October 14, 2024 • 39 mins
Colin explains why he's not surprised the Lions dominated the Cowboys and what Dallas needs to realize in order to get back into Super Bowl contention
The Dodgers are looking dominate with their pitching, which is a huge surprise
Colin gives his reasons why he doesn't trust the Eagles
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Here we go. It is a Monday and we are
Redded two roll live in Los Angeles. It's The Herd.
Wherever you may be and however you may be watching.
Thanks for making us part of your day. Well well, well,
we said before the weekend an oil leak would begin
this weekend with the Dallas Cowboys. My bad, it was
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a gusher. H Jmac. There are a lot of things
going on this weekend. The Dodgers have decided they're not
gonna allow any more scoring the rest of the play.
That's insane. Do you have a good weekend?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
The Palace football was a credit on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Phenomenal weekend, all right. Jerry Jones on his birthday that was,
believe it or not, the worst home loss of his
career on his eighty second Thursday. That's sand a lot
because Jerry's first year owning the Cowboys was nineteen eighty nine,
and they were one in fifteen, and they finished in
fifth place in the NFC East. You can't even do that.
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There is no fifth place in the NFC East. And
they were terrible, and that yesterday was a worst home loss.
They may be shrewd doing business off the field, but
they were shameful on the field. The NFL has gotten
smarter over the last decade, more good coaches, more sharp executives,
and the Cowboys, along that same timeline, have become much
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more insular. The only team in the NFL with an
eighty two year old GM wink wink, And he's not
firing Mike McCarthy. He's not gonna do that. We'll get
to that in a second, but that's not gonna work.
The Detroit Lions, though yesterday, were everything the Cowboys want
to be. Deep, tough, clever, fun, capable at quarterback. Nobody's
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massively overpaid. In fact, I'd argue many of their best
players are right now under market value. They were everything
the Cowboys want to be. In fact, their old line,
the Lions all line had two touches and a target.
I'm not like talking about falling on a fumble. These
were intentional. They were going to embarrass the Cowboys. It
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was like the Chiefs against the Saints. They were messing around,
flexing for the TV audience. After that Cowboy win shouldn't
have over Detroit last December. So, I mean, what you
were watching was embarrassing. That was embarrassing. And I said
it going into the season the super I can't take
the Cowboys seriously. If we can't take a team seriously
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with an eighty two year old owner, slash GM, too
many Joneses in the front office. You need outside influence
and eyeballs and voices. They're not a Super Bowl team.
They're not close to it. And the truth is, oh,
they won twelve games the last two years. Previous to
this one, the NFC's been down. Green Bay got rid
of Aaron Rodgers in a very quick rebuild with a
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young quarterback, and the Lions were good for a couple
of years. But now all those young players are no
longer young. The Niners ended up finding Brock Purty, who
just keeps getting better. You start look at Washington now
as a real football team. Oh, Minnesota, Chicago's got Caleb Williams.
It was there for the taking. The last two years
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in the NFC, it was there. The Rams were rebuilding,
the Packers were too young. You know, Chicago didn't have
the quarterback. Minnesota was trying to draft the quarterback. Now
the NFC at the top can play with the AFC.
And Dallas won twelve games. But the more Jerry dabbles
in football, the sadder January becomes for Dallas. You can't
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be an owner slash GM. That's just not the way
it works. Jerry's running the franchise the way he wants to,
not the way it should be run. The way it
should be run is San Francisco, so you can find
Brock Purdy with the last pick, or in Philadelphia where
they have a loaded roster and yet always have money
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to spend. That's the way it should be run. Or
like Kansas any year Baltimore. Why does Baltimore always have
so many good players that they can move off great
ones and the next year they're just fine. Dallas right now, Hey, hey,
Dak got the bag and Cowboy fans are left holding it.
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Here was Jerry on Testy tey Ta Ta with the
media in regard to potentially replace seeing Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Would it take you to evaluate making a head coaching
change in season?
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Oh, I haven't considered that. I'm not considering that.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
So you're clear.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
I'm not considering that, but you've done it. I wouldn't
be a hypothetical in that matter.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
Do you think I'm an idiot?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Do you? Now, let's move to a brighter conversation. I know,
I know, I know, I know. The Bears are just
beating bad teams. Yeah, they're kind of thumping them. I
know they've just beaten the Titans, Carolina, a short handed
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La Ram team, and the dysfunctional Jags. Okay, you could
say that. But for the first time, and I'm not
joking in my life, I look at the Bears and
I say, Man, what a deep, talented offensive roster. What
a stud they have at quarterback for the next fifteen years.
Yet that I've never said in my life. I'm three receivers.
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I like Keenan Allen came back, an excellent tight end,
a clever running back. The old line's fine. It's not
Detroit or Atlanta, but it's fine. And Caleb Williams are
getting better every week. I mean, he's gone from kind
of frenetic to foundational. If you go back our guys
did this morning, and I'm sorry to the radio audience,
but Caleb Williams, if you go a week one as
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passer reading was fifty five. Two weeks later it was eighty.
A week after that, it was one oh six. A
week after that it was one twenty six. And it
looks like this week at won twenty four, he's found
his footing reckless to in control questions, the confident and
in fact, my biggest concern seriously for the Chicago Bears.
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And I bet it's theirs. It's not the Bears, it's
the division. Minnesota looks like they could hoist a trophy
Green Bays just now that Jordan loves ready to roll.
That was our pick of the weekend. I mean that
game was over in ten minutes with Arizona. I mean,
Detroit has the best offensive line, two capable running backs,
a star receiver, a coach, and Dan Campbell. The team loves.
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Jared Goff's been to Super Bowls like I think Chicago's.
For years and years, Chicago's biggest liability was the Bears,
their ownership, their front office, their coaches. I mean even
Matt Eberflus. You can bang on them all you want,
but he's good on his side of the ball. At
least he knows his side of the ball. Go get
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Dennis Allen with the Saints. He can't even get the
defensive side right. And he's a defensive coach. So I mean,
I look around. They have the franchise quarterback they run.
I mean, seriously, this sounds embarrassing that they run a
modern offense. They've got multiple weapons, some of them young,
gonna be around a while. They made a smart move
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to get DJ Moore, and they nailed the quarterback pick.
For the record, this is what the good teams in
the AFC did. Baltimore got their quarterback right, Kansas City
got their quarterback right, Buffalo, oh got their quarterback right,
Houston got their quarterback right. You get that right, folks,
You could miss on a coach. You gotta get the
quarterback right now. I don't think there's any question when
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you latch those weapons. You got to give their GM
credit to Ryan Poles is a guy. He's a former
offensive lineman and he has spent the money. This forever
was a defensive culture like Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh still can't get
out of its own way. It spends all its money
on defense. Ryan Poles came out and said, no, no, no, no, no,
no no, We're gonna spend our money on offense. That's
where the league's going. And he was right. And they
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get Dj Moore and they get Keenan Allen in a
second tight end and Swift the running back. Like this
is a really big time offensive group. D you insert
Keenan Allen, this thing Roma duns a Dj Moore, cole Kament, Swift,
Keenan Allen, It's like whoa, They got dudes everywhere. It
is for real. You could open up the entire playbook
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because Caleb is so electric, so dynamic. But the difference
is he's not a guy that can't throw from the pocket.
He did that at USC. What did we say coming
into the season. He can be a little bit. You
gotta sometimes rain him in because he's so gifted. Lamar
Jackson faced this first couple of years, so gifted that
his natural inclination if the first receiver's not open is
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to takeoff and run. But on multiple times yesterday in London,
and I hope you noticed this, I'm sure you did.
Did you watch Caleb on multiple times. Look left, look middle,
look right, look back left. That's a franchise quarterback looked
all over the field trying to find the right guy.
He threw to the fourth or third option multiple times.
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A lot of great athletic quarterbacks. First one's not open.
As rookies, they're off to the races. And he now
over the four or five week. He was in the
first couple of weeks. Here we are in week five.
Here comes week six. You got yourself a stud and
here's Caleb after.
Speaker 7 (09:54):
You know, we gotta keep getting better.
Speaker 8 (09:56):
I can't.
Speaker 7 (09:56):
I can't turn the ball over, light down in the
wide open, uh.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Touchdown the DJ.
Speaker 7 (10:01):
You know a few things that are going on throughout
the game. You know that that I got to be
better at. But I think the progress that we've had
is is going to keep growing. I think we have
great leaders and a great personality this team that I've
talked about many times, and so I think all that's
gonna keep growing.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
I think we got to keep going.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah, that's a How about that division, Vikings, Packers, Lions Bears.
When's the last time you had a division? I can't
think of it. When is the last time that you
had a division with four of the top eight offensive
teams in the league. I mean, that is crazy that
that that is not only the best division in football,
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it is the best division in football by a mile.
It's incredible. How good Jordan Love, Caleb, Sam Darnold, JJ
McCarthy behind him and Jared Goff and by the way,
the best of offensive line in Detroit. I would say
Green Bay and Chicago, I mean and Minneso have some
of the best heighth end wide receiver groupings in the league.
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So I think the Bears biggest adversary isn't themselves. I
don't think it for the first time ever offensively, it's
not them or their ownership. It's like a real division.
By the way, the NFC North has the four best
point differentials in the league. All four Bears, Lions, Vikings,
Packer the four best point differentials in the league. They're
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all in one division. It's like the SEC on steroids.
I mean, it's crazy how good it is.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
J Mac.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Meanwhile, in Philadelphia, what a circus that organization is?
Speaker 5 (11:38):
That's your guy, Nick Sirianni, what a circus. Very rare.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Do you see a coach mouthing off to his own
fan base after a win like what what's wrong with
Nick Sirianni.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
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Speaker 1 (12:07):
Matt Hasselback and Colin was right, Colin was wrong, plenty
of both. So a stay away game for me. Whenever
I look at odds going into a weekend, whatever the
biggest spread is, I just get it out. Not that
it's a sucker bet, but Philadelphia was like an eight
eight and a half point favorite over dreadful Cleveland. Their shot.
The coach doesn't like the quarterback, but he has to
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take the sword for the owner who guaranteed the deal.
It's a mess of an organization with a really good
coach and I think a pretty sharp GM. And so
I stayed away because I don't trust Philadelphia. I've said
I think their coaches over his new unshaven head. That
was a If there's such thing as a bad win
in the NFL, that was it. Cleveland's awful. Siriani at
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one point is jousting with the home fans, and this
remains a confounding stat You should absolutely be terrified if
you're an Eagles fan off of ball with an offensive coach.
First two series, Jalen hurts, Oh for five to two punts.
They had both their receivers back. Sakuon Barkley's a stud
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offensive line is good enough. Lane Johnson said, our offense
is constipated. But you're at home a terrible team, offensive
coach at off of by a reeling team, both your
star receivers back in your first two drives. That's where coaches.
Offensive coaches off of bye, like. By the way, Sean
McVay is off a bye this week against the Raiders.
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Take Sean McVay like, take offensive coaches off by, especially
with the off of by at home against a reeling
team with a bad mojo in Cleveland, and they couldn't
muster with both aj Brown Deavonte Smith back. First two drives,
Oh for five Jalen hurts, those are scripted plays. He's
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over his skis. I don't know what to tell you.
They're great at running back, They're excellent wide receiver, they're
always good at tight end. The lines. Top ten offensive coach.
So this they don't have a Carolina issue where the
roster's bad or a cowboy issue upstairs is bad. I mean,
they're three and two completely on how talented their roster is,
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and they've done it with some injuries. There's a Super
Bowl roster and Nick Sirianni after jousting with home fans
when everybody knows there's been this question about his maturity,
and he brought his three kids to the press conference
after to be a bit of a buffer against the
usually relentless Philadelphia press.
Speaker 8 (14:36):
We thrive off the crowd when they cheer for us,
that's all sag. When our crowd cheers for us, we
thrive off them, you know. And you know we hear
them when they boo. We don't. We don't necessarily like it.
I don't think that's productive for anybody. But you know,
when they cheer for us, and when when we got
them rolling, you know, we love it.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I don't want to make this personal, but Sirianni reminds me,
you know, I think he he's a certain level of IQ,
but he reminds me of a crypto bro. But the
crash is coming, like, no, you can't do that. Like
like coaches, can you could you just say this out loud?
Can you imagine Andy Reid jousting regularly with fans? Hey
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J Mack with a news.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Turn on the news, this is the herd line news.
We were super stoked for Ravens commanders on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
They called it the Beltway Bowl and it was pretty good.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Lamar had another fantastic game, twenty to twenty six for
three hundred and twenty three yards. Derrick Henry, though, was
a beast on the ground one hundred and thirty two
yards rushing on twenty three carries. After the game, Derek
Henry said, defenses have to pick their poison.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Oh, for like everything was was working, it's I pick
your poison. Everybody did a great job being a lot
dan and execute no hass off everybody on offense. So
you know they'll put the plays together and they'll be
able to fill in his drives.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Putself a position to one. Lamar right now would be
the MVP of the league. All come on, he would be.
He's been absolutely electric. And again when you got the
quarterback right, oh, they have three new offensive linemen, no
factor whatsoever. Great quarterbacks are erasers. Here's the other thing
about Jayden Daniels, if you I mean, I watched that game.
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In my take is Washington is going to be Baltimore
in about two years. I think they are. I think
they're not there yet. They're like they're like Washington is
like the the youthful version of Baltimore. They just need seasoning.
But they are. They're not a fluke. That's a real team.
I've watched Baltimore blow out Buffalo's and Dallas's. Washington's a
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playoff team. That is a good football team.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
I don't disagree.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
I mean, they were missing Brian Robbinson, the running back
who's very good, excellent, and without him they had like
no run games.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
That's right, Resran not Baltimore's arguably right now. Kansas City
we called number one. But on any given Sunday, Jack,
you would agree with this. On any given Sunday, Baltimore
can be the best team in the league. We've seen
them house people this year, okay, and Washington was there
for the taking. They're on a roll. They're very young,
they're missing and they hung with them. It's a good game.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Listen, Raven's nearly five hundred yards offense. They've rushed for
one hundred and fifty or more in every game, and
they had I mean, the numbers for their rushing are
dominant throughout the league.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
I think we have a full screen of it.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Basically Baltimore when they want to run with Henry and Lamar,
it's deadly.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Look at that rushing yards pre game over two hundred.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah, it is the way they are built. The way
you can beat Josh Allen or mahonmes. We just keep
them off the field.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Let me just briefly push back against Raven's best team
in the league.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Here are there four wins. They beat Dallas.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I don't know that Dallas is a dumpster fire, but
we would agree Dallas it's not a good team. They're
not a top eight team in the NFC. Okay, they
beat Buffalo. It was a great spot. They didn't just
hate them, They pulled them, destroyed them. I'll ask you
is Buffalo good and then you'll answer, well, the way
they beat them.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Okay, they crushed Buffalo.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Then they beat Cincinnati in a game they kind of
got lucky to come back. Cincinnati's a two win team.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
And then they beat the hottest team in the league
outside of Minnesota, Washing.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Watch it, which has no defense.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Well whatever they were smoking everybody.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
They were, they were smoking bad teams.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
This team's not going away. My take is they're gonna
They're gonna beat Tampa.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Are Yeah, I think you could just go into Tampa
and get a doub Well, it won't be easy, bakers.
They just dropped a fifty burger on the same. Listen,
I'm not a total believer in the Ravens yet as
a Super Bowl contender, Colin, We've seen this regular season
show before. They dominate and then what happens in the playoffs.
So all right, I'm just gonna preach a little bit
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of caution. I know you're very excited on a Monday.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
No, I said on any Sunday, my favorite team to
watch in the league is the Ravens. I love Lamar,
I love their movement, I love their I just like
everything about him.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
I don't I'm go Lions, given by the.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Way, lines are fun too. They now like they knew
a trick player two a week.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
I mean they were Yeah, it was lives were awesome.
All right, let's go to college football column.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Listen, this was the greatest Saturday of the season, and
it did not disappoint Texas destroyed Oklahoma, easy winner for
everybody who backed him. Oregon beat Ohio State, and I'm
sure we're gonna do some stuff on this. I'll I
said it on my podcast. I walked away from this.
Ohio State still the better.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Team, absolutely, Okay, So I said all summer long, Oregon's
gonna beat them here, and then Ohio State's gonna meet
Oregon again in the Final four and beat them. First
of all, Will Howard played well, They ran the ball,
their two receivers were great. Now, I am concerned that
in these big games over the in the Ryan Day era. No,
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I mean, it's serious, something's going on. They're not very
good defensively. Georgia gashtam Michigan would take over the second half.
I don't love what I see with their defense, but
I think Chip Kelly bringing in elevates the run game.
I think I think nobody in the country except maybe
Texas would have won that game. Nobody, well that is,
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I mean.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
It will listen, you said Will Howard played good. That's
an unforgivable sin to end the game that Colin, he's
a college Why you go to the transfer portal to
get a veteran, a twenty two year old as opposed
to like a sophomore colin.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
He's running and looking at the screen with the time.
All you got to do slide take the time out.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I'm just telling you Ohio State disciplin I'm I'm I'm
starting to think Ohio State is the only team in
the country because if that game was on a neutral
field or in Columbus.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Ohio State, by the way, the onside kicked by Oregon,
Why don't more people do that?
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Just drill it right with the player. That was awesome.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
That was as good a television product. I mean you
could not but you could feel Eugene Oregon through the
TV set. It was zany.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
There was another game, Yeah, I think we probably should touch.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
On it here.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Uh USC was dominating Penn State at halftime.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
I was right there with you. The second half did
not go great for Lincoln Riley.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
And then they're five and eight in their last thirteen.
They have one usable running back, two playable tackles, and
I got to tell you something, Yes, their defense is better.
Who cares it was the worst in the country last year.
It's better. I think I do think they'll be better
next year. Because they're so young. They only lose two
guys on their offense.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Hold On, is this loss on Lincoln Ryley? I don't.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Here's well, okay, the first of all, congrats to Penn
State to ask a bunch of kids to travel thirty
five hundred miles, go to overtime and execute. I thought
their execution the second half for a Penn State was
really good. James Franklin should be proud. That's a good
win for them. But Lincoln's now had three recruiting classes,
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they have one really good running back, they have two
playable offensive tackles. Ohio State's got six and I'm not
saying there Ohio State or Texas, but I know what
Sark's done in three or four years. I know what
Lincoln's done. Uctually didn't have enough players, and it's a
big brand Southern California. Too many kids in the state
are leaving.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Why hold on, how do you go up twenty to
was it twenty three or twenty six?
Speaker 5 (22:08):
How do you go if you don't have good players?
Speaker 1 (22:09):
No, no, no, you script your way to a lead.
The second half is on players. You can make adjustments,
but at some point, depth, toughness, resiliency, the ability to
playoff script.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
We know Conklin adjusted, I don't know the us he did.
It's a tough one. I'll just put this out there.
Penn State will be hosting Ohio State November second and
Happy Valley.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
I'm I was not impressed with Penn State.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Ohio State's going to beat them.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Ahio State should win. It's probably gonna be a white out,
It's gonna be a crazy game. Yeah, I'll circle that
November second, on the on the count right after Halloween.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
The final story, Colin, is you touched on this earlier?
The NFC North is just cooking right now. Best division
in football by a mile.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Lions destroy the Cowboys, Packers whooked up on the Cardinals,
Caleb Williams four touchdowns, and of course the Vikings undefeated
coming off the buy post. London calling their point differential
this season. Everybody in the division is plus forty or more.
How's this stat? I haven't seen this on any other
shows this division. Eighteen and four against the spread. They
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are dominating teams, cooking Vegas. It is really interesting.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Two games, two games in that division this week.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
I love already look at you firing on my.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Favorite My favorite bet of the week is the Rams
off of Bye. It was four and a half? Can
I lock it in right now? It's five. I'm want
to lock the Rams in off of By against the Raiders.
It was minus four and a half last night, it's
now up to five. I'm going to lock that line
in right now. That will be one of my blazing
five picks, the Rams minus five, because that line's going
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to go up to six and a half.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
Certainly. Yeah, Aidan O'Connell and the Raiders look bad, look bad?
What was it? What was the other one that you like?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (23:47):
The New York Giants?
Speaker 5 (23:48):
Oh, come on?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Uh molite Neighbors coming back?
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Oh? Is he definitely coming backward? Is he going to
another concert this week? With the concussion?
Speaker 3 (23:56):
By the way, listen, anybody who's ever had a concussion,
You see neighbors on the sand before the game, just
on his phone. Just bro, you're supposed to be off
of a screen with a concussion. I'm sorry to be
dad and be nerdy about this. That's how you get better.
It's a brain injury. It's a brain bruce.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
They tell the doctors, tell you, don't watch TV, don't.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Be on the side I don't think with a concussion,
i'd be out at concerts.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
I don't think I'm not rushing nay.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
People are saying, did you what you guys did to Odell?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
No?
Speaker 5 (24:21):
Odell Beckham did that stuff to himself.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Hey, by the way, we weren't wrong on Odell in
the end, his immaturity has made his career forgettable the
last six years. They weren't wrong.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
I can't believe you're backing them against the Eagles. I'm not.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Oh, I like, I like they're gonna get multie neighbors back.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
If there's one team, Nick Sirianni murders, it is the
New York Giants.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
They destroy that team Gulling.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I think they're pretty good. I think Giants are are
really I think I think when they have neighbors, I
think they're pretty I think pretty.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Daniel Jones floating out over the middle.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Of well, he got him, he got hit Begels Baby,
how about that covered by the Begels?
Speaker 1 (24:56):
J Mack with the news.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping that line.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I would like to congratulate the New York Mets on
a fine season. It's probably over because the Dodgers have
decided they're not going to let anybody else score in
the playoffs. Mookie Betts now three RBIs last night. He's
in a groove. They win the opening game against the
Mets after shutting out the Padres the last two games
in the series. Keyk Hernandez had a couple of hits.
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He's now hot. Freddy Freeman in the playoffs hitting over
three point fifty. This is the Dodgers philosophy, which has
always been our talent over time will win. Now the
Mets number two starter is going today, Sean Manya, So
this is they got to win this thing. And he's
a good pitcher. So, but what's fascinating about the Dodgers.
All season long, the question was they're pitching because they
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were all beat up. But now you've got Jack Flaherty,
who's an LA kid. By the way, Yamamoto, they're both
doing great. So if you look at the Dodgers, they've
had thirty three consecutive scoreless innings and they've used twelve
different pitchers and they're doing it without an ace. I
want you to think about this. The Dodgers are missing
an entire rotation. Bobby Miller shoheo Tani, Tyler, Glassnaut, Dusty May,
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and Kershaw. They're missing all of that. It would be
a rotation and a good one, and they're missing all
of it. And they're throwing shut out, shut out, shutout
against the red hot Padres cool them down. Red hot
Mets cooled them down, so they have a full rotation
on the shelf. Here's Dave Roberts after their win and
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the thirty three inning scoreless streak for the opponents.
Speaker 6 (26:38):
I think it's just a collective effort. Certainly, the players
that were involved in all those scoreless innings have been fantastic.
I think defensively, we've been very good. Defensively. I think
the coaches have done a great job of relaying the
information and making it, you know, tangible. The front office
just the information we get. So I just think that
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how we're preventing runs, it's a complete, you know, team effort.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Yeah, if you live in Los Angeles. The LA Times
had an article about this during the season. The last
two years, the Dodgers have done everything right. They can't
keep pictures healthy, and then you know, they go get
Flairty at the trade deadline from Detroit. La Kid. He's
great he's been fantastic, so they're figuring out ways to
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sort of patchwork this thing together. It is remarkable because
the padres at the end, Machado and Tatis, who were
on fire in the end, couldn't hit. So tip of
the cap to an incredibly well run organization. And you know,
this is like the Kansas City Chiefs winning a Super
Bowl with no wide receivers the last couple of years.
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They have an entire staff on the shelf and they
keep throwing scoreless inning after scoreless inning. So I thought
that was a moment this weekend. So what's been cool
about this season? I think you'd all agree Chicago got
a quarterback, and Washington's got a quarterback. And I still
think Michael Pennix in Atlanta and JJ McCarthy and Minnesota
they're gonna hit and Drake Mayo be fine. So the
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more great quarterbacks you have, the better football. Is nobody
wants to watch Carolina. If Carolina had a great quarterback,
they'd be a good watch. I mean, look what Brady
and Tampa and Baker Mayfield and Tampa. I mean you start,
you watched Tampa the last five years. It's like they're
fun to watch it's points everywhere. So I saw this weekend.
I watched all the games. I think we have a
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number one pick in the NFL draft. I think a
quarterback has separated from everybody else, and Dion Sanders will
should like our next segment.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
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Speaker 3 (28:48):
The NLCS continues today with Game two as Francisco Lindor
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Speaker 5 (28:54):
They've done show a Otani and the Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Coverage begins at three pm Eastern New Specific on Fox
then FS.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
One, So listen. Just because you're the number one quarterback CJ.
Strouds an example, doesn't mean you'll end up being the
best quarterback. Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen out beforem people that
were drafted off and ahead of them. But you know
this next quarterback class is not great. Cam Ward feels
a little small. Don't always hear great things. Quinn Ewers
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is hurt again. I think Carson Beck has regressed when
you take Brock Bowers his tight end away from him.
I thought Shador Sanders this weekend made a really strong
case that's the best quarterback and probably the number one pick.
He had lost Travis Hunter as best receiver in Jimmy
Horden junior. He had no run game at all. Under
duress against a very very good Kansas State team. He
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was sacked six times and they were driving for the win.
He had almost four hundred yards, he had four touchdowns. Again,
they had no run game at all. Kansas State's got
better players. I mean Travis Hunter and Shandor Sanders or
probably the two best players in the game three through fifteen,
it'd probably be a dozen Kansas State guys. So I
just watched him this weekend, and my take was if
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I had the number one pick in the draft and
needed a quarterback, he was averaging almost ten yards of completion,
which when you're under duress and you're getting sacked and
you have no run game against the best team in
your conference. I think Utah and Kansas State best team
in that conference. I thought it was an impressive performance.
He is what I called last week, He's an effortlessly
accurate thrower of the football. You know, he's athletic, that's
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you know, he's beyond what you need there. But some
guys screens seam routes deep, look at there, he's running forward,
no problem. When he moves left, when he moves right,
it just doesn't matter. CJ. Stroud's got this. CJ Stroud,
that ball comes out. I mean, this is a great anything.
It doesn't matter where he's asked to throw it. He
can go over the top, he can go underneath, he
can be moving forward. He throws a beautiful, effortless accurate
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ball and he's got absolutely outstanding movement. So missing his
top two receivers, I thought he was really good against
Kansas State. Four hundred yards against Kansas State is something. Okay.
So the Steelers won thirty two thirteen. They beat the Raiders,
and I don't mean the left, but something feels very
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inevitable going forward for the Pittsburgh Steelers. They're gonna end
up with a winning record, nine or ten wins, and
they're gonna convince themselves justin fields is the future of
this offense. I know Steeler guy waked up this morning
and he's like, we are something else. We're four and two,
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and a reminder, a week ago at home, you scored
seventeen points against a cowboy defense that Detroit could have
scored seventy. That Baltimore scored at will. That Green Bay
last year scored at will. So I mean this is
sort of I gotta be honest, this is kind of
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what the Steelers are. Five hundred or better, beat the
Kruddy teams on their schedule, spend all their money on defense,
and kind of middle of the packet. Quarterback Justin Field
is athletic, but you start, he's in the AFS. He's
in a division with Joe Burrow. Lamar Jackson. Now he's
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better than Deshaun Watson now and much cheaper. But he's
in a division with Joe Burrow. And you watched that
run last night. You watch Burrow, a mobile guy that's
incredibly accurate. Lamar is going to be the MVP of
the league. There's Josh Allen, There's c. J. Stroud. Herbert
now has a legitimate quarterback like the going is rough
and Justin Field is still better running than throwing. So
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they basically at home scored seventeen points. In fact, they
only have one touchdown all year that Justin Fields is
not connected. Do they have one running back touchdown? That
is not good? Because they keep drafting offensive linemen, they've
got good running game backs. The Arthur Smith is tends
to be. It seems to me as I've made Ryan
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Tannehill a number one seed in Tennessee. So I think,
you know, this is what they are. They're tough, they're physical,
they spend money on defense. They'll end up. You know,
they don't have a playoff winning seven years. And I
don't think this team is going to be anybody in
the AFC in the playoffs, even if they get in
at seven, because right now I'd put him in at
seven over Miami because of two is injury. And if
you look at their schedule, they got a lot of
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ugly wins in it. I mean, they that's what they do.
You start looking at it. I mean you look at
the schedule that Jets team on a short week, you know,
the New York Giants at home, they get a buye.
You know, Washington Volvemore and it's Cleveland a couple of times.
Philadelphia could have a new coach. I mean, who knows
that Parole plays at the last week of the season
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if they're already inter Mahomes. So I here was Tomlin
on the inevitable win over the rebuilding Raiders.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
Winning is our business. Football is our game. Winning is
our business. We hadn't been handling business. So it's just
good to get back to taking care of business.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
This is a normal state for us.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
It needs to be.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yeah, you know, it's I thought the Eagles it was
a bad win, and I think I think Pittsburgh wasn't
a bad win. But it's how their wins are going
to look. And now give the organization to Mike Tomlin credit.
They moved off. I mean they had a winning record,
they moved off Kenny Pickett. Justin Field a lot more
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talented than Kenny Pickett. But there's a little fools gold
hit here. I mean, you watched Chicago's offense and they
had DJ Moore last year, they had Cole Comet last year.
I mean, they had that offensive line in Chicago last year.
Looked at the consistency of the Chicago Bears offense. Yes,
they added Keenan Allen, but he was just finally back
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Roma Dunzay, he's a rookie. I mean, they had a
lot of these offensive pieces last year and a lot
of these players last year. Chicago looks like a totally
different team. Why because Caleb Williams can throw from the pocket,
Caleb Williams can run Justin. He can throw from the pocket.
He's not frenetic, totally composed. Justin Fields can move, but
you know, sitting in the pocket throwing darts, that's how
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you win in January. In February, Caleb can do that.
That's not what I've seen so far from Justin. So
I kind of feel like this is inevitable. They're gonna
finish a winning record. Cleveland, now's done. You're gonna beat
Cleveland twice Cleveland shot, it's over, it's done. Nobody in
the building things to Sean can play. The owner doesn't
think that, but he's forcing everybody to say, yeall play him.
And there you go. It is what it is, never bad,
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but now never great. That's what the Steelers are. They're
a mile from the super Bowl. So I mean, I'll
say this, whether you like McCarthy or Tomlin. Unlike the Cowboys,
there are things that I love about Pittsburgh. I love
their culture. I love their toughness. I love the way
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they draft and develop. I like the fact that they
don't have pickens as a little sideways, but not a
ton of ego. There's a resilience, a toughness. They draft,
they develop, they care about the right stuff. Mostly. I
like a lot about them, but the offense is just
what had been for about eight years Dallas, there's almost
nothing I like Ceedee Lamb's really good. It ends right
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after that, I don't like Dak at that price tag.
I would move off Mikeah Parsons. I would trade Micah
Parsons and get a first round pick. I don't want
to be that top heavy I you know, listen, somebody
wants Michael Parsons, I'd move him. And it's not that
I don't like him. I think he's worth a first
round pick somewhere, But at Dallas. Dallas has issues Like
if if Justin Fields was as good as Caleb Williams,
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Pittsford would be good for a decade. They just got
to get the quarterback better. But I mean Dallas has issues,
Like I like the quarterback, but that's not as talent
as Caleb Williams. That's not close. Caleb tows a better ball,
Caleb's a better athlete. That's not close. I mean, Dak's
a fourth round pick for a reason, and Caleb was
a number one pick for a reason, and teams would
have moved up Chicago cold more calls, But so I
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don't know. I just look at Pittsburgh and I'm like,
it's a little fools gold. You're gonna have winning record
thanks to Cleveland being a tire fire. But I don't
think it goes anywhere. Am I being too hard on him? Man?
Speaker 5 (37:12):
I like how you said a little fool's gold?
Speaker 3 (37:14):
A little These are the quarterbacks they beat this season,
Mighty Pittsburgh. Okay, Kirk Cousins when he was immobile in
the open, that's right, Bo Nicks in game two of
his rookie year, Game three, justin Herbert, they were knit
nipp and talking and then.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
He leaves a game.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Yeah, Herbert came into that game limping.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
He was Yeah, Taylor Heineke finishes a game and they
destroy the Chargers. And then yesterday Aidan O'Connell, who just
continues to just give the football away at all costs.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
Listen, man, we like to talk. Is Pittsburgh good? Is
this team good? Colin? It's okay to say, sure, they're
four to two, but I don't know if they're good.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
They could only muster two hundred and ninety three yards
of offense against the Raiders. They had one drive over
forty five yards everything else the Raiders just handed to them. Listen,
I thought Justin Fields was gonna get subbed out yesterday
for Russell Wilson. Did you see that first quarter? Justin
Fields was all over the place, total mess. They cut
to russ on the sideline. He's like, got the hands ready,
you know, he's all ready to go. I just I
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don't think Pittsburgh's a good football team right now. They're winning, yes,
but this is not sustainable.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Cost well, and we do know that schedules can be beneficial.
We know. I mean Chicago fairly has beaten teams that
are reeling. I mean Will Levis gave them a w
Jacksonville is right now at that thing's man overboard that
you've got to move off. I think they actually have to.
I never call for coaches to be fired, but Trevor
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Lawrence has regressed so badly, Like they don't do anything well.
Some teams like Pittsburgh, they do defense well, they're not
without hope. They draft and develop well, but there's just
limitations on You got to score in this league. Go
to the last two years. At the end of the season,
nobody can stop anybody, even Kansas City's defense. You can
move on it like that's so by the end of
the season, your defense gets beat up. Defensive players tend to,
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on average, statistically, get hurt more often than offensive players
because of the collisions they create.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
And so this is where the Steelers are.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
If you watch that game closely, in the fourth quarter,
they're up handily and you hear the announcers start to.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
Allude to, Oh, they're trying to get the ball to Pickens.
You know why, because you got to keep Pickens happy.
He's always unhappy.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
He's chirping, get me the ball, and they were trying
to force feed him up like fifteen late.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
Colin Away.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Listen back in twenty twenty they won twelve games, but
like this year, there were twenty fourth in offense. What
happened They lost to Baker in the playoffs. So that's
what this team is. You can get to the play
You can get to the playoffs with an average offense.
If your defense is great. You're not winning games. Not
in the AFC and these days not in the NFC.
I think the NFC has gotten better very quickly because
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a couple of teams hit quarterbacks. All right, Colin right,
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Wherever you may be and however you may be watching.
Thanks for making us part of your day. Well well, well,
we said before the weekend an oil leak would begin
this weekend with the Dallas Cowboys. My bad, it was
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a gusher. H Jmac. There are a lot of things
going on this weekend. The Dodgers have decided they're not
gonna allow any more scoring the rest of the play.
That's insane. Do you have a good weekend?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
The Palace football was a credit on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Phenomenal weekend, all right. Jerry Jones on his birthday that was,
believe it or not, the worst home loss of his
career on his eighty second Thursday. That's sand a lot
because Jerry's first year owning the Cowboys was nineteen eighty nine,
and they were one in fifteen, and they finished in
fifth place in the NFC East. You can't even do that.
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There is no fifth place in the NFC East. And
they were terrible, and that yesterday was a worst home loss.
They may be shrewd doing business off the field, but
they were shameful on the field. The NFL has gotten
smarter over the last decade, more good coaches, more sharp executives,
and the Cowboys, along that same timeline, have become much
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more insular. The only team in the NFL with an
eighty two year old GM wink wink, And he's not
firing Mike McCarthy. He's not gonna do that. We'll get
to that in a second, but that's not gonna work.
The Detroit Lions, though yesterday, were everything the Cowboys want
to be. Deep, tough, clever, fun, capable at quarterback. Nobody's
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massively overpaid. In fact, I'd argue many of their best
players are right now under market value. They were everything
the Cowboys want to be. In fact, their old line,
the Lions all line had two touches and a target.
I'm not like talking about falling on a fumble. These
were intentional. They were going to embarrass the Cowboys. It
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was like the Chiefs against the Saints. They were messing around,
flexing for the TV audience. After that Cowboy win shouldn't
have over Detroit last December. So, I mean, what you
were watching was embarrassing. That was embarrassing. And I said
it going into the season the super I can't take
the Cowboys seriously. If we can't take a team seriously
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with an eighty two year old owner, slash GM, too
many Joneses in the front office. You need outside influence
and eyeballs and voices. They're not a Super Bowl team.
They're not close to it. And the truth is, oh,
they won twelve games the last two years. Previous to
this one, the NFC's been down. Green Bay got rid
of Aaron Rodgers in a very quick rebuild with a
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young quarterback, and the Lions were good for a couple
of years. But now all those young players are no
longer young. The Niners ended up finding Brock Purty, who
just keeps getting better. You start look at Washington now
as a real football team. Oh, Minnesota, Chicago's got Caleb Williams.
It was there for the taking. The last two years
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in the NFC, it was there. The Rams were rebuilding,
the Packers were too young. You know, Chicago didn't have
the quarterback. Minnesota was trying to draft the quarterback. Now
the NFC at the top can play with the AFC.
And Dallas won twelve games. But the more Jerry dabbles
in football, the sadder January becomes for Dallas. You can't
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be an owner slash GM. That's just not the way
it works. Jerry's running the franchise the way he wants to,
not the way it should be run. The way it
should be run is San Francisco, so you can find
Brock Purdy with the last pick, or in Philadelphia where
they have a loaded roster and yet always have money
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to spend. That's the way it should be run. Or
like Kansas any year Baltimore. Why does Baltimore always have
so many good players that they can move off great
ones and the next year they're just fine. Dallas right now, Hey, hey,
Dak got the bag and Cowboy fans are left holding it.
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Here was Jerry on Testy tey Ta Ta with the
media in regard to potentially replace seeing Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Would it take you to evaluate making a head coaching
change in season?
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Oh, I haven't considered that. I'm not considering that.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
So you're clear.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
I'm not considering that, but you've done it. I wouldn't
be a hypothetical in that matter.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
Do you think I'm an idiot?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Do you? Now, let's move to a brighter conversation. I know,
I know, I know, I know. The Bears are just
beating bad teams. Yeah, they're kind of thumping them. I
know they've just beaten the Titans, Carolina, a short handed
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La Ram team, and the dysfunctional Jags. Okay, you could
say that. But for the first time, and I'm not
joking in my life, I look at the Bears and
I say, Man, what a deep, talented offensive roster. What
a stud they have at quarterback for the next fifteen years.
Yet that I've never said in my life. I'm three receivers.
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I like Keenan Allen came back, an excellent tight end,
a clever running back. The old line's fine. It's not
Detroit or Atlanta, but it's fine. And Caleb Williams are
getting better every week. I mean, he's gone from kind
of frenetic to foundational. If you go back our guys
did this morning, and I'm sorry to the radio audience,
but Caleb Williams, if you go a week one as
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passer reading was fifty five. Two weeks later it was eighty.
A week after that, it was one oh six. A
week after that it was one twenty six. And it
looks like this week at won twenty four, he's found
his footing reckless to in control questions, the confident and
in fact, my biggest concern seriously for the Chicago Bears.
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And I bet it's theirs. It's not the Bears, it's
the division. Minnesota looks like they could hoist a trophy
Green Bays just now that Jordan loves ready to roll.
That was our pick of the weekend. I mean that
game was over in ten minutes with Arizona. I mean,
Detroit has the best offensive line, two capable running backs,
a star receiver, a coach, and Dan Campbell. The team loves.
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Jared Goff's been to Super Bowls like I think Chicago's.
For years and years, Chicago's biggest liability was the Bears,
their ownership, their front office, their coaches. I mean even
Matt Eberflus. You can bang on them all you want,
but he's good on his side of the ball. At
least he knows his side of the ball. Go get
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Dennis Allen with the Saints. He can't even get the
defensive side right. And he's a defensive coach. So I mean,
I look around. They have the franchise quarterback they run.
I mean, seriously, this sounds embarrassing that they run a
modern offense. They've got multiple weapons, some of them young,
gonna be around a while. They made a smart move
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to get DJ Moore, and they nailed the quarterback pick.
For the record, this is what the good teams in
the AFC did. Baltimore got their quarterback right, Kansas City
got their quarterback right, Buffalo, oh got their quarterback right,
Houston got their quarterback right. You get that right, folks,
You could miss on a coach. You gotta get the
quarterback right now. I don't think there's any question when
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you latch those weapons. You got to give their GM
credit to Ryan Poles is a guy. He's a former
offensive lineman and he has spent the money. This forever
was a defensive culture like Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh still can't get
out of its own way. It spends all its money
on defense. Ryan Poles came out and said, no, no, no, no, no,
no no, We're gonna spend our money on offense. That's
where the league's going. And he was right. And they
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get Dj Moore and they get Keenan Allen in a
second tight end and Swift the running back. Like this
is a really big time offensive group. D you insert
Keenan Allen, this thing Roma duns a Dj Moore, cole Kament, Swift,
Keenan Allen, It's like whoa, They got dudes everywhere. It
is for real. You could open up the entire playbook
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because Caleb is so electric, so dynamic. But the difference
is he's not a guy that can't throw from the pocket.
He did that at USC. What did we say coming
into the season. He can be a little bit. You
gotta sometimes rain him in because he's so gifted. Lamar
Jackson faced this first couple of years, so gifted that
his natural inclination if the first receiver's not open is
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to takeoff and run. But on multiple times yesterday in London,
and I hope you noticed this, I'm sure you did.
Did you watch Caleb on multiple times. Look left, look middle,
look right, look back left. That's a franchise quarterback looked
all over the field trying to find the right guy.
He threw to the fourth or third option multiple times.
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A lot of great athletic quarterbacks. First one's not open.
As rookies, they're off to the races. And he now
over the four or five week. He was in the
first couple of weeks. Here we are in week five.
Here comes week six. You got yourself a stud and
here's Caleb after.
Speaker 7 (09:54):
You know, we gotta keep getting better.
Speaker 8 (09:56):
I can't.
Speaker 7 (09:56):
I can't turn the ball over, light down in the
wide open, uh.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Touchdown the DJ.
Speaker 7 (10:01):
You know a few things that are going on throughout
the game. You know that that I got to be
better at. But I think the progress that we've had
is is going to keep growing. I think we have
great leaders and a great personality this team that I've
talked about many times, and so I think all that's
gonna keep growing.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
I think we got to keep going.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah, that's a How about that division, Vikings, Packers, Lions Bears.
When's the last time you had a division? I can't
think of it. When is the last time that you
had a division with four of the top eight offensive
teams in the league. I mean, that is crazy that
that that is not only the best division in football,
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it is the best division in football by a mile.
It's incredible. How good Jordan Love, Caleb, Sam Darnold, JJ
McCarthy behind him and Jared Goff and by the way,
the best of offensive line in Detroit. I would say
Green Bay and Chicago, I mean and Minneso have some
of the best heighth end wide receiver groupings in the league.
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So I think the Bears biggest adversary isn't themselves. I
don't think it for the first time ever offensively, it's
not them or their ownership. It's like a real division.
By the way, the NFC North has the four best
point differentials in the league. All four Bears, Lions, Vikings,
Packer the four best point differentials in the league. They're
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all in one division. It's like the SEC on steroids.
I mean, it's crazy how good it is.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
J Mac.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Meanwhile, in Philadelphia, what a circus that organization is?
Speaker 5 (11:38):
That's your guy, Nick Sirianni, what a circus. Very rare.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Do you see a coach mouthing off to his own
fan base after a win like what what's wrong with
Nick Sirianni.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Colin Wright, Colin wrong? Fifty minutes from now top of
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Speaker 1 (12:07):
Matt Hasselback and Colin was right, Colin was wrong, plenty
of both. So a stay away game for me. Whenever
I look at odds going into a weekend, whatever the
biggest spread is, I just get it out. Not that
it's a sucker bet, but Philadelphia was like an eight
eight and a half point favorite over dreadful Cleveland. Their shot.
The coach doesn't like the quarterback, but he has to
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take the sword for the owner who guaranteed the deal.
It's a mess of an organization with a really good
coach and I think a pretty sharp GM. And so
I stayed away because I don't trust Philadelphia. I've said
I think their coaches over his new unshaven head. That
was a If there's such thing as a bad win
in the NFL, that was it. Cleveland's awful. Siriani at
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one point is jousting with the home fans, and this
remains a confounding stat You should absolutely be terrified if
you're an Eagles fan off of ball with an offensive coach.
First two series, Jalen hurts, Oh for five to two punts.
They had both their receivers back. Sakuon Barkley's a stud
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offensive line is good enough. Lane Johnson said, our offense
is constipated. But you're at home a terrible team, offensive
coach at off of by a reeling team, both your
star receivers back in your first two drives. That's where coaches.
Offensive coaches off of bye, like. By the way, Sean
McVay is off a bye this week against the Raiders.
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Take Sean McVay like, take offensive coaches off by, especially
with the off of by at home against a reeling
team with a bad mojo in Cleveland, and they couldn't
muster with both aj Brown Deavonte Smith back. First two drives,
Oh for five Jalen hurts, those are scripted plays. He's
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over his skis. I don't know what to tell you.
They're great at running back, They're excellent wide receiver, they're
always good at tight end. The lines. Top ten offensive coach.
So this they don't have a Carolina issue where the
roster's bad or a cowboy issue upstairs is bad. I mean,
they're three and two completely on how talented their roster is,
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and they've done it with some injuries. There's a Super
Bowl roster and Nick Sirianni after jousting with home fans
when everybody knows there's been this question about his maturity,
and he brought his three kids to the press conference
after to be a bit of a buffer against the
usually relentless Philadelphia press.
Speaker 8 (14:36):
We thrive off the crowd when they cheer for us,
that's all sag. When our crowd cheers for us, we
thrive off them, you know. And you know we hear
them when they boo. We don't. We don't necessarily like it.
I don't think that's productive for anybody. But you know,
when they cheer for us, and when when we got
them rolling, you know, we love it.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I don't want to make this personal, but Sirianni reminds me,
you know, I think he he's a certain level of IQ,
but he reminds me of a crypto bro. But the
crash is coming, like, no, you can't do that. Like
like coaches, can you could you just say this out loud?
Can you imagine Andy Reid jousting regularly with fans? Hey
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J Mack with a news.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Turn on the news, this is the herd line news.
We were super stoked for Ravens commanders on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
They called it the Beltway Bowl and it was pretty good.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Lamar had another fantastic game, twenty to twenty six for
three hundred and twenty three yards. Derrick Henry, though, was
a beast on the ground one hundred and thirty two
yards rushing on twenty three carries. After the game, Derek
Henry said, defenses have to pick their poison.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Oh, for like everything was was working, it's I pick
your poison. Everybody did a great job being a lot
dan and execute no hass off everybody on offense. So
you know they'll put the plays together and they'll be
able to fill in his drives.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Putself a position to one. Lamar right now would be
the MVP of the league. All come on, he would be.
He's been absolutely electric. And again when you got the
quarterback right, oh, they have three new offensive linemen, no
factor whatsoever. Great quarterbacks are erasers. Here's the other thing
about Jayden Daniels, if you I mean, I watched that game.
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In my take is Washington is going to be Baltimore
in about two years. I think they are. I think
they're not there yet. They're like they're like Washington is
like the the youthful version of Baltimore. They just need seasoning.
But they are. They're not a fluke. That's a real team.
I've watched Baltimore blow out Buffalo's and Dallas's. Washington's a
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playoff team. That is a good football team.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
I don't disagree.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
I mean, they were missing Brian Robbinson, the running back
who's very good, excellent, and without him they had like
no run games.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
That's right, Resran not Baltimore's arguably right now. Kansas City
we called number one. But on any given Sunday, Jack,
you would agree with this. On any given Sunday, Baltimore
can be the best team in the league. We've seen
them house people this year, okay, and Washington was there
for the taking. They're on a roll. They're very young,
they're missing and they hung with them. It's a good game.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Listen, Raven's nearly five hundred yards offense. They've rushed for
one hundred and fifty or more in every game, and
they had I mean, the numbers for their rushing are
dominant throughout the league.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
I think we have a full screen of it.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Basically Baltimore when they want to run with Henry and Lamar,
it's deadly.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Look at that rushing yards pre game over two hundred.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah, it is the way they are built. The way
you can beat Josh Allen or mahonmes. We just keep
them off the field.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Let me just briefly push back against Raven's best team
in the league.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Here are there four wins. They beat Dallas.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I don't know that Dallas is a dumpster fire, but
we would agree Dallas it's not a good team. They're
not a top eight team in the NFC. Okay, they
beat Buffalo. It was a great spot. They didn't just
hate them, They pulled them, destroyed them. I'll ask you
is Buffalo good and then you'll answer, well, the way
they beat them.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Okay, they crushed Buffalo.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Then they beat Cincinnati in a game they kind of
got lucky to come back. Cincinnati's a two win team.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
And then they beat the hottest team in the league
outside of Minnesota, Washing.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Watch it, which has no defense.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Well whatever they were smoking everybody.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
They were, they were smoking bad teams.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
This team's not going away. My take is they're gonna
They're gonna beat Tampa.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Are Yeah, I think you could just go into Tampa
and get a doub Well, it won't be easy, bakers.
They just dropped a fifty burger on the same. Listen,
I'm not a total believer in the Ravens yet as
a Super Bowl contender, Colin, We've seen this regular season
show before. They dominate and then what happens in the playoffs.
So all right, I'm just gonna preach a little bit
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of caution. I know you're very excited on a Monday.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
No, I said on any Sunday, my favorite team to
watch in the league is the Ravens. I love Lamar,
I love their movement, I love their I just like
everything about him.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
I don't I'm go Lions, given by the.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Way, lines are fun too. They now like they knew
a trick player two a week.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
I mean they were Yeah, it was lives were awesome.
All right, let's go to college football column.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Listen, this was the greatest Saturday of the season, and
it did not disappoint Texas destroyed Oklahoma, easy winner for
everybody who backed him. Oregon beat Ohio State, and I'm
sure we're gonna do some stuff on this. I'll I
said it on my podcast. I walked away from this.
Ohio State still the better.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Team, absolutely, Okay, So I said all summer long, Oregon's
gonna beat them here, and then Ohio State's gonna meet
Oregon again in the Final four and beat them. First
of all, Will Howard played well, They ran the ball,
their two receivers were great. Now, I am concerned that
in these big games over the in the Ryan Day era. No,
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I mean, it's serious, something's going on. They're not very
good defensively. Georgia gashtam Michigan would take over the second half.
I don't love what I see with their defense, but
I think Chip Kelly bringing in elevates the run game.
I think I think nobody in the country except maybe
Texas would have won that game. Nobody, well that is,
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I mean.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
It will listen, you said Will Howard played good. That's
an unforgivable sin to end the game that Colin, he's
a college Why you go to the transfer portal to
get a veteran, a twenty two year old as opposed
to like a sophomore colin.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
He's running and looking at the screen with the time.
All you got to do slide take the time out.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I'm just telling you Ohio State disciplin I'm I'm I'm
starting to think Ohio State is the only team in
the country because if that game was on a neutral
field or in Columbus.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Ohio State, by the way, the onside kicked by Oregon,
Why don't more people do that?
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Just drill it right with the player. That was awesome.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
That was as good a television product. I mean you
could not but you could feel Eugene Oregon through the
TV set. It was zany.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
There was another game, Yeah, I think we probably should touch.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
On it here.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Uh USC was dominating Penn State at halftime.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
I was right there with you. The second half did
not go great for Lincoln Riley.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
And then they're five and eight in their last thirteen.
They have one usable running back, two playable tackles, and
I got to tell you something, Yes, their defense is better.
Who cares it was the worst in the country last year.
It's better. I think I do think they'll be better
next year. Because they're so young. They only lose two
guys on their offense.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Hold On, is this loss on Lincoln Ryley? I don't.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Here's well, okay, the first of all, congrats to Penn
State to ask a bunch of kids to travel thirty
five hundred miles, go to overtime and execute. I thought
their execution the second half for a Penn State was
really good. James Franklin should be proud. That's a good
win for them. But Lincoln's now had three recruiting classes,
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they have one really good running back, they have two
playable offensive tackles. Ohio State's got six and I'm not
saying there Ohio State or Texas, but I know what
Sark's done in three or four years. I know what
Lincoln's done. Uctually didn't have enough players, and it's a
big brand Southern California. Too many kids in the state
are leaving.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Why hold on, how do you go up twenty to
was it twenty three or twenty six?
Speaker 5 (22:08):
How do you go if you don't have good players?
Speaker 1 (22:09):
No, no, no, you script your way to a lead.
The second half is on players. You can make adjustments,
but at some point, depth, toughness, resiliency, the ability to
playoff script.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
We know Conklin adjusted, I don't know the us he did.
It's a tough one. I'll just put this out there.
Penn State will be hosting Ohio State November second and
Happy Valley.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
I'm I was not impressed with Penn State.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Ohio State's going to beat them.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Ahio State should win. It's probably gonna be a white out,
It's gonna be a crazy game. Yeah, I'll circle that
November second, on the on the count right after Halloween.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
The final story, Colin, is you touched on this earlier?
The NFC North is just cooking right now. Best division
in football by a mile.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Lions destroy the Cowboys, Packers whooked up on the Cardinals,
Caleb Williams four touchdowns, and of course the Vikings undefeated
coming off the buy post. London calling their point differential
this season. Everybody in the division is plus forty or more.
How's this stat? I haven't seen this on any other
shows this division. Eighteen and four against the spread. They
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are dominating teams, cooking Vegas. It is really interesting.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Two games, two games in that division this week.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
I love already look at you firing on my.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Favorite My favorite bet of the week is the Rams
off of Bye. It was four and a half? Can
I lock it in right now? It's five. I'm want
to lock the Rams in off of By against the Raiders.
It was minus four and a half last night, it's
now up to five. I'm going to lock that line
in right now. That will be one of my blazing
five picks, the Rams minus five, because that line's going
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to go up to six and a half.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
Certainly. Yeah, Aidan O'Connell and the Raiders look bad, look bad?
What was it? What was the other one that you like?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (23:47):
The New York Giants?
Speaker 5 (23:48):
Oh, come on?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Uh molite Neighbors coming back?
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Oh? Is he definitely coming backward? Is he going to
another concert this week? With the concussion?
Speaker 3 (23:56):
By the way, listen, anybody who's ever had a concussion,
You see neighbors on the sand before the game, just
on his phone. Just bro, you're supposed to be off
of a screen with a concussion. I'm sorry to be
dad and be nerdy about this. That's how you get better.
It's a brain injury. It's a brain bruce.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
They tell the doctors, tell you, don't watch TV, don't.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Be on the side I don't think with a concussion,
i'd be out at concerts.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
I don't think I'm not rushing nay.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
People are saying, did you what you guys did to Odell?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
No?
Speaker 5 (24:21):
Odell Beckham did that stuff to himself.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Hey, by the way, we weren't wrong on Odell in
the end, his immaturity has made his career forgettable the
last six years. They weren't wrong.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
I can't believe you're backing them against the Eagles. I'm not.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Oh, I like, I like they're gonna get multie neighbors back.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
If there's one team, Nick Sirianni murders, it is the
New York Giants.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
They destroy that team Gulling.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I think they're pretty good. I think Giants are are
really I think I think when they have neighbors, I
think they're pretty I think pretty.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Daniel Jones floating out over the middle.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Of well, he got him, he got hit Begels Baby,
how about that covered by the Begels?
Speaker 1 (24:56):
J Mack with the news.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping that line.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I would like to congratulate the New York Mets on
a fine season. It's probably over because the Dodgers have
decided they're not going to let anybody else score in
the playoffs. Mookie Betts now three RBIs last night. He's
in a groove. They win the opening game against the
Mets after shutting out the Padres the last two games
in the series. Keyk Hernandez had a couple of hits.
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He's now hot. Freddy Freeman in the playoffs hitting over
three point fifty. This is the Dodgers philosophy, which has
always been our talent over time will win. Now the
Mets number two starter is going today, Sean Manya, So
this is they got to win this thing. And he's
a good pitcher. So, but what's fascinating about the Dodgers.
All season long, the question was they're pitching because they
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were all beat up. But now you've got Jack Flaherty,
who's an LA kid. By the way, Yamamoto, they're both
doing great. So if you look at the Dodgers, they've
had thirty three consecutive scoreless innings and they've used twelve
different pitchers and they're doing it without an ace. I
want you to think about this. The Dodgers are missing
an entire rotation. Bobby Miller shoheo Tani, Tyler, Glassnaut, Dusty May,
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and Kershaw. They're missing all of that. It would be
a rotation and a good one, and they're missing all
of it. And they're throwing shut out, shut out, shutout
against the red hot Padres cool them down. Red hot
Mets cooled them down, so they have a full rotation
on the shelf. Here's Dave Roberts after their win and
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the thirty three inning scoreless streak for the opponents.
Speaker 6 (26:38):
I think it's just a collective effort. Certainly, the players
that were involved in all those scoreless innings have been fantastic.
I think defensively, we've been very good. Defensively. I think
the coaches have done a great job of relaying the
information and making it, you know, tangible. The front office
just the information we get. So I just think that
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how we're preventing runs, it's a complete, you know, team effort.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Yeah, if you live in Los Angeles. The LA Times
had an article about this during the season. The last
two years, the Dodgers have done everything right. They can't
keep pictures healthy, and then you know, they go get
Flairty at the trade deadline from Detroit. La Kid. He's
great he's been fantastic, so they're figuring out ways to
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sort of patchwork this thing together. It is remarkable because
the padres at the end, Machado and Tatis, who were
on fire in the end, couldn't hit. So tip of
the cap to an incredibly well run organization. And you know,
this is like the Kansas City Chiefs winning a Super
Bowl with no wide receivers the last couple of years.
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They have an entire staff on the shelf and they
keep throwing scoreless inning after scoreless inning. So I thought
that was a moment this weekend. So what's been cool
about this season? I think you'd all agree Chicago got
a quarterback, and Washington's got a quarterback. And I still
think Michael Pennix in Atlanta and JJ McCarthy and Minnesota
they're gonna hit and Drake Mayo be fine. So the
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more great quarterbacks you have, the better football. Is nobody
wants to watch Carolina. If Carolina had a great quarterback,
they'd be a good watch. I mean, look what Brady
and Tampa and Baker Mayfield and Tampa. I mean you start,
you watched Tampa the last five years. It's like they're
fun to watch it's points everywhere. So I saw this weekend.
I watched all the games. I think we have a
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number one pick in the NFL draft. I think a
quarterback has separated from everybody else, and Dion Sanders will
should like our next segment.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
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Speaker 3 (28:48):
The NLCS continues today with Game two as Francisco Lindor
and the Mets.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
They've done show a Otani and the Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Coverage begins at three pm Eastern New Specific on Fox
then FS.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
One, So listen. Just because you're the number one quarterback CJ.
Strouds an example, doesn't mean you'll end up being the
best quarterback. Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen out beforem people that
were drafted off and ahead of them. But you know
this next quarterback class is not great. Cam Ward feels
a little small. Don't always hear great things. Quinn Ewers
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is hurt again. I think Carson Beck has regressed when
you take Brock Bowers his tight end away from him.
I thought Shador Sanders this weekend made a really strong
case that's the best quarterback and probably the number one pick.
He had lost Travis Hunter as best receiver in Jimmy
Horden junior. He had no run game at all. Under
duress against a very very good Kansas State team. He
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was sacked six times and they were driving for the win.
He had almost four hundred yards, he had four touchdowns. Again,
they had no run game at all. Kansas State's got
better players. I mean Travis Hunter and Shandor Sanders or
probably the two best players in the game three through fifteen,
it'd probably be a dozen Kansas State guys. So I
just watched him this weekend, and my take was if
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I had the number one pick in the draft and
needed a quarterback, he was averaging almost ten yards of completion,
which when you're under duress and you're getting sacked and
you have no run game against the best team in
your conference. I think Utah and Kansas State best team
in that conference. I thought it was an impressive performance.
He is what I called last week, He's an effortlessly
accurate thrower of the football. You know, he's athletic, that's
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you know, he's beyond what you need there. But some
guys screens seam routes deep, look at there, he's running forward,
no problem. When he moves left, when he moves right,
it just doesn't matter. CJ. Stroud's got this. CJ Stroud,
that ball comes out. I mean, this is a great anything.
It doesn't matter where he's asked to throw it. He
can go over the top, he can go underneath, he
can be moving forward. He throws a beautiful, effortless accurate
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ball and he's got absolutely outstanding movement. So missing his
top two receivers, I thought he was really good against
Kansas State. Four hundred yards against Kansas State is something. Okay.
So the Steelers won thirty two thirteen. They beat the Raiders,
and I don't mean the left, but something feels very
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inevitable going forward for the Pittsburgh Steelers. They're gonna end
up with a winning record, nine or ten wins, and
they're gonna convince themselves justin fields is the future of
this offense. I know Steeler guy waked up this morning
and he's like, we are something else. We're four and two,
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and a reminder, a week ago at home, you scored
seventeen points against a cowboy defense that Detroit could have
scored seventy. That Baltimore scored at will. That Green Bay
last year scored at will. So I mean this is
sort of I gotta be honest, this is kind of
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what the Steelers are. Five hundred or better, beat the
Kruddy teams on their schedule, spend all their money on defense,
and kind of middle of the packet. Quarterback Justin Field
is athletic, but you start, he's in the AFS. He's
in a division with Joe Burrow. Lamar Jackson. Now he's
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better than Deshaun Watson now and much cheaper. But he's
in a division with Joe Burrow. And you watched that
run last night. You watch Burrow, a mobile guy that's
incredibly accurate. Lamar is going to be the MVP of
the league. There's Josh Allen, There's c. J. Stroud. Herbert
now has a legitimate quarterback like the going is rough
and Justin Field is still better running than throwing. So
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they basically at home scored seventeen points. In fact, they
only have one touchdown all year that Justin Fields is
not connected. Do they have one running back touchdown? That
is not good? Because they keep drafting offensive linemen, they've
got good running game backs. The Arthur Smith is tends
to be. It seems to me as I've made Ryan
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Tannehill a number one seed in Tennessee. So I think,
you know, this is what they are. They're tough, they're physical,
they spend money on defense. They'll end up. You know,
they don't have a playoff winning seven years. And I
don't think this team is going to be anybody in
the AFC in the playoffs, even if they get in
at seven, because right now I'd put him in at
seven over Miami because of two is injury. And if
you look at their schedule, they got a lot of
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ugly wins in it. I mean, they that's what they do.
You start looking at it. I mean you look at
the schedule that Jets team on a short week, you know,
the New York Giants at home, they get a buye.
You know, Washington Volvemore and it's Cleveland a couple of times.
Philadelphia could have a new coach. I mean, who knows
that Parole plays at the last week of the season
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if they're already inter Mahomes. So I here was Tomlin
on the inevitable win over the rebuilding Raiders.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
Winning is our business. Football is our game. Winning is
our business. We hadn't been handling business. So it's just
good to get back to taking care of business.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
This is a normal state for us.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
It needs to be.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yeah, you know, it's I thought the Eagles it was
a bad win, and I think I think Pittsburgh wasn't
a bad win. But it's how their wins are going
to look. And now give the organization to Mike Tomlin credit.
They moved off. I mean they had a winning record,
they moved off Kenny Pickett. Justin Field a lot more
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talented than Kenny Pickett. But there's a little fools gold
hit here. I mean, you watched Chicago's offense and they
had DJ Moore last year, they had Cole Comet last year.
I mean, they had that offensive line in Chicago last year.
Looked at the consistency of the Chicago Bears offense. Yes,
they added Keenan Allen, but he was just finally back
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Roma Dunzay, he's a rookie. I mean, they had a
lot of these offensive pieces last year and a lot
of these players last year. Chicago looks like a totally
different team. Why because Caleb Williams can throw from the pocket,
Caleb Williams can run Justin. He can throw from the pocket.
He's not frenetic, totally composed. Justin Fields can move, but
you know, sitting in the pocket throwing darts, that's how
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you win in January. In February, Caleb can do that.
That's not what I've seen so far from Justin. So
I kind of feel like this is inevitable. They're gonna
finish a winning record. Cleveland, now's done. You're gonna beat
Cleveland twice Cleveland shot, it's over, it's done. Nobody in
the building things to Sean can play. The owner doesn't
think that, but he's forcing everybody to say, yeall play him.
And there you go. It is what it is, never bad,
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but now never great. That's what the Steelers are. They're
a mile from the super Bowl. So I mean, I'll
say this, whether you like McCarthy or Tomlin. Unlike the Cowboys,
there are things that I love about Pittsburgh. I love
their culture. I love their toughness. I love the way
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they draft and develop. I like the fact that they
don't have pickens as a little sideways, but not a
ton of ego. There's a resilience, a toughness. They draft,
they develop, they care about the right stuff. Mostly. I
like a lot about them, but the offense is just
what had been for about eight years Dallas, there's almost
nothing I like Ceedee Lamb's really good. It ends right
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after that, I don't like Dak at that price tag.
I would move off Mikeah Parsons. I would trade Micah
Parsons and get a first round pick. I don't want
to be that top heavy I you know, listen, somebody
wants Michael Parsons, I'd move him. And it's not that
I don't like him. I think he's worth a first
round pick somewhere, But at Dallas. Dallas has issues Like
if if Justin Fields was as good as Caleb Williams,
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Pittsford would be good for a decade. They just got
to get the quarterback better. But I mean Dallas has issues,
Like I like the quarterback, but that's not as talent
as Caleb Williams. That's not close. Caleb tows a better ball,
Caleb's a better athlete. That's not close. I mean, Dak's
a fourth round pick for a reason, and Caleb was
a number one pick for a reason, and teams would
have moved up Chicago cold more calls, But so I
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don't know. I just look at Pittsburgh and I'm like,
it's a little fools gold. You're gonna have winning record
thanks to Cleveland being a tire fire. But I don't
think it goes anywhere. Am I being too hard on him? Man?
Speaker 5 (37:12):
I like how you said a little fool's gold?
Speaker 3 (37:14):
A little These are the quarterbacks they beat this season,
Mighty Pittsburgh. Okay, Kirk Cousins when he was immobile in
the open, that's right, Bo Nicks in game two of
his rookie year, Game three, justin Herbert, they were knit
nipp and talking and then.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
He leaves a game.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Yeah, Herbert came into that game limping.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
He was Yeah, Taylor Heineke finishes a game and they
destroy the Chargers. And then yesterday Aidan O'Connell, who just
continues to just give the football away at all costs.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
Listen, man, we like to talk. Is Pittsburgh good? Is
this team good? Colin? It's okay to say, sure, they're
four to two, but I don't know if they're good.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
They could only muster two hundred and ninety three yards
of offense against the Raiders. They had one drive over
forty five yards everything else the Raiders just handed to them. Listen,
I thought Justin Fields was gonna get subbed out yesterday
for Russell Wilson. Did you see that first quarter? Justin
Fields was all over the place, total mess. They cut
to russ on the sideline. He's like, got the hands ready,
you know, he's all ready to go. I just I
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don't think Pittsburgh's a good football team right now. They're winning, yes,
but this is not sustainable.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Cost well, and we do know that schedules can be beneficial.
We know. I mean Chicago fairly has beaten teams that
are reeling. I mean Will Levis gave them a w
Jacksonville is right now at that thing's man overboard that
you've got to move off. I think they actually have to.
I never call for coaches to be fired, but Trevor
(38:34):
Lawrence has regressed so badly, Like they don't do anything well.
Some teams like Pittsburgh, they do defense well, they're not
without hope. They draft and develop well, but there's just
limitations on You got to score in this league. Go
to the last two years. At the end of the season,
nobody can stop anybody, even Kansas City's defense. You can
move on it like that's so by the end of
the season, your defense gets beat up. Defensive players tend to,
(38:57):
on average, statistically, get hurt more often than offensive players
because of the collisions they create.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
And so this is where the Steelers are.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
If you watch that game closely, in the fourth quarter,
they're up handily and you hear the announcers start to.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
Allude to, Oh, they're trying to get the ball to Pickens.
You know why, because you got to keep Pickens happy.
He's always unhappy.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
He's chirping, get me the ball, and they were trying
to force feed him up like fifteen late.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
Colin Away.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Listen back in twenty twenty they won twelve games, but
like this year, there were twenty fourth in offense. What
happened They lost to Baker in the playoffs. So that's
what this team is. You can get to the play
You can get to the playoffs with an average offense.
If your defense is great. You're not winning games. Not
in the AFC and these days not in the NFC.
I think the NFC has gotten better very quickly because
(39:42):
a couple of teams hit quarterbacks. All right, Colin right,
Colin Wrong Coming up next
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