December 10, 2024 • 41 mins
Colin unveils the latest Herd Hierarchy ranking the top 10 NFL teams after week 14
Thoughts on Bill Belichick possibly being the next head coach for UNC
Guest: Nick Wright
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Here we go, it's our two live in Los Angeles.
It's the Hurt, A lot of energy. Busy day yesterday
crashed eight and a half hours.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I never sleep like that. And you know what I
did yesterday.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I'd been driving by this incredible taco place in La
a million times. I'd never stopped by, and I was
just waiting for the moment, and I stopped by yesterday.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Three Chicken tacos, Chip Squawk out of this world.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
You ever drive by a place and you're like, I
gotta go there someday and tomorrow. I should say the
name of the place and give them love, because I
was starving.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
To start with.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
Three levels is a two where.
Speaker 6 (01:01):
No, there's something state in it. Okay, I'll figure it out.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
But it was I'd been driving by this place forever,
and I'm like, I gotta try that. It was like
a local place, and I got I gotta go there,
and I did yesterday.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
And so congrats to that place.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
So you're back on tacos. That's good.
Speaker 6 (01:16):
I I heard a guy mentioned Chipotle and he got
like the gold card where you could just get free Chipotle.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
This was a this was a notch above that.
Speaker 6 (01:24):
So I had I went back to Chipotle, and it's
actually kind of good. I was off it for like
nine years because I got an allergic reaction, but I
went back and.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
It's not bad.
Speaker 6 (01:31):
So to beans, I mean, I don't do beans, okay, sorry,
ever nice to know, all right, we do it every
Tuesday at this time. I gotta tell you we got
some good teams in the NFL, because my number ten
team is pretty darn good.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Here we go heard hierarchy time is now go the
top ten of NFL teams according to College number ten.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I don't think the Rams could duplicate that effort again
this season. But Matt Stafford, Sean McVay, Kyron Williams, Cooper Cup,
Puka Nakua, Rob Havenstein. I mean they've got pieces here.
They've got five or six really top of the chart
pieces and when Matt Stafford has time to throw and
they didn't allow a sack against Buffalo, he is beautiful.
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He's what Aaron Rodgers wishes he still was. When you
give Stafford time to throw, he's in that Borough class.
It is just different. Rams at ten, number nine, you know,
the Seahawks look at Baltimore's defense. Since Seattle hired their
coordinator as head coach, held in three of their last
four games, they've held offenses under twenty points. And Gino Smith,
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you know, he's second in the league in completions to
Joe Burrow. But they're on a four game winning streak
since the buye. I think John Sneyder has put together
the last couple of years excellent drafts, and I don't
think there are a lot of holes in this roster.
Think I don't think they're special at quarterback, but they're
certainly good enough I think to make the playoffs and
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potentially win a playoff game.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
Seattle at nine, number eight Steelers.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
George Pickens absence really was impactful they really needed. But
Russell Wilson six and one as a starter. Here's what
I like. They're four to zero against teams with winning records,
so they tend. It's Mike Tomlin's history is he is
a great underdog coach. Now they got the Eagles coming
up at Philly, at the Ravens and the Chiefs, so
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we're gonna find out contender or pretender in the next
three weeks.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Number seven the Ravens.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Listen, they have five losses by a combined twenty two points.
They're losing the teams like you know, the Chiefs. Number
one total offense, number two rushing offense.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
They get penalized way too much. That is a problem.
And their past defense what I don't like about this team.
They're like a baseball team with the bad bullpen. They
can outplay and lose. This team can outplay you, but
on the back end they are leaking so much oil
that they can lose games they should win. So I
think Baltimore is out of the Super Bowl bubble with
a back end of their defense. Number six, you keep
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waiting for the Minnesota bubble to burst, and they're on
a six game winning streak, seven to one in one
score games. You know who else is good at one
score games? Kansas City. Really good coaches and good quarterbacks
are good in one score game. Sam Darnold in the
last month, eleven touchdowns, no picks. There was an aspiring
young sportscaster years ago that said he was going to
be a great player.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Hey it took a while.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Hey all I know is this Minnesota's really good? Are
they great?
Speaker 3 (04:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Number five, the Packers are closer to great now. I
think they're a year away. They're like Detroit last year.
They're really young. But they become a power run team
behind Josh Jacobs, so they are taking a lot of
the responsibility from Jordan Love, who can be at tad
reckless despite being an excellent talent. So they are now
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kind of a power running team. And for years and
years with Aaron Rodgers, we were always like, they don't
have much of a run game. Oh they got it now,
Josh Jacobs, they got it now. Green Bay at five.
Number four, Buffalo super talented, but they beat themselves Rams.
They had a block punt, nine guys on the field.
They're two and three against winning record teams. Why because
you got to have it buttoned up against winning record
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and winning teams. Now they're not allowing sacks anymore. And
the Rams had a good defensive front That's why Josh
Allen's putting up these numbers. I like their roster, I
like their momentum, but I don't trust them in big games.
And the Rams are an inferior team to the Bills.
And the Rams blocked a punt and the Rams didn't
waste a time out at the goal line. So Buffalo's great,
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and I do my final four teams I think are
super Bowl teams, but they really concern me in close games.
Number three Philadelphia, So do they, Nick Siriani. Now we've
got AJ Brown and Jalen Hurts don't get along. But
clearly since the bye, the coaching staff has been very intentional.
They become a run team over a pass team. Clearly
Saquon Barkley is leading them. It's got a Christian McCaffrey
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niners field like they like the quarterback, don't love him.
So I think it's a very very good team. I
think they have the best roster in the league, slightly
better than Detroit. But I've got my issues in tight
spots with the coach and the quarterback. Number two Kansas
City first team in NFL history to have three plus
kickers with game winning field goals as time expired in
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a single season. Listen, they're ten to zero in games
decided buy seven or less. And you can keep telling
me it's luck. It's not luck, it's their brand, it's
their business model. They're such a complex team because of
the best third down team of the sport, and yet
they're only averaging five yards of play, which is the
worst in the Mahomes era. So they're not as explosive.
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They're not gonna give you the total yards. They're not
gonna blow you away. But they've never been better than
I'm third down. So that's the complexity of this dynasty.
It's got a Patriots feel. You don't feel they have
the best roster, but they have the best coach, the
best quarterback, and like Michael Jordan, when you need a bucket,
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that's the team you want. KC It two number one
Buy an inch Detroit.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Since Week nine to twenty twenty two, they're thirty four
and nine, half of them blowouts. They have the number
one scoring offense and the number one offensive line. They're
the one team I think could make Mahomes sit on
the sidelines and watch a game. I trust Mahomes to
meat everybody in this League. Detroit has the personnel to
say we're gonna play keep away and have a nine
minute drive. So that's the kind of personnel they have.
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And the other thing is about Detroit is aiden Hutchinson
got hurt, hasn't hurt the defense.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Now, I think a lot of that.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Is because they lead and so their defense knows what's coming.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
They're not in a lot of close games, so the
defense can pin their ears back and go for the
pass rush. But I have them as by an inch
as a number one team. And now we go to
Nick Wright. Here we go, Nick Wright, Let's start with
my top ten pick it apart.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
What say you, Well.
Speaker 7 (08:00):
You have two obvious flaws.
Speaker 8 (08:03):
You were on a good run of Herd hierarchy, but
two obvious flaws. One is this, I am willing to
wager any amount of money that if we get your
top two teams in the Super Bowl and you are
staring for two weeks at Reied Mahomes versus Campbell Golf,
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you are picking the Chiefs. There is no chance you
pick the Lions if they play each other in the
Super Bowl, none whatsoever. So in that circumstance, I'd say
the Chiefs should be one and the other question. The
other one is this, why are the Ravens ahead of
the Steelers. I understand the Ravens didn't play this week,
but they had lost two of their previous three. When
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they played each other head to head, they lost, Like,
I don't understand the argument, especially because Russell Wilson's one
of your long loss adopted sons.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
How you would have.
Speaker 8 (08:59):
The Ravens ahead of the Steelers. That surprises me.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I have to say, Well, Pickens was out this week
and it became increasingly clear they are super dependent on
him down the field, so that worries me.
Speaker 8 (09:13):
But but I but they want anyway, teams need their
good players. I agree teams need. The teams there worse
without their good players. That is definitively true. Except I
just think the Steelers are better than Baltimore.
Speaker 7 (09:25):
That's sorry.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
So I'm going to come back to the Chiefs, but
I want to start with Philadelphia. So clearly since the bye,
they have said we want Jalen Hurts throwing less, and
it's working, and now AJ Brown's not happy with it.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
You know, it's just a holiday tradition.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Philadelphia gets in their own way, and Nick Seriani doesn't
do personnel or call plays, and it feels like, just
get the locker room right.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
This worries me. Does it worry you?
Speaker 7 (09:53):
It worries me too.
Speaker 8 (09:55):
And I've come around all the way on the Eagles,
where I a few weeks ago pick them to win
the conference because my preseason picked the Chicago Bears. While
not officially eliminated, I've got to say not looking great
for the Bears, so I had.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
To pivot off that column hot.
Speaker 8 (10:10):
This Eagles story bothers me for two reasons. The first
one is what you said, I don't trust Sirianni to
get his arms around it, and we saw last year
this team was ten to one, it started to get
away from him and it absolutely twistered into as bad
of a collapse as we've ever seen, culminating in a
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team just quitting in a playoff game.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
So that worries me.
Speaker 8 (10:36):
The other part of this that has bothersome is I
think aj Brown is so wildly out of line here,
it's incomprehensible. You are arguably the best player on the team.
Speaker 7 (10:49):
You have been.
Speaker 8 (10:51):
You got paid as a first round pick. The Eagles
didn't trade it for you and paid you top of market.
This offseason. They paid you again, so a brand new contract.
So it's not even like, oh, I'm in a contract year.
Not throwing the ball is gonna hurt my numbers. You
are one of the best players, a veteran, a leader
on a team that has won seven in a row.
Speaker 7 (11:12):
That is eleven and two.
Speaker 8 (11:13):
The only narrative out of the locker room should be huh,
you guys thought our defense couldn't do it?
Speaker 7 (11:20):
How about the improving You wrong?
Speaker 8 (11:22):
And we're so excited that Saquon is gonna break Eric
Dickerson's record.
Speaker 7 (11:27):
That's all you gotta do.
Speaker 8 (11:29):
If privately, quietly, behind the scenes, you want to say
I want more touches, so be it. But for Aj
Brown out of nowhere, to start a fire, and then
Brandon Graham, who's on the team, he's not retired, he
maybe will be soon. He's on the team, to go
on the radio and be like, yeah, it's to shame.
Jalen and Aj used to be friends and they're not anymore.
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Out of nowhere, the Eagles are in disarray again, and
so it's totally self inflicted and I certainly don't trust
Siriani to be able to fix it. Listen, you can
only shave your head once like he already played that card.
Speaker 7 (12:07):
So I don't know what the next move.
Speaker 8 (12:08):
Is, and I just I'm worried about Philadelphia for sure.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
I have tried to be, you know, humble on Sam Darnald.
It's getting increasingly difficult. He looks like the world's greatest player.
So but it's really a dilemma because JJ McCarthy played
for a run first college team, got hurt, second surgery.
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He could be very good. Donald is close to the MVP.
Conversation and momentum in this league is a real thing.
Daniel Jones, isn't it. JJ McCarthy may not be it.
Do you just let Darnald walk? I think you have
to franchise tag him, don't you.
Speaker 8 (12:54):
I think you franchise tag him just to trade him
and make sure sim what the Patriots did with Matt
Castle a lifetime ago to the Chiefs and try to
get a second round pick or something for him. I
think if you're Kevin O'Connell and you won thirteen games
with Kirk Cousins and it looks like you're gonna win
thirteen games or more with Sam Darnald, you have a
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belief your system with this talent can win double digit games.
And there is a reason you moved off Kirk Cousins
to go get JJ McCarthy, and it was because you
thought your team with that talent, a quarterback on a
rookie pay scale and more upside, is the way to go.
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I don't I certainly don't think you can pay Donald
what the market will pay him.
Speaker 7 (13:43):
I think he's gonna get a lot of money.
Speaker 8 (13:45):
I think somebody is gonna have listened to you for
the last decade, watch this film and be like, my god,
this is the player I saw coming out of UFC.
That coward's never been able to quit. But I think
the Vikings should franchise to trade, not franchise to keep.
Speaker 7 (14:02):
I think you got to give JJ.
Speaker 8 (14:04):
McCarthy full ownership of that team next offseason.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
So we had Jamack and I had a severe disagreement.
I said there's a time and a place for everything,
and Belichick attacking the UNC job, and apparently he came
with a binder like four hundred rules. I won't do this,
I won't do that, And I said, Caroline is too
good of a job. It's a top twenty job to
basically be backed into a corner and been told by
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a guy that's never coached college this or I'm out.
I'm like, I'm not interested in that. I get Belichick
doing it, but I don't have to agree with your push.
Jamak think And I said to Jmack, if you had
the choice that he will be a disaster in college
or he'll be Saban, and you had to choose one,
I would choose disaster doesn't work. Can't stand the donors.
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But Jamack and others think, oh, this is Saban reincarnated.
I don't see it, do you well?
Speaker 7 (15:01):
Even if it, I don't think.
Speaker 8 (15:03):
Listen, if I can only pick disaster or maybe the
greatest college coach ever, I'll pick disaster. I think I believe,
and I would assume you probably believe it's more likely
somewhere in the middle. Yes, that he's fine but not overwhelming,
and at seventy two years old, And I do think
it's fair to question a seventy two year old that,
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at least through Instagram and some of his public personal decisions,
might be going through some things. Ye that if he's
the guy I want to turn my college program over to,
when I think he's then turning it over to his
son in two or three years. I have a different
theory about why all of a sudden, Belichick is looking
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at the college game, and I think it's twofold. One
is I think he is very nervous that he is
not going to get if he waits for the NFL jobs,
he's not going to get one. That there's gonna be
seven or eight openings and seven or eight teams are
gonna pass, and if that happens, his coaching career is
kind of over. The Other thing is everyone assumed he's
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at three hundred and thirty three total wins Shula is
at three forty seven, that it's so important to him
to go get that record. I wonder if Bill is
doing the same math I'm doing, which is saying, all right,
even if you go get that record, are you just
holding it for a year for Andy Reid?
Speaker 7 (16:34):
And I know people are like, on Nick, your chief's guy.
Here are the numbers.
Speaker 8 (16:38):
Andy is at two hundred and ninety six. Since Patrick
has been there, they average fifteen wins a year, playoffs
in regular season combined fifteen a year. He's gonna end
this season right around three hundred if he's at two
ninety six right now, he'll be forty seven away from
Shula himself. That means three great years or four mediocre years.
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So how important is that all time coaching record if
you actually only hold it for twelve months before Andy
Reid comes blows past you. Which Andy signed a five year,
one hundred million dollar contract with the Chiefs. Reportedly, if
he coaches those five years, he is going to run
away with this thing.
Speaker 7 (17:22):
So I think all of that is happening here.
Speaker 8 (17:25):
I would imagine North Carolina doesn't have the stomach to
say no to Belichick, but I don't know that.
Speaker 7 (17:31):
I think it's a great fit for anyone involved.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
So you know what I want to and with This
is interesting. So I was thinking to you the other
day when Buffalo was letting Matt stafford. I mean, it
was a seven on seven passing camp and a punt
blocked and nine guys on the field, and I was thinking,
this is exactly in what Nick talks about.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
But here's the thing, and I mentioned this earlier.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Are the Bills the Warriors with Mark Jackson, he starts
a structure, they get to fifty wins, They're very good
in a playoff team. Kerr comes in in terms Steph
from star to superstar and really the flips, the Draymond switch,
Mark Jackson was good, Sean McDermott's good Kerr was great,
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and that McDermott.
Speaker 8 (18:21):
Is that's a really I think that's a really unique
colm and I hadn't thought of it that way. I
also wonder if there's just too many close game clock management. Yeah,
a tough loss fiascos for McDermott. Think about it, Colin.
This has kind of been forgotten. So I thought the
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end of that game was it. And again I believe
in the Bills this year. Before the year picked and
win the AFC East, thought they could be the tour
of the three seed.
Speaker 7 (18:49):
It looks like that's where they're gonna land.
Speaker 8 (18:51):
I thought Josh Allen plus the best offensive and defensive
lines he's ever had. That's eleven wins minimum, and they're
gonna blow past that. However, the end of game stuff
is a concern with this guy and the quarterback sneak
and shout out to Tom Brady. I thought he was
all over it and exactly right. What you cannot use
a time out there, It's the worst thing you can do.
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But then you mentioned the nine guys on the field
on the pump block, and it reminded me of a
game that kind of gotten for kind of got forgotten
to last year's history. Last year, Russell Wilson and the
Broncos are playing the Buffalo Bills. They kick what should
be the game winning field goal down one. Yes, they
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miss it, and the Bills had twelve on the field. Yeah,
so they got another shot at it and made it
so last year and that was for the Bills to
drop to I think six and six. It was right
before they were on that winning streak. You had twelve
on the field. This year, in your last gasp of
a game, you have nine on the field. There's just
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a lot of situational act that it just feels like, man,
you cannot make those types of errors against reading Mahomes
in the playoffs. And if you do lose this, if
they if they play the Chiefs in the playoffs this year,
which they hope to be able to.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
Do, and you lose, that's four out of five.
Speaker 8 (20:22):
Years the same team has sent you home in the playoffs.
Speaker 7 (20:27):
Man, oh man, that's tough the stomach, it is.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Nick Right co hosts First Things First, as always, my
friend a good day, Good holiday season to you and
the fam.
Speaker 7 (20:38):
Absolutely great to see you talk to tomorrow night. Thanks Colling,
You bet all right?
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Good stuff. Yeah, the I think.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
So let's say Belichick's not saban or a disaster.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
I love how you framed that. By the way, Let's
go to the polar opposite ends of this.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Okay, but here's what I think is real. Belichick does
it for a year and they're fine. But by the
second year, he is over the collective, he's over the donors,
he's over the NCAA, he doesn't have any loyalty. He's
not I mean, I guess there's some parental history at Carolina,
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but I think college coaching is harder than it's ever been,
not easier.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
So some of these people online are now following Belichick's
girlfriend on Instagram, and they have noticed she has started
following a bunch of North Carolina accounts the University of
North Carolina, North Carolina Football football nutrition, So people are
connecting the dots. Colin, it seems like it's gonna happen.
I just don't see why you would be against North Carolina.
Would you say they are a top twenty football football
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program in the country.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yeah, top twenty yeah, facilities stay about that time.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
Twenty yeah. I don't know if they know they'd be
top twenty five. I mean Washington Huskies have a better
football program than in North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Target, Yeah, Washington's probably. I think Washington probably thirteenth.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
For you would probably put almost every SEC school, almost
every Big ten school.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I wouldn't I get to live in a beautiful area
with legendary university in one of the one of the
nicest areas in the country to live. It's got legendary.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Program, ol Mister North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I would take the North Carolina job in one second.
What do you want to play LSU, Alabama, Georgia? Do
you want to play them every year?
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Texas?
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Would we rather go to Carolina and get a bunch
of layups and go eleven and one and then get
into the playoff?
Speaker 5 (22:31):
Every easy way out you coastal elite.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
No, it's not the hard droop a life in the
last ten years. Look at how many SEC coaches have
been fired, is it is it.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
Eighty sixteen seventy something with a bunch of rings from
the from the NFL, the varsity.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
I would take Carolina overall.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
Miss I think you're in a minority five University of Florida.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Well, no, that's the state University at Florida. I would
take you.
Speaker 7 (22:57):
I mean, I'll tell you.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
I'll tell you my wife. I could get her to
go to Chapel Hill.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
Well wait, now you can bring it in a different you're.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Talking about everything.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I think it's an easier place to sell Florida State's
gone crazy.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
A better football job.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
FSU or unmocab FSU, Big Ten. At least ten schools
in the Big ten are better, far better name them.
I mean you want to start Michigan, Ohio State right
out of the state. State for Oregon, absolutely, usc Washington,
U Claw, No.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
No, not Ucla. I'll take Carolina, not Ucla. They're collective pushback.
Couldn't buy this cup of coffee.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Indiana Hoosiers, Oh you got I'll take Carolina, Illinois, Carolina, Minnesota,
go Carolina.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
No, no, they come on, they got a great coach.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
No, you can't have so many schools. I forget Northwestern,
Come on, Chicago. You love Northwestern.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
It's an academic power. They have thirty two students. It's
a tiny school.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
They've got a great new facility.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
Don't they have one?
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Of the Carolina is a good job. It's a good job.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
Top twenty.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Yeah, it maybe eighteenth, but it's a good job.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Is it top five in the ACC?
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Come on, you can't name six.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
Clemson for sure. Clemson's the bad FSU for sure.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
Yes, it's two. And then after that, I'll take Carolina.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Where are you on?
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Like virgin Uva.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
From Virginia, Virginia Tech. What year were we talking about?
Speaker 2 (24:30):
What year?
Speaker 3 (24:30):
What year is that?
Speaker 7 (24:31):
Virginia?
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Virginia great law school. They're basketball coaches,
Like I'm out of here, and they have a better
basketball than football program.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
I got to read some spots.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
You just really love this Belichick topic.
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Speaker 1 (24:54):
So I've been saying this. I said going into this season,
I had the Cowboys missing the playoffs. I had Philadelphia
winning the division, Washington finishing second. And that's how it looks.
So this division NFC East, I've got in order so far.
I had Philly, Washington, Dallas, and the New York Giants.
So I got that one right, it appears, and they
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have very limited cap space going forward, even if they
restructure Dak's deal, which they will. But you can kick
that down that road as long as you want. You
can kick that can down the road. You're paying a
B plus quarterback A plus money you got paid the
piper eventually. And the second thing is Dak's on his
second lower body injury and after the first one he
got less mobile, so he and Cooper rush DA's better
(25:39):
not that much. I mean, there's limitations on Dak now.
So I predicted all off season this year would be
the beginning of a half a decade slide into mediocrity
and irrelevance. And I mean this has become the Lakers
systemic family issues. You've got like one star player and
then one a jing star player, and then a roster
(26:01):
full of average guys and that's the Lakers ad and
old Lebron and just guys. And I mean the Cowboys
have been run. I think on this premise they're too
big to fail. Go ask Chrysler, who now only makes minivans.
And by the way, ironically, Chrysler's logo, like the Cowboys,
used to be a single star. So That's what Dallas
(26:24):
is becoming to me, very very average, systemic family issues.
Too many Jones in the kitchen, need outside influence. You
got a couple of elite players, neither one Micah or
Ceedee Lamb appear very happy. Here's Micah after last night's loss.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
I'm really sold this one. This one hurt me more
than any loss this year, probably even worse than a
playoff loss, to be honest, because.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Where we were going, how we were playing.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Between the players, I mean, so many situations. It's just
I want to say snowballing, but I don't know. It
seems like we're paying a due. That's not fair. We
can't let these type of games slip away like we
did today.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Well, it's better than early in the season when they
were just getting blown out at home. So they're closing
the gap on mediocrity. Jmak with the news.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Turn on the news. This is the herd Line News.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
All right, we'll going back to Philly and the Steelers.
There's drama in Philadelphia. Colin Yea ahead of the big
game with Brandon Graham, Aaron dirty laundry on the Jalen
Hurts AJ Brown fractured relationship. This comes following the Eagles
players letting their frustrations with the pass game be unknown.
Despite the turmoil, Nick Sirianni sees the frustration as a positive.
Speaker 9 (27:46):
Of course, I like the fact that guys when we
don't reach our standard of how we want to play
and show everybody how we play each week, that they're
disappointed in that. But you also have to remind them
in those moments it's hard to win, and that you
have to enjoy enjoy those moments because I know this,
Elliott that when you when you lose, that that will
(28:10):
sit with you and then you'll be really and you
get and you're sick about that, and so you have
to balance that out from when you win to enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yeah, AJ Brown's not but his premise is right. This
is something Dan Campbell talks about a lot. It is
hard to win. They're not all pretty. Kansas City's had
a two year stretch where almost none of their wins
are pretty outside of the Zuper Bowls.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
You just got to enjoy winning in this league. It's hard.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
You had to reference Kansas City Hunt well, they.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Win all the time.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
So I don't know what what do you do if
you're sirian do you say anything or let this play
out like this is not again. I know that we
think Sirianni's safe and everything, Colin, I'm just telling you,
if this continues to bubble up, there's another cratering here
in the end of December and they go out in
the first round of the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
Well, let me ask you, are you sure Sirianni's back.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
His record right now?
Speaker 5 (28:59):
I don't care what his record is.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Forty five and nineteen. It's the fifth highest winning percentage
by any coach in league history.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
Wonderful.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
Hey, you know what, Bill Belichick took Matt Jones to
the playoffs? Okay, mac Jones barely is a backup in
this league now, Like, if you want, you want to
bring up other stuff from the past, go sure, go
for it with Nick Sirianni's record.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
What have you done for me lately? Currently? It's a
nine game win tre Yeah, nine, that's what he's done.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
Like and a fractured locker room, Well, he's got good.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
It's not a fractured locker room. It is one receiver
who wants the ball more.
Speaker 6 (29:32):
And you got Brandon grim airing dirty laundry bat either
they got locker room problems.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
It's not perfect.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Yeah, interesting, you're coming around on that.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
Hey, speaking of not perfect, let's go to the Chicago Bears. Boy,
they're drama filled. They fired Ibra Flus and then got
their doors blown off by the Niners.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Well here is the latest.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
Apparently, GM Ryan Poles is unhappy with the team's power structure.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
Take a listen.
Speaker 10 (30:01):
When Kevin Warren was hired, he was frustrated with that
from the start, that he never loved it. It was
not a personal thing with Kevin, but it was something
that he didn't like that he went from reporting to
the owner to now having to report to a team
president who reports to the owner. There was a go between,
(30:23):
and he was very.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Vocal about that.
Speaker 10 (30:25):
The people he trusted inside the building that maybe he
never would have taken the job to begin with.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
That is a intrigition.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
I'll tell you that Kevin Warren is there are growing
concerns here.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
I think that's the guy you gotta run on.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Well, I don't know that yet, I just I just know.
Speaker 6 (30:43):
I asked people, but well, Jim Harbaugh had beef with
this guy. Okay, Now Ryan Poles has beef.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
And I like Royan Poles. Let me just state this,
take the Chase Claypool move out. You know, unlike again
the internet, nobody is perfect drafting. It's hard. But Poles
has hit a lot of home runs. I love the
Montez sweat deal. He got crapped on for that in Chicago.
I love that move. The first day minute that made it.
(31:10):
I said, that is a great move.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Home run.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Jalen Johnson, the DJ Moore move, Keenan Allen Is I
think I think he's drafted. He's drafted pretty well.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
Okay, Darnell Wright has done serviceable the kids.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
With Johnson, Okay, they've had some ok picks.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
Well, it's more than just drafting its acquisitions, right.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
The DJ Moore move was we like that?
Speaker 3 (31:32):
I did that?
Speaker 6 (31:33):
Well?
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Yeah Dj Moore, Yeah that was a great move.
Speaker 7 (31:37):
It was a good pick.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Dunzay and Caleb that he gets that.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
So he's done a good job.
Speaker 6 (31:41):
I just I want to know what what this guy wore.
I need to know more about his role, like besides
reporting to me.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I think there we're just hearing a lot of Harball
Ryan Poles issues with Lauren.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
That's what we're hearing.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
And I have enough sources in Chicago that I call,
and it's it's there is a there's a power dynamic
that people are questioning.
Speaker 6 (32:01):
Yeah, and you know it's a relationship business, Colin, you
have to have the GM and coach on the same page,
like if they're not Harbaugh.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Harbaugh reportedly wanted the job and would have been the
perfect fit.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
That's all I need to hear.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
I know for a lot of people, that's that's what
Harbaugh and polls his level. Obviously they're different. But just
like if you.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
Don't want to work with Harbaugh, a proven winner, I
think he's not hearing.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
Joam's not for everybody, but I agree.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
No, No, I like winners. Do you like winners?
Speaker 3 (32:26):
I like winners. I like Harball's.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (32:29):
Final story is the Detroit Lions the first eleven game
win streak in franchise history thanks to Jared Goff playing
amazing the offensive line. Everybody's good, but listen, Goff is
an elite company.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
Are you ready for this?
Speaker 6 (32:42):
If Detroit can not win number thirteen, he would be
the third quarterback to have thirteen win seasons with different teams.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
The other two names on that list, do you want
to guess them?
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Joe Montana.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
Nope, Tom Brady, Tom Brady won Let me think, Let me.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Think that guy's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Also, Carson Palmer or something.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
He's better than this, guy's way better than that. Peyton, Manning,
Denver and Indian.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
So Jared Goff winning thirteen games with the Rams and
Lions is in the same universe as Brady and Peyton.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
When do we start talking Hall of Fame for Jared Goff?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I don't know. Oh.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
I think if he puts up two or three more
seasons like this, absolutely, if he gets to a second
Super Bowl winner lose, you gotta get there's votes.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
See. The problem is he doesn't have an MVP. He's
never been considered the best quarterback in the league. He's
been very good, elevated by McVeigh.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
But if he gets to a second Super Bowl, that's
pretty damn good.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
He's really really good. He's really good player.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
I mean, Philip Rivers is going to get votes in discussion,
and I think Goff's better than Philip Rivers.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Makes fewer mistakes.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
Oh, that's a good one. Look at golf's numbers. Is
your seventy two percent completions? That's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Yeah, it's he's one of those guys that's all steak
and no sizzle.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Like he has no sizzle.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
And so he's the opposite of he has Kyler Murray,
who's a ton of sizzle.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
But we questioned the state he has some sizzle.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
He married a s I swimsuit model, and well, what
that's a lot of sizzle. What are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (34:12):
That's not the kind of sizzle.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
What do you what's your sizzle?
Speaker 1 (34:15):
You know, dynamic, big arm, move around, Sam Darnold, Josh Allen,
Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
You watch the game and you're like.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
That, Wow, his thing is beautiful, beautiful distributor of the
football with time to throw. I always said I thought
he was a better Matt Ryan, and Matt Ryan was excellent.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Matt Ryan want an MVP.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Matt Ryan's really good.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Oh that's a good comparison.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
Career. Wow, But I think he I think he's got
a little stronger arm than Matt Ryan.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
And I thought Matt was excellent.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
So Bill's that Lions, that's it.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
I like Buffalo that. I like Buffalo really listen. Extra
time to prepare for.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
The Lions samon straight road game for the Bills.
Speaker 6 (34:56):
They go from Orchard Park to La. I gotta check
it thing all the way back and then back to Detroit.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
It's jet travel.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
The young travel coastal elites in private.
Speaker 6 (35:05):
Yeah, they don't plan Beijing.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
They'll be fine.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Oh they flew all the way to La on a
rag jet with sandwiches and soup and fresh coffee.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
They're fun.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
It's late in the season, my friend. These guys are
worn down, they're tired. Everybody's banged up. It ain't easy
out there being a football player. I don't care if
you're flying awesome jets.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
It's tough.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Hey, all I know is Row twenty eight on Southwest Airlines.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
I I sleep like a baby.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
You've never sat behind Row eight? Come on, get out
of here?
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Will come on? Maybe Pro seven, But I I like it.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
You know what, Jared?
Speaker 6 (35:38):
You know what Jared Goff doesn't get what's your favorite comedian?
Speaker 5 (35:42):
Always talks about what respect? Set it up?
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Baby?
Speaker 3 (35:49):
All right? J Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
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Speaker 1 (36:31):
So uh, the big story is Yesterday Belichick met with
a chancellor of North Carolina, brought in a four hundred
page binder and said, here are the rules. I'll take
the job. I wouldn't want to be back into a corner.
I understand he's Belichick. The ACC is a bad conference.
He can make them relevant, but he's not a long
term solution. The other part of this dynamic I don't
(36:51):
like it all is he's basically gonna take the job
if you'll hire his son, not interested whatsoever. That feels
like the late Bobby Knight. If you'll hire Pat Knight,
I'll do. I'm not interested in that. I don't think
departing head coaches should get any say in who the
next coach is. I think North Carolina is a very
good job. I think it's an underrated job. I don't
(37:13):
think it's Clemson. I don't think it's Florida. I don't
think it's Oklahoma. But I think it's it's somewhere after Washington.
It's in the like seventeen eighteen. It may just be
a spot below like Auburn, who's you know, was kind
of a dysfunctional mass or Washington that's got a natty,
but it's a good program, well capitalized. Nick Wright earlier
(37:35):
on Belichick working in college at Carolina.
Speaker 8 (37:39):
At seventy two years old, And I do think it's
fair to question a seventy two year old that, at
least through Instagram and some of his public personal decisions,
might be going through some things that if he's the
guy I want to turn my college program over to,
when I think he's turning it over to his son
(38:02):
in two or three years. I have a different theory
about why all of a sudden Belichick is looking at
the college game and I think it's twofold. One is
I think he is very nervous that he is not
going to get if he waits for the NFL jobs,
he's not going to get one. Yeah, that there is
going to be seven or eight openings and seven or
(38:24):
eight teams are going to pass, and if that happens,
his coaching career is kind of over.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
And this is very interesting. I've seen this before. It's
very Bobby Knight. Is that Bobby Knight. He didn't want
to do one and done. The culture's bigger than you.
And you know, Bill's like I want to say, in personnel,
nobody's interested. He's not good at that. So I think
money corrupts power influences. I think Belichick is very proud guy.
(38:54):
He's a brilliant football guy. And it's like my way
the highway. And the truth is college football coaching is now,
Jay Wright, I'm out, Saban, no thanks, like really good coaches,
Bob Stoops could come back anytime he wanted to.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
No thank you.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
So I think the recruiting is a pain in the bot.
I think it's a young man's game. But this is
I mean, Mike Skrzyzewski didn't want to do the one
and done, and then he figured out after about three years,
I'm getting beat by the one and done guys, so
he pivoted. That's why Mike Skrzyzewski is a better all
time coach than Bobby Knight. Bobby didn't evolve. He just
couldn't evolve. He was into his ego and his vanity,
(39:33):
in his power and his influence. He couldn't get, as
they say, over himself. I think Belichick needs he can
get an NFL job. But if Bill's gonna say I
want personnel, feel you're bad at it. You're not Jimmy
Johnson at it. You're not Pete Carroll at it. You're
not Sean Payton at it. It's not what you do.
You're a You're the best defensive coach ever. You're one
of the smartest coaches. You're a culture and a tone setter.
(39:55):
You're a very, very bright guy. I'm a huge Belichick fan.
But everybody's got a hole in the world. Every company's
got a hole. Why Because companies are just human beings
and we're all flawed and vulnerable, and we make mistakes.
The biggest, strongest companies. It could be Meta, it could
be Google. They've got holes. Every company's got holes. Every
coach has holes, and it's personnel for him. So I
(40:16):
think the NFL teams are like, you're not touching personnel.
That's why I always thought Philadelphia was a great job
for him, because Howie Roseman as good a GM as
there is, and Bill would get no say in personnel.
And I think Philadelphia is the place to go. But
he's not. Bill will not be allowed to usurp Howie
Roseman his power or influence, nor should he. How he's
(40:37):
great at that, how he didn't try to coach, You're
not going to touch his personnel. So that's just the
reality of it in college.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Good luck.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
I just I don't really mind sacrificing some things to
get Bill in Carolina, but I have to hire your coach,
your son. What if Bill after a year says I
don't like this, You got to hire my son. Is
there something that protects North Carolina? Like how long will
Bill coach? And what after the first recruiting class, Bill
(41:07):
privately like I got no interest coaching. My son gets
it for ten years now, Like that
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Here we go, it's our two live in Los Angeles.
It's the Hurt, A lot of energy. Busy day yesterday
crashed eight and a half hours.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I never sleep like that. And you know what I
did yesterday.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I'd been driving by this incredible taco place in La
a million times. I'd never stopped by, and I was
just waiting for the moment, and I stopped by yesterday.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Three Chicken tacos, Chip Squawk out of this world.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
You ever drive by a place and you're like, I
gotta go there someday and tomorrow. I should say the
name of the place and give them love, because I
was starving.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
To start with.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
Three levels is a two where.
Speaker 6 (01:01):
No, there's something state in it. Okay, I'll figure it out.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
But it was I'd been driving by this place forever,
and I'm like, I gotta try that. It was like
a local place, and I got I gotta go there,
and I did yesterday.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
And so congrats to that place.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
So you're back on tacos. That's good.
Speaker 6 (01:16):
I I heard a guy mentioned Chipotle and he got
like the gold card where you could just get free Chipotle.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
This was a this was a notch above that.
Speaker 6 (01:24):
So I had I went back to Chipotle, and it's
actually kind of good. I was off it for like
nine years because I got an allergic reaction, but I
went back and.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
It's not bad.
Speaker 6 (01:31):
So to beans, I mean, I don't do beans, okay, sorry,
ever nice to know, all right, we do it every
Tuesday at this time. I gotta tell you we got
some good teams in the NFL, because my number ten
team is pretty darn good.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Here we go heard hierarchy time is now go the
top ten of NFL teams according to College number ten.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I don't think the Rams could duplicate that effort again
this season. But Matt Stafford, Sean McVay, Kyron Williams, Cooper Cup,
Puka Nakua, Rob Havenstein. I mean they've got pieces here.
They've got five or six really top of the chart
pieces and when Matt Stafford has time to throw and
they didn't allow a sack against Buffalo, he is beautiful.
(02:16):
He's what Aaron Rodgers wishes he still was. When you
give Stafford time to throw, he's in that Borough class.
It is just different. Rams at ten, number nine, you know,
the Seahawks look at Baltimore's defense. Since Seattle hired their
coordinator as head coach, held in three of their last
four games, they've held offenses under twenty points. And Gino Smith,
(02:40):
you know, he's second in the league in completions to
Joe Burrow. But they're on a four game winning streak
since the buye. I think John Sneyder has put together
the last couple of years excellent drafts, and I don't
think there are a lot of holes in this roster.
Think I don't think they're special at quarterback, but they're
certainly good enough I think to make the playoffs and
(03:00):
potentially win a playoff game.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
Seattle at nine, number eight Steelers.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
George Pickens absence really was impactful they really needed. But
Russell Wilson six and one as a starter. Here's what
I like. They're four to zero against teams with winning records,
so they tend. It's Mike Tomlin's history is he is
a great underdog coach. Now they got the Eagles coming
up at Philly, at the Ravens and the Chiefs, so
(03:27):
we're gonna find out contender or pretender in the next
three weeks.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Number seven the Ravens.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Listen, they have five losses by a combined twenty two points.
They're losing the teams like you know, the Chiefs. Number
one total offense, number two rushing offense.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
They get penalized way too much. That is a problem.
And their past defense what I don't like about this team.
They're like a baseball team with the bad bullpen. They
can outplay and lose. This team can outplay you, but
on the back end they are leaking so much oil
that they can lose games they should win. So I
think Baltimore is out of the Super Bowl bubble with
a back end of their defense. Number six, you keep
(04:06):
waiting for the Minnesota bubble to burst, and they're on
a six game winning streak, seven to one in one
score games. You know who else is good at one
score games? Kansas City. Really good coaches and good quarterbacks
are good in one score game. Sam Darnold in the
last month, eleven touchdowns, no picks. There was an aspiring
young sportscaster years ago that said he was going to
be a great player.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Hey it took a while.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Hey all I know is this Minnesota's really good? Are
they great?
Speaker 3 (04:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Number five, the Packers are closer to great now. I
think they're a year away. They're like Detroit last year.
They're really young. But they become a power run team
behind Josh Jacobs, so they are taking a lot of
the responsibility from Jordan Love, who can be at tad
reckless despite being an excellent talent. So they are now
(04:54):
kind of a power running team. And for years and
years with Aaron Rodgers, we were always like, they don't
have much of a run game. Oh they got it now,
Josh Jacobs, they got it now. Green Bay at five.
Number four, Buffalo super talented, but they beat themselves Rams.
They had a block punt, nine guys on the field.
They're two and three against winning record teams. Why because
you got to have it buttoned up against winning record
(05:16):
and winning teams. Now they're not allowing sacks anymore. And
the Rams had a good defensive front That's why Josh
Allen's putting up these numbers. I like their roster, I
like their momentum, but I don't trust them in big games.
And the Rams are an inferior team to the Bills.
And the Rams blocked a punt and the Rams didn't
waste a time out at the goal line. So Buffalo's great,
(05:37):
and I do my final four teams I think are
super Bowl teams, but they really concern me in close games.
Number three Philadelphia, So do they, Nick Siriani. Now we've
got AJ Brown and Jalen Hurts don't get along. But
clearly since the bye, the coaching staff has been very intentional.
They become a run team over a pass team. Clearly
Saquon Barkley is leading them. It's got a Christian McCaffrey
(06:01):
niners field like they like the quarterback, don't love him.
So I think it's a very very good team. I
think they have the best roster in the league, slightly
better than Detroit. But I've got my issues in tight
spots with the coach and the quarterback. Number two Kansas
City first team in NFL history to have three plus
kickers with game winning field goals as time expired in
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a single season. Listen, they're ten to zero in games
decided buy seven or less. And you can keep telling
me it's luck. It's not luck, it's their brand, it's
their business model. They're such a complex team because of
the best third down team of the sport, and yet
they're only averaging five yards of play, which is the
worst in the Mahomes era. So they're not as explosive.
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They're not gonna give you the total yards. They're not
gonna blow you away. But they've never been better than
I'm third down. So that's the complexity of this dynasty.
It's got a Patriots feel. You don't feel they have
the best roster, but they have the best coach, the
best quarterback, and like Michael Jordan, when you need a bucket,
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that's the team you want. KC It two number one
Buy an inch Detroit.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Since Week nine to twenty twenty two, they're thirty four
and nine, half of them blowouts. They have the number
one scoring offense and the number one offensive line. They're
the one team I think could make Mahomes sit on
the sidelines and watch a game. I trust Mahomes to
meat everybody in this League. Detroit has the personnel to
say we're gonna play keep away and have a nine
minute drive. So that's the kind of personnel they have.
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And the other thing is about Detroit is aiden Hutchinson
got hurt, hasn't hurt the defense.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Now, I think a lot of that.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Is because they lead and so their defense knows what's coming.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
They're not in a lot of close games, so the
defense can pin their ears back and go for the
pass rush. But I have them as by an inch
as a number one team. And now we go to
Nick Wright. Here we go, Nick Wright, Let's start with
my top ten pick it apart.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
What say you, Well.
Speaker 7 (08:00):
You have two obvious flaws.
Speaker 8 (08:03):
You were on a good run of Herd hierarchy, but
two obvious flaws. One is this, I am willing to
wager any amount of money that if we get your
top two teams in the Super Bowl and you are
staring for two weeks at Reied Mahomes versus Campbell Golf,
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you are picking the Chiefs. There is no chance you
pick the Lions if they play each other in the
Super Bowl, none whatsoever. So in that circumstance, I'd say
the Chiefs should be one and the other question. The
other one is this, why are the Ravens ahead of
the Steelers. I understand the Ravens didn't play this week,
but they had lost two of their previous three. When
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they played each other head to head, they lost, Like,
I don't understand the argument, especially because Russell Wilson's one
of your long loss adopted sons.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
How you would have.
Speaker 8 (08:59):
The Ravens ahead of the Steelers. That surprises me.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I have to say, Well, Pickens was out this week
and it became increasingly clear they are super dependent on
him down the field, so that worries me.
Speaker 8 (09:13):
But but I but they want anyway, teams need their
good players. I agree teams need. The teams there worse
without their good players. That is definitively true. Except I
just think the Steelers are better than Baltimore.
Speaker 7 (09:25):
That's sorry.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
So I'm going to come back to the Chiefs, but
I want to start with Philadelphia. So clearly since the bye,
they have said we want Jalen Hurts throwing less, and
it's working, and now AJ Brown's not happy with it.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
You know, it's just a holiday tradition.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Philadelphia gets in their own way, and Nick Seriani doesn't
do personnel or call plays, and it feels like, just
get the locker room right.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
This worries me. Does it worry you?
Speaker 7 (09:53):
It worries me too.
Speaker 8 (09:55):
And I've come around all the way on the Eagles,
where I a few weeks ago pick them to win
the conference because my preseason picked the Chicago Bears. While
not officially eliminated, I've got to say not looking great
for the Bears, so I had.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
To pivot off that column hot.
Speaker 8 (10:10):
This Eagles story bothers me for two reasons. The first
one is what you said, I don't trust Sirianni to
get his arms around it, and we saw last year
this team was ten to one, it started to get
away from him and it absolutely twistered into as bad
of a collapse as we've ever seen, culminating in a
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team just quitting in a playoff game.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
So that worries me.
Speaker 8 (10:36):
The other part of this that has bothersome is I
think aj Brown is so wildly out of line here,
it's incomprehensible. You are arguably the best player on the team.
Speaker 7 (10:49):
You have been.
Speaker 8 (10:51):
You got paid as a first round pick. The Eagles
didn't trade it for you and paid you top of market.
This offseason. They paid you again, so a brand new contract.
So it's not even like, oh, I'm in a contract year.
Not throwing the ball is gonna hurt my numbers. You
are one of the best players, a veteran, a leader
on a team that has won seven in a row.
Speaker 7 (11:12):
That is eleven and two.
Speaker 8 (11:13):
The only narrative out of the locker room should be huh,
you guys thought our defense couldn't do it?
Speaker 7 (11:20):
How about the improving You wrong?
Speaker 8 (11:22):
And we're so excited that Saquon is gonna break Eric
Dickerson's record.
Speaker 7 (11:27):
That's all you gotta do.
Speaker 8 (11:29):
If privately, quietly, behind the scenes, you want to say
I want more touches, so be it. But for Aj
Brown out of nowhere, to start a fire, and then
Brandon Graham, who's on the team, he's not retired, he
maybe will be soon. He's on the team, to go
on the radio and be like, yeah, it's to shame.
Jalen and Aj used to be friends and they're not anymore.
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Out of nowhere, the Eagles are in disarray again, and
so it's totally self inflicted and I certainly don't trust
Siriani to be able to fix it. Listen, you can
only shave your head once like he already played that card.
Speaker 7 (12:07):
So I don't know what the next move.
Speaker 8 (12:08):
Is, and I just I'm worried about Philadelphia for sure.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
I have tried to be, you know, humble on Sam Darnald.
It's getting increasingly difficult. He looks like the world's greatest player.
So but it's really a dilemma because JJ McCarthy played
for a run first college team, got hurt, second surgery.
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He could be very good. Donald is close to the MVP.
Conversation and momentum in this league is a real thing.
Daniel Jones, isn't it. JJ McCarthy may not be it.
Do you just let Darnald walk? I think you have
to franchise tag him, don't you.
Speaker 8 (12:54):
I think you franchise tag him just to trade him
and make sure sim what the Patriots did with Matt
Castle a lifetime ago to the Chiefs and try to
get a second round pick or something for him. I
think if you're Kevin O'Connell and you won thirteen games
with Kirk Cousins and it looks like you're gonna win
thirteen games or more with Sam Darnald, you have a
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belief your system with this talent can win double digit games.
And there is a reason you moved off Kirk Cousins
to go get JJ McCarthy, and it was because you
thought your team with that talent, a quarterback on a
rookie pay scale and more upside, is the way to go.
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I don't I certainly don't think you can pay Donald
what the market will pay him.
Speaker 7 (13:43):
I think he's gonna get a lot of money.
Speaker 8 (13:45):
I think somebody is gonna have listened to you for
the last decade, watch this film and be like, my god,
this is the player I saw coming out of UFC.
That coward's never been able to quit. But I think
the Vikings should franchise to trade, not franchise to keep.
Speaker 7 (14:02):
I think you got to give JJ.
Speaker 8 (14:04):
McCarthy full ownership of that team next offseason.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
So we had Jamack and I had a severe disagreement.
I said there's a time and a place for everything,
and Belichick attacking the UNC job, and apparently he came
with a binder like four hundred rules. I won't do this,
I won't do that, And I said, Caroline is too
good of a job. It's a top twenty job to
basically be backed into a corner and been told by
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a guy that's never coached college this or I'm out.
I'm like, I'm not interested in that. I get Belichick
doing it, but I don't have to agree with your push.
Jamak think And I said to Jmack, if you had
the choice that he will be a disaster in college
or he'll be Saban, and you had to choose one,
I would choose disaster doesn't work. Can't stand the donors.
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But Jamack and others think, oh, this is Saban reincarnated.
I don't see it, do you well?
Speaker 7 (15:01):
Even if it, I don't think.
Speaker 8 (15:03):
Listen, if I can only pick disaster or maybe the
greatest college coach ever, I'll pick disaster. I think I believe,
and I would assume you probably believe it's more likely
somewhere in the middle. Yes, that he's fine but not overwhelming,
and at seventy two years old, And I do think
it's fair to question a seventy two year old that,
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at least through Instagram and some of his public personal decisions,
might be going through some things. Ye that if he's
the guy I want to turn my college program over to,
when I think he's then turning it over to his
son in two or three years. I have a different
theory about why all of a sudden, Belichick is looking
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at the college game, and I think it's twofold. One
is I think he is very nervous that he is
not going to get if he waits for the NFL jobs,
he's not going to get one. That there's gonna be
seven or eight openings and seven or eight teams are
gonna pass, and if that happens, his coaching career is
kind of over. The Other thing is everyone assumed he's
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at three hundred and thirty three total wins Shula is
at three forty seven, that it's so important to him
to go get that record. I wonder if Bill is
doing the same math I'm doing, which is saying, all right,
even if you go get that record, are you just
holding it for a year for Andy Reid?
Speaker 7 (16:34):
And I know people are like, on Nick, your chief's guy.
Here are the numbers.
Speaker 8 (16:38):
Andy is at two hundred and ninety six. Since Patrick
has been there, they average fifteen wins a year, playoffs
in regular season combined fifteen a year. He's gonna end
this season right around three hundred if he's at two
ninety six right now, he'll be forty seven away from
Shula himself. That means three great years or four mediocre years.
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So how important is that all time coaching record if
you actually only hold it for twelve months before Andy
Reid comes blows past you. Which Andy signed a five year,
one hundred million dollar contract with the Chiefs. Reportedly, if
he coaches those five years, he is going to run
away with this thing.
Speaker 7 (17:22):
So I think all of that is happening here.
Speaker 8 (17:25):
I would imagine North Carolina doesn't have the stomach to
say no to Belichick, but I don't know that.
Speaker 7 (17:31):
I think it's a great fit for anyone involved.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
So you know what I want to and with This
is interesting. So I was thinking to you the other
day when Buffalo was letting Matt stafford. I mean, it
was a seven on seven passing camp and a punt
blocked and nine guys on the field, and I was thinking,
this is exactly in what Nick talks about.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
But here's the thing, and I mentioned this earlier.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Are the Bills the Warriors with Mark Jackson, he starts
a structure, they get to fifty wins, They're very good
in a playoff team. Kerr comes in in terms Steph
from star to superstar and really the flips, the Draymond switch,
Mark Jackson was good, Sean McDermott's good Kerr was great,
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and that McDermott.
Speaker 8 (18:21):
Is that's a really I think that's a really unique
colm and I hadn't thought of it that way. I
also wonder if there's just too many close game clock management. Yeah,
a tough loss fiascos for McDermott. Think about it, Colin.
This has kind of been forgotten. So I thought the
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end of that game was it. And again I believe
in the Bills this year. Before the year picked and
win the AFC East, thought they could be the tour
of the three seed.
Speaker 7 (18:49):
It looks like that's where they're gonna land.
Speaker 8 (18:51):
I thought Josh Allen plus the best offensive and defensive
lines he's ever had. That's eleven wins minimum, and they're
gonna blow past that. However, the end of game stuff
is a concern with this guy and the quarterback sneak
and shout out to Tom Brady. I thought he was
all over it and exactly right. What you cannot use
a time out there, It's the worst thing you can do.
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But then you mentioned the nine guys on the field
on the pump block, and it reminded me of a
game that kind of gotten for kind of got forgotten
to last year's history. Last year, Russell Wilson and the
Broncos are playing the Buffalo Bills. They kick what should
be the game winning field goal down one. Yes, they
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miss it, and the Bills had twelve on the field. Yeah,
so they got another shot at it and made it
so last year and that was for the Bills to
drop to I think six and six. It was right
before they were on that winning streak. You had twelve
on the field. This year, in your last gasp of
a game, you have nine on the field. There's just
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a lot of situational act that it just feels like, man,
you cannot make those types of errors against reading Mahomes
in the playoffs. And if you do lose this, if
they if they play the Chiefs in the playoffs this year,
which they hope to be able to.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
Do, and you lose, that's four out of five.
Speaker 8 (20:22):
Years the same team has sent you home in the playoffs.
Speaker 7 (20:27):
Man, oh man, that's tough the stomach, it is.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Nick Right co hosts First Things First, as always, my
friend a good day, Good holiday season to you and
the fam.
Speaker 7 (20:38):
Absolutely great to see you talk to tomorrow night. Thanks Colling,
You bet all right?
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Good stuff. Yeah, the I think.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
So let's say Belichick's not saban or a disaster.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
I love how you framed that. By the way, Let's
go to the polar opposite ends of this.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Okay, but here's what I think is real. Belichick does
it for a year and they're fine. But by the
second year, he is over the collective, he's over the donors,
he's over the NCAA, he doesn't have any loyalty. He's
not I mean, I guess there's some parental history at Carolina,
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but I think college coaching is harder than it's ever been,
not easier.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
So some of these people online are now following Belichick's
girlfriend on Instagram, and they have noticed she has started
following a bunch of North Carolina accounts the University of
North Carolina, North Carolina Football football nutrition, So people are
connecting the dots. Colin, it seems like it's gonna happen.
I just don't see why you would be against North Carolina.
Would you say they are a top twenty football football
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program in the country.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yeah, top twenty yeah, facilities stay about that time.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
Twenty yeah. I don't know if they know they'd be
top twenty five. I mean Washington Huskies have a better
football program than in North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Target, Yeah, Washington's probably. I think Washington probably thirteenth.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
For you would probably put almost every SEC school, almost
every Big ten school.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I wouldn't I get to live in a beautiful area
with legendary university in one of the one of the
nicest areas in the country to live. It's got legendary.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Program, ol Mister North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I would take the North Carolina job in one second.
What do you want to play LSU, Alabama, Georgia? Do
you want to play them every year?
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Texas?
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Would we rather go to Carolina and get a bunch
of layups and go eleven and one and then get
into the playoff?
Speaker 5 (22:31):
Every easy way out you coastal elite.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
No, it's not the hard droop a life in the
last ten years. Look at how many SEC coaches have
been fired, is it is it.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
Eighty sixteen seventy something with a bunch of rings from
the from the NFL, the varsity.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
I would take Carolina overall.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
Miss I think you're in a minority five University of Florida.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Well, no, that's the state University at Florida. I would
take you.
Speaker 7 (22:57):
I mean, I'll tell you.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
I'll tell you my wife. I could get her to
go to Chapel Hill.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
Well wait, now you can bring it in a different you're.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Talking about everything.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I think it's an easier place to sell Florida State's
gone crazy.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
A better football job.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
FSU or unmocab FSU, Big Ten. At least ten schools
in the Big ten are better, far better name them.
I mean you want to start Michigan, Ohio State right
out of the state. State for Oregon, absolutely, usc Washington,
U Claw, No.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
No, not Ucla. I'll take Carolina, not Ucla. They're collective pushback.
Couldn't buy this cup of coffee.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Indiana Hoosiers, Oh you got I'll take Carolina, Illinois, Carolina, Minnesota,
go Carolina.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
No, no, they come on, they got a great coach.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
No, you can't have so many schools. I forget Northwestern,
Come on, Chicago. You love Northwestern.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
It's an academic power. They have thirty two students. It's
a tiny school.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
They've got a great new facility.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
Don't they have one?
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Of the Carolina is a good job. It's a good job.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
Top twenty.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Yeah, it maybe eighteenth, but it's a good job.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Is it top five in the ACC?
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Come on, you can't name six.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
Clemson for sure. Clemson's the bad FSU for sure.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
Yes, it's two. And then after that, I'll take Carolina.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Where are you on?
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Like virgin Uva.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
From Virginia, Virginia Tech. What year were we talking about?
Speaker 2 (24:30):
What year?
Speaker 3 (24:30):
What year is that?
Speaker 7 (24:31):
Virginia?
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Virginia great law school. They're basketball coaches,
Like I'm out of here, and they have a better
basketball than football program.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
I got to read some spots.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
You just really love this Belichick topic.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
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Speaker 1 (24:54):
So I've been saying this. I said going into this season,
I had the Cowboys missing the playoffs. I had Philadelphia
winning the division, Washington finishing second. And that's how it looks.
So this division NFC East, I've got in order so far.
I had Philly, Washington, Dallas, and the New York Giants.
So I got that one right, it appears, and they
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have very limited cap space going forward, even if they
restructure Dak's deal, which they will. But you can kick
that down that road as long as you want. You
can kick that can down the road. You're paying a
B plus quarterback A plus money you got paid the
piper eventually. And the second thing is Dak's on his
second lower body injury and after the first one he
got less mobile, so he and Cooper rush DA's better
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not that much. I mean, there's limitations on Dak now.
So I predicted all off season this year would be
the beginning of a half a decade slide into mediocrity
and irrelevance. And I mean this has become the Lakers
systemic family issues. You've got like one star player and
then one a jing star player, and then a roster
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full of average guys and that's the Lakers ad and
old Lebron and just guys. And I mean the Cowboys
have been run. I think on this premise they're too
big to fail. Go ask Chrysler, who now only makes minivans.
And by the way, ironically, Chrysler's logo, like the Cowboys,
used to be a single star. So That's what Dallas
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is becoming to me, very very average, systemic family issues.
Too many Jones in the kitchen, need outside influence. You
got a couple of elite players, neither one Micah or
Ceedee Lamb appear very happy. Here's Micah after last night's loss.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
I'm really sold this one. This one hurt me more
than any loss this year, probably even worse than a
playoff loss, to be honest, because.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Where we were going, how we were playing.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Between the players, I mean, so many situations. It's just
I want to say snowballing, but I don't know. It
seems like we're paying a due. That's not fair. We
can't let these type of games slip away like we
did today.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Well, it's better than early in the season when they
were just getting blown out at home. So they're closing
the gap on mediocrity. Jmak with the news.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Turn on the news. This is the herd Line News.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
All right, we'll going back to Philly and the Steelers.
There's drama in Philadelphia. Colin Yea ahead of the big
game with Brandon Graham, Aaron dirty laundry on the Jalen
Hurts AJ Brown fractured relationship. This comes following the Eagles
players letting their frustrations with the pass game be unknown.
Despite the turmoil, Nick Sirianni sees the frustration as a positive.
Speaker 9 (27:46):
Of course, I like the fact that guys when we
don't reach our standard of how we want to play
and show everybody how we play each week, that they're
disappointed in that. But you also have to remind them
in those moments it's hard to win, and that you
have to enjoy enjoy those moments because I know this,
Elliott that when you when you lose, that that will
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sit with you and then you'll be really and you
get and you're sick about that, and so you have
to balance that out from when you win to enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yeah, AJ Brown's not but his premise is right. This
is something Dan Campbell talks about a lot. It is
hard to win. They're not all pretty. Kansas City's had
a two year stretch where almost none of their wins
are pretty outside of the Zuper Bowls.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
You just got to enjoy winning in this league. It's hard.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
You had to reference Kansas City Hunt well, they.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Win all the time.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
So I don't know what what do you do if
you're sirian do you say anything or let this play
out like this is not again. I know that we
think Sirianni's safe and everything, Colin, I'm just telling you,
if this continues to bubble up, there's another cratering here
in the end of December and they go out in
the first round of the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
Well, let me ask you, are you sure Sirianni's back.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
His record right now?
Speaker 5 (28:59):
I don't care what his record is.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Forty five and nineteen. It's the fifth highest winning percentage
by any coach in league history.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
Wonderful.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
Hey, you know what, Bill Belichick took Matt Jones to
the playoffs? Okay, mac Jones barely is a backup in
this league now, Like, if you want, you want to
bring up other stuff from the past, go sure, go
for it with Nick Sirianni's record.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
What have you done for me lately? Currently? It's a
nine game win tre Yeah, nine, that's what he's done.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
Like and a fractured locker room, Well, he's got good.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
It's not a fractured locker room. It is one receiver
who wants the ball more.
Speaker 6 (29:32):
And you got Brandon grim airing dirty laundry bat either
they got locker room problems.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
It's not perfect.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Yeah, interesting, you're coming around on that.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
Hey, speaking of not perfect, let's go to the Chicago Bears. Boy,
they're drama filled. They fired Ibra Flus and then got
their doors blown off by the Niners.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Well here is the latest.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
Apparently, GM Ryan Poles is unhappy with the team's power structure.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
Take a listen.
Speaker 10 (30:01):
When Kevin Warren was hired, he was frustrated with that
from the start, that he never loved it. It was
not a personal thing with Kevin, but it was something
that he didn't like that he went from reporting to
the owner to now having to report to a team
president who reports to the owner. There was a go between,
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and he was very.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Vocal about that.
Speaker 10 (30:25):
The people he trusted inside the building that maybe he
never would have taken the job to begin with.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
That is a intrigition.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
I'll tell you that Kevin Warren is there are growing
concerns here.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
I think that's the guy you gotta run on.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Well, I don't know that yet, I just I just know.
Speaker 6 (30:43):
I asked people, but well, Jim Harbaugh had beef with
this guy. Okay, Now Ryan Poles has beef.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
And I like Royan Poles. Let me just state this,
take the Chase Claypool move out. You know, unlike again
the internet, nobody is perfect drafting. It's hard. But Poles
has hit a lot of home runs. I love the
Montez sweat deal. He got crapped on for that in Chicago.
I love that move. The first day minute that made it.
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I said, that is a great move.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Home run.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Jalen Johnson, the DJ Moore move, Keenan Allen Is I
think I think he's drafted. He's drafted pretty well.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
Okay, Darnell Wright has done serviceable the kids.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
With Johnson, Okay, they've had some ok picks.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
Well, it's more than just drafting its acquisitions, right.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
The DJ Moore move was we like that?
Speaker 3 (31:32):
I did that?
Speaker 6 (31:33):
Well?
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Yeah Dj Moore, Yeah that was a great move.
Speaker 7 (31:37):
It was a good pick.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Dunzay and Caleb that he gets that.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
So he's done a good job.
Speaker 6 (31:41):
I just I want to know what what this guy wore.
I need to know more about his role, like besides
reporting to me.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I think there we're just hearing a lot of Harball
Ryan Poles issues with Lauren.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
That's what we're hearing.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
And I have enough sources in Chicago that I call,
and it's it's there is a there's a power dynamic
that people are questioning.
Speaker 6 (32:01):
Yeah, and you know it's a relationship business, Colin, you
have to have the GM and coach on the same page,
like if they're not Harbaugh.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Harbaugh reportedly wanted the job and would have been the
perfect fit.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
That's all I need to hear.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
I know for a lot of people, that's that's what
Harbaugh and polls his level. Obviously they're different. But just
like if you.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
Don't want to work with Harbaugh, a proven winner, I
think he's not hearing.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
Joam's not for everybody, but I agree.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
No, No, I like winners. Do you like winners?
Speaker 3 (32:26):
I like winners. I like Harball's.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (32:29):
Final story is the Detroit Lions the first eleven game
win streak in franchise history thanks to Jared Goff playing
amazing the offensive line. Everybody's good, but listen, Goff is
an elite company.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
Are you ready for this?
Speaker 6 (32:42):
If Detroit can not win number thirteen, he would be
the third quarterback to have thirteen win seasons with different teams.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
The other two names on that list, do you want
to guess them?
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Joe Montana.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
Nope, Tom Brady, Tom Brady won Let me think, Let me.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Think that guy's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Also, Carson Palmer or something.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
He's better than this, guy's way better than that. Peyton, Manning,
Denver and Indian.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
So Jared Goff winning thirteen games with the Rams and
Lions is in the same universe as Brady and Peyton.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
When do we start talking Hall of Fame for Jared Goff?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I don't know. Oh.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
I think if he puts up two or three more
seasons like this, absolutely, if he gets to a second
Super Bowl winner lose, you gotta get there's votes.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
See. The problem is he doesn't have an MVP. He's
never been considered the best quarterback in the league. He's
been very good, elevated by McVeigh.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
But if he gets to a second Super Bowl, that's
pretty damn good.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
He's really really good. He's really good player.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
I mean, Philip Rivers is going to get votes in discussion,
and I think Goff's better than Philip Rivers.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Makes fewer mistakes.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
Oh, that's a good one. Look at golf's numbers. Is
your seventy two percent completions? That's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Yeah, it's he's one of those guys that's all steak
and no sizzle.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Like he has no sizzle.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
And so he's the opposite of he has Kyler Murray,
who's a ton of sizzle.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
But we questioned the state he has some sizzle.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
He married a s I swimsuit model, and well, what
that's a lot of sizzle. What are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (34:12):
That's not the kind of sizzle.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
What do you what's your sizzle?
Speaker 1 (34:15):
You know, dynamic, big arm, move around, Sam Darnold, Josh Allen,
Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
You watch the game and you're like.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
That, Wow, his thing is beautiful, beautiful distributor of the
football with time to throw. I always said I thought
he was a better Matt Ryan, and Matt Ryan was excellent.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Matt Ryan want an MVP.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Matt Ryan's really good.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Oh that's a good comparison.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
Career. Wow, But I think he I think he's got
a little stronger arm than Matt Ryan.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
And I thought Matt was excellent.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
So Bill's that Lions, that's it.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
I like Buffalo that. I like Buffalo really listen. Extra
time to prepare for.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
The Lions samon straight road game for the Bills.
Speaker 6 (34:56):
They go from Orchard Park to La. I gotta check
it thing all the way back and then back to Detroit.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
It's jet travel.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
The young travel coastal elites in private.
Speaker 6 (35:05):
Yeah, they don't plan Beijing.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
They'll be fine.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Oh they flew all the way to La on a
rag jet with sandwiches and soup and fresh coffee.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
They're fun.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
It's late in the season, my friend. These guys are
worn down, they're tired. Everybody's banged up. It ain't easy
out there being a football player. I don't care if
you're flying awesome jets.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
It's tough.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Hey, all I know is Row twenty eight on Southwest Airlines.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
I I sleep like a baby.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
You've never sat behind Row eight? Come on, get out
of here?
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Will come on? Maybe Pro seven, But I I like it.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
You know what, Jared?
Speaker 6 (35:38):
You know what Jared Goff doesn't get what's your favorite comedian?
Speaker 5 (35:42):
Always talks about what respect? Set it up?
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Baby?
Speaker 3 (35:49):
All right? J Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
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Speaker 1 (36:31):
So uh, the big story is Yesterday Belichick met with
a chancellor of North Carolina, brought in a four hundred
page binder and said, here are the rules. I'll take
the job. I wouldn't want to be back into a corner.
I understand he's Belichick. The ACC is a bad conference.
He can make them relevant, but he's not a long
term solution. The other part of this dynamic I don't
(36:51):
like it all is he's basically gonna take the job
if you'll hire his son, not interested whatsoever. That feels
like the late Bobby Knight. If you'll hire Pat Knight,
I'll do. I'm not interested in that. I don't think
departing head coaches should get any say in who the
next coach is. I think North Carolina is a very
good job. I think it's an underrated job. I don't
(37:13):
think it's Clemson. I don't think it's Florida. I don't
think it's Oklahoma. But I think it's it's somewhere after Washington.
It's in the like seventeen eighteen. It may just be
a spot below like Auburn, who's you know, was kind
of a dysfunctional mass or Washington that's got a natty,
but it's a good program, well capitalized. Nick Wright earlier
(37:35):
on Belichick working in college at Carolina.
Speaker 8 (37:39):
At seventy two years old, And I do think it's
fair to question a seventy two year old that, at
least through Instagram and some of his public personal decisions,
might be going through some things that if he's the
guy I want to turn my college program over to,
when I think he's turning it over to his son
(38:02):
in two or three years. I have a different theory
about why all of a sudden Belichick is looking at
the college game and I think it's twofold. One is
I think he is very nervous that he is not
going to get if he waits for the NFL jobs,
he's not going to get one. Yeah, that there is
going to be seven or eight openings and seven or
(38:24):
eight teams are going to pass, and if that happens,
his coaching career is kind of over.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
And this is very interesting. I've seen this before. It's
very Bobby Knight. Is that Bobby Knight. He didn't want
to do one and done. The culture's bigger than you.
And you know, Bill's like I want to say, in personnel,
nobody's interested. He's not good at that. So I think
money corrupts power influences. I think Belichick is very proud guy.
(38:54):
He's a brilliant football guy. And it's like my way
the highway. And the truth is college football coaching is now,
Jay Wright, I'm out, Saban, no thanks, like really good coaches,
Bob Stoops could come back anytime he wanted to.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
No thank you.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
So I think the recruiting is a pain in the bot.
I think it's a young man's game. But this is
I mean, Mike Skrzyzewski didn't want to do the one
and done, and then he figured out after about three years,
I'm getting beat by the one and done guys, so
he pivoted. That's why Mike Skrzyzewski is a better all
time coach than Bobby Knight. Bobby didn't evolve. He just
couldn't evolve. He was into his ego and his vanity,
(39:33):
in his power and his influence. He couldn't get, as
they say, over himself. I think Belichick needs he can
get an NFL job. But if Bill's gonna say I
want personnel, feel you're bad at it. You're not Jimmy
Johnson at it. You're not Pete Carroll at it. You're
not Sean Payton at it. It's not what you do.
You're a You're the best defensive coach ever. You're one
of the smartest coaches. You're a culture and a tone setter.
(39:55):
You're a very, very bright guy. I'm a huge Belichick fan.
But everybody's got a hole in the world. Every company's
got a hole. Why Because companies are just human beings
and we're all flawed and vulnerable, and we make mistakes.
The biggest, strongest companies. It could be Meta, it could
be Google. They've got holes. Every company's got holes. Every
coach has holes, and it's personnel for him. So I
(40:16):
think the NFL teams are like, you're not touching personnel.
That's why I always thought Philadelphia was a great job
for him, because Howie Roseman as good a GM as
there is, and Bill would get no say in personnel.
And I think Philadelphia is the place to go. But
he's not. Bill will not be allowed to usurp Howie
Roseman his power or influence, nor should he. How he's
(40:37):
great at that, how he didn't try to coach, You're
not going to touch his personnel. So that's just the
reality of it in college.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Good luck.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
I just I don't really mind sacrificing some things to
get Bill in Carolina, but I have to hire your coach,
your son. What if Bill after a year says I
don't like this, You got to hire my son. Is
there something that protects North Carolina? Like how long will
Bill coach? And what after the first recruiting class, Bill
(41:07):
privately like I got no interest coaching. My son gets
it for ten years now, Like that
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