May 11, 2025 • 14 mins
Wade dives into the latest with Tommy Fury and why he didn't REMATCH Jake Paul Or fight Darren Till. #Volume #Herd
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Folks, welcome back to the way concept presented by the
ring magazine Chloe Concept.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
In the back.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
We are finally done with my obligated duties as commentator
here in Orlando, Florida this week. But on the same
night that I'm calling fights here in the States, there
was a fight.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
In Budapest, Is It Hungry?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
That featured one of the most sad and yet frustrating
bouts that we potentially could have in the influencer boxing scene. Yes,
I'm talking influencer boxing. Today Tommy Fury made his return
in front of tens of people in what looked like
a part time boxing event, part time rave lsd trip.
I don't really know how to describe it, but we
(00:40):
have to talk about it because it's so frustrating to
see what could have been and what is based on
the choices made and the losses slash wins in the
influencer boxing scene. Tommy Fury gets a win in his return.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
But what does it mean to me?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
It means Tommy is worse off than he would have
been had he done other things.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
What do I mean the breakdown?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Let's go so, like I said, Tommy Fury, after I
think almost two years off, his last fight being the
KSI fight on the Prime card. I think that was
October November of twenty twenty three. He finally makes his
return to the ring in a self promoted bout over
in Budapest.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I didn't even know that this was on today.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I remember something about it, and then someone let me know,
like a couple of hours before Cannon, Kannon Andjulik. It's
definitely a butchering of his opponent's name, but the guy
was five and one. Apparently, it had over one hundred
amateur fights. And for me to believe that, you'd have
to think that I am fluent in Mandarin, because bullshit,
the guy looked like a novice that Tommy was fighting.
(01:45):
And when this thing was announced, I and most of
the Internet rightfully shat all over it. I'm talking, open
the cheeks up and let it fall out on this event.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
You're just gonna have to listen to some of the
analogies I.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Make in this video on this event, and just the
idea of Tommy returning to such a wet fart of
a boxing match when we could have had Tommy Fury,
Darren till On listen. I'm gonna say it my fight
car in Manchester. The fight built around Tommy Fury that
he said he couldn't do now because Darren Hill was unprofessional.
(02:17):
I don't know if you guys have seen this, but
Tommy Fury is still to this day saying that he
will not fight Darren Till because Darren Hill didn't act right.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I'm just gonna play the clip.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Another name that was linked with yourself. The fight didn't materialize,
that you and Darren Till down the line, do you
think you two will meet again?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Of course said.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Darren and John had a bit of back and forth
as well too, But do you think you and him
will meet in the ring at some point?
Speaker 4 (02:38):
I don't care about it, dar Until, and then they
just beat him Ony I beat five years ago. You
know he was in the UFC. You can't get bucking that. Boys.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Before we even go any further, Darren Hill demolished a
better version of Anthony Taylor than the guy that Tommy
Fury struggled with in four rounds, by the way, a
fight that was supposed to be I think six or
eight rounds. Somehow, mysteriously, you guys remember back to the
Jake Paul TYM Woodley one car. That fight was made
into a four round fight again mysteriously on fight week.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Maybe even fight day.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
But he had trouble and couldn't get Anthony Taylor out
of there. He beat him fair play, but he couldn't
get him out of there, and he struggled to really
land anything clean.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Darren Until mopped the floor.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
No disrespect to at, but mopped the floor with him
and then took him out. So Tommy flexing a win
from five years ago. It's not even he didn't even
look as good in the win. And this is a
better version of eighteen now in the boxing ring. Soe,
the excuses are starting to already hit.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
In other words, I was tooking him a bone. Obviously,
didn't know how to be a didn't how to conduct himself,
started throwing out stupid things, and that was his chance gone.
I was his only shot at making some real money.
Obviously didn't know how to play ball, and that's what
you get.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Didn't know how to play ball, Okay, Tommy Fury is
referring to the fact that Darren Until rocked up to
that press conference, that first presser with him and John
Fury there showed no fear of either of them said
if Tommy got out of line, he'd head kick him.
By the way, Tommy said he would ELBOWKSI in the
boxing ring. So again massive hypocrite talking about keeping himself
in line and all this. And the thing that I
(04:12):
think is hilarious about it is that Tommy Fury acts
like he's not being sued, that there's not some kind
of negotiation for his fights going further on the platform.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
That he screwed over. Not talking about misfits, I'm.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Talking about another four letter platform that he screwed over
and just pulled out of their event, leaving them without
a main event after signing about agreement to be on
their event. Some legal things that I don't know how
they're going to sort them out. I assume it's going
to be with Tommy Fury being back on that platform
at some point. But he doesn't just call the shots.
He's not a big draw in this scene, evidence by
(04:43):
the fight we just again, you guys didn't watch. I
watched because I'm cursed with a job in Buddapest. He
shared his main event with a bunch of rave musicians
fanatics and a twin duo hosting gig between two ladies.
I don't even know if they knew where they were.
It was an absolute shit show. And Tommy's talking like
a boss man, and he lost his chance because he
(05:04):
didn't know how to conduct himself. Even while John Fury
flips every table in front of him, grabs his nuts
sack every five seconds in a press conference, Tommy's getting
in fights back in twenty twenty three in arena, John
Fury's taking his shirt off, flopping his man tits all
over everybody.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
But but Darren Hill didn't know how to conduct himself
all right.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
In other words, Tommy Fury wants absolutely no part of
Darren Hill. That's point blank, period, and not for the
reasons he's saying. He knows that that's a tough fucking
fight for him, and he also probably knows at this
point his level is not rising, even with his undefeated
record at eleven and zero, which is why he's not
willing to put it up against a tough fight like
(05:41):
Darren Hill. Quite frankly, you know, you guys say I'm
glazing when I say this. And an opportunity to fight
Jake after that layoff as well, and he didn't take it.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
We're gonna find out why in just a second.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Part of it, the way that he interacted with the
dad that meant that the fight wouldn't go ahead.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
No, he's everything, He's just unprofessional professional at the end
of the day.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Unprofessional.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Meanwhile, once again, I was in Dubai when Tommy didn't
make waight for rest in Peace by the way, to
Paul Bamba, he didn't make weight in that fight, and
they just moved the fight to whatever waight Tommy was
at and just said fuck you to Paul Baba.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Really screwed him over at that moment.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
And then Tommy pulls out of a fight, speaking again
about unprofessional, pulls out of the fight with.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Darren Till over some mean words.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah, Darren till is the unprofessional one, the guy that
stayed on the card, saved the event and then knocked
out Anthony Taylor. Sure, anyway, that's what Tommy had to
say in the build up, and here is the manly
man face off that Tommy and again don't remember his name, opponent,
No disrespect to him because he actually came to fight
Tommy a little bit. I mean, just kiss already, right,
if that's what we're doing, just actually make out.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Sure John's loving it. That's my boy right there, Tommy
Furrey a face to.
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Speaker 1 (07:06):
That was the face off, and you know the fight,
it was what it was. You know, Tommy did what
Tommy does. He crowded his work. He just threw a
ton of jabs. His right hands were kind of chopping
right hands to the body or flying over the head
of his opponent.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
His opponent was there in the fight.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Tommy won by again jab a clinch, jab clinch, jab
clinch to the Tommy Fury Special.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And it was just a nothing burger of a fight.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
We didn't learn anything. They only went six rounds. And again,
it just looked like Tommy from two years ago, Tommy
from five years ago, Tommy from every fight that you've
seen him in since he turned pro and he's been televised,
just looked the same.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
He didn't look any different.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
And yes, you could say, okay, it was because of
a layoff, or it was because of this or because
of that, and maybe parts of that are true. Two
year layoff, things are gonna happen, hand surgery, we get
all that. But he didn't look any different. And I'm
not even saying he looked worse. He just didn't look
any different. There's no growth. He has hit his ceiling,
point blank period. I don't even know if he's a
regional fighter in the pro boxing right, let alone an
English title level fighter. Or again he keeps talking about
(08:07):
world champion. Listen, say what you want about Jake saying
he wants to be a world champion. At least he's fighting.
And yes, Juliosser job as junior, he's not.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
What he once was.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I understand that, but at one point he was horror jamming.
Is he shot from that point? Maybe, matter of fact,
that could be the case. But Jake's fighting Juliosser job
as junior, Tommy Fury is fighting Budapest's finest. I don't
even know if that guy is from Hungary. I have
no idea, But who who is that?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Even off the layoff, who is that they want to
talk about?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Oh well, this guy had one hundred amateur fights. He's
got more experience than Tommy. I didn't hear that same
shit when Jake Paul went and fought Ryan Borland or
Andre Augus.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I want to I want everybody.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Better be keeping the same energy for Tommy Fury. But anyway,
the fight was what it was. Tommy wins a unanimous decision.
Roman Fury was also on this card. He looked kind
of the same. Honestly, they all look the same. They
all want to fight like Tyson Fury, but they're not
six nine. Their hands drop, and there's a lot of
feints and a lot of twitchiness, and then you know
double and triple jab and then eventually they get caught
(09:06):
with an overhand rider or left hook because their hands
are low because they're not six' nine and they can't
frame everybody because they're normal.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Builds so, anyway that.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Happened and this is the frustrating part of this right
Because Tommy fury is now a part of influencer, boxing
whether you like it or, not for the rest of
however long this thing goes, on or crossover, boxing Because
i'm gonna Mention jake AND i MENTIONED ksi them losing
To Tommy fury challenging. THEMSELVES i get. It fair play decision.
Made was it the right one in? Retrospect probably, not
because they could have just fought each other and that
(09:34):
would have been the challenge and we could have moved.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
On but it.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Happened jake wanted to challenge himself Against. Tommy he, lost
AS i wanted to do the.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Same he.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Lost that alone Gave tommy a. NAME i don't care
about The fury. NAME i don't care About Love island
when he's on his. Own look at that crowd today In,
budapest there was probably four hundred.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
People.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Maybe and, now because he has wins over the biggest
names in influencer, boxing he still has a claim to
in those. Fights he has a claim to the, rematches
and all he did today was devalue himself more for those.
Rematches Because kasi And jake don't need. Him they probably
will rematch him because they're both stubborn and want to
(10:14):
get their losses, back but they don't need, him and
today made them need him even less because it proved
nothing except That tommy.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Fear he's not a draw and he's not getting. Better
maybe you could say, okay because The.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Tommy's performance it it's more, competitive and Maybe jake your.
GAS i can beat, him but what did this do for?
Him sure maybe there were some ring russ but it
wasn't LIKE i just didn't see anything. Different, AGAIN i
don't even think he was much worse than he normally.
Is he just looked the, same which is WHY i
think we've hit our ceiling With Tommy fear been boxing
since what he was? Thirteen, right that's the whole. Story
tommy's been boxing since he's. Thirteen he's looked like this ever.
(10:47):
Since he's not changing.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Things it's not.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Happening the only thing potentially good that came out of
this AND i don't even know if it is good
because who even? Cares that's kind of my whole point
in this thing is who even cares What Tommy fury
had to say after his win and who he was
gonna call. Out but we'll listen to it, Anyway and
you guys tell me if this gets you fired up
for a, Fight i'm really. Curious so the whole world
is waiting for you to rematch With Jake.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Paul what do you think about?
Speaker 4 (11:13):
It Jake paul's a bitch and he's running.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Scared, Hey Jake han's six, now baby hands.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
SIX i thought a guy in here tonight is that
over one hundred how much of fights experience has and
he's as tough as. Tea Jake paul wants to step.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Inside THIS RINGU i guarantee you next Time i'm look
you spark.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Out i've got two years out there ring this is
after two.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Years i'll knock that bum out whenever he wants.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
It so, Yeah tommy again goes to the well with
the two years off in the hand. SURGERY i don't
Remember tommy's hand being an issue in The jake. Fis
matter of, FACT i remember it being an issue with
THE ksi. Fight but now we're flexing the hey hands
fixed hands. Fixed the Way tommy, punches he's gonna injure
his hand. Again the guy when he throws a right,
hand it's it's like a meat shovel right over someone's.
Head he's probably gonna hit the fucking ring post with
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it and break the shit. Again you can TELL i
don't really. Care and that's the saddest part of. This
tommy had an opportunity to Fight jake already On. Netflix
he had the opportunity for millions of dollars and turned
the offer apparently there were rumors for another potential offer
to come his way publican. NEGOTIATION i get.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
It no one wants to do that stuff for the.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Public so if he was gonna Fight, jake he should
have done, it BECAUSE i don't know what the demand is. Now,
Right like, Again jake's about to Fight. Chavez well see
What ksi. Does he's, now you, know talking with the
ring And big he his excellency on something they're gonna do,
Next i'm. Sure and rumor was that Kas i And
connor McGregor were gonna Lock horns And, alcatraz But connor
turned it. Down so when you're talking about names Like, Chavez,
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Junior Mike, Tyson connor McGregor outside of just pure pride
and want For jake And kosi to get their loss,
back AND i do think they need to revisit, that Especially.
JAKE i do think he needs to Revisit Tommy fury.
Fight but if he, doesn't it'll be because of shit like.
This and that's what's so frustrated as a, fan not
even as someone that wants to watch A Tommy fury,
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fight BECAUSE i really.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
DON'T i, DON'T i don't.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Care this made me care even, less but as a
fan of this entire story arc of influencer crossover, boxing
to watch him go out and have a stinker like,
that then get on one of the two microphones from
the twin hosting ladies that were there and cut a
promo like, That jake's running. Scared i'm on a knocking spark.
(13:17):
Out tommy hasn't knocked anybody out and god knows how
long It's it's pure poppy. Cock as someone that's seventy
year olds old would, Say Tommy fury once again disappoints
in my, opinion AND i think that the big takeaway
from that fight, is, yeah he was off for two,
years their, play came out and. Fought but what Four
(13:38):
what did we?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Learn what did he? Get why did he do?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
It because in my, book in maybe comment, section you
let me, KNOW i think every single metric of his
stock as a boxer went down with this. Fight his
pay per view, drawability his, namesake his skill, level his,
talent and his ceiling all looked like they were worse
than we thought they were going into this. Fight at
least that's. Me you, guys let me. Know but, listen
(14:02):
we got a ton of stuff coming out this. Week
next video will probably be me talking Many pacquiao's, return
Which i've got some very pointed opinions.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
About we'll see what.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Happens but in this wild world of combat, sports you
can check in here at the way concept presented it
by The, ring where we don't always have the, answers
but for all the questions we do.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Have life continues to move, forward as.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Far As Timy fury and his life and whereabouts and
what happens next for him in combat Sports influencer, Boxing
will it Be, jake will be KASE? I i don't,
know and quite, frankly at this, POINT i don't know
THAT i actually even, care but don't have those, answers
SO i guess we'll find, out
Folks, welcome back to the way concept presented by the
ring magazine Chloe Concept.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
In the back.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
We are finally done with my obligated duties as commentator
here in Orlando, Florida this week. But on the same
night that I'm calling fights here in the States, there
was a fight.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
In Budapest, Is It Hungry?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
That featured one of the most sad and yet frustrating
bouts that we potentially could have in the influencer boxing scene. Yes,
I'm talking influencer boxing. Today Tommy Fury made his return
in front of tens of people in what looked like
a part time boxing event, part time rave lsd trip.
I don't really know how to describe it, but we
(00:40):
have to talk about it because it's so frustrating to
see what could have been and what is based on
the choices made and the losses slash wins in the
influencer boxing scene. Tommy Fury gets a win in his return.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
But what does it mean to me?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
It means Tommy is worse off than he would have
been had he done other things.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
What do I mean the breakdown?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Let's go so, like I said, Tommy Fury, after I
think almost two years off, his last fight being the
KSI fight on the Prime card. I think that was
October November of twenty twenty three. He finally makes his
return to the ring in a self promoted bout over
in Budapest.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I didn't even know that this was on today.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I remember something about it, and then someone let me know,
like a couple of hours before Cannon, Kannon Andjulik. It's
definitely a butchering of his opponent's name, but the guy
was five and one. Apparently, it had over one hundred
amateur fights. And for me to believe that, you'd have
to think that I am fluent in Mandarin, because bullshit,
the guy looked like a novice that Tommy was fighting.
(01:45):
And when this thing was announced, I and most of
the Internet rightfully shat all over it. I'm talking, open
the cheeks up and let it fall out on this event.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
You're just gonna have to listen to some of the
analogies I.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Make in this video on this event, and just the
idea of Tommy returning to such a wet fart of
a boxing match when we could have had Tommy Fury,
Darren till On listen. I'm gonna say it my fight
car in Manchester. The fight built around Tommy Fury that
he said he couldn't do now because Darren Hill was unprofessional.
(02:17):
I don't know if you guys have seen this, but
Tommy Fury is still to this day saying that he
will not fight Darren Till because Darren Hill didn't act right.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I'm just gonna play the clip.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Another name that was linked with yourself. The fight didn't materialize,
that you and Darren Till down the line, do you
think you two will meet again?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Of course said.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Darren and John had a bit of back and forth
as well too, But do you think you and him
will meet in the ring at some point?
Speaker 4 (02:38):
I don't care about it, dar Until, and then they
just beat him Ony I beat five years ago. You
know he was in the UFC. You can't get bucking that. Boys.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Before we even go any further, Darren Hill demolished a
better version of Anthony Taylor than the guy that Tommy
Fury struggled with in four rounds, by the way, a
fight that was supposed to be I think six or
eight rounds. Somehow, mysteriously, you guys remember back to the
Jake Paul TYM Woodley one car. That fight was made
into a four round fight again mysteriously on fight week.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Maybe even fight day.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
But he had trouble and couldn't get Anthony Taylor out
of there. He beat him fair play, but he couldn't
get him out of there, and he struggled to really
land anything clean.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Darren Until mopped the floor.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
No disrespect to at, but mopped the floor with him
and then took him out. So Tommy flexing a win
from five years ago. It's not even he didn't even
look as good in the win. And this is a
better version of eighteen now in the boxing ring. Soe,
the excuses are starting to already hit.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
In other words, I was tooking him a bone. Obviously,
didn't know how to be a didn't how to conduct himself,
started throwing out stupid things, and that was his chance gone.
I was his only shot at making some real money.
Obviously didn't know how to play ball, and that's what
you get.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Didn't know how to play ball, Okay, Tommy Fury is
referring to the fact that Darren Until rocked up to
that press conference, that first presser with him and John
Fury there showed no fear of either of them said
if Tommy got out of line, he'd head kick him.
By the way, Tommy said he would ELBOWKSI in the
boxing ring. So again massive hypocrite talking about keeping himself
in line and all this. And the thing that I
(04:12):
think is hilarious about it is that Tommy Fury acts
like he's not being sued, that there's not some kind
of negotiation for his fights going further on the platform.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
That he screwed over. Not talking about misfits, I'm.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Talking about another four letter platform that he screwed over
and just pulled out of their event, leaving them without
a main event after signing about agreement to be on
their event. Some legal things that I don't know how
they're going to sort them out. I assume it's going
to be with Tommy Fury being back on that platform
at some point. But he doesn't just call the shots.
He's not a big draw in this scene, evidence by
(04:43):
the fight we just again, you guys didn't watch. I
watched because I'm cursed with a job in Buddapest. He
shared his main event with a bunch of rave musicians
fanatics and a twin duo hosting gig between two ladies.
I don't even know if they knew where they were.
It was an absolute shit show. And Tommy's talking like
a boss man, and he lost his chance because he
(05:04):
didn't know how to conduct himself. Even while John Fury
flips every table in front of him, grabs his nuts
sack every five seconds in a press conference, Tommy's getting
in fights back in twenty twenty three in arena, John
Fury's taking his shirt off, flopping his man tits all
over everybody.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
But but Darren Hill didn't know how to conduct himself
all right.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
In other words, Tommy Fury wants absolutely no part of
Darren Hill. That's point blank, period, and not for the
reasons he's saying. He knows that that's a tough fucking
fight for him, and he also probably knows at this
point his level is not rising, even with his undefeated
record at eleven and zero, which is why he's not
willing to put it up against a tough fight like
(05:41):
Darren Hill. Quite frankly, you know, you guys say I'm
glazing when I say this. And an opportunity to fight
Jake after that layoff as well, and he didn't take it.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
We're gonna find out why in just a second.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Part of it, the way that he interacted with the
dad that meant that the fight wouldn't go ahead.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
No, he's everything, He's just unprofessional professional at the end
of the day.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Unprofessional.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Meanwhile, once again, I was in Dubai when Tommy didn't
make waight for rest in Peace by the way, to
Paul Bamba, he didn't make weight in that fight, and
they just moved the fight to whatever waight Tommy was
at and just said fuck you to Paul Baba.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Really screwed him over at that moment.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
And then Tommy pulls out of a fight, speaking again
about unprofessional, pulls out of the fight with.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Darren Till over some mean words.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah, Darren till is the unprofessional one, the guy that
stayed on the card, saved the event and then knocked
out Anthony Taylor. Sure, anyway, that's what Tommy had to
say in the build up, and here is the manly
man face off that Tommy and again don't remember his name, opponent,
No disrespect to him because he actually came to fight
Tommy a little bit. I mean, just kiss already, right,
if that's what we're doing, just actually make out.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Sure John's loving it. That's my boy right there, Tommy
Furrey a face to.
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Speaker 1 (07:06):
That was the face off, and you know the fight,
it was what it was. You know, Tommy did what
Tommy does. He crowded his work. He just threw a
ton of jabs. His right hands were kind of chopping
right hands to the body or flying over the head
of his opponent.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
His opponent was there in the fight.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Tommy won by again jab a clinch, jab clinch, jab
clinch to the Tommy Fury Special.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And it was just a nothing burger of a fight.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
We didn't learn anything. They only went six rounds. And again,
it just looked like Tommy from two years ago, Tommy
from five years ago, Tommy from every fight that you've
seen him in since he turned pro and he's been televised,
just looked the same.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
He didn't look any different.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
And yes, you could say, okay, it was because of
a layoff, or it was because of this or because
of that, and maybe parts of that are true. Two
year layoff, things are gonna happen, hand surgery, we get
all that. But he didn't look any different. And I'm
not even saying he looked worse. He just didn't look
any different. There's no growth. He has hit his ceiling,
point blank period. I don't even know if he's a
regional fighter in the pro boxing right, let alone an
English title level fighter. Or again he keeps talking about
(08:07):
world champion. Listen, say what you want about Jake saying
he wants to be a world champion. At least he's fighting.
And yes, Juliosser job as junior, he's not.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
What he once was.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I understand that, but at one point he was horror jamming.
Is he shot from that point? Maybe, matter of fact,
that could be the case. But Jake's fighting Juliosser job
as junior, Tommy Fury is fighting Budapest's finest. I don't
even know if that guy is from Hungary. I have
no idea, But who who is that?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Even off the layoff, who is that they want to
talk about?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Oh well, this guy had one hundred amateur fights. He's
got more experience than Tommy. I didn't hear that same
shit when Jake Paul went and fought Ryan Borland or
Andre Augus.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I want to I want everybody.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Better be keeping the same energy for Tommy Fury. But anyway,
the fight was what it was. Tommy wins a unanimous decision.
Roman Fury was also on this card. He looked kind
of the same. Honestly, they all look the same. They
all want to fight like Tyson Fury, but they're not
six nine. Their hands drop, and there's a lot of
feints and a lot of twitchiness, and then you know
double and triple jab and then eventually they get caught
(09:06):
with an overhand rider or left hook because their hands
are low because they're not six' nine and they can't
frame everybody because they're normal.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Builds so, anyway that.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Happened and this is the frustrating part of this right
Because Tommy fury is now a part of influencer, boxing
whether you like it or, not for the rest of
however long this thing goes, on or crossover, boxing Because
i'm gonna Mention jake AND i MENTIONED ksi them losing
To Tommy fury challenging. THEMSELVES i get. It fair play decision.
Made was it the right one in? Retrospect probably, not
because they could have just fought each other and that
(09:34):
would have been the challenge and we could have moved.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
On but it.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Happened jake wanted to challenge himself Against. Tommy he, lost
AS i wanted to do the.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Same he.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Lost that alone Gave tommy a. NAME i don't care
about The fury. NAME i don't care About Love island
when he's on his. Own look at that crowd today In,
budapest there was probably four hundred.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
People.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Maybe and, now because he has wins over the biggest
names in influencer, boxing he still has a claim to
in those. Fights he has a claim to the, rematches
and all he did today was devalue himself more for those.
Rematches Because kasi And jake don't need. Him they probably
will rematch him because they're both stubborn and want to
(10:14):
get their losses, back but they don't need, him and
today made them need him even less because it proved
nothing except That tommy.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Fear he's not a draw and he's not getting. Better
maybe you could say, okay because The.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Tommy's performance it it's more, competitive and Maybe jake your.
GAS i can beat, him but what did this do for?
Him sure maybe there were some ring russ but it
wasn't LIKE i just didn't see anything. Different, AGAIN i
don't even think he was much worse than he normally.
Is he just looked the, same which is WHY i
think we've hit our ceiling With Tommy fear been boxing
since what he was? Thirteen, right that's the whole. Story
tommy's been boxing since he's. Thirteen he's looked like this ever.
(10:47):
Since he's not changing.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Things it's not.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Happening the only thing potentially good that came out of
this AND i don't even know if it is good
because who even? Cares that's kind of my whole point
in this thing is who even cares What Tommy fury
had to say after his win and who he was
gonna call. Out but we'll listen to it, Anyway and
you guys tell me if this gets you fired up
for a, Fight i'm really. Curious so the whole world
is waiting for you to rematch With Jake.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Paul what do you think about?
Speaker 4 (11:13):
It Jake paul's a bitch and he's running.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Scared, Hey Jake han's six, now baby hands.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
SIX i thought a guy in here tonight is that
over one hundred how much of fights experience has and
he's as tough as. Tea Jake paul wants to step.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Inside THIS RINGU i guarantee you next Time i'm look
you spark.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Out i've got two years out there ring this is
after two.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Years i'll knock that bum out whenever he wants.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
It so, Yeah tommy again goes to the well with
the two years off in the hand. SURGERY i don't
Remember tommy's hand being an issue in The jake. Fis
matter of, FACT i remember it being an issue with
THE ksi. Fight but now we're flexing the hey hands
fixed hands. Fixed the Way tommy, punches he's gonna injure
his hand. Again the guy when he throws a right,
hand it's it's like a meat shovel right over someone's.
Head he's probably gonna hit the fucking ring post with
(11:56):
it and break the shit. Again you can TELL i
don't really. Care and that's the saddest part of. This
tommy had an opportunity to Fight jake already On. Netflix
he had the opportunity for millions of dollars and turned
the offer apparently there were rumors for another potential offer
to come his way publican. NEGOTIATION i get.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
It no one wants to do that stuff for the.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Public so if he was gonna Fight, jake he should
have done, it BECAUSE i don't know what the demand is. Now,
Right like, Again jake's about to Fight. Chavez well see
What ksi. Does he's, now you, know talking with the
ring And big he his excellency on something they're gonna do,
Next i'm. Sure and rumor was that Kas i And
connor McGregor were gonna Lock horns And, alcatraz But connor
turned it. Down so when you're talking about names Like, Chavez,
(12:35):
Junior Mike, Tyson connor McGregor outside of just pure pride
and want For jake And kosi to get their loss,
back AND i do think they need to revisit, that Especially.
JAKE i do think he needs to Revisit Tommy fury.
Fight but if he, doesn't it'll be because of shit like.
This and that's what's so frustrated as a, fan not
even as someone that wants to watch A Tommy fury,
(12:55):
fight BECAUSE i really.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
DON'T i, DON'T i don't.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Care this made me care even, less but as a
fan of this entire story arc of influencer crossover, boxing
to watch him go out and have a stinker like,
that then get on one of the two microphones from
the twin hosting ladies that were there and cut a
promo like, That jake's running. Scared i'm on a knocking spark.
(13:17):
Out tommy hasn't knocked anybody out and god knows how
long It's it's pure poppy. Cock as someone that's seventy
year olds old would, Say Tommy fury once again disappoints
in my, opinion AND i think that the big takeaway
from that fight, is, yeah he was off for two,
years their, play came out and. Fought but what Four
(13:38):
what did we?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Learn what did he? Get why did he do?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
It because in my, book in maybe comment, section you
let me, KNOW i think every single metric of his
stock as a boxer went down with this. Fight his
pay per view, drawability his, namesake his skill, level his,
talent and his ceiling all looked like they were worse
than we thought they were going into this. Fight at
least that's. Me you, guys let me. Know but, listen
(14:02):
we got a ton of stuff coming out this. Week
next video will probably be me talking Many pacquiao's, return
Which i've got some very pointed opinions.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
About we'll see what.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Happens but in this wild world of combat, sports you
can check in here at the way concept presented it
by The, ring where we don't always have the, answers
but for all the questions we do.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Have life continues to move, forward as.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Far As Timy fury and his life and whereabouts and
what happens next for him in combat Sports influencer, Boxing
will it Be, jake will be KASE? I i don't,
know and quite, frankly at this, POINT i don't know
THAT i actually even, care but don't have those, answers
SO i guess we'll find, out
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