October 11, 2024 • 36 mins
Fox Sports college football analyst Geoff Schwartz joins the show to preview a massive weekend in college football including #2 Ohio State v #3 Oregon
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
All right. Speaking of team football, Oregon is has to
has to play their game of the last two years.
Jeff Schwartz, a three year starter at Oregon Ducks in
Eugene hosting Ohio State, may have the best player. Chip
Kelly's now a board to fix the run game for
Ohio State. All right, Jeff, host of the Bear Betts
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Podcast with Chris FeliCa. Who's awesome. It's the biggest college
football weekend by a mile. This one really stands out
to me because I think these two teams, along with
Texas maybe Georgia, I'm cooling on them. I think you
can make an argument, but Texas, Oregon Ohio State are
the best teams in the country. As a former Duck,
tell me the way to beat this Ohio State team.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Why do we need our best game? From Dylan Gabriel.
I mean it's pretty simple, right, He's had a B
performances this year. He's made some A throws. We need
to have the an A game from him. Call it.
Ohio State is supremely gifted. They are a very talented
football team. It's all over the field. It's offensive line,
it's defensive line, obviously, wide receiver. You know, their safeties
are incredible. They're both NFL guys. I mean one of
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them started for Dick Saban as a true freshman. Like,
it's a legitimately talented team. So you need your best
performance from your most important player. What's your quarterback. If
Dylan Gabriel gives Oregon that performance, they can physically hang
tough in this game. Like, I haven't felt this comfortable
with the physicality of an Oregon defense against a team
like Ohio State, and maybe forever it comes down to
Dylan Gabriel. And then on the other side, Look, we
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got a pressure Will Howard, Right, If Will Howard gets rattled,
that's a way to win this game. Ohio State has
more ways to win. So Oregan's went way to win
at Dylan Gabriel in a game and a plus game.
Look Jeremy Smith sere here like there's no defense for
that call, Like they're gonna throw the ball up to him,
He's gonna make the play. You have to go answer
if you're doing Gabriel. So I think we'll have to
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have more ways to win. But if Gabriel plays his
best game as a duck, organ can win this game.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
So Ohio State, to me, and Texas looked the part.
I think. I think the they just look different. I
sort of like how Michigan last year just they were
just leaning on everybody, And I feel Ohio State maybe
a better version of Michigan last year. Will Howard the
quarterback road game. Ohio State in these big games hasn't
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necessarily played badly against the Clemson er at Georgia, but
I haven't won a lot of them. And this is
not neutral field or a bull game. This is the
loudest place outside of Gainville, Florida, I've ever stood in
a football stadium. You were there many You saw a
lot of teams disintegrate. Are are are they good enough
Ohio State? Are they good enough at quarterback? Because this
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game could come. It's it has a twenty eight to
twenty seven thirty six thirty three field to it.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Well, we're gonna find out, right, because I think Oregon
will trying to stop the run is they need to
do in this games. If Ohio State runs vault for
two fifty right over the Boiden State, a game happens,
the game's over, right, So I think we all understand that.
And Chip Kelly is gonna want to run the Football's
what he's always wanted to do, and we'll continue to
try to do it here because you know, he get
Will Howard in a third and eight, third and nine,
then you let your pass rushers get after it and
you have a better way to force him in a
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turn He's throwing turnovers. He had some bad turnovers last
week against Iowa. So it will come down to trying
to find ways to make this a Will Howard game,
not a not a running game. Looks again, I'll talking
about this. You mentioned talented teams. I mean Ohio State's
right there. I mean they got maybe not all first
round guys everywhere, but they got guys being drafted from
you know, pick thirty three until pick one hundred, and
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they probably have fifteen of those guys ready right now
to go to the NFL. That doesn't include their young
wide receiver they got, so it's a very talented team.
She has to find a way to get the weakness.
I will say one thing Organ has done well this year,
a special teams certainly helped in a game like this,
special teams could matter.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Right.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
We've had a pump returning, a kickoff return. We've we've
made a fifty yard field goal first time since two
thousand and eight, which only Duck fans care about, but
pretty long times to have been a fifty yard field goal.
So we've done some little things that might help us
in this game on special teams.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
One hundred and twentieth meeting Texas, I think rolls Oklahoma,
Quinn Yours is back. If he's not, Arch Manning's excellent.
I think this is the best team I've seen. It's
one in one a with Ohio State. Anything about Texas.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Were you not really not in this game? Oklahoma can't
score calling right, And I think it's really hard in
college football when you're playing an elite team like Texas
to not have the ability offensively to score an explosive plays, right,
Because Texas defense is really solid. They're good, they're good
at all levels. Maybe you want to say secondary is
still a little bit of a question mark. But if
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you can't exploit the other team in four to seven plays,
you're not going to score. If you're Oklahoma against Texas
on twelve play drives, it's not going to happen. They're
too talented, they're too good. And I think Texas at
what they can do well. They basically lost a bunch
of guys the NFL calling and look exactly the same
or better and all those and all those spots, and
it goes back to what I think is the way
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to build your roster. Sark has taken a lot of
time to build via the high school recruiting in the trenches.
Of course, you can add talent, you know, via via
the portal of it. But we're seeing the the fruition
of that right in year three, four or five. All
these guys are now mature, they're big, they're physical, and
when you can win the trenches, you can win any game.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, all right, I want to talk. You know them well,
you face them many times. I said going into this season,
I thought, you know, one of the things I underrated,
USC will only lose their center and their running back
it's a really young offense and on the offensive line,
it's red shirt freshmen and true sophomores everywhere. Lincoln Riley
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deserves criticism. They don't have three playable tackles in the program.
They have two. One I don't like. So my take
is this was a bit predictable, though I missed on it.
Do they have a shot because Penn State may have
one of the best edge rushers in college football? Do
they have a shot to win? This game is a
three thousand mile flight that matters a lot in college
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So as bad as they looked against Minnesota, do you
like USC's chances this weekend at home?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Well, they always have a chance. I don't know if
I like it calling because in the last twelve games
us he has won five of the last twelve games,
and the theme and all of their loss is the same.
They're play a team that's more physical than them, and
they get beat at the line of scrimmage. And last
year they weren't as bad. In the office, the offense
line is a huge problem. They'd bench guys during games
this season. Yeah, and then the play calling sometimes, like
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you know, this is a traditional thing that happens to
play callers right, where when you sort of things go badly,
what do you do? You revert back to passing the ball? Well,
the raind the ball. Okay, it happened last year too.
Marshall Moyd average like seven and a half yards of carry,
but it got twelve a game. And so we're situation
where we're sort of not trusting the offense, the offensive line,
camp block, we're not scoring points. They're much better defensively
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like that that can keep them in a game like
this where I think Penn State's offense, we still want
to see a little bit more from them. It's there, right,
the bits and pieces are there, But USC physically in
these games over the last basic calendar year has not
played well and they have not covered these games. So
I sort of have to see it. Call them before
it happens. We talk about sark, you know, building up
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in the trenches. It's year three at USC, but it's
year one for their rebuilding the trenches. Like they're really
far behind and rebuilding the trenches. And it's gonna show
this weekend.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Finally, Dion Sanders, you know, it's different. He gets attention.
I think Kansas State's a real team. I think Kansas
State and Utah watched them both. Those are the best
teams in the Big twelve. I think Colorado's been over
their skis, but it is it's in Colorado. They've got momentum.
You can argue they have the two best players in
the country, Shanor Sanders Travis Hunter. What say you on
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this one? Kansas State's real team. I'm not sure Colorado is,
but they're a real fun story.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Well, they're off their best win, right that the UCF
game was a legitimate win. That that that that's the
best win that they've had. I think to your point, Colorado,
as mean, Kansas State is just better across the board,
and Colorado's improved a lot like this is not really
an anti Colorado, and then Cantas State's better across the board. Yeah,
but the issue that you always have in any of these
games is what happens if shadur throws for four hundred yards.
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That's always the problem, like you know, and so it's
hard to bet against Colorado for that reason. I think
Kansas State is better. I think that the problems that
we saw Colorado having this Nebraska Kansas State can do
the same things to them. But but Kansas quarterback Arie
Drodson cannot pass the football. So if they get behind
this game or turn to track me, I like Colorado
in this game. Right, so both teams off of buy,
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I think Kansas State is better. The fear of bet
against Colorado is Sanders and Hunter the two best players
on every team. I mean every game, every time they play,
and they can always come back in a game and
make plays. Look they should have lost the Baylor, they didn't.
They won. Like those are things that Colorado does the
other teams can't do because they don't have that quarterback.
So I think the number two is off. I took
Kansas State minus three and a half. I think they're
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better than them, Yeah, by more than that, especially on
the road. But one surprising with Colorado.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
One by the way, I want to throw this out
I said this week. Mahomes is only six to two.
Aaron Rodgers is six one and a half. I've never
even thought about their height. Cam Ward's listed at six
to two. I think he looks small. Shadure Sanders is
six to two. I never think about his height. I
would take Shadure Sanders as the number one quarterback in
college despite some you know, some ego stuff. Are you
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a Shanduer Sanders fan?
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Yeah, so I've said this before. I actually think if
you put him on Texas or Georgia or Bama, he's
the number one pick, no questions asked. I think he's
that good of a player like he is. His footwork's good,
he knows where we go with the ball. He's super tough,
and he's getting beat up back there.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Oh yeah, this is a little bit better.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Like I just think if you put him, his offense
is stagnant. They just line up in a formation. They
stand there and staff the ball, which he might like
to do best. Not really the best offensive design. We know,
motions and shifts and whatnot. Like imagine if you play
with Sark, I think we'd say, no doubt. Number one
quarterback cam WoT makes two any mistakes. Sure doesn't throw
the ball cross his body like the interception that Cam
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wore through the end of the first AFGANS.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Cal should would never do that.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
So the cam Moore decision making process, which has gotten
Betef from Washington State, still has that in him. Sure
doesn't do things like that. So I think I'm played elsewhere.
We looked at him, even in higher regard than we
do in Colorado with issues he has on his offensive line.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Jeff Schwartz, eight years former Duck. By the way, Oregon
had the number one rushing offense in the country when
Jeff Schwartz was there. Yes, so here's the weekend. I
actually like Iowa, Texas, Penn State, Arizona, Oregon, LSU pass
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Kansas State.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I've bet on Iowa, I bet on Penn State, I
bet on Kansas State. So far, all right, those are
my and I think Texas covers. I think Texas rolls.
I just can't see Oklahoma. They can't score. Man, how
do you win a game we can't score or I
cover game, I should say we can't score.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Good job, what a crush it? Thank you, thanks buddy,
appreciate it. You bet he's got a little duck, got
a little duck thing there on there there. I see, Hey,
come on, let's go. He's a proud duck. Yeah, that's
gonna be something else that environment. This is a really
good weekend, even at Colorado game at night. If it
was at Kansas State, it wouldn't be as good. But
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it's at Colorado, so it's going to be saucy and sassy.
Those kids up there, they love a good party on
a Saturday up in the Boulder. Saucy and sassy. Well,
you know, up there, cannabis is legal.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
I think it's legal down here as well.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I know, but that up and Boulder, it gets a
little sideways.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Yeah, are they skiing in Boulder yet? Is it snowing?
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
A little snow in about four weeks? Five weeks?
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Oh? Thanks, I like my Halloween snowless.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
By the way, you live in a community in America
that loves its Halloween. He's talking about saucy and sassy.
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Speaker 2 (12:47):
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Speaker 5 (12:51):
I know you're excited for number three.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Overall pick Drake May's debut this weekend for the Patriots.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
This game may be appearing in headlines pretty shortly.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
May was taking thirty percent of practice reps before now,
and Patriots OC Alex Van Pelt says, now with the
time to see what May has to offer.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
Peter, I think it's a combination of a couple of things. Really, offensively,
we're not where we want to be, you know, from
a production standpoints, especially in the past game. I think
that that leads to some of that decision, and also
the fact to see his growth and development over those
weeks of practice and what he's put on on the
practice field, I think two of those combined.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
Yeah, excited.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I thought he was the ross of the college quarterbacks.
I thought he had a nice ceiling. I think there's
some justin Herbert here, but not quite as refined coming
out of college, not as polished. Big kid moves well,
nice arm, he's not you know, the accuracy thing. Mechanically.
You get better coaching in the NFL than college by far.
So I think when they clean his stuff up, and
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you know, maybe six seven weeks they've cleaned it up,
he's interesting. Expect He's a big kid that moves well.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Patriots offense cannot get worse. We know that, right. We
got some numbers for you.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Points per game, thirty first, total yards per game, thirty
first passing yards per game, last one hundred nineteen passing
yards a game column in the NFL in twenty twenty.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
That's just not gonna work.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Yards per play thirty first, and offensive tds tied for DFL.
I mean, Colin, this is they're unwatchable. Like if you
panned the league.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
I was gonna take Patriots against the Texans this week.
That's the side. A lot of people like that, Well
it is. It's the wise guys love it. But it's
if they went out and threw a goose egg and
didn't score against the Texans, you wouldn't be shocked. Yeah,
that's in play, So it's like there's a lot of
games is by the way, the easiest wise guy side
is Carolina again in Division rival six points against Atlanta
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and Kirk Cousins. I couldn't play it. The Sharps love
New England and they love Carolina, but I think Week six,
take your quarterbacks. The league's gonna start to supperate.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Yeah, it's you gotta have some intestinal fortitude to rock
with the Patriots this week, but we may talk about
him in the final segment.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Anyways, let's move on to the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Remember last week Jordan Lewis at the end of the game,
he was talking trash to George Pickens and the Steelers. Yeah,
Pickots just grabbed his face, bask and tossed him to
the ground.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Yep, kind of startling.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Well, Lewis has a rep as a big trash talker,
and now he's gonna be defending Lions wide receiver aman
Rosse Brown on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Here's what Brown said about the matchup.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I typically don't get too involved. I might say some
back a little, but for the most Art just fires
me up, gets me going, So I love it. He's
really become a great pro. Fourth round pick. Dad was
a legendary bodybuilder. Yeah, now he was. He was funny
at USC. He was so good in high school and
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so good as a freshman. Then he kind of plateaued.
He's not a speed guy, and he can run, but
he's he's strong, good hands, great routes. But that kid
has the work ethic. He has made himself into a
great pro. He is a worker. You can see his route,
running his hands like he's a craftsman. When you watch him,
that kid is put the time in.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Yeah, it's interesting. This game opened at three and a half.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Yeah, meaning like Market Detroit the side they're the better
team even on the road where three and a half
and it's now three everywhere. So a lot of people
like the Cowboys at home in this spot.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I saw him against Baltimore in the Saints at home.
Home field advantage in Dallas does not exist.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
They're too slow.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
I mean, have you seen the Ezekiel Elliott rushing numbers
he's now it looks like maybe third six if.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
You put him on a fast track. I think to
your point, you take Mica out, it's not very athletic team.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
There's an outside chance he returns. He hasn't been ruled
out yet. We should know more today.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
I just this game.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
I'm befuddled as to who likes the cow Did you
like anything you saw from them against Pittsburgh?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I liked you like a La final drive, not really
going to cede Lamb much. I thought Dak's final drive
was very professional.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Jerry Key Pittsburgh defenders out high Smith and her big
we're both out of the game.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I know I'm Richard.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Final story is uh oh.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Let's go back to the Cleveland Browns, one of the
worst teams in the NFL this season and arguably the
worst quarterback situation in the league. Would you factor in
Watson's contract and how he's played so trading Amari Cooper
has been on the table, apparently for weeks. It could
provide the Browns with salary cap relief. But Cooper he's
being a pro. He says he's focused on being a
Cleveland Brown.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
I'm not thinking about that. I'm not thinking about us
not winning some games. I'm thinking about us winning some games.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
So that doesn't even cross my hie.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
I've always liked him. I wouldn't pay him a fortune,
but i'd pay him. I like him. He's a grown up.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
He's a solid one. But he's a great two. If
he's your number two receiver, that's right, because he's a burner.
He's a matchup problem, and he's got great footwork and hands.
He had a game last year, remember when Joe Flacco
was his quarterback against the Texans, had like two hundred
and ninety five yards some insane numbers.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Jy Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by. Love.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Albert Breer was on earlier. I thought it was unbelievable
that Arthur Smith came out yesterday and said he really
likes Justin Fields because you don't get any drama with
him and he doesn't live through his avatar total shot
at Russell Wilson. Albert Breer, I asked him earlier, were
you surprised by that?
Speaker 7 (18:29):
The momentum in that building has been stick with Justin Fields.
He is loved by the coaching staff. He has made
progress week over a week. You know, what they see
in Justin Fields is a guy that they can really
work with.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
And I do think that.
Speaker 7 (18:42):
They feel like there are some limitations to what they
can do if they put Russell Wilson out there. And
so I think they're viewing this not only on where
the two players are right now, but where they're going
to be in November, where they're going to be in December,
and who's ultimately gonna give him the best chance in January.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah, that whole thing is you know, we actually predict that.
So we had big predictions before the season. I said,
Denver's better than you think, Washington will make the playoffs,
and Russ Justin Fields. Remember my prediction, Ryan, I said,
Justin's gonna end up starting because he's relatable, he doesn't
make any money like most of their young players, and
he's cool. He's a really nice guy. Everybody loved in Chicago,
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even when he was losing games. So those three we've
been right on. Those we've hit on. Jmck what was
your big preseason prediction. I obviously missed on Minnesota being
the best team in the history of football. That when
I missed on.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
I think we liked Vikings right.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
I think we respected the vible. We also both said.
I said I thought the Niners in Dallas had peaked.
I thought Dallas would come down. I thought Niners would
stay the same, but they won't grow.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Yah.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Pittsburgh was my big whiff. Remember I was out here talking.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
To if Well. I don't know if they're a whiff.
I don't know if no Pittsburgh. First of all, Baltimore's great.
Cincinnati's gonna win some games. O.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
Wait, is Pittsburgh losing to the Raiders this weekend?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
It's a field goal game? Oh? Interesting? I don't think
that will. But it's a field goal game.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Well, how about this one? Will Russell Wilson take a
snap on Sunday against the Raiders. He's gonna he's.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Gonna be active for no, No, do you think he will?
I think Russ is gonna be itching to get on
the field. And I wonder if Fields is kind of
looking over his shoulder a little bit. Sounds like the
OC wants Fields right. But does the head coach say, hey, man, we're.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
You have I think Mike kind of lets the ost.
This is not a Kenny Pickett situation. It did nothing worked.
Justin Fields makes plays. He's talented. I mean even Russell
Wilson can be elusive in extend plays. No, I mean
Justin Fields. I said when he was in Chicago he's
too good not to get a second chance. I mean,
Darnold and Baker got a third and a fourth chance.
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Justin's too talented not to get a second chance. I
wouldn't build around him. But he's big, he's got a
good arm, he moves in Obviously, everybody likes him. That matters.
People didn't like Jay Cutler. A lot of people are
cool on Russell Wilson. Justin's one of those guys. It's
like Sam Darnold. You can't find the guy that bad
mouths Sam Darnold. I know Sam, he's a great guy.
I don't know Justin. People say the same thing, like
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Lamar Jackson. Everybody loves Lamar just some guys just they're
guys guys. So he's But you watch Justin fields, there
are moments. I don't think he's very good in the pocket,
but there are moments You're like that dude's a playmaker.
It's like Malik Willis. Now, I think Justin's better than
Malik Willis. But there are times when you watch that
Green Bay game, You're like, not a lot of guys
can get out hit the corner like that, gotta make plays.
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There's only two or three quarterbacks. I just don't want
anything to do with who one's in Tennessee. I'm done well,
you know, I'm not gonna get into the naming people.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
But I didn't pick him on for headlines. But I
think I'm gonna be betting Tennessee this week. Have you
seen the Colts injury report every day? It's like another story.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I know why I won't bet the Colts and I
told my Buddychad Milman last night, I don't know if
Anthony Richardson can get through a game. I'm just off
the Colts. I'm not anti Colts, but I gotta know
your quarterback's gonna I mean, Daniel Jones. For all this off,
Daniel's gonna start that game against Cincinnati and finish it.
And if he had melite neighbors, I think he would
win it. He does and I stay away from it.
(22:07):
But okay, let's just before we do it, let's pick
the upset of the weekend official. Let's make an EFFICI
mine was gonna be. I was gonna take the Giants
over Cincinnati, but mylite neighbors is out, so I have
to readjust I'll.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
Get Chalky with it. Gimme Jayden and Daniels going to Baltimore. Ravens.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
I saw I was gonna save this for later. Fine,
Ravens have given up fifty three points in the fourth quarter.
They give it a forty five in the first half
this season, so give me enough.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
They love to collapse and Jade Daniel.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Keep an eye somebody who's writing about this matchup Terry
McLaurin against this cornerback who just keeps getting roasted for
the Ravens. If you have McLaurin in fantasy, please start him.
I'm just there's a world where McLaurin has like a
Bucks seventy five in this game.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
The Ravens back end is not good. Marlin Humphrey's been
dinged up. Call this Ravens defense. We gotta be honest.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
They're not good.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
I know they shut down Buffalo, but that was fluky.
Bengals went up and down the field, and I think
why and could do the same.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Key give me your upset. So you have Washington beating Baltimore,
I'm gonna take the Jets over Buffalo. If you're I
think it's I'm taking the points already. But if there
was an upset teams at home division rival interim coach
playing like at an absurd passionate level, Aaron rebounds if
I have to, I'm taking the points with the Jets.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
I like that, So then Tuesday will be a fun, positive,
uplifting show. Jets.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
No, no, no embarrassing loss. Yeah, Jets would the play. If
the Jets lose, I'm bringing the anvil. Jaymax picks been hot.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
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Speaker 5 (23:56):
Which you can see on NFL Network Sunday at nine
to thirty am. What are the Fox Sports happened? To
make your picks?
Speaker 4 (24:02):
One of the questions is which player will have the
most receptions column. We got col Kamett, Evan Ingram, Christian
Kirk or Keenan Allen Evan Ingram.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Jalen Johnson will shut down Christian Kirk Evan Ingram for
the Jags. There'll be some scoring in this game. He'll
have six to seven catches.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
I don't hate that.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
How about that headline last week, Christian Mingle, Remember that
that was fun?
Speaker 6 (24:25):
People like that.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
People tend to lay a little before you get to
your picks. So I like the Jets plus the points,
if not winning, covering, I think that's one of the
better bets. Little news on and.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Buffalo Bills just announced that James Cook missed a practice
today and Shakir missed.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Practice as well.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Those are probably two of the best weapons that Josh
Allen has. We saw how limited they were without Shakiir
last week.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
It's a good spot for the Jets. Better win this game.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
My favorite pick of the week is the Packers.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
It's a very random five point favorite at home.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
I always told you there's a lot of three and
three and a halfs. There's a lot of six and
a half, seven, seven and a halfs. There's not many fives.
When I see a five, I take the favorite.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
That's a bat signal, a dead number.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
That's the Bats. It's a dead number of five. Take
the favorite. All right. The former news paperman, he kicked
that career to the curb and upgraded to television, in
digital and gambling. He is flourished in all three. We
call it tomorrow's headlines Today Week six, Texan's Patriots virtually unwatchable.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
What say you listen?
Speaker 4 (25:34):
I have taken jabs at the Patriots all weekday announced
Drake may has starting.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
Lots of stuff going on there.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
However, the headline will be Drake a leg May g
it's standing oh after taking final knee. I think there's
an upset at play here. This has come off to seven,
down to six and a half. As you can see
on the screen, Colin, there are some things working against
the Texans here. First and foremost, Nico Collin's going on
the ir This team is not the same offense. Nico
(26:00):
Collins stretching the field and you have Oh, well, we
got Stefan Diggs.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
It's fine.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Christian Gonzalez has locked down some of the better receivers
in this league so far the season. He was injured
last year, but he's a young cornerback who's excellent. You
put him on digs. It's like, okay, Shroud, what do
you got. We'll see about Joe Mixon. We know how
hit or miss they've been without him. There are some
numbers that are interesting on CJ. Stroud is a big favorite.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
He's not good.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
Two and eight against the spread is a big favorite.
There's a big number to cover. Again.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
I don't think the Patriots are good, let's be clear,
but they will be feisty here and I think there's
a chance they pull out the dub.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Late this next one. I just I know who you're picking.
I want to see the headline. Tomorrow's headlines today, the
now healthy Eagles hosting the Browns on Fox.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Yeah again, you know, people who have been watching the
show all week, you know we've been all over the
Eagles here. Browns are a disaster. The headline will be
oh Si Kwan. You see brown stars spangled by Siriani.
How about that a little just jumping off the page. Listen,
this is the biggest bread of the week. We haven't
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seen a lot of nine and a half this season.
This did touch ten. We're talking about a Cleveland brown team, Colin,
very beat up. Sounds like they're going to be down
two starting offensive linemen. We know Fangio dialed up some
interesting stuff against the Saints a few weeks ago. With
extra time to prepare, I expect the Eagles to come
out here, not only healthy on offense, with Brown, with
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Lane Johnson, with DeVonta Smith, they should be able to
torch a Browns team.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
Colin. I hate saying players are quitting. These are pros
making a lot of money. But I was on Cleveland
last week and after they fell behind, it was just like, ah,
so it's over.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
We don't trust our quarterback to bring us back getting
torch down the field. This is a Philadelphia team that
can be explosive. They've kind of struggled a little bit
at times. I know you don't love Sirianni. There's a
big game.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
We've had some first half they don't start quickly on
a consistent basis, like when they're ugly, they're ugly fast.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Yeah, if you look at the Deshaun Watson stats, there's
no argument he is if you be thirty one or
thirty two, depending on whether or not you put Bryce
Young in there, whether or not he's played enough stats,
it just hasn't been good. Nick Chubb officially ruled out.
We know he's close to returning. I can't make a
case for the Browns. Give me the Eagles off the buy,
winning and.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Covering, all right to me? The game of the weekend
Here on Fox, the oil Leak will begin with the
Dallas Cowboys. Tomorrow's headlines today off a by Lions that
the Cowboys Mike has hit or mess. We don't know
if he'll play, so listen.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
There's some data off of bye that in the lasts
like five years, the bye doesn't matter as much as
it used to.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I think it helps with off sharp offensive coaches.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Yes, Ben Johnson qualifies.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Andy Reid McVeigh helps a little bit Shanahan that it helps.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
The headline for Lions.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Cowboys will be claw abiding citizen, Lions.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
Find Cowboys guilty of fraud.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
By the way, side note, if you haven't seen law
Abiding Citizen.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Yeah, amazing movie. If you like Revenge, it's spectacular, it
looks like you haven't seen it. Oh, I'm on the
Lions here. Don't care that.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
This came off three and a half and people respected
betters have driven this down and are back in the
Cowboys come just a couple numbers. Jared Goff on the
road last sixteen games, thirteen and three against the spread. Oh,
by the way, Dak Prescott in his last ten as
a Dog two and eight. When he has to play
good teams that are supposed to beat him, he doesn't deliver.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
You've said this before. He is a front running quarterback.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
When they're playing a bad team and they go up, Oh,
he looks like Tyson in his prime snowball rolling.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Down a hill. Then you gotta face good teams. And
again I maintained that Pittsburgh loss or the Pittsburgh win,
that Dallas right.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
They didn't play well. Dallas had that game handed to him.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Yeah, and I don't see Detroit doing that again. Coming
Detroit off the by at two weeks to prepare for
a Dallas defense that's kind of a mass unit, cannot
really stop the run. What do the Lions do better
than anyone? Run the football behind that awesome offensive line?
Rag now trending toward playing this week.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
I'm sorry, I like Detroit.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Here, Sorr. Why finally headline today? Bengals at the Giants?
What am I? My blazing five? I was gonna take
the Giants Malik Neighbors out. He is special. They're a
different offense with him. They don't have him. I passed.
What say you?
Speaker 5 (30:12):
What little chicken there?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Backing off your pick?
Speaker 5 (30:16):
Bengal Giants first game? I bet this week.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Absolutely love it, Sunday night football. I don't think it's
gonna be a great game. The headline will be day Bo,
day bo.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
Bengals come and get a win in our home. You
like that?
Speaker 4 (30:30):
I feel like I love the Bengals here. I just
feel like this is a New York Giants team. They
were lucky on the spot last week.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
I missed it.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
You know, we talked a little bit about Seattle after
playing the Lions and some regression Colin this is a
New York Giants team that's been an underdog.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Are you ready for this? Twenty one straight games? What
twenty one straight games as an underdog. They're not a
good football team.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Here, this is even better. Okay, and again I'm saving
some good stuff. Daniel Jones, your favorite cornerback. He's one
in fourteen in primetime games. What are games in primetime
against good teams?
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:04):
He had his last.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
Five primetime games. He's lost. He just doesn't deliver the
when the spotlight is bright on him.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
And I know the Bengals haven't been really good this season.
They're one and four.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Well, their offense has been their offense.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Has been phenomenal, and I anticipate them shredding the Giants.
I will also point out, remember when the Bengals lost
to Washington and the sky was falling London night football.
They went to Carolina one and covered not really a problem. Again,
the sky's falling for Cincy. They collapsed against the Ravens.
Let's just take a deep breath. The New York Giants
are not a good football team. Let's not overreact to
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what we just saw against Seattle. By the way, Seattle
can't stop anybody, Okay, couldn't out the Lions, Giants, Niners.
I think that's a massive overreaction. I think the Bengals
are the side here, Colin, for sure.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
I am actually surprised that you because I think the
Jets feels like anytime a good quarterback plays awful and
talented team plays like, makes a ton of mistakes on
a standalone game, they almost always play well the next week.
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The Jets are also a home dog. So my initial
response to this was Buffalo's the side. But then this
morning I get up and I start looking at the
injury reports, and you don't have the slot receiver James Cook. Now,
so this game, my initial feeling was Buffalo, yeah, because
they've played poorly, But then when you start looking at
the injury report, it's.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
A boy and the Jets matchup pretty good with Buffalo.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Well, no, Josh Allen has struggled against these corners.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
The Jets defense, right, So this is the fandom speaking. Okay,
I picked the Jets in headlines the last two weeks.
They lost both those games. Okay, mentally, I'm fried on
this team. They fire the coach, I don't know what
the hell's gonna happen Monday night. I assume the stadium
is gonna be juiced up. It's Buffalo, it's a rivalry,
its first place, and the Jets are probably the side.
But picking them two weeks in a row and losing,
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it's just tough to go back to the well, you know,
and I don't want to give out. I had two
other games.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
I was gonna go Bucks and I was gonna go Titans.
I can't get involved with the Jets now.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
I just sometimes, you know, you don't have this problem
as an NFL guy because you don't have like you're
not a fan of a team.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
That's why Nick Wright struggles with the Chiefs. He just
he's got the blinders on.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Yeah, but they never lose.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Well in the playoffs, they don't lose, and this season.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
They have lost. Ex Okay, so earlier today, an hour ago,
we did a we had a we play a game.
We don't do this a ton, but we did it.
We do it every you know, once a month, we'll
take a quarterback and we'll just we'll just say, all right,
put him up against each other today, what quarterback would
you like. I'm not talking about the last five years
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or the next five years. Just better than Brock, So
I said, Dak, Jared Goff, Jordan Loves, c J. Stroud,
Jade and Daniels, Bownicks, Trevor Lawrence, Caleb Williams, Kirk Cousins,
Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray are better than Brock. I said,
Sam Darnold's too reckless, Twa can't stay healthy, Jalen Hurts
has become a turnover. Sheen and Aaron I just I
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think he's pretty. I don't think Aaron's a real good
quarterback the last year and a half he's played. You
were bothered. Now you said you went to the audience,
So I don't I get off social. What was the
one the audience did not like?
Speaker 4 (34:14):
Well, the bo Nicks one sent people into having like
convulsions exactly to say bow Knicks after five games and
not five good games, particularly like he has not been outstanding.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
So if I if I said I like Brock better
than bow Nicks, I.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
Think there still would have been outraged.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
I mean, Colin, you're my guy, But can you find
me two quarterback metrics in which Jordan Love is better
than Brock party in their careers or in last year
or in the last two years.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
More athletic.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
That's not a quarterback metric heights come on? Speed? That
does stuff?
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Come on?
Speaker 1 (34:50):
If I said I like this one quarterback, he's more
athletic and a better arm. Can I start with that? Well,
that's that's literally like saying I mean, I mean, there's
not much to it. If I set a pitcher, he's
got a better heater, his change up's great. I got
the better picture. You guys, gotta your guy's gotta splitter
a seven finger fastball?
Speaker 5 (35:12):
Whatever is that aig as seven?
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Whatever? The point being is Jordan Love is a more
athletic with a better whip. Jordan's got an arm.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
What's Kyler Murray better than that?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Better athlete by far, by far, a better athlete, not
even close? Like on one guy is a major league baseball.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
First, she would change the title. Who's a better athlete
than proper?
Speaker 4 (35:37):
I mean Caleb Williams. What has Caleb Williams showed you
through five games? Not potential, just through five games.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Bigger, stronger athlete, power arm and getting really good fast.
See this is where you and I disagree. When you
are asked to carry a business that's different than ay
sit next to the star and just don't say a
cuss word on the air building is hard. The pressure
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on Caleb or Kyler, Murray brock Purty is he's like
a trust fund kid. Hey, just don't get involved with
nft S or meth. I mean, when you're a trust
fund kid, it's just like, don't lose it all. You know,
you can do a little cryptocurrency, but stay away from
doge coin. We'll give you a little bitcoin, but just
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don't don't get hooked on math, and stay away from.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Nft This just hit me listening to you. I guess
we don't have time, but we got we gotta keep
redoing this.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
We don't have time for your nonsense. We're done.
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
All right. Speaking of team football, Oregon is has to
has to play their game of the last two years.
Jeff Schwartz, a three year starter at Oregon Ducks in
Eugene hosting Ohio State, may have the best player. Chip
Kelly's now a board to fix the run game for
Ohio State. All right, Jeff, host of the Bear Betts
(00:46):
Podcast with Chris FeliCa. Who's awesome. It's the biggest college
football weekend by a mile. This one really stands out
to me because I think these two teams, along with
Texas maybe Georgia, I'm cooling on them. I think you
can make an argument, but Texas, Oregon Ohio State are
the best teams in the country. As a former Duck,
tell me the way to beat this Ohio State team.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Why do we need our best game? From Dylan Gabriel.
I mean it's pretty simple, right, He's had a B
performances this year. He's made some A throws. We need
to have the an A game from him. Call it.
Ohio State is supremely gifted. They are a very talented
football team. It's all over the field. It's offensive line,
it's defensive line, obviously, wide receiver. You know, their safeties
are incredible. They're both NFL guys. I mean one of
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them started for Dick Saban as a true freshman. Like,
it's a legitimately talented team. So you need your best
performance from your most important player. What's your quarterback. If
Dylan Gabriel gives Oregon that performance, they can physically hang
tough in this game. Like, I haven't felt this comfortable
with the physicality of an Oregon defense against a team
like Ohio State, and maybe forever it comes down to
Dylan Gabriel. And then on the other side, Look, we
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got a pressure Will Howard, Right, If Will Howard gets rattled,
that's a way to win this game. Ohio State has
more ways to win. So Oregan's went way to win
at Dylan Gabriel in a game and a plus game.
Look Jeremy Smith sere here like there's no defense for
that call, Like they're gonna throw the ball up to him,
He's gonna make the play. You have to go answer
if you're doing Gabriel. So I think we'll have to
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have more ways to win. But if Gabriel plays his
best game as a duck, organ can win this game.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
So Ohio State, to me, and Texas looked the part.
I think. I think the they just look different. I
sort of like how Michigan last year just they were
just leaning on everybody, And I feel Ohio State maybe
a better version of Michigan last year. Will Howard the
quarterback road game. Ohio State in these big games hasn't
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necessarily played badly against the Clemson er at Georgia, but
I haven't won a lot of them. And this is
not neutral field or a bull game. This is the
loudest place outside of Gainville, Florida, I've ever stood in
a football stadium. You were there many You saw a
lot of teams disintegrate. Are are are they good enough
Ohio State? Are they good enough at quarterback? Because this
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game could come. It's it has a twenty eight to
twenty seven thirty six thirty three field to it.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Well, we're gonna find out, right, because I think Oregon
will trying to stop the run is they need to
do in this games. If Ohio State runs vault for
two fifty right over the Boiden State, a game happens,
the game's over, right, So I think we all understand that.
And Chip Kelly is gonna want to run the Football's
what he's always wanted to do, and we'll continue to
try to do it here because you know, he get
Will Howard in a third and eight, third and nine,
then you let your pass rushers get after it and
you have a better way to force him in a
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turn He's throwing turnovers. He had some bad turnovers last
week against Iowa. So it will come down to trying
to find ways to make this a Will Howard game,
not a not a running game. Looks again, I'll talking
about this. You mentioned talented teams. I mean Ohio State's
right there. I mean they got maybe not all first
round guys everywhere, but they got guys being drafted from
you know, pick thirty three until pick one hundred, and
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they probably have fifteen of those guys ready right now
to go to the NFL. That doesn't include their young
wide receiver they got, so it's a very talented team.
She has to find a way to get the weakness.
I will say one thing Organ has done well this year,
a special teams certainly helped in a game like this,
special teams could matter.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Right.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
We've had a pump returning, a kickoff return. We've we've
made a fifty yard field goal first time since two
thousand and eight, which only Duck fans care about, but
pretty long times to have been a fifty yard field goal.
So we've done some little things that might help us
in this game on special teams.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
One hundred and twentieth meeting Texas, I think rolls Oklahoma,
Quinn Yours is back. If he's not, Arch Manning's excellent.
I think this is the best team I've seen. It's
one in one a with Ohio State. Anything about Texas.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Were you not really not in this game? Oklahoma can't
score calling right, And I think it's really hard in
college football when you're playing an elite team like Texas
to not have the ability offensively to score an explosive plays, right,
Because Texas defense is really solid. They're good, they're good
at all levels. Maybe you want to say secondary is
still a little bit of a question mark. But if
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you can't exploit the other team in four to seven plays,
you're not going to score. If you're Oklahoma against Texas
on twelve play drives, it's not going to happen. They're
too talented, they're too good. And I think Texas at
what they can do well. They basically lost a bunch
of guys the NFL calling and look exactly the same
or better and all those and all those spots, and
it goes back to what I think is the way
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to build your roster. Sark has taken a lot of
time to build via the high school recruiting in the trenches.
Of course, you can add talent, you know, via via
the portal of it. But we're seeing the the fruition
of that right in year three, four or five. All
these guys are now mature, they're big, they're physical, and
when you can win the trenches, you can win any game.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, all right, I want to talk. You know them well,
you face them many times. I said going into this season,
I thought, you know, one of the things I underrated,
USC will only lose their center and their running back
it's a really young offense and on the offensive line,
it's red shirt freshmen and true sophomores everywhere. Lincoln Riley
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deserves criticism. They don't have three playable tackles in the program.
They have two. One I don't like. So my take
is this was a bit predictable, though I missed on it.
Do they have a shot because Penn State may have
one of the best edge rushers in college football? Do
they have a shot to win? This game is a
three thousand mile flight that matters a lot in college
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So as bad as they looked against Minnesota, do you
like USC's chances this weekend at home?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Well, they always have a chance. I don't know if
I like it calling because in the last twelve games
us he has won five of the last twelve games,
and the theme and all of their loss is the same.
They're play a team that's more physical than them, and
they get beat at the line of scrimmage. And last
year they weren't as bad. In the office, the offense
line is a huge problem. They'd bench guys during games
this season. Yeah, and then the play calling sometimes, like
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you know, this is a traditional thing that happens to
play callers right, where when you sort of things go badly,
what do you do? You revert back to passing the ball? Well,
the raind the ball. Okay, it happened last year too.
Marshall Moyd average like seven and a half yards of carry,
but it got twelve a game. And so we're situation
where we're sort of not trusting the offense, the offensive line,
camp block, we're not scoring points. They're much better defensively
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like that that can keep them in a game like
this where I think Penn State's offense, we still want
to see a little bit more from them. It's there, right,
the bits and pieces are there, But USC physically in
these games over the last basic calendar year has not
played well and they have not covered these games. So
I sort of have to see it. Call them before
it happens. We talk about sark, you know, building up
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in the trenches. It's year three at USC, but it's
year one for their rebuilding the trenches. Like they're really
far behind and rebuilding the trenches. And it's gonna show
this weekend.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Finally, Dion Sanders, you know, it's different. He gets attention.
I think Kansas State's a real team. I think Kansas
State and Utah watched them both. Those are the best
teams in the Big twelve. I think Colorado's been over
their skis, but it is it's in Colorado. They've got momentum.
You can argue they have the two best players in
the country, Shanor Sanders Travis Hunter. What say you on
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this one? Kansas State's real team. I'm not sure Colorado is,
but they're a real fun story.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Well, they're off their best win, right that the UCF
game was a legitimate win. That that that that's the
best win that they've had. I think to your point, Colorado,
as mean, Kansas State is just better across the board,
and Colorado's improved a lot like this is not really
an anti Colorado, and then Cantas State's better across the board. Yeah,
but the issue that you always have in any of these
games is what happens if shadur throws for four hundred yards.
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That's always the problem, like you know, and so it's
hard to bet against Colorado for that reason. I think
Kansas State is better. I think that the problems that
we saw Colorado having this Nebraska Kansas State can do
the same things to them. But but Kansas quarterback Arie
Drodson cannot pass the football. So if they get behind
this game or turn to track me, I like Colorado
in this game. Right, so both teams off of buy,
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I think Kansas State is better. The fear of bet
against Colorado is Sanders and Hunter the two best players
on every team. I mean every game, every time they play,
and they can always come back in a game and
make plays. Look they should have lost the Baylor, they didn't.
They won. Like those are things that Colorado does the
other teams can't do because they don't have that quarterback.
So I think the number two is off. I took
Kansas State minus three and a half. I think they're
(09:07):
better than them, Yeah, by more than that, especially on
the road. But one surprising with Colorado.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
One by the way, I want to throw this out
I said this week. Mahomes is only six to two.
Aaron Rodgers is six one and a half. I've never
even thought about their height. Cam Ward's listed at six
to two. I think he looks small. Shadure Sanders is
six to two. I never think about his height. I
would take Shadure Sanders as the number one quarterback in
college despite some you know, some ego stuff. Are you
(09:37):
a Shanduer Sanders fan?
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Yeah, so I've said this before. I actually think if
you put him on Texas or Georgia or Bama, he's
the number one pick, no questions asked. I think he's
that good of a player like he is. His footwork's good,
he knows where we go with the ball. He's super tough,
and he's getting beat up back there.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Oh yeah, this is a little bit better.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Like I just think if you put him, his offense
is stagnant. They just line up in a formation. They
stand there and staff the ball, which he might like
to do best. Not really the best offensive design. We know,
motions and shifts and whatnot. Like imagine if you play
with Sark, I think we'd say, no doubt. Number one
quarterback cam WoT makes two any mistakes. Sure doesn't throw
the ball cross his body like the interception that Cam
(10:18):
wore through the end of the first AFGANS.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Cal should would never do that.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
So the cam Moore decision making process, which has gotten
Betef from Washington State, still has that in him. Sure
doesn't do things like that. So I think I'm played elsewhere.
We looked at him, even in higher regard than we
do in Colorado with issues he has on his offensive line.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Jeff Schwartz, eight years former Duck. By the way, Oregon
had the number one rushing offense in the country when
Jeff Schwartz was there. Yes, so here's the weekend. I
actually like Iowa, Texas, Penn State, Arizona, Oregon, LSU pass
(10:59):
Kansas State.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I've bet on Iowa, I bet on Penn State, I
bet on Kansas State. So far, all right, those are
my and I think Texas covers. I think Texas rolls.
I just can't see Oklahoma. They can't score. Man, how
do you win a game we can't score or I
cover game, I should say we can't score.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Good job, what a crush it? Thank you, thanks buddy,
appreciate it. You bet he's got a little duck, got
a little duck thing there on there there. I see, Hey,
come on, let's go. He's a proud duck. Yeah, that's
gonna be something else that environment. This is a really
good weekend, even at Colorado game at night. If it
was at Kansas State, it wouldn't be as good. But
(11:37):
it's at Colorado, so it's going to be saucy and sassy.
Those kids up there, they love a good party on
a Saturday up in the Boulder. Saucy and sassy. Well,
you know, up there, cannabis is legal.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
I think it's legal down here as well.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I know, but that up and Boulder, it gets a
little sideways.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Yeah, are they skiing in Boulder yet? Is it snowing?
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
A little snow in about four weeks? Five weeks?
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Oh? Thanks, I like my Halloween snowless.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
By the way, you live in a community in America
that loves its Halloween. He's talking about saucy and sassy.
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Speaker 2 (12:47):
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Speaker 5 (12:51):
I know you're excited for number three.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Overall pick Drake May's debut this weekend for the Patriots.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
This game may be appearing in headlines pretty shortly.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
May was taking thirty percent of practice reps before now,
and Patriots OC Alex Van Pelt says, now with the
time to see what May has to offer.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
Peter, I think it's a combination of a couple of things. Really, offensively,
we're not where we want to be, you know, from
a production standpoints, especially in the past game. I think
that that leads to some of that decision, and also
the fact to see his growth and development over those
weeks of practice and what he's put on on the
practice field, I think two of those combined.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
Yeah, excited.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I thought he was the ross of the college quarterbacks.
I thought he had a nice ceiling. I think there's
some justin Herbert here, but not quite as refined coming
out of college, not as polished. Big kid moves well,
nice arm, he's not you know, the accuracy thing. Mechanically.
You get better coaching in the NFL than college by far.
So I think when they clean his stuff up, and
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you know, maybe six seven weeks they've cleaned it up,
he's interesting. Expect He's a big kid that moves well.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Patriots offense cannot get worse. We know that, right. We
got some numbers for you.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Points per game, thirty first, total yards per game, thirty
first passing yards per game, last one hundred nineteen passing
yards a game column in the NFL in twenty twenty.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
That's just not gonna work.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Yards per play thirty first, and offensive tds tied for DFL.
I mean, Colin, this is they're unwatchable. Like if you
panned the league.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
I was gonna take Patriots against the Texans this week.
That's the side. A lot of people like that, Well
it is. It's the wise guys love it. But it's
if they went out and threw a goose egg and
didn't score against the Texans, you wouldn't be shocked. Yeah,
that's in play, So it's like there's a lot of
games is by the way, the easiest wise guy side
is Carolina again in Division rival six points against Atlanta
(14:51):
and Kirk Cousins. I couldn't play it. The Sharps love
New England and they love Carolina, but I think Week six,
take your quarterbacks. The league's gonna start to supperate.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Yeah, it's you gotta have some intestinal fortitude to rock
with the Patriots this week, but we may talk about
him in the final segment.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Anyways, let's move on to the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Remember last week Jordan Lewis at the end of the game,
he was talking trash to George Pickens and the Steelers. Yeah,
Pickots just grabbed his face, bask and tossed him to
the ground.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Yep, kind of startling.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Well, Lewis has a rep as a big trash talker,
and now he's gonna be defending Lions wide receiver aman
Rosse Brown on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Here's what Brown said about the matchup.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I typically don't get too involved. I might say some
back a little, but for the most Art just fires
me up, gets me going, So I love it. He's
really become a great pro. Fourth round pick. Dad was
a legendary bodybuilder. Yeah, now he was. He was funny
at USC. He was so good in high school and
(15:52):
so good as a freshman. Then he kind of plateaued.
He's not a speed guy, and he can run, but
he's he's strong, good hands, great routes. But that kid
has the work ethic. He has made himself into a
great pro. He is a worker. You can see his route,
running his hands like he's a craftsman. When you watch him,
that kid is put the time in.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Yeah, it's interesting. This game opened at three and a half.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Yeah, meaning like Market Detroit the side they're the better
team even on the road where three and a half
and it's now three everywhere. So a lot of people
like the Cowboys at home in this spot.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I saw him against Baltimore in the Saints at home.
Home field advantage in Dallas does not exist.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
They're too slow.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
I mean, have you seen the Ezekiel Elliott rushing numbers
he's now it looks like maybe third six if.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
You put him on a fast track. I think to
your point, you take Mica out, it's not very athletic team.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
There's an outside chance he returns. He hasn't been ruled
out yet. We should know more today.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
I just this game.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
I'm befuddled as to who likes the cow Did you
like anything you saw from them against Pittsburgh?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I liked you like a La final drive, not really
going to cede Lamb much. I thought Dak's final drive
was very professional.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Jerry Key Pittsburgh defenders out high Smith and her big
we're both out of the game.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I know I'm Richard.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Final story is uh oh.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Let's go back to the Cleveland Browns, one of the
worst teams in the NFL this season and arguably the
worst quarterback situation in the league. Would you factor in
Watson's contract and how he's played so trading Amari Cooper
has been on the table, apparently for weeks. It could
provide the Browns with salary cap relief. But Cooper he's
being a pro. He says he's focused on being a
Cleveland Brown.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
I'm not thinking about that. I'm not thinking about us
not winning some games. I'm thinking about us winning some games.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
So that doesn't even cross my hie.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
I've always liked him. I wouldn't pay him a fortune,
but i'd pay him. I like him. He's a grown up.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
He's a solid one. But he's a great two. If
he's your number two receiver, that's right, because he's a burner.
He's a matchup problem, and he's got great footwork and hands.
He had a game last year, remember when Joe Flacco
was his quarterback against the Texans, had like two hundred
and ninety five yards some insane numbers.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Jy Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by. Love.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Albert Breer was on earlier. I thought it was unbelievable
that Arthur Smith came out yesterday and said he really
likes Justin Fields because you don't get any drama with
him and he doesn't live through his avatar total shot
at Russell Wilson. Albert Breer, I asked him earlier, were
you surprised by that?
Speaker 7 (18:29):
The momentum in that building has been stick with Justin Fields.
He is loved by the coaching staff. He has made
progress week over a week. You know, what they see
in Justin Fields is a guy that they can really
work with.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
And I do think that.
Speaker 7 (18:42):
They feel like there are some limitations to what they
can do if they put Russell Wilson out there. And
so I think they're viewing this not only on where
the two players are right now, but where they're going
to be in November, where they're going to be in December,
and who's ultimately gonna give him the best chance in January.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah, that whole thing is you know, we actually predict that.
So we had big predictions before the season. I said,
Denver's better than you think, Washington will make the playoffs,
and Russ Justin Fields. Remember my prediction, Ryan, I said,
Justin's gonna end up starting because he's relatable, he doesn't
make any money like most of their young players, and
he's cool. He's a really nice guy. Everybody loved in Chicago,
(19:19):
even when he was losing games. So those three we've
been right on. Those we've hit on. Jmck what was
your big preseason prediction. I obviously missed on Minnesota being
the best team in the history of football. That when
I missed on.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
I think we liked Vikings right.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
I think we respected the vible. We also both said.
I said I thought the Niners in Dallas had peaked.
I thought Dallas would come down. I thought Niners would
stay the same, but they won't grow.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Yah.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Pittsburgh was my big whiff. Remember I was out here talking.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
To if Well. I don't know if they're a whiff.
I don't know if no Pittsburgh. First of all, Baltimore's great.
Cincinnati's gonna win some games. O.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
Wait, is Pittsburgh losing to the Raiders this weekend?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
It's a field goal game? Oh? Interesting? I don't think
that will. But it's a field goal game.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Well, how about this one? Will Russell Wilson take a
snap on Sunday against the Raiders. He's gonna he's.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Gonna be active for no, No, do you think he will?
I think Russ is gonna be itching to get on
the field. And I wonder if Fields is kind of
looking over his shoulder a little bit. Sounds like the
OC wants Fields right. But does the head coach say, hey, man, we're.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
You have I think Mike kind of lets the ost.
This is not a Kenny Pickett situation. It did nothing worked.
Justin Fields makes plays. He's talented. I mean even Russell
Wilson can be elusive in extend plays. No, I mean
Justin Fields. I said when he was in Chicago he's
too good not to get a second chance. I mean,
Darnold and Baker got a third and a fourth chance.
(20:45):
Justin's too talented not to get a second chance. I
wouldn't build around him. But he's big, he's got a
good arm, he moves in Obviously, everybody likes him. That matters.
People didn't like Jay Cutler. A lot of people are
cool on Russell Wilson. Justin's one of those guys. It's
like Sam Darnold. You can't find the guy that bad
mouths Sam Darnold. I know Sam, he's a great guy.
I don't know Justin. People say the same thing, like
(21:07):
Lamar Jackson. Everybody loves Lamar just some guys just they're
guys guys. So he's But you watch Justin fields, there
are moments. I don't think he's very good in the pocket,
but there are moments You're like that dude's a playmaker.
It's like Malik Willis. Now, I think Justin's better than
Malik Willis. But there are times when you watch that
Green Bay game, You're like, not a lot of guys
can get out hit the corner like that, gotta make plays.
(21:29):
There's only two or three quarterbacks. I just don't want
anything to do with who one's in Tennessee. I'm done well,
you know, I'm not gonna get into the naming people.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
But I didn't pick him on for headlines. But I
think I'm gonna be betting Tennessee this week. Have you
seen the Colts injury report every day? It's like another story.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I know why I won't bet the Colts and I
told my Buddychad Milman last night, I don't know if
Anthony Richardson can get through a game. I'm just off
the Colts. I'm not anti Colts, but I gotta know
your quarterback's gonna I mean, Daniel Jones. For all this off,
Daniel's gonna start that game against Cincinnati and finish it.
And if he had melite neighbors, I think he would
win it. He does and I stay away from it.
(22:07):
But okay, let's just before we do it, let's pick
the upset of the weekend official. Let's make an EFFICI
mine was gonna be. I was gonna take the Giants
over Cincinnati, but mylite neighbors is out, so I have
to readjust I'll.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
Get Chalky with it. Gimme Jayden and Daniels going to Baltimore. Ravens.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
I saw I was gonna save this for later. Fine,
Ravens have given up fifty three points in the fourth quarter.
They give it a forty five in the first half
this season, so give me enough.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
They love to collapse and Jade Daniel.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Keep an eye somebody who's writing about this matchup Terry
McLaurin against this cornerback who just keeps getting roasted for
the Ravens. If you have McLaurin in fantasy, please start him.
I'm just there's a world where McLaurin has like a
Bucks seventy five in this game.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
The Ravens back end is not good. Marlin Humphrey's been
dinged up. Call this Ravens defense. We gotta be honest.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
They're not good.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
I know they shut down Buffalo, but that was fluky.
Bengals went up and down the field, and I think
why and could do the same.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Key give me your upset. So you have Washington beating Baltimore,
I'm gonna take the Jets over Buffalo. If you're I
think it's I'm taking the points already. But if there
was an upset teams at home division rival interim coach
playing like at an absurd passionate level, Aaron rebounds if
I have to, I'm taking the points with the Jets.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
I like that, So then Tuesday will be a fun, positive,
uplifting show. Jets.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
No, no, no embarrassing loss. Yeah, Jets would the play. If
the Jets lose, I'm bringing the anvil. Jaymax picks been hot.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
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Speaker 5 (23:56):
Which you can see on NFL Network Sunday at nine
to thirty am. What are the Fox Sports happened? To
make your picks?
Speaker 4 (24:02):
One of the questions is which player will have the
most receptions column. We got col Kamett, Evan Ingram, Christian
Kirk or Keenan Allen Evan Ingram.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Jalen Johnson will shut down Christian Kirk Evan Ingram for
the Jags. There'll be some scoring in this game. He'll
have six to seven catches.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
I don't hate that.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
How about that headline last week, Christian Mingle, Remember that
that was fun?
Speaker 6 (24:25):
People like that.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
People tend to lay a little before you get to
your picks. So I like the Jets plus the points,
if not winning, covering, I think that's one of the
better bets. Little news on and.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Buffalo Bills just announced that James Cook missed a practice
today and Shakir missed.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Practice as well.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Those are probably two of the best weapons that Josh
Allen has. We saw how limited they were without Shakiir
last week.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
It's a good spot for the Jets. Better win this game.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
My favorite pick of the week is the Packers.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
It's a very random five point favorite at home.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
I always told you there's a lot of three and
three and a halfs. There's a lot of six and
a half, seven, seven and a halfs. There's not many fives.
When I see a five, I take the favorite.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
That's a bat signal, a dead number.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
That's the Bats. It's a dead number of five. Take
the favorite. All right. The former news paperman, he kicked
that career to the curb and upgraded to television, in
digital and gambling. He is flourished in all three. We
call it tomorrow's headlines Today Week six, Texan's Patriots virtually unwatchable.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
What say you listen?
Speaker 4 (25:34):
I have taken jabs at the Patriots all weekday announced
Drake may has starting.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
Lots of stuff going on there.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
However, the headline will be Drake a leg May g
it's standing oh after taking final knee. I think there's
an upset at play here. This has come off to seven,
down to six and a half. As you can see
on the screen, Colin, there are some things working against
the Texans here. First and foremost, Nico Collin's going on
the ir This team is not the same offense. Nico
(26:00):
Collins stretching the field and you have Oh, well, we
got Stefan Diggs.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
It's fine.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Christian Gonzalez has locked down some of the better receivers
in this league so far the season. He was injured
last year, but he's a young cornerback who's excellent. You
put him on digs. It's like, okay, Shroud, what do
you got. We'll see about Joe Mixon. We know how
hit or miss they've been without him. There are some
numbers that are interesting on CJ. Stroud is a big favorite.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
He's not good.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
Two and eight against the spread is a big favorite.
There's a big number to cover. Again.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
I don't think the Patriots are good, let's be clear,
but they will be feisty here and I think there's
a chance they pull out the dub.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Late this next one. I just I know who you're picking.
I want to see the headline. Tomorrow's headlines today, the
now healthy Eagles hosting the Browns on Fox.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Yeah again, you know, people who have been watching the
show all week, you know we've been all over the
Eagles here. Browns are a disaster. The headline will be
oh Si Kwan. You see brown stars spangled by Siriani.
How about that a little just jumping off the page. Listen,
this is the biggest bread of the week. We haven't
(27:04):
seen a lot of nine and a half this season.
This did touch ten. We're talking about a Cleveland brown team, Colin,
very beat up. Sounds like they're going to be down
two starting offensive linemen. We know Fangio dialed up some
interesting stuff against the Saints a few weeks ago. With
extra time to prepare, I expect the Eagles to come
out here, not only healthy on offense, with Brown, with
(27:24):
Lane Johnson, with DeVonta Smith, they should be able to
torch a Browns team.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
Colin. I hate saying players are quitting. These are pros
making a lot of money. But I was on Cleveland
last week and after they fell behind, it was just like, ah,
so it's over.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
We don't trust our quarterback to bring us back getting
torch down the field. This is a Philadelphia team that
can be explosive. They've kind of struggled a little bit
at times. I know you don't love Sirianni. There's a
big game.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
We've had some first half they don't start quickly on
a consistent basis, like when they're ugly, they're ugly fast.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Yeah, if you look at the Deshaun Watson stats, there's
no argument he is if you be thirty one or
thirty two, depending on whether or not you put Bryce
Young in there, whether or not he's played enough stats,
it just hasn't been good. Nick Chubb officially ruled out.
We know he's close to returning. I can't make a
case for the Browns. Give me the Eagles off the buy,
winning and.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Covering, all right to me? The game of the weekend
Here on Fox, the oil Leak will begin with the
Dallas Cowboys. Tomorrow's headlines today off a by Lions that
the Cowboys Mike has hit or mess. We don't know
if he'll play, so listen.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
There's some data off of bye that in the lasts
like five years, the bye doesn't matter as much as
it used to.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I think it helps with off sharp offensive coaches.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Yes, Ben Johnson qualifies.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Andy Reid McVeigh helps a little bit Shanahan that it helps.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
The headline for Lions.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Cowboys will be claw abiding citizen, Lions.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
Find Cowboys guilty of fraud.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
By the way, side note, if you haven't seen law
Abiding Citizen.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Yeah, amazing movie. If you like Revenge, it's spectacular, it
looks like you haven't seen it. Oh, I'm on the
Lions here. Don't care that.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
This came off three and a half and people respected
betters have driven this down and are back in the
Cowboys come just a couple numbers. Jared Goff on the
road last sixteen games, thirteen and three against the spread. Oh,
by the way, Dak Prescott in his last ten as
a Dog two and eight. When he has to play
good teams that are supposed to beat him, he doesn't deliver.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
You've said this before. He is a front running quarterback.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
When they're playing a bad team and they go up, Oh,
he looks like Tyson in his prime snowball rolling.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Down a hill. Then you gotta face good teams. And
again I maintained that Pittsburgh loss or the Pittsburgh win,
that Dallas right.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
They didn't play well. Dallas had that game handed to him.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Yeah, and I don't see Detroit doing that again. Coming
Detroit off the by at two weeks to prepare for
a Dallas defense that's kind of a mass unit, cannot
really stop the run. What do the Lions do better
than anyone? Run the football behind that awesome offensive line?
Rag now trending toward playing this week.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
I'm sorry, I like Detroit.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Here, Sorr. Why finally headline today? Bengals at the Giants?
What am I? My blazing five? I was gonna take
the Giants Malik Neighbors out. He is special. They're a
different offense with him. They don't have him. I passed.
What say you?
Speaker 5 (30:12):
What little chicken there?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Backing off your pick?
Speaker 5 (30:16):
Bengal Giants first game? I bet this week.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Absolutely love it, Sunday night football. I don't think it's
gonna be a great game. The headline will be day Bo,
day bo.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
Bengals come and get a win in our home. You
like that?
Speaker 4 (30:30):
I feel like I love the Bengals here. I just
feel like this is a New York Giants team. They
were lucky on the spot last week.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
I missed it.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
You know, we talked a little bit about Seattle after
playing the Lions and some regression Colin this is a
New York Giants team that's been an underdog.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Are you ready for this? Twenty one straight games? What
twenty one straight games as an underdog. They're not a
good football team.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Here, this is even better. Okay, and again I'm saving
some good stuff. Daniel Jones, your favorite cornerback. He's one
in fourteen in primetime games. What are games in primetime
against good teams?
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:04):
He had his last.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
Five primetime games. He's lost. He just doesn't deliver the
when the spotlight is bright on him.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
And I know the Bengals haven't been really good this season.
They're one and four.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Well, their offense has been their offense.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Has been phenomenal, and I anticipate them shredding the Giants.
I will also point out, remember when the Bengals lost
to Washington and the sky was falling London night football.
They went to Carolina one and covered not really a problem. Again,
the sky's falling for Cincy. They collapsed against the Ravens.
Let's just take a deep breath. The New York Giants
are not a good football team. Let's not overreact to
(31:37):
what we just saw against Seattle. By the way, Seattle
can't stop anybody, Okay, couldn't out the Lions, Giants, Niners.
I think that's a massive overreaction. I think the Bengals
are the side here, Colin, for sure.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
I am actually surprised that you because I think the
Jets feels like anytime a good quarterback plays awful and
talented team plays like, makes a ton of mistakes on
a standalone game, they almost always play well the next week.
(32:08):
The Jets are also a home dog. So my initial
response to this was Buffalo's the side. But then this
morning I get up and I start looking at the
injury reports, and you don't have the slot receiver James Cook. Now,
so this game, my initial feeling was Buffalo, yeah, because
they've played poorly, But then when you start looking at
the injury report, it's.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
A boy and the Jets matchup pretty good with Buffalo.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Well, no, Josh Allen has struggled against these corners.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
The Jets defense, right, So this is the fandom speaking. Okay,
I picked the Jets in headlines the last two weeks.
They lost both those games. Okay, mentally, I'm fried on
this team. They fire the coach, I don't know what
the hell's gonna happen Monday night. I assume the stadium
is gonna be juiced up. It's Buffalo, it's a rivalry,
its first place, and the Jets are probably the side.
But picking them two weeks in a row and losing,
(32:55):
it's just tough to go back to the well, you know,
and I don't want to give out. I had two
other games.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
I was gonna go Bucks and I was gonna go Titans.
I can't get involved with the Jets now.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
I just sometimes, you know, you don't have this problem
as an NFL guy because you don't have like you're
not a fan of a team.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
That's why Nick Wright struggles with the Chiefs. He just
he's got the blinders on.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Yeah, but they never lose.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Well in the playoffs, they don't lose, and this season.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
They have lost. Ex Okay, so earlier today, an hour ago,
we did a we had a we play a game.
We don't do this a ton, but we did it.
We do it every you know, once a month, we'll
take a quarterback and we'll just we'll just say, all right,
put him up against each other today, what quarterback would
you like. I'm not talking about the last five years
(33:38):
or the next five years. Just better than Brock, So
I said, Dak, Jared Goff, Jordan Loves, c J. Stroud,
Jade and Daniels, Bownicks, Trevor Lawrence, Caleb Williams, Kirk Cousins,
Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray are better than Brock. I said,
Sam Darnold's too reckless, Twa can't stay healthy, Jalen Hurts
has become a turnover. Sheen and Aaron I just I
(34:02):
think he's pretty. I don't think Aaron's a real good
quarterback the last year and a half he's played. You
were bothered. Now you said you went to the audience,
So I don't I get off social. What was the
one the audience did not like?
Speaker 4 (34:14):
Well, the bo Nicks one sent people into having like
convulsions exactly to say bow Knicks after five games and
not five good games, particularly like he has not been outstanding.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
So if I if I said I like Brock better
than bow Nicks, I.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
Think there still would have been outraged.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
I mean, Colin, you're my guy, But can you find
me two quarterback metrics in which Jordan Love is better
than Brock party in their careers or in last year
or in the last two years.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
More athletic.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
That's not a quarterback metric heights come on? Speed? That
does stuff?
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Come on?
Speaker 1 (34:50):
If I said I like this one quarterback, he's more
athletic and a better arm. Can I start with that? Well,
that's that's literally like saying I mean, I mean, there's
not much to it. If I set a pitcher, he's
got a better heater, his change up's great. I got
the better picture. You guys, gotta your guy's gotta splitter
a seven finger fastball?
Speaker 5 (35:12):
Whatever is that aig as seven?
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Whatever? The point being is Jordan Love is a more
athletic with a better whip. Jordan's got an arm.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
What's Kyler Murray better than that?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Better athlete by far, by far, a better athlete, not
even close? Like on one guy is a major league baseball.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
First, she would change the title. Who's a better athlete
than proper?
Speaker 4 (35:37):
I mean Caleb Williams. What has Caleb Williams showed you
through five games? Not potential, just through five games.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Bigger, stronger athlete, power arm and getting really good fast.
See this is where you and I disagree. When you
are asked to carry a business that's different than ay
sit next to the star and just don't say a
cuss word on the air building is hard. The pressure
(36:04):
on Caleb or Kyler, Murray brock Purty is he's like
a trust fund kid. Hey, just don't get involved with
nft S or meth. I mean, when you're a trust
fund kid, it's just like, don't lose it all. You know,
you can do a little cryptocurrency, but stay away from
doge coin. We'll give you a little bitcoin, but just
(36:24):
don't don't get hooked on math, and stay away from.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Nft This just hit me listening to you. I guess
we don't have time, but we got we gotta keep
redoing this.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
We don't have time for your nonsense. We're done.
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