November 1, 2024 • 34 mins
Colin gives the Jets credit for their win over the Texans on Thursday Night Football and why their playoff hopes are dead yet. He gives his best bets for week 9 of the NFL season. Plus, 14-year NFL veteran QB Chase Daniel joins the show in studio to talk about Jared Goff needing more respect for leading the NFL's top offense.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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listening to Fox Sports Radio. Oh, it is Friday. There
are things to talk about. Hope you had a great Halloween.
Live in Los Angeles. It's The Herd. Wherever you may
be and however you may be watching or listening, maybe streaming.
Thanks for making us part of your day. In one
hour from now, the Blazing five Picks, I think it
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could be my best picks of the year, first or
second best picks. Last time I said that we had
like a four and one week. We had a very
good week three and two, four and one, So I
feel very good about the picks. I'm gonna do something
I almost never do, take a huge favorite. I almost
never do that. I take big favorites off the board,
sucker bets this week. Feel very strongly Jaymack. You know
it's funny. Last night I texted Jmack because he's out there,
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you know, and it's a outfit and getting candy for
the kids. And he was very negative about the Jets,
and I said, hey, be positive, you're going into a
nice Friday. And what do you know, in that fourth quarter,
it all clicked for the Jets.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
All right, I'm not going to get too excited. I
was listened as doubtful for the show today after a
long Halloween night on the injury report.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
But sure they won. Go ahead, gass them up.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Now they snap that five game losing skid twenty one
to thirteen. Win. Listen, all right, positive calumn. Because they
played on Thursday, they get extra prep time for their
next game. That's a big advantage with the veteran quarterback.
So let's say they can beat Arizona, they get the
Seahawks at home, and they get the Colts at home,
they get the Rams at home, they play the kruddy
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Jaguars if they end up kind of turning it around.
One play is the cat The catch by Garrett Wilson. Remarkable.
That was a third and nineteen in the fourth quarter,
and they just were stop and start offensively all game. Backup, kicker,
you didn't trust them. They trailed ten to seven, that
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catch and the Texans inability to protect CJ. Stroud, who
was sacked eight times, infused real life and energy into
Aaron Rodgers the sideline, the crowd before that catch. It
kind of felt like they just couldn't keep any momentum
going second half. I thought Aaron Rodgers played well, but
that was the play a third and nineteen fourth quarter trailing.
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Can't trust your kicker, he's a backup. I mean, even
on that drive before that third and nineteen great catch,
they failed on a fourth and one. The Texans had
a penalty and it bailed them out. So two and
seven was staring this team right in the face of
fans had bags on. They were I'd read this morning.
Apparently I couldn't hear this. They were chanting sell the
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team at Metlive Stadium. So nice win. Now, nothing changes
about the core of the Jets, right. We don't love
the owner, it's an interim coach. They're on their second
play caller. I mean, they had a touchdown nullified because
some rookie wide receiver dropped the ball to one yard line.
They had a couple really really bad special teams penalties.
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I mean, nothing is really really changed right at their core.
They beat themselves. They make silly mistakes. But that catch
and Aaron Rodgers in the second half, where he had
a passer rating of one forty seven point seven, it
feels like something and there is a route. There is
a route to the playoffs. You get to play the
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Dolphins twice, okay again. You get a lot of teams
like the Colts. You beat the Texans last night, the Jaguars,
teams you could be battling for a wild card spot
in the AFC. You're not as good as Buffalo, Baltimore,
Kansas City. They're gonna win their divisions. But if you
beat the Texans, they may be battling you for a
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while wild card team. You could beat the Colts at home,
the Jaguars. You have a chance here, all these teams
that are going to end up in that eight and
nine win territory. You got one done. You already lost
to Denver, so you got to win the rest of them.
But even when the Jets win and Aaron place pretty
well in the second half, you don't trust them because
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they are a guidebook on how not to run a franchise.
Despite the occasional brilliant catch or pass, I mean, this
is their first win since September nineteenth. Think about that,
the Baseball Playoffs hadn't started yet. That's the last time
they won. I think Kamala Harris had just been nominated
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a few weeks earlier, right like, so it had been
a long time, and it was a home game on
a short week against the team that's ravaged by injuries,
the Texan. But you know, what's the day after Halloween.
So enjoy your snickers and enjoy your Jets win. At
least at least we know snickers satisfies three and six
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doesn't feel very satisfying. But I will say this, Aaron
had a lot of energy. There are some offensive weapons.
You're playing a lot of teams and just beat one
that you'll probably be battling for an AFC wildcard spot.
Here's Aaron after on Garrett Wilson's remarkable catch that could
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be the catalyst for the season.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
I knew it was third and extra long.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
I was looking at the weak side safety and I
was like, if he drops down at all, I'm just
gonna say screw it.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I'm gonna throw it up to g I feel like
I put it in a decent spot.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
But.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
Yeah, I didn't do a whole lot when it comes
down to it, I just got a lob one up there.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
He made an unbelievable catch.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Way to go Jets. It was a great catch, had
an obj feel, one leg down and the shin. I
really believe there are moments in life for teams, for people,
for businesses when you can look back and go, man,
it just gave us. And if you watch the Jets
sideline after that play, it was like, there's a little
juice here. We'll see what transpire is going forward. Okay.
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So I said this yesterday and I believe it one
of the more interesting games of the weekend. Chicago Bears
Arizona Cardinals. I think it's really interesting because the Bear schedule,
they get a couple of winnable games next then they
go into a brutal, brutal schlog against all the teams
in their division. So Caleb Williams, the quarterback for the Bears,
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young talented kid his dad, was messing around on the
x or Twitter last night. He has since deleted it,
but at one point he looked like he took a
shot at the Bear's coaching staff by complimenting the commander's
coaching staff, hashtag accountability, hashtag real coach, So dads do
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the strangest things. He has since deleted it, and I
was just thinking about, you know, don't we kind of
all know how the Bear season's gonna end.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
We do.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
They're gonna win about seven or eight games. They're gonna
finish in fourth place in a great division, and then
Matt Iberflus is not going to feel like the right coach.
That's everything I predicted about seven weeks ago before the
season started. Fourth place, Eberflus in trouble, and they're gonna
win about seven or eight games. It's turning out that
way week to week. The NFL is kind of unpredictable, right.
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It feels crazy, but it's really not in a macro level.
In fact, my shocking playoff team, the Commanders, even the
surprises aren't that great of a revelation. I said, I
think Commander is going to surprise people. They're the surprise
team in the league. They're not that surprising. There are
three things, though, and this is why I feel strongly
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about my preseason prediction on the Bears and why it's
coming true. There are kind of three things that work
against the Bears. Number one is the commander's staff is
making their rookie quarterback Jaden Daniels look so seamless, so excellent,
so amazing. You know you're being compared to that, And
with Caleb Williams, it feels like it's like one step forward,
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one step back. Okay, let's refine the reads, let's simplify
the offense. It looks very bumpy and very very turbulent.
And in Washington it just looks like great coaching, great
kid going in one direction. So that's working against you.
The second thing that works against you pretty predictable Packers,
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great quarterback, great offensive coach, Vikings, good quarterback, great offensive coach,
Lions excellent quarterback. I mean, Dan Campbell's been an excellent
coach so far. Offense, offense, offense, offense, Bears, what do
you know, defensive coach, and the offense is all over
the map. So again you're going to be compared to
the commanders. You're going to be compared to the quarterbacks
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and the coaching in your division. And the third thing
working against eber Flus and why I think my prediction was,
you know, pretty easy on the Bears is their history.
Everybody in Chicago is like, do we really trust the
Bears to elevate an excellent, young, talented quarterback. They've never
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had a four thousand yard in one season a four
thousand yard quarterback, so there's no confidence the organization can
get it done. And I would argue strongly they already
screwed it up by interviewing Cliff Kingsbury, who was Caleb's
coach in college at USC and they let him walk
out of the building without a contract he wanted. Reportedly,
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I was told he wanted to work with Caleb Williams
and they passed on him. And look at what a
great job Kingsbury's doing with Jaden Daniels, who's never worked
with before. But it's crushing it. So Caleb's dad inflaming things,
and don't kid yourself. People are talking about that, you know,
parents knowing their kids are unhappy. Caleb's dad inflaming things
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is only about number thirty eight on the list of
things I worry about, you know, and all things stated.
It should be also duly noted that Bear's players this
week went out and criticized publicly the Bears staff. So
I don't think I don't think the dead going hashtag accountability,
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hashtag real coach is something I love. But I do
think that Matt Eberflus will get one year to work
with Caleb Williams. And last week that second half meltdown,
you did not play to his favor. Danny Parkins on
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our morning show here Breakfast Ball, former Chicago radio host,
talks about Eberflus.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
The thing with Matt Eberflus that drives me insane is
don't you know what on my shoes and tell me
it's raining? Like he was, like, I don't think we
needed a time out before the hail Mary because everyone
was in position. Tyreek Stevenson back was to the ball,
like everyone wasn't in position. Matt Eberflus kind of chose
the route of denial instead of accountability. And that's the thing, honest,
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more than the failed execution that bothered me most.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
All Right, j Mack, here's the good news though. Blazing five,
your herdline er, your picks later in the third hour,
your jets one offenses healthy, He's got playmakers extra time
to prepare for Arizona. How about a deep breath and
a little soliloquy on the positive vibes off your sugar
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high last night.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah, how about the thirty two yards passing for Aaron
Rodgers in the first half?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
It was ugly thirty two yards.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Now second half was a different story. Touchdown, touchdown, touchdown. Yeah,
the young kid dropped the ball before walking out. Oh wow,
I mean my phone lit up. I mean I'm friends
with a bunch of Jets fans. Listen, we gotta win.
I'm not gonna look at the schedules, say we have
the Mini by No and then Arizona.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I'm not gonna get excited, but there are little things
Colts at home, you know, teams at home that you're
gonna be battling. You have all these opportunities. You get
the Dolphins twice, the Jaguars. There are opportunities. There is
a route here, sure.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Okay, yeah, is this like the Charlie Brown thing where
you pull the football out. I get all excited.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Okay, I'm gonna kick at this time and like you're
gonna yank it out from underneath because they lose to
the Colts and Joe.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Flacco or something like.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
All right, come on, man, don't get me excited.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Forty five minutes from now, I think this is my
second strongest Blazing five of the week. Now, who knows, right?
I mean, you don't know. We did tell you yesterday, Ryan,
we have it archive. We take the show yesterday. We
guaranteed the Jets win yesterday. We get it was a
little dicey start of the fourth, but we guaranteed the
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Jets win. We were kind of close on how it
would look the score. So I feel good about our
blazing five and forty five minutes. Be sure to catch
live editions of The Herd Weekdays and Noone Eastern a
em Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one and the
iHeartRadio app. Here we go. It's a Friday, it's hour two.
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I'm making dinner reservations. I all fired up Friday nights
off little pasta tonight. Let's have some fun.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Are you getting after it in a neighborhood I'm aware of?
Speaker 6 (13:08):
Or no?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Because I might be in that area tonight.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
No, I don't the bulge, Okay, got last night you
were out there.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
I was living it up.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
You know, LA loved a good block party on Halloween.
It's Halloween's really fun out of here in La. You know,
it's nice.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
You know what I was doing last night cigar. Nope,
total clarity.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
No celebrating the Jets in the streets.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Let's go Getrol Wilson in the streets. Yeah, Hey, I
was standing on business. Okay, I like these picks. I
usually like my picks, but sometimes I really like my picks.
That doesn't mean anything, but uh, last couple of weeks,
I think I've been better. We had the Jets last
night on DraftKings. So here we go. Let's blaze it up.
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Up It's Collins blazing fuck Cowboys had I like Dallas
plus three. I think they're gonna win straight out. Listen.
It's a must win. And they've actually been a better
road team than a home team this year. The Falcons
six of their eight wins have come by one possession.
Their defense six sacks. Dak Prescott's gonna sit in the
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pocket with time to throw. The Falcons defense this year
on third down terrible quarterback hit sacks terrible. A comfortable
Dack said this a couple of weeks ago, and Seattle
beat him a comfortable quarterback against Atlanta. I'm gonna take
the Cowboys here twenty eight to twenty seven in a
fun game. Commanders and giants. You know, I love the
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number four. I'm gonna take Commanders minus four. They outplayed
the Bears. It should never have been that close. They
lead the NFL in points per drive. That's a key
gambling stat. Their defense, I don't think they have great personnel,
but dan Quinn's got them playing like a top ten unit. Giants,
a bad team, are on short rest. They're zero to
four at home. Daniel Jones has not thrown a touchdown
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pass since his great left tackle was out for the season.
Their defense now is on the field too much because
the Giants offense is so bad, so their defense is
wearing down. This is a bad football team. The Commanders
offensively since Week two have been money. I think they
win straight out twenty eight to twenty. Lay the points.
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Broncos and Ravens. I generally do not like big favorites.
I love Baltimore here, especially off a loss. They're in
a bad mood, and the Ravens at Homer money. Their
five wins have come by an average of nine point
six points. Lamar's six straight games of one hundred plus
passer rating. Derrick Henry leads the NFL in rushing. I
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know what the Ravens are and their weakness the back end.
I don't think the Broncos will exploit Bo Nicks on
the row as a rookie quarterback has a sixty eight
passer rating and completing barely above sixty percent. They've got
notable injuries to their right tackle. Their wins have come
against the Jets and the Raiders, and the Saints and
the Panthers. I think this is a get right game
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for the Ravens. They cover the spread, they win thirty
three to twenty three, and I don't think it will
feel that close. Lions aid Packers. I get Green Bay
at home plus points. Jared Goffs banged up a little.
I'm gonna take the Packers here plus two and a half.
Matt Lafleur is a great coach, not a good one.
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They've won six of their last seven games. They're averaging
over twenty eight points. You know what Jordan Love or
Malik willis. The offense is moving and they're a very
aggressive green Bay team. They're second in the NFL in
big plays offensively. They lead the NFL in takeaways defensively.
This is a very unique green Bay team. They're well coached,
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they're hyper aggressive on both sides. And aggressive teams can
beat the Lions, who are banged up a little bit,
all twelve different players this week on the injury report.
They don't have Javison Williams over the top to burn
green Bay secondary. I just think in a division rivalry game,
green Bay at home, better coach getting the points. Titans
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Conn got some rushyards on Detroit last week. Be careful.
I'm going to take the Packers to win. It an
upset kind of, but I don't really feel like it's
an NFL upset when the Packers win at home with
the better coach. Twenty eight twenty seven, take the points.
Rams at Seahawks. I like the Rams, great coach with
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extra rest. These Thursday games are in advantage the following week.
They beat the Vikings on Thursday extra rest. That Rams
are one of the better teams in the league when
they're healthy. When Stafford and Puka and Cup and Kyen
Williams play, they're seven to three. They're the second least
penalized team in the league. The Rams are a really
good team with a young defense, but because they started slowly,
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people bailed on them. Seattle's lost four out of their
last five games. They've got all sorts of injuries. Tyler Lockett,
no dk Metcalf offensive lineman Seattle. In the last five games,
they're one in four. They have a defensive coach, they
can't get their offensive line, or they're running game. Right
this is a division rivalry game. I get a big
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edge at quarterback, a big edge at head coach, and
right now, a big edge in health. The Rams are
finally the healthier team in the game. That hasn't happened
all season. Rams win lay the one point twenty seven
to twenty three Los Angeles. Jmack, you gave me a
weird eye on that Cowboy game. I know it's a
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little bit of a flyer.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I can't give away everything, but we'll talk about it
in the final hour.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Falcons Cowvich. Did you see the Puka Nakua thing yesterday?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I think he's gonna play. He had limited preps.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
We if anybody's gonna have inside info would be you.
I like that. And also, hey, Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Wednesday and knee injury Thursday hasn't practiced this week.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Remember when I said we were back up there. I
don't even know remember Remember when Deebo was in the
hospital on Monday, and I said, young professional athletes with
excellent medical care get healthy very fast. Lamar practiced today.
If you think the sniffles is going to keep Lamar
Jackson out of a football game, I'm telling you right now,
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Michael Jordan had a flu game and we know it
was probably Gray Goose.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Okay, though wasn't invented at that time.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
We got to make sure Lamar is starting before fireing.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
He practiced today.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
He did, Okay, good, all clear? Got it will be
up to ten in a minute.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
And I and I believe Pooka will play. Let's bring
in our buddy fourteen seasons in the NFL Chase Daniel
on that show facility before us. I got it right.
You played for one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, seven. Yeah,
that's it. Oh, it's interesting. I watched the moment in
the Jets game last night. So all these teams you
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see the Jets did at the Ravens, did at the Bills?
Did it Kansas City? Did they bring in a good quarter,
a good player? Okay? And I thought last night it
wasn't just a play to Davante Adams. I'm like, I'm
not sure they could have done that a week ago.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
That, so you tell me when you were there and
you would bring in a very good player. It's hard
within three days of practice, Like I thought, Davonte and
Aaron had a couple of big, big and kind of
one of those body language you look at him.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Oh yeah, I mean that's exactly That's exactly what happened. Like,
I don't care if you've played with Davante your entire career.
You are in a new system, in a new offense,
in a new place, and you go and I did
see that that was exactly right. It was like a
little head nod. And then we were with James Jones
on the facility this morning. He's like it actually the
play is called gap. He just pointed to his seat.
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He's like, we did that in twenty fourteen with Aaron
Rodgers when I was there. So it really hasn't changed
a lot. I just wanted to see DeVante go out
there and be the DeVante Adams that we all thought
he was, but he hasn't been able to show it right.
And I think with that it also opened up for
Garrett Wilson, who had two touchdowns that's right, and ninety
one yards receiving along with that, and it's just like,
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that's what Jets fans hope this offense could be.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
I'm not convinced it can be that way.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
I think they have bigger issues, but it was good
to see those two guys get on the same base.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Yeah, they have some systemic coaching stuff and infrastructure stuff
I don't trust. But the teams they need to beat
to get to the wild card, the Miamis and the
Jacksonvilles and the Colts and the Texans, they're all in
front of them, and they play most of them at home,
so they got a shot.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Okay. So in your era, not to make you sound
like Dan Fouts, but in.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
My old but that old day Mac.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
But in your era, you didn't have the personal coaching,
the seven on seven camps. You played high school college
and then you went yep okay. And so I am
much less willing to just say, let's give a guy
three years. So I said this yesterday. If you dated
a woman for six months, it got worse every month.
It's not overreacting, it's hey, it doesn't work.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I'm watching Anthony Richardson, Okay. I like the old line.
I love the running back. I like the receivers, I
love the coach. It's getting worse. Yeah, it doesn't feel
like it's shortsighted to me.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
No.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
I think it's the right move.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
I think it's specifically the right move because the Colts believe.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
What you believe. I know people in that building. I
talk to them quite a bit.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
It's a good roster.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
It's a grew not great, it's a borderline great roster.
They feel like they are a lot closer than a
lot of people outside of the building.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Seam Yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
And the reason is because, like with Anthony Richardson, the
whole thing is you're not winning because of him. In fact,
I would even go as far as saying you're losing
because of him.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
I agree.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
And so when you.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Bring in Joe Flacco and let's just focus on this game, right,
The Colts Vikings game this week got so much more
interesting because of the Texans loss to the Jets. This
is a massive game in the AFC South. It's for
the taking, and we've broke it down on tablet earlier.
It's like that Vikings defense with Brian Floyes, right, what
they do from a quarterback perspective is they put you
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in a really high stress environment from all the double
a gap mug, they're walked up, they're blitzing from the left,
they're blitzing from the right, they're dropping out, they're dropping
they do a lot of stuff, and so I don't
know if Anthony Richardson could have handled that. And so
not only is it for the future, but Joe Flacco
he hasn't seen He's seen every single blitch you could
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possibly bring in the entire NFL. It's not gonna surprise them.
Now are they gonna win?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
But if you're ad Nai Mitchell, if you are Michael
Pittman Junior, if you're Josh Downs, if you're Jonathan Taylor,
you are loving this move because Joe Flacco can throw
the ball deep and that's what they do. Well, I'm
seeing the Shane Steike In offense throw the ball down
the field. Okay, Anthony Richardson is not a good deep
ball thrower, hence forty four percent completion rate by So
if you're those receivers, you're looking forward to Joe Flacco playing.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
So you know, you spent five seasons with Sean Payton
in New Orleans, and I said, going into the season,
I said, listen, Caleb's got a defensive coach. Jayden's got
a defensive coach. Michael Pennix has a defensive coach. I said,
don't be surprised if bo Nicks because if Peyton gets
off to a good start. Now, Jayden's has been remarkable,
but you tell me it. Clearly bo has gotten better
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every couple of weeks. But you can see it. What's
what's the magic potion, the elixir that Sean provides.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
Well, you look at Jayden Daniels, right, you look at
Cliff Kingsbury.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
What they're doing.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
They're running a college style offense. Caleb William's not been great.
You would say they're running a pro style offense. And
then you go to bow Nicks. I've seen Sean Payton
change the offense a little bit to help bo Nix
with his progressions, with his growth.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Given him a little college.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Yeah, there's a little college.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
And I like that because I've seen some plays that
is like almost like a delayed sprint out where bo
Nicks is killing it on the run. I've never seen
that Sean Payton's offense. I played with them five years
and usually it's a Sean Payton offensive old where you're
just looking at it and saying, all right, just throw
to this ball. And he's one of the great offensive
minds of all time in my opinion. But with Bo,
he's running the football better and he's getting more confidence.
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That's what I'm seeing with Bo as the season progresses,
specifically when you play the Panthers, you're gonna get confidence, right.
But he's doing such a good job in the pocket
subtle movements. I don't want to say he reminds me
of Drew Brees in the pocket, because Drew Brees, in
my opinion, is one of the best of all time
maneuvering the pocket. He's able, though bo Nix is, to
slide left, to slide right, those slight little movements. He's
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got a stronger arm than I think. He's more athletic
than a lot of thinking move and I think that's
the sort of the secret sauce his decision making right.
With Davis Webb as a quarterback coach, I was there
in the off season and I sat with him during
training camp and stuff like that, and I got to
see Davis Webb coach Bo Nicks. It was it was
like a mind of Sean Payton. So that's why I
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hired him.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
That.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
I think that's the secret sauce right there in that
bo Nix conversation. But you were on it, and I
think you're right. It's the movement to get out of
certain situations where a lot of other quarterbacks will just
throw it away.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
So something I look at, even in my blazing five picks.
When you give Sean McVeigh or Andy Reid or Shanahan
like they play Thursday, the following week, they get four
extra days or they get a bye. There's no question
in my life that offensive coaches the good ones, little
flu or off a bye, you're just going to get
new stuff. Here's what worries me about the Bears. They
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come off a bye against Washington. First seven possessions, six punts. Gad,
they did nothing with the extra time. What does that
tell me about their prep? What there are they just
limiting what they're giving Caleb.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
Yeah, it's the play calling, if I'm being completely honest
with you, the play calling for me, and I gave it.
And if this is harsh, you might not. It was
an F minus last game. It was an F minus.
It was so because let's just take you through the
first two games of Kayleb Williams's career as a pro.
You try to put him in a pro style offense
under center play action. Sorry, that's not what Kayleb Williams does.
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He is a creator. He is a movement guy in space.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Till they even made mistake right out of the shoot.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
Right out of the chute, right out of the shoot,
and it's Shane Waldron. And then you go to the
next three games, really the next fourteen quarters, two and
a half games, he was excellent because they opened up
the offense. They put him in shotgun, they put them
in RPO's run pass option situations. They said, hey, you
know what, let's give him pure progression reads, which for
viewers at home, it's hey, start on the left. Is
he opened? Yes, If not, go to the next guy
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do that. It wasn't half field reads. And then you
go on by and you're playing, well, you beat the
Panthers and the Jaguars. I get it, but you are
the reason, Caleb Williams, the reason they're winning those games.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
And then you come against the Dan Quinn coach team.
What's their defense is great? Right?
Speaker 5 (27:51):
And you play so poorly, and you coach so poorly
the fifty minutes first fifty minutes of that Commanders game.
But then you turn it around the last ten and
you drive I've the football field or the drive the
link to the football field twice. You score a lot
of points the last two drives, and you're gonna win
the game. And we're talking about we're not talking about it,
but we would be talking about the toast of the
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town in the Chicago Bears, if they're five and two,
they beat Jayden Daniels, they beat Dan Quinn on the road,
and then you give up a hell Mary. So, yes,
the play calling was awful, but I do think Caleb
the last ten minutes of the game, which I want
to see quarterbacks do, he carried them.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
You know, it's this is the way sports fans are.
They're great with emotion. They don't know what's contextualized stuff.
So if you don't win, you're a bum. I think
the best quarterback in the league that nobody gets yet
is Justin Herbert. If you watch the Chargers last week,
Mark Sanchez brought this on. There's nobody open like Will Disley,
who was a college defensive end.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Glad you brought it up.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I mean, there's nobody open now, Lad mcconkeye is twitchy
when he has the ball, yes, but he's not a burner.
He's not big, so fuck if you get him like
most slot guys, if you get him in space, he'll
make guys miss, He'll make linebackers look slow. But he's
not wide open. That's not what he is. So I
think I think Herbert's so gifted, but I think we
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all look and go, where are the double us? How
do you view him as somebody that was in this
league for fourteen.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
Yeah, I mean I played with him. I was on
the roster for two years. The thing about justin that
a lot of people don't understand is because we don't
cover him a lot, right. I personally love him as
a player, not only on the field, but off the
field as well.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
He's one of the better leaders.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
He's one of the best teammates I've ever been around, really,
and quite honestly, he could care less about stats. In fact,
him and Harball mess together perfectly because he don't care.
He wants to win football. You saw him last game,
the thirty eight yard run down the right side.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
He lowered his shoulder I'm like, Justin, get out of bounds.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
You were literally way too much.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
Tell me, I'm like, what are you doing? Bro get
out of bounds? But you saw him throw for three
hundred and forty six yards in a loss, and will
Disley is the leading ers. I'm like, Will Disley, I
do too, but he's a husky. But he was a
defensive Then Will Disley like, why are we doing? Like
they took away Keenan Allen, they took away Mike Williams.
Josh Palmer has not lived up.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Now as they're getting this week, I will say there
Quentin Johnson's back, and so is DJ DJ Shark.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
But and I love Lad McConkey coming out like that
was for me as soon as he got drafted, when
I was on draft covers and said he's gonna have
one hundred catches. He's on pace for ninety seven.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
It's take him a little bit of time, high volume into.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
A high volume guy. But Justin is doing things.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
And quite honestly, when you play that good of defense,
I think they've allowed ten total touchdowns this year. When
you're playing that good on defense, you can afford to
throw to Will Disley.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Okay, Finally, we said this yesterday. We have a guy
at Greg Cosell that looks at film you have but
doing it forty five years, and I said, the Chiefs
are so unique. Their offense isn't very good. It's the
but it's great in high leverage situation, no doubt, which
is usually most Many offenses in this league are good,
but in high leverage situations they get tight. The Chiefs
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are the only team in the league that I don't
trust their offense unless it's fourth down against the great defense.
So you played under Andy Reid. What does he spend
more time at practice on those Yeah?
Speaker 5 (31:03):
I mean, look, everyone knows that Andy Reid is one
of the most innovative play callers of all time. And
he gets ideas from janitors. As he used to say,
he gets ideas from backup quarterbacks, YouTube, YouTube, anywhere he
can get it, he'll try it. And he loves player accountability.
These players are coming to him with these plays, third downs,
two minute situations, fourth downs, when games on light. It
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helps that you have Patrick Mahomes, He's pretty good as well.
But when you're moving the ball down the field like
that and you're still and you're still trying to find
ways to win, like they don't have a run game.
They're out there number one and number two receivers. I
don't think DeAndre Hopkins trade moves the needle that much.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Well, he doesn't.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
He's not a separate He's great in the slot versus zone.
And I watched this literally before I came on. I
watched the game against the Raiders, and I'm sitting there thinking, like, Raiders,
why in the world would you play zone against this team?
Patrick Mahomes will each you up, play man to man,
get pressure on Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
That's how you beat this team.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
But then you'll do that Andy Reill have some crazy
man beater that comes out of nowhere that he got
from the janitor.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
So are you enjoying doing the facility? Are you enjoying it?
Speaker 4 (32:02):
I love it? Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
You know what, when I told Acho that I was
going to do show, I said, I have one thing
that I want to do, and I want to actually
break down film on a morning show. They don't do
it a lot, but we actually get the breakdown film
calling on this big board and well, you know when
we're always tossing to you and j mack over here,
it's good to see you. We're always talking in between,
like when you come out here fifteen minutes prior.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
So it's been fun.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Man.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
I'm I'm glad we're doing it.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Finally, Jared goff I said he's the least respected great
quarterback in the league. And the problem being our first
image of him. They ask him where the sun rises
on hard knocks his rookie year, he didn't know, and
the season was bad, and then and McVay moves off
and that's bad. And then they win with Stafford and
that's bad. But in five to six years, you're gonna
look at the NFL record book and he's going to
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be like seventh and eighth and like the half the league.
And I mean, to me, he is a He's Kirk
Cousins with a better arm. He's Matt Ryan with a
better arm. How do you view him? He's not very athletic.
But you know what he's never hurt, Yeah, is how
he got ragdalled for three or four years. He's never hurt.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
Yeah. Look, I like Jared Goff a lot. I don't
think we talk about him enough. I think he's the
main reason why the Detroit Lions are one of the
best teams, if not the best teams in the NFC.
And I don't live giving stats a lot, but what
he's doing right now it's historic. The last five games
he is eighty three percent completion percentage, one hundred and
fifty six rating. Okay, if he keeps on track for
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the sixth game this week and averages eighty three, and
it'll be the best stretch in the history of the
game for completion percentage and passer rating. What he's doing
is historic. Like we're not talking about it enough. It
helps that you have Sonic and Knuckles, right, Jamior Gibbs
and Dave Montgomery. It helps that you have a knee
biting head coach and Dan Campbell, right, all that stuff.
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But another man's trash is someone's treasure and with Detroit
they got the treasure in Jared Goff.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
And the thing about it is a young if you
if you build a young culture. This is what I
like about c J. Stroud.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
C J.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Stroud appears to have no ego. Goff's got no ego,
Herbert's got no ego. For as big a star as
Lamar is, I don't see the ego. I mean, that's
That's one of the things. That's why I'm so tough.
During the quarterback drafting process, it's like you're usually going
to a bad team and they're gonna build the culture
around you. Most of these great young quarterbacks, you get
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no nonsense, and that's that's.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
No nonsense guys. We like those. We like those guys.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
You can be nonsense at receiver in Mike lineback.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
You cannot at quarterback. There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Thanks for coming on the Shouldera, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
I appreciate it.
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listening to Fox Sports Radio. Oh, it is Friday. There
are things to talk about. Hope you had a great Halloween.
Live in Los Angeles. It's The Herd. Wherever you may
be and however you may be watching or listening, maybe streaming.
Thanks for making us part of your day. In one
hour from now, the Blazing five Picks, I think it
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could be my best picks of the year, first or
second best picks. Last time I said that we had
like a four and one week. We had a very
good week three and two, four and one, So I
feel very good about the picks. I'm gonna do something
I almost never do, take a huge favorite. I almost
never do that. I take big favorites off the board,
sucker bets this week. Feel very strongly Jaymack. You know
it's funny. Last night I texted Jmack because he's out there,
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you know, and it's a outfit and getting candy for
the kids. And he was very negative about the Jets,
and I said, hey, be positive, you're going into a
nice Friday. And what do you know, in that fourth quarter,
it all clicked for the Jets.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
All right, I'm not going to get too excited. I
was listened as doubtful for the show today after a
long Halloween night on the injury report.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
But sure they won. Go ahead, gass them up.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Now they snap that five game losing skid twenty one
to thirteen. Win. Listen, all right, positive calumn. Because they
played on Thursday, they get extra prep time for their
next game. That's a big advantage with the veteran quarterback.
So let's say they can beat Arizona, they get the
Seahawks at home, and they get the Colts at home,
they get the Rams at home, they play the kruddy
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Jaguars if they end up kind of turning it around.
One play is the cat The catch by Garrett Wilson. Remarkable.
That was a third and nineteen in the fourth quarter,
and they just were stop and start offensively all game. Backup, kicker,
you didn't trust them. They trailed ten to seven, that
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catch and the Texans inability to protect CJ. Stroud, who
was sacked eight times, infused real life and energy into
Aaron Rodgers the sideline, the crowd before that catch. It
kind of felt like they just couldn't keep any momentum
going second half. I thought Aaron Rodgers played well, but
that was the play a third and nineteen fourth quarter trailing.
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Can't trust your kicker, he's a backup. I mean, even
on that drive before that third and nineteen great catch,
they failed on a fourth and one. The Texans had
a penalty and it bailed them out. So two and
seven was staring this team right in the face of
fans had bags on. They were I'd read this morning.
Apparently I couldn't hear this. They were chanting sell the
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team at Metlive Stadium. So nice win. Now, nothing changes
about the core of the Jets, right. We don't love
the owner, it's an interim coach. They're on their second
play caller. I mean, they had a touchdown nullified because
some rookie wide receiver dropped the ball to one yard line.
They had a couple really really bad special teams penalties.
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I mean, nothing is really really changed right at their core.
They beat themselves. They make silly mistakes. But that catch
and Aaron Rodgers in the second half, where he had
a passer rating of one forty seven point seven, it
feels like something and there is a route. There is
a route to the playoffs. You get to play the
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Dolphins twice, okay again. You get a lot of teams
like the Colts. You beat the Texans last night, the Jaguars,
teams you could be battling for a wild card spot
in the AFC. You're not as good as Buffalo, Baltimore,
Kansas City. They're gonna win their divisions. But if you
beat the Texans, they may be battling you for a
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while wild card team. You could beat the Colts at home,
the Jaguars. You have a chance here, all these teams
that are going to end up in that eight and
nine win territory. You got one done. You already lost
to Denver, so you got to win the rest of them.
But even when the Jets win and Aaron place pretty
well in the second half, you don't trust them because
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they are a guidebook on how not to run a franchise.
Despite the occasional brilliant catch or pass, I mean, this
is their first win since September nineteenth. Think about that,
the Baseball Playoffs hadn't started yet. That's the last time
they won. I think Kamala Harris had just been nominated
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a few weeks earlier, right like, so it had been
a long time, and it was a home game on
a short week against the team that's ravaged by injuries,
the Texan. But you know, what's the day after Halloween.
So enjoy your snickers and enjoy your Jets win. At
least at least we know snickers satisfies three and six
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doesn't feel very satisfying. But I will say this, Aaron
had a lot of energy. There are some offensive weapons.
You're playing a lot of teams and just beat one
that you'll probably be battling for an AFC wildcard spot.
Here's Aaron after on Garrett Wilson's remarkable catch that could
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be the catalyst for the season.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
I knew it was third and extra long.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
I was looking at the weak side safety and I
was like, if he drops down at all, I'm just
gonna say screw it.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I'm gonna throw it up to g I feel like
I put it in a decent spot.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
But.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
Yeah, I didn't do a whole lot when it comes
down to it, I just got a lob one up there.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
He made an unbelievable catch.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Way to go Jets. It was a great catch, had
an obj feel, one leg down and the shin. I
really believe there are moments in life for teams, for people,
for businesses when you can look back and go, man,
it just gave us. And if you watch the Jets
sideline after that play, it was like, there's a little
juice here. We'll see what transpire is going forward. Okay.
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So I said this yesterday and I believe it one
of the more interesting games of the weekend. Chicago Bears
Arizona Cardinals. I think it's really interesting because the Bear schedule,
they get a couple of winnable games next then they
go into a brutal, brutal schlog against all the teams
in their division. So Caleb Williams, the quarterback for the Bears,
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young talented kid his dad, was messing around on the
x or Twitter last night. He has since deleted it,
but at one point he looked like he took a
shot at the Bear's coaching staff by complimenting the commander's
coaching staff, hashtag accountability, hashtag real coach, So dads do
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the strangest things. He has since deleted it, and I
was just thinking about, you know, don't we kind of
all know how the Bear season's gonna end.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
We do.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
They're gonna win about seven or eight games. They're gonna
finish in fourth place in a great division, and then
Matt Iberflus is not going to feel like the right coach.
That's everything I predicted about seven weeks ago before the
season started. Fourth place, Eberflus in trouble, and they're gonna
win about seven or eight games. It's turning out that
way week to week. The NFL is kind of unpredictable, right.
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It feels crazy, but it's really not in a macro level.
In fact, my shocking playoff team, the Commanders, even the
surprises aren't that great of a revelation. I said, I
think Commander is going to surprise people. They're the surprise
team in the league. They're not that surprising. There are
three things, though, and this is why I feel strongly
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about my preseason prediction on the Bears and why it's
coming true. There are kind of three things that work
against the Bears. Number one is the commander's staff is
making their rookie quarterback Jaden Daniels look so seamless, so excellent,
so amazing. You know you're being compared to that, And
with Caleb Williams, it feels like it's like one step forward,
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one step back. Okay, let's refine the reads, let's simplify
the offense. It looks very bumpy and very very turbulent.
And in Washington it just looks like great coaching, great
kid going in one direction. So that's working against you.
The second thing that works against you pretty predictable Packers,
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great quarterback, great offensive coach, Vikings, good quarterback, great offensive coach,
Lions excellent quarterback. I mean, Dan Campbell's been an excellent
coach so far. Offense, offense, offense, offense, Bears, what do
you know, defensive coach, and the offense is all over
the map. So again you're going to be compared to
the commanders. You're going to be compared to the quarterbacks
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and the coaching in your division. And the third thing
working against eber Flus and why I think my prediction was,
you know, pretty easy on the Bears is their history.
Everybody in Chicago is like, do we really trust the
Bears to elevate an excellent, young, talented quarterback. They've never
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had a four thousand yard in one season a four
thousand yard quarterback, so there's no confidence the organization can
get it done. And I would argue strongly they already
screwed it up by interviewing Cliff Kingsbury, who was Caleb's
coach in college at USC and they let him walk
out of the building without a contract he wanted. Reportedly,
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I was told he wanted to work with Caleb Williams
and they passed on him. And look at what a
great job Kingsbury's doing with Jaden Daniels, who's never worked
with before. But it's crushing it. So Caleb's dad inflaming things,
and don't kid yourself. People are talking about that, you know,
parents knowing their kids are unhappy. Caleb's dad inflaming things
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is only about number thirty eight on the list of
things I worry about, you know, and all things stated.
It should be also duly noted that Bear's players this
week went out and criticized publicly the Bears staff. So
I don't think I don't think the dead going hashtag accountability,
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hashtag real coach is something I love. But I do
think that Matt Eberflus will get one year to work
with Caleb Williams. And last week that second half meltdown,
you did not play to his favor. Danny Parkins on
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our morning show here Breakfast Ball, former Chicago radio host,
talks about Eberflus.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
The thing with Matt Eberflus that drives me insane is
don't you know what on my shoes and tell me
it's raining? Like he was, like, I don't think we
needed a time out before the hail Mary because everyone
was in position. Tyreek Stevenson back was to the ball,
like everyone wasn't in position. Matt Eberflus kind of chose
the route of denial instead of accountability. And that's the thing, honest,
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more than the failed execution that bothered me most.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
All Right, j Mack, here's the good news though. Blazing five,
your herdline er, your picks later in the third hour,
your jets one offenses healthy, He's got playmakers extra time
to prepare for Arizona. How about a deep breath and
a little soliloquy on the positive vibes off your sugar
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high last night.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah, how about the thirty two yards passing for Aaron
Rodgers in the first half?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
It was ugly thirty two yards.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Now second half was a different story. Touchdown, touchdown, touchdown. Yeah,
the young kid dropped the ball before walking out. Oh wow,
I mean my phone lit up. I mean I'm friends
with a bunch of Jets fans. Listen, we gotta win.
I'm not gonna look at the schedules, say we have
the Mini by No and then Arizona.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I'm not gonna get excited, but there are little things
Colts at home, you know, teams at home that you're
gonna be battling. You have all these opportunities. You get
the Dolphins twice, the Jaguars. There are opportunities. There is
a route here, sure.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Okay, yeah, is this like the Charlie Brown thing where
you pull the football out. I get all excited.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Okay, I'm gonna kick at this time and like you're
gonna yank it out from underneath because they lose to
the Colts and Joe.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Flacco or something like.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
All right, come on, man, don't get me excited.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Forty five minutes from now, I think this is my
second strongest Blazing five of the week. Now, who knows, right?
I mean, you don't know. We did tell you yesterday, Ryan,
we have it archive. We take the show yesterday. We
guaranteed the Jets win yesterday. We get it was a
little dicey start of the fourth, but we guaranteed the
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Jets win. We were kind of close on how it
would look the score. So I feel good about our
blazing five and forty five minutes. Be sure to catch
live editions of The Herd Weekdays and Noone Eastern a
em Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one and the
iHeartRadio app. Here we go. It's a Friday, it's hour two.
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I'm making dinner reservations. I all fired up Friday nights
off little pasta tonight. Let's have some fun.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Are you getting after it in a neighborhood I'm aware of?
Speaker 6 (13:08):
Or no?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Because I might be in that area tonight.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
No, I don't the bulge, Okay, got last night you
were out there.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
I was living it up.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
You know, LA loved a good block party on Halloween.
It's Halloween's really fun out of here in La. You know,
it's nice.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
You know what I was doing last night cigar. Nope,
total clarity.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
No celebrating the Jets in the streets.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Let's go Getrol Wilson in the streets. Yeah, Hey, I
was standing on business. Okay, I like these picks. I
usually like my picks, but sometimes I really like my picks.
That doesn't mean anything, but uh, last couple of weeks,
I think I've been better. We had the Jets last
night on DraftKings. So here we go. Let's blaze it up.
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Up It's Collins blazing fuck Cowboys had I like Dallas
plus three. I think they're gonna win straight out. Listen.
It's a must win. And they've actually been a better
road team than a home team this year. The Falcons
six of their eight wins have come by one possession.
Their defense six sacks. Dak Prescott's gonna sit in the
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pocket with time to throw. The Falcons defense this year
on third down terrible quarterback hit sacks terrible. A comfortable
Dack said this a couple of weeks ago, and Seattle
beat him a comfortable quarterback against Atlanta. I'm gonna take
the Cowboys here twenty eight to twenty seven in a
fun game. Commanders and giants. You know, I love the
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number four. I'm gonna take Commanders minus four. They outplayed
the Bears. It should never have been that close. They
lead the NFL in points per drive. That's a key
gambling stat. Their defense, I don't think they have great personnel,
but dan Quinn's got them playing like a top ten unit. Giants,
a bad team, are on short rest. They're zero to
four at home. Daniel Jones has not thrown a touchdown
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pass since his great left tackle was out for the season.
Their defense now is on the field too much because
the Giants offense is so bad, so their defense is
wearing down. This is a bad football team. The Commanders
offensively since Week two have been money. I think they
win straight out twenty eight to twenty. Lay the points.
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Broncos and Ravens. I generally do not like big favorites.
I love Baltimore here, especially off a loss. They're in
a bad mood, and the Ravens at Homer money. Their
five wins have come by an average of nine point
six points. Lamar's six straight games of one hundred plus
passer rating. Derrick Henry leads the NFL in rushing. I
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know what the Ravens are and their weakness the back end.
I don't think the Broncos will exploit Bo Nicks on
the row as a rookie quarterback has a sixty eight
passer rating and completing barely above sixty percent. They've got
notable injuries to their right tackle. Their wins have come
against the Jets and the Raiders, and the Saints and
the Panthers. I think this is a get right game
(16:15):
for the Ravens. They cover the spread, they win thirty
three to twenty three, and I don't think it will
feel that close. Lions aid Packers. I get Green Bay
at home plus points. Jared Goffs banged up a little.
I'm gonna take the Packers here plus two and a half.
Matt Lafleur is a great coach, not a good one.
(16:36):
They've won six of their last seven games. They're averaging
over twenty eight points. You know what Jordan Love or
Malik willis. The offense is moving and they're a very
aggressive green Bay team. They're second in the NFL in
big plays offensively. They lead the NFL in takeaways defensively.
This is a very unique green Bay team. They're well coached,
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they're hyper aggressive on both sides. And aggressive teams can
beat the Lions, who are banged up a little bit,
all twelve different players this week on the injury report.
They don't have Javison Williams over the top to burn
green Bay secondary. I just think in a division rivalry game,
green Bay at home, better coach getting the points. Titans
(17:18):
Conn got some rushyards on Detroit last week. Be careful.
I'm going to take the Packers to win. It an
upset kind of, but I don't really feel like it's
an NFL upset when the Packers win at home with
the better coach. Twenty eight twenty seven, take the points.
Rams at Seahawks. I like the Rams, great coach with
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extra rest. These Thursday games are in advantage the following week.
They beat the Vikings on Thursday extra rest. That Rams
are one of the better teams in the league when
they're healthy. When Stafford and Puka and Cup and Kyen
Williams play, they're seven to three. They're the second least
penalized team in the league. The Rams are a really
good team with a young defense, but because they started slowly,
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people bailed on them. Seattle's lost four out of their
last five games. They've got all sorts of injuries. Tyler Lockett,
no dk Metcalf offensive lineman Seattle. In the last five games,
they're one in four. They have a defensive coach, they
can't get their offensive line, or they're running game. Right
this is a division rivalry game. I get a big
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edge at quarterback, a big edge at head coach, and
right now, a big edge in health. The Rams are
finally the healthier team in the game. That hasn't happened
all season. Rams win lay the one point twenty seven
to twenty three Los Angeles. Jmack, you gave me a
weird eye on that Cowboy game. I know it's a
(18:44):
little bit of a flyer.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I can't give away everything, but we'll talk about it
in the final hour.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Falcons Cowvich. Did you see the Puka Nakua thing yesterday?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I think he's gonna play. He had limited preps.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
We if anybody's gonna have inside info would be you.
I like that. And also, hey, Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Wednesday and knee injury Thursday hasn't practiced this week.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Remember when I said we were back up there. I
don't even know remember Remember when Deebo was in the
hospital on Monday, and I said, young professional athletes with
excellent medical care get healthy very fast. Lamar practiced today.
If you think the sniffles is going to keep Lamar
Jackson out of a football game, I'm telling you right now,
(19:26):
Michael Jordan had a flu game and we know it
was probably Gray Goose.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Okay, though wasn't invented at that time.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
We got to make sure Lamar is starting before fireing.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
He practiced today.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
He did, Okay, good, all clear? Got it will be
up to ten in a minute.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
And I and I believe Pooka will play. Let's bring
in our buddy fourteen seasons in the NFL Chase Daniel
on that show facility before us. I got it right.
You played for one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, seven. Yeah,
that's it. Oh, it's interesting. I watched the moment in
the Jets game last night. So all these teams you
(20:04):
see the Jets did at the Ravens, did at the Bills?
Did it Kansas City? Did they bring in a good quarter,
a good player? Okay? And I thought last night it
wasn't just a play to Davante Adams. I'm like, I'm
not sure they could have done that a week ago.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
That, so you tell me when you were there and
you would bring in a very good player. It's hard
within three days of practice, Like I thought, Davonte and
Aaron had a couple of big, big and kind of
one of those body language you look at him.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Oh yeah, I mean that's exactly That's exactly what happened. Like,
I don't care if you've played with Davante your entire career.
You are in a new system, in a new offense,
in a new place, and you go and I did
see that that was exactly right. It was like a
little head nod. And then we were with James Jones
on the facility this morning. He's like it actually the
play is called gap. He just pointed to his seat.
(20:50):
He's like, we did that in twenty fourteen with Aaron
Rodgers when I was there. So it really hasn't changed
a lot. I just wanted to see DeVante go out
there and be the DeVante Adams that we all thought
he was, but he hasn't been able to show it right.
And I think with that it also opened up for
Garrett Wilson, who had two touchdowns that's right, and ninety
one yards receiving along with that, and it's just like,
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that's what Jets fans hope this offense could be.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
I'm not convinced it can be that way.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
I think they have bigger issues, but it was good
to see those two guys get on the same base.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Yeah, they have some systemic coaching stuff and infrastructure stuff
I don't trust. But the teams they need to beat
to get to the wild card, the Miamis and the
Jacksonvilles and the Colts and the Texans, they're all in
front of them, and they play most of them at home,
so they got a shot.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Okay. So in your era, not to make you sound
like Dan Fouts, but in.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
My old but that old day Mac.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
But in your era, you didn't have the personal coaching,
the seven on seven camps. You played high school college
and then you went yep okay. And so I am
much less willing to just say, let's give a guy
three years. So I said this yesterday. If you dated
a woman for six months, it got worse every month.
It's not overreacting, it's hey, it doesn't work.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I'm watching Anthony Richardson, Okay. I like the old line.
I love the running back. I like the receivers, I
love the coach. It's getting worse. Yeah, it doesn't feel
like it's shortsighted to me.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
No.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
I think it's the right move.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
I think it's specifically the right move because the Colts believe.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
What you believe. I know people in that building. I
talk to them quite a bit.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
It's a good roster.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
It's a grew not great, it's a borderline great roster.
They feel like they are a lot closer than a
lot of people outside of the building.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Seam Yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
And the reason is because, like with Anthony Richardson, the
whole thing is you're not winning because of him. In fact,
I would even go as far as saying you're losing
because of him.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
I agree.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
And so when you.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Bring in Joe Flacco and let's just focus on this game, right,
The Colts Vikings game this week got so much more
interesting because of the Texans loss to the Jets. This
is a massive game in the AFC South. It's for
the taking, and we've broke it down on tablet earlier.
It's like that Vikings defense with Brian Floyes, right, what
they do from a quarterback perspective is they put you
(23:09):
in a really high stress environment from all the double
a gap mug, they're walked up, they're blitzing from the left,
they're blitzing from the right, they're dropping out, they're dropping
they do a lot of stuff, and so I don't
know if Anthony Richardson could have handled that. And so
not only is it for the future, but Joe Flacco
he hasn't seen He's seen every single blitch you could
(23:30):
possibly bring in the entire NFL. It's not gonna surprise them.
Now are they gonna win?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
But if you're ad Nai Mitchell, if you are Michael
Pittman Junior, if you're Josh Downs, if you're Jonathan Taylor,
you are loving this move because Joe Flacco can throw
the ball deep and that's what they do. Well, I'm
seeing the Shane Steike In offense throw the ball down
the field. Okay, Anthony Richardson is not a good deep
ball thrower, hence forty four percent completion rate by So
if you're those receivers, you're looking forward to Joe Flacco playing.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
So you know, you spent five seasons with Sean Payton
in New Orleans, and I said, going into the season,
I said, listen, Caleb's got a defensive coach. Jayden's got
a defensive coach. Michael Pennix has a defensive coach. I said,
don't be surprised if bo Nicks because if Peyton gets
off to a good start. Now, Jayden's has been remarkable,
but you tell me it. Clearly bo has gotten better
(24:23):
every couple of weeks. But you can see it. What's
what's the magic potion, the elixir that Sean provides.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
Well, you look at Jayden Daniels, right, you look at
Cliff Kingsbury.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
What they're doing.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
They're running a college style offense. Caleb William's not been great.
You would say they're running a pro style offense. And
then you go to bow Nicks. I've seen Sean Payton
change the offense a little bit to help bo Nix
with his progressions, with his growth.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Given him a little college.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Yeah, there's a little college.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
And I like that because I've seen some plays that
is like almost like a delayed sprint out where bo
Nicks is killing it on the run. I've never seen
that Sean Payton's offense. I played with them five years
and usually it's a Sean Payton offensive old where you're
just looking at it and saying, all right, just throw
to this ball. And he's one of the great offensive
minds of all time in my opinion. But with Bo,
he's running the football better and he's getting more confidence.
(25:15):
That's what I'm seeing with Bo as the season progresses,
specifically when you play the Panthers, you're gonna get confidence, right.
But he's doing such a good job in the pocket
subtle movements. I don't want to say he reminds me
of Drew Brees in the pocket, because Drew Brees, in
my opinion, is one of the best of all time
maneuvering the pocket. He's able, though bo Nix is, to
slide left, to slide right, those slight little movements. He's
(25:37):
got a stronger arm than I think. He's more athletic
than a lot of thinking move and I think that's
the sort of the secret sauce his decision making right.
With Davis Webb as a quarterback coach, I was there
in the off season and I sat with him during
training camp and stuff like that, and I got to
see Davis Webb coach Bo Nicks. It was it was
like a mind of Sean Payton. So that's why I
(25:59):
hired him.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
That.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
I think that's the secret sauce right there in that
bo Nix conversation. But you were on it, and I
think you're right. It's the movement to get out of
certain situations where a lot of other quarterbacks will just
throw it away.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
So something I look at, even in my blazing five picks.
When you give Sean McVeigh or Andy Reid or Shanahan
like they play Thursday, the following week, they get four
extra days or they get a bye. There's no question
in my life that offensive coaches the good ones, little
flu or off a bye, you're just going to get
new stuff. Here's what worries me about the Bears. They
(26:34):
come off a bye against Washington. First seven possessions, six punts. Gad,
they did nothing with the extra time. What does that
tell me about their prep? What there are they just
limiting what they're giving Caleb.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
Yeah, it's the play calling, if I'm being completely honest
with you, the play calling for me, and I gave it.
And if this is harsh, you might not. It was
an F minus last game. It was an F minus.
It was so because let's just take you through the
first two games of Kayleb Williams's career as a pro.
You try to put him in a pro style offense
under center play action. Sorry, that's not what Kayleb Williams does.
(27:10):
He is a creator. He is a movement guy in space.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Till they even made mistake right out of the shoot.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
Right out of the chute, right out of the shoot,
and it's Shane Waldron. And then you go to the
next three games, really the next fourteen quarters, two and
a half games, he was excellent because they opened up
the offense. They put him in shotgun, they put them
in RPO's run pass option situations. They said, hey, you
know what, let's give him pure progression reads, which for
viewers at home, it's hey, start on the left. Is
he opened? Yes, If not, go to the next guy
(27:37):
do that. It wasn't half field reads. And then you
go on by and you're playing, well, you beat the
Panthers and the Jaguars. I get it, but you are
the reason, Caleb Williams, the reason they're winning those games.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
And then you come against the Dan Quinn coach team.
What's their defense is great? Right?
Speaker 5 (27:51):
And you play so poorly, and you coach so poorly
the fifty minutes first fifty minutes of that Commanders game.
But then you turn it around the last ten and
you drive I've the football field or the drive the
link to the football field twice. You score a lot
of points the last two drives, and you're gonna win
the game. And we're talking about we're not talking about it,
but we would be talking about the toast of the
(28:12):
town in the Chicago Bears, if they're five and two,
they beat Jayden Daniels, they beat Dan Quinn on the road,
and then you give up a hell Mary. So, yes,
the play calling was awful, but I do think Caleb
the last ten minutes of the game, which I want
to see quarterbacks do, he carried them.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
You know, it's this is the way sports fans are.
They're great with emotion. They don't know what's contextualized stuff.
So if you don't win, you're a bum. I think
the best quarterback in the league that nobody gets yet
is Justin Herbert. If you watch the Chargers last week,
Mark Sanchez brought this on. There's nobody open like Will Disley,
who was a college defensive end.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Glad you brought it up.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I mean, there's nobody open now, Lad mcconkeye is twitchy
when he has the ball, yes, but he's not a burner.
He's not big, so fuck if you get him like
most slot guys, if you get him in space, he'll
make guys miss, He'll make linebackers look slow. But he's
not wide open. That's not what he is. So I
think I think Herbert's so gifted, but I think we
(29:09):
all look and go, where are the double us? How
do you view him as somebody that was in this
league for fourteen.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
Yeah, I mean I played with him. I was on
the roster for two years. The thing about justin that
a lot of people don't understand is because we don't
cover him a lot, right. I personally love him as
a player, not only on the field, but off the
field as well.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
He's one of the better leaders.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
He's one of the best teammates I've ever been around, really,
and quite honestly, he could care less about stats. In fact,
him and Harball mess together perfectly because he don't care.
He wants to win football. You saw him last game,
the thirty eight yard run down the right side.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
He lowered his shoulder I'm like, Justin, get out of bounds.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
You were literally way too much.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
Tell me, I'm like, what are you doing? Bro get
out of bounds? But you saw him throw for three
hundred and forty six yards in a loss, and will
Disley is the leading ers. I'm like, Will Disley, I
do too, but he's a husky. But he was a
defensive Then Will Disley like, why are we doing? Like
they took away Keenan Allen, they took away Mike Williams.
Josh Palmer has not lived up.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Now as they're getting this week, I will say there
Quentin Johnson's back, and so is DJ DJ Shark.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
But and I love Lad McConkey coming out like that
was for me as soon as he got drafted, when
I was on draft covers and said he's gonna have
one hundred catches. He's on pace for ninety seven.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
It's take him a little bit of time, high volume into.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
A high volume guy. But Justin is doing things.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
And quite honestly, when you play that good of defense,
I think they've allowed ten total touchdowns this year. When
you're playing that good on defense, you can afford to
throw to Will Disley.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Okay, Finally, we said this yesterday. We have a guy
at Greg Cosell that looks at film you have but
doing it forty five years, and I said, the Chiefs
are so unique. Their offense isn't very good. It's the
but it's great in high leverage situation, no doubt, which
is usually most Many offenses in this league are good,
but in high leverage situations they get tight. The Chiefs
(30:52):
are the only team in the league that I don't
trust their offense unless it's fourth down against the great defense.
So you played under Andy Reid. What does he spend
more time at practice on those Yeah?
Speaker 5 (31:03):
I mean, look, everyone knows that Andy Reid is one
of the most innovative play callers of all time. And
he gets ideas from janitors. As he used to say,
he gets ideas from backup quarterbacks, YouTube, YouTube, anywhere he
can get it, he'll try it. And he loves player accountability.
These players are coming to him with these plays, third downs,
two minute situations, fourth downs, when games on light. It
(31:24):
helps that you have Patrick Mahomes, He's pretty good as well.
But when you're moving the ball down the field like
that and you're still and you're still trying to find
ways to win, like they don't have a run game.
They're out there number one and number two receivers. I
don't think DeAndre Hopkins trade moves the needle that much.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Well, he doesn't.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
He's not a separate He's great in the slot versus zone.
And I watched this literally before I came on. I
watched the game against the Raiders, and I'm sitting there thinking, like, Raiders,
why in the world would you play zone against this team?
Patrick Mahomes will each you up, play man to man,
get pressure on Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
That's how you beat this team.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
But then you'll do that Andy Reill have some crazy
man beater that comes out of nowhere that he got
from the janitor.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
So are you enjoying doing the facility? Are you enjoying it?
Speaker 4 (32:02):
I love it? Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
You know what, when I told Acho that I was
going to do show, I said, I have one thing
that I want to do, and I want to actually
break down film on a morning show. They don't do
it a lot, but we actually get the breakdown film
calling on this big board and well, you know when
we're always tossing to you and j mack over here,
it's good to see you. We're always talking in between,
like when you come out here fifteen minutes prior.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
So it's been fun.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Man.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
I'm I'm glad we're doing it.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Finally, Jared goff I said he's the least respected great
quarterback in the league. And the problem being our first
image of him. They ask him where the sun rises
on hard knocks his rookie year, he didn't know, and
the season was bad, and then and McVay moves off
and that's bad. And then they win with Stafford and
that's bad. But in five to six years, you're gonna
look at the NFL record book and he's going to
(32:47):
be like seventh and eighth and like the half the league.
And I mean, to me, he is a He's Kirk
Cousins with a better arm. He's Matt Ryan with a
better arm. How do you view him? He's not very athletic.
But you know what he's never hurt, Yeah, is how
he got ragdalled for three or four years. He's never hurt.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
Yeah. Look, I like Jared Goff a lot. I don't
think we talk about him enough. I think he's the
main reason why the Detroit Lions are one of the
best teams, if not the best teams in the NFC.
And I don't live giving stats a lot, but what
he's doing right now it's historic. The last five games
he is eighty three percent completion percentage, one hundred and
fifty six rating. Okay, if he keeps on track for
(33:33):
the sixth game this week and averages eighty three, and
it'll be the best stretch in the history of the
game for completion percentage and passer rating. What he's doing
is historic. Like we're not talking about it enough. It
helps that you have Sonic and Knuckles, right, Jamior Gibbs
and Dave Montgomery. It helps that you have a knee
biting head coach and Dan Campbell, right, all that stuff.
(33:54):
But another man's trash is someone's treasure and with Detroit
they got the treasure in Jared Goff.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
And the thing about it is a young if you
if you build a young culture. This is what I
like about c J. Stroud.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
C J.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Stroud appears to have no ego. Goff's got no ego,
Herbert's got no ego. For as big a star as
Lamar is, I don't see the ego. I mean, that's
That's one of the things. That's why I'm so tough.
During the quarterback drafting process, it's like you're usually going
to a bad team and they're gonna build the culture
around you. Most of these great young quarterbacks, you get
(34:27):
no nonsense, and that's that's.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
No nonsense guys. We like those. We like those guys.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
You can be nonsense at receiver in Mike lineback.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
You cannot at quarterback. There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Thanks for coming on the Shouldera, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
I appreciate it.
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