June 16, 2025 • 26 mins
Colin celebrates Caitlin Clark’s return from injury to score 9 points in 38 seconds and why her historic performance shows she’s just behind LeBron James and Steph Curry as the most popular basketball players in the world right now. He tells you why he was right about Ja Morant and wrong about the Thunder. NBA analyst Rachel Nichols joins the show to give the latest on the Kevin Durant trade market and which contenders are in pursuit of the 2-time Finals MVP
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It is a Monday, and we are live.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
It's the Herd wherever you may be and however you
may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. Jmac,
it was a wild weekend tonight. By the way, Otani
is pitching tonight, which is unbelievable. Also tonight, the Indiana
Pacers play Oh Case. Now that's all. Let's I know,
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we'll have a Scott Foster segment. You're all worked up
about that, but I gotta tell you so. Yeah, Yesterday
the US Open didn't have a lot of juice. Again
for diehard golfers, they think it's great, but most people
don't know who these guys are. But I gotta tell
you something. The Caitlin Clark yesterday thirty eight seconds Caitlin
Clark in thirty eight seconds. I don't know what second
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place is. That's the greatest thirty eight seconds in WNBA history.
A mesmerizing thirty eight seconds. A thirty three footer, a
thirty one footer, a twenty seven footer. The WNBA three
point arc is twenty two feet. It felt like you
were watching history, and I'm not overstating it. Kobe's eighty
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one point game, Michael Jordan's switching hands, Reggie Jackson with
three home runs on three pitches in the nineteen seventy
seven World Series against the Dodgers. It felt like I
was watching history. Yeah, I know Lebron's block was the
NBA Finals. But it's interesting that you don't realize how
much you miss people until they're gone. So Kaitlin Clark
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had played high school every week and co edge every
game in the WNBA, every game, and then she misses
five games and the ratings plummet fifty five percent league wide.
Like it's like Saturday Night Live when they don't have
a big star on. Maybe I'll catch a clip, not
the show. She comes back. Caitlin Clark kent the woe
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Man of Steel. She was calling for the ball and
right now I'm sitting there watching it and I felt like,
what in the look at these shots? What in the
world am I watching? Thirty three, thirty one and twenty
seven feet? And you know what was funny is SGA
and Aunt Edwards. The NBA is trying to peg some
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young guys his face of the league. They had Aunt
and SGA play in the Western Conference finals and it
had the lowest rating in four years. They're trying. You say, well,
the markets are small. Well, Kaitlin Clark plays for the
Indiana Fever. What does that matter. This goes to show
that markets do not matter. That's all nonsense. As she
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if if Lebron James, when Lebron James was in Cleveland,
we never said, well, the ratings are great. It's amazing
it's in Cleveland. Stars transcends state lines. Right now, she's
the biggest basketball star in the world not named Lebron
and Steph. She's bigger than Jokic, she's bigger than SGA,
she's bigger than Halliburton in Indiana for a terrible team
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a year ago. But it was a remarkable thing to watch,
and she's got a little flash to it that helps
She's totally unique and totally transcendent. But I'm watching live
on television, and my takeaway is, oh, this is one
of those like once every two or three years, Like
when Lebron made that block in the finals, you're like, Oh,
that's going to be an all time play, or Michael
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Jordan switches hands. I didn't see Kobe live with eighty one,
but if you did, it probably felt like this. But
I did see Reggie Jackson in seventy seven, three pitchers,
three pitches, seventy seven against the Dodgers' home runs. I
know it's World Series. That is the greatest thirty eight
seconds and the greatest stretch what we watched this weekend
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in WNBA history. The league is twenty five, twenty six,
twenty seven years old, however it is that's the greatest moment.
I don't care about championships. Diana Tarassi Sue berd I
don't care. That was the greatest moment in league history.
Like other play when you're watching a spward and you're like, whoa, whoa,
I mean, look at the depth on these shots, look
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at the it doesn't even look If you were Steph Curry,
you'd be going crazy Look at that. That feels like
a half court shot. Look at this stuff. Fifty five
percent ratings lost when she left, she's back. I don't
know what the number is for that. I would guess
it's a season high ratings. Here's Caitlin Clark after.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
I felt good and then I took one in transition.
That's kind of like where I like to get to
early and it's always good to see the ball go
through the hoop. And then I came down and shot
another one. Then I came down and shot another one,
and so three in a row go in. So that
gives you a lot of confidence. And even in the
second half, I thought I felt like they all came
off my hand feeling really good. So like that's what
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you can find confidence in as a scorer and as
a shooter.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Okay, the other thing this weekend that jumped out to me,
and again it wasn't the US Open. I know, all
you die hard golfers, you experts on golfs, you just
had a great time watching that rain delay. Let's be honest.
The Tiger Rocco mediate they put on television during the
rain delay, and Caitlin was far more interesting. You're not
gonna admit it because you're a great golfer and a
four handicap, but it didn't have a lot of juice.
(05:36):
The other thing that was interesting over the last four
or five days is the best soccer player in the
history of our country is Christian Polistic. It's don't argue it.
You don't have to be a soccer expert. Turn the
sound down. Watch he's our Lebron, he's our MJ he's
our magic. It's just different looking. If you take him out,
we just don't look as good. And there's a bunch
of guys missing from the Gold Cup. But I have
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been on team Polisic because he is decided not to
play the Gold Cup. He wanted to play in a
couple of the friendlies. But Mauricio Bucchettino, the managerournal get
to this in a second, said naw, now we're not
going to do that. You're all in or you're all out.
But here's why I am for Christian Bluisik and again
team USA one. As j Max said, settled down, they'll win.
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They did five nothing over Trinida and Tobago. Okay, fine,
But as I talked about last week, for soccer players,
what I Basically, if you're the best soccer player in
the world, you are Lebron. What does Lebron do? He
gets paid in the WNBA and then he plays in
the Olympics. Did Lebron did he play in the recent
Feeble World Championships?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
No, he didn't.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
And this is the equivalent the Gold Cup to the
Feeble World Championships in basketball. Did Jokich play in those? No,
he didn't play in those either. Jo Kich makes his
money here in America in the NBA and then he
goes and plays in the Olympics. And Lebron James makes
his money in the NBA and then he goes and
plays in the Olympics. Do you know who we as
America said to the Feeble World Championships the equivalent of this,
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Josh Hart, cam Johnson, a young Tyrese Haliburton, That's who
we said, Walker Kessler, Bobby Portis, That's who we said,
Jalen Brunson. Bon Carroll was like twenty, this is the
Gold Cup, that's what it is. And we have to
(07:23):
be fair about this. If you're anti Polisic, he's not
supporting America. Do you think Lebron doesn't sport America. Yeah
he does. He ran the NBA for fifteen years and
he goes to the Olympics. Now, Steph Curry didn't get
to the Olympics till later because he was dominating the
league and he was winning championships. But that's all this
is basically Christian Pulisic is taking the NBA model. And
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by the way, the two most global sports are not
baseball or not football or not hockey, they're soccer and basketball.
In soccer and basketball and now forever, the best Europeans
come over here to play. Now our best soccer because
that's where the best basketball is. Now our best soccer
players are good enough to go to AC Milan and
be first or second in scoring for their team and dominate.
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And so all Politic is doing. He's following the basketball model.
If Yo Kitchen Lebron aren't going to play in the
FEBA World Championships, why in the world am.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
I play in the Gold Cup?
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Small crowds, second tier teams. I mean, we went five nothing.
We didn't our best seven players and we wont five nothing.
So I am team Politic on this now. I also
Landon Donovan talked about this. I also do believe that
we have a new coach, and the new coach has
to send a message. So when Pulisic says, hey, I'll
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come over and play a couple of friendlies, but I
don't want to play in the Gold Cup. I'm exhausted.
I played fifty games in Ac Milan, and here was
landon Donovan on that you.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Had to address it. He I think was ready to
move on. He wanted to move on, guys. But then
your best player and one of the leaders on your
team doesn't interview publicly and says I want to go,
but the coach wouldn't let me, and the coach didn't
want me there. He had to stand up for himself.
One to send a message to Christian, two to send
a message to the team and the pool, but also
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for himself. You cannot be the coach that gets walked
on by your star player. So for his future, everybody's
paying attention. People are going to possibly hire him though.
He can't just let his best player walk all over
him like that.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
He had to respond, Yes, totally agree. But if you
are the best in America at anything, whatever your chosen
field is in America, if you're the very best in
Pulisic is in soccer. You gotta make choices cash and
country Feebo. World Basketball Championship. That's not gonna make the cut.
(09:47):
The Gold Cup. I liked watching it, but we don't
have our six best players. We won five nothing I'm
gonna defend. I'm on team Polisic here, all right, j Mac,
I am watching Scott Foster in the reaction stayed away
from this nonsense, but I am. I'm also team Scott Foster.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
Oh so this shows off to a great start, right.
Speaker 7 (10:09):
We got Kayln Clark phenomenal?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Did you watch that?
Speaker 6 (10:14):
Yes? You my daughter who's the basketball player.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
Sometimes we're just like in awe. So, I mean, she's
just We were gonna go out to lunch and we
had to wait until it was halftime because Kayln Clark
was on fire. I mean we had twenty five and
a half. But you know, Kayln Clark goes off. You
talk soccer, and now you want to go to Scott Foster.
Do you know how much of a gut punch the
non cover was. I had plus six. I'm feeling great
all game. They're up four with three minutes left and
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it fell apart. That was a brutal gambling beat.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And I will say this though, remember the Warriors Lebron
Calves Final when the Cavs won in seven, Yes, it
was six blowouts in a gray final game. This series
nobody's watching, but the games have been Three of the
four games have been absolutely fantastic. That was a great
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basketball game. But it doesn't feel as big. There's it's
like the US Open yesterday when you don't know the players.
It doesn't feel as big.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Ye are you gonna get in the Mount Foster?
Speaker 7 (11:13):
The push off by SGA and then the travel on
like the gat the shot to put them up with
like two minutes Lefty, you gotta talk about that or.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Well, well we'll talk about that. I also there was
a there was an NBA deal yesterday and people are
freaking out, and I want to address that coming up.
Don't forget Colin Wright, Colin Wrong. Top of our number
two in Chicago, It's the Hurt.
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Speaker 1 (11:39):
Here we go, Colin Wright, Colin Wrong on a Monday
where Colin was right Caitlin Clark returned and the NBA
was mesmerizing. It is not anti Beyonce to say Taylor
Swift's tour change the economy. It is not anti WNBA
to say when Caitlin Clark plays, this is an incredibly
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easy product to consume. They lost fifty five percent when
she didn't play. She came back, you could not turn
the TV off. It's not anti anything, it's pro Caitlin Clark.
Where Colin was wrong, I thought I thought the thunder
were in trouble, and they were for much of the
game against Indiana, but in that fourth quarter they answered
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the bell with one of the great three minute defensive
stands I have ever seen. Indiana held the one point
in the final three minutes. It was one of the
most impressive defensive performances for a brief stand that I've
ever seen. Okase won that game. Regardless of what you
think about this non call, where Colin was right, Shadora Sanders,
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according to Jeremy Fowler ESPN, made an impression. I don't
know how great he's going to be. I do think
he's a franchise quarterback. We can argue about that, but
his go to is his accuracy and in camp he
was insanely accurate. People can say, well, he was playing
against backups, well, soaring half the quarterbacks in the NFL
(13:09):
during camp they didn't complete seventy seven percent. Every backup
quarterback in the NFL is playing against backups in camp?
Why did everybody else complete sixty percent? He completed seventy
seven percent?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
I did not like the New York Knicks firing TIBs.
Now they're down to Mike Brown and Taylor Jenkins, who
are fine. But I always believe it was a personnel issue.
That's why we kept talking about all year. To the
Knicks need Giannis or kd Runson and Kat are below
average defenders. Mikhale Bridges is inconsistent offensively. Bottom line is
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the New York Knicks by firing TIBs. I think it's
inarguable will now end up with the worst head coach.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Where Colin was robbed.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Okay, J Mack was right. Team us say throttled Trinidadzebago
five nothing. It wasn't very pretty, but they did it.
You know, I guess the sky is not falling. I
didn't think it was a very pretty performance, but it's
not a bad outcome considering there's a little bit of
noise out around the United States men's national team, so
(14:19):
I'll take a wrong on that.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Where Colin was right, I always thought.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
John Morant was wildly entertaining, but I never thought he
was a build around enfranchise guy. Spindilee doesn't shoot well
early in his career, some maturity issues, and I just
I think over the last three years he's hurt more
and shooting more poorly. So I can like him and
think he's a two or a three, But boy, when
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you're talking about a number one in the NBA, I
got to have you play seventy five games, I got
to have you there very night, and a lot of
these smaller guards who don't shoot well therefore have to
score at the rim, get banged up. Where Colin was right,
we've had this for the last couple of years. Joe
Burrow is doing what I wish Andrew Luck would have
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done in his career in Indie. He's calling the organization out.
They are playing around with excellent pass rusher Trey Hendrickson,
and Joe Burrow has no problem repeatedly saying yes, it's
a problem.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Is Trey not being here. His deal not done? Is
that a distraction?
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Of course?
Speaker 8 (15:24):
Of course, last year we had two. This year we
have one, So we do have less. You'd love to
have none, but you know, that's a life in the NFL.
We're all support and Trey and would love for him
to be back.
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Speaker 1 (16:50):
And with that, Rachel Nichols is now joining us live
on an unbelievable performance. And I said this earlier, it's
not anti Beyonce to say Taylor Swift Tour changed the
economy in LA, which it did. It's not anti Beyonce.
Do you think the WNBA is actually kind of coming
to terms with Okay, this is really, this is Tiger,
this is MJ And then listen, I understand when she
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came in nobody could predict this. Nobody could predict this.
Do you think the league, though, has kind of come
to terms with let's ride the wave here. This is
all time stuff.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (17:21):
I think this absence and then how she came back
really sort of solidified all of that, because when she
came into the league, obviously interests went way up and
some of the finances went way up. But there was
some argument that it was a little bit of you know,
a rising tide lifts all boats, and the popularity of
the league had been increasing anyway, and Angel Reese was
also a big star coming into the league. But here
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we go with Caitlin Clark singularly being missing for the
time she.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
Was gone and ratings tanking fifty percent.
Speaker 10 (17:52):
In some cases, and then also she comes back and
reminds everyone how spectacular she is, and everybody's talking about
the WNBA.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
So if you needed to sort of have it affirmed.
Speaker 10 (18:02):
To you that it is just her, that the singularity
of her is what we are talking about, and her
star power.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
You got it.
Speaker 10 (18:09):
With this absence and then the way she came back.
I thought it was fascinating the way other people who
have been around the league for a long time reacted
to it.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
Rebecca Lobo, for.
Speaker 10 (18:18):
Example, she's been around the WNBA for almost three decades.
She said I've never ever seen anything like this.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
No, I said earlier.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I was a kid.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
I remember in seventy seven Reggie Jackson getting three home
runs off three pitchers on three pitches, and I can
remember as a kid being like many announcers were going crazy,
and there are these moments like when Michael Jordan changes
hands and you're like, oh, I just saw something live.
I've never seen that. When she had two thirty three footers,
I'm sitting there going I'm laughing. I'm like, Okay, this
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is the greatest thirty eight second stretch in the history
of this twenty five year plus league. Okay, so I
defended Scott Foster. I think you could have called the foul,
but I brought back the Brian Russell m call and
I said, folks, because Russell leaned into it and Michael
touched him. It looked like he shoved him. YEP. I
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looked at this and I thought, we're not acknowledging that
Naysmith tripped over SGA's feet. So it looks egregious. It's
really not. I mean, SGA's six six a buck ninety
five pounds. He's not Charles Barkley powerful. Do you think
the league got defense to how do you think this
is landing for the league?
Speaker 10 (19:28):
Look, this is a typical playoff no call at the
end of an NBA Finals game, as you point out,
We've seen it as far back as Michael Jordan.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
There have been other examples.
Speaker 10 (19:37):
I think what roiled a lot of people was there
were a bunch of calls before that and so it
felt like, well, if you're calling everything, you should be
calling this too. And that's what I thought was missing
from this game. Officiating wise, it just didn't have that consistency.
It didn't have any officiating flow. They never felt like
the crew kind of quite had control.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
Over the game.
Speaker 10 (19:55):
However, Scott Foster is one of the most respected referee
in the league. I understand that fans sort of have
their own opinions on him, but you can tell how
the NBA feels about him by the fact that they
put him on these very very key games, and in fact,
you would expect him.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
It's not certain yet, they haven't announced it.
Speaker 10 (20:14):
If there is a Game seven, it is most likely
Scott Foster will be on that game.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
Which makes it even more kind of intriguing to.
Speaker 10 (20:21):
Hear Rick Carlisle defending Scott Foster to all of the
Pacers fans in his press conference, basically being like, it
was a great he called a great game.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
Scott Foster's terrific. You know.
Speaker 10 (20:32):
He went on and on, and you know, I think
part of it is because he feels that way. Rick's
been around the league a long time, and also he
knows that maybe by Game seven Scott Foster will be back.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah. I you know, I said this earlier. If you
end up officiating Super Bowls and World Cups over and over,
they're not doing it because of some league wide conspiracy.
They view you as able to handle the situation. I
love what Orlando did in the trade and the reason
I love it because I think, I honestly think we
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still have a ways to go for the trade deadline. Yeah,
I mean right, So why do they do it now?
Because I think they watched the Indiana Pacers and they go,
we can do that, and they've got three guys they love,
but they need another. They didn't shoot the ball worth
a darn all year. This is their hole. But I
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think there's a little Pacers influence here, Rachel, that they're
young and they're like, why can't we do that?
Speaker 6 (21:30):
Absolutely?
Speaker 10 (21:32):
Absolutely, I agree with you, and I think also, look
that Jason Tatum injury means that the big bad Celtics,
who seem like such a mature, complete veteran team, aren't
going to be around. It feels like the conference is
going to be wide open next year because if you
look at the other team that did so well during
this season, the Cleveland Cavaliers, well they were knocked out
much earlier than expected. So it definitely feels like the
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East could be anyone's game. And there is an Orlando
component of why not us? To me, this trade is
going to be very interesting. Is it going to end
up being a Pascal Siakam like trade where people at
the time will say, oh, man, they overpaid, but then
obviously this guy turned out to be the Eastern Conference
Finals MVP and has been key to this finals run.
Or is it going to be more like McHale Bridges,
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who at least so far hasn't quite justified the amount
of Hall that the Knicks had to give up, And
we'll just see. Desmond Bin is a terrific fit for
this team, as you pointed out their terrible three point
shooting team.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
He does that very well.
Speaker 10 (22:29):
He compliments a lot of the other things that their
players do. He's going to bring a maturity to the team.
It's a great, great trade in terms of a great fit.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
We'll just have to see.
Speaker 10 (22:39):
Did they overpay a little bit Mickael Bridges style or
was this absolutely the thing that solidifies them and puts
them over the edge Pascal Siakam style.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
We'll have to find out for the record.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Some people said they gave up too much in the trade,
but I mean, it wasn't that five first rounders from
Michale Bridges, Rudy Gobaer gave up nine picks. I have
no problem with the Hall. I mean, obviously Memphis is
now rebuilding. They should, they can't compete at the highest
levels in the West. But it did make me think
about KD and I thought, well, Desmond Bain is in
his prime, twenty a night, excellent three point shooter. What
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do you think the market for KD is? Now? You
know this league, it's comps. So if you're getting four
first rounders, what is the market for KD?
Speaker 10 (23:26):
It really depends on who wants to pay him. Because
he's due for an extension, right so he's given them
sort of a preferred teams reportedly. I think that Phoenix
will take that into consideration. But if they can get
a better deal somewhere else, I think they'll take it
because they are so in need of assets. That being said,
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could someone offer them a better deal If KD isn't
going to re sign with them, if he's not going
to sign that extension, how much do you want to
give up? So that's really the full room that this
is depending on. Is is it a place that KD
will sign an extension and therefore justify a higher offer.
If it's not, then it's going to be hard for
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them to gin up a market because now that it's
out there which teams he's interested in, those teams feel like, great,
we've got an advantage here. We don't have to give
up as much. So there's just a lot of politics
that go on with the trade like this.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Finally, the Knicks as predicted firing cautionary tale that you
better have a backup plan. I mean, I'm hearing top
college basketball coaches have retired Jay Wright or not interested Calipari.
The top teams in the NBA, according to a story
I read this morning, used profanity and hung up on
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the Knicks. Who's the leading candidate. I mean, they don't
have to hurry, they're not in their rush. Who's the
leading candidate for the next job.
Speaker 10 (24:49):
Well, officially the leading candidates right now are Taylor Jenkins,
who I think will be the first person interviewed, and
Mike Brown, who will also get an interview. There's a
lingering question about Jason Kidd because even though Dallas was
one of those teams that said absolutely not, we do
not give you permission to talk about him, there's a question,
especially post Luca trade, and also how much money New
(25:11):
York can offer Jason to see if there is a
point he will go to the Mavericks and say I'm out,
I don't want to be here anymore. And if that happens,
it's going to make it hard to work with him
in Dallas going forward, and they would maybe consider granding permission.
They would maybe consider making some sort of trade the
way Jason Kidd was traded frankly from Milwaukee to Brooklyn
(25:32):
a long time ago. So that's sort of the nebulous
cloud that's hanging overall of this. No one's really heard
from Jason about what he might want to do, but
as of now, Dallas has said no way, and there's
no movement on that as of now, so that leaves
Taylor Jenkins Mike Brown is the two leading candidates.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Rachel Nichols as always on a Monday, it's a great scene, Rach.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
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and we sort of said coming into the series, the
all time great defensive team plus the NBA leading scorer
and the fastest tempo in the league. Those are classic
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It is a Monday, and we are live.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
It's the Herd wherever you may be and however you
may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. Jmac,
it was a wild weekend tonight. By the way, Otani
is pitching tonight, which is unbelievable. Also tonight, the Indiana
Pacers play Oh Case. Now that's all. Let's I know,
(00:53):
we'll have a Scott Foster segment. You're all worked up
about that, but I gotta tell you so. Yeah, Yesterday
the US Open didn't have a lot of juice. Again
for diehard golfers, they think it's great, but most people
don't know who these guys are. But I gotta tell
you something. The Caitlin Clark yesterday thirty eight seconds Caitlin
Clark in thirty eight seconds. I don't know what second
(01:16):
place is. That's the greatest thirty eight seconds in WNBA history.
A mesmerizing thirty eight seconds. A thirty three footer, a
thirty one footer, a twenty seven footer. The WNBA three
point arc is twenty two feet. It felt like you
were watching history, and I'm not overstating it. Kobe's eighty
(01:36):
one point game, Michael Jordan's switching hands, Reggie Jackson with
three home runs on three pitches in the nineteen seventy
seven World Series against the Dodgers. It felt like I
was watching history. Yeah, I know Lebron's block was the
NBA Finals. But it's interesting that you don't realize how
much you miss people until they're gone. So Kaitlin Clark
(01:57):
had played high school every week and co edge every
game in the WNBA, every game, and then she misses
five games and the ratings plummet fifty five percent league wide.
Like it's like Saturday Night Live when they don't have
a big star on. Maybe I'll catch a clip, not
the show. She comes back. Caitlin Clark kent the woe
(02:20):
Man of Steel. She was calling for the ball and
right now I'm sitting there watching it and I felt like,
what in the look at these shots? What in the
world am I watching? Thirty three, thirty one and twenty
seven feet? And you know what was funny is SGA
and Aunt Edwards. The NBA is trying to peg some
(02:41):
young guys his face of the league. They had Aunt
and SGA play in the Western Conference finals and it
had the lowest rating in four years. They're trying. You say, well,
the markets are small. Well, Kaitlin Clark plays for the
Indiana Fever. What does that matter. This goes to show
that markets do not matter. That's all nonsense. As she
(03:02):
if if Lebron James, when Lebron James was in Cleveland,
we never said, well, the ratings are great. It's amazing
it's in Cleveland. Stars transcends state lines. Right now, she's
the biggest basketball star in the world not named Lebron
and Steph. She's bigger than Jokic, she's bigger than SGA,
she's bigger than Halliburton in Indiana for a terrible team
(03:25):
a year ago. But it was a remarkable thing to watch,
and she's got a little flash to it that helps
She's totally unique and totally transcendent. But I'm watching live
on television, and my takeaway is, oh, this is one
of those like once every two or three years, Like
when Lebron made that block in the finals, you're like, Oh,
that's going to be an all time play, or Michael
(03:46):
Jordan switches hands. I didn't see Kobe live with eighty one,
but if you did, it probably felt like this. But
I did see Reggie Jackson in seventy seven, three pitchers,
three pitches, seventy seven against the Dodgers' home runs. I
know it's World Series. That is the greatest thirty eight
seconds and the greatest stretch what we watched this weekend
(04:06):
in WNBA history. The league is twenty five, twenty six,
twenty seven years old, however it is that's the greatest moment.
I don't care about championships. Diana Tarassi Sue berd I
don't care. That was the greatest moment in league history.
Like other play when you're watching a spward and you're like, whoa, whoa,
I mean, look at the depth on these shots, look
(04:30):
at the it doesn't even look If you were Steph Curry,
you'd be going crazy Look at that. That feels like
a half court shot. Look at this stuff. Fifty five
percent ratings lost when she left, she's back. I don't
know what the number is for that. I would guess
it's a season high ratings. Here's Caitlin Clark after.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
I felt good and then I took one in transition.
That's kind of like where I like to get to
early and it's always good to see the ball go
through the hoop. And then I came down and shot
another one. Then I came down and shot another one,
and so three in a row go in. So that
gives you a lot of confidence. And even in the
second half, I thought I felt like they all came
off my hand feeling really good. So like that's what
(05:12):
you can find confidence in as a scorer and as
a shooter.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Okay, the other thing this weekend that jumped out to me,
and again it wasn't the US Open. I know, all
you die hard golfers, you experts on golfs, you just
had a great time watching that rain delay. Let's be honest.
The Tiger Rocco mediate they put on television during the
rain delay, and Caitlin was far more interesting. You're not
gonna admit it because you're a great golfer and a
four handicap, but it didn't have a lot of juice.
(05:36):
The other thing that was interesting over the last four
or five days is the best soccer player in the
history of our country is Christian Polistic. It's don't argue it.
You don't have to be a soccer expert. Turn the
sound down. Watch he's our Lebron, he's our MJ he's
our magic. It's just different looking. If you take him out,
we just don't look as good. And there's a bunch
of guys missing from the Gold Cup. But I have
(05:57):
been on team Polisic because he is decided not to
play the Gold Cup. He wanted to play in a
couple of the friendlies. But Mauricio Bucchettino, the managerournal get
to this in a second, said naw, now we're not
going to do that. You're all in or you're all out.
But here's why I am for Christian Bluisik and again
team USA one. As j Max said, settled down, they'll win.
(06:18):
They did five nothing over Trinida and Tobago. Okay, fine,
But as I talked about last week, for soccer players,
what I Basically, if you're the best soccer player in
the world, you are Lebron. What does Lebron do? He
gets paid in the WNBA and then he plays in
the Olympics. Did Lebron did he play in the recent
Feeble World Championships?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
No, he didn't.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
And this is the equivalent the Gold Cup to the
Feeble World Championships in basketball. Did Jokich play in those? No,
he didn't play in those either. Jo Kich makes his
money here in America in the NBA and then he
goes and plays in the Olympics. And Lebron James makes
his money in the NBA and then he goes and
plays in the Olympics. Do you know who we as
America said to the Feeble World Championships the equivalent of this,
(07:02):
Josh Hart, cam Johnson, a young Tyrese Haliburton, That's who
we said, Walker Kessler, Bobby Portis, That's who we said,
Jalen Brunson. Bon Carroll was like twenty, this is the
Gold Cup, that's what it is. And we have to
(07:23):
be fair about this. If you're anti Polisic, he's not
supporting America. Do you think Lebron doesn't sport America. Yeah
he does. He ran the NBA for fifteen years and
he goes to the Olympics. Now, Steph Curry didn't get
to the Olympics till later because he was dominating the
league and he was winning championships. But that's all this
is basically Christian Pulisic is taking the NBA model. And
(07:44):
by the way, the two most global sports are not
baseball or not football or not hockey, they're soccer and basketball.
In soccer and basketball and now forever, the best Europeans
come over here to play. Now our best soccer because
that's where the best basketball is. Now our best soccer
players are good enough to go to AC Milan and
be first or second in scoring for their team and dominate.
(08:07):
And so all Politic is doing. He's following the basketball model.
If Yo Kitchen Lebron aren't going to play in the
FEBA World Championships, why in the world am.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
I play in the Gold Cup?
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Small crowds, second tier teams. I mean, we went five nothing.
We didn't our best seven players and we wont five nothing.
So I am team Politic on this now. I also
Landon Donovan talked about this. I also do believe that
we have a new coach, and the new coach has
to send a message. So when Pulisic says, hey, I'll
(08:38):
come over and play a couple of friendlies, but I
don't want to play in the Gold Cup. I'm exhausted.
I played fifty games in Ac Milan, and here was
landon Donovan on that you.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Had to address it. He I think was ready to
move on. He wanted to move on, guys. But then
your best player and one of the leaders on your
team doesn't interview publicly and says I want to go,
but the coach wouldn't let me, and the coach didn't
want me there. He had to stand up for himself.
One to send a message to Christian, two to send
a message to the team and the pool, but also
(09:10):
for himself. You cannot be the coach that gets walked
on by your star player. So for his future, everybody's
paying attention. People are going to possibly hire him though.
He can't just let his best player walk all over
him like that.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
He had to respond, Yes, totally agree. But if you
are the best in America at anything, whatever your chosen
field is in America, if you're the very best in
Pulisic is in soccer. You gotta make choices cash and
country Feebo. World Basketball Championship. That's not gonna make the cut.
(09:47):
The Gold Cup. I liked watching it, but we don't
have our six best players. We won five nothing I'm
gonna defend. I'm on team Polisic here, all right, j Mac,
I am watching Scott Foster in the reaction stayed away
from this nonsense, but I am. I'm also team Scott Foster.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
Oh so this shows off to a great start, right.
Speaker 7 (10:09):
We got Kayln Clark phenomenal?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Did you watch that?
Speaker 6 (10:14):
Yes? You my daughter who's the basketball player.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
Sometimes we're just like in awe. So, I mean, she's
just We were gonna go out to lunch and we
had to wait until it was halftime because Kayln Clark
was on fire. I mean we had twenty five and
a half. But you know, Kayln Clark goes off. You
talk soccer, and now you want to go to Scott Foster.
Do you know how much of a gut punch the
non cover was. I had plus six. I'm feeling great
all game. They're up four with three minutes left and
(10:39):
it fell apart. That was a brutal gambling beat.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And I will say this though, remember the Warriors Lebron
Calves Final when the Cavs won in seven, Yes, it
was six blowouts in a gray final game. This series
nobody's watching, but the games have been Three of the
four games have been absolutely fantastic. That was a great
(11:03):
basketball game. But it doesn't feel as big. There's it's
like the US Open yesterday when you don't know the players.
It doesn't feel as big.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Ye are you gonna get in the Mount Foster?
Speaker 7 (11:13):
The push off by SGA and then the travel on
like the gat the shot to put them up with
like two minutes Lefty, you gotta talk about that or.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Well, well we'll talk about that. I also there was
a there was an NBA deal yesterday and people are
freaking out, and I want to address that coming up.
Don't forget Colin Wright, Colin Wrong. Top of our number
two in Chicago, It's the Hurt.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
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Speaker 1 (11:39):
Here we go, Colin Wright, Colin Wrong on a Monday
where Colin was right Caitlin Clark returned and the NBA
was mesmerizing. It is not anti Beyonce to say Taylor
Swift's tour change the economy. It is not anti WNBA
to say when Caitlin Clark plays, this is an incredibly
(12:01):
easy product to consume. They lost fifty five percent when
she didn't play. She came back, you could not turn
the TV off. It's not anti anything, it's pro Caitlin Clark.
Where Colin was wrong, I thought I thought the thunder
were in trouble, and they were for much of the
game against Indiana, but in that fourth quarter they answered
(12:24):
the bell with one of the great three minute defensive
stands I have ever seen. Indiana held the one point
in the final three minutes. It was one of the
most impressive defensive performances for a brief stand that I've
ever seen. Okase won that game. Regardless of what you
think about this non call, where Colin was right, Shadora Sanders,
(12:47):
according to Jeremy Fowler ESPN, made an impression. I don't
know how great he's going to be. I do think
he's a franchise quarterback. We can argue about that, but
his go to is his accuracy and in camp he
was insanely accurate. People can say, well, he was playing
against backups, well, soaring half the quarterbacks in the NFL
(13:09):
during camp they didn't complete seventy seven percent. Every backup
quarterback in the NFL is playing against backups in camp?
Why did everybody else complete sixty percent? He completed seventy
seven percent?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
I did not like the New York Knicks firing TIBs.
Now they're down to Mike Brown and Taylor Jenkins, who
are fine. But I always believe it was a personnel issue.
That's why we kept talking about all year. To the
Knicks need Giannis or kd Runson and Kat are below
average defenders. Mikhale Bridges is inconsistent offensively. Bottom line is
(13:48):
the New York Knicks by firing TIBs. I think it's
inarguable will now end up with the worst head coach.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Where Colin was robbed.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Okay, J Mack was right. Team us say throttled Trinidadzebago
five nothing. It wasn't very pretty, but they did it.
You know, I guess the sky is not falling. I
didn't think it was a very pretty performance, but it's
not a bad outcome considering there's a little bit of
noise out around the United States men's national team, so
(14:19):
I'll take a wrong on that.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Where Colin was right, I always thought.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
John Morant was wildly entertaining, but I never thought he
was a build around enfranchise guy. Spindilee doesn't shoot well
early in his career, some maturity issues, and I just
I think over the last three years he's hurt more
and shooting more poorly. So I can like him and
think he's a two or a three, But boy, when
(14:44):
you're talking about a number one in the NBA, I
got to have you play seventy five games, I got
to have you there very night, and a lot of
these smaller guards who don't shoot well therefore have to
score at the rim, get banged up. Where Colin was right,
we've had this for the last couple of years. Joe
Burrow is doing what I wish Andrew Luck would have
(15:04):
done in his career in Indie. He's calling the organization out.
They are playing around with excellent pass rusher Trey Hendrickson,
and Joe Burrow has no problem repeatedly saying yes, it's
a problem.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Is Trey not being here. His deal not done? Is
that a distraction?
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Of course?
Speaker 8 (15:24):
Of course, last year we had two. This year we
have one, So we do have less. You'd love to
have none, but you know, that's a life in the NFL.
We're all support and Trey and would love for him
to be back.
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Speaker 1 (16:50):
And with that, Rachel Nichols is now joining us live
on an unbelievable performance. And I said this earlier, it's
not anti Beyonce to say Taylor Swift Tour changed the
economy in LA, which it did. It's not anti Beyonce.
Do you think the WNBA is actually kind of coming
to terms with Okay, this is really, this is Tiger,
this is MJ And then listen, I understand when she
(17:13):
came in nobody could predict this. Nobody could predict this.
Do you think the league, though, has kind of come
to terms with let's ride the wave here. This is
all time stuff.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (17:21):
I think this absence and then how she came back
really sort of solidified all of that, because when she
came into the league, obviously interests went way up and
some of the finances went way up. But there was
some argument that it was a little bit of you know,
a rising tide lifts all boats, and the popularity of
the league had been increasing anyway, and Angel Reese was
also a big star coming into the league. But here
(17:43):
we go with Caitlin Clark singularly being missing for the
time she.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
Was gone and ratings tanking fifty percent.
Speaker 10 (17:52):
In some cases, and then also she comes back and
reminds everyone how spectacular she is, and everybody's talking about
the WNBA.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
So if you needed to sort of have it affirmed.
Speaker 10 (18:02):
To you that it is just her, that the singularity
of her is what we are talking about, and her
star power.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
You got it.
Speaker 10 (18:09):
With this absence and then the way she came back.
I thought it was fascinating the way other people who
have been around the league for a long time reacted
to it.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
Rebecca Lobo, for.
Speaker 10 (18:18):
Example, she's been around the WNBA for almost three decades.
She said I've never ever seen anything like this.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
No, I said earlier.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I was a kid.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
I remember in seventy seven Reggie Jackson getting three home
runs off three pitchers on three pitches, and I can
remember as a kid being like many announcers were going crazy,
and there are these moments like when Michael Jordan changes
hands and you're like, oh, I just saw something live.
I've never seen that. When she had two thirty three footers,
I'm sitting there going I'm laughing. I'm like, Okay, this
(18:48):
is the greatest thirty eight second stretch in the history
of this twenty five year plus league. Okay, so I
defended Scott Foster. I think you could have called the foul,
but I brought back the Brian Russell m call and
I said, folks, because Russell leaned into it and Michael
touched him. It looked like he shoved him. YEP. I
(19:08):
looked at this and I thought, we're not acknowledging that
Naysmith tripped over SGA's feet. So it looks egregious. It's
really not. I mean, SGA's six six a buck ninety
five pounds. He's not Charles Barkley powerful. Do you think
the league got defense to how do you think this
is landing for the league?
Speaker 10 (19:28):
Look, this is a typical playoff no call at the
end of an NBA Finals game, as you point out,
We've seen it as far back as Michael Jordan.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
There have been other examples.
Speaker 10 (19:37):
I think what roiled a lot of people was there
were a bunch of calls before that and so it
felt like, well, if you're calling everything, you should be
calling this too. And that's what I thought was missing
from this game. Officiating wise, it just didn't have that consistency.
It didn't have any officiating flow. They never felt like
the crew kind of quite had control.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
Over the game.
Speaker 10 (19:55):
However, Scott Foster is one of the most respected referee
in the league. I understand that fans sort of have
their own opinions on him, but you can tell how
the NBA feels about him by the fact that they
put him on these very very key games, and in fact,
you would expect him.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
It's not certain yet, they haven't announced it.
Speaker 10 (20:14):
If there is a Game seven, it is most likely
Scott Foster will be on that game.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
Which makes it even more kind of intriguing to.
Speaker 10 (20:21):
Hear Rick Carlisle defending Scott Foster to all of the
Pacers fans in his press conference, basically being like, it
was a great he called a great game.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
Scott Foster's terrific. You know.
Speaker 10 (20:32):
He went on and on, and you know, I think
part of it is because he feels that way. Rick's
been around the league a long time, and also he
knows that maybe by Game seven Scott Foster will be back.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah. I you know, I said this earlier. If you
end up officiating Super Bowls and World Cups over and over,
they're not doing it because of some league wide conspiracy.
They view you as able to handle the situation. I
love what Orlando did in the trade and the reason
I love it because I think, I honestly think we
(21:03):
still have a ways to go for the trade deadline. Yeah,
I mean right, So why do they do it now?
Because I think they watched the Indiana Pacers and they go,
we can do that, and they've got three guys they love,
but they need another. They didn't shoot the ball worth
a darn all year. This is their hole. But I
(21:23):
think there's a little Pacers influence here, Rachel, that they're
young and they're like, why can't we do that?
Speaker 6 (21:30):
Absolutely?
Speaker 10 (21:32):
Absolutely, I agree with you, and I think also, look
that Jason Tatum injury means that the big bad Celtics,
who seem like such a mature, complete veteran team, aren't
going to be around. It feels like the conference is
going to be wide open next year because if you
look at the other team that did so well during
this season, the Cleveland Cavaliers, well they were knocked out
much earlier than expected. So it definitely feels like the
(21:53):
East could be anyone's game. And there is an Orlando
component of why not us? To me, this trade is
going to be very interesting. Is it going to end
up being a Pascal Siakam like trade where people at
the time will say, oh, man, they overpaid, but then
obviously this guy turned out to be the Eastern Conference
Finals MVP and has been key to this finals run.
Or is it going to be more like McHale Bridges,
(22:14):
who at least so far hasn't quite justified the amount
of Hall that the Knicks had to give up, And
we'll just see. Desmond Bin is a terrific fit for
this team, as you pointed out their terrible three point
shooting team.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
He does that very well.
Speaker 10 (22:29):
He compliments a lot of the other things that their
players do. He's going to bring a maturity to the team.
It's a great, great trade in terms of a great fit.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
We'll just have to see.
Speaker 10 (22:39):
Did they overpay a little bit Mickael Bridges style or
was this absolutely the thing that solidifies them and puts
them over the edge Pascal Siakam style.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
We'll have to find out for the record.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Some people said they gave up too much in the trade,
but I mean, it wasn't that five first rounders from
Michale Bridges, Rudy Gobaer gave up nine picks. I have
no problem with the Hall. I mean, obviously Memphis is
now rebuilding. They should, they can't compete at the highest
levels in the West. But it did make me think
about KD and I thought, well, Desmond Bain is in
his prime, twenty a night, excellent three point shooter. What
(23:15):
do you think the market for KD is? Now? You
know this league, it's comps. So if you're getting four
first rounders, what is the market for KD?
Speaker 10 (23:26):
It really depends on who wants to pay him. Because
he's due for an extension, right so he's given them
sort of a preferred teams reportedly. I think that Phoenix
will take that into consideration. But if they can get
a better deal somewhere else, I think they'll take it
because they are so in need of assets. That being said,
(23:46):
could someone offer them a better deal If KD isn't
going to re sign with them, if he's not going
to sign that extension, how much do you want to
give up? So that's really the full room that this
is depending on. Is is it a place that KD
will sign an extension and therefore justify a higher offer.
If it's not, then it's going to be hard for
(24:07):
them to gin up a market because now that it's
out there which teams he's interested in, those teams feel like, great,
we've got an advantage here. We don't have to give
up as much. So there's just a lot of politics
that go on with the trade like this.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Finally, the Knicks as predicted firing cautionary tale that you
better have a backup plan. I mean, I'm hearing top
college basketball coaches have retired Jay Wright or not interested Calipari.
The top teams in the NBA, according to a story
I read this morning, used profanity and hung up on
(24:40):
the Knicks. Who's the leading candidate. I mean, they don't
have to hurry, they're not in their rush. Who's the
leading candidate for the next job.
Speaker 10 (24:49):
Well, officially the leading candidates right now are Taylor Jenkins,
who I think will be the first person interviewed, and
Mike Brown, who will also get an interview. There's a
lingering question about Jason Kidd because even though Dallas was
one of those teams that said absolutely not, we do
not give you permission to talk about him, there's a question,
especially post Luca trade, and also how much money New
(25:11):
York can offer Jason to see if there is a
point he will go to the Mavericks and say I'm out,
I don't want to be here anymore. And if that happens,
it's going to make it hard to work with him
in Dallas going forward, and they would maybe consider granding permission.
They would maybe consider making some sort of trade the
way Jason Kidd was traded frankly from Milwaukee to Brooklyn
(25:32):
a long time ago. So that's sort of the nebulous
cloud that's hanging overall of this. No one's really heard
from Jason about what he might want to do, but
as of now, Dallas has said no way, and there's
no movement on that as of now, so that leaves
Taylor Jenkins Mike Brown is the two leading candidates.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Rachel Nichols as always on a Monday, it's a great scene, Rach.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Great to see you all right Indy tonight in Game five,
which has been a stellar series. The games have been intense,
and we sort of said coming into the series, the
all time great defensive team plus the NBA leading scorer
and the fastest tempo in the league. Those are classic
matchups and at three out of four games have been
absolutely great. Live in Chicago, it's the Herd.
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