November 13, 2024 • 27 mins
Colin discusses Klay Thompson's first game in the Bay Area since departing the Warriors and how Golden State managed this situation perfectly. He lists the top Super Bowl contenders and tells you which teams are being held back by a fatal flaw. Plus, 6-time Super Bowl champion Josh McDaniels joins the show in studio to talk about developing young quarterbacks and coaching under Bill Belichick.
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
It is a Wednesday. We are live in Los Angeles.
It is the Herd wherever you may be, however you
may be watching. Thanks for megan us part of your day.
Josh McDaniels in studio today, Joel Klatt in studio today,
Mark Sanjiz in studio today. Van veiled the twelve team
college football Playoff. We'll talk to Clatt about that interesting
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stuff today. Jmac, Well, I know you were watching Jmac,
your beloved Dallas Maverick And actually it's one of those
regular seats at NBA game That was a little bit
of a showcase. The players knew they were on TV,
and they knew everybody was watching. Because Klay Thompson, the
former Warrior Great, came back now a member of the Mavericks,
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so everybody was watching. You could see the energy and
the effort level of the players was through the roof.
It was one of those nights where you know the
kids were around it and I was like, guys, look
at this matchup. Oh my gosh, the mads are going off.
They're like, Dad, I thought we rooted for Steph Curry.
I'm like, oh, we can root for both. It was
a great night at basketball. Yeah, Warriors continue, they're nine
and two and they beat the Mavericks. But it was
about Klay Thompson. Klay Thompson came back. They gave fans
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the Klay Thompson hat. He's a legendary voter. He played well.
They had a video. It was wonderful. It was sweet, romanticizing,
very special night and now everybody can go their own way.
Warriors are better without him, Dallas is better with him.
Sports trees do not grow to the sky. You have
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to factor in age, contract and injuries with older players.
Get out of this whole. Warriors owed him anything. Have
you ever run a business that's not how it works?
What can you deliver? Now? If you're a top executive
or a top athlete, I'm not paying you for seven
years ago. They treated him well. They paid him two
hundred and sixty million dollars. It's a world class organization.
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You don't give out lifetime achievement contracts. They do that
in Hollywood and it's usually cringey. Nobody was disrespected here. Again,
there's salary caps. It's grown ups. I think what happened.
And Clay was getting very streaky. He was sort of
becoming a ghost in the playoffs, and defensively he used
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to be a great player, but there's so many injuries.
He became a little bit of a little bit of
a liability, sometimes not a little bit. And the Warriors said, listen,
we're going to offer you a role, reduce salary. It'll
be a role. And he didn't like the offer. And
I have noah problem with the Warriors offering him a
reduced role and reduce salary. And I have no problem
with Klay Thompson saying, no, ma's gonna pay me more
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and need me more. That's called sports. San Antonio, Tony Parker,
Manu Ginobli accepted roles as they age, and here comes
Kawhi Leonard and we're getting younger and we have to
And they accepted their Roles Klay Thompson's like, I'm not
gonna I've been at the top of the mountain here.
I was the number one two guard in the league
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for a long time. We got the name Splash Brothers.
Probably the best backcourt ever, certainly in the Jerry West
Gale Goodrich class. It was a great and he deserved
all of it, and they paid him and they treated
him well, but he didn't like his role. And I think,
what is this. I've seen this with guys. A lot
of us guys collected baseball cards as kids, you know,
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and then we got girlfriends and grew up. But a
lot of you guys never ever lose that childhood devotion
to your athletes. They move on. It's a business. Why
is everybody in the NBA chasing the Boston Celtics. They
moved off cage Ian Paul Pierce. They got a bunch
of picks, and those picks became Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown.
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That's why everybody's chasing him, because they hit on two picks.
And then they find Derek White, go get him somewhere,
and poor Zingis and make moves and now they're easily
the best team in the NBA. So it's twenty twenty four.
Sports is an incredibly cold business. And that's okay. Everybody
knows it is. Nobody's losing sleep. That doesn't mean last
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night wasn't cool, wasn't special. I felt the Warriors could
have treated this a lot of different ways, but they
wanted to make sure. Look at the crowd, it's great.
They all got Clay hats. Claim mean a lot to
these people. But you know what means more now the
future and signing him to a long deal, a lifetime
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achievement contract that paralyzes franchises for a decade, and you
know what I mean, Clay is going to be great
in Dallas. They need a catch and shoeguck. They got
Kyrie and Luca. Those guys always have the ball in
their Clay is perfect in Dallas. He's a catch and
shoot guy. You can give him the ball with three
minutes on the three seconds on the clock, boom, hits
a three. But he was appreciative. I think it meant
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a lot to the Warriors. It meant a ton of
the fans, and here was a really nice guy after.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
It was a really cool experience. I appreciate the fans
very much. The captain's hat ended up being a great touch.
So I'm such a passionate boter and saw a lot
of familiar faces in the crowded. That was a warm
hearted feeling. So it was really cool to see the
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fans were there. Gratitude towards myself and someone will never
take for granted.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Wonderful guy, wonderful moment, terrific night. Touched a lot of people,
and this is a nice bow on the present. Everybody
is better served. Frankly, Clay Thompson is better served not
being a warrior. He'll be a much more important player
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on a warrior team that is basically now Steph, Draymond,
Wiggins and kids. It is a deep roster. They play
a ton of guys, they play a bunch of minutes.
They're long, their athletic Steph still elite, Draymon it what
he does still elite. Wiggins. Eh, they're stuck with a contract.
They just didn't want to be stuck with two contracts.
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Great night. Way to go, Clay. All right, So the
Bears moved off yesterday offensive coordinator Shane Waldron. So now
the stories trickle out. Bears players went to the head
coach and the GM, Matt Eberflus, Ryan Poles, and they said,
get Shane outa here. Some of the older players, veteran
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players wanted to bench Caleb Williams for his backup. Benching
Caleb Williams is not the solution. Fixing him as the solution.
Veteran pro athletes don't have any patients because they see
the end of their careers coming and the end of
their contracts. It's why players should play, not coaching GM.
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Look at Lebron's teams when he leaves, they're a mess
teams let him GM. Older players have agendas, their contracts,
their stats, and their careers. I mean, have you seen
what the New York Jets look like? They handed too
much power to Aaron Rodgers. And what was Aaron doing
as an older player seeking familiarity and seeking comfort. He
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didn't care about the jets plans. He cared about Aaron Rodgers.
And you know, if I was older broadcaster, of course,
I'm still so young now, maybe that's what I'd care about.
But I mean, you can't lose patience on this. First
of all, young quarterbacks is a roller coaster ride. Let's
just take a look at bo Nick's Remember how bad
bo Nicks was in the first two starts. You guys
were all bailing on him. Colin, you don't know what
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you're talking about. This guy's no good. You're you're you
just listened to show on Peyton Sean Payton. You tax
your buddies. Hey, I'm like, no, He's a rookie on
a pretty average roster with one or maybe two really
good offensive linemen. Bow Nick's first two weeks no touchdowns,
four turnovers and a forty seven passer rating. Should you
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bench him?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Shane Waldron's not an elite coach. Bears are not an
elite organization. Caleb Williams is a rookie. This was gonna
be bumpy. I'll give you a great example. We love
c J Stroud. C J Stroud last year had a
three game stretch. C J Stroud, y'all love him. I
do three game stretch, fifty seven percent completion rate. You
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remember that. And by the way, he's had a couple
stinkers this year. And that's the guy we love with
a great left tackle with great weapons, Love his coach,
love his coordinator, I mean, we love everything he's around.
He had a month last year no good and so's
got eight games left and the Bears are four and five,
And I went on this show, we got the audio somewhere,
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and I predicted they'd be I kept asking, what if
they're a seven win team? But you feel better about
Caleb than Justin Fields. And my guess if you look
at their schedule, they're gonna be a seven win team.
There's some wins in there, but they're gonna be tough.
Green Bay at home, Minnesota at home. They need to
get at least one win there, but at Detroit and
San Francisco at Minnesota that could be a three game skid.
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They get Detroit and Seattle at home, go to Green Bay.
I think they got about three more wins in them,
and that's about where they should be. I mean, nobody thought,
none of you who are Bears fans or not Bears fans,
you didn't think eber Fluse and Shane Waldron were the
Andy Reid and Spags of the next generation. Now Washington,
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in my opinion, did it the right way. They cleaned house.
They said, we're going to get this numb young quarterback
Jaden Daniels, new coach, new coordinator, new owner, new GM.
Everything was new we're all the same timeline. Chicago made
a choice. You and I knew probably it wasn't gonna work.
Eberflus was on the hot seat week one in preseason.
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We were already trying to kind of pick apart what
he was. So they decided, because the Bears are cheap
and don't have great vision, especially on the offensive side
of the ball, let's just keep everybody. Yeah, we'll just
change the coordinator, same president, same owner, same coach, same
Washington to the opposite. It's been a flying success Bears.
We all knew this isn't gonna work. We all knew
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it at the time. And you also have Eberflus is
just coaching to save his job. Caleb's just trying to
get better. So they have different visions right now. Eberflus urgency,
Caleb patience, trying to get better every week, every pass,
every series. So this has take a deep breath time.
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The solution is not listening. Thankfully the Bears didn't. It's
not listening to older players. They're loyal to their contracts,
they're loyal to their careers. Aaron to the New York
Jets is a great example. He sought comfort, he sought familiarity.
He didn't care about the Jets' long term plans. You
can screw this kit up if you sit him long,
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long runway here. I mean, we just moved the jet.
It's doing to you. It's doing a you turn right now,
just trying to get on the runway. It's not even
on the runway yet. So j Mack, Josh McDaniel's shown
up in studio this hour. I saw something this morning
that made me laugh. With the Dallas Cowboys. It's not
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gonna be a cowboy topic. Please don't turn the channel.
It's not gonna be a cowboy topic. Didn't you think
the Cowboys and the Jets were two of the more
interesting teams starting the season, and now both of them
are headed towards I didn't think the Jets were so interesting,
I said, not great interesting. I think Aaron's complex. But
you know what's funny in our show, we get our
management will give us a couple times during the football season.
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They'll give us research on what teams are hot, what
players are hot, And we just got some of that. Oh,
Aaron Rodgers is no longer popular. I like how you
say us, I haven't seen that. I haven't seen that
data slide that by way, Aaron Rodgers. Nobody cares. They
want to talk about Lamar and Josh Allen and they
want to talk about Mahomes. Goodness, the New York Giants
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test better than the New York Jets, because when you
haven't made the playoffs in over a decade, come on,
no aeron topics. I mentioned him today a couple of times,
but no topics. It's the new world we live in.
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Speaker 1 (12:41):
He began his career as a grad assistant Michigan State
under Nick Saban Bill Belichick. Six trophies there several seasons.
NFL head coach Broncos and Raiders. Josh McDaniels is now
joining us. We've never officially met. I think we've you
may have come on before when you were the Raiders coach.
You were coming on the zoom time during COVID that
kind of I got so many things to ask him.
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Let's start with this. So we watched these young quarterbacks.
I tended to think I thought Peyton and Boenix was
a good fit. I worried greatly about Caleb in Chicago's history.
If you were just privately talking how many starts, Josh,
do you need with a rookie quarterback before you are
driving home and maybe calling an assistant thinking I'm not
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sure we got him, or he'll be fine, we got him.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
I think you need to give a time. I think
there's no question, you know, a few games here or
there is not going to tell you all the things
you need to know about whether or not he's going
to be able to do all the things he needs
to do to win at this level.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
I mean Jimmy was not going to be ready right
off the bat three years in in twenty sixteen, you know,
he had to start in Tom's absence, and he was
able to do that. He learned and developed and was
much more ready to do that.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Then.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
I think they're all different now, honestly, they're all coming
from different backgrounds, some different systems than others.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
And then I think it really what matters most is
that marriage of the quarterback. What he's learned, what he's
good at, where is he going, what type of system
are they going to implement implement there with him and
whether they're willing to adapt to his skill set and
what he does well, you know that. I think you're
seeing some of that now with Jaden with yeah, definitely,
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and and they're doing things that he's good at, you know.
And I think what Cliff's probably you know, doing now
is is what else can we add to his bucket?
You know, he he does these things well, now we
want to keep develop him, you know, evolve him as
he goes throughout, you know, his his career here and
and see what else we can add to him.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Do you worry about Caleb Williams? Accuracy, inconsistency? Are there
things you can't clean up?
Speaker 4 (14:54):
I think you can. You can always make things better.
And I haven't seen everything that Caleb had done. Certainly,
Caleb was you know, very well regarded coming out of
USC and had a great career there. And I think
all all these young quarterbacks come out and they find
life in the NFL is a little different. The windows
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are tighter, yeah, the coverages are different, the looks, the
disguises force you to hold the ball and have to
do different things with it. And so I think, you know,
give them time, you know, you know they're gonna make
some mistakes, They're going to learn and again, I know
they just made a shift or a change there, and
we'll see if that changes some of the success that
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he's having.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
You know, it's I've said this over the last month,
the Chiefs have become the Patriots. I'm not sure they
have the best roster, but I'm sure they have the
best head coach, best quarterback and one of the best
coordinators on either side. That was you. I'm also sure situationally,
they are smarter than you are. That's what you guys
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were for twenty years. You'd bring out that Edelman pass
against the Ravengine, You're like, how did they not use
that six weeks ago? That's a beauty, That's a gem
and you had to hide it? What it was? It
just you and Brady and Bill? Is it just people?
The Chiefs have become you guys. They're not always the
best team, but they literally played their best football goal
line stand late third down. Yea, what is it lot
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of field goal? Yeah, they could have done that in
the first quarter. Yeah, they hid that puppy until the
last play of the game. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
I think they care about winning. I think they I
think they have a lot of guys that are selfless
there and Andy, you know, he's obviously been doing this
for a long time and he's got that entire culture,
you know, buying into winnings the only thing that's really
important at the end of the day. And you saw
it with Kelsey early in the year. Wasn't catching a
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lot of passes. But you didn't hear about any bickering
or complaining or anything like that, because I think they've
really figured out, you know, what's most important is how
do we play as a team against this opponent this
week and be victorious. And so I think Pat's matured.
He understands what he needs to do each week. Some
weeks it's throw forty six times for three hundred and
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fifty yards. Other weeks that's throw for one hundred and
fifty yards and one touchdown. You know, but Patrick's kind
of put his ego aside, not that he ever had
one like that, but he knows that I have to
play a certain way to give our team the best
chance to win. I thought Tom did that for years
and years in New England, and it's just gonna be
hard to beat them. You know, you're you're gonna have
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to play your a game. You're gonna have to be
really good situationally, really, you know, really good situationally, and
you're gonna have to, you know, fight tooth and nail
to out coach them, you know, which is very difficult
for anybody to do.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Owners are all billionaires now, Robert Kraft, like Jerry Jones
when they bought the Patriots, I mean they were bailing water.
Do you just make rent right there? Now they're all
billionaires firing a staff as a rounding air moving off
co which is David Tepper and Carolina five six games
in Robert Salacia. It feels like owner's wealth has created
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more of an impulsive feel and that staffs are feeling it.
Staffs are tougher staffs. Did you never felt that in
New England? But you probably felt it with the Raiders.
Do you think it's affecting coaching in this league? You're
forced to be impatient because they're impatient.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
I think you definitely have an urgency that you feel
now in the league. I don't know you're right about
the New England situation. I never felt that I felt
urgency to do my best. I think we all did
to try to win. But I think you're seeing that
more and more that there's a very short shelf life
on opportunity and the urgency to do well and show
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that you know exactly how to improve and make progress.
It's evident, you know, it's evident across the league, and
whether it's quarterback changes, coaching changes, coordinator changes, that's certainly
part of our game.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Now.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
We all have to accept that, we all understand the
life that we live, and you know, I hope it
doesn't affect decision making and things that you think are
the right things to do for the organization. But I
certainly I know there's a premium on winning quickly, that's
for sure.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
I always defended when you and Tom would have the
once a season blow up on the sidelines. My take is,
I mean, really, three and a half hours, it's on television.
I'm on television. There are public jobs. It's not always pretty.
You're doing stuff live. I can't hide in an accountant's
office during the week. Though. With you and Tom, when
would you present the game plan? Was it a give
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and take, a back and forth or would you present
the install on Tuesday Wednesday? Tom goes along with it,
did tom push back a lot on installs.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
I think the more Tom played, the more success he had,
the more he understood what he liked and what he
didn't like. It certainly became a huge back and forth
for us. I mean I have emails that are pages
and pages long of things that he liked and things
that he didn't like, you know, And that's I think
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that's what you have to do nowadays, is when you
know the quarterback has has thoughts and opinions and ideas of.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
What he feels good about.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Yeah, you certainly have to take all that in and
then try to figure out exactly what's the right blend
of things that fit that week against that team. And
Tommy was not shy about giving input on those kind
of things, and he earned it, earned every bit of it.
And so we usually would be emailing on Monday, Tuesday,
and then obviously we'd practice Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and try
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to nail it down. But we were emailing on Friday
night and Saturday morning as well to try to finalize
the game plan. And I just think that you know,
when you have a guy like him, Pat Mahomes, Alan Lamar,
you know these guys that have certainly had a tremendous
amount of individual success team success. They've earned the right
to give you their input, and you need to take
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that input in and try to figure out how to
utilize it the best way.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Bill had admiration and great respect for you. Brought you back.
Obviously you had great success together. How often on the
headset would Bill say, Josh, you're not doing that reverse here, Josh,
we're running the football? Or did he give you carte blanche.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
He was really good about letting you kind of get
into the rhythm and flow of the game. He may say, hey,
can you stick a run in here? I want to
get it down to the two minute warning, something like
that situation. Or he would say, hey, you got four
downs here to get the first down. You know it's
third and three and you know at a thirty seven,
Hey you got two downs. Go ahead and try to
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do whatever you want to do here. But he definitely
did a great job of just guiding us. You know,
he didn't overdo it on the headset. It's hard to
do that, you know, when you got a guy in
a rhythm, he's calling plays, he's trying to set things up,
it's hard to really interject too much, and I thought
Bill was great at that.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Did he ever say after a game you were great?
I don't know if he ever said that.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
You might have patted me on the back once or twice,
but you knew when you knew, when you did a
good job. He definitely let you know that in certain ways,
might not have been the way somebody else did it,
but he did.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Okay, you felt respected. I did. I did. Oh. I'd
love to have you back anytime you're around families in town.
I know your dad, you said, occasionally watches the show
and he must be bored out of his mind. I
appreciate that. Hi Dad, Josh McDaniels, please come again. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
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Speaker 1 (22:37):
Live in LA. It's the Herd. Wherever you may be,
however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part
of your day. I've wanted to talk to Josh, and
I talked to him about five minutes off the air.
All sorts of good stuff, All sorts of good stuff.
I was thinking about this, j Mac. The three teams
I think today that are most likely to win the
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Super Bowl for Kansas City, Detroit, and Buffalo. Now Buffalo's
all banged up. They may not look good this weekend.
I'll say, did you say no Ravens? No Ravens? And
you know I love the Ravens. WHOA what's that about?
It's a very good question, very good question. It's about
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the difference between fatal and a blemish. My kids can
fail a test, don't flunk out of the class. That's
the difference between a blemish and a fatal flaw. You
can get a D, don't get a D in the class.
So I'll give you an example. I think teams that
I really like all have a fatal flaw. Let's take Baltimore.
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They've allowed an NFL worst forty nine plays of twenty
or more yards. You can't win a super Bowl with that.
No team has ever ranked bottom three in pass defense
and won a Super Bowl, So it's a fatal flaw.
I think the forty nine ers. They're atrocious on special teams,
twenty third ranked special teams. There is a they're thirty
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first in special teams according to DVA, which is analytic,
and it would bore everybody. I don't think it's like
having a bad bullpen. You cannot be bad on special teams,
as Kansas City showed to Denver, you will be exposed
by the Belichicks and Andy Reids and spags of the Packers.
Jordan Love I like him a lot. He is reckless.
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That's why Josh Allen de nev a trophy, not a
lack of talent. It's reckless. Eight straight games with one
or more picks. He leads the NFL in picks. Packers
are by the way, six to twelve in games when
he has one or more picks. Only two quarterbacks ever
won a Super Bowl after leading the league in picks,
Stafford and Eli Manning. And Eli Manning won that thing
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by the che Chargers. You know I love the Chargers.
They have limited playmakers, no Pro Bowl among the skill
position group. You don't need four, you gotta have one.
They don't have a number one receiver. Lad mcconky's a
solid rookie. Two twenty second rate passing offense, and they
rate twentieth in big plays, meaning their only way to
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score is long drives. What happens with long drives eventually
turnovers and penalties. Eagles Nick Ceriani, I do worry against
the best coaches in good spots. Now they are the
one team with a fatal flaw. It may only be
a blemish because I love I love their roster. I
think it's the best roster in the league. But this
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is the third straight season with different coordinators, So do
they have that continuity you need in an overtime playoff game?
And then the Commanders another team I really really like.
No rookie quarterbacks ever reached the Super Bowl. I can
like him, I don't love him for the Super Bowl.
And Jayden Daniels. Now let's go to the blemish teams.
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So those are the fatal flaw teams that I liked
a lot, but I think there's a fatal flaw. I
could be wrong on Sirianni. A lot of people like it.
Here the blemish teams. My three favorites the Chiefs wide receivers.
Yet since de Hap arrived, they're number one in receptions
and number four in receiving yards. So de Hap has
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solved the problem. And I actually liked him in the
first couple of games where Rashi Rice remember the first
couple games, We're like, oh, they got number one. D
Hop may not be a great one, but you can
tell Mahomes likes him. You can tell Mahomes trusted him.
Travis Kelce, by the way last three games, leads the
NFL thirty two catches. So what we thought was a
flaw has become a blemish. Detroit lost Aiden Hutchison the
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other four no Since losing Aiden Hutchison, they have right
now the second highest graded defense, and a lot of
that's without Aiden Hutchison. I don't always love the back end,
and I wish they had a slightly better pass rush,
but they have the best third down defense in the league.
So it's not a fatal flaw. It is a blemish.
It would be better with Aiden Hutchinson and the Bills.
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I think we all acknowledge the perimeter. We don't really
trust they have James Cooke, we trust the run game.
We don't love the receivers. But I think a mari
Cooper now this week of Mariy Cooper's banged up, keyon
Coleman's banged up. But the Chiefs have won back to
back Super Bowls without having the best receiver room in
the league, and ten different Bills have caught touchdown passes.
So though they don't have a dominant one They've got
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a ton of depth. I don't even know if Amari
Cooper's will one at this point, and I think he's
a great two. He's omor on Saint Brown, maybe he's
d hop. Jacoby Myers with the Raiders is a great two.
So and Allen by the way, targeting his receivers this
year is sixty seven percent completion percentage. So the teams
I think should be favorite. I think coaching is too
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good in the NFL at the highest levels, the playoff.
Coaches that if you have a fatal flaw, it'll be exposed.
Blemish's Chiefs, Lions Bills. That's why they're my favorite
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It is the Herd wherever you may be, however you
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Josh McDaniels in studio today, Joel Klatt in studio today,
Mark Sanjiz in studio today. Van veiled the twelve team
college football Playoff. We'll talk to Clatt about that interesting
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stuff today. Jmac, Well, I know you were watching Jmac,
your beloved Dallas Maverick And actually it's one of those
regular seats at NBA game That was a little bit
of a showcase. The players knew they were on TV,
and they knew everybody was watching. Because Klay Thompson, the
former Warrior Great, came back now a member of the Mavericks,
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so everybody was watching. You could see the energy and
the effort level of the players was through the roof.
It was one of those nights where you know the
kids were around it and I was like, guys, look
at this matchup. Oh my gosh, the mads are going off.
They're like, Dad, I thought we rooted for Steph Curry.
I'm like, oh, we can root for both. It was
a great night at basketball. Yeah, Warriors continue, they're nine
and two and they beat the Mavericks. But it was
about Klay Thompson. Klay Thompson came back. They gave fans
(01:33):
the Klay Thompson hat. He's a legendary voter. He played well.
They had a video. It was wonderful. It was sweet, romanticizing,
very special night and now everybody can go their own way.
Warriors are better without him, Dallas is better with him.
Sports trees do not grow to the sky. You have
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to factor in age, contract and injuries with older players.
Get out of this whole. Warriors owed him anything. Have
you ever run a business that's not how it works?
What can you deliver? Now? If you're a top executive
or a top athlete, I'm not paying you for seven
years ago. They treated him well. They paid him two
hundred and sixty million dollars. It's a world class organization.
(02:18):
You don't give out lifetime achievement contracts. They do that
in Hollywood and it's usually cringey. Nobody was disrespected here. Again,
there's salary caps. It's grown ups. I think what happened.
And Clay was getting very streaky. He was sort of
becoming a ghost in the playoffs, and defensively he used
(02:39):
to be a great player, but there's so many injuries.
He became a little bit of a little bit of
a liability, sometimes not a little bit. And the Warriors said, listen,
we're going to offer you a role, reduce salary. It'll
be a role. And he didn't like the offer. And
I have noah problem with the Warriors offering him a
reduced role and reduce salary. And I have no problem
with Klay Thompson saying, no, ma's gonna pay me more
(03:00):
and need me more. That's called sports. San Antonio, Tony Parker,
Manu Ginobli accepted roles as they age, and here comes
Kawhi Leonard and we're getting younger and we have to
And they accepted their Roles Klay Thompson's like, I'm not
gonna I've been at the top of the mountain here.
I was the number one two guard in the league
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for a long time. We got the name Splash Brothers.
Probably the best backcourt ever, certainly in the Jerry West
Gale Goodrich class. It was a great and he deserved
all of it, and they paid him and they treated
him well, but he didn't like his role. And I think,
what is this. I've seen this with guys. A lot
of us guys collected baseball cards as kids, you know,
(03:44):
and then we got girlfriends and grew up. But a
lot of you guys never ever lose that childhood devotion
to your athletes. They move on. It's a business. Why
is everybody in the NBA chasing the Boston Celtics. They
moved off cage Ian Paul Pierce. They got a bunch
of picks, and those picks became Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown.
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That's why everybody's chasing him, because they hit on two picks.
And then they find Derek White, go get him somewhere,
and poor Zingis and make moves and now they're easily
the best team in the NBA. So it's twenty twenty four.
Sports is an incredibly cold business. And that's okay. Everybody
knows it is. Nobody's losing sleep. That doesn't mean last
(04:26):
night wasn't cool, wasn't special. I felt the Warriors could
have treated this a lot of different ways, but they
wanted to make sure. Look at the crowd, it's great.
They all got Clay hats. Claim mean a lot to
these people. But you know what means more now the
future and signing him to a long deal, a lifetime
(04:47):
achievement contract that paralyzes franchises for a decade, and you
know what I mean, Clay is going to be great
in Dallas. They need a catch and shoeguck. They got
Kyrie and Luca. Those guys always have the ball in
their Clay is perfect in Dallas. He's a catch and
shoot guy. You can give him the ball with three
minutes on the three seconds on the clock, boom, hits
a three. But he was appreciative. I think it meant
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a lot to the Warriors. It meant a ton of
the fans, and here was a really nice guy after.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
It was a really cool experience. I appreciate the fans
very much. The captain's hat ended up being a great touch.
So I'm such a passionate boter and saw a lot
of familiar faces in the crowded. That was a warm
hearted feeling. So it was really cool to see the
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fans were there. Gratitude towards myself and someone will never
take for granted.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Wonderful guy, wonderful moment, terrific night. Touched a lot of people,
and this is a nice bow on the present. Everybody
is better served. Frankly, Clay Thompson is better served not
being a warrior. He'll be a much more important player
(06:03):
on a warrior team that is basically now Steph, Draymond,
Wiggins and kids. It is a deep roster. They play
a ton of guys, they play a bunch of minutes.
They're long, their athletic Steph still elite, Draymon it what
he does still elite. Wiggins. Eh, they're stuck with a contract.
They just didn't want to be stuck with two contracts.
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Great night. Way to go, Clay. All right, So the
Bears moved off yesterday offensive coordinator Shane Waldron. So now
the stories trickle out. Bears players went to the head
coach and the GM, Matt Eberflus, Ryan Poles, and they said,
get Shane outa here. Some of the older players, veteran
(06:51):
players wanted to bench Caleb Williams for his backup. Benching
Caleb Williams is not the solution. Fixing him as the solution.
Veteran pro athletes don't have any patients because they see
the end of their careers coming and the end of
their contracts. It's why players should play, not coaching GM.
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Look at Lebron's teams when he leaves, they're a mess
teams let him GM. Older players have agendas, their contracts,
their stats, and their careers. I mean, have you seen
what the New York Jets look like? They handed too
much power to Aaron Rodgers. And what was Aaron doing
as an older player seeking familiarity and seeking comfort. He
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didn't care about the jets plans. He cared about Aaron Rodgers.
And you know, if I was older broadcaster, of course,
I'm still so young now, maybe that's what I'd care about.
But I mean, you can't lose patience on this. First
of all, young quarterbacks is a roller coaster ride. Let's
just take a look at bo Nick's Remember how bad
bo Nicks was in the first two starts. You guys
were all bailing on him. Colin, you don't know what
(07:56):
you're talking about. This guy's no good. You're you're you
just listened to show on Peyton Sean Payton. You tax
your buddies. Hey, I'm like, no, He's a rookie on
a pretty average roster with one or maybe two really
good offensive linemen. Bow Nick's first two weeks no touchdowns,
four turnovers and a forty seven passer rating. Should you
(08:17):
bench him?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Shane Waldron's not an elite coach. Bears are not an
elite organization. Caleb Williams is a rookie. This was gonna
be bumpy. I'll give you a great example. We love
c J Stroud. C J Stroud last year had a
three game stretch. C J Stroud, y'all love him. I
do three game stretch, fifty seven percent completion rate. You
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remember that. And by the way, he's had a couple
stinkers this year. And that's the guy we love with
a great left tackle with great weapons, Love his coach,
love his coordinator, I mean, we love everything he's around.
He had a month last year no good and so's
got eight games left and the Bears are four and five,
And I went on this show, we got the audio somewhere,
(09:06):
and I predicted they'd be I kept asking, what if
they're a seven win team? But you feel better about
Caleb than Justin Fields. And my guess if you look
at their schedule, they're gonna be a seven win team.
There's some wins in there, but they're gonna be tough.
Green Bay at home, Minnesota at home. They need to
get at least one win there, but at Detroit and
San Francisco at Minnesota that could be a three game skid.
(09:27):
They get Detroit and Seattle at home, go to Green Bay.
I think they got about three more wins in them,
and that's about where they should be. I mean, nobody thought,
none of you who are Bears fans or not Bears fans,
you didn't think eber Fluse and Shane Waldron were the
Andy Reid and Spags of the next generation. Now Washington,
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in my opinion, did it the right way. They cleaned house.
They said, we're going to get this numb young quarterback
Jaden Daniels, new coach, new coordinator, new owner, new GM.
Everything was new we're all the same timeline. Chicago made
a choice. You and I knew probably it wasn't gonna work.
Eberflus was on the hot seat week one in preseason.
(10:10):
We were already trying to kind of pick apart what
he was. So they decided, because the Bears are cheap
and don't have great vision, especially on the offensive side
of the ball, let's just keep everybody. Yeah, we'll just
change the coordinator, same president, same owner, same coach, same
Washington to the opposite. It's been a flying success Bears.
We all knew this isn't gonna work. We all knew
(10:31):
it at the time. And you also have Eberflus is
just coaching to save his job. Caleb's just trying to
get better. So they have different visions right now. Eberflus urgency,
Caleb patience, trying to get better every week, every pass,
every series. So this has take a deep breath time.
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The solution is not listening. Thankfully the Bears didn't. It's
not listening to older players. They're loyal to their contracts,
they're loyal to their careers. Aaron to the New York
Jets is a great example. He sought comfort, he sought familiarity.
He didn't care about the Jets' long term plans. You
can screw this kit up if you sit him long,
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long runway here. I mean, we just moved the jet.
It's doing to you. It's doing a you turn right now,
just trying to get on the runway. It's not even
on the runway yet. So j Mack, Josh McDaniel's shown
up in studio this hour. I saw something this morning
that made me laugh. With the Dallas Cowboys. It's not
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gonna be a cowboy topic. Please don't turn the channel.
It's not gonna be a cowboy topic. Didn't you think
the Cowboys and the Jets were two of the more
interesting teams starting the season, and now both of them
are headed towards I didn't think the Jets were so interesting,
I said, not great interesting. I think Aaron's complex. But
you know what's funny in our show, we get our
management will give us a couple times during the football season.
(11:58):
They'll give us research on what teams are hot, what
players are hot, And we just got some of that. Oh,
Aaron Rodgers is no longer popular. I like how you
say us, I haven't seen that. I haven't seen that
data slide that by way, Aaron Rodgers. Nobody cares. They
want to talk about Lamar and Josh Allen and they
want to talk about Mahomes. Goodness, the New York Giants
(12:20):
test better than the New York Jets, because when you
haven't made the playoffs in over a decade, come on,
no aeron topics. I mentioned him today a couple of times,
but no topics. It's the new world we live in.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
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Speaker 1 (12:41):
He began his career as a grad assistant Michigan State
under Nick Saban Bill Belichick. Six trophies there several seasons.
NFL head coach Broncos and Raiders. Josh McDaniels is now
joining us. We've never officially met. I think we've you
may have come on before when you were the Raiders coach.
You were coming on the zoom time during COVID that
kind of I got so many things to ask him.
(13:01):
Let's start with this. So we watched these young quarterbacks.
I tended to think I thought Peyton and Boenix was
a good fit. I worried greatly about Caleb in Chicago's history.
If you were just privately talking how many starts, Josh,
do you need with a rookie quarterback before you are
driving home and maybe calling an assistant thinking I'm not
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sure we got him, or he'll be fine, we got him.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
I think you need to give a time. I think
there's no question, you know, a few games here or
there is not going to tell you all the things
you need to know about whether or not he's going
to be able to do all the things he needs
to do to win at this level.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
I mean Jimmy was not going to be ready right
off the bat three years in in twenty sixteen, you know,
he had to start in Tom's absence, and he was
able to do that. He learned and developed and was
much more ready to do that.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Then.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
I think they're all different now, honestly, they're all coming
from different backgrounds, some different systems than others.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
And then I think it really what matters most is
that marriage of the quarterback. What he's learned, what he's
good at, where is he going, what type of system
are they going to implement implement there with him and
whether they're willing to adapt to his skill set and
what he does well, you know that. I think you're
seeing some of that now with Jaden with yeah, definitely,
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and and they're doing things that he's good at, you know.
And I think what Cliff's probably you know, doing now
is is what else can we add to his bucket?
You know, he he does these things well, now we
want to keep develop him, you know, evolve him as
he goes throughout, you know, his his career here and
and see what else we can add to him.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Do you worry about Caleb Williams? Accuracy, inconsistency? Are there
things you can't clean up?
Speaker 4 (14:54):
I think you can. You can always make things better.
And I haven't seen everything that Caleb had done. Certainly,
Caleb was you know, very well regarded coming out of
USC and had a great career there. And I think
all all these young quarterbacks come out and they find
life in the NFL is a little different. The windows
(15:14):
are tighter, yeah, the coverages are different, the looks, the
disguises force you to hold the ball and have to
do different things with it. And so I think, you know,
give them time, you know, you know they're gonna make
some mistakes, They're going to learn and again, I know
they just made a shift or a change there, and
we'll see if that changes some of the success that
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he's having.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
You know, it's I've said this over the last month,
the Chiefs have become the Patriots. I'm not sure they
have the best roster, but I'm sure they have the
best head coach, best quarterback and one of the best
coordinators on either side. That was you. I'm also sure situationally,
they are smarter than you are. That's what you guys
(15:58):
were for twenty years. You'd bring out that Edelman pass
against the Ravengine, You're like, how did they not use
that six weeks ago? That's a beauty, That's a gem
and you had to hide it? What it was? It
just you and Brady and Bill? Is it just people?
The Chiefs have become you guys. They're not always the
best team, but they literally played their best football goal
line stand late third down. Yea, what is it lot
(16:22):
of field goal? Yeah, they could have done that in
the first quarter. Yeah, they hid that puppy until the
last play of the game. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
I think they care about winning. I think they I
think they have a lot of guys that are selfless
there and Andy, you know, he's obviously been doing this
for a long time and he's got that entire culture,
you know, buying into winnings the only thing that's really
important at the end of the day. And you saw
it with Kelsey early in the year. Wasn't catching a
(16:48):
lot of passes. But you didn't hear about any bickering
or complaining or anything like that, because I think they've
really figured out, you know, what's most important is how
do we play as a team against this opponent this
week and be victorious. And so I think Pat's matured.
He understands what he needs to do each week. Some
weeks it's throw forty six times for three hundred and
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fifty yards. Other weeks that's throw for one hundred and
fifty yards and one touchdown. You know, but Patrick's kind
of put his ego aside, not that he ever had
one like that, but he knows that I have to
play a certain way to give our team the best
chance to win. I thought Tom did that for years
and years in New England, and it's just gonna be
hard to beat them. You know, you're you're gonna have
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to play your a game. You're gonna have to be
really good situationally, really, you know, really good situationally, and
you're gonna have to, you know, fight tooth and nail
to out coach them, you know, which is very difficult
for anybody to do.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Owners are all billionaires now, Robert Kraft, like Jerry Jones
when they bought the Patriots, I mean they were bailing water.
Do you just make rent right there? Now they're all
billionaires firing a staff as a rounding air moving off
co which is David Tepper and Carolina five six games
in Robert Salacia. It feels like owner's wealth has created
(18:08):
more of an impulsive feel and that staffs are feeling it.
Staffs are tougher staffs. Did you never felt that in
New England? But you probably felt it with the Raiders.
Do you think it's affecting coaching in this league? You're
forced to be impatient because they're impatient.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
I think you definitely have an urgency that you feel
now in the league. I don't know you're right about
the New England situation. I never felt that I felt
urgency to do my best. I think we all did
to try to win. But I think you're seeing that
more and more that there's a very short shelf life
on opportunity and the urgency to do well and show
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that you know exactly how to improve and make progress.
It's evident, you know, it's evident across the league, and
whether it's quarterback changes, coaching changes, coordinator changes, that's certainly
part of our game.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Now.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
We all have to accept that, we all understand the
life that we live, and you know, I hope it
doesn't affect decision making and things that you think are
the right things to do for the organization. But I
certainly I know there's a premium on winning quickly, that's
for sure.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
I always defended when you and Tom would have the
once a season blow up on the sidelines. My take is,
I mean, really, three and a half hours, it's on television.
I'm on television. There are public jobs. It's not always pretty.
You're doing stuff live. I can't hide in an accountant's
office during the week. Though. With you and Tom, when
would you present the game plan? Was it a give
(19:40):
and take, a back and forth or would you present
the install on Tuesday Wednesday? Tom goes along with it,
did tom push back a lot on installs.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
I think the more Tom played, the more success he had,
the more he understood what he liked and what he
didn't like. It certainly became a huge back and forth
for us. I mean I have emails that are pages
and pages long of things that he liked and things
that he didn't like, you know, And that's I think
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that's what you have to do nowadays, is when you
know the quarterback has has thoughts and opinions and ideas of.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
What he feels good about.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Yeah, you certainly have to take all that in and
then try to figure out exactly what's the right blend
of things that fit that week against that team. And
Tommy was not shy about giving input on those kind
of things, and he earned it, earned every bit of it.
And so we usually would be emailing on Monday, Tuesday,
and then obviously we'd practice Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and try
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to nail it down. But we were emailing on Friday
night and Saturday morning as well to try to finalize
the game plan. And I just think that you know,
when you have a guy like him, Pat Mahomes, Alan Lamar,
you know these guys that have certainly had a tremendous
amount of individual success team success. They've earned the right
to give you their input, and you need to take
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that input in and try to figure out how to
utilize it the best way.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Bill had admiration and great respect for you. Brought you back.
Obviously you had great success together. How often on the
headset would Bill say, Josh, you're not doing that reverse here, Josh,
we're running the football? Or did he give you carte blanche.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
He was really good about letting you kind of get
into the rhythm and flow of the game. He may say, hey,
can you stick a run in here? I want to
get it down to the two minute warning, something like
that situation. Or he would say, hey, you got four
downs here to get the first down. You know it's
third and three and you know at a thirty seven,
Hey you got two downs. Go ahead and try to
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do whatever you want to do here. But he definitely
did a great job of just guiding us. You know,
he didn't overdo it on the headset. It's hard to
do that, you know, when you got a guy in
a rhythm, he's calling plays, he's trying to set things up,
it's hard to really interject too much, and I thought
Bill was great at that.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Did he ever say after a game you were great?
I don't know if he ever said that.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
You might have patted me on the back once or twice,
but you knew when you knew, when you did a
good job. He definitely let you know that in certain ways,
might not have been the way somebody else did it,
but he did.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Okay, you felt respected. I did. I did. Oh. I'd
love to have you back anytime you're around families in town.
I know your dad, you said, occasionally watches the show
and he must be bored out of his mind. I
appreciate that. Hi Dad, Josh McDaniels, please come again. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
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Speaker 1 (22:37):
Live in LA. It's the Herd. Wherever you may be,
however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part
of your day. I've wanted to talk to Josh, and
I talked to him about five minutes off the air.
All sorts of good stuff, All sorts of good stuff.
I was thinking about this, j Mac. The three teams
I think today that are most likely to win the
(22:58):
Super Bowl for Kansas City, Detroit, and Buffalo. Now Buffalo's
all banged up. They may not look good this weekend.
I'll say, did you say no Ravens? No Ravens? And
you know I love the Ravens. WHOA what's that about?
It's a very good question, very good question. It's about
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the difference between fatal and a blemish. My kids can
fail a test, don't flunk out of the class. That's
the difference between a blemish and a fatal flaw. You
can get a D, don't get a D in the class.
So I'll give you an example. I think teams that
I really like all have a fatal flaw. Let's take Baltimore.
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They've allowed an NFL worst forty nine plays of twenty
or more yards. You can't win a super Bowl with that.
No team has ever ranked bottom three in pass defense
and won a Super Bowl, So it's a fatal flaw.
I think the forty nine ers. They're atrocious on special teams,
twenty third ranked special teams. There is a they're thirty
(24:07):
first in special teams according to DVA, which is analytic,
and it would bore everybody. I don't think it's like
having a bad bullpen. You cannot be bad on special teams,
as Kansas City showed to Denver, you will be exposed
by the Belichicks and Andy Reids and spags of the Packers.
Jordan Love I like him a lot. He is reckless.
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That's why Josh Allen de nev a trophy, not a
lack of talent. It's reckless. Eight straight games with one
or more picks. He leads the NFL in picks. Packers
are by the way, six to twelve in games when
he has one or more picks. Only two quarterbacks ever
won a Super Bowl after leading the league in picks,
Stafford and Eli Manning. And Eli Manning won that thing
(24:54):
by the che Chargers. You know I love the Chargers.
They have limited playmakers, no Pro Bowl among the skill
position group. You don't need four, you gotta have one.
They don't have a number one receiver. Lad mcconky's a
solid rookie. Two twenty second rate passing offense, and they
rate twentieth in big plays, meaning their only way to
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score is long drives. What happens with long drives eventually
turnovers and penalties. Eagles Nick Ceriani, I do worry against
the best coaches in good spots. Now they are the
one team with a fatal flaw. It may only be
a blemish because I love I love their roster. I
think it's the best roster in the league. But this
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is the third straight season with different coordinators, So do
they have that continuity you need in an overtime playoff game?
And then the Commanders another team I really really like.
No rookie quarterbacks ever reached the Super Bowl. I can
like him, I don't love him for the Super Bowl.
And Jayden Daniels. Now let's go to the blemish teams.
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So those are the fatal flaw teams that I liked
a lot, but I think there's a fatal flaw. I
could be wrong on Sirianni. A lot of people like it.
Here the blemish teams. My three favorites the Chiefs wide receivers.
Yet since de Hap arrived, they're number one in receptions
and number four in receiving yards. So de Hap has
(26:20):
solved the problem. And I actually liked him in the
first couple of games where Rashi Rice remember the first
couple games, We're like, oh, they got number one. D
Hop may not be a great one, but you can
tell Mahomes likes him. You can tell Mahomes trusted him.
Travis Kelce, by the way last three games, leads the
NFL thirty two catches. So what we thought was a
flaw has become a blemish. Detroit lost Aiden Hutchison the
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other four no Since losing Aiden Hutchison, they have right
now the second highest graded defense, and a lot of
that's without Aiden Hutchison. I don't always love the back end,
and I wish they had a slightly better pass rush,
but they have the best third down defense in the league.
So it's not a fatal flaw. It is a blemish.
It would be better with Aiden Hutchinson and the Bills.
(27:04):
I think we all acknowledge the perimeter. We don't really
trust they have James Cooke, we trust the run game.
We don't love the receivers. But I think a mari
Cooper now this week of Mariy Cooper's banged up, keyon
Coleman's banged up. But the Chiefs have won back to
back Super Bowls without having the best receiver room in
the league, and ten different Bills have caught touchdown passes.
So though they don't have a dominant one They've got
(27:26):
a ton of depth. I don't even know if Amari
Cooper's will one at this point, and I think he's
a great two. He's omor on Saint Brown, maybe he's
d hop. Jacoby Myers with the Raiders is a great two.
So and Allen by the way, targeting his receivers this
year is sixty seven percent completion percentage. So the teams
I think should be favorite. I think coaching is too
(27:48):
good in the NFL at the highest levels, the playoff.
Coaches that if you have a fatal flaw, it'll be exposed.
Blemish's Chiefs, Lions Bills. That's why they're my favorite
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