September 12, 2024 • 40 mins
Colin tells you why Justin Herbert and Lamar Jackson are the 2 most UNDERRATED quarterbacks in the NFL right now.
He discusses Tua Tagovailoa and the Dolphins as they prepare to take on the Bills and why this game is more than just another regular match up
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Here we go. It is a Thursday. Bill's Dolphins Tonight,
Greg Co selling one hour live in LA. It's The
Herd wherever you may be and however you may be listening.
Thanks for making us part of your day. Our first
full big week NFL. This is week two of the league.
It feels like a little bit our first big full
week back Labor Day a couple of weeks ago. Jamac
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I just saw the day twenty. The NFL averaged twenty
one million viewers per game for the opening week. It's
the highest done record.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Wonderful. That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah, years ago people were protesting it because of toln Kaepernick.
Apparently they've come back.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Look you doing politics two days in a row.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Wee, that's not politics, that's Colin Kaepernick. So they're blowing
through records. Everybody's back everybody loves it. It's been such
a popular league that you know, I can remember NBA
guys have been making money and shoes and endorsements forever,
and now NFL guys are all over commercials. Travis Kelsey's
on everything, but quarterback remains the glamour position in easily
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the most popular sport in America. You can be an
average quarterback to below average. If you're athletic, like justin fields,
you still have fans. Most quarterbacks actually get more publicity
outside of the mahomes than they're probably deserving of. I
was thinking about this this morning. There's only two quarterbacks
in this league, twenty one million viewers per game, easily
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the most popular sport in the Amyriica. It is separated
from everything else. It is the English Premier League in
the UK, It's separated from all the other sports. They're tennis,
their cricket. It's not close. There's only two quarterbacks I
would say that are underrated. The first and he won't
be by the end of the year, is Justin Herbert
as a rookie with a bad line, a bad defense,
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and an overwhelmed coach. Thirty one touchdowns, ten picks and
a passer rating of ninety eight. It was very Andrew Luck.
They didn't have much around him, the coach wasn't right,
the O line was bad. He could only win by
a shootout. Five rushing touchdowns, sixty seven percent completion percentage,
thirty one touchdowns, ten picks, ninety eight passer rating. It
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was very Andrew Luck. A shaky protection. Bryce Young can't play,
shaky protection, bad up front, Zach Wilson's a disaster. Caleb
Williams is overwhelmed. Justin Herbert's first game goes to overtime
with Patrick Mahomes. His first game, he was fifth in
passing yards that year. I looked it up this morning,
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fifth in passing yards. He was ahead of Aaron Rodgers
and Matt Stafford. Justin Herbert is a rookie, so he's underrated,
and a lot of it is he He hadn't have
the support until Jim Harbaugh and now he's got two
great tackles. The other quarterback that I truly believe is
underrated and I cannot, for the life of me figure
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it out, is Lamar Jackson. So he's twenty and one
against the NFC, meaning if you don't face him regularly,
he's even better than Mahomes. If you don't face him regularly,
there's nothing in the league like him. You can't prepare
for him. Good teams. Last year Detroit got blown out
by him. San Francisco nobody knows what to do with him.
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San Francisco controlled Aaron Rodgers. San Francisco against Lamar, they
don't know what to do with him. Detroit couldn't figure
him out. Lamar Jackson is one in five against Patrick Mahomes,
who nobody beats. And that's my guess is because he
can't beat the King. People don't think he's good. MVP
Fle's first year as a starter. He's good in division,
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good against his rivals, toughest division in football sixteen and seven.
But outside of Baltimore and NFL locker rooms, players love him.
He didn't get any respect. I mean, good, God, folks.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
C J.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Stroude really good. He is already universally accepted and loved.
He's ten and six or eleven and six?
Speaker 5 (04:31):
What is he?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
I mean, mccollin, he's a runner. You guys love Cam Newton.
Cam Newton never had back to back winning seasons. People
defended Cam Newton until the day you retired. Michael Vick
was loved. People loved watching Michael Vick. People defended Michael Vick,
don't they don't With Lamar Jackson, well, he's not very
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good in the pocket. I looked that up this morning.
As a pocket passer last year one oh two passer rating. Come,
I flitted sixty eight and a half percent of his throws.
That's right up there with Matt Stafford. He's pretty good
in the pocket. So I can't explain it. You defended
Cam Newton. C J. Stroud's already baked in. I mean,
we love burrow By about his fourth start. Kyler Murray
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was accepted by many until the video game stories came out.
But Justin Herbert and Lamar Jackson are doing things that
are virtually impossible in the NFL. They're underrated at the
glamour position. So speaking of quarterbacks, tonight is really interesting
because it's Tua, who's a good player, against Josh Allen,
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who's a great player, And it really does show not
all games are the same. Now we know the Super
Bowl is bigger than regular season games, but even in
the regular season, it shows you the power of division
rivalry games. Buffalo and Miami that's a rivalry. The cold weather,
the warmest weather, the coldest weather, the warmest weather northern
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down by the Keys. So Tua against the Bills has
been bad. One in six passer rating. That's like t
bo Ish seventy seven. And it shows you the power
of rivals. Jim Harball was winning ten games a year
at Michigan, but he couldn't meet Ohio State and literally
media people irresponsibly, in my opinion, media people were like,
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get him out of Michigan, can't coach. He'd won everywhere
San Diego, forty nine ers, Stanford, he was winning at Michigan.
He could not beat Ohio State and people, journalists lost
their mind. Ryan Day now has the highest winning percentage
in college football. He can't beat Michigan and people are
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all over him. Jared Goff with Sean McVay was forty
two and twenty as a starter and got to a
Super Bowl. But do you know why Sean McVay bailed
on him? You remember that game, don't you? Up North?
He couldn't beat the Niners, and McVeigh and Shanahan have
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a very intense rivalry. He just couldn't beat the Niners.
He was forty two and twenty, he'd outdueled Mahomes on
a Monday night football game. He could go toe to
toe with anybody. Forty two and twenty Super Bowl, couldn't
beat his ridal. So the Tua's issue and why this
is a big game tonight for two. I know it's
Week two, but it's a big game. Not only could
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he not beat Buffalo, he's bad against Buffalo, and Josh
Allen is unbelievable against Miami. So when you juxtaposed the
two on the same game, one sideline one the other,
Josh Allen looks bigger than ever and to a look smaller.
And as a head coach, you have to beat your rival.
Go back to the Harball early days. It was insane
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watching the media bail on Harball, and then what happened
last year made this all worse and tonight so important
for Tua. Do you remember last year it was the
final game, which is Week eighteen, two is at home,
division title on the line. In the second half, Tua
got five possessions with that receiving core in that coach
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and those running backs zero points. Tua, who's already small
for a quarterback, looked even smaller A standalone game. Tonight
against Buffalo is not another game. I don't care that
he dropped seventy against Denver. I don't care that he
led the NFL in passing yards against MVP votes. He's
got to win tonight. A small guy that looks smaller
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every time he faces his division rival. And here's Tua.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
When you know that another team has beaten you so often,
has had so much success, does that you know you?
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Is it something you think about as you prep for
that team, knowing the success they've.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Had, Well, that's going to be what's written out there.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
Until we do something about that, that's going to be
the narrative that we can't beat the Bills. And until
we do beat them, and we beat them consistently, like,
none of that's going to change.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I can't wait for tonight. I do like Miami to win.
I'm going against recent trending in history. I'm gonna take
Miami to win. Twenty seven to twenty could also turn
the hat around. That would probably help a little. That's
worth half a point in my opinion, but I'm not
going to get into it. It's is only Thursday, it's
only week two. I'm not going to get into it.
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I do think that's worth at least half a point,
but no big deal. So it's interesting. It's too early
in the season. Would you agree, j Mac to have
a definitive opinion on almost anything, but but you can
see red flags after the first week, you can see
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red flags.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yeah, I would agree with that.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
I mean, it's tough to say, come out, Daniel Jones
is the worst quarterback and you can't say something like that.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
But we have four years of data, right or five
years maybe on.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Jim is there. I've got a red flag based on
what I've seen and what I heard last night about
Joe Burrow, No about Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Oh so you loaded loading up on the Texans this week.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I just again, it's not a definitive opinion, little red flag,
just something to worry about. Anybody listening to my show
that owns a business, small business, you don't have a
definitive opinion on an employee. But if you see a
couple of things happen two or three times in a
row over the course of two or three months, it's
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a little bit of a red flag. The employee maybe
can't handle that. Not good around this person. Not good
on those assignments. A little red flag way is small.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Well, remember his opener was buried at one o'clock.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
With like a billion games, He's going to be on
an island game now if he has a sixteen for
day ninety.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Three yards and it's like this guy is terrible.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, yeah, top of next hour, Greg Cosel.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
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Great rates none of the Bowl. So this is not
good news. Bears who were out played by Tennessee. But
due to Will Levis an egregious interception, the Bears beat Tennessee.
They were outplayed, totally outplayed. I watched every snap, totally outplayed.
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That's bigger than you think. And I'll tell you why.
So Rama Dunzey and Keenan Allen didn't practice yesterday. Not great.
A Dunzee has a sprain MCL, not torn sprained. So
I'll say this again and I said this, everybody is
our witness. I think bow Nicks is going to have
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the best rookie season of all the quarterbacks, why because
Caleb has a defensive coach. Jayden Daniels has a defensive
Drake May has a defensive coach. JJ McCarthy's not going
to play, he's injured rehabbing, and Michael Pennix, if he
does play, I think he will eventually as a defensive coach.
Bo Nicks has an offensive coach and a brilliant one,
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And it matters for young quarterbacks in this league. No
worth doing it, not worth doing a segment. You know it,
I know it, we all know it. It mattered. Jared Goff,
Jeff Fisher, Jared GoF, Sean McVay. It helped. Bo Nicks
is also arguably the most accurate of all these quarterbacks,
with a brilliant offensive coach. And Sean Payton has relayed
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to me, kid can read a defense cognitively. He can
read a defense. So he's going to be the best
most productive rookie quarterback. Have no idea year two, three, four, five, six,
But this year, and I know it's only week two,
this is a little bit of a red flag out
of Chicago. Caleb Williams has taken seventy seven total snaps
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I am counting preseason, when you face virtually no starters,
no starters and certainly no exotic blitz packages. Seventy seven
total snaps preseason, first game, forty nine passes, he's completed
twenty four forty nine percent completion percentage, And yeah, that's
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not good. Passer rating at sixty five not good. I
was also told last night, had in the conversation with
somebody that a practice before the Tennessee game pretty rough,
like the Friday practices. That's the easy stuff. Repetition, pretty rough,
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ball on the ground a lot. So my concern this
is not a definitive statement. It's a little bit of
a red flag. And this is what I worried about
going into Chicago. Who's there to fix it? I can
remember Mahomes didn't even have to play until week seventeen
first year, but even the year two, as he was flourishing,
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he'd get off into the weeds mechanically, and he pulled
it back. If bo Nick struggles, Sean Payton pulls it back,
McVeigh pulls golf back, Shanahan pulls brought pretty in. Who
in Chicago, Shane Waldron, I don't know. So you start
looking at that schedule, beating Tennessee despite the fact at
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home they were outplayed and overwhelmed offensively overwhelmed. They're not
beating Houston, Indy or the Rams. My prediction right now,
three game losing streak and by Halloween, Matt Eberflu's head
coach is dead, coach walking. He's in big trouble. So
I do not think it's too early to see red flags.
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Anybody watching or listening to this show. That's what coaches do.
You don't think Kaitlin de board Alabama. You don't think
sark is not looking at his team and going, you
know what, We're not very good at our second corner
and we got a team coming up Oklahoma in a
few weeks. That's what coaches do. It's what CEOs do.
You're looking for issues before they become controversies in major flaws.
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It's a little bit of a red flag. I mean,
we don't think Tennessee's elite. You're at home, you have
excellent weapons, They've got Chicago's got good weapons. This is
top eight nine weapon packages in the league. Tight end
running back, I think their tackles are good. Just saying
forty nine percent, I'm counting all the snaps. When you
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add that to some of his struggles completing balls in
USC last year, and then you watch Miller Moss come in,
who's this other quarterback under Lincoln Riley and literally the
ball never hits the ground unless it's dropped. It's just stuff.
Here's Caleb about adjusting to the NFL.
Speaker 8 (15:51):
I was looking at the NFL this past weekend, and
I'm looking at all the all the teams and things
like that, and realize and that, like I've said in
many other interviews, that you know, the job is hard.
NFL is hard. You know that, and the defense is
gonna make it tough on you.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
So now that's what they're gonna do.
Speaker 8 (16:12):
Or weekend and week out.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Beating Tennessee shouldn't have but beating Tennessee was huge. Go
look at that schedule. Houston Indie almost beat Houston road games,
and then the Rams McVeigh Stafford who went toe to
toe and they'll be healthy by then. By the way,
then you start watching the Rams in week four, that
old line will be healthy again. Just thoughts, not not
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definitive statements, a little bit of a red flag. The
phone call I got the preseason stuff fort looked overwhelmed,
not getting the ball room, and Dunze got one look
just stuff Jmack with the news.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
No, no, this is the Herdline news.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Matt Aberfleus, Huh interesting. I hadn't that.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
That's a big bit of a leap for me.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I think they could beat the Colts next week. But
you could be honest something you do. It's keenan Allen injury.
I just had to adjust my fantasy lineup.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Thanks for the heads up on that one.
Speaker 9 (17:10):
You bet.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
I'm here to do that for you, and that I
could help.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
I didn't know it was there.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Let's get started with Matt Lafleur Colin again.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
I'm going to go back to this, is it gamesmanship
or could Jordan Love actually play? Lafleur has not ruled
out Jordan Love for week two. After that mcl sprain.
You know the Twitter doctors were saying it's a three
to six week injury. No, Lafleur has doubled down on
not ruling out Love just yet.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
You left the dooralk for Jordan on one day, set
door anymore of us. Peter said that.
Speaker 10 (17:38):
I'd say it's pretty open. He's doing a nice job.
He's spending a lot of time in the in the
training room. Our guys have done a great job with him.
Flee and Nate and all our athletic trainers are strength staff.
But at the same time, like I told you, guys,
he's got to be cleared. We got to feel like
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he can protect himself and he's got to be confident
enough to go out there and do that. Until that happens,
and that's that's We're not even gonna think about that.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Boy.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
This feels like a stay away game because even if
he does play j Mack, he hasn't practiced. And with
the young receivers, timing is still a thing, right. These
aren't guys who have played together nine years. He just
started last year for the first time. These receivers are
like not even halfway to their first their second contract
is that kids. So it's like, even if he plays.
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And I'm telling you two teams lost last weekend that
I think are really good three teams, the Packers, the Colts.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
And the Rams.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Those are good football teams. The Colts, I don't know
if the culture that good.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
I fired on the Packers plus three last night.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
I think.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
They're going to show up, Lafleur will be ready.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Here's my thing.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Why would you force Jordan Love to play in a
week two game when you just paid him and you
risked like.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
The this Detroit one, Minnesota one.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
It's one game. It's a seventeen game season.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Man, how you go oh and two? So what the
staff said this this morning, there's like you go oh
and too? It goes down to like eight percent to
make the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Since twenty nineteen, forty one teams started oh and two.
It's only five years.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Okay, So forty one teams have started oh and two
in the last five years? How many many the playoffs? Two?
Speaker 4 (19:26):
So what?
Speaker 9 (19:27):
But what what are you maam?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Then the bucks?
Speaker 4 (19:30):
I mean we saw a team with like a five
game losing streak last year make the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
I think the stuff.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
If I said to you, when the kids start reading,
like when? When when do the kids get better?
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Five?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Okay? If I said to you, I forgot kids that
can't read by six years old, forty one kids at
a school that that couldn't read by six years old,
only two ended up going to college. Wouldn't you be alarmed?
That's a small time.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
It's such a small sample.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Sid Why I'm just saying. I'm just saying, you're forty
one times I've seen something twice it's worked.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
I mean it's fair.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
So you you're willing to rush your what is he
a fifty five million dollars quarterback? You want to just
rush him out there to get back in there so
we can win a game against the Colts in week two.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Play the long game, Colin being a little short sighted here,
my friend.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
A lot of you people into the long game. All
life is not a four to oh one k. Sometimes
you got to pull some of those funds out.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Okay, day Trader, I hear you. Next up, let's go
to Daniel Jones and the New York Giants.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Daniel Jones, Man, this guy's under fire. He was getting
booed off the field in like the third quarter. It
was it was bad yesterday. Jones took to the podium
and said he understands fans are upset and frustrated with
how the team has played, but he only cares about
the organization's opinion.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
I'm concerned about the people in this building. And you know,
I think I got plenty of help, plenty of good coaching.
Plenty of good teammates to work with here. That's what
I'm focused on. I've got, you know, people I trust
to have relationships with, who who can help me out.
But in terms of other people and what they have
to say or what they think from their perspective and
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what their observations are, is really not very important to me.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
I saw a piece of video last several days of
New York fans as he was walking.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yeah, that was bad.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
It was really ugly. It's like people are just jerks,
they're losers.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
The game was over in the third quarter, basically you
still hung around in the parking lot crushing beers. So
you could yell stuff at Daniel Jones about how much
he stinks. I know, like assess your life, like folks come.
I know that's a little harsh, Like he's not good.
We could say that fine, but to like stay afterwards
as he's walking to his car to heckle him. Is
he a starter in this league next year?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
No, No, he's not, and I Will Levis is not.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Mark Sanchez was trying to tell me Daniel Jones could
be a starter somewhere. He's like, look at Sam Darnold,
He's starting. Why can't Hel Jones?
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Sam Darnold's a much better quarterback.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
I agree, I think it's over for Jones as a starter.
Final story is, oh, look the Jets.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Hassan Reddick, the guy who's holding out since the trade,
hasn't practiced or played for the Jets.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
He wants big money.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
The Jets could obviously use him on the defensive line
as they could not get to brock Perty. In the opener,
Robert Sala says, there's no indication that Hassan radicals show
up anytime soon.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
The zero any side of ready today?
Speaker 9 (22:29):
Uh not that I'm aware from the past games standpoint.
Like I said, I thought San Francisco did a really
nice job getting rid of the ball. We stacked them
a couple of times. But look, we're always gonna want
our one rowing in the building.
Speaker 11 (22:42):
It is what it is.
Speaker 9 (22:43):
But you know, whatever they do gets done, it gets done.
Speaker 8 (22:51):
Not great.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Luckily they won't need him against Will Levis your guy,
but like big picture, it would be nice to have
a pass rush are in there.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
They missed Bryce Hoff obviously of course, la situational guy. Reddick.
Speaker 12 (23:06):
I mean, you just.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
I don't know, Colin, Like if you're the GF. It's
not your money, it's the owner's money.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Just just pay the guy, because guess what if the
Jets go six and ten or say sorry, six to eleven.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Do you think there are jobs anywhere? Do you think
the Niners, Eagles and Rams would pay us on Redick?
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Yes, they're in different circumstances. You're in the super Bowl
every other year.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
I mean, look at the Niners roster. They're paying everybody
except rock Pretty. People say, well, they're not paying brock Pretty.
They're paying everybody else.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
The Jets are not in that class.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
They're more in the Cleveland Browns class. That's right where
they're desperate and they need to do whatever. Hey, let's
pay just John Watson hope for the best. Let's pay
us on Reddick. Do you know what the GM and
sala are going to be gone fired?
Speaker 3 (23:44):
See ya if the season doesn't work out?
Speaker 1 (23:47):
A fair question. If it didn't work out, if they
ended up being eight and nine with or without Redick,
either way he comes back, he's not in great shape.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Is a good in I saw keeping his job? I
think I don't.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I don't think he is. I think i'd keep the GM. Okay,
all right, I'm asking I'm asking the question. I don't
know that j Maack with the news.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping that the
herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Speaking of that, I was, uh, there was an Aaron
Rodgers bite yesterday. He is good content. I mean, I'm
not gonna he's he's very good content. So he was,
you know, they're on and one, but you know they
looked ugly at O and one had one legitimate drive.
Uh couldn't stop anybody there. Owen One's are not the same.
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The Rams are on one. They looked mostly great. I
thought Indianapolis is on and one. No, no, no, Houston's good.
Uh you know, uh that's different than Tennessee being on
one and now facing the Jets. That's ugly. So Aaron
Rodgers met with a media and talked about everybody freaking
out after losing ugly to San Francisco.
Speaker 12 (24:57):
I mean, I think we always got to stay relaxed.
It's a it's a long season. I think at times
people think the season is like you're out in the
prairie or the desert and you're wandering around trying to
find water. But it's more like a nice slow Bolero,
you know where we're just swaying with the music and
reacting to whatever comes through comes to us and through us,
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and just trying to not get too high with the
eyes or too low with the lows.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
That sounds great. Relax, everybody, stay calm. I'm the leader here.
But if they lose to Tennessee and it's zero and two,
this puppy's unraveling. Okay, and Aaron can say whatever he wants.
He can be like Leslie Nielsen or or of the
Animal House scene. Everybody stay calm. Nothing to see here. Yeah,
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it's New York. It's the Jets, And staying calm is
much easier when things are aesthetically pretty, like, hey, they
lost in overtime to then in a shootout twenty four,
you know, twenty four to twenty one, losing a field
(26:08):
goal overtime, you'd be like, Okay, it's aesthetically looked apart.
This didn't And then it's New York and I think
this is what makes this lift so difficult for Aaron.
Losing cultures never stay home. Rams do rams have massive injuries,
massive injuries. They could go oh to Tow and lose
(26:29):
to Arizona. It won't be man overboard. Philadelphia goes into
losing streak, it's not man overboard. I mean the Cleveland
Browns and the Jets could walk through a puddle and
think they're drowning. That's the reality of poorly run franchises.
I mean, remember this week when Robert Salah said this
about the oh to one start.
Speaker 9 (26:52):
Unfortunately it does because I think I know we're going
to get the defense fixed, that that is not a problem.
Speaker 11 (26:59):
That's a problem.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
It's not a problem.
Speaker 9 (27:01):
And I know we're going to get a lot better
from week one to week two. We got a great
opportunity this week against Tennessee on a short.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Week again, Owen two, it's gonna look like Leslie Nielson.
Nothing to see here. Everybody be calm. I'm sorry, it's
not gonna be calm in New York. It's not okay.
And there was another graphic that I saw, a very
(27:31):
strange passing chart that I got to look at this
morning for our radio audience. I apologize. Look at that
passing chart. He basically didn't look right. Everything was left. Now,
Aaron can obviously read a defense. Obviously Aaron Rodgers has
(27:52):
a snaps. He's very cerebral. He can absolutely read a defense.
That's something you'd see from a rookie quarterback or an
overwhelmed quarterback. What does that passing chart tell you? It's
a very predictable, fairly simplistic passing game. You don't think
Tennessee's looking at that. I mean, look at that. That's
(28:13):
a that's a rookie passing chart. Short and to the left.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
So I put this on my Instagram yesterday and I
had one smart guy saying, what did he say? He's
afraid of his backside.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yes, he wants he does off line.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Yet right, he wants that's right, Aaron right now, and
this he's recoiling. Aaron wants to throw left only so
he can see out of the corner of his eye
the pass rush. So that's something else.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
So Achilles injury obviously you understand criticized some PTSD.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Is that's right, PTSD is right this. So Aaron is
telling you right now, I don't trust think about this.
He doesn't trust Nat Hackett.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Well, he's never taken a snap with the new offensive line,
didn't do one in the preseason, which I think did
a disservice to him. Like you come out and see
that passing chart. I'm gonna tell you right now, this
Tennessee matchup, Colin, you start to dig into it. If
they put Snead, the great guy they got from k C.
If they just have him Jim Garrett Wilson at the line.
What other Jets receiver scares you, Alan Wizard, Well, Mike Williams,
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the barely played the tight end is a non factor.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
So they're just gonna stack.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
The box against Breeze Hall. This just screams like low
scoring game and the Jets better come out on top. Okay,
some legit concerns here for the Jets.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yeah, I mean that when I saw that passing chart,
and again I apologize to a radio audience. Basically it
shows Aaron just went left. So you got multiple things here.
You have an OC he doesn't trust and wouldn't pay
attention to the I rolls at Alan Lazard only throwing left.
Doesn't trust the OC. This whole thing about stay calm
and I really do. I think I really like listening
(29:50):
to Aaron Rodgers. I love the book by Ian O'Connor.
I think the documentary on Netflix is gonna be fascinating.
I watch all the content. It's like people say, oh
I hate this show. I hate do you listen? That's
all that matters. I watch all the errand games. I
find him fascinating. He's very, very complex. But I think
it I twenty one pass attempts two to the right side. Okay,
that's telling you he's not comfortable looking away.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Yeah, And it's not like Patrick Certanz on the other
side of forty nine. Ers don't have a lockdown guy.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
So there's a lot of stuff here, and I think
it's very easy to say stay calm. What is when
Stan Kronk's your owner and mcveigh's your coach, and I
got Cooper Cup and Pooka Nakua, then it's easy to
stay calm and very easy. Hey, Christian McCaffrey's not playing.
The Niners are like, we're good. We got nine weapons
(30:37):
and the backup kids good and Shanahan and his father
are the great run first offensive minds of my life.
It's just it's staying calm in New York Jets complex.
It doesn't work that way. That's not what it is again,
the Browns. The Jets walk through a ploddle for their
(30:58):
first reaction is get a life for we're in trouble here.
They go zero and two. You and I know it's
our lead. It is our lead on Monday. Maybe I
should root for that. That's a good lead. Come on, No,
I want them to I do. I want them to win.
It's good for our business of the Jets. Are I
want the Jets to win.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Aaron Rodgers back on top.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
There's no one people think, oh, you're rooting for the
You know what? I root for star quarterbacks redemption. I
mean the Baker story in Tampa much smaller is a
great story. If Baker goes thirteen and four in that division,
it's a great story for us that that's.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Not happening, but yeah, it would be a wonderful story.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
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Speaker 1 (32:32):
Do you giggling a bottle? What's going on?
Speaker 4 (32:34):
I butchered this guy's name yesterday and they were just
telling me how to say it, and then I was
going over in my head how to say it.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
And I'm like, ah, Jason just screwed it up.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Damn. Top of the hour. By the way, I'm so
you know, we've been bringing Greg co Sell on my
show since I was at the other place, probably twelve
thirteen years and you know what, he's really good. Obviously
the TV audience can see how he breaks down stuff,
but I think you know, everybody now has a take.
Everybody He's got strong opinions, myself included. He didn't really
have one. He's not really he didn't predict games. He
(33:04):
just says, this is what the tape is showing. So
I always think if you play fantasy football or you're
a gambler, beyond just being entertained by it, I think
greg is such valuable consumption. And I'm looking at some
of the questions. The staff and I kind of go
over some questions, what do you want to do? I
(33:24):
see that Sam Darnold question. My god, I can't wait
to hear this listen. It would be nice, as America's
honesty broker if one person in the viewing or listening
audience ever supported me one time. On Sam Darnald, I understand,
I'm on an island. I'm like Tom Hanks and castaway.
I'm talking to a volleyball. I'm out here by myself.
(33:45):
I'm on an island going crazy. But you know what,
Eventually Tom Hanks ended up back in insurance and life
ended very, very nice. So I'm gonna be fine. But
I cannot wait because I could have just banged a
drum all week on Sam Donald. No, that's not who
I am. Reticent, quiet, understated. So I've been saying this
(34:08):
for years about the Pittsburgh Steelers. What's the standard? You're
still bragging about, Hey, we've never had a losing season
here the Pittsburgh Steelers. That's pathetic. That's what like most
of my life, the Browns, the Bengals. Now the Bengals
now have their act together mostly, But what is your standard?
(34:28):
And I was thinking about this. Christian McCaffrey did not
play in the opener, and Jay McK and I were
talking about this. In a seventeen game season, soon to
be eighteen games, the Niners are not going to play
just seventeen games. They're a playoff team. They're going to
play eighteen, nineteen, twenty twenty one. That's what they're going
to do. But what I like about the Niners is
big picture. They have a high standard. And so Kyle
(34:51):
Shanahan was talking recently on a San Francisco radio station
about just letting Christian McCaffrey watch the preseason and watch
we one.
Speaker 11 (35:01):
If it was a playoff game. You know, you made
it very clear to me he'd believed he could go.
But when you hear that type of stuff and it's
not a playoff game and it's Week one and especially
when you're dealing with the lower extremities like that. It
was a tough decision, but hearing all the words and
stuff and the long running made it easy.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
And I also think this with the forty nine ers.
There are only two teams in the league. We have
thirty two teams. There are two that have a standard,
which is win the Super Bowl or it's a failure.
Dallas would throw a parade if they could get to
the NFC Championship. Even Buffalo, if they got to a
(35:45):
Super Bowl, that would mean they beat Mahomes. They'd be satisfied.
They want to win the Super Bowl. But if they
lost a wild shootout with the Niners, they beat Mahomes
in Burrow and Lamar Jackson, it'd be a good year
in Buffalo with a lot of promise going forward. What
about Baltimore, Colin, you're telling me if Lamar Jackson wins
(36:05):
two or three playoff games and gets to the super Bowl,
basically they know the extension they gave him, it's worth it.
He can win playoff games, and that also means he
probably beats Mahomes and Josh Allen. They would be okay
getting to a super Bowl. Green Bay I mean, I
think they're ahead of schedule. It's like the youngest team
in the league. The youngest team in the league Detroit,
(36:27):
they've never been to a super Bowl. The other think Detroit.
I mean, if Detroit goes to a super Bowl loses
in overtime, what do you think their year is lost?
Michigan just won a Natty in college football. The Lions
a year and a half later get to a super Bowl.
I think they'd be okay, even successful. Philadelphia, what about Philadelphia?
Think about Nick Sirianni's fighting first job. They paid Jalen Hurts,
(36:48):
who's been great for one year under Shane Steikan who's
now the Colts coach. If Philadelphia gets to a super
Bowl and loses a shootout to Josh Allen or Burrow
or they know Nick Sirianni's he probably gets an extension
because right now they don't know if Sirianni is the guy.
They know Shane Steichen and Sirianni were a great tandem.
They don't know if he's a guy. His story's coming out.
(37:09):
He didn't get along with Jalen Hurts. So Texans get
to a super Bowl, just get there, come on there,
like three years ahead a schedule. So to me, Christian McCaffrey,
the whole ball game because it's the Niners, is will
he be ready to play February ninth in New Orleans.
Only two teams have that standard. San Francisco's been to
(37:31):
super Bowls, They've led Mahomes in the fourth quarter. That
that's not the end game. Shanahan's getting a little bit
of a rep that he has leads in big games
and loses him. Now, I think it's unfair. I think
he's brilliant, But that's the rep. If something happens over
and over and over, that's the rep. So it's that's
why you don't pay play Christian McCaffrey, Chiefs Niners. Totally
(37:55):
different standard than the league, completely different. I know you're
staying in Philadelphia. We in philadelh Helfia. You don't know
if Sirianni's the guy he gets to a super Bowl
this year in a better NFC, he's the guy. Give
him an extension. The Week two NFL schedule, take a
look at it tonight. I don't know why I'm doing this.
(38:17):
I'm gonna take Miomi over Buffalo. It is a very
strange week too. It's got almost a college football feel
to it. A lot of six point favorites, a lot
of lobsided Gardner Minshew against Lamar Jackson, Justin Herbert against
Bryce Young, Trevor Lawrence against currently awful Deshaun Watson, Geno Smith,
(38:44):
a couple of Pro Bowls, nine wins against Jacoby Brissett,
Aaron Rodgers, Will Levice.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Hey, I just noticed the schedule quirk.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
So the Raiders played Jim Harbaugh last week in LA.
Now they go across the country to face John Harbaugh.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Wondering if the.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Harball brothers are going to chat on the phone about
week something, any tendencies.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
What Remember Jim Harball came on our show and when
they got JK. Dobbins, he called his brother and said,
you know, we need a running back. And his brother's like,
the dude can pluck.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Gus Edwards too, and U s.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
The Harball family, they lean on each other. That's a
big advantage. That's a good catch by you. Nice catch
by you. If if you look at that.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Really fair the Raiders.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
If you're looking around the league, it's like, how you
going to say the brothers back to back?
Speaker 1 (39:30):
So week one you get upset Cincinnati lost to New England.
Look at that board right now, look at the entire board.
There's gonna be an upset this week. Where's the upset?
So that there's going to be one, I'll go Malik Willis.
Malik Willis basically just trashing the guy one day.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
He can't play, He's not a pro.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
The more you look at the gate, I think laflour
Is going to scheme up some some stuff, short stuff.
I bet you Malik Willis doesn't throw one pass beyond
ten yards and just a run game everything. Play an indie.
Just I saw their top cornerback is gone. He's out
Brent's so their secondary was a good Last week, CJ
strugged nine for nine on third down. Tell me Malik
Willis can't game manages way to a victory.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Let me ask you this. If bow Nicks beats the Steelers,
is that.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
I like that one as well.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
But that's below three now, Steelers are sitting on three.
Now it's below three. I think Denver at home.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Yeah, yeah, I think bow Nick's beating the Steelers. That
doesn't really qualify as one of the great upsets of
our time.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Yeah, of our time.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Here we go. It is a Thursday. Bill's Dolphins Tonight,
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Herd wherever you may be and however you may be listening.
Thanks for making us part of your day. Our first
full big week NFL. This is week two of the league.
It feels like a little bit our first big full
week back Labor Day a couple of weeks ago. Jamac
(00:50):
I just saw the day twenty. The NFL averaged twenty
one million viewers per game for the opening week. It's
the highest done record.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Wonderful. That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah, years ago people were protesting it because of toln Kaepernick.
Apparently they've come back.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Look you doing politics two days in a row.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Wee, that's not politics, that's Colin Kaepernick. So they're blowing
through records. Everybody's back everybody loves it. It's been such
a popular league that you know, I can remember NBA
guys have been making money and shoes and endorsements forever,
and now NFL guys are all over commercials. Travis Kelsey's
on everything, but quarterback remains the glamour position in easily
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the most popular sport in America. You can be an
average quarterback to below average. If you're athletic, like justin fields,
you still have fans. Most quarterbacks actually get more publicity
outside of the mahomes than they're probably deserving of. I
was thinking about this this morning. There's only two quarterbacks
in this league, twenty one million viewers per game, easily
(01:58):
the most popular sport in the Amyriica. It is separated
from everything else. It is the English Premier League in
the UK, It's separated from all the other sports. They're tennis,
their cricket. It's not close. There's only two quarterbacks I
would say that are underrated. The first and he won't
be by the end of the year, is Justin Herbert
as a rookie with a bad line, a bad defense,
(02:20):
and an overwhelmed coach. Thirty one touchdowns, ten picks and
a passer rating of ninety eight. It was very Andrew Luck.
They didn't have much around him, the coach wasn't right,
the O line was bad. He could only win by
a shootout. Five rushing touchdowns, sixty seven percent completion percentage,
thirty one touchdowns, ten picks, ninety eight passer rating. It
(02:43):
was very Andrew Luck. A shaky protection. Bryce Young can't play,
shaky protection, bad up front, Zach Wilson's a disaster. Caleb
Williams is overwhelmed. Justin Herbert's first game goes to overtime
with Patrick Mahomes. His first game, he was fifth in
passing yards that year. I looked it up this morning,
(03:06):
fifth in passing yards. He was ahead of Aaron Rodgers
and Matt Stafford. Justin Herbert is a rookie, so he's underrated,
and a lot of it is he He hadn't have
the support until Jim Harbaugh and now he's got two
great tackles. The other quarterback that I truly believe is
underrated and I cannot, for the life of me figure
(03:26):
it out, is Lamar Jackson. So he's twenty and one
against the NFC, meaning if you don't face him regularly,
he's even better than Mahomes. If you don't face him regularly,
there's nothing in the league like him. You can't prepare
for him. Good teams. Last year Detroit got blown out
by him. San Francisco nobody knows what to do with him.
(03:49):
San Francisco controlled Aaron Rodgers. San Francisco against Lamar, they
don't know what to do with him. Detroit couldn't figure
him out. Lamar Jackson is one in five against Patrick Mahomes,
who nobody beats. And that's my guess is because he
can't beat the King. People don't think he's good. MVP
Fle's first year as a starter. He's good in division,
(04:11):
good against his rivals, toughest division in football sixteen and seven.
But outside of Baltimore and NFL locker rooms, players love him.
He didn't get any respect. I mean, good, God, folks.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
C J.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Stroude really good. He is already universally accepted and loved.
He's ten and six or eleven and six?
Speaker 5 (04:31):
What is he?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
I mean, mccollin, he's a runner. You guys love Cam Newton.
Cam Newton never had back to back winning seasons. People
defended Cam Newton until the day you retired. Michael Vick
was loved. People loved watching Michael Vick. People defended Michael Vick,
don't they don't With Lamar Jackson, well, he's not very
(04:53):
good in the pocket. I looked that up this morning.
As a pocket passer last year one oh two passer rating. Come,
I flitted sixty eight and a half percent of his throws.
That's right up there with Matt Stafford. He's pretty good
in the pocket. So I can't explain it. You defended
Cam Newton. C J. Stroud's already baked in. I mean,
we love burrow By about his fourth start. Kyler Murray
(05:15):
was accepted by many until the video game stories came out.
But Justin Herbert and Lamar Jackson are doing things that
are virtually impossible in the NFL. They're underrated at the
glamour position. So speaking of quarterbacks, tonight is really interesting
because it's Tua, who's a good player, against Josh Allen,
(05:36):
who's a great player, And it really does show not
all games are the same. Now we know the Super
Bowl is bigger than regular season games, but even in
the regular season, it shows you the power of division
rivalry games. Buffalo and Miami that's a rivalry. The cold weather,
the warmest weather, the coldest weather, the warmest weather northern
(06:00):
down by the Keys. So Tua against the Bills has
been bad. One in six passer rating. That's like t
bo Ish seventy seven. And it shows you the power
of rivals. Jim Harball was winning ten games a year
at Michigan, but he couldn't meet Ohio State and literally
media people irresponsibly, in my opinion, media people were like,
(06:23):
get him out of Michigan, can't coach. He'd won everywhere
San Diego, forty nine ers, Stanford, he was winning at Michigan.
He could not beat Ohio State and people, journalists lost
their mind. Ryan Day now has the highest winning percentage
in college football. He can't beat Michigan and people are
(06:43):
all over him. Jared Goff with Sean McVay was forty
two and twenty as a starter and got to a
Super Bowl. But do you know why Sean McVay bailed
on him? You remember that game, don't you? Up North?
He couldn't beat the Niners, and McVeigh and Shanahan have
(07:06):
a very intense rivalry. He just couldn't beat the Niners.
He was forty two and twenty, he'd outdueled Mahomes on
a Monday night football game. He could go toe to
toe with anybody. Forty two and twenty Super Bowl, couldn't
beat his ridal. So the Tua's issue and why this
is a big game tonight for two. I know it's
Week two, but it's a big game. Not only could
(07:26):
he not beat Buffalo, he's bad against Buffalo, and Josh
Allen is unbelievable against Miami. So when you juxtaposed the
two on the same game, one sideline one the other,
Josh Allen looks bigger than ever and to a look smaller.
And as a head coach, you have to beat your rival.
Go back to the Harball early days. It was insane
(07:47):
watching the media bail on Harball, and then what happened
last year made this all worse and tonight so important
for Tua. Do you remember last year it was the
final game, which is Week eighteen, two is at home,
division title on the line. In the second half, Tua
got five possessions with that receiving core in that coach
(08:09):
and those running backs zero points. Tua, who's already small
for a quarterback, looked even smaller A standalone game. Tonight
against Buffalo is not another game. I don't care that
he dropped seventy against Denver. I don't care that he
led the NFL in passing yards against MVP votes. He's
got to win tonight. A small guy that looks smaller
(08:31):
every time he faces his division rival. And here's Tua.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
When you know that another team has beaten you so often,
has had so much success, does that you know you?
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Is it something you think about as you prep for
that team, knowing the success they've.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Had, Well, that's going to be what's written out there.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
Until we do something about that, that's going to be
the narrative that we can't beat the Bills. And until
we do beat them, and we beat them consistently, like,
none of that's going to change.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I can't wait for tonight. I do like Miami to win.
I'm going against recent trending in history. I'm gonna take
Miami to win. Twenty seven to twenty could also turn
the hat around. That would probably help a little. That's
worth half a point in my opinion, but I'm not
going to get into it. It's is only Thursday, it's
only week two. I'm not going to get into it.
(09:20):
I do think that's worth at least half a point,
but no big deal. So it's interesting. It's too early
in the season. Would you agree, j Mac to have
a definitive opinion on almost anything, but but you can
see red flags after the first week, you can see
(09:43):
red flags.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yeah, I would agree with that.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
I mean, it's tough to say, come out, Daniel Jones
is the worst quarterback and you can't say something like that.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
But we have four years of data, right or five
years maybe on.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Jim is there. I've got a red flag based on
what I've seen and what I heard last night about
Joe Burrow, No about Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Oh so you loaded loading up on the Texans this week.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I just again, it's not a definitive opinion, little red flag,
just something to worry about. Anybody listening to my show
that owns a business, small business, you don't have a
definitive opinion on an employee. But if you see a
couple of things happen two or three times in a
row over the course of two or three months, it's
(10:34):
a little bit of a red flag. The employee maybe
can't handle that. Not good around this person. Not good
on those assignments. A little red flag way is small.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Well, remember his opener was buried at one o'clock.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
With like a billion games, He's going to be on
an island game now if he has a sixteen for
day ninety.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Three yards and it's like this guy is terrible.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, yeah, top of next hour, Greg Cosel.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
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Great rates none of the Bowl. So this is not
good news. Bears who were out played by Tennessee. But
due to Will Levis an egregious interception, the Bears beat Tennessee.
They were outplayed, totally outplayed. I watched every snap, totally outplayed.
(11:32):
That's bigger than you think. And I'll tell you why.
So Rama Dunzey and Keenan Allen didn't practice yesterday. Not great.
A Dunzee has a sprain MCL, not torn sprained. So
I'll say this again and I said this, everybody is
our witness. I think bow Nicks is going to have
(11:52):
the best rookie season of all the quarterbacks, why because
Caleb has a defensive coach. Jayden Daniels has a defensive
Drake May has a defensive coach. JJ McCarthy's not going
to play, he's injured rehabbing, and Michael Pennix, if he
does play, I think he will eventually as a defensive coach.
Bo Nicks has an offensive coach and a brilliant one,
(12:12):
And it matters for young quarterbacks in this league. No
worth doing it, not worth doing a segment. You know it,
I know it, we all know it. It mattered. Jared Goff,
Jeff Fisher, Jared GoF, Sean McVay. It helped. Bo Nicks
is also arguably the most accurate of all these quarterbacks,
with a brilliant offensive coach. And Sean Payton has relayed
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to me, kid can read a defense cognitively. He can
read a defense. So he's going to be the best
most productive rookie quarterback. Have no idea year two, three, four, five, six,
But this year, and I know it's only week two,
this is a little bit of a red flag out
of Chicago. Caleb Williams has taken seventy seven total snaps
(12:53):
I am counting preseason, when you face virtually no starters,
no starters and certainly no exotic blitz packages. Seventy seven
total snaps preseason, first game, forty nine passes, he's completed
twenty four forty nine percent completion percentage, And yeah, that's
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not good. Passer rating at sixty five not good. I
was also told last night, had in the conversation with
somebody that a practice before the Tennessee game pretty rough,
like the Friday practices. That's the easy stuff. Repetition, pretty rough,
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ball on the ground a lot. So my concern this
is not a definitive statement. It's a little bit of
a red flag. And this is what I worried about
going into Chicago. Who's there to fix it? I can
remember Mahomes didn't even have to play until week seventeen
first year, but even the year two, as he was flourishing,
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he'd get off into the weeds mechanically, and he pulled
it back. If bo Nick struggles, Sean Payton pulls it back,
McVeigh pulls golf back, Shanahan pulls brought pretty in. Who
in Chicago, Shane Waldron, I don't know. So you start
looking at that schedule, beating Tennessee despite the fact at
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home they were outplayed and overwhelmed offensively overwhelmed. They're not
beating Houston, Indy or the Rams. My prediction right now,
three game losing streak and by Halloween, Matt Eberflu's head
coach is dead, coach walking. He's in big trouble. So
I do not think it's too early to see red flags.
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Anybody watching or listening to this show. That's what coaches do.
You don't think Kaitlin de board Alabama. You don't think
sark is not looking at his team and going, you
know what, We're not very good at our second corner
and we got a team coming up Oklahoma in a
few weeks. That's what coaches do. It's what CEOs do.
You're looking for issues before they become controversies in major flaws.
(15:08):
It's a little bit of a red flag. I mean,
we don't think Tennessee's elite. You're at home, you have
excellent weapons, They've got Chicago's got good weapons. This is
top eight nine weapon packages in the league. Tight end
running back, I think their tackles are good. Just saying
forty nine percent, I'm counting all the snaps. When you
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add that to some of his struggles completing balls in
USC last year, and then you watch Miller Moss come in,
who's this other quarterback under Lincoln Riley and literally the
ball never hits the ground unless it's dropped. It's just stuff.
Here's Caleb about adjusting to the NFL.
Speaker 8 (15:51):
I was looking at the NFL this past weekend, and
I'm looking at all the all the teams and things
like that, and realize and that, like I've said in
many other interviews, that you know, the job is hard.
NFL is hard. You know that, and the defense is
gonna make it tough on you.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
So now that's what they're gonna do.
Speaker 8 (16:12):
Or weekend and week out.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Beating Tennessee shouldn't have but beating Tennessee was huge. Go
look at that schedule. Houston Indie almost beat Houston road games,
and then the Rams McVeigh Stafford who went toe to
toe and they'll be healthy by then. By the way,
then you start watching the Rams in week four, that
old line will be healthy again. Just thoughts, not not
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definitive statements, a little bit of a red flag. The
phone call I got the preseason stuff fort looked overwhelmed,
not getting the ball room, and Dunze got one look
just stuff Jmack with the news.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
No, no, this is the Herdline news.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Matt Aberfleus, Huh interesting. I hadn't that.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
That's a big bit of a leap for me.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I think they could beat the Colts next week. But
you could be honest something you do. It's keenan Allen injury.
I just had to adjust my fantasy lineup.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Thanks for the heads up on that one.
Speaker 9 (17:10):
You bet.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
I'm here to do that for you, and that I
could help.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
I didn't know it was there.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Let's get started with Matt Lafleur Colin again.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
I'm going to go back to this, is it gamesmanship
or could Jordan Love actually play? Lafleur has not ruled
out Jordan Love for week two. After that mcl sprain.
You know the Twitter doctors were saying it's a three
to six week injury. No, Lafleur has doubled down on
not ruling out Love just yet.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
You left the dooralk for Jordan on one day, set
door anymore of us. Peter said that.
Speaker 10 (17:38):
I'd say it's pretty open. He's doing a nice job.
He's spending a lot of time in the in the
training room. Our guys have done a great job with him.
Flee and Nate and all our athletic trainers are strength staff.
But at the same time, like I told you, guys,
he's got to be cleared. We got to feel like
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he can protect himself and he's got to be confident
enough to go out there and do that. Until that happens,
and that's that's We're not even gonna think about that.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Boy.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
This feels like a stay away game because even if
he does play j Mack, he hasn't practiced. And with
the young receivers, timing is still a thing, right. These
aren't guys who have played together nine years. He just
started last year for the first time. These receivers are
like not even halfway to their first their second contract
is that kids. So it's like, even if he plays.
(18:29):
And I'm telling you two teams lost last weekend that
I think are really good three teams, the Packers, the Colts.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
And the Rams.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Those are good football teams. The Colts, I don't know
if the culture that good.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
I fired on the Packers plus three last night.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
I think.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
They're going to show up, Lafleur will be ready.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Here's my thing.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Why would you force Jordan Love to play in a
week two game when you just paid him and you
risked like.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
The this Detroit one, Minnesota one.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
It's one game. It's a seventeen game season.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Man, how you go oh and two? So what the
staff said this this morning, there's like you go oh
and too? It goes down to like eight percent to
make the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Since twenty nineteen, forty one teams started oh and two.
It's only five years.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Okay, So forty one teams have started oh and two
in the last five years? How many many the playoffs? Two?
Speaker 4 (19:26):
So what?
Speaker 9 (19:27):
But what what are you maam?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Then the bucks?
Speaker 4 (19:30):
I mean we saw a team with like a five
game losing streak last year make the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
I think the stuff.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
If I said to you, when the kids start reading,
like when? When when do the kids get better?
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Five?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Okay? If I said to you, I forgot kids that
can't read by six years old, forty one kids at
a school that that couldn't read by six years old,
only two ended up going to college. Wouldn't you be alarmed?
That's a small time.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
It's such a small sample.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Sid Why I'm just saying. I'm just saying, you're forty
one times I've seen something twice it's worked.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
I mean it's fair.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
So you you're willing to rush your what is he
a fifty five million dollars quarterback? You want to just
rush him out there to get back in there so
we can win a game against the Colts in week two.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Play the long game, Colin being a little short sighted here,
my friend.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
A lot of you people into the long game. All
life is not a four to oh one k. Sometimes
you got to pull some of those funds out.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Okay, day Trader, I hear you. Next up, let's go
to Daniel Jones and the New York Giants.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Daniel Jones, Man, this guy's under fire. He was getting
booed off the field in like the third quarter. It
was it was bad yesterday. Jones took to the podium
and said he understands fans are upset and frustrated with
how the team has played, but he only cares about
the organization's opinion.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
I'm concerned about the people in this building. And you know,
I think I got plenty of help, plenty of good coaching.
Plenty of good teammates to work with here. That's what
I'm focused on. I've got, you know, people I trust
to have relationships with, who who can help me out.
But in terms of other people and what they have
to say or what they think from their perspective and
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what their observations are, is really not very important to me.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
I saw a piece of video last several days of
New York fans as he was walking.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yeah, that was bad.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
It was really ugly. It's like people are just jerks,
they're losers.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
The game was over in the third quarter, basically you
still hung around in the parking lot crushing beers. So
you could yell stuff at Daniel Jones about how much
he stinks. I know, like assess your life, like folks come.
I know that's a little harsh, Like he's not good.
We could say that fine, but to like stay afterwards
as he's walking to his car to heckle him. Is
he a starter in this league next year?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
No, No, he's not, and I Will Levis is not.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Mark Sanchez was trying to tell me Daniel Jones could
be a starter somewhere. He's like, look at Sam Darnold,
He's starting. Why can't Hel Jones?
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Sam Darnold's a much better quarterback.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
I agree, I think it's over for Jones as a starter.
Final story is, oh, look the Jets.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Hassan Reddick, the guy who's holding out since the trade,
hasn't practiced or played for the Jets.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
He wants big money.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
The Jets could obviously use him on the defensive line
as they could not get to brock Perty. In the opener,
Robert Sala says, there's no indication that Hassan radicals show
up anytime soon.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
The zero any side of ready today?
Speaker 9 (22:29):
Uh not that I'm aware from the past games standpoint.
Like I said, I thought San Francisco did a really
nice job getting rid of the ball. We stacked them
a couple of times. But look, we're always gonna want
our one rowing in the building.
Speaker 11 (22:42):
It is what it is.
Speaker 9 (22:43):
But you know, whatever they do gets done, it gets done.
Speaker 8 (22:51):
Not great.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Luckily they won't need him against Will Levis your guy,
but like big picture, it would be nice to have
a pass rush are in there.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
They missed Bryce Hoff obviously of course, la situational guy. Reddick.
Speaker 12 (23:06):
I mean, you just.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
I don't know, Colin, Like if you're the GF. It's
not your money, it's the owner's money.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Just just pay the guy, because guess what if the
Jets go six and ten or say sorry, six to eleven.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Do you think there are jobs anywhere? Do you think
the Niners, Eagles and Rams would pay us on Redick?
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Yes, they're in different circumstances. You're in the super Bowl
every other year.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
I mean, look at the Niners roster. They're paying everybody
except rock Pretty. People say, well, they're not paying brock Pretty.
They're paying everybody else.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
The Jets are not in that class.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
They're more in the Cleveland Browns class. That's right where
they're desperate and they need to do whatever. Hey, let's
pay just John Watson hope for the best. Let's pay
us on Reddick. Do you know what the GM and
sala are going to be gone fired?
Speaker 3 (23:44):
See ya if the season doesn't work out?
Speaker 1 (23:47):
A fair question. If it didn't work out, if they
ended up being eight and nine with or without Redick,
either way he comes back, he's not in great shape.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Is a good in I saw keeping his job? I
think I don't.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I don't think he is. I think i'd keep the GM. Okay,
all right, I'm asking I'm asking the question. I don't
know that j Maack with the news.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping that the
herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Speaking of that, I was, uh, there was an Aaron
Rodgers bite yesterday. He is good content. I mean, I'm
not gonna he's he's very good content. So he was,
you know, they're on and one, but you know they
looked ugly at O and one had one legitimate drive.
Uh couldn't stop anybody there. Owen One's are not the same.
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The Rams are on one. They looked mostly great. I
thought Indianapolis is on and one. No, no, no, Houston's good.
Uh you know, uh that's different than Tennessee being on
one and now facing the Jets. That's ugly. So Aaron
Rodgers met with a media and talked about everybody freaking
out after losing ugly to San Francisco.
Speaker 12 (24:57):
I mean, I think we always got to stay relaxed.
It's a it's a long season. I think at times
people think the season is like you're out in the
prairie or the desert and you're wandering around trying to
find water. But it's more like a nice slow Bolero,
you know where we're just swaying with the music and
reacting to whatever comes through comes to us and through us,
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and just trying to not get too high with the
eyes or too low with the lows.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
That sounds great. Relax, everybody, stay calm. I'm the leader here.
But if they lose to Tennessee and it's zero and two,
this puppy's unraveling. Okay, and Aaron can say whatever he wants.
He can be like Leslie Nielsen or or of the
Animal House scene. Everybody stay calm. Nothing to see here. Yeah,
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it's New York. It's the Jets, And staying calm is
much easier when things are aesthetically pretty, like, hey, they
lost in overtime to then in a shootout twenty four,
you know, twenty four to twenty one, losing a field
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goal overtime, you'd be like, Okay, it's aesthetically looked apart.
This didn't And then it's New York and I think
this is what makes this lift so difficult for Aaron.
Losing cultures never stay home. Rams do rams have massive injuries,
massive injuries. They could go oh to Tow and lose
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to Arizona. It won't be man overboard. Philadelphia goes into
losing streak, it's not man overboard. I mean the Cleveland
Browns and the Jets could walk through a puddle and
think they're drowning. That's the reality of poorly run franchises.
I mean, remember this week when Robert Salah said this
about the oh to one start.
Speaker 9 (26:52):
Unfortunately it does because I think I know we're going
to get the defense fixed, that that is not a problem.
Speaker 11 (26:59):
That's a problem.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
It's not a problem.
Speaker 9 (27:01):
And I know we're going to get a lot better
from week one to week two. We got a great
opportunity this week against Tennessee on a short.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Week again, Owen two, it's gonna look like Leslie Nielson.
Nothing to see here. Everybody be calm. I'm sorry, it's
not gonna be calm in New York. It's not okay.
And there was another graphic that I saw, a very
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strange passing chart that I got to look at this
morning for our radio audience. I apologize. Look at that
passing chart. He basically didn't look right. Everything was left. Now,
Aaron can obviously read a defense. Obviously Aaron Rodgers has
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a snaps. He's very cerebral. He can absolutely read a defense.
That's something you'd see from a rookie quarterback or an
overwhelmed quarterback. What does that passing chart tell you? It's
a very predictable, fairly simplistic passing game. You don't think
Tennessee's looking at that. I mean, look at that. That's
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a that's a rookie passing chart. Short and to the left.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
So I put this on my Instagram yesterday and I
had one smart guy saying, what did he say? He's
afraid of his backside.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yes, he wants he does off line.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Yet right, he wants that's right, Aaron right now, and
this he's recoiling. Aaron wants to throw left only so
he can see out of the corner of his eye
the pass rush. So that's something else.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
So Achilles injury obviously you understand criticized some PTSD.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Is that's right, PTSD is right this. So Aaron is
telling you right now, I don't trust think about this.
He doesn't trust Nat Hackett.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Well, he's never taken a snap with the new offensive line,
didn't do one in the preseason, which I think did
a disservice to him. Like you come out and see
that passing chart. I'm gonna tell you right now, this
Tennessee matchup, Colin, you start to dig into it. If
they put Snead, the great guy they got from k C.
If they just have him Jim Garrett Wilson at the line.
What other Jets receiver scares you, Alan Wizard, Well, Mike Williams,
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the barely played the tight end is a non factor.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
So they're just gonna stack.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
The box against Breeze Hall. This just screams like low
scoring game and the Jets better come out on top. Okay,
some legit concerns here for the Jets.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yeah, I mean that when I saw that passing chart,
and again I apologize to a radio audience. Basically it
shows Aaron just went left. So you got multiple things here.
You have an OC he doesn't trust and wouldn't pay
attention to the I rolls at Alan Lazard only throwing left.
Doesn't trust the OC. This whole thing about stay calm
and I really do. I think I really like listening
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to Aaron Rodgers. I love the book by Ian O'Connor.
I think the documentary on Netflix is gonna be fascinating.
I watch all the content. It's like people say, oh
I hate this show. I hate do you listen? That's
all that matters. I watch all the errand games. I
find him fascinating. He's very, very complex. But I think
it I twenty one pass attempts two to the right side. Okay,
that's telling you he's not comfortable looking away.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Yeah, And it's not like Patrick Certanz on the other
side of forty nine. Ers don't have a lockdown guy.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
So there's a lot of stuff here, and I think
it's very easy to say stay calm. What is when
Stan Kronk's your owner and mcveigh's your coach, and I
got Cooper Cup and Pooka Nakua, then it's easy to
stay calm and very easy. Hey, Christian McCaffrey's not playing.
The Niners are like, we're good. We got nine weapons
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and the backup kids good and Shanahan and his father
are the great run first offensive minds of my life.
It's just it's staying calm in New York Jets complex.
It doesn't work that way. That's not what it is again,
the Browns. The Jets walk through a ploddle for their
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first reaction is get a life for we're in trouble here.
They go zero and two. You and I know it's
our lead. It is our lead on Monday. Maybe I
should root for that. That's a good lead. Come on, No,
I want them to I do. I want them to win.
It's good for our business of the Jets. Are I
want the Jets to win.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Aaron Rodgers back on top.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
There's no one people think, oh, you're rooting for the
You know what? I root for star quarterbacks redemption. I
mean the Baker story in Tampa much smaller is a
great story. If Baker goes thirteen and four in that division,
it's a great story for us that that's.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Not happening, but yeah, it would be a wonderful story.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
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Speaker 4 (32:16):
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Speaker 3 (32:31):
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Speaker 1 (32:32):
Do you giggling a bottle? What's going on?
Speaker 4 (32:34):
I butchered this guy's name yesterday and they were just
telling me how to say it, and then I was
going over in my head how to say it.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
And I'm like, ah, Jason just screwed it up.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Damn. Top of the hour. By the way, I'm so
you know, we've been bringing Greg co Sell on my
show since I was at the other place, probably twelve
thirteen years and you know what, he's really good. Obviously
the TV audience can see how he breaks down stuff,
but I think you know, everybody now has a take.
Everybody He's got strong opinions, myself included. He didn't really
have one. He's not really he didn't predict games. He
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just says, this is what the tape is showing. So
I always think if you play fantasy football or you're
a gambler, beyond just being entertained by it, I think
greg is such valuable consumption. And I'm looking at some
of the questions. The staff and I kind of go
over some questions, what do you want to do? I
(33:24):
see that Sam Darnold question. My god, I can't wait
to hear this listen. It would be nice, as America's
honesty broker if one person in the viewing or listening
audience ever supported me one time. On Sam Darnald, I understand,
I'm on an island. I'm like Tom Hanks and castaway.
I'm talking to a volleyball. I'm out here by myself.
(33:45):
I'm on an island going crazy. But you know what,
Eventually Tom Hanks ended up back in insurance and life
ended very, very nice. So I'm gonna be fine. But
I cannot wait because I could have just banged a
drum all week on Sam Donald. No, that's not who
I am. Reticent, quiet, understated. So I've been saying this
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for years about the Pittsburgh Steelers. What's the standard? You're
still bragging about, Hey, we've never had a losing season
here the Pittsburgh Steelers. That's pathetic. That's what like most
of my life, the Browns, the Bengals. Now the Bengals
now have their act together mostly, But what is your standard?
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And I was thinking about this. Christian McCaffrey did not
play in the opener, and Jay McK and I were
talking about this. In a seventeen game season, soon to
be eighteen games, the Niners are not going to play
just seventeen games. They're a playoff team. They're going to
play eighteen, nineteen, twenty twenty one. That's what they're going
to do. But what I like about the Niners is
big picture. They have a high standard. And so Kyle
(34:51):
Shanahan was talking recently on a San Francisco radio station
about just letting Christian McCaffrey watch the preseason and watch
we one.
Speaker 11 (35:01):
If it was a playoff game. You know, you made
it very clear to me he'd believed he could go.
But when you hear that type of stuff and it's
not a playoff game and it's Week one and especially
when you're dealing with the lower extremities like that. It
was a tough decision, but hearing all the words and
stuff and the long running made it easy.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
And I also think this with the forty nine ers.
There are only two teams in the league. We have
thirty two teams. There are two that have a standard,
which is win the Super Bowl or it's a failure.
Dallas would throw a parade if they could get to
the NFC Championship. Even Buffalo, if they got to a
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Super Bowl, that would mean they beat Mahomes. They'd be satisfied.
They want to win the Super Bowl. But if they
lost a wild shootout with the Niners, they beat Mahomes
in Burrow and Lamar Jackson, it'd be a good year
in Buffalo with a lot of promise going forward. What
about Baltimore, Colin, you're telling me if Lamar Jackson wins
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two or three playoff games and gets to the super Bowl,
basically they know the extension they gave him, it's worth it.
He can win playoff games, and that also means he
probably beats Mahomes and Josh Allen. They would be okay
getting to a super Bowl. Green Bay I mean, I
think they're ahead of schedule. It's like the youngest team
in the league. The youngest team in the league Detroit,
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they've never been to a super Bowl. The other think Detroit.
I mean, if Detroit goes to a super Bowl loses
in overtime, what do you think their year is lost?
Michigan just won a Natty in college football. The Lions
a year and a half later get to a super Bowl.
I think they'd be okay, even successful. Philadelphia, what about Philadelphia?
Think about Nick Sirianni's fighting first job. They paid Jalen Hurts,
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who's been great for one year under Shane Steikan who's
now the Colts coach. If Philadelphia gets to a super
Bowl and loses a shootout to Josh Allen or Burrow
or they know Nick Sirianni's he probably gets an extension
because right now they don't know if Sirianni is the guy.
They know Shane Steichen and Sirianni were a great tandem.
They don't know if he's a guy. His story's coming out.
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He didn't get along with Jalen Hurts. So Texans get
to a super Bowl, just get there, come on there,
like three years ahead a schedule. So to me, Christian McCaffrey,
the whole ball game because it's the Niners, is will
he be ready to play February ninth in New Orleans.
Only two teams have that standard. San Francisco's been to
(37:31):
super Bowls, They've led Mahomes in the fourth quarter. That
that's not the end game. Shanahan's getting a little bit
of a rep that he has leads in big games
and loses him. Now, I think it's unfair. I think
he's brilliant, But that's the rep. If something happens over
and over and over, that's the rep. So it's that's
why you don't pay play Christian McCaffrey, Chiefs Niners. Totally
(37:55):
different standard than the league, completely different. I know you're
staying in Philadelphia. We in philadelh Helfia. You don't know
if Sirianni's the guy he gets to a super Bowl
this year in a better NFC, he's the guy. Give
him an extension. The Week two NFL schedule, take a
look at it tonight. I don't know why I'm doing this.
(38:17):
I'm gonna take Miomi over Buffalo. It is a very
strange week too. It's got almost a college football feel
to it. A lot of six point favorites, a lot
of lobsided Gardner Minshew against Lamar Jackson, Justin Herbert against
Bryce Young, Trevor Lawrence against currently awful Deshaun Watson, Geno Smith,
(38:44):
a couple of Pro Bowls, nine wins against Jacoby Brissett,
Aaron Rodgers, Will Levice.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Hey, I just noticed the schedule quirk.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
So the Raiders played Jim Harbaugh last week in LA.
Now they go across the country to face John Harbaugh.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Wondering if the.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Harball brothers are going to chat on the phone about
week something, any tendencies.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
What Remember Jim Harball came on our show and when
they got JK. Dobbins, he called his brother and said,
you know, we need a running back. And his brother's like,
the dude can pluck.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Gus Edwards too, and U s.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
The Harball family, they lean on each other. That's a
big advantage. That's a good catch by you. Nice catch
by you. If if you look at that.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Really fair the Raiders.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
If you're looking around the league, it's like, how you
going to say the brothers back to back?
Speaker 1 (39:30):
So week one you get upset Cincinnati lost to New England.
Look at that board right now, look at the entire board.
There's gonna be an upset this week. Where's the upset?
So that there's going to be one, I'll go Malik Willis.
Malik Willis basically just trashing the guy one day.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
He can't play, He's not a pro.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
The more you look at the gate, I think laflour
Is going to scheme up some some stuff, short stuff.
I bet you Malik Willis doesn't throw one pass beyond
ten yards and just a run game everything. Play an indie.
Just I saw their top cornerback is gone. He's out
Brent's so their secondary was a good Last week, CJ
strugged nine for nine on third down. Tell me Malik
Willis can't game manages way to a victory.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Let me ask you this. If bow Nicks beats the Steelers,
is that.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
I like that one as well.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
But that's below three now, Steelers are sitting on three.
Now it's below three. I think Denver at home.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Yeah, yeah, I think bow Nick's beating the Steelers. That
doesn't really qualify as one of the great upsets of
our time.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Yeah, of our time.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
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