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January 24, 2025 31 mins

Chad Millman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network and host of “The Favorites” podcast, joins Colin for a round of “Sharp or Square,” to help provide Colin with the sharpest betting advice for the AFC and NFC Championship games, plus they chop up some of the top stories from around the league. 

3:00 - The “Chiefs get all the calls” theory

6:45 - Commanders vs. Eagles

10:15 - Favorite Commanders/Eagles Prop Bet

10:45 - Jayden Daniels poised to dominate NFC?

17:00 - Bills vs. Chiefs

27:30 - Lower TV ratings for national championship

35:30 - Jags firing Trent Balke 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume all right, Chad Millman, co host of the
Favorites Sharper Square. All odds provided by DraftKings. So I
had a rare I don't think I had an undefeated
week this year three and oh last week. And I

(00:24):
think it's actually easier in the playoffs. I've had back
to back weeks because the quarterbacks are all you know,
it's sudden death, it's the best quarterbacks. Yeah, it's don't
want to start with this before we start with anything.
You know, there's this sense that, you know, Kansas City,
Jason McIntyre's on this thing about the calls going a
certain way, and I always point back, Kansas City's gotten

(00:46):
the benefit of the calls. Well, my argument is, we
all know coaching matters more in football than managing in
baseball or coaching in basketball. We know coaching college or pro.
You've seen Jim Harbaugh take over the worst defense make
it the best. Coaching matters in football more than other sports.
You have like a phone book that offensive players have

(01:07):
to memorize and system scheme, culture building. And I remember
when I lived in Connecticut watching all the Patriot games,
and I can remember watching for years and it just
popping into my head when they were playing a team
and a team fumbled, I'm like, God, I don't think
the Patriots have fumbled since Thanksgiving. And you went back

(01:27):
and looked and they literally were the team in the
league that didn't fumble. And I'd asked Patriot players about this,
They're like, oh, yeah, Bill would not let you stretch
for extra yards. That was a fine, that was a suspension.
You could only do it if it was fourth down
in the ends. Otherwise you were not allowed to stretch.
And I look at the Chiefs and I say to myself,

(01:47):
really good coaches are really good teachers, and you can
teach your way out of penalties with good communication, thorough repetition.
Damian Woody always told me Patriot practice was different than
every other practice has Detroit his Jets practices. So what
your take on the Chiefs get all the calls, because

(02:09):
if you go back and look at the penalties during
the New England era, they were last penalized as well.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
I think it's bullshit.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
I think it's a media constructed argument because people are
looking for reasons as to why the Chiefs keep winning
other than they have a generationally great quarterback, a generationally
if not historically great coach. Our mutual friend Ryan Risillo

(02:43):
had a great stat on his podcast the other day.
The past two years, Kansas City opponents have been flagged
for forty eight penalties in the fourth quarter in ot
of one score games. Colin, how many have the Chiefs
had in the same period, twelve forty seven. So let's

(03:10):
not get off, Okay, Well, you have in the Chiefs
are a coach who has found the perfect cheak code
for his scheme. He's got a guy who is ultra competitive,
who can make magical plays, who, by the way, as
Tom Brady pointed out on your show, having to defend

(03:34):
Patrick Mahomes for four downs in the playoffs is just
so freaking hard. You don't get to seven conference championship
games because people are calling penalties against the opponents more often.
Ask Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson has two MVPs. He might
get a third. He should get a third. How many

(03:55):
AFC title games has he played in? How many Super
Bowls has he played in? He is as brilliant an
athlete and as brilliant a quarterback as there is in
the NFL. He's not getting there. Patrick Mahomes and the
Chiefs do something different, and I think it. I think
it's in the head of every single team they play.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Well, let's start off with the Commanders and the Eagles.
I'm gonna take Philadelphia minus six. I'm also going to
take the over. I do think they've played twice. Philadelphia
should have won twice, but Jalen got hurt, Kenny Pickett
came in. So I think the number I look at
over two games is average yards per carry, and it's

(04:34):
five and a half yards for Philadelphia. Well, that's just
that's a physical mismatch. The O line for Philadelphia is
almost better to a man than the D line for Washington.
That's not going to change. That's not scheme. The guards
for Philadelphia are like six seven and a half. It's
like the biggest guards in league history. There are four
of Their offensive linemen are like arguably the best in

(04:57):
the NFL at their position. So they will run the
ball and they will move the ball. But I do
think the Commanders will have to score and know what
going in, so they'll take chances. They'll do some four
down stuff. So my take is it's a fairly high
scoring game, which makes me more comfortable laying the six

(05:17):
with Philadelphia Sharper Square.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
So it was sharp at four and a half, it's
gotten to six. It actually got up to six and
a half. And wise guys have been buying back and
in a lot of the conversations I've had this week,
and Simon Hunter and I talked about this on the
Favorites today when we sort of bring in the feedback
from professional betters, they were liking Washington and it honestly
doesn't make sense to me or to Simon and apparently.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
To you either.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Last week people were coming in and they were hammering
the Rams. I love the Eagles all week, and if
not for Jake Elliott missing a couple extra points, that
game is not a push, it's a cover for the Eagles. Yeah,
same thing this, I don't get it. I feel like
there's so much recency bias in relation to Jaden Daniels

(06:08):
and both of these games. Weirdly, there is so much
public support for the road underdogs against the higher seeds
because of the status of the quarterbacks and the seasons
they're having. Josh Allen is having a better year than
Patrick Mahomes, Jade Daniels having a better year than Jalen
Hurts but people are forgetting that this Eagles team is

(06:29):
not built around Jalen Hurts, right, It's built around Saquon Barkley.
And one of the things that I tried to unpack
this week when I was thinking about this game is
the Eagles win so often with explosive plays. We saw
this past weekend two huge runs from Barkley, a great
run from Hurtz. That's how they're scoring touchdowns right. Earlier

(06:50):
in the season in November in Philadelphia against the Commanders,
the Eagles were losing most of that game. I was
at that game. They won that game because Saquon Bardley
had two long touchdown runs. So you think about explosive
play as well.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Is that random? Can you predict it?

Speaker 3 (07:04):
I think is more random when it's quarterbacks throwing long
touchdown passes with the circumstances have to be perfect. It's
less random when it's your running back who has an
offensive line that is as dominant as you.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Just talked about.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Who's by the way, his rushing prop is one hundred
north of one hundred and thirty yards, which DraftKings has
announced is the highest total they've ever had for a
rushing prop in the years that they've been doing business.
So I'm with you, man, I like the Eagles. I
think it's the right spot. I think they're the better team.
I tend to favor the dominant, physical team.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
So yeah, is there a prop you could give our
audience that you like? I like the over in this game,
but a prop you.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Like, zach Er is over three and a half receptions.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
I think that the Eagles defensively on the edges at
cornerback Quinnyon Mitchell is supposed to play. We already know
about Cooper Degene and the slab Darius Slay obviously. On
the other side, that's where Jaden Daniels, who was already
predisposed to wanting to go to zach ertz if Terry
McLaurin isn't available, isn't open, I think that that's where
the offensive opportunities are going to be.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
So, Zach Er, it's over three and a half.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
You know, it's interesting. I was talking on the show
today ten years ago Peyton Manning, Big Ben and Brady,
where these iconic legends past their prime. In fact, Peyton
was in Denver, but I remember thinking at the time,
she's what is the league gonna do? What is the
league gonna do and now we've got Lamar, Mahomes, Allen
and Throwin Burrow. Yeah, but in the NFC ten quarterbacks

(08:41):
in the last ten Super Bowl appearances for NFC teams,
it's a lot of rotational quarterbacks. That's why it almost
feels like Jaden Daniels has a shot. Hurts would be
the second time for him. So I do I said
this today as I watched Jaden Daniels, and I feel
like the NFC got their Mahomes that every they'll be
tailing Washington going forward. I don't think it's a particularly

(09:05):
warm take. I feel like he is either Lamar or Mahomes.
But the NFC has had this sort of goff an
older Stafford, a prickly Aaron Russell, Wilson aging Kyler. Murray's talented,
but there's just been a lot of these qualifiers and
they haven't had their no issues, low maintenance, high thrower,

(09:28):
good mover. I think he's the Mahomes of the NFC.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
What's really going to be interesting. I agree with everything
you said. What's going to be interesting is next year.
Next year, the Commanders are already sixteen to one to
win the Super Bowl. That feels very aggressive. Whyren't we
saying the same things about c J. Stroud exactly a

(09:53):
year ago?

Speaker 2 (09:54):
And did c J.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Stroud not come back down to earth the defenses, not
spend an off season figuring out that he's not great
against certain defenses, that it's going to be challenging for
him to succeed at the level that he did in
his rookie year.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
And he didn't.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
Not saying he's not great, not saying he's going to
be great. But of all the great quarterbacks you just
mentioned when the season began, c J. Stroud was on
that list.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Now he's not.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
So next year is there going to be an opportunity
to fade the Commanders? Like in reality, the Commanders should
probably be seven seven and a half point underdogs in
this game. The Eagles are dominant physically on the defensive
side of the ball and on the offensive side of
the ball. The Commanders are not going to have their
right guard Sam Cosmy, who's their best offensive lineman. The

(10:44):
eagles best defensive lineman is Jalen Carter. And normally you're
not going to worry about a right guard being out
as being a challenge for your pass protection. But when
Jalen Carter is rushing up the middle. Your right guard
might be the guy who needs to grab a piece
of him every once in a while. You're now not
going to have a guy, and so all of a
sudden these things change. You're already getting the benefit. I

(11:07):
think of Jaden Daniels being someone who people believe is
a cheat code, and they're overvaluing that in the scope
of the entire game.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah. I will say though, that CJ. Stroud didn't have
the mobility edge, which I've always thought mobility's best for
a quarterback in the first two years because as you're
learning NFL coverages and waiting for the light to go on,
you can just pick up first downs moving, whereas c J.

(11:38):
Stroud is going to pick up first downs throwing, and
so he is much more susceptible. As coverages get more sophisticated,
you face better teams. He had injuries on the old line.
They didn't have protection. I think running quarterbacks Lamar. He
never really dipped mahomes Allen. They just kept getting better.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Off.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Was was beholden to how good his O line was.
You know, bad Whitworth good, Whitworth leaves not as good
or around that time when Whitworth was aging, and then
he goes to Detroit. Not good, early line got better,
He's better, So I think I think Jaden. I think C. J.
Stroud's NFL comp was Goff, and like Goff, he deteriorates

(12:25):
with really bad line play significantly, whereas I think Jaden
is Lamar and Mahomes where it's just ascension because he
moves the chains while he's figuring out defenses and it
takes about even Mahomes said it was the beginning of
year three when everything just sort of slowed down. So
I don't think I think he's I think we're really

(12:47):
looking at something special here.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
I don't disagree.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
I think the guy is a brilliant player, and I
think it's more evidence that you want to get quarterbacks
who have a lot of experience playing in kind, who've
taken a lot of snaps, who've played a lot of games.
That's always been a threshold for GMS and coaches who
are looking to draft quarterbacks. I remember when Philip Rivers
came out, he had played so many games in college,

(13:12):
people didn't really know who he.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Was at NC State.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
I know I'm throwing a name out there, from like
twenty five years ago. But I remember this so clearly.
I was at ESPN the magazine, and we were doing
a draft issue, and it was the first time I
ever heard a scout talk about the importance of seeing
quarterbacks on tape with a lot of games as they
get older. And we're seeing that with Jaden Daniels, like

(13:35):
his experience level keeps him from being really frightened in
these experiences because he's so much older than the average
quarterback coming out, and he's had so many more snaps,
and he understands the rhythm of the game and understands
the moment a little bit better in addition to his
unbelievable talent. But I can guarantee you right now we

(13:58):
can set a number on it. The number of times
will set it at seven and a half at.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
This time next year. How many times over.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
The course of Sharper Square have I said to you, well,
commanders are overvalue here because Jaden Daniels is getting too
much credit and too much attention. I guarantee I'm going
to say that an every other week basis to you
on this show.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Let's go AFC. I'm riding with the bills. I have
for the last month. I feel they're the best team
in football. The Rams had to play a perfect game
at home to slip by in the Rams, I think
we're a very good team at the end. I'll take
the one and a half again. I think there's going
to be points scored. I think there's limitations on stopping
Allan and Mahomes. I think you get into these games.

(14:46):
Coaches are more willing. Brady and Andy Reid are more willing.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
To take risks.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
It's sudden death. You empty the playbook because you have
two weeks to prepare for the Super Bowl, so just
empty the playbook. I take the over forty seven and
a half bills plus one and a half. I can
absolutely see Kansas City winning. I think this is the
best version of Buffalo for two reasons. One, they do
not turn it over, they're not heavily penalized, and you
can't get to Josh Allen. They're the mature version, which

(15:12):
Baltimore hasn't become yet with Lamar. They're still. Like I've
said this before, Buffalo's always been a Ferrari with Josh Allen.
They just no longer get speeding tickets. They don't make
the mistakes. They don't get caught like they slow down
in front of the cops. So they have all the talent,
but they don't have that sort of and Baltimore's trying
to work theirself out of this. That's sort of like,

(15:33):
we can't slow down. We just we go one hundred
miles an hour. So I think they've become they become
the Chiefs, and I think eventually they're going to beat
the Chiefs, which they have in the regular season. Sharper
square bills plus the points sharp ish.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
It's been an interesting number.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
It opened at one and a half, and even though
the majority of the money, which indicates professional betters like
the bill, and the majority of the tickets, which also
indicates the public likes the bills, it's kind of stuck
at one and a half.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
In fact, there's been a.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
Little bit of sort of juice movement, meaning they're making
it more expensive to bet the one and a half
on the Chiefs because they want you to take that
one and a half because pretty soon they're going to
go to two. I think that you're on the professional side,
not in a dominant way. I'm going to play devil's advocate.

(16:34):
Everything you're saying is right. Josh Allen gets out of
the pocket. To me, he's as frightening as and frustrating
as Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahomes and their running game
this year has been so freaking good. They played the
number one team in defensive rush success rate in the
Broncos and rush them on the ground. They played the

(16:58):
number two team in defense rushed success rate in the
Ravens and crush them on the ground. The Chiefs are
not nearly as good at defending the run as either
the Ravens or the Broncos. And they're going to have
to figure out how to manage Josh Allen when it's
third and one or fourth and one, who's clearly unstoppable.
How they're going to have to manage James Cook. All

(17:18):
that is true, There is zero evidence colin that Patrick
Mahomes is going to lose this game. Zero like in
November on in games where the weather is forty degrees
or less, twenty three and two in his career. The

(17:40):
last loss was to Tom Brady in twenty nineteen. He's
won twenty in a row. Andy Reid with Mahomes with
an extra day of rest, just one extra day of rest,
which he has twenty and three fourteen and one at home.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
It's just.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
Why would I want to do this. I've been given
every opportunity to bet the Chiefs as a.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Short home dog.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
Patrick Mahomes seven straight AFC title games, three Super Bowls
in the past five years, going for third in a row.
He is going to challenge Tom Brady as the greatest
quarterback who's ever played, and he might do it before
he's thirty two years old. Like, what am I doing here?

(18:34):
Why would I bet against Patrick Mahomes. I had a
buddy call the other day and tell me I'm all
over the Bills. I'm like, why and why would you
do that? With confidence? Like you just can't. It's it's hard.
I get it. I'm afraid of it. But there's no
way I'm betting against Patrick Mahomes. There is no way.

(18:55):
But yeah, I like the.

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Speaker 1 (20:24):
So I saw a story this week, and apparently sometimes
in the media, I think media people like to be
viewed as smart and they try to figure stuff out.
I'm I'm guilty of this. I'm always trying to figure
out theories or why, and sometimes the answer is always
the simple answer. So I saw a story this week

(20:47):
and it just made me laugh where the college football
game was down three million viewers and everybody was flummixed.
And I'm like, guys, men like Trump statistically in this election,
young men love Trump, young men love football. Inauguration Day
was Monday, That's the day of the National Championship, and

(21:11):
so the number was down about three million viewers, especially
when Notre Dame fell behind thirty one to seven. That's
the answer, right, Like, it wasn't that we hate Ohio
State and Notre Dame. It was every four years in
inauguration with a polarizing Trump, who for the record, does
very well in this election with young men.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Yeah, I saw the numbers too, It's so funny you
say that because I saw the numbers this morning and
I saw a story just the headline, you know, down
whatever percent it was ten percent or whatever, it was
right twelve percent.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
And as soon as I.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Clicked out, and I'm like, someone's going to try to
explain why this is. This isn't rocket science trying to
find patterns when you do year over year comps. You
can do year over year comps with every podcast in
the Volume network. You can do it with your show.
The circumstances are always different. We do this at Action

(22:11):
all the time too. How come this Monday night game
is down from the year before, Well, who was the matchup?
Was it a game where you had Was it a
night where you had two Monday night games play being
played instead of one? Because when you have two Monday
night games, traffic sometimes dips a little bit because attention
is diverted and games start a little bit earlier, so
people aren't online as early. Like, there's so many easy

(22:34):
to unpack answers to so many of the questions that
are asked in sports. It's phenomenal that we try to
make it as complicated as we do. And to your
point about politics, mixing with sports, and impacting sports. Two
years ago, ninety three of the top one hundred broadcasts

(22:56):
in the United States were sports. This past year, twenty
four eighty one of the top one hundred. Do you
know why, because there were so many debates and so
many political events that we're leading the coverage that we're
getting so many more viewers. So of course there's going
to be changes on a year to year basis because

(23:16):
of the overall world and what's happening, not because of
anything about myopically what we think of Ohio State or
Notre Dame.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Well, I have, I have. I worked in local TV
for over a decade and so I still you know,
I still have friends in local TV. Not as many.
Many have retired or dodd or things or moved on.
But you know, it's like you're going to notice over
the next ten years there'll be a little bit of
renaissance in local TV ratings. Why because of climate change

(23:47):
and whenever you have severe weather or disasters. Local reporters
are better than national reporters. They've built trust for the
audience and they know the terrain. Dallas Reporter, a Chicago, Minneapolis,
Los Angeles, New York reporter if something happened to the
Brooklyn Bridge. Forgets CNN, I'm watching the local guys, right.

(24:10):
So LA local news ratings went up four hundred percent
over the last two weeks. And I watched the coverage.
It was significantly better than CNN. And it's not a
political It was significantly better than all national coverage because
the local reporters they all live in these towns and
they knew They just know the topography and the canyons

(24:32):
and the history, and so you know, it's you're gonna
watch local TV ratings and you can call it whatever
you want. But we're just getting more severe weather. It
snowed in Pensacola a foot, whatever, LA had a blizzard
two years ago, whatever. So yeah, I think most of
the stuff is fairly explainable. So when local TV ratings
have a renaissance here in the next decade, that's mostly

(24:54):
what it's gonna be.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
I love that you talk about the weather component of it,
because those are the only people I remember growing up
when I watched local TV, and even here in West
Herford where you used to live, like Stacy and I,
my wife and I, we love the local weather guy,
and I love the local weather guy because he knows

(25:18):
our town, and he knows all the towns around us,
and he knows the difference between here, we're in the valley. Here,
you're a little bit on a hill, so it's going
to be a little bit colder here in the morning,
you might have a little more frost. I live by
what this guy says, and I completely connect with what
you're saying. What's actually frightening. I don't know if you
saw it this week, but there is one broadcaster that

(25:41):
owns a lot of local stations that is letting go
of all their local weather people and having a singular
sort of source of weather information and segments that is
then being distributed out to the local channels. It's sort
of like the single service provider within an organization, which

(26:04):
is idiotic.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
That is the.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Opposite of what I would do over the next ten years.
Get rid of the local sports guys. Love them to death,
but everybody's watching some other platform. I want massive weather
people locally for the next decade. Whatever you want to
call it. We're just getting more combustible weather, hot, cold, wind, rain, whatever.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
It makes no sense, I saw it. I'm like, the
one thing people care about is weather. It's the only
thing people are checking for in the morning, Like that
is what can save local television. And you're going out there,
you're firing all the weather people. It made zero sense
to me.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Zero Sometimes I wish Sometimes I wish I was a billionaire.
Not because I'd buy a bunch of stuff, because I've
never had a second car. I'm not a boat guy.
I'm not a jewelry guy or a watch guy. I'm
not a collector. I'm really not. I don't care. But
there are things I would like. Things I would like

(27:07):
to do in society they can't afford to do. Like
I'll be honest with you, when Fox created a weather channel,
I wish I could have been the CEO of Fox's
Weather Channel. I would have loved that job. And if it,
if it paid what I make and I could still
make my mortgage, I was I've always wanted Like Byron Allen,
the former comedian who became a wildly successful entrepreneur, bought

(27:29):
the Weather Channel, and I think it's the only time
I've ever been jealous of another member of the American media.
Was Byron Allen bought the Weather Channel, and I'm like,
damn it.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
By the way.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
It might be Byron Allen who fired off a local
weather people because he was the weather to come from
the Weather Channel.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
All I know that is forget Oprah. That's the most
successful local media person in the history of our business.
He's the one guy I'm jealous of.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
I'm just checking right now.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Yeah, Alan Media Group replaces meteorologists, dozens of meteorologists with
pre recorded feats.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
So I don't know.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
I think we got a call brot Byron and we
got to tell him we think this is a bad idea,
and we are very respected and admired members of the media.
Do you have a take on the Jaguars firing Trent
Balky the GM and Liam Cohne deciding to go back
to the box as an assistant. I'll love Ben Johnson

(28:36):
the year before in them not being able to find
someone to take that job.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Plot twist Bucks offensive coach Liam Cohen has now done
a U turn is speaking with the Jaguars in person
for their head coaching job. So when you ask what
do you make of Trent Bulkey, this, Tom Pelasero reporting
this and Ian rappap this is what I think of

(29:01):
Trent Balke. Bulkey's there I'm not interested. Bulkey fired, let
me turn around the U haul. Is amazing that that
just tells you that Balkey was the orange cone in
the road.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
He was the roadblock.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
But it also goes even to prove the point coordinators
and job applicants and potential head coaches are willing to
be more selective, I think than they ever have been before.
And if they don't feel like they're being set up
in the right circumstances, they're not jumping at a job.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Cohen's good, Jack Laville, Yeah, no, he's he's good. I mean,
Baker leads the NFL in touchdown passes the last two seasons.
I like Mike Evans, I don't like him that much.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
Also, Todd Bowles just impressive. The fact that he had
Canalis turn turn Baker Mayfield around. Liam Cohen turned Baker
Mayfield around. He's gonna have to go find him again
a new guy if William Cone takes this job. But
I'm starting to like Todd Bowles quite a bit as
a head coach.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Yeah, his first year in New York, he almost didn't
know where to stand. He was such a kind of gentle,
low key personality. He was, you know, in the city
with Rex Ryan, it was like where is he? And
he spoke like an assistant or a coordinator. He just
didn't want to be in front of a microphone. But
I always thought he was thoughtful that anytime you heard

(30:30):
him talk, you know, he came across as like humble
and focused. Andy And I also think the internet doesn't
allow this. People improve, people get better, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
They just yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
I mean it's like like Brandon Staley's not going to
get a second chance, maybe as a coordinator, but not
as a head coach. But you know a lot of
these guys Raheem, Morris, Todd Bowles, there's something there. There's
a reason you hired him, Like you know, it's almost
like when you get a divorce in life. Well, there's
a reason you together for twelve years. I mean there
were some positives there. You produce good kids. You know,

(31:04):
you're good co parenting. There's no reason to hate each other.
Like it's shit happens. Like you're in big cities. You
have a bad stretch, your quarterback gets hurt, you don't
have a backup on the roster. I mean Mike McDaniel
from Miami a year and a half ago was the
bell of the ball and now we're all.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Like, you know, he's kind of.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
It doesn't feel like he owns the room like Dan Campbell.
I'm not sure if this works. It's the way it
works in life sometimes.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
All Right, buddy, I meant see you later.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
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