October 20, 2023 • 45 mins
Fox Sports football analyst Brock Huard joins the show in studio to discuss the Harbaugh allegations and Russell Wilson's struggles with the Broncos
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Ah, here we go, our three live in Los Angeles.
It's the Hurt wherever you may be, however you may
be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day.
Big story today in our show, We've got a lot
of NFL stuff this hour, Little college football, a lot
of NFL stuff with that whole Michigan stealing signals from
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Big ten rivals. Now, I feel it's like jealousy and envy.
I think it's low level stuff. In fact, it was
legal until nineteen ninety four, when the NCAA basically said,
we don't think it's fair. Rich teams can do it,
and the teams that aren't as rich. Purdue couldn't do it,
but Michigan could afford it, and it was a staffing issue.
It wasn't like they thought it meant anything. It wasn't
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because oh, it's changing outcomes. Stealing signs in baseball is
not changing outcomes of games. What a shock. The Astros
and the Phillies are again rolling. Everybody's stealing signs. So
I don't think it matters. I think everybody's stealing signs
to some degree. I mean, in baseball, that's what you
do all night, steal signs. It's funny. The Astros are
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really good again. The Mets aren't. The Braves are the Dodgers. Word.
It's the same teams every year. Who's got better players.
Michigan's gonna thump virtually everybody they play this year not
named Georgia, Texas, Washington, Oregon, Ohio State. They're gonna thump
everybody got twenty two guys drafted.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Unless, of course, the Houston Astros are cheating again.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Well, we don't know. They just have.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
An accusation that just rings hollow with me. So and
I'm not listen. I'm not a do gooder in society.
I try to do right. I have values in morals,
but I'm listen. Have I ever written off a glass
of wine that probably wasn't a business opportunity. I'm not
saying I did, but it's possible. It's all I'm saying.
Everybody's you know, everybody gets on their high horse stealing signals.
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Everybody's coke, Pepsi. There are everybody's got people. We have
our government has discovered our spies giving stuff to Russia.
It's everybody get We got a thousand people in Russia.
They got a thousand people over here. That's the world
we live in. Technology, information, power, leverage, money. It happens.
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Michigan State's like, oh, we're not gonna play like like
Michigan State can take the high horse on anything. Slow
down a little bit, all right. One of my favorite
guests played in the NFL. He was back up to
Peyton Manning for years. Washington Huskies can talk. NFL knows
this stuff. College football. Doing the usc Utah game this
weekend brought Hwared Fox Sports, who we never ever get
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in studio ever, So how lucky are we also a
popular talk show host in Seattle. So let's start with this.
Let's do some college football to start. Okay, you live
in Denver. You have Denver stuff, by the way, Geno
Smith stuff, So sign stealing. Are you outraged?
Speaker 5 (03:22):
No? No, no, I think that is totally on you.
If you and I think there's probably a few people
watching right now that could connect maybe a few dots.
Bruce Felman wrote an amazing piece about this years ago.
You know, I don't know if you've seen that, but
Bruce wrote and just a deep dive, and I remember.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
Sharing with Bruce. It's probably two or three years.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Ago, and I'm like, oh, I don't know if I
want to share all this stuff. Right, it's one of
those just kind of unwritten, you don't know story. Oh
do I have a story? I mean, I played for
the greatest sign stealer that ever lived. I can't say
that Colin. I can't say who it is.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Is he a player?
Speaker 5 (03:58):
No? No, he wasn't a player. He was in the organ.
He was unbelievable. He was a unibomber and he would
spend time talking to his plants and he figured it out.
And he was the only place College pro is only
only one place in all of my years where I
was like, Wow, this guy can really do it. And
he's doing what everyone was doing, and that is you
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go to the opposing field and you watch the defensive
coordinator and you write it all down and then it's
like code.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
Right.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
So I have all these signals, right, so when he
does this or this or any of the code, and
then I got to match it to the actual game tape,
and then I got to figure out what the actual
calls are, and then in real time, I got to
see what's actually going on. And then in real time
I got to communicate to the coordinator, who then's got
to communicate to the quarterback. I mean, there's so many avenues.
This isn't banging a drum for a baseball player, and like, oh, okay,
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or Altuve wearing whatever he was wearing to tell him,
you know, hey, if it beats once, it's a fastball twy, Like,
there are so many more mechanisms to make it happen
in a football game in real time. There was only
one place that could do it, and he did it unbelievable. Well,
but even with that, how many plays out of sixty
plays in a game?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Three?
Speaker 6 (05:04):
Uh yeah, maybe three?
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Maybe a blitz you know, maybe like okay, here comes
the blitz, so we could block the blitz up.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
And hit You got to get it through to the people. Yes, yes,
So let me ask you. One of the smartest players
in Lee history, and you're a sharpiest Peyton Manning. So
he was yelling omaha, did omaha mean something different every
week because he had to hide stuff.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Oh we had he had to constantly change everything up,
you know. And now he's gonna kill me for saying this,
but and this is the answer. The answer is just
simply to wear wristband, right, you know, for an offensive play,
just wear wristband. I know Russell didn't like wearing wrist bands,
but wear wristband. And guess what John Payton could go over,
you know, play two or you know play two, play five,
you know whatever. So there's no signals, it's all there
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and do it. And in fact, Peyton coaching his boy Marshall,
Marshall's doesn't have one wrist band. Marshall didn't have two
wrist bands. Marshall's got three wish wristbands cause you know,
thirteen to you you got to have one hundred plays, right,
So yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
Yeah, I'm like, how many plays are you guys running?
Speaker 5 (06:05):
You know, I kind of help coach my sod and
you know, we got like twenty five thirt He's like,
I we're up to about seventy five eight.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
I'm like, what how do you do that?
Speaker 5 (06:13):
How do you signal them in It's like, we don't
signal we wear wristbands. How do you get eighty plays on? Oh,
we don't wear one risk band, gotta wear two wristbands.
He's gotta wear three wristbands. So I'm not no, I'm
not outraged. Figure it out, change your signals, put on
a wristband. This was like the worst kept secret though
calling those of us in college football had heard rumblings
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of this Michigan or everywhere. No with Michigan heard people
rumbling about Michigan, rumbling about how well you know they're
doing things They've turned like, come on, you know what
they're doing. They hired a great young NFL decordinator, they
replaced him with another guy who's great, young, innovative, and they.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
Have a first round quarterback. It's not that hard. It's
not stealing signals. It's j. J.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
McCarthy and a great young defensive coordinator. Those two things
are why they're doing what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
In college football. You know this is a former Husky.
Don James starts the program in the seventies. They're good,
they dip in the eighties. Then he has to fire
friends on the staff and they become a powerhouse. USC.
You're doing the game against Utah. It is a big game, folks,
because Washington and Oregon are after it, and I don't
think USC matches up with either. This is must win.
Do you think there is? It's very hard, But do
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you believe that Lincoln Riley could And it's hard at
the college level. If they throw up a couple stinkers
here in the next three weeks, could he make those
brutal moves?
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Yeah, Loyalty is what you're talking about, right, and loyalty
with this whole coaching fraternity. I mean, Jimbo Fisher has
fired how many coaches in his whole life?
Speaker 6 (07:44):
One one? That's it.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
I mean, loyalty is a big deal to these guys.
And you know, you call it relationship and friendship and connection,
but loyalty is real and it's Yeah, it's very, very
difficult to make those moves. The challenge for me calling
when I watch USC's defense, though, Yeah, Alex Crinch sometimes
does too much, and guys are scrambling, and they're.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
A lot of blowne coverage, a lot of blown.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Coverages and just not on every detail. But they're small.
They're small, and that's what makes tomorrow night fascinating because Utah.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
Is big and our crew's got the good fortune. This
is the trilogy.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
We had both of them last year, the one in
Salt Lake, the championship game.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
We know it, We've seen it. I mean you big huge.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Is a rough matchup because they will not be able
to guard their receivers. Oregon couldn't with NFL corners and
Oregon is just a better tea and Oregon's big. Yes,
so those are bad matchups.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
If USC doesn't win here, we're talking four game losing streak.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Yeah, you got to get this one before any of
that happens. Now, they've got speed.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
You know, m cal may be in there somewhere.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
But yeah, Cal's in there too. But they've got a
This is a USC wants to make it like the clash,
you know, like the race car track at the Coliseum.
Turn left, but they also want to turn right, and
they just want to get on the racetrack. Utah wants
a cage match, and that's what they made it last year.
They just made it a brutal physical couldn't stop them,
couldn't tackle them, couldn't handle them. But this is also
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the one and Lincoln said it today. When we met
with him earlier today, he said, you know what, this
is the exact right opponent, coming off of Notre Dame,
coming off of that brutal loss, coming off of everything, Caleb,
all the noise like to get this opponent that beat
us twice last year. This is the right team at
the right time for us to really turn the page
and get after it.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
One more college before we go pro. Michael Pennix, I
saw him in person last weekend. I said, I don't
know what his comp is. Bo Nix was a little
Derek Carr. Michael Pennox felt like a very very big TUA, lefty,
soft touch, beautiful sideline thrower, has some injury history. But
I will say when I watched him live, there's a
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lot of wow. Is Washington with those receivers, that quarterback,
that coach, pro left tackle, couple edge rushers in the NFL.
Are they in National championship worthy team?
Speaker 6 (09:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Yeah, I think this year's fascinating college football. If we
had a twelve team playoff this year, I think you
would see the smallest betting lines between one, twelve, two eleven,
three ten that I can ever remember. Right, you want
to talk about what's parody and college football? And how
close are these teams? Honestly, if one versus twelve, now
that's Georgia Oregon State. But is that a thirty point spread?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Oh no, Oregon State's is it got game?
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Yes, in years past with Georgia and with Bama, and
they would have been twenty thirty forty point spreads one
verse twelve this year. I think there's about ten or
twelve teams in Washington's one of them. Now they don't
twenty three through fifty. Maybe they're not where some of
the others are one through twenty two. Callin, you saw him?
And by the way, do you know this? I mean,
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he just he's all in on Washington. Hey, it took
one trip to get you on.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
He starts saying, week, it took one.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Trip to get you an Usky stadium and feel it
like he used to feel it. Right, it's back. Kailn's
not lost there. Pennix hasn't lost at home. They'll get
Utah at home right now. They got to go to USC,
and they got to go to Oregon State. I think
they can.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Oregon State scares me. USC doesn't.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Yeah, I think they can still get to a playoff
with one loss, I think they can still take you
now when that loss is.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Thirty percent of NFL fans don't watch college football. If
you're an NFL fan, watch Washington. That is an NFL offense.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
It is three.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Two potential first round receivers. McMillan didn't play, and he's
there two. Polk's a three. He's a one at almost
every pack twelve school.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
They are really fun.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
And they're just pros.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Man. I went out and watched practice last week when
I was in town as well, and they just I
was like, man, this feels like an NFL operation. You know,
it's just the way they conduct their business a little
bit like Ohio State. So Ohio statelier this year, so
I'm Michigan earlier this year. Like, there's not that much
that separates them.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
Now.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Gosh, I really wish they had Vitavea. I really wish
he had Elijah.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Quah they don't.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
I really wish he had great gains.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
That's what they missed.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
Yeah, and sixteen they had those guys, right.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
They don't have that, yes, and that's what Oregon punished them.
Art center guard stuff. All right, let's go to the NFL.
You've done Seahawk games. You know, you're a talk show
host in Seattle. We were talking about this. I do something.
I do it about five times a year. I call
it a super Bowl bubble. The teams that I think
are truly viable now. In baseball, it's a salary thing.
Houston's got a lot of money. Dodgers do, Royals don't.
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In the NBA, it's a star driven thing. You know,
if you've got Lebron or Anthony Davis, you're in the bubble.
But in the NFL there's a lot of factors. But
it's becoming more like the other sports. Six No, seven
of the eight best quarterbacks in the division, six of
eight lead their division. Because I do through I think
Baker's more talented than Derek Carr and Josh Allen beat
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two ahead to head. I think they'll finish above only
the Niners with Brock Perty don't is that in college
football we've always understood the roster wins.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
The coach is the star. So I look at Seattle.
I love so many things about them, but I think
to myself, defensive colch Pete Geno Smith, Yep, how.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
Do you view Gino Yeah, it's it's tough. There's so
much to like. I really like Gino, But do I
love Gino?
Speaker 6 (13:13):
Right? I mean I think that's the question.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
And I think most SAK fans jenuine like like and
what he did last year is he won over so
many at every turn on the field off the field.
He was authentic, he was real. His teammates loved him
at every turn. He said, I'm a thumb guy. I'm
never pointing a finger. I'm a thumb guy. It's all
about me. Yeah, I mean there was calling it. Ever Honestly,
I don't think he could have done more last year.
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So you really like him, and they you know what,
they gave him a contract where they really like them,
but they didn't give him a love them contract. I mean,
it's a year to year, you know, like, you do
what you did and you top it, it will escalate
and you'll be here next year. But it wasn't like, hey,
I'm in love with you and I'm committed to you
and here's Daniel Jones money. It wasn't that at all.
So yeah, I think it is still a figuring out process.
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But I will say this, Colin, having watched them every
snap for the last fourteen years with Pete really closely.
Their defense is the best it's been since fifteen sixteen.
Speaker 6 (14:11):
Witherspoon is real.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Well, yeah, it's fast, young and fast.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
You've watched san Fran in the last two three years
and they just punish people, Like in the prime with
the Seahawks. I mean we would play ac DC on
Fridays before every game where the flagship station. It was like,
we may not win, but you are gonna get beat up,
like you're gonna deal with the Seahawks in thirteen and
fourteen and fifteen and sixteen and here comes Thunderstruck and
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Hell's bells.
Speaker 6 (14:37):
Her audience is just yeah, killing.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
Guys, you know, like it's so pumped up. And then
we tried to still do it in like seventeen and eighteen.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
A year older.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
We were like an old rock band like this is
just now, this doesn't feel right. And now it's like
whoa hold on a second. These dudes will hit you,
Chenna will hit you, Spoon will hit you. Bobby's coming downhill,
Jordan Brooks and I mean they got dudes Quandre Jamal
like they will come up now and yeah, they're not
quite where san Fran is defensively, but they've closed that
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gap a bunch a bunch and.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
They're cheaper than San franc They got decisions to make.
I want to talk about Denver. You live in Denver now,
which is a great American city. You can get anywhere
out of one of the great airports in America has
brought and I discussed airports are underrated. It's a weird situation.
It's not unprecedented. Rams signed Golf to a big deal
twenty nineteen. Starts in twenty twenty one. They moved off
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him before it started, so they had to pay Golf
and Stafford gave up draft picks and won a Super Bowl.
There's a feeling in Denver like, hey, Drake May Caleb,
the only way to get out of this is just
pick a quarterback or Panix? Does it? You live there?
What does it feel like from the fans the media?
Speaker 5 (15:52):
Yeah, it's trending that way, It really is. And I
heard the clip last hour you played a Sheriff Schlaret
where he said he would be Shore if Russell was
a guy next year. You feel that because with Golf, though,
it was even tougher to do because how old was
Jared when they moved off Jared Young young, so that
was even more doubly difficult. Not only did they have
a contract, but he was a young, still ascending Russell
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just at this age and stage, is just not.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
That I don't see the juice. Yes, it's not like
I'm like he's terrible, but I know who the top.
I watched Lamar Jalen Mahomes Herbert Lawrence last night. There's
a juice. Yes, that comes through the television. Yes, I don't.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
See No, Nope, it's a juice. And it's also that
just explosive fiber. I mean, Russell was a wizard, a wizard.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
For a long time.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
He was so much fun for us to watch.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
And I mean at any time, he was gonna make
something happen, no matter what the circumstances were. And yeah,
last year certainly went a totally different direction. This year
it is just you just don't see. And ultimately, you know,
I know there was all sorts of drama and he said,
and she said, and this and that when it came
to Seattle and Russell in the end, but ultimately John
Schneider just looked at that and said, we got the
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best of us. You know that ten years we had
that was the best of us. The next five to
ten are not going to be the best of us.
And let somebody else try to figure that out. And
that's somebody else's Denver And yeah, come March, you're going
to have to make a decision because in March two
years of his deal guarantees. So they've got to make
a decision in March of this year, not for one year,
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but for two years of guarantees. Hard to imagine they
can say yes to that.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Brock Purdy seventh rounders, So you were a third round pick,
and there's a reason you're tall. I mean I'm tall.
You're significantly taller than me. You were a high school
All American, a college All American. And then there's Brock
Purdy who plays at Iowa State. And one of the
first signs that he's much better than we think is
that Alha Iowa State has a very good coach. Yep,
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And for four years they were viable, yes, and with
a good coach went into the ABYSS an hour after
he left, and it's like, oh wait a minute, Yep,
he's special. Have we just we saw it with Mark
Brunel Ye Romo, Kurt Warner under draft. You played in
the NFL with a guy I guarantee you that was
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a six or seventh round or third practice proc you went,
whoa that edge guy is gonna start? Was he just?
Is he an elite talent or a good player with
great around?
Speaker 6 (18:26):
Yeah, well he's got the best around college games?
Speaker 5 (18:29):
I did so. Yes, So you met Bo. My college
producers here with me today. And Bo's probably chuckling watching
this because we had him a bunch on the road, right.
We didn't get up to Ames until his last year.
We got up to Ames and I got to watch
him in practice, and I'm like, this guy's built like
J Mack. I mean, no offense J Mack, but this
guy's like I don't get it. I don't see it.
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He's got short arms, he's got small hands, he's got
like I'm not saying you have small hands. I'm like,
there you go. So you don't have you don't have.
He got like just everything about him is like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
It looks like a seventh round quarterback.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
He looks like a seventh round or undrafted quarterback. Like
it's just he is.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
And I didn't think that. I said, my god, this
guy has maximized any gift he's got.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
That's what you saw I did.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
I was like, this guy to do what he's doing,
to play the game at the level he is, to
elevate Iowa State, to produce the way he is. I mean,
he has not been gifted the height, the length, the leverage, anything,
and yet that dude just goes out there and he
just balls. It was also funny Colin because at Iowa
State he used very worn footballs and he was constantly
looking at his finger and I'm like, ah, I don't know, man,
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Like he's got just tiny hands, Like something just doesn't
feel right right, doesn't look right. But then you get
to the NFL and you throw the best footballs in
the world. You could have Klatt, you could have Sanchez,
you could have any of us. Like, hey man, what's
the best?
Speaker 6 (19:47):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (19:48):
Those NFL balls are great. Every one of them, shape
the same, They're perfect. They fit him. Shanahan's puts him
in a perfect fit to play to his skill set.
And then the hardest thing to judge, the heart artist
thing to judge in all of sport is that ability
to process quickly, to see and process that game.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
You know.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
I mentioned Peyton at the start of this and adds
a little fun with his hundred plays on three different wristbands.
I was just like the most humble pie I've ever
eaten in my life sitting in that first meeting room
that first day in Indy, like what you know, And
I was with Kittna and Foley and Hastleback and Dilfer,
I mean smart Ice, smart Ice, and got in that room.
It was like I called my wife that night from
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you know, the the hotels. There is no way, there
is no way he's able to do this and process
all this information like this, and perty's got it because
and I love the shot that they'll have. And in
the game, just over the weekend, they showed him in
the huddle like that last drive, big play and you
can hear Kyle's calling the long play now right, it's
probably a double cadence play and you could just see
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him on the other end of it like yep, got it,
and it just regurgitates and spits it out. Don't just
minimim that, like that ability to think, that ability to process,
that ability to communicate critical CJ.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
Stroud same thing.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Third game. I'm watching him and I don't you know,
Texans are usually a corner TV game. He throws an
incredibly accurate ball, but he sees the field. Yeah, you
can watch him. He'll go boom, boom, boom, and I
mean Brock gets in a second boom boom.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
Well you watch Pennix, So you said a big tua
and I get that because he's lefty and he slings
it and he's got an unbelievable arm. To me, he's
a left handed, little stronger arm c J Stroud Pinnix.
When I watch Penix, I'm like, he sees the game
like CJ does. He's got to build very similar to
c J.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
Stroud.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Not a mover, not a hand move, but not a mover.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
But they avoid sacks, they get rid of the ball.
And how many ducks did you see Penix throw?
Speaker 6 (21:47):
None?
Speaker 5 (21:48):
How many ducks you've ever seen CJ Stroud throw almost none?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
And you can, you can. I'm always at the Penis game.
I'm three throws in and the person I'm with, I'm like, oh,
he's better in person. Yeah, like Penix is better and
I mean look good on TV, but yeah sometimes. So
I sat in the end zone for the second half
because I wanted to see what he saw yep, he sees.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
He sees the field, the hole and that ball is out.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
And as Kaitlin told the pro scouts to come by,
come watch in the rain, like it's one thing on Ondriday,
come watch them in the wind and rain. That's when
he really puts on a show. So for those cold
weather for the Cleveland's or you know some of these
Chicagos for the cold weather teams. And he proved it
in Indiana, right, he proved it up there playing in weather.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Hey, management, they don't watch the show. They're out eating
lunch and golfing. Management, get brock Hure to do more
LA games so we can come into studio and do
our show. He'll take a shot at Jmax.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
Other than that, I'm sorry about that. Big hands, huge hands.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
He can pull the ball and a gun show. Believe me,
Gunner can't get a shot. He's like Patrick Ewing, give
him the ball, you never see it back. Great to see.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
You you two calling.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Thanks Rock Hewared. He's going to do the USC of
Utah game. By the way, Utah is a tough matchup.
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All take the Chargers plus five and a half. Why
Chiefs are not a big favorite, still struggling offensively, connectability
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between Mahomes and that young receiving group. And I'll take
the e goals minus two hosting the Dolphins when you
punch back at Miami, they can fold. Not a physical team.
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Speaker 1 (24:37):
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breaks down complicated stuff. Just love having him on the show.
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And you college, you got a little pro. I love
his stories on all the signed sealing stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
I think you got to listen closely to the stuff
he's talking about coaches and how they run programs and
some guys on the rise that he's well aware of
right now in college football.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
J Mack and his jumper with the news.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
No No Turn on the news. This is the Herdline News.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
So a lot of good NFL games Sunday. I think
it's obvious that Eagles Dolphins Sunday night is.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
That's the game. I think Lions early that late, well, Chiefs,
Chargers could be interested in the four pm just a
thought Rams, Steelers, I'd lean Pittsburgh, where do you go?
Speaker 4 (25:36):
We may talk about that in headlines.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
I'm excited for that pair Eagle anyways, Eagles Dolphins, so
it's a battle of the two former Alabama quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Of course, Jalen Hurts was the starter.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
I think he had an amazing run and then gets
yank midway through the Natty.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Tua comes in beats Georgia. If you remember that, here's
Tua talking about facing his former teammate.
Speaker 8 (25:59):
I got a lot of respect for Jalen. He's been
a great competitor since I've got there. To Alabama, he's
been a special player since I've I've been there, and
he's been a special player throughout his entire college career.
So I know it'll be a good game, and I
don't think of it as a Super Bowl preview or
anything like that. I just think that this is another
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team that we're preparing for, and in order for us
to get to where we want to go to, we
gotta we gotta play this team.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Mmmm. I think it's a little more special than that.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Yeah, it's I looked. I had to look this up.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
You remember Hurts, he had to transfer not after the
national championship. The next year, he like sat behind Toua
and then he transferred to Oklahoma. And I think that's
one of the things that really had NFL teams liking him.
He didn't pout and complain and regress. He had thirty
two touchdown passes. Oklahoma led them to the playoffs. Now,
I got smoked by Burrow and any in LSU in
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the playoff, But like, the way Hurts rebounded from some
adversity was incredible.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
You know, And I'm glad you used that word. All
these quarterbacks, Aaron Rodgers dropped in the draft, Brady was ignored.
Peyton Manning is one of the few high school All American,
College All American number one pick. Great. It just it's
most of the quarterbacks in this league. Herbert was doubted.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Well, Peyton was not great. In the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
He struggled early in his career, Like it took out
a lot of cry out Yeah, magic Johnson, Tragic Johnson.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Remember with the hooks that adversity is a really powerful
thing for leadership position.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Indeed, next up, trade deadline is eleven days away. Jerry
Judy's name has been floated quite a bit. Colts and
the Broncos apparently had extensive.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Trade talks about Judy.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
According to a Colts Beat writer, there's a report that
the Broncos the Broncos have reached out to numerous teams
about trading Judy. Listen, if you're the Colts, you have
the quarterback on the rookie deal, you go get a
wide receiver the way the Bills got Digs for Josh Allen.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
This we have Pittman, so he's a great too, He's.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Fine, the way the Dolphins got Tyreek Hill Fortua on
the rookie deal.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Like, go get Judy.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Now, I don't know, he's not in the class of
Digs or Tyreek Hill obviously, but you put him on
the fast track in Indy. I mean, Judy Judy has
a lot of potential. This guy was an awesome college
football player. You don't think he's done right because of
what's going on.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
I just I think he's the guy i'd move. I
like Courtland Sutton.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
I don't think he has a value that Judy does, right.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
But I like Courtland Sutton, and I like the Mims,
the rookie kid, the kid.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
They don't think they'd move off here.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
No, I'm just saying, is I think I like Dulcich,
the tight end. I like the running back. I like
the left tackle. I like they have a guard. I
like there's parts of the offense. I like if they
went and drafted a quarterback, you're not coming to a
barren place. I get Sean Payton, legit left tackle, couple
good old linemen, Courtland Sutton, good tight end, and they'll
draft another receiver. I think Denver's got pieces. They're mostly
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on offense after certain but they got they got pieces.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Talk about a suss line.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Those are underdogs at home to Jordan Love in the
Packers one point under?
Speaker 1 (29:01):
What that wise guys like Denver? I I don't wise
guys like Denver.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I don't think anyone likes Denver, but this weekend prefers Denver.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
That's just how is Jordan Love favorite on the Road.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
I don't maybe I'm missing something. I don't think the
Packers are very good at all. Denver actually look good
against Kansas City, not offensively.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
They've had moments in first halves of games when you
know you'll now it'll be a lot of underneath stuff.
But Russell's had a couple of these twelve for thirteen
first halves, twelve for four, and the.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Packers defense is not amazing. It's not really stopping. I mean,
I don't know anyways. Final story to Major League Baseball.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
The Diamondbacks took Game three thanks to could Tell Marte
walk off single against Phillies closer Kikrim get Greg game Kimbrel.
We'll give the Diamondbacks one, but this hopefully is the Phillies.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
We want to see the Arizon route for anybody.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
We don't know we're rooting for people.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Why I like Philadelphia, They're better story.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
No disrespect Arizona.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Well, I just get I get, I get Turner, I
get Bryce Harper, ar Nola, I get some like stars,
and then all of a sudden, Schwarbrock, the guy who
was called the big the big power hitter, I got,
I get and the bank, I get the stadium the vibes.
I just think Philadelphia feels big. Yes, they feel they
feel big. Houston feels big and they have stars.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Root in Texas.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
You know, you guys are holding the garage against Houston.
Further record on Houston, clean is a whistle. Last four years,
they're still winning.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Clean the whistle and listen. I like the city of Houston.
I hear that. According to James Harden, the nightclub scene
is spectacular. You have never heard one right now. I
saw a bunch of people coming after me for some
NFL drafts. CJ.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Stroud takes fine.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Come at me, guys.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
I'm rooting Texas Rangers here one thousand percent over the astroal.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
We're allowed to root.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
You know what, Houston made a mistake. Everybody gets a
speeding tickets a mistake.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
If you'll just hear brock Heward was like the dude
was wearing something under his jersey and tapping so everybody
would know what's coming.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
That's not a mistake.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Color Well, that feels a little industrial, a little, but
everybody bangs on Houston. My takeaways, clean as a whistle
for four or five years and they keep winning. It's
like this, It's like the deflate Gate. Tom Brady is, yeah,
probably that happened and he got better. Astros are like
the Patriots. They got caught doing something that nobody was
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comfortable with and they're better after.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
What about the Patriots?
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Did they get spygate? Thing was like that was a real.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
And by the way, then it stopped and they were
even more dominant. Like at some point, I mean the Patriots,
he kept getting them and they kept winning multiple super
Bowls after Houston, everybody hates them. Now you know they're
clean and they keep dominating. Now I'm not again, this
is not like they cheated. They won. Everybody discovered the
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magic potion and they stumped the Patriots, and Astros are
arguably as good or better than those years. So at
some point they got punished. Maybe not enough, but they
got both got punished draft picks, but they're better after. Yeah,
so it's like, hey, they got nabbed. They were punished.
Like if you're audited by the irs, and most rich
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people are, it'd be one thing if you never succeeded
after that, but if the next twenty years after your
audit you continue to flourish.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
You got audited, so on you know that game we
haven't done this in a while. We have thirty seconds
here that game with the where we name eighties baseball
players back and forth. You w at Texas Rangers nineteen
eighties baseball players.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
I don't want I have eight guys in the chamber ready.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Pete Incavilia, Oh yeah, yeah, that's a great one.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
I think he played at Oklahoma State. I don't know
about that incub Texas Rangers, Ieay Nolan Ryan? Was that about?
Speaker 8 (32:46):
Dang it?
Speaker 4 (32:46):
That was Ruffael Pomiro. Yeah, he might have been nineties.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
But let me think of somebody else. Was Michael Young?
That was way after that?
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Who was u Sierra?
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Rubin Sierra? Yeah, I finally got let's be honest. That
team out a uniform. Now they may have been on
a substance, but those guys filled out a uniform. They
look like a pro football team. Huh No, it's like
the Phillies. When you watch the Phillies now, they look
like a football team. Yeah, like those guys. You do
not want to get into a fight with. Philadelphia's got
dudes everywhere. Those Ranger teams. I don't know what it was,
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but they their protein count was way out. I think
they didn't want to get a weight listing.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
I don't think people want to get a dust up
with us. You're here hitting the gym every day. We
know what I bring to the table. I mean goodness great.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Maybe we should do some like tag team wrestling against
another radio show.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Let's not do that. No, doesn't appeal to We want
to smoke? Yeah, I don't want. I don't want. I
don't smoke and I don't want to smoke. J Mack
with the news.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
I was up late last night. I had a podcast
to do after and then I was out. That couldn't
I just went to bed last night two fifty five,
staring at the ceiling. Wow, didn't sleep at all out night.
And look at the energy. I'm out here dropping rants
that are change in the industry. I'm working on two hours.
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I'm sleep less than a squirrel. I slept two hours
last night.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
The squirrel's not slept. I didn't have believe.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
I've never seen a sleeping squirrel. They're always moving on trees.
They don't sleep. That's my interpretation. We'll take a break
tomorrow's headlines today.
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Speaker 1 (35:17):
By j Mac. Week seven, last week low scoring games.
Will it continue? Our segment is called Tomorrow's Headlines. Today,
let's go to your picks. The Raiders Bears playing backups.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
How can you not be attracted to this game? Colin?
I love it? It's in the Windy City. The headline will.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Be show me the Mooney Bears secure the beige in
to give me the young kid, the undrafted rookie in
an upset. I know everybody's excited to hate DeVante Adams.
Jay he's talking about he's upset. You know they're getting
the ball to him. I'll fine bring it on.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
The Raiders should not be favored on the road with
Hoyer or AOC, whoever it is.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Listen, I don't think very highly of the Chicago Bears,
but this young kid undrafted with now a full week
to prepare for a Raiders defense that ain't great outside
of what's his face?
Speaker 4 (36:09):
Crosby off the edge.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Listen, Matt Jones moved the ball last week against him.
Bears are gonna have some chances. This is a Bears team,
you know. I think the best skill position player in
the game probably DJ.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Moore, excellent for the for the Bears. I think he
has a game. Give me the Bears to win outright.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Tomorrow's headlines today, you're choosing the ugly Ones Browns.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
With the Colts.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Well, it wouldn't be fun if we all picked the
problem queens every year.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Every week with the headline will be Joku's on you,
Brown's hide the Colts Keys. I think the Browns, who
you know, are not the sharp side this week because
they just beat the forty nine ers. But it looks
like I've been following the practice report here during the show.
Looks like Deshaun Watson is going to go Miles Garrett
hyping in like it's a really good bet, but it's
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probably not gonna be three anymore. I just I saw
some numbers on Gardner Minshew, like if he's coming in
in like the second quarter because of an injury, he's
solid as a starter two and eleven straight up, two
and ten against the spread, not just not delivering when
he has to start, and teams could prepare well.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
Jim Schwartz is gonna prepare a lot of pressure with four.
Can sit back. I think the Browns win handily and listen,
this is a team. Don't sleep on Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
In the AFC, Tomorrow's headlines today Commanders and the Giants,
and I got burned on the Commanders.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
I'm off then, yeah, yeah, what do you need when
you get a burned you know, and.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
The headline will be Alo rivera Commanders burn big Blue.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
I don't think Cowhard saw the headline before.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
This is just me fading the New York Giants and
that abomination. You know, they have not rebounded since the
Brotherly Shove, and they lost offensive lineman got injured on
that play.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
They're still not healthy, Colin. It is really bad.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Now.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Daniel Jones is back at practice, but I'm not sure
if he's gonna start.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
With the next Probably.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
I just Washington should dominate the trenches with that defensive line.
Speaker 6 (38:04):
Now.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
The problem here is backing Sam Howell, who is on
track to be the most set quarterback in NFL history.
They can't get margin, but I do think they do
enough to win here. This Giant's team looks depleted, deflated.
I think they're cooked for the season.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Colin.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
I like Washington win on the road.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
I will say this, I'll give you credit. You are
picking the ugliest games. I mean, honestly, these are not
only corner TV games. I'd put them on like my
phone beyond my corner. I mean, these are bad games. Now,
finally you got a good one. Okay, Tomorrow's headlines today
Week seven Lions at Ravens. This is fine.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
I've gone back and forth on this one a lot,
and ultimately I just can't get past one fact. The
headline will be he went to Jared Ravens, bet meed
to King of the North. Give me Jared Goff going
on the road. Pulling a big upset here. Now it
appears as if the running back situation in Detroit is
muddled with the injuries. But Jamiir Gibbs will play. That's
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the latest report we got. Jamiir Gibbs will play the rookie,
which is gonna be huge.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
I'm excited to watch that.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Keep an eye on Marcus Williams in the secondary hamstring
for the Ravens safety. Very good playmaker on the back
end out. I would take a flyer on Jamison Williams,
the young kid. The young kid at A with a burner.
He could take advantage of the secondary issues. Kyle Hamilton's
more of an in the box safety for Baltimore. If
Detroit pulls this off, Colin, go ahead and pencil him
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in number one seed in the NFC. I know everybody
loves hey, Oh Dad, Campbell's team has struggled to stop
running quarterback Justin.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Field runs wild. Listen.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
They've known this is coming for a while they should
be ready for Lamar, who's not running as much.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
If you notice that he's not running as much.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
But he's playing great.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
Lamar's very good. We'll see Aiden Hutchinson's up for the challenge.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Finally, Tomorrow's headlines today, I didn't take this one. I
think I division rival Lot had taken seven, seven and
a half Cardinals at Seattle. What say you?
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Well, you know I didn't want to copy you with
San fran which I bet. I didn't want to copy
you with Philly, which I'm on. So I said, let
me go with my biggest play of the week. The
headline will be the great beam Gino Cardinals are going
going you like I do.
Speaker 4 (40:09):
The numbers kind of pinged around.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
DK Metcalf is not really practiced this week, but I
don't think it's a big concern. Listen, Arizona is just
fading fast. Colin the depletion in the secondary. They just
don't have the horses outscored more than anyone in the
second half, outscored more than anyone in the fourth quarter.
They just seem to run out of gas. You saw
the Rams game last year. Control in the first half.
You want if you want to bet Arizona bet the
first half because in the second half they fall apart.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
The game plan's not there. And this is a Seattle
team going.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Home right off off a tough loss to Cincinnati, where
we then kind of agree they were the better side.
I think the arrow is pointing up for Seattle. And
you heard our guest here this hour talk about that
Seattle defense. Yeah, they could have their way with Arizona
and Josh Dobbs. He doesn't want to run against these
hard hitting safeties.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
I like Seattle here.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
By the way, Gino Smith has obviously been a remarkable story.
He was a total whiff in New York, not mature.
He acknowledged that. Then he ends up in Seattle, and
it's a story of redemption, which, by the way, it's
the great American story. People get second chances. So Gino
Smith is impossible not to root for. I find Baker Mayfield,
believe it or not impossible in Tampa not to root
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for now. I was very critical Baker Mayfield for years.
He came on the show, he was a great sport.
We fired back and forth, and I really did enjoy it.
He was great, and I've said this before. He's absolutely
a franchise quarterback. I didn't think maturity. I didn't think
he was quite fit in Cleveland. Now, some of that's
Cleveland's dysfunction in all their nonsense. But I think Tampa.
I think he's the best quarterback in that division, and
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I do think now watching the Derek Carr Saints, I
think Tampa's got a shot to win it. So Mark
Schlareth is doing their game this week, meaning Mark is
now in Tampa. And so Mark and I told him
the other day, oh, you're doing the Baker game, and
Mark said he was going to do this.
Speaker 6 (41:56):
Color.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
I'll let Baker know you said hot.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
By the way, he doesn't think I like him, That
is totally false. I love this story. I think he's
going to be the next superstar in college football analyst work.
So I want you to say I say hi earnestly
and sincerely, because I am rooting for him. I absolutely am.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Okay, we'll take a picture and we'll send it to him.
We'll send it to you. Well, he and I are
going to take a picture, We're going to send it
to you.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
I will frame it. I will frame it, I swear
to you, and hang it in my office. I would
love that. Well, we have the picture. I am going
to frame it and it is going to be in
my office. It was taken today. How awesome is Schlareth
And to Baker for being a good sport. If somebody
would have been as hard on me as I was
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on Baker, I'm not sure I would have the ability
to smile at a picture. To Baker Mayfield's credit, he's
mature enough and resilient enough, and he's had enough people
dump on him in his life that he can handle it,
which I have great admiration for. He's always welcome on
the show. I understand he doesn't want to do that.
I totally get it and respect that, but I am
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rooting for him. I think the Geno Smith story. I
want pro athletes. I know I'm seen as harsh, but
I like all these young people in all these sports.
Ben Simmons drives me nuts. Harden drives me nuts. There
are players that drive me nuts. But in the end,
I love watching sports and so they fulfill my life.
They give me not just content, but they give me
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great enjoyment. Last time, I'm sitting by myself watching the
game for two and a half hours, and I'm loving it.
Thank you to the athlete. So Baker, to his credit,
willing to smile take a picture. And I am genuinely,
I really am. I think I always said thought a
bit of a reach at one, wasn't quite ready for it.
But he's a franchise quarterback and with time to throw,
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which Tampa has given him on most Sundays, he's good.
He can make place.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
Is he beating Atlanta this weekend?
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Well, the wise guys like Atlanta. I do not, but
the wise guys do. I just you know, I go
back to this, underdogs are not covering one of the
things that's happening, and it's happening in real time. Take
the best quarterback today. I took and Jared Town, I
took Lamar. I know I took Justin Herbert over Holmes.
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But their offense is better this year, and I took
better quarterbacks than most of my picks. I think Brock
Purty with that team will be better than Kirk Cousins
on Monday Night Football.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
So one of the things the Sharps have noticed with
Tampa is their early down offense is totally dreadful. They
cannot move the football, they can't run, nothing's working Baker
has been bailing them out on third down with some
wacky scrambles, some wacky that's not sustainable. You can't just
do nothing first and second down and.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
Then third and long. And why I can't think wacky
things happen?
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Why can't they get better on first down?
Speaker 6 (44:45):
Well?
Speaker 4 (44:45):
Can they?
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Well, I don't think it's if they're doing stuff on third,
why can't they do it on first? They're doing it.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
They're just the question for the offensive coordinator who's calling
some dumb stuff out of the gate.
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Big story today in our show, We've got a lot
of NFL stuff this hour, Little college football, a lot
of NFL stuff with that whole Michigan stealing signals from
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Big ten rivals. Now, I feel it's like jealousy and envy.
I think it's low level stuff. In fact, it was
legal until nineteen ninety four, when the NCAA basically said,
we don't think it's fair. Rich teams can do it,
and the teams that aren't as rich. Purdue couldn't do it,
but Michigan could afford it, and it was a staffing issue.
It wasn't like they thought it meant anything. It wasn't
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because oh, it's changing outcomes. Stealing signs in baseball is
not changing outcomes of games. What a shock. The Astros
and the Phillies are again rolling. Everybody's stealing signs. So
I don't think it matters. I think everybody's stealing signs
to some degree. I mean, in baseball, that's what you
do all night, steal signs. It's funny. The Astros are
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really good again. The Mets aren't. The Braves are the Dodgers. Word.
It's the same teams every year. Who's got better players.
Michigan's gonna thump virtually everybody they play this year not
named Georgia, Texas, Washington, Oregon, Ohio State. They're gonna thump
everybody got twenty two guys drafted.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Unless, of course, the Houston Astros are cheating again.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Well, we don't know. They just have.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
An accusation that just rings hollow with me. So and
I'm not listen. I'm not a do gooder in society.
I try to do right. I have values in morals,
but I'm listen. Have I ever written off a glass
of wine that probably wasn't a business opportunity. I'm not
saying I did, but it's possible. It's all I'm saying.
Everybody's you know, everybody gets on their high horse stealing signals.
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Everybody's coke, Pepsi. There are everybody's got people. We have
our government has discovered our spies giving stuff to Russia.
It's everybody get We got a thousand people in Russia.
They got a thousand people over here. That's the world
we live in. Technology, information, power, leverage, money. It happens.
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Michigan State's like, oh, we're not gonna play like like
Michigan State can take the high horse on anything. Slow
down a little bit, all right. One of my favorite
guests played in the NFL. He was back up to
Peyton Manning for years. Washington Huskies can talk. NFL knows
this stuff. College football. Doing the usc Utah game this
weekend brought Hwared Fox Sports, who we never ever get
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in studio ever, So how lucky are we also a
popular talk show host in Seattle. So let's start with this.
Let's do some college football to start. Okay, you live
in Denver. You have Denver stuff, by the way, Geno
Smith stuff, So sign stealing. Are you outraged?
Speaker 5 (03:22):
No? No, no, I think that is totally on you.
If you and I think there's probably a few people
watching right now that could connect maybe a few dots.
Bruce Felman wrote an amazing piece about this years ago.
You know, I don't know if you've seen that, but
Bruce wrote and just a deep dive, and I remember.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
Sharing with Bruce. It's probably two or three years.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Ago, and I'm like, oh, I don't know if I
want to share all this stuff. Right, it's one of
those just kind of unwritten, you don't know story. Oh
do I have a story? I mean, I played for
the greatest sign stealer that ever lived. I can't say
that Colin. I can't say who it is.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Is he a player?
Speaker 5 (03:58):
No? No, he wasn't a player. He was in the organ.
He was unbelievable. He was a unibomber and he would
spend time talking to his plants and he figured it out.
And he was the only place College pro is only
only one place in all of my years where I
was like, Wow, this guy can really do it. And
he's doing what everyone was doing, and that is you
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go to the opposing field and you watch the defensive
coordinator and you write it all down and then it's
like code.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
Right.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
So I have all these signals, right, so when he
does this or this or any of the code, and
then I got to match it to the actual game tape,
and then I got to figure out what the actual
calls are, and then in real time, I got to
see what's actually going on. And then in real time
I got to communicate to the coordinator, who then's got
to communicate to the quarterback. I mean, there's so many avenues.
This isn't banging a drum for a baseball player, and like, oh, okay,
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or Altuve wearing whatever he was wearing to tell him,
you know, hey, if it beats once, it's a fastball twy, Like,
there are so many more mechanisms to make it happen
in a football game in real time. There was only
one place that could do it, and he did it unbelievable. Well,
but even with that, how many plays out of sixty
plays in a game?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Three?
Speaker 6 (05:04):
Uh yeah, maybe three?
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Maybe a blitz you know, maybe like okay, here comes
the blitz, so we could block the blitz up.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
And hit You got to get it through to the people. Yes, yes,
So let me ask you. One of the smartest players
in Lee history, and you're a sharpiest Peyton Manning. So
he was yelling omaha, did omaha mean something different every
week because he had to hide stuff.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Oh we had he had to constantly change everything up,
you know. And now he's gonna kill me for saying this,
but and this is the answer. The answer is just
simply to wear wristband, right, you know, for an offensive play,
just wear wristband. I know Russell didn't like wearing wrist bands,
but wear wristband. And guess what John Payton could go over,
you know, play two or you know play two, play five,
you know whatever. So there's no signals, it's all there
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and do it. And in fact, Peyton coaching his boy Marshall,
Marshall's doesn't have one wrist band. Marshall didn't have two
wrist bands. Marshall's got three wish wristbands cause you know,
thirteen to you you got to have one hundred plays, right,
So yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
Yeah, I'm like, how many plays are you guys running?
Speaker 5 (06:05):
You know, I kind of help coach my sod and
you know, we got like twenty five thirt He's like,
I we're up to about seventy five eight.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
I'm like, what how do you do that?
Speaker 5 (06:13):
How do you signal them in It's like, we don't
signal we wear wristbands. How do you get eighty plays on? Oh,
we don't wear one risk band, gotta wear two wristbands.
He's gotta wear three wristbands. So I'm not no, I'm
not outraged. Figure it out, change your signals, put on
a wristband. This was like the worst kept secret though
calling those of us in college football had heard rumblings
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of this Michigan or everywhere. No with Michigan heard people
rumbling about Michigan, rumbling about how well you know they're
doing things They've turned like, come on, you know what
they're doing. They hired a great young NFL decordinator, they
replaced him with another guy who's great, young, innovative, and they.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
Have a first round quarterback. It's not that hard. It's
not stealing signals. It's j. J.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
McCarthy and a great young defensive coordinator. Those two things
are why they're doing what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
In college football. You know this is a former Husky.
Don James starts the program in the seventies. They're good,
they dip in the eighties. Then he has to fire
friends on the staff and they become a powerhouse. USC.
You're doing the game against Utah. It is a big game, folks,
because Washington and Oregon are after it, and I don't
think USC matches up with either. This is must win.
Do you think there is? It's very hard, But do
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you believe that Lincoln Riley could And it's hard at
the college level. If they throw up a couple stinkers
here in the next three weeks, could he make those
brutal moves?
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Yeah, Loyalty is what you're talking about, right, and loyalty
with this whole coaching fraternity. I mean, Jimbo Fisher has
fired how many coaches in his whole life?
Speaker 6 (07:44):
One one? That's it.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
I mean, loyalty is a big deal to these guys.
And you know, you call it relationship and friendship and connection,
but loyalty is real and it's Yeah, it's very, very
difficult to make those moves. The challenge for me calling
when I watch USC's defense, though, Yeah, Alex Crinch sometimes
does too much, and guys are scrambling, and they're.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
A lot of blowne coverage, a lot of blown.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Coverages and just not on every detail. But they're small.
They're small, and that's what makes tomorrow night fascinating because Utah.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
Is big and our crew's got the good fortune. This
is the trilogy.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
We had both of them last year, the one in
Salt Lake, the championship game.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
We know it, We've seen it. I mean you big huge.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Is a rough matchup because they will not be able
to guard their receivers. Oregon couldn't with NFL corners and
Oregon is just a better tea and Oregon's big. Yes,
so those are bad matchups.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
If USC doesn't win here, we're talking four game losing streak.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Yeah, you got to get this one before any of
that happens. Now, they've got speed.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
You know, m cal may be in there somewhere.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
But yeah, Cal's in there too. But they've got a
This is a USC wants to make it like the clash,
you know, like the race car track at the Coliseum.
Turn left, but they also want to turn right, and
they just want to get on the racetrack. Utah wants
a cage match, and that's what they made it last year.
They just made it a brutal physical couldn't stop them,
couldn't tackle them, couldn't handle them. But this is also
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the one and Lincoln said it today. When we met
with him earlier today, he said, you know what, this
is the exact right opponent, coming off of Notre Dame,
coming off of that brutal loss, coming off of everything, Caleb,
all the noise like to get this opponent that beat
us twice last year. This is the right team at
the right time for us to really turn the page
and get after it.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
One more college before we go pro. Michael Pennix, I
saw him in person last weekend. I said, I don't
know what his comp is. Bo Nix was a little
Derek Carr. Michael Pennox felt like a very very big TUA, lefty,
soft touch, beautiful sideline thrower, has some injury history. But
I will say when I watched him live, there's a
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lot of wow. Is Washington with those receivers, that quarterback,
that coach, pro left tackle, couple edge rushers in the NFL.
Are they in National championship worthy team?
Speaker 6 (09:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Yeah, I think this year's fascinating college football. If we
had a twelve team playoff this year, I think you
would see the smallest betting lines between one, twelve, two eleven,
three ten that I can ever remember. Right, you want
to talk about what's parody and college football? And how
close are these teams? Honestly, if one versus twelve, now
that's Georgia Oregon State. But is that a thirty point spread?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Oh no, Oregon State's is it got game?
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Yes, in years past with Georgia and with Bama, and
they would have been twenty thirty forty point spreads one
verse twelve this year. I think there's about ten or
twelve teams in Washington's one of them. Now they don't
twenty three through fifty. Maybe they're not where some of
the others are one through twenty two. Callin, you saw him?
And by the way, do you know this? I mean,
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he just he's all in on Washington. Hey, it took
one trip to get you on.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
He starts saying, week, it took one.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Trip to get you an Usky stadium and feel it
like he used to feel it. Right, it's back. Kailn's
not lost there. Pennix hasn't lost at home. They'll get
Utah at home right now. They got to go to USC,
and they got to go to Oregon State. I think
they can.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Oregon State scares me. USC doesn't.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Yeah, I think they can still get to a playoff
with one loss, I think they can still take you
now when that loss is.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Thirty percent of NFL fans don't watch college football. If
you're an NFL fan, watch Washington. That is an NFL offense.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
It is three.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Two potential first round receivers. McMillan didn't play, and he's
there two. Polk's a three. He's a one at almost
every pack twelve school.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
They are really fun.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
And they're just pros.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Man. I went out and watched practice last week when
I was in town as well, and they just I
was like, man, this feels like an NFL operation. You know,
it's just the way they conduct their business a little
bit like Ohio State. So Ohio statelier this year, so
I'm Michigan earlier this year. Like, there's not that much
that separates them.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
Now.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Gosh, I really wish they had Vitavea. I really wish
he had Elijah.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Quah they don't.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
I really wish he had great gains.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
That's what they missed.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
Yeah, and sixteen they had those guys, right.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
They don't have that, yes, and that's what Oregon punished them.
Art center guard stuff. All right, let's go to the NFL.
You've done Seahawk games. You know, you're a talk show
host in Seattle. We were talking about this. I do something.
I do it about five times a year. I call
it a super Bowl bubble. The teams that I think
are truly viable now. In baseball, it's a salary thing.
Houston's got a lot of money. Dodgers do, Royals don't.
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In the NBA, it's a star driven thing. You know,
if you've got Lebron or Anthony Davis, you're in the bubble.
But in the NFL there's a lot of factors. But
it's becoming more like the other sports. Six No, seven
of the eight best quarterbacks in the division, six of
eight lead their division. Because I do through I think
Baker's more talented than Derek Carr and Josh Allen beat
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two ahead to head. I think they'll finish above only
the Niners with Brock Perty don't is that in college
football we've always understood the roster wins.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
The coach is the star. So I look at Seattle.
I love so many things about them, but I think
to myself, defensive colch Pete Geno Smith, Yep, how.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
Do you view Gino Yeah, it's it's tough. There's so
much to like. I really like Gino, But do I
love Gino?
Speaker 6 (13:13):
Right? I mean I think that's the question.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
And I think most SAK fans jenuine like like and
what he did last year is he won over so
many at every turn on the field off the field.
He was authentic, he was real. His teammates loved him
at every turn. He said, I'm a thumb guy. I'm
never pointing a finger. I'm a thumb guy. It's all
about me. Yeah, I mean there was calling it. Ever Honestly,
I don't think he could have done more last year.
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So you really like him, and they you know what,
they gave him a contract where they really like them,
but they didn't give him a love them contract. I mean,
it's a year to year, you know, like, you do
what you did and you top it, it will escalate
and you'll be here next year. But it wasn't like, hey,
I'm in love with you and I'm committed to you
and here's Daniel Jones money. It wasn't that at all.
So yeah, I think it is still a figuring out process.
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But I will say this, Colin, having watched them every
snap for the last fourteen years with Pete really closely.
Their defense is the best it's been since fifteen sixteen.
Speaker 6 (14:11):
Witherspoon is real.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Well, yeah, it's fast, young and fast.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
You've watched san Fran in the last two three years
and they just punish people, Like in the prime with
the Seahawks. I mean we would play ac DC on
Fridays before every game where the flagship station. It was like,
we may not win, but you are gonna get beat up,
like you're gonna deal with the Seahawks in thirteen and
fourteen and fifteen and sixteen and here comes Thunderstruck and
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Hell's bells.
Speaker 6 (14:37):
Her audience is just yeah, killing.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
Guys, you know, like it's so pumped up. And then
we tried to still do it in like seventeen and eighteen.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
A year older.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
We were like an old rock band like this is
just now, this doesn't feel right. And now it's like
whoa hold on a second. These dudes will hit you,
Chenna will hit you, Spoon will hit you. Bobby's coming downhill,
Jordan Brooks and I mean they got dudes Quandre Jamal
like they will come up now and yeah, they're not
quite where san Fran is defensively, but they've closed that
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gap a bunch a bunch and.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
They're cheaper than San franc They got decisions to make.
I want to talk about Denver. You live in Denver now,
which is a great American city. You can get anywhere
out of one of the great airports in America has
brought and I discussed airports are underrated. It's a weird situation.
It's not unprecedented. Rams signed Golf to a big deal
twenty nineteen. Starts in twenty twenty one. They moved off
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him before it started, so they had to pay Golf
and Stafford gave up draft picks and won a Super Bowl.
There's a feeling in Denver like, hey, Drake May Caleb,
the only way to get out of this is just
pick a quarterback or Panix? Does it? You live there?
What does it feel like from the fans the media?
Speaker 5 (15:52):
Yeah, it's trending that way, It really is. And I
heard the clip last hour you played a Sheriff Schlaret
where he said he would be Shore if Russell was
a guy next year. You feel that because with Golf, though,
it was even tougher to do because how old was
Jared when they moved off Jared Young young, so that
was even more doubly difficult. Not only did they have
a contract, but he was a young, still ascending Russell
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just at this age and stage, is just not.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
That I don't see the juice. Yes, it's not like
I'm like he's terrible, but I know who the top.
I watched Lamar Jalen Mahomes Herbert Lawrence last night. There's
a juice. Yes, that comes through the television. Yes, I don't.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
See No, Nope, it's a juice. And it's also that
just explosive fiber. I mean, Russell was a wizard, a wizard.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
For a long time.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
He was so much fun for us to watch.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
And I mean at any time, he was gonna make
something happen, no matter what the circumstances were. And yeah,
last year certainly went a totally different direction. This year
it is just you just don't see. And ultimately, you know,
I know there was all sorts of drama and he said,
and she said, and this and that when it came
to Seattle and Russell in the end, but ultimately John
Schneider just looked at that and said, we got the
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best of us. You know that ten years we had
that was the best of us. The next five to
ten are not going to be the best of us.
And let somebody else try to figure that out. And
that's somebody else's Denver And yeah, come March, you're going
to have to make a decision because in March two
years of his deal guarantees. So they've got to make
a decision in March of this year, not for one year,
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but for two years of guarantees. Hard to imagine they
can say yes to that.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Brock Purdy seventh rounders, So you were a third round pick,
and there's a reason you're tall. I mean I'm tall.
You're significantly taller than me. You were a high school
All American, a college All American. And then there's Brock
Purdy who plays at Iowa State. And one of the
first signs that he's much better than we think is
that Alha Iowa State has a very good coach. Yep,
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And for four years they were viable, yes, and with
a good coach went into the ABYSS an hour after
he left, and it's like, oh wait a minute, Yep,
he's special. Have we just we saw it with Mark
Brunel Ye Romo, Kurt Warner under draft. You played in
the NFL with a guy I guarantee you that was
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a six or seventh round or third practice proc you went,
whoa that edge guy is gonna start? Was he just?
Is he an elite talent or a good player with
great around?
Speaker 6 (18:26):
Yeah, well he's got the best around college games?
Speaker 5 (18:29):
I did so. Yes, So you met Bo. My college
producers here with me today. And Bo's probably chuckling watching
this because we had him a bunch on the road, right.
We didn't get up to Ames until his last year.
We got up to Ames and I got to watch
him in practice, and I'm like, this guy's built like
J Mack. I mean, no offense J Mack, but this
guy's like I don't get it. I don't see it.
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He's got short arms, he's got small hands, he's got
like I'm not saying you have small hands. I'm like,
there you go. So you don't have you don't have.
He got like just everything about him is like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
It looks like a seventh round quarterback.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
He looks like a seventh round or undrafted quarterback. Like
it's just he is.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
And I didn't think that. I said, my god, this
guy has maximized any gift he's got.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
That's what you saw I did.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
I was like, this guy to do what he's doing,
to play the game at the level he is, to
elevate Iowa State, to produce the way he is. I mean,
he has not been gifted the height, the length, the leverage, anything,
and yet that dude just goes out there and he
just balls. It was also funny Colin because at Iowa
State he used very worn footballs and he was constantly
looking at his finger and I'm like, ah, I don't know, man,
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Like he's got just tiny hands, Like something just doesn't
feel right right, doesn't look right. But then you get
to the NFL and you throw the best footballs in
the world. You could have Klatt, you could have Sanchez,
you could have any of us. Like, hey man, what's
the best?
Speaker 6 (19:47):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (19:48):
Those NFL balls are great. Every one of them, shape
the same, They're perfect. They fit him. Shanahan's puts him
in a perfect fit to play to his skill set.
And then the hardest thing to judge, the heart artist
thing to judge in all of sport is that ability
to process quickly, to see and process that game.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
You know.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
I mentioned Peyton at the start of this and adds
a little fun with his hundred plays on three different wristbands.
I was just like the most humble pie I've ever
eaten in my life sitting in that first meeting room
that first day in Indy, like what you know, And
I was with Kittna and Foley and Hastleback and Dilfer,
I mean smart Ice, smart Ice, and got in that room.
It was like I called my wife that night from
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you know, the the hotels. There is no way, there
is no way he's able to do this and process
all this information like this, and perty's got it because
and I love the shot that they'll have. And in
the game, just over the weekend, they showed him in
the huddle like that last drive, big play and you
can hear Kyle's calling the long play now right, it's
probably a double cadence play and you could just see
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him on the other end of it like yep, got it,
and it just regurgitates and spits it out. Don't just
minimim that, like that ability to think, that ability to process,
that ability to communicate critical CJ.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
Stroud same thing.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Third game. I'm watching him and I don't you know,
Texans are usually a corner TV game. He throws an
incredibly accurate ball, but he sees the field. Yeah, you
can watch him. He'll go boom, boom, boom, and I
mean Brock gets in a second boom boom.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
Well you watch Pennix, So you said a big tua
and I get that because he's lefty and he slings
it and he's got an unbelievable arm. To me, he's
a left handed, little stronger arm c J Stroud Pinnix.
When I watch Penix, I'm like, he sees the game
like CJ does. He's got to build very similar to
c J.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
Stroud.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Not a mover, not a hand move, but not a mover.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
But they avoid sacks, they get rid of the ball.
And how many ducks did you see Penix throw?
Speaker 6 (21:47):
None?
Speaker 5 (21:48):
How many ducks you've ever seen CJ Stroud throw almost none?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
And you can, you can. I'm always at the Penis game.
I'm three throws in and the person I'm with, I'm like, oh,
he's better in person. Yeah, like Penix is better and
I mean look good on TV, but yeah sometimes. So
I sat in the end zone for the second half
because I wanted to see what he saw yep, he sees.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
He sees the field, the hole and that ball is out.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
And as Kaitlin told the pro scouts to come by,
come watch in the rain, like it's one thing on Ondriday,
come watch them in the wind and rain. That's when
he really puts on a show. So for those cold
weather for the Cleveland's or you know some of these
Chicagos for the cold weather teams. And he proved it
in Indiana, right, he proved it up there playing in weather.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Hey, management, they don't watch the show. They're out eating
lunch and golfing. Management, get brock Hure to do more
LA games so we can come into studio and do
our show. He'll take a shot at Jmax.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
Other than that, I'm sorry about that. Big hands, huge hands.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
He can pull the ball and a gun show. Believe me,
Gunner can't get a shot. He's like Patrick Ewing, give
him the ball, you never see it back. Great to see.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
You you two calling.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Thanks Rock Hewared. He's going to do the USC of
Utah game. By the way, Utah is a tough matchup.
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All take the Chargers plus five and a half. Why
Chiefs are not a big favorite, still struggling offensively, connectability
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between Mahomes and that young receiving group. And I'll take
the e goals minus two hosting the Dolphins when you
punch back at Miami, they can fold. Not a physical team.
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Speaker 1 (24:37):
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breaks down complicated stuff. Just love having him on the show.
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And you college, you got a little pro. I love
his stories on all the signed sealing stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
I think you got to listen closely to the stuff
he's talking about coaches and how they run programs and
some guys on the rise that he's well aware of
right now in college football.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
J Mack and his jumper with the news.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
No No Turn on the news. This is the Herdline News.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
So a lot of good NFL games Sunday. I think
it's obvious that Eagles Dolphins Sunday night is.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
That's the game. I think Lions early that late, well, Chiefs,
Chargers could be interested in the four pm just a
thought Rams, Steelers, I'd lean Pittsburgh, where do you go?
Speaker 4 (25:36):
We may talk about that in headlines.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
I'm excited for that pair Eagle anyways, Eagles Dolphins, so
it's a battle of the two former Alabama quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Of course, Jalen Hurts was the starter.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
I think he had an amazing run and then gets
yank midway through the Natty.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Tua comes in beats Georgia. If you remember that, here's
Tua talking about facing his former teammate.
Speaker 8 (25:59):
I got a lot of respect for Jalen. He's been
a great competitor since I've got there. To Alabama, he's
been a special player since I've I've been there, and
he's been a special player throughout his entire college career.
So I know it'll be a good game, and I
don't think of it as a Super Bowl preview or
anything like that. I just think that this is another
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team that we're preparing for, and in order for us
to get to where we want to go to, we
gotta we gotta play this team.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Mmmm. I think it's a little more special than that.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Yeah, it's I looked. I had to look this up.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
You remember Hurts, he had to transfer not after the
national championship. The next year, he like sat behind Toua
and then he transferred to Oklahoma. And I think that's
one of the things that really had NFL teams liking him.
He didn't pout and complain and regress. He had thirty
two touchdown passes. Oklahoma led them to the playoffs. Now,
I got smoked by Burrow and any in LSU in
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the playoff, But like, the way Hurts rebounded from some
adversity was incredible.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
You know, And I'm glad you used that word. All
these quarterbacks, Aaron Rodgers dropped in the draft, Brady was ignored.
Peyton Manning is one of the few high school All American,
College All American number one pick. Great. It just it's
most of the quarterbacks in this league. Herbert was doubted.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Well, Peyton was not great. In the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
He struggled early in his career, Like it took out
a lot of cry out Yeah, magic Johnson, Tragic Johnson.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Remember with the hooks that adversity is a really powerful
thing for leadership position.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Indeed, next up, trade deadline is eleven days away. Jerry
Judy's name has been floated quite a bit. Colts and
the Broncos apparently had extensive.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Trade talks about Judy.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
According to a Colts Beat writer, there's a report that
the Broncos the Broncos have reached out to numerous teams
about trading Judy. Listen, if you're the Colts, you have
the quarterback on the rookie deal, you go get a
wide receiver the way the Bills got Digs for Josh Allen.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
This we have Pittman, so he's a great too, He's.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Fine, the way the Dolphins got Tyreek Hill Fortua on
the rookie deal.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Like, go get Judy.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Now, I don't know, he's not in the class of
Digs or Tyreek Hill obviously, but you put him on
the fast track in Indy. I mean, Judy Judy has
a lot of potential. This guy was an awesome college
football player. You don't think he's done right because of
what's going on.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
I just I think he's the guy i'd move. I
like Courtland Sutton.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
I don't think he has a value that Judy does, right.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
But I like Courtland Sutton, and I like the Mims,
the rookie kid, the kid.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
They don't think they'd move off here.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
No, I'm just saying, is I think I like Dulcich,
the tight end. I like the running back. I like
the left tackle. I like they have a guard. I
like there's parts of the offense. I like if they
went and drafted a quarterback, you're not coming to a
barren place. I get Sean Payton, legit left tackle, couple
good old linemen, Courtland Sutton, good tight end, and they'll
draft another receiver. I think Denver's got pieces. They're mostly
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on offense after certain but they got they got pieces.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Talk about a suss line.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Those are underdogs at home to Jordan Love in the
Packers one point under?
Speaker 1 (29:01):
What that wise guys like Denver? I I don't wise
guys like Denver.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I don't think anyone likes Denver, but this weekend prefers Denver.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
That's just how is Jordan Love favorite on the Road.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
I don't maybe I'm missing something. I don't think the
Packers are very good at all. Denver actually look good
against Kansas City, not offensively.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
They've had moments in first halves of games when you
know you'll now it'll be a lot of underneath stuff.
But Russell's had a couple of these twelve for thirteen
first halves, twelve for four, and the.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Packers defense is not amazing. It's not really stopping. I mean,
I don't know anyways. Final story to Major League Baseball.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
The Diamondbacks took Game three thanks to could Tell Marte
walk off single against Phillies closer Kikrim get Greg game Kimbrel.
We'll give the Diamondbacks one, but this hopefully is the Phillies.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
We want to see the Arizon route for anybody.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
We don't know we're rooting for people.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Why I like Philadelphia, They're better story.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
No disrespect Arizona.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Well, I just get I get, I get Turner, I
get Bryce Harper, ar Nola, I get some like stars,
and then all of a sudden, Schwarbrock, the guy who
was called the big the big power hitter, I got,
I get and the bank, I get the stadium the vibes.
I just think Philadelphia feels big. Yes, they feel they
feel big. Houston feels big and they have stars.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Root in Texas.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
You know, you guys are holding the garage against Houston.
Further record on Houston, clean is a whistle. Last four years,
they're still winning.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Clean the whistle and listen. I like the city of Houston.
I hear that. According to James Harden, the nightclub scene
is spectacular. You have never heard one right now. I
saw a bunch of people coming after me for some
NFL drafts. CJ.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Stroud takes fine.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Come at me, guys.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
I'm rooting Texas Rangers here one thousand percent over the astroal.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
We're allowed to root.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
You know what, Houston made a mistake. Everybody gets a
speeding tickets a mistake.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
If you'll just hear brock Heward was like the dude
was wearing something under his jersey and tapping so everybody
would know what's coming.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
That's not a mistake.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Color Well, that feels a little industrial, a little, but
everybody bangs on Houston. My takeaways, clean as a whistle
for four or five years and they keep winning. It's
like this, It's like the deflate Gate. Tom Brady is, yeah,
probably that happened and he got better. Astros are like
the Patriots. They got caught doing something that nobody was
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comfortable with and they're better after.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
What about the Patriots?
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Did they get spygate? Thing was like that was a real.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
And by the way, then it stopped and they were
even more dominant. Like at some point, I mean the Patriots,
he kept getting them and they kept winning multiple super
Bowls after Houston, everybody hates them. Now you know they're
clean and they keep dominating. Now I'm not again, this
is not like they cheated. They won. Everybody discovered the
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magic potion and they stumped the Patriots, and Astros are
arguably as good or better than those years. So at
some point they got punished. Maybe not enough, but they
got both got punished draft picks, but they're better after. Yeah,
so it's like, hey, they got nabbed. They were punished.
Like if you're audited by the irs, and most rich
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people are, it'd be one thing if you never succeeded
after that, but if the next twenty years after your
audit you continue to flourish.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
You got audited, so on you know that game we
haven't done this in a while. We have thirty seconds
here that game with the where we name eighties baseball
players back and forth. You w at Texas Rangers nineteen
eighties baseball players.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
I don't want I have eight guys in the chamber ready.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Pete Incavilia, Oh yeah, yeah, that's a great one.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
I think he played at Oklahoma State. I don't know
about that incub Texas Rangers, Ieay Nolan Ryan? Was that about?
Speaker 8 (32:46):
Dang it?
Speaker 4 (32:46):
That was Ruffael Pomiro. Yeah, he might have been nineties.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
But let me think of somebody else. Was Michael Young?
That was way after that?
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Who was u Sierra?
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Rubin Sierra? Yeah, I finally got let's be honest. That
team out a uniform. Now they may have been on
a substance, but those guys filled out a uniform. They
look like a pro football team. Huh No, it's like
the Phillies. When you watch the Phillies now, they look
like a football team. Yeah, like those guys. You do
not want to get into a fight with. Philadelphia's got
dudes everywhere. Those Ranger teams. I don't know what it was,
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but they their protein count was way out. I think
they didn't want to get a weight listing.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
I don't think people want to get a dust up
with us. You're here hitting the gym every day. We
know what I bring to the table. I mean goodness great.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Maybe we should do some like tag team wrestling against
another radio show.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Let's not do that. No, doesn't appeal to We want
to smoke? Yeah, I don't want. I don't want. I
don't smoke and I don't want to smoke. J Mack
with the news.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
I was up late last night. I had a podcast
to do after and then I was out. That couldn't
I just went to bed last night two fifty five,
staring at the ceiling. Wow, didn't sleep at all out night.
And look at the energy. I'm out here dropping rants
that are change in the industry. I'm working on two hours.
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I'm sleep less than a squirrel. I slept two hours
last night.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
The squirrel's not slept. I didn't have believe.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
I've never seen a sleeping squirrel. They're always moving on trees.
They don't sleep. That's my interpretation. We'll take a break
tomorrow's headlines today.
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Speaker 1 (35:17):
By j Mac. Week seven, last week low scoring games.
Will it continue? Our segment is called Tomorrow's Headlines. Today,
let's go to your picks. The Raiders Bears playing backups.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
How can you not be attracted to this game? Colin?
I love it? It's in the Windy City. The headline will.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Be show me the Mooney Bears secure the beige in
to give me the young kid, the undrafted rookie in
an upset. I know everybody's excited to hate DeVante Adams.
Jay he's talking about he's upset. You know they're getting
the ball to him. I'll fine bring it on.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
The Raiders should not be favored on the road with
Hoyer or AOC, whoever it is.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Listen, I don't think very highly of the Chicago Bears,
but this young kid undrafted with now a full week
to prepare for a Raiders defense that ain't great outside
of what's his face?
Speaker 4 (36:09):
Crosby off the edge.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Listen, Matt Jones moved the ball last week against him.
Bears are gonna have some chances. This is a Bears team,
you know. I think the best skill position player in
the game probably DJ.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Moore, excellent for the for the Bears. I think he
has a game. Give me the Bears to win outright.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Tomorrow's headlines today, you're choosing the ugly Ones Browns.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
With the Colts.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Well, it wouldn't be fun if we all picked the
problem queens every year.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Every week with the headline will be Joku's on you,
Brown's hide the Colts Keys. I think the Browns, who
you know, are not the sharp side this week because
they just beat the forty nine ers. But it looks
like I've been following the practice report here during the show.
Looks like Deshaun Watson is going to go Miles Garrett
hyping in like it's a really good bet, but it's
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probably not gonna be three anymore. I just I saw
some numbers on Gardner Minshew, like if he's coming in
in like the second quarter because of an injury, he's
solid as a starter two and eleven straight up, two
and ten against the spread, not just not delivering when
he has to start, and teams could prepare well.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
Jim Schwartz is gonna prepare a lot of pressure with four.
Can sit back. I think the Browns win handily and listen,
this is a team. Don't sleep on Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
In the AFC, Tomorrow's headlines today Commanders and the Giants,
and I got burned on the Commanders.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
I'm off then, yeah, yeah, what do you need when
you get a burned you know, and.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
The headline will be Alo rivera Commanders burn big Blue.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
I don't think Cowhard saw the headline before.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
This is just me fading the New York Giants and
that abomination. You know, they have not rebounded since the
Brotherly Shove, and they lost offensive lineman got injured on
that play.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
They're still not healthy, Colin. It is really bad.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Now.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Daniel Jones is back at practice, but I'm not sure
if he's gonna start.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
With the next Probably.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
I just Washington should dominate the trenches with that defensive line.
Speaker 6 (38:04):
Now.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
The problem here is backing Sam Howell, who is on
track to be the most set quarterback in NFL history.
They can't get margin, but I do think they do
enough to win here. This Giant's team looks depleted, deflated.
I think they're cooked for the season.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Colin.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
I like Washington win on the road.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
I will say this, I'll give you credit. You are
picking the ugliest games. I mean, honestly, these are not
only corner TV games. I'd put them on like my
phone beyond my corner. I mean, these are bad games. Now,
finally you got a good one. Okay, Tomorrow's headlines today
Week seven Lions at Ravens. This is fine.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
I've gone back and forth on this one a lot,
and ultimately I just can't get past one fact. The
headline will be he went to Jared Ravens, bet meed
to King of the North. Give me Jared Goff going
on the road. Pulling a big upset here. Now it
appears as if the running back situation in Detroit is
muddled with the injuries. But Jamiir Gibbs will play. That's
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the latest report we got. Jamiir Gibbs will play the rookie,
which is gonna be huge.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
I'm excited to watch that.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Keep an eye on Marcus Williams in the secondary hamstring
for the Ravens safety. Very good playmaker on the back
end out. I would take a flyer on Jamison Williams,
the young kid. The young kid at A with a burner.
He could take advantage of the secondary issues. Kyle Hamilton's
more of an in the box safety for Baltimore. If
Detroit pulls this off, Colin, go ahead and pencil him
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in number one seed in the NFC. I know everybody
loves hey, Oh Dad, Campbell's team has struggled to stop
running quarterback Justin.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Field runs wild. Listen.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
They've known this is coming for a while they should
be ready for Lamar, who's not running as much.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
If you notice that he's not running as much.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
But he's playing great.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
Lamar's very good. We'll see Aiden Hutchinson's up for the challenge.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Finally, Tomorrow's headlines today, I didn't take this one. I
think I division rival Lot had taken seven, seven and
a half Cardinals at Seattle. What say you?
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Well, you know I didn't want to copy you with
San fran which I bet. I didn't want to copy
you with Philly, which I'm on. So I said, let
me go with my biggest play of the week. The
headline will be the great beam Gino Cardinals are going
going you like I do.
Speaker 4 (40:09):
The numbers kind of pinged around.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
DK Metcalf is not really practiced this week, but I
don't think it's a big concern. Listen, Arizona is just
fading fast. Colin the depletion in the secondary. They just
don't have the horses outscored more than anyone in the
second half, outscored more than anyone in the fourth quarter.
They just seem to run out of gas. You saw
the Rams game last year. Control in the first half.
You want if you want to bet Arizona bet the
first half because in the second half they fall apart.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
The game plan's not there. And this is a Seattle
team going.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Home right off off a tough loss to Cincinnati, where
we then kind of agree they were the better side.
I think the arrow is pointing up for Seattle. And
you heard our guest here this hour talk about that
Seattle defense. Yeah, they could have their way with Arizona
and Josh Dobbs. He doesn't want to run against these
hard hitting safeties.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
I like Seattle here.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
By the way, Gino Smith has obviously been a remarkable story.
He was a total whiff in New York, not mature.
He acknowledged that. Then he ends up in Seattle, and
it's a story of redemption, which, by the way, it's
the great American story. People get second chances. So Gino
Smith is impossible not to root for. I find Baker Mayfield,
believe it or not impossible in Tampa not to root
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for now. I was very critical Baker Mayfield for years.
He came on the show, he was a great sport.
We fired back and forth, and I really did enjoy it.
He was great, and I've said this before. He's absolutely
a franchise quarterback. I didn't think maturity. I didn't think
he was quite fit in Cleveland. Now, some of that's
Cleveland's dysfunction in all their nonsense. But I think Tampa.
I think he's the best quarterback in that division, and
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I do think now watching the Derek Carr Saints, I
think Tampa's got a shot to win it. So Mark
Schlareth is doing their game this week, meaning Mark is
now in Tampa. And so Mark and I told him
the other day, oh, you're doing the Baker game, and
Mark said he was going to do this.
Speaker 6 (41:56):
Color.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
I'll let Baker know you said hot.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
By the way, he doesn't think I like him, That
is totally false. I love this story. I think he's
going to be the next superstar in college football analyst work.
So I want you to say I say hi earnestly
and sincerely, because I am rooting for him. I absolutely am.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Okay, we'll take a picture and we'll send it to him.
We'll send it to you. Well, he and I are
going to take a picture, We're going to send it
to you.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
I will frame it. I will frame it, I swear
to you, and hang it in my office. I would
love that. Well, we have the picture. I am going
to frame it and it is going to be in
my office. It was taken today. How awesome is Schlareth
And to Baker for being a good sport. If somebody
would have been as hard on me as I was
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on Baker, I'm not sure I would have the ability
to smile at a picture. To Baker Mayfield's credit, he's
mature enough and resilient enough, and he's had enough people
dump on him in his life that he can handle it,
which I have great admiration for. He's always welcome on
the show. I understand he doesn't want to do that.
I totally get it and respect that, but I am
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rooting for him. I think the Geno Smith story. I
want pro athletes. I know I'm seen as harsh, but
I like all these young people in all these sports.
Ben Simmons drives me nuts. Harden drives me nuts. There
are players that drive me nuts. But in the end,
I love watching sports and so they fulfill my life.
They give me not just content, but they give me
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great enjoyment. Last time, I'm sitting by myself watching the
game for two and a half hours, and I'm loving it.
Thank you to the athlete. So Baker, to his credit,
willing to smile take a picture. And I am genuinely,
I really am. I think I always said thought a
bit of a reach at one, wasn't quite ready for it.
But he's a franchise quarterback and with time to throw,
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which Tampa has given him on most Sundays, he's good.
He can make place.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
Is he beating Atlanta this weekend?
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Well, the wise guys like Atlanta. I do not, but
the wise guys do. I just you know, I go
back to this, underdogs are not covering one of the
things that's happening, and it's happening in real time. Take
the best quarterback today. I took and Jared Town, I
took Lamar. I know I took Justin Herbert over Holmes.
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But their offense is better this year, and I took
better quarterbacks than most of my picks. I think Brock
Purty with that team will be better than Kirk Cousins
on Monday Night Football.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
So one of the things the Sharps have noticed with
Tampa is their early down offense is totally dreadful. They
cannot move the football, they can't run, nothing's working Baker
has been bailing them out on third down with some
wacky scrambles, some wacky that's not sustainable. You can't just
do nothing first and second down and.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
Then third and long. And why I can't think wacky
things happen?
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Why can't they get better on first down?
Speaker 6 (44:45):
Well?
Speaker 4 (44:45):
Can they?
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Well, I don't think it's if they're doing stuff on third,
why can't they do it on first? They're doing it.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
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some dumb stuff out of the gate.
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