June 28, 2025 • 18 mins
Alexandre Pantoja IS BACK on the DC Check-In series with Daniel Cormier, and he claims despite multiple title defenses, he's as good as "he's EVER BEEN!" Pantoja talks about the rematch with Kai Kara-France from their first early encounter on The Ultimate Fighter, and why Kara-France has to be ready for a MUCH BETTER fighter today. Plus, Pantoja speaks on the GOAT conversation with him and Demetrious Johnson, and why today's era of the division is the most difficult it's ever been. And don't miss Alexandre explain to DC why he always shows up late to practice! #Volume #Herd
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume. This is the champ Alexandre Pantosia the Fitsers
belt this weekend against.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Kay Car France. How you doing, Champ? Everything going good?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
I was good, man, I was good. I'm super excited
to fight, to know. I love coming to Vegas to fight.
That's gonna be my fourth time fight for the belt
here in the second play, same arena. I feel like
I have Elvis Sprisley come to take a big show here.
Everybody expects a bureauful night in the National Fighter week. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Man, so your last fight dominant performance.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Was that what you expected going in because you not
only won by submission in the second round, you had
success on the feet in the first round, not where
he was expected to hold the advantage.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I think I'm I'm proved. I'm student proved myself. You know,
I'm still learning. I'm humble. I go to the gym
every day. I'm still learning how to throw the job.
I'm still learning how to choke people. Oh that's myself. Man.
I try to my best very so all the time,
and I'll not expect to finish like that because all
the time I'm put to my open it like the
(01:18):
best of the war. Yeah, I trained for that position,
you know, and I have the one more time, I
have the opportunity to be in the champ of the war.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
So you've won six fights inside the top fifty, you'd
beat three guys inside the top five. Now you have
three title defenses. You're on the verge of title defense
number four now. So long we would not even entertain
the idea that there could be another guy in the
go conversation at one twenty five because of Dimitrius Johnson.
(01:49):
Are you ready to kind of go, hey, I'm right here.
It's time for people to start taking notice that a
couple more title defenses you should be in that conversation.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Yeah, but I don't like to see this corporation because
the matsage also frightening. The different time, you know, the
different fly weight time.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
You know, now we have a Is it a better
time today?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
The guys are much better at flyweight, you believe today
than when he was.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I don't want to say the better, but you have
more more athletes now with the internet. He's super fast. Everything.
You see Kayasakura, guys bringing him because he's super excited.
You see that guy Joshuvan, why his country? Oh me
and Mark, you know, from far away. But he has opportunity, you.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Know, number one contender, he couldn't be next. If you
guys win.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
If you see my division, you have holy Ward there.
If you hit, you see top ten guys. Guy from Africa,
guy from Asia, Japan, your guy, have a guy from Australia,
from New Zealand, all different countries, you know. And I
don't want to respect the old generation because I'm leave,
I'm born and see all the guys fighting Moraga, Joe
(03:03):
Dodgson and everybody. He opened the door for us, you know,
and I think it right now we will make a
statement for everybody in the wood. People stalk bullshet before
about the flyweight Things different right now. You know, I
know that twenty twenty four it's the best year for
a flyweight division. You know, so many good cards, so
(03:24):
many main events, and uh, I'm the chimp of the war.
You know, that's super cool.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
So how do we go about putting you into that conversation?
Because for me, when I watch you.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I feel that you're just unbelievably underappreciated.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I don't think that people give you the respect that
you deserve for what you've done, and I don't know that.
I mean even the Pawfulan rankings. You're number nine right now.
I think that you're should be way higher than that.
They not always said rankings are stupid, right because he
just doesn't believe that the people that are responsible for
them understand the assignment. So how do we go about
(04:04):
having that conversation if you say, we can't really like
compare the errors?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Right now, it's so hard to keep the belt. You know,
you have so many good fights everywhere. You know, you
feel good. I don't know why it's gonna bring you
to you know, doesn't matter if you go to you
from China, you're from Venezuela, doesn't matter. You feel good.
You gonna put you in the show, you know. Yeah,
And that's how I say it's very difficult right now
defend this belt. What I did right now in the
(04:33):
flatweight is crazy, man. Uh, this division is so hard
to keep this belt. I beat Moreno and without a
couple of times. And these guys beat everybody else, you know, Yeah,
nobody passed for that guys, you.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Know Moreno still winning.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
He just won again, put himself back in position where
it might be a forefight between you two.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I'm ready for that on again. You know, I think
everybody want to watch that again. And I don't understand
people say Patois is underrated because everybody want to watch
my fight.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
They all love watching you.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
But it's like, I think that we should hold you
in higher regard, man, everybody should. Every time we talk
about fighters and champions, I always go and Pantosia, you know,
like and Pantosia and Pantosia because I think you are
winning in a way that yeah. I mean, you know,
you go through the hard ones, you go through the
easier ones, and you're still the champion. This weekend, you
(05:26):
have another opportunity to defend that championship against the.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Guy you fought before.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Ti Carl France fought you on the Ultimate Fighter. That
was a long time ago. Is there anything you can
take from that fight? Or are you two just completely
different fighters and you have to prepare yourself for another guy?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
All the fights different, Yeah, semi guys with semi guys,
Me and him. When you go to the Ultimate, you're
gonna remember I'm winning him one time, but all the
fights different. Doesn't matter. It's fifty fifth all the time.
It doesn't matter who you fight, and he's fifty fifth
though time, and uh, what I want in that fight
is our opportunity to show everybody how good I am.
(06:06):
And I have this opportunity in the International Fighter Week
went off the big guard of the year. Uh, and
that's what I want, you know, I want that fight
so bad, you know, I want to fight with the
high level guys. And kakr Fins proved he's a high
level guy. He knocked hm out everybody. Uh, and he
put in him that position, you know, and I want that.
You know, he's a mawoody sty yes, wad every everything else. Uh,
(06:32):
he's country with him. That's what I want, you know,
I want to prove myself all the time.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
You have beaten so many guys, as I said earlier.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Is that why we're getting Kayasakura fighting for the belt
where somebody else is coming in? Or Kai car France?
Because Kai car France knocked out Steve er Sag which
was crazy. It was a great performance. But prior to
that he had lost two fights. He instagram messaged you
telling you he wanted a title fight because you've been
(07:01):
so dominant. Is that why we're getting you fighting these
guys where guy wins once and it's it's a new matchup.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
So we see him in there with Pantosia.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
That's something very nice to have. You know, I gave
hope to the whole division. Everybody win the fight called
my name because you know, maybe he can put in
the front and go fight for the belt. You know,
I give this opportunity for everybody in that division because
I beat everybody, yeah, and everybody else to have this position.
You see Joshuva on right now. He got the tickets.
(07:30):
You know, they go ticket for the winning Wonka Frica
the guy he found the tickets, you know, and now
you're gonna fight to the Revolt. If he passed for Revut,
he's the next you know. Yeah, uh, that's so nice
to have that. You know, that's my last fight, my
fight before SACas stever side that top ten, Yeah, and
fight for with me and then guys bringing a Sakuda
(07:52):
and I beat him too. You know, that's super nice man.
I'm very proud myself, my team, everybody worked very hard
to that position.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
You and I in the APEX one time, I don't
know who you had just beat it? Did you beat
Manil cop already. It was that close fight, right, you
had a close fight, you beat Maniel Cop and you
called for a title fight. Brandon Moreno was sitting at
the desk, and you won so many times before you
ultimately finally got that title shot. But now you're just
gifted championship fights? Is that because of what you went
(08:22):
through to get there?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Is that why?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Because you have to wait so long, you have to
beat so many people that you're like, hey man, you
went okay, come on, I'll fight you with everybody, Like
I mean, you waited for your title fight.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Sure, you fought everybody. It was this guy and then
how many fights did he win before he got a
title fight?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, you could have got it after two because you
beat the best guys.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Now guys getting title fights after one?
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Did you?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Do you understand? I don't really want to make these
guys wait. If they want to fight, they can get
a fight with the champ.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
That's nice and all. That's I want to fight with
the new guys, of course, But what I think right now,
uh doesn't matter. It's gonna be a rematch with to
Moreno or Revalve the best fight need to go to
the fight fight for the belt. The best guy needs
to fight for the belts. That's what I think. Uh
Kai Kara face put in his position right now. Everybody
want to see a new blood. I beat him before,
(09:20):
but nobody remember if that a long time ago. Uh,
but maybe I won Kai Kara France, and maybe Revolt
won the Joshuva. This makes sense fights with the Revouve again,
everybody agree with that. You know, Revut com for two wins. Uh,
maybe he got a terror victory right now? Who's gonna
say Revelt don't don't deserve that fight?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
You know?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
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Speaker 1 (11:02):
So I'm gonna read you something from KAYAKR France. Right,
Oh yeah, he can't keep me down. I'm too fast,
and that you will get sloppy and when you get sloppy,
you'll open up opportunities for him to get to finish.
He also says that he respects you, Tommy, not being disrespectful,
(11:23):
but he's coming for your head. That you'll get sloppy
and that'll open up opportunities for him to finish you,
something that no one's been able to do.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
What do you think when you hear that?
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Make me motivation? You know, Kaka Face is a very
good fire But I when I'm there the well, I
never believe in the comfort zone. You know.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
If he wants bringing me to that that place, I
bring him to the deeper waters, you know. And Uh,
I'm not sure he can breed that, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
If he think he can, like I defend my my grappler,
he's wrong. Man. I'm a lot.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
After nine years I fight with him and the tail
to mid fighter, I'm evolved so much. I'm evolved so
much because now in the Champ of the World and uh,
Saturday nights, I'm fighting with another Kai, my last fighter,
I fight with the Kaid and I'll have a Kaiker
Friends but he's gonna finish with the same team. I
want to win the fight, maybe with the choke again.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Oh you think you're taking down huh oh.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, He's got the highest takedown on the fence in
the division, but not many can stop you from getting
them to the ground.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
And once you get him on the ground, get the back.
I mean, you're dangerous.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
I'm the right position or you know my corners, you
know my gym, yep, you know everything I need to
pass through to get this position. And I have so
much more to conquer, you know. And uh I read,
I read to that. I read to the high level guys,
and uh, I'm super excited to that fight. I just
want to say, guys, expect the best version from uh
(12:57):
Pantosia with my new charts and.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Was a nice champ. Those shorts a nice jamp you
design those choose.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Hey those are nice, nice color too, nice black and red,
little red and gold.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Ready to buy, guys.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
He sold out soon, They're gonna sell off very soon.
I'm gonna get a pair for my son. He will
love those.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
You spoke a little bit about the hardships that you're
going through in your life to be living this life
now right as the champion, comfortable taking care of your family,
Like what does that mean for a kid? Uh that
went through all that you went through to get to
this point.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Man, I love it. I love to look through the
past and see everything I need to pass through to
get this position. You know, every bus I need to take,
every metro I needed like a take every hard situation.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Sometimes UH don't have money to feed myself.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
UH need to travel three hours to go through the
training with Jose Aldo and I'm with all the guys.
I do it. I did that lot. I did that
a lot to get the position right now and so
crazy because I see before it's much easy right now,
you know, because in the past I needed working, I
needed to do a lot of stuff, and right now
just focusing myself. You know, I just go to the gym.
(14:13):
I live like a four minutes from.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Them, really, you know.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yeah, man, and I still got uh, I'm still get
from me because he gets late.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I'm living for Brazilion times. Late Brazilion time. Dude gets
n already late. Right, you gotta get you gotta get there.
You gotta get that.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Like I tried. Hey, but with all this something happened.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I will say this, but I will say this. Nine
fifine is on time. Bro.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
One time, when I first started training, I went to
trade with Verdume no Gerra and all these guys practice
ten o'clock. They showed up at eleven Bro. Eleven o'clock,
they roll into the gym. Everybody's just waiting.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I was like, what is this?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
First time I heard Brazilian time. You used to hear
colored people time. You know, black people always late. First
time I heard Brazilian time.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Y'all worse than us. I'm not late for myself.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
You're late.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
He gotta wait for the chance in my life, that's
my time. This is the champ. The champs like, hey,
I'm one minute early. Champ used to get the example.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
He is the example. I trained very hard, man, you
train hard? Oh yeah, man, you know that.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
When I'm the gym man, I black cabero. I put
to all my life. Man, I see the practicus. I
sometimes I have fever, you know. Yeah, I'm training very
hard every day.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Man.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I will say this, though, nine fifty nine, you show up,
you don't have your gear on until ten fifteen, right,
I go.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Into my clothes. Oh you wear it sometimes wraps wraps Mike.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
He walks in at nine fifty nine with his wraps on,
that's a different ball game.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
If he walks in with his wraps on.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
This shows.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Shows up with his head gear on. You're driving with
your head gear on with my gloves. This is crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
He shows up ready to go, Chimp, I'll let you
go on this one. What does Saturday night look like?
How does this fight end? And uh?
Speaker 2 (16:15):
What is gonna be? Uh? The emotion from you and
your team from America top team after uh UFC three
seventeen A.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Gift, man, I have a gift to fight for that company,
you know, to you have to give him the opportunity
to go to the inside of the alcam and fight
for million people.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
You know.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
That's what I want. That's why I live my life. Uh.
I have my kids in the crowd, my wife with me. Ah, Man,
I like, I pray to the victory all the time.
And uh, I'm not to I'm not a genius to
know what's gonna happen, you know, but I'm gonna. I'm
(16:52):
gonna try so bad to win this victory, you know,
and bring them back to to my home, you know,
to to my people and uh, we celebrate.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
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Speaker 1 (17:04):
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Speaker 1 (18:00):
For Charles Olivera, if he wants to become the champion
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The one tak in the center of the octagon.
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Speaker 2 (18:20):
We know that Charles is durable, We know that he
is a guy that can win off of his back, but.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
We also know that he can be hurt and if
Tapouria gets you going backwards, it makes you strike.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
In boxing, he can put anybody's lights off. This is
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Speaker 1 (18:34):
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The volume. This is the champ Alexandre Pantosia the Fitsers
belt this weekend against.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Kay Car France. How you doing, Champ? Everything going good?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
I was good, man, I was good. I'm super excited
to fight, to know. I love coming to Vegas to fight.
That's gonna be my fourth time fight for the belt
here in the second play, same arena. I feel like
I have Elvis Sprisley come to take a big show here.
Everybody expects a bureauful night in the National Fighter week. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Man, so your last fight dominant performance.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Was that what you expected going in because you not
only won by submission in the second round, you had
success on the feet in the first round, not where
he was expected to hold the advantage.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I think I'm I'm proved. I'm student proved myself. You know,
I'm still learning. I'm humble. I go to the gym
every day. I'm still learning how to throw the job.
I'm still learning how to choke people. Oh that's myself. Man.
I try to my best very so all the time,
and I'll not expect to finish like that because all
the time I'm put to my open it like the
(01:18):
best of the war. Yeah, I trained for that position,
you know, and I have the one more time, I
have the opportunity to be in the champ of the war.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
So you've won six fights inside the top fifty, you'd
beat three guys inside the top five. Now you have
three title defenses. You're on the verge of title defense
number four now. So long we would not even entertain
the idea that there could be another guy in the
go conversation at one twenty five because of Dimitrius Johnson.
(01:49):
Are you ready to kind of go, hey, I'm right here.
It's time for people to start taking notice that a
couple more title defenses you should be in that conversation.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Yeah, but I don't like to see this corporation because
the matsage also frightening. The different time, you know, the
different fly weight time.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
You know, now we have a Is it a better
time today?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
The guys are much better at flyweight, you believe today
than when he was.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I don't want to say the better, but you have
more more athletes now with the internet. He's super fast. Everything.
You see Kayasakura, guys bringing him because he's super excited.
You see that guy Joshuvan, why his country? Oh me
and Mark, you know, from far away. But he has opportunity, you.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Know, number one contender, he couldn't be next. If you
guys win.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
If you see my division, you have holy Ward there.
If you hit, you see top ten guys. Guy from Africa,
guy from Asia, Japan, your guy, have a guy from Australia,
from New Zealand, all different countries, you know. And I
don't want to respect the old generation because I'm leave,
I'm born and see all the guys fighting Moraga, Joe
(03:03):
Dodgson and everybody. He opened the door for us, you know,
and I think it right now we will make a
statement for everybody in the wood. People stalk bullshet before
about the flyweight Things different right now. You know, I
know that twenty twenty four it's the best year for
a flyweight division. You know, so many good cards, so
(03:24):
many main events, and uh, I'm the chimp of the war.
You know, that's super cool.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
So how do we go about putting you into that conversation?
Because for me, when I watch you.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I feel that you're just unbelievably underappreciated.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I don't think that people give you the respect that
you deserve for what you've done, and I don't know that.
I mean even the Pawfulan rankings. You're number nine right now.
I think that you're should be way higher than that.
They not always said rankings are stupid, right because he
just doesn't believe that the people that are responsible for
them understand the assignment. So how do we go about
(04:04):
having that conversation if you say, we can't really like
compare the errors?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Right now, it's so hard to keep the belt. You know,
you have so many good fights everywhere. You know, you
feel good. I don't know why it's gonna bring you
to you know, doesn't matter if you go to you
from China, you're from Venezuela, doesn't matter. You feel good.
You gonna put you in the show, you know. Yeah,
And that's how I say it's very difficult right now
defend this belt. What I did right now in the
(04:33):
flatweight is crazy, man. Uh, this division is so hard
to keep this belt. I beat Moreno and without a
couple of times. And these guys beat everybody else, you know, Yeah,
nobody passed for that guys, you.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Know Moreno still winning.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
He just won again, put himself back in position where
it might be a forefight between you two.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I'm ready for that on again. You know, I think
everybody want to watch that again. And I don't understand
people say Patois is underrated because everybody want to watch
my fight.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
They all love watching you.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
But it's like, I think that we should hold you
in higher regard, man, everybody should. Every time we talk
about fighters and champions, I always go and Pantosia, you know,
like and Pantosia and Pantosia because I think you are
winning in a way that yeah. I mean, you know,
you go through the hard ones, you go through the
easier ones, and you're still the champion. This weekend, you
(05:26):
have another opportunity to defend that championship against the.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Guy you fought before.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Ti Carl France fought you on the Ultimate Fighter. That
was a long time ago. Is there anything you can
take from that fight? Or are you two just completely
different fighters and you have to prepare yourself for another guy?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
All the fights different, Yeah, semi guys with semi guys,
Me and him. When you go to the Ultimate, you're
gonna remember I'm winning him one time, but all the
fights different. Doesn't matter. It's fifty fifth all the time.
It doesn't matter who you fight, and he's fifty fifth
though time, and uh, what I want in that fight
is our opportunity to show everybody how good I am.
(06:06):
And I have this opportunity in the International Fighter Week
went off the big guard of the year. Uh, and
that's what I want, you know, I want that fight
so bad, you know, I want to fight with the
high level guys. And kakr Fins proved he's a high
level guy. He knocked hm out everybody. Uh, and he
put in him that position, you know, and I want that.
You know, he's a mawoody sty yes, wad every everything else. Uh,
(06:32):
he's country with him. That's what I want, you know,
I want to prove myself all the time.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
You have beaten so many guys, as I said earlier.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Is that why we're getting Kayasakura fighting for the belt
where somebody else is coming in? Or Kai car France?
Because Kai car France knocked out Steve er Sag which
was crazy. It was a great performance. But prior to
that he had lost two fights. He instagram messaged you
telling you he wanted a title fight because you've been
(07:01):
so dominant. Is that why we're getting you fighting these
guys where guy wins once and it's it's a new matchup.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
So we see him in there with Pantosia.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
That's something very nice to have. You know, I gave
hope to the whole division. Everybody win the fight called
my name because you know, maybe he can put in
the front and go fight for the belt. You know,
I give this opportunity for everybody in that division because
I beat everybody, yeah, and everybody else to have this position.
You see Joshuva on right now. He got the tickets.
(07:30):
You know, they go ticket for the winning Wonka Frica
the guy he found the tickets, you know, and now
you're gonna fight to the Revolt. If he passed for Revut,
he's the next you know. Yeah, uh, that's so nice
to have that. You know, that's my last fight, my
fight before SACas stever side that top ten, Yeah, and
fight for with me and then guys bringing a Sakuda
(07:52):
and I beat him too. You know, that's super nice man.
I'm very proud myself, my team, everybody worked very hard
to that position.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
You and I in the APEX one time, I don't
know who you had just beat it? Did you beat
Manil cop already. It was that close fight, right, you
had a close fight, you beat Maniel Cop and you
called for a title fight. Brandon Moreno was sitting at
the desk, and you won so many times before you
ultimately finally got that title shot. But now you're just
gifted championship fights? Is that because of what you went
(08:22):
through to get there?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Is that why?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Because you have to wait so long, you have to
beat so many people that you're like, hey man, you
went okay, come on, I'll fight you with everybody, Like
I mean, you waited for your title fight.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Sure, you fought everybody. It was this guy and then
how many fights did he win before he got a
title fight?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, you could have got it after two because you
beat the best guys.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Now guys getting title fights after one?
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Did you?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Do you understand? I don't really want to make these
guys wait. If they want to fight, they can get
a fight with the champ.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
That's nice and all. That's I want to fight with
the new guys, of course, But what I think right now,
uh doesn't matter. It's gonna be a rematch with to
Moreno or Revalve the best fight need to go to
the fight fight for the belt. The best guy needs
to fight for the belts. That's what I think. Uh
Kai Kara face put in his position right now. Everybody
want to see a new blood. I beat him before,
(09:20):
but nobody remember if that a long time ago. Uh,
but maybe I won Kai Kara France, and maybe Revolt
won the Joshuva. This makes sense fights with the Revouve again,
everybody agree with that. You know, Revut com for two wins. Uh,
maybe he got a terror victory right now? Who's gonna
say Revelt don't don't deserve that fight?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
You know?
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Speaker 1 (11:02):
So I'm gonna read you something from KAYAKR France. Right,
Oh yeah, he can't keep me down. I'm too fast,
and that you will get sloppy and when you get sloppy,
you'll open up opportunities for him to get to finish.
He also says that he respects you, Tommy, not being disrespectful,
(11:23):
but he's coming for your head. That you'll get sloppy
and that'll open up opportunities for him to finish you,
something that no one's been able to do.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
What do you think when you hear that?
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Make me motivation? You know, Kaka Face is a very
good fire But I when I'm there the well, I
never believe in the comfort zone. You know.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
If he wants bringing me to that that place, I
bring him to the deeper waters, you know. And Uh,
I'm not sure he can breed that, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
If he think he can, like I defend my my grappler,
he's wrong. Man. I'm a lot.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
After nine years I fight with him and the tail
to mid fighter, I'm evolved so much. I'm evolved so
much because now in the Champ of the World and uh,
Saturday nights, I'm fighting with another Kai, my last fighter,
I fight with the Kaid and I'll have a Kaiker
Friends but he's gonna finish with the same team. I
want to win the fight, maybe with the choke again.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Oh you think you're taking down huh oh.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, He's got the highest takedown on the fence in
the division, but not many can stop you from getting
them to the ground.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
And once you get him on the ground, get the back.
I mean, you're dangerous.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
I'm the right position or you know my corners, you
know my gym, yep, you know everything I need to
pass through to get this position. And I have so
much more to conquer, you know. And uh I read,
I read to that. I read to the high level guys,
and uh, I'm super excited to that fight. I just
want to say, guys, expect the best version from uh
(12:57):
Pantosia with my new charts and.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Was a nice champ. Those shorts a nice jamp you
design those choose.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Hey those are nice, nice color too, nice black and red,
little red and gold.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Ready to buy, guys.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
He sold out soon, They're gonna sell off very soon.
I'm gonna get a pair for my son. He will
love those.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
You spoke a little bit about the hardships that you're
going through in your life to be living this life
now right as the champion, comfortable taking care of your family,
Like what does that mean for a kid? Uh that
went through all that you went through to get to
this point.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Man, I love it. I love to look through the
past and see everything I need to pass through to
get this position. You know, every bus I need to take,
every metro I needed like a take every hard situation.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Sometimes UH don't have money to feed myself.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
UH need to travel three hours to go through the
training with Jose Aldo and I'm with all the guys.
I do it. I did that lot. I did that
a lot to get the position right now and so
crazy because I see before it's much easy right now,
you know, because in the past I needed working, I
needed to do a lot of stuff, and right now
just focusing myself. You know, I just go to the gym.
(14:13):
I live like a four minutes from.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Them, really, you know.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yeah, man, and I still got uh, I'm still get
from me because he gets late.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I'm living for Brazilion times. Late Brazilion time. Dude gets
n already late. Right, you gotta get you gotta get there.
You gotta get that.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Like I tried. Hey, but with all this something happened.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I will say this, but I will say this. Nine
fifine is on time. Bro.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
One time, when I first started training, I went to
trade with Verdume no Gerra and all these guys practice
ten o'clock. They showed up at eleven Bro. Eleven o'clock,
they roll into the gym. Everybody's just waiting.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I was like, what is this?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
First time I heard Brazilian time. You used to hear
colored people time. You know, black people always late. First
time I heard Brazilian time.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Y'all worse than us. I'm not late for myself.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
You're late.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
He gotta wait for the chance in my life, that's
my time. This is the champ. The champs like, hey,
I'm one minute early. Champ used to get the example.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
He is the example. I trained very hard, man, you
train hard? Oh yeah, man, you know that.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
When I'm the gym man, I black cabero. I put
to all my life. Man, I see the practicus. I
sometimes I have fever, you know. Yeah, I'm training very
hard every day.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Man.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I will say this, though, nine fifty nine, you show up,
you don't have your gear on until ten fifteen, right,
I go.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Into my clothes. Oh you wear it sometimes wraps wraps Mike.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
He walks in at nine fifty nine with his wraps on,
that's a different ball game.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
If he walks in with his wraps on.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
This shows.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Shows up with his head gear on. You're driving with
your head gear on with my gloves. This is crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
He shows up ready to go, Chimp, I'll let you
go on this one. What does Saturday night look like?
How does this fight end? And uh?
Speaker 2 (16:15):
What is gonna be? Uh? The emotion from you and
your team from America top team after uh UFC three
seventeen A.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Gift, man, I have a gift to fight for that company,
you know, to you have to give him the opportunity
to go to the inside of the alcam and fight
for million people.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
You know.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
That's what I want. That's why I live my life. Uh.
I have my kids in the crowd, my wife with me. Ah, Man,
I like, I pray to the victory all the time.
And uh, I'm not to I'm not a genius to
know what's gonna happen, you know, but I'm gonna. I'm
(16:52):
gonna try so bad to win this victory, you know,
and bring them back to to my home, you know,
to to my people and uh, we celebrate.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
My man. Thank you for checking it again. Guys.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
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You only got to wait fifteen minutes to get right
to the action. And these guys are gonna get to
the action on Saturday night in the main event.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
For Charles Olivera, if he wants to become the champion
for the second time, he has got to be.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
The one tak in the center of the octagon.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
When Charles Olivera has his most success, that's beIN Pourier
Michael Chandler. He is the advancing party and for Illiot
to Pouria to become the champ, he has got to
find ways to trap Olivera and get him backing up.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
We know that Charles is durable, We know that he
is a guy that can win off of his back, but.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
We also know that he can be hurt and if
Tapouria gets you going backwards, it makes you strike.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
In boxing, he can put anybody's lights off. This is
a massive fight.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Both of these guys are primed and ready to go
and become the lightweight champion in the world. We're gonna
see who can get the job done. Ay, and for
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