
insurance purposes for the rest of the season, because it
seems like they have a future. What do you think
was going through the mind of Quasio Delpha Menza making
that signing for Minnesota.
Speaker 9 (31:11):
Yeah, I think I think they're just kind of looking
at all things. I think they're kind of looking at
from a perspective of not sure where their quarterback is
in terms of health, knowing that more than the likely
Sam Donald's going to find a different home in twenty
twenty five, and therefore we can already be protected with
some backup quarterback and get to see him and let
our coaches get to feel him, understand him, and see
(31:33):
what ticks and let our coaches have a little play
with him. We've seen what they've been with Sam Donald
and be making Minnesota relevant in twenty twenty four, and
I think that they're trying to say, hey, let's kick
the tires on this one. So I think it's a
longer term move, depending on if Daniel Jones likes the
environments as much as maybe they like Daniel Jones.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
I would also say, Mark, you tell me if I'm wrong. Okay,
there's something in basketball. You have basketball families, footballs, you
have football families.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I think it's brilliant.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Daniel Jones and his agent in that they don't really
have a connection to the Shanahan tree and knowing that system,
the verbiage how everything works. And this gives Daniel Jones,
you know, the next couple of months to learn the system,
which doesn't mean it works in Minnesota. But if you
look throughout the league, Kevin O'Connell has connections with everybody else.
(32:23):
It puts him in a completely different football family and
gives them an opportunity because that's what you do, right
Like when you have a new coach, you're bringing a
guy who knows the system, whether starter or backup. And
I think it's a brilliant move from that perspective. Could
that be what the agent's thinking.
Speaker 9 (32:39):
Oh, I think absolutely. I think you know, you're looking
at what's the best offense right now in the NFL,
who's having the most successful You're thinking of those situations.
You're thinking, who's you know, who's been able to resurrect
careers or create careers. You're thinking that situation. So it
makes a ton of sense. And again on the practice
squad or anythink that you're not married to anything because
you're Daniel Jones, So right now you're as much getting
data as you're trying to date. And so I think
(33:01):
in that spot it really works well for him to
see if he enjoys the system, enjoys the coaching, and
enjoys the environment. Or is this just a quick stop,
you know, learning more and then finding a different place
in twenty twenty five, one three, or when the end
of the season hits and you decide if you're going
to sign a practice quad guys back or not.
Speaker 14 (33:18):
Mark Dominic joining us here on the Dan Patrick Show.
We're obviously going to talk about Matt Eberfluss and the Bears.
He said today he's met with Ryan Poles, is met
with Kevin Warren. We'll have a meeting later on. What
do you say, what are the questions you're asking your
head coach after that end of game debacle yesterday in Detroit?
Speaker 9 (33:38):
Well, I have a hard time. You know, they complete
that pass without the face in the hands of the
face and they're at the thirteen yard line and they
have a hit to win. Instead they do get the penalty,
so it's a twenty two yard penalty in theory, and
then they turn around and get sacked. I feel like
someone and it shows you that the lack of I
(34:00):
guess maturity on Caleb Williams to not understand that this
is a moment where you can't just wait for the call.
You either got to take the time out, throw a
ball that gets yourself a deal goal position, or something
on the sideline should be taking the time out. To
me that, I'm Ryan Coles, I'm trying to understand. Why
didn't we just burn the timeout. I know, you know
we would have to get the ball, you know, spiked,
or we'd have to throw it to the sidelines, But
(34:21):
how do we let the clock expire? And to me,
that's a big question. And as a GM, I don't
ask that question last night. I asked you this morning.
It's too emotional last night. It's going to be hard
to get the right answer. It's going to have a no.
This morning, you walk in with your head coach and
you said, there, let's go through the chain of events
and how that played out last night and talk to
me about what you have seen. I think Mattieberflus makes
(34:42):
it through this weekend. I know he's very confident that
he'll make it through the weekend. I just don't know
if it's really because the Bears have been playing a
little better, and certainly the second half was shocking for
them to make it come back. This game should have been,
you know, out the door in the first half. Obviously
by the way the Lions just kind of blendered in
the red zone. But I think you hold on to
Matt Eberflus for at least the other week or two
(35:03):
and you are going through the process. You know, if
Ryan Pulls may not know what's going on, he might
be part of those you know, the sweeping, So you know,
to ask your jim and manager what's going on may
not be the best question, But I think you hold
onto everything for a week or two more. But behind
the scenes, as Kevin.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Warren, yeah, Mark, Mark, how do you not fire somebody again?
And if it was just this game, okay, But they're
lining up to beat the Green Bay Packers who have
owned them for the better part of a decade, and
the guy sits on a forty six yard field goal
that gets blocked. Again, not his fault that the trajectory
(35:39):
was so low or that the blocking was bad. That's like,
not technically his fault. But this is not the first,
and then you go to the commander's game. Again, not
necessarily his fault that he's got a cornerback who's who's
dancing and celebrating while the ball is already snapped, but
it is that that's his football.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Team, Like how do you can see you?
Speaker 1 (36:01):
And again, Mark, you know I'm a coach, I'm actually
sensitive to this thing. But how do you not fire
somebody today?
Speaker 9 (36:08):
I just think where you at in the season a
change to take a change of where you sit as
an organization, is it really going to change the outcome?
I mean you got to look at your own staff
and say who would I want to be the head coach?
And why? And what?
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Maybe maybe not?
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Maybe not the head coaches, Like somebody's literally got to
get like somebody has to get There has to be
some level of accountability, doesn't there or just like, hey,
he's gonna get fired anyway, let's just like let him
play out the string.
Speaker 9 (36:36):
I don't know, Well, it's like this, you know, and
as you said, and you know, in the end, I
don't think that he won't get fired. I just don't
think they'll do it right now that they might. But
you talked about the three situations, and one was on offense,
one was on defense, one was on special chief Now
that also points back to it's the team not coming together,
but they're also in a position to beat the camp commanders,
(36:56):
in position to possibly beat the lines, in position to
possibly beat the you know, the packers. So you got
to look at from like we're right on the cusp
of maybe things are starting to turn. Even though we're
screwing up and lose these games. It's not like we're
getting thraddled or be bad like we've seen some other teams.
And so I think that's the only reason they're holding on.
But I think change those things it's going to happen.
(37:17):
I don't think that's I think that's inevitable. I just
don't know if you just have to do it just
to make a point to whom I am, they're going
to stay.
Speaker 14 (37:25):
Can I get one more on this Bears thing, because
and I said this to Doug earlier, Mark and I
said it yesterday when it happened. I don't understand how
in this day, in the age of the NFL, you
have a kicker that can't kick one fifty eight yards indoors.
Is that maybe we see guys now trying sixty four
yard field goals. The longest field goal in NFL history
(37:47):
happened in that stadium yesterday, And to me, that's a
that's that's the Bears telling on themselves that they don't
even have a good enough kicker that they, by the way,
wanted to settle for a forty six yard or two
weeks go. Like, it doesn't make a lot of sense
to me.
Speaker 9 (38:03):
No, and I don't disagree. I think we've seen certainly
a change in the evolution of tickers. I mean, it's
easy to make fifty orders, and it does say something
that you have no confidence that you can make the
big kick in the big moment, especially when time running
out and the odds of you you know, they're not
going to convert a first down. I hated the end
of the game, like I was nauseous. I was like,
there's no way they're going to lose this game, at
(38:23):
least to go into overtime and see if they somehow
can pull off this miracle upset. But the Bears did
a Bears thing, and I know that goes back to
Doug what you're saying, it's some of these got heads
got a roll. I just you know, no one, not
knowing the McCaskey family, but just knowing the overall run
with Kevin Warren. I just think that they're probably like,
we fire him, Maybe we don't want to win more games.
(38:45):
Maybe were't a position where we're comfortable or our draft
pick is right now, even though it's not ideal that
we're not in a bad spot based off of meeting
that first runt pick going forward.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
No, that's that's the only I told Jason to sue
at our producer, like that's the only liable explanation that
I would actually go like, okay, that makes it make
it look so such like such a mess, like oh
my god, I can't believe we lost this game. And
then you go in the locker iom like, dude, we
lost that game. We keep our draft pick. That's the
only thing that could that could get you out of
jail free. It was was I'm with you, I'm watching
(39:17):
with my coaches, and we're we just finished Thanksgiving dinner,
and we were all like, oh, okay, what do we
have to prepare for that we have not because this
looks terrible. It just looked I cannot believe how that
game ended. Mark Dominic joining us here on the Dan
Patrick Show, uh with with Dan Byram. I'm Doug gottliebe
(39:37):
in for Dan and the dan Nets. Do the Dolphins
have a cold weather problem or a TUA problem?
Speaker 9 (39:47):
I want to lean towards more of a cold weather
you know, obviously it's a very tough game for them
as well, where you know, they had a chance to
kind of close the game out and Lambeau, but they couldn't.
I got to give credit to Jeck Halfley, the defensive coordinator.
They did a good job of making it difficult onto
it and you know, being able to stuff them in
the red zone and then turn around and gets pressures
(40:08):
and sacks. I think that Jeff Hackley has done a
really good job with that defense for the most part.
And you know, I think it's more again it's it's
not I think two is in a good spot. I
think he's going to be okay as long as he
stays healthy. I don't think some dolphinsteresting to go. We
got to get a different quarterback. I think it was
more just I think you got to give credits to
the defensive side of Jeff Hays, the coordinator.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Well, it was it was a It was a dominating performance,
no interceptions from from Jordan Love, which is a first
this year, and the Packers look like they're playing their
best best football. I hope you had a great Thanksgiving, Mark.
We love talking football with you. Enjoy your Black Friday sports,
and we'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 9 (40:46):
Yeah, I'm very curious to see what Aidan O'Connell does
today for the Raiders. Then the whole season will be
waiting to see if he's any good. It doesn't really
matter so much, but it does to the Raiders brass
to see if you can do anything against his Chiefs today.
So it'll be fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
It will be fun to watch. He's Mark Dominique. She
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