September 16, 2020 • 37 mins
Doug tells you why the Clippers’ lack of chemistry is why they ultimately collapsed against the Nuggets in game 7 after leading the series 3-1. He also talks to NBA Insider Ric Bucher about how the Clippers can try to get better in the offseason.
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Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Butch Radio. Welcome in the Doug
Otlive Show on Fox Sports Radio. Coming to you live
in at Reckford, southern California, where most of l A
is Like, yep, that's the Clippers, all right. Chris Fowler
called the Monday night football game. Um, and he used
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to host Game Day. And I don't know if you
guys remember this. There's a time. Uh you know this
is Isaac you may remember it. I know that Dan
Buyer who's fake achianing in Wisconsin, remembers it. But Michigan
State was once coached by a guy named John L. Smith,
who by all accounts is a very very likable dude. Right,
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And I think they were playing Notre Dame and there
was a huge comeback win for the Irish, right, Um,
it was it was like in two thousand five or
two thousand and six, right, you know there was this
is it was a like a turning point for both programs.
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And Notre Dame comes back and wins forty to thirty seven.
And I just I remember that game distinctly. I remember
distinctly because they went to the game day crew, which
was Chris Fowler. Michigan State was three and oh, they
had beaten Pittsburgh. Notre Dame was two and one. They
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lost to lost to Michigan. Right, it was a chance
to to put the put There's two losses that put
you out of anything, um and anything reasonable in terms
of a big ball game that early in the season.
And Michigan State found a way, found a way to
lose after leading thirteen in a college game. And um,
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I also there was there was like a windstorm or
rain storm, something else happen. Anyway, this incredible comeback where
Drew Stanton became an NFL quarterback. Drew Stanton loses the game.
There's all this dejection that a sixteen point fourth quarter lead.
They go back to Chris Fowler and Chris Powler says,
that's why you're Michigan State anybody. I'll remember that. There's
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people that are driving around there like you know what,
I do remember that fourteen years ago. That's why your
Michigan state. You watched the Clippers last night and look, um,
I thought they would lose. I had them losing yesterday day.
I did believe that Game seven, pressure of losing it
three games to one lead, and they just they didn't
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look right. They looked off in terms of their chemistry.
They looked off in terms of their motivation. If you
were to pull people in l A right now, they
would probably say ra Most's lifelong Angelino, and so too
is Ryan Music. I was six years old when I
moved to southern California. They would all say, that's why
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you're the Clippers. That's why you're the Clippers. There's a
new piece out that just dropped. Chris Hayes, of course
an NBA insiders inside the bubble, and he said, quote
the rapport, what simply wasn't there for the Clippers certainly
wasn't there. In Game two and Montras, Harold Paul George
got into a heated verbal exchange during a time out.
Harold approached his teammate after a risky pass George not
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taking responsibility, arguing the past could have should have been
caught Um and Harold made the right had Harold made
the right place for us to set this set off mantras.
Harold responded something along the lines of you're always right.
No one can tell you nothing, and expletives were uttered
from both players. Guys started clapping. Then he clapped to motivation.
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They clapped to kind of diffuse the system so he
couldn't see what was really going on. You've got enough
people going chemistry, Lou Williams, the chemistry, Paul George, the chemistry,
Montres Harrow, It's the chemistry. Guess what it probably is.
It's the chemistry. What what did we tell you? I
said three things? Three things decide NBA playoff series. Actually
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it was four. But of the three or four things,
do you remember what they were? Rhyme music? You'll have
to refresh my memory, Ramos, I'm with Ryan on this
one of them. The first thing is who's healthy enough,
who's not right? Injuries? Okay, injuries are are a big one.
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Maybe the person who's calling you has all the other
I'm sorry about that. But the three things that decide
playoff series are matchups, um conditioning, all right, magic conditioning
and culture we and we said in basketball, culture, confidence,
conditioning are are huge factors. But but the fact is
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that when you you want to do culture or chemistry
or whatever, you know, at some point, when the going
gets top, you either bound together or you pull apart.
And it's pretty obvious what happened with both of these
two teams. The the Nuggets were down at the half
of all three games. All three games they outscored the
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Clippers in the second half of Game five, thirty five
in the second half of Game six, and fifty to
thirty three, just a pitiful offensive effort fifty to thirty
three in the second half of game seven. So what
was it, Well, it's a matchup. They didn't have anybody
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to match up with yokich al right when they did
when they went big, they're just not as good. But
they they've always had a weak spot in the middle.
They don't really have a true rim protector. So matchups
undid them. Conditioning clearly undid them, as they were not sharp.
They were not their players that were gassed asking out
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after a couple of like they needed line changes like
in hockey, and their culture their chemistry was just off,
so maybe we should have seen it coming. He was
Kawai and Leonard when he was asked how the Clippers
can improve next season. Just got to build some chemistry,
gotta get smarter, really piece upper team again. You know
we were close. Uh you know day was great, So
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we show ourselves and the fifth and last three games,
the last three games were pretty much meter that's coming
in and you know, not able to score the ball
in the third or the fourth quarter. And now to night,
which is a mirror. You know, you know, things that
grow from you gotta learn and grow from. And I look,
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I think that's a balanced look. I think it's a
bad look for Paul George to say this was not
a championship or bus season, right, Like, wait, what, you
got one more year left on your deal before a
player option, and this isn't championship or bust. M I mean,
when you're in Oklahoma City, was the championship or bust?
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When you were in that's like, this isn't everything every
year championship or bust. And then you come back and
you're like, look, you know, we did did the best
we can. Like I just his whole mentality is so odd.
Is so odd? Right, It just is. And I do
understand that you cannot win a championship and still have
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a great season. I would have made the case that
the Lakers lost in Game six or Game seven to
the Clippers was a hard fought game, and you went like,
you're like, look, they had the best record in the
West after being a disaster the year before. They didn't
have a vir Bradley wasn't perfectly put together team. Maybe
just lost a team a little bit more talented happens.
But the idea that the Clippers, who were walking around
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with their chest puffed way out weren't championship or bust,
it seems almost laughable. It seems almost insane. Things you
shouldn't say allowed ever to anybody. What are you doing right? What? What? What? What?
Why would you say that? But that's part of the
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the chemical makeup of Lou Williams going like this is
one of those things in and of itself, Lou Williams
going to a strip club to get wings is not
that big a deal during the time of quarantine, when
you're trying to win a championship and you've got a
couple of days away because somebody who's not really family
but close to family dies like that. That doesn't pass
the smell tested me that that shows where you are.
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You know, they had several guys leave the bubble, come back,
miss practice and a shocker. They're not in good shape,
They're not cohesive, and I understand that you couldn't be
around each other too much, but do we have the
Paul George cut. Paul George is the one who's like,
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we need to be around each other more. Like you
could have you were in a bubble for last two
and a half months, if dudes wouldn't have been leaving
or put on quarantine or whatever, you would have been
around each other more. Here's Paul George. It is what
it is. It's no cop out. The fact of the
matter is we didn't live up to that expectation. But
I think internally we've always felt this is not a
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championship or bus year for us. You know, we we
can only get better the longer we stay together, and
the more we're around each other, the more chemistry for
this group, the better. I thin best really to tell
at the tape of the season, we just didn't have
enough time together. Odd Paul the Paul George. Thing becomes
odd because I guarantee ys like Kawhi Leonard, He's probably wait, what,
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you know what? You didn't expect to win this ship
like I and I know what he's saying, like, you
cannot win a championship and still have a great year.
I understand that. It's just right after losing that game
up three games to one, it it misses, It misses
dramatically covering them. Next, is it time for the Browns
to give up? On Odell Beckham Jr. I'll tell you
my thoughts next. Be sure to catch the live edition
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of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Easter
noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart
Radio ah app. We usually do this in the second
hour of the show, but we had Dave Rebson from
the Big Ten Network on, so we feel like we
move it back a little bit. We'd like to bring
you something we heard earlier in the day on Fox
Sports One or on Fox Sports Radio. We call it.
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This is Colin Cowherd telling you why it signed for
the Browns. Move on from Ohm Jr. This feels like
a forced relationship. It's not working. He's been their seventeen games,
and in seventeen games he had twenty three yards. It
marked the fourth time in seventeen games. Odell Beckham five
years ago best receiver in football. Fourth time he had
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yardage in the twenties. Six times in seventeen games he's
had three catches. Are fewer this guy five years ago
was the best wide receiver. We were talking about Randy
Moss like it's not working. I've said this before. Relationships
can't be this hard. Amari Cooper and Dak Prescott the
minute he arrived worked, Randy Moss and Brady the minute
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he arrived at work. I mean, good god, Kyler Murray
and DeAndre Hopkins fifteen catches the minute he arrived. Emmanuel
Sanders and Garoppola. Last year it worked instantly. It can't
be this hard. Yeah, I mean, um, new Copkins. Look
at how well that worked. Now, look a lot of
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it does fall on the back of Baker Mayfield. And
let's see how it works on a Thursday night, right, Like,
if that wasn't a wake up call to Baker, if
that wasn't a wake up call to the Browns, And
now you take on a Bengals team and let's let's
see if they're any good. But I I offered up,
he's not necessarily the problem, but I also don't think
he's the solution. And it's one of those things that
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that quarterbacks have a tendency to do when they have
a star or a guy they have a relationship with
or a guy they respect, where they throw the ball,
they steer him down, They forced it to him just
because they feel like, well, you know, this guy makes
that much money, he's that good, he can he can
bail me out. And that's the instead of, you know,
the letting the defense determine who gets the football. So
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I do understand what Colins saying. There's a lot of
I do agree. But it's Thursday night. This is a
big and very telling game. We shouldn't freak out about
Owen two like we did previously, be because you know, um,
there's one more. There's more playoff spots now than there
ever was before. But if they were to lose and
fall to Owen two, that's Owen two in the division,
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and that would be wouldn't be the death knell, but
it would definitely be an uphill climb for the Cleveland Browns,
say it's pretty interesting what happens at about Beckham Jr.
Not all of sports is about talent. The Clippers are
like that. The Clippers you'd say, have more top to
bottom talent than the Nuggets. Lots about chemistry, getting along,
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playing together, being your best self. Yes, Ryan Music. So
for Odell Beckham Jr. This would then be the third stop.
Is this the time to look in the mirror that
he finally realizes it may not be everyone else's fault
all the time, because it just feels like, look, he's
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Mike frand Sessa, no reason to doubt his sources. But
we don't necessarily know how true or untrue. It may
be about the the fact that they may be trying
to trade him, not trying to trade him. But it's like,
how many times do we have to see try to
make it work with Odell Beckham Jr. Fired the coach,
bringing a new coach who says he can get the
most out of Oldell Beckham Jr. Only shortly after the
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season starts. He clearly can't get it done. I mean,
it happened at the end of his tenure in New York.
Then it happened again last year. Freddie Kitchens. Again, maybe
not Odell Beckham Jr's fault, But now we have another
new head coach, and it's just the same story over
and over again. And I wonder at some point when
he's going to have that realization that it may not
be everyone else's fault all the time. Um yeah, I
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get it, like I get it, like at some point
you do have to look yourself in the mirror. At
some point you filick yourself with the mirror. But again,
I'm not willing to put it. I thought Baker was
so below average and he was under like they couldn't
pick up they couldn't pick up what, by all accounts
was a fairly simple blitz scheme. They just he was
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struggling to it. So let's give him another game and
then you see, but we had just haven't had any
of those Odell Beckham Jr. Takeover moments. And I do
think that Baker is a problem. I do think that
the offense, the play calling is a problem. But at
some point his inability to affect a game in the
way in which he feels like anyone feels like he
needs affect the game can be called in the question
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Bleacher Report, Fox Sports One. Um, what happened to the the Clippers?
A lot of things that maybe in hindsight, I mean
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hindsight obviously is that perfect vision that we should have
seen coming. I mean I can pick it apart now
and tell you know why it happened. Um mantras Errol
obviously didn't work out during the uh during the break
and came back out of out of shape. And he's
an energy player. Lou Williams. You look closely at his
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play his playoff performances last year was an aberration and
bottom line was wasn't good enough to get the Clippers
out of the first round in spite of how badly
the Warriors played. Um uh Kauai Leonard, you know, in
terms of being a leader, Paul George, in terms of
being a guy who could step up and clutch situations.
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I look at now my analysis who who they were
and what they are or what they were and um,
I was looking at the glass half bowl, I was
looking at what they showed me glimpses of and said,
if they find this and do this consistently, they're the
best team in the league. But consistency and attention to
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detail and discipline is a muscle that I've often said,
you have to work. Uh. It is part of the equation,
and it was always a concern of mine. I just
I did it last year with Toronto. I thought he
would do it again with the Clippers. There was a
lot of things that I looked past, so um, they
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were who who we should have suspected they were. They
just they didn't become the thing that we could have
that we thought they would be. It's you make several
grade points there. Let me let me start with the
Kauai thing. And this is something I thought. I was
actually having a conversation yesterday with a friend of mine
who's in the bubble about Kauai and we're trying to
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figure out what's wrong with the Clippers, and he was like, look,
everybody's just kind of talking about they're just not really
into it. Like the bubble is really hard on these guys,
especially the older guys, not necessary because the family just
by some pot at some point, they're used to a
different lifestyle, whereas the younger guys they're not that far
removed from the um A A you in the hotel. Yeah, yeah, whatever,
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and they're you know, they're they're just out there hooping,
right that they're hooping. They got, they got, they got
nothing else. Um, but we're talking about I said, yes, right,
that's my son's playing Xbox right now. We got a
hoop work out for two hours later today, right, Like,
that's that's what you're programming for and then this weekend
we'll play a bunch of games. So um, but the
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Kauai thing, I said, you can't have a mute leader.
And he's like, well, look, san Antonio, Tim Duncan wasn't
a big talker. I was like, yeah, a little bit
more behind the scenes. But here's the difference Scen san Antonio,
Toronto and the Clippers. San Antonio and Toronto both had
a culture that was established. San Antonio had a championship
culture that he became a part of. Toronto had a
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at a very good culture. They just didn't have the
They didn't have the lead dog to take him to
the promised Land. That's the only difference the Clippers, they
had no culture, the completely new thing. So he couldn't
just be him. He had to be something that he wasn't,
which is a true leader, and that's not who he is. No,
I agree, and I think I looked at the work
ethic of and again during the regular season, and I
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agree with you. The bubble, uh has been a factor
in a multitude of ways. I don't know we've seen it.
I mean, the reality is all the young teams that
normally you have to earn your stripes and you have
to go through the wars of learning how to handle
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your energy and the pressure and the all of the
things that go along with a normal playoff situation. These
young players have not had to experience that. So these
young teams, and I put the Boston Celtics still in
that category because they're there. They are feeding off of
young stars. The Miami Heat, the Denver Nuggets, Um, They've all.
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They're all teams that have in normal situations, I don't
know that they'd be doing what they're doing. The Lakers,
I've we have been a huge outlier. Although you could
say Kyle Kuzma and Alex Caruso making the contributions that
they have. Uh, you know, would that happen in a
normal situation. But I don't believe that the Clippers would
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have been any different because of all the elements. Would
would Mantraz Harold have been more of a factor? Yeah,
I think I think so. Lou Williams, No, his style
of play doesn't hold up in the postseason. And ultimately
we saw the chemistry issues. And to your point, like
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the one guy who's been on Kent on championship teams
or the two guys Doc and Kauai, they can say
we know what it looks like, what it feels like,
and how you build one. And we talked all year
about like bringing that chemistry together. And I just figured
at some point one of the either one of those
two guys would sound the alarm and say, hey, you
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know what we're not getting there. We're we're missing something
and corrected, or would say we're missing something and you know,
I don't know how we're going to get it. But
since they didn't and I assumed that they understood what
they had and didn't have, I went along with it.
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And that was a mistake that I made. And um,
uh and I believe that Kauai and Doc demonstrated in
both cases that their championships may have been a product
as you as you well noted, may have been a
product of who they were with as opposed to who
they are. And that's that that that's even smarter way
of putting it. That's Rick Buker joining us lost in
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this is the Nuggets, right, Like, Um, what they've done
is nothing short of spectacular. I don't know if you
saw this sixty sty nine. They outscored the Clippers in
the second half in Game five, thirty five in Game six,
and fifty to thirty three in Game seven. And this
is a team that um Yokich was known as a
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guy who'd run out of gas late in games. Granted
we're not playing an altitude anymore. UM, how would you
describe what we've seen from Jamal Murray Yokich and this
and this Nuggets team? I I just I can't help
but give Mike Malone a ton of credit for how
he's utilized guys and like how he's navigated the whole
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Michael Porter Jr. Element, the way that he has used
his veterans. It's just obviously it helps that these Um,
you know, Jamal Murray I thought said it well, like
they're playing for something and and and and and as
far as social justice statements and everything, I don't know
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that anybody has handled it better than Jamal Murray. Um.
He hasn't been over the top with it. He's made
the statement, but he's he's talked about how it's going
on in the country right now, and the fight for
has has has served to be a cause and a
motivator for them playing. And that is the goal of
every coach, is to get guys to play for something
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greater than themselves. When lo and behold, the Nuggets found
that in Jamal Murray identified it. And but but the
manipulation of the rotations and just finding the matchups and
taking advantage of them, I just I don't. I'm still
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not sure how good the Nuggets really are. But um, Michael,
and that's why if I was, if I was writing
a piece right now, because I know who Mike Malone
is from the very start, and he was a little
too full metal, full metal jacket to uh to get
a team to play this way and to survive this way.
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There's been some profound change that has happened with Mike Malone,
and I've very curious to find out what it is
because he's evolved as a coach, and I think where
the Nuggets find themselves as a reflection of that. Then
you have have you ever seen a game decided by
a block shot where the guy who blocks the shots
hands actually inside the rim almost being dunked. I've never
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seen that, playmate, No, And you know it's funny, I
said going into the series like one, I'm fascinated by
it and um and I and I wondered, like who
was going to be who'se mismatch creation was going to
be a bigger factor Bam out of Bio or Jason
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Tatum as far as forcing the other team to shift,
and would we see Bam out of Bio against Jayson
Tatum and lo and behold we get that play, which
is but this is the thing, so to connect the two.
The Clippers basically got locked at the rim at game five,
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and then we waited to see, okay, how would they
respond and we saw basically they got blocked at the
rim two more times they came up small. I'm really
fascinated to see how Jason Tatum in particular in the
in the Celtics in general, respond to this because this
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is what champions are made of. You get blocked at
the rim, you have bad games, you lose heartbreaking, you
have heartbreaking losses. It's how you respond to them. And
I'm a I'm a believer in Jason Tatum, but he's
got to show it now, like he's got to demonstrate
that that was one game and it's in my rear
view mirror and I'm coming right back at you the
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next time and I'm going to get it done. But
that's that's where I love this and seeing these young
guys go at it is that there are there are
reputations and legacies being made. Bubble or no bubble. Rick
Buker joining us from Bleacher Report, Uh, has just been
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this is so so good. Um, what do people think
of Paul George in the league? Like this is this
is Paul George. And and I want to start by saying,
before you react, I do understand that culturally we get
to this like, well you're win, we had a bad season,
Like it's not really, But to take a listen to
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what he had to say, it is what it is.
It's no cop out. The fact of the matter is
we didn't live up to that expectation. But I think
internally we've always felt this is not a championship or
bus year for us. You know, we we can only
get better the longer we stay together and the more
we're around each other, the more chemis street for this group,
the better. I think that's really to tell. At the
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tape of the season, we just didn't have enough time together.
I mean, you had two and a half months in
the boat. If if lou Williams doesn't go to the
Strip Club, if Montres Harold doesn't leave, if Patrick Beverley
doesn't leave and then come back like, you have plenty
of time together. But you know, kind of you know,
they're all saying chemistry. He's the only one saying it
wasn't championship or bust. Yeah. Look, I but I'm not
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gonna fault Paul George for that because if he was
thinking that, if he thought that, that is on and
if that was expressed ever in any point, that is
on Doc and Kauai two to stamp that out and
say no, there's an urgency here, this is time to
get it done. And especially in light of the fact
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that you traded. I mean, let's not forget they traded
five first round picks Shade Gilda's Alexander and Danilo Gallinari
to get Paul George. They mortgage their future in order
to have this team together now, and Kauai Leonard is
only guaranteed to be part of your team another year.
So this idea that you've got time to cultivate that chemistry.
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If Paul George, Paul George should have if he ever
entertained that thought, or any other Clipper entertained that thought,
that should have been squashed and they should have known
that's not the deal. We're going to get it right now.
So to me, it's as much it looks. Paul George
is a is A is A is A number two,
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without question, is a number two. When I asked people
who could benefit the most if Michael Jordan was playing
the Day's game, like, who could be his Scottie Pippen, um,
Paul George was one of the names that a lot
of people came up with, And I think that I
tend to agree with that because Cattie Pippen said a
lot of dumb things when he was playing and winning
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championships and a lot of things. He would go, that's
not really and not only said, but did a lot
of things that you would think that's really not a
championship mindset. And yet Gottie Pippen was part of six
championship teams because he had the right number one in
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front of him and so I had the right number one,
had the right coach. Well that that's like that, that's
like I've heard this is a Herbert the Lakers. I've
heard that that what what the beauty to how it
works is Anthony Davis is probably their best player because
of his just Lebron, his age, whatever, But it's Lebron
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basically tells Anthony Davis what he needs from him, and
then Anthony Davis not only does it, but then Anthony
Davis then says it to the rest of the guys
what they need, and it's it's it's the perfect. Lebron
is the one, even though Anthony Davis is actually the
better player at this point this year, there's no question.
I mean, that's why Lebron was my m VT, because
people look at at Anthony Davis's numbers and go, well,
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how can Lebron Blabron might not even be the m
v P of his team. No, Anthony, this is what
is truly superstar status, great great players. Stars get their numbers.
Superstars get other guys numbers. And Anthony Davis is what
he is with the Lakers because of Lebron James. If
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you take Lebron James out of the equation and put
anybody else there, I would dare say, Kawhi Leonard included,
I'm not sure that you are, and well, I'm sure
you're not getting this Anthony Davis. And I still need
to see Anthony Davis in some big spots continue to
do what he's he's doing. He he and Paul George
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to me are very very similar, and that when it's
going good, they're good. But if you're in trouble and
you need to be picked up, can they take over?
And I feel, and I've said this is from the
very beginning, at some point, if the Lakers are going
to win a championship, they're going to need Anthony Davis
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to step up and be that guy, not just get
everything off of Lebron or the attention that Lebron receives,
but to to take over and be a playmaker. And
I'm I need to see it. He's certainly risen in
my estimation, but I think it is still the benefit
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of playing with Lebron James. Awesome stuff, Buke. Look forward
to talking with you more now we get the Western
and Eastern Conference finals. They've been fun so far, no
reason to believe they won't be fun some more. Thanks
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s R to listen live. Let's get to the press,
the press, Isaac Long, what you got? I got breaking
news for you, Doug. Multiple outlets are reporting that the
n c Double A Division One Council has just voted
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to begin the college basketball see season on the of November.
I think that's perfect right. You start during the Thanksgiving break.
They'll play these tournaments in the bubble. I would hope
there's no games for a couple of weeks. Then you
play more tournaments, uh in a bubble around Christmas time,
and then you figure out what you want to do
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for for conference play. I think that's how it always
should be. We always keep pushing it up to start earlier.
Why why don't don't compete? And honestly, if you give
away the Thanksgiving holiday in the future and start after Christmas,
even better stay in college sports. Obviously the big story
Big Ten football coming back, but also the contradictory comments
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from Pactroyal Commissioner Larry Scott and Governor Gavin Newsom of California.
Scott's saying earlier today the PAC twelve schools in California
and Oregon do not have state or local approval to
start contact practice. California Governor Governor Gavin Newsom contradicted that
we played that earlier. Well, just now Oregon Governor, Oregon
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Governor Kate Brown and the Oregon Health Authority have just
granted the organ ducts and Oregon State Beavers and exemption
from Oregon state sports restrictions. Now, the state must still
approve the health and safety protocols that the schools are
going to implement. But there's kind of a catch here.
The spokesperson for Governor Kate Brown of Oregon just said,
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let me stress that up to this point. We have
received no written plans for the upcoming season from the
Pact twelve conference, and we have no details about their
new rapid testing proposal. Until we have those details, we
can't move forward in the process. M hmmm, um. I
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just we have here is a failure to communicate and
the only common the only commonality here between California and
Oregon seems to be the Pactual Conference. I'm just saying, well,
we'll see what I would say. The pack All's gonna
end up playing, right, They'll be pressure to do so.
I'm sure they're in scrambled mode right now. Yeah, just
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just as long as they want to wind up playing.
We don't need to see how the sausage is made.
In the National Football League, New York Jets CEO Christopher Johnson,
speaking to reporters for the first time in ten months,
said he has full confidence in Jets head coach Adam Gaze. Unfortunately,
that's not a joke. He actually said that. He said,
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I think he has a lot more in him as
a head coach than some of our fans are giving
him credit for. I understand they want to see success.
I think that they will. He wanted to say that
Gays has a brilliant offensive mind. M hmmm mmmmm mm
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hmm hm. Well, here's the good news. The dreaded vote
of confidence after the season means the guy keeps his job.
Dreaded votence confidence after the first game the season means
he gets fired mid season. That's that's why the dread
vote of confidence. That's a very good point. Brilliant offensive mind, brilliant.
You know when he was brilliant when he had Peyton
Manning as his quarterback. Ah, yes, he paid. What do
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you want to run that sounds good? Sounds good? What
do you want to run something else that sounds good?
Let's do that. Just run. Payton's got some ideas. Guys,
pay attention. It's good coaching. Just run. Omaha omaha, omaha,
miss pay Manning back there gyrating. That's funny is people
have taken so much to this Tom Brady is the
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goat thing, like there was a Paymenting was the goat
by some people's estimation when he retired, and you know,
all of a sudden, it's Tom Brady is to go
to whatever payment. Was a great quarterback. I still I
misspread five, I miss bread five. Just trying to chuck
it through a cement black brick wall, always thinking he could. Well,
I'll try to give you your fixture. Let me see
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if I can do this. Speaking and finally, speaking of
brilliant offensive lines, the head coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
Bruce Arians Today, let's revisit his comments addressing his criticism
of new quarterback Tom Brady's play. There seems to be
these unwritten rules that you can't speak ill of a quarterback.
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But it seems like Tom Brady is a guy that
can handle tough coaching too. Yeah, with Tom and I
were fined, so I don't really care what other people think.
So it's just what he and I think. And uh,
you know, we we left the stadium, find, we show
up today find so there ain't nothing to talk about, okay,
An I'm talking about You're good, get out there and
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pressed that press. It's a calm day, calm day, Ramos.
Today night we got Eastern and Western Conference finals, same time.
Tomorrow we have Battle of of Ohio, NFL football and
NBA Tonight baseball kind of night off, night off. It's
a Wednesday, so he can't even do the Taco Tuesday thing.
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It's Wednesday doesn't right. I will say this, Um, it's
it's been hard to wrap my head for a year
since Paul George and Kawhi Leonards selected the Clippers over
the Lakers. Right, And to anyone who you know, you're younger,
you're like, look, Clippers have been good, Lakers been bad.
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Like this is why it's just hard to convince those
of us who have lived long enough that the Clippers
are capable of winning a championship, and to this point
they're not. And chemistry does in fact matter. Kids, this
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Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Butch Radio. Welcome in the Doug
Otlive Show on Fox Sports Radio. Coming to you live
in at Reckford, southern California, where most of l A
is Like, yep, that's the Clippers, all right. Chris Fowler
called the Monday night football game. Um, and he used
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to host Game Day. And I don't know if you
guys remember this. There's a time. Uh you know this
is Isaac you may remember it. I know that Dan
Buyer who's fake achianing in Wisconsin, remembers it. But Michigan
State was once coached by a guy named John L. Smith,
who by all accounts is a very very likable dude. Right,
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And I think they were playing Notre Dame and there
was a huge comeback win for the Irish, right, Um,
it was it was like in two thousand five or
two thousand and six, right, you know there was this
is it was a like a turning point for both programs.
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And Notre Dame comes back and wins forty to thirty seven.
And I just I remember that game distinctly. I remember
distinctly because they went to the game day crew, which
was Chris Fowler. Michigan State was three and oh, they
had beaten Pittsburgh. Notre Dame was two and one. They
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lost to lost to Michigan. Right, it was a chance
to to put the put There's two losses that put
you out of anything, um and anything reasonable in terms
of a big ball game that early in the season.
And Michigan State found a way, found a way to
lose after leading thirteen in a college game. And um,
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I also there was there was like a windstorm or
rain storm, something else happen. Anyway, this incredible comeback where
Drew Stanton became an NFL quarterback. Drew Stanton loses the game.
There's all this dejection that a sixteen point fourth quarter lead.
They go back to Chris Fowler and Chris Powler says,
that's why you're Michigan State anybody. I'll remember that. There's
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people that are driving around there like you know what,
I do remember that fourteen years ago. That's why your
Michigan state. You watched the Clippers last night and look, um,
I thought they would lose. I had them losing yesterday day.
I did believe that Game seven, pressure of losing it
three games to one lead, and they just they didn't
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look right. They looked off in terms of their chemistry.
They looked off in terms of their motivation. If you
were to pull people in l A right now, they
would probably say ra Most's lifelong Angelino, and so too
is Ryan Music. I was six years old when I
moved to southern California. They would all say, that's why
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you're the Clippers. That's why you're the Clippers. There's a
new piece out that just dropped. Chris Hayes, of course
an NBA insiders inside the bubble, and he said, quote
the rapport, what simply wasn't there for the Clippers certainly
wasn't there. In Game two and Montras, Harold Paul George
got into a heated verbal exchange during a time out.
Harold approached his teammate after a risky pass George not
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taking responsibility, arguing the past could have should have been
caught Um and Harold made the right had Harold made
the right place for us to set this set off mantras.
Harold responded something along the lines of you're always right.
No one can tell you nothing, and expletives were uttered
from both players. Guys started clapping. Then he clapped to motivation.
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They clapped to kind of diffuse the system so he
couldn't see what was really going on. You've got enough
people going chemistry, Lou Williams, the chemistry, Paul George, the chemistry,
Montres Harrow, It's the chemistry. Guess what it probably is.
It's the chemistry. What what did we tell you? I
said three things? Three things decide NBA playoff series. Actually
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it was four. But of the three or four things,
do you remember what they were? Rhyme music? You'll have
to refresh my memory, Ramos, I'm with Ryan on this
one of them. The first thing is who's healthy enough,
who's not right? Injuries? Okay, injuries are are a big one.
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Maybe the person who's calling you has all the other
I'm sorry about that. But the three things that decide
playoff series are matchups, um conditioning, all right, magic conditioning
and culture we and we said in basketball, culture, confidence,
conditioning are are huge factors. But but the fact is
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that when you you want to do culture or chemistry
or whatever, you know, at some point, when the going
gets top, you either bound together or you pull apart.
And it's pretty obvious what happened with both of these
two teams. The the Nuggets were down at the half
of all three games. All three games they outscored the
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Clippers in the second half of Game five, thirty five
in the second half of Game six, and fifty to
thirty three, just a pitiful offensive effort fifty to thirty
three in the second half of game seven. So what
was it, Well, it's a matchup. They didn't have anybody
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to match up with yokich al right when they did
when they went big, they're just not as good. But
they they've always had a weak spot in the middle.
They don't really have a true rim protector. So matchups
undid them. Conditioning clearly undid them, as they were not sharp.
They were not their players that were gassed asking out
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after a couple of like they needed line changes like
in hockey, and their culture their chemistry was just off,
so maybe we should have seen it coming. He was
Kawai and Leonard when he was asked how the Clippers
can improve next season. Just got to build some chemistry,
gotta get smarter, really piece upper team again. You know
we were close. Uh you know day was great, So
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we show ourselves and the fifth and last three games,
the last three games were pretty much meter that's coming
in and you know, not able to score the ball
in the third or the fourth quarter. And now to night,
which is a mirror. You know, you know, things that
grow from you gotta learn and grow from. And I look,
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I think that's a balanced look. I think it's a
bad look for Paul George to say this was not
a championship or bus season, right, Like, wait, what, you
got one more year left on your deal before a
player option, and this isn't championship or bust. M I mean,
when you're in Oklahoma City, was the championship or bust?
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When you were in that's like, this isn't everything every
year championship or bust. And then you come back and
you're like, look, you know, we did did the best
we can. Like I just his whole mentality is so odd.
Is so odd? Right, It just is. And I do
understand that you cannot win a championship and still have
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a great season. I would have made the case that
the Lakers lost in Game six or Game seven to
the Clippers was a hard fought game, and you went like,
you're like, look, they had the best record in the
West after being a disaster the year before. They didn't
have a vir Bradley wasn't perfectly put together team. Maybe
just lost a team a little bit more talented happens.
But the idea that the Clippers, who were walking around
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with their chest puffed way out weren't championship or bust,
it seems almost laughable. It seems almost insane. Things you
shouldn't say allowed ever to anybody. What are you doing right? What? What? What? What?
Why would you say that? But that's part of the
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the chemical makeup of Lou Williams going like this is
one of those things in and of itself, Lou Williams
going to a strip club to get wings is not
that big a deal during the time of quarantine, when
you're trying to win a championship and you've got a
couple of days away because somebody who's not really family
but close to family dies like that. That doesn't pass
the smell tested me that that shows where you are.
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You know, they had several guys leave the bubble, come back,
miss practice and a shocker. They're not in good shape,
They're not cohesive, and I understand that you couldn't be
around each other too much, but do we have the
Paul George cut. Paul George is the one who's like,
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we need to be around each other more. Like you
could have you were in a bubble for last two
and a half months, if dudes wouldn't have been leaving
or put on quarantine or whatever, you would have been
around each other more. Here's Paul George. It is what
it is. It's no cop out. The fact of the
matter is we didn't live up to that expectation. But
I think internally we've always felt this is not a
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championship or bus year for us. You know, we we
can only get better the longer we stay together, and
the more we're around each other, the more chemistry for
this group, the better. I thin best really to tell
at the tape of the season, we just didn't have
enough time together. Odd Paul the Paul George. Thing becomes
odd because I guarantee ys like Kawhi Leonard, He's probably wait, what,
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you know what? You didn't expect to win this ship
like I and I know what he's saying, like, you
cannot win a championship and still have a great year.
I understand that. It's just right after losing that game
up three games to one, it it misses, It misses
dramatically covering them. Next, is it time for the Browns
to give up? On Odell Beckham Jr. I'll tell you
my thoughts next. Be sure to catch the live edition
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of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Easter
noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart
Radio ah app. We usually do this in the second
hour of the show, but we had Dave Rebson from
the Big Ten Network on, so we feel like we
move it back a little bit. We'd like to bring
you something we heard earlier in the day on Fox
Sports One or on Fox Sports Radio. We call it.
(11:00):
This is Colin Cowherd telling you why it signed for
the Browns. Move on from Ohm Jr. This feels like
a forced relationship. It's not working. He's been their seventeen games,
and in seventeen games he had twenty three yards. It
marked the fourth time in seventeen games. Odell Beckham five
years ago best receiver in football. Fourth time he had
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yardage in the twenties. Six times in seventeen games he's
had three catches. Are fewer this guy five years ago
was the best wide receiver. We were talking about Randy
Moss like it's not working. I've said this before. Relationships
can't be this hard. Amari Cooper and Dak Prescott the
minute he arrived worked, Randy Moss and Brady the minute
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he arrived at work. I mean, good god, Kyler Murray
and DeAndre Hopkins fifteen catches the minute he arrived. Emmanuel
Sanders and Garoppola. Last year it worked instantly. It can't
be this hard. Yeah, I mean, um, new Copkins. Look
at how well that worked. Now, look a lot of
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it does fall on the back of Baker Mayfield. And
let's see how it works on a Thursday night, right, Like,
if that wasn't a wake up call to Baker, if
that wasn't a wake up call to the Browns, And
now you take on a Bengals team and let's let's
see if they're any good. But I I offered up,
he's not necessarily the problem, but I also don't think
he's the solution. And it's one of those things that
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that quarterbacks have a tendency to do when they have
a star or a guy they have a relationship with
or a guy they respect, where they throw the ball,
they steer him down, They forced it to him just
because they feel like, well, you know, this guy makes
that much money, he's that good, he can he can
bail me out. And that's the instead of, you know,
the letting the defense determine who gets the football. So
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I do understand what Colins saying. There's a lot of
I do agree. But it's Thursday night. This is a
big and very telling game. We shouldn't freak out about
Owen two like we did previously, be because you know, um,
there's one more. There's more playoff spots now than there
ever was before. But if they were to lose and
fall to Owen two, that's Owen two in the division,
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and that would be wouldn't be the death knell, but
it would definitely be an uphill climb for the Cleveland Browns,
say it's pretty interesting what happens at about Beckham Jr.
Not all of sports is about talent. The Clippers are
like that. The Clippers you'd say, have more top to
bottom talent than the Nuggets. Lots about chemistry, getting along,
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playing together, being your best self. Yes, Ryan Music. So
for Odell Beckham Jr. This would then be the third stop.
Is this the time to look in the mirror that
he finally realizes it may not be everyone else's fault
all the time, because it just feels like, look, he's
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Mike frand Sessa, no reason to doubt his sources. But
we don't necessarily know how true or untrue. It may
be about the the fact that they may be trying
to trade him, not trying to trade him. But it's like,
how many times do we have to see try to
make it work with Odell Beckham Jr. Fired the coach,
bringing a new coach who says he can get the
most out of Oldell Beckham Jr. Only shortly after the
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season starts. He clearly can't get it done. I mean,
it happened at the end of his tenure in New York.
Then it happened again last year. Freddie Kitchens. Again, maybe
not Odell Beckham Jr's fault, But now we have another
new head coach, and it's just the same story over
and over again. And I wonder at some point when
he's going to have that realization that it may not
be everyone else's fault all the time. Um yeah, I
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get it, like I get it, like at some point
you do have to look yourself in the mirror. At
some point you filick yourself with the mirror. But again,
I'm not willing to put it. I thought Baker was
so below average and he was under like they couldn't
pick up they couldn't pick up what, by all accounts
was a fairly simple blitz scheme. They just he was
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struggling to it. So let's give him another game and
then you see, but we had just haven't had any
of those Odell Beckham Jr. Takeover moments. And I do
think that Baker is a problem. I do think that
the offense, the play calling is a problem. But at
some point his inability to affect a game in the
way in which he feels like anyone feels like he
needs affect the game can be called in the question
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He'll be on NBA. Anybody's All NBA Team. He's Rick Buker,
Bleacher Report, Fox Sports One. Um, what happened to the the Clippers?
A lot of things that maybe in hindsight, I mean
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hindsight obviously is that perfect vision that we should have
seen coming. I mean I can pick it apart now
and tell you know why it happened. Um mantras Errol
obviously didn't work out during the uh during the break
and came back out of out of shape. And he's
an energy player. Lou Williams. You look closely at his
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play his playoff performances last year was an aberration and
bottom line was wasn't good enough to get the Clippers
out of the first round in spite of how badly
the Warriors played. Um uh Kauai Leonard, you know, in
terms of being a leader, Paul George, in terms of
being a guy who could step up and clutch situations.
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I look at now my analysis who who they were
and what they are or what they were and um,
I was looking at the glass half bowl, I was
looking at what they showed me glimpses of and said,
if they find this and do this consistently, they're the
best team in the league. But consistency and attention to
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detail and discipline is a muscle that I've often said,
you have to work. Uh. It is part of the equation,
and it was always a concern of mine. I just
I did it last year with Toronto. I thought he
would do it again with the Clippers. There was a
lot of things that I looked past, so um, they
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were who who we should have suspected they were. They
just they didn't become the thing that we could have
that we thought they would be. It's you make several
grade points there. Let me let me start with the
Kauai thing. And this is something I thought. I was
actually having a conversation yesterday with a friend of mine
who's in the bubble about Kauai and we're trying to
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figure out what's wrong with the Clippers, and he was like, look,
everybody's just kind of talking about they're just not really
into it. Like the bubble is really hard on these guys,
especially the older guys, not necessary because the family just
by some pot at some point, they're used to a
different lifestyle, whereas the younger guys they're not that far
removed from the um A A you in the hotel. Yeah, yeah, whatever,
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and they're you know, they're they're just out there hooping,
right that they're hooping. They got, they got, they got
nothing else. Um, but we're talking about I said, yes, right,
that's my son's playing Xbox right now. We got a
hoop work out for two hours later today, right, Like,
that's that's what you're programming for and then this weekend
we'll play a bunch of games. So um, but the
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Kauai thing, I said, you can't have a mute leader.
And he's like, well, look, san Antonio, Tim Duncan wasn't
a big talker. I was like, yeah, a little bit
more behind the scenes. But here's the difference Scen san Antonio,
Toronto and the Clippers. San Antonio and Toronto both had
a culture that was established. San Antonio had a championship
culture that he became a part of. Toronto had a
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at a very good culture. They just didn't have the
They didn't have the lead dog to take him to
the promised Land. That's the only difference the Clippers, they
had no culture, the completely new thing. So he couldn't
just be him. He had to be something that he wasn't,
which is a true leader, and that's not who he is. No,
I agree, and I think I looked at the work
ethic of and again during the regular season, and I
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agree with you. The bubble, uh has been a factor
in a multitude of ways. I don't know we've seen it.
I mean, the reality is all the young teams that
normally you have to earn your stripes and you have
to go through the wars of learning how to handle
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your energy and the pressure and the all of the
things that go along with a normal playoff situation. These
young players have not had to experience that. So these
young teams, and I put the Boston Celtics still in
that category because they're there. They are feeding off of
young stars. The Miami Heat, the Denver Nuggets, Um, They've all.
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They're all teams that have in normal situations, I don't
know that they'd be doing what they're doing. The Lakers,
I've we have been a huge outlier. Although you could
say Kyle Kuzma and Alex Caruso making the contributions that
they have. Uh, you know, would that happen in a
normal situation. But I don't believe that the Clippers would
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have been any different because of all the elements. Would
would Mantraz Harold have been more of a factor? Yeah,
I think I think so. Lou Williams, No, his style
of play doesn't hold up in the postseason. And ultimately
we saw the chemistry issues. And to your point, like
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the one guy who's been on Kent on championship teams
or the two guys Doc and Kauai, they can say
we know what it looks like, what it feels like,
and how you build one. And we talked all year
about like bringing that chemistry together. And I just figured
at some point one of the either one of those
two guys would sound the alarm and say, hey, you
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know what we're not getting there. We're we're missing something
and corrected, or would say we're missing something and you know,
I don't know how we're going to get it. But
since they didn't and I assumed that they understood what
they had and didn't have, I went along with it.
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And that was a mistake that I made. And um,
uh and I believe that Kauai and Doc demonstrated in
both cases that their championships may have been a product
as you as you well noted, may have been a
product of who they were with as opposed to who
they are. And that's that that that's even smarter way
of putting it. That's Rick Buker joining us lost in
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this is the Nuggets, right, Like, Um, what they've done
is nothing short of spectacular. I don't know if you
saw this sixty sty nine. They outscored the Clippers in
the second half in Game five, thirty five in Game six,
and fifty to thirty three in Game seven. And this
is a team that um Yokich was known as a
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guy who'd run out of gas late in games. Granted
we're not playing an altitude anymore. UM, how would you
describe what we've seen from Jamal Murray Yokich and this
and this Nuggets team? I I just I can't help
but give Mike Malone a ton of credit for how
he's utilized guys and like how he's navigated the whole
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Michael Porter Jr. Element, the way that he has used
his veterans. It's just obviously it helps that these Um,
you know, Jamal Murray I thought said it well, like
they're playing for something and and and and and as
far as social justice statements and everything, I don't know
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that anybody has handled it better than Jamal Murray. Um.
He hasn't been over the top with it. He's made
the statement, but he's he's talked about how it's going
on in the country right now, and the fight for
has has has served to be a cause and a
motivator for them playing. And that is the goal of
every coach, is to get guys to play for something
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greater than themselves. When lo and behold, the Nuggets found
that in Jamal Murray identified it. And but but the
manipulation of the rotations and just finding the matchups and
taking advantage of them, I just I don't. I'm still
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not sure how good the Nuggets really are. But um, Michael,
and that's why if I was, if I was writing
a piece right now, because I know who Mike Malone
is from the very start, and he was a little
too full metal, full metal jacket to uh to get
a team to play this way and to survive this way.
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There's been some profound change that has happened with Mike Malone,
and I've very curious to find out what it is
because he's evolved as a coach, and I think where
the Nuggets find themselves as a reflection of that. Then
you have have you ever seen a game decided by
a block shot where the guy who blocks the shots
hands actually inside the rim almost being dunked. I've never
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seen that, playmate, No, And you know it's funny, I
said going into the series like one, I'm fascinated by
it and um and I and I wondered, like who
was going to be who'se mismatch creation was going to
be a bigger factor Bam out of Bio or Jason
(24:40):
Tatum as far as forcing the other team to shift,
and would we see Bam out of Bio against Jayson
Tatum and lo and behold we get that play, which
is but this is the thing, so to connect the two.
The Clippers basically got locked at the rim at game five,
(25:03):
and then we waited to see, okay, how would they
respond and we saw basically they got blocked at the
rim two more times they came up small. I'm really
fascinated to see how Jason Tatum in particular in the
in the Celtics in general, respond to this because this
(25:23):
is what champions are made of. You get blocked at
the rim, you have bad games, you lose heartbreaking, you
have heartbreaking losses. It's how you respond to them. And
I'm a I'm a believer in Jason Tatum, but he's
got to show it now, like he's got to demonstrate
that that was one game and it's in my rear
view mirror and I'm coming right back at you the
(25:45):
next time and I'm going to get it done. But
that's that's where I love this and seeing these young
guys go at it is that there are there are
reputations and legacies being made. Bubble or no bubble. Rick
Buker joining us from Bleacher Report, Uh, has just been
(26:06):
this is so so good. Um, what do people think
of Paul George in the league? Like this is this
is Paul George. And and I want to start by saying,
before you react, I do understand that culturally we get
to this like, well you're win, we had a bad season,
Like it's not really, But to take a listen to
(26:27):
what he had to say, it is what it is.
It's no cop out. The fact of the matter is
we didn't live up to that expectation. But I think
internally we've always felt this is not a championship or
bus year for us. You know, we we can only
get better the longer we stay together and the more
we're around each other, the more chemis street for this group,
the better. I think that's really to tell. At the
(26:48):
tape of the season, we just didn't have enough time together.
I mean, you had two and a half months in
the boat. If if lou Williams doesn't go to the
Strip Club, if Montres Harold doesn't leave, if Patrick Beverley
doesn't leave and then come back like, you have plenty
of time together. But you know, kind of you know,
they're all saying chemistry. He's the only one saying it
wasn't championship or bust. Yeah. Look, I but I'm not
(27:11):
gonna fault Paul George for that because if he was
thinking that, if he thought that, that is on and
if that was expressed ever in any point, that is
on Doc and Kauai two to stamp that out and
say no, there's an urgency here, this is time to
get it done. And especially in light of the fact
(27:33):
that you traded. I mean, let's not forget they traded
five first round picks Shade Gilda's Alexander and Danilo Gallinari
to get Paul George. They mortgage their future in order
to have this team together now, and Kauai Leonard is
only guaranteed to be part of your team another year.
So this idea that you've got time to cultivate that chemistry.
(27:58):
If Paul George, Paul George should have if he ever
entertained that thought, or any other Clipper entertained that thought,
that should have been squashed and they should have known
that's not the deal. We're going to get it right now.
So to me, it's as much it looks. Paul George
is a is A is A is A number two,
(28:22):
without question, is a number two. When I asked people
who could benefit the most if Michael Jordan was playing
the Day's game, like, who could be his Scottie Pippen, um,
Paul George was one of the names that a lot
of people came up with, And I think that I
tend to agree with that because Cattie Pippen said a
lot of dumb things when he was playing and winning
(28:44):
championships and a lot of things. He would go, that's
not really and not only said, but did a lot
of things that you would think that's really not a
championship mindset. And yet Gottie Pippen was part of six
championship teams because he had the right number one in
(29:05):
front of him and so I had the right number one,
had the right coach. Well that that's like that, that's
like I've heard this is a Herbert the Lakers. I've
heard that that what what the beauty to how it
works is Anthony Davis is probably their best player because
of his just Lebron, his age, whatever, But it's Lebron
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basically tells Anthony Davis what he needs from him, and
then Anthony Davis not only does it, but then Anthony
Davis then says it to the rest of the guys
what they need, and it's it's it's the perfect. Lebron
is the one, even though Anthony Davis is actually the
better player at this point this year, there's no question.
I mean, that's why Lebron was my m VT, because
people look at at Anthony Davis's numbers and go, well,
(29:48):
how can Lebron Blabron might not even be the m
v P of his team. No, Anthony, this is what
is truly superstar status, great great players. Stars get their numbers.
Superstars get other guys numbers. And Anthony Davis is what
he is with the Lakers because of Lebron James. If
(30:08):
you take Lebron James out of the equation and put
anybody else there, I would dare say, Kawhi Leonard included,
I'm not sure that you are, and well, I'm sure
you're not getting this Anthony Davis. And I still need
to see Anthony Davis in some big spots continue to
do what he's he's doing. He he and Paul George
(30:30):
to me are very very similar, and that when it's
going good, they're good. But if you're in trouble and
you need to be picked up, can they take over?
And I feel, and I've said this is from the
very beginning, at some point, if the Lakers are going
to win a championship, they're going to need Anthony Davis
(30:51):
to step up and be that guy, not just get
everything off of Lebron or the attention that Lebron receives,
but to to take over and be a playmaker. And
I'm I need to see it. He's certainly risen in
my estimation, but I think it is still the benefit
(31:14):
of playing with Lebron James. Awesome stuff, Buke. Look forward
to talking with you more now we get the Western
and Eastern Conference finals. They've been fun so far, no
reason to believe they won't be fun some more. Thanks
for joining us, Yes, sir, all right, that's the voice
of Rick Buker. Big news in college football and basketball
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s R to listen live. Let's get to the press,
the press, Isaac Long, what you got? I got breaking
news for you, Doug. Multiple outlets are reporting that the
n c Double A Division One Council has just voted
(31:57):
to begin the college basketball see season on the of November.
I think that's perfect right. You start during the Thanksgiving break.
They'll play these tournaments in the bubble. I would hope
there's no games for a couple of weeks. Then you
play more tournaments, uh in a bubble around Christmas time,
and then you figure out what you want to do
(32:18):
for for conference play. I think that's how it always
should be. We always keep pushing it up to start earlier.
Why why don't don't compete? And honestly, if you give
away the Thanksgiving holiday in the future and start after Christmas,
even better stay in college sports. Obviously the big story
Big Ten football coming back, but also the contradictory comments
(32:39):
from Pactroyal Commissioner Larry Scott and Governor Gavin Newsom of California.
Scott's saying earlier today the PAC twelve schools in California
and Oregon do not have state or local approval to
start contact practice. California Governor Governor Gavin Newsom contradicted that
we played that earlier. Well, just now Oregon Governor, Oregon
(33:01):
Governor Kate Brown and the Oregon Health Authority have just
granted the organ ducts and Oregon State Beavers and exemption
from Oregon state sports restrictions. Now, the state must still
approve the health and safety protocols that the schools are
going to implement. But there's kind of a catch here.
The spokesperson for Governor Kate Brown of Oregon just said,
(33:23):
let me stress that up to this point. We have
received no written plans for the upcoming season from the
Pact twelve conference, and we have no details about their
new rapid testing proposal. Until we have those details, we
can't move forward in the process. M hmmm, um. I
(33:44):
just we have here is a failure to communicate and
the only common the only commonality here between California and
Oregon seems to be the Pactual Conference. I'm just saying, well,
we'll see what I would say. The pack All's gonna
end up playing, right, They'll be pressure to do so.
I'm sure they're in scrambled mode right now. Yeah, just
(34:05):
just as long as they want to wind up playing.
We don't need to see how the sausage is made.
In the National Football League, New York Jets CEO Christopher Johnson,
speaking to reporters for the first time in ten months,
said he has full confidence in Jets head coach Adam Gaze. Unfortunately,
that's not a joke. He actually said that. He said,
(34:26):
I think he has a lot more in him as
a head coach than some of our fans are giving
him credit for. I understand they want to see success.
I think that they will. He wanted to say that
Gays has a brilliant offensive mind. M hmmm mmmmm mm
(34:47):
hmm hm. Well, here's the good news. The dreaded vote
of confidence after the season means the guy keeps his job.
Dreaded votence confidence after the first game the season means
he gets fired mid season. That's that's why the dread
vote of confidence. That's a very good point. Brilliant offensive mind, brilliant.
You know when he was brilliant when he had Peyton
Manning as his quarterback. Ah, yes, he paid. What do
(35:10):
you want to run that sounds good? Sounds good? What
do you want to run something else that sounds good?
Let's do that. Just run. Payton's got some ideas. Guys,
pay attention. It's good coaching. Just run. Omaha omaha, omaha,
miss pay Manning back there gyrating. That's funny is people
have taken so much to this Tom Brady is the
(35:31):
goat thing, like there was a Paymenting was the goat
by some people's estimation when he retired, and you know,
all of a sudden, it's Tom Brady is to go
to whatever payment. Was a great quarterback. I still I
misspread five, I miss bread five. Just trying to chuck
it through a cement black brick wall, always thinking he could. Well,
I'll try to give you your fixture. Let me see
(35:52):
if I can do this. Speaking and finally, speaking of
brilliant offensive lines, the head coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
Bruce Arians Today, let's revisit his comments addressing his criticism
of new quarterback Tom Brady's play. There seems to be
these unwritten rules that you can't speak ill of a quarterback.
(36:13):
But it seems like Tom Brady is a guy that
can handle tough coaching too. Yeah, with Tom and I
were fined, so I don't really care what other people think.
So it's just what he and I think. And uh,
you know, we we left the stadium, find, we show
up today find so there ain't nothing to talk about, okay,
An I'm talking about You're good, get out there and
(36:37):
pressed that press. It's a calm day, calm day, Ramos.
Today night we got Eastern and Western Conference finals, same time.
Tomorrow we have Battle of of Ohio, NFL football and
NBA Tonight baseball kind of night off, night off. It's
a Wednesday, so he can't even do the Taco Tuesday thing.
(36:58):
It's Wednesday doesn't right. I will say this, Um, it's
it's been hard to wrap my head for a year
since Paul George and Kawhi Leonards selected the Clippers over
the Lakers. Right, And to anyone who you know, you're younger,
you're like, look, Clippers have been good, Lakers been bad.
(37:19):
Like this is why it's just hard to convince those
of us who have lived long enough that the Clippers
are capable of winning a championship, and to this point
they're not. And chemistry does in fact matter. Kids, this
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