November 28, 2023 • 43 mins
Colin says it's officially time for the Bears to look at their options for a new franchise QB as it appears Justin Fields is not the savior they hoped for. He discusses Deion Sanders' first season at Colorado and why he's starting to realize the challenges of building a contender in today's college football landscape. He unveils his Herd Hierarchy after week 12 of the NFL season. Colin also officially presents the WORST loss of the NBA season thus far
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Oh here we going to busy Tuesday. Who knows what
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As always, Jamak, you can say a lot of things
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and argue for a lot of things, but sometimes reality
hit your right square between the eyes in Chicago.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Indeed it does.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Hey, By the way, reality both of us had the
bears last night. I even sit sprinkle a little on
the money line. How about a baby we gave up
the I'm not sure I had the bears.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
You didn't have bears last night. I know, I coward,
what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Vikings? All right, here we go, Justin Fields. It's over.
The first sign you don't have a franchise quarterback. Your
defense gets four interceptions and you can't manufacture a single touchdown.
The second sign, your offensive coordinator doesn't want you to
throw the ball down the field. Thirty three starts. If
you went to a stand up comedian for thirty three
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minutes and didn't laugh, he's not funny. You can keep
blaming everybody else. Great, he's athletic. I would watch him
if he went to Atlanta. I'd move him to Atlanta,
get a third round pick. He'd be fun Bijon Drake London,
Kyle Pitts, the Chicago Thing's over top. Franchise quarterbacks do
two or three things really well. They see the field,
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process quickly and accurately deliver the ball. I don't see it.
We've got thirty three starts. He's not good enough to
pass on a much better college prospect who doesn't turn
the ball over a lot, Caleb Williams. Justin Fields has
thirty five fumbles and thirty five games, a passer rating
in the low eighties, a completion percentage barely above sixty.
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Caleb Williams is a better prospect. You'll be able to start,
restart the rookie salary clock, and it'll put a new
energy in the building.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
C J.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Stroud Game one, with four backups on the offensive line
in no run game, the Texan staff let him sling
the ball all over the field thirty three starts, and
this offense, they don't want him to throw the ball
down the field. Fifteen of his twenty seven completions were
at or behind the line of scrimmage. And I know
you think you know more than the coaches, but what
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coaches allow players to do not just quarterbacks, tight ends, corners, safeties.
What they allow them to do is what they see
them incapable or not doing in practice. This right like,
don't do that, don't do that. So by the time
you get to a game, the coaches allow you to
do certain things that they see you can produce consistently
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in practice. Again, Houston coaches c J. Stroud first game
throwing it all over the field thirty three starts for
justin fields. They won't let him throw it down the field.
There was one completion over twenty yards and that was
at the end of the game when the Chicago coaches
had no choice. And by the way, he's got DJ
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Moore a number one receiver. He's opened a lot downfield.
So when you have to consider going to a third coach,
probably not the coaching. The common denominator in Chicago is
justin Fields. Remember y'all banged on Matt Mitch Trubisky. I
was never a Trubisky fan. I didn't like the draft pick.
I was never a fan, but he went to the
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playoffs twice. Aaron Rodgers was in his prime in Green
Bay at Stafford was still in Detroit. The division is
wide open now. Mitch Trubisky, who nobody in Chicago gave,
you know, a second thought as a franchise guy. They
weren't into it. He went eleven and three first year
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with Matt Naggi. You want to know the one year
justin fields at Matt Naggie two and eight, but kind
of a swing. And I'm not a fan at Trubisky.
I would have moved off Trubisky early. But Aaron was
in his prime. Stafford was close to his prime, and
he got to the playoffs twice. Nobody defended Trubisky. It's
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over again. We've got thirty three starts right now. He's auditioning. Yes,
he's athletic. Yeah, he seems like a nice kid. Trubisky
was a nice kid, and yeah, this organization doesn't do
a great job to draft and develop quarterbacks. I agree
with all that stuff, but Caleb Williams is a better prospect.
You start the rookie salary clock, it's a new energy
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in the building. And Caleb, for the record, doesn't turn
the ball over much, all right, and he's been running
for his life for the last two years too, So
it happens over fifty percent of the first round quarterbacks
don't make it. It's okay. He's athletic enough to get
a second opportunity. I'd love to see him play in Atlanta.
Offensive coach Bijan Kyle pitch Drake London. I'd watch better
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Old Line than the Bears. I think i'd watch. It's fun,
it's different, but I don't think Justin Field is to
hoist the trophy guy. And maybe there's only seven of
those guys on the planet. But like this capitulation over, well,
he could. He did thirty three starts. He completes about
sixty percent of his throws low passer rating, a lot
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of fumbles. I mean, nice kid, but four interceptions, no touchdowns.
He's got a number one receiver, good tight ends. The
on line's not as awful as everybody claims. Capable running backs.
The coaches won't let him throw the ball down the field.
Here's justin after.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
We haven't let you know our record defind who we are.
We know who we are as a team. You know,
we know what we're capable of, and it's really just
going out there and doing it, going out there, executing
and finishing the way we know how the way we
did tonight, and really just cleaning up the mistakes because
you know, if you clean up my two fumbles were
probably not even in that situation.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Thirty five fumbles and thirty five games he fumbles. That's
the reality this league is about. Can you see the
field delivered accurately, don't turn it over and win games
and stay healthy. He's not checking a lot of boxes.
It's time, Okay. This story is interesting. Dion Sanders loses
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three commitments after taking a shot at the ncublea's recruiting policy.
So you know, Dion loved recruiting when all the guys
were coming to him, but when some started leaving, he
said to the NC double A, it's not fair. Once
you commit, you shouldn't be flirting around talking to other schools.
So first of all, let's start with this. Dion Sanders
is realizing what all Colorado football coaches eventually realize. It's
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hard to build a great roster in Boulder. The athletic
department doesn't have a lot of money and support, and
the state does not provide a lot of great high
school football players. It was very fun to watch early,
but Colorado finished four and eight, one in eight in
the Pac twelve and blew a twenty nine to zero
lead against awful Stanford. You guys are banging on Lincoln Riley.
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Deon Sanders didn't win enough. But I will say this
in support of him. I thought September Dion Colorado was great.
It was new, it was fresh, it was fun. I
don't regret for a second leaning into it. I like
new stuff. They were the most watched team in college
football for five weeks. They were a little bit like
a TikTok trend wild for about twenty four hours, and
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then they fade into irrelevance. But that's Okay, you're on
TikTok two Colorado football. Eventually all coaches discover this is
Colorado football. That's why if you go back to the
nineteen sixties and the nineteen seventies, the top twenty programs
then are most of the top twenty programs.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
It's a state that doesn't provide a lot of players,
and you have to convince him to leave Texas in
California and come to the mountains. It's hard. A lot
of people I find are rooting against Dion Sanders. He's different.
He brags a lot. To me, a little showy, I
get it. But to me. Nick Saban lost to Louisiana
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Monroe in his first year at Alabama. This stuff is hard.
Dabo Sweeney at powerhouse Clemson, surrounded by great high school
talent in the surrounding states, has had ten plus wins
in twelve straight years until this year. He dips a little.
Dude's got two natties and a big chunk of fan
base is furious with him. That's college football. Ryan Day's
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record in the Big Ten is forty one and three.
Half the fan base wants him out. Society is filled
with people on the sidelines taking shots at successful people.
It's so easy, you know it's not. It's hard. Nick
Saban built a powerhouse. They weren't winning back to back.
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It's hard. Nil transfer portals made it even harder. It's
easy to sit on the sidelines and take shots at
Dion Sanders. But September, Dion, September Colorado was a lot
of fun. I thought they'd get dragged by TCU, and
they went to Texas and blew them out. But Dion
is realizing the realities of college football. Brian Kelly is
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an excellent coach. Half the fan base wants him gone.
Ryan Day is an excellent coach. Deabo Sweeney's an excellent coach.
Nobody's ever happy. Mario Cristobal is at a better program
than Dion. He's five hundred after two years at Miami.
Nebraska is a better program than Colorado. Matt Ruhle went
five and seven. September. We all got a little over
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our skis. We got into the hype. It's okay. You
fall in love with a lot of things. People, teams, players, businesses, opportunities.
It's okay. Go ahead, be grumpy, never fall in love
with anything. September football for Dion was a blast. I
loved it. I thought it was crazy, surprise the heck
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out of me. But then reality set in. The Colorado
players de committing. So what players d commit from Nick Saban,
Ryan Day, Dabo Sweeney, Lincoln Riley. Players d commit all
the time. Players have never been more empowered. What I
find with Dion is a lot of people are just
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rooting against him. And you're all experts. Now, I told
you it was hype, So what if it was. Sometimes
hype is fun, That's okay. We all fall for something
at some time in our lives. I'm rooting for Dion,
but it is Colorado football. Let's temper our enthusiasm. If
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he gets them to a five hundred program, that's pretty
good for Colorado football. When he first got hired, I
thought it was weird. A day later made some calls, thought, oh,
he'll get attention. That part you can't deny. None of
us have ever discussed Colorado football more than now. And
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that's part of building a losing program into an occasional
winning program. Getting attention. J Mack, we got a lot
of things going on. I am supporting people who get
dragged by the media today. I want to support Mike
McCarthy again today.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Get dragged. He's got a great team. Can I give
you two teams for Justin Fields for next year?
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Atlanta's got to be one.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
No, Atlanta's not one.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
They have Ritter and Heineke who they like, and they
just drafted her. Bear with me for two quick ones.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Brian Dable had.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
A lot of success with Josh Allen and Mobile Quarterback
had some success with Daniel Jones. Okay, we know Tyrod
Taylor's a free agent. DeVito's not the guy Daniel Jones
coming off the injury. Does Dabolls say, give me, let
me try to reform Justin Fields. Have a Fields versus
Daniel Jones showdown in the preseason for the job.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
We'll see what happens. I think Fields would be a
capable backup in New York, maybe the starter.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
I think that's very interesting.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Okay, Now the second one is a little distier kind
of workshop.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
This last night.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Works. Okay, Gilly, let's go.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
I know that he loves Drew Locke a lot. I
know he loves Drew Lock. Nobody else does. We've seen
the max of Gino Smith last year.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Now, Water's finding its level. He's starting to They got
a good team. Gino Smith has not played well. Does
Justin Fields have a chance.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
To start in Seattle? Could he beat out Jenale Smith?
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Now I know Pete Carroll well enough. There's one thing
that drives Pete Carroll crazy turnovers. And I mean I've
never met a coach who is tougher on players who
fumble and throw interceptions. Justin Field is a bad fit
for Pete Carroll. The Brian Dabele one is fascinating.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Here's an ultra safe one for you.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
His agent goes to Justin Fields and says, listen, Justin
you need to grow up a little.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
You need to mature.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
You need to be in a good organization where you're
going to hold the clipboard for a year or two
and go sit.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Behind Jalen Hurts in Philadelphia for a year or two.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Learn how to be a professional, carry a briefcase to work,
meet with the media, shoulders up broadcasts, speaking confidently.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah, like you need to be a professional, go sit
behind Jalen.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
And also, yeah, that's not a terrible idea. The Pete
Carroll one does not work for me. I just know
what I know Pete, and I know what he's into
and running backs at fumble and quarterbacks that turn it over.
I mean Russell Wilson didn't turn it over much, and
when he did, Pete would mention it at every press conference.
So it doesn't work in Cigah. The Brian Dable one
in the Philadelphia one is very interesting because we know
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Justin's talented enough to get a second look. I would say,
see everybody's banging on Atlanta and Arthur Smith. I never
watch it and think, man, they're under coached. I think
they're under talented, too young in key spots. But I
think Arthur Smith bijon Justin Fields better online than people
get Drake London. That's interesting. That gets me to a television.
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It's interesting. I would watch that. I think Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Several spots around the league like.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Oh, he's gonna get another chance.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
I think he's gonna have a good market. I know
people don't like him, but he's gonna have Like the Raiders, what.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Are they doing? What to Shrane Lance got a number
four pick. Justin Fields can get you too. Absolutely again,
I'm not rooting against him, but Mitch Trubisky with Aaron
Rodgers in his prime and Matt Stafford close to it,
got to the playoffs twice. You gotta win games in
this league. I don't want to hear about any win games.
Throw the ball down the field.
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All right, welcome back at a Tuesday Herd Hierarchy. Forty
minutes from now, top ten teams. In the end, we
will have a surprise visitor into our top ten teams.
J Mack's not gonna love it, but it's the reality
of it. We got that coming up in forty minutes.
So Dak Prescott and the Cowboys play this Thursday on
Amazon Prime. They place Seattle. They're a huge favorite. Truth
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is at home. They've been a great home team. I'd
probably take Dallas, even though the number is big. Dallas
blows out the teams they should, and that's where Dak
and Mike McCarthy deserve credit. Many people think I'm anti Cowboy.
No I'm not. I don't buy into the hype of Dak,
but he's a very good quarterback. He's had a redeemable career.
He's a B plus quarterback who has a nights. He's
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a very good player, great intangibles. Don't love his arm.
Don't think he's as athletic as it's been portrayed through
the years. You know what I mean? I said, I
think he's a slightly better than Kirk Cousins. And everybody's
always banging on Kirk Cousins, and everybody gets mad when
you bang on Dak. They're kind of the same guy
if I look at their numbers. But he's having the
best year I've ever seen. He's setting all sorts of
highs and completion percentage and passer rating. The CD LAMB
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connection is real five or six connection in the NFL.
So let's be honest about it. And Dak talked about
this season.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
I'm about one goal and it's a big team goal.
And I know if my name's in there that means
we're playing well. So that's that's great. But what I
say to myself is I haven't done.
Speaker 7 (16:18):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
It's regular season numbers are great, we're getting wins well,
that's what's most important. At the end of the day.
We're trying to stack and keep growing this team to
make sure that we're getting better each.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
And every week.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
By the way, he's a little tough on himself. He
again has had a very good career. Okay, seventy percent
quarterbacks in the first round, don't make it. He's a
fourth round quarterback. He's been a really good quarterback. Great,
not necessarily in my opinion, but good to very good. Absolutely,
he's a grown up, knows the position, gets the position.
But it should be noted this is the best DAK
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ever and it's with Mike McCarthy. Farv Rodgers, Dak have
all had great times in years with Mike McCarthy. For
God's sakes, Cooper Rush was five and one with Mike McCarthy.
The knock on McCarthy and I think the criticism is fair.
Clock management late in games is not great. Late game
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play calling is not great. Yeah, join the club. That's
what people said about Andy Reid in Philly. Sean McVay
still gets dragged about that, and Kyle Shanahan lost a
twenty eight to three lead in the Super Bowl with
very sketchy play calling. John Harbaugh this weekend a great
coach dragged for late game decisions. It's what most coaches
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struggle with. My guess is because it's hard. It should
be noted that Aaron Rodgers post Mike McCarthy get that
bomb out of town. Aaron had a two to three
playoff record. Aaron Rodgers with Mike McCarthy had a nine
to eight playoff record and a Super Bowl. Maybe it
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isn't Mike Dallas destroys the teams they should. We all
love Dan Campbell. They laid an egg at home against
inferior Green Bay this weekend. Dallas kicks that, you know what,
out of every average team they play. I've been critical
of Mike McCarthy, but he can coach. Doesn't have to
be my favorite coach, but he can coach. I've seen
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him win with Farv Rogers, and Dak arguments the last
two had their best years with him. Dak's the best
he's ever been, and he doesn't have as good an
O line as he did his rookie year. He's only
got one receiver, not a ton of tight end production,
has a running back that's a two not a one.
And Philadelphia maybe the best team in the league. And
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he's got to play them twice and outplayed him the
last time they met, though lost. We got to be
fair about this stuff. Dak's having a great year and
Dallas crushes the teams they should a lot of the
teams that we fall in love with in this league.
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Sometimes the simplest answer is the right answer. Justin Fields
to Atlanta feels like a shot. I would that's I
would ask yourself this, which one would you watch? Oh,
I'd go watch that bijon Justin Fields, Kyle Pitts Drake London,
but offensive coach. I would go watch Atlanta. I wouldn't
bet him because I've lost him so much money in
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my life betting the Atlanta Falcons, but I would watch that.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
The promise Arthur Smith has two turnover Prome quarterbacks, is
he what a third one?
Speaker 1 (19:33):
That's a fair point.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
They don't want a guy who throw it. They want
a guy who's safe handed.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
They would rather have like Andy Dalton as their quarterback,
not gonna make mistakes.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
I don't think Andy Dalton has a big market either.
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Okay? So you know one of the things I love
about the NFL is you can go from one win
to eleven. Bill Parcells did it and he wasn't even
coaching in Miami. Tony Sperano was. Parcells kind of turned
over the bottom half of the roster, bottom third of
the roster. You can go from one win to eleven
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very quickly. This is not the NBA where you get
nineteen year olds who can't even have a glass of
wine in the hotel bar they're staying at. They're not
physically or mentally emotionally ready to play in the NBA.
It's not baseball where unless you're like a Bryce Harper,
are you going to be in the minors for years
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not in the NFL. The Chicago Bears are not all
doom and gloom. So let me give you an example.
Seattle and Detroit on one really good draft class. One
year later you were like, Oh, they got their left tackle,
they got a running back, they got this, they got that,
they got a receiver. Seattle Detroit went from potential mass
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to really interesting in one draft class. So Chicago has
the number one pick and the number four pick in
the first round. I'll get back to that in a second.
They're gonna take Caleb Williams with the one. They also
have two fourth round picks. This is an exceptional draft
at left tackle, at quarterback. There's a lot of players
in this draft. Caleb Williams plus an offensive coach, plus
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hitting on two or three other picks. Think I'm wrong.
The Houston Texans were a laughingstock. They were a warm
weather Chicago. In fact, I would argue Chicago had antage
on Houston. They have a number one receiver, DJ Moore.
Houston had a hit in it on Like fourth round guys,
receivers matter. DJ Moore's a number one. Okay. So the
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Houston Texans were the Bears week ownership revolving Dorit coach,
not an elite, considered an elite front office rebuilding roster,
needed a quarterback. They hit on will Anderson on the edge.
They hit on a coach they had on CJ. Stroud
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immediately viable in a kind of wonky division. Well, isn't
the NFC North sort of a wonky division? Who's quarterback
in Minnesota next year? You love Jordan Love. It's not
dooman gloom. Chicago has a potential gold mine at that
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number four pick, So I would go get like a
Ben Johnson, draft Caleb Williams that number four pick. Let's
go back to the boards. So if you look at
the draft board, so we know Chicago needs a quarterback,
they're going to draft one. Arizona is going to stay there.
They need a weapon because they're paying Kyler Murray a fortune.
They have to validate and elevate that position. Marvin Harrison
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is the best receiver prospect maybe since Calvin Johnson. The
Patriots are going to draft a quarterback. But then Chicago's
at four. I would trade down. You could drop down five, six,
seven spots and get players. Tampa Bay needs a quarterback.
The Jets could draft a quarterback. Think they'll go old line.
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Keep your eye on a team like Seattle or Atlanta.
Atlanta needs a quarterback. They've got two good backs. They
have a tight end in Kyle Pitts, who hasn't been
quite as good as they thought. They have a very
good offensive line. That number four pick for Chicago is
a potential gold mine. Once you get the quarterback, you
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could trade down just eight to nine spots, still get
an elite player and get multiple picks. This is a
draft with strong quarterback prospects and nine teams in the
NFL desperate for a quarterback or coaches are getting run.
You could get my takeaway on that number four pick.
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You can get two first for that, meaning Caleb Williams
is going to have additional picks, so they've already got two.
Fourth offensive coach, Caleb, I think Chicago. There's a lot
of Las Vegas needs a quarterback. They wouldn't move up
to four. They've got Hunter Renfro, a star back, a
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great left tackle, a star receiver, a great edge rusher.
They may not want to give up on any of those.
But the Raiders, I've been saying this all year, they
got players. The Seahawks are a prime example. Seattle does
not have. Seattle has one hole in the roster quarterback
Pete Carroll's now in his seventies. You don't think Seattle
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would give up. I mean, would they consider saying we'll
give you Dk Metcalf, We'll give you one of our
two backs, We'll give you one of our tackles plus two.
Number one. Seattle has the roster. They just need the quarterback.
And as Seattle, if they lose to Dallas Thursday keeps
losing and losing and losing, and they have like the
twelfth pick, eleventh pick, Seattle won't move up to four.
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You could get players and picks. Pete Carroll now is
not going to go with Drew Locke. Gino Smith's not
the answer, and Pete knows it. They need a quarterback.
The roster is set and it's young. Seattle could give
you picks and players. So that number four pick for Chicago,
if they stay there is a gold mine. They would
have been better off losing last night keeping that number
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four pick. That number four pick, you know that's probably
bo Nicks. In recently people think bo Nix is a
really good number three quarterback in a draft. Maybe it's
Drake May, maybe it's Michael Pennix, but there is that's
a gold mine right there. So it you know, you
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talk yourself into doom and gloom. The Houston Texans were
the warm weather Bears. They were a laughing stock a
year ago. Hitting a coach, hitting a quarterback, hit on
the number that Will Anderson the other edge rusher, So
you got an edge rusher. A quarterback of coach can
win a lot of games in this league, can win
a lot of games. Good coach, good quarterback, good pass
rush wins a lot of games. Certainly makes you playoff viable.
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You can have holes at linebackers, safety. So it's just
I don't think it's all doom and gloom for Chicago.
And if you move off. So Chicago has two first
two fourths, they could have two two's. If you get
Justin Fields for you have half the lead wanting him.
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Can you Trey Lance got a fourth pick? Can Justin
Field's get a second round pick? So the Bears could
hit I think, well he cannot get it. Okay a
third reason? Okay, two first, a second, two thirds, two fours.
Hit on half of those and get the right coach.
You're absolutely instantly viable in that division. So where Fields
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is helped, you already have a number one receiver, you
already have an excellent pass rusher in Montest sweat you
have tight ends. I like, you have capable running backs.
You have an excellent corner who's a free agent. Don't
tell me Chicago to now pieces. They like their left tackle,
they like their star receiver, they like Montesa.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
They still have a coach or a quarterback, which is
kind of important. But to my point on fields having
a market, Colum, we've seen a lot of starting quarterbacks
go down this year.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Yeah, and nobody having a backup.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
There's a huge value in having a good backup, capable
backup quarterback. And I'm just telling you right now, Like
if Jalen Hurts goes down and his knees looking tricky.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I don't I think that's one of your better suggestions today.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Like, they gotta have someone like Mariota. He's a veteran,
but he's always hurt too.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
You have been a super soaker of hot takes today,
super sober. Justin fields as a backup in Philadelphia is interesting.
It's an interest.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
It comes down to fields. Hey, dude, do you want
to compete for a starting job. Do you think you
can be a starter or do you want to be
a backup on it with a good franchise, a winning culture,
good coaching, like there's value in that. But it's a
tough sell to a twenty four year old to take
a step back like he started a superstar in high school,
superstar in college, the top ten, top fifteen pick in
the draft, Like it's a tough sell to be, like, hey,
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go be a backup behind Kyler Murray and you're gonna
play because he's gonna get hurt.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Like it's a tough sell.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
I think it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
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All right, it's the Herd. Hierarchy. Top ten teams in
the NFL. You're you're gonna blanch it. Maybe a couple
of them, but here we go.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Heard hierarchy time. Now let's go the top ten NFL
teams according to College Number two.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Right now today, Denver is a top ten team five
to zero since Week seven. For the five teams they've
beaten have winning records, allowing sixteen points a game, best
turnover differential in the league. Excellent backs, poward football, young
young athletic defense, good enough receivers, Mims Cortland, Sutton, Jerry Judy,
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Dulcic coming back at tight end. Twenty touchdowns, four picks
for Russell Wilson this morning. That is a top ten
team in the NFL. Number nine Buffalo, Listen, they're crazy,
but six of their losses are by six points. They
are what they were three years ago. Josh Allen leads
the NFL with twenty four touchdown passes and thirteen picks
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and sixteen total giveaways. They're one of the more penalized
teams in the NFL. In fact, I think to the
most penalized team. This is what they are. They're not
buttoned up. I called them the Mike Tyson. Just depends
on who they fight. They'll knock you out in the
first round or or lose a close fight late because
they're bad on the details. But you can't tell me
they're not a top ten team in the league. They
had Philadelphia beaten about three different times in that football
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game in Philadelphia. Number eight Miami. I have my issues
with them, the speedboat of the NFL. They're one in
three against teams that are five hundred. Are better. But
we have to be fair. If I'm gonna support Russell
Wilson with Sean Payton. I gotta support Tua with Mike McDaniels.
Tua under Mike McDaniels sixteen wins, eight losses, sixty seven
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percent completion percentage, passer rating at one zero, four point six.
It's a good team. They don't have the defensive Denver,
but Tua with this coach and these weapons, feels like
a playoff team to me. Miami at eight.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Number seven.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Detroit love their offensive line and ability to control the
clock with the run game. Jared Goff's gotten sloppy in
the last couple of weeks. They have a hole on
this team that is going to take him out of
the Super Bowl running. They're bad on the back end
of their defense, and I'm not sure this coaching staff
can solve it. They're just not they don't have the
personnel in the back end. They're like the Chargers. They
can outplay and lose because they give up cheap stuff
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on the back end. But they have the number one
ranked offensive line, the number two total offense. They can
win shootouts, and they are capable of winning a playoff game.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Detroit number six.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I like Jacksonville, least penalized team in the NFL only
unefeited team on the road this year. Do you know
that six and zero on the road? That says something
six and oh on the road this year. I like Jacksonville.
Do I think they can win a Super Bowl?
Speaker 4 (32:32):
No?
Speaker 1 (32:32):
That's my top four teams in the league. My top
four teams I think are super Bowl teams. Jacksonville can
win on the road, star quarterback, clever offensive coach. I
got them at six, number five. Dallas, they crush the
teams they should. You do get credit for that. Now
they've played the easiest schedule in the NFL and they've
beaten up on the dregs of the league. But again
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you get credit for that. Their remaining five games are
much much tougher. They play Sea, Theattle Eagles, Bills, Dolphins, Lions.
Let's be fair with Dak. Over his last six games,
he's been terrific. Eighteen TD's two picks. We gotta be fair.
The Ceedee Lamb Dak combination. He's got a Burrow, Jamar
Chase Field to it. It's big boy football. Dallas at
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number five, number four, and here my super Bowl teams, Baltimore.
I may have them one spot low. Listen Baltimore's got
the number one rush offense and the number two scoring defense.
I like them. They're fast, they're physical opposing quarterbacks. Passer
rating seventy two, lowest in the league. Again, I may
have them a spot low, but I think if they
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played my number three team tomorrow, I take my number
three teams. So Baltimore's at four, number three in Kansas
City by an inch. Keep your eye on Rashi Rice
looks like he could be their number one receiver. So
I've said I think they have a bunch of threes.
Rashee Rice, he was a second round kid, may become
the number one. They also showed they can score in
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the second half. They've also, let's be fair, with Kansas
City played the second hardest schedule, I still have doubts
about their second half offense. It was the Raiders. But
Rashi Rice, his growth is really interesting. Number two San Francisco.
When Trent Williams plays, they win eight and one. They
leave the NFL in turnover. Differentially, I think they have
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the most weapons in the NFL. Philadelphia beats everybody narrowly.
They can blow people out. If they have their people,
they blow people out. Devo Christian Kittle, I yuk. Those
are dudes, and I think they can beat you in
multiple ways. So I have San Francisco at number two.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Number one.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Listen, Philadelphia thirty one consecutive weeks. They've had the best
record in the league. It's choppy, it's inartistic, but they're
seven and one in one score games. Their O line
D line combination is excellent. They are not a perfect team.
You can beat them downfield. My top four teams are
the teams I believe this morning should be favorites and
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can hoist a trophy. Philadelphia one, San Francisco two, Kansas
City three, and Baltimore four. I don't know what to
do with Baltimore. I think for the second week in
a row. My take his I probably have them low.
I do not think Dallas hois a trophy, but I
think they're the closest team to not doing it. With
Jacksonville that could potentially do it, but won't Jamak your
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initial thought.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Oh my goodness. So I was looking around my desk.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
I need a flag to throw, so I all like
if it was his tissue box, Calbert, what are you?
Speaker 3 (35:27):
We're the Pittsburgh Steelers. How were the Houston Texans twelve. No, no, no,
this this doesn't work.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Come out, this doesn't even this is Detroit Lions at seven.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
All right, let me name Let me just name the
quarterbacks on this list, not the teams. Jalen Hurts, you
love Purty Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Dak Trevor, Lawrence goff to A,
Josh Allen, Russell, Wilson, Kenny Pikett.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
Oh so what was?
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Just name me the best quarterbacks of the best team.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
I don't know right now. Best quarterback mostly wins the division.
Interest you can't listen Mike Tomlin Coach of the Year.
There's no way I can put Denver right now. You
have to unsee September. Denver is playing. They've beaten Kansas City,
they've beaten Buffalo. They're beating good teams.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
So now the sample size is like four or five games,
so we're basically That's why Denver's had.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
A place where it used to work. Nobody had courage.
They would just list standings. That's not how I roll here.
I'm telling you the best teams this week.
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Speaker 1 (36:35):
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Speaker 4 (36:36):
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Speaker 1 (36:50):
People don't know what to do when they see something
that's new and different. And Jim Harbaugh is that all
those Ohio State Buckeye fans railing and laughing and mocking
Jim Harbaugh now have the second best coach in the rivalry.
Nothing against Ryan Day, but he can't beat Harball and
certainly there's no proof he could get to a super Bowl. Harball, though,
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had a moment yesterday and I kind of agree with it,
and I kind of don't about the intensity of the
rivalry Ohio State and Michigan.
Speaker 7 (37:25):
The student athletes that are they are you know, young kids,
young adults that are playing this game, and all we
asked them to do is go out there and play
their very best. I think that is it's very manufactured
for the TV show that that people want to want
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to watch and see, but it's not healthy. It's not
healthy for for the for the student athletes on either side.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
When you're trying to put that.
Speaker 7 (37:56):
Much, you know, somebody's you know, thinking it's life or death.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Now, in principle, I do agree with Harball, and I
think ninety nine percent of fans get it. But one
of the things the media does get right and we
miss a lot, is how we treat college athletes. We're
not nearly as harsh on them, nor should we be.
We're just not as harsh on college sophomores juniors. Maybe
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once they get drafted it changes, or as they get
ready for the draft process. But I will say the
difference between the basketball and football culture in America. I
like the football. I prefer the latter. Our basketball culture
is perpetual coddling. It's not healthy. It creates immature players,
and the percentages of busts in the NBA draft are
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through the roof the football culture. They're coached hard, occasionally
screamed at, ridiculed, mocked, mostly in a reasonable fashion. They
are The media doesn't really take out the sledgehammer very rarely,
very infrequently on college guys, but it does create players
who are hardened, coachable, and mature. I think the basketball
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culture in America is in a crisis. I watch John
Morant's personal life Zion, and I say to myself, what's
wrong with it? They're talented. Have they been coddled, given
too much too early? I don't have answers. But what
college football's culture does create, and it's not always pretty,
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is mostly mature players ready to produce, producing now at
the top programs, and eternally grateful for the opportunity. Harby
is right, some people can't handle it. It is not
life or death. But in America, I would take the
current football culture over the basketball culture, which Steve Kerr
recently talked about the AAU and said it's actually a
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negative for players' growth college basketball guys. In fact, basketball
players don't even have to go to college. The top
four picks in this past draft were from four different leagues.
I'm not sure if that's a great thing. Maybe it is,
maybe it isn't. But I like our football culture. At times,
a small percentage of people go over the top, but
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I think it's a very small group of people, and
by and large, I like the college system. I like
what it creates. I like what it produces. Coachable young men,
willing to play hard, emotionally, physically, ready to produce like
a C. J. Stroud the minute they arrive. Now for
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last night's most embarrassing NBA loss, And it wasn't the
Lakers getting shelled. It wasn't by the Sixers. No, it
was the paper clips, as Jason calls them. That Denver
Nuggets didn't have the best player in the league, Jokic,
nor their second best player, Jamal Murray, or their third
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best player Aaron Gordon. The Clippers had all four of
their stars Kawhi Paul, George Harden. Westbrook. Not only did
they lose to Denver, they fell apart in the fourth
quarter with all their go to stars and had only
four field goals. DeAndre Jordan last night twenty one points. Dude,
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I didn't even know he played anymore. Anybody who thought
this hardened Westbrook thing was gonna work. No reason for
me to make it personal. You fanboys just keep taking
L's year after year. They're below average, shooting threes twenty
fifth and assists per game. Neither really wants to defend
on a regular basis. Westbrook Harden on the floor together
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is a minus forty three the worst combo on the team. Again,
no reason to make it personal, but I can assure
you not everybody in this organization known as the LA
Clippers loved all these moves, especially Harden. Chemistry matter. Sharing
the ball matters, committing the defense matters. After the game,
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Russell Westbrook had an incident with a fan. Again. I
don't like how fans Street Westbrook. I'm not a huge
fan of the player, but he's a human being. He
works his tail off, he plays hard all the time,
and fans can go absolutely over the top. Westbrook talked
about the moment after.
Speaker 9 (42:23):
You know, fansy, they can say whatever they want. You know,
I'm not gonna say now because it's not appropriate, But
I'm just protecting myself. Just unfortunately tasty. They can't get
away with saying anything, and I won't personally. I won't
allow it to coronto. You know, people say anything, you know,
getting away with it, but.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
I won't stand for it now. In fairness, Westbrook went
to the staff and said, earlier this year, I'll come
off the bench. I thought that was a team move.
You know, Harden wouldn't do that. But again, the worst
life last night was not the Lakers when you have
your four stars and you're playing backups for Denver and
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they don't have their best three players. And not only
did the Denver Nuggets beat you, they destroy you in
the fourth quarter. Jerry West is still connected to the Clippers.
You cannot convince me Jerry West supported the Harden to
the Clippers move. I don't believe it. I don't believe it.
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All his years understanding chemistry and balance, no way he
supported it. I just you can't. You can't talk me
into that unless I seen the sign document that Jerry
West defended it. But it's not working. And last night
as bad, no Jokis, no Murray, no Gordon DeAndre Jordan
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lighten it of they brought him into be a locker
room guy, not even play
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As always, Jamak, you can say a lot of things
(00:51):
and argue for a lot of things, but sometimes reality
hit your right square between the eyes in Chicago.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Indeed it does.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Hey, By the way, reality both of us had the
bears last night. I even sit sprinkle a little on
the money line. How about a baby we gave up
the I'm not sure I had the bears.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
You didn't have bears last night. I know, I coward,
what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Vikings? All right, here we go, Justin Fields. It's over.
The first sign you don't have a franchise quarterback. Your
defense gets four interceptions and you can't manufacture a single touchdown.
The second sign, your offensive coordinator doesn't want you to
throw the ball down the field. Thirty three starts. If
you went to a stand up comedian for thirty three
(01:33):
minutes and didn't laugh, he's not funny. You can keep
blaming everybody else. Great, he's athletic. I would watch him
if he went to Atlanta. I'd move him to Atlanta,
get a third round pick. He'd be fun Bijon Drake London,
Kyle Pitts, the Chicago Thing's over top. Franchise quarterbacks do
two or three things really well. They see the field,
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process quickly and accurately deliver the ball. I don't see it.
We've got thirty three starts. He's not good enough to
pass on a much better college prospect who doesn't turn
the ball over a lot, Caleb Williams. Justin Fields has
thirty five fumbles and thirty five games, a passer rating
in the low eighties, a completion percentage barely above sixty.
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Caleb Williams is a better prospect. You'll be able to start,
restart the rookie salary clock, and it'll put a new
energy in the building.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
C J.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Stroud Game one, with four backups on the offensive line
in no run game, the Texan staff let him sling
the ball all over the field thirty three starts, and
this offense, they don't want him to throw the ball
down the field. Fifteen of his twenty seven completions were
at or behind the line of scrimmage. And I know
you think you know more than the coaches, but what
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coaches allow players to do not just quarterbacks, tight ends, corners, safeties.
What they allow them to do is what they see
them incapable or not doing in practice. This right like,
don't do that, don't do that. So by the time
you get to a game, the coaches allow you to
do certain things that they see you can produce consistently
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in practice. Again, Houston coaches c J. Stroud first game
throwing it all over the field thirty three starts for
justin fields. They won't let him throw it down the field.
There was one completion over twenty yards and that was
at the end of the game when the Chicago coaches
had no choice. And by the way, he's got DJ
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Moore a number one receiver. He's opened a lot downfield.
So when you have to consider going to a third coach,
probably not the coaching. The common denominator in Chicago is
justin Fields. Remember y'all banged on Matt Mitch Trubisky. I
was never a Trubisky fan. I didn't like the draft pick.
I was never a fan, but he went to the
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playoffs twice. Aaron Rodgers was in his prime in Green
Bay at Stafford was still in Detroit. The division is
wide open now. Mitch Trubisky, who nobody in Chicago gave,
you know, a second thought as a franchise guy. They
weren't into it. He went eleven and three first year
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with Matt Naggi. You want to know the one year
justin fields at Matt Naggie two and eight, but kind
of a swing. And I'm not a fan at Trubisky.
I would have moved off Trubisky early. But Aaron was
in his prime. Stafford was close to his prime, and
he got to the playoffs twice. Nobody defended Trubisky. It's
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over again. We've got thirty three starts right now. He's auditioning. Yes,
he's athletic. Yeah, he seems like a nice kid. Trubisky
was a nice kid, and yeah, this organization doesn't do
a great job to draft and develop quarterbacks. I agree
with all that stuff, but Caleb Williams is a better prospect.
You start the rookie salary clock, it's a new energy
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in the building. And Caleb, for the record, doesn't turn
the ball over much, all right, and he's been running
for his life for the last two years too, So
it happens over fifty percent of the first round quarterbacks
don't make it. It's okay. He's athletic enough to get
a second opportunity. I'd love to see him play in Atlanta.
Offensive coach Bijan Kyle pitch Drake London. I'd watch better
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Old Line than the Bears. I think i'd watch. It's fun,
it's different, but I don't think Justin Field is to
hoist the trophy guy. And maybe there's only seven of
those guys on the planet. But like this capitulation over, well,
he could. He did thirty three starts. He completes about
sixty percent of his throws low passer rating, a lot
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of fumbles. I mean, nice kid, but four interceptions, no touchdowns.
He's got a number one receiver, good tight ends. The
on line's not as awful as everybody claims. Capable running backs.
The coaches won't let him throw the ball down the field.
Here's justin after.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
We haven't let you know our record defind who we are.
We know who we are as a team. You know,
we know what we're capable of, and it's really just
going out there and doing it, going out there, executing
and finishing the way we know how the way we
did tonight, and really just cleaning up the mistakes because
you know, if you clean up my two fumbles were
probably not even in that situation.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Thirty five fumbles and thirty five games he fumbles. That's
the reality this league is about. Can you see the
field delivered accurately, don't turn it over and win games
and stay healthy. He's not checking a lot of boxes.
It's time, Okay. This story is interesting. Dion Sanders loses
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three commitments after taking a shot at the ncublea's recruiting policy.
So you know, Dion loved recruiting when all the guys
were coming to him, but when some started leaving, he
said to the NC double A, it's not fair. Once
you commit, you shouldn't be flirting around talking to other schools.
So first of all, let's start with this. Dion Sanders
is realizing what all Colorado football coaches eventually realize. It's
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hard to build a great roster in Boulder. The athletic
department doesn't have a lot of money and support, and
the state does not provide a lot of great high
school football players. It was very fun to watch early,
but Colorado finished four and eight, one in eight in
the Pac twelve and blew a twenty nine to zero
lead against awful Stanford. You guys are banging on Lincoln Riley.
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Deon Sanders didn't win enough. But I will say this
in support of him. I thought September Dion Colorado was great.
It was new, it was fresh, it was fun. I
don't regret for a second leaning into it. I like
new stuff. They were the most watched team in college
football for five weeks. They were a little bit like
a TikTok trend wild for about twenty four hours, and
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then they fade into irrelevance. But that's Okay, you're on
TikTok two Colorado football. Eventually all coaches discover this is
Colorado football. That's why if you go back to the
nineteen sixties and the nineteen seventies, the top twenty programs
then are most of the top twenty programs.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
It's a state that doesn't provide a lot of players,
and you have to convince him to leave Texas in
California and come to the mountains. It's hard. A lot
of people I find are rooting against Dion Sanders. He's different.
He brags a lot. To me, a little showy, I
get it. But to me. Nick Saban lost to Louisiana
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Monroe in his first year at Alabama. This stuff is hard.
Dabo Sweeney at powerhouse Clemson, surrounded by great high school
talent in the surrounding states, has had ten plus wins
in twelve straight years until this year. He dips a little.
Dude's got two natties and a big chunk of fan
base is furious with him. That's college football. Ryan Day's
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record in the Big Ten is forty one and three.
Half the fan base wants him out. Society is filled
with people on the sidelines taking shots at successful people.
It's so easy, you know it's not. It's hard. Nick
Saban built a powerhouse. They weren't winning back to back.
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It's hard. Nil transfer portals made it even harder. It's
easy to sit on the sidelines and take shots at
Dion Sanders. But September, Dion, September Colorado was a lot
of fun. I thought they'd get dragged by TCU, and
they went to Texas and blew them out. But Dion
is realizing the realities of college football. Brian Kelly is
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an excellent coach. Half the fan base wants him gone.
Ryan Day is an excellent coach. Deabo Sweeney's an excellent coach.
Nobody's ever happy. Mario Cristobal is at a better program
than Dion. He's five hundred after two years at Miami.
Nebraska is a better program than Colorado. Matt Ruhle went
five and seven. September. We all got a little over
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our skis. We got into the hype. It's okay. You
fall in love with a lot of things. People, teams, players, businesses, opportunities.
It's okay. Go ahead, be grumpy, never fall in love
with anything. September football for Dion was a blast. I
loved it. I thought it was crazy, surprise the heck
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out of me. But then reality set in. The Colorado
players de committing. So what players d commit from Nick Saban,
Ryan Day, Dabo Sweeney, Lincoln Riley. Players d commit all
the time. Players have never been more empowered. What I
find with Dion is a lot of people are just
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rooting against him. And you're all experts. Now, I told
you it was hype, So what if it was. Sometimes
hype is fun, That's okay. We all fall for something
at some time in our lives. I'm rooting for Dion,
but it is Colorado football. Let's temper our enthusiasm. If
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he gets them to a five hundred program, that's pretty
good for Colorado football. When he first got hired, I
thought it was weird. A day later made some calls, thought, oh,
he'll get attention. That part you can't deny. None of
us have ever discussed Colorado football more than now. And
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that's part of building a losing program into an occasional
winning program. Getting attention. J Mack, we got a lot
of things going on. I am supporting people who get
dragged by the media today. I want to support Mike
McCarthy again today.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Get dragged. He's got a great team. Can I give
you two teams for Justin Fields for next year?
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Atlanta's got to be one.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
No, Atlanta's not one.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
They have Ritter and Heineke who they like, and they
just drafted her. Bear with me for two quick ones.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Brian Dable had.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
A lot of success with Josh Allen and Mobile Quarterback
had some success with Daniel Jones. Okay, we know Tyrod
Taylor's a free agent. DeVito's not the guy Daniel Jones
coming off the injury. Does Dabolls say, give me, let
me try to reform Justin Fields. Have a Fields versus
Daniel Jones showdown in the preseason for the job.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
We'll see what happens. I think Fields would be a
capable backup in New York, maybe the starter.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
I think that's very interesting.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Okay, Now the second one is a little distier kind
of workshop.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
This last night.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Works. Okay, Gilly, let's go.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
I know that he loves Drew Locke a lot. I
know he loves Drew Lock. Nobody else does. We've seen
the max of Gino Smith last year.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Now, Water's finding its level. He's starting to They got
a good team. Gino Smith has not played well. Does
Justin Fields have a chance.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
To start in Seattle? Could he beat out Jenale Smith?
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Now I know Pete Carroll well enough. There's one thing
that drives Pete Carroll crazy turnovers. And I mean I've
never met a coach who is tougher on players who
fumble and throw interceptions. Justin Field is a bad fit
for Pete Carroll. The Brian Dabele one is fascinating.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Here's an ultra safe one for you.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
His agent goes to Justin Fields and says, listen, Justin
you need to grow up a little.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
You need to mature.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
You need to be in a good organization where you're
going to hold the clipboard for a year or two
and go sit.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Behind Jalen Hurts in Philadelphia for a year or two.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Learn how to be a professional, carry a briefcase to work,
meet with the media, shoulders up broadcasts, speaking confidently.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah, like you need to be a professional, go sit
behind Jalen.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
And also, yeah, that's not a terrible idea. The Pete
Carroll one does not work for me. I just know
what I know Pete, and I know what he's into
and running backs at fumble and quarterbacks that turn it over.
I mean Russell Wilson didn't turn it over much, and
when he did, Pete would mention it at every press conference.
So it doesn't work in Cigah. The Brian Dable one
in the Philadelphia one is very interesting because we know
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Justin's talented enough to get a second look. I would say,
see everybody's banging on Atlanta and Arthur Smith. I never
watch it and think, man, they're under coached. I think
they're under talented, too young in key spots. But I
think Arthur Smith bijon Justin Fields better online than people
get Drake London. That's interesting. That gets me to a television.
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It's interesting. I would watch that. I think Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Several spots around the league like.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Oh, he's gonna get another chance.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
I think he's gonna have a good market. I know
people don't like him, but he's gonna have Like the Raiders, what.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Are they doing? What to Shrane Lance got a number
four pick. Justin Fields can get you too. Absolutely again,
I'm not rooting against him, but Mitch Trubisky with Aaron
Rodgers in his prime and Matt Stafford close to it,
got to the playoffs twice. You gotta win games in
this league. I don't want to hear about any win games.
Throw the ball down the field.
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Speaker 1 (14:54):
All right, welcome back at a Tuesday Herd Hierarchy. Forty
minutes from now, top ten teams. In the end, we
will have a surprise visitor into our top ten teams.
J Mack's not gonna love it, but it's the reality
of it. We got that coming up in forty minutes.
So Dak Prescott and the Cowboys play this Thursday on
Amazon Prime. They place Seattle. They're a huge favorite. Truth
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is at home. They've been a great home team. I'd
probably take Dallas, even though the number is big. Dallas
blows out the teams they should, and that's where Dak
and Mike McCarthy deserve credit. Many people think I'm anti Cowboy.
No I'm not. I don't buy into the hype of Dak,
but he's a very good quarterback. He's had a redeemable career.
He's a B plus quarterback who has a nights. He's
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a very good player, great intangibles. Don't love his arm.
Don't think he's as athletic as it's been portrayed through
the years. You know what I mean? I said, I
think he's a slightly better than Kirk Cousins. And everybody's
always banging on Kirk Cousins, and everybody gets mad when
you bang on Dak. They're kind of the same guy
if I look at their numbers. But he's having the
best year I've ever seen. He's setting all sorts of
highs and completion percentage and passer rating. The CD LAMB
(15:58):
connection is real five or six connection in the NFL.
So let's be honest about it. And Dak talked about
this season.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
I'm about one goal and it's a big team goal.
And I know if my name's in there that means
we're playing well. So that's that's great. But what I
say to myself is I haven't done.
Speaker 7 (16:18):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
It's regular season numbers are great, we're getting wins well,
that's what's most important. At the end of the day.
We're trying to stack and keep growing this team to
make sure that we're getting better each.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
And every week.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
By the way, he's a little tough on himself. He
again has had a very good career. Okay, seventy percent
quarterbacks in the first round, don't make it. He's a
fourth round quarterback. He's been a really good quarterback. Great,
not necessarily in my opinion, but good to very good. Absolutely,
he's a grown up, knows the position, gets the position.
But it should be noted this is the best DAK
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ever and it's with Mike McCarthy. Farv Rodgers, Dak have
all had great times in years with Mike McCarthy. For
God's sakes, Cooper Rush was five and one with Mike McCarthy.
The knock on McCarthy and I think the criticism is fair.
Clock management late in games is not great. Late game
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play calling is not great. Yeah, join the club. That's
what people said about Andy Reid in Philly. Sean McVay
still gets dragged about that, and Kyle Shanahan lost a
twenty eight to three lead in the Super Bowl with
very sketchy play calling. John Harbaugh this weekend a great
coach dragged for late game decisions. It's what most coaches
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struggle with. My guess is because it's hard. It should
be noted that Aaron Rodgers post Mike McCarthy get that
bomb out of town. Aaron had a two to three
playoff record. Aaron Rodgers with Mike McCarthy had a nine
to eight playoff record and a Super Bowl. Maybe it
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isn't Mike Dallas destroys the teams they should. We all
love Dan Campbell. They laid an egg at home against
inferior Green Bay this weekend. Dallas kicks that, you know what,
out of every average team they play. I've been critical
of Mike McCarthy, but he can coach. Doesn't have to
be my favorite coach, but he can coach. I've seen
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him win with Farv Rogers, and Dak arguments the last
two had their best years with him. Dak's the best
he's ever been, and he doesn't have as good an
O line as he did his rookie year. He's only
got one receiver, not a ton of tight end production,
has a running back that's a two not a one.
And Philadelphia maybe the best team in the league. And
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he's got to play them twice and outplayed him the
last time they met, though lost. We got to be
fair about this stuff. Dak's having a great year and
Dallas crushes the teams they should a lot of the
teams that we fall in love with in this league.
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Sometimes the simplest answer is the right answer. Justin Fields
to Atlanta feels like a shot. I would that's I
would ask yourself this, which one would you watch? Oh,
I'd go watch that bijon Justin Fields, Kyle Pitts Drake London,
but offensive coach. I would go watch Atlanta. I wouldn't
bet him because I've lost him so much money in
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my life betting the Atlanta Falcons, but I would watch that.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
The promise Arthur Smith has two turnover Prome quarterbacks, is
he what a third one?
Speaker 1 (19:33):
That's a fair point.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
They don't want a guy who throw it. They want
a guy who's safe handed.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
They would rather have like Andy Dalton as their quarterback,
not gonna make mistakes.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
I don't think Andy Dalton has a big market either.
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Speaker 3 (21:11):
You're backing Tim Boyle. Oh my gosh, you hate money,
don't you? You just hate it?
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Okay? So you know one of the things I love
about the NFL is you can go from one win
to eleven. Bill Parcells did it and he wasn't even
coaching in Miami. Tony Sperano was. Parcells kind of turned
over the bottom half of the roster, bottom third of
the roster. You can go from one win to eleven
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very quickly. This is not the NBA where you get
nineteen year olds who can't even have a glass of
wine in the hotel bar they're staying at. They're not
physically or mentally emotionally ready to play in the NBA.
It's not baseball where unless you're like a Bryce Harper,
are you going to be in the minors for years
and years. Turnaround projects are harder in other leagues, they're
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not in the NFL. The Chicago Bears are not all
doom and gloom. So let me give you an example.
Seattle and Detroit on one really good draft class. One
year later you were like, Oh, they got their left tackle,
they got a running back, they got this, they got that,
they got a receiver. Seattle Detroit went from potential mass
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to really interesting in one draft class. So Chicago has
the number one pick and the number four pick in
the first round. I'll get back to that in a second.
They're gonna take Caleb Williams with the one. They also
have two fourth round picks. This is an exceptional draft
at left tackle, at quarterback. There's a lot of players
in this draft. Caleb Williams plus an offensive coach, plus
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hitting on two or three other picks. Think I'm wrong.
The Houston Texans were a laughingstock. They were a warm
weather Chicago. In fact, I would argue Chicago had antage
on Houston. They have a number one receiver, DJ Moore.
Houston had a hit in it on Like fourth round guys,
receivers matter. DJ Moore's a number one. Okay. So the
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Houston Texans were the Bears week ownership revolving Dorit coach,
not an elite, considered an elite front office rebuilding roster,
needed a quarterback. They hit on will Anderson on the edge.
They hit on a coach they had on CJ. Stroud
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immediately viable in a kind of wonky division. Well, isn't
the NFC North sort of a wonky division? Who's quarterback
in Minnesota next year? You love Jordan Love. It's not
dooman gloom. Chicago has a potential gold mine at that
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number four pick, So I would go get like a
Ben Johnson, draft Caleb Williams that number four pick. Let's
go back to the boards. So if you look at
the draft board, so we know Chicago needs a quarterback,
they're going to draft one. Arizona is going to stay there.
They need a weapon because they're paying Kyler Murray a fortune.
They have to validate and elevate that position. Marvin Harrison
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is the best receiver prospect maybe since Calvin Johnson. The
Patriots are going to draft a quarterback. But then Chicago's
at four. I would trade down. You could drop down five, six,
seven spots and get players. Tampa Bay needs a quarterback.
The Jets could draft a quarterback. Think they'll go old line.
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Keep your eye on a team like Seattle or Atlanta.
Atlanta needs a quarterback. They've got two good backs. They
have a tight end in Kyle Pitts, who hasn't been
quite as good as they thought. They have a very
good offensive line. That number four pick for Chicago is
a potential gold mine. Once you get the quarterback, you
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could trade down just eight to nine spots, still get
an elite player and get multiple picks. This is a
draft with strong quarterback prospects and nine teams in the
NFL desperate for a quarterback or coaches are getting run.
You could get my takeaway on that number four pick.
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You can get two first for that, meaning Caleb Williams
is going to have additional picks, so they've already got two.
Fourth offensive coach, Caleb, I think Chicago. There's a lot
of Las Vegas needs a quarterback. They wouldn't move up
to four. They've got Hunter Renfro, a star back, a
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great left tackle, a star receiver, a great edge rusher.
They may not want to give up on any of those.
But the Raiders, I've been saying this all year, they
got players. The Seahawks are a prime example. Seattle does
not have. Seattle has one hole in the roster quarterback
Pete Carroll's now in his seventies. You don't think Seattle
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would give up. I mean, would they consider saying we'll
give you Dk Metcalf, We'll give you one of our
two backs, We'll give you one of our tackles plus two.
Number one. Seattle has the roster. They just need the quarterback.
And as Seattle, if they lose to Dallas Thursday keeps
losing and losing and losing, and they have like the
twelfth pick, eleventh pick, Seattle won't move up to four.
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You could get players and picks. Pete Carroll now is
not going to go with Drew Locke. Gino Smith's not
the answer, and Pete knows it. They need a quarterback.
The roster is set and it's young. Seattle could give
you picks and players. So that number four pick for Chicago,
if they stay there is a gold mine. They would
have been better off losing last night keeping that number
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four pick. That number four pick, you know that's probably
bo Nicks. In recently people think bo Nix is a
really good number three quarterback in a draft. Maybe it's
Drake May, maybe it's Michael Pennix, but there is that's
a gold mine right there. So it you know, you
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talk yourself into doom and gloom. The Houston Texans were
the warm weather Bears. They were a laughing stock a
year ago. Hitting a coach, hitting a quarterback, hit on
the number that Will Anderson the other edge rusher, So
you got an edge rusher. A quarterback of coach can
win a lot of games in this league, can win
a lot of games. Good coach, good quarterback, good pass
rush wins a lot of games. Certainly makes you playoff viable.
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You can have holes at linebackers, safety. So it's just
I don't think it's all doom and gloom for Chicago.
And if you move off. So Chicago has two first
two fourths, they could have two two's. If you get
Justin Fields for you have half the lead wanting him.
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Can you Trey Lance got a fourth pick? Can Justin
Field's get a second round pick? So the Bears could
hit I think, well he cannot get it. Okay a
third reason? Okay, two first, a second, two thirds, two fours.
Hit on half of those and get the right coach.
You're absolutely instantly viable in that division. So where Fields
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is helped, you already have a number one receiver, you
already have an excellent pass rusher in Montest sweat you
have tight ends. I like, you have capable running backs.
You have an excellent corner who's a free agent. Don't
tell me Chicago to now pieces. They like their left tackle,
they like their star receiver, they like Montesa.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
They still have a coach or a quarterback, which is
kind of important. But to my point on fields having
a market, Colum, we've seen a lot of starting quarterbacks
go down this year.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Yeah, and nobody having a backup.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
There's a huge value in having a good backup, capable
backup quarterback. And I'm just telling you right now, Like
if Jalen Hurts goes down and his knees looking tricky.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I don't I think that's one of your better suggestions today.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Like, they gotta have someone like Mariota. He's a veteran,
but he's always hurt too.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
You have been a super soaker of hot takes today,
super sober. Justin fields as a backup in Philadelphia is interesting.
It's an interest.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
It comes down to fields. Hey, dude, do you want
to compete for a starting job. Do you think you
can be a starter or do you want to be
a backup on it with a good franchise, a winning culture,
good coaching, like there's value in that. But it's a
tough sell to a twenty four year old to take
a step back like he started a superstar in high school,
superstar in college, the top ten, top fifteen pick in
the draft, Like it's a tough sell to be, like, hey,
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go be a backup behind Kyler Murray and you're gonna
play because he's gonna get hurt.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Like it's a tough sell.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
I think it's interesting.
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Speaker 1 (29:44):
All right, it's the Herd. Hierarchy. Top ten teams in
the NFL. You're you're gonna blanch it. Maybe a couple
of them, but here we go.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Heard hierarchy time. Now let's go the top ten NFL
teams according to College Number two.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Right now today, Denver is a top ten team five
to zero since Week seven. For the five teams they've
beaten have winning records, allowing sixteen points a game, best
turnover differential in the league. Excellent backs, poward football, young
young athletic defense, good enough receivers, Mims Cortland, Sutton, Jerry Judy,
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Dulcic coming back at tight end. Twenty touchdowns, four picks
for Russell Wilson this morning. That is a top ten
team in the NFL. Number nine Buffalo, Listen, they're crazy,
but six of their losses are by six points. They
are what they were three years ago. Josh Allen leads
the NFL with twenty four touchdown passes and thirteen picks
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and sixteen total giveaways. They're one of the more penalized
teams in the NFL. In fact, I think to the
most penalized team. This is what they are. They're not
buttoned up. I called them the Mike Tyson. Just depends
on who they fight. They'll knock you out in the
first round or or lose a close fight late because
they're bad on the details. But you can't tell me
they're not a top ten team in the league. They
had Philadelphia beaten about three different times in that football
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game in Philadelphia. Number eight Miami. I have my issues
with them, the speedboat of the NFL. They're one in
three against teams that are five hundred. Are better. But
we have to be fair. If I'm gonna support Russell
Wilson with Sean Payton. I gotta support Tua with Mike McDaniels.
Tua under Mike McDaniels sixteen wins, eight losses, sixty seven
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percent completion percentage, passer rating at one zero, four point six.
It's a good team. They don't have the defensive Denver,
but Tua with this coach and these weapons, feels like
a playoff team to me. Miami at eight.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Number seven.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Detroit love their offensive line and ability to control the
clock with the run game. Jared Goff's gotten sloppy in
the last couple of weeks. They have a hole on
this team that is going to take him out of
the Super Bowl running. They're bad on the back end
of their defense, and I'm not sure this coaching staff
can solve it. They're just not they don't have the
personnel in the back end. They're like the Chargers. They
can outplay and lose because they give up cheap stuff
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on the back end. But they have the number one
ranked offensive line, the number two total offense. They can
win shootouts, and they are capable of winning a playoff game.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Detroit number six.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I like Jacksonville, least penalized team in the NFL only
unefeited team on the road this year. Do you know
that six and zero on the road? That says something
six and oh on the road this year. I like Jacksonville.
Do I think they can win a Super Bowl?
Speaker 4 (32:32):
No?
Speaker 1 (32:32):
That's my top four teams in the league. My top
four teams I think are super Bowl teams. Jacksonville can
win on the road, star quarterback, clever offensive coach. I
got them at six, number five. Dallas, they crush the
teams they should. You do get credit for that. Now
they've played the easiest schedule in the NFL and they've
beaten up on the dregs of the league. But again
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you get credit for that. Their remaining five games are
much much tougher. They play Sea, Theattle Eagles, Bills, Dolphins, Lions.
Let's be fair with Dak. Over his last six games,
he's been terrific. Eighteen TD's two picks. We gotta be fair.
The Ceedee Lamb Dak combination. He's got a Burrow, Jamar
Chase Field to it. It's big boy football. Dallas at
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number five, number four, and here my super Bowl teams, Baltimore.
I may have them one spot low. Listen Baltimore's got
the number one rush offense and the number two scoring defense.
I like them. They're fast, they're physical opposing quarterbacks. Passer
rating seventy two, lowest in the league. Again, I may
have them a spot low, but I think if they
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played my number three team tomorrow, I take my number
three teams. So Baltimore's at four, number three in Kansas
City by an inch. Keep your eye on Rashi Rice
looks like he could be their number one receiver. So
I've said I think they have a bunch of threes.
Rashee Rice, he was a second round kid, may become
the number one. They also showed they can score in
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the second half. They've also, let's be fair, with Kansas
City played the second hardest schedule, I still have doubts
about their second half offense. It was the Raiders. But
Rashi Rice, his growth is really interesting. Number two San Francisco.
When Trent Williams plays, they win eight and one. They
leave the NFL in turnover. Differentially, I think they have
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the most weapons in the NFL. Philadelphia beats everybody narrowly.
They can blow people out. If they have their people,
they blow people out. Devo Christian Kittle, I yuk. Those
are dudes, and I think they can beat you in
multiple ways. So I have San Francisco at number two.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Number one.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Listen, Philadelphia thirty one consecutive weeks. They've had the best
record in the league. It's choppy, it's inartistic, but they're
seven and one in one score games. Their O line
D line combination is excellent. They are not a perfect team.
You can beat them downfield. My top four teams are
the teams I believe this morning should be favorites and
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can hoist a trophy. Philadelphia one, San Francisco two, Kansas
City three, and Baltimore four. I don't know what to
do with Baltimore. I think for the second week in
a row. My take his I probably have them low.
I do not think Dallas hois a trophy, but I
think they're the closest team to not doing it. With
Jacksonville that could potentially do it, but won't Jamak your
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initial thought.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Oh my goodness. So I was looking around my desk.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
I need a flag to throw, so I all like
if it was his tissue box, Calbert, what are you?
Speaker 3 (35:27):
We're the Pittsburgh Steelers. How were the Houston Texans twelve. No, no, no,
this this doesn't work.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Come out, this doesn't even this is Detroit Lions at seven.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
All right, let me name Let me just name the
quarterbacks on this list, not the teams. Jalen Hurts, you
love Purty Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Dak Trevor, Lawrence goff to A,
Josh Allen, Russell, Wilson, Kenny Pikett.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
Oh so what was?
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Just name me the best quarterbacks of the best team.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
I don't know right now. Best quarterback mostly wins the division.
Interest you can't listen Mike Tomlin Coach of the Year.
There's no way I can put Denver right now. You
have to unsee September. Denver is playing. They've beaten Kansas City,
they've beaten Buffalo. They're beating good teams.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
So now the sample size is like four or five games,
so we're basically That's why Denver's had.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
A place where it used to work. Nobody had courage.
They would just list standings. That's not how I roll here.
I'm telling you the best teams this week.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
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Speaker 1 (36:35):
This.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Saturday, the Big Ten Championship kicks off on Fox with
their perfect season and playoffs on the line. Ja J
McCarthy in third grank Michigan take on number seventeen Iowa.
Coverage begins Saturday at six thirty Eastern on Fox.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
People don't know what to do when they see something
that's new and different. And Jim Harbaugh is that all
those Ohio State Buckeye fans railing and laughing and mocking
Jim Harbaugh now have the second best coach in the rivalry.
Nothing against Ryan Day, but he can't beat Harball and
certainly there's no proof he could get to a super Bowl. Harball, though,
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had a moment yesterday and I kind of agree with it,
and I kind of don't about the intensity of the
rivalry Ohio State and Michigan.
Speaker 7 (37:25):
The student athletes that are they are you know, young kids,
young adults that are playing this game, and all we
asked them to do is go out there and play
their very best. I think that is it's very manufactured
for the TV show that that people want to want
(37:45):
to watch and see, but it's not healthy. It's not
healthy for for the for the student athletes on either side.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
When you're trying to put that.
Speaker 7 (37:56):
Much, you know, somebody's you know, thinking it's life or death.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Now, in principle, I do agree with Harball, and I
think ninety nine percent of fans get it. But one
of the things the media does get right and we
miss a lot, is how we treat college athletes. We're
not nearly as harsh on them, nor should we be.
We're just not as harsh on college sophomores juniors. Maybe
(38:24):
once they get drafted it changes, or as they get
ready for the draft process. But I will say the
difference between the basketball and football culture in America. I
like the football. I prefer the latter. Our basketball culture
is perpetual coddling. It's not healthy. It creates immature players,
and the percentages of busts in the NBA draft are
(38:47):
through the roof the football culture. They're coached hard, occasionally
screamed at, ridiculed, mocked, mostly in a reasonable fashion. They
are The media doesn't really take out the sledgehammer very rarely,
very infrequently on college guys, but it does create players
who are hardened, coachable, and mature. I think the basketball
(39:11):
culture in America is in a crisis. I watch John
Morant's personal life Zion, and I say to myself, what's
wrong with it? They're talented. Have they been coddled, given
too much too early? I don't have answers. But what
college football's culture does create, and it's not always pretty,
(39:32):
is mostly mature players ready to produce, producing now at
the top programs, and eternally grateful for the opportunity. Harby
is right, some people can't handle it. It is not
life or death. But in America, I would take the
current football culture over the basketball culture, which Steve Kerr
recently talked about the AAU and said it's actually a
(39:53):
negative for players' growth college basketball guys. In fact, basketball
players don't even have to go to college. The top
four picks in this past draft were from four different leagues.
I'm not sure if that's a great thing. Maybe it is,
maybe it isn't. But I like our football culture. At times,
a small percentage of people go over the top, but
(40:15):
I think it's a very small group of people, and
by and large, I like the college system. I like
what it creates. I like what it produces. Coachable young men,
willing to play hard, emotionally, physically, ready to produce like
a C. J. Stroud the minute they arrive. Now for
(40:35):
last night's most embarrassing NBA loss, And it wasn't the
Lakers getting shelled. It wasn't by the Sixers. No, it
was the paper clips, as Jason calls them. That Denver
Nuggets didn't have the best player in the league, Jokic,
nor their second best player, Jamal Murray, or their third
(40:56):
best player Aaron Gordon. The Clippers had all four of
their stars Kawhi Paul, George Harden. Westbrook. Not only did
they lose to Denver, they fell apart in the fourth
quarter with all their go to stars and had only
four field goals. DeAndre Jordan last night twenty one points. Dude,
(41:21):
I didn't even know he played anymore. Anybody who thought
this hardened Westbrook thing was gonna work. No reason for
me to make it personal. You fanboys just keep taking
L's year after year. They're below average, shooting threes twenty
fifth and assists per game. Neither really wants to defend
on a regular basis. Westbrook Harden on the floor together
(41:43):
is a minus forty three the worst combo on the team. Again,
no reason to make it personal, but I can assure
you not everybody in this organization known as the LA
Clippers loved all these moves, especially Harden. Chemistry matter. Sharing
the ball matters, committing the defense matters. After the game,
(42:05):
Russell Westbrook had an incident with a fan. Again. I
don't like how fans Street Westbrook. I'm not a huge
fan of the player, but he's a human being. He
works his tail off, he plays hard all the time,
and fans can go absolutely over the top. Westbrook talked
about the moment after.
Speaker 9 (42:23):
You know, fansy, they can say whatever they want. You know,
I'm not gonna say now because it's not appropriate, But
I'm just protecting myself. Just unfortunately tasty. They can't get
away with saying anything, and I won't personally. I won't
allow it to coronto. You know, people say anything, you know,
getting away with it, but.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
I won't stand for it now. In fairness, Westbrook went
to the staff and said, earlier this year, I'll come
off the bench. I thought that was a team move.
You know, Harden wouldn't do that. But again, the worst
life last night was not the Lakers when you have
your four stars and you're playing backups for Denver and
(43:06):
they don't have their best three players. And not only
did the Denver Nuggets beat you, they destroy you in
the fourth quarter. Jerry West is still connected to the Clippers.
You cannot convince me Jerry West supported the Harden to
the Clippers move. I don't believe it. I don't believe it.
(43:27):
All his years understanding chemistry and balance, no way he
supported it. I just you can't. You can't talk me
into that unless I seen the sign document that Jerry
West defended it. But it's not working. And last night
as bad, no Jokis, no Murray, no Gordon DeAndre Jordan
(43:49):
lighten it of they brought him into be a locker
room guy, not even play
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