THE W.A.D.E. Concept - WEEK IN REVIEW - Canelo Vs Crawford MADNESS, Jake Paul DOMINATES Chavez Jr and Illia Topuria is the REAL DEAL.. - The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Folks, we're back at the way cons that presented by
The Ring magazine. Today is press conference number two day
for Canelo versus Crawford. They just had the first one
out in Saudi Arabia, and I thought Canelo kind of
laid down the law on Terrence Crawford a little bit,
not to the degree that Turgiella Shaik laid down the
law to pretty much everybody in boxing. But I thought

(00:20):
that Canelo won the first one. If there is a
winner of press conferences, he looked more stoic. He was
telling Terrence he wasn't any different than anyone he'd ever face.
But we're back on us soil. We're in New York,
and I don't know if that's gonna give Terrence Crawford
any energy. But if that doesn't, I've heard a little
rumor saying that there's going to be some more faces
involved with this press conference, some teases going on about

(00:43):
not only who's involved with this presser, but who's involved
with this fight. The big name personalities are lining up.
Let's take a look at this thing and break it down.
Who potentially looks like they're getting the better of the
second press conference. We got one more in Vegas, but
today I made it back to New York. Canello versus
Crawford second press conference breakdown. Let's go, Let's get ready
to RUNBA Classic Classic. Look at this crowd. This is

(01:11):
the energy this press conference needed. You've seen some of
the talk online people saying, oh, they may be too buddy, buddy, listen.
I don't need them to be hurling insults at each
other or you know, going crazy, but I do need
some intensity. This is a massive fight. You're talking about
d Crawford trying to become three time ondisputed. You're talking
about Canelo Alvarez putting another historic name on his hit list,
and now is the undisputed at one sixty eight. This

(01:35):
needs some big fight feel in this crowd. If it
wasn't already feeling that way, this crowd is definitely gonna
make it. Got him walking in front of it, okay,
got him walking in front of the States. First, he's
getting booed.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Four times.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
I mean again, oh, he said four times, and then
Bud looked at the crowd and said five times. Dang,
I guess Canelo is the favorite here in New York.
I like it. Canello clearly is the superstar globally that
Terrence is just not right now, which is another reason
Terrence taking this fight makes sense for him. Right, you

(02:18):
get the Canelo rub pause, you potentially beat Canelo, and
you get some of the shine that he already has
across the world.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Domaz Capriero's day and hot on Maco.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
So Canello, let's go, Michael Buffer rolling our son. I'll
tell you what they are on board. Canelo is definitely
the babyface here. Dig h Wait, why did they sit
Turkey on Canelos side again? I guess because Canelo's the chant.

(02:51):
But Turkey said last time, I don't know why they
butched me here.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
I want to be in decide of Cruffer.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
He's taking sides, and again I have a feeling I
know who's about to come out, and they should make
him take Canelo's side. Do rating, do rating?

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Don't hurt me?

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Give me that a white damit.

Speaker 5 (03:11):
I need you to understand we have at the table
the most expensive boxing contract ever happened before.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
First off, I think the Canelo contract by itself, I
don't know what the number ended up being. That Turkey
signed Canelo for the four fight deal he signed him for,
but it was massive. If it's the most expensive in
boxing history, I mean, that would have to mean that
both of them are getting paid more than Lloyd and
Manny Pakiao got for their fight. And didn't they get
something like I don't want to mis quote, but not

(03:43):
the pocket wise here, But I just wondering didn't they
both get something over like one hundred and fifty million each?
If that's the case, good lord, oh my god, whatever
the number, I'm just happy we're getting it.

Speaker 5 (03:56):
Give the flag of the conference to my brother and
dear friends. Dana Whites, let's go.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Let's go on day to walking out in the T
shirt and Jean's son got the Canelo Versus Crawford's shirt on.
It's a little it's fitting a little tight. Data, it's
fitting a little tight. Yeah, you got the gun season out.
But we gotta get Gary Breka back on the phone.
Son zuofa Boxing. Okay, what's up in New York?

Speaker 6 (04:25):
Thanks for coming out today.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
We appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (04:29):
All right, let's get this started. Who's got the first question?

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Oh, we're going straight to the media. Dana didn't start
by saying anything. He went straight to media. This is
very interesting. Okay, you don't see a lot of boxing
press conferences like this, or at least not like what
you're about to see. Dana is gonna run this like
a UFC press conference, which I think personally works a
little better for combat sports. You don't have a lot
of the fluff where you get both guys to come

(04:55):
up to the podium and their coaches come up to
the podium. You really just get into what the or
what the fans or whoever's gonna ask questions want to ask.

Speaker 7 (05:04):
The question for you, Crawford would be obviously, there's a
bonus now for the for a knockout.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
Are you gonna be looking for that bonus? If so,
in what style? I'm hunting them? Hmmm, that's it.

Speaker 7 (05:14):
I'm hunting everything that he got and I'm gonna take
him come September thirty.

Speaker 8 (05:19):
Yeah, there you go, Bud, There you go, Bud, go hunting.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
One time a wild Canelo appears, go freaking air in
the Plumber style. Catch them all, baby, catch all them belts.
My Lord Rick Rito appears. Baby, it's got off the
golf course.

Speaker 9 (05:37):
If you win against Canelo, where would you rank yourself
among the list of greatest of all time?

Speaker 4 (05:43):
Win? I win?

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah? I knew I was gonna say as soon as
he said, if Bud wanted to get in that mic
and say win win, I win again. A different intensity
in this press conference from mainly from Bud Crawford. I
don't know if he saw some of the things online
that people were saying, or maybe he just felt he
wasn't himself in that first one. I didn't necessarily think
he did anything wrong in the first press conference, but

(06:06):
it just felt like more of a friendly kind of thing.
This one he doesn't look as friendly about. He's just
got a little bit more spite, a little bit more intensity,
which I like.

Speaker 6 (06:14):
For this to be the first fight that I ever
promote in boxing. It's incredible. It's an unbelievable experience.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
That is pretty nuts by the way that Dana is
stepping into one of the most watched boxing events and
potentially ever. We'll see how it goes, but it'll be
on the biggest platform right now you can have in
sports media, which is Netflix three hundred millions and subscribers,
and you're talking about the undisputed super middleweight championship. Everybody
feels on board for this thing, and Dana stepping into

(06:42):
this role as a massive start. It's the best start
you could have ever as a promoter.

Speaker 7 (06:47):
You know, there's a reason why I wasn't getting those
big fights because God was preparing me for this moment
right here, and this is my time.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
No doubt about it. If Terrence Crawford can come up
to one sixty eight jumping two weight classes again, I've
said this more really like three because he's had one
fight at one fifty four and beat the undisputed super
middleweight champion of Canelo. He's able to do this. This
is a career defining win. Forget about whatever the win
looks like as far as his other opponents. The Spence
win is great. This is career defining, This is legacy cementing.

(07:19):
This is huge. I think everything on this fight mostly
works in the favor as far as legacy is concerned
of Terrence Crawford. If Canelo beats Terrence Crawford, that's a
great win and it will definitely add a massive name
to his legacy. There are other things that Canelo can
still do to get even better in his legacy. This
is the one for Terrence Crawford.

Speaker 9 (07:39):
Is there a chance we see some cross promotional appearances
in wweh.

Speaker 10 (07:44):
We're talking about it. Maybe maybe you will see me?

Speaker 1 (07:49):
What hold on one? That is an interesting question. When
he asked it, I was like, what is he He's
asking Canelo to He's gonna go and do a wrestling show.
If Canelo shows up in the WWE, my jaw will
fall off my fucking face, dude. I mean, I never
even thought about it before Canello comes out. And again,
you know, Mexico has a great history with professional wrestling,
but I just didn't. It's not clocking to me right

(08:10):
now that he's standing on business. No, I would love
to see Canelo pop up in the WW him and Terrence.
Maybe not in a I don't know, maybe after the fight.
I don't know if I want to see him do
like a promo battle.

Speaker 7 (08:20):
I want all the people in the stands that boom me,
they gonna cry when they go home.

Speaker 8 (08:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
I like that, accepting I don't want to call it
a villain roll, but accepting this underdog mentality or this yeah,
go ahead, boom me, boom me now, cheer me later,
boom me now, and pay for it when I come
in and take out the Golden Goose. Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 10 (08:54):
I just found out what the sign language means for cry.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yikes, buddy, get the question out. I just cringed.

Speaker 6 (09:05):
You put on two great fights the same night. We
have UFC no Cha that night, and I know there's
a lot of questions about this. The main events will
not the main cards will not cross over.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
That's an interesting thing because I'm of the idea that
there's not a lot of crossover between UFC fans and
boxing fans, but on that night, specifically, because it's such
a massive fight with Canelo Crawford, that some MMA fans
are definitely gonna tune in, like they're definitely gonna take
a look and be like, Okay, that's a massive thing.
UFC no Chase big, but this is clearly bigger. He
says one fight is gonna run before the other. He

(09:36):
doesn't really say which one there, so I guess we'll
stay tuned to see which is which.

Speaker 10 (09:40):
Dan and Obio with Inside Boxing Live anse questions.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Let's go, let's go, my boy, Dank and Obio getting
his questions in. Talk to him Dad.

Speaker 10 (09:51):
For both fighters. We've seen some photos come out of
you guys eating together, kind of joking around. The interview
with Piers Morgan was very friendly of fans out there
that it is a gentleman's sport. Is their animosity and
what could you make of some criticism like, oh, these
guys look like they're friends.

Speaker 7 (10:07):
I respect Canelo just like I respect every one of
my other opponents before Canelo. But once it gets close
to that time, you know what I mean, It's time
to go to work, you know, and when we go
to work, I know what comes after that great answer.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yeah, Dan asked the question that a lot of people ask.
But they saw the picture with them eating dinner. They
saw the Peers Morgan interview. I was just more shocked
than the Peers Morgan interview that Peers just kept asking
about if they could kill Peers. He was like, Hey,
could y'all kill me? Could you strangle me? I was like, peers, what,
this isn't your platform to get off your fetishes, buddy.
This is a great answer to that question, like you
can have respect or your opponent and still as the

(10:46):
fight gets closer, that animosity builds. Regardless.

Speaker 6 (10:49):
I want to bring up the first member of our
broadcast team. Here's the best boxing analyst in the sport,
Ladies and gentleman, Max Kellerman.

Speaker 8 (10:56):
Oh, they teased him, they teathed him. Tell them to me,
let's go, Let's go. That's what I'm talking about, man,
This is what I need.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
When I say, you're getting some of the best and
brightest in boxing on this card. Yes, it's about the
fighters first and foremost. It's about Canelo, it's about Crawford,
it's not about Dana, it's not about Max, it's not
about anybody else. But when you get these guys as bonuses,
these are the right decisions to make. Max Kellerman has
so much history in this sport, so much ability to commentate,

(11:34):
to be an analyst, to be a part of a
commentary team. Trust me when I say, people in the comments,
you're going to get a special night of someone laying
out boxing the way it deserves to be laid out
and taking you on a journey with Max Kellerman.

Speaker 9 (11:48):
Canelo is sixty two and two with two draws, sixty
two to two and two. So is Marvin Hagler. When
Sugar Ray Leonard moved up to fight him and they
produced one of the biggest spectacles in the history of boxing.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Ah, let him come. When you have someone that can
tell the story of boxing and they could point to
the lineage of the best in the world fighting the
best in the world and make it all tied together
in a perfectly put together, fucking bo This is what
you need, man, I'm telling you, you're just getting a

(12:20):
little taste. By the way, he's just giving you a
little side piece, you know what I'm saying. He didn't
even give you the full meal yet. But look at
that grin on Dana White's face. He knows he's got
a real storyteller, someone that really understands the sport and
that can articulate it well to the fans in a
in a fashion that isn't overcomplicated.

Speaker 9 (12:38):
But I'm gonna start with you, why are you jumping
up and skipping a division.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
You just got to junior middleweight.

Speaker 9 (12:46):
You were given the best fight of your career at
junior middleweight by Madra Mah, who gave you a tougher
fight than Mage Mall. Stop that, and now you're who
someone gave you a tougher fight to Madge Mall.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
Listen, if y'all thought that was a fight, then well.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yo.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Max comes right in and sticks it on Bud. He's
trying to tell him, listen, you've already taken a tough challenge.
Now you're gonna go even tougher. But Bud taking it disrespectfully.
Max is right. That was not an easy fight like
that was a back and forth fight, and again it
was a bit of an odd one to watch. I
was there in person. It was something that we didn't expect.

(13:24):
Man Drop performed better than we expected.

Speaker 9 (13:26):
And there seems to be something out there, like the
way for you to win this fight is to move,
move move.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Is that true?

Speaker 10 (13:32):
Listen, Okay, you need to put us Mareene as Marene.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
That's the only ay man man.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 (13:48):
The only running that I'm gonna be doing is running
upside his head and not gonna show.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Talk to him. Let him know, Bud, let him know.
I told you from the moment he stepped on stage,
there was a different intensity. There was a different look
in his eye and you can even see it here
looking at it, you can see that. And again speaking
of the eyes, he ain't wearing no sunglasses. He looking
directly at you. Not to say that's anything, but I'm

(14:18):
telling you, Bud has got a different mentality in this presser.
He's tired of the question of him running, which again
I don't know where that questions coming from. Bud Crawford's
never been a runner. I love that answer because Canel's yeah,
make the ring smaller, Turkey, please please make the ring
smaller so he don't run. Terres said, I'm gonna run
these hands right upside your head. Let's go.

Speaker 9 (14:37):
And he got a big head too, Hey, Canelo, I mentioned.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Sugar Ray leg Dude, Canelo does have a noggin on him, though.

Speaker 9 (14:46):
This will be it's safe to say the most watched
Prize fight, more eyeballs on it than any fight in
almost fifty years, in almost.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
Half a centur Max is doing a great job with
this man. Look at Dana. Dana is cheesing dude. He
knows he got the freaking white whale. He got him.
He's such a good storyteller. Man, God, what a get
And now before we.

Speaker 9 (15:12):
Get out of here, Dana, you're gonna face the fighters off.

Speaker 11 (15:18):
Oh yeah, let's get to it.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
I saw what's about to happen on social media earlier today.
What I didn't see is the things that that precursed
what happened. We're gonna see a bit of a pushing
and shoving match here. But what I didn't take into
account was the entirety of this press conference. Who has
been on the offensive this press conference, It's been Terrence Crawford.
Who has been the more intense one in this press conference.
It's been Terrence Crawford, whether it's toward Canelo or the crowd. Yeah,

(15:44):
boomy boomy, way cry that whole thing, or talk tell
a Canelo he was gonna put hands on him, only
running his knee, running these hands across your face and
you got a big head. And now right before they're
about to face off, Look who is adamant about taking
the center? Canelo's still getting Mike off for doing something.
Terrence walked right to the center. The last press conference,

(16:05):
Canelo met Crawford over halfway. Let's say this is the
halfway point. Canelo met Crawford over here this presser, Prawford
has met him in the middle before Canelo's even turned
around again. Little things that may or may not matter,
but Crawford trying to send a message here. I'm the
one taking control from here on out. I'm sending you
a message that I'm not taking back steps. I'm not
meeting you where you want to meet me. I'm the

(16:26):
one dictating how this whole thing goes look at him. Ready,
my god. On the other side, you could say, okay,
mind games from Canelo making him wait, yeah, do all
that talk, all that stuff. But I've been here, I've
done that something you innovating.

Speaker 6 (16:42):
Yeah, the performance bonus that night is going to be
over six figures. We're still talking about it, so uh yeah,
it's gonna be a big number. Whoever wins the performance
bonus of the night that night.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Wow. Okay. So right in the middle of them getting
everything out of there, Dana just happens to kind of
throw out there that this performance bonus, which again is
something that Dana is bringing over from the UFC, and
you heard him say it even there. It's not a
KO bonus performance bonus. I assume it's gonna be, you know,
the highlight of the night, which is different from what
Turkey and them said, right they said it would be
a KO bonus. Dana saying performance bonus, which I like

(17:15):
better because you never know if a fight's gonna be
a knockout or if two fighters are just gonna go
in there and give it all and it could be
one of those fight of the night type things where
both guys get a performance bonus. I don't really know,
but if fighters are, you know, potentially gonna be on
this undercard. And for Canelo and Terrence Crawford, a six
figure performance bonus is nothing to shake their head at.
Now again, Crawford and Canelo are making more money than

(17:37):
they've ever made in their careers, so that whatever. But
if you're on this card, you have an opportunity to
steal the show and make six figures for yourself. I
love that. There we go again. Look look at this.

(17:57):
I told you. Look, I'm telling you there's there's the
mind games here are are are so evident. I know
that I usually don't read too much into it, but
it happened at the last one, and it's happening here.
Look at how Terrence Crawford answered how Canelo addressed him
in the first face off. Canelo again went past halfway.
Watch Terrence. Terrence is not stopping here, He's walking straight

(18:20):
up to him, way past Dana. Here's halfway. He's like, nah,
I'm meeting you at your front door. And he's backing
him up. Oh then there's the shove. Look at bow Mack.
Look at bow Mack. Oh shit, we got everybody getting
in there. Bernoso Security, Michael Buffer, bo Max one thing.

(18:43):
Bomax's gonna He's gonna right for his guys. Man, different
intensity this time around for Terrence again. You can read
you can read a lot of stuff into that. Look
at him, not like both guys stairs not leaving locked on,

(19:06):
you know, face off again this time Canelo off. See
See it's it's a game of tennis. It's a game
of back and forth. Because this time Canelo walks up
on Terrence. I gay, okay, you got that one off.
Watch this. I'm gonna push you back a little bit. Yeah, yeah, see,
I'm gonna push you back just a little Look at

(19:26):
that look, man, Oh what the hell? Wait what just
happened at the at the back end of this bo
Matt getting into it again. Oh my lord. Look at
both of them though, Man, that stare just locked on
each other.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Oh wee.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
That's what we like. That's what we like. I gotta
hear what they're saying, though, I gotta hear what they're saying. Hey,
there it is.

Speaker 12 (20:10):
There, it is.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
Hi.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Hey, hey, hey hei going to on Canelo hoie. Different
intensity this time around, man, I think there's one more angle.
I want to look at all. Right, So this is
the backside angle. Again. This is something that the UFC
does so good with their face offs, and I'm again
I don't see this a lot in boxing. This is

(20:35):
Dana White's actual own footage because he hands his phone
to somebody, one of the media team behind him when
he does these face offs, and they get an angle
that we do not ever get. And I don't know
how much we're gonna be able to hear on this,
but again, it's just little things like this that make
such a difference to me when I get to see
these face offs at a different angle, super up close,

(20:57):
get to hear what the fighters say. Let's take a
look straight up, man, and Bud just starts pushing him back,
and Canelo with the shove and then bus second on me.
Look at bow Mack Bomack went straight away, Nick con

(21:18):
trying to shine all them off. I got Ish doing
his thing. Hey, this is what they needed, though, man,

(21:38):
they need a little bit a little bit more intensity.
Look at Canelo this time. Let me walk up on
you as.

Speaker 11 (21:44):
Thoms, Bomax beefing the camera guy, bo Max beefing the
camera man trying to get the shot.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
No don't do what they gonna do. I got dang
Bo Mack's piste. He's pissed. He's beating the cameraman.

Speaker 13 (22:14):
Come on, box, can see its former guy.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
It's Dana's camera guy. To dang Bo Mac trying to
swing on Dana's cameraman. I'm dead, dang it. I couldn't
hear them, dang it. I wanted to hear what they're saying.
They're gonna have an angle for sure. That gets that conversation.
I need that. But folks, that's it. That's the end
of the breakdown. Listen, this was exactly what this fight needed.

(22:47):
A bit of a maturation process, we'll say, with getting
people to get engaged with getting this thing in front
of a massive audience. I think definitely helped bud Croft
for coming out with crazy intensity. He definitely helped. Again,
I think he got a little bit. I don't want
to say it got to him what Canelo did in
the first press are just kind of walking up on

(23:08):
him and getting on his side of the podium and
all that, but it definitely planted a seed in his
head and he came out, was talking to the crowd,
was talking to Canelo, was talking to everybody talking to
Max Kellerman about how he was gonna smack Canelo up
and all this. Now, you can read that a couple
different ways. You can read that as Canelo, you know,
being reserved. I mean, like, this guy's new to this.
I'm just gonna sit back and let him get all

(23:28):
his emotions out and looking super confident in his own right,
Canelo's like, hey, make that ring smaller. He ain't ready,
make that ring smaller. Don't run from me. He's got
his own mind games. He's playing. Telling Terrence, yeah, stand
in front of him. You ain't seen power like this.
He's not telling him that, but he's essentially saying, you're
not ready for this power. And then Terrence is like, listen,
you ain't about to punk me straight up. That's what
You're not about to punk me? Now again, is that
a little bit over emotional? Is he reaching a little

(23:50):
bit or is that just genuine Like, No, this is
the intensity I'm gonna have for the rest of the
time you see me. We had all that dinner stuff,
all that play nice. It's over. Now we're about to
fight and you're about to see Bud Crawford come out. Regardless,
I think This is a slam dunk press conference, doing
it at Fanatics Fest, doing it with Dana White leading it,
Max Kellerman giving you the history of boxing, and it
just weaving it into this fight. It's all coming together

(24:11):
the way this fight definitely needed to. I'm pumped already
and we still got a couple months to go. We
still have one more press conference in Las Vegas. But
you guys, let me know again. I try out to
pull winners and losers out of this. But I think
Bud Crawford gave an intensity that I did not see
in the first one, a focus, a bit of a
swagger in this one that I didn't see, and I'm
glad he did because this was what I wanted to see.

(24:32):
And I think Bud comes out of this press conference
looking good. Yeah, people are bulling him. Canello's got all
the fans, but he's he's on his I don't give
a fuck stage right, like whatever, do all that. I'm
gonna upset all y'all. I'm gonna make y'all cry. Love that,
And that's why I think Bud shine in this one.
Canello still did his thing, and we'll see what happens
in the next one. But comment below. What you guys
think that's it, and that's all. I don't know what
happens next. I don't know what happens in the fight,

(24:53):
but I do know this thing is going to be massive,
and you're starting to see it already trending in that
direction that when it was announced, but now you're seeing
the fruits of the labor of Turkey Alla Shake. Nick
con dain't know why everybody involved with putting this together,
getting the right people, Max Kellerman, whoever else is gonna
be there ultimately focusing on these two awesome legendary fighters,

(25:14):
Canelo and Crawford. What happens next, I guess we'll find out.

Speaker 14 (25:17):
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a little bit of an odd matchup. It is one
that kind of makes sense. I'm talking about Jake Paul,
Julio Caesar Chavez Junior. If you didn't know fight's going

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on this Saturday, I'm gonna be live right here on
this channel twenty four hours for that fight, and you
FC three seventeen. It's gonna be an extravaganza of a
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we will be interacting with the chat, playing games, having
fun all leading up to this fight and the main
event of UFC three seventeen. But today Jake and Julio

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Caesar Chavez Junior had their first face to face a
fight week and just judging by the picture that I'm
seeing in front of me, it looks like it's gonna
be a doozy because Chavez Junior looks like he's on
actual drugs right now. I have no idea what to
expect from this, but let's get into it. Jake Paul,
Julio Chvez Junior, face off, the breakdown. Let's go how

(26:38):
dumb if I play with the diamonds? What is happening, dude?
Is that his resting face the world.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yes, oh.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Angry on Saturday Night Live on.

Speaker 4 (26:59):
Well, Jake another.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
I'm sorry, who is this? And why is he sitting
next to Chris Mannix? Am I supposed to know who
this is? Is that a translator? Like? Whose man's is this? Okay?
I have no idea. Maybe I'm just uneducated, but my
man is here in the in the somewhat middle. I
mean he's taking up more in the middle than Chris
Mannix is. But all right, we got two moderators.

Speaker 12 (27:20):
The WBA and WBC plan on ranking me depending on
my performance.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
I don't really know what that means, right. Boxing rankings
from these sanctioning bodies at this point don't really mean
a ton to me, and that's not a disrespect to
Jake or anybody else. But like Manny pak Yao just
got a title fight after being off for four years,
just got ranked. Devin Haney just got ranked in the
division he's never fought in, and that's happened in multiple
cases as well. I have a feeling that pretty much
at any point, if Jake is continuing to win fights,

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these companies are going to rank him because he makes
money and he brings in money for these sanctioning bodies
and whatever their fee is to fight for their belt. Eventually,
I don't think that means he gets ranking and now
a world title shot. But and again, who knows.

Speaker 12 (28:01):
His dad is one of the best ever do I
like building my resume having the best looking box wreck
of all time Mike Tyson, Iron Woodley Anders And.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
So it's a very interesting way to put it. I've
told you guys before that Jake is a master of
narrative constructing, and that don't mean that again in necessarily
a bad way. Jake's box Reck, if you look at
it right now, does have a who's who of popular
combat sports names on it. And to be honest, Jake's
box wreck has more experience in his first ten or
whatever eleven fights than most fighters would even without an

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amateur career. And this isn't meet lazing. But the point
I'm making is he does have Mike Tyson's name on it,
knowing that Mike Tyson was nowhere near what Mike Tyson
was at any point in his actual boxing career, but
still has the name on it. So the weight of
it is heavy, no pun intended, But it isn't necessarily
the best boxing wreck of all time, which is why

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I said he wants to build the best looking boxing
wreck of all time.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
So he's now a real boxer.

Speaker 15 (28:59):
But all I fight, I like, uh have like breemuch
with the Canelo or not another big name, but I
think he is the perfect opponent for me.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
And Julio says, Chavis Junior cannot rematch Canelo right now.
I'm sorry, no one is going to pay to watch
that fight. Canelo is not interested in that fight. The
reason that Chavez Junior took this fight is because, yes,
Jake is a massive name, and also because he's probably
getting paid more to fight Jake than he would to
fight anyone that he realistically can fight right now, blank period.

(29:29):
Nothing wrong with that, But just don't lie and be like,
oh yeah, well I could have taken the Canelo rematch,
but instead I went and like, no, you couldn't.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
Do you think this is going to be a tough
fight for you?

Speaker 15 (29:39):
So Yank is uh young? You know it's too young,
so a lot of energy. That's the big part, the
difficult part to fight a new guy.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
And Julio gives probably the most honest answer he can't.
He's like, yeah, every fight's different, He's young, so he
has a lot of energy. I think that, you know,
Jake also has a lot of power. Chavia Junior has
never seen again. He's moving. I don't know how many
weight classes from middleweight, probably never fought a guy that
hits as hard as Jake does. Not to say that
Jake's you know, exorbitantly powerful or anything like that. He
may be, but it's just he's a cruiserweight. Chives Junior's five.

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I think once at cruiserweight, maybe twice now. Jake's youth
is a massive factor for him. Chavez Junior is thirty nine,
He's not, you know, fifty or whatever, but got a
lot of boxing miles on him, has some obviously outside
of the ring substance issues, been out of the ring
and on and off for the last however long, is
taking massive breaks, so all that's gonna factor in. I
do think that there's a path for Chavez Junior. I

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don't think it's the most likely one for him to
win this fight, but I think there's a path.

Speaker 12 (30:36):
There, and it's gonna be a very upsetting night for him.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
Look at them, I don't put them out of the way.
Must better said than this.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
You're gonna fuck him up. I think that's easier.

Speaker 12 (30:44):
Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
I'm so confused. Who is this guy? He's like short
form translating for Jake has got to be like one
of Jake's homies or like some some famous person that
I'm just not aware of. But I have no idea
who this is. Dude, Like yo, uh, Julio. Just so
you know, I know you can understand English because you've
been speaking in English throughout this entire face to face,
but I'll put it in an easier way for you

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to hear He's gonna fuck you up, and then he
said it in English. I mean, listen. I like Jake's confidence.
Whatever you want to say about Jake. He puts in work, man,
he does. He puts in work down there in Puerto Rico.
He has some great training partners, and Gabrozatto was in
camp with Jake. This time around, he'll be prepares again.
I want to see something I haven't seen out of
Jake in his last couple of fights. To be honest,
I didn't see it in the Mike Tyson fight with

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however you want to think about that. I didn't see
it in the Perry fight. I just haven't seen Jake
look like he is doing more to improve in a while, right,
I haven't seen him take that next step yet, like
he could stop Julio with pure brute strength and an
iron chin and just being able to find a shot
either earlier later on in the fight. But I want
to see Jake's feet get back under him. I want
to see him be a little bit more controlled in
what he does. But also, where's the jab bin right,

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where's the in and out movement been? Where's the angle
cutting bin? I want to see some more of that.
And again because the only reason I say that is
Jake keeps talking about world title, world title, world title.
I need to see Jake look better than he's ever looked.
I think that's the only measure of success for Jake here,
because everything else, like there's nothing really the game.

Speaker 12 (32:09):
You're not training properly, and then you have these fat
sparring partners who you think mimic me.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Well, one of the the wrong with fat people, oh
Man got offended in the middle of the question for one,
that's crazy. You don't talk about fat people that way.
He also let me translate what he just said. Okay,
so again maybe translator, I don't know, but yeah, Jake,
I guess has got some people that are around Chavez
Junior's camp that are telling him, like, what's going on?
He said, you're sparring fat people getting ready go work out,

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Go workout. The fat guy sitting there.

Speaker 15 (32:43):
I want to put him back, make him work extra war.
You know that's my my, my, my structing is not
about my my my.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Uh, he's gonna fuck you up. Well, are you gonna
make you dizzy? And then he's gonna knock you out?

Speaker 1 (32:57):
So interesting. I mean again, I like that answer from Chavez.
It's gonna be obviously easier said than done to push
Jake backward when he is the stronger, bigger fighter, and
if you are stubborn enough to stay in the pocket
with him long enough. Not saying Jake's a great combination puncher,
but he's gonna find something at some point, whether it's
the overhand right he likes to go to. He has
a nice left hook now. But I will say when

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Jake is at his worst is when he is pushed
backward when you do interrupt him, usually with the jab
right if you're volume heavy. I mean that I'm pointing
to the Tommy Fury fight, the one fight where Jake lost.
He was interrupted with a jab consistently, could not build
momentum in his offensive game because he couldn't get his feet,
couldn't get his hands going because he couldn't get his feet.
He was always having to reset either backward or circle out,

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and he wasn't able to put together consistent, efficient offense.
It was one shot at a time, usually a check
left hook jab in between. He landed one big overhand
right in that fight. But I don't necessarily hate Chives
Junior saying you know, I'm gonna have to push him
back a little bit.

Speaker 15 (33:53):
He just Mike Perry, Oh my god, man, this is
a can't be bother man. No, let me see.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
He said he's a worse Mike Perry. And what I
get from Jake saying that is that he thinks Chavez
Junior is going to be a punching bag, that he's
going to be able to be tough and take punishment
to get to where he wants to get to. If
that's the case, yeah, Jake's gonna knock him out cold.
If Chavez Junior is is a bit more calculated, if
he does mix things up. If he does set things
up again, work him behind his jab, then no, that's

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not the same person at all. And by the way,
I don't agree that Mike Perry is a better boxer
than Chavez Junior. No, I wouldn't even say it's close.
Perry is tough, he is durable, and those guys are
are tough to get out of there. They're dogs. Perry
is a fucking dog. But skill for skill, Chavez Junior
is a better boxer.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
And you know it too.

Speaker 12 (34:46):
I see it in your eyes.

Speaker 15 (34:47):
Mike Man, maybe he's a great fire man.

Speaker 4 (34:50):
I go with Mike.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
I don't know what the hell is happening, But as
Junior says, he would take Mike Tyson to beat Mike Perry.
That's interesting. But anyway, Jake says something there, I see
how you fight, I've seen how you're training. He thinks
that Javis Junior is gonna plot forward without the jab
or without anything to set up his big attacks, to
then swing behind the high guard, get to range, take
some punishment, and then try to deliver. If that's what

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actually happens, and he's not clever and he does think
he's just gonna walk forward behind a high guard and
push Jake back. Then, yeah, Jake's gonna batter him because
you have to give him something. You have to Taking
a beating is not how you win this fight. Mike
Perry had his ribs broken in the first exchange of
the fight by Jake's right hand. That's not Jake's too strong,
too explosive to to just walk forward and take punches
the entire fight.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
We're critical of Jake fighting.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Mike Tyson, did you have a problem with that?

Speaker 4 (35:38):
He's OK.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Yeah, so he doesn't believe in elderly abused.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
Is just kind of saying.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
He said he understands the money, but he doesn't like.

Speaker 15 (35:46):
That a young man is fighting a six year old help.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Yeah, that he would have let himself get an ass
to old man in great.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
Ext what's crazy is Mike, I don't know if that's
like an accurate translation, but this dude's funny. I I
love this translator.

Speaker 12 (36:01):
It's gonna be a quicker and shorter night for you,
which I know you like. I know you like quitting
and giving nothing when you have.

Speaker 4 (36:09):
Like a real career.

Speaker 15 (36:10):
You had a lot of things in like good fight
and also good sometimes I'm not there, like mentally I'm prepared, like, uh,
physical and mentally, you know, because I have surprising.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
That's a very honest answer from Jivez Junior to say, hey, listen,
you know when you have a real career throwing some shade, Hey,
when you got a real career, there are gonna be
NICs where you don't show up your best. There's gonna
be nights when you're not physically there, when you're not
mentally there. And obviously that's a lot of what happened.
Julio says the job as Junior's career, it wasn't just
on fight night, it was in fight camp. But the
problem is it still does give credit to what Jake's saying.

(36:44):
He does quit on himself in fights and in camp.
At the end of the day, it does tell Jake
that you can be pushed to a point of quitting
no matter what happened.

Speaker 15 (36:53):
You know, I love boxing, so I want to I
feel great, you know, I feel great, and I want
to show Uh.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
I'm gonna be honest. This does not sound like a
super confident I'm going to win no matter what answer,
and it sounds like a very introspective answer and one
that like is honest, right, He's like, what's different now
is that I'm committed to boxing. I'm not self sabotaging.
I'm not out doing you know whatever else outside of
the ring. I'm disciplined. I'm boxing. I'm putting myself in
the best position possible no matter what happens. And I've

(37:23):
got a different mindset, a different focus. But you don't
hear the words win in there. For Chabitz. Obviously he
wants to win, but you don't hear him dead set,
locked in mentally, there's no other outcome that's possible besides winning.
And that's concerning. I'm sure he wants to win. I
just don't know if it's in his mind. The only
thing that matters, and I think it needs to be
for him to get this done.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
He wants to look the best he can. He's focus,
he's locked in.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
No more drugs, no more bitchhit.

Speaker 12 (37:46):
Yes for you, locked in, you would say again in
your camp against your eyehol.

Speaker 15 (37:51):
Yes, I'm training so I win. The fire only seeks
on the sea shoe for you see the fight and
see oh who you Donna look good? So I want
to be Julia, So I want to do this for
me to fight.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Jake is essentially trying to ask chive A Junior if
he trained really hard, because Jake doesn't believe he looked
very good versus your Ryeh Hall. And I agree that
fight was not a great look. Ryah Hall had never
had a boxing match and came in and went toe
to toe with him over six rounds. It was kind
of a low volume, low output fight that you can
argue Ryah Hall should have won more rounds than he did.
But Chavi Junior is trying to say, oh, yeah, you
know I won that fight, and you know, maybe I

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wanted a little closer than you think I should have,
but I did that so that I could get the
Jake fight. So Jake would look at me and say, oh,
I want to fight Julio Sazer Chavez Junior. I don't
know how true that is. A lot of people can say, oh,
I just did enough to win so I get the
big fight. If that's true genius if not. And it's
just the fact that Chavez Junior doesn't have much left.
Like Jake said, it's going to be a short night
for because that fight was rough.

Speaker 15 (38:48):
I lost a couple of fight, but I never see
a guy then he beat me and bring me down
and put me like down two three times.

Speaker 9 (38:55):
And so the way ever just whooped it out before,
it's always been a good fight.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
He's like there, man, he's ready to get this fight
on anything. He's gonna be a great fight.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
Yeah, you agree with that?

Speaker 1 (39:04):
I just I mean, we'll hear Jake answers.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
I would, I would agree with that. He couldn't be
but he never just completely whooped his ass.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
But what is that mentality? You know what I mean?
Like that's supposed to be a former world champ talking
about well I might have gotten beat, but no one
ever whooped me going into a fight with Jake Paul?
What this is the world? Man?

Speaker 4 (39:27):
You think you're better than Tommy here?

Speaker 2 (39:28):
Of course?

Speaker 15 (39:29):
Man, of course that's no question. Man, I'm much better
than him. So he three hard and his muscle guy
to him, I think is better than him now because.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
I don't disagree with this take, by the way from
Julio sazer Chibas Junior, Jake losing to Tommy was less
about Tommy's high level boxing ability and more about his age,
his size, his youthfulness, his experience that Jake maybe didn't
have at that point, and also just the measurables. Tommy
has a crazy reach and he was able to touch
Jake with the jab, and Jake wasn't super fast compared

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to him, or he wasn't you know, he didn't have
these massive physical abilities or physical advantages. So when those
things were one to one, Tommy had a little more experience.
Jake has gotten I think in the last year, if
you want to count the Mike Tyson fight, four or
five fights since Tommy fought him, has gotten experience, has
gotten a ten round fight under his belt. I don't
disagree that Julio sayser Job is far better boxer, world

(40:30):
champion level boxer, even though again, however you want to
look at his world championship, he was a top level
great boxer, good to great boxer. The question isn't his skills.
It's more so how much has stayed around at thirty
nine and how much better has Jake gotten? Question? I
always ask how much better has he gotten?

Speaker 15 (40:48):
They say, oh, he's the sign of the chib is Man.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
I'm sutty.

Speaker 15 (40:53):
I don't want, I don't can say nothing about this
situation because he's like that. So, oh my god, some
things is to.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Wanha I was gonna say. I don't know what Java
is saying right now, but he's just laughing. I have
no idea what he's saying.

Speaker 12 (41:13):
You don't give a funk about his dad, so you
don't love your dad?

Speaker 2 (41:18):
She gets up to I love his dad for she
gets up.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Oh wait the bapa.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
Oh see something about his dad.

Speaker 12 (41:29):
I didn't say anything about his dad. I just asked
him if he loved his dad.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
Yeah, go after Greg Paul. Yeah yeah, jav is talk
that ship about fucking GP. Where are we at? Man?
This is insane. A former world champion is being encouraged
to talk about Jake Paul's father. What the hell do.

Speaker 4 (41:46):
You think there's any chance you can lose to this man?

Speaker 2 (41:50):
No?

Speaker 15 (41:50):
Man, So everybody have a chance, but it's not No.
I don't see any.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
Anyway.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
I don't believe him either. I don't believe him either.
He's sitting there with his arms crossed like I don't.
Everybody got a chance to lose, but I don't think
not this maybe not this time. Just no, I'm not
losing to him. I will not let it happen. What
is this?

Speaker 2 (42:19):
If you were to lose him, would you quit boxing forever? Yeah?
So I mean, he says that if if if he
loses this fight, he's done.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
He answered it would you retire if you lost to Jake?
More confidently than he answered, are you going to lose
to Jake? Let that sink in.

Speaker 15 (42:41):
Could you have a lot of promotion, Your tube and
everything promote fighters, So you already good? So you ready
for a lost your second fight, and after that you
maybe you be a good fighter.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
You know, Jake has more to lose here. Let's be
honest about it. Jake is the guy with looming potential,
big money fights out there, whatever it's gonna be. I
don't really like the idea of him fighting Jervonte Tank Davis,
but they've talked about that out of the two of them,
which is crazy to say. Jake has more of a
chance of fighting Canelo Alvarez than Julio, sayser Chrivez Junior does.
And yet you know, whatever else out there, Jake has

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big money fights. You lose to him and the Canelo
fight goes away forever.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Do you see yourself taking a shot he may be
able to fight kicking it.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
I was gonna say, Julio says, Chrivis Junior. Don't need
to be around any drinks anymore.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
We can't be encouraging more addictive struggles for a former addict.
Let's just move on.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
They whoops your ass. He's gonna go to YouTube and
your chain people and they come back.

Speaker 12 (43:43):
Man, Honestly, I don't think you can do it.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Yeah, Bro, listen, you gotta have a little bit of
personality to jump on YouTube. People like the Cobra himself,
Carl Froge, Anthony Joshua, even somebody like Tyson Fury. They're
big enough stars and they have good personalities to make
it on YouTube. Who says, Junior, I don't think you're
making it on YouTube, my boy.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
You can be a YouTuber.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Okay, he gets it.

Speaker 4 (44:08):
It's embarrassment.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
He just calls you embarrassing YouTube.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Okay, so this guy is a YouTuber all right. I
didn't know. So he's yeah, he's saying that being in
a YouTuber's embarrassing, right, Jake?

Speaker 4 (44:24):
You mentioned not for me.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Bro made a life off this ship staying on bizz Man.

Speaker 12 (44:29):
Every Mexican I've just met walking around with my flood
attendant on the way.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Here, he was like, Man, we don't like taves. We
don't like him orderline, what is that accent? Like, down, man,
that's crazy. You gotta real that accident. Dog, We're gonna
do it. We gotta do it right, that's what that's what.

Speaker 8 (44:53):
It kind of sounds like I'm not the best of that.

Speaker 12 (44:56):
But yeah, they're like, we're rooting for you.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
You think you're fighting. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (45:07):
There's nothing he does that that can offset anything I'm
gonna do to him, not a single thing. Cardio, pace, output, jazz,
body work, inside fighting, wherever the fight goes, however the
fight goes, he's gonna be outworked in every single round.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Do you see the difference? And again, I know you
can call it delusion, whatever fringe that Jake talks like this,
but do you see the level of difference and confidence
when he's asked that question versus like whatever we get
from Chabez Junior when he's dancing around and answer it's
night and day.

Speaker 12 (45:37):
He's gonna learn that I'm one of the most heavy handed,
fastest people in the sport of boxing period. Out of
every single weight class, pound for pound, I'm one of
the strongest, hardest hitting people in the whole entire sport.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
The bold claim, it's a bold claim about the fastest.
But I mean, Jake hits hard. I know that. But
pound for pound in the sport, Martin Mccoli up there,
Tank Davis up there, the mind stre in a way
up there, Yantay Wilder there. There's some heavy, heavy, heavy
hitters in the sport of boxing right now. I don't
know if Jake is there, butter BV is there. I

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don't know, but Jake does it hard.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
You look like you want some ship is here today?

Speaker 9 (46:18):
What the Oh?

Speaker 1 (46:21):
Okay, Jave is Junior accusing Jacob being on PDS. Oh okay,
let's hear what. Let's hear this discussion. You're saying this
dumb here, the.

Speaker 4 (46:36):
One of the world.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Yes, oh here, look at me, man, he's angry little.

Speaker 12 (46:43):
But you say stupid ship?

Speaker 1 (46:45):
Like what does he even say? Okay, so he says
something about the diamonds. I'm the first powerful bound YouTuber.
So I don't know what that was. But Chavez is
like convinced that Jake is on PDS or he says,
you look like you're on stuff. And Jake says, all right, well,
vadas here today. We'll see. But if they are doing
of testing for this, then we'll know. We'll know if
if Jake gets hit with something, and if they've been

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doing VADA testing since camp started, will know if that
were to happen under Vada, that would be a huge story. Huge.
But I've never heard of Jake failing a drug drug
test ever. But I guess Chaves Junior is saying, you're
a YouTuber and then you're number wanting to be number
one pound for pound, how does that happen? And he's saying, okay,
you must have taken pds. But Jake has never popped ever.

Speaker 15 (47:25):
So think about the situation, timing and an opponent's timing.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
I thought he said diamonds, but.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
I think he's saying that he never took an advantage
of the situation, right.

Speaker 12 (47:43):
I thought he was just about to cry, so.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
I got that.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
I think he said, you're gonna cry maybe after did
you seem to make sense?

Speaker 1 (47:56):
Yeah, maybe I'll cry after I beat you. He's like
a Jake's Oh that doesn't doesn't really make any sense.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
Okay, would you take.

Speaker 4 (48:05):
You don't anymore?

Speaker 12 (48:07):
Just a little bit, bro, I think it'll be fine.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
We can't know, we can't what was this enabling we're doing?
Chaves Junior, No, you're clean for the last two years. Please.

Speaker 12 (48:18):
We saw his last fight. I was pretty snooze fest,
and I'm just going to continue to give fans knockouts
and electric fights.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
I told you guys this when this fight was booked
that Jake part of the reason I think for taking
Chavez Junior specifically if he couldn't get Canelo, however close
that fight was to happening, is to frame work. Put
out the catchphrase, the line, and also, you know it
does have some validity, at least on paper. He wants
to be able to say he was able to knock
out Chavez Junior and do something Canelo couldn't because Canelo

(48:47):
couldn't knock out Chiavez Junior when Chavez was a little
bit better and obviously still locked into the sport and
younger and all that, but he couldn't knock him out.
And Jake, if he knocks him out, is going to
use that as ammo to try to get the Canelo fight.

Speaker 12 (48:59):
It's going to be a relatively easy knight for me.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Easy knight, he says, how do you think this fight ends?
Not quote later, Oh, this.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Is it's like again. When I look at him say that,
he's like quite he's like, knockout maybe decision. I don't know.
I just don't see a lot of confidence in the
answers of Chavez Junior looking forward to it and good luck,
thank thank you. All right there it is the face
to face for Jake Paul to Julio Caesar Chavez Junior.

(49:32):
Jake saying he's gonna knock him out early, Javez Junior
hopes to knock him out late or potentially gets him
in a decision. I mean, yeah, I think that's how
everybody kind of looks at this fight. Like Jake being
the younger, more explosive, stronger guy, potentially can catch Chavez
Junior early, hurt him with something, put him away. But
if this fight does go later, how does Jake carry
his power? He's been able to do that before. Honestly,
this face to face didn't give me a lot of

(49:53):
confidence in Julio Chavez Junior. I'm sorry I didn't see it,
not to say that he can't do some things, because
I think that again, the body works. Some of the
stuff he said about pushing Jake back, if he's using
his jab and not just walking forward with a high guard,
could get pretty interesting. I think that that could be
a way that blusters and frustrates Jake and makes him
fighting away. He doesn't like fighting which is on the
back foot, very reactionary, very much countering, versus being on

(50:15):
that front foot and initiating. He doesn't like to fight
that way, and not many guys have been able to
really push him that way. But if that's possible for
Chavez Junior, that's a path to victory. What I think
is more likely is that he tries to do that,
gets hurt with something or gets hit with something that
backs him off and Jake starts to slowly take over,
potentially yeah, leading to a knockout. But it's the first
fight video of fight week. For this one, I have
some more breakdowns comments, stay tuned what happens in this fight,

(50:38):
and also will you take away from this face to
face because I didn't get a lot of confidence from
Chavez Junior, But maybe I'm just missing something. Let me
know in the comments. And this Saturday live in the
Honda Center in Ajeheim, California, Jake Paul Julio says, with Chavez,
who wins? I guess we'll find out.

Speaker 14 (50:52):
He We mean, if you're with me, Yugasli We mean,
if you steal like five fifty on a FASTI he
canna get high. We mean that's a deal, right. Would
mean if you're wouldn't you slide?

Speaker 1 (51:02):
Would mean if you feel like five folks. I have
not covered this as much as I feel like I
probably should have to this point. But Jake Paul and
Julio Saser Chabez Junior are fighting the Honda Center on
June the twenty eighth, right here in my backyard, Nana
in California's fight has kind of gone under the radar
since it's been announced. They had one press conference where
Julio Caesar Chavez Senior was in one hand giving Jake

(51:25):
his respect and another completely disrespected him, calling him a YouTuber.
But this fight seems to make a lot of sense.
It checks a lot of the boxes for what Jake
either wants to do or is trying to do, and
that is become a world champion but also secure at
Canelo Alvarez fight. Why do those two things matter? Because one,
Jake is fighting whether he's in the same weight class

(51:45):
or not Juliosser Chavez Junior, who is a former world champ,
And two he's a man that also fought Canelo Alvarez
and Canelo couldn't stop him. Jake, void of all context,
is going to essentially say, if I stop Julio Sayser
Chabez Junior, I did something Canelo couldn't. And yes it
would be a different weight class, and yes it would
be years after Chavez in his prime and after addiction
issues and all those things, but it would still be

(52:08):
a meaningful win. Even though Jake already beat somebody that
beat Chavez recently, I still have no problem with the fight.
In fact, I enjoy watching these kind of fights because
it shows me where Jake's level potentially can be. I
don't think he's gonna one punch knockout Chavez in the
first round. I think it's gonna be a little more difficult.
But we have some training footage chat, so let's take
a look and see where Jake's at, where Chavez Junior

(52:29):
is at, and before we get into fight week two
weeks from now, what we can gather from at the breakdown.
Let's go, So here is Jake Pauler sparring somewhere. I
still haven't figured out where Jake's camp is located right now.
I don't know if he's back in California, I don't
really know, but here he's sparring. I don't know if

(52:50):
he's sparring our guy who's in Cason, I don't know
if that's him here, but Jake is sparring what looks
to be a light heavyweight or maybe smaller cruiser weight.
And I'll see what he's got. Nice little body shot there,
I looks like Moose and though nice old body shot,
maybe a little low. I don't like this right hand,
but again, I can focus on the stuff that I

(53:12):
don't like, or to excuse me, the stuff that I
do like. I like that he hides it with the jab.
I don't like that he kind of slaps it out
there and then gets more square good reactions for Moose
and Casin. Though that's a good that's a decent belt
line shot. Yeah, right hand kind of winged it. But again,

(53:33):
I throw right hands the exact same way. But I'm
also not to I'm not about to find a former
world champion, not that Julio sayser Chribez is that level anymore.
But counter upper cut is there if you want to throw.
When he throws, the right hand is there. Jay can
take punches, but a little sloppy, you know. It's a
nice jab to exit though. We like that. I like

(53:53):
the jab to set up the shot to the body, right,
I like the jab on the exit. I like that.
That's good stuff. Something I've worried about with Jake for
a long time now is that I feel like he
is and I've said this before. I don't know if
it's on video anywhere, I feel like he has sacrificed
a bit of technique for a lot of power. Right.
I feel like there's some of his technique has gone
by the wayside in favor of throwing big, heavy power

(54:14):
in exchanges because he is leaned into that power, and
he should. Jake is a puncher. EVENNA like hearing that,
but he is. He drops damn near everybody he's in
there with. But it has looked a little more sloppy like,
and I think that's fair to say. Is that because
of the weight gain? Is it because of a conscious
effort to get away from being a little more technical
and just sitting down on punches In a fight like this,
If Juliosser Chavez Junior comes in and is actually taking

(54:38):
this seriously, he's gonna have to be a bit more
technical than he was with Mike Perry and he was
with Nate Diaz. He's gonna have to be sharp, not
because Chavez Junior is a puncher, because he's not. He
wasn't even a puncher like that at one hundred and
sixty pounds and that's crazy one hundred and sixty to
two hundred. But the countershots can be there, and you
still don't want to get hit with those, no matter
if you're a cruiserweight or wherever else at the fault
of his technique. When you have a guy in Julio

(54:59):
Osser check As Junior who the public might not think
as a chance, and maybe he doesn't, maybe he's not
taking it very seriously. But the chances he does have
is if he's able to or ten rounds put together
a boxing masterclock. Because I don't think he's knocking Jake
out and get hurt Jake. I don't see him knocking
him out. Maybe if Jake tires himself out, but he's
gone ten rounds a couple of times now. But I
just I want to see how Jake does against a experienced,

(55:22):
technically gifted boxer, because what Julio sayser Chavez was. He
wasn't a hard worker, he wasn't a big puncher, but
he was technically gifted at very natural talent for the sport.
Whatever you want to say about his work, ethic and
what he ended up being as a boxer, he was very,
very gifted technical jeans it all made. If he has
any bit of that left, I want to see a

(55:42):
more technical Jake here.

Speaker 4 (55:43):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
I don't want to see him go away from the power,
but I worry that he has sometimes invested too much
into it and become a little more slot on fight.

Speaker 12 (55:51):
Night, the version of Jake that you're going to see
as my best my words yet Kay, the case I
match up with Chavez, stylistically, I'm going to put on
a Boxting classic picked.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Him apart, and people are.

Speaker 12 (56:03):
Gonna be able to see the skill set that I've
been working on in the gym that I haven't been able.

Speaker 9 (56:08):
To showcase in recent fights yet.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
I do feel like it's always something Jake refers to
when he talks about fights he's about to have, is
that I haven't been able to showcase it. I haven't
been able to showcase it, and for certain fights I agree.
You know, he stops Andrea Agus quickly, he stops Ryan
Borland quickly. And those aren't fights where you could really
see if Jake had gotten better since the Tommy lost.
But you know, I wasn't overly impressed with what Jake
did and the Mike Tyson fight. I think he knew

(56:34):
he kind of had to be more safe, even though
people were saying, oh, he just carried Mike. I think
he was just like, let me not make a mistake.
Mike Perry fight. You know, it got a little sloppy.
You could say, Okay, Jake had a short camp and
was cutting weight for the first time, like from two
forty to two hundred or whatever he was, so you know,
his gas tank maybe wasn't there. I don't know. But
I haven't been impressed technically with Jake since, you know.

(56:56):
I mean I was impressed in the Tommy Fury fight
even though he lost. I was impressing in an ADS
with how he handled Nate Tho he should have done
that tonight. But I want to see the stuff he's saying.
When he's like I haven't been able to showcase it.
I want to see what that is. Why haven't you
been able to showcase it. And why is this fight
gonna be the one that lets us see it once again?
Because at a certain point we got to find the plateau,
We got to find the peak of where Jake's going

(57:17):
to be. Is that going to be world title? I
don't think so, but that's just one man's opinion. I
want to see if he's continuing to gain levels because
he's been at this for a while now. You know,
Chavis Junior doesn't look super blown up at this weight either.
You know, he looks strong. Jake, on the other hand,
looks almost like squatty, you know, almost almost like kickboy

(57:39):
at even at cruiserweight. I really think that that blow
up to make the Mike Tyson wait really messed with
his body like composition. Because they say this about fighters
all the time. When you start jumping around weight and
then trying to go back down, it's it's more difficult
than it was before you gained all that. I mean,
that's clear, but you sometimes fighters don't ever lose all
of the weight. The body position changes. Roy Jones Junior

(58:02):
is a perfect example of that. Jumping around and waits.
You know, I think, on top of the fact that
it was getting to be later in his career affected
him so detrimentally that it ended up costing him a
lot some fight. So I just wonder, can Jake ever
get to a functioning cruiser weight that looks like he
is in that weight class and not cutting to that
weight class and still have the pop and still have
the footwork and still have the activity needed to compete

(58:24):
at a high level in that weight class. Or is
he gonna be a guy that's very plotty with his
feet a bit more stationary and looking for big time
power punches instead of volume over time, like you saw
in the Tire and Woodley one fight. Even though there
wasn't a ton of volume, he still out threw the
frozen one. The same things that got him into trouble
in Tommy Fury fight. Didn't throw enough, he didn't have
enough volume. I wonder if we're ever gonna get back

(58:45):
to a more volume heavy finding openings through offense and
not sitting encountering or looking for one or two big shots.
This is Julio Sayser Chavez Junior getting ready for Jake.
Let's see what he looks like, man, because it'd be
easy to just go okay, Jake's gonna walk through jobs,
and that may be what happens. But things that you
want to look at for a Jake opponent is how

(59:05):
do you the blueprint is out there, how do you
beat Jake? You overwhelm him with volume, You stifle his
jab you stifle his punches, and you fight him inside
of pocket range. You don't fight him at the distance
where he likes to operate, which is out of range
to end. You fight him by jabbing your way and
sticking in range with him. Combination punch.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
Excuse me, I don't look like an old man's.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Hold on a second now. I'm not worried about the
sound of the punches. I'm not worried about the power
of the punches. I'm worried. I'm looking at the effortless
nature of these punches and the speed of his hands.
Not that he's trying to look fast, but I'm just
I'm looking at the intensity behind the shots. Good shot,
good twist, hide the chin again. A technical fighter at

(01:00:09):
one sixty, not a guy that would put your lights out.
He has gained weight and I know he's thirty nine.
Who I'm gonna tell you something, mam. This is a
little surprising. I'm sorry. I'm not even trying to do
the no here goes way trying to hype up a
bad opponent. I first off, I don't do that. Secondly,

(01:00:31):
this is different then I've seen him, and we have
seen him in a long time. I don't know if
Chavez Junior can can gain back the years of substance
abuse in time off from the sport, I don't know.
I don't know if if that outweighs the years prior
where he was somewhat committed to the sport, even if
it wasn't at the highest level, even if he took
short cuts. He may take a short cut in this fight.
He may find it more difficult than he imagined, which

(01:00:53):
is a lot of people do when they get in
there with Jake and look for a way out that
could easily happen. It's happened before with Javaz You. But
no one is really ever said when talking about Chivis
Junior when he gets to a fight that he's a
massive quitter. Right, he has done that before, but they've
the story has been he just hasn't really put any
effort into training, right, He hasn't really ever committed himself
to training. But in the fight he goes out and tried,

(01:01:15):
but it's a half assed, sloppy effort because the work
wasn't put in there in training and listen, it's easy
to get fooled by this pad work. When I watched
him fight your Ryah Hall, orm about ten feet away
and he didn't have anything, he did have a single
thing for your Riyah that night. He couldn't hurt him.
I don't know if he was even trying to. I
don't know what that was, but it was a sparring
session between him and your Ryah Hall. It wasn't fun

(01:01:35):
to watch. It wasn't a good fight. I thought your
Rayah won to be honestly, But if we see some
intensity like this, we're gonna have a fight Paul literally
Chavez's last shot, by the way, if he has anything
left at all in the sport, it's got to start
and really finish with the Jake Paul fight. The real

(01:02:01):
question is, to me, the mindset of Chavez when all
these cameras aren't around, when no one's there with their
phone filming, is he is motivated to come in and work.
I don't have any question that Chavez Junior can box.
I want to know what his mental toughness looks like.
I want to know how he prepared. Is he ready

(01:02:22):
for ten rounds? But yeah, he's got clean bag work man.
That jab is nasty, son. I like the off speed
timing of it too, right in between bounce back. Who
I just don't like the circling to his left constantly,

(01:02:42):
you know, on his jack, just walking into Jake's right hand,
constantly stepping off every time there we go. But that
fading to his left off the jab, you see that,
that's just inviting that overhand. Jake gets underneath the jab
and here comes the overhand. Is your sliding into it?
It's it's it's a great jab. He's got snapped to it.

(01:03:03):
But I just think that that again, you can get
a little casual if you don't think Jake is on
the level you are. You can get a little casual
and get a little uh loose with what you know
you probably shouldn't be doing. If you think Jake can't
capitalize on I'm just gonna sting him with this jab
and he's not gonna do anything about until he does.
And regardless of the fact that that Chavez lost to Anderson, Silva.
I think we would be idiots if we didn't acknowledge

(01:03:24):
that this was the highest level technical boxer Jake has
ever faced. Regardless of who he lost to, He's a
better technical boxer than Anderson. Silva is like, all, this
looks this is fine, this is good stuff. He really
wants to to throw that power to the body too.

(01:03:46):
Not to say this is like a big tell for anything, Dude,
Chavez's eyes are crazy, Dude, He's literally got like crackhead eyes.
Though He's just like not that this is like their
like strategy or anything, even though I used to make
those titles like crazy. But Jivez Junior is clearly put
an an importance on the body work in every single
MIT session everything. Maybe that's just the way they like
to do mits, or it could be they see Jake

(01:04:07):
as a fat, out of shape cruiser weight that if
they get to his body, he will slow down and
even over those ten rounds, Jake can be overwhelmed. Interesting strategy,
one that people haven't really taken advantage of. No one's
really gone heavy to Jake's body, because when you go
to the body heavy, you open yourself up for big
time countershots over the top. A little bit of a
risky game plan, but be interesting to see because Jake

(01:04:28):
has gone ten a couple different times now. It's not
that he can't, but he will slow down in point,
and no one's really gone to his body a ton
to reap the benefits later on upstairs in the fight,
I'll be surprised that we see a lot of body
work from Jabez Unior, at least attempted. See I don't
even like, I don't know. This right hand is a
little bit scary to me. He's pull right hands. He's

(01:04:49):
throwing with his lead hand kind of right by his waist.
I've seen too many guys throw pull right hands thinking
they're gonna pull off a jab and bring the right hand,
but the other guy throws a jab in right hand
with it, and they might pull on the jab, but
the right hand coming behind it cracks them dead in
the jaw right Like if he's pulling on her right
hand and coming over the top there and again that

(01:05:13):
lead hand is down by his waist, that right hand
from Jake, if they both are throwing jab right hands,
or if you're throwing the pull right and Jake's throwing
the jab right hand he's gonna kill you with the
right hand. Dude. Okay, you pulled on the jab, Now
come and eat this right hand behind it. Yeah, you're
throwing to the mitt here, but look where you end
up right back on the center line. Has the right
hand potentially comes across every time? Yeah, I don't know, man,

(01:05:43):
you don't like that. I like the work to the body.
I'm not mad at that, but I don't know. Like,
the one weapon that Jake can change the fight with
every single fight is his overhand. That's his bread and
And you either got to believe in your chin like
there's no tomorrow, or you gotta have combinations that you

(01:06:04):
throw starting with your jab and hiding your chin. Don't
put you back on center line for him to throw
that thing down the pipe or over the top. But anyway,
that is some of the training footage we see on
Chavez Junior. Again, I think that just from watching that,
if I were to pull like a secret weapon out
of this, it's that Chavez Junior wants to get to
Jake's body, right. I don't think this is just padwork
for padwork's sake. I think that they look at Jake

(01:06:27):
as a guy that's you know he's been ten rounds,
but he does slow down, maybe a little heavy for
Cruiser way to at least, you know, not as in
shape as he could be, and looking to work to
the body first, to break him down into those later
rounds and try to come upstairs. I think that's something
that definitely could be a factor in the fight if
if Jake isn't able to get off shots earlier to
land big shots and maybe tires himself out a little bit,

(01:06:48):
you go to his body, the hands come down further,
the gas tank starts to slow, and then all of
a sudden, the guy that was already a better volume
puncher by far, a guy that already was someone that
had experience going late into championship rounds in the prime
of his career, starts to take over the fight. That's
what they're looking to do. In my opinion, that's what
I see out of this video. But seeing Chavez Junior
do it on the mitt, seeing him do it on
the heavy bag is not seeing him do it in

(01:07:10):
the ring, And quite frankly, I have not seen him
do it in the ring in a very very long time,
even against the likes of Anderson Silva. And you're Yahull,
who should not hold a candle to him in the
boxing rooms. No matter how much I think he can
be technically better than Jake, no matter how much I
think he could be technically the best boxer Jake has faced,
I still think Jake Paul wins this fight as of
right now. That's what I think. I don't know if

(01:07:31):
it's just about commitment or if it's about time that's
been gone for Chavez Junior. Time he can't get back,
time he wasted outside of the sport and his time
in the sport. But more so than that, I think
that the mental part of this fight at some point
will be too much for Chibz. It always has been
his achilles heel. I think it'll be again combined with
the time off, combined with the weight, combined with his aid.

(01:07:51):
But that's just my thoughts. I do think there's an
interesting strategy here. I think Chives Junior's looking great compared
to what you would think at this point in his career.
Just don't think it will be enough, you guys. Let
me know. In the Elliot Suporia has just taken over
the entire promotion of the UFC and quite frankly, the
entire sport of MMA. UFC fans, you have your next
big superstar and his name is El Matador. He just

(01:08:15):
knocked out Charles Olivera. That's right, du Bronx in the
first round of his introduction to one hundred and fifty
five pounds, and he is the new lightweight champion of
the World in the UFC. He has now held belt
in two separate weight classes, and he is starting to
make a legacy that is undeniable. Seventeen to zero and

(01:08:35):
no flaws. I mean that specifically in this fight. What
just happened, the breakdown, Let's go so, like I said,
Elliot Tuporia Charles Olivera, this was the fight I think
that everybody was anticipating this week, and it turned out
to be one that actually delivered on the anticipation. Unlike
another fight that happened in direct competition in the boxing
ring on the same night. I'll just say it, Julio

(01:08:56):
Sazer chab As Junior Jake Paul did not deliver anywhere
close to the magnitude to the performance, to the delivery,
to the spectacular nature of the finish, all of it
culminating in Iliot Suporia going absolutely bonkers and doing exactly
what he said he would do. If you guys didn't
see during fight week, it was almost like a foregone
conclusion from Eliot Saporia that he was going to win

(01:09:18):
this fight, a level of confidence that we have not
seen in the UFC in a very very long time,
one that included him walking up to Charles and telling
it it was written. I didn't want it to be you.
I'm sorry it had to be you, but this win
was already written. To then celebrating a victory the night
before it happens, a victory dinner on the night before
the fight. It was almost as if Eliot Tuporia knew

(01:09:40):
what we all thought, but maybe he didn't have the
courage to say because we're not him, we are not
Iliot Saporia. We didn't know that his confidence would exude
and radiate so much energy, but eventually he would have
a spectacular performance like we just saw. So let's talk
about the fight. I told you guys coming into this fight,
and I'll tell you again. The biggest gap I saw
between Elliot support in Charles Lavera was obviously in the

(01:10:02):
striking department, and it was in the pocket the moments
where this fight would get heavy is when Iliot Sapporia
and Charles both decided to engage in the phone booth fight,
and right away from the opening bell this happened, and
funny enough, as the fight started, both of them traded
in the pocket and Charles Olavera was the one that
came out the victor in their first exchange. As soon

(01:10:22):
as the fight started, he clipped Iliot support it with
a right hand that made Ilio back off and rethink
that exchange, and ultimately there was a scramble where Charles
Olavera got double underhooks and in that exchange I'm not
sure if Charles got cut on the eyebrow from something
Ilia hit him with or potentially just you know, finding
grappling position and cut his eyebrow, but he gets cut

(01:10:43):
up above the eyebrow and Ilia ends up flipping position
on him, getting top position on the ground, getting to
mount a crucifix really quickly, passing Charles Olavera, who was
a high level black belt, passing his guard like it
was almost nothing. Charles looked for leg locks, got somewhat
threatening with and Ilia got out of it very calm,
very collected, very poised for this moment, something that again

(01:11:05):
when you watch him fight, is the words you keep
finding in your mind. He fights with such a poise,
such an a welcoming of the moment. No jitters, no,
no butterflies, No, the moment is too big. It reminds
you of another god that was the champion at one
hundred and forty five pounds and then jumped and became
the champion at one hundred and fifty five pounds. I'm
not saying that Iliot Taporia is Connor MacGregor or Connor

(01:11:27):
McGregor is Iliot Taporia, but to not see the parallels there,
I think would be absolutely insane. I'm gonna go out
on the limb and maybe I'm wrong, but you guys
can tell me in the comments. I think from what
I'm seeing from Iliot Saporia right now, his arc without
maybe the flash and the cameras and the Superstar rocket
ship that Connor McGregor built for himself in the UFC

(01:11:47):
strapped to his back, Eliot Saporia's run is better. He
has knocked out two of the three greatest one hundred
and forty five pound fighters ever in the two fights
previous to this, one, and then he comes into one
hundred and fifty and knocks Charles Olivera out, another former
world champion in the weight class he was stepping into.
That three fight run is one of the better ones

(01:12:09):
maybe I've ever seen, and it wasn't against just supplementary talent.
These were top line fighters, best of the best. The
only person missing from that equation and may not be
missing for very long is Islam Makachev. Keep an eye
on that in the future. But anyway, so they get
to their feet in Ilia and Charles Lavera. They have
another clinch, kind of close quarters phone booth fight, and

(01:12:30):
Ilia gets off a nice jab to the body, stabs him,
jab upstairs stabs him and he enters in with a
combination and Charles gets to a Muay Thai clinch, tries
to throw the knee up the middle. Ilia is wary
to it, shucks off the plumb grip, gets back to
his base, starts to get back to what he likes
to do, which is enter in with his jab, and
Charles not using those weapons that I think he desperately

(01:12:50):
needed to in this fight, that teep kick to keep
distance right, the ability to push kick to the stomach
or stab at the knee or oblique kick or inside
like kick. Things to get Ilia off that front foot
and start to engage at a higher distance where he's
less susceptible to combination punching and he's more safe to
throw his outside game as well. And with that being said,
Ilia stabs him to the body again, stabs him with

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the jab upstairs steps in. Charles tries to meet him
with a straight right hand, the same one that he
landed to start the fight and had success with, but
this time Ilia had seen it, and instead of engaging
and trying to go right hand for right hand, he
takes his lead hand and just slightly pushes Charles's right
hand off the center line, just slightly pushes it off
path to drop his own right hand. And boy, when

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he drops it, it was like the atomic bomb hit
because he drops this right hand and Charles goes limp immediately,
and just for good measure, Ilia winds up a left
hook behind it. Charles goes flat on his back and
Ilia follows up two hammer fist and it's all over.
And when the first round, just like Ilia Tuporia told
us and told Charles and clearly told himself, his self, belief,

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his ability inside of the octagon, his poison, and quite frankly,
just how good he is took over in the world
took notice tonight. The UFC created their biggest newest star.
It's insane to watch him perform at this level and
think where is his ceiling because it wasn't at forty five.
At fifty five, he just took out one of the

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biggest names, Islam moved to seventy. Sure, there's matchups there
and they're going to make the next matchup whatever that is,
which we'll get to in a second. But it's just
he doesn't feel like a real person. So the question
becomes who who is gonna be there? Who is going
to stand in front of Ilia Taporia and say it's
my turn as well. You may have this moment, but
now it's my turn too, that rising star to combat

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another superstar rising. And we may have gotten that answer
in the octagon as Patty Pimliss stepped in and I
don't know who arranged it, but he stepped right in
to talk to Ilia Taporia and say congratulations, but you're
not knocking me out. I'm different from all these guys
mine and they have a great back and forth, and
to PORI is saying, I'm gonna put my balls on

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your forehead and I'm gonna do all this and do that.
It was perfect. It felt like such a good piece
of business that the UFC was doing to give Patty
Pimblet his shot at that belt, to make a fight
that already has an ingrained hwed between two guys that
just don't like each other over the belt, over competition.
Finally we get to see them fight, and there's even

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a shove from Ilia to get Patty out of his face, like,
get the fuck out of my face, dude, I'm the champ,
You're in my octagon and I'm holding my two belts.
And I thought, this was again, just a brilliant piece
of business from the UFC. It makes sense. But then
I heard Dana White say this in the post fight
presser about how much he enjoyed that face to face.

Speaker 6 (01:15:43):
Well, I don't know who the hell let him in there.
That should have never happened. Let's start there. I was
already back in my room or that would have never happened.
But that's not the fight. It's just, yeah, it was fun.
It shouldn't happen it was fun to watch. Wow, that's
not really what we do. I'll give a shit it
was fun to watch or not, It's just that that
shouldn't happen. Plus, he just he wins a second a

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second title and in a higher division, which it was
a bad call by whoever the hell let them let
him in there.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
I'm going to Dana White is upset that Patty Pimlet
faced off with Iliot Tuporia. He's upset that he could
have potentially put together one of the best fights you
can make right now one fifty five. Why that's that's
that is exactly what you want. That's the rivalry you need.
This is a sport of mma where yes, star building
is super important. And maybe Patty Pimlet is not the

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greatest matchup because of his strength, because of his size,
because of his grappling ability. Tough fights make superstars and
a loss isn't the end of the world. And I
know you don't want to you don't want to kill
the Golden Goose because Taporia right now is on a
on a heater, He's on a hot streak. And when
I thought about it more, I knew that the reason
Dana White would not like this fight. The reason Dana
White would not like that face off, that's not, in

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his words, how they do things, even though I've seen
many a face offs in the octagon. In fact, I
saw one earlier in the night with Van and Pantosia.
The reason he did not like that face off is
because it's not what Dana wants and that to me
just doesn't make sense. Let'ten get it. I know that
Justin Gaichee is a matchup that favors a striking battle
that Eliot Teporia will most likely win. I mean, listen,

(01:17:14):
I know MMA Matt doesn't always work, but Max Holloway
flat lines Justin Gaichee in their fight, then Eliot Teporia
flat lines Max Holloway. What do we expect to happen
when Eliot Teporia gets in there with the guy in
Gaichie who can be hit, he can be hurt, he
can be stopped, and he wants to strike. And also
if he wrestles to Poria is probably better there as well.

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I think we know the conclusion of that matchup. I'm
not gonna say it's not a good fight or whatever,
but the matchup that I would personally want to see,
especially after that face off, and the one that I
think holds more parody than Ilia and Justin Gaichie is
Ilia and Patty the Battie. Both of them have their
own separate fan bases. Both of them do not like
each other. They've had run ins in the past. The
fight's been building for years. Why not. You can say

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it's too early, but at that point, is it not
just the same problem that everybody has with the Marcus
of Queensberry and the sport of boxing. That's the same
problem we've had for years with them. We don't get
the fights we want when we want them, and instead
they fall by the wayside and we all sit there
on our hands and say, well, we wish we would
have got them when they were in their prime. I
just think that's the fight to make, and Dana's upset
about it because I think Dana wants Elia Tuporia and

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Justin Gagee. I'm hoping this moment forced his hand. I'm
hoping that the people loved it enough to say get
you know, let's do it. I really do. I just
don't know if that's the case. But regardless, in any
form or fashion, Elio Tuporia is on the verge of
becoming a global MMA superstar. He is becoming what this
sport has needed in the last I would say two

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to three years without Alex Pereira's.

Speaker 4 (01:18:40):
Name being invoked.

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
This man can speak great English, he is well dressed,
he's got a great look. He is a crunch time player,
meaning he steps up on every big stage and delivers
in the most emphatic fashion and when he's done, it's
onto the next one. Business as usual. If the UFC
does not trapped the rocket ship to his back, whether
it's with Gae Chee which whatever, or it's with Patty

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the Batty, and they make an ingrained rivalry to just
build his legacy further potentially or to make Patty to
Batty that next big thing. They need to understand they
have a burgeoning superstar on their hands and if they
don't take advantage of it now, I don't know what
else they need to know. Eliot Teporia is the real
deal and he's going to be for a very long
time undefeated and undisputed lightweight champion of the world. In

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a demolishing a demolition job of Charles olivera who you
know has been around in the sport for a very
long time, not sure where he goes from here. Obviously
didn't have his best performance. Wasn't his night? And yes,
some of it was about Charles, his stubbornness, his inability
to keep the fight at distance, but more of it
was about Ilio Taporia and his just greatness. What happens
next for him? Charles for the UFC, I don't have

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those answers. I know one thing, it's almost impossible to
mess this up because Ilio Taporia is just that damn good.
What happens for him next? I guess we'll find out. Folks,
we're back on the way concept presented by The Ring magazine.
And I am sitting next to the show stop the

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King of New York. What half of your main event?
July twelfth and Louis Armstrong Stadium. It's Edgar Belonga.

Speaker 4 (01:20:17):
What's up?

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
I'm man chilling bro Hey. First off, you didn't have
to wear more, you didn't have to have so much ice.
I don't know if it was Edgar Berloga or a freezer.
I was talking to this man guy ice. Dude, you're
wearing your my condo on your neck. What we're doing here?

Speaker 4 (01:20:32):
You just had a stunt on me, like, man, you
know this is my image. You know there's I grew up,
you know, loving, you know, looking good. You know what
I'm saying. I always I always feel I look good.
I feel good. You know I could do the things
I want good?

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
So you think I could pull it off or now
I don't. You know I can pull the chain off.
Maybe one maybe, just one little video you can you.

Speaker 4 (01:20:56):
Can pull it on, okay, But then you're gonna go
from being like like you look like you probably like
do movies and ship okay, to like a guy that
I'm gonna get a squre.

Speaker 1 (01:21:04):
I'm gonna get a square off here. You know what
I'm saying, have a nice and.

Speaker 4 (01:21:07):
Put the part yeah, change on that. You're gonna really
like a New Yorker.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
I got a bunch of friends that are that live
up in this area.

Speaker 4 (01:21:14):
Puerto Rican?

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
Uh for you, how important is it to put her
on for not just the city of New York, but
for Puerto Rican heritage, for for everything that that matters
most to you.

Speaker 4 (01:21:25):
Is everything that's what's you know, I'm not going in
there by myself, you know, I'm going in there with
my team, with my family. For Puerto Rico. There's a
lot of Puerto Ricans on the island that's with me,
you know, And I'm going in there with them my
ancests you know, from from the eighteen hundreds. You know
what I'm saying, That those people are going in and
that ring with me. You know, I think that now.

(01:21:46):
I keep saying, I know that I'm destined for something great.
And Hams is just in a way, you know what
I'm saying. So we can't overlook them. I can't look
what's behind them. And you know, that's the kind of
rematch and this and there's a lot of things that's
lined up for us that could happen, you know, But
right now we got to focus on him, you know,

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because if we don't get through him, everything goes out
the window.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
A lot of you said, a lot of people in
your corner, and before we got on camera, you said,
I gotta perform.

Speaker 4 (01:22:18):
Yeah, I got to I'm home and my home. One
thing about New York is bro They love a fight,
and they love grit, and they love when you put
your balls on the table and get it, you know
what I'm saying. And there, listen, New York is a
place where if they love you. They love you, but

(01:22:40):
if they don't like you, they'll ship on you. You
see with the Knicks, they start doing paraise and everything before.

Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
Yeah, yeah, the little premature.

Speaker 4 (01:22:47):
Yeah, they go crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:22:49):
Bro, can't be doing that. You got the Celtics winning
last night. Y'all thought the series is over.

Speaker 4 (01:22:53):
It ain't over yet, but they feel like it's a
victory because you know, the Knicks always been in the dump.
So it's like when they get this all, I was.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
Like, so are we back by the way or the
Knicks back?

Speaker 4 (01:23:03):
I hope they are. You know what I'm saying. I
want them to win. They from New York. You know,
I'm not like a big, big, big basketball fan, but
you know I've wrapped New York. You know, you big
like baseball, football now everything. You know. Jets, Giants, Okay, okay,
I love Jase, you know what I'm saying. But Giants
is my friend. Yankees. You know I love the Yankees.
I love the Mets. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:23:24):
There's a lot of you gonna love the Yankees and
the Mets, though, you gotta love I'm from New York
that I didn't know if that's the one thing about
me is that if I get loved from if you
get loved from both places, you got you gotta reciprocate. Yeah,
you gotta reciprocate.

Speaker 4 (01:23:36):
So I gotta be equal, you know what I'm saying.
I gotta be in the middle and just you know,
love both.

Speaker 1 (01:23:39):
So the Nets too, obviously Brooklyn, the Brooklyn Nets.

Speaker 4 (01:23:44):
Yeah, but they're not.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
That's gotta be your squad.

Speaker 4 (01:23:46):
Yeah, but they just I don't know. I feel like
for me, they like know still expansion team.

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
Yeah, they Gottax used to be Jersey bound. They moved
up here now claiming Brooklyn like that.

Speaker 4 (01:23:56):
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
I can't. I can't come up here and claim Brooklyn
if I just move up right. I'm from the South.
I'm from Tennessee, so we can't.

Speaker 4 (01:24:02):
Just you gotta go through me.

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
I gotta check in. I check it. My father didn't
know I had to check in. That's cool. Uh So, Yeah,
talk to me about Hamza.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:24:11):
We just did the face off, we did the press conference.
You've been in front of him all day. What's the energy, man?
What are you feeling from him?

Speaker 4 (01:24:17):
Fight? You know what I'm saying. I was trying to
go go away for nine weeks going the hibernation mode.

Speaker 1 (01:24:22):
Because he thinks you're crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:24:23):
By the way, you can tell I don't go fuck
what he thinks. You know what I'm saying, I am
crazy a little better.

Speaker 1 (01:24:29):
You gotta be crazy in this game.

Speaker 4 (01:24:31):
You gotta be Look at the legends, every legend. Look
at Fluent Medweather, Look at Connor McGregor, look at Michael
Jordan's look at Kobe Bryant like Tyson, Look at Mike Tyson,
look at Muhamad al La. These guys are crazy. People
thought they were psycho. But you can't be a normal
guy and try to be You can't be normal and
then think you're going to be a legend. Ain't no way, bro,

(01:24:53):
being like that quiet, you ain't gonna be you. Ain't.
You gotta be a little crazy. Roberto Durant, You gotta
be crazy, bro, you know what I'm saying. Who else
is Travis? You gotta be crazy. These guys is crazy,
you know, So you gotta be a little crazy to
get to that level. I don't think if you're normal
you won't get there. You gotta be a little bit
crazy to get up there. Because when you're crazy, you
want to do you want to, you know, try new

(01:25:15):
things and in the ring. You know what I'm saying,
if you a certain way, you're not you're going to
be scared to take that, to take that leap of
faith and say, you know what, let me try this,
let me try this. I'm gonna be in the gym, yo, Mark,
I want to go twenty five rounds and sparing today.
You know what I'm saying like that, Like that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
You just told me too before we're going to camera, Like, bro,
I'm about to go train right now. Yeah, today got
you today? Got you hyped up?

Speaker 4 (01:25:36):
Or you just yesterday? As soon as I got here,
I landed, my flag got delayed. I got you by
the way, what's going on?

Speaker 1 (01:25:42):
Like why do you get it together?

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:25:43):
They tripping. I came from Tampa. So when I got here,
I landed like at ten, I called my strength conditioning coach.
I'm like, yo, I'm here, like I'm getting to the hotel.
I'm dropping my shit off, I'm grabbing my back and
were going straight to the gym. We was in the
gym to like almost.

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
Can tell man, the guns popping out. I didn't know
those was Regis stay to New York you know what
I mean. You gotta get those things checked out, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:26:03):
But I came back in the morning eight. I got
up at nine in the morning here with y'all doing
all of this. After I'm done, I'm going right back
to train.

Speaker 1 (01:26:12):
Just locked in.

Speaker 4 (01:26:12):
They said, Bro, at the end of the day, man, like,
you know, all the talk and everything we're doing is
you know, it's cool, But you know when it's all
saiding done Njully twelve, when me and him is in
that ring, it's only me and him.

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
Yeah, I like that though. I like the talk because
I want it to me. It shows you're confident. And
two I kind of talked to you about this earlier.
You put pressure on yourself. Can't really anybody else say
shit to you. You know what I'm saying, Like, if
you put it like I'm this, this is what I'm
gonna go do. That pressure has already been put on
you by you. So whatever they say they say, it
don't matter because you already got put it on me.

(01:26:44):
Go ahead say whatever it is. There's nobody that says,
yeah exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:26:47):
Is everything that's mental is as long as you get here,
just controls your body, your mind, controls your body. Whatever
you tell yourself you want to do it, You're gonna
do it. You know what I'm saying. If I want
to run through this wall, right, No, I'm serious, Right,
I'm serious. If I want to run through that wall
right now. By the way, as Mark always told me,

(01:27:08):
if you want to go through something, you put your manto.
You're gonna do it. Like the like you see like
the riots right the right, you see the rights when
they start digging holes.

Speaker 1 (01:27:16):
Okay, Like I'm from the project problem out here in
New York.

Speaker 4 (01:27:19):
Right from the projects is that I used to have
a lot of riots.

Speaker 1 (01:27:23):
But we shoot them where I come from. We take
the gun out and just line.

Speaker 4 (01:27:27):
We chased them with fucking with bats and and then
te and off my rat trying to get them out.
But like when we was younger. But you know, a
rat what it does. It keeps scratching and keep scratching
until it until it gets the hole and down was
inside the house. Right, So it's the same way with us.
Whatever we put the manto, we're gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:47):
So when it comes to this fight, you know, like
I said, I saw this energy between you and and Shias.
Something you pointed out and I thought was interesting. You
were like to me, your Canelo, like you're the best person,
even if you already went to twelve with hell, you're
the best person I've ever faced because you're the next
guy face, and you felt like he didn't have that
same energy for you at all.

Speaker 4 (01:28:06):
That's how I know I beat him already. I already
beat him, already beat him mentally.

Speaker 1 (01:28:10):
You just alay, he's checked like he's trying to overlook you.
Already the next thing.

Speaker 4 (01:28:15):
Right there, I beat him, I start talking. I just
beat you. You don't even know. I just beat you, bro,
because I'm looking at you like Canelo, I'm going away
for camp Nigga, like I'm not part of my word.
Now we're not going on. I'm not going back on.
I'm going away like he's my Canolo. You know what
I'm saying. He's once I get him out the way,
it's like, no, yo, Turkey, let's sit down. You know

(01:28:38):
what I'm saying. Let's talk, man.

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
What you said, what you say to if you said
Turkey was what he said.

Speaker 4 (01:28:41):
Turkey's is poppy. You know that's his poppy right there.
He gotta checking him like this, walking like hey, hey,
don't talk. When I talk, don't say nothing. When I
tell you to move.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
You move.

Speaker 4 (01:28:51):
So he's doing that, That's what I'm saying. He don't
want to be in New York, like he's going to
be fighting in New York. Come on, He's just doing
this because they puting the pressure. I'm like, Yo, you
gotta take this fight because if not, you're not gonna
get the condicle fight, you know what I'm saying. So
he's like, fuck, I'm gonna take the fight.

Speaker 1 (01:29:04):
But but you think about it, like the way you
talk about how Turkey looks at him, that says a
lot for our Turkey looks at you that he wants
shres to come over here in your backyard and take
this kind of challenge of this first fight at one
sixty year. That's a big deal.

Speaker 2 (01:29:18):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:29:18):
Yeah, maybe maybe Turkey's understanding me. I think Turkey, I
think you're unestimated just a little bit, okay, and it's
maybe you know, it's boxing, So I don't take nothing personal.

Speaker 1 (01:29:29):
Should light a fire too.

Speaker 4 (01:29:30):
It likes a fire because then after that we're gonna
sit down with you. We sit down like this, man,
you we have some dinner.

Speaker 1 (01:29:36):
Just kick me out, Turkey, you can see here and we, you.

Speaker 4 (01:29:38):
Know, talk real money. They talk real money.

Speaker 1 (01:29:41):
They you know, I ain't pocket watching you look like
you got it right?

Speaker 4 (01:29:45):
No, no, no, they could buy this right here, A
million of these, A million of these, they could buy
a million times.

Speaker 1 (01:29:52):
So you got to respect you know, one hundred percent.

Speaker 4 (01:29:55):
The money is different, you know now.

Speaker 1 (01:29:58):
Speaking of the money being different, one hundred k bed huh?
I watched to go down the handshake made it official? Well,
I don't know if it's official official, but we're gonna
honor it. You think they're gonna honor it?

Speaker 4 (01:30:07):
Oh? Yeah, yeah, I already spoke to this guy. Okay
he said, yeah, so one hundred k on the line, Does.

Speaker 1 (01:30:12):
That make it a little more sweet for you?

Speaker 2 (01:30:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:30:14):
Hell yeah, I guess we're going You never did no
shit like that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:19):
I was gonna say. You kind of stuck it on him,
and it was like, do we have to look around
and say, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:30:24):
I do ship like that. Okay, you don't even know
I do.

Speaker 1 (01:30:28):
I don't do it, so I don't do like life.

Speaker 4 (01:30:31):
That's why I'm comfortable. He an't tell me that's better
I was doing. That's what I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:30:34):
Yeah, you know the type of ship I do. I
lose like five hundred at the casino. That's the ship
I'm on, and I don't go back. That's mine. Let's
go when you're doing one hundred K.

Speaker 4 (01:30:44):
I know. But now I did more than that on myself,
like my whole basically my whole life. I better on myself,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
But like, but that's that's why you are in the
position you're in, I think, And that's why you're going
to the place you're going. You saw about risk, you
talked about being a little crazy. It's honestly just you
saying yes to every challenge in front of you.

Speaker 2 (01:31:05):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:31:05):
I respect the hell out of it.

Speaker 4 (01:31:06):
And I want to fight the best. I'm not with
her pigging nobody. I want to fight the best.

Speaker 1 (01:31:10):
That's that's what.

Speaker 4 (01:31:12):
I want to make. And I want to make the
biggest fights happen. Yes, where there's a lot of fans
and you know people can enjoy it. That's all the box.
And you know what I'm saying. People were about they own,
People were about a lot of different things. Man, It's
about giving the fans a great fight.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:31:28):
Look at me and Canello. Nobody don't talk about they
talk about. What they talk about is Yo, you you
are kind of man. Y'all need to do a rematch.

Speaker 12 (01:31:34):
Bro?

Speaker 4 (01:31:35):
Why Bro? In that arena, everybody was on their their feet.

Speaker 1 (01:31:40):
When I tell you, I was in Vegas at night.

Speaker 4 (01:31:41):
I remember, you know, everybody in arena was on their feet.
That's why it went from booze to after the twelve round,
I was leaving. I felt like a fucking superstar.

Speaker 1 (01:31:51):
Respect you earned screaming so much.

Speaker 4 (01:31:53):
I was walking. I was walking through the through the
through the MGM to go to go out to dinner
at like a little din and I was in the
I'm Jim Bro. I had a mob of Mexican bro
mothering me, Bro's pictures, telling me I'm a legend, telling
thank you, like the Bro. They don't remember, they're not
remembering all you lost sign they remember Yo, you were't
kind of thought a fucking amazing fight, Bro, just like

(01:32:15):
the Godian Ward. No, I don't. I never spoke about
Yo who won that fight. I just look at the
fight that I was a fucking wall. Those three fights.
That's what they talk about, don't. They don't talk about
all but but but Ward one. No, they talk about Yo.
They went at it, and that's what boxing is about.

Speaker 1 (01:32:32):
What's your relationship now? Like with Canelo, I'm interested because
it felt like there was a lot of respect between
you two after the fight, and then I saw you
kind of gone off on him on Twitter. What what's
it like right now? How do you look at him?
It's back up?

Speaker 4 (01:32:46):
No respect? Why because I gave you too much? I
gave you so much respect after the fight. You know
what I'm saying. I tell you you changed my life.
Thank you, yeah, you know, thank you for the opportunity
like I and then you went on on and you
did it interview and you you you set out ran
you crazy. I'm trying to survive. And it's so funny
that he's saying that the whole fight week and then

(01:33:09):
he fights again. He fights a guy that's really trying
to survive, and it's like then you see him complaining
like to score, like yo, bro, come on man, fight man.
So it's like, who was really trying to survive? You
know what I'm saying? And you know me, I'm a
guy that you try to trow me, and you try to,
you know, make fun of me. I'm gonna trow you
right back.

Speaker 1 (01:33:25):
So that one's it's back up now.

Speaker 4 (01:33:27):
Hell yeah, and now it's personal to him. Me and
him is personal, but I gotta get I gotta get
my ship back. Of course.

Speaker 1 (01:33:34):
Now when it comes to fighting in general, I've always
had this question ready for you because I feel like
you're a guy that gets down outside of the ring too.

Speaker 4 (01:33:42):
You've been in a street fights, man, when I was younger.

Speaker 1 (01:33:44):
Yeah, any any any like crazy one that you care
to not you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:33:49):
Trying to not not not no, not crazy, but because
I'm not gonna lie. Man, Like a lot of people
love me, you know, and I knew how to fight.
My mom was boxing. I was six years old, so
you know, when I was younger, my dad went away
from prison, you know, in the project and stuff. I
had a I was imagine me, light skinned like you,
no facial hair, pretty boy. You know. These guys was

(01:34:11):
bad little kids, you know what I'm saying. They was
breaking car windows, robbing cars, you know what I'm saying,
working with bats and stuff, you know, and it was
getting It used to get crazy, you know. And I
used to want to be outside. I'm a kid. I
want to hang out. And I used to go outside,
and I had to prove myself, you know what I'm saying.
I had to get my respects. So I used to
have to beat people up, you know what I'm saying,
to be like yo, and I was like yo, let's

(01:34:33):
get it. Boom boom like that. And then after that,
just in my project was used to be like yo.
I used to call me your yog you know what
I'm saying. Out of school. Coming out of school was
like a fight boom. And then I got my respect.

Speaker 1 (01:34:48):
Say, it got to a point where everybody learned not
to mess with you.

Speaker 4 (01:34:50):
Yeah. And then also too, you know, me going to
the gym, so I stood of. I stood of. It
happened a lot when when my father went to prison,
because like I used to skip school. I used to
try to skip school and also skip the gym. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:35:02):
They're like, you know, be outside, yeah, you know, so
everybody else is.

Speaker 4 (01:35:06):
And you know that's what like drew me into like
wanting to be in the streets and fight, you know
what I'm saying. And one time my dad, like my
sister like was fighting with this this young kid like
grabbing my sister by the hair and like my dad
was like, yo. My dad told me like, yo, look
we did tell your sister. I look went up to him. Boom,

(01:35:27):
knocked him out. One shot knocked them out.

Speaker 2 (01:35:29):
Boom.

Speaker 4 (01:35:30):
Yeah, he like grabbed my sister by the hair. That
was playing again. It was over. You know, my my
my step brother was way older than he was in
the school together. I used to be like they used
to be like yo. Like one time it was in
like I was in the class, but my step brother
was he was older than me. It was my ex
step brother was older than me, and I was like
I used to protect him, like they came to my
class that yo, these two kids are being was being

(01:35:52):
the ship out of yo. Yo. I was with there
was like it was in the bathroom. Actually, teacher, I
go to the bathroom. There you go, you know, yeah,
I go to the bathroom. They're still there. Demolished them
in the bathroom, got being both of them got suspended
trying to expel me out the school.

Speaker 1 (01:36:10):
You know, so you've been you've been in them streets, listen.
I grew up very sheltered. Thank you to my mom
and dad. Shelter homes, sheltered country boys, shelter.

Speaker 4 (01:36:21):
I seen like six years old, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:36:23):
Seeing shoot out, shelter homes different. I was like, well, sorry,
completely different my shelter, your sheltered different.

Speaker 4 (01:36:29):
You know, It's that brought wake up and you had
you had fucking car windows and the Bronx hit car windows,
splashing bops and I get up. It was in the Sheldon.
I was in the Hunts Point. Get up. I was
climb on top of the where the sinkers that it
was a window and I was just I was just
staying at the whole shootout. It was just shooting back
and forth. My mom grabbed me crying, get get on.

(01:36:49):
You know, it was like level. It was almost on
the floor, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, on the
street floor.

Speaker 1 (01:36:53):
By the way, the way you're talking about this is
like it's just nothing, which is crazy to me because
I be petrified for the rest of my life.

Speaker 4 (01:37:02):
It's like a shape you this what shaped you. It
made me humble too. It made me humble because it
made me you know, respect, you know a lot of
things because you know that life is not cool. You know,
I don't condone it, so me seeing that, like and
then you know, my dad going to prison and leaving
and coming back and leaving again, going to prison. I
just I just had a different type of respect, you

(01:37:22):
know what I'm saying, for for people that you know
that's in their life. And then I try to like,
you know, talk to these young guys now you know
what I'm saying, and telling them to listen, Bro, you
can't be doing that, you know what I'm saying. You
got to do this the right way, you know. And
a lot of people like drawn to me because they
see me and know I'm a positive guy. You know,
I'm not a sucker. But I'm also because for you

(01:37:43):
to do good in life, you don't got to be
a sucker, you know what I'm saying. A lot I
feel like a lot of people feel like that, Like
for you to be a good person and do good
in life, whether you got a career or whether you're
working or off, they feel like it's a sucker. Now,
that's not a as a room man, you know what
I'm saying. That's a real man. Is a guy to
take care his family, take care his moms, take cares,
you know what I'm saying, take his his kids. You know,
that's a real man. Love that, you know, being in

(01:38:04):
the streets and acting like a bad boy. Now it's
not cool, you know, Well, now.

Speaker 1 (01:38:09):
You're doing this to take care of your family. Give
me one last down the lens. Prediction July twelfth, you
step in that ring across from you is I'm just
sure the bell rings. What happens? Tell the people? So
here he is man edgar Verlanga. Once again, he's won

(01:38:31):
half of your main events. Stay tuned July twelfth from
the Louis Armstrong Stadium. Thanks to the ring, it's the
way concept. What happens then? I don't have those answers,
but I guess we'll find out

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