August 30, 2024 • 40 mins
**This episode was recorded before Brandon Aiyuk's contract extension with the 49ers.**
Richard Sherman reacts to CeeDee Lamb's new MASSIVE contract extension with the Dallas Cowboys and breaks down what his deal could mean for the futures of Dak Prescott and Micah Parsons, as well as other top wideouts looking for new contracts like San Francisco 49ers star Brandon Aiyuk and the Cincinnati Bengals' Ja'Marr Chase. Richard also explains how worried he is for the 49ers with Aiyuk and Trent Williams holding out in training camp, how he's feeling about the Seattle Seahawks going into the NFL season, why he wasn't surprised that Russell Wilson was named QB1 for the Pittsburgh Steelers over Justin Fields, why NFL players were being haters when they ranked Josh Allen as the most overrated QB in the NFL, and whether he thinks Aaron Rodgers and the New York Jets could be true NFL contenders this season.
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Deltopol Championship. That should always be the expectation. All right, man,
ex you go ahead, welcome back, So you got another
Richard Sherman podcasting. First off, ladies and gentlemen, I just
want to say thank you guys for all the subscriptions,
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a good time on here, and we're gonna have an
outstanding season. But Mitchell CD lamb thirty four million dollars
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a year. Mitchell, and as the person who said he
wasn't a receiver number one, he deserved every penny based
off his performance last year in the year before, he's
their go to guy, the most targets in the league,
I believe, or right up there right one or two
had a great season, been phenomenally consistent for the for
the Dallas Cowboys. But people wonder why it's taking so
(02:32):
long to pay these receivers, and why is this such
an odd year and so many receivers holding out and
so many receivers holding in, and what's the deal, Mitchell,
And the same is true with your boy, Jamar Chase.
Jamar Chase, one of the top receivers in the National
Football League. He wants to get paid like his LSU brethren,
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justin Jefferson. I mean, that was a lot of money
in that room at LSU, Mitchell, there was a lot
of money in that room at a and.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Odell was throwing around a lot of money before they
got paid too. So Richard, let's start with Ceedee Lamb though,
because as you mentioned last year, this time you weren't
his fan. You know you didn't like him. You said
it is I don't dislike him. I know you didn't
dislike him as a human being, but you said, this
guy's not a wide receiver one. I think he proved
(03:21):
a lot of people wrong last year. He's become one
of the faces of the franchise in Dallas, and they
paid him as such, Jerry Jones finally has to bite
the bullet and pay this man. Richard, you got to
talk a little bit more in depth about this wide
receiving market because to me, these numbers have become so extrapolated.
I mean, you got guys getting paid mid thirties now,
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when it seemed like a couple of years ago twenty
million was top end and we thought that was a.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Ton of money. This is blowing that out of the water.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah, Mitchell. Usually the markets grow with the cap pretty consistently,
and it's usually percentages of the cap, and the league
will never outright say it. The owners have never outright
say it, but that's how they always systematically did it.
It'd be you know, Corners and receivers are right around
ten to twelve percent of the cap, depending on which
one it is, what year it is, sometimes a little higher,
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sometimes a little lower. Quarterbacks are right between seventeen and
twenty percent of the cap, higher or lower, whatever, I mean,
those numbers probably still just about they're still just about even.
But the receiver market in the corner market are usually
married right around one or two million dollars difference. Top
receivers getting twenty the top corners probably getting eighteen and
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then one day, I don't know when it was. I
think maybe Davante are Tyreek. They broke it. They broke
the system, you know, one of those teams broke it.
In the corner receiver market, the gap between them just
became tremendous. I think the top corner may be right
around twenty one million right now, the top receivers at
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thirty five. It's never been a fourteen million dollar gap.
And that's the problem with the league right now, Menchell,
because if you ask any GM, you ask any team,
you act probably a casual fan, the importance of each
position when it comes to a football team. If you're
building a roster and you said who are you picking first,
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you go with your quarterback first. So that's why they
get paid the most. Then it's a debate. If you're
offensive guy, you say left tackle, if your defensive guy,
you say d ND or corner. You know, get to
the quarterback, things like that, but you never say receiver.
I don't think anybody's building their team receiver first, and
no offense to the receivers. They're doing a great job,
and hey, it's their world. We're just living in it
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there they should be taking advantage as they are. But
that's what's wrong with the market right now. When receivers
are getting paid more than left tackles, then then the
the algorithm is off. Mental, the team building algorithm is off,
and there needs to be a correction. And I don't
know when it's gonna happen, because for all intents and purposes,
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the receivers are going to continue to push the market
as they should. And just like Trent Williams is looking
at that, he's looking at these receivers like, you mean,
thirty five million for a receiver. I'm a left tackle
and you're telling me twenty eight twenty nine million, Like, no,
I want thirty five rightfully, so because the most valuable position,
it's it's a changer. Like receivers can get hurt and
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you can find a guy comparable, you know, maybe not
top guys like Justin Jefferson and Tyreek, you know what
I mean, but you can find usually find a guy
that can be productive and keep your offense going, you know,
I mean, you look at the Kansas City Chiefs last year.
What thirty million dollar receiver that they have when they
want it? And that's back to back. They don't got it.
I don't think they've had a thirty million dollar receiver
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when they've won it. And not to say you can't
do it that way, but it's just rare. It's rare
to see a team do it with a receiver as
you're one of your highest paid guys in this new
day and age, because it's such a it's such a
disproportionate number right now that it's getting ridiculous, and that's
why it's harder. I called this three years ago that
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Jamar Chase is gonna have a hard time getting paid Mitchell.
I said it.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I remember, still true.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Because Mike Brown is not paying guy. He had to
bite the bullet, and I'm sure he begrudgingly paid Joe Burrow.
Not because Joe Burrow isn't talented and isn't a franchise
quarterback or hasn't performed to deserve the money he has.
Because Mike Brown doesn't want to pay anybody. Mitchell. He
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literally wants to have thirty five men roster if he could,
and have a couple guys playing both sides of the football.
I'm not saying I heard it out of his own mouth.
I'm not saying I've sat in meetings and heard him
say things like that, but that's the mindset they're dealing with.
So when it comes to paying a receiver thirty five million,
because Jamar Chase has a great case to say, Hey,
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justin Jefferson got it, my LSU brethren got it, I
need the same thing. He has a great case to
say that he's been very consistent, been dynamic, arguably one
of the top receivers, if not the top receiver the
National Football League. But it's changing the way teams are building.
You used to pay corners top money. Now corners are
looking at receivers like, how is power receivers getting fourteen
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million more than us? That doesn't that doesn't sound right.
And I don't know what's gonna correct it, but a
correction has to come, and it has to come soon.
So with the Brandon Ayuk situation, it's only making matters
worse in San Francisco because you really don't have to
do anything. But it's gonna challenge a lot of things
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because as he sits on the sideline, it's much easier
when a guy's removed. If guy's removed and you're at
home and you're chilling and a team doesn't see you,
It's it's cool, you know what I mean, you can
you can, you can kind of get away with it.
The team's not seeing you, like like, man, I hope
he gets his money, but it is what it is.
But when you're in inside the building and you're doing
what you're supposed to be doing, working out, treatment, saying
(09:01):
in shape, guys are seeing you. Just human nature kind
of kicks in and you're like, well, if they start losing,
it becomes an issue. If they're winning, Mitchell, it doesn't
become an issue at all for anybody but BA. But
if they start losing, would I would guess some conversations
start to happen and I, you know, BA starts to
get leverage at that point. But this is still a
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league where gouds care about winning, especially a team like
that where a championship window is potentially closing because of
these deals and because of the deals coming up and
money you gotta pay Trent more. Maybe you can manipulate
that and move the third year to the second to
the first guarantee two years or something to get him
to appease them and get him back in the building.
But they don't get Trent Williams paid the wills. The
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wills are they're not off the car, Mitchell, but they're rattling.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
They're rattling.
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Speaker 1 (11:19):
Richard, I want to talk more about the Niners, but
I want to close the book here a little bit
on this wide receiver market. I got a little conspiracy theory.
You talked a little bit about the new era of conspiracies.
Rich This new era of the NFL one that when
you played, it was.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Kind of trending that way.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
But it seems that the NFL has given so much
leeway to offensive players. We've seen it with all the
rule changes, with the pass interference calls.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
We've seen it with the new hip drop rule.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
We saw it firsthand, Richard in Detroit in the NFL draft,
when I think eighty percent of the first round picks
were offensive players. I mean, you saw guys cornerbacks, top
flight torner cornerbacks, slipping and sliding all the way down.
My team, the Detroit Lions, one of the beneficiaries of that.
Terry On Arnold, widely considered a top twelve, top fifteen
talent slides all the way to twenty four Richard, Is
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this more that the wide receivers are that much more
valuable or is it just that the league has changed
the way the game has played so much to make
offensive players that much more valuable.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
They are not, Mitchell, because the game has not changed
very much. I mean other than those rules, and they're
getting worse every year. But they haven't changed the value
of the receiver position. But you know what has these guys,
These receivers are showcasing when they get the spotlight. And
you got to give a lot of credit for Odell
Beckham Junior. Not that he was the first one. You know,
there are many great Hall of Fame showmen before Odell
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Beckham Junior, but he brought another microscope to the position.
And then you got to give guys like Justin Jefferson,
Jamar Chase, Deebo Samuels, Brandon Ayu. You know they're out there.
I'mon ra Saint Brown when they get the spotlight. They're
they're doing all the TikTok dances, they're doing all the
hip trends and influencing these kids in a big way.
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And that's the NFL's market. That's a big part of
the market and they're having a well, they're having a
huge impact nationally and potentially globally, especially for this game.
So they're at the forefront of these Madden covers, of
the billboards, of the NFL, of the highlight table. Whenever
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the NFL makes a video, you see Justin Jefferson doing
a gritty You see these receivers scoring touchdowns, celebrating, you know,
they're doing the slime when it gets the first down.
Things like that Mitchell that showcases these guys. So outside,
marketing wise, is phenomenal for those guys, but it hasn't
The game hasn't changed enough for one single receiver to
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be this much more valuable than they I mean, they're
putting the same value on it as a d N
or a guy who can wreck a game. You know,
there aren't very many receivers that could just wreck a
game out there right now. They can be they can
have great games. I mean, you've seen receivers go for
two hundred Tyreek goes off, you know, and have, but
we also saw those receivers get stopped. We saw Lugerious
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Snead have his way with Tyreek Hill in Kansas City
in playoffs when it needs to happen when you got
to have it. So it's not like these guys are like, hey,
you get a great receiver super Bowl. No, that's still
the quarterback position and still only one quarterback that's consistently
getting there. So I don't know what's good, what's gonna
correct it, and it's not. It's not gonna happen right now.
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So guys are gonna continue. But Trent Williams is trying
to do for the tackle market what Davonte Adams and
Tyreek Hill did for the receiver market. He's trying to
jump started above that thirty million dollar barrier and I
think he's gonna be able to.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Do it, and rightfully so, absolutely rightfully so. Well, when
you overpay, I don't want to overpay. When you pay
a wide receiver this amount of money, there's sacrifices that
have got to be made on the other side of
the roster and the quarterback market. This kind of leads
us into the quarterback market, which has become more and
more inflated as the years go on, as a cap
space continues to grow. To think that these guys will
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be getting fifty million plus when we saw Daniel Jones
sign for forty million the other year, You're like, wait
a minute, that Daniel Jones is is somebody else? Is
someone I'm unaware of? That Daniel Jones got forty million bucks.
But now the Cowboys have paid one hundred and thirty
six million dollars of Ceedee Lamb. They're trying to figure
out Michael Parsons and they got this lingering, huge issue
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with Dak Prescott becoming a free agency next year. Richard,
after seeing all these guys, Trevor Lawrence, Jordan love Tua,
everyone getting paid, Jared Goff like, if you're Jerry Jones, Richard,
how the hell do you handle this situation?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Well, you don't have much of a choice. If you're
Jerry Jones. This is the good and bad thing about
grown talent that play out on all pro level. You
don't really got a choice, just like he didn't have
a choice with CD. And CD knew that, and his
agency knew that. It's pretty obvious what you're gonna do
without me. When you've backed yourself in the corner, and
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I'm happy to push you even further into that corner,
you have to pay me. And so with Dak Prescott
seeing Trevor Lawrence get fifty five Trevor Lawrence, what is
Trevor Lawrence want? Trevor Lawrence has a one in eighteen record, Mitchell,
when his defense doesn't cause a turnover, I'm not going
here nor there. I'm just being totally objective about it.
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That's tough. That's a tough stat. Now when you start
to hear whispers about, hey, it's the coach's fault. At
first it was Hey, Urban Meyers solved the problem, or
Urban Meyer was the problem, and Trevor Lawrence just needed
a coach like Doug Peterson to get him back going
to put him on the right track. Now they're kind
of starting to whisper Doug Peterson's the problem. And that's
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when you start to scratch your head, Mitchell. You start
to look at common denominators and and I'm not a
mass math major, but it's starting to look like that's
a bit of an overpay. But now he's up there
with the top paid quarterback. So now you're putting him
in conversations with Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, and then you
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have to ask yourself, is it are these the same
kind of guys and I don't think you're answering that.
And so when Dak Prescott, when Dak Prescott comes to
the table, he's gonna say, Trevor Lawrence got fifty five
million a year. I was the second team All Pro
last year. I'm Trevor Lawrence is debatably a top ten
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quarterback and he's getting top one, top two money. And
so when you start to have those conversations, you're gonna say, hey,
I'm not arguing Jared Goff's money because Jared Goff took
his team to the NFC Championship, He's playing at a
really high level. I'm not arguing Kirk Cousins money. He's
he deserves the money. He's been productive for a really
long time. You can't argue borrow money, Josh Allen, etc.
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Even to a tongue of Iloa. But you can't argue
with them because there are at least probably ten twelve
teams that would take him and he start day one
and they pay him sixty million dollars in not batter
than eyelash. Because the quarterback position is so important to
this game right now. And so I don't know, Mitchell
Jordan Love just got a lot of money. He got
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fifty five a year with a very short resume, and
you gotta take you got to give him all the
credit in the world because again, I didn't think the
Green Bay Packers could strike gold three times in a row.
And it looks like for all intents and purposes, they
have and they paid for and so if he but
it's a very very short window that you've had to
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really diagnose and observe Jordan Love and say, we're gonna
make a decision to give him fifty five million dollars
a year. And now we'll see, we'll see how that
affects the rest of the team. Because the reason it's
saying Francisco forty nine ers are able to do what
they're able to do because they got a seventh round
pick on a rookie contract. That will change dramatically soon
and again that's when that's when the unfortunate cuts and
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trades and renegotiations and it's starting to be magic. And
that's where Prague is gonna have to earn his money
and John Lynchers they're gonna have to earn their money
trying to figure out those puzzle pieces. That's why they're
gonna win. Now, must win situation. But we'll see. I
just I don't know if he has a choice choice
because Mika Parsons is gonna get that money. He's got
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three first team All pros in his first what four years? Mitchell,
that agent is walking up to that negotiation table saying, hey,
a couple million more than both are. We don't even
have a conversation.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Right then, how do you pay the three of them?
I don't know if it's doable.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
I mean, one of these guys might be on the
trading block and it is certainly not going to be
Dak Prescott. So decisions are gonna be had to be made.
And we talked about the last podcast. This is what
happens when you wait. You pay a guy a year earlier,
you know, you don't have to worry about this stuff
as much. That's why I love my guy, Brad Holmes.
He saw Penny sewell, you know he still got another
year on his rookie deal after this one. Hey, we're
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gonna pay him now. We're going to take care of
him now. And guess what he was was the number
one paid tackle in football. Not any longer anymore. Tristan
Wurfs now is and then, like you just said, you
wait till Trent Williams gets paid, because that number is
going to probably go up three four million, and Brad
Holme is going to look like a flat out genius.
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But Richard, I want to talk more about quarterbacks. A
former teammate of years just got named the starting quarterback
in Pittsburgh, the Pittsburgh Steelers, Russell Wilson. There was a
camp battle going on between him and Justin Fields. You
talked about it. Do you think this is the right
move for the Steelers Mike Tomlin, a super Bowl winning
coach going with a super Bowl winning quarterback.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
I don't think there was ever a battle, because in
a situation where there's a battle, I don't think it
happens this way. Because Russell only played sparingly in the preseason.
I want to say he missed a whole week of
training camp, and the QB battle person that misses his
week of training camp usually is against the eight ball,
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and he's gonna have a hard time winning that battle.
But when it's not a quarterback battle, that person's not
worried about that. I always thought Tomlin's a fantastic coach,
never had a losing season, one of the greatest coaches
national football history, national Football League history, and you can
argue with your grandma or somebody, but I don't think
he was gonna go into the season with an unknown.
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You know. Whatever people may say good or bad about
Russell Wilson, I think he had a solid season last year.
Only played fifteen games. I think he had twenty three touchdowns,
only eight interceptions. I think he had a really solid season.
The yards probably weren't there, the yards per attempt weren't there,
But in the chaotic situation that he was in in Denver,
I think he made the best of it and he
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was able to put a solid product out there. So
I don't think you're gonna if you're Tomlin, you're gonna
go with the unknown. You got to hit at least
give him a chance. Now, if things are shaky for
the first four games, you know they start off, you
know one in three, are one in four or something
like that, then I think you know the noise to
make a change. Obviously, Tomlin has never had a losing season,
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so you'd start hearing that that noise gets loud, get
louder and louder. But I don't think that's gonna be
the case. I think he's the reason he's never had
a losing season because he knows the formula that it
takes to win football games, and that formula is good defense,
run the football, limit the mistakes from the quarterback. And
I think that's why they went and got Russell Wilson,
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because he's not gonna make a ton of mistakes. He's
not gonna turn the ball over. They don't need to
pass it twenty five thirty five times a game, and
so they'll they'll probably throw it twenty times twenty two
times a game. They'll run it thirty five forty times,
and they'll get out of these games. They'll call some
chaos defensively with the old school superstars, Cam Hayward Watt
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and the boys, and they'll continue to be a really
good ball club and have a winning season. So I
don't know what will happen throughout the season, but I
know that Tomlin doesn't lose have losing seasons, and I'm
not gonna bank on him doing it now.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
I don't see it either.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I mean, Richard, he took this team to the playoffs
with I'm going to rattle off these quarterbacks here and
probably create a state of shock for you. But can
he Pickett and my namesake Mitchell Trubisky took this guys,
these guys to the playoffs last year. I mean, you
look at the Steelers schedule opening up with Russell starting,
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they play at the Falcons, look like a tough team.
The Broncos will see the Chargers, the Colts. I mean,
those four games are all winnable. I mean, what is
it going to take in your eyes for this team
to move over to Justin Fields because I would think
they want to at least take a look at him
as their starter, seeing that, you know, hey, they might
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be able to get somebody at a discount that they
can keep long term. Unlike Russell Richard. When does when
does this change? When do you see them giving him
that shot?
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Well?
Speaker 3 (24:09):
I only see it if they lose, you know, two
three games in a row early on, and I don't
I don't know if I see that just because of
Tomlin's history more than I think it's something to do
with Russell Wilson, and those games are are winnable. Atlanta
looks really good. Obviously they just signed Justin Simmons. Uh,
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they made a trade. They they Kirk Cousins is gonna
make Drake London and Kyle Pitch look better than they
ever have. I think that's gonna be really cool. But
John Robinson looked really good in his first year. He'll
continue that growth, I believe, as a playmaker. And so
that'll be tough. You know, Denver, you know Sean Payton
will be on his prove it tour, and I'm sure
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Russell will be on his proven tour like who was right?
Who was wrong in this situation? And I think that's
gonna be these games. I wouldn't put anything past the
Coats because they always seem to be a hard out
for people and they'll do things the right way. So
but I don't I don't think. I don't think Justin
Field showed enough in the preseason for them to go
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out and say, all right, man, we're gonna start him
over Russell. Obviously it was clear and obvious what we're doing,
what he was able to do. He's clear and obviously
the better quarterback. He's a great athlete, and I'm sure
they'll put packages in for him to get him out
on the field, put the ball in his hands, let
him make some plays. But I can't see them pulling
Russell unless the Wills just absolutely fall off and Talman's
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not gonna let that happen.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Yeah, well, we shall see another quarterback. I want to
talk a little bit about Josh Allen with the Bills.
He was just named the most overrated QB by the
NFL players. I personally find that hard to believe. I mean,
he won me my fantasy league last year. Rich, What
what do you think of Josh Allen? Would you term
(25:59):
him over rated?
Speaker 3 (26:01):
No? No, I wouldn't turn him overrated. He hasn't won
in the playoffs a time. He has the same stigma
everybody else does, but I don't think it's any fault
of his own. I think he's averaging seventy percent completion
percentage three hundred yards and not a great number of
turnovers in the playoffs, So I wouldn't say I would
call him overrated by any stretch. I think he's one
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of the best quarterbacks in the National Football League and
he's played that way, so to call him overrated just
seems uneducated, uninformed, or haterish. Because he led the league
in touchdowns total touchdowns last year with I think forty
one or forty two and he's just really played at
a high level. Even in the playoffs. He's just running
to people that are better. He's running into better teams,
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better quarterbacks. Joe Burrows got him a couple of times.
My Homes gets him just about every time, and you thought,
maybe it'll be this different this year. It's January, they're
in Buffalo, but he's just you know, I just can't
get past him.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
All right, let's talk about your niners. Rich We we
kind of touched down it a little bit, but I
want to take a deeper dive here, Like what level
of worry do you have right now over this Brandon
Ayuk situation? Because as an outsider's perspective, it seems like
it's a tremendously huge deal. The fact that this could
linger into Week one. You gotta worry about paying him
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big bucks, and then the back end of that, you
gotta worry about Trent Williams and Brock Purdy. Where does
this dust all settle in San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
My worry level was at the beginning of training campus
is probably at like a four. Just trust John Lynch,
I trust Kyle. I trust they've had a great organization.
But it goes back to your point, the front office
gambled in a gamble, and this is the gamble that
front offices take sometimes that sometimes it pays off, sometimes
it doesn't. And you don't ever, ever ever want to
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wish injury or think injury on the player. But these
front offices, they got to let it play out just
in case, you know that, just in case, hey, something happens,
you get a you get a knee injury, you get
an ankle injury. Then that price goes down substantially, and then
we're negotiating from a whole different space. But that's the
risk you take when you wait. You could go earlier
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and maybe you get him for twenty five and everybody's happy,
Hey we got him in the year three for twenty five.
You're not thinking, hey, he's gonna cost thirty three in
year five, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Right?
Speaker 3 (28:21):
But I think they should have went early on him.
I think they should have went early on on Bosa.
I think they should have went early on a number
of guys and got those prices down. But I mean,
we are here now, so I'm concerned more about Trent
Williams than I am Brandon Hyuk because I think at
least they're having conversations, you know, just a human nature
element of it. I think they'll be able to come
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to some sort of deal. But Trent Williams is much
more important to this offense. Not that BA isn't a
tremendous asset and tremendously important in a foundational piece, but
that left tackle. You could see it in the preseason.
I mean, you don't want your starting quarterback getting hit.
I think I saw a drive. I mean I saw
one game where Brock dropped back fourteen times and he
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got hit nine of them. This is the preseason. Guys
aren't running anything exotic. They're not running any crazy pressures,
nothing that should confuse the offensive line. But when you're
missing such a huge, the best left tackle in football,
it's gonna show. And their old line is designed to
slide away from him. Let him take the hard job,
and everybody else, Hey, we're blocking him by committee. Cool,
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got that. When you can't do that, it exposes Colton
mckivitz a little bit. It exposed you know, it exposed
a lot of things if it exposed some deficiencies within
their offensive line. And I think again it helps Trent's
case because He's like, look, I'll see what it could
be without me. Do you really want to sign up
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for that? Because I'm not showing up until you give
me what I'm asking for. And I have no idea.
I have no idea what he's asking for. I would
guess it's thirty plus million, and I would guess they
find a way to get that done because if they
start the season without him, and even then once he comes,
Mitchell he's a vet vet. So I'm not worried about Trent,
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if I'm being honest, I'm not worried about him coming
in out of shape or having to adjust or anything
like that. But there's that aspect.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Well, if memory serves me right, wasn't Trent Williams out
for that three game losing streak last year that the
Niners went on. I mean, Richard, this guy's value to
this team. I mean, he might be the most valuable
player for the San Francisco forty nine ers. And to
say that about a left tackle that might shock some people,
but he is that good and when he's not on
the field, it's noticeable. So the Niners, I think John
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Lynch has made one mistake over the last couple of years,
maybe a couple, maybe not paying these guys early. But
the biggest mistake I think he made was a contract
for Javon Hargrave, because that contract right there caused them
to lose to Forrest Buckner, you know, and now they
got this Brandon Ayuk situation going on. If you don't
pay that guy and roll with who you got, things
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might be a little bit different in San Francisco. But
hindsight is always twenty twenty rich and we'll see what
happens from here. But let's go a little bit further north, Richard,
to your homeland, Seattle. I know you stopped by training
camp for a little bit. The Seahawks was pretty darn
good in that last game. They let they let the
big dogs eat a little bit. You saw DK getting
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the end zone, you saw JSN do his thing. Like Richard,
what are your thoughts about Seattle because they've kind of
been a dark horse, you know, I don't know what
teams expect out of them this year. Is Seattle legitimate
contender in the NFC West.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
No question, no question about it. They're legitimate, and I
think it's they're poised to have a really great season.
And obviously I think they make the playoffs because they
were built well to begin with. You know, they have
the receiving cores that's explosive. They have the explosive back
in K nine. They got us really solid offensive line
that was really beat up last year. Both tackles are injured.
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I think Lucas is still on the shelf for a
couple weeks, but they bought in George Fant to help
with that transition. Charles Cross is healthy again, and he
looks really good, big monster of a man. I think
that's gonna be good. Gino looks as good as he's
ever been. If you keep him up upright and protected,
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he's as good as anybody right now. You can talk
about his history and whatever. I don't really care about that.
Since he's been in Seattle and he's been the starter,
he's been really good most of the time. Now, he's
had moments where he struggled because they can't keep him
up right. Nobody does well. You're getting hit in the
face every day. You lose both tackles. That's gonna be
tough on anybody on the other side of the ball.
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I think it's where they're gonna take their greatest leap
is because they built this defensive line and it had
me scratching my head for a while, Mitchell, because I
was sitting there like, Okay, y'all are stockpiling a lot
of defensive line men right now. Now you got Jaren Reid,
you got Leonard Williams, you got Byron Murphy, who you
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just took in the first round, and you're like, all right,
that's a lot you still got. You still got Boye
Mafe on the edge. You just traded for a linebacker
to play edge for you. Who am I missing? I'm
miss who was out. Unfortunately nuosus out for the first
four games, but he was probably their best pass rusher
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and was probably gonna benefit the most. I think Jaron
Reid is probably gonna benefit the most, but he's up there.
And I think Byron Murphy is perfect for this system.
And if you just talk about Justin Matabu Metabek from
last year in Baltimore had a career year. I don't
think he had more than three sacks before Mike McDonald
came in and changed that system. And then he comes
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in and has I think twelve or thirteen career year,
and that's crazy. That's Aaron donald numbers for defensive tackle
and so that was really impressive. But that that just
goes to show what Mike McDonald lights and a D
lineman in his D linemen and they have such tremendous depth.
That's what's gonna help them.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
You got a lot more than the D line, too,
rich You've got a Witherspoon. The kid was a stud
last year. I mean, he's got that aggression. I know
you can speak a heck of a lot better than
I can towards cornerback play, but goodness, he's aggressive. And
then you got Tyreek Wooling fast as can be. I mean, Richard,
to me, the Seahawks are a dark horse contender. There's
always that team that rises out of nowhere, and I
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think the Seahawks could be that this year.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
No question. I think the secondary is as good as anybody.
I think Tarik Wooling is set for a career year
at the corner. I think Devin Witherspoon has been everything
they could have imagined and more. You just listen to
Mike McDonald, he closed when talking about him. They're really dynamic,
they're playing fast, they're playing confident. My concern is at
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the linebacker not the down linebackers that they have, but
the guys, the stand up linebackers. It's just lot of
unknowns there. But in terms of the secondary and the
corner play, it's been as good as ever. Feel terrible
for Ardie Burns had an a cl injury and a
preseason non contact. You know, it just didn't look like
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anything really happened on the play, and you know, he
was having a really good training camp, really really poised
to make a big difference for this team. And so
he's out and that's a huge blow to that defense.
And I don't think enough people are talking about that.
And then you got Jordan Love out there. He's gonna
make a he's gonna be really great. Kobe Bryant moved
to safety. That transition is going really well, and so
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it's gonna be fun to watch. It's gonna be fun
and you just can see them amount of pride when
I spoke to the team, That's what I impressed upon them.
That that that I really liked when watching them. It's
just the amount of pride every level. You know, even
when the twos and threes come in, they take pride
and getting stops, getting the ball, getting off the field,
getting three and outs, making a difference, making tackles, and
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I just I just think that had slowly been sliding
away over the last couple of years, but Mike's brought
it back and and I'm excited. And that was them
running all vanilla stuff. They weren't running anything crazy, nothing exotic.
So when they really they got your boy bon Nicks
and Denver coming into town first week, I think it's
gonna be a lot for a rookie quarterback to deal
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with the noise in Seattle. The fans are passionate, They're
excited about a new change and a new team and
the energy. It's gonna be tough for rookie to come
in here and get a win.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
I want to discuss one last topic before we wrap here,
Rich the New York Jets. Right this is Aaron Rodgers
finally gets his moment after whatever it was five plays
last year going down with the achilles injury. There's so
much hype around this team. I mean, you see in
so many reports coming out that you know they're one
of the top five rosters in football. A lot of
people are picking them to go to the NFC, their
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AFC Championship game, like, what are your true expectations of
Aaron Rodgers and.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
The Jets is it? Is it just hype or is
this more realistic.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
It's definitely realistic. I mean, if you just look at
the defense last year, in the last couple of years,
they've been really good. That's what you hate that they're
getting wasted. You know, I hate when great defense just
gets wasted because of bad quarterback play or bad offensive
play or injuries on the offensive side, because they deserve
to go into playoffs with how hard and how well
they were playing against them of the top offenses, because
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they got to deal with Miami and all their speed
and Mike McDaniel's dynamic play calling and Buffalo with Josh
Allen and everything Stefan Diggs was bringing before they got
rid of him. And so I I'm really excited for him.
I hope it pans out exactly like they just because
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Saalah is a great dude, a great coach. They deserve it,
their fans deserve it. They've been in a drought for
a long time. And I hope he goes out there
and you know, for everything Aaron Rodgers is off the
field and all the controversy and you know, all the
on that field, he's still a savant, and he's still
a problem, and he's still an issue, and he's still
one of the greatest players to ever strap up cleats
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in the National Football League or any other football league. Uh.
And so you give him all the respect in the
world as teammates love him, and I'm excited for Garrett
Wilson to have his breakout year after what he's had
to deal with. Even Lazarre, I'm sure he's excited. They're
gonna have a tough, tough first game going to San
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Francisco to Santa Clara. Aaron has just not historically played
well against the San Francis but maybe that changes.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
But I think you've got an interception ball in your
house that that speaks to that a little bit that.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Speaks to that. Yeah, it's a couple couple games where
the score was double digits. Uh, but yeah, it's it's
it's really a great roster. But they just got to
put it all together on this season. You know, if
this is this is the all end season. They've had
good season. They've been a feel good story. Everybody's felt
bad for the tackle situation. I think they lost four
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or five tackles last year, both on the right end,
left side. So I hope everything comes together and they
can just get in the playoffs and make noise and
just play to the to the standard and and and
play to their potential. You know that'd be fun to see.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
No question. Well, Richard, next week, I could not be
more pumped up. Man.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
This is gonna be the return of the NFL season,
but more importantly, it's the.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
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Speaker 1 (39:29):
I mean, that's that is what I'm personally most excited for.
Next week, we will have our season preview. We'll do
all your picks for MVP, Defensive Player of the year,
who you see winning it. I can't wait, Richard. I
will let you wrap this thing up.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Mitchell. I will have a hard time not putting. There's
not gonna your Detroit Lions may make an appearance, Mitchell. There.
They've earned a lot of respect, they built a team culture.
It's hard to bet against them right now, Mitchell.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Sorry, Richard, they're gonna be in your top five, but
I don't think they're gonna be two, three, four or five,
my friend.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Right right, right right, I don't know, Mitchell, I'm not
still you know, still got calculations, my algorithm still putting information.
But what we appreciate you guys joining us as always.
Thanks for listening. Wherever you are in the world. You
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Deltopol Championship. That should always be the expectation. All right, man,
ex you go ahead, welcome back, So you got another
Richard Sherman podcasting. First off, ladies and gentlemen, I just
want to say thank you guys for all the subscriptions,
for following, for watching our videos. We'd like to have
a good time on here, and we're gonna have an
outstanding season. But Mitchell CD lamb thirty four million dollars
(02:07):
a year. Mitchell, and as the person who said he
wasn't a receiver number one, he deserved every penny based
off his performance last year in the year before, he's
their go to guy, the most targets in the league,
I believe, or right up there right one or two
had a great season, been phenomenally consistent for the for
the Dallas Cowboys. But people wonder why it's taking so
(02:32):
long to pay these receivers, and why is this such
an odd year and so many receivers holding out and
so many receivers holding in, and what's the deal, Mitchell,
And the same is true with your boy, Jamar Chase.
Jamar Chase, one of the top receivers in the National
Football League. He wants to get paid like his LSU brethren,
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justin Jefferson. I mean, that was a lot of money
in that room at LSU, Mitchell, there was a lot
of money in that room at a and.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Odell was throwing around a lot of money before they
got paid too. So Richard, let's start with Ceedee Lamb though,
because as you mentioned last year, this time you weren't
his fan. You know you didn't like him. You said
it is I don't dislike him. I know you didn't
dislike him as a human being, but you said, this
guy's not a wide receiver one. I think he proved
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a lot of people wrong last year. He's become one
of the faces of the franchise in Dallas, and they
paid him as such, Jerry Jones finally has to bite
the bullet and pay this man. Richard, you got to
talk a little bit more in depth about this wide
receiving market because to me, these numbers have become so extrapolated.
I mean, you got guys getting paid mid thirties now,
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when it seemed like a couple of years ago twenty
million was top end and we thought that was a.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Ton of money. This is blowing that out of the water.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah, Mitchell. Usually the markets grow with the cap pretty consistently,
and it's usually percentages of the cap, and the league
will never outright say it. The owners have never outright
say it, but that's how they always systematically did it.
It'd be you know, Corners and receivers are right around
ten to twelve percent of the cap, depending on which
one it is, what year it is, sometimes a little higher,
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sometimes a little lower. Quarterbacks are right between seventeen and
twenty percent of the cap, higher or lower, whatever, I mean,
those numbers probably still just about they're still just about even.
But the receiver market in the corner market are usually
married right around one or two million dollars difference. Top
receivers getting twenty the top corners probably getting eighteen and
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then one day, I don't know when it was. I
think maybe Davante are Tyreek. They broke it. They broke
the system, you know, one of those teams broke it.
In the corner receiver market, the gap between them just
became tremendous. I think the top corner may be right
around twenty one million right now, the top receivers at
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thirty five. It's never been a fourteen million dollar gap.
And that's the problem with the league right now, Menchell,
because if you ask any GM, you ask any team,
you act probably a casual fan, the importance of each
position when it comes to a football team. If you're
building a roster and you said who are you picking first,
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you go with your quarterback first. So that's why they
get paid the most. Then it's a debate. If you're
offensive guy, you say left tackle, if your defensive guy,
you say d ND or corner. You know, get to
the quarterback, things like that, but you never say receiver.
I don't think anybody's building their team receiver first, and
no offense to the receivers. They're doing a great job,
and hey, it's their world. We're just living in it
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there they should be taking advantage as they are. But
that's what's wrong with the market right now. When receivers
are getting paid more than left tackles, then then the
the algorithm is off. Mental, the team building algorithm is off,
and there needs to be a correction. And I don't
know when it's gonna happen, because for all intents and purposes,
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the receivers are going to continue to push the market
as they should. And just like Trent Williams is looking
at that, he's looking at these receivers like, you mean,
thirty five million for a receiver. I'm a left tackle
and you're telling me twenty eight twenty nine million, Like, no,
I want thirty five rightfully, so because the most valuable position,
it's it's a changer. Like receivers can get hurt and
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you can find a guy comparable, you know, maybe not
top guys like Justin Jefferson and Tyreek, you know what
I mean, but you can find usually find a guy
that can be productive and keep your offense going, you know,
I mean, you look at the Kansas City Chiefs last year.
What thirty million dollar receiver that they have when they
want it? And that's back to back. They don't got it.
I don't think they've had a thirty million dollar receiver
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when they've won it. And not to say you can't
do it that way, but it's just rare. It's rare
to see a team do it with a receiver as
you're one of your highest paid guys in this new
day and age, because it's such a it's such a
disproportionate number right now that it's getting ridiculous, and that's
why it's harder. I called this three years ago that
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Jamar Chase is gonna have a hard time getting paid Mitchell.
I said it.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I remember, still true.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Because Mike Brown is not paying guy. He had to
bite the bullet, and I'm sure he begrudgingly paid Joe Burrow.
Not because Joe Burrow isn't talented and isn't a franchise
quarterback or hasn't performed to deserve the money he has.
Because Mike Brown doesn't want to pay anybody. Mitchell. He
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literally wants to have thirty five men roster if he could,
and have a couple guys playing both sides of the football.
I'm not saying I heard it out of his own mouth.
I'm not saying I've sat in meetings and heard him
say things like that, but that's the mindset they're dealing with.
So when it comes to paying a receiver thirty five million,
because Jamar Chase has a great case to say, Hey,
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justin Jefferson got it, my LSU brethren got it, I
need the same thing. He has a great case to
say that he's been very consistent, been dynamic, arguably one
of the top receivers, if not the top receiver the
National Football League. But it's changing the way teams are building.
You used to pay corners top money. Now corners are
looking at receivers like, how is power receivers getting fourteen
(08:19):
million more than us? That doesn't that doesn't sound right.
And I don't know what's gonna correct it, but a
correction has to come, and it has to come soon.
So with the Brandon Ayuk situation, it's only making matters
worse in San Francisco because you really don't have to
do anything. But it's gonna challenge a lot of things
(08:40):
because as he sits on the sideline, it's much easier
when a guy's removed. If guy's removed and you're at
home and you're chilling and a team doesn't see you,
It's it's cool, you know what I mean, you can
you can, you can kind of get away with it.
The team's not seeing you, like like, man, I hope
he gets his money, but it is what it is.
But when you're in inside the building and you're doing
what you're supposed to be doing, working out, treatment, saying
(09:01):
in shape, guys are seeing you. Just human nature kind
of kicks in and you're like, well, if they start losing,
it becomes an issue. If they're winning, Mitchell, it doesn't
become an issue at all for anybody but BA. But
if they start losing, would I would guess some conversations
start to happen and I, you know, BA starts to
get leverage at that point. But this is still a
(09:24):
league where gouds care about winning, especially a team like
that where a championship window is potentially closing because of
these deals and because of the deals coming up and
money you gotta pay Trent more. Maybe you can manipulate
that and move the third year to the second to
the first guarantee two years or something to get him
to appease them and get him back in the building.
But they don't get Trent Williams paid the wills. The
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Speaker 1 (11:19):
Richard, I want to talk more about the Niners, but
I want to close the book here a little bit
on this wide receiver market. I got a little conspiracy theory.
You talked a little bit about the new era of conspiracies.
Rich This new era of the NFL one that when
you played, it was.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Kind of trending that way.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
But it seems that the NFL has given so much
leeway to offensive players. We've seen it with all the
rule changes, with the pass interference calls.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
We've seen it with the new hip drop rule.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
We saw it firsthand, Richard in Detroit in the NFL draft,
when I think eighty percent of the first round picks
were offensive players. I mean, you saw guys cornerbacks, top
flight torner cornerbacks, slipping and sliding all the way down.
My team, the Detroit Lions, one of the beneficiaries of that.
Terry On Arnold, widely considered a top twelve, top fifteen
talent slides all the way to twenty four Richard, Is
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this more that the wide receivers are that much more
valuable or is it just that the league has changed
the way the game has played so much to make
offensive players that much more valuable.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
They are not, Mitchell, because the game has not changed
very much. I mean other than those rules, and they're
getting worse every year. But they haven't changed the value
of the receiver position. But you know what has these guys,
These receivers are showcasing when they get the spotlight. And
you got to give a lot of credit for Odell
Beckham Junior. Not that he was the first one. You know,
there are many great Hall of Fame showmen before Odell
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Beckham Junior, but he brought another microscope to the position.
And then you got to give guys like Justin Jefferson,
Jamar Chase, Deebo Samuels, Brandon Ayu. You know they're out there.
I'mon ra Saint Brown when they get the spotlight. They're
they're doing all the TikTok dances, they're doing all the
hip trends and influencing these kids in a big way.
(13:13):
And that's the NFL's market. That's a big part of
the market and they're having a well, they're having a
huge impact nationally and potentially globally, especially for this game.
So they're at the forefront of these Madden covers, of
the billboards, of the NFL, of the highlight table. Whenever
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the NFL makes a video, you see Justin Jefferson doing
a gritty You see these receivers scoring touchdowns, celebrating, you know,
they're doing the slime when it gets the first down.
Things like that Mitchell that showcases these guys. So outside,
marketing wise, is phenomenal for those guys, but it hasn't
The game hasn't changed enough for one single receiver to
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be this much more valuable than they I mean, they're
putting the same value on it as a d N
or a guy who can wreck a game. You know,
there aren't very many receivers that could just wreck a
game out there right now. They can be they can
have great games. I mean, you've seen receivers go for
two hundred Tyreek goes off, you know, and have, but
we also saw those receivers get stopped. We saw Lugerious
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Snead have his way with Tyreek Hill in Kansas City
in playoffs when it needs to happen when you got
to have it. So it's not like these guys are like, hey,
you get a great receiver super Bowl. No, that's still
the quarterback position and still only one quarterback that's consistently
getting there. So I don't know what's good, what's gonna
correct it, and it's not. It's not gonna happen right now.
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So guys are gonna continue. But Trent Williams is trying
to do for the tackle market what Davonte Adams and
Tyreek Hill did for the receiver market. He's trying to
jump started above that thirty million dollar barrier and I
think he's gonna be able to.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Do it, and rightfully so, absolutely rightfully so. Well, when
you overpay, I don't want to overpay. When you pay
a wide receiver this amount of money, there's sacrifices that
have got to be made on the other side of
the roster and the quarterback market. This kind of leads
us into the quarterback market, which has become more and
more inflated as the years go on, as a cap
space continues to grow. To think that these guys will
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be getting fifty million plus when we saw Daniel Jones
sign for forty million the other year, You're like, wait
a minute, that Daniel Jones is is somebody else? Is
someone I'm unaware of? That Daniel Jones got forty million bucks.
But now the Cowboys have paid one hundred and thirty
six million dollars of Ceedee Lamb. They're trying to figure
out Michael Parsons and they got this lingering, huge issue
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with Dak Prescott becoming a free agency next year. Richard,
after seeing all these guys, Trevor Lawrence, Jordan love Tua,
everyone getting paid, Jared Goff like, if you're Jerry Jones, Richard,
how the hell do you handle this situation?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Well, you don't have much of a choice. If you're
Jerry Jones. This is the good and bad thing about
grown talent that play out on all pro level. You
don't really got a choice, just like he didn't have
a choice with CD. And CD knew that, and his
agency knew that. It's pretty obvious what you're gonna do
without me. When you've backed yourself in the corner, and
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I'm happy to push you even further into that corner,
you have to pay me. And so with Dak Prescott
seeing Trevor Lawrence get fifty five Trevor Lawrence, what is
Trevor Lawrence want? Trevor Lawrence has a one in eighteen record, Mitchell,
when his defense doesn't cause a turnover, I'm not going
here nor there. I'm just being totally objective about it.
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That's tough. That's a tough stat. Now when you start
to hear whispers about, hey, it's the coach's fault. At
first it was Hey, Urban Meyers solved the problem, or
Urban Meyer was the problem, and Trevor Lawrence just needed
a coach like Doug Peterson to get him back going
to put him on the right track. Now they're kind
of starting to whisper Doug Peterson's the problem. And that's
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when you start to scratch your head, Mitchell. You start
to look at common denominators and and I'm not a
mass math major, but it's starting to look like that's
a bit of an overpay. But now he's up there
with the top paid quarterback. So now you're putting him
in conversations with Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, and then you
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have to ask yourself, is it are these the same
kind of guys and I don't think you're answering that.
And so when Dak Prescott, when Dak Prescott comes to
the table, he's gonna say, Trevor Lawrence got fifty five
million a year. I was the second team All Pro
last year. I'm Trevor Lawrence is debatably a top ten
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quarterback and he's getting top one, top two money. And
so when you start to have those conversations, you're gonna say, hey,
I'm not arguing Jared Goff's money because Jared Goff took
his team to the NFC Championship, He's playing at a
really high level. I'm not arguing Kirk Cousins money. He's
he deserves the money. He's been productive for a really
long time. You can't argue borrow money, Josh Allen, etc.
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Even to a tongue of Iloa. But you can't argue
with them because there are at least probably ten twelve
teams that would take him and he start day one
and they pay him sixty million dollars in not batter
than eyelash. Because the quarterback position is so important to
this game right now. And so I don't know, Mitchell
Jordan Love just got a lot of money. He got
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fifty five a year with a very short resume, and
you gotta take you got to give him all the
credit in the world because again, I didn't think the
Green Bay Packers could strike gold three times in a row.
And it looks like for all intents and purposes, they
have and they paid for and so if he but
it's a very very short window that you've had to
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really diagnose and observe Jordan Love and say, we're gonna
make a decision to give him fifty five million dollars
a year. And now we'll see, we'll see how that
affects the rest of the team. Because the reason it's
saying Francisco forty nine ers are able to do what
they're able to do because they got a seventh round
pick on a rookie contract. That will change dramatically soon
and again that's when that's when the unfortunate cuts and
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trades and renegotiations and it's starting to be magic. And
that's where Prague is gonna have to earn his money
and John Lynchers they're gonna have to earn their money
trying to figure out those puzzle pieces. That's why they're
gonna win. Now, must win situation. But we'll see. I
just I don't know if he has a choice choice
because Mika Parsons is gonna get that money. He's got
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three first team All pros in his first what four years? Mitchell,
that agent is walking up to that negotiation table saying, hey,
a couple million more than both are. We don't even
have a conversation.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Right then, how do you pay the three of them?
I don't know if it's doable.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
I mean, one of these guys might be on the
trading block and it is certainly not going to be
Dak Prescott. So decisions are gonna be had to be made.
And we talked about the last podcast. This is what
happens when you wait. You pay a guy a year earlier,
you know, you don't have to worry about this stuff
as much. That's why I love my guy, Brad Holmes.
He saw Penny sewell, you know he still got another
year on his rookie deal after this one. Hey, we're
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gonna pay him now. We're going to take care of
him now. And guess what he was was the number
one paid tackle in football. Not any longer anymore. Tristan
Wurfs now is and then, like you just said, you
wait till Trent Williams gets paid, because that number is
going to probably go up three four million, and Brad
Holme is going to look like a flat out genius.
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But Richard, I want to talk more about quarterbacks. A
former teammate of years just got named the starting quarterback
in Pittsburgh, the Pittsburgh Steelers, Russell Wilson. There was a
camp battle going on between him and Justin Fields. You
talked about it. Do you think this is the right
move for the Steelers Mike Tomlin, a super Bowl winning
coach going with a super Bowl winning quarterback.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
I don't think there was ever a battle, because in
a situation where there's a battle, I don't think it
happens this way. Because Russell only played sparingly in the preseason.
I want to say he missed a whole week of
training camp, and the QB battle person that misses his
week of training camp usually is against the eight ball,
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and he's gonna have a hard time winning that battle.
But when it's not a quarterback battle, that person's not
worried about that. I always thought Tomlin's a fantastic coach,
never had a losing season, one of the greatest coaches
national football history, national Football League history, and you can
argue with your grandma or somebody, but I don't think
he was gonna go into the season with an unknown.
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You know. Whatever people may say good or bad about
Russell Wilson, I think he had a solid season last year.
Only played fifteen games. I think he had twenty three touchdowns,
only eight interceptions. I think he had a really solid season.
The yards probably weren't there, the yards per attempt weren't there,
But in the chaotic situation that he was in in Denver,
I think he made the best of it and he
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was able to put a solid product out there. So
I don't think you're gonna if you're Tomlin, you're gonna
go with the unknown. You got to hit at least
give him a chance. Now, if things are shaky for
the first four games, you know they start off, you
know one in three, are one in four or something
like that, then I think you know the noise to
make a change. Obviously, Tomlin has never had a losing season,
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so you'd start hearing that that noise gets loud, get
louder and louder. But I don't think that's gonna be
the case. I think he's the reason he's never had
a losing season because he knows the formula that it
takes to win football games, and that formula is good defense,
run the football, limit the mistakes from the quarterback. And
I think that's why they went and got Russell Wilson,
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because he's not gonna make a ton of mistakes. He's
not gonna turn the ball over. They don't need to
pass it twenty five thirty five times a game, and
so they'll they'll probably throw it twenty times twenty two
times a game. They'll run it thirty five forty times,
and they'll get out of these games. They'll call some
chaos defensively with the old school superstars, Cam Hayward Watt
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and the boys, and they'll continue to be a really
good ball club and have a winning season. So I
don't know what will happen throughout the season, but I
know that Tomlin doesn't lose have losing seasons, and I'm
not gonna bank on him doing it now.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
I don't see it either.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I mean, Richard, he took this team to the playoffs
with I'm going to rattle off these quarterbacks here and
probably create a state of shock for you. But can
he Pickett and my namesake Mitchell Trubisky took this guys,
these guys to the playoffs last year. I mean, you
look at the Steelers schedule opening up with Russell starting,
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they play at the Falcons, look like a tough team.
The Broncos will see the Chargers, the Colts. I mean,
those four games are all winnable. I mean, what is
it going to take in your eyes for this team
to move over to Justin Fields because I would think
they want to at least take a look at him
as their starter, seeing that, you know, hey, they might
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be able to get somebody at a discount that they
can keep long term. Unlike Russell Richard. When does when
does this change? When do you see them giving him
that shot?
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Well?
Speaker 3 (24:09):
I only see it if they lose, you know, two
three games in a row early on, and I don't
I don't know if I see that just because of
Tomlin's history more than I think it's something to do
with Russell Wilson, and those games are are winnable. Atlanta
looks really good. Obviously they just signed Justin Simmons. Uh,
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they made a trade. They they Kirk Cousins is gonna
make Drake London and Kyle Pitch look better than they
ever have. I think that's gonna be really cool. But
John Robinson looked really good in his first year. He'll
continue that growth, I believe, as a playmaker. And so
that'll be tough. You know, Denver, you know Sean Payton
will be on his prove it tour, and I'm sure
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Russell will be on his proven tour like who was right?
Who was wrong in this situation? And I think that's
gonna be these games. I wouldn't put anything past the
Coats because they always seem to be a hard out
for people and they'll do things the right way. So
but I don't I don't think. I don't think Justin
Field showed enough in the preseason for them to go
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out and say, all right, man, we're gonna start him
over Russell. Obviously it was clear and obvious what we're doing,
what he was able to do. He's clear and obviously
the better quarterback. He's a great athlete, and I'm sure
they'll put packages in for him to get him out
on the field, put the ball in his hands, let
him make some plays. But I can't see them pulling
Russell unless the Wills just absolutely fall off and Talman's
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not gonna let that happen.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Yeah, well, we shall see another quarterback. I want to
talk a little bit about Josh Allen with the Bills.
He was just named the most overrated QB by the
NFL players. I personally find that hard to believe. I mean,
he won me my fantasy league last year. Rich, What
what do you think of Josh Allen? Would you term
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him over rated?
Speaker 3 (26:01):
No? No, I wouldn't turn him overrated. He hasn't won
in the playoffs a time. He has the same stigma
everybody else does, but I don't think it's any fault
of his own. I think he's averaging seventy percent completion
percentage three hundred yards and not a great number of
turnovers in the playoffs, So I wouldn't say I would
call him overrated by any stretch. I think he's one
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of the best quarterbacks in the National Football League and
he's played that way, so to call him overrated just
seems uneducated, uninformed, or haterish. Because he led the league
in touchdowns total touchdowns last year with I think forty
one or forty two and he's just really played at
a high level. Even in the playoffs. He's just running
to people that are better. He's running into better teams,
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better quarterbacks. Joe Burrows got him a couple of times.
My Homes gets him just about every time, and you thought,
maybe it'll be this different this year. It's January, they're
in Buffalo, but he's just you know, I just can't
get past him.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
All right, let's talk about your niners. Rich We we
kind of touched down it a little bit, but I
want to take a deeper dive here, Like what level
of worry do you have right now over this Brandon
Ayuk situation? Because as an outsider's perspective, it seems like
it's a tremendously huge deal. The fact that this could
linger into Week one. You gotta worry about paying him
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big bucks, and then the back end of that, you
gotta worry about Trent Williams and Brock Purdy. Where does
this dust all settle in San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
My worry level was at the beginning of training campus
is probably at like a four. Just trust John Lynch,
I trust Kyle. I trust they've had a great organization.
But it goes back to your point, the front office
gambled in a gamble, and this is the gamble that
front offices take sometimes that sometimes it pays off, sometimes
it doesn't. And you don't ever, ever ever want to
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wish injury or think injury on the player. But these
front offices, they got to let it play out just
in case, you know that, just in case, hey, something happens,
you get a you get a knee injury, you get
an ankle injury. Then that price goes down substantially, and then
we're negotiating from a whole different space. But that's the
risk you take when you wait. You could go earlier
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and maybe you get him for twenty five and everybody's happy,
Hey we got him in the year three for twenty five.
You're not thinking, hey, he's gonna cost thirty three in
year five, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Right?
Speaker 3 (28:21):
But I think they should have went early on him.
I think they should have went early on on Bosa.
I think they should have went early on a number
of guys and got those prices down. But I mean,
we are here now, so I'm concerned more about Trent
Williams than I am Brandon Hyuk because I think at
least they're having conversations, you know, just a human nature
element of it. I think they'll be able to come
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to some sort of deal. But Trent Williams is much
more important to this offense. Not that BA isn't a
tremendous asset and tremendously important in a foundational piece, but
that left tackle. You could see it in the preseason.
I mean, you don't want your starting quarterback getting hit.
I think I saw a drive. I mean I saw
one game where Brock dropped back fourteen times and he
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got hit nine of them. This is the preseason. Guys
aren't running anything exotic. They're not running any crazy pressures,
nothing that should confuse the offensive line. But when you're
missing such a huge, the best left tackle in football,
it's gonna show. And their old line is designed to
slide away from him. Let him take the hard job,
and everybody else, Hey, we're blocking him by committee. Cool,
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got that. When you can't do that, it exposes Colton
mckivitz a little bit. It exposed you know, it exposed
a lot of things if it exposed some deficiencies within
their offensive line. And I think again it helps Trent's
case because He's like, look, I'll see what it could
be without me. Do you really want to sign up
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for that? Because I'm not showing up until you give
me what I'm asking for. And I have no idea.
I have no idea what he's asking for. I would
guess it's thirty plus million, and I would guess they
find a way to get that done because if they
start the season without him, and even then once he comes,
Mitchell he's a vet vet. So I'm not worried about Trent,
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if I'm being honest, I'm not worried about him coming
in out of shape or having to adjust or anything
like that. But there's that aspect.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Well, if memory serves me right, wasn't Trent Williams out
for that three game losing streak last year that the
Niners went on. I mean, Richard, this guy's value to
this team. I mean, he might be the most valuable
player for the San Francisco forty nine ers. And to
say that about a left tackle that might shock some people,
but he is that good and when he's not on
the field, it's noticeable. So the Niners, I think John
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Lynch has made one mistake over the last couple of years,
maybe a couple, maybe not paying these guys early. But
the biggest mistake I think he made was a contract
for Javon Hargrave, because that contract right there caused them
to lose to Forrest Buckner, you know, and now they
got this Brandon Ayuk situation going on. If you don't
pay that guy and roll with who you got, things
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might be a little bit different in San Francisco. But
hindsight is always twenty twenty rich and we'll see what
happens from here. But let's go a little bit further north, Richard,
to your homeland, Seattle. I know you stopped by training
camp for a little bit. The Seahawks was pretty darn
good in that last game. They let they let the
big dogs eat a little bit. You saw DK getting
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the end zone, you saw JSN do his thing. Like Richard,
what are your thoughts about Seattle because they've kind of
been a dark horse, you know, I don't know what
teams expect out of them this year. Is Seattle legitimate
contender in the NFC West.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
No question, no question about it. They're legitimate, and I
think it's they're poised to have a really great season.
And obviously I think they make the playoffs because they
were built well to begin with. You know, they have
the receiving cores that's explosive. They have the explosive back
in K nine. They got us really solid offensive line
that was really beat up last year. Both tackles are injured.
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I think Lucas is still on the shelf for a
couple weeks, but they bought in George Fant to help
with that transition. Charles Cross is healthy again, and he
looks really good, big monster of a man. I think
that's gonna be good. Gino looks as good as he's
ever been. If you keep him up upright and protected,
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he's as good as anybody right now. You can talk
about his history and whatever. I don't really care about that.
Since he's been in Seattle and he's been the starter,
he's been really good most of the time. Now, he's
had moments where he struggled because they can't keep him
up right. Nobody does well. You're getting hit in the
face every day. You lose both tackles. That's gonna be
tough on anybody on the other side of the ball.
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I think it's where they're gonna take their greatest leap
is because they built this defensive line and it had
me scratching my head for a while, Mitchell, because I
was sitting there like, Okay, y'all are stockpiling a lot
of defensive line men right now. Now you got Jaren Reid,
you got Leonard Williams, you got Byron Murphy, who you
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just took in the first round, and you're like, all right,
that's a lot you still got. You still got Boye
Mafe on the edge. You just traded for a linebacker
to play edge for you. Who am I missing? I'm
miss who was out. Unfortunately nuosus out for the first
four games, but he was probably their best pass rusher
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and was probably gonna benefit the most. I think Jaron
Reid is probably gonna benefit the most, but he's up there.
And I think Byron Murphy is perfect for this system.
And if you just talk about Justin Matabu Metabek from
last year in Baltimore had a career year. I don't
think he had more than three sacks before Mike McDonald
came in and changed that system. And then he comes
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in and has I think twelve or thirteen career year,
and that's crazy. That's Aaron donald numbers for defensive tackle
and so that was really impressive. But that that just
goes to show what Mike McDonald lights and a D
lineman in his D linemen and they have such tremendous depth.
That's what's gonna help them.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
You got a lot more than the D line, too,
rich You've got a Witherspoon. The kid was a stud
last year. I mean, he's got that aggression. I know
you can speak a heck of a lot better than
I can towards cornerback play, but goodness, he's aggressive. And
then you got Tyreek Wooling fast as can be. I mean, Richard,
to me, the Seahawks are a dark horse contender. There's
always that team that rises out of nowhere, and I
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think the Seahawks could be that this year.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
No question. I think the secondary is as good as anybody.
I think Tarik Wooling is set for a career year
at the corner. I think Devin Witherspoon has been everything
they could have imagined and more. You just listen to
Mike McDonald, he closed when talking about him. They're really dynamic,
they're playing fast, they're playing confident. My concern is at
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the linebacker not the down linebackers that they have, but
the guys, the stand up linebackers. It's just lot of
unknowns there. But in terms of the secondary and the
corner play, it's been as good as ever. Feel terrible
for Ardie Burns had an a cl injury and a
preseason non contact. You know, it just didn't look like
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anything really happened on the play, and you know, he
was having a really good training camp, really really poised
to make a big difference for this team. And so
he's out and that's a huge blow to that defense.
And I don't think enough people are talking about that.
And then you got Jordan Love out there. He's gonna
make a he's gonna be really great. Kobe Bryant moved
to safety. That transition is going really well, and so
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it's gonna be fun to watch. It's gonna be fun
and you just can see them amount of pride when
I spoke to the team, That's what I impressed upon them.
That that that I really liked when watching them. It's
just the amount of pride every level. You know, even
when the twos and threes come in, they take pride
and getting stops, getting the ball, getting off the field,
getting three and outs, making a difference, making tackles, and
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I just I just think that had slowly been sliding
away over the last couple of years, but Mike's brought
it back and and I'm excited. And that was them
running all vanilla stuff. They weren't running anything crazy, nothing exotic.
So when they really they got your boy bon Nicks
and Denver coming into town first week, I think it's
gonna be a lot for a rookie quarterback to deal
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with the noise in Seattle. The fans are passionate, They're
excited about a new change and a new team and
the energy. It's gonna be tough for rookie to come
in here and get a win.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
I want to discuss one last topic before we wrap here,
Rich the New York Jets. Right this is Aaron Rodgers
finally gets his moment after whatever it was five plays
last year going down with the achilles injury. There's so
much hype around this team. I mean, you see in
so many reports coming out that you know they're one
of the top five rosters in football. A lot of
people are picking them to go to the NFC, their
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AFC Championship game, like, what are your true expectations of
Aaron Rodgers and.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
The Jets is it? Is it just hype or is
this more realistic.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
It's definitely realistic. I mean, if you just look at
the defense last year, in the last couple of years,
they've been really good. That's what you hate that they're
getting wasted. You know, I hate when great defense just
gets wasted because of bad quarterback play or bad offensive
play or injuries on the offensive side, because they deserve
to go into playoffs with how hard and how well
they were playing against them of the top offenses, because
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they got to deal with Miami and all their speed
and Mike McDaniel's dynamic play calling and Buffalo with Josh
Allen and everything Stefan Diggs was bringing before they got
rid of him. And so I I'm really excited for him.
I hope it pans out exactly like they just because
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Saalah is a great dude, a great coach. They deserve it,
their fans deserve it. They've been in a drought for
a long time. And I hope he goes out there
and you know, for everything Aaron Rodgers is off the
field and all the controversy and you know, all the
on that field, he's still a savant, and he's still
a problem, and he's still an issue, and he's still
one of the greatest players to ever strap up cleats
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in the National Football League or any other football league. Uh.
And so you give him all the respect in the
world as teammates love him, and I'm excited for Garrett
Wilson to have his breakout year after what he's had
to deal with. Even Lazarre, I'm sure he's excited. They're
gonna have a tough, tough first game going to San
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Francisco to Santa Clara. Aaron has just not historically played
well against the San Francis but maybe that changes.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
But I think you've got an interception ball in your
house that that speaks to that a little bit that.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Speaks to that. Yeah, it's a couple couple games where
the score was double digits. Uh, but yeah, it's it's
it's really a great roster. But they just got to
put it all together on this season. You know, if
this is this is the all end season. They've had
good season. They've been a feel good story. Everybody's felt
bad for the tackle situation. I think they lost four
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or five tackles last year, both on the right end,
left side. So I hope everything comes together and they
can just get in the playoffs and make noise and
just play to the to the standard and and and
play to their potential. You know that'd be fun to see.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
No question. Well, Richard, next week, I could not be
more pumped up. Man.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
This is gonna be the return of the NFL season,
but more importantly, it's the.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Return of the Richard Truman power ranks. Man.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
I mean, that's that is what I'm personally most excited for.
Next week, we will have our season preview. We'll do
all your picks for MVP, Defensive Player of the year,
who you see winning it. I can't wait, Richard. I
will let you wrap this thing up.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Mitchell. I will have a hard time not putting. There's
not gonna your Detroit Lions may make an appearance, Mitchell. There.
They've earned a lot of respect, they built a team culture.
It's hard to bet against them right now, Mitchell.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Sorry, Richard, they're gonna be in your top five, but
I don't think they're gonna be two, three, four or five,
my friend.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Right right, right right, I don't know, Mitchell, I'm not
still you know, still got calculations, my algorithm still putting information.
But what we appreciate you guys joining us as always.
Thanks for listening. Wherever you are in the world. You
could be listening to anything and you're listening to us.
Hit that's up button if you knew to get a clue,
(40:28):
who's who and all that nonsense. Appreciate you, See you soon.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
The volume
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