November 29, 2024 • 43 mins
LaVar Arrington and Jonas Knox discuss potential replacements for Matt Eberflus as the head coach in Chicago. Is it true that Tua and the Dolphins can’t play in the elements or did they run into a true contender in the Packers? Will the Chiefs return dynasty form? Plus, updated odd, alt-casts and much more!
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Speaker 5 (02:01):
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your hat on for? Man, Like, I know you got
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I keep it on because I go to my second job.
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It was a ski mask, right, I ain't look the
(02:29):
scary type. But if he rolled up on me and
that mask was down, I got I mean, what do
you want?
Speaker 4 (02:35):
What you want? He walked down the hall. I threw
my car keys. You want it's cool? Man? Hey, hey, chill, chill, chill, chill.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Man.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Right, he should walk over to the Blue Dog just
to get something to go and see what they do.
Just see what happens over there. Walk into the whitings
of the world with that thing on. See where they're not.
They're still charging for stuff. They will be riding in
protest all right. Oh, there could have been, Yeah, there
could have been could have been some of that in Chicago.
(03:06):
Uh if Matt Eberflus was not let go by the
Bears following that disaster yesterday. So that was the news
that broke our one of the program here just a
couple hours ago here on Fox Sports Radio, that Mattiberflus
has been fired by the Chicago Bears. First time in
history of the organization they fired a coach in season,
(03:26):
Thomas Brown, the offensive coordinator who just recently became the
offensive coordinator because they fired their other offensive coordinator, Shane Waldron.
But Thomas Brown will be the interim head coach there
for the Chicago Bears. And you know, you just look
at you know, Maddiberflus's track record, and like there's just
like some of the stuff people don't remember or recall,
(03:50):
like just weird things that have happened during his tenure there.
Like you remember that his defensive coordinator, I think his
name was Alan Williams. Like the FBI raided is how yeahang,
whatever happened to that?
Speaker 4 (04:03):
I don't know, never what was that? Right about you?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
The FBI should have I don't know, like maybe there
was some stuff on some computers or something like that.
Just we never really earned from that. It was just all, well,
you know, I'll just call plays no problem here. It's like, okay,
I guess that's what we're doing. And then you know,
he hired Luke Etsy and then fired Luke Etsy, and
then he hired Hane Waldron. He got like nine games
into the season and fired him. It just like this
(04:26):
was the path that it was headed, and it was
going to happen after the season. And so now the
conversation becomes where did the Bears turn to next?
Speaker 5 (04:34):
And so question, Yeah, you know, there was a lot
of conversation. We were talking the last hour about Colorado
and what Dion's been able to build and catching a
tiger by the tail and lightning in the bottle, and
there was a lot of talking, a lot of big
name guys that are in media throwing out there, Dion
going to Dallas, and so much so that Jerry Jones
(04:57):
even got involved with the conversation and discussion, is there
the chance that another team looks at what the opportunity
could represent, especially a crappy team, you know, and looks
at it.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Listen, Albert Breer says, they're.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Going to keep the guys around in New York, Okay,
don't I don't see how that happens. There's already a
job that's going to be open that's probably maybe open
for the Jets in New York. Then you have Chicago
that's a big market. Cold market just just came open.
There's always the possibility that Carolina could come come open.
(05:36):
There are some I mean, the the interesting one is
the Raiders. And if you know you listen to us
and you know our show, you know the current head
coach is one of my closest friends and and somebody
that I played football with in Washington and New New
York and coach Antonio Pierce. But I wonder is that attractive.
(05:59):
I know they're saying, oh, friends with Tom Brady. He
just took over his minority stake, Da da DA could
be what's my guy's name? Come on, Mark Davis, no no,
no quote, coach the coach that played with him. Rabel
could be Vrabel that ends up being the guy because
of the relationship with him and Tom Brady. But think
(06:19):
about it. There's a relationship between Tom Brady and Shador
Sanders and Deon Sanders as well. Both under armour. Guys,
I just wonder, is there somebody else out there that
might be like, oh good, Jerry, mess it up, like
mess it up for yourself. Maybe you get rid of
McCarthy at the end of the year. But you know what,
we're already going to start conversations with Dion and and
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see if we can have him in line to possibly
come coach our franchise.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I would think that you would have to, especially if
you're drafting Shador, you would have to have the conversation
with Dion, because look, the Arizona.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Cardinals weren't going to move on.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
From Steve Wilkes if not for the fact that they
ended up up with the first overall pick, and they
knew that they wanted to take Kyler Murray, and they said, well,
let's just bring in Cliff Kingsbury. He's familiar. I want
those guys to work together. Why wouldn't you do that. So,
if you're drafting number one overall, whoever that is, and
you need a coach as well too, if you don't,
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at least.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Very better start doing a little bit more than what
he's doing in Washington, because that that man might sail
on him. If you don't get them, get get get
Jane Daniels pushing that ball down field a little bit
more than what he is.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Yeah, it's it's not been the same offense or same
team over the past, uh since.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
That Steeler game.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, I don't know what happened in that Steeler game,
but there was just something that when uh when sideways
there that Steeler.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Game, Pete Prisco tried to blame it on me. I
know that's where you're trying to go with this, trying
to say that I'm like, I'm the cursed on on
the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
I am not the curse they lost.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
They have not won a game, including the game that
I went back to after like eleven year, twelve thirteen
year hiatus from being around there like one of the
eighty greatest Commanders, and you showed back up there and
and they haven't won a game since.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
No, I don't know. I got my w hoodie on today.
It's right, you know that's something that would never happen.
Maybe I have cursed them.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
I do tell people though Joe Gibbs was at the
Dallas game. He was at the last game, so you know,
blame it on him too. Don't don't don't just look
at me and blame it on me. Blame it on
anybody who shows up at the game.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
So to your point, on the coaches and the coaching vacancies.
So obviously, you know, the Raiders is something that could
open up. We know the Bears have opened up. You've
got the Jaguars, You've got like that could be opening up.
Like you've got the Cowboys potentially, who knows, and Philly
and Nick Sirianni.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
I find it hard to believe.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
But you where they're at right now, that's not going
it just you know, we'll see how that plays out.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
But.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Be an epic drop off for Siriani. At this point,
they're trending in the right direction.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Because the question was posed to Albert Brier earlier, like, hey,
so you know Ben Johnson, Mike Vrabel Belichick, like when
it comes to Chicago, the most recent opening, where do
we stand?
Speaker 6 (09:17):
I mean, Ben Johnson, I think if you'd asked him
a year ago, it might have been the job he wanted.
I don't know if that's going to be the case.
The same way. They're in division with them obviously, you know,
But but I but I know he had interest last year,
so I think that's possible. And like I do think
they've got the infrastructure where he could just coach. I'm
a little less certain of Belichick and Vrabel. I think
(09:38):
the job in a vacuum would appeal to Belichick, and
I was able to the question is like, you've got
Kevin Warren as a team president, you got Ryan Poles
as the general manager, Like how did this whole thing
look under? Verybel under Belichick, because unless they're going to
be able to shape the organization a certain way, they
may be hesitant.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
To go there.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
You know, you look at Ben Johnson, who's you know,
ostensibly the first time, first time head coach going to
go there chest to coach, and I think it really
could be a very attractive job with Caleb there and
the roster they have in place and everything else. You know,
for guys like Rabel and Belichick, who may have like
a more I guess are a more global look at
like how they want to set up the entire organization.
(10:21):
Unless those guys are being to make some some bigger changes,
it's just who's going to be on their coaching staff.
They could wind up talking at the idea.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Of where would you say, of the potential openings, where
do you have the Bears with Caleb Williams at quarterback?
Because it is attractive, but it's dysfunctional. It's dysfunctional, man,
And you know, you asked yourself the question, if you
bring in a guy like I went through being in
a dysfunctional organization, and they brought in a guy like
(10:53):
a Bill Belichick, and some people may remember the name
Marty Soottenheimer. They brought in Marty. Marty came in and
started to fix and clean up things that he saw
that were issues and problems for the organization, and the
organization didn't take kindly to it, and he was relieved
of his duties after one season.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
There.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Now, I asked myself the question, when I think the
relevance of me making that point is is that how
many teams would Bill Belichick go to? That would be okay?
Because here's the thing. The teams that are going to
be in need of a coach are teams that are struggling,
and some have clearly defined that they are dysfunctional organizations.
If you bring in a guy like Bill Belichick, who's
(11:37):
going to identify the things that need to be changed.
Are some of those things that need to be changed,
including you as an owner, you as you know, this
person that's a decision maker. So maybe somebody who's a
little bit more obscure and not as recognizable a name,
but nonetheless are part of the dysfunction in the organization.
(12:00):
And how uncomfortable will will they become if you brought
in a guy like Bill Belichick, a guy like Mike
Vrabel who they do have a very strong presence and
a strong idea of how things are supposed to be done,
will that be a one and done because it's like, Okay,
(12:20):
well we brought you here because you did.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
What you did in New England or you did what you.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Did in Tennessee, but we don't want you to necessarily
do it where it impacts us and affects us. And
that's a very very difficult proposition to put a coach,
especially a coach that has coached at the level that
Bill Belichick is coached, that does he have the type
of patience to want the paycheck, want the ability and
(12:46):
the opportunity to coach, but be coaching under those circumstances.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
I just don't see that taking place.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
I can tell you this right now, Get ready for
people to start throwing out Lincoln Riley as a potential,
Like if you want to get the most out of Caleb,
who got the most out of him? And you and
I both know in this town.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
But would it be as an OC or as a
head coach because it's not like he's been blowing the
doors off of people with being a head coach. But
Cliff Kingsbury wasn't as OC left as an OC though, No,
but he took the head coaching down in Arizonas, but
he left his last gig as an OC.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
He's an o C and in Washington.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
As a head coach. He wasn't all that hot and.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
He wasn't that good in Arizona. So yeah, I just look,
I would finally cast it my boy a job, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (13:41):
I mean, Rabel Belichick, like there's gonna be some candidates
Ben Johnson's the first time or.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Some Okay, there you go, Like when you throw out
names like Ben Johnson, I like I like that. I
like that this this NFL is changing. The players are changing,
the personality these are changing, how you lead, those things
are changing. It's all changing.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
I love Rabel though.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
I just think some of these names that we're throwing out.
I think Rabel's name is a name that could stay
in circulation actively where you could say he's a guy
that can relate to the players. This is more of
a player coach relationship driven league more than ever.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
That's where we're at.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
We're not in a disciplinarian and we're not in an
old school coach. We're not in a I can't identify,
which is interesting. I just heard AJ Brown talking about
how they solid with with Sirihanni as a coach. They
support him, they feel good about him. But yet you
had an outside world sitting there saying it's everything, but
that these coaches that connect with their players on a
(14:49):
personal level, whether it's Andy Reed more so as the
uncle or the dad, the father figure, or if it's
like you're my boy, and like a cow Sanahan or
a Lafleur or a Mike you know, Mike McDaniel, These
are the type of coaches that are getting results. Dan
Campbell he's a player's coach. He played the game. A
(15:12):
lot of these guys played or have been around it.
So to me, I'm I'm to the point now where
I'm like I don't want to hear these old ass names.
I don't want to hear you talk about Bill Belichick,
talk about somebody who's new, talk about a young talent
that's that's coming, like like we mentioned Ben, talk about
(15:33):
new guys, new blood, new ways of approaching this, because
that's what it's going to take to find success in
today's new NFL, with today's new NFL players.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
It's they heard here on Fox Sports Radio. LeVar Arrington
Jonas Knox in for Colin by the way, Uh, your guys,
your Kwan Brisker, that's my dude, sent a tweet out
shortly after the news of Matty Verflu's being fired. Jakwan
Bersker is a safety for the Chicago Bears. God don't
(16:05):
make mistakesang, so dang, here we go, Here we go.
It is It is a circus what the Chicago Bears do.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Again? All right?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
So coming up next here though, we are going to
get into what is looking like, I don't know, a
bounce back opportunity, a real chance for people to see
what they've been coming for all season in the NFL.
Are they still the best? We'll find out here shortly
that's next to here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
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Speaker 4 (16:50):
Yeah, come on, man with the mask on. What up though?
Growing up in the hood years nineteen eighty four? Was
it store? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Yeah, of the trade, same old story and lets you
don't even know me?
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Come on now, shout's out the a hype man. Hell yeah,
I v R MC eight. Baby, you stupid, so stupid.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
It is the Herd here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington,
Jonas Knox in for Colin by the way, coming up
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close up shop. We are going to look ahead here
shortly to the game that will be taking place here
(17:44):
at top of the hour. That's going to be the
Chiefs and the Raiders. We'll get into that for you,
But I did want to get some reaction and a
couple of a couple of thoughts on the Miami Dolphins,
who have now lost seven straight games. When the temperature
drop to below freezing at kickoff. I'm surprised it's not
more than that. I thought it would be more than that,
(18:05):
But maybe they just haven't played in enough games to
where that's the current situation. But Miami loses to Green
Bay yesterday, and you know it's people are are complaining.
People are talking about kind of how they how they
handled the elements. Jordan Brooks of the Miami Dolphins, he
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had some strong commentary afterwards. He said this, I felt
like when we let the elements control the way that
we played, I thought we were soft.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
E simpilarly that I thought we were sought today.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
I don't know, guys, was too cold, Like I don't
know what it was, but I feel like they elements
played a part in how we played as a group.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
So and that was the results that we got.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Look, we've heard soft before. It's a head coach, that's it.
I thought the draw mayo.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Yeah, I don't have to play in it, so it's
easy to sit here and look at it, just like
it was easy to sit there and look at what
happened in the playoff game against the Chiefs last year,
where Patrick Mahomes had his helmet crack and you had
people get frostbite and you know, lose limbs, you know,
because the elements were so much and the Dolphins that
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are playing that, but it does feel like this is
an issue and to record is horrible and cold weather
Man's horrible. The Dolphins haven't won a playoff game on
the road since the Seahawks were in the AFC, right, Like,
that's how long it's been since they want a playoff
game on the road. So I'm looking at Miami and like,
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I like Tua, I like Mike McDaniel. The offense is fun,
and it just keeps coming down to the same conversation,
which is, yeah, but if they've got to go on
the road and play in the elements, they're screwed. Like
it just feels like that's where we're at with them.
So if you're the Dolphins, understand why that would be.
I mean, Alabama has played in the Elements, not like
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Tua has never played in the Elements, and and the
Tarik played in Kansas City. You know, some of these guys,
I mean they came from you know, the another receiver
from Alabama. You know, you got guys that played at
Penn State, you know. I mean, there's cold weather guys
on the team. What is the reasoning behind them not
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being able to win in the elements? I Like I
said at the top of the show, when you were
watching that game, you saw the Cheetah and other guys,
they went out there, they didn't have on clothes, like
it was cold. They went out there and they represented
themselves like, look, we're gonna go out here and we're
gonna treat this as business as usual. I thought the
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problem that that the Miami Dolphins ran into was that
they played against some better team, like can we not?
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Can we not bury the lead here? With what took
place in that game.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Let's see, you went out there, you had every intentions
of executing a game plan that was a winning game plan,
and you ran into a defense that had boast a
very very good defensive front. Rashaan Gary is a grown
ass man. He's like one of the most underrated dope
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football players on the defensive side of the ball that
you will come up on, and he consistently is one
of those teammates that makes everybody else raise their level,
raise their level of play. And then you look at
Jordan Love, and Jordan Love is what you would call
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a guy a guy that is proving every single day
why he's the guy in green Bay. He's the replacement
of Aaron Rodgers, one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time.
As you mentioned, he got hot last year wasn't a
(22:05):
great overall year, but he got hot at the right
time and he has not turned back. He has not
turned back. And you've seen a team they got. They
have a nice developing rapport with the receivers. There's a
lot of receivers there.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
You pick.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
They say they don't have a one receiver, doesn't matter.
By committee, they're pretty good. Jacob's at the tailback position.
I hate to say it because I'm such an Aaron
Jones fan. He's an upgrades great pickup. He's an up
grade great pickup. And so I think that this team,
this team overall, is one of those teams that man
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like you look at them and you say, Okay, it
was the wrong time, wrong place. You could blame it
on whether if you want to, but it was the
right place if you're a Green Bay fan, because that's
a good team. You lost to a legitimate contender on
the NFC side, and we've got to wait to see
how the seeding works. Out, but assuming Detroit holds on
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to the number one seed, which if you're looking at
the last couple of weeks for the Lions, you know,
Indianapolis they were in control. But you know, you can
argue that the Bears losing was the bigger story of
that game against Detroit and then you know, firing their
head coach the next day afterwards because of it. But
like you look at Detroit and I go, man, I
would give green Bay a shot against Detroit. I'd give
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them a puncher's chance against Detroit in the postseason. You've
already played them twice, Like why not? Like Minnesota, I
give green Bay a better shot than I do Minnesota.
And there's a chance that green Bay finishes behind Minnesota
in the standings and they're gonna have a lower seed.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
I look at it.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I go, yeah, green Bay is a good football team.
And Miami just like if you're a Dolphins fan and
you're looking it, man, am I ever gonna see my
team win a Super Bowl? Here's what you need to
go in your favor, all right. You need either home
field advantage or if somebody does get home field advantage,
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it's somebody from the AFC South. So you're playing either
Jacksonville in the same state, or you got Houston in
a dome or Indianapolis in a dome Tennessee. You know,
I don't know if they're getting a dome, but you know,
we'll figure that out. And then you know, if the
Raiders potentially make a run and you get to go
on the road in the playoff game, like that's a
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possibility the Chargers as well too, although that's like a gazebo,
not really a stadium, so like it's still kind of
cold in there also, or you just need to hope
that Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes don't exist, and if
that happens, the Dolphins could be a super Bowl team,
Like that could really really happen for them at some
point down the road. As it stands right now, I
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just I can't imagine a world where that's a super
Bowl team. I can't.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
They can't even win a playoff game, dude. They're not,
like so not yet. They're not there yet. They have
the talent, they have a lot of talent, and for
what it's worth, they have the talent at the coaching
position as well, I believe, but they you know, there's
the there's the ultimate conversation of how far can you
go with to A to a? You know what was
(25:15):
interesting I saw I think I saw a couple of
players pull up when when they went to hit to
a start asking myself, do you want to be the
player that's.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Like, oh you hit him? Oh like you got to
live with that? Oh yeah, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Like I saw on the sideline the one time, like
the way they like it was like wait, hold on, man,
like no, no, no, no, no, no no no. There's
a couple of times I saw it. I saw him
get contact and it was like, def is that what
are you doing? It didn't look it didn't look like
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they were looking to thump him. It looked like it
was like I'm here and and I'm gonna get to
him and I'm gonna touch him and make sure he's down.
I saw it a couple of times. I mean I
counted at least two or three times I saw where
a guy could have could have hit him and they
didn't hit him.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
I mean every time he takes a hit to his head,
his hands turned into chopsticks.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Bro Like, I don't like. Maybe people are looking at
that like I don't want to hit him. I don't
want to be the one that hits him. And again, listen,
it is what it is.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
But how far can you go before either Tua goes
down and gets hurt and you gotta win without Tua
or we saw that works out.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
You got to figure it out. You gotta figure it out.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Like to me, I think the biggest question that they
got to answer is what do you do moving forward
as it applies to your quarterback position. You gotta figure
it out because that's a that's that is a that's
going to happen. It's going to happen again. No, that's
not me being you know, cynical or trying to put
something one U put evil on on uh to A.
(27:04):
It's just that's a reality. He moves around, he was
moving around in that game yesterday. He gets touched and
he gets hit, and there's gonna be somebody who comes
to hit him that their intentions are bad and he's
going to get hit. So where is that? Where do
you go from there? That's a big question. I think
that's the biggest question they got to answer in Miami.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
But by the way, you strike me as LeVar Arrington,
you strike me as somebody who if you were playing
and you saw to a you would lay up a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Is that true? Or I would never lay off? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (27:38):
No, you a him acing, You're gonna have to go,
You're gonna have to come scoop him up. Active LeVar
is different than the radio LeVar. Active Active LeVar I
had a built in sche mask. My ski mask was
already on. I woke up with a ski mask on.
(27:59):
That was my face.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Levar's got two of like he's p. Twenty two, that
mountain lion that popped across the one on one and.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Got sun straight over, straight over, and and and what.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
Zero listen, zero zero remorse, zero bad feeling, zero regret
zero oh bad, in fact, in fact be celebrating.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Yeah, So the Chiefs and the Raiders are kicking off here,
and you know what a little over twenty minutes from now,
what's up Brett and Nation Baby? And I'm just wondering,
are the Chiefs ever going to look like the Chiefs
this regular season?
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Why do they have to look like the Chiefs that
look We're looking at Andy reid On and Patrick Mahomes
doing their like their State Farm commercials right now. They're
big time they're a big time what I got to
look like something else for it? How many losses they one?
Speaker 4 (29:03):
One?
Speaker 5 (29:03):
Oh no?
Speaker 4 (29:04):
How many wins do? How many wins the Giants have one?
More one more than one.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
It's it is kind of funny because they haven't like
this is probably Patrick Mahomes. I would say Patrick Mahomes
is worst year as a pro. And yet there's nobody
you trust in the postseason more than Patrick Mahomes that
they're just gonna somehow figure this out, Like somehow they're
gonna like whatever they've put together this year because the
defense is playing well and you've seen the defense carrying
(29:34):
him at times. But last year, like Mahomes talked about
it going into the season this year that yeah, we
won a super Bowl last year, but it was it
was difficult, Like there were times Travis Kelcey havn't meltdowns.
Remember on Christmas Day? On Christmas Day last year, the
Raiders beat the Chiefs. Yes, And so here we are,
week thirteen of the regular season and they're still trying
(29:57):
to find their rhythm and it still doesn't look as smooth.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
As smooth as it is.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
I don't I think they have a rhythm. I think
they have a rhythm. I think if you're looking at
it where you want them to be as explosive as
they've been in and like the opening the opening show,
you know when they first popped onto the scene and
they had the Cheetah there and and they started winning
(30:24):
and doing what they were doing. It gets harder and
harder to be a team that dominates at the pro level.
So the fact that they've had to deal with loss,
they've lost some of their best players through the years.
They've they've maintained guys like like uh Jones and and Mahomes.
(30:46):
They've they've maintained core guys. But the bottom line is
they have gone through changes. And just because you go
through changes doesn't mean you can't win.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
It just means that things may change the way that
that they're happening.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
You don't have to kill taking the top off of
a defense and doing the things that we've seen him
historically do. With Kansas City, they brought in DeAndre Hopkins.
He looks like a very nice possession receiver, a nice
addition to what it is that they're doing. Pachecko's been hurt,
they haven't had him. They got Kareem Hunt back I
(31:21):
think that that's one of those backfields. I mean, while
looking at Detroit and saying that that's the best backfield
tandem in the National Football League, let Pachecko get healthy
and him and Kareem Hunt being that same backfield. That
could end up being your best tandem of running backs
in the league. And it could be a small period
of time, doesn't matter. You get them for the playoffs.
(31:42):
You got both for the playoffs. That could be a
dangerous duo in the backfield. You got receivers. Worthy is
getting great reps because guys are out hurt. You know, Rashi, Rashi,
Rice's He's not coming back. So you see guys stepping up.
You're not going to see particularly the team and the smoothness,
(32:04):
as you say that you would have seen in years past,
the explosiveness on offense. People can say what they want
to say about Ericbenemy. You don't have Ericbenemy anymore. That
could be a part of why they're not as explosive.
But nonetheless, they have continued to figure out ways to
play out a higher level than the opponents that they're
playing against. And really, at the end of the day,
(32:26):
what else is there to it is somebody going to
catch up to them, and this year's playoffs maybe so.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
But who is it?
Speaker 5 (32:33):
I'd say the one team that can do it is
probably the two teams, probably Baltimore and the Bills. And
the Bills, I throw those two names out there and
say that those are two teams that can do it. Now,
if we're looking at the NFC side of it, who
can stand up to them? On the NFC side, I
(32:53):
would say right now today who I'm looking at? Definitively,
I think that obviously the Detroit Lions can stand up
to that and can match the physicality of up front
and handle things in the running game and do things
on defense in the passing game. But also I look
out a team like Philly. They're trending in the right direction.
(33:15):
They're trending in the right direction. The NFC North is like,
take your pick.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
The thing about that makes it so so much fun
to talk about is you've got the Bills and you've
got the Ravens, and I would agree with you both
those teams are capable of beating Kansas City. Yet every
time there's a tight game between them, they lose. It's
Kansas City that finds a way to.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
Work it's just every single time.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
And I hate to say it because people always want
to give it to Patrick Mahomes. It's generally it's generally
Spags as defense that's giving them the edge.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
And why is it Spagnolo gotten any love for coaching job?
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
I mean, how long ago was that stint he had
with the Rams in a while? Like they were insane?
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Lewis been quite some time.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Like like he's he's repaired his I also wanted this
because there's been some speculative because they threw this out
Matt Naggy, we talked about him earlier, former Bears coach,
the OC and Kansas City that there's been talk that
he's going to be a guy up for some interviews.
People are going to look at him because you go
back and you look at his run in Chicago, you go, oh,
all things considered now, you know, actually pretty impressive. He
(34:24):
took him to the playoffs twice. If you're Matt Naggy,
why wouldn't you just hang out in Kansas City until
Andy Reid walks away? I mean, if I'm Spagnola, that
could be what he's doing. Yeah, like why why?
Speaker 5 (34:36):
Even Maybe that's the reason why, which is the original
point of what you're saying. If I'm Spagnola, why would
I why would I move? I was with I was
with Andy Reid. People may not realize this. I think
I I think it was the the.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Defensive backs coach something like that.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
He was with Reed and Philly they were They go
way back, they go back together. But by the way,
that's a dope ass coaching staff that that Andy Reid
had in Philadelphia. He had Spags, he had Hardball, he
had what's my guy that just finished coaching the Washington
(35:15):
Commanders last year. Rivera Rivera was their linebackers Coden. They
had Gruden, they had Jim Johnson? Was it Jim Johns?
Was his name passed away? Is the defense coordinator? Is
amazing coordinator? Defensive coordinator? Yes, Spags was with Andy Reid
and Philly bro That that coaching staff was crazy good.
(35:35):
If I'm Spags, I stay put because I know my
defense knows what I want.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
We make big things happen.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
We're part of We are almost, if not the biggest
reason why this team continues to win. And let Patrick
Mahomes and Andy get all of the credit.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
But we'll keep doing what it is that we're doing.
Speaker 5 (35:53):
And then, man, you're gonna be like Spags took over
for Kansas City, like Andy Reid stepping. Oh, it's going
to Spags like I could see that very easily happening. Yeah,
get to work with my homes and then and that
would most likely be the reason why he's not actively
pursuing other jobs elsewhere. You don't have the runway to
(36:13):
go somewhere else and try to you know, kind of
you know, experiment with it. I think it comes down
to the familiarity of everything that's around him and if
he were able to get the keys to the car
in Kansas City. You don't change a thing. You don't
change a thing. You just keep doing what you do.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
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Speaker 4 (36:59):
Dang damn, get up.
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Speaker 5 (38:51):
No, no, this is the herd Line News all right.
Speaker 7 (38:56):
Lead to love, What do we got all right, guys,
we've been talking about it all day because the games
have been on live, the Heisman Race, the Heisman Watch.
If you guys want the numbers here, I got some
live updates from DraftKings.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
We got Travis. Did Travis score another touchdown?
Speaker 5 (39:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (39:10):
He's got two touchdowns to so yeah, yeah, it's over. Meanwhile,
Ash Ashton gent he's at about one eighty five.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Ohow so wrong? Ear baby? Just wrong? Here? Yeap wrong?
Hear for him?
Speaker 7 (39:21):
Right now he's sitting at plus eighteen hundred second place
for the Heisman, while Travis Hunter is at minus eight thousand.
Speaker 5 (39:27):
Huh, but can't be up for the Thorpe Award. Huh.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
Interesting? Okay, what else? What else do you do? I mean,
it makes sense? Does it make sense? Not really?
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Okay, but yeah, this is this is what happens when
you let writers and people get as much power as
they have to be able to dictate somebody getting awarded
and rewarded for certain things.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Oh okay, I mean's the same. Look, why is Mike
Shanahan not in the Hall of Fame? Doesn't make any sense?
Why he doesn't make any sense?
Speaker 3 (39:59):
You know, Robert, there's you know he's he's not going
to the Hall of Fame again either. It's just she
let people vote on these things and occasionally supposed to
voting writers, reporters, people.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
In the media. You know, But what do I know?
I never want anything?
Speaker 7 (40:14):
What else we got lee, Guys, we have another alternative
broadcast announced yesterday during the Dolphins Packers game. At halftime,
they announced that Peacock will be doing the first ever
Madden NFL cast. This will be between the Chiefs and
Texans in week sixteen on a Saturday. It's basically teaming
up with Genius Sports next gen data, combining the real
(40:35):
time data insights with fully branded animation to new immersive
viewing experience. Obviously, we you know the Simpsons game is
coming up in a Monday.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
A week from Monday, a Madden cast, So don't I
don't you play a video game and the game is on.
Speaker 7 (40:49):
Yeah, there's gonna be live stats. They're gonna try to
predict the plays coming up. Chadoh Cho Cinco is gonna
be part of the broadcast. A bunch of different animations
basically overlay on top of it.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
I mean, all right, if only they had, you know,
Mike Tyson spunch out during the Tyson Palfi. That would
have made it more interesting. So if we're gonna do
video games, just go ahead and pair up them all
and make this whole thing work.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
What else, Lee, Well, it is the season of giving.
Speaker 7 (41:17):
Kenny Dillingham, the coach for Arizona State, got a two
hundred thousand dollars bonus for winning his ninth game versus
by U last Saturday. He has dished it out to
all of his staffers. They've received bonuses between five and
ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
Forks up Kenny. You see, it's super cool.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
And look, he's you know, he's appreciative of the holidays,
and he likes, you know, talking to people on the holidays.
He likes you know, responding to their text messages and
reaching out to him.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
And that's nice. Can you and QB giving two? What
do you mean hook me and leap for the holidays? Please?
What do you mean it's your bonus money? I thank you?
You think I got bonus money? Oh yeah? And you
get time and a half today. Hell yeah, I'll get
of that.
Speaker 5 (42:01):
I don't think so Hey man, look I come on, man,
keep everybody happy. Not I you got cats running around
with ski mask on because they got to make a
little bit more money like this, oh man, listen to
some of that bonus money. Listen to the Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
I had the Dolphins plus three and a half yesterday
and uh, that was the last leg of a three
team parlay. I needed that one to hit so I
could hit my parlay. And of course they uh just
craft themselves in the cold. I don't know why I
bet that, But now I've got to go back in
and take more money out of my son's you.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
Know, his second account, no saving.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
I mean, you know from his uh his baptismal party.
You know he's got his first communion money I got
to get into now.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
I just still love it. Man, you're sitting on millions
over there. Man about having no.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Chips, not at all?
Speaker 4 (42:49):
You got chip and dip A.
Speaker 5 (42:51):
Hope all y'all enjoyed your Thanksgiving. And if you didn't
hear from me, is not because I didn't care about you,
just I just don't want to send out all these
messages for Thanksgiving.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
I hope you enjoyed your holiday. Yeah, on everything. It's
a good football weekend.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Rivalry weekend in college football Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
I hope you lose Michigan. I hope you go Bichieesh
Raiders in like five minutes. I hope the Raiders win
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my Happy Black Friday to Rob Parker on social media.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
So the way you say it like you.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Just just us all the way, just so forceful Friday.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Oh my gosh, why do you think showed up.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Everybody out there who doesn't listen to two pros and
a cup of goo uh Lee to lap our producer.
He well, that's his preference.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
So there you go. Lee Roy We call him Leroy
de Lapp Lee Roy Brown.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
You know, by the by the way, if you're a
fan of dual purpose items, Ryan who's on the board,
Ryan who's on the board, has a dual hat.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Yeah, you're always adding on, like what what you got
your hat on for? Man, Like, I know you got
a bold you like to keep it warm? He's said, well,
I keep it on because I go to my second job.
After I finished up doing the boards, I said, well,
what is it? My man pulled that bad boy down?
It was a ski mask, right, I ain't look the
(02:29):
scary type. But if he rolled up on me and
that mask was down, I got I mean, what do
you want?
Speaker 4 (02:35):
What you want? He walked down the hall. I threw
my car keys. You want it's cool? Man? Hey, hey, chill, chill, chill, chill.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Man.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Right, he should walk over to the Blue Dog just
to get something to go and see what they do.
Just see what happens over there. Walk into the whitings
of the world with that thing on. See where they're not.
They're still charging for stuff. They will be riding in
protest all right. Oh, there could have been, Yeah, there
could have been could have been some of that in Chicago.
(03:06):
Uh if Matt Eberflus was not let go by the
Bears following that disaster yesterday. So that was the news
that broke our one of the program here just a
couple hours ago here on Fox Sports Radio, that Mattiberflus
has been fired by the Chicago Bears. First time in
history of the organization they fired a coach in season,
(03:26):
Thomas Brown, the offensive coordinator who just recently became the
offensive coordinator because they fired their other offensive coordinator, Shane Waldron.
But Thomas Brown will be the interim head coach there
for the Chicago Bears. And you know, you just look
at you know, Maddiberflus's track record, and like there's just
like some of the stuff people don't remember or recall,
(03:50):
like just weird things that have happened during his tenure there.
Like you remember that his defensive coordinator, I think his
name was Alan Williams. Like the FBI raided is how yeahang,
whatever happened to that?
Speaker 4 (04:03):
I don't know, never what was that? Right about you?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
The FBI should have I don't know, like maybe there
was some stuff on some computers or something like that.
Just we never really earned from that. It was just all, well,
you know, I'll just call plays no problem here. It's like, okay,
I guess that's what we're doing. And then you know,
he hired Luke Etsy and then fired Luke Etsy, and
then he hired Hane Waldron. He got like nine games
into the season and fired him. It just like this
(04:26):
was the path that it was headed, and it was
going to happen after the season. And so now the
conversation becomes where did the Bears turn to next?
Speaker 5 (04:34):
And so question, Yeah, you know, there was a lot
of conversation. We were talking the last hour about Colorado
and what Dion's been able to build and catching a
tiger by the tail and lightning in the bottle, and
there was a lot of talking, a lot of big
name guys that are in media throwing out there, Dion
going to Dallas, and so much so that Jerry Jones
(04:57):
even got involved with the conversation and discussion, is there
the chance that another team looks at what the opportunity
could represent, especially a crappy team, you know, and looks
at it.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Listen, Albert Breer says, they're.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Going to keep the guys around in New York, Okay,
don't I don't see how that happens. There's already a
job that's going to be open that's probably maybe open
for the Jets in New York. Then you have Chicago
that's a big market. Cold market just just came open.
There's always the possibility that Carolina could come come open.
(05:36):
There are some I mean, the the interesting one is
the Raiders. And if you know you listen to us
and you know our show, you know the current head
coach is one of my closest friends and and somebody
that I played football with in Washington and New New
York and coach Antonio Pierce. But I wonder is that attractive.
(05:59):
I know they're saying, oh, friends with Tom Brady. He
just took over his minority stake, Da da DA could
be what's my guy's name? Come on, Mark Davis, no no,
no quote, coach the coach that played with him. Rabel
could be Vrabel that ends up being the guy because
of the relationship with him and Tom Brady. But think
(06:19):
about it. There's a relationship between Tom Brady and Shador
Sanders and Deon Sanders as well. Both under armour. Guys,
I just wonder, is there somebody else out there that
might be like, oh good, Jerry, mess it up, like
mess it up for yourself. Maybe you get rid of
McCarthy at the end of the year. But you know what,
we're already going to start conversations with Dion and and
(06:39):
see if we can have him in line to possibly
come coach our franchise.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I would think that you would have to, especially if
you're drafting Shador, you would have to have the conversation
with Dion, because look, the Arizona.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Cardinals weren't going to move on.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
From Steve Wilkes if not for the fact that they
ended up up with the first overall pick, and they
knew that they wanted to take Kyler Murray, and they said, well,
let's just bring in Cliff Kingsbury. He's familiar. I want
those guys to work together. Why wouldn't you do that. So,
if you're drafting number one overall, whoever that is, and
you need a coach as well too, if you don't,
(07:17):
at least.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Very better start doing a little bit more than what
he's doing in Washington, because that that man might sail
on him. If you don't get them, get get get
Jane Daniels pushing that ball down field a little bit
more than what he is.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Yeah, it's it's not been the same offense or same
team over the past, uh since.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
That Steeler game.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, I don't know what happened in that Steeler game,
but there was just something that when uh when sideways
there that Steeler.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Game, Pete Prisco tried to blame it on me. I
know that's where you're trying to go with this, trying
to say that I'm like, I'm the cursed on on
the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
I am not the curse they lost.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
They have not won a game, including the game that
I went back to after like eleven year, twelve thirteen
year hiatus from being around there like one of the
eighty greatest Commanders, and you showed back up there and
and they haven't won a game since.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
No, I don't know. I got my w hoodie on today.
It's right, you know that's something that would never happen.
Maybe I have cursed them.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
I do tell people though Joe Gibbs was at the
Dallas game. He was at the last game, so you know,
blame it on him too. Don't don't don't just look
at me and blame it on me. Blame it on
anybody who shows up at the game.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
So to your point, on the coaches and the coaching vacancies.
So obviously, you know, the Raiders is something that could
open up. We know the Bears have opened up. You've
got the Jaguars, You've got like that could be opening up.
Like you've got the Cowboys potentially, who knows, and Philly
and Nick Sirianni.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
I find it hard to believe.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
But you where they're at right now, that's not going
it just you know, we'll see how that plays out.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
But.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Be an epic drop off for Siriani. At this point,
they're trending in the right direction.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Because the question was posed to Albert Brier earlier, like, hey,
so you know Ben Johnson, Mike Vrabel Belichick, like when
it comes to Chicago, the most recent opening, where do
we stand?
Speaker 6 (09:17):
I mean, Ben Johnson, I think if you'd asked him
a year ago, it might have been the job he wanted.
I don't know if that's going to be the case.
The same way. They're in division with them obviously, you know,
But but I but I know he had interest last year,
so I think that's possible. And like I do think
they've got the infrastructure where he could just coach. I'm
a little less certain of Belichick and Vrabel. I think
(09:38):
the job in a vacuum would appeal to Belichick, and
I was able to the question is like, you've got
Kevin Warren as a team president, you got Ryan Poles
as the general manager, Like how did this whole thing
look under? Verybel under Belichick, because unless they're going to
be able to shape the organization a certain way, they
may be hesitant.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
To go there.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
You know, you look at Ben Johnson, who's you know,
ostensibly the first time, first time head coach going to
go there chest to coach, and I think it really
could be a very attractive job with Caleb there and
the roster they have in place and everything else. You know,
for guys like Rabel and Belichick, who may have like
a more I guess are a more global look at
like how they want to set up the entire organization.
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Unless those guys are being to make some some bigger changes,
it's just who's going to be on their coaching staff.
They could wind up talking at the idea.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Of where would you say, of the potential openings, where
do you have the Bears with Caleb Williams at quarterback?
Because it is attractive, but it's dysfunctional. It's dysfunctional, man,
And you know, you asked yourself the question, if you
bring in a guy like I went through being in
a dysfunctional organization, and they brought in a guy like
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a Bill Belichick, and some people may remember the name
Marty Soottenheimer. They brought in Marty. Marty came in and
started to fix and clean up things that he saw
that were issues and problems for the organization, and the
organization didn't take kindly to it, and he was relieved
of his duties after one season.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
There.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Now, I asked myself the question, when I think the
relevance of me making that point is is that how
many teams would Bill Belichick go to? That would be okay?
Because here's the thing. The teams that are going to
be in need of a coach are teams that are struggling,
and some have clearly defined that they are dysfunctional organizations.
If you bring in a guy like Bill Belichick, who's
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going to identify the things that need to be changed.
Are some of those things that need to be changed,
including you as an owner, you as you know, this
person that's a decision maker. So maybe somebody who's a
little bit more obscure and not as recognizable a name,
but nonetheless are part of the dysfunction in the organization.
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And how uncomfortable will will they become if you brought
in a guy like Bill Belichick, a guy like Mike
Vrabel who they do have a very strong presence and
a strong idea of how things are supposed to be done,
will that be a one and done because it's like, Okay,
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well we brought you here because you did.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
What you did in New England or you did what you.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Did in Tennessee, but we don't want you to necessarily
do it where it impacts us and affects us. And
that's a very very difficult proposition to put a coach,
especially a coach that has coached at the level that
Bill Belichick is coached, that does he have the type
of patience to want the paycheck, want the ability and
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the opportunity to coach, but be coaching under those circumstances.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
I just don't see that taking place.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
I can tell you this right now, Get ready for
people to start throwing out Lincoln Riley as a potential,
Like if you want to get the most out of Caleb,
who got the most out of him? And you and
I both know in this town.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
But would it be as an OC or as a
head coach because it's not like he's been blowing the
doors off of people with being a head coach. But
Cliff Kingsbury wasn't as OC left as an OC though, No,
but he took the head coaching down in Arizonas, but
he left his last gig as an OC.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
He's an o C and in Washington.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
As a head coach. He wasn't all that hot and.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
He wasn't that good in Arizona. So yeah, I just look,
I would finally cast it my boy a job, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (13:41):
I mean, Rabel Belichick, like there's gonna be some candidates
Ben Johnson's the first time or.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Some Okay, there you go, Like when you throw out
names like Ben Johnson, I like I like that. I
like that this this NFL is changing. The players are changing,
the personality these are changing, how you lead, those things
are changing. It's all changing.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
I love Rabel though.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
I just think some of these names that we're throwing out.
I think Rabel's name is a name that could stay
in circulation actively where you could say he's a guy
that can relate to the players. This is more of
a player coach relationship driven league more than ever.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
That's where we're at.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
We're not in a disciplinarian and we're not in an
old school coach. We're not in a I can't identify,
which is interesting. I just heard AJ Brown talking about
how they solid with with Sirihanni as a coach. They
support him, they feel good about him. But yet you
had an outside world sitting there saying it's everything, but
that these coaches that connect with their players on a
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personal level, whether it's Andy Reed more so as the
uncle or the dad, the father figure, or if it's
like you're my boy, and like a cow Sanahan or
a Lafleur or a Mike you know, Mike McDaniel, These
are the type of coaches that are getting results. Dan
Campbell he's a player's coach. He played the game. A
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lot of these guys played or have been around it.
So to me, I'm I'm to the point now where
I'm like I don't want to hear these old ass names.
I don't want to hear you talk about Bill Belichick,
talk about somebody who's new, talk about a young talent
that's that's coming, like like we mentioned Ben, talk about
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new guys, new blood, new ways of approaching this, because
that's what it's going to take to find success in
today's new NFL, with today's new NFL players.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
It's they heard here on Fox Sports Radio. LeVar Arrington
Jonas Knox in for Colin by the way, Uh, your guys,
your Kwan Brisker, that's my dude, sent a tweet out
shortly after the news of Matty Verflu's being fired. Jakwan
Bersker is a safety for the Chicago Bears. God don't
(16:05):
make mistakesang, so dang, here we go, Here we go.
It is It is a circus what the Chicago Bears do.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Again? All right?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
So coming up next here though, we are going to
get into what is looking like, I don't know, a
bounce back opportunity, a real chance for people to see
what they've been coming for all season in the NFL.
Are they still the best? We'll find out here shortly
that's next to here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays
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Speaker 4 (16:50):
Yeah, come on, man with the mask on. What up though?
Growing up in the hood years nineteen eighty four? Was
it store? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Yeah, of the trade, same old story and lets you
don't even know me?
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Come on now, shout's out the a hype man. Hell yeah,
I v R MC eight. Baby, you stupid, so stupid.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
It is the Herd here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington,
Jonas Knox in for Colin by the way, coming up
in we'll call it about twenty minutes from now here
from Fox Sports Radio and from Lee to Lab. It's
another edition of the herdline News that'll be yours to
close up shop. We are going to look ahead here
shortly to the game that will be taking place here
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at top of the hour. That's going to be the
Chiefs and the Raiders. We'll get into that for you,
But I did want to get some reaction and a
couple of a couple of thoughts on the Miami Dolphins,
who have now lost seven straight games. When the temperature
drop to below freezing at kickoff. I'm surprised it's not
more than that. I thought it would be more than that,
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But maybe they just haven't played in enough games to
where that's the current situation. But Miami loses to Green
Bay yesterday, and you know it's people are are complaining.
People are talking about kind of how they how they
handled the elements. Jordan Brooks of the Miami Dolphins, he
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had some strong commentary afterwards. He said this, I felt
like when we let the elements control the way that
we played, I thought we were soft.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
E simpilarly that I thought we were sought today.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
I don't know, guys, was too cold, Like I don't
know what it was, but I feel like they elements
played a part in how we played as a group.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
So and that was the results that we got.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Look, we've heard soft before. It's a head coach, that's it.
I thought the draw mayo.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Yeah, I don't have to play in it, so it's
easy to sit here and look at it, just like
it was easy to sit there and look at what
happened in the playoff game against the Chiefs last year,
where Patrick Mahomes had his helmet crack and you had
people get frostbite and you know, lose limbs, you know,
because the elements were so much and the Dolphins that
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are playing that, but it does feel like this is
an issue and to record is horrible and cold weather
Man's horrible. The Dolphins haven't won a playoff game on
the road since the Seahawks were in the AFC, right, Like,
that's how long it's been since they want a playoff
game on the road. So I'm looking at Miami and like,
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I like Tua, I like Mike McDaniel. The offense is fun,
and it just keeps coming down to the same conversation,
which is, yeah, but if they've got to go on
the road and play in the elements, they're screwed. Like
it just feels like that's where we're at with them.
So if you're the Dolphins, understand why that would be.
I mean, Alabama has played in the Elements, not like
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Tua has never played in the Elements, and and the
Tarik played in Kansas City. You know, some of these guys,
I mean they came from you know, the another receiver
from Alabama. You know, you got guys that played at
Penn State, you know. I mean, there's cold weather guys
on the team. What is the reasoning behind them not
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being able to win in the elements? I Like I
said at the top of the show, when you were
watching that game, you saw the Cheetah and other guys,
they went out there, they didn't have on clothes, like
it was cold. They went out there and they represented
themselves like, look, we're gonna go out here and we're
gonna treat this as business as usual. I thought the
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problem that that the Miami Dolphins ran into was that
they played against some better team, like can we not?
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Can we not bury the lead here? With what took
place in that game.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Let's see, you went out there, you had every intentions
of executing a game plan that was a winning game plan,
and you ran into a defense that had boast a
very very good defensive front. Rashaan Gary is a grown
ass man. He's like one of the most underrated dope
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football players on the defensive side of the ball that
you will come up on, and he consistently is one
of those teammates that makes everybody else raise their level,
raise their level of play. And then you look at
Jordan Love, and Jordan Love is what you would call
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a guy a guy that is proving every single day
why he's the guy in green Bay. He's the replacement
of Aaron Rodgers, one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time.
As you mentioned, he got hot last year wasn't a
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great overall year, but he got hot at the right
time and he has not turned back. He has not
turned back. And you've seen a team they got. They
have a nice developing rapport with the receivers. There's a
lot of receivers there.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
You pick.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
They say they don't have a one receiver, doesn't matter.
By committee, they're pretty good. Jacob's at the tailback position.
I hate to say it because I'm such an Aaron
Jones fan. He's an upgrades great pickup. He's an up
grade great pickup. And so I think that this team,
this team overall, is one of those teams that man
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like you look at them and you say, Okay, it
was the wrong time, wrong place. You could blame it
on whether if you want to, but it was the
right place if you're a Green Bay fan, because that's
a good team. You lost to a legitimate contender on
the NFC side, and we've got to wait to see
how the seeding works. Out, but assuming Detroit holds on
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to the number one seed, which if you're looking at
the last couple of weeks for the Lions, you know,
Indianapolis they were in control. But you know, you can
argue that the Bears losing was the bigger story of
that game against Detroit and then you know, firing their
head coach the next day afterwards because of it. But
like you look at Detroit and I go, man, I
would give green Bay a shot against Detroit. I'd give
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them a puncher's chance against Detroit in the postseason. You've
already played them twice, Like why not? Like Minnesota, I
give green Bay a better shot than I do Minnesota.
And there's a chance that green Bay finishes behind Minnesota
in the standings and they're gonna have a lower seed.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
I look at it.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I go, yeah, green Bay is a good football team.
And Miami just like if you're a Dolphins fan and
you're looking it, man, am I ever gonna see my
team win a Super Bowl? Here's what you need to
go in your favor, all right. You need either home
field advantage or if somebody does get home field advantage,
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it's somebody from the AFC South. So you're playing either
Jacksonville in the same state, or you got Houston in
a dome or Indianapolis in a dome Tennessee. You know,
I don't know if they're getting a dome, but you know,
we'll figure that out. And then you know, if the
Raiders potentially make a run and you get to go
on the road in the playoff game, like that's a
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possibility the Chargers as well too, although that's like a gazebo,
not really a stadium, so like it's still kind of
cold in there also, or you just need to hope
that Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes don't exist, and if
that happens, the Dolphins could be a super Bowl team,
Like that could really really happen for them at some
point down the road. As it stands right now, I
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just I can't imagine a world where that's a super
Bowl team. I can't.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
They can't even win a playoff game, dude. They're not,
like so not yet. They're not there yet. They have
the talent, they have a lot of talent, and for
what it's worth, they have the talent at the coaching
position as well, I believe, but they you know, there's
the there's the ultimate conversation of how far can you
go with to A to a? You know what was
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interesting I saw I think I saw a couple of
players pull up when when they went to hit to
a start asking myself, do you want to be the
player that's.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Like, oh you hit him? Oh like you got to
live with that? Oh yeah, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Like I saw on the sideline the one time, like
the way they like it was like wait, hold on, man,
like no, no, no, no, no, no no no. There's
a couple of times I saw it. I saw him
get contact and it was like, def is that what
are you doing? It didn't look it didn't look like
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they were looking to thump him. It looked like it
was like I'm here and and I'm gonna get to
him and I'm gonna touch him and make sure he's down.
I saw it a couple of times. I mean I
counted at least two or three times I saw where
a guy could have could have hit him and they
didn't hit him.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
I mean every time he takes a hit to his head,
his hands turned into chopsticks.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Bro Like, I don't like. Maybe people are looking at
that like I don't want to hit him. I don't
want to be the one that hits him. And again, listen,
it is what it is.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
But how far can you go before either Tua goes
down and gets hurt and you gotta win without Tua
or we saw that works out.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
You got to figure it out. You gotta figure it out.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Like to me, I think the biggest question that they
got to answer is what do you do moving forward
as it applies to your quarterback position. You gotta figure
it out because that's a that's that is a that's
going to happen. It's going to happen again. No, that's
not me being you know, cynical or trying to put
something one U put evil on on uh to A.
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It's just that's a reality. He moves around, he was
moving around in that game yesterday. He gets touched and
he gets hit, and there's gonna be somebody who comes
to hit him that their intentions are bad and he's
going to get hit. So where is that? Where do
you go from there? That's a big question. I think
that's the biggest question they got to answer in Miami.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
But by the way, you strike me as LeVar Arrington,
you strike me as somebody who if you were playing
and you saw to a you would lay up a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Is that true? Or I would never lay off? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (27:38):
No, you a him acing, You're gonna have to go,
You're gonna have to come scoop him up. Active LeVar
is different than the radio LeVar. Active Active LeVar I
had a built in sche mask. My ski mask was
already on. I woke up with a ski mask on.
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That was my face.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Levar's got two of like he's p. Twenty two, that
mountain lion that popped across the one on one and.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Got sun straight over, straight over, and and and what.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
Zero listen, zero zero remorse, zero bad feeling, zero regret
zero oh bad, in fact, in fact be celebrating.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Yeah, So the Chiefs and the Raiders are kicking off here,
and you know what a little over twenty minutes from now,
what's up Brett and Nation Baby? And I'm just wondering,
are the Chiefs ever going to look like the Chiefs
this regular season?
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Why do they have to look like the Chiefs that
look We're looking at Andy reid On and Patrick Mahomes
doing their like their State Farm commercials right now. They're
big time they're a big time what I got to
look like something else for it? How many losses they one?
Speaker 4 (29:03):
One?
Speaker 5 (29:03):
Oh no?
Speaker 4 (29:04):
How many wins do? How many wins the Giants have one?
More one more than one.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
It's it is kind of funny because they haven't like
this is probably Patrick Mahomes. I would say Patrick Mahomes
is worst year as a pro. And yet there's nobody
you trust in the postseason more than Patrick Mahomes that
they're just gonna somehow figure this out, Like somehow they're
gonna like whatever they've put together this year because the
defense is playing well and you've seen the defense carrying
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him at times. But last year, like Mahomes talked about
it going into the season this year that yeah, we
won a super Bowl last year, but it was it
was difficult, Like there were times Travis Kelcey havn't meltdowns.
Remember on Christmas Day? On Christmas Day last year, the
Raiders beat the Chiefs. Yes, And so here we are,
week thirteen of the regular season and they're still trying
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to find their rhythm and it still doesn't look as smooth.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
As smooth as it is.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
I don't I think they have a rhythm. I think
they have a rhythm. I think if you're looking at
it where you want them to be as explosive as
they've been in and like the opening the opening show,
you know when they first popped onto the scene and
they had the Cheetah there and and they started winning
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and doing what they were doing. It gets harder and
harder to be a team that dominates at the pro level.
So the fact that they've had to deal with loss,
they've lost some of their best players through the years.
They've they've maintained guys like like uh Jones and and Mahomes.
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They've they've maintained core guys. But the bottom line is
they have gone through changes. And just because you go
through changes doesn't mean you can't win.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
It just means that things may change the way that
that they're happening.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
You don't have to kill taking the top off of
a defense and doing the things that we've seen him
historically do. With Kansas City, they brought in DeAndre Hopkins.
He looks like a very nice possession receiver, a nice
addition to what it is that they're doing. Pachecko's been hurt,
they haven't had him. They got Kareem Hunt back I
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think that that's one of those backfields. I mean, while
looking at Detroit and saying that that's the best backfield
tandem in the National Football League, let Pachecko get healthy
and him and Kareem Hunt being that same backfield. That
could end up being your best tandem of running backs
in the league. And it could be a small period
of time, doesn't matter. You get them for the playoffs.
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You got both for the playoffs. That could be a
dangerous duo in the backfield. You got receivers. Worthy is
getting great reps because guys are out hurt. You know, Rashi, Rashi,
Rice's He's not coming back. So you see guys stepping up.
You're not going to see particularly the team and the smoothness,
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as you say that you would have seen in years past,
the explosiveness on offense. People can say what they want
to say about Ericbenemy. You don't have Ericbenemy anymore. That
could be a part of why they're not as explosive.
But nonetheless, they have continued to figure out ways to
play out a higher level than the opponents that they're
playing against. And really, at the end of the day,
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what else is there to it is somebody going to
catch up to them, and this year's playoffs maybe so.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
But who is it?
Speaker 5 (32:33):
I'd say the one team that can do it is
probably the two teams, probably Baltimore and the Bills. And
the Bills, I throw those two names out there and
say that those are two teams that can do it. Now,
if we're looking at the NFC side of it, who
can stand up to them? On the NFC side, I
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would say right now today who I'm looking at? Definitively,
I think that obviously the Detroit Lions can stand up
to that and can match the physicality of up front
and handle things in the running game and do things
on defense in the passing game. But also I look
out a team like Philly. They're trending in the right direction.
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They're trending in the right direction. The NFC North is like,
take your pick.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
The thing about that makes it so so much fun
to talk about is you've got the Bills and you've
got the Ravens, and I would agree with you both
those teams are capable of beating Kansas City. Yet every
time there's a tight game between them, they lose. It's
Kansas City that finds a way to.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
Work it's just every single time.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
And I hate to say it because people always want
to give it to Patrick Mahomes. It's generally it's generally
Spags as defense that's giving them the edge.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
And why is it Spagnolo gotten any love for coaching job?
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
I mean, how long ago was that stint he had
with the Rams in a while? Like they were insane?
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Lewis been quite some time.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Like like he's he's repaired his I also wanted this
because there's been some speculative because they threw this out
Matt Naggy, we talked about him earlier, former Bears coach,
the OC and Kansas City that there's been talk that
he's going to be a guy up for some interviews.
People are going to look at him because you go
back and you look at his run in Chicago, you go, oh,
all things considered now, you know, actually pretty impressive. He
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took him to the playoffs twice. If you're Matt Naggy,
why wouldn't you just hang out in Kansas City until
Andy Reid walks away? I mean, if I'm Spagnola, that
could be what he's doing. Yeah, like why why?
Speaker 5 (34:36):
Even Maybe that's the reason why, which is the original
point of what you're saying. If I'm Spagnola, why would
I why would I move? I was with I was
with Andy Reid. People may not realize this. I think
I I think it was the the.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Defensive backs coach something like that.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
He was with Reed and Philly they were They go
way back, they go back together. But by the way,
that's a dope ass coaching staff that that Andy Reid
had in Philadelphia. He had Spags, he had Hardball, he
had what's my guy that just finished coaching the Washington
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Commanders last year. Rivera Rivera was their linebackers Coden. They
had Gruden, they had Jim Johnson? Was it Jim Johns?
Was his name passed away? Is the defense coordinator? Is
amazing coordinator? Defensive coordinator? Yes, Spags was with Andy Reid
and Philly bro That that coaching staff was crazy good.
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If I'm Spags, I stay put because I know my
defense knows what I want.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
We make big things happen.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
We're part of We are almost, if not the biggest
reason why this team continues to win. And let Patrick
Mahomes and Andy get all of the credit.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
But we'll keep doing what it is that we're doing.
Speaker 5 (35:53):
And then, man, you're gonna be like Spags took over
for Kansas City, like Andy Reid stepping. Oh, it's going
to Spags like I could see that very easily happening. Yeah,
get to work with my homes and then and that
would most likely be the reason why he's not actively
pursuing other jobs elsewhere. You don't have the runway to
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go somewhere else and try to you know, kind of
you know, experiment with it. I think it comes down
to the familiarity of everything that's around him and if
he were able to get the keys to the car
in Kansas City. You don't change a thing. You don't
change a thing. You just keep doing what you do.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
It's The Herd here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington,
Jonas Knox in for Colin. Coming up next here, we
are going to close up shop with another edition of
the Herdline News, and we've got an update on some
numbers we threw at you earlier in the show. You
can go ahead and wrap things up. You can present
it now. We'll explain what that is. It's a football conversation,
(36:50):
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Speaker 2 (36:53):
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Speaker 4 (36:59):
Dang damn, get up.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
It's The Herd. Fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington Jonas knocks
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Speaker 4 (37:31):
Oh yeah, because you got.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
Penn State Bamy, go watch this Penn State game. Nice
out tonight, nice and warm eighteen degrees. It's gonna be very,
very cold.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
But if you like anything you've heard, you can listen
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Speaker 5 (37:49):
But you can get me on Instagram. By the way,
I'd like to get my followers up. If it's like
one hundred, two hundred two thousand of you want to
follow me, I'm King of the Mammals on I G. Yeah,
at King of the Mammals. Damn right, what's your what's
your handle? You don't care? I G yeah, just Jonas Knocks.
But you use Jonas Knox on the X though. Everybody
(38:09):
comes to you on the X, so make sure you
check them out on the X. Yeah, Jonas well, it's
at the Jonas at the Jonas or someone say the
the depending.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
On who you as.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
Dam by the way that I know that sounds kind
of toolish, but well so I have the other one,
but I can't get into the account.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
It's a whole mess. So elon, if.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
You you know, like I know, you're busy right now
helping everybody else out. If you could just help me
out with that, I'd appreciate it. We'll get that sorted away.
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Speaker 5 (38:51):
No, no, this is the herd Line News all right.
Speaker 7 (38:56):
Lead to love, What do we got all right, guys,
we've been talking about it all day because the games
have been on live, the Heisman Race, the Heisman Watch.
If you guys want the numbers here, I got some
live updates from DraftKings.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
We got Travis. Did Travis score another touchdown?
Speaker 5 (39:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (39:10):
He's got two touchdowns to so yeah, yeah, it's over. Meanwhile,
Ash Ashton gent he's at about one eighty five.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Ohow so wrong? Ear baby? Just wrong? Here? Yeap wrong?
Hear for him?
Speaker 7 (39:21):
Right now he's sitting at plus eighteen hundred second place
for the Heisman, while Travis Hunter is at minus eight thousand.
Speaker 5 (39:27):
Huh, but can't be up for the Thorpe Award. Huh.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
Interesting? Okay, what else? What else do you do? I mean,
it makes sense? Does it make sense? Not really?
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Okay, but yeah, this is this is what happens when
you let writers and people get as much power as
they have to be able to dictate somebody getting awarded
and rewarded for certain things.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Oh okay, I mean's the same. Look, why is Mike
Shanahan not in the Hall of Fame? Doesn't make any sense?
Why he doesn't make any sense?
Speaker 3 (39:59):
You know, Robert, there's you know he's he's not going
to the Hall of Fame again either. It's just she
let people vote on these things and occasionally supposed to
voting writers, reporters, people.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
In the media. You know, But what do I know?
I never want anything?
Speaker 7 (40:14):
What else we got lee, Guys, we have another alternative
broadcast announced yesterday during the Dolphins Packers game. At halftime,
they announced that Peacock will be doing the first ever
Madden NFL cast. This will be between the Chiefs and
Texans in week sixteen on a Saturday. It's basically teaming
up with Genius Sports next gen data, combining the real
(40:35):
time data insights with fully branded animation to new immersive
viewing experience. Obviously, we you know the Simpsons game is
coming up in a Monday.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
A week from Monday, a Madden cast, So don't I
don't you play a video game and the game is on.
Speaker 7 (40:49):
Yeah, there's gonna be live stats. They're gonna try to
predict the plays coming up. Chadoh Cho Cinco is gonna
be part of the broadcast. A bunch of different animations
basically overlay on top of it.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
I mean, all right, if only they had, you know,
Mike Tyson spunch out during the Tyson Palfi. That would
have made it more interesting. So if we're gonna do
video games, just go ahead and pair up them all
and make this whole thing work.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
What else, Lee, Well, it is the season of giving.
Speaker 7 (41:17):
Kenny Dillingham, the coach for Arizona State, got a two
hundred thousand dollars bonus for winning his ninth game versus
by U last Saturday. He has dished it out to
all of his staffers. They've received bonuses between five and
ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
Forks up Kenny. You see, it's super cool.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
And look, he's you know, he's appreciative of the holidays,
and he likes, you know, talking to people on the holidays.
He likes you know, responding to their text messages and
reaching out to him.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
And that's nice. Can you and QB giving two? What
do you mean hook me and leap for the holidays? Please?
What do you mean it's your bonus money? I thank you?
You think I got bonus money? Oh yeah? And you
get time and a half today. Hell yeah, I'll get
of that.
Speaker 5 (42:01):
I don't think so Hey man, look I come on, man,
keep everybody happy. Not I you got cats running around
with ski mask on because they got to make a
little bit more money like this, oh man, listen to
some of that bonus money. Listen to the Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
I had the Dolphins plus three and a half yesterday
and uh, that was the last leg of a three
team parlay. I needed that one to hit so I
could hit my parlay. And of course they uh just
craft themselves in the cold. I don't know why I
bet that, But now I've got to go back in
and take more money out of my son's you.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
Know, his second account, no saving.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
I mean, you know from his uh his baptismal party.
You know he's got his first communion money I got
to get into now.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
I just still love it. Man, you're sitting on millions
over there. Man about having no.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Chips, not at all?
Speaker 4 (42:49):
You got chip and dip A.
Speaker 5 (42:51):
Hope all y'all enjoyed your Thanksgiving. And if you didn't
hear from me, is not because I didn't care about you,
just I just don't want to send out all these
messages for Thanksgiving.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
I hope you enjoyed your holiday. Yeah, on everything. It's
a good football weekend.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Rivalry weekend in college football Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
I hope you lose Michigan. I hope you go Bichieesh
Raiders in like five minutes. I hope the Raiders win
one more Herd.
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