John reacts to the news of Jared Goff getting a massive contract extension from the Lions and how his path to success was different from other star QB's, how FOX is setting Tom Brady up for success by having him call the Cowboys-Browns game to start the season, DeSean Jackson and Shady McCoy go all in Chip Kelly and say things that other players have likely wanted to say about Chip, and finally "Tangent Tuesday."
Lastly, John answers your questions in this episode's mailbag segment.
6:04 - Jared Goff gets an extension
22:20 - Tom Brady in the booth
25:37 - The latest with the Jets
28:08 - DeSean and Shady on Chip Kelly
33:59 - Tangent Tuesday
39:04 - Mailbag
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What is going on everybody? John Middlecoff three and out podcasts.
That would be the show and that would also be me.
Hopefully everyone's having a good day. We know the Detroit
Lions are because they give an extension to Jared Goff
for a lot of money. He has resurrected his career
and helped resurrect the franchise, who now has sold out
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their season tickets for the second straight year. Amazing what
winning will do for your business. In the field of sports.
We know Tom Bray's first game that he will do
on television. Shocker, it's the Cowboys. Something on the Jets.
And I have to give some comments on Chip Kelly
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because Deshaun Jackson and Shady McCoy did a full podcast
on basically why he's one of the biggest d bags
of all time and I loved it. I watched the
whole thing was I was laughing. Shady Shady was funny. Man.
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Some guys pop immediately, Some guys struggle and then get
the right coach and then have success. Some guys basically
live in obscurity for years and resurrect their career later.
Not everyone is on the same path, no different than
the right. We all know people that have immediate success
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in whatever industry that they jump in. Some guys that
screw around in their twenties, all of a sudden in
the thirties they start having financial success. None of us
are alike. Whether you're an athlete, whether you're a salesman,
I don't care what you do. We all have different
paths that we take. And I think Jared Goff is
a good example because when he was drafted number one one,
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he played on a Cal team that was terrible. I
mean was god awful. His first year they went one
and eleven. He was supposed to go play for Jeff Tedford.
Sonny Dykes came in and it was just a bad fit.
Sonny's a good guy and proven to be a good coach,
but he did not fit in Berkeley his style and
it was a disaster. And then Jared Goff's rookie year
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was as bad as it gets. You could argue it
was worse than Bryce Young's. From an itest standpoint, it
was like, this guy might not be an NFL player.
Then Sean McVay comes in and changes the game, and
he proves immediately he's not only a really good quarterback,
but like, if your team's good, you can win with
him in the playoffs. You can win with Jared Goff
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in the playoffs, something we do not know about guys
like Tua. Something we don't know about guys like Dak
Prescott has not proven that. Kirk Cousins definitely has not
proven that this is a guy when the lights are
the brightest you can win with. Again, he's not gonna
carry your team in the sense of like a Josh Allen,
Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes, but no one with
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a brain comparison to those guys. But of the non
top five or six guys, if he's on the right team,
he can arguably be the best of the next group.
And he's kind of proven that now twice on two
different teams with the Rams and the Lions. So I
said for a while that I would love to get
him on the thirty thirty five million dollars a year deal,
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But it's kind of stupid to talk like that. Why
because no one gets those type contracts anymore. You're either
a highly paid guy or you're nothing. And it's kind
of bared out right. Kirk Cousins towards Achilles and got
forty five million dollars a year. Well, Jared Goff goes,
I'm better than him. Check my numbers, check my stats,
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check my resume in January. It's not really a conversation.
So he got one hundred and seventy million dollars guaranteed. Now,
the good thing is when you sign a guy like
Jared Goff, there's no guessing. He's proven to you what
he is. He's been doing this now at a pretty
high level. Now, he dipped that last year with the Rams,
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but for the most part, he has been a pretty
consistent quarterback for a long period of time. But he
is not some guy if he was a stock that
could ten X. Let's face it, when the Eagles extended
Jalen Hurts, there was still a lot of unknown He
had played at a high level for one season and
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help going back to when he was drafted, there were
a lot of question marks with Jalen Hurts, and last
year you saw a little bit of an up and down. Right,
the coordinator position was off. It was weird. He wasn't bad,
but he was nowhere near the guy before. And you
just go, well, is the Jalen Hurts we saw in
twenty twenty two is that the guy? Or is this
more of the up and down version that we saw
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in twenty three. I still don't know. I'm not out
on him, but I wouldn't bet my four oh one
k that he's just going to be a superstar for
the next five years, where Jared Goff like, we know
he's not a superstar, but we know exactly what he is.
Think about the Ford family. You know what the number
one selling truck in America has been for forty seven years,
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the F one P fifty. My dad drove one my
entire life. Basically everyone he worked with he was informing
drove one. My brother has now driven one for as
long as he's worked in the industry. Most people do
in that business. And he's not a Ferrari, he's not
a Porsche of Mercedes. But he's a pretty consistent player,
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and he's a guy that you know you can win with.
And what's the other thing that we always talk about
with quarterbacks, the intangibles. Team loves him. He's a good leader.
Here's another thing that I don't think we give him
enough credit for. And this goes back to college. He's
pretty mentally tough. He's been through some shit college. His
team sucked, was not good the Pros. His rookie year awful.
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By the end of his time with the Rams, his
coach was openly publicly talking about how he wasn't good enough.
We can't play with this guy. If memory serves me correct,
he got benched going into a playoff game. And if
it wasn't for I forget the court. It was a heinekey.
Whoever the quarterback was, Wafford broke his thumb or got hurt.
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Maybe Jared had an injured thumb and had to come in.
Could be off of my time, it's been a while,
but Sean McVeigh crushed him in his sense, apologized like
I was wrong for the way I handled it. And
then he got to Detroit. Dan Campbell's first year and
it was really ugly, and by the end of his
second year he's out playing Aaron Rodgers on the road
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in Green Bay and the Colt and last year he
was fucking fantastic. Obviously, had a couple of bad games,
but on the aggregate was a high end player was
easily one of the best players in the NFC at
that position. Now the bar is not as high in
the NFC as the AFC. Right, there's no Mahomes, there's
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no Lamar, there's no Burrow, there's no Josh Allen, no Herbert.
Like the best quarterbacks in the NFC currently are like
Perty Dak Cousins, Goff, Jordan Love, Jalen Hurts, Like that's
the group, and you know that your guy can compete
with those guys because we've seen it. So is this
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a little rich sures feel pretty good about it? I
think they do. And I also think we have to
give the front office credit for there were two trades
on the table, the forty nine Ers and the Rams.
They knew both teams were going to be pretty good,
and they were offering multiple ones. One team had Jimmy
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Garoppolo and the other team had Jared Goff and Brad
Holmes coming from the Rams. I think easily accepted the
Jared Goff trade. Now, do I believe that they thought
that it would turn out this way, that within three
years they would be this good and have no hesitation
of giving Jared Goff over fifty million dollars a year.
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I don't, but they did bet on the right quarterback
because Jared Goff compared to Jimmy Garoppolo it ain't even close.
So the Lions deserve a lot of credit because pivoting
off a talent like Matt Stafford who immediately wins the
Super Bowl is not easy. You usually lose. But argue
that the Lions won and the Rams won two. It's
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truly one of the great win win trades of big
big trades in recent memories. The Lions used that draft
capital to improve their team. The Rams won a super
Bowl with Stafford. A couple years later, they're right back
in the playoffs, and the hell they played each other,
which was one of the better games this year in January.
So a lot of credit to the Lions. This is
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never going to be the sexiest move. He's not the
sexiest player, but he's just good. And because their team
is this good currently for the next couple of years,
you can win at a high level with Jared Goff. Now,
over time with the cap, it could become a little
more complicated, but that's not how NFL teams think. They
live in the now. And they were just right there
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and they let's face it, they should have won the
NFC Championship game. They had a twenty four to three
league the end of the first half. Can't lose that game.
But a big reason they were in that position was
golf in the offense, and it feels like all these
players on that offensive unit, you keep your offensive coordinator.
Lion's got a really good thing going. They sold out
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their season tickets for the second year in a row.
And one thing I learned when I was in radio,
like growing up a kid in northern California, I just
liked the Giants and the forty nine Ers because the
majority of people did. The forty nine Ers had been
winning Super Bowls when I was really young and up
through being a kid and a teenager, the San Fransco
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Giants signed Barry Bonds, they built this stadium and became
a massive, massive brand, and they gained a lot of
bandwagon fans over that time. And when I say bandwagon fans,
I mean people that just casually follow why because people
casually follow winners. And when I was on local radio,
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we had the A's and the Raiders, and from a
rating standpoint, if you put on an A's game, and
these A's teams were good. This is not like this
last four or five years of that franchise. This is
like in one of the peak Billy Bean Cruz competing
to win ninety ninety five games and heading into the
playoffs as a team to be reckoned with. And they
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would four to five x the listenership on the Giant
station then the A's and they're both just really good teams.
Why because one team had dramatically more fans, And whenever
anyone uses well, they just got a lot of bad
Wagon fans. I'd always say, welcome to the business. That's
the point of this whole thing. I always noticed this
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when I did Raiders and Niner games or go to them,
you know in the early twenty tens, is if they
play the Packers or the Steelers, how many of their
fans would show up? Think about the Steelers, they've been
winning consistently, just had winning teams. Or when the season starts,
you just say, we're gonna be competitive and we're gonna
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have a chance to not only make the playoffs, but
to win in the playoffs. Since the early nineteen seventies,
if I was born a Packer fan, my entire life
would have been watching winning teams from the early nineties
with FARV up until last year and what looks like
moving forward. The more you win, the more people care.
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That's why the biggest brands not in football are what
the Yankees, the Lakers, the Warriors are a good example.
I would say for the first twenty twenty five years
of my life, they were mainly a dogshit brand. They
didn't rate. People didn't watch them on television. I'm talking locally,
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they didn't sniff national games. They did not matter. Well.
The last ten years, you could argue they have been
the biggest brand in the NBA. Why do you think
that is? This is not a complicated formula. The cow
Boys are somewhat of an outlier. They have not been
to a conference championship in twenty five years, and they
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we all agree, have the largest fan base in the NFL.
When you put them on TV and they are good,
the most people watch. It's not a coincidence that Tom
Brady's first game, official game as a broadcaster will be
a Cowboy game. Fox did that on purpose because they
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know he will get the biggest audience with that team.
There are other teams that move the needle. The forty
nine Ers are a massive brand. The Pittsburgh Steelers, the
Green Bay Packers massive brand, the Chiefs massive brand. There
is nothing like the Cowboys. Why is that? Well, because
in the nineteen seventies they dominated, and then in the
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nineties a separate generation got to watch them win three
championships in basically four and a half years. So when
I see the Detroit Lions selling out again, a lot
of people were not watching every snap when they were
struggling to win a couple games over the last twenty years,
and their teams were basically consistently bad. I'm not saying
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people don't watch that, and I'm not saying that people
that do watch that are done. I've watched a lot
of bad teams as well over the years. We're actually
the minority. We used to call them p ones in
the radio business. It's kind of like the podcast business.
The more casual people I can resonate with, the more
successful I be doing this. It's why I don't get
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that granular with football in terms of breaking down play
by play or teams that don't matter, because people will
turn off the podcast. This isn't a very complicated strategy.
So the Detroit Lions, they have two things going for him.
One there's a legit optimism and hope moving forward, and
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two there's like substance behind it. They're just good. So
when you ever hear that term you want more bandwagon
fans rooting for whatever team you move for. Why that
means your team is doing something right. That means you
are good, That means you matter. Can you imagine how
many quote unquote bandwagon fans Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes
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have brought the Kansee Chiefs. How many kids that never
in a million years would have had a Chief jersey
now have a Patrick Mahomes or Travis Kelcey jersey all
over America. One of the downfalls I've thought of the
NBA was when I was a kid, I had an
Orlando Magic pair of shorts. I had multiple Chicago Bulls paraphernalia.
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Why Shaq and Michael Jordan. Baseball was huge nationally in
the early nineties. I knew all these players on all
these different teams. I could name lineups from the Baltimore Orioles,
the Texas Rangers, Seattle Mariners. Can't do that anymore, but
we do that with the NFL, especially with the good teams.
So props the Detroit Lions, Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes
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for turning that thing around and just creating a bandwagon,
because that means good things are happening. Tom Brady. Fox
set him up to succeed, and rightfully so. My opinion
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on Tom Brady would be, if I had to lean
he's gonna be good or bad, I would lean good,
but I wouldn't bet a lot of money on it.
I really am more indifferent. I'm just not going to
bet against a guy with a work ethic who resonates
with people. The guy we saw at the roast was
obviously much looser. I do think that version of Tom.
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I don't mean the swearing and the jokes. I just
mean when Tom Brady is locker room tom Brady, he
would resonate with the majority of America because he always
resonated for twenty five years locker room. And if you
can do that, you can resonate with people on the couch.
The problem is we've seen Tom Brady in more of
a corporate scenario and he feels a little stiffer. So
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I'm just I'm fascinated to see what guy. We're gonna
see if he can figure out a way to bring
out that version. Obviously he's got to be clean. On
national television. Tom will be fine because he knows football
and he can be a guys guy. But Fox is
all in on this guy, and to put him on
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Week one Cowboys at Browns, they know what they're doing.
They're setting him up to success. Now they're also setting
him up. A lot of people are gonna be watching
that game. If I had to guess, twenty five to
thirty million people. They're coming out the gates swinging. So
the pressure on Tom Brady. Obviously he's used to it
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as a player, but from a broadcasting standpoint, it's gonna
be interesting in a weird way. Tony Romo got to
fly under the radar, as crazy as that sounds, because
our expectations. He was replacing Phil Simms, who most people
thought was somewhat over the hill and kind of boring,
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and Tony was fresh and he was goofy and he
was calling out plays and it was just he took
everyone by storm. Well that's not how people are coming
into Tom Brady. They're coming in with just enormous expectations.
I like you will have that audio up fascinating to
hear what he's got to say, and it'll be fascinating
because there's gonna be no room for error early on
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in terms of the judgment. Ultimately, Fox just cares how
many people watch, and I think a lot of people
are gonna watch. But in a weird way off the field,
you could argue Tom Brady's one of the more fascinating
storylines coming into the season. What's he gonna be like
on TV? Because we've seen a lot of famous guys
over the years go on television, and so it is
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a completely different medium. You have to be loose when
the red light goes, but you also got to be informative.
You also got to just know one to talk, no
when not to. It's just difficult. It is not easy.
What I do compared to that is dramatic. I just talk.
I can say whatever I want. You can't do that.
There can't swear. Tom clearly swears a lot. You can't
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just talk forever. You have to be in and out.
You got a producer in your ear, and I know
he's been practicing NonStop. Collins mentioned on his podcast, it's
a different when the play's going, so it's it's gonna
be fun and a lot of people are gonna watch
that first game. I think the Jets are just consistently
one of the most dysfunctional organizations in all of sports.
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And I don't think it's because of coaches or general managers.
I'm not acting like Joe Douglas's Bill Polian and Robert
sala Is, you know, Belichick, But you could argue it's very,
very difficult in that scenario when you work for that
owner to function at a high level, because I think
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he's terrible. And I've heard this countless times from people
in the league, like you don't quite understand what this
guy has to deal with With Woody Johnson. I've been
told by a couple of people. If you remember when
Joe Douglas was first hired, it took a while for
the deal to get done, and I know people were
in Joe Douglas's ear under no circumstance because he kind
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of had him by the balls. Remember it was a
little late. If you're gonna sign with the New York
Jets to be the general manager, you better get every
penny possible because people go there to fail because of
Woody Johnson. He is very, very difficult to work with.
He's always in your shit. He is not one of
those owners that are like, hey, you just cook. He
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comes with ideas, he comes with we're doing this. So
when I read that the Jets look to hire someone
over in Nathaniel Hackett, my first reaction was that feels
like a Woody Johnson idea, because no coach or GM,
if you have an offensive coordinator, whether he's good or bad,
would keep that guy and then hire someone over him.
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You would just fire that guy and then hire a
new offensive coordinator. And I think one big issue for
the Jets that no matter what players they have on
the team, the hardest thing to overcome is Woody. And
I think we have immediately seen that since Woody came
back from wherever the hell he was. It's tough. It's
a difficult individual to have around because we've seen the
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best owners support you with their checkbook and stay out
of your way. It doesn't mean you're going to get
everything right. It doesn't mean that you know your coach
and your general manager are the biggest geniuses in the league.
But for you to have a chance at success, you
have to let them do their job. So the reason
you hired them is the reason you pay both guys
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millions of dollars. And that's just now with the Jets
do they always have, consistently have dumb ideas, And I
think a lot of those dumb ideas stem from the owner,
DeShawn Jackson and Shady McCoy. I'd be lying if I
said it wasn't one of my favorite videos that I've
ever watched. They basically did an hour podcast, the two
(25:19):
of them talking non stop shit about Chip Kelly. And
they called several people throughout the podcast, Jason Peters, Jeremy Macklin,
Brandon Graham on their phone and put it on the
mic to ask them what they thought of Chip Kelly.
And it was ugly and I would recommend if if
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you want to just be entertained and laugh a little bit,
to turn it on. And I can't speak for Deshaun
as much, but I a lot of dinners when I
worked for the Eagles during the season, me and the
scouts would have and sell it and Shady were there
a lot. I would say there wasn't anyone that didn't
get along with Leshawn McCoy. He's one of the more
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easy going guys to like, he's just kind of a
magnetic personality, and you can tell in this video he's
just He's just an awesome guy to have in your
locker room. And they both despised chip Kelly. Now, obviously
I got fired how he technically called me, But I
got in an argument in a draft meeting with Chip
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Kelly over Matt Barkley, and in my short interactions with him,
it was very short, like i'd be lying if I
have a great feel for him as a person. My
first reaction because I felt like he forced me out.
I don't like him, but it's not because I dealt
with him a lot personally. I know a lot of
people though that spent the next several years around Chip Kelly,
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and I got to say that I second third and
stamp everything those guys say. Every story I ever heard
about the guy was he was a complete douchebag. And
one of the themes of their podcast and this other
players had said this as well, is he really struggled
to talk with the black guys on the team. Listen.
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I knew a lot of scouts that were white guys
that got the same thing, like I think he really
struggles to interact with people, and I think he from
everyone I've ever met, think he's a complete fraud and
that they hammered this. He would say one thing to
your face and do something else behind your back. I've
always thought this, having firsthand knowledge of people I'm very
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close with in the league. He's just a legitimately bad guy.
I just don't think he's a good person. And I've
been around good people in the sport of football. I
worked for two years around Pat Hill, high quality, high
character guy. Obviously, the same thing with Andy Reid, but
there were a lot of guys on that staff, just
good people. Doug Peterson, Sean McDermott. I mean, these guys
went on Todd Bowles, just nice guys, just easy to
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deal with. Jim Kelly was not that guy, and I
think everything they said I said this forever growing up
a UCLA fan. I couldn't believe one that they hired him.
I think he has been one of the biggest con
artists in the sport of football since the Eagles thing ended.
He conned the Niners out of a job, he conned
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Ucla out of a job, and now he's at Ohio State.
Mainly because he got Ryan Day's career started in the
NFL when he hired him with the Eagles. I think
both guys are very, very lucky that Jim Harball left
Michigan and went to the Chargers, because I think if
Jim Harball just would have been like, you know what,
I'm good on the NFL. I'm just gonna stay at
Michigan and build a bully, I think he would have
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ended them. Would have now Ohio State might end up
beating him now, Sharon More, it's going to be, you know,
a drop off obviously with Hardball gone. But I just
think Jim Kelly's a bad guy and I think they
hammered that home. No one trusts him. I just think
he's one of the bigger frauds in the business. And
whatever he did revolutionary, which he did back in Oregon.
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It's twenty twenty four. No one gives a shit the
way here people. I've just never heard a good thing
over the last ten years of anyone that works for him.
And listen, it's football. Tensions are high, people have bad moments,
welcome to life. But the way that he consistently acted
toward people, it's just it's consistently the most negative thing
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that I hear in the sport relative to any other person.
And I'm not one just to say this to say this,
like Brandon Saley, I ripped as a coach. I don't
know him as a guy, like it has nothing personal
like this is personal with Chip Kelly, the way he
treats people. So I'm glad those guys did it because
I've never seen anything like that. Think how long football
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has been going. Think how many players that are out
of the league could do that to different coaches, but
they don't because it'd be basically impossible. It'd be really,
really hard. I mean they easily went for an hour
doing that and getting other guys. And it's not just
like Jeremy Mack super high character normal, well like guy
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Brandon Graham. I mean, it's one of the more famous
Eagles of the last decade. Jason Peters a little bit
of a wild card in his early days, but the best,
as those guys said, the best player on the team
has been playing in the NFL still. I think he
was playing last year. It's like forty two years old.
Everyone likes the guy. They fucking couldn't stand him because
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you know, what they knew, and this is where I
know the race component comes in. But I truly don't
believe it's about that, because if one of his players,
if one of his scouts was on fire in his
front yard, I don't believe Chip Kelly would piss on
him to put him out. I truly believe that to
my core, and I think he's kind of good working.
Some of these media guys listen. I know Colin likes
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him to Joe Klatt always stands by him. I think
he's a complete con artist. So I'm glad that they
put that out, complete fraud, and I wish Hardball would
have stayed one more year so he could kick the
shit out of those two guys. Tangent Tuesday. Just two things.
One I'd be lying. I'm not some huge hockey guy.
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I don't watch regular season hockey. I don't even really
know beside like Connor McGregor most of the good players
in the NHL, I have watched a decent amount of
playoff hockey. It is fantastic. It is like the UFC
meets a puck and an ice rink. The violence, the physicality,
the intensity, it is just a fantastic sport. The level
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of give a shit from every single person, coach and player,
You're on the edge of your seat. I mean, I
basically watched all the Edmonton Vancouver game last night. I
don't have money on these, I have no money on these,
and I was like, this is a fantastic product, and
I get relative to the other major team sports, it's
not as big in America. But if you just like
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competition and you like physicality and violence and just intensity,
playoff hockey is just an awesome sport to watch. And last,
but not least, one thing I just can't quite wrap
my head around. And I see this non stop is
former NBA players and people on TV talking shit about
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Nikola Jokic. That'd be the equivalent of like someone being like,
you know, Patrick Mahomes, He's just I don't see it.
I don't I don't quite understand the hype. If you
just have been watching basketball for five years and you
watch two games of this guy, like, yeah, this is
one of the best players I've ever seen. I've been
watching the NBA for thirty years. He's easily one of
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the most dominant players I've ever seen. And good guy,
not some self promoter champion mvp Z. I don't get it.
I truly don't get it. Is it jealousy? Is it
because he can't jump? I don't understand it. If you
watch a Yokitch game consistently, he's putting up like thirty eight,
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ten and fifteen. He is kicking the shit out of
whoever he is playing. Like it's not even debatable how
good the guy is. And it's not like he's some
overhyped player that always gets bounced in the first round.
He literally won the championship last year and after these
two games, probably gonna win the championship again this year.
But even if he doesn't like he is clearly a
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high level, championship incredible teammate. I just don't understand. Every
time I look on the Internet, Instagram, Twitter, flip on
TV and one of those talking people are talking shit,
It's one of the most baffling things I've ever seen.
I understand they're polarizing players, right, see it with Josh Allen,
see with Lamar James Harden over the years, even Lebron
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before he won a championship. I get it, But like,
once you prove you're the best player on the best team,
what are we discussing, and you just consistently run circles
around everyone. You're the best player in the world. Like,
it's not even debatable if people, I guess are always
gonna hate. I just I can't fathom not enjoying watching
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that guy play slash thinking he's overrated or something. I
can't get it. I think of all the athletes I've
ever watched in my entire life, that's probably the biggest
head scratching take that I consistently see ever. Okay, Middlecoff mailbag,
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you guys know the drill at John Middlecoff at John
Middlecoff is the Instagram fire in those dms. To get
your question answered here on the show, we will start
with Kobe Brown five hundred and ninety four followers. By
the way, not bad, young man. It was like a
firefighter mailbag. Everyone acts like the Bears fleece the Panther
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with the trade last year. I agree, and it looks
like a landslide, especially with how young played last season.
But I believe we still need to consider the fact
they passed on CJ. Stroud. Would you take Stroud over
Caleb Williams. I would take c J. Stroud. So you're
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saying that the Bears passed on c J. Stroud being
number one. I think I would rather have. Like if today,
would you take c J. Stroud or Caleb Williams May thirteenth,
twenty twenty four, you would If you were in the NFL,
you would have to take c J. Stroud. He has
a year body of work. No one can debate that, right,
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you would have to take CJ. Stroud. And I'm high
on Caleb Williams. I think if you told me today,
I could have everything. The Bears got DJ Moore, the
picks and Caleb Williams. I think you would have to
take that because it's not Caleb for CJ. Stroud. It's
Caleb plus DJ Moore plus they sucked another year with
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Justin Fields which led to Roma Dunsa, Right, so there's
there's other stuff that comes along with it. I think
in a vacuum player for player you would take CJ.
Stroud to day, but when you factor in the package,
I would take the risk of Caleb and everything else
still could be wrong, but I think you would have
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to because it was it was a lot. I mean,
they also have their second round pick next year, so
what if the Panthers suck again. What if that pick
is thirty seven, so it's Caleb DJ Moore a second.
I mean it's a lot, man. I think you got
a fact. I hear what you're saying, and you're not wrong.
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But it's not player for player, it's the entire trade.
And I think when you factor in the entire trade
of a no brainer, love the show. Appreciate you, Trent.
My question for the mail bag is, as someone who
worked under him for years, what do you believe separates
Howie as one of the best gms in the league.
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What are some of his unique philosophies he has? Well,
I think one of the most powerful things you can
have in that position is information. Is being information gather
on pro guys, on college players, and on the coaching world.
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And I think nobody uses information better. And Howie is
what I would consider an intellect. He's very bright. So
his ability to make these trades on draft night, he
can just operate on his feet better than I would
just say, quote unquote some football guys. So his intellectual capacity,
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just in terms of maneuverability and understanding the cap because
that's where he started, is just far superre than everyone else.
So he watches tape and he's been doing it now
for twenty plus years. I don't think anyone's gonna, you know,
get him, consider him Bilpollion, right or someone like that.
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But he knows what's good and what's bad. And his
ability to understand contracts and the value of contracts and
then work trades either on the draft or not on
the draft is clearly second to none. So I remember
getting there and I was essentially like his personnel assistant
and being overwhelmed because he was kind of all over
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the map because his brain fires like all of others
do that have like EIGHTYHD here, and it was hard
to keep up on everything. Within a year you kind
of get a hold of. You just got to be
prepared for anything. But I think he's done a very
very good job over the years of hiring. I mean,
they have a really good scouting staff, and he has guys.
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I mean, now he's had Alan Walking forever, who I
consider a friend and who's really good at his job.
He hired Joe Douglass away. I mean when I was there,
we had Veach, Lewis Riddick, Phil Savage, we had a
lot of people. He just always has like and part
of this is Jeffrey giving him the budget, you know,
to higher high high end scouts. He works closely with
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those guys. He works with a contract. I would also
say his capacity to follow everything is pretty impressive. It's
really really difficult. I think, you know, most people just
believe that everyone in the NFL kind of knows everything.
A lot of college scouts have no clue what guys
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in the NFL look like on tape. Like they're not
constantly watching college tape, right, just like a lot of
pro guys aren't super dialed in twenty four to seven
to the college game. There is a small percentage, I
would say, of guys that are all over it all
the time, what's playing in both and then understanding the
value because his job isn't just to get the player right,
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it's to know the value of those guys. And I
think how he's elite at that because he looks at
it from I would say much more of analytical is
the wrong way to put it, but an unemotional like
this is the value on the guy, this is what
we're willing to pay, this is when and he's the
other thing he's got that you have to have in
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the NFL when it comes to players, and actually he
can be very cutthroat and just move off a guy
and pivot on a guy. And I think as he's
gotten older when I you know, since then, obviously he's
got very close emotional ties to their core group of
guys you know, over the years, Kelsey Lane, Johnson, Brandon Graham,
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Fletcher Cox, because he spent so much time around those guys.
And I think the one thing he's really really good at,
because the Eagles have been good at this for a
long time, is knowing what high high end guys look like.
And then I think a characteristic that he balances pretty
well is the character stuff of valuing character. I think
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they do a good job of that now. I mean,
look at the two guys they took, but also knowing
that like to win in the NFL, you gotta take
some you gotta take some chances, and sometimes you gotta
put your balls on the table like he did with
Jalen Carter. And let's face it, like some of the
gms in the league, which I don't blame them, like
I don't blame Atlanta or Detroit, like it was pretty risky,
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but maybe Atlanta would have benefited from taking him over
Bjon Robinson, but they didn't. They didn't do it, you know,
and how his team was much more equipped to handle
him because of the Georgia guys. I doesn't think he'll change,
you know, He's smart. People change, right, Like philosophically, when
it comes to business, you have a belief and then
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the world changes and you gotta pivot. If you don't,
you're gonna get lapped and you're gonna be one of
those people in five or ten years complaining about it.
I've always thought, like my moral compass in what I
believe in, like when it comes to society, honestly hasn't
really changed in thirty years, like how to treat people,
how to act when it comes to dealing with older people,
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when it comes to dealing with people professionally, like I've
kind of been taught that by my parents since I
was I don't know, ten, fifteen years old. But when
it comes to the way I look at money and
the industry I'm in constantly changes and it constantly adapts,
and I think anyone professionally has to be willing to
do that. And I think no one is better than
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pivoting when they have to pivot than how he Now,
he's intense. He you know, he's he's on and he'd
be the first to tell you that all the time.
Like he is not some guy chilling with his feet up,
fucking around like it's it's an intense environment, which is
very I would say symbolic of the city he's in.
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It's not an easy place to work. But even when
they're I would say even more so when they're having success,
he's just he's an intense guy. And it was It
was an incredible experience for me just to see something
that I never would have got to see in terms
of being around someone who is I would say, is driven,
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intellectually driven and thinks just kind of differently than everyone else.
But also it's it's football, so I mean, how different
can you be? Like everyone wants good players, but there's
no like, hey, we're cool, now, we're good. Roster's good
Like the Eagles. A day you look at their roster,
it's pretty good, I'll promise you. Internally, they're not just
hanging out like we're set. Let's just let's just kind
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of mail it in till summer break. Like no, it
is a high stress environment once I left the Eagles
is like, fuck, I can't do anything. Put me in
the boiler room. I'll be good to go. Where's Ben Affleck?
I'm ready to rock. With NIL deals becoming the next
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method of recruiting players, do you think the once upon
a time colleges will start to compete again for national
championships or even make it into the playoffs. Think of Nebraska,
who is big time money and a massive following, but
hasn't had success in twenty plus years. They did go
to the conference championship in Nadama consus here back in
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the nineties, Nebraska was always the top program and even
receive back to back national championships. Could nil bring them
back to obscurity? Well, I think a program like that.
Let's use them as an example because obviously you did.
They're in the Big Ten, so they're competing against You
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could argue that Ohio State. I guess Texas, maybe A
and M, but Ohio State can compete with anyone. Financially.
I think they cut ten million dollars worth of checks
to get the top transfer guys this offseason. So that's
like the equivalent of going up against like Appler, Google,
So like they have more money than you, and because
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of their success, they're unwilling or they're not unwilling to
like ever, they don't even ask questions like do you
need this guy, let's do it, you need this coach,
let's do it. You need this player? How much he cost?
And then you get Michigan. Now with their most recent success,
they're even going to be more aggressive. You add Oregon,
who has a massive war chest of money, usc same thing.
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How can you compete against them? Well, the only way
because you're not gonna be able to buy players like
them consistently. I know you got Riola and reports are
that you gave him millions of dollars his dad played there.
Like if Riola's dad had played at Florida or at
Utah or at Oregon, would he be at Nebraska? Probably
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not someone else. They would have accepted someone else's money.
And I don't blame them for being aggressive with a
guy just because they had a connection, But on the whole,
you're not gonna get that level of talent, so you
need to shorten the gap with the coach. The reason
Utah these last like five years has been so freaking competitive,
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they're not gonna have the nil money of USC, Oregon
or Washington. They're just not. But their coach is elite.
So if Matt Rule is a high end college football coach,
you can make the playoffs. And if Riola hits, If
Riola hits, and Rule is everything we build him to
be as a college coach, you're gonna be good. I
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don't think you're gonna be Ohio State, LSU, Bama, Georgia,
what Texas is gonna Texas is gonna benefit the most
from this money, Oregon. But can you be like the
ninth seed and win a playoff game which would be
a massive, massive success. Hell yeah, I grew up on
Tommy Frazier and Lawrence Phillips, those teams. Those late You're
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like ninety five ninety six Nebraska teams. The shit huge
Chiefs fan here and Rashid Rice news has been a
huge kick in the you know what to this offseason.
I know you can't monitor their players twenty four to seven,
but what can teams do to try and make sure
this stuff doesn't happen? Is there some kind of mentoring
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or advisement teams offer, especially with these young guys who
become rich very quickly. These teams invest so much money
in the league as a whole to mentor to talk
to these players. Think about the money the Chiefs have
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invested in guys like Mahomes and Kelsey and Justin Reid
and those type guys on their team that are around
these type guys every day during the season, telling them
how to act, what to do right, how to be
a pro, what to avoid. Eventually, in the real world,
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you can't hold everyone's hand, and once the offseason starts,
because of the CBA agreement, he's free to do whatever
the fuck he wants. So you don't think that the team,
the players, like they talk about this stuff NonStop. But
once it's February, March, April, May until voluntary OTAs, now
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Rice can come back. I think the Chiefs told him
not to come back, you know, to get a stuff
in order. But like, what could they have done when
he's got seven eight buddies, they're all drunk and high
and they're renting Lamborghinis, Like he has the funds to
do that. It's a maturity thing. Now. They also know
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what they were getting when they drafted the guy. He
had red flags coming out of college. Obviously, when he's
around the team, no issues. And in college you're around
the team eleven and a half months a year, you're
never out of their sight, and the pros you're not.
This is the big leagues. You're grown up with lots
of money now, so you either understand the opportunity you
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have or you potentially throw it away, like it looks
like this guy's doing because he has the incident where
he leaves the scene, which he doesn't take you know,
a rocket scientist to figure out. Why do you think
he left the scene. Why do you think It's not
very hard to figure out, which, for his sake, probably
the you know, in a weird way. Thank god no
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one got injured. Right thing to do, because it would
have been way worse. And then this issue with hitting
someone at a club, like it does show you when
you deal with immature individuals. I hate tell him like,
you shouldn't be party, and you shouldn't be this, do
whatever the hell you want to do. This is America.
I've never been into telling others what to do at
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any point in time in my adult life. But like,
once you get in trouble with the the hit and
run situation, shouldn't you probably lay low I'm not saying
you can't hang out with some buddies, shouldn't be at
the club, because let's face it, once you start consistently
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going out after that incident, you become even more of
a target. And for you to have an altercation after
that situation, like there's a line of you know, immaturity,
got some stuff to work on it, and you're just
a fucking moron and you're becoming a major headache. The
problem is in pro sports, he is talented, and when
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your talent outweighs your problems, you figure out ways to
get around it. You could argue at this point in time,
his talent and his problems are starting to see ey'd eye,
not like this guy's Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, ain't Tyreek Hill,
good young player, winning player. But those two incidents in
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a short period of time for a team that plans
on winning the Super Bowl every year, full of high
character superstars, I just think you get to a point
like you just can't hold their hand. You can't mandate
that they stay in Kansas City. You can't mandate this
is a business, like there are unions involved. And here's
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the thing. Most guys can handle themselves and listen, we're
all gonna make a mistake as a young person if
we got a lot of money and we're drinking, Like, yeah,
you're gonna do some things you regret. But there's a
fine line of you know, I wish I could have
the last night back and the things that he's doing,
but there's only so much Andy Reid the Chiefs can do.
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I'm a Bears fan living in the Carolinas, creating quite
an interesting dynamic these days when I hit up local
sports bars. Haven't heard you address the fields at kick
returner rumors? I still root for fields from Afar for
the remainder of his career. Is there any legitimacy to
the dynamic ball carrying quarterbacks frequently serving the returnal role
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given the approved kickoff formation. I talked about it yesterday
on the mailbag. I saw Sean Payton discussing how explosive
this new kickoff rule is gonna be, Like there are
gonna be fireworks, there are gonna be a lot of touchdowns.
And if you just think at it from a basic
football standpoint, like why do most runs not go for
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fifty sixty seventy yards? It's really twofold. Most running backs
don't have elite high end speed, so they can't run
away from people like a Tyreek kill. But you also
have defenders on every level, and unlike a pass where
if I throw a go route, if he doesn't have
safety help, it's basically a one on one situation. If
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that guy falls, if that guy misjudges his jump, whatever,
It's very easy for big explosive plays to happen on
pass plays. In the run game, there's a reason an
eight or ten yard run is considered a long run
cause you have to go by two levels of the defense.
You get the defensive line the line of scrimmage, and
then you have two to three and a half depending
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on how you play, the safety linebackers, and you got
to get by those guys. For the defensive guys a
safety or a corner to make the tackle and for
you to have a long, long run, you basically now
it might be to a left or right so you're
not taken out, you know, running by the entire team,
but you're running by a lot of guys. They're getting blocked,
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you're avoiding them. This new kickoff return, if you hit
a hole, you're like once you get past the defensive guys,
you're gone. I wonder if some of these teams, you know,
the guys are all lined up on the on whatever
the yard line is, you know, five yards apart, if
you wouldn't have two or three guys immediately drop back,
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you know, basically turn into like a safety and backpedal.
So if there is a situation where the guy breaks out,
because if he misses the first line of defense, if
everyone's going forward, he's gone. So when that rumor about
justin fields, it wasn't a rumor that Jalen Warrens said
it on Cam Hayward's podcast Multiple time guests of this show,
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Cam Hayward, that is Walter Payton Man of the Year.
So they brought it up, and I thought, well, it
sounds a little crazy, But when you factor in fields,
his skill set, elite speed in the open field, well,
what if he misses that first line of defense, he'd
be gone. Kicker ain't making that tackle in the open field.
So I do wonder if there's a little validity to it.
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Now there's the element of he's your backup quarterback. If
Russell got hurt. What if he got hurt on that play?
So I'm not expecting it, and isn't Cordell Patterson now
on the Steelers, But that play is gonna be fascinating.
We're gonna get legit fireworks. Was wondering if you've ever
watched Australian Football AFL before, love to hear your take.
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You know, I have not. Is that considered rugby or
is that considered football? Or is that soccer? I don't know, Yeah,
I have not. Gonna want to get it in the mailbag,
low the pod, especially random moments of life advice, and
my question is gonna be about today. I'm twenty three,
just graduated college in December, and currently making about forty
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thousand dollars a year in my lab position. I don't
have any real responsibilities yet beyond rent and my pets.
The job is cool and holds me over, but beyond money,
I feel really no purpose in trying to move up
in this field. I've started making food content recently and
I'm starting to get a bit of traction there. What's
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a good point to dive headfirst into the passionate work
and throw the responsible moves out the window. Also bring
back share it with your friends, share it with your enemies. Uh,
I would say, you're twenty three years old, so your
food content if it I'm just gonna assume even if
you're getting traction in terms of people watching, if you're
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not making any money on that, it would be hard
to just go all in on that immediately, Like you
do need to pay for rent. I would try to
find a way with your current job to spend even
more time doing what you're doing, which might entail some sacrifice,
doing it at night, doing it on the weekends, and
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over a twelve month period, see if you can build
it up where it's like, yeah, I might be able
to make some money on doing this before you just
jump in. So basically, treat like you have two jobs,
which is a lot of time. But if you just
quit your job and do this, it can be discouraging.
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If you're not making any money, then all of a sudden,
you're in a position where you're backs against the wall.
So can you do the job you're doing If you're
going through the motions and just work on your other
kind of side project in your head the majority of
time and when you're at home or on the weekends
or whenever your free time is just double down on that.
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And then the moment that if you're able to generate
enough money where it's like, ah, I might be able
to at least just survive off this, quit the other job,
and go all in. But now you could take just
jump into the deep end, just quit and put all
your chips on the table. But you could be in
a position where if you don't have any help from anybody,
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you can't pay rent or don't have any food. So
if you just need to survive in the short term,
use the job you currently have to survive, and put
all your effort and energy into your passion. Because I
was actually at dinner with some of my girl's friends
and this one girl who it just crushes it, I guess,
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I mean, makes hundreds of thousands of dollars at her job.
She's kind of bored, doesn't even like it, but she's
good at it and she makes a lot of money,
but her passion is something else. And all throughout dinner
she kept talking about what she loves to do, which
she was a big foodie and she wanted to open
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a restaurant and she's just so into it, and I
kind of said it, but also, it's not really my place.
I don't know these people like, why don't you just
do it? And she was in a position where she
had enough save, like she could easily just go all in,
and she's You get to a point and she's this
girl's probably in her early thirties. You start making enough
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money in a profession that you don't care about that much,
they kind of get you with the I don't know
if it's quite golden handcuffs, because she's not making millions,
but she's making enough where it's hard to leave that job.
And then all of a sudden she'd go another ten
twenty years and never make that plunge, and all of
a sudden, the thing she loves most she never tried.
Where she's in the position now like you could kind
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of do it right now. And I just see some
of these people that get too far past and never
give what they really wanted to do a try. And
I've been very fortunate that I just did it from
the jump right. But I didn't make any money I made.
I made none in my twenties enough to survive eat.
But I never made more than fifty thousand dollars before
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I was thirty years old. Some years wasn't even close,
and the equivalent of that would probably be like sixty
seventy now, you know in bigger cities where you know
you barely heads above water. Now I was single, it
didn't have any responsibilities, but I didn't have any other
options because I knew that one I didn't, I couldn't.
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I don't have the energy to do something I don't like.
And I knew that really early on in life. It's
probably the one of my greatest qualities. When I don't
have any energy to do it, I don't care how
much money. I just won't be interested and I just
won't pay attention. I actually knew that from school. Like
I never paid attention in school. It bored me, so
you just It's why my advice always is, when you
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like something and are passionate about it, it's so much
easier to work. It's what I mean. I was thinking
when she was talking about how she was hesitant to
make the plunge. I'm like, you don't understand. It'll be
so much easier for you to work a seventy eighty
hour week doing what you love because it won't feel
like work. Now. Eventually, I always say, work no matter
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how much you love it feels like work because it
just becomes part of your routine. But early on, when
you have to grind the hardest, it's easier to go
above and beyond for less money when you love what
you're doing. And I think it gets very very difficult
for people to transition because the longer you go, maybe
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the more money you get, the more responsibilities you have,
you get married, you have children, you buy a house,
you just it's harder to pivot. And most people are
not just like free wheeling unscared when it comes to
certain things. The majority of people are hesitant, So you
gotta It's why any young person that hits me, and
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I've tried to respond to a lot of you guys,
it's so much easier to try things and take big
swings and do things that you like doing when you're young,
because if you want to make the transition as you
get older, it's very very hard to pivot when you
got two kids and you're dependent on the money and
your mortgage just kind of big, and you know you
got a country club membership, or you got a couple
(01:01:21):
of car payments or whatever's going on. You want to
send your kids at private school, like real life responsibility.
I want to apologize for the long winded DM. I
also have two questions I would like to run by you.
I've been listening to Colin for years and I've enjoyed
hearing your appearances. When I stumbled upon your podcast, I
(01:01:43):
instantly fell in love. Anyway, here's my question. I'm from
the Bay Area in northern California. Grew up Aniner fan,
but fell in love with Alex Smith's quarterback skills and
I followed him to the Chiefs and I have been
a Chiefs fan ever since. At first, I was excited
about the Xavier Worthy pick, but after listening to various
sport shows, I'm hearing he has struggled with drops. I
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think he broke his hand so he played through like
the injury after last year struggles with the wide receiver
room of dropping balls. Should we be concerned about this
being an issue worthy or do you believe Andy will
be able to fix it. I heard someone say his
drop rate relative to the other receivers was actually one
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of the best. I would not be that worried. I
think they feel pretty confident. I know for a fact
because I was texting the room after they took it.
I think they liked this guy a lot, and they
see a similar skill set, not in Tyreek but in DeShawn,
so I would be excited. I began playing golf with
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my dad a few years ago. We now play golf
every week together, sometimes multiple times a week if we can.
Sounds like you two are living well. I recently have
been struggling with making consistent contact with my driver off
the tee. I've been playing with the idea of entering
a local tournament, but I won't feel confident until I
get this part of my game fixed. Do you have
any tips for suggestions for making constant good contact. If
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I knew how to make consistent good contact with the driver,
I would retire from this podcast, start a YouTube channel,
and be a multimillionaire. So no, I think, welcome to golf.
It's by far something every human being, even the pros,
all have in common struggling off the tea. Now. Luckily
(01:03:38):
with the equipment modern day equipment, it's never been easier
when you hit it well. But let's face it, we
all want to swing a little harder with our driver.
Then all of a sudden, you know you're in a
bush with three rattlesnakes and a tree is hanging over you.
It's like, good luck getting out of there, big fan question,
does to us stare down as primary target, the worst
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you've ever seen? Some surprise he doesn't have more interceptions? Well,
they have pretty elite receivers. I mean Tyreek's, I mean
one of the greatest receivers I've ever seen in my
NFL watching life for thirty plus years. And Waddle is
a young star. So and their offensive coordinator is elite.
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I think two. His downfall, honestly, is pretty simple. He
has an average arm. He's a warm weather quarterback. He's
just gonna struggle in the cold. He's just gonna struggle
in the cold. And he's not very mobile. So he's
a small pocket quarterback who's not a very good athlete
relative to NFL quarterbacks. He's much closer like Jared Goff
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movement wise than he is Mahomes. But Jared Goff's got
him by several inches and can see over the offensive line.
Like it's kind of short. I feel like I'm a hater.
I like the guy, I admire him as a person,
just when it comes to paying quarterbacks top dollars, I
just I couldn't do it. But it's like, I'm not
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rooting against the guy. I just think his skill set
in that conference in cold weather cities, which the AFC
is full of, Kansas City, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Buffalo,
I mean, how fuck you beating those teams? Hit? You're
not okay when on this mail bag. The physicality comparison
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for the NBA and NFL is like boxing in UFC.
Once a boxer gets smacked with a leg kick, they
will crumble and start crying immediately because they are just
not hit like that, not calloused up like that. When
an NBA player gets hit sticked in the middle of
the field, they will walk out of the stadium, not
(01:05:51):
even the sideline, far away from the action if they
could even walk. The dumbest part about the rum is
no one with a brain would argue that they don't
have NFL athletes or if guys just quit playing basketball tomorrow,
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a large percentage of the league NFL teams wouldn't work out,
and there would be some NFL teams would immediately sign.
If Zion Williamson just said I'm done with the NBA,
I quit I want to play football, every team in
the league would try to sign Zion to like the
equivalent of a you know, a future practice squad, bare
(01:06:32):
minimum contract, and then he would eventually have to play football.
He has the athleticism and the strength and the explosion,
but could he play tyrese MAXI. I mean you go
around the league, there're a lot could they play every
single day in practice, let alone in the games football?
This is not basketball. You don't just play games like
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you know Lebron's teams, they don't practice. They just hoop baseball.
You just show up and play every day. The NFL
is the opposite. Monday, come in for film, get a workout,
get your rehab, Tuesday, off day, Wednesday, show up, team
meetings seven forty five or eight, then the meetings, then
to walk through, then to lunch, then to practice. Maybe
(01:07:16):
you practice in the morning. These are paths. Thursday, you
do it again, Friday, you do it again. Saturday, if
it's on the road, show up early, breakfast, meetings, walk
through playing, get their meetings, walk through meetings, night, wake up,
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go play. You play once a week. So I just
think the mentality of basketball, guys, it just it's impossible
to even you don't just get to show up and
play like in basketball or baseball. That's not how it works.
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You basically practice all off sea, then all training camp
to just get ready for week one spring training. They
have like three days of practice and they start playing games.
They basically play games for nine months or eight months
or whatever. Basketball, same thing. A couple of practices, then
you start playing games and you're just off. Football is
(01:08:20):
all about practice, and then, like you said, the physicality,
you can say, oh, the games, it's way different than
the eighties and the set we had is have Fred
Warner hit, you have Miles Garrett hit. You have Jalen
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Ramsey tackle you in the open field, have Jalen Carter
chase you down. Say that feels that's one play, got
fifty more buckle up. Just it's it's not as simple.
Well it's like I can just play. It's not how
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football works. It's by far the most complex game. Let's
face it, Basketball is not that complex. Neither's baseball. Relative
to football, which is all about practice, practice, prating, putting plays,
putting plays, I'm not even factoring in. Then you've got
to mentally and physically be able to handle it. In basketball,
like do we run picking rolls or we weren't run motions?
Where's my screen coming? Football? There's like seven checks of
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the line of scrimmage in the NFL. Could they even
handle it? Some of these guys would be overwhelmed. Football
guys are overwhelmed. It's just it was an exhausting conversation.
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What is going on everybody? John Middlecoff three and out podcasts.
That would be the show and that would also be me.
Hopefully everyone's having a good day. We know the Detroit
Lions are because they give an extension to Jared Goff
for a lot of money. He has resurrected his career
and helped resurrect the franchise, who now has sold out
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their season tickets for the second straight year. Amazing what
winning will do for your business. In the field of sports.
We know Tom Bray's first game that he will do
on television. Shocker, it's the Cowboys. Something on the Jets.
And I have to give some comments on Chip Kelly
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on basically why he's one of the biggest d bags
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whole thing was I was laughing. Shady Shady was funny. Man.
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I will have a full golf podcast at Wednesday. I'm
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so we will be talking gambling on that show for sure.
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Colin and I will react to the schedule release on
Wednesday night, So we got We've got a lot going on.
Plus I'm a podcast. What else am I going to
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certain players is not everyone is on the same trajectory right.
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Some guys pop immediately, Some guys struggle and then get
the right coach and then have success. Some guys basically
live in obscurity for years and resurrect their career later.
Not everyone is on the same path, no different than
the right. We all know people that have immediate success
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in whatever industry that they jump in. Some guys that
screw around in their twenties, all of a sudden in
the thirties they start having financial success. None of us
are alike. Whether you're an athlete, whether you're a salesman,
I don't care what you do. We all have different
paths that we take. And I think Jared Goff is
a good example because when he was drafted number one one,
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he played on a Cal team that was terrible. I
mean was god awful. His first year they went one
and eleven. He was supposed to go play for Jeff Tedford.
Sonny Dykes came in and it was just a bad fit.
Sonny's a good guy and proven to be a good coach,
but he did not fit in Berkeley his style and
it was a disaster. And then Jared Goff's rookie year
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was as bad as it gets. You could argue it
was worse than Bryce Young's. From an itest standpoint, it
was like, this guy might not be an NFL player.
Then Sean McVay comes in and changes the game, and
he proves immediately he's not only a really good quarterback,
but like, if your team's good, you can win with
him in the playoffs. You can win with Jared Goff
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in the playoffs, something we do not know about guys
like Tua. Something we don't know about guys like Dak
Prescott has not proven that. Kirk Cousins definitely has not
proven that this is a guy when the lights are
the brightest you can win with. Again, he's not gonna
carry your team in the sense of like a Josh Allen,
Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes, but no one with
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a brain comparison to those guys. But of the non
top five or six guys, if he's on the right team,
he can arguably be the best of the next group.
And he's kind of proven that now twice on two
different teams with the Rams and the Lions. So I
said for a while that I would love to get
him on the thirty thirty five million dollars a year deal,
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But it's kind of stupid to talk like that. Why
because no one gets those type contracts anymore. You're either
a highly paid guy or you're nothing. And it's kind
of bared out right. Kirk Cousins towards Achilles and got
forty five million dollars a year. Well, Jared Goff goes,
I'm better than him. Check my numbers, check my stats,
(07:19):
check my resume in January. It's not really a conversation.
So he got one hundred and seventy million dollars guaranteed. Now,
the good thing is when you sign a guy like
Jared Goff, there's no guessing. He's proven to you what
he is. He's been doing this now at a pretty
high level. Now, he dipped that last year with the Rams,
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but for the most part, he has been a pretty
consistent quarterback for a long period of time. But he
is not some guy if he was a stock that
could ten X. Let's face it, when the Eagles extended
Jalen Hurts, there was still a lot of unknown He
had played at a high level for one season and
(08:02):
help going back to when he was drafted, there were
a lot of question marks with Jalen Hurts, and last
year you saw a little bit of an up and down. Right,
the coordinator position was off. It was weird. He wasn't bad,
but he was nowhere near the guy before. And you
just go, well, is the Jalen Hurts we saw in
twenty twenty two is that the guy? Or is this
more of the up and down version that we saw
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in twenty three. I still don't know. I'm not out
on him, but I wouldn't bet my four oh one
k that he's just going to be a superstar for
the next five years, where Jared Goff like, we know
he's not a superstar, but we know exactly what he is.
Think about the Ford family. You know what the number
one selling truck in America has been for forty seven years,
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the F one P fifty. My dad drove one my
entire life. Basically everyone he worked with he was informing
drove one. My brother has now driven one for as
long as he's worked in the industry. Most people do
in that business. And he's not a Ferrari, he's not
a Porsche of Mercedes. But he's a pretty consistent player,
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and he's a guy that you know you can win with.
And what's the other thing that we always talk about
with quarterbacks, the intangibles. Team loves him. He's a good leader.
Here's another thing that I don't think we give him
enough credit for. And this goes back to college. He's
pretty mentally tough. He's been through some shit college. His
team sucked, was not good the Pros. His rookie year awful.
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By the end of his time with the Rams, his
coach was openly publicly talking about how he wasn't good enough.
We can't play with this guy. If memory serves me correct,
he got benched going into a playoff game. And if
it wasn't for I forget the court. It was a heinekey.
Whoever the quarterback was, Wafford broke his thumb or got hurt.
(09:55):
Maybe Jared had an injured thumb and had to come in.
Could be off of my time, it's been a while,
but Sean McVeigh crushed him in his sense, apologized like
I was wrong for the way I handled it. And
then he got to Detroit. Dan Campbell's first year and
it was really ugly, and by the end of his
second year he's out playing Aaron Rodgers on the road
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in Green Bay and the Colt and last year he
was fucking fantastic. Obviously, had a couple of bad games,
but on the aggregate was a high end player was
easily one of the best players in the NFC at
that position. Now the bar is not as high in
the NFC as the AFC. Right, there's no Mahomes, there's
(10:37):
no Lamar, there's no Burrow, there's no Josh Allen, no Herbert.
Like the best quarterbacks in the NFC currently are like
Perty Dak Cousins, Goff, Jordan Love, Jalen Hurts, Like that's
the group, and you know that your guy can compete
with those guys because we've seen it. So is this
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a little rich sures feel pretty good about it? I
think they do. And I also think we have to
give the front office credit for there were two trades
on the table, the forty nine Ers and the Rams.
They knew both teams were going to be pretty good,
and they were offering multiple ones. One team had Jimmy
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Garoppolo and the other team had Jared Goff and Brad
Holmes coming from the Rams. I think easily accepted the
Jared Goff trade. Now, do I believe that they thought
that it would turn out this way, that within three
years they would be this good and have no hesitation
of giving Jared Goff over fifty million dollars a year.
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I don't, but they did bet on the right quarterback
because Jared Goff compared to Jimmy Garoppolo it ain't even close.
So the Lions deserve a lot of credit because pivoting
off a talent like Matt Stafford who immediately wins the
Super Bowl is not easy. You usually lose. But argue
that the Lions won and the Rams won two. It's
(12:03):
truly one of the great win win trades of big
big trades in recent memories. The Lions used that draft
capital to improve their team. The Rams won a super
Bowl with Stafford. A couple years later, they're right back
in the playoffs, and the hell they played each other,
which was one of the better games this year in January.
So a lot of credit to the Lions. This is
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never going to be the sexiest move. He's not the
sexiest player, but he's just good. And because their team
is this good currently for the next couple of years,
you can win at a high level with Jared Goff. Now,
over time with the cap, it could become a little
more complicated, but that's not how NFL teams think. They
live in the now. And they were just right there
(12:45):
and they let's face it, they should have won the
NFC Championship game. They had a twenty four to three
league the end of the first half. Can't lose that game.
But a big reason they were in that position was
golf in the offense, and it feels like all these
players on that offensive unit, you keep your offensive coordinator.
Lion's got a really good thing going. They sold out
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their season tickets for the second year in a row.
And one thing I learned when I was in radio,
like growing up a kid in northern California, I just
liked the Giants and the forty nine Ers because the
majority of people did. The forty nine Ers had been
winning Super Bowls when I was really young and up
through being a kid and a teenager, the San Fransco
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Giants signed Barry Bonds, they built this stadium and became
a massive, massive brand, and they gained a lot of
bandwagon fans over that time. And when I say bandwagon fans,
I mean people that just casually follow why because people
casually follow winners. And when I was on local radio,
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we had the A's and the Raiders, and from a
rating standpoint, if you put on an A's game, and
these A's teams were good. This is not like this
last four or five years of that franchise. This is
like in one of the peak Billy Bean Cruz competing
to win ninety ninety five games and heading into the
playoffs as a team to be reckoned with. And they
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would four to five x the listenership on the Giant
station then the A's and they're both just really good teams.
Why because one team had dramatically more fans, And whenever
anyone uses well, they just got a lot of bad
Wagon fans. I'd always say, welcome to the business. That's
the point of this whole thing. I always noticed this
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when I did Raiders and Niner games or go to them,
you know in the early twenty tens, is if they
play the Packers or the Steelers, how many of their
fans would show up? Think about the Steelers, they've been
winning consistently, just had winning teams. Or when the season starts,
you just say, we're gonna be competitive and we're gonna
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have a chance to not only make the playoffs, but
to win in the playoffs. Since the early nineteen seventies,
if I was born a Packer fan, my entire life
would have been watching winning teams from the early nineties
with FARV up until last year and what looks like
moving forward. The more you win, the more people care.
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That's why the biggest brands not in football are what
the Yankees, the Lakers, the Warriors are a good example.
I would say for the first twenty twenty five years
of my life, they were mainly a dogshit brand. They
didn't rate. People didn't watch them on television. I'm talking locally,
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they didn't sniff national games. They did not matter. Well.
The last ten years, you could argue they have been
the biggest brand in the NBA. Why do you think
that is? This is not a complicated formula. The cow
Boys are somewhat of an outlier. They have not been
to a conference championship in twenty five years, and they
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we all agree, have the largest fan base in the NFL.
When you put them on TV and they are good,
the most people watch. It's not a coincidence that Tom
Brady's first game, official game as a broadcaster will be
a Cowboy game. Fox did that on purpose because they
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know he will get the biggest audience with that team.
There are other teams that move the needle. The forty
nine Ers are a massive brand. The Pittsburgh Steelers, the
Green Bay Packers massive brand, the Chiefs massive brand. There
is nothing like the Cowboys. Why is that? Well, because
in the nineteen seventies they dominated, and then in the
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nineties a separate generation got to watch them win three
championships in basically four and a half years. So when
I see the Detroit Lions selling out again, a lot
of people were not watching every snap when they were
struggling to win a couple games over the last twenty years,
and their teams were basically consistently bad. I'm not saying
(17:11):
people don't watch that, and I'm not saying that people
that do watch that are done. I've watched a lot
of bad teams as well over the years. We're actually
the minority. We used to call them p ones in
the radio business. It's kind of like the podcast business.
The more casual people I can resonate with, the more
successful I be doing this. It's why I don't get
(17:32):
that granular with football in terms of breaking down play
by play or teams that don't matter, because people will
turn off the podcast. This isn't a very complicated strategy.
So the Detroit Lions, they have two things going for him.
One there's a legit optimism and hope moving forward, and
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two there's like substance behind it. They're just good. So
when you ever hear that term you want more bandwagon
fans rooting for whatever team you move for. Why that
means your team is doing something right. That means you
are good, That means you matter. Can you imagine how
many quote unquote bandwagon fans Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes
(18:18):
have brought the Kansee Chiefs. How many kids that never
in a million years would have had a Chief jersey
now have a Patrick Mahomes or Travis Kelcey jersey all
over America. One of the downfalls I've thought of the
NBA was when I was a kid, I had an
Orlando Magic pair of shorts. I had multiple Chicago Bulls paraphernalia.
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Why Shaq and Michael Jordan. Baseball was huge nationally in
the early nineties. I knew all these players on all
these different teams. I could name lineups from the Baltimore Orioles,
the Texas Rangers, Seattle Mariners. Can't do that anymore, but
we do that with the NFL, especially with the good teams.
So props the Detroit Lions, Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes
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for turning that thing around and just creating a bandwagon,
because that means good things are happening. Tom Brady. Fox
set him up to succeed, and rightfully so. My opinion
(19:27):
on Tom Brady would be, if I had to lean
he's gonna be good or bad, I would lean good,
but I wouldn't bet a lot of money on it.
I really am more indifferent. I'm just not going to
bet against a guy with a work ethic who resonates
with people. The guy we saw at the roast was
obviously much looser. I do think that version of Tom.
(19:49):
I don't mean the swearing and the jokes. I just
mean when Tom Brady is locker room tom Brady, he
would resonate with the majority of America because he always
resonated for twenty five years locker room. And if you
can do that, you can resonate with people on the couch.
The problem is we've seen Tom Brady in more of
a corporate scenario and he feels a little stiffer. So
(20:10):
I'm just I'm fascinated to see what guy. We're gonna
see if he can figure out a way to bring
out that version. Obviously he's got to be clean. On
national television. Tom will be fine because he knows football
and he can be a guys guy. But Fox is
all in on this guy, and to put him on
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Week one Cowboys at Browns, they know what they're doing.
They're setting him up to success. Now they're also setting
him up. A lot of people are gonna be watching
that game. If I had to guess, twenty five to
thirty million people. They're coming out the gates swinging. So
the pressure on Tom Brady. Obviously he's used to it
(20:52):
as a player, but from a broadcasting standpoint, it's gonna
be interesting in a weird way. Tony Romo got to
fly under the radar, as crazy as that sounds, because
our expectations. He was replacing Phil Simms, who most people
thought was somewhat over the hill and kind of boring,
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and Tony was fresh and he was goofy and he
was calling out plays and it was just he took
everyone by storm. Well that's not how people are coming
into Tom Brady. They're coming in with just enormous expectations.
I like you will have that audio up fascinating to
hear what he's got to say, and it'll be fascinating
because there's gonna be no room for error early on
(21:36):
in terms of the judgment. Ultimately, Fox just cares how
many people watch, and I think a lot of people
are gonna watch. But in a weird way off the field,
you could argue Tom Brady's one of the more fascinating
storylines coming into the season. What's he gonna be like
on TV? Because we've seen a lot of famous guys
over the years go on television, and so it is
(22:01):
a completely different medium. You have to be loose when
the red light goes, but you also got to be informative.
You also got to just know one to talk, no
when not to. It's just difficult. It is not easy.
What I do compared to that is dramatic. I just talk.
I can say whatever I want. You can't do that.
There can't swear. Tom clearly swears a lot. You can't
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just talk forever. You have to be in and out.
You got a producer in your ear, and I know
he's been practicing NonStop. Collins mentioned on his podcast, it's
a different when the play's going, so it's it's gonna
be fun and a lot of people are gonna watch
that first game. I think the Jets are just consistently
one of the most dysfunctional organizations in all of sports.
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And I don't think it's because of coaches or general managers.
I'm not acting like Joe Douglas's Bill Polian and Robert
sala Is, you know, Belichick, But you could argue it's very,
very difficult in that scenario when you work for that
owner to function at a high level, because I think
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he's terrible. And I've heard this countless times from people
in the league, like you don't quite understand what this
guy has to deal with With Woody Johnson. I've been
told by a couple of people. If you remember when
Joe Douglas was first hired, it took a while for
the deal to get done, and I know people were
in Joe Douglas's ear under no circumstance because he kind
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of had him by the balls. Remember it was a
little late. If you're gonna sign with the New York
Jets to be the general manager, you better get every
penny possible because people go there to fail because of
Woody Johnson. He is very, very difficult to work with.
He's always in your shit. He is not one of
those owners that are like, hey, you just cook. He
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comes with ideas, he comes with we're doing this. So
when I read that the Jets look to hire someone
over in Nathaniel Hackett, my first reaction was that feels
like a Woody Johnson idea, because no coach or GM,
if you have an offensive coordinator, whether he's good or bad,
would keep that guy and then hire someone over him.
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You would just fire that guy and then hire a
new offensive coordinator. And I think one big issue for
the Jets that no matter what players they have on
the team, the hardest thing to overcome is Woody. And
I think we have immediately seen that since Woody came
back from wherever the hell he was. It's tough. It's
a difficult individual to have around because we've seen the
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best owners support you with their checkbook and stay out
of your way. It doesn't mean you're going to get
everything right. It doesn't mean that you know your coach
and your general manager are the biggest geniuses in the league.
But for you to have a chance at success, you
have to let them do their job. So the reason
you hired them is the reason you pay both guys
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millions of dollars. And that's just now with the Jets
do they always have, consistently have dumb ideas, And I
think a lot of those dumb ideas stem from the owner,
DeShawn Jackson and Shady McCoy. I'd be lying if I
said it wasn't one of my favorite videos that I've
ever watched. They basically did an hour podcast, the two
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of them talking non stop shit about Chip Kelly. And
they called several people throughout the podcast, Jason Peters, Jeremy Macklin,
Brandon Graham on their phone and put it on the
mic to ask them what they thought of Chip Kelly.
And it was ugly and I would recommend if if
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you want to just be entertained and laugh a little bit,
to turn it on. And I can't speak for Deshaun
as much, but I a lot of dinners when I
worked for the Eagles during the season, me and the
scouts would have and sell it and Shady were there
a lot. I would say there wasn't anyone that didn't
get along with Leshawn McCoy. He's one of the more
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easy going guys to like, he's just kind of a
magnetic personality, and you can tell in this video he's
just He's just an awesome guy to have in your
locker room. And they both despised chip Kelly. Now, obviously
I got fired how he technically called me, But I
got in an argument in a draft meeting with Chip
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Kelly over Matt Barkley, and in my short interactions with him,
it was very short, like i'd be lying if I
have a great feel for him as a person. My
first reaction because I felt like he forced me out.
I don't like him, but it's not because I dealt
with him a lot personally. I know a lot of
people though that spent the next several years around Chip Kelly,
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and I got to say that I second third and
stamp everything those guys say. Every story I ever heard
about the guy was he was a complete douchebag. And
one of the themes of their podcast and this other
players had said this as well, is he really struggled
to talk with the black guys on the team. Listen.
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I knew a lot of scouts that were white guys
that got the same thing, like I think he really
struggles to interact with people, and I think he from
everyone I've ever met, think he's a complete fraud and
that they hammered this. He would say one thing to
your face and do something else behind your back. I've
always thought this, having firsthand knowledge of people I'm very
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close with in the league. He's just a legitimately bad guy.
I just don't think he's a good person. And I've
been around good people in the sport of football. I
worked for two years around Pat Hill, high quality, high
character guy. Obviously, the same thing with Andy Reid, but
there were a lot of guys on that staff, just
good people. Doug Peterson, Sean McDermott. I mean, these guys
went on Todd Bowles, just nice guys, just easy to
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deal with. Jim Kelly was not that guy, and I
think everything they said I said this forever growing up
a UCLA fan. I couldn't believe one that they hired him.
I think he has been one of the biggest con
artists in the sport of football since the Eagles thing ended.
He conned the Niners out of a job, he conned
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Ucla out of a job, and now he's at Ohio State.
Mainly because he got Ryan Day's career started in the
NFL when he hired him with the Eagles. I think
both guys are very, very lucky that Jim Harball left
Michigan and went to the Chargers, because I think if
Jim Harball just would have been like, you know what,
I'm good on the NFL. I'm just gonna stay at
Michigan and build a bully, I think he would have
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ended them. Would have now Ohio State might end up
beating him now, Sharon More, it's going to be, you know,
a drop off obviously with Hardball gone. But I just
think Jim Kelly's a bad guy and I think they
hammered that home. No one trusts him. I just think
he's one of the bigger frauds in the business. And
whatever he did revolutionary, which he did back in Oregon.
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It's twenty twenty four. No one gives a shit the
way here people. I've just never heard a good thing
over the last ten years of anyone that works for him.
And listen, it's football. Tensions are high, people have bad moments,
welcome to life. But the way that he consistently acted
toward people, it's just it's consistently the most negative thing
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that I hear in the sport relative to any other person.
And I'm not one just to say this to say this,
like Brandon Saley, I ripped as a coach. I don't
know him as a guy, like it has nothing personal
like this is personal with Chip Kelly, the way he
treats people. So I'm glad those guys did it because
I've never seen anything like that. Think how long football
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has been going. Think how many players that are out
of the league could do that to different coaches, but
they don't because it'd be basically impossible. It'd be really,
really hard. I mean they easily went for an hour
doing that and getting other guys. And it's not just
like Jeremy Mack super high character normal, well like guy
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Brandon Graham. I mean, it's one of the more famous
Eagles of the last decade. Jason Peters a little bit
of a wild card in his early days, but the best,
as those guys said, the best player on the team
has been playing in the NFL still. I think he
was playing last year. It's like forty two years old.
Everyone likes the guy. They fucking couldn't stand him because
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you know, what they knew, and this is where I
know the race component comes in. But I truly don't
believe it's about that, because if one of his players,
if one of his scouts was on fire in his
front yard, I don't believe Chip Kelly would piss on
him to put him out. I truly believe that to
my core, and I think he's kind of good working.
Some of these media guys listen. I know Colin likes
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him to Joe Klatt always stands by him. I think
he's a complete con artist. So I'm glad that they
put that out, complete fraud, and I wish Hardball would
have stayed one more year so he could kick the
shit out of those two guys. Tangent Tuesday. Just two things.
One I'd be lying. I'm not some huge hockey guy.
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I don't watch regular season hockey. I don't even really
know beside like Connor McGregor most of the good players
in the NHL, I have watched a decent amount of
playoff hockey. It is fantastic. It is like the UFC
meets a puck and an ice rink. The violence, the physicality,
the intensity, it is just a fantastic sport. The level
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of give a shit from every single person, coach and player,
You're on the edge of your seat. I mean, I
basically watched all the Edmonton Vancouver game last night. I
don't have money on these, I have no money on these,
and I was like, this is a fantastic product, and
I get relative to the other major team sports, it's
not as big in America. But if you just like
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competition and you like physicality and violence and just intensity,
playoff hockey is just an awesome sport to watch. And last,
but not least, one thing I just can't quite wrap
my head around. And I see this non stop is
former NBA players and people on TV talking shit about
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Nikola Jokic. That'd be the equivalent of like someone being like,
you know, Patrick Mahomes, He's just I don't see it.
I don't I don't quite understand the hype. If you
just have been watching basketball for five years and you
watch two games of this guy, like, yeah, this is
one of the best players I've ever seen. I've been
watching the NBA for thirty years. He's easily one of
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the most dominant players I've ever seen. And good guy,
not some self promoter champion mvp Z. I don't get it.
I truly don't get it. Is it jealousy? Is it
because he can't jump? I don't understand it. If you
watch a Yokitch game consistently, he's putting up like thirty eight,
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ten and fifteen. He is kicking the shit out of
whoever he is playing. Like it's not even debatable how
good the guy is. And it's not like he's some
overhyped player that always gets bounced in the first round.
He literally won the championship last year and after these
two games, probably gonna win the championship again this year.
But even if he doesn't like he is clearly a
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high level, championship incredible teammate. I just don't understand. Every
time I look on the Internet, Instagram, Twitter, flip on
TV and one of those talking people are talking shit,
It's one of the most baffling things I've ever seen.
I understand they're polarizing players, right, see it with Josh Allen,
see with Lamar James Harden over the years, even Lebron
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before he won a championship. I get it, But like,
once you prove you're the best player on the best team,
what are we discussing, and you just consistently run circles
around everyone. You're the best player in the world. Like,
it's not even debatable if people, I guess are always
gonna hate. I just I can't fathom not enjoying watching
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that guy play slash thinking he's overrated or something. I
can't get it. I think of all the athletes I've
ever watched in my entire life, that's probably the biggest
head scratching take that I consistently see ever. Okay, Middlecoff mailbag,
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you guys know the drill at John Middlecoff at John
Middlecoff is the Instagram fire in those dms. To get
your question answered here on the show, we will start
with Kobe Brown five hundred and ninety four followers. By
the way, not bad, young man. It was like a
firefighter mailbag. Everyone acts like the Bears fleece the Panther
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with the trade last year. I agree, and it looks
like a landslide, especially with how young played last season.
But I believe we still need to consider the fact
they passed on CJ. Stroud. Would you take Stroud over
Caleb Williams. I would take c J. Stroud. So you're
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saying that the Bears passed on c J. Stroud being
number one. I think I would rather have. Like if today,
would you take c J. Stroud or Caleb Williams May thirteenth,
twenty twenty four, you would If you were in the NFL,
you would have to take c J. Stroud. He has
a year body of work. No one can debate that, right,
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you would have to take CJ. Stroud. And I'm high
on Caleb Williams. I think if you told me today,
I could have everything. The Bears got DJ Moore, the
picks and Caleb Williams. I think you would have to
take that because it's not Caleb for CJ. Stroud. It's
Caleb plus DJ Moore plus they sucked another year with
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Justin Fields which led to Roma Dunsa, Right, so there's
there's other stuff that comes along with it. I think
in a vacuum player for player you would take CJ.
Stroud to day, but when you factor in the package,
I would take the risk of Caleb and everything else
still could be wrong, but I think you would have
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to because it was it was a lot. I mean,
they also have their second round pick next year, so
what if the Panthers suck again. What if that pick
is thirty seven, so it's Caleb DJ Moore a second.
I mean it's a lot, man. I think you got
a fact. I hear what you're saying, and you're not wrong.
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But it's not player for player, it's the entire trade.
And I think when you factor in the entire trade
of a no brainer, love the show. Appreciate you, Trent.
My question for the mail bag is, as someone who
worked under him for years, what do you believe separates
Howie as one of the best gms in the league.
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What are some of his unique philosophies he has? Well,
I think one of the most powerful things you can
have in that position is information. Is being information gather
on pro guys, on college players, and on the coaching world.
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And I think nobody uses information better. And Howie is
what I would consider an intellect. He's very bright. So
his ability to make these trades on draft night, he
can just operate on his feet better than I would
just say, quote unquote some football guys. So his intellectual capacity,
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just in terms of maneuverability and understanding the cap because
that's where he started, is just far superre than everyone else.
So he watches tape and he's been doing it now
for twenty plus years. I don't think anyone's gonna, you know,
get him, consider him Bilpollion, right or someone like that.
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But he knows what's good and what's bad. And his
ability to understand contracts and the value of contracts and
then work trades either on the draft or not on
the draft is clearly second to none. So I remember
getting there and I was essentially like his personnel assistant
and being overwhelmed because he was kind of all over
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the map because his brain fires like all of others
do that have like EIGHTYHD here, and it was hard
to keep up on everything. Within a year you kind
of get a hold of. You just got to be
prepared for anything. But I think he's done a very
very good job over the years of hiring. I mean,
they have a really good scouting staff, and he has guys.
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I mean, now he's had Alan Walking forever, who I
consider a friend and who's really good at his job.
He hired Joe Douglass away. I mean when I was there,
we had Veach, Lewis Riddick, Phil Savage, we had a
lot of people. He just always has like and part
of this is Jeffrey giving him the budget, you know,
to higher high high end scouts. He works closely with
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those guys. He works with a contract. I would also
say his capacity to follow everything is pretty impressive. It's
really really difficult. I think, you know, most people just
believe that everyone in the NFL kind of knows everything.
A lot of college scouts have no clue what guys
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in the NFL look like on tape. Like they're not
constantly watching college tape, right, just like a lot of
pro guys aren't super dialed in twenty four to seven
to the college game. There is a small percentage, I
would say, of guys that are all over it all
the time, what's playing in both and then understanding the
value because his job isn't just to get the player right,
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it's to know the value of those guys. And I
think how he's elite at that because he looks at
it from I would say much more of analytical is
the wrong way to put it, but an unemotional like
this is the value on the guy, this is what
we're willing to pay, this is when and he's the
other thing he's got that you have to have in
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the NFL when it comes to players, and actually he
can be very cutthroat and just move off a guy
and pivot on a guy. And I think as he's
gotten older when I you know, since then, obviously he's
got very close emotional ties to their core group of
guys you know, over the years, Kelsey Lane, Johnson, Brandon Graham,
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Fletcher Cox, because he spent so much time around those guys.
And I think the one thing he's really really good at,
because the Eagles have been good at this for a
long time, is knowing what high high end guys look like.
And then I think a characteristic that he balances pretty
well is the character stuff of valuing character. I think
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they do a good job of that now. I mean,
look at the two guys they took, but also knowing
that like to win in the NFL, you gotta take
some you gotta take some chances, and sometimes you gotta
put your balls on the table like he did with
Jalen Carter. And let's face it, like some of the
gms in the league, which I don't blame them, like
I don't blame Atlanta or Detroit, like it was pretty risky,
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but maybe Atlanta would have benefited from taking him over
Bjon Robinson, but they didn't. They didn't do it, you know,
and how his team was much more equipped to handle
him because of the Georgia guys. I doesn't think he'll change,
you know, He's smart. People change, right, Like philosophically, when
it comes to business, you have a belief and then
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the world changes and you gotta pivot. If you don't,
you're gonna get lapped and you're gonna be one of
those people in five or ten years complaining about it.
I've always thought, like my moral compass in what I
believe in, like when it comes to society, honestly hasn't
really changed in thirty years, like how to treat people,
how to act when it comes to dealing with older people,
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when it comes to dealing with people professionally, like I've
kind of been taught that by my parents since I
was I don't know, ten, fifteen years old. But when
it comes to the way I look at money and
the industry I'm in constantly changes and it constantly adapts,
and I think anyone professionally has to be willing to
do that. And I think no one is better than
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pivoting when they have to pivot than how he Now,
he's intense. He you know, he's he's on and he'd
be the first to tell you that all the time.
Like he is not some guy chilling with his feet up,
fucking around like it's it's an intense environment, which is
very I would say symbolic of the city he's in.
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It's not an easy place to work. But even when
they're I would say even more so when they're having success,
he's just he's an intense guy. And it was It
was an incredible experience for me just to see something
that I never would have got to see in terms
of being around someone who is I would say, is driven,
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intellectually driven and thinks just kind of differently than everyone else.
But also it's it's football, so I mean, how different
can you be? Like everyone wants good players, but there's
no like, hey, we're cool, now, we're good. Roster's good
Like the Eagles. A day you look at their roster,
it's pretty good, I'll promise you. Internally, they're not just
hanging out like we're set. Let's just let's just kind
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of mail it in till summer break. Like no, it
is a high stress environment once I left the Eagles
is like, fuck, I can't do anything. Put me in
the boiler room. I'll be good to go. Where's Ben Affleck?
I'm ready to rock. With NIL deals becoming the next
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method of recruiting players, do you think the once upon
a time colleges will start to compete again for national
championships or even make it into the playoffs. Think of Nebraska,
who is big time money and a massive following, but
hasn't had success in twenty plus years. They did go
to the conference championship in Nadama consus here back in
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the nineties, Nebraska was always the top program and even
receive back to back national championships. Could nil bring them
back to obscurity? Well, I think a program like that.
Let's use them as an example because obviously you did.
They're in the Big Ten, so they're competing against You
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could argue that Ohio State. I guess Texas, maybe A
and M, but Ohio State can compete with anyone. Financially.
I think they cut ten million dollars worth of checks
to get the top transfer guys this offseason. So that's
like the equivalent of going up against like Appler, Google,
So like they have more money than you, and because
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of their success, they're unwilling or they're not unwilling to
like ever, they don't even ask questions like do you
need this guy, let's do it, you need this coach,
let's do it. You need this player? How much he cost?
And then you get Michigan. Now with their most recent success,
they're even going to be more aggressive. You add Oregon,
who has a massive war chest of money, usc same thing.
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How can you compete against them? Well, the only way
because you're not gonna be able to buy players like
them consistently. I know you got Riola and reports are
that you gave him millions of dollars his dad played there.
Like if Riola's dad had played at Florida or at
Utah or at Oregon, would he be at Nebraska? Probably
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not someone else. They would have accepted someone else's money.
And I don't blame them for being aggressive with a
guy just because they had a connection, But on the whole,
you're not gonna get that level of talent, so you
need to shorten the gap with the coach. The reason
Utah these last like five years has been so freaking competitive,
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they're not gonna have the nil money of USC, Oregon
or Washington. They're just not. But their coach is elite.
So if Matt Rule is a high end college football coach,
you can make the playoffs. And if Riola hits, If
Riola hits, and Rule is everything we build him to
be as a college coach, you're gonna be good. I
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don't think you're gonna be Ohio State, LSU, Bama, Georgia,
what Texas is gonna Texas is gonna benefit the most
from this money, Oregon. But can you be like the
ninth seed and win a playoff game which would be
a massive, massive success. Hell yeah, I grew up on
Tommy Frazier and Lawrence Phillips, those teams. Those late You're
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like ninety five ninety six Nebraska teams. The shit huge
Chiefs fan here and Rashid Rice news has been a
huge kick in the you know what to this offseason.
I know you can't monitor their players twenty four to seven,
but what can teams do to try and make sure
this stuff doesn't happen? Is there some kind of mentoring
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or advisement teams offer, especially with these young guys who
become rich very quickly. These teams invest so much money
in the league as a whole to mentor to talk
to these players. Think about the money the Chiefs have
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invested in guys like Mahomes and Kelsey and Justin Reid
and those type guys on their team that are around
these type guys every day during the season, telling them
how to act, what to do right, how to be
a pro, what to avoid. Eventually, in the real world,
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you can't hold everyone's hand, and once the offseason starts,
because of the CBA agreement, he's free to do whatever
the fuck he wants. So you don't think that the team,
the players, like they talk about this stuff NonStop. But
once it's February, March, April, May until voluntary OTAs, now
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Rice can come back. I think the Chiefs told him
not to come back, you know, to get a stuff
in order. But like, what could they have done when
he's got seven eight buddies, they're all drunk and high
and they're renting Lamborghinis, Like he has the funds to
do that. It's a maturity thing. Now. They also know
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what they were getting when they drafted the guy. He
had red flags coming out of college. Obviously, when he's
around the team, no issues. And in college you're around
the team eleven and a half months a year, you're
never out of their sight, and the pros you're not.
This is the big leagues. You're grown up with lots
of money now, so you either understand the opportunity you
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have or you potentially throw it away, like it looks
like this guy's doing because he has the incident where
he leaves the scene, which he doesn't take you know,
a rocket scientist to figure out. Why do you think
he left the scene. Why do you think It's not
very hard to figure out, which, for his sake, probably
the you know, in a weird way. Thank god no
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one got injured. Right thing to do, because it would
have been way worse. And then this issue with hitting
someone at a club, like it does show you when
you deal with immature individuals. I hate tell him like,
you shouldn't be party, and you shouldn't be this, do
whatever the hell you want to do. This is America.
I've never been into telling others what to do at
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any point in time in my adult life. But like,
once you get in trouble with the the hit and
run situation, shouldn't you probably lay low I'm not saying
you can't hang out with some buddies, shouldn't be at
the club, because let's face it, once you start consistently
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going out after that incident, you become even more of
a target. And for you to have an altercation after
that situation, like there's a line of you know, immaturity,
got some stuff to work on it, and you're just
a fucking moron and you're becoming a major headache. The
problem is in pro sports, he is talented, and when
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your talent outweighs your problems, you figure out ways to
get around it. You could argue at this point in time,
his talent and his problems are starting to see ey'd eye,
not like this guy's Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, ain't Tyreek Hill,
good young player, winning player. But those two incidents in
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a short period of time for a team that plans
on winning the Super Bowl every year, full of high
character superstars, I just think you get to a point
like you just can't hold their hand. You can't mandate
that they stay in Kansas City. You can't mandate this
is a business, like there are unions involved. And here's
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the thing. Most guys can handle themselves and listen, we're
all gonna make a mistake as a young person if
we got a lot of money and we're drinking, Like, yeah,
you're gonna do some things you regret. But there's a
fine line of you know, I wish I could have
the last night back and the things that he's doing,
but there's only so much Andy Reid the Chiefs can do.
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I'm a Bears fan living in the Carolinas, creating quite
an interesting dynamic these days when I hit up local
sports bars. Haven't heard you address the fields at kick
returner rumors? I still root for fields from Afar for
the remainder of his career. Is there any legitimacy to
the dynamic ball carrying quarterbacks frequently serving the returnal role
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given the approved kickoff formation. I talked about it yesterday
on the mailbag. I saw Sean Payton discussing how explosive
this new kickoff rule is gonna be, Like there are
gonna be fireworks, there are gonna be a lot of touchdowns.
And if you just think at it from a basic
football standpoint, like why do most runs not go for
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fifty sixty seventy yards? It's really twofold. Most running backs
don't have elite high end speed, so they can't run
away from people like a Tyreek kill. But you also
have defenders on every level, and unlike a pass where
if I throw a go route, if he doesn't have
safety help, it's basically a one on one situation. If
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that guy falls, if that guy misjudges his jump, whatever,
It's very easy for big explosive plays to happen on
pass plays. In the run game, there's a reason an
eight or ten yard run is considered a long run
cause you have to go by two levels of the defense.
You get the defensive line the line of scrimmage, and
then you have two to three and a half depending
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on how you play, the safety linebackers, and you got
to get by those guys. For the defensive guys a
safety or a corner to make the tackle and for
you to have a long, long run, you basically now
it might be to a left or right so you're
not taken out, you know, running by the entire team,
but you're running by a lot of guys. They're getting blocked,
(53:24):
you're avoiding them. This new kickoff return, if you hit
a hole, you're like once you get past the defensive guys,
you're gone. I wonder if some of these teams, you know,
the guys are all lined up on the on whatever
the yard line is, you know, five yards apart, if
you wouldn't have two or three guys immediately drop back,
(53:48):
you know, basically turn into like a safety and backpedal.
So if there is a situation where the guy breaks out,
because if he misses the first line of defense, if
everyone's going forward, he's gone. So when that rumor about
justin fields, it wasn't a rumor that Jalen Warrens said
it on Cam Hayward's podcast Multiple time guests of this show,
(54:11):
Cam Hayward, that is Walter Payton Man of the Year.
So they brought it up, and I thought, well, it
sounds a little crazy, But when you factor in fields,
his skill set, elite speed in the open field, well,
what if he misses that first line of defense, he'd
be gone. Kicker ain't making that tackle in the open field.
So I do wonder if there's a little validity to it.
(54:31):
Now there's the element of he's your backup quarterback. If
Russell got hurt. What if he got hurt on that play?
So I'm not expecting it, and isn't Cordell Patterson now
on the Steelers, But that play is gonna be fascinating.
We're gonna get legit fireworks. Was wondering if you've ever
watched Australian Football AFL before, love to hear your take.
(54:55):
You know, I have not. Is that considered rugby or
is that considered football? Or is that soccer? I don't know, Yeah,
I have not. Gonna want to get it in the mailbag,
low the pod, especially random moments of life advice, and
my question is gonna be about today. I'm twenty three,
just graduated college in December, and currently making about forty
(55:17):
thousand dollars a year in my lab position. I don't
have any real responsibilities yet beyond rent and my pets.
The job is cool and holds me over, but beyond money,
I feel really no purpose in trying to move up
in this field. I've started making food content recently and
I'm starting to get a bit of traction there. What's
(55:38):
a good point to dive headfirst into the passionate work
and throw the responsible moves out the window. Also bring
back share it with your friends, share it with your enemies. Uh,
I would say, you're twenty three years old, so your
food content if it I'm just gonna assume even if
you're getting traction in terms of people watching, if you're
(55:59):
not making any money on that, it would be hard
to just go all in on that immediately, Like you
do need to pay for rent. I would try to
find a way with your current job to spend even
more time doing what you're doing, which might entail some sacrifice,
doing it at night, doing it on the weekends, and
(56:21):
over a twelve month period, see if you can build
it up where it's like, yeah, I might be able
to make some money on doing this before you just
jump in. So basically, treat like you have two jobs,
which is a lot of time. But if you just
quit your job and do this, it can be discouraging.
(56:43):
If you're not making any money, then all of a sudden,
you're in a position where you're backs against the wall.
So can you do the job you're doing If you're
going through the motions and just work on your other
kind of side project in your head the majority of
time and when you're at home or on the weekends
or whenever your free time is just double down on that.
(57:06):
And then the moment that if you're able to generate
enough money where it's like, ah, I might be able
to at least just survive off this, quit the other job,
and go all in. But now you could take just
jump into the deep end, just quit and put all
your chips on the table. But you could be in
a position where if you don't have any help from anybody,
(57:27):
you can't pay rent or don't have any food. So
if you just need to survive in the short term,
use the job you currently have to survive, and put
all your effort and energy into your passion. Because I
was actually at dinner with some of my girl's friends
and this one girl who it just crushes it, I guess,
(57:49):
I mean, makes hundreds of thousands of dollars at her job.
She's kind of bored, doesn't even like it, but she's
good at it and she makes a lot of money,
but her passion is something else. And all throughout dinner
she kept talking about what she loves to do, which
she was a big foodie and she wanted to open
(58:09):
a restaurant and she's just so into it, and I
kind of said it, but also, it's not really my place.
I don't know these people like, why don't you just
do it? And she was in a position where she
had enough save, like she could easily just go all in,
and she's You get to a point and she's this
girl's probably in her early thirties. You start making enough
(58:29):
money in a profession that you don't care about that much,
they kind of get you with the I don't know
if it's quite golden handcuffs, because she's not making millions,
but she's making enough where it's hard to leave that job.
And then all of a sudden she'd go another ten
twenty years and never make that plunge, and all of
a sudden, the thing she loves most she never tried.
Where she's in the position now like you could kind
(58:51):
of do it right now. And I just see some
of these people that get too far past and never
give what they really wanted to do a try. And
I've been very fortunate that I just did it from
the jump right. But I didn't make any money I made.
I made none in my twenties enough to survive eat.
But I never made more than fifty thousand dollars before
(59:15):
I was thirty years old. Some years wasn't even close,
and the equivalent of that would probably be like sixty
seventy now, you know in bigger cities where you know
you barely heads above water. Now I was single, it
didn't have any responsibilities, but I didn't have any other
options because I knew that one I didn't, I couldn't.
(59:35):
I don't have the energy to do something I don't like.
And I knew that really early on in life. It's
probably the one of my greatest qualities. When I don't
have any energy to do it, I don't care how
much money. I just won't be interested and I just
won't pay attention. I actually knew that from school. Like
I never paid attention in school. It bored me, so
you just It's why my advice always is, when you
(59:57):
like something and are passionate about it, it's so much
easier to work. It's what I mean. I was thinking
when she was talking about how she was hesitant to
make the plunge. I'm like, you don't understand. It'll be
so much easier for you to work a seventy eighty
hour week doing what you love because it won't feel
like work. Now. Eventually, I always say, work no matter
(01:00:18):
how much you love it feels like work because it
just becomes part of your routine. But early on, when
you have to grind the hardest, it's easier to go
above and beyond for less money when you love what
you're doing. And I think it gets very very difficult
for people to transition because the longer you go, maybe
(01:00:40):
the more money you get, the more responsibilities you have,
you get married, you have children, you buy a house,
you just it's harder to pivot. And most people are
not just like free wheeling unscared when it comes to
certain things. The majority of people are hesitant, So you
gotta It's why any young person that hits me, and
(01:01:01):
I've tried to respond to a lot of you guys,
it's so much easier to try things and take big
swings and do things that you like doing when you're young,
because if you want to make the transition as you
get older, it's very very hard to pivot when you
got two kids and you're dependent on the money and
your mortgage just kind of big, and you know you
got a country club membership, or you got a couple
(01:01:21):
of car payments or whatever's going on. You want to
send your kids at private school, like real life responsibility.
I want to apologize for the long winded DM. I
also have two questions I would like to run by you.
I've been listening to Colin for years and I've enjoyed
hearing your appearances. When I stumbled upon your podcast, I
(01:01:43):
instantly fell in love. Anyway, here's my question. I'm from
the Bay Area in northern California. Grew up Aniner fan,
but fell in love with Alex Smith's quarterback skills and
I followed him to the Chiefs and I have been
a Chiefs fan ever since. At first, I was excited
about the Xavier Worthy pick, but after listening to various
sport shows, I'm hearing he has struggled with drops. I
(01:02:05):
think he broke his hand so he played through like
the injury after last year struggles with the wide receiver
room of dropping balls. Should we be concerned about this
being an issue worthy or do you believe Andy will
be able to fix it. I heard someone say his
drop rate relative to the other receivers was actually one
(01:02:27):
of the best. I would not be that worried. I
think they feel pretty confident. I know for a fact
because I was texting the room after they took it.
I think they liked this guy a lot, and they
see a similar skill set, not in Tyreek but in DeShawn,
so I would be excited. I began playing golf with
(01:02:49):
my dad a few years ago. We now play golf
every week together, sometimes multiple times a week if we can.
Sounds like you two are living well. I recently have
been struggling with making consistent contact with my driver off
the tee. I've been playing with the idea of entering
a local tournament, but I won't feel confident until I
get this part of my game fixed. Do you have
any tips for suggestions for making constant good contact. If
(01:03:13):
I knew how to make consistent good contact with the driver,
I would retire from this podcast, start a YouTube channel,
and be a multimillionaire. So no, I think, welcome to golf.
It's by far something every human being, even the pros,
all have in common struggling off the tea. Now. Luckily
(01:03:38):
with the equipment modern day equipment, it's never been easier
when you hit it well. But let's face it, we
all want to swing a little harder with our driver.
Then all of a sudden, you know you're in a
bush with three rattlesnakes and a tree is hanging over you.
It's like, good luck getting out of there, big fan question,
does to us stare down as primary target, the worst
(01:03:58):
you've ever seen? Some surprise he doesn't have more interceptions? Well,
they have pretty elite receivers. I mean Tyreek's, I mean
one of the greatest receivers I've ever seen in my
NFL watching life for thirty plus years. And Waddle is
a young star. So and their offensive coordinator is elite.
(01:04:21):
I think two. His downfall, honestly, is pretty simple. He
has an average arm. He's a warm weather quarterback. He's
just gonna struggle in the cold. He's just gonna struggle
in the cold. And he's not very mobile. So he's
a small pocket quarterback who's not a very good athlete
relative to NFL quarterbacks. He's much closer like Jared Goff
(01:04:42):
movement wise than he is Mahomes. But Jared Goff's got
him by several inches and can see over the offensive line.
Like it's kind of short. I feel like I'm a hater.
I like the guy, I admire him as a person,
just when it comes to paying quarterbacks top dollars, I
just I couldn't do it. But it's like, I'm not
(01:05:04):
rooting against the guy. I just think his skill set
in that conference in cold weather cities, which the AFC
is full of, Kansas City, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Buffalo,
I mean, how fuck you beating those teams? Hit? You're
not okay when on this mail bag. The physicality comparison
(01:05:30):
for the NBA and NFL is like boxing in UFC.
Once a boxer gets smacked with a leg kick, they
will crumble and start crying immediately because they are just
not hit like that, not calloused up like that. When
an NBA player gets hit sticked in the middle of
the field, they will walk out of the stadium, not
(01:05:51):
even the sideline, far away from the action if they
could even walk. The dumbest part about the rum is
no one with a brain would argue that they don't
have NFL athletes or if guys just quit playing basketball tomorrow,
(01:06:11):
a large percentage of the league NFL teams wouldn't work out,
and there would be some NFL teams would immediately sign.
If Zion Williamson just said I'm done with the NBA,
I quit I want to play football, every team in
the league would try to sign Zion to like the
equivalent of a you know, a future practice squad, bare
(01:06:32):
minimum contract, and then he would eventually have to play football.
He has the athleticism and the strength and the explosion,
but could he play tyrese MAXI. I mean you go
around the league, there're a lot could they play every
single day in practice, let alone in the games football?
This is not basketball. You don't just play games like
(01:06:54):
you know Lebron's teams, they don't practice. They just hoop baseball.
You just show up and play every day. The NFL
is the opposite. Monday, come in for film, get a workout,
get your rehab, Tuesday, off day, Wednesday, show up, team
meetings seven forty five or eight, then the meetings, then
to walk through, then to lunch, then to practice. Maybe
(01:07:16):
you practice in the morning. These are paths. Thursday, you
do it again, Friday, you do it again. Saturday, if
it's on the road, show up early, breakfast, meetings, walk
through playing, get their meetings, walk through meetings, night, wake up,
(01:07:36):
go play. You play once a week. So I just
think the mentality of basketball, guys, it just it's impossible
to even you don't just get to show up and
play like in basketball or baseball. That's not how it works.
(01:07:57):
You basically practice all off sea, then all training camp
to just get ready for week one spring training. They
have like three days of practice and they start playing games.
They basically play games for nine months or eight months
or whatever. Basketball, same thing. A couple of practices, then
you start playing games and you're just off. Football is
(01:08:20):
all about practice, and then, like you said, the physicality,
you can say, oh, the games, it's way different than
the eighties and the set we had is have Fred
Warner hit, you have Miles Garrett hit. You have Jalen
(01:08:40):
Ramsey tackle you in the open field, have Jalen Carter
chase you down. Say that feels that's one play, got
fifty more buckle up. Just it's it's not as simple.
Well it's like I can just play. It's not how
(01:09:01):
football works. It's by far the most complex game. Let's
face it, Basketball is not that complex. Neither's baseball. Relative
to football, which is all about practice, practice, prating, putting plays,
putting plays, I'm not even factoring in. Then you've got
to mentally and physically be able to handle it. In basketball,
like do we run picking rolls or we weren't run motions?
Where's my screen coming? Football? There's like seven checks of
(01:09:24):
the line of scrimmage in the NFL. Could they even
handle it? Some of these guys would be overwhelmed. Football
guys are overwhelmed. It's just it was an exhausting conversation.
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