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September 11, 2024 • 40 mins

Colin looks at the issue the Giants are facing with QB Daniel Jones after signing him to a contract extension as he continues to underperform. He gives you 5 reasons why the Jets and Aaron Rodgers will be ok despite getting dominated by the 49ers in week 1. He also talks to Fox Sports NFL analyst Mark Sanchez about Caleb Williams' struggling in his debut against the Titans

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
All Right, it is a Wednesday midweek ready to roll
live in Los Angeles. It's the Herd. Wherever you may
be and however you may be listening or watching. Thanks
for making us part of your day, jamac A lot
of things going on today. Danny Parkins checks in later
this hour on the Chicago Bears. I know they won.

(00:47):
It was ugly. I think they're getting blown out in Houston.
Joel Platt. Next hour, Mark Sanchez stops by. I was
sitting there last night and they had no games. Last time.
I watch a little debate. Oh no, you didn't, Yes,
I did. Don't ever debate against the former prosecutor. That's
all I'm gonna say. Don't do that. So I was

(01:09):
thinking about this about a lot of people are afraid
of being alone, and that to me, there's always been
a big difference between lonely that's not great and being alone.
I'm alone all the time and I like it. So Minnesota,
Sam Darnold was great, but so is their defense. And

(01:32):
Jonathan Grenard was talking about Giants quarterback Daniel Jones two picks,
fifty percent completions, horrible passer rating at forty four point three,
and he said we felt bad for him. The Vikings
defense guys like we felt bad for him, And I
would rather have no quarterback for a year and be

(01:54):
seeking one than have an overcompensated quarterback and be stuck
in try I have. I've said this before. I am
claustrophobic professionally and personally. I don't like being trapped. I
don't like being trapped. A lot of people don't like
to be alone, and they stand bad relationships. I'd rather
you know, I'm lucky, but if he gave me the

(02:16):
choice of hanging out by myself and in my thoughts
or in a loveless relationship, it's real easy for me.
And I think what happens when you're alone and when
you try new things and move across the country and
take a new job and you don't know how it's
going to pan out. What you're saying is you don't
trust yourself. Let's be honest about it. You don't trust yourself.

(02:41):
The New York Giants don't trust themselves. Mara, John Mara
doesn't trust his GM that's what he's saying. Going with
Daniel Jones. That or he doesn't understand what good quarterback
play is and I don't believe that. The lesson today
is don't fear the unknown. The unknown is exciting and fun.

(03:02):
I've said every job I've ever taken I wasn't ready for.
That's the fun of it. I had a friend years
ago she took a job at Google. She said she
was lost for six months. I was like, yeah, that's
that's the great part. But deep down, you trusted yourself.
The giants don't trust themselves. Daniel Jones since he signed
the contract, has a sixty five passer rating. He's one

(03:25):
and six. He's awful, and they're still arguing when you
have no quarterback, there's absolute clarity. Oh, we're all getting
fired unless we get this right. That's an amazing place
to be the only place better to be in the
NFL is we got Patrick Malmes, we got Matt Stafford,
we got Josh Allen, we got Lamar Jackson, we got

(03:47):
Justin Herbert, we got Jalen Hurts, we got Dak. That's
the best place you want to be is having the guy.
The second best place is we don't have him. We
can get fired. It's on us. That's like being single,
a bad quarterback, over compensated quarterback. Cleveland, the New York Giants,
what an awful place to be. Give New England credit

(04:09):
three years of Mac Jones. He got him to the playoffs,
and they're like, now we don't think he's good enough,
and we don't think he's the right guy or leader.
See you, Russell Wilson, Sean Payton. Russell wasn't the problem
last year. It was Denver's defense. Sean Payton's like, yeah,
it's not gonna work long term. Boom, And they got
their guy. San Francisco. Garoppolo gets to a Super Bowl saying,

(04:33):
I know, but there's certain things he can't do. We're
gonna move off him. Trey LANs, Yeah, we're gonna move
off that too. The offensive coach is goff to Stafford.
The offensive coaches in this league trust themselves. But a
lot of the owners don't trust their gms. A lot
of the gms don't trust their scouts. If you're if

(04:56):
you're basically in a Cleveland relationship, now get out of
the sh On Watson's contract. Deal with it, Go find
the next guy. It's a mess. Go look at the
great offensive coaches. They're not afraid to be alone. They're
not afraid to not have the guy. I mean, it's
just like if you're in a six year relationship with somebody,

(05:17):
your six years your relationship, and a friend asks you
you think he's the one or she's the one, and
your answer is, well, I really like her, dad. I mean,
we just leased a car, we have a dog together.

(05:37):
Time to draft a new boyfriend or girlfriend, time to
get a new quarterback. That's not the answer. Fear is clarity.
No quarterback is clarity. Everybody in the building knows. Get
it right or we're all fired. Bet on yourself. The
giants are afraid to do that. Speaking of New York,

(06:02):
you know yesterday I thought to myself, boy was I pessimistic?
Boy was I negative? And that's not who I am?
I am known in this building is glass half full.
Colin and I thought there's got to be another way
to look at the Jets, and then Robert saw their

(06:24):
coach said this yesterday.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Unfortunately it does because I think I know we're going
to get the defense fixed. That is not a problem.
That's a problem. It's not a problem. And I know
we're going to get a lot better from week one
to week two. We got a great opportunity this week
against Tennessee on a short week.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
And so I thought this morning, how about five positive
things about the Jets? And there are five. Number One,
San Francisco is a tough opener. I mean, outside of
Andy Reid, is there another coach in the league that
you wouldn't want to face in week one? Aisles Shanahan
with five months to prepare, and we thought Christian McCaffrey
out Trent Williams holdout would soften things up. No, not really.

(07:08):
San Francisco was a brutal opener. How about number two?
The Jets O line didn't rank highly on PFF, but
it held up pretty well. Bosa didn't get a sack.
I didn't think their O line was a problem. I
thought it was fine. I didn't think it was dominating
like the Lion's o line and overtime, but I thought
it was fine, and the Niners have a better than
average front seven. How about number three, This loss and

(07:33):
the way it happened should propel the owner to get
out the checkbook and sign Hassan Reddick like they needed
a more consistent pass rush brock Perty had too much time.
How about number four? Aaron Rodgers is not as athletic
as he once was, but he still throws a beautiful ball.
When he had time to throw, it comes out like Marino.

(07:54):
It's beautiful. He was the fourth highest graded passer week one.
I'd like to do jolly note that Sam Darnold was
number two, but Aaron was four, and it looked pretty.
He always looks pretty. He's going to get more comfortable.
I mean he's not very good in week one anyway,
He's like one in four in his last five week ones.
He's kind of distracted in the offseason, does his own thing.

(08:16):
So Aaron's never been great in recent years. Once he
got paid the big money, he does his own thing
in the summer. I'm okay with that. Burrow's not good
in week one either. I think he's great, and number
five is getting blown out in Week one is not
gloom and doom. The last four years, a team that
got blown out in Week one made the playoffs. I mean,
Kansas City didn't get blown out, but Kansas City lost

(08:39):
Week one at home last year to Detroit and then
won the Super Bowl. So Julian Edelman yesterday on our
show said, let's just pump the brakes on the doom
and gloom for New York.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
They played the defending NFC championship team against the forty
nine Ers, a team that has contin new that's played
with each other for multiple years.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
Now.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
We can't just expect the Jets, who were a seven
win seat seven win team last year, to go out
there and compete with like one of the best teams
in the league. And Aaron Rodgers he's smart enough to
learn what he has to do to be productive. That
was his first game with live action bullets. So like,
I'm pumping the brakes on the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah, I feel better about myself today. I don't want
to be like negative guy spraying the negative aerosol over
the crop week one. That's not who I am. Did
I mention that Sam Darnold had the second highest passer
rating that may have slipped by. I just want to
make sure everybody realizes Sam Darnald was the second highest

(09:46):
readed passer. There's a lot of positive vibes. By the way,
the Viking schedule gets much tougher, the Jets schedule gets
much easier. So I do think right now, if I
had to make my two favorite bets of week two,
one of them is Jets at Tennessee minus four. I
think the defense will play with its tear on fire.

(10:07):
It was completely embarrassed. Robert Salah confidently said that's not
gonna be the problem. Will Levis is not going to succeed.
Jets win comfortably in Week two. Vikings, meanwhile, schedule gets
much more difficult in the next four to five weeks.
Probably pull back a bit. So j Mack, there it
is yesterday. As I saw you leaving the building, I

(10:28):
saw a shadow cast over you, a pall over you,
and I wanted to lift you up because I just
not how we want to start the season with negativity.

Speaker 5 (10:37):
Fine, it's an l we took it.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
We're on to Tennessee.

Speaker 5 (10:40):
We're moving on.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
Not a big deal.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
I think you're overblowing it a little bit. I think
the Jets, you know, didn't look great against a juggernaut,
as Edelman said, But can I go back to the
Vikings forty nine ers real quick for a second. Yeah,
did they play last year? They did? Who won that game?
Wasn't that close?

Speaker 4 (10:57):
Vikings one.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
I don't see why we're discounting Minnesota in this spot. No, No,
I'm not. I tend to think Sean Payton has said this.
You know, there's certain times you can really coach your
team hard. I think Sala the advantage to getting kind
of humiliated in Week one, especially when you do have talent.
Carolina got humiliated. They may not have the players, they
probably don't, but New York has the players and got humiliated.

(11:23):
So professional athletes like to be coached. And Robert Sala
is going to come in hard, and he's going to
come in really loud and really intense. And I think
New York a lot of their best players have been
in this league for four or five years. Sum are young,
but CJ. Mosley, Aaron Rodgers, Quinnin and William these guys
been around the block of Mike Williams, guys Tyron Smith.

(11:43):
They can be coached hard. I think Robert's going to
put it on pretty loud and intense and heavy this week,
and I think they'll respond. And I think the one
team in the league that won and had no business
winning was Tennessee. So the line should be six to seven.
It's four because they if you watch the game, and
I watched every snap, Tennessee gave the game away. I mean,

(12:06):
Chicago had sixty four yards passing, Tennessee had a seventeen
nothing lead. They controlled the football game. So Tennessee really lost,
but gets a w Jets with real talent are humiliated.
You mean the inverse Tennessee basically you think won but
they lost the games. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but they won
the game, and so they probably feel much better about
themselves in the betting markets like Tennessee. Tennessee. Tennessee is

(12:32):
potentially awful. I would largely agree with They're not Carolina bad,
but they've got major holes in the Will Levis stuff
with the coach coming out and saying, yeah, we could
have just punted on every first time. I mean, when
the coach set we would have been better off punting
than giving Will Levis the ball. How does that play
in the locker room when a coach says that players
hear that and salah, Hey guys, you got pushed around,

(12:54):
you got bullied by the Niners.

Speaker 5 (12:55):
How you feel about that? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Different fire.

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Speaker 1 (13:07):
So I was just reading a little tweet from somebody
inside the building. Michael mulva Hill, who does all our
stats and ratings. He's a a lot of information. Big
ten ratings. Last week, viewing time was up one hundred
and forty eight percent. We kept telling you I grew

(13:28):
up with the Pac twelve, this Big ten. Now with
USC and Oregon, Washington, UCLA, with Michigan, Ohio State, Penn
State's big time. It's hard to turn the TV off.
And for years I've called Iowa the fake ID of
college football. They'd win eight or nine games, argue they

(13:49):
should be in a major Bowl of the playoff because
they beat up on directional schools out of conference, maybe Perdue,
and then they'd go get shelled against a big boy.
But you can all we have a fake ID for
so long. At some point you're twenty one and can
drink legally, so I'm you know, it's time for a
new fake ID of college football. You know somebody that

(14:11):
is new on campus, talking a big game, little thirsty
and not of legal age, kind of a poser, and
I think it's Colorado. Deon Sanders is the new fake
ID of college football. I'm sorry. A lot of talk,
a lot of hat, no cattle. I mean, at least
Iowa could hold their liquor. These guys are vomiting on

(14:35):
themselves after a margarita. It's bad. They've lost seven straight
games to FBS teams, worst run offense in America, can't
defend the run, can't play defense, tackle poorly. I mean,
at least Iowa wore a collared shirt and sort of
played the part. Maybe they can match up with Michigan.

(14:57):
Colorado can't even compete. They have the worst rushing offense
in college football, and nobody talks more trash. A lot
of stories about what they're playing over the loudspeakers. I
don't care about those, but it feels like they're one
big campaign to get Shader Sanders the Heisman or the
number one pick. It's just a timeshare sales pitch and
I'm over it. And let's be honest. Iowa graduated college,

(15:20):
they got a good job at a local accounting firm.
They're doing fine with their life. Colorado is a mess.
They're on academic probation and they're bragging about skipping class
on Wednesday. The new fake ID of college football is Colorado,
All hat, no cattle. Dion though, says, we're just fine.

Speaker 6 (15:44):
I feel like we got the right guys. You may
see us shake something up a little bit. Phil lot
Old is a wonderful offensive line coach. Pat does a
tremendous job and called in place as he did the
first game. So you just can't take a snapshot of
one game and not understand the first game, we will
try one yards offense. I hear all these questions, but
I understand it comes with the territory. When you lose,

(16:06):
you're going to be ridicule. You're going to be prosecuted
and persecuted.

Speaker 5 (16:09):
I'm good.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
I am comfortable with a new fake ID of college football.
And I will say this, Iowa fans may have been
at patient times and want bigger ball games, but they
were humble. Could Colorado scale back a little on the
trash talk, just just a little on the ad campaign.

(16:34):
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Speaker 1 (17:21):
You know, it's it's always interesting to me to watch
who are broadcasters, what games they get. And I think
the Rams Arizona this week is fascinating because a it's
a rivalry game the Rams have dominated. But Los Angeles
O line is it is a mess. I mean they're
pulling guy. Think they just pulled somebody from the Eagles
who got cut. They don't have starters. Let's bring in

(17:44):
Mark Sanchez, Fox Sports NFL analysts first time this football season.
It's great to have him throw it. I didn't mark
this down as a week before the season started and
said that game is going to be fascinating. So I
want to ask you this, Well, I thought watching Detroit
in LA they were short bodies, and I thought when

(18:05):
it got to overtime, the Rams just ran out of bodies.
When you're in the league as a quarterback and now
Stafford's got no left tackle, starter, the kid, the other kid,
ont A TCU's not playing. Does it affect the way
you think is a quarterback? Get it out, get it fast?
I mean, you tell me.

Speaker 9 (18:23):
Well, I have one percent agree that when there's that
much turnover up front and like they had, guys are suspended,
guys go down, guys are injured. To start the game,
Stafford knew exactly what to do. And that's his year
upon year upon year of experience and understanding. I don't
have time to get it to three, four and five.

(18:45):
So if one and two aren't open, I'm expediting my
read I'm I'm speeding up my process. And he's able
to do that because of his experience. He put on
an absolute clinic.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
It was the incredible.

Speaker 9 (18:57):
I don't know if I've seen coordinate and quarterback in
lockstep like that in a long time. It was the
O lines held together by scotch tape, not even duct tape.
At that point, Stafford's got a bum ankle from getting
twisted up in the game tougher than nails. I mean,
the guy probably puts glass in his oatmeal in the
morning because he is an absolute iron man. But there

(19:21):
goes Nakoua on the stretcher in the locker room, and
this dude is still dealing throwing both on the road
in a hostile environment, in a place he played his
whole life, his whole career before LA And you don't
think they're just they just want him to cough it up.
They just want him to make the bad throw, make
the bad decision, and.

Speaker 5 (19:40):
He refused to do it.

Speaker 9 (19:42):
It's it was a little bit of the antithesis of
what we saw in our game with the Bears and
the Titans. Two younger guys who don't have that experience,
and when things go off the rails a little bit,
they don't have that resolve. Yet now it's a muscle
that you need to stretch and you need to exercise
to be a to employ. But Matthew Stafford and Sean

(20:02):
McVay were absolutely lights out. And you talk about scheming
guys to get open, you talk about using motion pre snap, alignment,
shifts and formation formations. Their shift in formation playbook with
motions has to be like the cheesecake factory menu.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
I guarantee it.

Speaker 9 (20:20):
That's probably one of the hardest things to learn in
their offense because they're all over the place, and to
play in that system, you got to know where to
line up and what's the play caller's purpose. I think
when you see a quarterback execute at that level with
that many issues going on around them, having to put
out fire after fire, in the middle of plays, in
between plays, getting guys lined up whatever it is, and

(20:42):
still reading the defense and still delivering the ball.

Speaker 5 (20:44):
Off your back foot like that at thirty.

Speaker 9 (20:46):
Seven years old, escaping the pocket and still running scramble drill.
You have to understand the play caller's purpose. Why are
we running the play? What are they doing to us
on defense? How do I get out of trouble? What's
my contingency plan. It was incredible. Was one of the
best performances I seen by him. You know, last year,
I still thought he was an MVP candidate.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
I want to it's really interesting. I thought the three
coaches that blew me away in week one were Andy,
Shanahan and McVeigh, where I'm like, okay, they had all
summer to put this on Staples. I don't know if
you can do that in week nine to ten. I
don't know if you could put the Cheesecake Factory menu in.
So when I look at the Jets, my takeaway was
this was a big ask. I know McCaffrey didn't play,

(21:27):
but Mark similarly, Miami does this too. I look at
San Francisc I tried to guess play calling. I watch
a game. I tried to SORR with Los Angeles, Kansas
City and San Francisco. I am lost. So, Eustad McVeigh
Cheesecake Factory is San Francisco is at the same level, because.

Speaker 9 (21:49):
Oh, it's it's similar at the top, like that there's
more than one play option at the beginning, guys are
wide open, yes, and you're making decisions before the ball snapped.
Most of the time, I'd say ninety five percent of
the time when you have a call at run it
Basically the coach calls it and you go in the huddle,
tell them what's going on, walk up to the line
of scrimmage, and execute the play. That is a rarity

(22:10):
in their systems. You got to go up there with
multiple options, so you got to be able to process
all that and there's a lot of moving parts to
get that done. With the Jets on the road, I
think a lot of it was a little bit of rust.
Rogers hasn't played in over a season, you know, It's
that's part of it. I think getting in a groove
with his players is an issue right now, and it's

(22:32):
still so early. You can't write these guys off. I mean,
j Mac, I know you're just throwing people out of
the league here. Let's just put the flamethrower on a shelf.
Maybe you know what I mean. It's week one, big guy.
What do we always say? Week one is a dirty
little liar like your ex Okay, just hang in there
hanging their patients. How so, with with Rogers, I think

(22:53):
part of the other problem was, I mean, they only
ran a handful of plays minutes, so when when you
have that small of a sample size, any negative play
is amplified, magnified because you know the drops by Breisee Hall,
the fumble, the interception.

Speaker 5 (23:09):
It's like, oh, these guys are terrible.

Speaker 9 (23:10):
Woll okay, twenty five thirty more plays and you change
the outcome of a ballgame. So the forty nine ers
just absolutely took it to them on the ground game.

Speaker 5 (23:21):
Oh my god, I.

Speaker 9 (23:22):
Mean it was a it was a teach tape on
how to rush the football and Jordan Mason was an
absolute monster. So those guys are road grading that defense.
I think it amplified the issues they have on defensive line.
They got to get another pass rusher, they got one
waiting in the wings. What's going to happen with that negotiation?
And Hassan Redick because that'll take a little pressure off
of Quentin Williams and Jermaine Johnson, right, Like, those things

(23:45):
are important. So so now where does that go? You know,
does does Joe Douglas want to budge a little bit
here and say, gosh, we need somebody or you know,
who's leverage? Who has more leverage? Now in that situation,
that's a tough one to deal with. Week two now,
so I'll be curious to see how they bounce back.
But I mean, listen, one one bad week on the
road across the country, getting back at seven in the morning,

(24:08):
going straight back into the building, getting ready for another
road trip in Tennessee. That's that's not an easy start
to the schedule. So if anybody can do it, it's
Aaron Rodgers. I don't want to bet against the upset
and disgruntled Aaron Rodgers. That's, you know, not the not
the wagering side I'd like to be on.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
It's so interesting. I asked maybe it was Edelman. I
asked somebody this week or last week about one of
the things I had sympathy for Aaron. I remember when
Brady got hurt and missed the season. I can remember
the next two years he got pissy. If you got
near his boat Tom was in, he would turn and
barket officials. Yeah, and so I'm thinking Aaron's had four

(24:45):
snaps in so many years. I didn't think he was
tentative to his credit, No, but I did think he
stayed within about a four foot radius. That he wasn't
quite like Stafford's not a runner, but he moves a
lot in the pocket. I did look at Aaron and think, boy,
his radius has shrunk. He didn't he wanted to sit
around for a second pitch. What did you make of it?

Speaker 9 (25:06):
I think he was doing a lot of what Stafford
was doing, and that's expediting his reads because he had
to based on the pressure he was getting, based on
how fast flow that defense is and how quickly they
were applying pressure to him. He's got to make decisions.
He's not going to just stand there and hold the ball.
That's not his game. He's gonna move on. He's gonna shuffle, move,
escape the pocket quickly and get rid of the football.

(25:29):
He's not gonna take the nineteen yard sack, you know
what I.

Speaker 5 (25:32):
Mean, That's not his thing. So he's going to stay
ahead of that.

Speaker 9 (25:35):
And some of that takes reps to actually work through
those things and kind of remind himself a little bit
about how good he is in space in the pocket,
that short area of quickness. He still got more than
enough of that to make this thing work.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
You know, in golf, you're as good as your confidence, right. Well,
we've seen great golfers of Greg Norman and Nick Faldo
get on a green light and you lose it the
yips they call it with your irons. I don't know
if there's a player in the league at quarterback that
is more confidence driven than Baker Mayfield. And now he's

(26:10):
in Tampa. He's got no pressure. He's the latest swashbuffing.

Speaker 5 (26:15):
Or no pressure.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Well, I mean the world, I know, I know, but
Tommy won the trophy. He's getting as they like him.
He's their guy. There's no backup pushing him. I watch
him in Tampa and I'm like, should Cleveland should have
kept him? I mean, it is what do you make
of his rebirth? Because it feels better than Gino, it
feels stronger than Derek Carr. I watch him Sunday and

(26:37):
I'm like, he is Dylan.

Speaker 5 (26:39):
I think it's situational.

Speaker 9 (26:41):
I think the confidence that the team and the organization
has publicly expressed, excuse me in him. He feeds off
of that. You're right, he does enjoy that and he
rides that wave. But he's also developed into a guy
that you know, isn't as reckless with the football. You
don't see quite as many extended plays that get little

(27:01):
sideways the point the nineteen yard sack once again, I
mean if you're gonna do that, that's an absolute drive killer.
The chances of you converting on that drive after taking
that big of a loss are infinitesimal, right, So you
gotta move on, cut bait, and move on with your life.
Continue to stack good plays, get me out of bad place.
You're gonna get fifteen ish third downs a game.

Speaker 5 (27:24):
Eight of them.

Speaker 9 (27:25):
You're gonna get exactly what you're expecting. You should have one, two,
three balls got to come out. If you got to
check it down, check it down. But those seven five
to seven third downs where you got to make great
decisions with the football in your hand. Remember that's the aspirations,
hopes and dreams of the entire franchise that you control
every snap. If you can make those great decisions in

(27:45):
those crunch time moments in the split second it takes
to say yes or no on a throw, I do
I cut this ball loose? Do I chance it will
levis up seventeen? You know, up a point late in
the game, You know what I mean? Like those kind
of that has to be the decision making and the
discernment that you need to keep your team in the game,

(28:06):
keep them in it till the fourth quarter. Then when
it's time to cut it loose, it's fourth down, you
gotta throw the Hail Mary whatever. Okay, that's fine, but
until then you better be sharp with your decision making
or else you're gonna give the game away.

Speaker 5 (28:18):
And a lot of these games are they're lost. Not one.
All right?

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Mark brings tape Caleb Williams, will Levis. I can't wait.
We may sneak in some US seed. They appear to
be the third best team in America. Mark Sanchez always
money Fox Sports NFL analysts joining us next.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
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Speaker 1 (28:45):
Mark Sanchez rams Cardinals for Eastern on Fox. Very interesting
for West Coast viewers, so I had said last week
Tennessee was one of my picks of the week last week,
and I said, listen three times at college Caleb completed
under fifty eight percent of his throws. He was fifty
percent in pre season. I like him, but with the
gms I talked to all pointed to one thing. He

(29:08):
has erratic accuracy, and they'd feel better if it was
an offensive culture, a Mcbeyah Shanahan, Kevin O'Connell to pull
him back into the fairway. Historically, Chicago's defensive coaches defensive culture.
So the concern is he's a little inconsistent on accuracy.
So when I watched the Tennessee game, it's hard the

(29:28):
pass rush roma Dunze's a rookie. I don't want to
be too judgmental. A little concerning for me. He missed
a couple open guys, So you have tape teach me something?

Speaker 5 (29:39):
Yeah, so are we do? You want to start with Levis.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Or start with Caleb?

Speaker 5 (29:42):
Ok?

Speaker 9 (29:43):
Yeah, that's find me. So I think one of the
things understanding the big picture is what Stafford did so
well the other night, okay, right, Understanding what his limitations
were personnel wise, up front, understanding what the defense is
doing to him, and that comes with time. Your first
game as a rookie at home, the weight of the
world is on your shoulders. You got to be Sid Luckman,

(30:05):
you got to be Jim McMahon. I mean, jeez, Louis.
It's there's a lot going into it. So your ability
to lock in and focus is based on a plan.
Knowing who you're going against, Who's who's my opponent?

Speaker 5 (30:15):
What do they do well?

Speaker 9 (30:17):
Denard Wilson, the defensive coordinator from the Tennessee Titans. It's
his first year coordinating, but you couldn't tell. I mean,
it looked great what he had, But you know he's
a pressure guy. He was under Greg Williams for a while.
That's like one of his mentors. What does Greg Williams do?
They call him doctor Heat for a reason. He's gonna
light you up and he's gonna bring looks that you've
never seen, unscouted stuff.

Speaker 5 (30:36):
It's week one.

Speaker 9 (30:38):
You better have your head on a swivel and be
ready to put out some fires.

Speaker 5 (30:42):
And have a contingency plan. So what does that look like?

Speaker 9 (30:44):
I need three options for all out pressure or uncomfortable
looks where I can just spit the ball out a
couple of them. I want to be able to motion
somebody down, block it up, and if they fool me
and back out of there, I check it down and
move on. And if they do, bring the house and
I got it blocked up and it's one on one downfield,
go gash them. Go make them pay for trying to

(31:05):
take your head off, right, That's how you got to
approach this thing, but I need at least three options.
So when you watch this tape, they're going to get
to an empty formation. They're going to motion Travis Homer
out of the backfield. There goes Kenneth Murray to guard them,
so you know it's man and man across the board.
Now my problem area is going.

Speaker 5 (31:20):
To be up top.

Speaker 9 (31:21):
You see these guys five for five matching everybody, but
up top they got a nickel over number three, Gerald
Everett and a safety behind him. That's where my attention
should be. On the left. That's my problem, Ariya. It's
two for two down here. I'm not worried about down here.
So what does Denard Wilson do? He brings the nickel
off the top, drops their two best pass rushers into
the void that they're leaving By bringing that nickel to ruin.

(31:42):
Caleb shot to throw it quickly to the right, and
his eyes are clearly to the right. He's looking at
Keenan right away. So now it gets him late to
the backside where I don't believe you should be throwing
an inside slot fade as a second read.

Speaker 5 (31:56):
That's an alert. I want your eyes there.

Speaker 9 (31:57):
I want you to see the relationship, especially with the
pocket that clean. You gotta set into that throw and
see that. The only thing I don't want you watching
on an inside slot fade is if you're holding that
free safety. I'm holding the safety and then I'm getting
a feel for that relationship with my slot receiver and
the defender over him.

Speaker 5 (32:16):
Is there space? Is he out running them? Do I
put it right on him?

Speaker 9 (32:19):
Because the DB's over the top, he can't figure that out,
and he's reacting and throwing at the same time. I
think a lot of this is the starting point of
his eyes and then his drop integrity. He gets a
little shuffley at the top of his drop and it's
not defined if it's a five step I want to
see five steps. Hit your back foot, quick reset ball out.
That will help his accuracy down the field. But if

(32:40):
you're going to react and throw and kind of shuffle
off your back foot and launch it up in the air, your.

Speaker 5 (32:45):
Accuracy is just gonna plumb it exactly right.

Speaker 9 (32:48):
But so here's you know, when you watch tape of
him and you watch that high end zone clip, the
eye in the sky never lies. The stripe on your
helmet will tell me the story of your eyes. If
you don't have the stripe those two seeds on the
side of his helmet. Yeah, the details are in that logo.

Speaker 5 (33:03):
Right.

Speaker 9 (33:04):
If I see both logos on a bunch of plays
in a row, my man's looking at too much stuff, right,
There's too much going on. And that was Denard Wilson's plan.
Make him think at the end of this game. If
I'm Denard Wilson, I'm happy flying home on that plane.
If Caleb's brain is completely scrambled, that's that's my end goal.
Because if he scrambled, he doesn't know where to go
with the football. If he don't know where to go

(33:24):
with the football, we got him right, And that's essentially
the situation they put him in. And it was tough
to watch because he's so talented and he's gonna get there.
He's gonna figure this out. This was one of the
best learning experiences for him because they got the w right.
Usually you play like that and win a game, no chance. Right,

(33:45):
I've literally done it. I've thrown three picks and won
a game because our defense was awesome.

Speaker 5 (33:50):
Right.

Speaker 9 (33:50):
They kept getting us the ball back and I'd give
it right back away. And it's these lessons are hard
to learn, but it takes the sting out of it
a little bit when you win the game. So bottom
line is he the w which is really hard to
come by, especially the way he played. So now what
how do you move on? How do you get better
from this? And I really think it's the starting point
of his eyes. Just get off on the right foot.
Just start me off in the right direction with my

(34:12):
eyes and then define those drops because that'll help with
his timing and his accuracy.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Okay, Will Levis Yeah to me, I'll just tell you
what my take is. He's a bit mechanical, not quite
fluid enough, very mechanical, very ripped. I wish he was
a little looser. But this whatever, that's just my you know,
don't know what I'm talking about. View. What does the
tape say? What did he struggle with most? You know?

Speaker 9 (34:33):
I think for Will that was his tenth start he
had nine last year, And I think one of the
biggest takeaways from him is the big picture of view.
I want him to understand the aerial view of the parade.
I want him to get that ingrained in his brain
because when you jump out to a seventeen point lead
on the road with a rookie quarterback on the other side,

(34:54):
feeling the boo birds of Chicago coming out and booing
him like crazy, dude, this is the chant. Hey kick
that thing into cruise control. Give me fifty five miles
an hour middle lane of the highway. No risk right now,
absolutely no risk. No need to attack this thing. If
they give you a perfect look and somebody's wide open, heck, yes, man,

(35:16):
cut it loose and be you go handle it.

Speaker 5 (35:19):
But there's no need to put the ball in harm's way.

Speaker 9 (35:22):
So when you watch his first play, they're doing a
similar thing, using motion to try and get a good
look at the defense. Clear up the picture. Nobody runs
with them. You know you're gonna get some sort of zone.
They got a nickel and Kyler Gordon on the snap over.
Calvin Ridley pressed up. He's got blitz eyes looking inside. Boom,
there comes the pressure. Will Levis is looking at Calvin

(35:43):
Ridley for a quick answer to get this ball out now.
I'm not sitting in their meetings. I don't know what
they're hot in sight structure is, but that's an.

Speaker 5 (35:50):
Easy outlet right there. Get rid of it.

Speaker 9 (35:52):
They do an excellent job up front of bringing the
pressure from the right side with these three players and
then having Edwards over the guard. Edwards over the guard,
keeps the guard inside to get the free runner, and
then he pops out. That ball's got to come out
to Ridley before Edwards makes a play. He bluffs the
blitz and gets out to cover. Now Levis feels the

(36:14):
pressure has to drift to the left seese. This guy,
he's not open. He wants to throw it. He wants
to throw He even pumps it for a second right there.
You fall down, You fall down this extra ugh, I
gotta make the play.

Speaker 5 (36:25):
I got it.

Speaker 9 (36:26):
You're up a point. These guys are already coming back.
The momentum is starting to shift. Don't let that defense
who's a bouquet of you know, Venus fly traps. They
led the league in interceptions last year. They were number
one against the run. I mean, don't even give him
a chance to come back in this game. You're already
owning the ball game.

Speaker 5 (36:47):
That's the big picture view.

Speaker 9 (36:48):
I want him to get to and if he can
eliminate that and the drive with the kick field goal,
Pat punt right there, Just punt, move on with your life.

Speaker 5 (36:56):
Cut bait and let's go.

Speaker 9 (36:58):
But that that's gonna be crucial because he's got to
understand what wins games, but he also has to understand
what loses games.

Speaker 5 (37:03):
That can lose a game quickly.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Miller moss uc now you know him because of high
school in southern California, which you know, the litany of schools. Sure,
I said this a couple of weeks ago. That kid
on platform, moving right, just short screens. He is accurate. Absolutely,
this looks like a real team.

Speaker 5 (37:27):
It looks like.

Speaker 9 (37:29):
You know, conversely to what we just mentioned with Will Levis,
like I think he really does get the big picture.
He's not the most athletic guy. Nope, he doesn't have
the biggest arm. So he is forced, right that necessity
breeds these kind of things, right, He has to find
a way to get completions, to steal completions from the pocket.
And he can't run around all game and look for

(37:50):
the guy in street ball and whatever like that's not
his game. So he's got to understand leverage, spatial awareness,
anticipation because he doesn't have the cannon for an arm
that I see him open, I see him open, foom
and add a little extra juice on the football to
get it before the window closes to complete the ball.
So because of that, you can tell he's a very

(38:12):
cerebral point guard that can distribute and gets the big
picture why we're running these plays where my potential issues are. Now,
it's only been a two game sample. They got a
bye week and then they go to Michigan, So Michigan's
not gonna be happy obviously after they got smacked a
little bit week one. That's gonna be a tough place
to play. There's a lot of things that still come

(38:32):
into play that way, but for the most part, everything
I've seen has been nails and they're looking up. I
think he kind of got the benefit of the doubt
of flying under the radar a little bit. You know,
he's not Caleb, so he can kind of, you know,
sit back, relaxing surprise some people.

Speaker 5 (38:48):
But there's tape out now.

Speaker 9 (38:50):
You know, these these defensive coordinators, they live to ruin
your game day, so they're gonna be standing up all
night trying to figure out, Okay, we can't let them
scramble to the right. Whatever we do, just cut off
the right, yeah, okay, and make him beat us to
the left. If he beats us to the left. Fine,
we got to take away his first and second option,
force him to get to number three, that kind of thing.
We got to eliminate some of that space in the
pocket and eliminate some of these quick throws for him

(39:12):
so he doesn't get.

Speaker 5 (39:13):
Off to such a hot start.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
It's fun, though, Oh it's awesome.

Speaker 5 (39:17):
I'm glad football's back.

Speaker 9 (39:18):
Other than I mean, what was going on on a
Tuesday at your house last night?

Speaker 5 (39:21):
You said ice creams, cigars.

Speaker 9 (39:24):
Like that's like a laundry place with scissor sharpening and pancakes.

Speaker 5 (39:28):
What is going on?

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Well, there was no game. It was just it was
just it was the debate, and so I said, I
don't have anything to cover. I just want to.

Speaker 5 (39:39):
Debate last night.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Yeah, hotly contested. Oh got it, just one signs blaming
the moderators. The outer side's happy. I'm not going to
get into it. Oh man, boy, you're good at this.
Appreciate it, man, it's really really good at this. You
know one of these weeks, Well, Arizona Rams, I'm jealous
of you.

Speaker 5 (39:58):
It's gonna be fun.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
That's that is Owen two's trouble in this league.

Speaker 5 (40:03):
Duel in the Desert, big divisional matchup it is now.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
I think mcveig has owned this one. I think I
think he's done really well in this But you know,
Owen two got ten percent chance to make the playoffs
and the NFC, as you know, is much better. There's
some the bottom of the NFC is pretty small. There's
a couple of bads, but that's about it.
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