October 19, 2020 • 38 mins
Doug talks about Baker Mayfield’s struggles against the Steelers defense and if the team is willing to stick with him as their long term quarterback. FOX Sports lead college football analyst Joel Klatt joins the show to discuss Alabama’s dominating win over Georgia and preparing for the start of the BIG 10.
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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. What a Duck Got
Leave Show? Fuck Sports Radio? Man. I love some postseason baseball,
don't you? Ramos loved every minute of it? Did you?
Did you lose faith at any time? Was there ever
a moment where you're like, oh, we're gonna lose this game? Uh?
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Not yesterday? No, yesterday. I figure, if you're down three
games to one and it's to nothing, I knew to
nothing wasn't gonna be enough to win that game. Not
with a bullpen, not not with Andrewson in trouble in
the first, second and third ending. I knew. I knew
that was gonna be Uh. I mean, three to two,
it's still a little score, but I knew that that
wasn't going to be the The Dodgers were going to
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score runs. Did you know they were gonna leave? U?
You raised in there. Uh, well, Jansen had pitched the
last two nights, so I figured if they put him
in that would be not good because he's had a
troubled season and that's the last thing I need to
do is have him pitched three games in a row.
So it was a great movie. Look I put up
on Twitter yesterday all the crap talk that Dave Roberts
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get do you think that? Kiki here and and just
just grabbed a bat and said, Hey, I'm gonna go
back for Jack Peterson, see you guys later, Like that's
what Dave Roberts jet. He said, you go pin jet
Like he's a manager, that's what he does. And the
guy it's a home run. Like nobody talks about that.
They always talking about like how bad he did when
things or things go right, it was the computer when
things go wrong, analytics and it was it was analysts'
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does help, Like, of course it does. Part of it
is I think a lot of people don't understand. How
it's been explained to me, is like, yeah, there's analytics department. Yes,
they helped make some decisions without like no decision, But
at the end of the day, it is in fact
the manager's call and they do go, and they wouldn't
have taken the job unless they knew, like this is
the way we're gonna do things. And they work through things,
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and you know, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't work.
I'm happy they didn't throw Kershaw out there the night, right, Like,
the last thing I want is your pitching. Well, he's
left handed, so you have the ability if you give
up a runner on first Patre as they did, you
gotta runner, got ability to keep them close. Right. Um,
So I think they throw Krusha out there just so
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you think he's gonna do something. It's just like he's
always out there stretching her doing something. But he's a
great picture and and he's pitched in big situations. I
just I'm glad in that particular your as is pitching. Well,
you don't need another guy. By the way, when a
left handed batter comes up to bat and a left
handed pitcher pitches to them, isn't that analytics? How long
has that been going on in baseball? That's the quintessential
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thing in baseball is Hey, let's bring out a left
handed picture to pitch to a left handed batter. That's
an analytics because it's more chance he's gonna him out
because the opposite direct, it's it's a there's a little
it's a little deeper than that. But yes, that is
the lefty left Yes. Um again, I want to get
to the Dodgers, and we will, but I also want
to want to point this out, and this is really important.
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There's nothing cooler than Cody Bellinger left handed hitting a
home run. Okay, I mean like, like there's there's cool
things in sports. I had this discussion with my son. So,
my son, Hayes is eleven years old and he's really
struggling to overcome his fear of thrown baseballs at him, right,
and it just it comes and goes, and it's been
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really bad. Yesterday he didn't get a hit, but he
stayed in there. He popped one up and he hit
one hard back to the to the picture and we
were watching I think on Friday night, and he was like, wait,
pictures don't hit in the National League anymore. I was like, no, man,
university the age. He's like, I'm gonna keep pitching. This
is yeah right. I was like, yeah, but you like
playing first base, can't play first base, so you don't
hit he's like, so we hit Sunday morning, and then
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I coached basketball instead of watching his games thinking and
take some pressure off a little bit. Anyway, Like I
was telling him, like as good as it felt to
stay in there yes yesterday and even pop out. I
was like, look, if you stay in there and you
load up, you're gonna hitballs the left say, you're gonna
your first line drive the left center. You're gonna feel amazing,
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like one of the coolest feelings. And we're talking about
the cool feelings. It's like what's cooler? Like how cool
is it to dunk? So I've dunked only twice in
once in high school, once in college, once professionally, and
then you know in warm ups like all kinds of
dunks whatever, and then like pick up things, and I've
dunked a bunch and for whatever reason, I always get tight,
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Like there's this thing like if you miss a dunk,
you're coach can like who came? Like now I look back,
like why didn't I just go in and dunk I could?
It wasn't that close for me anyway. Dunking is a
cool feeling, but there's other cool feelings. Dropping an assist
when nobody saw coming. Or you know, hitting a three
uh is a is a great feeling. But I would
end I in football. And this happened when I was
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a little cat played football for like nine years a
little kid. When you get when you break through and
there's you and grass and nobody else in front of you, right,
and you can just hear your breath, you're right, you
can hear everybody cheering, and you're kind of looking around
and you know somebody's tracking you down, but you know
they're not gonna catch you. That's an incredible feeling, but
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I'm not sure that's the feeling like hitting a baseball
a no doubter. First, you're left handed. That's unfair because
left handers they just look cooler and smoother hitting a baseball,
shooting a jump shot, hitting a golf ball. Right, the lefties,
there's something cool about being a lefty. So Bellinger's left handed.
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Plus Bellinger's whole approach at the plate, where he's just
kind of standing there like is he ready? Is is
he ready? Like? And then all of a sudden, well
he was ready, you know, So you take to the
left handed, you take his approach to the plate, plus like,
let's be honest, Cody Bones is a good looking cat, right,
Like he's he's not slumming it on nights when he
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doesn't have games in Los Angeles. He's doing okay for
him stuff, I'm sure. So then he hits one that
is just from the second leaves his bat and then
he kind of stares it down and walks it down
a little bit, like I gotta think that's kind of
one of the coolest moments in all of sports, when
you hit a home run. All right, I'll get to
the Dodgers up coming in a second. I want to
start with this though. Um, it's interesting that Baker Mayfield
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gave the Browns hope. Right If you go back two
years ago, Baker Mayfield becomes the starting quarterback, they won
some games. I think they won seven games that year,
and Baker Mayfield and his persona and his belief in
himself and his ability to raise up teammates like he
gave them actual hope. But I think that that hope
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that he gave him he gave them allows them to
see how good they can be. And I do believe
that in order to be that good, Baker probably won't
be their quarterback if in fact they can get to
that next level. Does that make sense? I don't know
it made sense. I was driving around today and I
was thinking about Baker and strong to figure out exactly
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how to word what what I thought, like, I like
Baker Mayfield. I think guys like playing with Baker Mayfield.
But everyone has now seen the full Baker Mayfield, which
we saw it against George I remember in a college
football playoff. You see it at times in the NFL
level where he he wants to run around back there
like he's Russell Wilson, he's not. He wants to make
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throws like he's Bread Farv he's not. And part of
and this goes to why what I like about the Titans,
Like the Titans know exactly who they are and what
they are and why they are who they are and
what they are, and they're okay with it, Like, look,
we got some limitations and you know we're We're just
okay with it. I don't I don't know if Lamar
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can improve to this point, but I do feel like
there's a little of Lamar still wanting to break through
to be somebody that he's not. He's not an NFL
spread game quarterback. He's not a guy he has to be.
He has to run hit their offense, and that's kind
of it. It has limitations, So there's maybe this is
gonna limit Lamar as well, but he has such freakish
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athletic ability and arm strength that maybe he can improve
and overcome it. I just think there's some physical limitations
there and a mental and emotional limitation to go with it.
Where Baker gave them hope because of his faith in himself,
his belief in his ability to rise teammates up and
get them to a higher level. And he is a
competent quarterback when things are going well, but when under
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duress and he tries to win games on his own,
he doesn't have it. Just doesn't and that that's not
really you know, it's a knock on Baker, but it's
not an Ultimately, there's not a lot of dudes that
do have that extra ability. He's a little bit too small,
he has a little bit less arm strength than he should.
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He has a little bit less athleticism and he should.
Like look, he was evaluated properly um getting ready for
the draft before he had that unbelievable year at OHU
where he was supposed to be a third, fourth, maybe
even a fifth round draft pick based upon his ability.
But he walks into the room and you're like, man,
I believe in this cat, and I believe in myself.
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He has that feel. But there's just this limitation there
that we're kidding ourselves if we don't understand that it exists.
Not everybody can be a star quarterback just because they
think they can be a star quarterback and they studied
the star quarterback thing. I'll tell you it reminds me.
I have a friend who's a broadcaster. He's been doing
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it longer than I have, longer than I have. He
was a very good college basketball player. He's really good
at analyzing basketball. He has a terrible voice. He just
does not have It's it's not it. It's just really
hard to listen to for long stretches. And that's kind
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of one of the things that is a that people
have a predetermined bias against who have a terrible voice.
Even when you're doing television, you're not you know, we
don't see your face, we hear your voice. You can't
do it. And that's where I feel like he is
all right coming up next here on the Doug Gotlip Show,
Fox Sports Radio, the Dodgers moving into the World Series
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after battling back from a three one deficit. I'll tell
you what we learned about all sports that's up coming next.
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app Doug Gotlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. So we probably
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talk more baseball in the last hour and a half,
and we have all a year long. But I do
think and like it's my son and this funny kids
ask questions, right, like my daughter is. I have twin daughters.
They're fourteen years old. They both ride horses, one a
little bit higher level in terms of being competitive, but
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and and so within the world of equestrian they laugh
at me because they know everything and I know basically
what I've learned from watching them. Right. Um, So one
daughter's name is Harper. She's then Grace is now she's
like a mad scientist. She cooks and she's we gotta
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put put her in culinary school, like she's an amazing cook,
and so she knows everything about every ingredient. She knows
everything about any kind of cat and anything about anything
that kind of horse um, and starting to know a
lot about dogs as well. Like she just gets in
on on topics and researches them and then that's all
she does. And then she becomes if it's written in
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a book about a catch, she knows everything about it.
But they don't know anything about sports. And then my
son he knows some, but there's a certain naivetay to
his view and just kind of repeating things he's heard
as he's not really And you'll you'll notice this if
you have kids that are my kid's age. They don't
watch games as much on TV or nearly us at
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all in comparison to I felt like, how we they
have so many more options now, right Like when I
was a kid, we had one TV and sports R
on TV. We watched sports on TV. Or you go
outside and play, or you go and stare at your
wall in your room. You didn't have call waiting, and
then you didn't have call waiting. Your sister was always
on the phone, right, Like, there's limited things now they
can do whatever hell they want to do. So we've
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been watching a lot of sports here recently especially the
baseball And my son was like, why do they play
seven games series? Why DON'TY just get it done? And
I said, this is why, because you do want the
better teams to win. You don't want the flukey outcome.
And the Astros nearly came back and beat the Rays,
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but they didn't. The Braves had a three games to
one lead, but they could not close it out. Right,
So these these things, does it mean that the Dodgers
were better because they won last night? No, but this
is what generally happens in the NBA playoffs, which is
famous for the the better team wins. The better team wins,
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and that's what you want. You want your best you
want to put your best foot forward. You want your
best team to win. And that's what happened. Yes, Romos,
you're pressing a button like you wanted to talk. I
was not. I'm just waiting for some audio for you.
You mean audio to throw to you. You mean like
Cody Bellinger talking about on Fox about to come back
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with three three games in one league. I think when
you see every day, you see the lineup that we
have and we got Jock in a and CC hit nine, right,
we can do this why not, why can't we do this?
You know, we're only down two games. We want three
games before all the time. So we've been in this
situation before, and it was just it was we're grinding.
It was a team win. Atlanta Braves are an amazing team.
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It was not an easy series, and that was that
was fun right there. Well, like, look, part of it
is that a lot of those guys have been in
the playoffs before, right whereas you haven't been there. I'm
sure you get you get tighter. Part of it is
they've had success in the playoffs four maybe not in
the World Series, but they've had success in the playoffs before.
And I do think like, look, there's a certain confidence
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to the and we won, we were on pace to
win a hundred and sixteen games. Like we're really good.
Let's just settle down and be really good. So you
know when the world's moving really really fast and all
of a sudden it slows down for that moment and
you're like, oh, we're actually really good at what we do.
Let's get back, let's get locked in into it. So yeah,
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that's what I explained to my son. I was like, look,
you do a seven game series, so ultimately the better
tim hoping the better team wins. You know, do you
like it an upset like yeah, But if you want
to upset somebody, you're gonna have to prove it four times,
not just one time. It's different than the n c
A tournament. It's different than college football, you know, it's
just different. And I'm a proponent of longer series, even
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if it doesn't give us those cinderella stories like the
Miami Heat all all too often because it can backfire. Right,
the longer the series, if there's an injury, now the sudden,
the inferior the superior team becomes the inferior team, and
that mismatter, it's hard to adjust. Even if after the
adjustment you could ultimately be better than that another team
that that doesn't matter to me. Be sure to catch
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the live edition of the Doug gott Leap Show weekdays
at three p m. Easter noon Pacific. All right, let's
welcome in you hear him every Saturday, and he's gonna
be back in the Big Ten al right, covering the
Big Ten this week. He's the one and own Joel
klatt Uh Joe. Before we get to the big tent stuff,
your boy, Joe Davis called the home the Game seven
of the NLCS last night. Is there anything cooler than
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Cody Bellinger? One, he's left handed? You know how left
he's are? They just look better up there right. Plus
he's a good looking dude. He looks like he's not
even ready. And then he hits the ball that hasn't
landed yet and he does like nice little Cadillacs strut
down to first base. Is there a cooler moment in
sports than hitting that type of home run left handed
when you're Cody Bellinger? No, you bring up a great point.
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Let these do everything smoother and more cool than the
right handed counterparts in baseball. There's no doubt that bat flips.
Just think about it, right, And Doug, I know you're
a touch older than I am, but we grew up
watching Ken Griffey Jr. Right Like there was nothing cool, nothing,
nothing smoother at the plate taking BP with his hat
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back where it's like the dude was baseball. So that's
what it reminded me when he kind of just like
just I don't even know what it was, like a
stride out of the batteries box, and I was like, Oh,
that's a that's some Grippy Jr. Right there. That's a
great call. Riff, not nothing, No one cooler than Kangriff Jr.
Of course our boy Calherd. I didn't like it was
a hat backwards. Um uh okay. Do we learn more
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about Georgia or about Alabama? Um? Both? Can I say both?
And and here's why I'll say that. It is because
I think that that was an incredible game. It was
very evenly matched, and when it came down the crunch time,
there was a sequence of about I would call it
five minutes Doug where the game changed and it changed
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on on one thing. And I don't want to explain
it later in my show later in the week and
really dive into the film, but I'll give you guys
a sneak peek now that that is about experience and reps,
and and those are two things that you cannot fake, right,
You can't. You can't fake your way through experience and reps.
And the fact of the matter is is that you
have one of the teams out there with a quarterback
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who has started eight games as a four year player
in his program. Um, he's got twenty six games under
his belt, thrown to guys that are in their third
and fourth year in the program, like Jalen Waddle and
Davante Smith. So the reps that they've gotten over year,
year after year after year, regardless of COVID is immense, right,
Like they've thrown to each other hundreds of times, and
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all of these concepts. On the flip side, Georgia has
a quarterback that was a walk on them, was at
a junior college and then was an afterthought coming into
this season behind Jamie Newman who opted out, j T.
Daniels the injured USC transfer, and Dwon mathis the talented
freshman and and now he's thrust into a position where
he's throwing to some guys that he's got no reps
with Doug Jermaine Burton, by the way, he's from Calabasas
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right up in California, got out from under USC S
knows he's a true freshman, four star, number eight wide
receiver in the country. And Bennett and Burton were just
not on the same page in that five minutes, whereas
Mac Jones, Jan Waddle and Davante Smith were. I'll give
you a quick example when they were in the games.
Georgia in the third quarter, and and all of a sudden,
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their Alabama's backed up inside their own ten yard line. Right,
So you think to yourself, with a great defense like
Georgia has, they might be able to flip the field here,
get a short field for their quarterback and potentially build
on their lead. But no, no, Jalen Waddle takes a
little inside release, goes down the field, Mac Jones throws
a long ninety yard touchdown to him. Boom, all the sudden,
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Bama has the lead, and and it's one of those
timing throws. Trust throws down the field. Then all of
a sudden, Georgia comes out there. They're down by three.
Been it under throws what would have been a touchdown
to Jermaine Burton. Then later in that drive because they're
still on the field because of the underthrow, on third
down from the twenty five yard line, Burton has a
ball go right through his hands, which was perfectly thrown.
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It becomes an interception. It's tipped at the n i NT.
Bama goes down the field and all of a sudden,
it's thirty four twenty four. You come right back. Burton
gets overthrown on a wide open post right down the
middle of the field. Guess what happens. Bamma comes right back.
They throw a beautiful little fade to this lot and
it's DeVante Smith. So here you've got experience versus inexperience,
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and you take game and the span of about six minutes,
it becomes Joel Clatt joining us in the Doug Gotlip
Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Yeah. I mean it,
it's really telling how much I thought Mac jones Is
experience he got last year really helped him this year
like a blessing in disguise when two goes down with injury.
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He played in so many big games and and developed
so much. He's so much more comfortable now because of
what what happened then. Um, I gotta tell you, I'm
kind of quietly and I almost hate doing it because
I don't know. I'm just not a big tech SAY
and M guy. I'm just not like they've the hype
every year, as you know, back in the Big twelve,
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every year this is the year A and M is
better than Texas, and they've always been eight and five.
But winning this week was more impressive than winning last
week because usually now A and M usually loses those
big games at home, but they beat Florida, but then
to go and win another one that it is the
Jimbo thing. Is this thing gonna stick? Well? I will
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tell you that. You know, I've I've had a lot
of I don't know, conversations is the right word about
Texas A and M and and they're they're so fascinating
because those of us that have roots in the old
Big Eight or Big twelve and Big twelve specifically right
after the Old Southwest kind of disbanded and joined the
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Big Ad to become the Big twelve, what we know
of of Texas A and M is an underachieving program.
And I think that's what you're talking about, kind of
that perpetual eight and five team. And then that's kind
of what they were in the SEC and have been
in the SEC. But if you peek under the hood
a little bit, since Jimbo got there, basically they're losing
all of their games to the top five opponents. They
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kind of split with the top fifteen opponents, and then
they just bury everybody else. They're like, I think seventeen
and two against everybody else. Jimbo got there, So I
think a game like Florida was a huge turning point
for them, Doug because what they needed to do was
start winning those top end games. And once that happens,
I'm a big believer in the process of winning. Bobby
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Bowden talked about it a lot when he was a coach,
where sometimes you know, you need to lose big before
you lose small, before you win small, before you win big.
It's kind of the four stages of building a program. Now,
I'm not suggesting that they were ever at the lose
big stage, but but I am suggesting that when you're
looking at one sector of your opponents, as in like
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top five opponents, which are going to face a lot
and that division specifically, you're probably gonna lose big before
you lose small, before you win small, before you ever
win big. And maybe they're on that trajectory. And that
Florida when I thought was big for them because it
put them on that trajectory, but only if you can
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take care of business elsewhere, and then Mississippi State rolls
in and you don't want to let down and have
you know, Mississippi State get loose like they did against
l s U. In particular against the defense that people
lamented was was not all that strong against Florida and
Kyle Trask the week before. So I thought that was
a big step for them to continue the quality progression
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of win a game that people wanted you to win
and we're desperate for you to win, and then you
continue to win games that you should because too many
times we've seen in college football it's one giant step
forward and then two steps back. But A and M
avoided that pitfall. All right, So you got Nebraska, Ohio State.
I want talk about to State in the second. But
Nebraska is interesting because look, they got a murders Rose
schedule and this is this is year three for Scott Frost,
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Scott Adrian Martinez back. But but he's like, this is
the sentence. I hate. What feels like we have two
first string quarterbacks with Luke McCaffrey, who was another McCaffrey
coming in, Like, I don't know, I don't know how
that works. What are we going to see from Nebraska offensively?
Oh gosh, that's a that's a great question. I'm I'm wondering.
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I'm right when you're called. I literally have my iPad
up and I'm watching, you know, the last couple of years.
How do you how do I like, how do I
don't like? How does how does the how to stay
prep for? They have no I they literally don't. I mean,
we think we know who the quarterback is, but there's
no spring tape, right and he didn't play much at
the end of the year because he was hurt. Like,
how do you prep with all this? Not only that,
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but but normally you get it's in particular with the team,
and you know this being from you know, like we said,
we keep saying, like the old big AIG, Big twelve.
No college program in the Midwest is covered more extensively
by their by their own media than Nebraska. Would you
agree with that? Like there are so many outlets. People
have no idea how heavily Nebraska football is covered in Nebraska.
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There are so many outlets. So the reason I say
that is because if you did have a normal spring
football there is a really good chance that there would
be at least some leaks, whether it's a public scrimmage,
whether it's the media you know, talking with players and
getting some sense of what's going on. So Ohio State
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would have at least a sense of what to potentially
prep for. But the fact that there's no spring football,
like you alluded to, I honestly believe that Ohio State
is just going to have to sit there and and
prep on what they saw for a lot from last
year with with Martinez at quarterback, and then just think
about playing their base defense, because they do have the
requisite players to play bass defense and should be successful
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against Nebraska. But I think you could also say this
and let me spend it forward if you don't mind.
Nebraska is looking at Ohio States defense and thinking of themselves,
what are we going to see? Because remember Jeff Happley,
the defensive coordinator, moved on to Boston College. Now it's
Carry Combs was a long time Ohio State assistant. He
was with Mike Rabel with the Tennessee Titans a year ago.
Now he's back as the defensive coordinator. But the reason
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I say that is that Ohio State system changed dramatically
last year to fit at the players that they had.
They had those two first round corners, they had a
six round safety and Jordan Fuller. They also had Shawn Wade,
so they played dug with three corners and one safety
on the field at all times. Very unique style and
structure of defense. I don't think that they can play
that this year. So what structure are you preparing for?
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If you're in Nebraska. This is a fascinating week to
be calling, in particular late in October as an analyst,
because I'm sitting there, I'm honestly telling you I am
trying to prepare for and expecting almost anything from a
structural standpoint of these offenses and defenses. All right, well,
we do know you're gonna have justin Fields quarterback, right,
and he's really really good. Now what what strikes me
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as interesting? And he's obviously not he's not Lamar as
a runner, but he is a very good athlete. But
if we look back to when guys have that one
kind of last season, um, I think the perfect example
is DeShawn Watson. Deshaun Watson last year at Clemson. During
the regular season, he tried to show and develop more
of a pocket pastor he didn't tuck it and run it.
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And then when they got to the playoff, now he
just played right if if if whatever the play determined,
do you think we'll see that more from justin Fields
where he tries to refine his his quarterback acumen and
stick more to the pocket in an effort to prepare
for the next level during the regular season. It's it's
so funny you and I was just talking with some
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of my crew members about this very subject, and I'll
tell you exactly what I what I told them. You know,
what's fascinating is that last year, Justin stayed in the
pocket a tremendous amount of time, you know, and and
the reason being not just to quote unquote and developed
from the pocket, the reason being they had no depth
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behind him. That was the entire story of the Ohio
State season last year, was that if if Justin Fields
went down, and the whole thing was was a mood point,
like they were a great team because he was their
quarterback to a large extent, and without the depth behind him,
they did not expose him in the running game until
Doug it came up like games against Wisconsin and Penn
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State and then a little bit in the Big Ten
Championship game and then against Clemson. So they were only
revealing that aspect of their offense, which certainly is there
in the times in which they needed it. And I
think the same will be true this year. Um not
only will they continue to develop him from the pocket,
which he did beautifully last year, but they don't want
to expose him to some of those hits and get
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him banged up when clearly he's their best player and
has the potential to win a Heisman Trophy this year.
But but I will tell you I saw him before
last season in the spring, so a couple of springs
ago and standing with Ryan Day on the sideline and
and Doug each of us. I looked at him and
I was like, listen, he's really talented, but he's really raw.
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And Ryan said, I know, I know, and we're gonna
have to, you know, develop him as as a thrower.
And they did that so well. Um, now their quarterback
coach left, Mike Yersich left and is now the coordinator
at the University of Texas with Sam Ellinger, and Urban
Meyer's son in law is now the quarterback coach at
Ohio State. But I will tell you that I thought
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Ryan Day developed and Mike Garsitch developed justin fields from
the pocket as well as anyone had over the course
of last season to the point where he was deadly
from the pocket. And even the interception that he threw
to to finish the season that was a clear mistake
by Cristal Lave the wide receiver who broke off his
route rather than going to the post. But field is
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Is is a deadly passer from the pocket, which is
what makes him Doug such a an enticing prospect along
with Trevor Lawrence. For the NFL. UM you mentioned Trevor Lawrence,
and they looked dominant. Ever, Alabama look dominant. Um of
the expectations are fair unfair. I mean, I know they
got Penn State after playing Nebraska, but Ohio State will
be that third team. If you had to guess on
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a fourth team right now, who would it be. I
would be pretty surprised if it's not Georgia, even with
that loss, and even if they were to lose again
to Alabama. And obviously there's a lot of there's a
lot of football to be played, and I think Notre
Dame fans would be frustrated with that. But Notre Dames
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just seems inconsistent at times. I mean, they've got to
take care of Louisville to to a much greater degree
than they were able to last year, and I just
don't see it. Out of other teams. We were not
seeing that jump. Florida already lost they're clearly not ready defensively,
and I don't think A and M is ready because
of their game against Alabama earlier this year. So I
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think it's I think it's Georgia. If I was a
betting man, it would be Clemson, Alabama, Ohio State in Georgia.
All Right, we'll see. Obviously you're very very popular in
South in Indiana at this particular moment. Uh. In the meantime,
State travels, State travels to Columbus and welcome back, Welcome
back to Big ten football, and it will be a lot,
a lot of fun. Thanks so much for joining us.
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All Right. It's the one and only Joel Clatt who
pointed out these younger than me. Thanks Joel, appreciate that. Now.
I used to be the youngest, I like, always younger
than everybody i'm interview. Now I'm like, yeah, I'm actually
not younger than Joel. That kind of sucks. All right,
I got a bunch of man, I got a lot
on my plate here. Colin Cowherd loves what he's seen
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what do the Fox Say? This was called and coward?
But what he saw? Carson Wentz and there lost the
Raven yesterday. There are moments when a quarterback can win
any stinks, and there are moments when a quarterback loses
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and he's unbelievable. If you don't get Carson Wentz at
this point, I'm out. I'm done with you. This kid's incredible.
I went and looked this morning. The Eagles have had
We're just starting the season. We're not even close to Thanksgiving.
Seventeen offensive players have missed games, including four of the
five offensive lineman didn't have Lane Johnson yesterday. His record
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won't show it, his stats won't show it. He was unbelievable. Yesterday.
He's the anti Aaron Rodgers. He's all guts, he's all fight.
So he had his He was missing his three best
receivers yesterday and his best offensive lineman. They got down
big to Baltimore. Baltimore was heavily favorite. Baltimore was rolling them.
He then loses his best tight ends, Accurates, and his
best running back, Miles Sanders, and they come back and
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they fight, and if not for a lousy two point
called by Doug Peterson, they maybe tie the football game
Eagle receiving it could have been. They should have won
by a touchdown. Eagle receivers were dropping touchdowns, they were
dropping open stuff in the flap. He had nothing to
work with. I couldn't agree more. I like to come
on and say that Colin said this, and I disagree,
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and I couldn't agree more. And I saw Max Kellerman
getting an argument with the Dan Orlovski about a play
here or a play there that he made, Like, are
we watching the same football? You clearly did not watch
the game. You want to be hot take, dude, if
you want to be critical of Carson today, were they
terrible in the first half? Yes, I was watching and
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I'm watching a bunch of games, and he just it
was late in the first half. He had three yards
passing three Like, dude, this is bad, bad, But you know,
let they win in the locker room and they fix
some things and talk some things out. And he made
plays with no offensive line to protect him, without his
star running back, you know, and he's just dealing back there.
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And the Ravens are a good football team to I
think the Ravens have a couple more flaws maybe than
other sure, but everyone concludes like the Ravens are a
good football team with a good defense and the way
in which they're designed like everybody, but especially to get
a lead and to stay ahead. Then they get a
lead and then they can just pressure you, pressure you,
pressure you, pressure you with exotics, and then run the
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football and grind out a game. They never lose games
where they have a lead. A matter of fact, Lamar
Jackson has never lost a game that he had a
lead at the half. And yesterday should have at least
gone overtime. They're down to you know, terrible two point
conversion play and they end up losing. But I was
I'm with Colin. We can take shots at some of
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the things once has done previously. And I understand this
desire to play hero ball when you don't have your
regular group of assets. You're but he's I thought he
played big time football in the second half of yesterday's game,
And like what we do this thing? We're quarterback only
goods credit when they win, Like okay, well, Dac used
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to get credit when they'd win and he didn't play well.
Now we don't give him blame when they lose and
he does play well, Like I don't. I like congruent arguments.
Ones that work kind of together, those ones don't work together.
Um buyer, um along kind of some of those similar lines.
As we're getting ready for the Tennessee Buffalo govern that
Tennessee the Buffalo Buffalo play well, oh Buffalo, Kansas City.
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This is a big time game. Um Can I go ahead?
Can I quick way in on Eagles Ravens as well?
And I agree with you, like I thought, Carson Wentz
was magnificent in the in the second half, at least
drastically better than maybe what we had seen prior the
Jalen Hurts aspect. Yesterday was the first time that I
felt that he helped like it was a distraction. Maybe
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in the other weeks when you were trying to put
Jalen Hurts in and you're feeling like you're just struggling
to find anything, But yesterday seemed like the first day
where this is like, okay, this is a positive and
maybe not being forced in ending up being a negative
for us. And then they had injuries. I mean, you know,
zach Ertz went down with his ankle injury. Miles Sanders
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was hurt on the long run, which a lot of
people credited Jalen Hurts his motion on that play for
a reason for it. But I thought that was also
different for the Eagles. But in the end, to your
point about Wentz without those weapons, he had to step
up in the second half to come back and he did. Um. Look,
I think as long as I don't mind the Jalen
Hurts thing, as long as you understand he's not at
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this point in his career and maybe never in his career,
going to be a starting caliber quarterback like there is.
He is a long way from being used. He was
drafted a little bit too high because they really liked him,
but he's as long as people understand that they don't
even view him really as the backup quarterback. They view
him as a bit of a guy who they can
use as a kind of a gadget guy, right, yeah, yeah.
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I I sometimes think that the Eagles try to they're
too smart for themselves. And that's where I thought, like
where jail and Hurts was being used in those instances,
and that gave him just the offense of all the motion,
all the different things that they do, and it's like,
you guys can't even just slide up and run the
football or drop back and throw the football. And I
thought that that was actually different this time around. Uh,
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but you're right, yeah, he's not gonna take over the
starting job. No, but I heard people like, oh, you
might as well be put Jale Hurts And they're like, no,
he can't play. He's not a not an NFL quarterback.
Maybe eventually maybe they're not even he's not. The reps
he gets are not in true, they're trying to use
him in all of these different trying to get some
value out of him wide receiver, slot guy, running back, quarterback.
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He can throw, Like just because you can play quarterback
for a couple of plays, does not a quarterback make right?
And then and they don't have any expectations of that.
But what happens is when your starter is making a
huge amount of money struggles, then all of a sudden
you're like, well, let's go to the backup the young guy.
He's got it. Let's give him a shot. Like now,
we're not there right now, yes, which is what they
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drafted him for. They draft him because they had a
little tasting hill and being there, they really really need
an offensive lineman. God Ryan Howard joins the show. Coming next,
What does he think about the Dodgers come back and
who should be their clothes are heading forward? That's the
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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. What a Duck Got
Leave Show? Fuck Sports Radio? Man. I love some postseason baseball,
don't you? Ramos loved every minute of it? Did you?
Did you lose faith at any time? Was there ever
a moment where you're like, oh, we're gonna lose this game? Uh?
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Not yesterday? No, yesterday. I figure, if you're down three
games to one and it's to nothing, I knew to
nothing wasn't gonna be enough to win that game. Not
with a bullpen, not not with Andrewson in trouble in
the first, second and third ending. I knew. I knew
that was gonna be Uh. I mean, three to two,
it's still a little score, but I knew that that
wasn't going to be the The Dodgers were going to
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score runs. Did you know they were gonna leave? U?
You raised in there. Uh, well, Jansen had pitched the
last two nights, so I figured if they put him
in that would be not good because he's had a
troubled season and that's the last thing I need to
do is have him pitched three games in a row.
So it was a great movie. Look I put up
on Twitter yesterday all the crap talk that Dave Roberts
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get do you think that? Kiki here and and just
just grabbed a bat and said, Hey, I'm gonna go
back for Jack Peterson, see you guys later, Like that's
what Dave Roberts jet. He said, you go pin jet
Like he's a manager, that's what he does. And the
guy it's a home run. Like nobody talks about that.
They always talking about like how bad he did when
things or things go right, it was the computer when
things go wrong, analytics and it was it was analysts'
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does help, Like, of course it does. Part of it
is I think a lot of people don't understand. How
it's been explained to me, is like, yeah, there's analytics department. Yes,
they helped make some decisions without like no decision, But
at the end of the day, it is in fact
the manager's call and they do go, and they wouldn't
have taken the job unless they knew, like this is
the way we're gonna do things. And they work through things,
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and you know, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't work.
I'm happy they didn't throw Kershaw out there the night, right, Like,
the last thing I want is your pitching. Well, he's
left handed, so you have the ability if you give
up a runner on first Patre as they did, you
gotta runner, got ability to keep them close. Right. Um,
So I think they throw Krusha out there just so
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you think he's gonna do something. It's just like he's
always out there stretching her doing something. But he's a
great picture and and he's pitched in big situations. I
just I'm glad in that particular your as is pitching. Well,
you don't need another guy. By the way, when a
left handed batter comes up to bat and a left
handed pitcher pitches to them, isn't that analytics? How long
has that been going on in baseball? That's the quintessential
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thing in baseball is Hey, let's bring out a left
handed picture to pitch to a left handed batter. That's
an analytics because it's more chance he's gonna him out
because the opposite direct, it's it's a there's a little
it's a little deeper than that. But yes, that is
the lefty left Yes. Um again, I want to get
to the Dodgers, and we will, but I also want
to want to point this out, and this is really important.
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There's nothing cooler than Cody Bellinger left handed hitting a
home run. Okay, I mean like, like there's there's cool
things in sports. I had this discussion with my son. So,
my son, Hayes is eleven years old and he's really
struggling to overcome his fear of thrown baseballs at him, right,
and it just it comes and goes, and it's been
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really bad. Yesterday he didn't get a hit, but he
stayed in there. He popped one up and he hit
one hard back to the to the picture and we
were watching I think on Friday night, and he was like, wait,
pictures don't hit in the National League anymore. I was like, no, man,
university the age. He's like, I'm gonna keep pitching. This
is yeah right. I was like, yeah, but you like
playing first base, can't play first base, so you don't
hit he's like, so we hit Sunday morning, and then
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I coached basketball instead of watching his games thinking and
take some pressure off a little bit. Anyway, Like I
was telling him, like as good as it felt to
stay in there yes yesterday and even pop out. I
was like, look, if you stay in there and you
load up, you're gonna hitballs the left say, you're gonna
your first line drive the left center. You're gonna feel amazing,
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like one of the coolest feelings. And we're talking about
the cool feelings. It's like what's cooler? Like how cool
is it to dunk? So I've dunked only twice in
once in high school, once in college, once professionally, and
then you know in warm ups like all kinds of
dunks whatever, and then like pick up things, and I've
dunked a bunch and for whatever reason, I always get tight,
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Like there's this thing like if you miss a dunk,
you're coach can like who came? Like now I look back,
like why didn't I just go in and dunk I could?
It wasn't that close for me anyway. Dunking is a
cool feeling, but there's other cool feelings. Dropping an assist
when nobody saw coming. Or you know, hitting a three
uh is a is a great feeling. But I would
end I in football. And this happened when I was
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a little cat played football for like nine years a
little kid. When you get when you break through and
there's you and grass and nobody else in front of you, right,
and you can just hear your breath, you're right, you
can hear everybody cheering, and you're kind of looking around
and you know somebody's tracking you down, but you know
they're not gonna catch you. That's an incredible feeling, but
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I'm not sure that's the feeling like hitting a baseball
a no doubter. First, you're left handed. That's unfair because
left handers they just look cooler and smoother hitting a baseball,
shooting a jump shot, hitting a golf ball. Right, the lefties,
there's something cool about being a lefty. So Bellinger's left handed.
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Plus Bellinger's whole approach at the plate, where he's just
kind of standing there like is he ready? Is is
he ready? Like? And then all of a sudden, well
he was ready, you know, So you take to the
left handed, you take his approach to the plate, plus like,
let's be honest, Cody Bones is a good looking cat, right,
Like he's he's not slumming it on nights when he
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doesn't have games in Los Angeles. He's doing okay for
him stuff, I'm sure. So then he hits one that
is just from the second leaves his bat and then
he kind of stares it down and walks it down
a little bit, like I gotta think that's kind of
one of the coolest moments in all of sports, when
you hit a home run. All right, I'll get to
the Dodgers up coming in a second. I want to
start with this though. Um, it's interesting that Baker Mayfield
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gave the Browns hope. Right If you go back two
years ago, Baker Mayfield becomes the starting quarterback, they won
some games. I think they won seven games that year,
and Baker Mayfield and his persona and his belief in
himself and his ability to raise up teammates like he
gave them actual hope. But I think that that hope
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that he gave him he gave them allows them to
see how good they can be. And I do believe
that in order to be that good, Baker probably won't
be their quarterback if in fact they can get to
that next level. Does that make sense? I don't know
it made sense. I was driving around today and I
was thinking about Baker and strong to figure out exactly
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how to word what what I thought, like, I like
Baker Mayfield. I think guys like playing with Baker Mayfield.
But everyone has now seen the full Baker Mayfield, which
we saw it against George I remember in a college
football playoff. You see it at times in the NFL
level where he he wants to run around back there
like he's Russell Wilson, he's not. He wants to make
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throws like he's Bread Farv he's not. And part of
and this goes to why what I like about the Titans,
Like the Titans know exactly who they are and what
they are and why they are who they are and
what they are, and they're okay with it, Like, look,
we got some limitations and you know we're We're just
okay with it. I don't I don't know if Lamar
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can improve to this point, but I do feel like
there's a little of Lamar still wanting to break through
to be somebody that he's not. He's not an NFL
spread game quarterback. He's not a guy he has to be.
He has to run hit their offense, and that's kind
of it. It has limitations, So there's maybe this is
gonna limit Lamar as well, but he has such freakish
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athletic ability and arm strength that maybe he can improve
and overcome it. I just think there's some physical limitations
there and a mental and emotional limitation to go with it.
Where Baker gave them hope because of his faith in himself,
his belief in his ability to rise teammates up and
get them to a higher level. And he is a
competent quarterback when things are going well, but when under
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duress and he tries to win games on his own,
he doesn't have it. Just doesn't and that that's not
really you know, it's a knock on Baker, but it's
not an Ultimately, there's not a lot of dudes that
do have that extra ability. He's a little bit too small,
he has a little bit less arm strength than he should.
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He has a little bit less athleticism and he should.
Like look, he was evaluated properly um getting ready for
the draft before he had that unbelievable year at OHU
where he was supposed to be a third, fourth, maybe
even a fifth round draft pick based upon his ability.
But he walks into the room and you're like, man,
I believe in this cat, and I believe in myself.
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He has that feel. But there's just this limitation there
that we're kidding ourselves if we don't understand that it exists.
Not everybody can be a star quarterback just because they
think they can be a star quarterback and they studied
the star quarterback thing. I'll tell you it reminds me.
I have a friend who's a broadcaster. He's been doing
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it longer than I have, longer than I have. He
was a very good college basketball player. He's really good
at analyzing basketball. He has a terrible voice. He just
does not have It's it's not it. It's just really
hard to listen to for long stretches. And that's kind
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of one of the things that is a that people
have a predetermined bias against who have a terrible voice.
Even when you're doing television, you're not you know, we
don't see your face, we hear your voice. You can't
do it. And that's where I feel like he is
all right coming up next here on the Doug Gotlip Show,
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app Doug Gotlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. So we probably
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talk more baseball in the last hour and a half,
and we have all a year long. But I do
think and like it's my son and this funny kids
ask questions, right, like my daughter is. I have twin daughters.
They're fourteen years old. They both ride horses, one a
little bit higher level in terms of being competitive, but
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and and so within the world of equestrian they laugh
at me because they know everything and I know basically
what I've learned from watching them. Right. Um, So one
daughter's name is Harper. She's then Grace is now she's
like a mad scientist. She cooks and she's we gotta
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put put her in culinary school, like she's an amazing cook,
and so she knows everything about every ingredient. She knows
everything about any kind of cat and anything about anything
that kind of horse um, and starting to know a
lot about dogs as well. Like she just gets in
on on topics and researches them and then that's all
she does. And then she becomes if it's written in
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a book about a catch, she knows everything about it.
But they don't know anything about sports. And then my
son he knows some, but there's a certain naivetay to
his view and just kind of repeating things he's heard
as he's not really And you'll you'll notice this if
you have kids that are my kid's age. They don't
watch games as much on TV or nearly us at
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all in comparison to I felt like, how we they
have so many more options now, right Like when I
was a kid, we had one TV and sports R
on TV. We watched sports on TV. Or you go
outside and play, or you go and stare at your
wall in your room. You didn't have call waiting, and
then you didn't have call waiting. Your sister was always
on the phone, right, Like, there's limited things now they
can do whatever hell they want to do. So we've
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been watching a lot of sports here recently especially the
baseball And my son was like, why do they play
seven games series? Why DON'TY just get it done? And
I said, this is why, because you do want the
better teams to win. You don't want the flukey outcome.
And the Astros nearly came back and beat the Rays,
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but they didn't. The Braves had a three games to
one lead, but they could not close it out. Right,
So these these things, does it mean that the Dodgers
were better because they won last night? No, but this
is what generally happens in the NBA playoffs, which is
famous for the the better team wins. The better team wins,
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and that's what you want. You want your best you
want to put your best foot forward. You want your
best team to win. And that's what happened. Yes, Romos,
you're pressing a button like you wanted to talk. I
was not. I'm just waiting for some audio for you.
You mean audio to throw to you. You mean like
Cody Bellinger talking about on Fox about to come back
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with three three games in one league. I think when
you see every day, you see the lineup that we
have and we got Jock in a and CC hit nine, right,
we can do this why not, why can't we do this?
You know, we're only down two games. We want three
games before all the time. So we've been in this
situation before, and it was just it was we're grinding.
It was a team win. Atlanta Braves are an amazing team.
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It was not an easy series, and that was that
was fun right there. Well, like, look, part of it
is that a lot of those guys have been in
the playoffs before, right whereas you haven't been there. I'm
sure you get you get tighter. Part of it is
they've had success in the playoffs four maybe not in
the World Series, but they've had success in the playoffs before.
And I do think like, look, there's a certain confidence
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to the and we won, we were on pace to
win a hundred and sixteen games. Like we're really good.
Let's just settle down and be really good. So you
know when the world's moving really really fast and all
of a sudden it slows down for that moment and
you're like, oh, we're actually really good at what we do.
Let's get back, let's get locked in into it. So yeah,
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that's what I explained to my son. I was like, look,
you do a seven game series, so ultimately the better
tim hoping the better team wins. You know, do you
like it an upset like yeah, But if you want
to upset somebody, you're gonna have to prove it four times,
not just one time. It's different than the n c
A tournament. It's different than college football, you know, it's
just different. And I'm a proponent of longer series, even
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if it doesn't give us those cinderella stories like the
Miami Heat all all too often because it can backfire. Right,
the longer the series, if there's an injury, now the sudden,
the inferior the superior team becomes the inferior team, and
that mismatter, it's hard to adjust. Even if after the
adjustment you could ultimately be better than that another team
that that doesn't matter to me. Be sure to catch
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welcome in you hear him every Saturday, and he's gonna
be back in the Big Ten al right, covering the
Big Ten this week. He's the one and own Joel
klatt Uh Joe. Before we get to the big tent stuff,
your boy, Joe Davis called the home the Game seven
of the NLCS last night. Is there anything cooler than
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Cody Bellinger? One, he's left handed? You know how left
he's are? They just look better up there right. Plus
he's a good looking dude. He looks like he's not
even ready. And then he hits the ball that hasn't
landed yet and he does like nice little Cadillacs strut
down to first base. Is there a cooler moment in
sports than hitting that type of home run left handed
when you're Cody Bellinger? No, you bring up a great point.
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Let these do everything smoother and more cool than the
right handed counterparts in baseball. There's no doubt that bat flips.
Just think about it, right, And Doug, I know you're
a touch older than I am, but we grew up
watching Ken Griffey Jr. Right Like there was nothing cool, nothing,
nothing smoother at the plate taking BP with his hat
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back where it's like the dude was baseball. So that's
what it reminded me when he kind of just like
just I don't even know what it was, like a
stride out of the batteries box, and I was like, Oh,
that's a that's some Grippy Jr. Right there. That's a
great call. Riff, not nothing, No one cooler than Kangriff Jr.
Of course our boy Calherd. I didn't like it was
a hat backwards. Um uh okay. Do we learn more
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about Georgia or about Alabama? Um? Both? Can I say both?
And and here's why I'll say that. It is because
I think that that was an incredible game. It was
very evenly matched, and when it came down the crunch time,
there was a sequence of about I would call it
five minutes Doug where the game changed and it changed
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on on one thing. And I don't want to explain
it later in my show later in the week and
really dive into the film, but I'll give you guys
a sneak peek now that that is about experience and reps,
and and those are two things that you cannot fake, right,
You can't. You can't fake your way through experience and reps.
And the fact of the matter is is that you
have one of the teams out there with a quarterback
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who has started eight games as a four year player
in his program. Um, he's got twenty six games under
his belt, thrown to guys that are in their third
and fourth year in the program, like Jalen Waddle and
Davante Smith. So the reps that they've gotten over year,
year after year after year, regardless of COVID is immense, right,
Like they've thrown to each other hundreds of times, and
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all of these concepts. On the flip side, Georgia has
a quarterback that was a walk on them, was at
a junior college and then was an afterthought coming into
this season behind Jamie Newman who opted out, j T.
Daniels the injured USC transfer, and Dwon mathis the talented
freshman and and now he's thrust into a position where
he's throwing to some guys that he's got no reps
with Doug Jermaine Burton, by the way, he's from Calabasas
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right up in California, got out from under USC S
knows he's a true freshman, four star, number eight wide
receiver in the country. And Bennett and Burton were just
not on the same page in that five minutes, whereas
Mac Jones, Jan Waddle and Davante Smith were. I'll give
you a quick example when they were in the games.
Georgia in the third quarter, and and all of a sudden,
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their Alabama's backed up inside their own ten yard line. Right,
So you think to yourself, with a great defense like
Georgia has, they might be able to flip the field here,
get a short field for their quarterback and potentially build
on their lead. But no, no, Jalen Waddle takes a
little inside release, goes down the field, Mac Jones throws
a long ninety yard touchdown to him. Boom, all the sudden,
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Bama has the lead, and and it's one of those
timing throws. Trust throws down the field. Then all of
a sudden, Georgia comes out there. They're down by three.
Been it under throws what would have been a touchdown
to Jermaine Burton. Then later in that drive because they're
still on the field because of the underthrow, on third
down from the twenty five yard line, Burton has a
ball go right through his hands, which was perfectly thrown.
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It becomes an interception. It's tipped at the n i NT.
Bama goes down the field and all of a sudden,
it's thirty four twenty four. You come right back. Burton
gets overthrown on a wide open post right down the
middle of the field. Guess what happens. Bamma comes right back.
They throw a beautiful little fade to this lot and
it's DeVante Smith. So here you've got experience versus inexperience,
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and you take game and the span of about six minutes,
it becomes Joel Clatt joining us in the Doug Gotlip
Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Yeah. I mean it,
it's really telling how much I thought Mac jones Is
experience he got last year really helped him this year
like a blessing in disguise when two goes down with injury.
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He played in so many big games and and developed
so much. He's so much more comfortable now because of
what what happened then. Um, I gotta tell you, I'm
kind of quietly and I almost hate doing it because
I don't know. I'm just not a big tech SAY
and M guy. I'm just not like they've the hype
every year, as you know, back in the Big twelve,
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every year this is the year A and M is
better than Texas, and they've always been eight and five.
But winning this week was more impressive than winning last
week because usually now A and M usually loses those
big games at home, but they beat Florida, but then
to go and win another one that it is the
Jimbo thing. Is this thing gonna stick? Well? I will
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tell you that. You know, I've I've had a lot
of I don't know, conversations is the right word about
Texas A and M and and they're they're so fascinating
because those of us that have roots in the old
Big Eight or Big twelve and Big twelve specifically right
after the Old Southwest kind of disbanded and joined the
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Big Ad to become the Big twelve, what we know
of of Texas A and M is an underachieving program.
And I think that's what you're talking about, kind of
that perpetual eight and five team. And then that's kind
of what they were in the SEC and have been
in the SEC. But if you peek under the hood
a little bit, since Jimbo got there, basically they're losing
all of their games to the top five opponents. They
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kind of split with the top fifteen opponents, and then
they just bury everybody else. They're like, I think seventeen
and two against everybody else. Jimbo got there, So I
think a game like Florida was a huge turning point
for them, Doug because what they needed to do was
start winning those top end games. And once that happens,
I'm a big believer in the process of winning. Bobby
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Bowden talked about it a lot when he was a coach,
where sometimes you know, you need to lose big before
you lose small, before you win small, before you win big.
It's kind of the four stages of building a program. Now,
I'm not suggesting that they were ever at the lose
big stage, but but I am suggesting that when you're
looking at one sector of your opponents, as in like
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top five opponents, which are going to face a lot
and that division specifically, you're probably gonna lose big before
you lose small, before you win small, before you ever
win big. And maybe they're on that trajectory. And that
Florida when I thought was big for them because it
put them on that trajectory, but only if you can
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take care of business elsewhere, and then Mississippi State rolls
in and you don't want to let down and have
you know, Mississippi State get loose like they did against
l s U. In particular against the defense that people
lamented was was not all that strong against Florida and
Kyle Trask the week before. So I thought that was
a big step for them to continue the quality progression
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of win a game that people wanted you to win
and we're desperate for you to win, and then you
continue to win games that you should because too many
times we've seen in college football it's one giant step
forward and then two steps back. But A and M
avoided that pitfall. All right, So you got Nebraska, Ohio State.
I want talk about to State in the second. But
Nebraska is interesting because look, they got a murders Rose
schedule and this is this is year three for Scott Frost,
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Scott Adrian Martinez back. But but he's like, this is
the sentence. I hate. What feels like we have two
first string quarterbacks with Luke McCaffrey, who was another McCaffrey
coming in, Like, I don't know, I don't know how
that works. What are we going to see from Nebraska offensively?
Oh gosh, that's a that's a great question. I'm I'm wondering.
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I'm right when you're called. I literally have my iPad
up and I'm watching, you know, the last couple of years.
How do you how do I like, how do I
don't like? How does how does the how to stay
prep for? They have no I they literally don't. I mean,
we think we know who the quarterback is, but there's
no spring tape, right and he didn't play much at
the end of the year because he was hurt. Like,
how do you prep with all this? Not only that,
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but but normally you get it's in particular with the team,
and you know this being from you know, like we said,
we keep saying, like the old big AIG, Big twelve.
No college program in the Midwest is covered more extensively
by their by their own media than Nebraska. Would you
agree with that? Like there are so many outlets. People
have no idea how heavily Nebraska football is covered in Nebraska.
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There are so many outlets. So the reason I say
that is because if you did have a normal spring
football there is a really good chance that there would
be at least some leaks, whether it's a public scrimmage,
whether it's the media you know, talking with players and
getting some sense of what's going on. So Ohio State
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would have at least a sense of what to potentially
prep for. But the fact that there's no spring football,
like you alluded to, I honestly believe that Ohio State
is just going to have to sit there and and
prep on what they saw for a lot from last
year with with Martinez at quarterback, and then just think
about playing their base defense, because they do have the
requisite players to play bass defense and should be successful
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against Nebraska. But I think you could also say this
and let me spend it forward if you don't mind.
Nebraska is looking at Ohio States defense and thinking of themselves,
what are we going to see? Because remember Jeff Happley,
the defensive coordinator, moved on to Boston College. Now it's
Carry Combs was a long time Ohio State assistant. He
was with Mike Rabel with the Tennessee Titans a year ago.
Now he's back as the defensive coordinator. But the reason
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I say that is that Ohio State system changed dramatically
last year to fit at the players that they had.
They had those two first round corners, they had a
six round safety and Jordan Fuller. They also had Shawn Wade,
so they played dug with three corners and one safety
on the field at all times. Very unique style and
structure of defense. I don't think that they can play
that this year. So what structure are you preparing for?
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If you're in Nebraska. This is a fascinating week to
be calling, in particular late in October as an analyst,
because I'm sitting there, I'm honestly telling you I am
trying to prepare for and expecting almost anything from a
structural standpoint of these offenses and defenses. All right, well,
we do know you're gonna have justin Fields quarterback, right,
and he's really really good. Now what what strikes me
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as interesting? And he's obviously not he's not Lamar as
a runner, but he is a very good athlete. But
if we look back to when guys have that one
kind of last season, um, I think the perfect example
is DeShawn Watson. Deshaun Watson last year at Clemson. During
the regular season, he tried to show and develop more
of a pocket pastor he didn't tuck it and run it.
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And then when they got to the playoff, now he
just played right if if if whatever the play determined,
do you think we'll see that more from justin Fields
where he tries to refine his his quarterback acumen and
stick more to the pocket in an effort to prepare
for the next level during the regular season. It's it's
so funny you and I was just talking with some
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of my crew members about this very subject, and I'll
tell you exactly what I what I told them. You know,
what's fascinating is that last year, Justin stayed in the
pocket a tremendous amount of time, you know, and and
the reason being not just to quote unquote and developed
from the pocket, the reason being they had no depth
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behind him. That was the entire story of the Ohio
State season last year, was that if if Justin Fields
went down, and the whole thing was was a mood point,
like they were a great team because he was their
quarterback to a large extent, and without the depth behind him,
they did not expose him in the running game until
Doug it came up like games against Wisconsin and Penn
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State and then a little bit in the Big Ten
Championship game and then against Clemson. So they were only
revealing that aspect of their offense, which certainly is there
in the times in which they needed it. And I
think the same will be true this year. Um not
only will they continue to develop him from the pocket,
which he did beautifully last year, but they don't want
to expose him to some of those hits and get
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him banged up when clearly he's their best player and
has the potential to win a Heisman Trophy this year.
But but I will tell you I saw him before
last season in the spring, so a couple of springs
ago and standing with Ryan Day on the sideline and
and Doug each of us. I looked at him and
I was like, listen, he's really talented, but he's really raw.
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And Ryan said, I know, I know, and we're gonna
have to, you know, develop him as as a thrower.
And they did that so well. Um, now their quarterback
coach left, Mike Yersich left and is now the coordinator
at the University of Texas with Sam Ellinger, and Urban
Meyer's son in law is now the quarterback coach at
Ohio State. But I will tell you that I thought
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Ryan Day developed and Mike Garsitch developed justin fields from
the pocket as well as anyone had over the course
of last season to the point where he was deadly
from the pocket. And even the interception that he threw
to to finish the season that was a clear mistake
by Cristal Lave the wide receiver who broke off his
route rather than going to the post. But field is
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Is is a deadly passer from the pocket, which is
what makes him Doug such a an enticing prospect along
with Trevor Lawrence. For the NFL. UM you mentioned Trevor Lawrence,
and they looked dominant. Ever, Alabama look dominant. Um of
the expectations are fair unfair. I mean, I know they
got Penn State after playing Nebraska, but Ohio State will
be that third team. If you had to guess on
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a fourth team right now, who would it be. I
would be pretty surprised if it's not Georgia, even with
that loss, and even if they were to lose again
to Alabama. And obviously there's a lot of there's a
lot of football to be played, and I think Notre
Dame fans would be frustrated with that. But Notre Dames
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just seems inconsistent at times. I mean, they've got to
take care of Louisville to to a much greater degree
than they were able to last year, and I just
don't see it. Out of other teams. We were not
seeing that jump. Florida already lost they're clearly not ready defensively,
and I don't think A and M is ready because
of their game against Alabama earlier this year. So I
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think it's I think it's Georgia. If I was a
betting man, it would be Clemson, Alabama, Ohio State in Georgia.
All Right, we'll see. Obviously you're very very popular in
South in Indiana at this particular moment. Uh. In the meantime,
State travels, State travels to Columbus and welcome back, Welcome
back to Big ten football, and it will be a lot,
a lot of fun. Thanks so much for joining us.
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All Right. It's the one and only Joel Clatt who
pointed out these younger than me. Thanks Joel, appreciate that. Now.
I used to be the youngest, I like, always younger
than everybody i'm interview. Now I'm like, yeah, I'm actually
not younger than Joel. That kind of sucks. All right,
I got a bunch of man, I got a lot
on my plate here. Colin Cowherd loves what he's seen
from I'll tell you or you'll hear from him after
(31:24):
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(31:47):
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played for you a portion of a previous show on
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what do the Fox Say? This was called and coward?
But what he saw? Carson Wentz and there lost the
Raven yesterday. There are moments when a quarterback can win
any stinks, and there are moments when a quarterback loses
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and he's unbelievable. If you don't get Carson Wentz at
this point, I'm out. I'm done with you. This kid's incredible.
I went and looked this morning. The Eagles have had
We're just starting the season. We're not even close to Thanksgiving.
Seventeen offensive players have missed games, including four of the
five offensive lineman didn't have Lane Johnson yesterday. His record
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won't show it, his stats won't show it. He was unbelievable. Yesterday.
He's the anti Aaron Rodgers. He's all guts, he's all fight.
So he had his He was missing his three best
receivers yesterday and his best offensive lineman. They got down
big to Baltimore. Baltimore was heavily favorite. Baltimore was rolling them.
He then loses his best tight ends, Accurates, and his
best running back, Miles Sanders, and they come back and
(32:52):
they fight, and if not for a lousy two point
called by Doug Peterson, they maybe tie the football game
Eagle receiving it could have been. They should have won
by a touchdown. Eagle receivers were dropping touchdowns, they were
dropping open stuff in the flap. He had nothing to
work with. I couldn't agree more. I like to come
on and say that Colin said this, and I disagree,
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and I couldn't agree more. And I saw Max Kellerman
getting an argument with the Dan Orlovski about a play
here or a play there that he made, Like, are
we watching the same football? You clearly did not watch
the game. You want to be hot take, dude, if
you want to be critical of Carson today, were they
terrible in the first half? Yes, I was watching and
(33:38):
I'm watching a bunch of games, and he just it
was late in the first half. He had three yards
passing three Like, dude, this is bad, bad, But you know,
let they win in the locker room and they fix
some things and talk some things out. And he made
plays with no offensive line to protect him, without his
star running back, you know, and he's just dealing back there.
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And the Ravens are a good football team to I
think the Ravens have a couple more flaws maybe than
other sure, but everyone concludes like the Ravens are a
good football team with a good defense and the way
in which they're designed like everybody, but especially to get
a lead and to stay ahead. Then they get a
lead and then they can just pressure you, pressure you,
pressure you, pressure you with exotics, and then run the
(34:21):
football and grind out a game. They never lose games
where they have a lead. A matter of fact, Lamar
Jackson has never lost a game that he had a
lead at the half. And yesterday should have at least
gone overtime. They're down to you know, terrible two point
conversion play and they end up losing. But I was
I'm with Colin. We can take shots at some of
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the things once has done previously. And I understand this
desire to play hero ball when you don't have your
regular group of assets. You're but he's I thought he
played big time football in the second half of yesterday's game,
And like what we do this thing? We're quarterback only
goods credit when they win, Like okay, well, Dac used
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to get credit when they'd win and he didn't play well.
Now we don't give him blame when they lose and
he does play well, Like I don't. I like congruent arguments.
Ones that work kind of together, those ones don't work together.
Um buyer, um along kind of some of those similar lines.
As we're getting ready for the Tennessee Buffalo govern that
Tennessee the Buffalo Buffalo play well, oh Buffalo, Kansas City.
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This is a big time game. Um Can I go ahead?
Can I quick way in on Eagles Ravens as well?
And I agree with you, like I thought, Carson Wentz
was magnificent in the in the second half, at least
drastically better than maybe what we had seen prior the
Jalen Hurts aspect. Yesterday was the first time that I
felt that he helped like it was a distraction. Maybe
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in the other weeks when you were trying to put
Jalen Hurts in and you're feeling like you're just struggling
to find anything, But yesterday seemed like the first day
where this is like, okay, this is a positive and
maybe not being forced in ending up being a negative
for us. And then they had injuries. I mean, you know,
zach Ertz went down with his ankle injury. Miles Sanders
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was hurt on the long run, which a lot of
people credited Jalen Hurts his motion on that play for
a reason for it. But I thought that was also
different for the Eagles. But in the end, to your
point about Wentz without those weapons, he had to step
up in the second half to come back and he did. Um. Look,
I think as long as I don't mind the Jalen
Hurts thing, as long as you understand he's not at
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this point in his career and maybe never in his career,
going to be a starting caliber quarterback like there is.
He is a long way from being used. He was
drafted a little bit too high because they really liked him,
but he's as long as people understand that they don't
even view him really as the backup quarterback. They view
him as a bit of a guy who they can
use as a kind of a gadget guy, right, yeah, yeah.
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I I sometimes think that the Eagles try to they're
too smart for themselves. And that's where I thought, like
where jail and Hurts was being used in those instances,
and that gave him just the offense of all the motion,
all the different things that they do, and it's like,
you guys can't even just slide up and run the
football or drop back and throw the football. And I
thought that that was actually different this time around. Uh,
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but you're right, yeah, he's not gonna take over the
starting job. No, but I heard people like, oh, you
might as well be put Jale Hurts And they're like, no,
he can't play. He's not a not an NFL quarterback.
Maybe eventually maybe they're not even he's not. The reps
he gets are not in true, they're trying to use
him in all of these different trying to get some
value out of him wide receiver, slot guy, running back, quarterback.
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He can throw, Like just because you can play quarterback
for a couple of plays, does not a quarterback make right?
And then and they don't have any expectations of that.
But what happens is when your starter is making a
huge amount of money struggles, then all of a sudden
you're like, well, let's go to the backup the young guy.
He's got it. Let's give him a shot. Like now,
we're not there right now, yes, which is what they
(37:57):
drafted him for. They draft him because they had a
little tasting hill and being there, they really really need
an offensive lineman. God Ryan Howard joins the show. Coming next,
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