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November 13, 2024 • 33 mins

Daniel Cormier and Ben Askren ARE BACK with a brand new edition of Funky and the Champ. Askren GOES IN ON why he believes although Jon Jones is an MMA GOAT, he's STILL avoiding Tom Aspinall in his near future. Plus, DC and Ben talk about the possibility of Alex Pereira and Jon Jones fighting for the BMF title after Jones made it public that's the next fight he wants. And don't miss DC and Askren talk Mike Tyson vs. Jake Paul on Netflix, Michael Chandler vs. Charles Oliveira, and Donald Trump being in attendance for this week's UFC 309 fights in New York City. #Volume #Herd

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Speaker 3 (01:11):
Let's go. What's up, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Welcome to a brand new episode of Funking the champ
on Daniel Cormier. That's Funky Ben Asking. It's UFC three
to zer nine week finally been the biggest and the
baddest will be determined this weekend at Steve AlCH.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
Will it be or will it be? Because I got
some questions.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
That's something we gotta get into a little bit later
in the show.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
But first been you just left yoga?

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Huh?

Speaker 1 (01:46):
How was it? I didn't. Well, I go with my
wife usually once a week in the mornings.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
It was great, hot got you hot yoga.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
You gotta sweat. Can't do regular I know.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
So so one time I swear Bro, I was in.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
I was in.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
I fought somebody won a world title. Go to hot
yoga on Monday. Okay, I'm in there with all these women.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
I was going so hard because I was in shape.
I had just fought a twenty five minute fight. It
was so hot and it was so hard. I like
faked an injury, Bro to get out of your hot room.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Hot stop, No you didn't. That's so embarrassing. That's so embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
The UFC champion and they all knew who I was.
Fake's an injury to get out of hot yoga?

Speaker 1 (02:31):
What injury could you possibly fake?

Speaker 3 (02:32):
What?

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Hamstring pole?

Speaker 2 (02:34):
I was like, ah, jeez, I think I did something
my knee and I was like, ah, I need to
get out of that room.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
It was so hot.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
How hot is it in there for you?

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Guys are not not hot enough to be a quitter? Bro,
I quit? I was What would John Smith say? He
would have been so pissed at me? I was.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Honestly, by the time my body timperature came down, I
was disappointed. It's like, you know, you have that embarrassment,
like after you do something and then you're embarrassed after
I had that embarrassment sitting outside that hot yoga rou
Shut up, dude, there's not funny. So John Jones and
Steve baby Oachs are fighting this weekend. Bro, this whole

(03:11):
subplot has started, and we have beat this copy to
death to death, but it seems as though it's getting
bigger and it's more present than ever.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
It's right, listen, I need I think we need to
pull the people because I feel like maybe it's just
because I'm slightly autistic and I can't let it go
that the full truth is not being heard. Like it's
driving me insane. Well, John keeps saying, oh, maybe I'll
fight al Peer and Tom he wants to fight next.
I understand, but he's saying, well that Tom Lasholet doesn't.

(03:43):
So he's giving you all these reasons. But the real
reason is, that's my toughest fight. That's the toughest guy.
That guy is undefeated. He's won the heavyweight title. He's
defended the heavyweight title I also hold. So they made
these two essentially parallel heavyweight titles.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Listen, I actually.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
Really like step A, so I hate every time I
have to say this, but he hasn't fought in four years.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
But he actually looks pretty good. I watched.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
He looks good as a good spirit.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
He seems still fast.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
I was watching.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
No, this is this is where, this is where the
people love it when I hold you in check because
you're sometimes a company man, Daniel. But listen, because someone
looks good doesn't mean they can fight good years.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
I also have some inside information from one what hey, look,
I have some.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
We don't know.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
We just don't know. He hasn't fun for you.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Listen, listen, I have some inside information, breaking news.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Mike the Sabbit and it's.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
Over.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
I have some inside information from one Mike Disabito. As
a disclaimer, he is from Ohio.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Claimer, Hey, he's borderline insane.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
My little brother is telling me Steve is ready to
shock the world. He's plus eighty five one hundred to
win by submission. They feel like the stand up is
on point. They say that they are ready for the grappling. Dude,
I can't help but shake this feeling that as we

(05:18):
get closer, Ben, this is much closer than we are giving.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
This fight credit for.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Well, it's not a company, man, It is much closer
then we are giving this guy credit for.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
I love that you're selling this. I can appreciate.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
They want to fight was August of twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
But do you want me to tell you how big
it is?

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Well, I don't. I just don't believe you. Do you
want me to tell you how big is?

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yesterday I had to send in my phone number, address,
social security number, full name, birthday because.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Guess who's in the building.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
The President elect of course, the President of No, he doesn't.
The President elect is in the building to watch the
biggest and the baddest fight.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Dude.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
Well, I think he's actually coming to watch Bone Nickel.
In all fairness he thinks, so dude, he.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Loves it's a better fight than your group the credits
for Ben.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
Okay, let's see here's the things. I hope it's a
good fight. I actually like Steve. You know what is
funniest because it's weird. I felt this when I was
on full rest of all time sometimes because I felt
the need of what say what I thought the truth was,
I felt like people got mad at me and didn't
like me. When it's like, well, I don't actually dislike you, like,
you know, I think it's actually really cool. John Jones
is training with Gordon Ryan and Gable Stevenson, Like that's

(06:34):
freaking cool.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Like he's bringing some of the best guys.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
Steve a undoubtedly, if we just says resumes of heavyweights,
he's top three for sure. But again, he just hasn't
fought in four years. That's a really long time. I
don't know what he's gonna look like on Saturday. And
again there's this guy tom Asminal who's undefeated, who has
a parallel So at this point there's just two UFC

(06:58):
heavyweight belts.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Because for some reason, it really is like I don't
understand why we aren't just saying it. I'm not as
a heavyweight champion too like he is. Yes, it's like
he's actually fighting defending, and we got these two guys
who are legends and who are great that are like
we're fighting each other and nobody else like, so it's
like you have to heveryweight champs. Hey, is there something
to John Jones saying he weighs to thirty five? Because

(07:20):
I thought in the fight against Cyril Gon he was
too heavy. I thought he looked weird, he was too big,
he looked puffy. Really, he said too, he said he's
two thirty five. He said he used to walk around
around that when he was fighting at light heavyweight. I
thought John Jones, the light heavyweight, could just fight at
heavyweight and compete without cutting.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Wait, yeah, I always thought that too.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Well.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
I mean it was funny because actually, at the same
time that John Jones and I mean both of you
were light heavyweight champions. H Stepe at that time was
the headweight champion, and even a very small heavyweight. I
mean I wanted it a couple of times waiting like
two twenty seven or something, the mid two thirties, okay,

(08:01):
which I thought he was smaller one time.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
I'm gonna google it.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
So Lewis, he was was like two thirty when we fought.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
Okay, So whereas you know, you and John, I'm sure
both of you in your non camp you know, you
win a fight, you go to camp, you eat whatever
you want.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
You probably get heavier than that, which I always thought
was hilarious. Yeah, no, no, we would, We would.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
We were both pretty big for the weight class, and
I just think that this fight is big. But yes,
we have a tom Aspinall problem. We absolutely have a
tom Assball problem. And honestly, do you think John's just
smart enough to do what he's doing to rile up people?
You control people, You control people and go, oh, you

(08:42):
love this guy so much. I'm not fighting him, but
in reality you might know you you might fight him,
or you might have to fight him.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Do you think he's trolling because it's hard for me?

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Well, what do you make of me? Said he's gonna retire.
Do you think he's actually gonna retire?

Speaker 2 (08:56):
No, I think he's gonna fight. I think he's gonna
need to fight tom Asmenal, are you gonna fight Alex Perera?
He wants to fight Alex pereyra bad bro like, and
why would I mean, it's so hard not to be
disrespected to Alex, Like, it's hard not to disrespect the
Alex when you respect him so much. But it just
still seems like there's that big glaring hole in his game.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Yes, and nobody can test it.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
And when guys do wrestle him a little bit, they
hold him down, bro Like, we watch Izzy hold him down,
we watch Albohovich hold him down and win the first round.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
A guy like wrestling, John is wat sed perior to
both of those guys.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Exactly bro in terms of wrestling and grounded poond like
it would be very difficult to fight for Alex, but
John said he wants to fight him, and he keeps
like he said, Tom Asmnhall is essentially a nobody, bro.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
That's why he's not fighting.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
Yes, I know, and so again when when the full
truth isn't being told, it's frustrating and and for me,
I understand that that the UFC has entertainment part, but
to me, it's also a sport.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
It is a sport.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
Point of the sport is the figure who the best
is and and you know, on top of this, we
already had this guy Francis and Gano who's who just left,
and now he's out here has the heavyweight champ as
the heavyweight champion, so he's out there like, well, could
he be the best?

Speaker 1 (10:13):
I think there's actually probably.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
The heavyweight championship is all weird right now in the
UFC weird.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
So yeah, so it's frustrating beuse I wondered who the
best guy is? I would love I would love to
see them all fight.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
But it feels it feels like it feels like to me,
as we've gotten closer, it doesn't seem as outlandish that
Steepe and Jones are fighting this weekend for the heavyweight time.
Initially it seemed like these guys are holding the division
on hostage.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
They're not the best, Tom Asmall is, But as we.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Get closer, I'm like, maybe they are the best. I
swear to got him. I really feel like that.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
So, hey, I guess I don't even know the answer
to this. Why did why has taken almost four years off?

Speaker 2 (10:52):
He was only fighting for the belt, dude, He literally
stood on his business. He stood on businesses said I'm
not fighting unless it's for the belt.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
Would have got so if he would have never got
a title shot, he would have been done.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
He would be done. Okay, that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
I'm only fighting for the belt and he said he
was waiting for ultimately he held out long enough to
where he got it.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
But I think that if Cyril Gun would have beat
John Jones, see Steve b A was done. Steve what
what save Steve A?

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Was John Jones saying I want to fight Steve A
Miocic because he wouldn't have gotten that title fight, or
he would have gotten it before when Francis left, they
would have said, we need to put this guy back
into a championship fight.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Uh okay, so let me.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
Can I tell you one more thing I've heard about
this because I was thinking about, you know this thing
because it is frustrating me, and you know I and
I want to make sure I'm being intellectually honest with
myself and not trying to be biased or emotional anything.
It's like, you know, so, so John wants to fight
Steve Bay for legacy and because I said, I already
admitted Steve Ay has one of the top resumes, but
he's in fun forever. So like take like what Aarson

(11:57):
Sylva loses to Chris Widman right when he lost the belt. Okay,
now go four years from that date. Yep, you get
as much credit for beating Anderson Silla four years later.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
And I think the answer is.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
No, no, no, oh, that's a great that's a great. Uh.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Right, do you see what I'm saying, Like, I don't
think you do.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Or for example, what you're saying is, even if John
beats him today, is not like beating him back in
twenty seventeen, eighteen twenty tech.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
No another guy would be like Jose Aldo for example.
Remember for a while he was just completely unbeatable, unstocked
and kind of knocked him out, and then now no
one thinks kind of the same way about him. And
you know, I think we could think up some other
examples over the course of history that would be just
like that.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
And so that's kind of how I feel about it.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
I just think that Jones like really loves he loves
his legacy. He wants to protect it at all costs,
and I think that at this point in his career,
I don't know that he wants to fight a bigger
guy that can Russell, that has tremendous striking can do
all these things that Tom aspinall can do right now, So.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
Then aren't you leaving a different legacy a little bit, Daniel,
aren't you leaving the legacy?

Speaker 2 (13:00):
You know what?

Speaker 3 (13:00):
I stop.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
I don't think that he worries about that because imagine this, right,
after all that happened in the past with me and
other things that have happened, He's never been truly held
accountable for those things, essessially by fans. Fans still call
him the greatest of all time. Fans still say he
did this and he did that. So it's like, doesn't

(13:25):
really matter as long as you keep that zero no
matter what happens.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
He lost to Matt hammil of course, yes, but.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Like as long as you never see him actually get
beat in a fight, I don't think it matters what
happens outside because if it did, really bro because if
it did, all the things that happened in the Bill
to our fights, the things that happened that outside of
the octagon, they would be more present in his story.

(13:55):
Right now, it seems like those things are all like archaic,
they're in the archives. Nobody talks about it anymore. It's
like a whole new guy. And sure, he's changed. So
in five years, if he retires and Tom Aspinall at
some point loses right to someone, nobody will remember that.
In twenty twenty four, John Jones refused to fight him.

(14:18):
John Jones will still just be the undefeated guy. I'm
telling you that that's mine.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Huh. I mean that's interesting. So I mean when I
think about.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
John Jones, I think about and this is kind of
I said this my Arson Silvia, because you know, Rogan
actually said this.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
He was talking about this.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
Oh you're just you're talking to Trump about it, which
was hilarious because like Trump was actually just genuinely interested
in fighting, but he was talking about when he talks
about who the best of all time is.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
I actually think they maybe were talking about John Jones.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
And Joe was saying, because some people fight for so long,
it's not fair to count the latter part against them
so much like Anderson, Like okay, so what Joe counts
is like the prime.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
And so I think if you.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
Look at John Jones, say we'll say eleven through sixteen,
I mean, because his stretch there.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Actually I don't remember this.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
It was he fought four times in twenty eleven and
finished all four, So we finished Vader, Showgun, Rampage and Lioda,
like just just that singular year.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
And those are like, those are two UFC champions in
showgun in rampings.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
And at that point, right, so a showgun at that
point is a total legend. Uh, Rampage at that point
is a legend. And so was Macheetah. I mean like, yeah, yeah,
he was a beast at that time. Right, So you're
talking about three guys who were totally amazing, and so
I think even that eleven through seventeen is kind of
if you just think about just that, that could be

(15:42):
like the best of all time. But then I don't know,
I feel like he is I don't say tainting his legacy,
but it's like.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
I don't know, I'm being intellectually honest.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
But that's to you the sports, not the general fan
who literally only cares about wins and losses.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Right now, to Kansas City Chiefs have not lost a.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Football game, right so people talk about that they've played
really bad. They haven't played great, so they may be
better down the line, but right now they're undefeated, and
that's all people talk about is how the Chiefs are undefeated.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
They don't think about all the other stuff.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
And I feel like if David Taylor got beat at
the World Championships, he wasn't gonna be soja Live.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
He wasn't prepared to be Sojlive.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
But we believed that he could, and we ignored everything building,
the training, the head coach, all that. You can't ignore
the other stuff, and that's what happens. That's what happens
in sports. And right now, John Jones is smart and
he goes, I ain't gotta fight this dude. If somebody
else beats him, he can go back and go, well,
you guys all act like Tom Aspunol was this great
threat to me and he got beat by so and so.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
That I mean, you know, you know who else does
that a lot? Dana?

Speaker 4 (16:46):
Dana will sign I mean he this to me to
a certain extent, but sign someone who doesn't really enjoy
past their prime, right and then say, oh, they were
never that good anyways.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
I mean that that is that's a prime data.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
So when Vader started losing, when he was like this
dude never was that good.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Yeah, we all kind of do that a little bit
in sports.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Ben, last thing, last thing before we move on from
this topic, So John had this idea and I saw
it just yesterday on AH I think it was mm
A Junkie or this morning I got a think from
mm A Junkie Instagram, it said John said, uh, he said,
how cool would it be if Alex Pereira and I

(17:30):
fight for the BMF championship? Fighting him for the BMF
belt would be really cool. We both have two belts
and two weight classes. The night we fought, we'd both
be fighting for our third belt, which would be the BMF.
How cool would that be to fight Alex Perrera for

(17:52):
a title? He said, He'd vacated the heavy championship for.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Of course you would.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
This makes me feel God, make me feel like I'm
doing a shit on John sayship. And you know, I said, like,
I mean, I don't agree with everything John's ever said
or done, obviously, but I generally think he's a great.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Fighter, possibly great of all time. But this is Shenanigans. Now.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
Alex could fight for the BMF because he fights all
the time, right, This guy fights like once every three months.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
John has only fought one time in the last five.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
Years, maybe two one, we thought Cyrill and then it's been.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Fought twice in five years twice in five years.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
No, yeah, yeah, he.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
Fought uh February twenty twenty, and then he fought in
shro Gone. So that is not a BMA BMF thing, right.
So the BMF when it was put in was like,
unfortunately these guys who love to fight, but weren't quite
good enough to win a real title.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
So that was why they made the BMF, but not
the bmfor.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
Is fought by a championship caliber.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Fighters, correct, but neither of them held the belt at
that time. They didn't hold a belt at the time.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
So John is suggesting that they give up two belts
to fight each other for the BMF. Has the BMF
now become more valuable than a world championship?

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Well?

Speaker 4 (19:06):
Just uh, I mean, I think John is just using
it as a ploy to not fight him Asmaal's how
it seems to me.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
God, I hate that I have to say this. People
are evening mad at me, but whatever, but.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
Yeah, that's what it seems to me. It seems to
me that that is the whole premise here. Just fight
freaking Tom asmall, let us know who the best is
and then yeah, whatever.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
But you actually believe that he just does not want
to fight this guy.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Do you think the.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Threat is that real? When you watch us?

Speaker 4 (19:30):
That's the only thing that makes sense. Make it makes
something else makes sense to me.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
I don't know how to make it. I don't know
how to make it. That's what I'm saying. I can't
make I can't make it make sense. I mean, I
don't know how to make it make sense if you're
fighting why.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
I just don't understand why he's doing this. I just
to me, it's just I'm like, it has to be him,
just Trotland. It has to be him, just Trotlin. I
can't imagine.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
He's not scared. Man, there's no other logic.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
He's not scared because he's not. I hate when people
but so scared.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
Could be a few things right this up Scared could
be fear of losing the zero, because that's the thing
that's most.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
Important to him.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
Yeah, even if so, even if it is so, I
put him myself into John Jones mind to him, you know,
maybe steep A, he's got a twenty percent chance of losing,
and against Alex he's got a ten percent chance of losing.
Even if he has in his own mind maybe a
thirty percent chance of losing his aspenall that is still
a greater threat than the other things.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
You're right, yeah, right, yeah, you're right.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
God man, I'm going there this weekend. I can't waste
for me a great five. I think when those guys
hit that cur you.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Get to hang out with Trump.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
He usually comes and says hi to me and talks
to me every time.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
What are you talking about golf?

Speaker 2 (20:39):
You know? So my mom or so my mom my
mom before she passed, God bless us, sol sweet Audrey.
She uh, I always turned to one of those like
black people whenever I talk about my mama.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Ah, I got into church somewhere. Listen.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
She hated Trump talk, She hated Trump, and she was
like just the Democrat bro dude.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
When she saw him come up to me at the
UFC event, what you're doing with that is? She called him.
I swear to God, yeah what you do?

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Because he's a felon and he got shot at.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
I have no idea why she.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Well because see so like now black people will say
that and the N words, the term of endearment, what's
up my mom and them when they were saying she
was older. So when they said it, it was a
very derogatory thing. So she was called him very, very
ugly when she saw him come up to me at
the UFC event. It's funny, but he's always he's always
really cool. He told me I have a open invitation

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Speaker 1 (21:40):
In golf. I can't beat him. He's too good.

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Speaker 1 (23:31):
Speaking of trolls.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Right at times, people could say that the next president
will troll people because he sold direct You know.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
It's a troll.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Jake Paul who is fighting Mike Tyson on Friday Night? Bro,
Mike Tyson is jacked. I don't care. I don't care
that he's fifty eight. I don't care.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Do you believe they're really gonna let Mike Tyson fight
this kid?

Speaker 1 (23:59):
Like?

Speaker 3 (23:59):
Fight him?

Speaker 2 (24:00):
I heard him.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
I may seem happening.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
Doesn't it feel like?

Speaker 4 (24:03):
You know?

Speaker 1 (24:03):
I already gave you my take. I think Jake's gonna win.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
But Bro, do you feel but do you I thought
the whole time this was some sort of exhibition.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
I thought it was like an exhibition. Yeah, it doesn't
feel like that anymore.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
It feels like I think they're gonna fight. I think
Jake's gonna win. You think Jakes gonna beat Mike Tyson?

Speaker 4 (24:21):
Yes, I gave you a big give me my logic
one more time, because it has been a while. Roy
Jones and Mike Tyson fought each other.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yes, it was. It was near a draw. It's very
very competitive even.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
But that was like that was that was really didn't
play fighting.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
A little bit.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
But but you could tell they were even you know,
like if they ramped up the intensity, it probably still
would have been even, right because one of them kicked
in the ones.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
But so Roy was talking about this recently.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Roy was talking about this, how he was worried so
he kept clinching, Mike, these are things that Roy Jones,
junior in the World champions fought his whole life.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
Olympian I was how to do Jake get to a
hold on But but then, if you remember correctly, Roy
Jones lost a boxing fight shortly after that to Anthony Pettis. Now,
Anthony Pettis is a highly skilled fighter, but at this
point in time he was past his prime and he's
he's just not a big guy. He's a five pounder.
He had fought at one forty five right for some

(25:20):
of his career, and he beat Roy Jones in a
boxing fight, and a legitimate boxing fight. It doesn't appear
that anyone was claiming anything other than it was legitimate.
You know, Jake is a solid two hundred pounder, like
I don't know, maybe he'd make one of a five.
I'm not sure, but it seems like he's even bigger
than that. So we're talking two, three, four weight, a
lot of weight classes apart as someone who's much younger.

(25:42):
And you know, we talked about Arison Silva. Now listen,
you may not get much credit for beating Ben ask
in a striking bout, but you should get a little
bit of credit for beating terrible and Silva.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah, yeah, you should.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
You should should get a loose box. Yeah, those box
tiring kinbox and Anderson kin box. Yes, but they're old small man.
Mike Tyson is not small.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Well, but probably Anthony Pettis. Think about that. I brought Anthony.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
He's way smaller than tyrone A Tyrants, smaller than than Anderson.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
Yeah, but I'm saying Mike Tyson is not small. He's
gonna be too.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Or let's make a bet on this.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
I bet Michael how much we're going a bet? How
much you want to bet?

Speaker 4 (26:18):
You tell me listen, Okay, if if I win, you
have to buy a bitcoin, and then you're gonna thank
me for that long term, right, because I'm gonna do
good by you. And if if I wait, if I
win you my bitcoin, if you win.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
What do you want from me? I have to wear
a cow come and say Cowboys shirt. Okay, do that?

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Okay, you think about what you want for me, and
I will bet buy me a bitcoin. You have to
wear an Oklahoma state shirt for a month of shows
a month, a month.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
Of shows because a bitcoin is not cheap. How much
of my pet it's.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Gonna make you money? It's like, well down the line,
but how much?

Speaker 3 (26:58):
How much am I paying for a bit?

Speaker 1 (27:00):
I care about you long term and I watch you.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
I love that, and I love and I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
I'll buy a bitcoin anyways, but that's uh, that's the
one month of shows you were orange Okahmo State.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
Russell t shirt.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
So you need to send it to me because if
I will and if if Jake somehow wins, then uh,
after Tyson beats him, then I'll wear it for the
next show.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Hey.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Jake also said that if he beats Mike Tyson, he's
calling on Canelo Alvarez. That now, that to me makes
more sense because he likes to fight smaller guys.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
But well, we're not all right. No, Canelo fights.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
One seventy five and he's small at one seventy five.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
Okay, I'm gonna say one's not that small, but yeah,
if he if he's well, no.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Because Canelo is not a seventy five pound when he
when he lost, when he lost, yeah, he lost at
one seventy five because he was maxing out like.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
What he was trying to fight at?

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Got it? That's true.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
Did he fight a long time ago? Didn't he fight Floyd?
And Floyd's really small right.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
At one fifty four? Dang?

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Okay, Canelo at Canelo one fifty four and Jake said
he's gonna fight him.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
Well, so now Canelo is getting older because that that
Canelo Floyd. Maybe that was like when I was living
in Phoenix or something, So that's like fifteen years ago
or something.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
But he's still making thirty mili fight he is.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
So maybe maybe Jake has tried to wait till Canell
gets older because he knows it's not gonna happen immediately,
you know, you know, so maybe he's waiting until he
gets older, and then you know, Canel will be like
forty and j will be like twenty eight or something.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
I don't know, Yeah, you know, something I don't know.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
I mean, I mean the dude, I heard him, So
I don't know that. I just don't know that, you know.
I think he's doing good work. Right.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
He lost it.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
He lost to Tyson, Fury's brother. Yeah, the only true
boxer he's fought. Mike Tyson is a true box I
didn't believe that it was a real fight. Now, hey, bro,
I did a breakdown for Netflix on this fight.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Really, yes, it's like real. It's like a real fight.
I did a breakdown on the fight. They they sent
me stuff to watch on the fight.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
I swear to god, Ben, I did not believe that
they were gonna let Mike Tyson truly fight this kid.
They're letting Mike fight him, and Mike's gonna try to
hurt him. And if Mike's trying to hurt you, bro,
And it looks like Mike is like on the stuff.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
He looks huge, like he's on this stuff.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
So let me ask you a question.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
How many years does that take off of Mike Tyson
if he's like on the good stuff.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
My pine makes it feel a little bit better.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
Five take off thirteen years?

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Maybe potentially forty five year old Mike Tyson's beating Jake
Paul every day.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Of the week.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Well, when did I stop fighting?

Speaker 2 (29:40):
I guess not faring competitive fights is like two thousand
and two.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Oh that's a long time.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
You're mad about Steve a. It was four years.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
But this is like a fun thing.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
It's not fun they're fighting.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Well, it's kind of fun. It's kind of a sideshow.
It's not like for the it's not like we're not
like fighting for the WCD before they give a title
for that.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
I want a belt.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Could you imagine if I want a belt on the line,
a beautiful belt to the person that wins brow.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
The belt some say the most beautiful belt.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Would it be satisfying for you if Mike just like
starches this dude, or do you hold anything bad towards
Jake Paul at all?

Speaker 4 (30:15):
No? I kind of let it go, And honestly, it
kind of makes me look better the better he does.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
And I'm like, look, I.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
Told you guys, he wasn't terrible, Like, yeah, you know,
I never pretended to be a good boxer. I just
I was hoping he was gonna suck, and now he's
actually like decent.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
You know, he's fighting Mike Tyson, So.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah, yeah, he's not a bad boxer, not much better
than boy. This is a big fight weekend. Michael Chandler's
back fights against Charles OLIVERA. Chandler said he's going to
knock him out again. He said the first time he's
going to knock him out. He almost did. Said he
go knock himut again. I talked to Mike yesterday, which
was really good. I like Mike, I like Chandler. Man,
we're kind of hard on Chandler too much. He don't

(30:52):
take he takes no offense to it.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
No, we weren't hard on him. We were fair fair at.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Times with friends, you have to be hard even while
being fair.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
Because he never got to McGregor fight, so we were
we were right.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
Hey, I think that if he I actually think if
he loses this weekend, it puts him closer to the
McGregor fight. Ah, if he looks too good. If he
looks too good, Connor's being like nah.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
Maybe winsa gives him a perfect call out opportunity.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Obviously it gives him a call out opportunity. But if
he looks too good. The only reason McGregor was gonna
fight him because he looks like he might be a
guy he can beat.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yeah, uh.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yeah, so Luis said, when we started this podcast, you
knew that Chandler and McGregor weren't fighting.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
No, You're like, no, stra damas. I mean, that was well.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
I think I think at the beginning I just said
I remember because this is how long ago it was.
I said, they're not going to fight in twenty twenty three,
and you know, we're almost.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
A twenty twenty five at this point.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
Yeah, we're almost.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
You thought that was crazy, and then they're The longer Dragdon,
the more evident. It became to me that that Connor
McGregor does not want to fight anybody.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
You're so h flarious, man.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Did you see my boy Cody Merrow last weekend won
the Michigan State Open. He did win the Michigan He
did good, and I was probably I was probably, hey, dude,
for the first time, I've got four kids starting in
D one.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
Right now, We've got four D one starters.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Cody Gotte, who else you got so.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Dante Jayden Gomez at Arkansas, Little Rock, Henry Porter at Indiana,
and Victor Hacito at Oregon State five.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Cody's start doesn't.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Start, No, Cody, Cody isn't going to be wrestling.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
But then like in a couple of years, we'll have
the core test wins and Daniels paid a, Moses Mendoza
all those guys. So you be cause you have what
twenty Division one starters right now?

Speaker 1 (32:40):
I have the look. I think we had eighteen last year.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Eighteen d one kids at NCAA Tournament's no, no.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
We had.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
We had eight or nine qualifiers, but that were in
starting lineups going into state conferences.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
That's so wild.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Eighteen kids, That's nuts, all right? Bro Uh, Mike Tyson
said one weekend. Tyson's side by side from his last fight. Okay, hey,
he got a picture.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Look at that picture and stronger. He's here to look
at the picture before we go.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Mike Tyson in the picture today and Mike Tyson versus
Roy Jones Jr. No about he two thousand and five
is when he fought last twenty twenty four. Mike Tyson
today looks better, Ben, he looks better today than he
did back then.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Jam extra medicine. But I bet it's legal. I bet
they're not testing.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
I'm about to get my pay. You're gonna have that
orange shirt on you. Look, you won't look good at
orange been have a great weekend. Man, guys, we been asking.
I'm Daniel Cormier. It's that episode of Funking the Champ.
Until next time, peace,
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