May 16, 2025 • 42 mins
Colin discusses the Nuggets forcing a game 7 against the Thunder and why teams like Denver have had so much success in the playoffs vs the regular season darlings like Oklahoma City
He addresses Caleb Williams trying to maneuver his way out of getting selected by the Bears in the 2024 NFL draft that Colin originally reported over a year ago
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Speaker 1 (00:35):
May be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day.
Jmac Denver did it. I thought they were on fumes.
Jamal Murray was sick. Get him in that altitude. Let
them play a little bit. They actually had a bit
of a bench last night. We know that Okac's got
all the depth. You now have taken the tax you're
rooting against okc.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Oh thousand percent.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Colin, give me Denver all day, But tonight the big
one New York Knicks.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Can close out the Celtics. I know what they're doing
tonight for Friday night as time.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yes, so Denver wins at home, they force a game seven.
And what these NBA playoffs have clearly illustrated the dominant
regular season teams, a lot of them pretty, a lot
of them three ball reliant. The Calves are out, the
Celtics probably will be an okay season now in a
game seven. We've always understood playoff basketball is more intense,
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but the NBA's willingness to let it be super physical
has made the pretty teams pretty vulnerable. Celts Calves both
could be out by the night and they lived on
the three Oklahoma City's depth and blowouts in youth. They're
going to a game seven. These playoffs have had some
tush push to them. Denver's a great example, old, big, strong, tough,
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a lot like Minnesota who's already in the Western Conference Final,
and Denver's ben. That's been the concern right like it's limited.
But last night, once again Westbrook hit a couple of
big buckets, and another Gonzaga guy stepped up when Yokich
hit the bench. Julian Stroud was absolutely excellent hitting shots,
again a Gonzaga guy. But it's never been more clear
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the gap between the NBA's regular season and postseason. It's
wider than we thought, and we thought it was different,
and a lot of this is Adam Silver just saying, listen,
I'm getting complaints. I'm hearing complaints. It's two three ball reliant.
How do you change it? Let them be physical, bang
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around the shooters, Scoring inside matters more. Minnesota is not
relyant on a three. Pacers are not reliant on a three.
The Knicks are not reliant on a three. Denver's not
And so now now the Lakers and the Warriors, they
have that veteran playoff experience, but they don't have the size,
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and that's their shortcoming. I think it's made for highly
entertaining basketball. I thought Denver was done, but the former
champions have a chin. And again I think I like
Oklahoma City in Game seven, they're at home. I think
they'll shoot the three ball better. But you're giving me Jokich,
You're giving me Gordon Jamal Murray was great being sick.
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We have the potential for a number four seed facing
a number three seed in the Eastern Conference final and
a four seed facing a sixth seed in the Western
Conference Final. And listen, I said during the regular season,
I thought the game was too pretty.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
There's too much scoring.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I wanted more analytics, less analytics, less three ball shooting,
and Adam Silver listened to me and a lot of
you that were saying the same thing.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Let's get physical.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
It works, it's entertaining basketball, and it's benefited the Knicks
and the Pacers and Minnesota and Denver. Last night, teams
that don't necessarily rely on three ball shooting got Game seven.
And here's the coach of the Nuggets, David Adelman.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
The challenge of playing great teams is just being consistent mentally.
And again I've said this year out the series, what
they did this year is incredible. They've earned the home
court on Sunday, and on the flip side, we've earned
the right to go down there in the opportunity to
try to beat them in a Game seven. So this
is what it's all about. Team that's done it all
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year long. Group in there that hung a banner, you know,
I would tune into this game.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
So it's interesting. The Celtics, Calves and the Thunder during
the regular season averaged one hundred and twenty a game.
Those teams are now down to one fourteen. And those
teams we're making sixteen to sixteen and a half three
pointers a game. They're now down to fourteen. Well that's
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six points. And these are close games. So again, Minnesota,
the Knicks, the Pacer are physical and long. All the
teams with size that aren't reliant on the three are
either winning or about to win. And I think it's
better basketball. I just I've enjoyed the playoffs.
Speaker 7 (05:13):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
I've said for years, give me a mid range jumper.
I just don't want sixty two threes winning the NBA championship.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
So we saw baseball do this for years.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
They started tweaking and tweaking and tweaking, and it was
harder to score runs, and stolen bases were going down.
So baseball makes the base bigger, they get rid of
the defensive shift. Well, what's happening right, there's more hits
averages going up, there's more runs, there's more base runners,
there's more stolen bases.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
The NFL tweaked their cats.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
So what we're seeing in real time here is the NBA,
during a season of three point parades, saying, you know,
we don't want to we don't want our playoffs to
look like that. We want our playoffs to be about veterans.
Star there's physicality, a little NFL toush push, and this
is what you get. And I think it's been great.
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So yesterday a story broke yesterday. Oh wait, it broke
a year ago, and I got crap for reporting it.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Seth Wickersham, great reporter at ESPN, reports something we did
a year ago, which is Caleb Williams dad wasn't in
love with the idea of his son being a Chicago
Bear based on you know, history and the truth. And
Caleb Williams, you know, was considering his options but eventually
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just said, I'll be a Bear. So, and here's the thing,
this story broke yesterday when we were on the air
about midway through the show. All those concerns and all
those Chicago Bears hurdles turned out to be true. So
where you land, you know, this is seventy five percent
of the game for a quarterback. Gold got Matt Stafford
easily the best high school quarterback in the country, best
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college quarterback. Had to go thirteen years to really find
Sean McVay. He was seventy four and ninety in Detroit,
first couple of years in Los Angeles, Like, is he
better than Aaron Rodgers? He's hoisting a trophy beating Joe
Burrow in the biggest game of the year, go look
at Jared Goff zero for seven with defensive minded Jeff Fisher.
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One year later, eleven and four with McVay and a
passer rating in the hundreds. He looked like a bust
Sam Darnold disaster with a defensive coach, and the Jets,
well some Adam Gase and you know, some offense, some defense.
But where you land matters. Disaster in New York, struggled
in Carolina, magical in Minnesota. Baker Mayfield, It's Hugh Jackson,
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it's Freddie Kitchens, it's Greg Williams, it's it's Oh Then
he finds McVeigh and he finds Liam Cohen. What do
you know, Baker looks like a top twelve to thirteen
quarterback in the NFL. He you know, he The bottom
line in this stuff is, if you start looking at
your Bakers, if you start looking at Donald, if you
start looking at Goff, if you start looking at Stafford,
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if you start looking at all these guys, where you
land matters. And that's what Caleb Williams was worried about.
I mean, it's like if you were going to date
a rockstar and you were worried about infidelity and a
wild lifestyle. That's not being cynical, that's not being skeptical.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Those are legitimate concerns.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Now, the good news is, and we talked about this yesterday,
the good news is you can rebound. You couldn't like
twenty years ago, if you got stuck with your first coach.
You know, coaches that may be it like that's it.
There are so many now great young offensive minds, so
many McVeigh copycats. You know, Kevin O'Connell Minnesota, they call
them the tal Sean McVay. There are so many good
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offensive coaches. For a Donald or a Geno Smith or
a Tua or a Jared Goff has a second chance.
And I think Caleb got lucky. The Bears got rid
the front office ownership, got rid of the defensive head
coach and the defensive staff. They got him potentially his
Sean McVay. And I think Ben Johnson much like Sean
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McVay or Sean Payton in Denver or Kevin o'connla Minnesota.
What's the first thing Ben Johnson did clean up the
offensive line for his young quarterback, something Mike Tomlin can't
do for the last decade. So I think it's going
to turn out well. But I think all this stuff.
Ask yourself when you were coming out of college, if
I would have told you, yeah, there's this company that's
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going to choose you. They really like you, but they
have one hundred year history of not getting your position right,
would you not be concerned? So here's ESPN Seth Wickersham
that story that broke during our show yesterday on Chicago Radio,
and then Ben Johnson too.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Seth, how close do you think the Williams family was
to actually not being drafted out of Beardon subway, either
getting out of it or having one of these plans
come to fruition.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
I mean, I think it was like, you know, the
gasolines out do we want to light the match? And
Jabb didn't want to like the match.
Speaker 8 (10:01):
I see a chance for greatness here for him. He's
been communicated that way and he feels the same way.
I don't know what's going on prior to him joining
the organization, but he is very proud to be a
Chicago Bear. That's what our conversations have included. And he's
really excited to get to work right now and be
the best version of himself for twenty twenty five I'm excited.
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That's what makes coaching fun is when the hiccups occur,
when the adversity strikes, how do we respond to it.
That's when you find out who you are as a man.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
For the record, one year from now, Arch Manning. I
just read a story about arch Manning. He's put on
like eight to ten pounds or some muscle. It's really
worked in his mechanics. Arch Manning is going to be
the number one pick in the draft, and you know,
if you asked him privately, you know where he'd want
to go. The Rams, who have two first round picks,
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but they're going to be too good, and they have
Atlanta's first round pick. In Atlanta probably wins a lot
of games in the Week Division, so they probably won't
have the ammo to move up to get arch Manning. Privately, though,
that's where he wants to go. He would love to
go to them, not Cleveland, who also has two first
round picks. It's nothing against Kevin Stevanski, but you got
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Picket and Shaduur and Dylan Gabriel and Joe Flacco. It's
a circus. Johnny Manziel, you passed on Mahomes. It's a circus.
So like it's and I think everybody watching or listening
to the show understands it. Sports can be incredibly cruel.
The harder you work coming out of college as an athlete,
the worst organization you often go to. Cross your fingers
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on Ben Johnson. I do think him activating the front
office with the Bears and going heavy in O line investments.
Joe Tooney Drew Dolman is a great sign. First thing
Sean Payton did in Denver for bow Knicks get the
O line right, McVeigh. First thing he did from Jeff
Fisher Andrew Whitworth left tackle from the Bengals. So that
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was the first thing he did. Let's go get the
offensive line right. That bodes very well for Caleb Williams.
But I have no problem with his dad skepticism or
his as well. All right, J Mack, tonight is huge.
The Knicks now, Boston's a weird team.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Jmack.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
It is historically weird. Their net rating is better without
Jason Tatum. It's I know, it's crazy. I what's the line?
I would guess the Knicks are favored by one or two.
I like the next to night to.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
You, so yes, I do like the next day we'll win.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
That being said, this whole idea that the Celtics net
rating is better without Tatum, like we need more context.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Who are they playing?
Speaker 4 (12:42):
You know, are some other Celtics missing. I think this
that game was less about Tatum. The last one more
about the move to put Luke Cornett in the game
in the second half for Porzingis, who gave him nothing.
Luke Cornett had seven blocks Colin. There's videos online where
he's guarding three and four people. Joe Mizzoula finally got
off his head and did something.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
It was a genius move.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
But I still like the nixt to night Gardens gonna
be a nice scene. They're very excited for my Knicks advancing.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Well, it'll obviously the biggest Knicks game in I mean,
however long and if they win three yeah, I mean
it's it's but I mean, you're it's. The Knicks history
has been greater than the next recent history. Their their
their valuation as a team has always been greater than
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their productivity and results. But the world of basketball is
It's Madison Square Garden tonight.
Speaker 9 (13:36):
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Speaker 1 (13:45):
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Speaker 5 (13:55):
He did it again.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
So uh well, well, well, I have been defending occasional
anonymous sourcing. I get a lot of my information from
people who are gonna give me more honest, sometimes ruthless opinions.
They don't have to put their name on it. I
don't do it all the time, but I will defend
anonymous sourcing. You see these anonymous polls. The NBA does well.
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The WNBA just did an anonymous poll. You don't have
to put your name on it. And the truth finally
came out. Caitlin Clark voted on by general managers, the
vast point guard, the bass shooting guard, and the singular
player they would start the franchise with. In the weird
insular WNBA. This has been a real struggle, you know,
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the truth, so once you could be honest about it,
and that's I guess what you have to be anonymously
in the WNBA. And there's these people who are fans
of indie bands, international soccer, and the WNBA. They this
gait keeping mentality will tell you who's great.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
Colin.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I was watching the WNBA long before Caitlin Clark. Well, yeah,
it's not my problem. Your social life was boring. I'm
not gonna apologize for watching it when it got really interesting.
And I've said this about Steph Curry. I love Draymond
Green and Jimmy Butler and pods, but if you take
Steph Curry out of the Warriors, they're kind of boring.
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And if you take Caitlin Clark out of the WNBA
and her team, it's not the same. She's packing now
larger arenas. She's taking and making shots nobody's ever done
in the history of the sport.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
She is Steph Curry.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I mean, there's a reason the NBA puts Steph Curry
on Christmas, and privately, the NBA was Steph Curry out
of the playoffs. Nose Minnesota is not going to get
the same number WNBA players weirdly have been fighting growth,
stopped fighting the truth.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
Get out of your own way. It is a bad look.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
She is a fascinating player and it must be exhausting
hating new cool things. I mean, here's the twenty When
Steph Curry entered the NBA. You didn't hear any of this.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
Whoa slow down? You know what you heard?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Bro? I can take those shots now. Steph Curry opened
up the floor for other guys and shooting big guys
started practicing their threes, forward started practicing their threes. He
opened up opportunities. And never forget the Warriors valuation was
three hundred and fifteen million dollars before he got there.
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The latest valuation is eight point two billion. That's not
just Draymon and pods. I'm gonna tell you that's Steph Curry.
That's Steph Curry. The WNBA flew commercial flights before she
played a game. They went to privatized flights. Okay, that's
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Kitlin Clark, only Caitlin Clark. So just just promote it,
market it ride. The best wave this league has ever had.
Doesn't mean it doesn't mean they haven't had great players.
It doesn't mean they don't have other really great players.
But you get these comments, you get these unique unicorns.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
That's what she is.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
And once she went to an anonymous poll, the GMS
are like, yep, that's who you'd start the franchises with
that's the best point guard, that's the best shooting guard.
That's the best thing we have. It's been obvious for
everybody except a big chunk of WNBA players.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Here's Jmack with the news, No no turns.
Speaker 9 (17:47):
This is the herdline news.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Right.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Let's start with the New York Giants.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
We ridiculed them for that brutal schedule yesterday. Well, Giant
GM Joe Shane took his quarterback of the future, Jackson
Dark in the draft, and he talked to Kay Adams
about why he felt the Giants quarterback room can lead
Dark to success.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
In the NFL.
Speaker 10 (18:07):
Any player that we take, it's a collaborative process and
it's very detailed and we believe in it. So, you know,
Jackson's the guy that was on the radar throughout the fall.
We were able to see play live, spend a lot
of time with him at the Senior Bowl, you know,
as well as this springs. And then you throw into
Mike Kafka, who was there for Patrick Mahomes rookie year
where he only played one game and he got to
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see that development.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
And Shay Tierney, our quarterback coach.
Speaker 10 (18:30):
So three coaches on staff that have been a part of,
you know, the development of two pretty good quarterbacks in
the league right now.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Yeah, sure, well he'll play this year.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Oh really, how much.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
I think you'll see him?
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I mean, it's by the way, I read a story
today where Russell Wilson was fully engaged and aware that
the Giants were going to move up and take a quarterback.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
So he's gonna play.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
And I think if you look at their schedule, it's crazy,
It is unbelievable. The Giant schedule compared to the Niners.
It's two different sports. Like the Giant schedule, if they
play well, I mean, look at this playoff Washington at
Dallas playoff, Kansas City playoff Chargers. Oh, they get a breather,
but they're at the Saints, which is a tough place
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to play. Super Bowl winning Philadelphia playoff, Denver playoff Philly.
You know, the Niners are going to be better than
last year. So I mean, this is a I do
not remember a schedule through twelve weeks of my life
that was this. This is a brutal schedule for a
good deed.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Do you think they might not be favored in any
game next season? I don't know that they're definitely favored
against the Saints on the road. It's possible maybe, but
other than that, like they're gonna be an underdog in
every single game.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
That's a death.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Now Jackson Dark is playing, and Jackson Dark this team.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
The bottom line is Brian Dabole has to win games
if Russell's not within. My guess is they go zero
to four to start the year, and you may give
Russell Wilson the Saints game, or as a staff, you're like,
let's give Jackson Dart the only easy game on our schedule.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
There's a world where Russell Wilson works with his deep
ball down the sideline. To my league neighbors, we just
outjump everybody. I mean, maybe they're competitive.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
I just I don't see it. All right, let's move
on to the NBA column.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
I kind of found this comical, But there's a report
that says the Houston Rockets really want Jannis. They're considering
trading our prind Shing Goon in a package for Jannis.
Let me just get the wording for you. The Rockets
would consider. The report goes on to say Milwaukee said, yeah,
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but we'd rather have Jalen Green and Jabari Smith than
shn Goon. This is gonna be such a fun offseason.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
In the NBA. And I do think the Rockets and
Yannis make perfect sense.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Well.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
First of all, Shen Gun's an All Star at twenty
two and has a defined offensive game. Jafari Smith and
Jalen Green are just athletic. Green to this points lost
offensive place. So if that's what Milwaukee wants, by all.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Means, give it to them.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
If you can keep shen Goon in the trade for Yannis,
that's nuts. That's the one guy in the rosteroid.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
The only problem with that, Colin is then you have
two non shooters on the floor.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yannas ain't a three point shooter, neither is shan Gun,
so you've got to pack Lean.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
If you are able to move off Shnguon, could you
find us stretch five, a center who shoots threes, a
Lori market and just.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
So much Shen I think shan Gon can develop into
it nice. I don't know his numbers in front of me.
He's got a feathery, beautiful touch. He can hit eighteen footers.
I don't Shangun's a really nice classic Europeans smart, can shoot,
highly skilled, nice touch. I mean, if I'm Milwaukee, everything
starts with that. I don't want to be saddled with
Jalen Green trying to teach him how to play offensive
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half court basket.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Well, listen, at some point you need a guy who
can get a bucket. But the other thing is, remember
Yannis didn't really make the jump.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
To light speed until they unlock.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Lopez is a three point shooter, and then it was like,
oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Look at all this space in the lane.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
We got Middleton, we got Lopez, and Yannis is diving
and scoring at will.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
So this is good. Just gonna be fascinating to watch.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
My only thing, Colin, if you're Yannis or you're in
his camp, do you tell him listen, man, I know
the Rockets look appealing. I know this Spurs do. If
you stay East, you've got a better shot to get
to the finals because the West is beyond loaded.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Well, you know, Pete Carroll is telling Chip Kelly, Yes,
we have Sean Payton, Jim Harbaugh and Andy Reid in
our division, but you're gonna have to face him in
the playoffs eventually anyway, So why not get their playbooks?
You know, why not play them twice and know exactly
what they are. You're gonna have to play them eventually
so we won't get caught off guard. And my take is,
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you know, if you're Yannis, it's not about getting to
the playoffs, it's about winning titles. Well, you're gonna have
to play those teams anyway. And by the way, the
Knicks aren't going to be a pushover. The Celtics aren't
going anywhere. Indiana looks tough. So I at the bottom
line is if he wants to go where it's warm,
no state tax and a team that can win a title.
If if I don't have to give up Shan Goon
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and I can get Yannis, Wow, I mean the two players.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
I'm Houston.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I don't want to give up Amen Thompson and sham Goon.
You could have everybody else and picks. But if I
can keep those two and get Yannis, you are a
championship level team next year.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
That's a good poet, finals Roy Colin.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Ah boy, here we go with your favorite guy, Bill Belichick.
He was on the Morning Till Good Morning America Today
talking with Michael Strahan and Bill Belichick while promoting his
book was asked about his girlfriend, Jordan Hudson.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Take it away, Bill, what did Jordan mean to you?
Speaker 11 (23:51):
Well, we have good personal relationship, and you know, I'm
not talking about personal relationships, Michael. You know that she's
been terrific, you know, through the whole process, and she's
been very helpful to me. She does the business things
that don't relate to North Carolina that come up in
my life so I can concentrate on football, and that's
really what I want to do.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Yeah. See that doesn't bother me at all. And that's
what you know.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
She helps him with a little bit, you know, it's
hoodie and the hashtag. She helps him with all the
social stuff and he does his And by the way,
Belichick at this point has massive real estate. He's he's
got a lot of stuff going on in his life,
a book, she can do all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Yeah, I just Helen, how much of this storyline has
become about jealousy? You got a seventy five year whatever Belichick,
seventy year old guy with like a twenty five year
old hot chick who's in beauty pageants?
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Is there some jealousy out there around this story?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I think the family's concerns to me, are very transparent.
When they say they're worried about Bill, and they're worried
about the will, you know Bill is not He is not. Again,
he's not an old man, a feeble old man. People
that are seventy and that, like Nick Saban, when you've
been making ten to fifteen million dollars a year, you're
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getting better healthcare, you're eating better. You have people doing
all the DMV stuff. You're just doing. I mean, honestly,
you're playing a lot of golf, You're doing your job.
You're eating better than the average person. It's like when
people say all the Western diet, you only live to
be sixty eight. If you're making the kind of money
Belichick is, you have assistance doing the tedious stuff again, nutrition, medical,
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it's different life. He's seventy three the average American, he's
probably healthier than the average sixty three.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
That's great, Colin, I hear that.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
And then if you're in his family and you read
these articles that all of a sudden, this girl dating
Bill Belichick, all of a sudden has a massive real
estate portfolio in eight months, say whoa, whoa, what's going
on here?
Speaker 3 (25:52):
He gets swindled.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
I'm not saying that you just have to ask these
questions if you're the family.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
No, I don't think a girlfriend having a duplex in
Cape Town means belichi.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
What about swindled?
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Okay, what about three of them?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Oh, he's got a place in Jupiter, Florida, a place
in Nantucket. He's got one hundred million dollars in real estate.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Boats.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Oh, she's got a she's got a town home on
the Cape. I don't, I just I'm sorry, it just
it's bills, two hundred million dollar net worth. She's got
a seven million dollar networth. I'm okay with it.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
She has a seven million dollar net worth out on
blue see. Her networth two years ago was zero and
now it's seven.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
But again, I don't really care. My favorite thing is
this whole the money aspect. I'm sure you've heard all
these gurus online. Oh, money's not gonna make you happy,
you know what, Give me some of your money and
we'll then we'll talk about it, right like, I mean,
it's just silly. Like of course, she's gonna be thrilled.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Listen, her parents had a business, the business went bankrupt.
She's young, she's beautiful, she's ambitious. Let's just let's be honest.
Guys who were young from divorced families, ambitious, been doing
this forever like a young woman does.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
Everybody's like, whoa.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
It's like, guys, this is what kids come, a little
turbulence in their life. They have an opportunity. Sometimes you move,
sometimes it's a relationship.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Ambitious young people find their way. If it's through a relationship,
I'm okay with him.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
I'll reserve the I'm just gonna stand down on this.
I'll let your words.
Speaker 10 (27:29):
Do the talking to me.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Jmck with the news, Well that's the news, and thanks
for stopping by.
Speaker 7 (27:35):
The Heard Line News.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
So you know it's in my lifetime. There have only
been three athletes that have been like historically hyped and
then over delivered. Otani's one of them. Bobble had night
last night. He had two jacks. So the three athletes
are Tiger Woods, Lebron James, and Otani. I mean, think
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about Lebron James. He surpassed Magic Johnson and assists and
Kareem in points. Tiger Woods, nobody'd ever won four consecutive majors.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
He did. It's called the Tiger Slam.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
So I mean, you're when you're surpassing Magic and Kareem
and Jack Nicholas like that's that's and that's what we
have here. It's it's totally accepted. Now he's better than
Babe Ruth. I mean some guys break records. He's rewriting
the book. I mean, he's got fifteen home runs over
ten stolen bases, forty five runs scoredon twenty five walks
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through forty two games.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Never been done. And it's just so.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Interesting last night, and he hasn't He wants to pitch
for the Dodgers, and contractually the organization they probably don't
want him to. They're in first place without it. But
there's so many pitching injuries, and we'll talk to that
about Dave Roberts. Baseball's as three times as many Tommy
John surgeries today as like ten fifteen years ago. There's
a lot of reasons for it. Velocity is everything, you know,
(28:59):
Injuries are all all over baseball pitching staffs. The Dodgers
are a great illustration of that. So I think privately
they they probably would rather just can you just hit
and drive in runs?
Speaker 5 (29:10):
They don't want to risk the injury.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
But I mean, I think contractually they've kind of agreed
if he's going to be a Dodger, he's gonna pitch,
and he wants to pitch. But last night, two home runs,
six RBIs classic Otani on Bobblehead Night. He's by far
and away the most productive player. And here's home run
number one.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
On a two to oh.
Speaker 12 (29:28):
Otani hunches about the other way, headed towards the seat.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Set is game.
Speaker 12 (29:34):
A three run home run from Shana Otani. Ten runs
for the Dodgers in three anies on a team that
is completely stacked. The Dodgers batting order is an all
Star team this year. First in runs. He had a
little slump, he had I think he had his first child.
He didn't, you know, for a couple of weeks, obviously distracted.
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But he's I mean, on a team that's got speed, power,
Freddie Freeman, Mookie Bets first, second, third, you know, he's
just he's just a remarkable he Tiger Woods and Lebron.
I know, Lebron's got his critics, and we thought he
was going.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
To be really good.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
We didn't think he was going to surpass the skyhook
and Magic Johnson and still going and still a top
ten player.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
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Speaker 1 (31:30):
Dave Roberts, Dodger manager, top of the next hour, playing
great baseball. Got to keep those pictures healthy, which is
just incredible in baseball. Over the last five to ten years,
all the Tommy John surgeries have tripled. Danny Parkins four
years dominated Chicago radio. Now he's at FS one breakfast phone,
he's joining us. He knows his Chicago sports. So Seth
(31:53):
wick Osham, very respected guy, comes out and you know
he's writing a book on the history of quarterbacks, and
all of a sudden, here's Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams ad
I really defended Caleb, and I said, you know, years ago,
if your first team.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Stunk, you were really behind the eight ball.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Now golf to a Baker Darnald Gino, there's so many
good offensive coaches that you do get second and third opportunities.
Baker Mayfield now crushing it. So I think Caleb's going
to be fine. But what was your takeaway on some
of the comments by Caleb and his dad about the
Bears before they became Bears.
Speaker 15 (32:31):
Well, first of all, you were all over this, You
were reporting this well before the draft, that Caleb and
his camp had some concerns about the Bears. And you know,
when Carl Williams said this is where Chicago's where quarterbacks
go to die, I think there were about a million
Bears fans in the Chicago metro area who were like, yep,
we know, yeah, that's about as relatable, like thank you, like.
Speaker 7 (32:52):
That scene in Wolf of Wall Street. One of us,
one of us, one of us, Like it would.
Speaker 15 (32:58):
Have been like if a Chicago cut was like, you know,
I believe in curses before twenty sixteen, like we're well
aware that that's where quarterbacks go to die. I thought
Caleb was maybe like ten percent too honest with Seth
Seth Wickersham. I respect the fact that he owned up
to it. I don't think he needed to say that
he had his hand on the nuclear button for the
nuclear option. He's like, yeah, I was considering nuking the city.
(33:21):
Probably probably not necessary. You could have just been saying,
you know, I was, you know, evaluating all of my
options and I'm thrilled to be a Bear. But the
thing about it was was that all of the concerns
Colin ended up being justified. They fired Shane Waldron nine
games into the year, and Caleb Williams said he was
watching film alone and had never been taught how to
(33:41):
watch films. So it explains why it was such a
disaster last season.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Now again TUA defensive coach to McDaniels made a Pro Bowl.
I mean Greg Williams, Hugh Jackson, Freddie Kitchens to McVeagh
and Lee and Coulem transformed Baker's life. Goff Fisher to McVeigh.
One of the things that's been noteworthy. Kevin O'Connell did this,
Sean Payton did it in Denver immediately, and this is
(34:06):
one of the things. McVeigh did it in LA with
Andrew Whitworth. It's a very encouraging sign. The really good
offensive coaches consolve offensive lines, Andy Reid McVeigh in an
off season.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
They don't even need a season, they are an off season.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
So my take on Ben Johnson is he gets it
their money and focus on the O line. I don't
think people understand how good Dolmen and Tuney are like
in NFL circles. Those are like very respected players, So
I think I say, I think Chicago's a wildcard team
Or is that overly optimistic.
Speaker 15 (34:43):
No, it's not overly optimistic at all. It's a tough schedule.
The win total in Vegas is eight and a half.
But they upgraded left guard, center, right guard, nose tackle,
defensive end, tight end one or two depending on how
you value Cole Comet, wide receiver, three, head coach, and
play caller all in one offseason.
Speaker 7 (35:04):
That's pretty substantial. That's pretty good.
Speaker 15 (35:07):
There's always going to be more pressure on the Hall
of famers who have been paid who haven't won a
Super Bowl, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson. But Caleb Williams is
going to be very high up on those lists of
who's under the most pressure to perform this year because
you can look at the Bears roster and say, okay, kid,
time's yours.
Speaker 7 (35:24):
Like what do the Bears not have at this point?
Speaker 15 (35:27):
They've done everything right after sabotaging his rookie year.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
There's a lot of things to take away from the
NFL schedule. I thought of the Chargers between Brazil, all
these short weeks against Detroit Buffalo, Why the Chargers get
this cookie dough soft middle of the schedule I had predicted.
I think they're going to pull back there on the
margins anyway, right now, they enter the season with kind
of a sketchy O line, which is the only thing
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that's ever undone that's been the only kryptonite for Mahomes
has been like left tackle or O line issues.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
So I do think.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
They'll pull back and be like a ten eleven win team,
not a dominant not a dominant operation. Is there something
about the schedule that jumped out to Danny Parkins.
Speaker 15 (36:11):
Well last year we talked about the Pittsburgh Steelers how
they needed to get off to a strong start because
the end of the season.
Speaker 7 (36:17):
Schedule was so brutal.
Speaker 15 (36:19):
That's the Dallas Cowboys this year, and I know, Okay,
America's team. They're going to be on national TV. No
one's crying for the Cowboys. But it's literally historic. Week
twelve through Week seventeen, they play every team on their
schedule won eleven or more games last year. They play
on Thanksgiving, they play on Christmas, and there's two four
(36:39):
day breaks, like they have four days off between the
Eagles and Chiefs. I don't have the greatest memory in
the world, but those two teams were in the Super
Bowl last year. That's fairly difficult. Then four days off
between Chargers and Commanders, with that Commander's game being on.
Speaker 7 (36:54):
The road is remarkably difficult.
Speaker 15 (36:56):
So we knew the opponents ahead of time, but I
thought the sequencing for Dallas was absolutely brutal to finish
the season.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
So, you know, the Knicks game tonight can be one
of two things, historically great or a nightmare. I like
them tonight kind of your forecast, you're you're in the city,
your forecast for what we see tonight in an interesting series.
Speaker 15 (37:21):
I think the first quarter is gonna tell us a lot.
You know, this is objectively the biggest game at Madison
Square Garden since the Conference finals in two thousand. New
York is a basketball town. Just ask a New Yorker.
The Knicks are the one thing that really truly unites
the city because you know, Matts and Yankees, all the
different hockey teams, Jets and Giants. That's fairly well understood.
Whether you've spent a day here, an hour here, or
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years and years your entire life here.
Speaker 7 (37:44):
It's a Knicks town.
Speaker 15 (37:46):
But Colin, you know this three to one can get
spun two different ways. If it's having thirteen times in
NBA history a team came back from down three to
one or a team collapsed from being up three to one.
When Will Ron came back from down three to one
against the Warriors, it's the single most impressive thing I've
(38:06):
ever seen in basketball. He does it against the super team.
He leads both teams in all five statistical categories. That
was framed as a comeback with Tatum rupturing his achilles.
Speaker 7 (38:17):
If the Knicks lose, this will be a choke.
Speaker 15 (38:20):
Now, maybe if Boston ends up winning the title, history
will be a little bit kinder to it. But in
the immediate aftermath, this will go up there as a
one of the great chokes in NBA playoff history and
one of the great chokes in New York's sports history.
You remember, of course, four Yankees Red Sox that's down
three to zero, they come back, the Bloody Sock Game,
(38:41):
Dave Roberts with the Steel Big Poppy, the MVP, Johnny Daman,
the Grand Slam. Three ones not as bad as three
to oh. But when the star player on the Celtics
ruptures and achilles, I'll just say the Knicks better come
out hot in the first quarter tonight, or that's going
to be a very very tense building over at the
world's most famous arena.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
I know this is it happened almost a week ago.
I didn't get your take on this. Nick and I
were aligned on this. I'm not listen. If the NBA
was going to rig things, they wouldn't have Zion going
to the Pelicans and Wemby.
Speaker 5 (39:14):
Going to the Spurs.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
What do you make of all the Cooper Flag Dallas
Maverick rig talk. I think it's ridiculous, But I am
in the minority.
Speaker 15 (39:23):
Apparently you're not in the minority. This is an internet creation.
Everything is a conspiracy on the Internet. It's not enough
to be like journalists were in the room and then
the NBA is like, okay, here's the video of the
ping pong balls coming out, and people are like, yeah,
you edited it, Like I don't. I honestly like don't
know what people need to see to believe, Like can
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you reverse engineer it?
Speaker 7 (39:51):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 15 (39:51):
But if let's say the Spurs would have won the lottery,
you don't think people would have said, oh, it's rigged.
They want to take care of Greg Popovich's he transitions
to his role as president of basketball operations, and they
need Victor Webbin yamnna be good. So like Philadelphia big market,
Chicago big market, you can always attach a conspiracy to
the back end of an outlier event. And one point
(40:14):
eight percent is an outlier event. But it's not impossible.
It's one point eight percent, so of course it's not rigged.
It's objectively ridiculous. It is a little upsetting. Like I
will say that Nico Harris like like Nico Harrison didn't
deserve it, right, like MAVs fans deserve it. But the
thing that I more so than that it was rigged
(40:35):
talk I thought the most like objectionable thing was like
Miko Harrison gets the last laugh. Why because I because
pingballs bounced his way.
Speaker 7 (40:45):
Like to me, that was actually a worse take than
it was rigged.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
Great stuff.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Danny Parkins from Chicago now in New York, FS one
great see anybody.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
Have a good weekend.
Speaker 7 (40:56):
Let's talk anytime, Colin, Thank you.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
All right.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Danny's really interesting. I try to get him on the
volume as much as I can. Good storyteller, a lot
of background history in Chicago.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
Yeah, it's uh, it's uh. I just you know it's
I've said this before.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Bill Parcells used to say, don't draft a celebrity quarterback,
but you know, the world change. They're all celebrities now.
I mean, Shouldur Sanders is going to be a celebrity.
Now what you do with that celebrity? Arch Manning is
a celebrity. That's why he's been so understated.
Speaker 5 (41:22):
He won't talk. He's hiding because he.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Knows he's already going to be viewed as a Manning
and a celebrity. Should do or Sanders leaned into it,
turn people off. Caleb leaned into it, turned some off,
but he was so talented that he went number one.
At worst he was going to go to to Jayden Daniels. So,
you know, I think Caleb Williams is the reality of
what you're gonna see going forward. You're gonna see you're
(41:45):
gonna get big star quarterbacks. They're going to get paid.
I just read a story this morning driving to work.
I think I think Arch Manning is going to make
six million dollars this year at Texas. Like that's the
new reality. That's what they make. That's more than rookie
quarterbacks are going to make in many instances. In most instances,
because about twelve to thirteen quarterbacks get drafted a year,
(42:06):
eleven of those twelve or twelve of those thirteen are
not going to make six million dollars. And I also
think that benefits college football in the NFL, that some
of these quarterbacks that could come out may stand extra year.
You know, Andrew Luck could have come out, stayed in
extra year. Peyton Manning like the nil to me, the
I don't know if it was an intended benefit or not.
(42:26):
The benefit is stay in college another year is a
college basketball or college football player, and just get better
coaching and be more mature when you come out in season.
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May be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day.
Jmac Denver did it. I thought they were on fumes.
Jamal Murray was sick. Get him in that altitude. Let
them play a little bit. They actually had a bit
of a bench last night. We know that Okac's got
all the depth. You now have taken the tax you're
rooting against okc.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Oh thousand percent.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Colin, give me Denver all day, But tonight the big
one New York Knicks.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Can close out the Celtics. I know what they're doing
tonight for Friday night as time.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yes, so Denver wins at home, they force a game seven.
And what these NBA playoffs have clearly illustrated the dominant
regular season teams, a lot of them pretty, a lot
of them three ball reliant. The Calves are out, the
Celtics probably will be an okay season now in a
game seven. We've always understood playoff basketball is more intense,
(01:28):
but the NBA's willingness to let it be super physical
has made the pretty teams pretty vulnerable. Celts Calves both
could be out by the night and they lived on
the three Oklahoma City's depth and blowouts in youth. They're
going to a game seven. These playoffs have had some
tush push to them. Denver's a great example, old, big, strong, tough,
(01:55):
a lot like Minnesota who's already in the Western Conference Final,
and Denver's ben. That's been the concern right like it's limited.
But last night, once again Westbrook hit a couple of
big buckets, and another Gonzaga guy stepped up when Yokich
hit the bench. Julian Stroud was absolutely excellent hitting shots,
again a Gonzaga guy. But it's never been more clear
(02:17):
the gap between the NBA's regular season and postseason. It's
wider than we thought, and we thought it was different,
and a lot of this is Adam Silver just saying, listen,
I'm getting complaints. I'm hearing complaints. It's two three ball reliant.
How do you change it? Let them be physical, bang
(02:37):
around the shooters, Scoring inside matters more. Minnesota is not
relyant on a three. Pacers are not reliant on a three.
The Knicks are not reliant on a three. Denver's not
And so now now the Lakers and the Warriors, they
have that veteran playoff experience, but they don't have the size,
(02:58):
and that's their shortcoming. I think it's made for highly
entertaining basketball. I thought Denver was done, but the former
champions have a chin. And again I think I like
Oklahoma City in Game seven, they're at home. I think
they'll shoot the three ball better. But you're giving me Jokich,
You're giving me Gordon Jamal Murray was great being sick.
(03:21):
We have the potential for a number four seed facing
a number three seed in the Eastern Conference final and
a four seed facing a sixth seed in the Western
Conference Final. And listen, I said during the regular season,
I thought the game was too pretty.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
There's too much scoring.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I wanted more analytics, less analytics, less three ball shooting,
and Adam Silver listened to me and a lot of
you that were saying the same thing.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Let's get physical.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
It works, it's entertaining basketball, and it's benefited the Knicks
and the Pacers and Minnesota and Denver. Last night, teams
that don't necessarily rely on three ball shooting got Game seven.
And here's the coach of the Nuggets, David Adelman.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
The challenge of playing great teams is just being consistent mentally.
And again I've said this year out the series, what
they did this year is incredible. They've earned the home
court on Sunday, and on the flip side, we've earned
the right to go down there in the opportunity to
try to beat them in a Game seven. So this
is what it's all about. Team that's done it all
(04:24):
year long. Group in there that hung a banner, you know,
I would tune into this game.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
So it's interesting. The Celtics, Calves and the Thunder during
the regular season averaged one hundred and twenty a game.
Those teams are now down to one fourteen. And those
teams we're making sixteen to sixteen and a half three
pointers a game. They're now down to fourteen. Well that's
(04:53):
six points. And these are close games. So again, Minnesota,
the Knicks, the Pacer are physical and long. All the
teams with size that aren't reliant on the three are
either winning or about to win. And I think it's
better basketball. I just I've enjoyed the playoffs.
Speaker 7 (05:13):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
I've said for years, give me a mid range jumper.
I just don't want sixty two threes winning the NBA championship.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
So we saw baseball do this for years.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
They started tweaking and tweaking and tweaking, and it was
harder to score runs, and stolen bases were going down.
So baseball makes the base bigger, they get rid of
the defensive shift. Well, what's happening right, there's more hits
averages going up, there's more runs, there's more base runners,
there's more stolen bases.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
The NFL tweaked their cats.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
So what we're seeing in real time here is the NBA,
during a season of three point parades, saying, you know,
we don't want to we don't want our playoffs to
look like that. We want our playoffs to be about veterans.
Star there's physicality, a little NFL toush push, and this
is what you get. And I think it's been great.
(06:07):
So yesterday a story broke yesterday. Oh wait, it broke
a year ago, and I got crap for reporting it.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Seth Wickersham, great reporter at ESPN, reports something we did
a year ago, which is Caleb Williams dad wasn't in
love with the idea of his son being a Chicago
Bear based on you know, history and the truth. And
Caleb Williams, you know, was considering his options but eventually
(06:39):
just said, I'll be a Bear. So, and here's the thing,
this story broke yesterday when we were on the air
about midway through the show. All those concerns and all
those Chicago Bears hurdles turned out to be true. So
where you land, you know, this is seventy five percent
of the game for a quarterback. Gold got Matt Stafford
easily the best high school quarterback in the country, best
(07:00):
college quarterback. Had to go thirteen years to really find
Sean McVay. He was seventy four and ninety in Detroit,
first couple of years in Los Angeles, Like, is he
better than Aaron Rodgers? He's hoisting a trophy beating Joe
Burrow in the biggest game of the year, go look
at Jared Goff zero for seven with defensive minded Jeff Fisher.
(07:23):
One year later, eleven and four with McVay and a
passer rating in the hundreds. He looked like a bust
Sam Darnold disaster with a defensive coach, and the Jets,
well some Adam Gase and you know, some offense, some defense.
But where you land matters. Disaster in New York, struggled
in Carolina, magical in Minnesota. Baker Mayfield, It's Hugh Jackson,
(07:45):
it's Freddie Kitchens, it's Greg Williams, it's it's Oh Then
he finds McVeigh and he finds Liam Cohen. What do
you know, Baker looks like a top twelve to thirteen
quarterback in the NFL. He you know, he The bottom
line in this stuff is, if you start looking at
your Bakers, if you start looking at Donald, if you
start looking at Goff, if you start looking at Stafford,
(08:06):
if you start looking at all these guys, where you
land matters. And that's what Caleb Williams was worried about.
I mean, it's like if you were going to date
a rockstar and you were worried about infidelity and a
wild lifestyle. That's not being cynical, that's not being skeptical.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Those are legitimate concerns.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Now, the good news is, and we talked about this yesterday,
the good news is you can rebound. You couldn't like
twenty years ago, if you got stuck with your first coach.
You know, coaches that may be it like that's it.
There are so many now great young offensive minds, so
many McVeigh copycats. You know, Kevin O'Connell Minnesota, they call
them the tal Sean McVay. There are so many good
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offensive coaches. For a Donald or a Geno Smith or
a Tua or a Jared Goff has a second chance.
And I think Caleb got lucky. The Bears got rid
the front office ownership, got rid of the defensive head
coach and the defensive staff. They got him potentially his
Sean McVay. And I think Ben Johnson much like Sean
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McVay or Sean Payton in Denver or Kevin o'connla Minnesota.
What's the first thing Ben Johnson did clean up the
offensive line for his young quarterback, something Mike Tomlin can't
do for the last decade. So I think it's going
to turn out well. But I think all this stuff.
Ask yourself when you were coming out of college, if
I would have told you, yeah, there's this company that's
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going to choose you. They really like you, but they
have one hundred year history of not getting your position right,
would you not be concerned? So here's ESPN Seth Wickersham
that story that broke during our show yesterday on Chicago Radio,
and then Ben Johnson too.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Seth, how close do you think the Williams family was
to actually not being drafted out of Beardon subway, either
getting out of it or having one of these plans
come to fruition.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
I mean, I think it was like, you know, the
gasolines out do we want to light the match? And
Jabb didn't want to like the match.
Speaker 8 (10:01):
I see a chance for greatness here for him. He's
been communicated that way and he feels the same way.
I don't know what's going on prior to him joining
the organization, but he is very proud to be a
Chicago Bear. That's what our conversations have included. And he's
really excited to get to work right now and be
the best version of himself for twenty twenty five I'm excited.
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That's what makes coaching fun is when the hiccups occur,
when the adversity strikes, how do we respond to it.
That's when you find out who you are as a man.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
For the record, one year from now, Arch Manning. I
just read a story about arch Manning. He's put on
like eight to ten pounds or some muscle. It's really
worked in his mechanics. Arch Manning is going to be
the number one pick in the draft, and you know,
if you asked him privately, you know where he'd want
to go. The Rams, who have two first round picks,
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but they're going to be too good, and they have
Atlanta's first round pick. In Atlanta probably wins a lot
of games in the Week Division, so they probably won't
have the ammo to move up to get arch Manning. Privately, though,
that's where he wants to go. He would love to
go to them, not Cleveland, who also has two first
round picks. It's nothing against Kevin Stevanski, but you got
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Picket and Shaduur and Dylan Gabriel and Joe Flacco. It's
a circus. Johnny Manziel, you passed on Mahomes. It's a circus.
So like it's and I think everybody watching or listening
to the show understands it. Sports can be incredibly cruel.
The harder you work coming out of college as an athlete,
the worst organization you often go to. Cross your fingers
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on Ben Johnson. I do think him activating the front
office with the Bears and going heavy in O line investments.
Joe Tooney Drew Dolman is a great sign. First thing
Sean Payton did in Denver for bow Knicks get the
O line right, McVeigh. First thing he did from Jeff
Fisher Andrew Whitworth left tackle from the Bengals. So that
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was the first thing he did. Let's go get the
offensive line right. That bodes very well for Caleb Williams.
But I have no problem with his dad skepticism or
his as well. All right, J Mack, tonight is huge.
The Knicks now, Boston's a weird team.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Jmack.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
It is historically weird. Their net rating is better without
Jason Tatum. It's I know, it's crazy. I what's the line?
I would guess the Knicks are favored by one or two.
I like the next to night to.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
You, so yes, I do like the next day we'll win.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
That being said, this whole idea that the Celtics net
rating is better without Tatum, like we need more context.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Who are they playing?
Speaker 4 (12:42):
You know, are some other Celtics missing. I think this
that game was less about Tatum. The last one more
about the move to put Luke Cornett in the game
in the second half for Porzingis, who gave him nothing.
Luke Cornett had seven blocks Colin. There's videos online where
he's guarding three and four people. Joe Mizzoula finally got
off his head and did something.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
It was a genius move.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
But I still like the nixt to night Gardens gonna
be a nice scene. They're very excited for my Knicks advancing.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Well, it'll obviously the biggest Knicks game in I mean,
however long and if they win three yeah, I mean
it's it's but I mean, you're it's. The Knicks history
has been greater than the next recent history. Their their
their valuation as a team has always been greater than
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their productivity and results. But the world of basketball is
It's Madison Square Garden tonight.
Speaker 9 (13:36):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays
in noon Easter nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
FS one and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Dave Roberts, Dodgers manager, stopping by in forty minutes, Best
team in Baseball, Best player ever o Tawny Bubble d Night.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
He did it again.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
So uh well, well, well, I have been defending occasional
anonymous sourcing. I get a lot of my information from
people who are gonna give me more honest, sometimes ruthless opinions.
They don't have to put their name on it. I
don't do it all the time, but I will defend
anonymous sourcing. You see these anonymous polls. The NBA does well.
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The WNBA just did an anonymous poll. You don't have
to put your name on it. And the truth finally
came out. Caitlin Clark voted on by general managers, the
vast point guard, the bass shooting guard, and the singular
player they would start the franchise with. In the weird
insular WNBA. This has been a real struggle, you know,
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the truth, so once you could be honest about it,
and that's I guess what you have to be anonymously
in the WNBA. And there's these people who are fans
of indie bands, international soccer, and the WNBA. They this
gait keeping mentality will tell you who's great.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
Colin.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I was watching the WNBA long before Caitlin Clark. Well, yeah,
it's not my problem. Your social life was boring. I'm
not gonna apologize for watching it when it got really interesting.
And I've said this about Steph Curry. I love Draymond
Green and Jimmy Butler and pods, but if you take
Steph Curry out of the Warriors, they're kind of boring.
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And if you take Caitlin Clark out of the WNBA
and her team, it's not the same. She's packing now
larger arenas. She's taking and making shots nobody's ever done
in the history of the sport.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
She is Steph Curry.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I mean, there's a reason the NBA puts Steph Curry
on Christmas, and privately, the NBA was Steph Curry out
of the playoffs. Nose Minnesota is not going to get
the same number WNBA players weirdly have been fighting growth,
stopped fighting the truth.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
Get out of your own way. It is a bad look.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
She is a fascinating player and it must be exhausting
hating new cool things. I mean, here's the twenty When
Steph Curry entered the NBA. You didn't hear any of this.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
Whoa slow down? You know what you heard?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Bro? I can take those shots now. Steph Curry opened
up the floor for other guys and shooting big guys
started practicing their threes, forward started practicing their threes. He
opened up opportunities. And never forget the Warriors valuation was
three hundred and fifteen million dollars before he got there.
(16:40):
The latest valuation is eight point two billion. That's not
just Draymon and pods. I'm gonna tell you that's Steph Curry.
That's Steph Curry. The WNBA flew commercial flights before she
played a game. They went to privatized flights. Okay, that's
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Kitlin Clark, only Caitlin Clark. So just just promote it,
market it ride. The best wave this league has ever had.
Doesn't mean it doesn't mean they haven't had great players.
It doesn't mean they don't have other really great players.
But you get these comments, you get these unique unicorns.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
That's what she is.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
And once she went to an anonymous poll, the GMS
are like, yep, that's who you'd start the franchises with
that's the best point guard, that's the best shooting guard.
That's the best thing we have. It's been obvious for
everybody except a big chunk of WNBA players.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Here's Jmack with the news, No no turns.
Speaker 9 (17:47):
This is the herdline news.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Right.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Let's start with the New York Giants.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
We ridiculed them for that brutal schedule yesterday. Well, Giant
GM Joe Shane took his quarterback of the future, Jackson
Dark in the draft, and he talked to Kay Adams
about why he felt the Giants quarterback room can lead
Dark to success.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
In the NFL.
Speaker 10 (18:07):
Any player that we take, it's a collaborative process and
it's very detailed and we believe in it. So, you know,
Jackson's the guy that was on the radar throughout the fall.
We were able to see play live, spend a lot
of time with him at the Senior Bowl, you know,
as well as this springs. And then you throw into
Mike Kafka, who was there for Patrick Mahomes rookie year
where he only played one game and he got to
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see that development.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
And Shay Tierney, our quarterback coach.
Speaker 10 (18:30):
So three coaches on staff that have been a part of,
you know, the development of two pretty good quarterbacks in
the league right now.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Yeah, sure, well he'll play this year.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Oh really, how much.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
I think you'll see him?
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I mean, it's by the way, I read a story
today where Russell Wilson was fully engaged and aware that
the Giants were going to move up and take a quarterback.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
So he's gonna play.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
And I think if you look at their schedule, it's crazy,
It is unbelievable. The Giant schedule compared to the Niners.
It's two different sports. Like the Giant schedule, if they
play well, I mean, look at this playoff Washington at
Dallas playoff, Kansas City playoff Chargers. Oh, they get a breather,
but they're at the Saints, which is a tough place
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to play. Super Bowl winning Philadelphia playoff, Denver playoff Philly.
You know, the Niners are going to be better than
last year. So I mean, this is a I do
not remember a schedule through twelve weeks of my life
that was this. This is a brutal schedule for a
good deed.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Do you think they might not be favored in any
game next season? I don't know that they're definitely favored
against the Saints on the road. It's possible maybe, but
other than that, like they're gonna be an underdog in
every single game.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
That's a death.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Now Jackson Dark is playing, and Jackson Dark this team.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
The bottom line is Brian Dabole has to win games
if Russell's not within. My guess is they go zero
to four to start the year, and you may give
Russell Wilson the Saints game, or as a staff, you're like,
let's give Jackson Dart the only easy game on our schedule.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
There's a world where Russell Wilson works with his deep
ball down the sideline. To my league neighbors, we just
outjump everybody. I mean, maybe they're competitive.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
I just I don't see it. All right, let's move
on to the NBA column.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
I kind of found this comical, But there's a report
that says the Houston Rockets really want Jannis. They're considering
trading our prind Shing Goon in a package for Jannis.
Let me just get the wording for you. The Rockets
would consider. The report goes on to say Milwaukee said, yeah,
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but we'd rather have Jalen Green and Jabari Smith than
shn Goon. This is gonna be such a fun offseason.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
In the NBA. And I do think the Rockets and
Yannis make perfect sense.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Well.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
First of all, Shen Gun's an All Star at twenty
two and has a defined offensive game. Jafari Smith and
Jalen Green are just athletic. Green to this points lost
offensive place. So if that's what Milwaukee wants, by all.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Means, give it to them.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
If you can keep shen Goon in the trade for Yannis,
that's nuts. That's the one guy in the rosteroid.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
The only problem with that, Colin is then you have
two non shooters on the floor.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yannas ain't a three point shooter, neither is shan Gun,
so you've got to pack Lean.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
If you are able to move off Shnguon, could you
find us stretch five, a center who shoots threes, a
Lori market and just.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
So much Shen I think shan Gon can develop into
it nice. I don't know his numbers in front of me.
He's got a feathery, beautiful touch. He can hit eighteen footers.
I don't Shangun's a really nice classic Europeans smart, can shoot,
highly skilled, nice touch. I mean, if I'm Milwaukee, everything
starts with that. I don't want to be saddled with
Jalen Green trying to teach him how to play offensive
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half court basket.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Well, listen, at some point you need a guy who
can get a bucket. But the other thing is, remember
Yannis didn't really make the jump.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
To light speed until they unlock.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Lopez is a three point shooter, and then it was like,
oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Look at all this space in the lane.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
We got Middleton, we got Lopez, and Yannis is diving
and scoring at will.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
So this is good. Just gonna be fascinating to watch.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
My only thing, Colin, if you're Yannis or you're in
his camp, do you tell him listen, man, I know
the Rockets look appealing. I know this Spurs do. If
you stay East, you've got a better shot to get
to the finals because the West is beyond loaded.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Well, you know, Pete Carroll is telling Chip Kelly, Yes,
we have Sean Payton, Jim Harbaugh and Andy Reid in
our division, but you're gonna have to face him in
the playoffs eventually anyway, So why not get their playbooks?
You know, why not play them twice and know exactly
what they are. You're gonna have to play them eventually
so we won't get caught off guard. And my take is,
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you know, if you're Yannis, it's not about getting to
the playoffs, it's about winning titles. Well, you're gonna have
to play those teams anyway. And by the way, the
Knicks aren't going to be a pushover. The Celtics aren't
going anywhere. Indiana looks tough. So I at the bottom
line is if he wants to go where it's warm,
no state tax and a team that can win a title.
If if I don't have to give up Shan Goon
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and I can get Yannis, Wow, I mean the two players.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
I'm Houston.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I don't want to give up Amen Thompson and sham Goon.
You could have everybody else and picks. But if I
can keep those two and get Yannis, you are a
championship level team next year.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
That's a good poet, finals Roy Colin.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Ah boy, here we go with your favorite guy, Bill Belichick.
He was on the Morning Till Good Morning America Today
talking with Michael Strahan and Bill Belichick while promoting his
book was asked about his girlfriend, Jordan Hudson.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Take it away, Bill, what did Jordan mean to you?
Speaker 11 (23:51):
Well, we have good personal relationship, and you know, I'm
not talking about personal relationships, Michael. You know that she's
been terrific, you know, through the whole process, and she's
been very helpful to me. She does the business things
that don't relate to North Carolina that come up in
my life so I can concentrate on football, and that's
really what I want to do.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Yeah. See that doesn't bother me at all. And that's
what you know.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
She helps him with a little bit, you know, it's
hoodie and the hashtag. She helps him with all the
social stuff and he does his And by the way,
Belichick at this point has massive real estate. He's he's
got a lot of stuff going on in his life,
a book, she can do all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Yeah, I just Helen, how much of this storyline has
become about jealousy? You got a seventy five year whatever Belichick,
seventy year old guy with like a twenty five year
old hot chick who's in beauty pageants?
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Is there some jealousy out there around this story?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I think the family's concerns to me, are very transparent.
When they say they're worried about Bill, and they're worried
about the will, you know Bill is not He is not. Again,
he's not an old man, a feeble old man. People
that are seventy and that, like Nick Saban, when you've
been making ten to fifteen million dollars a year, you're
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getting better healthcare, you're eating better. You have people doing
all the DMV stuff. You're just doing. I mean, honestly,
you're playing a lot of golf, You're doing your job.
You're eating better than the average person. It's like when
people say all the Western diet, you only live to
be sixty eight. If you're making the kind of money
Belichick is, you have assistance doing the tedious stuff again, nutrition, medical,
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it's different life. He's seventy three the average American, he's
probably healthier than the average sixty three.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
That's great, Colin, I hear that.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
And then if you're in his family and you read
these articles that all of a sudden, this girl dating
Bill Belichick, all of a sudden has a massive real
estate portfolio in eight months, say whoa, whoa, what's going
on here?
Speaker 3 (25:52):
He gets swindled.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
I'm not saying that you just have to ask these
questions if you're the family.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
No, I don't think a girlfriend having a duplex in
Cape Town means belichi.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
What about swindled?
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Okay, what about three of them?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Oh, he's got a place in Jupiter, Florida, a place
in Nantucket. He's got one hundred million dollars in real estate.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Boats.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Oh, she's got a she's got a town home on
the Cape. I don't, I just I'm sorry, it just
it's bills, two hundred million dollar net worth. She's got
a seven million dollar networth. I'm okay with it.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
She has a seven million dollar net worth out on
blue see. Her networth two years ago was zero and
now it's seven.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
But again, I don't really care. My favorite thing is
this whole the money aspect. I'm sure you've heard all
these gurus online. Oh, money's not gonna make you happy,
you know what, Give me some of your money and
we'll then we'll talk about it, right like, I mean,
it's just silly. Like of course, she's gonna be thrilled.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Listen, her parents had a business, the business went bankrupt.
She's young, she's beautiful, she's ambitious. Let's just let's be honest.
Guys who were young from divorced families, ambitious, been doing
this forever like a young woman does.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
Everybody's like, whoa.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
It's like, guys, this is what kids come, a little
turbulence in their life. They have an opportunity. Sometimes you move,
sometimes it's a relationship.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Ambitious young people find their way. If it's through a relationship,
I'm okay with him.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
I'll reserve the I'm just gonna stand down on this.
I'll let your words.
Speaker 10 (27:29):
Do the talking to me.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Jmck with the news, Well that's the news, and thanks
for stopping by.
Speaker 7 (27:35):
The Heard Line News.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
So you know it's in my lifetime. There have only
been three athletes that have been like historically hyped and
then over delivered. Otani's one of them. Bobble had night
last night. He had two jacks. So the three athletes
are Tiger Woods, Lebron James, and Otani. I mean, think
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about Lebron James. He surpassed Magic Johnson and assists and
Kareem in points. Tiger Woods, nobody'd ever won four consecutive majors.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
He did. It's called the Tiger Slam.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
So I mean, you're when you're surpassing Magic and Kareem
and Jack Nicholas like that's that's and that's what we
have here. It's it's totally accepted. Now he's better than
Babe Ruth. I mean some guys break records. He's rewriting
the book. I mean, he's got fifteen home runs over
ten stolen bases, forty five runs scoredon twenty five walks
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through forty two games.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Never been done. And it's just so.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Interesting last night, and he hasn't He wants to pitch
for the Dodgers, and contractually the organization they probably don't
want him to. They're in first place without it. But
there's so many pitching injuries, and we'll talk to that
about Dave Roberts. Baseball's as three times as many Tommy
John surgeries today as like ten fifteen years ago. There's
a lot of reasons for it. Velocity is everything, you know,
(28:59):
Injuries are all all over baseball pitching staffs. The Dodgers
are a great illustration of that. So I think privately
they they probably would rather just can you just hit
and drive in runs?
Speaker 5 (29:10):
They don't want to risk the injury.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
But I mean, I think contractually they've kind of agreed
if he's going to be a Dodger, he's gonna pitch,
and he wants to pitch. But last night, two home runs,
six RBIs classic Otani on Bobblehead Night. He's by far
and away the most productive player. And here's home run
number one.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
On a two to oh.
Speaker 12 (29:28):
Otani hunches about the other way, headed towards the seat.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Set is game.
Speaker 12 (29:34):
A three run home run from Shana Otani. Ten runs
for the Dodgers in three anies on a team that
is completely stacked. The Dodgers batting order is an all
Star team this year. First in runs. He had a
little slump, he had I think he had his first child.
He didn't, you know, for a couple of weeks, obviously distracted.
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But he's I mean, on a team that's got speed, power,
Freddie Freeman, Mookie Bets first, second, third, you know, he's
just he's just a remarkable he Tiger Woods and Lebron.
I know, Lebron's got his critics, and we thought he
was going.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
To be really good.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
We didn't think he was going to surpass the skyhook
and Magic Johnson and still going and still a top
ten player.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
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Speaker 1 (31:30):
Dave Roberts, Dodger manager, top of the next hour, playing
great baseball. Got to keep those pictures healthy, which is
just incredible in baseball. Over the last five to ten years,
all the Tommy John surgeries have tripled. Danny Parkins four
years dominated Chicago radio. Now he's at FS one breakfast phone,
he's joining us. He knows his Chicago sports. So Seth
(31:53):
wick Osham, very respected guy, comes out and you know
he's writing a book on the history of quarterbacks, and
all of a sudden, here's Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams ad
I really defended Caleb, and I said, you know, years ago,
if your first team.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Stunk, you were really behind the eight ball.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Now golf to a Baker Darnald Gino, there's so many
good offensive coaches that you do get second and third opportunities.
Baker Mayfield now crushing it. So I think Caleb's going
to be fine. But what was your takeaway on some
of the comments by Caleb and his dad about the
Bears before they became Bears.
Speaker 15 (32:31):
Well, first of all, you were all over this, You
were reporting this well before the draft, that Caleb and
his camp had some concerns about the Bears. And you know,
when Carl Williams said this is where Chicago's where quarterbacks
go to die, I think there were about a million
Bears fans in the Chicago metro area who were like, yep,
we know, yeah, that's about as relatable, like thank you, like.
Speaker 7 (32:52):
That scene in Wolf of Wall Street. One of us,
one of us, one of us, Like it would.
Speaker 15 (32:58):
Have been like if a Chicago cut was like, you know,
I believe in curses before twenty sixteen, like we're well
aware that that's where quarterbacks go to die. I thought
Caleb was maybe like ten percent too honest with Seth
Seth Wickersham. I respect the fact that he owned up
to it. I don't think he needed to say that
he had his hand on the nuclear button for the
nuclear option. He's like, yeah, I was considering nuking the city.
(33:21):
Probably probably not necessary. You could have just been saying,
you know, I was, you know, evaluating all of my
options and I'm thrilled to be a Bear. But the
thing about it was was that all of the concerns
Colin ended up being justified. They fired Shane Waldron nine
games into the year, and Caleb Williams said he was
watching film alone and had never been taught how to
(33:41):
watch films. So it explains why it was such a
disaster last season.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Now again TUA defensive coach to McDaniels made a Pro Bowl.
I mean Greg Williams, Hugh Jackson, Freddie Kitchens to McVeagh
and Lee and Coulem transformed Baker's life. Goff Fisher to McVeigh.
One of the things that's been noteworthy. Kevin O'Connell did this,
Sean Payton did it in Denver immediately, and this is
(34:06):
one of the things. McVeigh did it in LA with
Andrew Whitworth. It's a very encouraging sign. The really good
offensive coaches consolve offensive lines, Andy Reid McVeigh in an
off season.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
They don't even need a season, they are an off season.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
So my take on Ben Johnson is he gets it
their money and focus on the O line. I don't
think people understand how good Dolmen and Tuney are like
in NFL circles. Those are like very respected players, So
I think I say, I think Chicago's a wildcard team
Or is that overly optimistic.
Speaker 15 (34:43):
No, it's not overly optimistic at all. It's a tough schedule.
The win total in Vegas is eight and a half.
But they upgraded left guard, center, right guard, nose tackle,
defensive end, tight end one or two depending on how
you value Cole Comet, wide receiver, three, head coach, and
play caller all in one offseason.
Speaker 7 (35:04):
That's pretty substantial. That's pretty good.
Speaker 15 (35:07):
There's always going to be more pressure on the Hall
of famers who have been paid who haven't won a
Super Bowl, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson. But Caleb Williams is
going to be very high up on those lists of
who's under the most pressure to perform this year because
you can look at the Bears roster and say, okay, kid,
time's yours.
Speaker 7 (35:24):
Like what do the Bears not have at this point?
Speaker 15 (35:27):
They've done everything right after sabotaging his rookie year.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
There's a lot of things to take away from the
NFL schedule. I thought of the Chargers between Brazil, all
these short weeks against Detroit Buffalo, Why the Chargers get
this cookie dough soft middle of the schedule I had predicted.
I think they're going to pull back there on the
margins anyway, right now, they enter the season with kind
of a sketchy O line, which is the only thing
(35:54):
that's ever undone that's been the only kryptonite for Mahomes
has been like left tackle or O line issues.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
So I do think.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
They'll pull back and be like a ten eleven win team,
not a dominant not a dominant operation. Is there something
about the schedule that jumped out to Danny Parkins.
Speaker 15 (36:11):
Well last year we talked about the Pittsburgh Steelers how
they needed to get off to a strong start because
the end of the season.
Speaker 7 (36:17):
Schedule was so brutal.
Speaker 15 (36:19):
That's the Dallas Cowboys this year, and I know, Okay,
America's team. They're going to be on national TV. No
one's crying for the Cowboys. But it's literally historic. Week
twelve through Week seventeen, they play every team on their
schedule won eleven or more games last year. They play
on Thanksgiving, they play on Christmas, and there's two four
(36:39):
day breaks, like they have four days off between the
Eagles and Chiefs. I don't have the greatest memory in
the world, but those two teams were in the Super
Bowl last year. That's fairly difficult. Then four days off
between Chargers and Commanders, with that Commander's game being on.
Speaker 7 (36:54):
The road is remarkably difficult.
Speaker 15 (36:56):
So we knew the opponents ahead of time, but I
thought the sequencing for Dallas was absolutely brutal to finish
the season.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
So, you know, the Knicks game tonight can be one
of two things, historically great or a nightmare. I like
them tonight kind of your forecast, you're you're in the city,
your forecast for what we see tonight in an interesting series.
Speaker 15 (37:21):
I think the first quarter is gonna tell us a lot.
You know, this is objectively the biggest game at Madison
Square Garden since the Conference finals in two thousand. New
York is a basketball town. Just ask a New Yorker.
The Knicks are the one thing that really truly unites
the city because you know, Matts and Yankees, all the
different hockey teams, Jets and Giants. That's fairly well understood.
Whether you've spent a day here, an hour here, or
(37:42):
years and years your entire life here.
Speaker 7 (37:44):
It's a Knicks town.
Speaker 15 (37:46):
But Colin, you know this three to one can get
spun two different ways. If it's having thirteen times in
NBA history a team came back from down three to
one or a team collapsed from being up three to one.
When Will Ron came back from down three to one
against the Warriors, it's the single most impressive thing I've
(38:06):
ever seen in basketball. He does it against the super team.
He leads both teams in all five statistical categories. That
was framed as a comeback with Tatum rupturing his achilles.
Speaker 7 (38:17):
If the Knicks lose, this will be a choke.
Speaker 15 (38:20):
Now, maybe if Boston ends up winning the title, history
will be a little bit kinder to it. But in
the immediate aftermath, this will go up there as a
one of the great chokes in NBA playoff history and
one of the great chokes in New York's sports history.
You remember, of course, four Yankees Red Sox that's down
three to zero, they come back, the Bloody Sock Game,
(38:41):
Dave Roberts with the Steel Big Poppy, the MVP, Johnny Daman,
the Grand Slam. Three ones not as bad as three
to oh. But when the star player on the Celtics
ruptures and achilles, I'll just say the Knicks better come
out hot in the first quarter tonight, or that's going
to be a very very tense building over at the
world's most famous arena.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
I know this is it happened almost a week ago.
I didn't get your take on this. Nick and I
were aligned on this. I'm not listen. If the NBA
was going to rig things, they wouldn't have Zion going
to the Pelicans and Wemby.
Speaker 5 (39:14):
Going to the Spurs.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
What do you make of all the Cooper Flag Dallas
Maverick rig talk. I think it's ridiculous, But I am
in the minority.
Speaker 15 (39:23):
Apparently you're not in the minority. This is an internet creation.
Everything is a conspiracy on the Internet. It's not enough
to be like journalists were in the room and then
the NBA is like, okay, here's the video of the
ping pong balls coming out, and people are like, yeah,
you edited it, Like I don't. I honestly like don't
know what people need to see to believe, Like can
(39:48):
you reverse engineer it?
Speaker 7 (39:51):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 15 (39:51):
But if let's say the Spurs would have won the lottery,
you don't think people would have said, oh, it's rigged.
They want to take care of Greg Popovich's he transitions
to his role as president of basketball operations, and they
need Victor Webbin yamnna be good. So like Philadelphia big market,
Chicago big market, you can always attach a conspiracy to
the back end of an outlier event. And one point
(40:14):
eight percent is an outlier event. But it's not impossible.
It's one point eight percent, so of course it's not rigged.
It's objectively ridiculous. It is a little upsetting. Like I
will say that Nico Harris like like Nico Harrison didn't
deserve it, right, like MAVs fans deserve it. But the
thing that I more so than that it was rigged
(40:35):
talk I thought the most like objectionable thing was like
Miko Harrison gets the last laugh. Why because I because
pingballs bounced his way.
Speaker 7 (40:45):
Like to me, that was actually a worse take than
it was rigged.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
Great stuff.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Danny Parkins from Chicago now in New York, FS one
great see anybody.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
Have a good weekend.
Speaker 7 (40:56):
Let's talk anytime, Colin, Thank you.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
All right.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Danny's really interesting. I try to get him on the
volume as much as I can. Good storyteller, a lot
of background history in Chicago.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
Yeah, it's uh, it's uh. I just you know it's
I've said this before.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Bill Parcells used to say, don't draft a celebrity quarterback,
but you know, the world change. They're all celebrities now.
I mean, Shouldur Sanders is going to be a celebrity.
Now what you do with that celebrity? Arch Manning is
a celebrity. That's why he's been so understated.
Speaker 5 (41:22):
He won't talk. He's hiding because he.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Knows he's already going to be viewed as a Manning
and a celebrity. Should do or Sanders leaned into it,
turn people off. Caleb leaned into it, turned some off,
but he was so talented that he went number one.
At worst he was going to go to to Jayden Daniels. So,
you know, I think Caleb Williams is the reality of
what you're gonna see going forward. You're gonna see you're
(41:45):
gonna get big star quarterbacks. They're going to get paid.
I just read a story this morning driving to work.
I think I think Arch Manning is going to make
six million dollars this year at Texas. Like that's the
new reality. That's what they make. That's more than rookie
quarterbacks are going to make in many instances. In most instances,
because about twelve to thirteen quarterbacks get drafted a year,
(42:06):
eleven of those twelve or twelve of those thirteen are
not going to make six million dollars. And I also
think that benefits college football in the NFL, that some
of these quarterbacks that could come out may stand extra year.
You know, Andrew Luck could have come out, stayed in
extra year. Peyton Manning like the nil to me, the
I don't know if it was an intended benefit or not.
(42:26):
The benefit is stay in college another year is a
college basketball or college football player, and just get better
coaching and be more mature when you come out in season.
Speaker 5 (42:37):
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