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November 14, 2025 41 mins

Colin’s NFL Week 11 Best Bets in the Blazing 5, featuring full breakdowns and betting insights for:

  • Buccaneers at Bills
  • Seahawks at Rams
  • Lions at Eagles

 

Colin talks to former NFL coach Dave Wannstedt about the Chicago Bears this season, the improvement of Caleb Williams, The Big 10, and more

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Here we go our two on a Friday, All sorts
of energy. I did big carbs last night, Jmac, a
big pre Blazing five carb night bowling A's pizza. Give
me that jet fuel I need for my Blazing five picks.
Fifty eight percent on the year. He's hot.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
He's hot.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Ye listen, you needed carbs.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Last night after the beating I put down on you
in that Austin Reeves discussion. That was fun yesterday.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
You love that.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
I don't ete fifty eight percent. It's kind of sort
of hot. You want to make it's this weekend or what?

Speaker 1 (01:02):
I want to save some money for the kids. I
don't want them. I don't want to be a ballhog
and take all the wins. But let's not waste any time.
We're hot, We're hungry. Here's the Blazing five.

Speaker 5 (01:14):
Let's blaze it up right up, it's Collins blazon fuck
Buccaneers and Bills.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
I like Buffalo at home minus five and a half
from one hundred degrees in Miami counting humidity. Now they
get a warm weather team up in Buffalo, where the
weather's forty and windy. They are the number one rushing
offense that matters in bad weather. Outgained opponents in three
straight games, and their last five wins they've won by
at least a touchdowns. When Buffalo wins, they tend to

(01:42):
play down hail and win big. Tampa Bucky Irving not playing,
Mike Evans, not playing Chris Godwin, probably not playing. Their
offense is dried up in Tampa. Out gained in five
straight games. They're averaging eighteen points. Are the Bucks in
their last three They're two beat up, asking too much
of Baker Mayfield. I like the Bills to win an

(02:03):
ugly weather thirty to twenty three.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
And cover Seahawks and Rams.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Wise, guys may not agree with me. I'll take Seattle
plus three ten straight road wins, so that's not an issue.
Tied for the fewest sacks allowed and the second most sacks.
That's very Denver like it's easy to win games when
your quarterback is the more comfortable averaging six and a
half yards of play, so they extend drives. Keep Sam

(02:32):
Darnold JSN on the field, and not a small note.
Great special teams number one PFF. That matters because the
Rams special teams have been wonky all season. Also, the
Rams three of their four wins have been against backups.
On this winning streak, they're a little overvalued. To me,
this is a Pickham game. I like Seattle getting a

(02:56):
field goal. Keep your eye on special team's edge for
the Hawks. Twenty eight twenty seven. Seattle wins outright.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Forty nine ers said Cardinals.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Ah Brock Purty's playing. I like the Niners minus two
and a half. They're coming off their worst loss of
the season. They will be in a bad move. Rock Purty,
of all the teams he's ever played, has owned Arizona.
The Cardinals have lost six of seven. James Connor Marvin
Harrison out so they don't have most of their weapons.

(03:27):
They've been outscored badly in the fourth quarter. They don't
have much to begin with. I know j Mack loved
him in the preseason, but they got no juice, no energy,
and they're missing stars. They do not get to the quarterback.
Niners O line's been better than I've given it credit for.
Rock Purty has time to throw. His team's getting healthier.
Niners win and they cover twenty eight to twenty three.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Ravens and Browns.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
I like the Browns plus eight and a half. Have
not lost by more than one score at home against
the division opponent since twenty twenty three. They always played
tough at home against their division. Dylan Gabriel has been stabilized,
no interceptions in four of his five starts, multiple touchdowns
in the last couple. He's been stabilized by a great

(04:16):
coach and he's getting that. Rookie running back quinch On
Judkins is now on fire and in a groove, so
they can do some ball control in cold weather. The
Ravens third straight road game. Play a lot of close
games against divisional opponents. And the other thing is that
defense on the road is not very good for Baltimore.
It's not the same. It's much better at home. I

(04:38):
think Baltimore wins eight and a half way way too
many points. Ugly, low scoring game. Third straight road game
for the Ravens a little fatigue, twenty four to twenty
take the points.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Lions at Eagles.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
I like Philadelphia. They're a step up team. They're four
and one this year against teams with winning They often
play better in the bigger games. Packers, Bucks, Chiefs, Rams
beat them all. Their offense never turns it over. Four
giveaways all season. They don't beat themselves, and they're great
in the red zone. Nobody's better, not even the Chiefs.
So if they can move the ball, and I think

(05:15):
they will, they will score in the red zone. The
Lions defense on the road not the same. Jared Goff
playing under fifty degrees, everything moves down, regression takes place.
Panay Sewel's banged up, Sam Laporte's banged up Detroit cold
weather worries me, and I think Philadelphia knows what they are.

(05:37):
I think they're going to win this game and cover
twenty eight to twenty four. Two of the best rosters
in the NFL. So I like a clear dog in
the Cleveland Browns, but I like favored Buffalo favored forty
nine Ers, favored Eagles, Seahawks Rams line doesn't make a
lot of sense to me. That should be a pick
them to one point. Now that Seattle gets a field goal,

(06:00):
I really like him. Again. Keep your eye on special
teams because the Seahawks have been excellent in the Rams.
I think they're using now another kicker a game. I
did not put in the Blazing five, and Dave Wantstat,
the former Bears coach, is going to be here in
ten minutes to talk about it. I didn't put the
Bears Minnesota game in. I just want to watch it.

(06:23):
The lines, I don't know. Are the Bears overvalued. Here's
the interesting thing. I don't need my young quarterbacks to
be perfect. I need progress. I'm not looking for perfection.
The Vikings are bad on third down. They're giving the
ball up prestat penalties. I'm not getting progress. So the
interesting thing is JJ McCarthy and Justin Jefferson are not working.

(06:45):
He's averaging four catches a game. So you can go
back to twenty twenty three, when the Vikings had Kirk
Cousins and Josh Dobbs and Nick Mullen and Jaron Hall.
Nobody was talking about Justin Jefferson quitting. There's a lot
of talk now. Justin Jefferson's body language is bad. So
that tells me the belief in the building practice is

(07:05):
not great. That's what it tells me. So I don't
think JJ McCarthy has to beat the Bears. I think
the Bears are pretty good. You was just asked this
morning by somebody, what do you make of the Bears,
and I said, they're exactly what you see on TV.
They're good enough to beat average teams narrowly. They got
to clean some stuff up. They need DeAndre Swift back,
but they're a good, solid, playoff, feeling team that just

(07:27):
needs to keep getting seven, eight nine percent better every weekend.
It's really interesting. What also doesn't help JJ McCarthy. Let's
be honest about this. You ever worked at a place
and you have this employee that everybody loves and the
company's better with the employee, and then the company does
not pay that employee goes across the street and he
crushes it, and the guy that replaces him in your

(07:49):
company and not very good. Everybody's watching Daniel Jones and
Sam Darnold. They were both in the building and they're
both having MVP years. So that doesn't help JJ McCarthy
because the two guys that everybody liked in the building
left and they're crushing it. So it just adds a
dimension of pressure on him. So I don't need him
to beat the Bears. I don't need him to be perfect,

(08:13):
but you got to pick up first downs on third
you can't have the giveaways. You got to get out
of the pre snap operational stuff. I said that about
Caleb Williams first three weeks. I'm like, you got to
get the operational stuff now, because I've just seen too
many quarterbacks with this coaching staff. I mean, this is
a good tool belt. This is a good tool belt.
I get Kevin O'Connell, a great left tackle, Justin Jefferson,

(08:34):
Jordan Addison and the Vikings. In the off season, they
spent money on the on line, the d line, the
running back room, and the secondary, and we just saw
him win what thirteen fourteen games last couple of years,
so everybody knows that can be done with this group
of guys that have all been upgraded in the off season,
So there's no question there's pressure. Here's Kevin O'Connell on
his young quarterback JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 6 (08:56):
Most importantly, what I look for is the the consistency
of being able to put some routine things in that
category of I can expect them every time and it
becomes second nature. And you know, sometimes when a guy's
making his third or fourth start now or fifth start
this week, it's a lot to ask in the midst

(09:17):
of games, especially how they've kind of played out. But
that doesn't change the fact that we're, you know, in
a business of you know, trying to go on and
know this week there's been a lot of encouraging things
to go along with some things that you know, we
we can improve on, and he knows that we know that.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Yeah, the false starts. Think they had seven or eight
penalties last week. It was ugly. That was like the
most in twenty five years. That was ugly. That's what
the road team is supposed to do in Minnesota. So
this is not a game I'm gonna pick. I'm gonna
watch it. It's a weird line to me. I think Chicago's
a better team. I also think Caleb Williams and Ben
feel like they get a field goal better every week.

(09:54):
They just get a little tighter every week. So I
don't I don't have a strong feel for it, but
I am. I'm fast descind by the JJ McCarthy angle
that I think is interesting. Former Bears coach Dave Wanstatt
joining us in studio.

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Speaker 1 (10:44):
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The Chicago Bears still beloved with a plumbers union in
town and every Italian joint. Dave Wanstatt joining me on studio.
The I mean, listen, you thought you were going to
go to Naples. You're going to be up here doing

(11:05):
Bear playoff shows for the next month. So the Caleb
Williams Things Somebody asked me today, and you know, a
fan of the Bears, what do you think of him?
I said, they are what they look like on TV.
They're good enough to beat average teams. Let's see if
they can beat good teams.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
But and you know you've been here, you've coached in
the NFL. They are getting better, like the operations are
cleaned up. And the one thing I'll say about there's
two things about Caleb coach. I always like he doesn't
get hurt. A lot of these young guys get banged out.
He doesn't get hurt, and he doesn't throw picks. What
do you see right on?

Speaker 7 (11:42):
I mean he's about two hundred and twenty five two
hundred and thirty pounds, so he does He's not the six'
Four Josh allen heythe, wise but he is physical runner like,
that so you're you're corrector he doesn't throw. Picks and you,
know the biggest improvement on This bear's football, team and
they have, improved is the offensive. Line this you, know
they signed three new, guys a, center two. Guards they

(12:04):
hasn't they have missed it. Down they've been healthy and
Obviously Donell wright is heading to the Pro, bowl they're right,
tackle and then they finally got a left, tackle you, know,
stabilized kind of. Stabilized so And ben will not hesitate
to bring in an extra lineman as a blocker in.
Situations he'll keep a tight ending if he has to

(12:25):
as a. Blocker so he's going to do the things
smart to.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Protection the question the offense is better With. Ben you
can see the coaching.

Speaker 7 (12:34):
Well AND i tell YOU i was thinking about this
up under, center up under the first two or three
passes in last week's, game up under, center back play
action pass and you, know so when your play action,
passes that's, timing so.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
The ball is going to come out. Quicker you don't have.

Speaker 7 (12:53):
To stand back there and try and find your, first,
second third. Receiver so the things he does with the
quarterback and the running game don't lose. SIGHT i mean
last week Dere swift had thirteen. Carries Kal, manonga the
rookie from what seventh rounder coach seven carries last week,
Too so they have evolved their running game from just

(13:13):
a wide stretch play the outside. Zone so they're running
Some Don hill stuff, now which is manong guy.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
What he's so using their tight end better the kid
From michigan. Better, Yeah i'll argue all. DAY i like their.
PERSONNEL i think they got more talent on offense than.
DEFENSE i think if you took their ten best, players
eight are offensive. Guys BUT i don't know if they're
an elite. Team But i've watched them. Now they feel
like a playoff.

Speaker 7 (13:39):
Team, yeah this is a huge game for them this.
Week you, know going To, Minnesota minnesota. Physical on the first,
time they couldn't get the running game. Going you, know
so this game, HERE i think with a, variation the
offensive line is better in the running. Game this is
gonna be a little different. Game but this is the
real this is the this is the test this.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Week SO i Love Mike. Drabel everybody's, saying, well who
gets more? Credit vrabel Or drake May AND i said to,
me in THE, nfl winning and losing games comes down
to about seven plays by a. Quarterback they may be pre,
snap a sideline. Throw last night he had a jump,
pass a big throw. Down the scene is that there's
and that's the difference Between Andy reid And philly And
Andy reid In Kansas. City it's not fifty, plays it's

(14:19):
seven By mahomes and he's so good in big. MOMENTS
i Watched Drake MAY i mean on first down he's
completing seventy eight percent of his. Throws they're never behind the,
change it's always second and. Four they look pretty well.
Oiled to, ME i don't think it's a. Mirage this
looks like a really elite, team.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
You know WHAT i. Think And Mike vrabel number.

Speaker 7 (14:41):
One obviously he's had, success so he had a.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
Blueprint we know. That but he brings In josh.

Speaker 7 (14:47):
McDaniels, Okay And josh McDaniels is a guy that you
don't have to coach your. Coaches rabel and him were.
Together they work. Together they if somebody jumps off, side
they both know how the other side is going to.
Respond and when you can hire guys that you, KNOW
i did that With jimmy brought us all From. Miami

(15:08):
we've all we were all. Together if you don't have
to waste time coaching coaches on how you want to
run a operation and what's important to you and what's
the point of, emphasis you can make a lot of
progress and don't.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
Lose and then you walk in.

Speaker 7 (15:23):
And you've got five or six how many they got these,
things Super bowl, rings instant. Credibility so bravebel brings instant.
Credibility he brings coaches that you don't have to waste
time coaching. Coaches and the third, thing they did hit
on these draft, picks, RIGHT i Mean.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
An henderson is the real.

Speaker 7 (15:40):
Deal henderson is the real. Deal obviously You campbell the left.
Tackle campbell is the real. Deal if people at him
is the first offensive. Tackle and then they Hit Drake,
mayson they have hit on their draft.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
Picks in addition to, it.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
We were talking About seattle playing The rams probably the
best game of the, year you, Know John's night or
THE gm wanted everybody wants their, McVeigh AND i would
argue they found. Him he's just a defensive. Coach is
that he took That Pete carroll defense and next year
they were noticeably. Better another draft, class now they're even.
Better they got four or five guys rotating up. Front

(16:15):
they just that it's a bunch of it could Be,
murphy it can Be DeMarcus. Lawrence it's a bunch of different.
Guys they're not depending on like A bosa or A
Khalil mack or a Von. Miller what do you make
of the defense and what he's, Doing, WELL i love.

Speaker 7 (16:30):
It it's a style THAT i ran EVERYWHERE i. Coached,
okay we were they're blitzing right. Now, first let's go
back before he got That seattle. Job when he was
At baltimore as the, coordinator they were, first, second or
third every year that he was there in, Defense so
he he obviously had a foundation for what he wanted to.
Do and you know what's amazing when he gets the.

(16:52):
Job WHEN i first got The bears, JOB i went
out and played golf with Coach, No Chuck, no and
on every WHOLE i was asking him a. Question and
at the end of the day we were sitting there
having a beer and he, said you, know keep this in.
Mind why did you get this? Job AND i, said
because of my defensive. Expertise and he, said when you
go in, there there's.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
Going to be a lot of holes in the.

Speaker 7 (17:14):
Damn the first thing you, do you spend time and
get the defense.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Right, now get your side.

Speaker 7 (17:21):
Right it's your side right why you were. Hired and
that's What mike has. Done and people talk about him not.
PRESSURING i used to have a guy in the press.
BOX i was only pressuring twelve percent of the. Time
he's around fifteen. Percent BUT i used to have a
coach tell me it's time to, blitz just to keep
the offense honest so they know that you had. Some
and we get into the Super, bowl that First Super,

(17:42):
bowl and it was the same. Thing the coach. Said
my young guy was saying, me, coach you having. Blitzed
you're having. Blitzed AND i, said, well, okay AND i
call a blitz that we ran the first game of the,
season nothing. New we just ran one all year and
it in Sack Jim. Kelly so my point was THAT

(18:03):
i really appreciate what he's, done and you Can you
can do it a lot of different. Ways you might
get somebody up here it's a blitzmaniac and he's going
to see it completely. Different you can win and win
Super bowls doing a lot of different.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
Ways So i'm.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Not a fan of firing coaches mid. Season Brian dable
And Jackson dark got along. Great what's gonna happen Is
kafka is not, Explosive so the media is gonna like,
him the player is gonna like. HIM i call it
the substitute teacher. Rule everybody loves, him, Right but what happens,
is if you look at The giant schedule at the
end of the, year a lot of winnable, games you
go in a three game winning. Streak the players like,

(18:39):
you the media likes. You Jackson darts like mans guy
played in THE. NFL i like, him and then you're
stuck hiring the interim. GUY i Like mike McCarthy BECAUSE
i think he's a PROVEN i said this About New
York Joe, tory Pat Riley, Tibbs Bill, Parcells. COUGHLIN i
don't like. INTERER i don't want interim guys getting, jobs

(19:01):
coordinators In New york getting. Jobs what do you make
about how they're dealing with it With, kafka the interim And.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
Dabule, YEAH i Like mike. McCarthy i'd love to see.
Him mike get that. Job where's he.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
From chicago's, Well pittsburgh, Guy pittsburgh.

Speaker 7 (19:16):
Guy, No but, seriously michauld do a fantastic job. There but,
yeah you're, correct because what happens is the guy takes.
Over he wants him to play. Hard he's, saying oh,
No i'm just the. Inner deep, down he wants a
curse he's going to eliminate no more.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
Equipment no Pas, No i'm. Serious you, know, no pet
what do you? Got dress code's?

Speaker 7 (19:35):
Gone forget The, no there's no dress code.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
ANYMORE i love them. Coach everybody.

Speaker 7 (19:40):
Looks But i'll tell you what it does. Do it
kind of GIVES i guess you more. Time it gives
a general manager. Owner even though there's rules in the
contract you can't talk to people. FORMALLY i get, that
but we all know that people were talking behind the
scenes to. Agents if you want a college, COACH i
mean that maybe It's Lane kiffen they're interested.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
IN i Think lane would do a great.

Speaker 7 (20:04):
Job they get the agent to Call lane's guy and
just just to find out.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
Would you be? Interested and if he says absolutely, not
then they won't waste time on. Him so it does
give you a little bit of a jump that.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Way, YEAH i want to ask you about because you
do a lot of college, football AND i Thought mendoza
last week kind of separated from all the other. QUARTERBACKS
i Like dante, more but he's twenty and When Sam
darnold came To New york at twenty, one he was too.
YOUNG a twenty's too young to play in THE. Nfl
SO i Like mendoz's twenty, two he's going to be twenty,
three six,' five he's got a. BIG arm i Thought
That Penn state road win the way he was throwing.

(20:38):
Balls down BUT if i told. You so we had
a list earlier today of the teams that have to
draft a quarterback with their. First pick there's about five
and four others that should consider drafting, a quarterback maybe
second or. Third pick but Like, The rams, stafford's old
maybe your second or, third pick go. Get somebody would
you Take A mac jones who's had a hell of

(20:58):
a Year In. San francisco you can him for A
Very baker mayfield. Level price or go with. A rookie
if If, you're cleveland, For, instance stefanski who's got a really,
good defense You're. Bringing mack he's not gonna not gonna
make a lot. Of turnovers he's SEEN every. Nfl DEFENSE
and i look at all these TEAMS and, i, think
Well If dante more didn't, come Out if Sellers In,

(21:18):
south CAROLINA who, i like doesn't, come out would you
go with the Rookie Or?

Speaker 4 (21:22):
Mac?

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Jones wow you.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
KNOW what i?

Speaker 7 (21:27):
Would have i'm going to be honest, WITH you i
would have to really deep dive into. These guys mendoza
is a GUY that i think because. OF maturity i
think the quarterback position that's What Held San donald sam
should have stayed THERE in usc is. A kid he was,
A KID so i think maturity at the quarterback position
has a lot to do.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
WITH it a lot of these guys that are talking
about these.

Speaker 7 (21:51):
Quarterbacks are, just juniors, transfer guys one year wonder. Type
guys you know you'd like to see a little bit
of history.

Speaker 4 (21:59):
ABOUT him i might GO.

Speaker 7 (22:00):
With matc jones or to be honest, with you JUST
because I know i Know what. I'm, GETTING yes i
Know what i'm getting as compared to taking a chance
on a first round pick and.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Losing It dave wanstad IS joining us thirty nine. Seasons
coaching let's go back TO. The nfl it used to
be that you gave quarterbacks. Three years. That's over now
these college kids they got private coaches seven on. SEVEN
summer i, Always say thanksgiving, year two you AND the
gm got to go, upstairs quietly privately and make. A

(22:33):
DECISION so jj McCarthy. Has struggled he's been very good,
on script pretty bad. Off it my, take is just
give me the rest of. The starts he was hurt.
Last year if you're in, that ROOM you're, Jj McCarthy
you One With, sam darnold you One With, kirk Cousins Hell,
josh dobbs without a, Practice one you've got A good
you've got a. Good roster what do? You what What

(22:55):
does kevin O'Connell or you would you need to see
the rest of the way, to, go, oh hey we're
not going to draft. The quarterback he's.

Speaker 7 (23:01):
The guy this is HIS fourth, nfl, start right we
all know that fourth start coming up this week Against.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
The Bears and I'M a, Jj fan.

Speaker 7 (23:12):
I'm a fan, of HIS and i would go back
to he's a.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
Young quarterback WHAT can i do to? HELP him i
just think that they got to. Do more you see
What the bears.

Speaker 7 (23:25):
Are Doing the bears are up, Under center they're going play,
Action pass they're running, the ball and then a lot
of k the touchdown to win, The Game.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
Caleb williams that was a fake run or.

Speaker 7 (23:37):
Pass option player running, pass option the tight end.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
And receiver coming across.

Speaker 7 (23:42):
The field, You Know cole comett made a Great block
my point is JJ's a good enough athlete that you
can do. Some things in, MY opinion i would to
protect him a little. BIT more, i mean you got
to try to keep him out of harm's way until
he gained, some confidence because, RIGHT now i mean.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
He didn't have. Any confidence he got no comp coach.

Speaker 7 (24:02):
From you complete forty percent of your passes in the
second half or whatever he did, last week that doesn't
give you.

Speaker 4 (24:08):
MUCH confidence i don't care what you say at the.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Press conference is there a, team like, For Instance. SEATTLE
rams i Actually like seattle better. Special teams they run
the ball. Really consistently they are a great. Road, teams
strangely is there a do you have a feel? ON
that i think it's The best fox game in the
best game of, The Year. Seattle rams what's your gut?

Speaker 3 (24:28):
On?

Speaker 4 (24:28):
THAT wow I just i kind of Liked.

Speaker 7 (24:34):
The RAMS because i Think the rams are a little more.
Complete teams, They're, older yeah, they're older but we're talking about, one, game,
right right one game for?

Speaker 4 (24:42):
Three hours who for? THREE hours i Like?

Speaker 7 (24:46):
The, rams young, aggressive, defense okay and obviously they got
the quarterback and the Exploded OF so i Like.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
THE rams i just think they're more.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Complete, TEAMS yeah, i mean it's hard to argue they've
been using three. Tight ends in the middle of, a
season they change. Their offense it's. Very impressive so, right
now You Had charles Haley in dallas and he could
be a. Little disruptive So in philadelphia THEY Have. Aj

(25:15):
brown he wants, the ball and just Like, with haley
you were winning games and that mostly. Soothes friction what
do you do when you have a GREAT Player, Aj Brown,
charles haley they're a little disruptive and. They're verbal. You're
winning but a coach told me this. Years ago the

(25:39):
only thing that gets in the way of a great roster,
is cluster injuries. Or drama. Nothing else you can even
be average. At quarterback you'll. Win games what do you
DO With?

Speaker 7 (25:48):
Aj brown the quickest way to be defeated is to, be,
distracted right and you got to just.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
BE careful i. DON'T know i think they're doing the.
Right thing, you know they they know how good.

Speaker 7 (26:02):
HE is i think he. Likes winning he just wants.
THE ball, I mean I would i would love to
know what the con one on one conversations Are Between
nick Sirianni and Aj bront, YOU know i think it
comes down to sitting down and just having all you
sit Down, With haley, oh god yes.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
You.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
Did yeah he threatened to beat me up a.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Couple, of TIMES but i. Said NO but, I Did.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
Oh charles, EVERY day i would.

Speaker 7 (26:27):
Go out of my way to try to talk, with him,
you know and just and just have a relationship. WITH
him i think that goes a. Long Way and i'm
Sure that, NICK does, I assume i assume. He DOES
but i think that's the. Best way and then other
guys on, the team, you know what's the relationship with
other players on, the team which, you know with with.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
The player.

Speaker 7 (26:49):
YOU know i had a Couple Of tony casias and
a couple of defensive linemen that were, vetteran guys big,
time players and uh and they would.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
Talk, with charles.

Speaker 7 (26:57):
You know And UH so i think communication in that
situation is the number.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
One key there's.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Never a perfect. Locker, room no Even the cowboys when
you Were winning.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
Super bowls, oh, god no are you kidding? Me right,
oh no. There's not.

Speaker 7 (27:15):
There's not and as long as guys are working hard
and showing up. On, time now this carries over to
practice or it carries over.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
To meetings then you got To pro you.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Ever have a great player who was a bad, Practice, player.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
No not a few guys that at the end of the.

Speaker 7 (27:32):
Your CAREERS when i was At the bears my, First
Year Richard dent Hall. Of, fame, Yeah right richard came
out and he wanted. To play he played, another year
did a.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
Fabulous job, for me five.

Speaker 7 (27:43):
Fabulous job but he, you know he was just an
older guy and his being able to run and do.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
The things he coming in and just SAY can i
get a few of?

Speaker 4 (27:52):
These, OFF no i. JUST didn't i just said take some. Place.
Off now the friends came to me the FIRST practice. I,
ever wait now think. Of this i'm the.

Speaker 7 (28:00):
First time, head coach and we go Out, To mesa
arizona to get out of the WEATHER because i wanted
to evaluate the team before. The DRAFT and, i, said
guys AFTER we i told me, a thing after we
stretch it and it comes are in the spring training thousands.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
Of people right now, Out there.

Speaker 7 (28:18):
Chicago fans so this is important to get off on
the right fort your. First TIME and, i said after
we kind of talked, to you we're going to run
a half a lap and go to. Our drills so we.
DO it i blow. The whistle everybody takes. Off Running
the fridge starts walking over to. THE bicycles, I, said fridge,
COME on, i said we got to take. A lap
he looks. At me, He, SAYS coach i can't. Run

(28:39):
ANYMORE and, i said you can't. RUN anymore, i, said
well we'll go over run the bikes and we'll talk
about this when we. Get HOME so i call IN and, I,
said fridz this isn't going. To WORK and, i said
if you can't run in, our scheme, he, Says, well
coach YOU know i got.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
TO work i need a job on the House In.

Speaker 7 (29:00):
South CAROLINA and, I said i'll tell you what, back
then if you stayed, eight weeks you got your.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
Full salary is a coach is a. Player TEAM so,
I said i'll be. Right back.

Speaker 7 (29:11):
Don't MOVE so i get hunting mccaskey's OFFICE and, i
said we got to Keep. The fridge i'm going to
keep him eight weeks and, one, day okay but he
needs to be on.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
This team he will.

Speaker 7 (29:21):
Help us so, mccaskie, said fine if that's what you want.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
TO do i.

Speaker 7 (29:26):
GO back I said fridge eight weeks and. One DAY
but i need you as a short. YARDAGE guy i
need you to help the young. Players coach i'll do whatever.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
You need and he.

Speaker 7 (29:36):
Was fantastic we kept him eight weeks and.

Speaker 4 (29:38):
One day it. Was, Unbelievable yeah SO did i ever
have a player that? Couldn't? Run yes answer, Your.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Question Uh dave. Von's dead Nobody better jmack around. The
corner It's.

Speaker 5 (29:49):
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Speaker 3 (30:06):
The Fox SUPER Six nfl challenge Download The fox sports
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which qb will have the most Passing Yards, Patrick Mahomes, Jordan.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Love caleb Williams Or Michael. Pennix junior who You Got
Coward jordan love Against the. GIANTS rebounds i don't Think.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
The giants the Times the giants run defense is the
worst in, the league so this should Be a jacob's.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Heavy GAME and i Also thinks giants won't. Extend drives they.
Don't have they're on their, Third Quarterback. Jamis winston what
are you?

Speaker 4 (30:49):
Talking?

Speaker 1 (30:50):
About, hell well, All right jmack with. The news turn on.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
The news this is The Third. Line news.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
All right you'd like some good new head, Coaching odds
so we Got The New. York, Giants Obviously brian dable
was canned earlier. THIS week i saw a report he
may Surface At. Penn state that's. Super, spicy however what
Are the giants? Gonna Do Gm, joe shane who somehow
magically kept. His job, you know he's got a tough decision.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
To make and we've got.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
Some odds according To a, Giants Legend, tiki barber he
thinks That the giants should go instead of going after
a young stud there's a name that's very obvious that
YOU and i have mentioned here on.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
The show as MUCH as.

Speaker 5 (31:34):
I would love to go the young whipper snapper who's
going to be an, OFFENSIVE genius i do think that
they need someone who's done.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
It before and the obvious Answer is. Mike McCarthy THAT'S
who i think it's going. To, be yeah he must
be watching.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
THE show, i, MEAN heck i mentioned him Like in
september When the jets were zero. And four here's the.
WEIRD thing i don't know That the giants job is, That.
ATTRACTIVE colin i, mean again We're Talking, jackson dart a
LAME duck gm skill.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Position, PLAYERS eh i.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Don't know they current odds have McCarthy at plus. SEVEN
hundred i would Take the giants job Over the jets
JOB because I Have abdul Carter and Scataboo And, Jackson
Dart andrew thomas.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
And Neighbors the jets just gave up their two.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
Best players they've got a billion draft picks at the
top of the draft the next.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Five years they haven't shown an ability to hit. On,
those well that's what the new coach. Can, Do hey,
I'M here i know what's.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Going on, you, know listen if they reach out to
me for advice on this One, THE jets i will
chime in and let.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
THEM know.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
I don't I just i Think the jets job is
better Than. THE giants i don't see McCarthy. Taking this
who's your. Backup option let's say, McCarthy, says no, THANK you.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
I Take the. JETS job i got to Deal With
drake May And josh allen for the.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
NEXT decade i gotta Do With jalen Hurts And jayden
Daniels And.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Dak, Prescott yeah i'll take that every day of. The
Week josh allen's the most talented quarterback in. The league second?
Or Third maybe Drake may no fankh?

Speaker 4 (33:06):
My?

Speaker 1 (33:06):
God second second?

Speaker 4 (33:08):
Or Third?

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Patrick mahomes can? We check is? He Breathing Is aaron
glenn who can't even figure? Out defense is he going
to be some? Draft maven he can't even figure out
his side of. The ball they had one takeaway.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
All year he Was in detroit when they drafted all
these good players and now have. A juggernaut have? Some
faith give me a spicy Name. For giants come on outside, The,
box kim what do?

Speaker 4 (33:30):
You got?

Speaker 1 (33:31):
It's real mike McCarthy's These If i'm, MIKE McCarthy i Take.
THE giants I Got. JACKSON dart i got no idea
Who the jets. QUARTERBACK is i Think the giants. JOB
is i don't think it.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
WAS close i like a blank Slate Over. Jackson dart,
all right let's move on To The. Detroit lions We
Love dan campbell on. This show Listen Man jared goff
seventy four percent completions. Twenty touchdowns campbell has taken over
play calling and was Asked if goff is playing the
best football OF his.

Speaker 8 (34:01):
I just feel like he's gotten better.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
Every year.

Speaker 8 (34:04):
THAT'S me, i, mean, SO yeah i guess answer.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
That, QUESTION yes.

Speaker 8 (34:07):
I do i think he's he's settled into his own
to where he's, you know he's he just continues to
take it another notch and, you know and just continues to.
Get better, it's unbelievable you Know what he's able, to,
grasp retain get us into the, right play and we
literally just gave it.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
To him you don't have time.

Speaker 8 (34:27):
To digest you're running out on the field and now
you're going. Through it he's not a guy who's going
to be able to, You know He's Not.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Lamar, jackson, yeah listen that's that's a. Trading insight He's not. Lamar,
jacks well he's gonna it's gonna be a great. STANDALONE
game i think we Both. Like philadelphia but you got
to say This About. Dan campbell from the, very beginning
there were Two Things dan campbell did to create. The
culture first, of all they went for it on fourth
down at an. Absurd rate like they went for, it

(34:56):
constantly sometimes to their peril. Their demise so he basically his,
Identity was we're going to be. Crazy aggressive the second
thing was the team played. So hard That's what i'm
Saying is dan doesn't have to be a. Scheme guru
what he's done and what. He's shown harbaugh's, Done It
John jim vrabel build. A Culture the lions have, an

(35:21):
identity and that has to me when you have a
two game losing streak or you kind of lose. Your
way that's my knock On. GREEN bay I know matt,
lafleurre smart what's. THEIR identity i don't Know What green bay's, Identity.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
Is so just to reambat rewind and turn back. The
Clock dan campbell first year three, and thirteen.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
That's right but wildly aggressive and played their butt off
six to one possession losses with a atrocious defense. They
PLAYED so i remember saying on, THE air i Don't
think i've ever seen a bad team play this hard
for the.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
Entire season and then the next season they started at one,
in six, remember it he was like on the, hot
seat and then they peeled off a bunch of. Late
wins so we gotta have Patients or campbell would be
on the street if they fired him after a year and.
A half we got to have. SOME patients i, YOU
know I think campbe's turned. IT around i was wrong.
About him ALTHOUGH if i, asked you Will the lions
get To A super Bowl With dan campbell's, head coach

(36:13):
you would.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
Say coin flip fifty? TO fifty i need a yes
or No cone i'd say odds or no because of
everybody else IN. The NFC but i think they've GOT
a i think They're they've they're one of six TEAMS
that i would say is at least fifty To Fifty, Seattle,
Rams Detroit. PHILADELPHIA packers i don't know what they are.

(36:34):
RIGHT now i don't LOVE what.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
I see, oh dear, all right, Final story let's go TO.
The nba we haven't talked IN the. Nba yet how about.
This Story steph curry And. Under armour the marriage. Is
over they have mutually agreed to end their partnership after.
Thirteen Years the curry brand will. Branch Off the curry
brand is, STRONG man i Mean Because steph curry one
of the strongest brands in.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
INDIVIDUAL sports, i mean AS an. Nba player do you.

Speaker 8 (36:56):
Have any of?

Speaker 4 (36:57):
His?

Speaker 1 (36:57):
SHOES yeah i have his first.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
Pair the, you know The the, Curry ones remember the
ones that everybody made.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
FUN of I don't i don't. Really care I'm a.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Curry fan you know WHAT do i care if people don't.
LIKE them i don't care what the. MASSES think i
Like the. Curry brand i'm all In on CURRY and
i will continue to support Him under armour's shares have
fallen significant this, year now everything outside of this magnificent
ten is down in the stock market, SO.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Well, i mean in the, shoe space having a, CELEBRITY
matters i mean.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
IT does i mean he hasn't moved shoes Like like Lebron,
or jordan.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
But, trim woman But gronkhead Wolf and shepherd and you've
had Guys. At nike the reality is in, that space the.
Shoe space athletes work because a lot of shoe buying,
is cool, what's cool, what's hot and. That MATTERS like
mj is still Cooler. Than, lebron Yeah like Lebron's not
lebron's not. Considered cool, Lebron's great, michael's Cool, The lake kobe.

(37:53):
Was cool you know who moves shoes IN. The Nba
jah morant. Move, shoes, yeah yeah?

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Where's He so curry's more of a, Nice brand like
your mom, knows him your grandma Might Know.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Jeph Curry john moran's cool among. The Kids what's curry's? Big,
shoe like what? Was his he hasn't.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Had one he's not moving.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Merch shoes but does?

Speaker 5 (38:11):
It?

Speaker 1 (38:11):
MATTER no, I mean I think i'm not a big
fan of the. COOL athletes i like the, mature Guys
and curry's have grown up all. The wins give me
wins Over. AND lebron i don't think. IT'S cool i think.
HE'S great i think he's. Pretty Mature michael jordan had
an edge and it was a. Different time but there
there are certain players that you understand why they. Sell

(38:32):
shoes but here's the.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
Weird, thing, nobody well not many People Wear michael jordan's
shoes to. Play basketball they're more cool, because they're, you
know forty fifty.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Years, old like what shoes do you wear when you?
PLAY basketball i don't. Play basketball i'm.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
JUST kidding i.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
Live, Waves yeah I'm A dwayne. Wade guy his shoes
are just. SUPER comfortable i.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
Like him what company does. HE have i think. It's
leaning It's an.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Asian, company yeah BUT there i just GO for i
don't go.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
FOR cool i used To Wear Dame Lillard's.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
CARMELO anthony's i wear whatever feels great on these puppies
because these dogs.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Are, BARKING Okay j mack with.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
The news well that's, the news and thanks for stopping
back The Herd. Line news.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
It's an interesting week in. College football i'm Gonna take Georgia,
Over texas Alabama over oklahoma in. The rain I'LL take
usc To. Beat iowa i'm not Sure if iowa can
throw the ball down the field score. ENOUGH points i
think they're, all close competitive games IN. The nfl let's
put up, the schedule our week. ELEVEN schedule i think
it's a probably the best week of. THE year I,

(39:42):
Think Denver, Kansas, City, detroit Philadelphia. RAM seattle i Actually
Think chicago vikings is really. REALLY good i think it's
an excellent WEEK of. NFL games i think THE numbers
i already have my blazing. FIVE picks i think the
numbers are. Pretty interesting even the Games Like baltimore cleveland
you don't think is going to. Be good keep your

(40:02):
Eye on Cleveland giving. Baltimore trouble it's a huge game
For the Chargers. AT jacksonville i stayed away from. THAT
game i think the. NUMBERS right i think the one
GAME that i look at that if it's, an upset
we're going to have a massive inferno on. Our Hands
if baker In the bucks can go to Cold weather buffalo,

(40:23):
and Win the sean McDermott hot seat gets. Ratcheted up
that one is a really. INTERESTING game I. LIKE buffalo
i think. It's comfortable LAST week i read two different
players complained about the Heat. In miami they don't practice,
in it they weren't prepared. For it, that one that's

(40:44):
a game that may end up being, a Blowout and.
Buffalo controls but all these games on, the board if
you had an UPSET none i, mean Again if, baltimore
loss obviously it would be. Somewhat Shocking if baker Can,
beat buffalo you're gonna have we got may major Heat on.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
Sean, McDermott well we have this game. IN headlines i
just looked up the. Weather report windy mile, an hour
forty mile an hour wins colin rain. And snow temperatures in.
The thirties THAT'S why. I like THAT'S why I. Like
buffalo buffalo's the number one. Rush Team, James Cook bucky irvin.
Still Hurt so buffalo is built The old buffalo. Teams

(41:21):
Weren't this buffalo team is built for. Crappy weather they're
just Gonna Run james cook twenty, six times.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Real Quick steelers.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
Bengals anything you haven't really touched that game This week
bengals off.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
Of bye it was one of THE games i considered.
DIDN'T take I think. PITTSBURGH wins i don't trust, their
OFFENSE but i think they win. Semi. Comfortably yep she
Works For Barstool. College Football Casey smith rockstar gonna be
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