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October 9, 2024 50 mins

Welcome to Unbreakable! A mental wealth podcast hosted by Fox NFL Insider Jay Glazer. On today’s episode, Jay goes one on one with one of the funniest people on the planet. The great Michael Rapaport shares his strong, funny & offensive points of view on life, sports, film & everything in between!

 

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is Unbreakable with Jay Glacier, a mental wealth podcast
Build you from the inside out. Now here's Jay Glacier.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome into Unbreakable, a mental Wealth podcast.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
With Jay Glazer.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
I'm Jay Glazer and joining me today is somebody I've
known for a long time.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
I's seen at Madison Square Garden back in the day,
back when I was a young pupp I was hosting
the show with.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Kurt Menafie called Unnecessary Roughness, and I used to see
this cat and then he made.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Me laugh my ass off back then, and he still
is now.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
And I actually now he's the political commentator. He's talking about,
you know, issues that people don't want to hit, but
he's talking about him in terms we could all understand.
My dude, Michael Rappaport, one of the funniest, Hey, I'm
gonna say it right here, one of.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
The funniest motherfuckers on the planet.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
I want to set the stage for you so you'll
understand what kind of podcast this is.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
You have free reign to be you.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
I appreciate it, Jay, Thanks for having them. My man,
So I know you got a.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Million things going on.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
You just started well, I don't know if you just
started new podcast, going your touring all over the place. Yeah,
but I kind of want to talk to you about
where your career started, but now kind of where it
is now you are just like it's almost like, hey,
I'm going to be the unfiltered voice for the world,
whether you like.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
It or not.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:17):
Well, I you know, I started as an actor. Well,
I actually started as a stand up comedian. That's my
first sort of goal. Dream was to be the next
Eddie Murphy or the white Eddie Murphy, and you know,
and I wanted to be a stand up comic the
way you know in the eighties and nineties stand up comics,
you know, would do their stand up and then sort

(01:38):
of you know, segue into you know, acting sort of
based on their stand up comedy.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
I was nineteen. I didn't know what I wanted to
do with my life.

Speaker 5 (01:45):
I'd spent my entire youth since I was about ten
years old, hoping and dreaming that I'd be in the NBA.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
That's what I really wanted to be, was a basketball player.

Speaker 5 (01:55):
And then when I realized that wasn't going anywhere, you know,
I said, let me I stand up comedy. And I
tried that and I you know, I wasn't that good
of a stand up comedy. But as soon as I
went on stage in LA, I had moved from New
York to LA to pursue this dream. I would get
called in for acting auditions, and you know, honestly, the

(02:17):
first time I read side the scenes to audition, it
was like it made perfect sense to me. It was
easier than stand up comedy. It was certainly easier than basketball.
Was it just made sense to me, like, you know,
acting and expressing emotions and the beats and the sort
of fundamentals of acting was like a fish in water.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
And I was like, this is what I'm going to do.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
And I started doing that had you know, a lot
of success quickly, and you know, I haven't looked back.
And I shortly after that I stopped doing stand up comedy,
which I'm back doing and now again, as you mentioned,
I'm going on tour in the fall.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
I'll be all over the.

Speaker 5 (02:59):
Country, touring all over you know, all all the cities
where where the big games will be playing. And you know,
I'm actually doing a show in Israel, which I'm excited
about that that's awesome.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
I love it, which I could definitely use some definitely
use here that around how perfect.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
I love it absolutely, and uh, you know, and I
fell in love with acting and I'm always gonna love
my acting. And as far as like, you know, the
social media of it all. You know, in the last
ten eleven years, when social media has emerged, I at
first I would talk about the mundane. I talk about sports,
I talk about popular culture, talk about music, you know,
silly things, you know, walking my dog and walcome doing this.

(03:35):
And then you know, one day I said something that
was a social you know, had some social substance, and
people just.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
Responded to that.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
And you know, I didn't pay attention to politics at all.
I didn't pay attention to I mean literally at all
eight years ago. But I do now and I talk
about that. And you know, as you get older, I think,
you know, certain things you know, mean take on more
meaning and you know, and I try.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
To balance it all. You know, I'm always gonna love acting.

Speaker 5 (04:05):
I feel like, you know, now, every single day is changing,
you know, in the sports world, you know, the news
cycle is quick, and it's like you know, in the
you know, political social world, you know, and it's especially
this past week it's been one of the craziest weeks
we've ever had, and you know, I try to talk
about it all, you know, I it's been a little
bit hard with everything that's going on.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
To focus on the mundane.

Speaker 5 (04:27):
You know, I was talking to my friend about last
season's fantasy football uh uh season, and I have not
only did my team suck, but I wasn't even able
to focus on my team sucking. But just because of
everything that that's been going on for the last nine
months in Israel. So I want to try to balance
it more because you know, I'm getting pumped up for
my fantasy football season, which is up the utmost important,

(04:50):
Like whatever you're doing in your life, whatever, the most
important thing is how is my team rap reports the
light aka history of violence aka make get stopped?

Speaker 4 (05:00):
But how how am I going to be doing that?

Speaker 5 (05:02):
That's the utmost important and rightfully so, but that's what
sports is great.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Like.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Look, I'm like, you are trying not to watch politics,
try not to watch the news, try not to watch social.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Media, and sport.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
I think like this year, especially because when you have
you know, the way the political landscape is right now,
it's people are war in our country, and sports kind
of brings everybody together, and that's fine.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
You have to.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Remember to go to those welcome distractions.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
That's why I think sports and movies and stuff are
so important because it gives us our welcome distraction.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
But what the real world is if you will.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
One hundred percent.

Speaker 5 (05:36):
And I you know, like I said last season, I
wasn't able to do it. You know, it is the
first time in a long time, like I wasn't able
to appreciate. By the time the playoffs went around, like
I was just like, I have to do it.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
But you know, during the.

Speaker 5 (05:48):
Regular season, you know, football Sundays, Monday nights, you know,
sometimes Thursday nights, but Sunday is It's Americana.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
And I wasn't able to do it.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
But I have them why, like, as a Jewish man
in this country stand for me, and you know, I don't.
I never talk politics or anything like that. I just
think the way we are on our show, we keep
away from from things. But yeah, there was a lot
to be worried about it just the climate of this country.
So it's almost like you're like, and I even't talked
about a guys on our show, like guys, I know,
I need to talk sports but this happened when we
came back from COVID. I'm like, I know I'm supposed

(06:20):
to talk about the NFL inside or stuff, but I
feel guilty when people are dying out there, you know,
feel guilty when there's hostages still out there. And but Jay,
this is your job. You've got to do this. So
I understand what you're saying. And we, I think, do
have to do a better job of making sure we find.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
A balance that we keep.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
You look, if we have to fight one fight on
one side, we have to make sure we balance it
on the other.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
We almost have to force.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
Ourselves to one hundred percent, you know, one hundred percent.

Speaker 5 (06:49):
You know, And and it is tough and the balance
and you know, what you should say, what you shouldn't say,
what you can say, what's acceptable to say, what's the
time of it all?

Speaker 4 (07:01):
You know? For me, I just jump in.

Speaker 5 (07:02):
I say what I want when I want to say it.
And you know, I don't think of ramifications. I don't
think of feelings like I just articulate myself for better
and for worse.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
And you know, especially regarding social.

Speaker 5 (07:16):
Media, when I do that, that's why it comes off
the way it comes off. Because it is not premeditated,
like if something's going on. Like the good thing about
social media for me is that it is an outlet,
uh for for for for those those thoughts and those
feelings and those frustrations.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
But it's it's it's a crazy time.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
It's it's a crazy time, and you know time, it's
crazy time, it's scary time, and and you know it's
be you know, you think like the the like I
said the sports news, you know, you know when you
do your updates game right before is this person playing?
Is this person not playing? You know, and you're giving
us this information. I mean, you know it's like you
know so and that's fun. For the most part, it's fun.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
You know if somebody's not injured, you know, like this
person starting or you justin Jefferson, is hip this filly?
You know all that.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
Stuff which which we wait for your your updates every morning.
How do you get those those updates? Is it coming
in via text? Are you getting phone calls? I know
sometimes you're at the stadium, you're.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
In this No I'm out stadium and was it well
only only a postseason but no, it's constant text and
phone call and it doesn't stop and it doesn't stop,
and dun stop.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
I'll tell you.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
It was like there was a quarterback who was uh
who everybody was saying was out. And I don't want
to try not to keep my source up, so trying
to do this.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
And my producer's like, hey, so we got to come
and say he's out. I'm like, he's not out. He's like,
what do you mean?

Speaker 2 (08:37):
I said, my guy is making the decision and he's
ten feet fromhim right now, texting me in real time
what's going on. And here's the truth. They just gave
him a turtle injection. And my guy's like, what's out.
I'm like, well, that's the other thing you guys don't understand.
Turtle takes a half out to really kick in. They
gave him a turtle. Then they're shooting them over here
with Lighty Kane and so we're gonna know him about
half hour. But I'm not willing to go with it.
And my producer was like, you're fucking crazy, but we're

(08:59):
going you're crazy. And I'm literally getting it in real time,
real time, real time, and I'm like and I'm sending
texts that I know the other insiders don't send like, hey,
is the so we're all work?

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yet has it kicked in as it shot kicked in? Yet?
These motherfuckers have no idea what that is and or
how it works.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Unfortunately, I've got to take too many towdolls because my
dumb ass still fights with people and trains these guys.
But it's literally that I have from day one. And
it goes back to my first day in the Giant
locker room in ninety three. I had no experience and
you know, no education compared to these cats.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Nothing. But I was like, man, how could I be different?

Speaker 2 (09:37):
And I was like, these guys all use their pen
as a weapon. I'm going to start relationships. And for
the first ten years I got destroyed for starting relationships
fifteen years. But over time, like those relationships, man, thirty
five of those guys become head coaches, thirty of them
become general managers.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
And I've been with guys forever. Never burn anybody.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
It's like you you collect these relationships over over the years,
and I kind of look at like, we're not doing
You're not doing We're not covering the Middle East, we're
not We're not that important.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
We're talking about sports.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
It's it but the art of the relationship and the
art of loyalty is a dying art and it was
back then, and I kind of looked like, I'm going
to try and perfect that as much as I can.
And that's how I get those and my guys, thank God,
have been there for me forever with stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
But it's pretty wild, man, it's pretty wild. Do you do?
You do? You do? You like?

Speaker 5 (10:30):
The landscape in sports media, social media, but specifically sports
media has changed so freaking much just since and since
you being.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
Involved, you know, with now every pot.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Everybody does relationships.

Speaker 5 (10:44):
Yeah, everybody, everybody got a podcast, everybody got a d M,
everybody got this, everybody you.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
Know, it's an expert AI.

Speaker 5 (10:51):
You know, everybody knows numbers and all this I mean,
is it Is it frustrating to you, Like how do
you sort of continue to keep you know, your information
and your sort of brand and you know, like everybody
you know, because because like everybody, everybody thinks they're a
nod ale and I've heard this and I've heard that,
and you just say shit all the time, like to.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
Keep your shit the most fresh, not.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Just say shit, but they steal shit in two seconds
and I've talked to gods. Right, let's not do this.
You know, I talk to the other inside about it. Hey,
don't do it. You know, when there's enough scoop for
all of us to go around. But when guys start,
I tell them two things, Hey, don't ever get anything wrong. Ever,
most guys, they get so much pressure from their bosses,
they don't give a shit.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
They just want to placate their bosses.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
I'm like, look, you're gonna have a pressure to not
get beaten by me and Adam Schefter, but just make
sure you hold just don't get anything wrong. And that's huge.
And you know, I can count on less than one
hand things I've gotten wrong over the past thirty years.
My thirty second team and the same right, it's the
same time two years, and.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
I look fantastic. I look, you look good. You look good, Jake.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
But at the same time, I tell these guys also,
don't get anything wrong, but also don't steal people shit
like you'll never see me confirm something that ESPN, NFL
netward cats.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
I'm like, if they got it, they must have confirmed it.
I don't do this shit.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
You guys got it.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
You guys got it.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
But I would say, there's enough for us all to
go around just letting somebody else have it. But they've
kind of all got it down with science now where
they'll like credit you with the first tweet and then
put their own tweet out two seconds later that doesn't
have an name, so they could say we credit you,
and then that's the second tweet is the one that
gets They constantly retweet, retreat, so it gets forgotten about.

(12:37):
And I tell you a funny one. When I broke
this offseason that was pretty much at it came out
of nowhere that the Chargers were trading Keenan Allen to
the Bears.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Came out of nowhere. The person who told me.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
I said, hey, I want you to and he's like, hey,
when you basically, when do you want to break it? Uh,
we got this done. It's up to you and it's yours.
I said, man, I'm gonna middle do it something. I
want to get it now. But I couldn't. And I said, hey,
probably about ten to fifteen minutes you think it a hold.
They're like, yeah, it's definitely hold. I said, great, no way, yeah,
I should have told you. No, I said, I want

(13:10):
you to watch what happens. I want you to bring
up every insider their Twitter, and I want you to
see what my business is like, and I want you
to see how they do it. And they called back
and they're like, your business is fucked up.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
These people just.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Man, they're shame or they'll have somebody whople say they've learned,
but clearly they didn't.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Like they clearly didn't learn it, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
I decided when it came out, so it didn't happen
a second ago, and I was but it was really
fun and they were just it was an education for them,
but it was pretty wild. But I want to go
and you just talk about social media part how things
are changing, all right. So for me, I definitely was
crazier back in the day. I think as I've got
and that was kind of like my brand. Hey, Glazer's crazy.
But now, man, I started talking more mental health instead

(13:54):
of just crazy and more to pain of it, I
can help people.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
I've become a lot more tame and almost like, all right,
now you got all this shit to lose you.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
In the past, I was crazy because I figured I'd
lose it because I didn't deserve it, so I didn't care.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
I was like, fuck, I'm gonna lose it anyway, I
might as well go. And that's kind of more where
I want to be.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
And now I'm like, all right, I don't want to
lose what I have, So I become more tame, but
also as crazy as I am.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
Right, I functioning, trained.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Thousand football players and fired as mixed martial arts. I
tangle with the best room. But my feelings get hurt easy.
So on social media when people say shit, shit, fucking
burd it gets me. So I tried not to look anymore.
You are attacking social media in a way where you
get fucking all this, where you get the worst, most hateful,

(14:42):
pain ash shit I've ever seen. How do you, Hey,
do you block it out? And how are you able
to compartmentalize it?

Speaker 5 (14:50):
You know the way I compartmentalize it and the way
I block it out and the way I deal with it.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
Uh, don't try.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
I say it doesn't hurt the feelings.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
It doesn't really hurt my feelings.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
To be totally honest with you, you know, I got
a lot to learn from you here. You know the
people on social media. God blessed the ones who I know.
God blessed the ones who I don't know. First of all,
the majority of social media, particularly with the hate and
the political and the social and the anti anti semitism

(15:24):
and all that stuff, the majority of those people and
the majority of the tweets and the majority of the
responses are robots.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
That's a fact. That is a fact.

Speaker 5 (15:33):
Really, And fuck yeah, there's so many fake accounts, puppet
sock puppet accounts, you know, computer accounts and all that shit.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
Number one.

Speaker 5 (15:44):
Number two, if it is a real person, you know,
whether it's a compliment or negative. As far as on
social media, Like you know, if you say on the
greatest things since slice bread, I don't walk around going yo,
that person said, I'm the greatest thing since sliced bread.
So if I'm not going to take the compliment, I'm
certainly not going to take their insult.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
There are some.

Speaker 5 (16:03):
Times where you know you'll be like h. But for
the most part, I just keep keep rocking. It's just like,
you know, as far as fame and and people you
know coming up to me, you know, which I've been
fortunate enough, you know, to be an actor successful actor
for so many years, you know, and I've had so
many you know interactions with people saying, I love you

(16:25):
in this, I love you in that, this is my
favorite thing, This is my favorite and I and I
take it all in and I appreciate every single time
someone says that to me, because you know, it's being
an actor. There could be far worse things and nobody
knowing who you are. So sometimes you're like, you know,
you don't want to talk sometimes, but I I'm blessed
to be doing this so long that people, you know,

(16:46):
if I've given joy, you know, from one thing or another.
But it doesn't make me feel like I'm you know,
I'm the shit. I'm the greatest actor ever, you know.
And if someone said you sucked in this, you sucked
in that, it wouldn't matter really at the end of
the day.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
And it sounds like a cliche. It sounds like a cliche,
but it is true.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
And because when people you know, young young actors or
podcasters or even you know, people that want to get
in you know, sort of media, they ask me, you know,
what's the thing I say, the most important thing, and
I say this to myself still at fifty four years old,
is you must be your biggest fan and you must
be your harshest critic, and that's what sort of keeps

(17:26):
me in, you know, in line, you know that, and
my wife.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
Keep me bounced.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
You know.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
So as far as the social media shit, I don't
take the compliments, you know, to heart.

Speaker 5 (17:36):
I appreciate every single one of them, and I certainly
am not going to take, you know, the insults to heart.
And it's part of the game, you know. I'm used
to it, you know, and I do. I do know
that a lot of it is is is faith your stuff,
because you know, especially regarding football, football fans are fucking crazy.

(17:57):
Sports fans are not. So if you just pointed with
Das and Jay, you don't know what the fuck you're
talking about or whatever shit they might say to you.
You know, you you told Michael Rapport you look fantastic,
you look like shit, blah blahah blah blah blah.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
You know all these things.

Speaker 5 (18:11):
You know, it's like, all right, cool whatever, But you know,
football and sports fans, it's it's it's a crazier thing.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
Like if you get bad information or misinformation.

Speaker 5 (18:19):
You said, you know, Aaron Rodgers is gonna play and
you know his achilles is healthy, but he didn't.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
Make it past this gi you know, all those things, you.

Speaker 5 (18:27):
Know, But at the end of the day, I'd like
to think that most of those people are are you know,
they're crazy sports fans.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
They're not just crazy people gonna do something crazy.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
It's just, yeah, why I think half of it is
hurt people.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Hurt people, and everyone's hurt nowadays, right, so they want
to I did melt down a couple of years ago.
I reported that out of nowhere that Giants we're going
to trade Odell Beckham, and you Giant fans, what fucking
ballistic on me?

Speaker 3 (18:51):
By the way, I've been covering the team since ninety three.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
So then I get mad, going, oh shit, Gladiers said
that must be true, and they did it, and I
ended up sending out a tweet, and I've got in
trouble a couple of times.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
I regret it.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
One time I got into it with some OF's wife what.
I liked the guy a lot and probably should have
I definitely shouldn't say what I said.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
I was coming back from a fighting.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
But chuck Leedell and he just lost and I was
with him and I was in a bad mood. But
a couple of times I kind of do shit and
but this one was to all those giant fans who
were killing me.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
I was like, hey, all you fuck sticks out there who.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Got mad at me and my mom and my kid's
mom and my son's like all this shit. I said,
do you get this man when your kid gets a
D on the report card? No, so shut the fuck up,
leave me the fuck alone. And it went it's about
viral thing I ever did, and really yeah, my bosters
were and then Strayhand was even like, bro, we all
wish we could do that.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
That's who you are. You're that guy now right back
that guy.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
And they called me, they go, hey, y okay, I'm like,
yem fine, They go, well, you you know, did you
really have to call people fox sticks? And said I
did because they weren't just hitting me. They're going on
my friends. And then people who I was helping with sobriety,
they're going on here Instagram saying hey, I hope you
fucking fall up because you're you're friends with this guy.
I hope you fucking you junkie this and fucking terrible.

(20:11):
Who would say that's crazy?

Speaker 5 (20:12):
That's crazy And if the if the worst thing you said,
it's fox sticks.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
I mean, it's good, that's g rating for you. It's sticks.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
I mean, that's like, that's what at least it's an
insult that makes you like a fox stick is a funny.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
So I got another question pre here, but I know,
fuck I got you know clinical ADHD.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
I know you have.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
You've talked about your A D D. Also, so you
said the sides for you when you're acting were easy. Yes,
I'm going to ask you how so what I did?
I did five years of Ballers, right, and yeah, I
got saying thing. I couldn't remember any when I do Fox,
I don't have any Telepropter. I just go and you know,
I have to names the guys I'm gonna talk about
for the ins and ounce, but none of us besides

(20:53):
Kurtent of Telepropter, we just go. But also I wasn't
really able with my add to remember ship and if
finally Dwayne, thank god, the Rockers, just like, just just
just let him be him.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Just don't feel like I'm like I said, right, just
let him do him.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
How are you able to remember pages and pages of
copy to remember of your lines and side?

Speaker 5 (21:16):
You know, you you go over it. It's it's like
a muscle it's like a memory muscle. For me, it's
like a memory muscle. It's like if you you know,
you're doing a weird exercise and you know, like a
burpie or something like that. It's like eventually you'll it'll
start to become easier and easier, and and to be honest,
if it's good writing, I have no problem with it.

(21:36):
Like the only time I've had problems with with lines
or scenes. And one thing people don't understand is when
you shoot a movie, you shoot a TV show, you
shoot that scene, whether it's a one page scene, a
five page scene, so you're not focusing on the whole
one hundred and twenty page script or sixty page script.
If you're doing TV, you show.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
It over and over and over and over.

Speaker 5 (21:57):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. But but in general, as far as
memory memorizing lines and stuff like that, it's it's not
that hard, particularly if it's if it's good writing. If
it's good writing, and this is what we do, you know,
like this is this is what I do. And it
just like I said, you know, I spent you know, hours,

(22:19):
more than ten thousand hours hoping, praying, working on my
left hand, working on my right hand, you know, crossover dribble,
step back dribble, you know, step back, jump shut.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
And it just never came as easy.

Speaker 5 (22:30):
As acting to me. And it just makes sense to me.
It just makes sense to me. And performing, you know,
it just it makes.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
Sense to me, right Like.

Speaker 5 (22:37):
It's just like it's a it's like an intrinsic thing.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
It's just like like a natural thing.

Speaker 5 (22:42):
Not to say that I don't work at it, but
it just it just comes naturally to me. And getting
the emotions and all that stuff, it all comes naturally
to me.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
You know again, you started a stand up comic. I
actually started as coming in nineteen eighty nine, what a
lot of people don't know.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
And that to me was way harder than getting kicked
in my face by Chuck Wodell in a cage.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
It's because I felt like I had no control. I
felt like I get it right, like if I had.
You got a great set.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
But like the guy before you shit the bed or
the waiter sucks, or the someone in the crow, whatever
it is. I mean, what for you is the hardest
thing about comedy and the easiest thing.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
That's a good question. The easiest thing is I never
had any fear.

Speaker 5 (23:30):
You know, you get nervous sometimes a big show, you know,
or or if you're doing new stuff, there.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
Might be a little tinge of adrenaline.

Speaker 5 (23:37):
That's the easiest part of it, you know, I would
say the hardest part of it is, you know, writing,
coming up with new stuff, coming up with stuff that's
totally genuine to me. And but you know, the silence
never never made me feel scared. You know, failing never
made me feel scared. On stage, I would be way

(23:59):
more concerned about getting kicked in the face by Chuck
Ladell or you or any any any anybody else, and
that would be way more of a concern for me.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
You know.

Speaker 5 (24:09):
The reality about stand up is, you know, for the
most part, unless you're at that level where people are
just gonna laugh, you know, Kevin Hart, the great ones,
the big ones who people come to see and they
spend their money. You know, they've built this such a
trust with the audience. Uh, and they've earned that, Jerry Seinfel,
whoever it is, they know that at a certain point

(24:31):
they're getting laughs because of who they are.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
You know, and obviously they fight through that.

Speaker 5 (24:35):
But at the end of the day, you know, if
you're doing, you know, just you know, a spot at
the improv or a spot at the laugh actor are
like a local club. You know, Uh, some nights you
got it, some nights you don't have it. You could
bring some shitty energy to a crowd and it not
worked you. The crowd just might not be driving with
you. You might not be on your game, and you know,

(24:56):
it's like it's like bad, it's like batting. It's like, yo,
all right, I struck out next night. You you keep going.
I don't take that ship personally. I think you know,
a lot of stand up comics.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
State they struggle with that, you know, specific specifically.

Speaker 5 (25:09):
Stand up comic. I think that's why they get, you know,
they're they're they're very specific breed. I consider myself.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
An actor before I am a stand up comic.

Speaker 5 (25:16):
Like stand up comedians, their personality is fucked up, like
pure stand ups.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
They're they're weird. They're weirder than actors and they're weirder
than you.

Speaker 5 (25:24):
And that's hard to be wed h J. But you know,
I just keep it in perspective, and you know, if
you kick ass, I don't think I'm you know, Eddie
Murphy in the Red suit and and if I if
I suck, I don't think that you know that there's
there's not the next show.

Speaker 4 (25:39):
You know, you just keep keep swinging. And I know
that sounds kind of basic, cause.

Speaker 5 (25:43):
If like that, but that's just how I I keep,
you know, I keep a level sort of playing field
with myself.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
I'm fair to myself.

Speaker 5 (25:50):
And like I said, I'm my biggest critic and my
biggest fan.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
I understand the biggest fan part, right, kind of love
yourself up. A lot of us don't know how to
love ourselves up. You have to write and we have
to give ourselves grace. And most people they just well,
I shouldn't say most, a lot too many, Oh know
how we have to practice that. If I get up
every morning, I'll put a song on it, I'll meditate.
And now i'll meditate, I'll think about things that I
am grateful for. For one song, it could be anything.

(26:16):
It could be fucking pair of shoes I was going by,
but it could be things I've done in the past.
It could be the same thing over and over and over.
But then also things. The next song is things I'm
proud of, and I I've got.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
To work at it. I've got to work at being
proud at these things.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
And you know, people look and they feel like, well,
I'm not being humble if I'm bragging about myself. Fuck,
yes you are. You you did it. It ain't bragging
if it's true, you can do it right. So but
my question is how what to look like to be
your biggest critic?

Speaker 3 (26:46):
What does that mean?

Speaker 4 (26:48):
That's a good question.

Speaker 5 (26:49):
What it looks like to me to be my biggest
critic is it's really in relationships. You know, all the
business shit and acting and you know this show, that
show and this takes that take, you know, this meeting
that shit is.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
It's it's really like in my personal life. You know,
it's really with my wife. It's really like how.

Speaker 5 (27:08):
I behave uh, you know, throughout the day, how I
keep you know, I'm a very emotional person, as you
can imagine. And you know, sometimes with my emotions, you know,
get the better of me.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
They've gotten I've gotten way better as.

Speaker 5 (27:23):
As I've getting gotten older, and and it could just
be you know, even in the car seeing you motherfucker
get the fuck out of my way. You know, like
I used to not even pay attention to that kind
of thing. Just simple as that. I'm not telling them
like I'm never like crazy road rage person, but even
simple as that or you know, stupid shit like traffic.
But you know, just being the best person I can't

(27:45):
be in the best listener I can, and being in
control of my emotions, and and being you know, the
best husband, the best father, the best friend, and and
you know, and and the list goes down. But it really,
you know, has to do with you know, the personal
ship is the most important, and you know the other things.
You know, I feel like I have a good traction

(28:06):
on professional life, you know.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
But but I'm you know, sorry as being grateful.

Speaker 5 (28:11):
I mean, I'm certainly you know, during this hostage crisis,
you know, Jay.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
You know, like really, you know, being grateful.

Speaker 5 (28:18):
It sounds stupid, you know, or it sounds sort of cliche,
but like being grateful to be able to wake up
in my own bed, being grateful to be able to,
you know, go piss when I want to piss to
being grateful to be able to you know, get a
kiss and a hug like these these things have gotten
so much more important to me, and I've become a

(28:39):
lot more aware of them. To be totally honest with you,
you know, through throughout this because I know that so
many other people you know, can't. And and and I'm
conscious of that, you know, throughout the day.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
I really am.

Speaker 5 (28:50):
And and you know, and I and I and I am.
I'm aware of that every single day. And and you know,
the more and more I think I'm aware of those things.
You know, there's a you know, it gets bigger and
bigger of what you can do, what you can't do,
what you you know, the blessing to be even have internet,
to be able to talk to you on this, you know.
I mean there's so many different things that I can't
complain about, you know, if fucking traffic or you know,

(29:13):
my my coffee getting fucked up. It's like, you know,
I live a super duper blessed life, you know, and
my health fortunately is in good, you know condition.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
So it's hard to you know, really really complain about
a lot. That's the truth.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Look, I love the fact that you're constantly out there also,
you know, make sure everybody knows that there's still houses
just God, and I love that.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
And I think the whole thing has kind of got
convoluted of you know, between war of Israel and God's
and what's going on. But it really is about those
people that we're living everyday lives and all of a
sudden their lives were taken from them, and we people
have kind of lost their eye on the ball, in
my opinion.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
So I do appreciate that you've constantly done that.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
You just and again, I had a guest on here
and I'm Shawshanna Johnson, the first ever black female American
pow and her description and she was caught. She was
in captive for keptating for twenty two days, and she
told she was a day away from losing her life.
She thought she got her last meal the night before
next to Saddam's hometown to greet.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
They kept moving her.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
But she said, right when it happened, she said, and
this is on the podcast, she said, I they did
mean the same thing that Amasa has done to the
Israelis that they've taken from the music.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
Festival and the kibbutz. She said, they put me in
the back.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Of a truck and they spit at me, and they
beat me, and they paraded me from town to town
and she got put I think at seven different places.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
And it's just man's it's not the way God wanted
a stack. Let's say that. Okay, not at all.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
And you know, again, I think we've lost track of
those innocent.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
People you were just there.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
How was the experience for you in Israel when you
were there? And also like, how are I know what's
going on? How is the relationship and I don't want
to diving a whole political thing or the relationship inside
Israel between the Israelis and the the Iarbs who lived
there together.

Speaker 5 (31:13):
From what you saw, yeah, well, you know, obviously Israel
there's a lot of sadness, there's a lot of heartbreak,
There's a tremendous amount of of PTSD.

Speaker 4 (31:24):
It's a small place, you know, Israel is the size
of New Jersey.

Speaker 5 (31:28):
You know, the populated areas are are even you know closer.
You know, everybody knows somebody who was unfortunately either killed
or kidnapped or kidnapped and released or injured on October seventh.
And when I say everybody, I mean everybody from here. Yeah,

(31:49):
I mean everybody, every single person. So you know the
fact that it's ongoing, you know, people haven't been able
to mourn correctly, you know, because you know, how can
you mourn when this is still happening.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
You know, there is something, you know, we talk about.

Speaker 5 (32:06):
Like New Yorkers, there's a thing about us, you know,
you talk about you know, like there's a certain thing
about and and and there is a there is a
thing about the people of Israel.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
And there's a thing about the Jewish people. And it
is true.

Speaker 5 (32:22):
They have a light and a resilience and a lust
for life, a true lust for life. And you talk
about being appreciating the little things and appreciating light. That
is as a it's a characteristic that you'll find in
israelis as soon as you get there, through through crisis.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
And and and not through crisis.

Speaker 5 (32:42):
They have a lust and appreciation for life, and there's
a light within them.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
You know.

Speaker 5 (32:48):
As far as the way you know, people are getting along,
it's hard for me to answer that. You know, I
think it's in general, you know, at the end of
the day, I think that people just want to live
their lives. And people want to, you know, want everything
around the world. You know, people want to wake up,
they want to you know, be able to take care
of themselves. They want safety, they want you know, their
family to be able to eat.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
You know, two three meals a day, you know, you
want a couple of weeks of vacation, you know.

Speaker 5 (33:14):
And I think that the one thing that you know
is a parent, you know, without going too far in
the politics of it all.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
Jays is that the reality is that Israel.

Speaker 5 (33:24):
Whether you think they have a right to exist or not,
they have been you know, Israel has been attacked ten
hours after it was announced as a state, literally ten
hours afterward was announced as a state forty eight years ago,
and it's been under attack ever since then.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
And that there are some people that that never wanted.

Speaker 5 (33:45):
It to exist and do not want it to exist
seventy five years later.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
You know.

Speaker 5 (33:50):
I think that's why you have the lust and the
appreciation for life within Israel, and also the the resilience
to continue to be tough and not take any shit.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
Well, you know, it's try because you're talking about, you know,
the right to exist. Everybody's had the right to exist.
It's ridiculous that we don't.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
And it's not just Israel and God's and parasites, places
in Africa, places, I mean, there's been it's constant, you know,
through our history.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
But it's funny. I get the questions, and kids asked
me so often that I was like, how come we
already has you?

Speaker 4 (34:23):
Why?

Speaker 3 (34:23):
Everybody? You know? It's like, why doverybody hate you guys? Why?
And so it's like.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
It's now bringing an issue to be able to talk
to my friends. Look, I grew up in Jersey Shore
looking like I'm Italian and.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
I'm Jewish, so I heard it all.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
I heard the closet stuff coming out and saying stuff,
and I had to defend myself early on.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
But it look, it shouldn't be with any group.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
I am one of the guys who believes it should
be one united world under God, and I'll live that
for the rest of my life.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
I'm never not going to live that way. I'm gonna
believe it, and I know it's not It's kind.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Of hard when everybody has, you know, different beliefs, how
they go along. But for to hate any group, whether
it's Jews or Blacks or Mexicans, are Asian, whoever it is,
because of how they look or how they have, there's
certain how they live their culture is ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Frankly has nothing to do with you, right.

Speaker 4 (35:13):
And it's fucking ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
Yeahs ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Like, I'm never gonna shame someone because they were brought
up differently in a different set of cultures that they
were born into. It's nothing to do with them. So
I just think it's look, I think I wish the
rest of the world would look at it like, hey,
it is one united of world under God.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
But I know that's just that's a far cry. But
I just want to say, man, I.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Appreciate you bringing the attention for those hostages and also
for their you know, differences and how kind of people
go about this oh right to exist thing. So it's
just I know it's not We're certainly not a political podcast,
but I do think voices like yours.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
Are important that caunteract, the ones that make no sense,
they're born out of ignorance. I really appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
Man, I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Quick here talk about your podcast.

Speaker 4 (36:02):
Uh, the im Rapp Reports Stereo podcast, which is, uh,
you know, we've been going.

Speaker 5 (36:07):
You know, we started before everybody and their cousin and
their mother and their sister has had a podcast. I
would love for you to be a guest because I
have so many kids. I could ask.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
You because.

Speaker 5 (36:18):
Yeah, being Pittsburgh, San Francisco all over the country and
all tickets information is available Michael Rapportcomedy dot com.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
And you know, and I'm just you know, doing my thing.

Speaker 5 (36:27):
And then, uh, you know, like I said, I'm pumped
up for fantasy football.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
I'm psyched up for fantasy football.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
Uh you got one team? How many teams in leads?

Speaker 4 (36:36):
You got two teams? Two teams?

Speaker 5 (36:39):
And like I said, last year, in one of my leagues,
in the Stern Show, the Howard Stern Show League, I
went to the finals that law and lost, which means
I lost. I don't know why I came in second place.
No one gives a shit that you can't listen. No
one gives a shit that you came in second place
in the NFL. Certainly no one gives a ship that
you came in second place in your fantasy football league.

Speaker 4 (36:59):
So I love that. And then in my money league,
I took a fucking bath.

Speaker 5 (37:03):
And I'm talking about a big bubble bath with a
rubber ducky that's always And I am not used to
losing my fantasy football So you know, revenge is going
to be served out all over the place, and I'm
gonna be I just I'm so excited for this season.
There's so many questions, so many new faces, new places.

Speaker 4 (37:23):
You know, it's a.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Fast reality show on the planet. Right is the greatest
reality show.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
On the planet.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
And half the time listen, I put out about one percent.
I want to know, have you gared the other shit?

Speaker 3 (37:34):
You'd be like you bowlers was tame?

Speaker 2 (37:37):
It's not the shit we really know is it's funny
and the world doesn't know this the other reports kind
of do. Every NFL Owners meeting, I go and I
have a thing just with me and all the coaches.
This year we had twenty five of us, just me
and the coaches, no one else. You and the head coaches,
twenty five us and a couple gms. Right, And I've
been doing this Mike Tomlin.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
And I started. It's like seventeen years ago.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
But we start telling the new head coaches, hey man,
this is what's about to come across your desk, and
I make the old coaches tell them the crazy shit
that's happened to them, which is which I can't say here.

Speaker 5 (38:10):
But it's so it's just like private stuff.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Yes, but that's really happened.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
So if you if I if you went in right
now and try to sell a Hollywood script and I
gave you these stories that actually happened. They would laugh
you out of the room and saying there's no way
these things happened. They're so outlandish, there's no way they happened.
And it's just it's fucking unbelievable. It is the greatest
reality show the world.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
But I mean, there are ships, there's shit that goes on.
That's just. And the crazy thing is these are coaches.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
They're not.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
They didn't get most of them. They didn't get mastered
in psychology. They didn't you know, they weren't schooled in
how to be therapists. And all of a sudden they
go from you know, calling x's and o's to being
a head coach is more about all the ship that
comes across your desk than it is about the xident os.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Really, same with the g.

Speaker 4 (38:57):
Sure, and let me ask you a question.

Speaker 5 (39:00):
Let me ask you a question because I know we
don't have a lot of time, and I have.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
All these questions for you.

Speaker 5 (39:04):
And I was in your gym one time and Jadavian Clowney,
Jadavian Clowney was in.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
There and and I just was like, I like, you was.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
On there with with fifteen other players.

Speaker 5 (39:17):
But I just remember because I was like, you know,
like I saw him in like I've been around NBA players,
but I was like, he looks like an NBA player. Yeah,
like you know, I don't want to say on steroids
because I know he's not on serious, but like he's
built like an NBA player, but like sixty pounds heavier,
and and I was just like holy shit, and wrestled
as yeah, that's what.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
Who are the.

Speaker 5 (39:43):
Three most spectacular athletes that you've like wrestled with, Like, like,
I know there's probably ten of them, twenty of them,
and I know you can go on and on, but
if you said, like off the top of your head
with you know, without and I know you're gonna run
people out, but if I said, who are the three
most impressive app I think that you've had in the gym.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
Not on a field, but you've had firstly in the gym.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
So all right, yeah, I've trained, Like I said myself,
I started this program in two thousand and seven with
Jared Allen, who was like a part time d end
and a full time long snapper. People don't remember that
they trained with us. He went out and got fifteen sacks,
highest contract.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
Ever and that everybody called said whatever you did for him,
do it for us.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
And the next guy was Patrick Willison and Brian Cushing
and then Clay Matthews. He went from ten sacks to
seventeen and then the flugates open.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Everyone called. So I teamed up with Randy Gatour and
we brought in like Chuck Ladell and Jay Iron and
Tyron Woodley and all.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
These people over the years to come up with this,
m am a training program for guys where it was
also like, we're gonna teach football players to turn it
into a fight, and we're gonna give him this fight
the fighter mentality. At the same time, these football players
are going to teach all my fighters the sport.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
IQ.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
You've got to be brilliant to play football, dude, brilliant
like you talked about add I can't remember like you
know lines.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
These cats have a book of shit that they have
to remember. And the plays.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
It's not in English, you know, it's thirty two double trip,
call my Eggy, Papa Smurf albut Querque.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
You know, slam damn thank you, ma'am. Fourteen double rod salad.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
It's fucking crazy and then all cha pages and pages,
so you got to be brilliant, but also like teaching.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
Like these guys would watch film over and over and
over and over and over to look for the littlest nuance.
And I would sit there. Look, I'm blessed.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
My best friend was Strayant, and he I didn't have
enough money when I started to go from New York
City to take a subway to a bus to Giants Stadium,
back and forth every day. So Michael drive me back
home every single day from ninety three to ninety nine,
twenty eight Grand and Lincoln Tunnel fair.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
But I'd sit there with them. He watched film and
watch film and watch film. He'd be like, dud, dude,
look at this. Look at this. I'm like, what are
you look at it?

Speaker 2 (41:49):
It's like, look notice this on third downs when they're
gonna run a certain play, watch the right guard's elbow.
I'm like, what are we looking at He's like, look
at twitches. I'm like, the fuck are you looking at it?
He's like, look at twitches on run blades, watch this,
watch the difference. I'm like, bro, I can't see what
you're fucking talking about. Eventually, over after years of it.

(42:10):
I started seeing it for it's glaring. But then I
started having like having these guys teach the fighters the
same thing, these nuance, these little things because they just
went out fought right. So and Randy Gatour is really
the first to start watching film and they can do that.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
But back to your things.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
So we've done so many of these guys, and I'm
going to talk about like the most impressive listened out
in Cleveland. We tr train Miles Garrett and the first
time we teach him a lot of an fighting.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
The first time he did everything anything to me.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
And now this huge pan of my forum and I've
been get hundreds and hundreds of dns do shit and
strike my forms. I'm like, that shit fucking hurt. Damn
his sockside. So Miles was like really high up there,
he went, how.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
Big is he? How tall is he?

Speaker 3 (42:53):
Well, I think he's like six ' five to eighty whatever,
but he is so solid and so he cracked through
the strongest is Kyle Long. Holy shit, he is fucking ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
And Kyle, I've known him since he was like seven
or nine, so he looks still like to me his
uncle Glaze, you know. And big breather, so he still
like will jump on my back when I'm out, looking
like he's still seven years old. He's fucking three forty.
This year I was able to work a little with
Max Crosby. He's different, he's gumbay, he gets you know again,
I'm five seven and I'm wrestling with these guys. My

(43:28):
whole thing is keep your base, but get under me.
We teach him kind of greg Our Roman wrestling, because
you can't touch below the waist to really helps lineman.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
He was able to bend.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
All the way under me and still have strength and leverage,
and that was pretty fucking sick. Man the words and
I'm trying to think, oh, but athletic wise, Odell Beckham
like he would do it wasn't even he just picks
shit up so fast. But then he would do other
stuff in the gym, like like agility work, where the
whole gym would just stop.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
And be like, what the fuck was that? Like I
ain't never seen anything like that before, And yeah, it's
it's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
By the way, real quick, the way Jadavian Clowney came
to us, I meant the orders meet and his head
coach Bill O'Brien.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
I't really met him yet. I was with a bunch
of guys.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
I was friends with my John Fox and Bruce Arians
and Seam Payton, all these guys and Tomlin and I
have this, like you said, that New York attitude, right,
I have it. And Bill O'Brien said something to me,
like they asked him something.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
He goes, hey, I better not see this on Fox
sports dot com.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
And I said, motherfucker, who the fuck you think you're
talking to. Don't ever fucking embarrass me in front of.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
My guys and my too. I will beat the fuck
out of you. I said that. And he looked to
me and I said, just.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Because you coach football and I don't, does not mean
you can whip my ass.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
And you can't because I'll beat the dog fuck out you.
Don't you ever? And all the other coach said well,
well well, and Bill goes, is he really liked this
all the time?

Speaker 2 (44:50):
And Tomlin's like, absolutely absolutely, Bill, don't go And he's like,
holy shit, I.

Speaker 3 (44:56):
Got to start sending some players to you about it.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
And I clowny. He goes, if you could get over that,
clowny were set. He had him on a plane to
me the next week that's just funny. Yeah, not taking ship.
But it's also like again, you it's it's it isn't
authenticity we have. And that's why I said, I feel
like I'm losing mine as I've gotten I guess more refined,
if you will. But I like that version of me better.
But I also know that version of me gets on hints.

(45:21):
So I'm trying to get my mental health in a
better place and not always unhinge. I call it the beast.
I love that beast. But I saw Mike Tyson talking
about I'm working on the art of humility now, and
it's it's hard. It's hard to balance him.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
I totally understand. I totally understand, and I think you know,
I think you know.

Speaker 5 (45:41):
It's it's age, it's mistakes, it's you know, wanting to
learn from the mistakes.

Speaker 4 (45:47):
And I think it's I think you're in a good place.
And I think that you know you.

Speaker 5 (45:51):
You you hit the gym enough to be able to
get all.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
The you know, the dogs to count down. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 (45:58):
Listen, you gotta be able to have to man, you
can't keep up especial if we get older.

Speaker 4 (46:02):
Man, you know you gotta be able to. You got
to be able to at least learn from your mistakes.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
You can't lay that shield down somehow.

Speaker 5 (46:08):
Yeah, ship man, If you can't learn from your own mistakes,
then you.

Speaker 4 (46:13):
Know, fuck you gotta you gotta it.

Speaker 5 (46:16):
You know, got to me making another mistake, but I'll
keep learning from him.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
I'm asking one last question here, brother, I asked, all
I guess this. Yeah, it's called Unbreakable, a Mental Wealth podcast.
Give me your unbreakable moment in life. Something that should
have broken, you could have but didn't, and as a result,
you came through the other side of that tunnel stronger forever,
could be in anything, could be career, life, ship it.

Speaker 4 (46:41):
It doesn't matter what I would say, you know.

Speaker 5 (46:44):
The most the most relatable, uh you know, sort of colorful.

Speaker 4 (46:48):
Story that I could give you is the first movie
that I was doing.

Speaker 5 (46:52):
This movie that Oliver Stone produced called zebra Heads, small
little independent movie won an award at Sunday. It's the
same year that Read of Our Dogs, you know, won
an award at Sundance. I know nothing about nothing about nothing.
I got cast in it, and I was the star
of this movie. I didn't know anything about being on
a set, you talk probably like, you know, the camera

(47:13):
was over here. I'm I didn't know what the.

Speaker 4 (47:14):
Fuck was doing, but I knew I was doing good.

Speaker 5 (47:17):
And I knew between action and take I was able
to do I was doing good. And halfway through the
movie the producer tried to get me fired. No, yeah,
and and and I remember hearing it, and I remember
literally being in my hotel in Detroit, like just like,
just stay focused, don't worry about that. But I remember
literally going like this, I put like, just don't don't

(47:38):
fucking listen to it. Don't believe like I know, I'm
doing good, like and like and and and and and
I was able to, you know, to continue that movie.
And you know, like I said, you know, we won
an award at the Sundance Film Festival, and you know,
and I was able. That was the beginning of what
I was able to do. But I know that if
I had been rattled by it or freaked out by it,
or didn't have that belief in myself and didn't have

(47:59):
that trust, even though I didn't know what I was doing,
I knew what I was doing was real. Like I
knew like my, like my what I what I didn't
know was that one hundred percent of what I was
doing was authentic one hundred percent, and and that would
have really fucked me up. And then the other thing
I would say, Jay, is right now, you know, because

(48:22):
you know, as as as a Jewish Man with all
the anti Semitism and all the anti Jewishness, with all
the chaos in the world and the you know, don't
say this, don't say that, and you're gonna get canceled
and all that stuff, to be able to really intrinsically
not only just trust what I know, but also to
educate myself even more, to be able to stand on

(48:46):
what I know is right, yeah, authentic because because because
I'm I'm going through something right now, and I think
a lot a lot of people are going through something
right now, and I don't know where it's going to end.

Speaker 4 (48:56):
But you know, I talk about my wife a lot.

Speaker 5 (48:58):
You know, and you know, you're like, is it worth
it to say what you're saying?

Speaker 4 (49:02):
Is it not worth it to say what you're saying?

Speaker 5 (49:04):
I have to stand by, stand up for myself, and
stand up for my people because you know, not to
get too political, I've spoken on everybody's behalf everybody's fucking behalf.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
When there's you know this, that and the.

Speaker 5 (49:18):
Third, I've spoken up, So I'm certainly gonna speak up
the loudest, uh you know, from my people, especially when
there's been so much doubt, uh you know, put out there.

Speaker 4 (49:27):
At about uh you know, being Jewish. So those those
are the two things, brother.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
I appreciate it. I got to go on your podcast.
Let's you pep me with every then I'll open up
to you more than if people don't really talk to
me a lot anymore about how it wasn't and all
that type of things.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
So I would love to, man, I'd love to do
you on yours.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 5 (49:45):
I appreciate yet that, Jay, And I love all your shit,
and you know, I know the world loves your stuff,
but I love your evolution and.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
You shouldn't be You should continue with your revolution. It's important. Man.

Speaker 5 (49:55):
If you were the same lunatic you were twenty years ago,
how could you still be here?

Speaker 3 (49:58):
My man? Man, you dude, I appreciate it so much.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
Michael Rockin Gurt, thank you for joining us here on
the Unbreakable Mental Wealth podcast.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
Jay,
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