May 13, 2025 • 40 mins
Covino & Rich slide head first into the Pete Rose/Shoeless Joe Jackson news! The guys have a great discussion about the timing of it all! Plus, some Ray Liotta love, 'SHAQ DIESEL TRIVIA' & tonight's NBA action!
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Speaker 3 (01:01):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Now we're gonna get to Pete Rose and shootless Joe
Jackson in a second. But you know we've been talking
about DraftKings, the pick six. I gotta tell you I
started doing it myself the last couple of nights because
it's allowed here in California. On Baseball Dude, we talked
about the NBA over unders. I've been doing over under
(01:22):
strikeouts and home runs and it's so fun, honestly, for instance,
like like Aaron Judge home run. You know, yesterday I
missed out because I had Verdlander under four and a
half strikeouts.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
But you could take like three things and it keeps
you so locked into just Danly baseball. And again, this.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Is not an fIF this is not an official commercial.
This is me just telling you I'm having a lot
of fun with it, the pick six thing, but you
don't have to do six because the odds are tough.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
With do you got tonight? You pick anything tonight? I'm
gonna go over in a little bit, all right, I
want to look.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
But uh yeah, we do the codes and the commercials
rightfully so, but I'm telling you personally, I'm really having
fun with that. I was talking to some of my
softball buddies about, like, dude, we do it. I'm like,
you better use our stupid.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Code, buddy, cliight, Hey, Pete Rose.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
The big story today, Shoeless Joe Jackson the big story today.
Can I tell you, for a split second, a split second, you.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Thought it was Joe Jackson, the singer. No, I thought
it was Michael Jackson's dead Joe Jackson. No.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
For a split second, I saw a picture of Pete
Rose and his captain kangaroo haircut, wearing his red sat
and he says, reinstated, And.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I was like, yeah, he died.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
That's right, Like I forgot for a split second, he
thought it said Pete Rose resurrected.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
No red.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I'm like, oh, man, look finally, oh oh, but yeah,
he's dead. Breaking news today. You heard the inmyer. MLB
Commissioner Rob Manford removed Pete Roses and shoeless Joe Jackson
and other deceased players from the league's permanently ineligible list
on Tuesday. Reinstated, remove from MLB's permanent ineligible list. And
(03:04):
I'm like, Okay, shoeless Joe Jackson, legend. We know the story,
We've seen, feel the dreams, we know shoeless Joe Jackson. Yeah,
Pete Rose, Okay, we all know his story. A little
too little, too late here, but okay, all right, it
makes sense. And then my other question along with Jay
Stue too, because I saw Jay Stu in the hallway.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Who Yeah, He's like, he's like Jay who j Stu producer.
He's like, my question would be, well why, and I'm like,
and give you that well eyebrow raised? Is that big Jay?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
He's like why and I'm like, yeah, I know why
now it's that big Stu. He actually said, my first
question is why on a random Tuesday, May thirteenth, because
of what's happening tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
And then yeah, we.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Did the Detective List oh today tomorrow actually Pete Rose Day.
So it does kind of add up and make sense.
I don't know if that's why it ends up, no,
but it does make it make more sense, right, like
why now? And then then I started thinking too when
I hear Dan Meyer saying and other seventeen other people
on the list, and I'm like, can I mean anyone
else on the list? And then it makes sense. Do
(04:17):
you remember the movie eight Men out?
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yep? Those are eight of them.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, eight of them are from the Black Sox Scandal,
So most of the ore black Socks that played with
shoeless Joe Jackson, the guys with the shoes, so Jackson
most of them and are affiliated with that scandal from
back then.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
So Iowa Sam brought up something about ray Liota, and
I was laughing because it's exactly what I picture in
my mind.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Do you You're looking at like MLB Network right now
and you see a picture of Pete Rose and then
a real picture of Joe Jackson.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
You're like, why isn't really is that?
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Why is that not really Ray Liota's face? You're like, oh, wait, oh,
you think of Joe Jackson.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
You're like, can I give you about Rayleiota fun fact?
Please do.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
He's my hometown of Union, New Jersey, and he's in
our Union, New Jersey High School Hall of Fame. And
I was there sitting in the audience when he was inducted.
Goodfellas came out in nineteen ninety. I graduated ninety four,
so he got inducted around ninety one, ninety two or
something like that, fresh off of the movie Fame, and
(05:20):
it was an experience. I'll leave it at that. And
we later had him on the show years later. But
you in the Hall of Fame and then you remember
him most aside from Goodfellas and Shoeless Joe Jackson in
the Field of Dreams. You know him best, probably from
Chanticks can't dick Chanty. Are you in the Hall of Fame,
by the way, am I?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
No?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I'm the Hall of Nothing? How are you not in
the Union Hall of Fame?
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Because just Raeleiota I did going up against Raiota.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Robert wool and uh Aarti Lang already lang. They're all
from my hometown.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
No one else, no room for Stevens could be a
former Yankee, Joe Joe Collins.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Joe Collins, you should be on the melt Rush call.
You can get in there. You should get in. Yeah, man,
I think so.
Speaker 6 (05:57):
Of those seventeen players that were on the list, all
of them in one way or another except two were
tied to gambling of some sort.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yeah, I know. I had to look it up.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, because I'm like, all right, well, that there's eight covered, right,
eight men out that famous movie from the was it
late eighties with John Cusack. I remember going to see
it too, the Black Seck Scandal. Looked to see if
I knew or recognized any other names, and you really don't.
But they all all are gambling related, which is so
ironic and almost.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Hypocritical in today's world.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Look how Rich just started off the segment how much
fun he's having gambling on baseball? Yeah, and we're still
like holding this against these guys, and I get it.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
They broke rules that applied. Then oh one of the
other reasons.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say, don't hold it against
Benny Koff Kavino. It was just because he was acquitted
on an auto theft charge but was still subsequently banned.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Right, auto theft.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
And then we all know shuffling Phil Douglas, right, the
old New York Giants player. He was banned after threatening
his manager, So that's why he was on the ineligible shocking.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I'm gonna go to chat GPT right now and see
if chat GPT could give Rich an old school baseball nickname.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Please do has been obsessed with this. It's going to
take four gallons of water to spit that out. I
got it.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
It, don't scarecrow Rich Davis. That would be kind of mine.
Maybe it's more Wizard of Oz than anything. Can we
give radio host Rich Davis an old school baseball nickname?
Come double Talk Davis. Perfect for a radio host known
(07:44):
for chatting up a storm. Double Talk Davis, Rich the
Mouse rich the.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Mouthpiece, Davis reflects his role as a vocal personality. Yeah, hey,
there he is quick draw Davis with the double quick
suggests double talking to Day's double play.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Nice and fast talking.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Oh there he is slick Davis would play at second base,
a nod to a smooth talker with charm. Oh this one,
there he is, step into the play. Chattabox Davis.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I think that's the winner. Chatterbox, Chatterbox Davis an era appropriate.
Oh yeahs bat in two thirteen. Chatta Box Davis.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
So shoeless Joe Pete Rose.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Now, I'm not saying this because I don't want to
get on the bed side of Rob Manford. I don't
want any baseball hookups ever taken away from me. But
I'm reading a lot of sentiment online like Adam hit
us up on x and said, Yo, guys, I'm big
baseball fans like you. I love MLB, but Rob Manford
is a damn coward. Removing Rose and Shoeless Joe from
the band list because they quote are no longer with
(08:47):
us and cannot represent a threat to the integrity. No
threat to the integrity of the game. As the quote goes,
and as you heard from Dan Byer, it does feel
lame and like, yeah, was this really announcement worthy? We
all know that it's like death also eliminates people from
(09:07):
life and imprisonment. His lifetime ban was lifted from Baseball. Yeah,
they're dead. And not to sound morbid, I joked before
and I said, hey, old Barry Bond should fake his
death just to know.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Guys like Barry.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Bonds and Roger Clemens the Rocket those guys know now
in the back of their head. It sounds terrible, but
they're like, I guess when I'm dead one day, nothing family,
my family will get to see this.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
No, that is not correct, because they are eligible. No
one's voting for that's right. This is the stipulation with
Rose is that it's also not a guarantee that this
Classic Committee Baseball era committee votes Pete Rose and shoeless
Joe Jackson, and they still need to be voted in
(09:53):
by the Baseball Hall of Fame, which no separate entity
is we correct, And in nineteen eighty nine, when Rose
was in his lifetime ban, there was no ban for
the Hall of Fame at that time. It only came
in nineteen ninety one when Rose was first eligible that
the Hall of Fame said, well, anybody that's on the
permanently ineligible list cannot be enshrined into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Shoeless.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
Joe Jackson actually was up for enshrinement in the nineteen
thirties and nineteen forties despite being banned. The ban for
the Hall of Fame didn't come in until nineteen ninety one,
until after Pete Rose had agreed to his lifetime ban
with Bargie Amadi but Bonds. All of the Clemens Rafael
palmerra A Rod all have been on the ballot. Remember
we say they get thirty eight percent of the vote,
(10:37):
they get forty percent of the vote.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
So they're all they're all clean. They're all clean for
to be enshrined.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Caught in me chattabox Davis got a double take for
double talk. There he is double talk Davis. Yeah, he's
of for two today Chatta box Davis so funny. So
to me, it's almost like, yeah, what would he do.
It's almost like you're you're you're making the statement for
(11:05):
some sort of like you know what, Rob Manford, you
did the right thing, you did nothing. They died, I
mean you're dead does anything really matter? Like what you mentioned,
I'm not in the Union High School Hall of Fame. Yea,
is it gonna mean Deadley squat to me?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
If I'm dead? Who cares? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:22):
This is like when Kenny Stabler was put into the
Hall of Fame right after he died. I was like,
it sucks the life out of the joy out of it.
I mean, it's you're not giving anyone an honor. You're
just saying they're dead. So it doesn't matter. You're not
giving them anything. They died, there's no more bandlifted. They're
obviously not a threat, you know why, because they're dead.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
It's dumb, the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Just what about the family and the organization like the Reds.
I was gonna say that about the statement about how
happy they are as.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
An organ you know what, it made them much more
happy to see their grandfather and their father and their
family member honored when he was alive and when it mattered.
So yeah, it might help the family legacy a little bit,
but it didn't help anything for Pete Rose. And again
it's again, it's baseball, dude. It's not like he murdered anybody.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
This guy, this guy here is dead cross him off,
then off. I look at it this way.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Kavino and I have made it a point over the years,
and we try to do this, honor people while they're here.
Nothing bothers me more than when some actor, musician, a
great athlete, someone dies and then everyone decides to, as
the kids say, give them their flowers.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Give them their flowers while they're alive, they swear to God.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
We make a deliberate attempt to try to do that
every once in a while, whether it be here on
Fox Sports Radio or a Patreon show, you'll just have
a random thought, you'll appreciate somebody, and like, you know,
I'm gonna write this down because this dude deserves some
props or some credit. He's been doing it for too long.
He's too great at what he does. No one's gonna
talk about it until he's dead. Let's talk about him now.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
So that's why I feel bad about this whole Pete
Rose thing. We said it over and over again that
he'll be acknowledged once he dies, and it's exactly what happened.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Is Donald Trump gonna try try to take CREDI fittscress. Ever,
then he say, like early on, like we're gonna get
him in.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Oh my god, that's a whole other conversation in itself.
And again, it doesn't matter. It doesn't mean he's going
to be in the in the Hall of Fame, guys.
It just means that he's eligible now and that he's
no longer banned because he's no longer a threat to
the MLB.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
It also, as you brought up the point about the families, Yeah,
and I know Danny brought up Kenny Stabler, but Kesey
Stabler didn't do anything wrong like they should have. They
should have enshrined him. Pete Rose did something wrong. And
what Major League Baseball is saying is we know that
he did something wrong, and if Pete Rose were allied
today and we put this into effect, he would not
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be eligible. He still would be on the permanently ineligible
list because he's still alive. The ruling, as Manfred calls it,
policy says, if you are dead, well, then you're done.
You are no longer a threat to the game. You're
no longer you know, could possibly bring any stain to
the game. So that's over with. So with that, the
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end of your life means the end of your sentence.
Which may give solace to the family or the Reds fans,
but doesn't necessarily put Pete Rose or shoeless Joe Jackson
off the hook because they aren't here to sell to be.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
So it's only eligible because he's lifeless Joe Jackson. Yes,
that is correct.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
And by the way, yes, think out how long the
Joe Jackson family had to wait to get this news.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
How long has that guy been dead for? Right? It's ridiculous,
like probably like the FDR. It's a weird announcement. You know,
that's my Joe Jackson. How long he's been dead?
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Yeah, Jason Sewart said he had been dead for seventy
one years.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
He died December fifth, nineteen fifty one. Seventy one years.
That's been dead.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
That's what, seventy three years, seventy four years, whatever it is.
He was no threat seventy one years ago. But now
we announce it. I guess better late than never.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
You can't have a death sentence, I mean you can.
You're gonna have a life sentence then when you die?
Speaker 7 (15:09):
Was it?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Eight eight men out for for a lifetime and seventy
one years now? Listen again, no, you know, with no
disrespect to you know, victims and major crimes. Right, yeah,
But you ever see someone in court and they hand
down some piece of trash, some real piece of s
like back to back to back, all these life.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Sentences, and you're like, one's enough.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
What Like, I get it, because you want to make
sure that the people that were affected have their their justice,
their feeling. But like there are times that it's like
thirty years to life for this count, this counts thirty
years and a guy serving like five back to back
consecutive life this guy to live to three hundreds, not
gonna live five lives.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
It's it's symbolic. It's the message, know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Symbolic, But I think there's something while meaningful to those times.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
They always say banned for what? Banned for life? Right?
That would that's what you would think.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
So it's implied, isn't it implied that when they die
the ban is lifted. Oh but not for Joe Jackson
and the other eight guys, it was for life plus
seventy one.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
Manfred said that ban for life was never a part
of this permanently an eligible list.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Now what he and that's what he said.
Speaker 6 (16:20):
They called it policy that now they could be taken
off the list and allow this to be put in
the hands of the Baseball Hall of Fame. I brought
this up earlier. I'm going to try it again in
it because it didn't sound right. So maybe I'm I'm
gonna be double talk Davis here. But earlier today on
the network on Doug Show, the Menendez trial is front
and center here in southern California, and I don't know
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if it's that way across the country, but there is.
I think that there are parallels. They may not be
exact to what's going on, but again there was a
questioning about the sentencing and how that went out. It
was the same thing with Pete Rose, where he thought
that he would be able to renegotiate his entrance into
Major League Baseball after a year, but decided to accept
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this agreement to say that he didn't bet on baseball
to stop litigation against the league. Then Barciamadi dies, fae
Vincent becomes commissioner and says, well, this is the agreement
you signed. It you said that you are permanently ineligible
from Major League Baseball and it was never moved from that,
and commissioners after the fact did not want to change
(17:23):
a commissioner's previous ruling. Manfred even mentioned that in the
statement it's I mean, I don't know if it's like
game a Covino's favorite game of Jenga. But there's just
a lot of pieces like in and out here and
moving around, and somehow or another, Manfred's figured out a
way to craft this in a way that I don't know,
to me kind of makes sense.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
But I may be trying to take glory on just
a weird announcement.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
See yeah, I think that that could you know, that
could be part of it. And a lot of people
like you, I think, just don't are you know, see
right through it.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
It's like a made up valor. It's like, hey, guys,
look what I'm doing. And I'm like, okay, but he died.
And by the way, speaking of the Menenda's brothers, I
do love the infamous Mendez brother Mark Jackson basketball card.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Have you ever seen that? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
NBA Hoops NBA Hoops nineteen ninety is Mark Jackson throwing
a pass, but the Menandaz brothers are sitting right there
court Sidne I.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Have this card in my collection. I have it. Yeah, Yeah,
that's a classic it's a weird one. All right.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Let's get to the phone calls on this because it
is a big, big breaking story today Pete rose off
the ineligible list along with the other Black Sox guys
and other gambling stories.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
And who do we got rich? Let's ahead of Brooklyn
and Bruno? What's up Bruno seeing our boys?
Speaker 8 (18:42):
I love you guys, Hey, I this is near and
dear to my heart. I honestly believe this is such
a really bad thing Pete. You know, to put him
in or they're considering putting him in after the fact,
keep him out, you know what I mean? They shouldn't.
They shouldn't put him in posthumously. It really isn't right.
The other players, the Black Sows guys, I can understand that,
(19:03):
but just think about the environment we live in today
with legalized gambling. I mean, don't all these players that
are still right now, I mean NFL and VA. These
guys gamble on their phones every day. Now that being said,
it is it's just it's window dressing. It's terrible now
because you don't want to just leave. I'd rather see
him be left out. It's Susan Louci.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Don't get worse sympathy thing. It's almost better. It's almost
it's almost better off leaving them out. I agree, you
know what, it's like a great call, you know, agreed,
great call that is, but you could feel and see
right through the the tom foolery that is just disingenuous.
It feels odd like and forced, especially the current. Like
(19:42):
I said, we started the segment me talking about how
I'm loving doing the uh DraftKings pick six and you know,
gambling and sports wagering is a part of life now.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
It's almost like that port and guess what Rose was
around while the explosion happened.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
And let me tell you it's also it's like that
sad story of like a that's sitting in jail because
he had a joint on him and he got arrested
for weed. Meanwhile, like everywhere you go, there's you know, shop,
we'd legal shops everywhere.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
So Bruno's saying, it's sending a bad message at this time, right.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yeah, it's it's weird.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
It's a mixed message, uh, Kurt. Actually, let's go to
Mitchell first. He's been on a whole for a while.
Thanks Mitchell eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox for
some buddy.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
What's up?
Speaker 9 (20:21):
Hey, what's up?
Speaker 10 (20:21):
Guys?
Speaker 9 (20:22):
Yeah, I just wanted to say, you know, blank, major
League Baseball and they can shove the lift up their
football pass because to me, I mean, you know, he
hadn't know that man didn't have much life left. They
could have took that up a year or so. They're
not doing it now for his career or anything else.
They're doing it to make themselves feel better.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
So yeah, yeah, I mean I feel that the announcement
on this random Tuesday, a day before Pete Rose Day,
does make you feel that way.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
It does.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Pete Rose legend, shoeless, Joe Jackson legends. Will they be
in the Hall of Fame in two years when the
committee votes?
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Probably Kurt and Penn. What's up Kurt going on?
Speaker 7 (21:05):
Guys, I'll love her show.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Thank you man, Thank you man.
Speaker 10 (21:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (21:09):
No, so I'm probably you're not gonna like me. I'm
I was so happy when I heard the news today
about all of this. To be honest, I understand Pete
Rose is t Rose and as a person and everything else,
but the fact that he owns the record and there's
(21:31):
I hate what like the steroid guys, but he just
was Charlie Hustle.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Hey, dude, we're not We're not saying we're mad at
at this, We're mad at how it was handled.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yeah. Yeah, no, we all loved it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I just think it should have I think it should
have happened while he was alive. I hope you're not
missunderstanding credit.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I like p Rose.
Speaker 7 (21:47):
I think you should wish it would have happened. I
feel like people should be alive when they go into
Hall of Fame. Like I'm like more stoked about to
shoot a Joe Jackson thing.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yeah he's he's smiling down somewhere seventy one years later, Chantix.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
So if if Pete Rose is put on this ballot
that's going to be voted on by the Classic Baseball
Era Committee in December of twenty twenty seven, this would
be the class. Just some of the names that he
would go in, because remember there's always headliners, right, It
would be Albert Poolholes, Robinson, Cano, Yadier Molina, Steven Strasburg,
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David Price, Lorenzo Caine, some of the names.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
That would be up that year. Pools in for sure.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I'm just laughing Deck because I'm thinking the would be
one writer that's like shoeless Joe Jackson.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
I mean, he's not a first ballot guys, but it's
the same thing.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
Like it's but like when you know, you would think
it would be what a weekend it would be for
Albert Poolholes, which would then be completely overshadowed by Pete
Rose getting in at that point.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
That's true, but an honor not to be inducted with
those names. That's kind of cool. Well, hey, we're gonna
do a little Shack Diesel trivia coming up, and you
know what, I got a question for you that'll take
ten seconds in your lifetime because we brought up the
great Bartlett Giamatti. Can you name the commissioners of baseball
since you've been alive. Let's go from we'll just say
roughly nineteen eighty till now. Can you know Frank White? No,
(23:12):
I mean Bill White. Yeah, he's one of them. Bill White, Yeah, no, what, Yes,
he was on the baseballs Bill White, M I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I think he was a National League.
Speaker 9 (23:26):
It was.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Bill.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Bill White was a yeah, National league guy. I don't know,
but I'll go Troy v Vincent.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Troy Vincent football player in our life.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
If you, let's say you were born around nineteen eighty
Bowie Kent Kun remember and then then it was uh
was it Peter or or b of Now here's where
I remember Giamatti, fave Vincent, bud Sea League obviously, Yeah,
who was.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
It before in the NFL?
Speaker 7 (23:59):
Who?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
What was it before? Roger Goodell, Paul Taglibu before that,
Pete Rozzell. There you go, you know what? I should
have known that? All right?
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But it is time. We don't have contesting.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Yet, No, because we were Oh, Bob Davis, you were
doing trivia.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
At the end of this last segment. Yes, well, you
need to give.
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The phone number right eight ninety nine on Fox If
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So if you want to play call now eight seven
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while the phones are being answered by Danny g we'll
get a contestant in a one minute.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
In the meantime, Dan Buyer's got an update dB What up? Yes?
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Fellas the breaking news of the day. It's been a
bunch of it, but Major League Baseball has ended the
lifetime bands of seventeen deceased individuals, including Pete Rose and
Shoeless Joe Jackson, taking the players off of the permanently
ineligible list major League BITS. Major League Commissioner Rob Manfred
issued a statement calling the move a policy issue, stitting
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the permanent ineligibility ends upon the passing of the disciplined individual.
The Hall of Fame is out of Baseball's hands. It's
now in the hands of the Baseball Hall of Fame
in Cooperstown, as the Historical Overview Committee will develop a
ballot of eight names for the Classic Baseball Era Committee
to vote on when it next meets in December of
twenty twenty seven. So the earliest that Pete Rose or
(27:27):
Shoeless Joe Jackson or any of the fifteen others could
be in trine into the Baseball Hall of Fame in
Cooperstown is the summer of twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Dan, sorry to interrupt. The more more I think about it,
the more ridiculous it sounds. It's like, it sounds like
it's about Rob Manford, not about Pete Rose or any
of these other guys. Because if someone was in prison,
let's say they were in prison for a lifetime, lifetime
in prison and evidence came out and it proved them innocent, Like,
you know what, we were wrong, They still spent their
life in prison. What differences to make after they're dead?
Speaker 1 (27:59):
None? None, none, none.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
And by the way, I heard Elon Musk say, they're
all still collecting social Security?
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Is that true? All seventeen?
Speaker 2 (28:07):
You know what, DNA proves them innocence, so we reinstate
their innocence.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Yeah, but they're dead. Who cares? Yeah? True.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
In other baseball news, Twins and Orioles postponed tonight, as
are the Cardinals and Phillies. Cleveland's up on Milwaukee early
won nothing. Celtics forward Jason Tatum underwent successful surgery repairs
torn right achilles tended after suffering the injury, and last
night's Game four loss to the Knicks. Tonight, Pacers and
Cavs seven o'clock Eastern Nuggets and Thunder nine to thirty
Eastern Time in their game fives. Portland Trailblazers are up
(28:36):
for sale. Schedule leaks in the NFL include the Vikings
and Steelers playing in Dublin, Ireland, then the following week
the Vikings and Browns play in London. How about Madrid, Spain?
Is the Commanders in Dolphins November sixteenth, that's week eleven.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Guys, back to you, I'll be honest with you. My
forty nine ers are getting no love. Not from you.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
I'm saying in general, is the sentiment that they're there.
They've fallen off that much.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
We know like five games of the Eagles right now,
and we don't know anything of the forty nine ers.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Do anything of the Lions. We don't know the Buccaneers.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yes, right, there's other teams that the forty nine ers
still have, like an eleven over under win total in Vegas.
Like the forty nine ers lost some players, but there's
still the forty nine ers that I don't know. I
feel insulted.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
In due time, we shall.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
See, all right, you know what, We're gonna play a
little shack Diesel trivia to wrap up the show in
a little bit. But let me just read a quick
little article. I saw this favors all of us in
the room, and then we'll play when we get back.
What did you really read it or you just saw
the headline. I just saw the headline, but it said
this is an article from Vogue magazine. I know you
love Vogue. It said gen xers are the coolest generation.
(29:42):
And I'll just read one line and it sort of
sums it all up. It says that over the past
few years, you have gen Z hating on millennials for
being cringe. You have millennials hating on gen Z for
being just.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
A little piece of trash.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Everyone hates boomers, but if you're roughly forty and your
gen X, no one seems to hate on you. Cool
with that bing gen X Where it is? I like
it where it's at. It's like you're somewhere in the middle,
no doubt. All right, listen, Shack Diesel Trivia. We play next.
We got your contestants lined up right here on Fox
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So I'm in the hallway.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
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No diggity, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Now before we do Shack Diesel trivia, New York Duke
Online one says he has a an explanation a quick
Ray Liota story. I mean, the more I do the
most popular guy from Union, New Jersey, Ray Liota, and
then it's what Artie Langam and Steve Cavino.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
And then Robert wool and then Steve Cavino may be
somewhere down there, but he.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Came up on the show today because of Shoeless Joe Jack. Yeah,
he played Shoeless Joe and Field the Dreams.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
What's up, man, Well, I've got that.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
I've got a story for you. Really quickly. I met
Ray Liota briefly for an afternoon. My best friend at
the time was an actress named Gina Masso Jacobo. She
played Janice Ralthy in Good Villas.
Speaker 7 (31:37):
And The.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Gumaud In Apartment eight C.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Exactly exactly, And as part of the you know, basically
encouragement for Scorse, they encouraged those guys, Ray and my
friend Gina do you know, like spend some time together.
So we've lived up on wets av Second Street, and
Ray came up with the apartment. It was about this
time at that as I want to say, about nineteen
(32:03):
eighty nine, and he was he was the most amazing,
wonderful person. It was between obviously Fields of Dreams and
and Good Sellas. But we spent the afternoon watching playoff
basketball on the couch and talking to me. I'm a Jersey.
He mentioned he was from New Jersey and I'm from Randolph,
(32:26):
New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Yeah, just what to say? Yeah, very cool.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Story, chantisty, thanks for sharing man, and by the way, correction,
Janice ROSSI lived in an apartment to.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Are two are? So? What girl?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Did you call a hoe in that I was bringing up? Well,
you want to get a contestant here for Scheck Diesel trivia.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Let's go.
Speaker 10 (32:54):
Whenever we say not to name drop, that means we're
about to name drop.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 10 (33:00):
Not only our CNR friends with Tyson and mahomes hey man,
they're also buddies with a big Aristotle.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
What's up a big shot d aka shack fou aka
shat daddy Oka the big Aristotle.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Guess what it's gotten to win some sing our product?
Speaker 10 (33:17):
Time for some basketball triviads.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
With basketball trivia. What he said, I's the break bat boards.
Now I'm breaking records for EFISOL Radio.
Speaker 10 (33:26):
Shack Dzel basketball trivia.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
All right, FSR security walking our broke shack food into
the main studios.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Sorry to make you wait, dude, got me waiting here.
I'm a busy bus man. Shack guy.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Danny G said, you're no longer the most popular NBA
legend that's a broadcaster.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
That's fools. I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
He's following in my footsteps, my big footsteps. My little
Jordan wishes he was me. Let's meet the contestants.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Michael Jordan trying to be like me.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Ten time winner Double Talk Davis right over there, Space Jam.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Was not as good as Kazam. I mean now he's
trying to get in a booth like me. It's not wrong.
Four time winner Spotty Boy. Hey, what's up? All right?
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Five today, Spotty I'll use you for this. Would you
love to travel to beautiful Tulsa, Oklahoma? Okay, Waterloo, Iowa? Oh, Spokane, Washington,
all right? Roanoak Virginia or Miami, Florida.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
I'm a huge fan of the song Waterloo by Abbas.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yeah, but you also but you also like Tulsa spell backwards.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Oh that's tough. I'm gonna go with Waterloo, all right?
That is Corbyn. Don't think that didn't cross my minds.
By the way, Corbyn, what's up? What do you do
for a living there in Iowa?
Speaker 2 (34:31):
I'm the truck driver nice man keeps American running truck drivers.
Speaker 7 (34:35):
Man.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Here are the rules for shack Diesel trivia. The first
contestant with two correct answers is the champ. If there's
a tie, we have a tie breaker question. Your name
is your buzzer, but you do have to wait until
all three possible answers are read.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
If there's two wrong answers in a row, we move
on to the next question. Are you ready?
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yes, let's get it all. I've been ready, but you have
me sitting around waiting. All right, come on, all right,
let's get this party started. In the next Celtics series,
how many of their first hundred and three pointed times
did the Celtics miss?
Speaker 3 (35:03):
How many?
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Hold wo is it A eighty two, B, seventy five
or sixty seven?
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Well, Corbyn spoke up. Corbyn got to say your name.
You gotta wait till all three possible answers are read. Okay, okay,
so say Corbyn corbyny, which one, A, B or C U?
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Yes?
Speaker 10 (35:26):
Corbyn on the border?
Speaker 1 (35:28):
How did he know that he didn't need multiple chicks? Oh? Crazy?
When you get it like I gotta say, Kazam say
with authority? All right?
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Halfway to a swiggy a space jam. We move on
to round number two.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Round two, What was our once quoted saying about leadership, okay,
Michael Jordan has none, just kidding.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
When you flyop, it's actually about flopping.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
When you flop, that's just another message that you don't
know how to play me, stand up and take your
medicine like a man.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Oh b, I've.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Never seen Michael Jordan flop, so I don't want to
hear how it's only a problem with today's players.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Wait, no, no, no, you read your own quote wrong. What
do you mean I read it wrong? I've seen I've
even seen.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
I've even seen Michael Jordan flop. Sorry, don't have my
glasses on, So I don't want to hear how it's
only a problem with today's players. Or see, flopping is
for suckers who should be flipping flapjacks?
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Spot spot. What was that quoted saying about leadership?
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Was it flop floppers or for suckers flapjacks flipping flapjacks?
Speaker 1 (36:32):
I like that one.
Speaker 9 (36:35):
You're wrong.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
That's a good quote, though, Corbyn for the steal.
Speaker 10 (36:40):
He he yes.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Yes, cuzamt we know it was better than this pace jam.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
Yeah you said, oh nice, Yeah, when you flop, that's
just another message that you don't know how to play Shack,
stand up and take your edison like a man.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Let me guess next. Michael Jordan's gonna want to wrap.
Michael Jordan's gonna want to dj. He's gonna want to
be a nicy hot He's trying to be like Shak Diesel.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
He's gonna try to do a meme of him or
a gift of him. Jimmy, He's trying to do the
shimmy me.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Don't you want a bunch of Papa John's I hear
he's buying up dominoes, trying to do Franchise's.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Trying to be like Shaq he Hey, congratulations.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Great job, Corbin in a row for the w great Jets.
We're going to send out a shiny new CEA in
our water bottle to Waterloo, Iowa.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
There you go, Iowa. Awesome. Congratulations. Alright, I enjoy the
game tonight, Tulsa, Iowa, NBA. Alright, letter guys, I'm busy later.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
Thanks sank Shack to go back and spell Tulsa backwards
and see what that read out.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
But did you just figure that out? Did you hear
him laugh? That's why I was laughing.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
They out because I couldn't think in my head, and
I was like, oh you you p brain.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
I knew that's why the I would drop. You just
played that's Stan Patrick. Crush it is? And yes, yeah,
Iowa there is. And you have some maybe some DP news.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Right.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Well, we're gonna be filling in for Dan Patrick on
Friday morning, so I will.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
We'll be there Friday morning in for the great Dan Pat.
Thanks for the morning.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Remember when I said I was watching I now pronounce
you Chuck and Larry. I haven't seen that in a
long time. When the last time you saw that movie
probably in the two thousand. It's now available on Netflix
or whatever. So I was watching it. Dan Patrick also
in that movie. He's in many Sandler movies, but it
was cool to see him in that. It's a wild movie.
I think a forgotten classic from Sandler and Kevin James Worth.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
The Watch. I forgot all about that.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
But yes, listen out on Friday when we get you
ready for the weekend with weekend hob knobbing and what
else we doing on Friday. I feel like we have
a new Friday Spectacular.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
Yeah, we've been playing Steve Covino or Bill Belichick.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Oh yeah, I was trying to forget that. So, yeah,
that's in for Dan Patrick on Friday and then tomorrow
Fox Sports Radio Nation Regular Show, regular time. But we
get you ready for your hump day. Midweek Major? What
every Wednesday? The biggest stories in sports and pop culture?
Are they mid week or major? Well, hey tonight gearing
(39:07):
up for anything you watch in the O the Yanks
on tonight or what? Yeah, Yanks Seattle got to play
for Oswaldo Cabrera, poor kid, tough injury. Let's not forget
they put them on the ten day d L. Honestly,
that's like a season ender. It looked like them ankle fracture,
but it spun around.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
You guys, think the Cavs are gonna. I was get
that Wight.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Just looking as Donovan Mitchell out.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Is that that that's the determining factor of he I
mean either way the Pacers, you have to assume PACER's
got this right, Yeah, three to one, and then you
get the Pacers Nicks. That would be that's the dope
series right there. Yeah, but it just takes you back
to nostalgia times. Let's not forget. We have a big
game five tonight, tied up two games apiece Nuggies at Thunder,
and the world seems to think the Thunder has us
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on the control ten and a half point favorite.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
Update seventeen minutes ago on All Star Guards, Spider Mitchell
he's going to be available to face the Pacers.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Well, that would insinuate why they are eight and a
half point favorite. So the Cabs are big favorite tonight,
sayment to Thunder. So some NBA action tonight, some baseball
like every night, and hey, hopefully you enjoy.
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is there for your viewing pleasures. I'm Cavino Talkoscos Forever. Hey,
that's Rich, Sam Dan Spot. We're all here rocking out
on a talk Go Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Now we're gonna get to Pete Rose and shootless Joe
Jackson in a second. But you know we've been talking
about DraftKings, the pick six. I gotta tell you I
started doing it myself the last couple of nights because
it's allowed here in California. On Baseball Dude, we talked
about the NBA over unders. I've been doing over under
(01:22):
strikeouts and home runs and it's so fun, honestly, for instance,
like like Aaron Judge home run. You know, yesterday I
missed out because I had Verdlander under four and a
half strikeouts.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
But you could take like three things and it keeps
you so locked into just Danly baseball. And again, this.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Is not an fIF this is not an official commercial.
This is me just telling you I'm having a lot
of fun with it, the pick six thing, but you
don't have to do six because the odds are tough.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
With do you got tonight? You pick anything tonight? I'm
gonna go over in a little bit, all right, I
want to look.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
But uh yeah, we do the codes and the commercials
rightfully so, but I'm telling you personally, I'm really having
fun with that. I was talking to some of my
softball buddies about, like, dude, we do it. I'm like,
you better use our stupid.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Code, buddy, cliight, Hey, Pete Rose.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
The big story today, Shoeless Joe Jackson the big story today.
Can I tell you, for a split second, a split second, you.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Thought it was Joe Jackson, the singer. No, I thought
it was Michael Jackson's dead Joe Jackson. No.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
For a split second, I saw a picture of Pete
Rose and his captain kangaroo haircut, wearing his red sat
and he says, reinstated, And.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I was like, yeah, he died.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
That's right, Like I forgot for a split second, he
thought it said Pete Rose resurrected.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
No red.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I'm like, oh, man, look finally, oh oh, but yeah,
he's dead. Breaking news today. You heard the inmyer. MLB
Commissioner Rob Manford removed Pete Roses and shoeless Joe Jackson
and other deceased players from the league's permanently ineligible list
on Tuesday. Reinstated, remove from MLB's permanent ineligible list. And
(03:04):
I'm like, Okay, shoeless Joe Jackson, legend. We know the story,
We've seen, feel the dreams, we know shoeless Joe Jackson. Yeah,
Pete Rose, Okay, we all know his story. A little
too little, too late here, but okay, all right, it
makes sense. And then my other question along with Jay
Stue too, because I saw Jay Stu in the hallway.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Who Yeah, He's like, he's like Jay who j Stu producer.
He's like, my question would be, well why, and I'm like,
and give you that well eyebrow raised? Is that big Jay?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
He's like why and I'm like, yeah, I know why
now it's that big Stu. He actually said, my first
question is why on a random Tuesday, May thirteenth, because
of what's happening tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
And then yeah, we.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Did the Detective List oh today tomorrow actually Pete Rose Day.
So it does kind of add up and make sense.
I don't know if that's why it ends up, no,
but it does make it make more sense, right, like
why now? And then then I started thinking too when
I hear Dan Meyer saying and other seventeen other people
on the list, and I'm like, can I mean anyone
else on the list? And then it makes sense. Do
(04:17):
you remember the movie eight Men out?
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yep? Those are eight of them.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, eight of them are from the Black Sox Scandal,
So most of the ore black Socks that played with
shoeless Joe Jackson, the guys with the shoes, so Jackson
most of them and are affiliated with that scandal from
back then.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
So Iowa Sam brought up something about ray Liota, and
I was laughing because it's exactly what I picture in
my mind.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Do you You're looking at like MLB Network right now
and you see a picture of Pete Rose and then
a real picture of Joe Jackson.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
You're like, why isn't really is that?
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Why is that not really Ray Liota's face? You're like, oh, wait, oh,
you think of Joe Jackson.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
You're like, can I give you about Rayleiota fun fact?
Please do.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
He's my hometown of Union, New Jersey, and he's in
our Union, New Jersey High School Hall of Fame. And
I was there sitting in the audience when he was inducted.
Goodfellas came out in nineteen ninety. I graduated ninety four,
so he got inducted around ninety one, ninety two or
something like that, fresh off of the movie Fame, and
(05:20):
it was an experience. I'll leave it at that. And
we later had him on the show years later. But
you in the Hall of Fame and then you remember
him most aside from Goodfellas and Shoeless Joe Jackson in
the Field of Dreams. You know him best, probably from
Chanticks can't dick Chanty. Are you in the Hall of Fame,
by the way, am I?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
No?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I'm the Hall of Nothing? How are you not in
the Union Hall of Fame?
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Because just Raeleiota I did going up against Raiota.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Robert wool and uh Aarti Lang already lang. They're all
from my hometown.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
No one else, no room for Stevens could be a
former Yankee, Joe Joe Collins.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Joe Collins, you should be on the melt Rush call.
You can get in there. You should get in. Yeah, man,
I think so.
Speaker 6 (05:57):
Of those seventeen players that were on the list, all
of them in one way or another except two were
tied to gambling of some sort.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yeah, I know. I had to look it up.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, because I'm like, all right, well, that there's eight covered, right,
eight men out that famous movie from the was it
late eighties with John Cusack. I remember going to see
it too, the Black Seck Scandal. Looked to see if
I knew or recognized any other names, and you really don't.
But they all all are gambling related, which is so
ironic and almost.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Hypocritical in today's world.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Look how Rich just started off the segment how much
fun he's having gambling on baseball? Yeah, and we're still
like holding this against these guys, and I get it.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
They broke rules that applied. Then oh one of the
other reasons.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say, don't hold it against
Benny Koff Kavino. It was just because he was acquitted
on an auto theft charge but was still subsequently banned.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Right, auto theft.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
And then we all know shuffling Phil Douglas, right, the
old New York Giants player. He was banned after threatening
his manager, So that's why he was on the ineligible shocking.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I'm gonna go to chat GPT right now and see
if chat GPT could give Rich an old school baseball nickname.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Please do has been obsessed with this. It's going to
take four gallons of water to spit that out. I
got it.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
It, don't scarecrow Rich Davis. That would be kind of mine.
Maybe it's more Wizard of Oz than anything. Can we
give radio host Rich Davis an old school baseball nickname?
Come double Talk Davis. Perfect for a radio host known
(07:44):
for chatting up a storm. Double Talk Davis, Rich the
Mouse rich the.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Mouthpiece, Davis reflects his role as a vocal personality. Yeah, hey,
there he is quick draw Davis with the double quick
suggests double talking to Day's double play.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Nice and fast talking.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Oh there he is slick Davis would play at second base,
a nod to a smooth talker with charm. Oh this one,
there he is, step into the play. Chattabox Davis.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I think that's the winner. Chatterbox, Chatterbox Davis an era appropriate.
Oh yeahs bat in two thirteen. Chatta Box Davis.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
So shoeless Joe Pete Rose.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Now, I'm not saying this because I don't want to
get on the bed side of Rob Manford. I don't
want any baseball hookups ever taken away from me. But
I'm reading a lot of sentiment online like Adam hit
us up on x and said, Yo, guys, I'm big
baseball fans like you. I love MLB, but Rob Manford
is a damn coward. Removing Rose and Shoeless Joe from
the band list because they quote are no longer with
(08:47):
us and cannot represent a threat to the integrity. No
threat to the integrity of the game. As the quote goes,
and as you heard from Dan Byer, it does feel
lame and like, yeah, was this really announcement worthy? We
all know that it's like death also eliminates people from
(09:07):
life and imprisonment. His lifetime ban was lifted from Baseball. Yeah,
they're dead. And not to sound morbid, I joked before
and I said, hey, old Barry Bond should fake his
death just to know.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Guys like Barry.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Bonds and Roger Clemens the Rocket those guys know now
in the back of their head. It sounds terrible, but
they're like, I guess when I'm dead one day, nothing family,
my family will get to see this.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
No, that is not correct, because they are eligible. No
one's voting for that's right. This is the stipulation with
Rose is that it's also not a guarantee that this
Classic Committee Baseball era committee votes Pete Rose and shoeless
Joe Jackson, and they still need to be voted in
(09:53):
by the Baseball Hall of Fame, which no separate entity
is we correct, And in nineteen eighty nine, when Rose
was in his lifetime ban, there was no ban for
the Hall of Fame at that time. It only came
in nineteen ninety one when Rose was first eligible that
the Hall of Fame said, well, anybody that's on the
permanently ineligible list cannot be enshrined into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Shoeless.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
Joe Jackson actually was up for enshrinement in the nineteen
thirties and nineteen forties despite being banned. The ban for
the Hall of Fame didn't come in until nineteen ninety one,
until after Pete Rose had agreed to his lifetime ban
with Bargie Amadi but Bonds. All of the Clemens Rafael
palmerra A Rod all have been on the ballot. Remember
we say they get thirty eight percent of the vote,
(10:37):
they get forty percent of the vote.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
So they're all they're all clean. They're all clean for
to be enshrined.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Caught in me chattabox Davis got a double take for
double talk. There he is double talk Davis. Yeah, he's
of for two today Chatta box Davis so funny. So
to me, it's almost like, yeah, what would he do.
It's almost like you're you're you're making the statement for
(11:05):
some sort of like you know what, Rob Manford, you
did the right thing, you did nothing. They died, I
mean you're dead does anything really matter? Like what you mentioned,
I'm not in the Union High School Hall of Fame. Yea,
is it gonna mean Deadley squat to me?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
If I'm dead? Who cares? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:22):
This is like when Kenny Stabler was put into the
Hall of Fame right after he died. I was like,
it sucks the life out of the joy out of it.
I mean, it's you're not giving anyone an honor. You're
just saying they're dead. So it doesn't matter. You're not
giving them anything. They died, there's no more bandlifted. They're
obviously not a threat, you know why, because they're dead.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
It's dumb, the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Just what about the family and the organization like the Reds.
I was gonna say that about the statement about how
happy they are as.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
An organ you know what, it made them much more
happy to see their grandfather and their father and their
family member honored when he was alive and when it mattered.
So yeah, it might help the family legacy a little bit,
but it didn't help anything for Pete Rose. And again
it's again, it's baseball, dude. It's not like he murdered anybody.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
This guy, this guy here is dead cross him off,
then off. I look at it this way.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Kavino and I have made it a point over the years,
and we try to do this, honor people while they're here.
Nothing bothers me more than when some actor, musician, a
great athlete, someone dies and then everyone decides to, as
the kids say, give them their flowers.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Give them their flowers while they're alive, they swear to God.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
We make a deliberate attempt to try to do that
every once in a while, whether it be here on
Fox Sports Radio or a Patreon show, you'll just have
a random thought, you'll appreciate somebody, and like, you know,
I'm gonna write this down because this dude deserves some
props or some credit. He's been doing it for too long.
He's too great at what he does. No one's gonna
talk about it until he's dead. Let's talk about him now.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
So that's why I feel bad about this whole Pete
Rose thing. We said it over and over again that
he'll be acknowledged once he dies, and it's exactly what happened.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Is Donald Trump gonna try try to take CREDI fittscress. Ever,
then he say, like early on, like we're gonna get
him in.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Oh my god, that's a whole other conversation in itself.
And again, it doesn't matter. It doesn't mean he's going
to be in the in the Hall of Fame, guys.
It just means that he's eligible now and that he's
no longer banned because he's no longer a threat to
the MLB.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
It also, as you brought up the point about the families, Yeah,
and I know Danny brought up Kenny Stabler, but Kesey
Stabler didn't do anything wrong like they should have. They
should have enshrined him. Pete Rose did something wrong. And
what Major League Baseball is saying is we know that
he did something wrong, and if Pete Rose were allied
today and we put this into effect, he would not
(13:48):
be eligible. He still would be on the permanently ineligible
list because he's still alive. The ruling, as Manfred calls it,
policy says, if you are dead, well, then you're done.
You are no longer a threat to the game. You're
no longer you know, could possibly bring any stain to
the game. So that's over with. So with that, the
(14:10):
end of your life means the end of your sentence.
Which may give solace to the family or the Reds fans,
but doesn't necessarily put Pete Rose or shoeless Joe Jackson
off the hook because they aren't here to sell to be.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
So it's only eligible because he's lifeless Joe Jackson. Yes,
that is correct.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
And by the way, yes, think out how long the
Joe Jackson family had to wait to get this news.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
How long has that guy been dead for? Right? It's ridiculous,
like probably like the FDR. It's a weird announcement. You know,
that's my Joe Jackson. How long he's been dead?
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Yeah, Jason Sewart said he had been dead for seventy
one years.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
He died December fifth, nineteen fifty one. Seventy one years.
That's been dead.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
That's what, seventy three years, seventy four years, whatever it is.
He was no threat seventy one years ago. But now
we announce it. I guess better late than never.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
You can't have a death sentence, I mean you can.
You're gonna have a life sentence then when you die?
Speaker 7 (15:09):
Was it?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Eight eight men out for for a lifetime and seventy
one years now? Listen again, no, you know, with no
disrespect to you know, victims and major crimes. Right, yeah,
But you ever see someone in court and they hand
down some piece of trash, some real piece of s
like back to back to back, all these life.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Sentences, and you're like, one's enough.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
What Like, I get it, because you want to make
sure that the people that were affected have their their justice,
their feeling. But like there are times that it's like
thirty years to life for this count, this counts thirty
years and a guy serving like five back to back
consecutive life this guy to live to three hundreds, not
gonna live five lives.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
It's it's symbolic. It's the message, know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Symbolic, But I think there's something while meaningful to those times.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
They always say banned for what? Banned for life? Right?
That would that's what you would think.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
So it's implied, isn't it implied that when they die
the ban is lifted. Oh but not for Joe Jackson
and the other eight guys, it was for life plus
seventy one.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
Manfred said that ban for life was never a part
of this permanently an eligible list.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Now what he and that's what he said.
Speaker 6 (16:20):
They called it policy that now they could be taken
off the list and allow this to be put in
the hands of the Baseball Hall of Fame. I brought
this up earlier. I'm going to try it again in
it because it didn't sound right. So maybe I'm I'm
gonna be double talk Davis here. But earlier today on
the network on Doug Show, the Menendez trial is front
and center here in southern California, and I don't know
(16:41):
if it's that way across the country, but there is.
I think that there are parallels. They may not be
exact to what's going on, but again there was a
questioning about the sentencing and how that went out. It
was the same thing with Pete Rose, where he thought
that he would be able to renegotiate his entrance into
Major League Baseball after a year, but decided to accept
(17:02):
this agreement to say that he didn't bet on baseball
to stop litigation against the league. Then Barciamadi dies, fae
Vincent becomes commissioner and says, well, this is the agreement
you signed. It you said that you are permanently ineligible
from Major League Baseball and it was never moved from that,
and commissioners after the fact did not want to change
(17:23):
a commissioner's previous ruling. Manfred even mentioned that in the
statement it's I mean, I don't know if it's like
game a Covino's favorite game of Jenga. But there's just
a lot of pieces like in and out here and
moving around, and somehow or another, Manfred's figured out a
way to craft this in a way that I don't know,
to me kind of makes sense.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
But I may be trying to take glory on just
a weird announcement.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
See yeah, I think that that could you know, that
could be part of it. And a lot of people
like you, I think, just don't are you know, see
right through it.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
It's like a made up valor. It's like, hey, guys,
look what I'm doing. And I'm like, okay, but he died.
And by the way, speaking of the Menenda's brothers, I
do love the infamous Mendez brother Mark Jackson basketball card.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Have you ever seen that? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
NBA Hoops NBA Hoops nineteen ninety is Mark Jackson throwing
a pass, but the Menandaz brothers are sitting right there
court Sidne I.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Have this card in my collection. I have it. Yeah, Yeah,
that's a classic it's a weird one. All right.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Let's get to the phone calls on this because it
is a big, big breaking story today Pete rose off
the ineligible list along with the other Black Sox guys
and other gambling stories.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
And who do we got rich? Let's ahead of Brooklyn
and Bruno? What's up Bruno seeing our boys?
Speaker 8 (18:42):
I love you guys, Hey, I this is near and
dear to my heart. I honestly believe this is such
a really bad thing Pete. You know, to put him
in or they're considering putting him in after the fact,
keep him out, you know what I mean? They shouldn't.
They shouldn't put him in posthumously. It really isn't right.
The other players, the Black Sows guys, I can understand that,
(19:03):
but just think about the environment we live in today
with legalized gambling. I mean, don't all these players that
are still right now, I mean NFL and VA. These
guys gamble on their phones every day. Now that being said,
it is it's just it's window dressing. It's terrible now
because you don't want to just leave. I'd rather see
him be left out. It's Susan Louci.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Don't get worse sympathy thing. It's almost better. It's almost
it's almost better off leaving them out. I agree, you
know what, it's like a great call, you know, agreed,
great call that is, but you could feel and see
right through the the tom foolery that is just disingenuous.
It feels odd like and forced, especially the current. Like
(19:42):
I said, we started the segment me talking about how
I'm loving doing the uh DraftKings pick six and you know,
gambling and sports wagering is a part of life now.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
It's almost like that port and guess what Rose was
around while the explosion happened.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
And let me tell you it's also it's like that
sad story of like a that's sitting in jail because
he had a joint on him and he got arrested
for weed. Meanwhile, like everywhere you go, there's you know, shop,
we'd legal shops everywhere.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
So Bruno's saying, it's sending a bad message at this time, right.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yeah, it's it's weird.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
It's a mixed message, uh, Kurt. Actually, let's go to
Mitchell first. He's been on a whole for a while.
Thanks Mitchell eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox for
some buddy.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
What's up?
Speaker 9 (20:21):
Hey, what's up?
Speaker 10 (20:21):
Guys?
Speaker 9 (20:22):
Yeah, I just wanted to say, you know, blank, major
League Baseball and they can shove the lift up their
football pass because to me, I mean, you know, he
hadn't know that man didn't have much life left. They
could have took that up a year or so. They're
not doing it now for his career or anything else.
They're doing it to make themselves feel better.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
So yeah, yeah, I mean I feel that the announcement
on this random Tuesday, a day before Pete Rose Day,
does make you feel that way.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
It does.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Pete Rose legend, shoeless, Joe Jackson legends. Will they be
in the Hall of Fame in two years when the
committee votes?
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Probably Kurt and Penn. What's up Kurt going on?
Speaker 7 (21:05):
Guys, I'll love her show.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Thank you man, Thank you man.
Speaker 10 (21:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (21:09):
No, so I'm probably you're not gonna like me. I'm
I was so happy when I heard the news today
about all of this. To be honest, I understand Pete
Rose is t Rose and as a person and everything else,
but the fact that he owns the record and there's
(21:31):
I hate what like the steroid guys, but he just
was Charlie Hustle.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Hey, dude, we're not We're not saying we're mad at
at this, We're mad at how it was handled.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yeah. Yeah, no, we all loved it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I just think it should have I think it should
have happened while he was alive. I hope you're not
missunderstanding credit.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I like p Rose.
Speaker 7 (21:47):
I think you should wish it would have happened. I
feel like people should be alive when they go into
Hall of Fame. Like I'm like more stoked about to
shoot a Joe Jackson thing.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yeah he's he's smiling down somewhere seventy one years later, Chantix.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
So if if Pete Rose is put on this ballot
that's going to be voted on by the Classic Baseball
Era Committee in December of twenty twenty seven, this would
be the class. Just some of the names that he
would go in, because remember there's always headliners, right, It
would be Albert Poolholes, Robinson, Cano, Yadier Molina, Steven Strasburg,
(22:23):
David Price, Lorenzo Caine, some of the names.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
That would be up that year. Pools in for sure.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I'm just laughing Deck because I'm thinking the would be
one writer that's like shoeless Joe Jackson.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
I mean, he's not a first ballot guys, but it's
the same thing.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
Like it's but like when you know, you would think
it would be what a weekend it would be for
Albert Poolholes, which would then be completely overshadowed by Pete
Rose getting in at that point.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
That's true, but an honor not to be inducted with
those names. That's kind of cool. Well, hey, we're gonna
do a little Shack Diesel trivia coming up, and you
know what, I got a question for you that'll take
ten seconds in your lifetime because we brought up the
great Bartlett Giamatti. Can you name the commissioners of baseball
since you've been alive. Let's go from we'll just say
roughly nineteen eighty till now. Can you know Frank White? No,
(23:12):
I mean Bill White. Yeah, he's one of them. Bill White, Yeah, no, what, Yes,
he was on the baseballs Bill White, M I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I think he was a National League.
Speaker 9 (23:26):
It was.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Bill.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Bill White was a yeah, National league guy. I don't know,
but I'll go Troy v Vincent.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Troy Vincent football player in our life.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
If you, let's say you were born around nineteen eighty
Bowie Kent Kun remember and then then it was uh
was it Peter or or b of Now here's where
I remember Giamatti, fave Vincent, bud Sea League obviously, Yeah,
who was.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
It before in the NFL?
Speaker 7 (23:59):
Who?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
What was it before? Roger Goodell, Paul Taglibu before that,
Pete Rozzell. There you go, you know what? I should
have known that? All right?
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Speaker 4 (26:06):
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Speaker 1 (26:39):
In the meantime, Dan Buyer's got an update dB What up? Yes?
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Fellas the breaking news of the day. It's been a
bunch of it, but Major League Baseball has ended the
lifetime bands of seventeen deceased individuals, including Pete Rose and
Shoeless Joe Jackson, taking the players off of the permanently
ineligible list major League BITS. Major League Commissioner Rob Manfred
issued a statement calling the move a policy issue, stitting
(27:05):
the permanent ineligibility ends upon the passing of the disciplined individual.
The Hall of Fame is out of Baseball's hands. It's
now in the hands of the Baseball Hall of Fame
in Cooperstown, as the Historical Overview Committee will develop a
ballot of eight names for the Classic Baseball Era Committee
to vote on when it next meets in December of
twenty twenty seven. So the earliest that Pete Rose or
(27:27):
Shoeless Joe Jackson or any of the fifteen others could
be in trine into the Baseball Hall of Fame in
Cooperstown is the summer of twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Dan, sorry to interrupt. The more more I think about it,
the more ridiculous it sounds. It's like, it sounds like
it's about Rob Manford, not about Pete Rose or any
of these other guys. Because if someone was in prison,
let's say they were in prison for a lifetime, lifetime
in prison and evidence came out and it proved them innocent, Like,
you know what, we were wrong, They still spent their
life in prison. What differences to make after they're dead?
Speaker 1 (27:59):
None? None, none, none.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
And by the way, I heard Elon Musk say, they're
all still collecting social Security?
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Is that true? All seventeen?
Speaker 2 (28:07):
You know what, DNA proves them innocence, so we reinstate
their innocence.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Yeah, but they're dead. Who cares? Yeah? True.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
In other baseball news, Twins and Orioles postponed tonight, as
are the Cardinals and Phillies. Cleveland's up on Milwaukee early
won nothing. Celtics forward Jason Tatum underwent successful surgery repairs
torn right achilles tended after suffering the injury, and last
night's Game four loss to the Knicks. Tonight, Pacers and
Cavs seven o'clock Eastern Nuggets and Thunder nine to thirty
Eastern Time in their game fives. Portland Trailblazers are up
(28:36):
for sale. Schedule leaks in the NFL include the Vikings
and Steelers playing in Dublin, Ireland, then the following week
the Vikings and Browns play in London. How about Madrid, Spain?
Is the Commanders in Dolphins November sixteenth, that's week eleven.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Guys, back to you, I'll be honest with you. My
forty nine ers are getting no love. Not from you.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
I'm saying in general, is the sentiment that they're there.
They've fallen off that much.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
We know like five games of the Eagles right now,
and we don't know anything of the forty nine ers.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Do anything of the Lions. We don't know the Buccaneers.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yes, right, there's other teams that the forty nine ers
still have, like an eleven over under win total in Vegas.
Like the forty nine ers lost some players, but there's
still the forty nine ers that I don't know. I
feel insulted.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
In due time, we shall.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
See, all right, you know what, We're gonna play a
little shack Diesel trivia to wrap up the show in
a little bit. But let me just read a quick
little article. I saw this favors all of us in
the room, and then we'll play when we get back.
What did you really read it or you just saw
the headline. I just saw the headline, but it said
this is an article from Vogue magazine. I know you
love Vogue. It said gen xers are the coolest generation.
(29:42):
And I'll just read one line and it sort of
sums it all up. It says that over the past
few years, you have gen Z hating on millennials for
being cringe. You have millennials hating on gen Z for
being just.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
A little piece of trash.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Everyone hates boomers, but if you're roughly forty and your
gen X, no one seems to hate on you. Cool
with that bing gen X Where it is? I like
it where it's at. It's like you're somewhere in the middle,
no doubt. All right, listen, Shack Diesel Trivia. We play next.
We got your contestants lined up right here on Fox
Sports Radio hangtime. Oh Shaq kill O'Neal's favorite song.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
So I'm in the hallway.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
We're about to do some Whack Diesel broke Shack trivia.
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Speaker 1 (30:53):
No diggity, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Now before we do Shack Diesel trivia, New York Duke
Online one says he has a an explanation a quick
Ray Liota story. I mean, the more I do the
most popular guy from Union, New Jersey, Ray Liota, and
then it's what Artie Langam and Steve Cavino.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
And then Robert wool and then Steve Cavino may be
somewhere down there, but he.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Came up on the show today because of Shoeless Joe Jack. Yeah,
he played Shoeless Joe and Field the Dreams.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
What's up, man, Well, I've got that.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
I've got a story for you. Really quickly. I met
Ray Liota briefly for an afternoon. My best friend at
the time was an actress named Gina Masso Jacobo. She
played Janice Ralthy in Good Villas.
Speaker 7 (31:37):
And The.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Gumaud In Apartment eight C.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Exactly exactly, And as part of the you know, basically
encouragement for Scorse, they encouraged those guys, Ray and my
friend Gina do you know, like spend some time together.
So we've lived up on wets av Second Street, and
Ray came up with the apartment. It was about this
time at that as I want to say, about nineteen
(32:03):
eighty nine, and he was he was the most amazing,
wonderful person. It was between obviously Fields of Dreams and
and Good Sellas. But we spent the afternoon watching playoff
basketball on the couch and talking to me. I'm a Jersey.
He mentioned he was from New Jersey and I'm from Randolph,
(32:26):
New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Yeah, just what to say? Yeah, very cool.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Story, chantisty, thanks for sharing man, and by the way, correction,
Janice ROSSI lived in an apartment to.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Are two are? So? What girl?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Did you call a hoe in that I was bringing up? Well,
you want to get a contestant here for Scheck Diesel trivia.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Let's go.
Speaker 10 (32:54):
Whenever we say not to name drop, that means we're
about to name drop.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 10 (33:00):
Not only our CNR friends with Tyson and mahomes hey man,
they're also buddies with a big Aristotle.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
What's up a big shot d aka shack fou aka
shat daddy Oka the big Aristotle.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Guess what it's gotten to win some sing our product?
Speaker 10 (33:17):
Time for some basketball triviads.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
With basketball trivia. What he said, I's the break bat boards.
Now I'm breaking records for EFISOL Radio.
Speaker 10 (33:26):
Shack Dzel basketball trivia.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
All right, FSR security walking our broke shack food into
the main studios.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Sorry to make you wait, dude, got me waiting here.
I'm a busy bus man. Shack guy.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Danny G said, you're no longer the most popular NBA
legend that's a broadcaster.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
That's fools. I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
He's following in my footsteps, my big footsteps. My little
Jordan wishes he was me. Let's meet the contestants.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Michael Jordan trying to be like me.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Ten time winner Double Talk Davis right over there, Space Jam.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Was not as good as Kazam. I mean now he's
trying to get in a booth like me. It's not wrong.
Four time winner Spotty Boy. Hey, what's up? All right?
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Five today, Spotty I'll use you for this. Would you
love to travel to beautiful Tulsa, Oklahoma? Okay, Waterloo, Iowa? Oh, Spokane, Washington,
all right? Roanoak Virginia or Miami, Florida.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
I'm a huge fan of the song Waterloo by Abbas.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yeah, but you also but you also like Tulsa spell backwards.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Oh that's tough. I'm gonna go with Waterloo, all right?
That is Corbyn. Don't think that didn't cross my minds.
By the way, Corbyn, what's up? What do you do
for a living there in Iowa?
Speaker 2 (34:31):
I'm the truck driver nice man keeps American running truck drivers.
Speaker 7 (34:35):
Man.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Here are the rules for shack Diesel trivia. The first
contestant with two correct answers is the champ. If there's
a tie, we have a tie breaker question. Your name
is your buzzer, but you do have to wait until
all three possible answers are read.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
If there's two wrong answers in a row, we move
on to the next question. Are you ready?
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yes, let's get it all. I've been ready, but you have
me sitting around waiting. All right, come on, all right,
let's get this party started. In the next Celtics series,
how many of their first hundred and three pointed times
did the Celtics miss?
Speaker 3 (35:03):
How many?
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Hold wo is it A eighty two, B, seventy five
or sixty seven?
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Well, Corbyn spoke up. Corbyn got to say your name.
You gotta wait till all three possible answers are read. Okay, okay,
so say Corbyn corbyny, which one, A, B or C U?
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Yes?
Speaker 10 (35:26):
Corbyn on the border?
Speaker 1 (35:28):
How did he know that he didn't need multiple chicks? Oh? Crazy?
When you get it like I gotta say, Kazam say
with authority? All right?
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Halfway to a swiggy a space jam. We move on
to round number two.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Round two, What was our once quoted saying about leadership, okay,
Michael Jordan has none, just kidding.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
When you flyop, it's actually about flopping.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
When you flop, that's just another message that you don't
know how to play me, stand up and take your
medicine like a man.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Oh b, I've.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Never seen Michael Jordan flop, so I don't want to
hear how it's only a problem with today's players.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Wait, no, no, no, you read your own quote wrong. What
do you mean I read it wrong? I've seen I've
even seen.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
I've even seen Michael Jordan flop. Sorry, don't have my
glasses on, So I don't want to hear how it's
only a problem with today's players. Or see, flopping is
for suckers who should be flipping flapjacks?
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Spot spot. What was that quoted saying about leadership?
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Was it flop floppers or for suckers flapjacks flipping flapjacks?
Speaker 1 (36:32):
I like that one.
Speaker 9 (36:35):
You're wrong.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
That's a good quote, though, Corbyn for the steal.
Speaker 10 (36:40):
He he yes.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Yes, cuzamt we know it was better than this pace jam.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
Yeah you said, oh nice, Yeah, when you flop, that's
just another message that you don't know how to play Shack,
stand up and take your edison like a man.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Let me guess next. Michael Jordan's gonna want to wrap.
Michael Jordan's gonna want to dj. He's gonna want to
be a nicy hot He's trying to be like Shak Diesel.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
He's gonna try to do a meme of him or
a gift of him. Jimmy, He's trying to do the
shimmy me.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Don't you want a bunch of Papa John's I hear
he's buying up dominoes, trying to do Franchise's.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Trying to be like Shaq he Hey, congratulations.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Great job, Corbin in a row for the w great Jets.
We're going to send out a shiny new CEA in
our water bottle to Waterloo, Iowa.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
There you go, Iowa. Awesome. Congratulations. Alright, I enjoy the
game tonight, Tulsa, Iowa, NBA. Alright, letter guys, I'm busy later.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
Thanks sank Shack to go back and spell Tulsa backwards
and see what that read out.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
But did you just figure that out? Did you hear
him laugh? That's why I was laughing.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
They out because I couldn't think in my head, and
I was like, oh you you p brain.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
I knew that's why the I would drop. You just
played that's Stan Patrick. Crush it is? And yes, yeah,
Iowa there is. And you have some maybe some DP news.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Right.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Well, we're gonna be filling in for Dan Patrick on
Friday morning, so I will.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
We'll be there Friday morning in for the great Dan Pat.
Thanks for the morning.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Remember when I said I was watching I now pronounce
you Chuck and Larry. I haven't seen that in a
long time. When the last time you saw that movie
probably in the two thousand. It's now available on Netflix
or whatever. So I was watching it. Dan Patrick also
in that movie. He's in many Sandler movies, but it
was cool to see him in that. It's a wild movie.
I think a forgotten classic from Sandler and Kevin James Worth.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
The Watch. I forgot all about that.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
But yes, listen out on Friday when we get you
ready for the weekend with weekend hob knobbing and what
else we doing on Friday. I feel like we have
a new Friday Spectacular.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
Yeah, we've been playing Steve Covino or Bill Belichick.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Oh yeah, I was trying to forget that. So, yeah,
that's in for Dan Patrick on Friday and then tomorrow
Fox Sports Radio Nation Regular Show, regular time. But we
get you ready for your hump day. Midweek Major? What
every Wednesday? The biggest stories in sports and pop culture?
Are they mid week or major? Well, hey tonight gearing
(39:07):
up for anything you watch in the O the Yanks
on tonight or what? Yeah, Yanks Seattle got to play
for Oswaldo Cabrera, poor kid, tough injury. Let's not forget
they put them on the ten day d L. Honestly,
that's like a season ender. It looked like them ankle fracture,
but it spun around.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
You guys, think the Cavs are gonna. I was get
that Wight.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Just looking as Donovan Mitchell out.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Is that that that's the determining factor of he I
mean either way the Pacers, you have to assume PACER's
got this right, Yeah, three to one, and then you
get the Pacers Nicks. That would be that's the dope
series right there. Yeah, but it just takes you back
to nostalgia times. Let's not forget. We have a big
game five tonight, tied up two games apiece Nuggies at Thunder,
and the world seems to think the Thunder has us
(39:53):
on the control ten and a half point favorite.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
Update seventeen minutes ago on All Star Guards, Spider Mitchell
he's going to be available to face the Pacers.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Well, that would insinuate why they are eight and a
half point favorite. So the Cabs are big favorite tonight,
sayment to Thunder. So some NBA action tonight, some baseball
like every night, and hey, hopefully you enjoy.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Anything else you ever need.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
You can always reach out Covino and Rich And just
a reminder before we get out of here, we're putting
the final touches on our June twentieth to twenty second
party in Las Vegas. This is your invite.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
All you gotta do make sure you're there and very
soon we'll give you details.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Is gonna be events from pool parties, live broadcast, a
lot of fun stuff. So meet some people June twentieth
to the twenty second. Your fogus book it. We'll see
you until tomorrow. I'll read it there at your Baby.
See you in the promis Land man. Later, guys,
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