December 11, 2024 • 40 mins
Colin talks about the resurgence of the running back in the NFL and why some of the disgruntled wide receivers across the league need a reality check
He believes Bill Belichick would be a disaster as a college head coach
Colin hopes this latest LeBron James rumor isn't true
6-time Super Bowl champion Josh McDaniels joins the show to talk about the issues the Eagles are having on offense
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Oh, here we go. It is a Wednesday. We are
livebin Los Angeles. Sits The Herd. Wherever you may be
and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us
part of your day. Jamak, we are packed today. Josh
McDaniels former you know legend in New England. Albert breerstoffs
by today some breaking stuff. Mark Sanchez stops by as well.
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And uh, you know, for years and years I had
talked about wide receivers. Chris Carter used to give me
crap for this being overrated. I said, a football team's
a cake. They're the icing there. It makes it better,
but it's not essential to the cake.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
And then.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Clearly because the rule changes, receivers became more valuable. But
about six months ago you suggested that we could have
You've heard of housing bubbles. You said, wide receiver Bubble,
and I think you were onto something you think maybe huh,
I think you were, so I want to start with that.
Today forty nine ers brought Purty. The quarterback says, oh,
I love Deebo Samuel the wide receiver. Here we go again,
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another high maintenance wide receiver that the quarterback has to
make sure he's happy, Like aj Brown and Philly and
Debo and elite neighbors earlier in the year with the
Giants and DeVante Adams with Crypton's cryptic messages when he
was a Raider, and I like Davante, but Ceedee Lamb
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is perpetually unhappy. And George Pickens and Deontay Johnson, even
Jamar Chase, who I love, made noise this year. Oh,
by the way, the top five rushing teams rushing teams
in the NFL Philly, Baltimore, Washington, Detroit and the Packers
are forty eight seventeen. Hey, receivers, we gave you a
couple of years to be stars and you wasted it.
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Complaining the world changes quickly. Nine months ago, all we
heard is the media lament the future of running backs.
Nobody wants to pay a running back running back saying
nobody loves us today. Power running football is back Detroit, Baltimore,
Green Bay. Wide receivers have become once again flashy sports cars,
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really expensive, high maintenance. You buy one and you find
out they're not great in winter months and they're not
something you could drive every day. Meanwhile, there are running
backs all weather, power, economical, low maintenance grinders add toughness
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and leadership to locker rooms. Yes, occasionally you will get
a running back that's got some flash, Kyron Williams of
the Rams, Christian McCaffrey, Saquon Barkley. But six of the
top ten wide receivers in the NFL, six of ten
leading in wide receiver yards are on teams with losing records,
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loud and losing. And once again, whether it's Philly, or
it's San Francisco or it's Dallas, it's this constant need
look at me. Let's make sure the wide receiver is healthy.
I don't get that with Saquon. I don't get it
with Derrick Henry. I don't get it with James Connor
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and Arizona. I don't get it with Walker and Seattle.
They're grinders. Head down, you give me the ball, I'll
produce all block. I'll take on a run. I'll take
on a Mike linebacker coming a million miles an hour
to protect my quarterback. And I like Deebo Samuel, but
in six NFL seasons he's only had two years of
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a thousand plus yards. Derrick Henry seven straight seasons of
one thousand plus yards. And whereas running backs when they're good,
make a quarterback's job easier, wide receivers, when they're good,
often need to be constantly soothed and pampered and taken
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care of. I mean, the AJ Brown situation is ridiculous.
Your team's on a heater. Saquon Barkley should be arguably MVP.
And you want more targets, you're getting seven. Okay, we'll
give you nine. And I like a lot of the receivers,
but I always felt in this league that they were
the icing to the cake. Saquon Barkley's the cake, Christian
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McCaffrey's the cake, Dereck Henry's the cake. And that doesn't
mean I don't like wide receivers, but how many times
do we see this winning teams having to make sure
the wide receiver's healthy. What's interesting about debo. My favorite
debo is after the catch and when he plays running back.
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So when the receiver de Bo becomes the running back
de Bo, I like it more so. I think it's
just a very interesting The world changes quickly. And if
you look at the teams now with power run games,
always a quarterback's best friend. It's Baltimore, it's Philly, it's Detroit,
it's Washington, it's Green Bay. Running backs are back, all weather, economical, tough,
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quarterback's best friend. All right, So nobody wants any sportscaster
to sit on the fence, right, Well, what's the point?
You got to pick a side on stuff? Right? And
I'm just going to tell you when the story keeps
coming out today that Belichick and Carol are close to
joining forces to be the coach of the tar Heels,
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my takeaway in my opinion is it's eventually going to
be a disaster. Let's start with this. He's seventy two, yeah,
and his personality is formed. He's got no charisma. He's
trying on the other network, but he doesn't have any charisma.
And college football Dan Lanning big energy, good looking, confident,
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young sark salesman, Saban charming, Kirby smart, likewise, Marcus Freeman
good looking, cool, Jim Harbaugh totally authentic, full of energy.
Pete Carroll at USC, I mean he hit you like
a strong drink man. He was coming at you one
hundred miles an hour, chewing that gum. Good looking guy.
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I'm going to change your life. The players choose you
in college football in today's nil Bill's patriot way. Hey
take a little less for the team. Yeah, that's not happening.
That's not happening. So that's the number one reason Belichick,
in my opinion, seemed a little out of touch dealing
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with twenty seven to twenty eight, twenty nine year olds
his last three years in pro football. Now he's dealing
with seventeen and eighteen year olds. So that's the first part.
The second part is, and this is true in a
lot of universities, but it's really true at Carolina. The
administration at Carolina right now is a little bit of
a mess. Academics one side, sports and the other. This
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is a proud university that's rival is the academic power Duke,
So they don't want to take a second fiddle to anybody.
So North Carolina is serious about academics, and there's a
lot of pushback upstairs in the academic world to the
sports world and the football program. And by the way,
what's interesting is the top college football agent is Jimmy Sexton.
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He is a power broker. Why is it he's sending
his candidates to Carolina? Why are like second tier candidates
backing out? Agents will tell you the truth where they
send their people. If they start, If top agents in
any industry start sending their people to certain locations it
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or not sending people to certain locations, it tells you everything.
Why isn't Jimmy Sexton send it all of his great
clients to Carolina because it is a top twenty twenty
five job. So and the third thing is I think
it's all about Bill Belichick wanting to give this job
to his son in like a year. I think he's
going to get worn out a year in and say
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I want to give it to my son, which, by
the way, I get it. I'm a dad, totally get it.
But whereas Dion Sanders went to Colorado and he was
about attitude us noticing a program that was irrelevant, swag confidence,
and I truly do believe that Dion Sanders really does
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care about elevating young men. To me, Belichick cares about
elevating one young man, his son. And I get it,
I really do. But that's not why you take a job,
right Like I think Dion to Colorado works because I
think he's a When it comes to Dion and what
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he really wants to do, he got the bag. He's
the greatest cornerback of all time. He wanted to change
some lives, including his son, not just his son, and
so I don't buy it. I'm not sitting on the fence.
Michael Irvin, who was so good yesterday on our show,
The Playmaker, Former Cowboy, his thoughts on Belichick and Carolina.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
The current landscape of college football is a lot different
then even when Jimmy was in college. You know, so
much different right then. You know Jimmy can really use
the hammer to keep you alive. I just don't know
if coach has the time to to counsel, and that's
what it's going to take. That's what make Dion so
great in college. He's really a mentor. Coaching coach is
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a coach that has forced a mentor. It's a lot
dealing with kids in there and I just think it's
it's yeah, that's not what coach want to be doing.
He wants to coach football.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah, college football has gotten harder for college football coaches
in the last five to ten years. I'd argue the NFL,
though the owners are crazier and richer than ever, is
easier because there's more really good quarterbacks and really talented
offensive play callers and play designers. So for a head
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coach in the NFL, you don't have to be a
wizard's comandically all sorts of very talented young coaches all
over the NFL, and that league has a pension for coaches,
so it's a much better place to be an assistant
than college football. This doesn't work to me. It may
make headlines, it may feel right for about six games
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or six months. I don't think it works. J Mack disagrees.
We have some stories today. I have two potential very
unpopular opinion only two, only two today. It's gonna be tough.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
To top yesterdays show, Colins. It was very strong, one
of the better Tuesday shows. Well, you talked a lot,
so I think you liked yesterday.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
No, that's what the people want.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
You got to get the people with the right combative
j Mac versus coastal elite Colins.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah, it was something like that.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
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Speaker 1 (11:39):
So I'm hoping this story is not true, but it
comes from an NBA website called Clutch Points, and it
says today sources close to the Lakers say that if
James asked the Lakers to trade him and his names
swirling around trade deadlines in like February, uh, they would
work to defind Lebron a deal where he'd rather be.
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But it is believed James would only go if Bronnie,
James's son would be part of the deal. So that's weak.
I mean, the moment Lebron made playing with his son
a priority, he probably punted on winning any more titles.
So let's just be honest about this. Bronni's not an
NBA player. He's not he's not a primary ball handler,
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he's not a shooting guard. He's tiny. He's athletic, but
everybody in the league's athletic. He's not an NBA player,
So I basically I totally supported Lebron again with his
son in this that moment the first night they played together.
Totally supported it. But we got to stop pretending here.
This is getting Globe Trotter level. Sticky Brownie's not an
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NBA player, He's a G League player, and he's not
a dominant G League player. He's not even a very
good G League player. So and he wasn't a very
good college player on a solid program, not a great one.
So again, if Bronny and Braun were playing at the
UCLA gym here five minutes from where I sit, and
it was August and we all had our iPhones out,
that's awesome. But trying to force us to believe like
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this is a real thing, we got to stop pretending
it's inauthentic. It's just not good. And listen, NBA stars
have always aged strangely. Michael Jordan was on the Wizards.
He was cranky and didn't get along with his Washington teammates.
Mellow was sending us random videos from gym's wherever, seeing
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he could make another roster. Shaq was on three teams
in three seasons, and Lebron's trying to make us believe
that Browny's an NBA player. He's a nice kid, and
he's athletic, but he's a six to one non point guard.
They do not exist. That would be like saying a
really super slow wide receiver, they don't exist in the league.
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And so I mean, listen, I'm not trying to be mean,
but have we gone from the decision to the delusion?
If this story is true? And I don't think the
Lakers should trade Lebron because the attendance is still good.
He's the second best player on the team. He's a playmaker,
and outside of Austin Reeves, they don't have another. So
I think trading Lebron is ridiculous. But the Lakers have
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sort of allowed this, and there's where we stand now.
He's at the center of trade rumors, and uh, it
just feels terribly inauthentic. I can be okay with a moment,
but not think it's a movement. Right, there's a lot
of moments I support. They don't need to be movements,
and I think it's just inauthentic to to try to
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make this a package deal would be saying, hey, both
or what another team wanted. And I think Lebron at
this point has a very limited market. I don't think
Brony has one at all. Just being real here, J
Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
No, no, no, this is the herd Line news.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
All right, we have a big one Thursday, Rams Niners.
The Niners backs against the Wall, losing.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
It's over.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
The Seahawks have a lead in the division, and San
Francisco six and seven. Listen, it's been an injury plague season.
Brock Perty, however, says, there's one way.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
For San Francisco to play the rest of the.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Year where we're at now.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
It can't be what is the end going to look like?
It has to be we have to take care of
business today and then tomorrow and then when the game comes,
take care of each play and drive and quarter. It's
just being in the moment, man, and not looking too
far ahead. And so with that comes, you know, playing
together as a team and playing desperate because we don't
have room to lose or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
So that's just where we're at. I like the Niners
close seven twenty four. I think this is their season,
and I think it's really hard after you play Buffalo
and play a perfect football game to duplicate it for
the Rams. They played as well as any team is
played for three and a half hours this season. They
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were virtually perfect blocked, not mistackles, I mean Matt Stafford
seven on seven drill. They ran the ball, they threw
it deep underneath, no drop passes. I mean the Rams
put on a clinic on how to play pro football.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
I would agree the Niners of the side here. You
know what I like, though, is this leadership we're hearing
from Brock Purdy at the podium, hat on forward.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
I did like that in I did like that. I've
said before. His intangibles are excellent. Off the charts, hat
straight ahead, looking to the future.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Are you getting Are you getting to the point where
you're okapaying him forty million year? Yes?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I think I think Brock Purty deserves something, But I
think the team has a lot of leverage too. Explain well,
go to his last twelve starts and look at his record.
Look at his record when he doesn't have Christian McCaffrey.
Trent Williams is getting old, so it would be it
would be better served to have a bigger, more mobile
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quarterback than a smallish quarterback. I'm losing the best left
tackle in a decade. A lot of things here that
worry me, but he is.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
So without the coming into the season the greatest running
back in the league.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Yeah, he didn't play well.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Boy, you know I'm not a good fighter with one
hand tie behind my back. Colin and oh, by the way,
Trent Williams missing time? Hey, a boat's out a yuke?
I mean Jordan Nason, the backup running back who looked.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
For Jalen Hurts, was almost an MVP without sakuon Barks.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Jalen Hurts lost a j Brown for a game and
they got destroyed by Tampa earlier this season.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Ok, kamp is good. Damn's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Team this whole Like, look at his stats.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
Come on, Mahad, We're not going to do this, are we?
You don't really want to pay Rockberty.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I am willing to pay him well below, I would say.
Daniel Jones area.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
K kirk Cousins coming off and Achilles got like forty five?
Is he getting that?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Kirk Cousins wins and ks want kirk Cousins has he
He will be in the NFL record book multiple times
for what for feeling my fleation percentage yards.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Off the top of your head, give me the most
memorable Kirk Cousins playoff victory.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
The miracle, the Minnesota miracle was isn't that him? Maybe
I'm wrong. I don't think that was. I think or something.
Kirk Cousins plays in the vicinity that very close.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
But Kirk Cousins, like Brock pretty had two game winning
drives last year against your Packers and your Lions in
the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
He was clutch. Yeah, that's the side. People for Colins
ready to move on.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
He doesn't like talking about rock Perty.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Next story, You're gonna love this.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Caitlin Clark has been named Times Athlete of the Year.
What a tremendous rookie season dominated the w NBA.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
You could argue she should have been the MVP. Whatever,
I'm not gonna argue with that.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Set in w NBA record for assists for the most
points by a Guarden single season WNBA history.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
And she plays really kind of an NBA game, good handles,
step back, three, NBA shooting range. I mean, she's really
a clever, dynamic player. And I unlike the rest of America,
am okay with some of the chippy played toward her,
because I think that is what Larry Bird faced and
Michael Jordan faced. I think it's what Bryce Harper faced.
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I think the ultimate sign of respect for women's sports
is to not pander and appreciate the fact that women's
basketball is really feisty and physical like men's basketball is.
Let's not pander. She had to deal with the same
stuff that all young stars getting tons of publicity had
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to deal with. MJ got a Detroit tackled him for
four years.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Actually that was a little different. That was the Jordan
rules because he was utterly dominant. Well, go look at
her after the first ten games, and guess.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
What the league did.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
They basically made the Jordan rules go away because that
wasn't good.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Drada after several years.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
After several years, but still they were like, oh the
slow to react, David Stern.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Are too many people in the media pander to women sports?
The ultimate respect is saying they belong. I did ten
Caitlin Clark segments and I monitor all of them and
they all rated, Yeah, that's respect. Stop this whole feisty thing.
Angel her and Angel Reese her rivals. They're both awesome.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
How are they rivals? Kitlin Clark's dominated her head to head.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
Angel.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Rebounding records as a rookie. She's a which's a different dad.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
She can't make a shout outside the lane. There's no
rivalry there either.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Well, I mean, I'm not wrong, That's what I'm saying.
But Angel Reese is part of this too. You got
Bird needed magic and vice versa. You need a rival
and I think Angel Reese is a different player. She's feisty,
She's an interior player. Caitlyn's a perimeter player.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
He could add disrespectful to Angel Reese. He's disrespectful to
Kaitlin Clark. And you don't see Clark act in that
way to Reaca.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Well, and there's an old saying you never want to
punch down. And Caitlyn is viewed as the superstar, Angel
Reese is viewed as the star.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Are Ages is really good, She's a very good place.
She's just not that's not being mean reality.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
I'm sorry, you know if you guys want to dispute it,
But like I just I'm very curious what the what
the sophomore season is, Like we were talking about a
sophomore sluck time, but also do you expect like a
pullback in you know, ticket sales, TV ratings, all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Up, up, up up up. Oh, Taani's gonna not get
less popular. Well, Tony just.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
Won the World Series, so the Dodgers are at the top.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Up up, up up. Aaron Judge gets more popular every year.
In New York, Mahomes gets more popular every year. Why
is Kaitlyn Clark going backwards?
Speaker 5 (21:38):
So when the schedule comes out, you want to go
to a Kaitlyn.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
No problem, don't if I can get a ticket.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Well, we know some people.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
You know, you may I don't know anybody.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
You know people, But no Caitlin Clark versus the La Sparks.
They got a good team, they just didn't play well
this year injuries. Yeah, maybe we'll go to a game
down here in La.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
It's fun.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
I'm down here in LA's it's fun.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Let's go to the final story, and that is how
about this?
Speaker 4 (22:00):
In college football? Old miss is playing Duke in the
Gator Bowl. Are you ready for this? Duke's quarterback Malik Murphy,
the kid who was at Texas Well, I think he
was a five star recruit. He just set a Duke
record for touchdown passes in a season. And he's not
playing in the bowl game because he's in the transfer
portal again.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
So stupid.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Well, well, we'll talk about this in a second.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Ole Miss coach Lane Kiffin is not thrilled with the situation.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
Me just think, get the NFL, you know, getting ready
for the AFC NFC playoffs postseason, and players are you know,
in free agency already.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
So it's really poor system.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
But we just try to manage the best we can
through it and hopefully someday I'll get fixed.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah, Lane Kiffin is right. It's ridiculous that you can
transfer as you go into bowls and playoffs. Even the
NFL has like boundaries on when you can do things
you have to. I don't have any problem transferring, not
during the season, when the season is complete, after the
playoff and ball system, then transfer for the next six months.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Okay, So let me ask you this. The Gator Bowl
is not part of the playoffs. It is an irrelevant
exhibition football. All balls nothing.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
All balls, and playoffs have to be done before you
get transfers, All balls done, all playoffs done. Well, should
you be should you have be able to trade players
in the NFL? Well, Carolina is not in the playoffs.
They can trade right now, even though there's a playoffs
going on. Everybody plays under the same trading rules, the
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same transfer I.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
Think the trade deadline in the NFL is silly.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
They need to push it way back yet, Why why
shouldn't Carolina. Hey, our season's over, we're gonna tank. Yeah,
we'll give up players. You want them on the everybody
play take them. Anybody has schedules. Our show is on
a schedule. It's nine to noon Pacific. We have a schedule.
We have to show up at times. That's the way
the world works. It can't just be.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
I'm gonna do what I want to do when i
want to do it. That's not the way that your
kids have a curfew. Your kids have school at a
certain time. The buses come at a certain time.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
Totally different. Unfortunately, call it.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Let's say they expanded the playoff from twelve to thirty
six and the Gator Bowl was in the playoff. Would
this kid be transferring or would he say, shoot, we're
in the playoff at the title.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
If you looked actually at the college football playoff contract,
it will never be thirty sixteen. It will expand to
fourteen at most, potentially in the next three years. It
is a small playoff. There's a smaller number of bowl games.
No transferring until everybody's season is complete. So therefore, you
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can't punish the good programs whose coaches are coaching games
and give the lousy programs an advantage to be recruiting NonStop.
Everybody has to play under certain guidelines. That's reasonable in
any business.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
But hold on, does the same apply to coaches? If
this coach of Duke Cutcliffe all of a sudden wants
to leave next week.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
He can leave ball games happening.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
I don't care about. A CEO is different than an
employee for the structure and foundation of a eight hundred
thousand dollars program. If somebody fires a coach, like a
player could quit a team, we're just saying you can't
go to another one. Coaches come and go. They're not players,
they're not even Nick Saban is more valuable than any
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college player ever.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Right, But these guys going into the portal, they can't
play in boguing.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
If you want to transfer, great, you can't land anywhere
until the season is over. Is reasonable.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
That makes sense, But I guess the argument would be, well,
wait a second, it's an arms race.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
If we all enter at.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
The exact same time, races between countries, have treaties. Everything
has rules, even war there's NATO rules, there's wartime rules,
like there's things you can't break. That's called organizational you know, consistency.
Jmckle the news.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the herd.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Here's an unpopular opinion. The Yankees didn't necessarily need Juan Soto.
The Mets needed him more to be relevant. And oh,
by the way, the Yankees yesterday went and signed left
hander Max Freed from Atlanta. He's really good and he'll
probably win more games than Juan Soto would have. I
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said this yesterday, go spend your money elsewhere. Well, he's
thirty years old and it's a long deal. That's called
Major rig Baseball. The way to beat the Dodgers is
a top pitcher that can get out Freddie Freeman, Mookie Betts,
and Otani and Max Freed against Betts owns him. Mookie
Betts is two for thirty against Max Freed, and Freddie
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Freeman is two of thirteen. That's how you beat the Dodgers.
Garrett Cole gave the Dodgers trouble. Nobody else on the
staff did. They all got shelled. Power hitters didn't beat
the Dodgers. Aaron Judge was irrelevant, Manny Machado, Francisco Lynn Door.
The Yankees need more arms. Trying to beat the Dodgers
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with hitting is like trying to beat the KD STEPH
Warriors at three point shooting. You're not going to I mean,
good god. The National League Championship Series MVP for the
Dodgers was Tommy Edmond, who would bat eighth or ninth.
You're not beating the Dodgers at the plate. But Garrett
Cole in the two games he started, was excellent and
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slowed them down. So this idea that won soda. You
got Stanton and you got Aaron Judge. You got more
than enough power. If you to sign Soto, you're not
signing this excellent pitcher. Yes he's thirty, and yes that's
a long contract for a thirty year old, but let's
be honest, baseball, everybody's signing eight year deals. So the
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Yankees need more elite starters, not a seven hundred million
dollar power hitter. By the way, Soto's contract would have
been like double what Aaron Judge makes. That would have
been a weird vibe in New York. You don't think
that would have been a weird vibe. So I said
this yesterday. You can look at the Wan Soto thing.
Oh this is terrible. I think he's a better fit
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with the Mets in the same you know side as
the Dodgers. If you want to get to a World Series,
the Mets may need Juan Soto. I don't think the
Yankees do. They've got power hitters. What they need is
more depth of pitching. You're not going to out hit
the Dodgers. That's not it. That's not gonna work. Here's
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Brian Cashman this morning on the MLB Network on missing
out on Wan Soto, a great player.
Speaker 8 (28:40):
From the Yankee standpoint, you no retreat, no surrender. We
get back after it and find a way to put
together a roster that our fans are going to be
excited about and we think, you know, we'll take us
a chance another We want to defend that American League
title and get back in the World Series and try
to win it.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah. I said yesterday, you just saved yourself a lot
of money. Get a better staff, get it back. I mean,
the Dodgers pitching staff was so deep in the bullpen.
The Podres were red hot. The Dodgers threw a bullpen
game and like eight different guys through an inning and
shut them out. They were winning bullpen games against elite
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teams in the playoffs. So and you're not getting I mean,
if Max Munsey bets Freeman, Tommy Edmund, Oh Tawny, it's
just an endless stream of elite hitters. You're not out
hitting the Dodgers, all right, and you're not out shooting
Katie Stephan the Warriors. There was ways to beat him,
that wasn't it all right? Josh McDaniels is coming up
(29:44):
in studio.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
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Speaker 1 (29:50):
Six Super Bowl rings. Fourteen years offensive coordinator, four years
as a head coach. What a pleasure to have Josh
McDaniels back. There's so many things today I want to
touch on it. I said this as that for years,
I was sort of like, the cake is the quarterback,
left tackle, the run game, the D line, the O line.
Receivers are the icing. They make it fun, yep, but
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they're not essential. And then the rule changes and then
they became more essential. But I'm looking at the resurgence
of running backs Baltimore, Green Bay, Detroit, Washington Power teams.
It's a cyclical league. In the last year and a half,
something has happened where teams now are moving back to
the run game.
Speaker 7 (30:33):
Why yeah, I think in many regards, it's the defense's
response to those elite players on the outside. And when
there's more safeties in the deep part of the field
and less people down near the line of scrimmage, there's
just less things you can do to get those guys
the ball, and so the guy that's standing by the
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quarterback or behind the quarterback becomes more valuable because honestly,
that's the right thing to do. When there's a light
box or a fair fight inside, you give those guys
the ball. And you can see there's a lot of
great running backs in this league, right you know, I
don't think they should be devalued, but you know, based
on how defenses are defending, you know, teams and offenses,
I think they've become more valuable as we're seeing right now.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Historically, receivers have been noisier and more verbal. I've always
said they're kind of the pro basketball players of football.
They break the huddle. First, it's one on one. They're
often the biggest, longest athlete. They want the ball and
I get it, yep. But like in Philadelphia, now, now
we got an issue. We're red hot, We're clearly off
the by Josh, we're gonna throw less, We're gonna run more.
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The centerpiece is saque. It's working. How would you quiet
the locker room? There are increasing stories brandon Ingram Jalen.
You know, Dak and Dez had an issue in Dallas.
I thought made the right decision. They moved as out.
AJ Brown's really good. How do you quiet the noise
in season?
Speaker 7 (31:58):
Yeah? I think you. Look, you have to tell them
and show them. Honestly, showing them is more important than
telling them that you're interested in getting them the ball.
And the only reason you want them to have the
ball is because they're they're going to help your team
win more than any other player at that position. And
there's certain guys like AJ Brown and we just saw
one game on Monday night with Jamar and CD and
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you know the Justin Jefferson's in the world and these
guys that are they're elite players. They deserve to have
the ball as an offensive coordinator and the quarterback. You
want to get them the ball, but there's also a
lot of attention being paid to those guys. So look,
I think there's there's a balance there, you know, between
forcing it to them too much, where you know they're
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trying to take them out of the game, and now
you're you're just punting a lot, you know, and throwing
a lot of incomplete passes and not getting them the
ball at all. And so I think you just try
to find the balance, you know, keep them, keep them
involved early in the game. I think that's important is
to get them involved right away, just so they touch
the football, they're in the flow of the game. And
then the design of the off when you are throwing
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the ball, you know it should go through those guys.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
It just should. So there are decisions. Russell Wilson is
I would say there's a resurgence, but he was seen
as a declining player in Denver. Kirk Cousins appears to
be declining fast. Brady was remarkably able to stay at
a high level, and his decline was very very hard
to see. If you're i mean, you're like a master
(33:24):
at this, this may not something that you would talk
publicly about. But what would be the first thing you
would see with a quarterback and think whisper to Bill
or whisper to a coach. He doesn't have blank.
Speaker 7 (33:38):
Anymore, yeah, I think. And we didn't see it with Tommy. Yeah,
you know, and and he's rare as you know, I mean,
very want the rare. Yeah, you know, to me, if
if you start to feel like they don't want the hits,
you know, and the ball's kind of coming out maybe
earlier than it should be, Yeah, beat early because they
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just know what's about to come, you know, and hit
them in the in the chest or in the shoulder
or you know, those those start to accumulate over time
and they start to hurt more. And we were talking
about it, you know, the the NASCAR drivers that get
a little older that all of a sudden they start
to fall down the leaderboard and they're still driving for
the same organization. They're still doing the same thing.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Got four kids, Yes, right.
Speaker 7 (34:22):
There's a little bit more to drive for or play for.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Right.
Speaker 7 (34:26):
And I don't even know that anybody makes those decisions consciously.
I think it's almost a subconscious decision that your body
makes for you that you know, it may not want
to go through this anymore.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yeah, if you were in Chicago, so it structurally as
an organization on tilt. Give me the first thing. I'm
Caleb Williams. You walk into the room. What is the
first thing you do? Because he was struggling, ascending plateaued dropping.
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What's the first order of business to a talented young
quarterback to get him right?
Speaker 7 (35:06):
You're talking about right now.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Caleb Williams today walked in today today? How do you
get it back?
Speaker 7 (35:11):
What do you feel most comfortable doing? You know, I
ask you, Yeah, what do you feel most comfortable doing?
Because the offense isn't going to be very good doing
things that I like if you don't like them, right,
you know. And so I think the biggest thing you
have to do is what's in his bucket that he
feels really good about? And and you start with that
and honestly major in that. And then if if you say, hey,
(35:33):
I think there's a few things that would help us
as a team if we could add these to your bucket,
you know, and then at that point, you know, you've
got to have the conversation. And I think he deserves
to know why you want to do that. You know,
I think if we do this, that helps us get
the ball down the field more. We can get this
guy the ball if we do some you know, some
of this. But I think, to me, it has to
start with where he's comfortable. And look, these rookie quarterbacks,
(35:56):
as we've seen, there's been flashes of great play from.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
All and all of them have had bad days, that's right.
Speaker 7 (36:02):
And they all and some of them have hit like
a little bit of a lull or a wall, if
you will, and then you kind of got to get
get them back. And so I think to me, it
starts with what do you feel most comfortable doing on
a play to play basis, Let's do more of that.
Let's major in that and then see where we go
from there.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
So, in any industry, if something's viewed as a high
stress job, and there's a lot it could be a
fighter pilot, could be an astronaut, the company usually gives
you longer time to recover, right, And so let's let's
not perfectly analogous to football, But when you're the Chiefs
and every game, yep, it's a one score, one possession game,
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is it possible that it does wear on you over
the course of a season that you need some layups
in this league and they don't get any layups.
Speaker 7 (36:49):
Yeah, it can if you're focused on just the result.
I think if you're focusing on the process and that
team on Monday when they watch the film, that they're
playing pretty good football. And right now, based on all
of our injuries and in the situation the circumstances that
we have, this is this is the best we're gonna
(37:11):
do right now, you know what I mean, not saying
that we can't improve, but look, you know the days
of thinking you're going to go in there and score
forty every time, that's not right now, that's not this team.
You know now when they had Hollywood and Rashi and
you know, they were healthier and they lost Pachiko for
a while, and I mean, look, they've had to deal
with a lot of things.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
This year for three years.
Speaker 7 (37:32):
Yeah, they really have. And they've played more games than
everybody else. Yes too, So there look that happens that
happened to us in New England, where you just there's
a there's an attrition that takes over when you're the
team that's playing the final game of the season. So
I think, to me, I think they'll do a great
Andes does a phenomenal job always, but he'll keep it
in perspective. You know, there's value in winning close games.
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They're going to have to win them in January in
that fashion, and so I think his team is mentally
and physically tough, and for that, I think there's a
lot of positive.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Finally, we've seen Jordan Love of Green Bay and Jalen Hurts.
Both staffs have said we want you to throw less.
So Jordan loves getting in the twenty two to twenty
three attempts. In fact, anytime he's thrown over like thirty
thirty five in their own three And by the way,
it works and they have great running back. Yep, Philadelphia,
(38:22):
Jalen at thirty four, we get loose at twenty four.
We're great when you had Tom And even though Tom
is the most efficient and productive quarterback ever, was there
a number you looked at and you would be in
game thinking this isn't what I want. We're going too
many innings here because Tom was obsessed to begin with.
You know, like Tommy would just throw at fifty if
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you let him. Did you go into games or over
the course of a season, Okay, now we're in November.
Did you have a number as.
Speaker 7 (38:51):
Court depended on who we were playing? Okay, you know,
if you go into the game and you say, listen,
throwing the ball against Dwight Freenie in math this in
that pass rush, you know, fifty two times is not
a good idea. We need to run the ball, you know,
twenty eight thirty thirty two times for us to feel
better about controlling the game.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
Right.
Speaker 7 (39:11):
That's different. There were times where we played, you know,
the Baltimore Ravens, and we went into the game saying
we're definitely throwing at fifty five or more times. And
I think the decision during the week and the comfort
you get with it and you tell the team this
is how we're going to try to win. Yeah, well
he would, yeah, he would tell me that. You know, like,
I don't think we're going to make many yards running
the ball this week, you know, And you say, okay,
(39:33):
you know, well how many is too many?
Speaker 6 (39:35):
You know?
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Seven?
Speaker 7 (39:37):
You know, so so you just you just say, all right,
we're going to put all our eggs in this basket. Now,
you might design the offensive game plan a little differently,
you know, maybe a couple less down the field, throws
and more screens or something else that are extensions of
the running game. But that stopped the rush from becoming
a big factor. But I think what these teams are
after is complimentary football. Don't turn it over. Score score
(40:00):
points when we get our opportunities. Give the ball to
the back as much as we can, create some big
plays off the at and play action and then play
good defense.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Yeah, get a lead. Run games are great with the lead,
not just trailing. That's right, Great with the lead, that's right.
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Oh, here we go. It is a Wednesday. We are
livebin Los Angeles. Sits The Herd. Wherever you may be
and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us
part of your day. Jamak, we are packed today. Josh
McDaniels former you know legend in New England. Albert breerstoffs
by today some breaking stuff. Mark Sanchez stops by as well.
(00:48):
And uh, you know, for years and years I had
talked about wide receivers. Chris Carter used to give me
crap for this being overrated. I said, a football team's
a cake. They're the icing there. It makes it better,
but it's not essential to the cake.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
And then.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Clearly because the rule changes, receivers became more valuable. But
about six months ago you suggested that we could have
You've heard of housing bubbles. You said, wide receiver Bubble,
and I think you were onto something you think maybe huh,
I think you were, so I want to start with that.
Today forty nine ers brought Purty. The quarterback says, oh,
I love Deebo Samuel the wide receiver. Here we go again,
(01:31):
another high maintenance wide receiver that the quarterback has to
make sure he's happy, Like aj Brown and Philly and
Debo and elite neighbors earlier in the year with the
Giants and DeVante Adams with Crypton's cryptic messages when he
was a Raider, and I like Davante, but Ceedee Lamb
(01:52):
is perpetually unhappy. And George Pickens and Deontay Johnson, even
Jamar Chase, who I love, made noise this year. Oh,
by the way, the top five rushing teams rushing teams
in the NFL Philly, Baltimore, Washington, Detroit and the Packers
are forty eight seventeen. Hey, receivers, we gave you a
couple of years to be stars and you wasted it.
(02:15):
Complaining the world changes quickly. Nine months ago, all we
heard is the media lament the future of running backs.
Nobody wants to pay a running back running back saying
nobody loves us today. Power running football is back Detroit, Baltimore,
Green Bay. Wide receivers have become once again flashy sports cars,
(02:41):
really expensive, high maintenance. You buy one and you find
out they're not great in winter months and they're not
something you could drive every day. Meanwhile, there are running
backs all weather, power, economical, low maintenance grinders add toughness
(03:02):
and leadership to locker rooms. Yes, occasionally you will get
a running back that's got some flash, Kyron Williams of
the Rams, Christian McCaffrey, Saquon Barkley. But six of the
top ten wide receivers in the NFL, six of ten
leading in wide receiver yards are on teams with losing records,
(03:26):
loud and losing. And once again, whether it's Philly, or
it's San Francisco or it's Dallas, it's this constant need
look at me. Let's make sure the wide receiver is healthy.
I don't get that with Saquon. I don't get it
with Derrick Henry. I don't get it with James Connor
(03:50):
and Arizona. I don't get it with Walker and Seattle.
They're grinders. Head down, you give me the ball, I'll
produce all block. I'll take on a run. I'll take
on a Mike linebacker coming a million miles an hour
to protect my quarterback. And I like Deebo Samuel, but
in six NFL seasons he's only had two years of
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a thousand plus yards. Derrick Henry seven straight seasons of
one thousand plus yards. And whereas running backs when they're good,
make a quarterback's job easier, wide receivers, when they're good,
often need to be constantly soothed and pampered and taken
(04:33):
care of. I mean, the AJ Brown situation is ridiculous.
Your team's on a heater. Saquon Barkley should be arguably MVP.
And you want more targets, you're getting seven. Okay, we'll
give you nine. And I like a lot of the receivers,
but I always felt in this league that they were
the icing to the cake. Saquon Barkley's the cake, Christian
(04:55):
McCaffrey's the cake, Dereck Henry's the cake. And that doesn't
mean I don't like wide receivers, but how many times
do we see this winning teams having to make sure
the wide receiver's healthy. What's interesting about debo. My favorite
debo is after the catch and when he plays running back.
(05:15):
So when the receiver de Bo becomes the running back
de Bo, I like it more so. I think it's
just a very interesting The world changes quickly. And if
you look at the teams now with power run games,
always a quarterback's best friend. It's Baltimore, it's Philly, it's Detroit,
it's Washington, it's Green Bay. Running backs are back, all weather, economical, tough,
(05:42):
quarterback's best friend. All right, So nobody wants any sportscaster
to sit on the fence, right, Well, what's the point?
You got to pick a side on stuff? Right? And
I'm just going to tell you when the story keeps
coming out today that Belichick and Carol are close to
joining forces to be the coach of the tar Heels,
(06:04):
my takeaway in my opinion is it's eventually going to
be a disaster. Let's start with this. He's seventy two, yeah,
and his personality is formed. He's got no charisma. He's
trying on the other network, but he doesn't have any charisma.
And college football Dan Lanning big energy, good looking, confident,
(06:29):
young sark salesman, Saban charming, Kirby smart, likewise, Marcus Freeman
good looking, cool, Jim Harbaugh totally authentic, full of energy.
Pete Carroll at USC, I mean he hit you like
a strong drink man. He was coming at you one
hundred miles an hour, chewing that gum. Good looking guy.
(06:49):
I'm going to change your life. The players choose you
in college football in today's nil Bill's patriot way. Hey
take a little less for the team. Yeah, that's not happening.
That's not happening. So that's the number one reason Belichick,
in my opinion, seemed a little out of touch dealing
(07:12):
with twenty seven to twenty eight, twenty nine year olds
his last three years in pro football. Now he's dealing
with seventeen and eighteen year olds. So that's the first part.
The second part is, and this is true in a
lot of universities, but it's really true at Carolina. The
administration at Carolina right now is a little bit of
a mess. Academics one side, sports and the other. This
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is a proud university that's rival is the academic power Duke,
So they don't want to take a second fiddle to anybody.
So North Carolina is serious about academics, and there's a
lot of pushback upstairs in the academic world to the
sports world and the football program. And by the way,
what's interesting is the top college football agent is Jimmy Sexton.
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He is a power broker. Why is it he's sending
his candidates to Carolina? Why are like second tier candidates
backing out? Agents will tell you the truth where they
send their people. If they start, If top agents in
any industry start sending their people to certain locations it
(08:16):
or not sending people to certain locations, it tells you everything.
Why isn't Jimmy Sexton send it all of his great
clients to Carolina because it is a top twenty twenty
five job. So and the third thing is I think
it's all about Bill Belichick wanting to give this job
to his son in like a year. I think he's
going to get worn out a year in and say
(08:38):
I want to give it to my son, which, by
the way, I get it. I'm a dad, totally get it.
But whereas Dion Sanders went to Colorado and he was
about attitude us noticing a program that was irrelevant, swag confidence,
and I truly do believe that Dion Sanders really does
(09:01):
care about elevating young men. To me, Belichick cares about
elevating one young man, his son. And I get it,
I really do. But that's not why you take a job,
right Like I think Dion to Colorado works because I
think he's a When it comes to Dion and what
(09:23):
he really wants to do, he got the bag. He's
the greatest cornerback of all time. He wanted to change
some lives, including his son, not just his son, and
so I don't buy it. I'm not sitting on the fence.
Michael Irvin, who was so good yesterday on our show,
The Playmaker, Former Cowboy, his thoughts on Belichick and Carolina.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
The current landscape of college football is a lot different
then even when Jimmy was in college. You know, so
much different right then. You know Jimmy can really use
the hammer to keep you alive. I just don't know
if coach has the time to to counsel, and that's
what it's going to take. That's what make Dion so
great in college. He's really a mentor. Coaching coach is
(10:07):
a coach that has forced a mentor. It's a lot
dealing with kids in there and I just think it's
it's yeah, that's not what coach want to be doing.
He wants to coach football.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah, college football has gotten harder for college football coaches
in the last five to ten years. I'd argue the NFL,
though the owners are crazier and richer than ever, is
easier because there's more really good quarterbacks and really talented
offensive play callers and play designers. So for a head
(10:40):
coach in the NFL, you don't have to be a
wizard's comandically all sorts of very talented young coaches all
over the NFL, and that league has a pension for coaches,
so it's a much better place to be an assistant
than college football. This doesn't work to me. It may
make headlines, it may feel right for about six games
(11:00):
or six months. I don't think it works. J Mack disagrees.
We have some stories today. I have two potential very
unpopular opinion only two, only two today. It's gonna be tough.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
To top yesterdays show, Colins. It was very strong, one
of the better Tuesday shows. Well, you talked a lot,
so I think you liked yesterday.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
No, that's what the people want.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
You got to get the people with the right combative
j Mac versus coastal elite Colins.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah, it was something like that.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
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Speaker 1 (11:39):
So I'm hoping this story is not true, but it
comes from an NBA website called Clutch Points, and it
says today sources close to the Lakers say that if
James asked the Lakers to trade him and his names
swirling around trade deadlines in like February, uh, they would
work to defind Lebron a deal where he'd rather be.
(12:03):
But it is believed James would only go if Bronnie,
James's son would be part of the deal. So that's weak.
I mean, the moment Lebron made playing with his son
a priority, he probably punted on winning any more titles.
So let's just be honest about this. Bronni's not an
NBA player. He's not he's not a primary ball handler,
(12:27):
he's not a shooting guard. He's tiny. He's athletic, but
everybody in the league's athletic. He's not an NBA player,
So I basically I totally supported Lebron again with his
son in this that moment the first night they played together.
Totally supported it. But we got to stop pretending here.
This is getting Globe Trotter level. Sticky Brownie's not an
(12:50):
NBA player, He's a G League player, and he's not
a dominant G League player. He's not even a very
good G League player. So and he wasn't a very
good college player on a solid program, not a great one.
So again, if Bronny and Braun were playing at the
UCLA gym here five minutes from where I sit, and
it was August and we all had our iPhones out,
that's awesome. But trying to force us to believe like
(13:12):
this is a real thing, we got to stop pretending
it's inauthentic. It's just not good. And listen, NBA stars
have always aged strangely. Michael Jordan was on the Wizards.
He was cranky and didn't get along with his Washington teammates.
Mellow was sending us random videos from gym's wherever, seeing
(13:33):
he could make another roster. Shaq was on three teams
in three seasons, and Lebron's trying to make us believe
that Browny's an NBA player. He's a nice kid, and
he's athletic, but he's a six to one non point guard.
They do not exist. That would be like saying a
really super slow wide receiver, they don't exist in the league.
(13:56):
And so I mean, listen, I'm not trying to be mean,
but have we gone from the decision to the delusion?
If this story is true? And I don't think the
Lakers should trade Lebron because the attendance is still good.
He's the second best player on the team. He's a playmaker,
and outside of Austin Reeves, they don't have another. So
I think trading Lebron is ridiculous. But the Lakers have
(14:16):
sort of allowed this, and there's where we stand now.
He's at the center of trade rumors, and uh, it
just feels terribly inauthentic. I can be okay with a moment,
but not think it's a movement. Right, there's a lot
of moments I support. They don't need to be movements,
and I think it's just inauthentic to to try to
(14:37):
make this a package deal would be saying, hey, both
or what another team wanted. And I think Lebron at
this point has a very limited market. I don't think
Brony has one at all. Just being real here, J
Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
No, no, no, this is the herd Line news.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
All right, we have a big one Thursday, Rams Niners.
The Niners backs against the Wall, losing.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
It's over.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
The Seahawks have a lead in the division, and San
Francisco six and seven. Listen, it's been an injury plague season.
Brock Perty, however, says, there's one way.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
For San Francisco to play the rest of the.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Year where we're at now.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
It can't be what is the end going to look like?
It has to be we have to take care of
business today and then tomorrow and then when the game comes,
take care of each play and drive and quarter. It's
just being in the moment, man, and not looking too
far ahead. And so with that comes, you know, playing
together as a team and playing desperate because we don't
have room to lose or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
So that's just where we're at. I like the Niners
close seven twenty four. I think this is their season,
and I think it's really hard after you play Buffalo
and play a perfect football game to duplicate it for
the Rams. They played as well as any team is
played for three and a half hours this season. They
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were virtually perfect blocked, not mistackles, I mean Matt Stafford
seven on seven drill. They ran the ball, they threw
it deep underneath, no drop passes. I mean the Rams
put on a clinic on how to play pro football.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
I would agree the Niners of the side here. You
know what I like, though, is this leadership we're hearing
from Brock Purdy at the podium, hat on forward.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
I did like that in I did like that. I've
said before. His intangibles are excellent. Off the charts, hat
straight ahead, looking to the future.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Are you getting Are you getting to the point where
you're okapaying him forty million year? Yes?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I think I think Brock Purty deserves something, But I
think the team has a lot of leverage too. Explain well,
go to his last twelve starts and look at his record.
Look at his record when he doesn't have Christian McCaffrey.
Trent Williams is getting old, so it would be it
would be better served to have a bigger, more mobile
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quarterback than a smallish quarterback. I'm losing the best left
tackle in a decade. A lot of things here that
worry me, but he is.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
So without the coming into the season the greatest running
back in the league.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Yeah, he didn't play well.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Boy, you know I'm not a good fighter with one
hand tie behind my back. Colin and oh, by the way,
Trent Williams missing time? Hey, a boat's out a yuke?
I mean Jordan Nason, the backup running back who looked.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
For Jalen Hurts, was almost an MVP without sakuon Barks.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Jalen Hurts lost a j Brown for a game and
they got destroyed by Tampa earlier this season.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Ok, kamp is good. Damn's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Team this whole Like, look at his stats.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
Come on, Mahad, We're not going to do this, are we?
You don't really want to pay Rockberty.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I am willing to pay him well below, I would say.
Daniel Jones area.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
K kirk Cousins coming off and Achilles got like forty five?
Is he getting that?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Kirk Cousins wins and ks want kirk Cousins has he
He will be in the NFL record book multiple times
for what for feeling my fleation percentage yards.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Off the top of your head, give me the most
memorable Kirk Cousins playoff victory.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
The miracle, the Minnesota miracle was isn't that him? Maybe
I'm wrong. I don't think that was. I think or something.
Kirk Cousins plays in the vicinity that very close.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
But Kirk Cousins, like Brock pretty had two game winning
drives last year against your Packers and your Lions in
the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
He was clutch. Yeah, that's the side. People for Colins
ready to move on.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
He doesn't like talking about rock Perty.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Next story, You're gonna love this.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Caitlin Clark has been named Times Athlete of the Year.
What a tremendous rookie season dominated the w NBA.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
You could argue she should have been the MVP. Whatever,
I'm not gonna argue with that.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Set in w NBA record for assists for the most
points by a Guarden single season WNBA history.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
And she plays really kind of an NBA game, good handles,
step back, three, NBA shooting range. I mean, she's really
a clever, dynamic player. And I unlike the rest of America,
am okay with some of the chippy played toward her,
because I think that is what Larry Bird faced and
Michael Jordan faced. I think it's what Bryce Harper faced.
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I think the ultimate sign of respect for women's sports
is to not pander and appreciate the fact that women's
basketball is really feisty and physical like men's basketball is.
Let's not pander. She had to deal with the same
stuff that all young stars getting tons of publicity had
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to deal with. MJ got a Detroit tackled him for
four years.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Actually that was a little different. That was the Jordan
rules because he was utterly dominant. Well, go look at
her after the first ten games, and guess.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
What the league did.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
They basically made the Jordan rules go away because that
wasn't good.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Drada after several years.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
After several years, but still they were like, oh the
slow to react, David Stern.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Are too many people in the media pander to women sports?
The ultimate respect is saying they belong. I did ten
Caitlin Clark segments and I monitor all of them and
they all rated, Yeah, that's respect. Stop this whole feisty thing.
Angel her and Angel Reese her rivals. They're both awesome.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
How are they rivals? Kitlin Clark's dominated her head to head.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
Angel.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Rebounding records as a rookie. She's a which's a different dad.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
She can't make a shout outside the lane. There's no
rivalry there either.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Well, I mean, I'm not wrong, That's what I'm saying.
But Angel Reese is part of this too. You got
Bird needed magic and vice versa. You need a rival
and I think Angel Reese is a different player. She's feisty,
She's an interior player. Caitlyn's a perimeter player.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
He could add disrespectful to Angel Reese. He's disrespectful to
Kaitlin Clark. And you don't see Clark act in that
way to Reaca.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Well, and there's an old saying you never want to
punch down. And Caitlyn is viewed as the superstar, Angel
Reese is viewed as the star.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Are Ages is really good, She's a very good place.
She's just not that's not being mean reality.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
I'm sorry, you know if you guys want to dispute it,
But like I just I'm very curious what the what
the sophomore season is, Like we were talking about a
sophomore sluck time, but also do you expect like a
pullback in you know, ticket sales, TV ratings, all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Up, up, up up up. Oh, Taani's gonna not get
less popular. Well, Tony just.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
Won the World Series, so the Dodgers are at the top.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Up up, up up. Aaron Judge gets more popular every year.
In New York, Mahomes gets more popular every year. Why
is Kaitlyn Clark going backwards?
Speaker 5 (21:38):
So when the schedule comes out, you want to go
to a Kaitlyn.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
No problem, don't if I can get a ticket.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Well, we know some people.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
You know, you may I don't know anybody.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
You know people, But no Caitlin Clark versus the La Sparks.
They got a good team, they just didn't play well
this year injuries. Yeah, maybe we'll go to a game
down here in La.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
It's fun.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
I'm down here in LA's it's fun.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Let's go to the final story, and that is how
about this?
Speaker 4 (22:00):
In college football? Old miss is playing Duke in the
Gator Bowl. Are you ready for this? Duke's quarterback Malik Murphy,
the kid who was at Texas Well, I think he
was a five star recruit. He just set a Duke
record for touchdown passes in a season. And he's not
playing in the bowl game because he's in the transfer
portal again.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
So stupid.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Well, well, we'll talk about this in a second.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Ole Miss coach Lane Kiffin is not thrilled with the situation.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
Me just think, get the NFL, you know, getting ready
for the AFC NFC playoffs postseason, and players are you know,
in free agency already.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
So it's really poor system.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
But we just try to manage the best we can
through it and hopefully someday I'll get fixed.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah, Lane Kiffin is right. It's ridiculous that you can
transfer as you go into bowls and playoffs. Even the
NFL has like boundaries on when you can do things
you have to. I don't have any problem transferring, not
during the season, when the season is complete, after the
playoff and ball system, then transfer for the next six months.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Okay, So let me ask you this. The Gator Bowl
is not part of the playoffs. It is an irrelevant
exhibition football. All balls nothing.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
All balls, and playoffs have to be done before you
get transfers, All balls done, all playoffs done. Well, should
you be should you have be able to trade players
in the NFL? Well, Carolina is not in the playoffs.
They can trade right now, even though there's a playoffs
going on. Everybody plays under the same trading rules, the
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same transfer I.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
Think the trade deadline in the NFL is silly.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
They need to push it way back yet, Why why
shouldn't Carolina. Hey, our season's over, we're gonna tank. Yeah,
we'll give up players. You want them on the everybody
play take them. Anybody has schedules. Our show is on
a schedule. It's nine to noon Pacific. We have a schedule.
We have to show up at times. That's the way
the world works. It can't just be.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
I'm gonna do what I want to do when i
want to do it. That's not the way that your
kids have a curfew. Your kids have school at a
certain time. The buses come at a certain time.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
Totally different. Unfortunately, call it.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Let's say they expanded the playoff from twelve to thirty
six and the Gator Bowl was in the playoff. Would
this kid be transferring or would he say, shoot, we're
in the playoff at the title.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
If you looked actually at the college football playoff contract,
it will never be thirty sixteen. It will expand to
fourteen at most, potentially in the next three years. It
is a small playoff. There's a smaller number of bowl games.
No transferring until everybody's season is complete. So therefore, you
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can't punish the good programs whose coaches are coaching games
and give the lousy programs an advantage to be recruiting NonStop.
Everybody has to play under certain guidelines. That's reasonable in
any business.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
But hold on, does the same apply to coaches? If
this coach of Duke Cutcliffe all of a sudden wants
to leave next week.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
He can leave ball games happening.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
I don't care about. A CEO is different than an
employee for the structure and foundation of a eight hundred
thousand dollars program. If somebody fires a coach, like a
player could quit a team, we're just saying you can't
go to another one. Coaches come and go. They're not players,
they're not even Nick Saban is more valuable than any
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college player ever.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Right, But these guys going into the portal, they can't
play in boguing.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
If you want to transfer, great, you can't land anywhere
until the season is over. Is reasonable.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
That makes sense, But I guess the argument would be, well,
wait a second, it's an arms race.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
If we all enter at.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
The exact same time, races between countries, have treaties. Everything
has rules, even war there's NATO rules, there's wartime rules,
like there's things you can't break. That's called organizational you know, consistency.
Jmckle the news.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the herd.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Here's an unpopular opinion. The Yankees didn't necessarily need Juan Soto.
The Mets needed him more to be relevant. And oh,
by the way, the Yankees yesterday went and signed left
hander Max Freed from Atlanta. He's really good and he'll
probably win more games than Juan Soto would have. I
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said this yesterday, go spend your money elsewhere. Well, he's
thirty years old and it's a long deal. That's called
Major rig Baseball. The way to beat the Dodgers is
a top pitcher that can get out Freddie Freeman, Mookie Betts,
and Otani and Max Freed against Betts owns him. Mookie
Betts is two for thirty against Max Freed, and Freddie
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Freeman is two of thirteen. That's how you beat the Dodgers.
Garrett Cole gave the Dodgers trouble. Nobody else on the
staff did. They all got shelled. Power hitters didn't beat
the Dodgers. Aaron Judge was irrelevant, Manny Machado, Francisco Lynn Door.
The Yankees need more arms. Trying to beat the Dodgers
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with hitting is like trying to beat the KD STEPH
Warriors at three point shooting. You're not going to I mean,
good god. The National League Championship Series MVP for the
Dodgers was Tommy Edmond, who would bat eighth or ninth.
You're not beating the Dodgers at the plate. But Garrett
Cole in the two games he started, was excellent and
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slowed them down. So this idea that won soda. You
got Stanton and you got Aaron Judge. You got more
than enough power. If you to sign Soto, you're not
signing this excellent pitcher. Yes he's thirty, and yes that's
a long contract for a thirty year old, but let's
be honest, baseball, everybody's signing eight year deals. So the
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Yankees need more elite starters, not a seven hundred million
dollar power hitter. By the way, Soto's contract would have
been like double what Aaron Judge makes. That would have
been a weird vibe in New York. You don't think
that would have been a weird vibe. So I said
this yesterday. You can look at the Wan Soto thing.
Oh this is terrible. I think he's a better fit
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with the Mets in the same you know side as
the Dodgers. If you want to get to a World Series,
the Mets may need Juan Soto. I don't think the
Yankees do. They've got power hitters. What they need is
more depth of pitching. You're not going to out hit
the Dodgers. That's not it. That's not gonna work. Here's
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Brian Cashman this morning on the MLB Network on missing
out on Wan Soto, a great player.
Speaker 8 (28:40):
From the Yankee standpoint, you no retreat, no surrender. We
get back after it and find a way to put
together a roster that our fans are going to be
excited about and we think, you know, we'll take us
a chance another We want to defend that American League
title and get back in the World Series and try
to win it.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah. I said yesterday, you just saved yourself a lot
of money. Get a better staff, get it back. I mean,
the Dodgers pitching staff was so deep in the bullpen.
The Podres were red hot. The Dodgers threw a bullpen
game and like eight different guys through an inning and
shut them out. They were winning bullpen games against elite
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teams in the playoffs. So and you're not getting I mean,
if Max Munsey bets Freeman, Tommy Edmund, Oh Tawny, it's
just an endless stream of elite hitters. You're not out
hitting the Dodgers, all right, and you're not out shooting
Katie Stephan the Warriors. There was ways to beat him,
that wasn't it all right? Josh McDaniels is coming up
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in studio.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays
and noone Easter, not a im Pacific.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Six Super Bowl rings. Fourteen years offensive coordinator, four years
as a head coach. What a pleasure to have Josh
McDaniels back. There's so many things today I want to
touch on it. I said this as that for years,
I was sort of like, the cake is the quarterback,
left tackle, the run game, the D line, the O line.
Receivers are the icing. They make it fun, yep, but
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they're not essential. And then the rule changes and then
they became more essential. But I'm looking at the resurgence
of running backs Baltimore, Green Bay, Detroit, Washington Power teams.
It's a cyclical league. In the last year and a half,
something has happened where teams now are moving back to
the run game.
Speaker 7 (30:33):
Why yeah, I think in many regards, it's the defense's
response to those elite players on the outside. And when
there's more safeties in the deep part of the field
and less people down near the line of scrimmage, there's
just less things you can do to get those guys
the ball, and so the guy that's standing by the
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quarterback or behind the quarterback becomes more valuable because honestly,
that's the right thing to do. When there's a light
box or a fair fight inside, you give those guys
the ball. And you can see there's a lot of
great running backs in this league, right you know, I
don't think they should be devalued, but you know, based
on how defenses are defending, you know, teams and offenses,
I think they've become more valuable as we're seeing right now.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Historically, receivers have been noisier and more verbal. I've always
said they're kind of the pro basketball players of football.
They break the huddle. First, it's one on one. They're
often the biggest, longest athlete. They want the ball and
I get it, yep. But like in Philadelphia, now, now
we got an issue. We're red hot, We're clearly off
the by Josh, we're gonna throw less, We're gonna run more.
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The centerpiece is saque. It's working. How would you quiet
the locker room? There are increasing stories brandon Ingram Jalen.
You know, Dak and Dez had an issue in Dallas.
I thought made the right decision. They moved as out.
AJ Brown's really good. How do you quiet the noise
in season?
Speaker 7 (31:58):
Yeah? I think you. Look, you have to tell them
and show them. Honestly, showing them is more important than
telling them that you're interested in getting them the ball.
And the only reason you want them to have the
ball is because they're they're going to help your team
win more than any other player at that position. And
there's certain guys like AJ Brown and we just saw
one game on Monday night with Jamar and CD and
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you know the Justin Jefferson's in the world and these
guys that are they're elite players. They deserve to have
the ball as an offensive coordinator and the quarterback. You
want to get them the ball, but there's also a
lot of attention being paid to those guys. So look,
I think there's there's a balance there, you know, between
forcing it to them too much, where you know they're
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trying to take them out of the game, and now
you're you're just punting a lot, you know, and throwing
a lot of incomplete passes and not getting them the
ball at all. And so I think you just try
to find the balance, you know, keep them, keep them
involved early in the game. I think that's important is
to get them involved right away, just so they touch
the football, they're in the flow of the game. And
then the design of the off when you are throwing
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the ball, you know it should go through those guys.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
It just should. So there are decisions. Russell Wilson is
I would say there's a resurgence, but he was seen
as a declining player in Denver. Kirk Cousins appears to
be declining fast. Brady was remarkably able to stay at
a high level, and his decline was very very hard
to see. If you're i mean, you're like a master
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at this, this may not something that you would talk
publicly about. But what would be the first thing you
would see with a quarterback and think whisper to Bill
or whisper to a coach. He doesn't have blank.
Speaker 7 (33:38):
Anymore, yeah, I think. And we didn't see it with Tommy. Yeah,
you know, and and he's rare as you know, I mean,
very want the rare. Yeah, you know, to me, if
if you start to feel like they don't want the hits,
you know, and the ball's kind of coming out maybe
earlier than it should be, Yeah, beat early because they
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just know what's about to come, you know, and hit
them in the in the chest or in the shoulder
or you know, those those start to accumulate over time
and they start to hurt more. And we were talking
about it, you know, the the NASCAR drivers that get
a little older that all of a sudden they start
to fall down the leaderboard and they're still driving for
the same organization. They're still doing the same thing.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Got four kids, Yes, right.
Speaker 7 (34:22):
There's a little bit more to drive for or play for.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Right.
Speaker 7 (34:26):
And I don't even know that anybody makes those decisions consciously.
I think it's almost a subconscious decision that your body
makes for you that you know, it may not want
to go through this anymore.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yeah, if you were in Chicago, so it structurally as
an organization on tilt. Give me the first thing. I'm
Caleb Williams. You walk into the room. What is the
first thing you do? Because he was struggling, ascending plateaued dropping.
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What's the first order of business to a talented young
quarterback to get him right?
Speaker 7 (35:06):
You're talking about right now.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Caleb Williams today walked in today today? How do you
get it back?
Speaker 7 (35:11):
What do you feel most comfortable doing? You know, I
ask you, Yeah, what do you feel most comfortable doing?
Because the offense isn't going to be very good doing
things that I like if you don't like them, right,
you know. And so I think the biggest thing you
have to do is what's in his bucket that he
feels really good about? And and you start with that
and honestly major in that. And then if if you say, hey,
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I think there's a few things that would help us
as a team if we could add these to your bucket,
you know, and then at that point, you know, you've
got to have the conversation. And I think he deserves
to know why you want to do that. You know,
I think if we do this, that helps us get
the ball down the field more. We can get this
guy the ball if we do some you know, some
of this. But I think, to me, it has to
start with where he's comfortable. And look, these rookie quarterbacks,
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as we've seen, there's been flashes of great play from.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
All and all of them have had bad days, that's right.
Speaker 7 (36:02):
And they all and some of them have hit like
a little bit of a lull or a wall, if
you will, and then you kind of got to get
get them back. And so I think to me, it
starts with what do you feel most comfortable doing on
a play to play basis, Let's do more of that.
Let's major in that and then see where we go
from there.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
So, in any industry, if something's viewed as a high
stress job, and there's a lot it could be a
fighter pilot, could be an astronaut, the company usually gives
you longer time to recover, right, And so let's let's
not perfectly analogous to football, But when you're the Chiefs
and every game, yep, it's a one score, one possession game,
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is it possible that it does wear on you over
the course of a season that you need some layups
in this league and they don't get any layups.
Speaker 7 (36:49):
Yeah, it can if you're focused on just the result.
I think if you're focusing on the process and that
team on Monday when they watch the film, that they're
playing pretty good football. And right now, based on all
of our injuries and in the situation the circumstances that
we have, this is this is the best we're gonna
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do right now, you know what I mean, not saying
that we can't improve, but look, you know the days
of thinking you're going to go in there and score
forty every time, that's not right now, that's not this team.
You know now when they had Hollywood and Rashi and
you know, they were healthier and they lost Pachiko for
a while, and I mean, look, they've had to deal
with a lot of things.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
This year for three years.
Speaker 7 (37:32):
Yeah, they really have. And they've played more games than
everybody else. Yes too, So there look that happens that
happened to us in New England, where you just there's
a there's an attrition that takes over when you're the
team that's playing the final game of the season. So
I think, to me, I think they'll do a great
Andes does a phenomenal job always, but he'll keep it
in perspective. You know, there's value in winning close games.
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They're going to have to win them in January in
that fashion, and so I think his team is mentally
and physically tough, and for that, I think there's a
lot of positive.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Finally, we've seen Jordan Love of Green Bay and Jalen Hurts.
Both staffs have said we want you to throw less.
So Jordan loves getting in the twenty two to twenty
three attempts. In fact, anytime he's thrown over like thirty
thirty five in their own three And by the way,
it works and they have great running back. Yep, Philadelphia,
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Jalen at thirty four, we get loose at twenty four.
We're great when you had Tom And even though Tom
is the most efficient and productive quarterback ever, was there
a number you looked at and you would be in
game thinking this isn't what I want. We're going too
many innings here because Tom was obsessed to begin with.
You know, like Tommy would just throw at fifty if
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you let him. Did you go into games or over
the course of a season, Okay, now we're in November.
Did you have a number as.
Speaker 7 (38:51):
Court depended on who we were playing? Okay, you know,
if you go into the game and you say, listen,
throwing the ball against Dwight Freenie in math this in
that pass rush, you know, fifty two times is not
a good idea. We need to run the ball, you know,
twenty eight thirty thirty two times for us to feel
better about controlling the game.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
Right.
Speaker 7 (39:11):
That's different. There were times where we played, you know,
the Baltimore Ravens, and we went into the game saying
we're definitely throwing at fifty five or more times. And
I think the decision during the week and the comfort
you get with it and you tell the team this
is how we're going to try to win. Yeah, well
he would, yeah, he would tell me that. You know, like,
I don't think we're going to make many yards running
the ball this week, you know, And you say, okay,
(39:33):
you know, well how many is too many?
Speaker 6 (39:35):
You know?
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Seven?
Speaker 7 (39:37):
You know, so so you just you just say, all right,
we're going to put all our eggs in this basket. Now,
you might design the offensive game plan a little differently,
you know, maybe a couple less down the field, throws
and more screens or something else that are extensions of
the running game. But that stopped the rush from becoming
a big factor. But I think what these teams are
after is complimentary football. Don't turn it over. Score score
(40:00):
points when we get our opportunities. Give the ball to
the back as much as we can, create some big
plays off the at and play action and then play
good defense.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Yeah, get a lead. Run games are great with the lead,
not just trailing. That's right, Great with the lead, that's right.
Love having you on, man, I love being here.
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