Nick Wright recaps Week 11 of the NFL season, starting with Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce, and the Kansas City Chiefs being upset by Bo Nix's Denver Broncos and the threat of KC missing the playoffs. Then, Nick reacts to another underwhelming Philadelphia Eagles win over the Detroit Lions and breaks down Shedeur Sanders’ NFL debut in the Cleveland Browns' loss to Lamar Jackson's Baltimore Ravens. After, Nick discusses what version of Josh Allen the Buffalo Bills need to make it to the Super Bowl, and if it’s time to panic for Baker Mayfield's Tampa Bay Buccaneers after their second-straight loss. Later, Nick answers your questions. #Volume
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Welcome in What's Driving the Great Episode three ninety three,
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A ton to do today as I am covered in
shame and losing bets and really a state of unease
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surrounding my hometown, beloved Kansas City Chiefs after a game
that I just never saw coming. And we will get
to that in full. There are a couple quick little
things that I would like to get to before we
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get to that. And here's why I'm obviously I'm not
running from it. I had to deal with it on
TV yesterday. I'm gonna have to deal with it with
Colin and more on TV today, and we're gonna spend
a lot of time on it. Here. The reason that
we're gonna get to these others, small but I think
really important stories just quickly off the top, is actually
because God only knows how long the Chiefs Broncos part
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of the show is gonna take, and I want to
make sure we have time to get to these other things.
But it will. It will be given its full accounting
of what happened on Sunday. What that means for the
Chiefs for the rest of the year why they actually
might be in a slightly tougher playoff position as far
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as making the playoffs, then I think people currently understand
and where I was appear to have been wrong about
the Denver Broncos, who I said would go into their
by at six and five, and they go into their
buy on an eight game winning streak at nine and two.
So all of that coming up shortly. First straight voicemail
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presented to you by Boost Mobile. The Cowboys annihilate the
Raiders on Monday Night Football. Yeah, my Raiders are gonna
be the second best team in the AFC West. Take
is just a classic three instantly wrong. They'll always have
Week one of beating the Patriots, which right now registers
as the most bizarre outcome of the NBA SE of
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the NFL season. Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens bench for
the opening drive of that game. It didn't matter. They
were dominant after that. Quinn Williams was great as the
Cowboys get to four five and one, maybe a couple
minutes on this game later and Wimby out weeks with
a calf injury. Huge bummer, and excuse me, you understand
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them being cautious with him. But it also means for
the gamblers out there, if anybody took some long shot
Defensive Player of the Years that weren't obviously Winmby wouldn't
have been a long shot. Those bets are super live
because Wimby is probably gonna be ineligible to win Defensive
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Player of the Year due to not reaching the sixty
five games minimum threshold. So I don't know who you
know what bets people made, but if you made a ah,
kind of a bummer bet, but I don't think Wimby's
gonna play enough games, it was good foresight and I'm
I will you know, the sportsbooks might not have even
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fully adjusted where he might still be a huge favorite,
but he shouldn't be the So yeah, Wimby is now
four to one and Chet is plus one point thirty.
I'm just I think there's probably value on everyone else
in the marketplace because Wimby at four to one, I
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think Wimby probably should be, like, you know, close to
off the board. I just don't think he's gonna hit
the sixty five games, all right, And that's courtesy our
friends at hardrec Bet. Obviously, so quick two quick things
before we get to the Chiefs Broncos, and the first
one is believe it or not, for one of the
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first times in this show's history, we are going to
start with Shadoor Sanders, but we're not actually starting with Shador,
and so that sounds silly, but here's the point I'm making.
So Shoudor came in, he obviously was terrible. He was
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four of sixteen. It's the worst completion percentage by a
guy who threw at least ten passes in four years
in the NFL. It was a game that the Browns
could have been. One would correctly argue what even should
have won with just tip bad quarterback play. Instead, Gabriel
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was terrible, and then Shador came in and was somehow worse,
and they lose and the Ravens escape with a win
they did not really deserve, despite Miles Garrett, who might
get twenty five sacks this year just playing at an
all time level. But the reason I'm starting with Shador
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is because this morning Twitter was down for a bit,
and I think Twitter has I want to make sure
I use the right word warped people's brains and ability
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to discuss Shador Sanders in a way it's such an
What you have and what Twitter has rewarded from content
creators is the most idiotic Shadore Sanders takes being so
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amplified and being so force fed to anyone who has
any type of sports algorithm that you have folks who
know better, or at least should know better, polluting the
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public discourse with just nonsensical misinformation. And so you've got
and it's on. And this is one of the rare
things where it is really a both sides problem. You
have folks who gain traction and get engagement by finding
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anything imaginable to who criticize Shador for up to an
including where he's sitting on the bench during and after
a game, because that gets engagement. And then you have
on the other end of it, folks acting as if
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it takes a grand conspiracy for a fifth round pick,
third string quarterback to not have reps with the starting offense,
when it is totally reasonable that during training camp a
guy who was not actually ever maybe you think he
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should have been competing for the starting job he wasn't
the Browns. Again, you can make the argument that the
Browns simply don't know what they're doing. I don't know
what the biggest Shadoor fans out there, how they they
can make that argument. I don't know how the square
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the fact that the entire league said he's not worth
a first, second, third, or fourth round pick, and I
understand it. There was some league wide conspiracy talk. It's
all so stupid, but set all that aside. In training camp,
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the Browns looked at Joe Flacco as their starter and
Dylan Gabriel of the two young guys, as the higher
priority because he was the higher draft pick. That's how
that works. And then once Dylan Gabriel became the starter,
they looked at their third round rookie as a guy
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who needed as much practice reps as possible, so they
were not splitting practice reps, which is totally incompletely reasonable.
Life is a fifth round pick in this league is hard.
It is supposed to be hard, and it's not always fair.
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You get thrown into action and you have to look
better than Shador did, and it feels like, deep down,
people who know better know that, but deep down folks
also know, oh my god, this really gets people going,
and it's just so dumb. And so now what we
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will get is this week, Chador is gonna get a
real look. He will be the starter against the Raiders.
He will get the full week of practice, he will
get a game plan to his strength, you know, catered
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to him, and we'll see what he looks like. And
typically in sports, if you're good enough, none of the
other stuff really matters, and you don't have a lot
of As a fifth round quarterback, you're not gonna have
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a ton of better opportunities than this one, knowing you
are the starter all week long, going against a bad
team that is on a shorter week themselves, and an
opportunity to remake at least temporarily that Brown's quarterback discussion,
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because Gabriel has been really bad and if shredor goes
out there in balls, maybe he gets another week. But
my colleagues in the media that know it's not at
all outraged for should or to have no reps with
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the ones and implying or outright saying differently because either
they want to be in good with Prime, or it's
what they think their particular fans or followers will appreciate,
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or just because they think it'll get the most motion
on the internet. It's so bad, and it really is
a good example of This is a real example of
social media at times making the discourse dumber, and so
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that's why I want to spend a few minutes on it.
Off the top, we don't have to spend more time
on it. We will see what he looks like against
the Raiders. I think Dylan Gabriel has been the worst
starting quarterback in the league this year. And the only
reason that you wouldn't bench Gabriel for Shador is if
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when he has a full week of reps in practice
and is ready to go against the Raiders, he looks
at all like he looked in that Ravens game. Because
in that Ravens game, he looked like a guy who
was wholly unequipped for the job. And I didn't listen.
I didn't love him coming out of school, but I
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certainly liked him more coming out of school than Dylan Gabriel,
and in that game, he looked like a guy that
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New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, or Virginia. The other quick story
before I get to chiefs broncos is bron should be
coming back tonight sneaky double digit point streak watch which
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he has you know, the longest by multiple seasons in
NFL history or NFL NBA history. And as my wife
comes in midpod, you want to pop in. You want
to say hello to the people. You must think you
look real cute and fancy today. Wow the Hi Daniel,
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She's saying hello, everybody. Okay, have a nice day, Enjoy
the flowers. You're welcome, we are live, We're doing this show.
You're welcome, see you baby. So Bron is supposed to
come back tonight. The the I don't even know what
number the double digit point streak is at, guys. The
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if you guys could put that in the dock, don't check,
don't trust AI, go to it, get an actual number
and what second place is and what that number is.
It's just noteworthy, now am I mentioning. I'm mentioning that
for a couple of reasons. One is because I do
think if he's on a minute's restriction, you know, coming
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off an injury, it could theoretically be in jeopardy. And
the other is, uh, fresh off and unbelievable week where
you scare head back to back forty point games. Sadly,
Steph's double digit point streak reset back to zero, so
he's he's gonna have to keep going for about another
seventeen years if he wants to catch Bron on that record.
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That's either here nor there. I am really excited to
see what this Lakers team looks like with Bron. They
obviously need him to have any chance to compete with Okac.
Now it's possible nobody's gonna compete with a healthy OKC,
but Luke is playing so well, Austin's playing so well. Obviously,
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adding Lebron will make that team that much better, and
I'm curious how much he's gonna help them defensively. Bron's number,
by the ways, at one two hundred and ninety two,
which is just a little more than four hundred clear
of Michael Jordan's second place, which at eight hundred and
sixty six. And so that's something to watch tonight, as
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the Lakers more than survived the time without Bron at
ten and four. Now, the other thing I wanted to do,
and I promise that I'm not doing some gag. We
are doing Chiefs Broncos in three minutes is did you
guys see the Draymond court side interaction? So Draymond approaches
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a fan in New Orleans who was sitting courtside, and
the fan looked like he was taller than Draymond. So
this guy's got to be like six'. Eight it was
really bizarre to see the guys stand up And draymond,
come you, know almost nose to nose with, him and
the guy's bigger than, him And draymond was clearly very.
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Upset but it was interesting because they didn't kick the fan,
out and almost always if a player gets that upset
with a, fan that fan gets. Removed but they didn't
kick the fan. Out so Then draymond was asked about
it after the, game and he, said the guy kept
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calling me a, woman and it's, like wait. What and
Then draymond clarified he kept calling him a specific, woman
and again it's like wait. What and then the fan, explained, oh,
yeah he missed a few, layups got his own, rebound
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SO i started Chanting Angel. Reese now you can say
that's mean or disrespectful To, angel or it's low, brow
but it is clever and it is interesting that he
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could yell just repeatedly Say Angel, reese and everyone dram
including can know exactly what he's, saying exactly the dig
he's trying to get at. Him and, ADDITIONALLY i think
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that is totally in. BOUNDS i think that that is
the type of heckling that should not get a fan
disciplined at. All And i'm glad The New orleans staff
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did not try to kick that fan out or do
anything to, him And draymond's entire you, know, Basically i've
got a, Wife i've got. Kids you, can't. Buddy that
was not over the line Disrespect and if we really
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wanted to get on a deep, level the fact that
you kept saying calling me a woman was that you
felt that. Disrespectful that's like kind of. Sneaky reveals a
little more about you than maybe about the. Guy but
that type of heckling is the exact type of heckling
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that is in. Bounds and If i'm not a, heckler
if you're gonna, heckle it's the type of heckling that
you should. Do it's no, profanity there's nothing truly personal or,
offensive but it gets under the opposing team. Skin so
THAT i thought was, Solid like that kind of witty
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by that. Guy, OKAY i wanted to get to those
stories BECAUSE i wanted to be on the record about,
him AND i don't know how long we're gonna Talk broncos,
chiefs AND i didn't want to not have, time and
the people in the chat, saying quit stalling and get to, it.
GUYS i. AM i. DO i do about more live
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media than at least sports media than anyone in the.
Field i'm not you, Know i'm not IN i certainly
don't do more media than everyone who does sports media
if you include their asinine and ridiculous political talk. Shows
but when it comes to actual sports, TALK i do
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quite a. Bit i'm not gonna be able to run
from any, story AND i certainly can't run from this.
One The chiefs went To denver and arguably their biggest
regular season game Of patrick's, career and got thoroughly outplayed
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and blew a more than winnable game multiple, times blew
a fourth quarter, lead and in that singular, Game Bo
nicks played better Than Patrick. Mahomes that is what. HAPPENED
i could not have been more shocked watching a game
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THAN i was watching that, one BECAUSE i The chiefs
are healthy for the most. PART i know they don't Have.
Pacheco The chiefs right now are a healthier than AVERAGE
nfl team for this point the. Season they were off a,
bye they had full, motivation a lot of familiarity with that,
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opponent And patrick was off and the defense could not
get a stop when it, mattered and so on the
offensive side of. Things first second play of the, game
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you Have Xavier worthy open for. Six, yeah it's a
tough throw because it's sixty yards in the, air but
those are the throws that you know partly Made Patrick.
Mahomes Patrick, mahomes he missed. Him that would have been
a chance to just basically set the tone for the.
Game immediately missed that. Opportunity. Obviously you, know they had
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a sequence right before The patrick, interception and this might
have been the single biggest swing of the. Game patrick
throws a little swing pass To Kareem. Hunt he gets
down to the two yard. Line they're gonna have first
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and goal the. Two Juwan taylor the illegal formation lined
up too far. Back instead of first and goal from the,
two it becomes first and. Fifteen two plays, Later patrick
makes a terrible, throw and instead of at least being
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without the, penalty it's probably gonna be thirteen to six
with the, penalty it still should be at least nine to.
Six throws a, Pick denver drives down and. Scores despite all,
That Kansas city fights, back scores a couple, touchdowns takes a,
lead has the ball in the fourth quarter with a,
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lead go, down score a, touchdown game over three and,
out then gets the ball. Back tie game four minutes,
perfect not going to cover the three three and a,
half but still drive down the, field kick a field,
goal win the game three and. Out and then on
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the defensive side of the, ball first drive of the,
game first play, sack have them in second and, sixteen
which turns into third and, seven and give it. Up
later in that, drive have them in third and eleven
outside of field goal, range and give it. Up and
on the final drive of the, game after those two
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offensive three and, outs you instantly have Bo nicks in
third and fifteen and you can't get a pass rush
and you give up a twenty yard. Completion three plays,
later it's third and, six still not in field goal,
range and you give up a seven yard. Completion ever
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made the high leverage, Plays Kansas city did, not And
denver now is a stranglehold on the. Division AND i
can think WHAT i want and still think about Bow
knicks and his long term viability as a franchise. Quarterback
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but the fact of the matter is On, sunday he,
played in my, opinion the best game of his, career
in the second biggest game of his. Career the only
game that would have been bigger is the playoff, game
and he was. Excellent excellent might be. Strong he was
good certainly more than good. Enough And denver now has
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a buye and then back to back soft games at
The commanders at The, raiders and then a very tough
final month of the, season but they should go into
that month eleven and, two Then Packers jags at The
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chiefs home for The. Chargers so tough, month but three
of the four games are at. Home the one road
game Is Christmas night at The. Chiefs and So denver
right now is the one. SEED i would not my
money would be On denver finishing as the two right.
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Now IF i IF i had to handicap, IT i
would Say New england Won denver TWO d, three But
denver deserves. Credit And Sean payton talked shit at halftime
To Tracy wolfson and backed it, up, SAID i like
where we. Are they're first half. TEAM i thought it
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was outrageous what he. Said he backed it all. Up what's,
so what's interesting is internally The chiefs still feel like
this team can be and should be better than last year's,
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team with the offensive line being that much so much
better and the wide receiving core being, healthy and maybe
it can, be but they are butting up against that
potentially not. Mattering and here's WHAT i. Mean they are
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five and five obvious if they go seven and, oh
they're a lock for the. Playoffs and at seven and
oh they actually would have a chance to come all
the way back and win the. Division but it would
be and even though they're favored in every game, remaining
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given the fact that they're five and, five just sitting
here saying they're gonna rip off seven straight would be overly,
optimistic even for. Me but seven and oh definitely gets them.
In six and, one which would put them at eleven
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and six almost assuredly gets them. In but five and
two probably does. Not and that is the thing THAT i,
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think if we're going to have an honest conversation about
where The chiefs, are what has to be acknowledged is
they probably only have one more loss to play, with
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barring a true collapse by The jags or The. Chargers
and that's the anxiety inducing, part BECAUSE i still. LISTEN i,
yes of, course you'd rather win the, division you'd rather
be the one, seed you'd rather all these. Things but
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as The chiefs proved a couple years, ago they can
go on the road in the playoffs against a gone
a far TOUGHER afc that year than what potentially exists
this year and win playoff games In buffalo In. Baltimore
they can do. That so being even the seventh seed
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in THE afc this year wouldn't be. Devastating like If
i'm right about how the bracket, falls if you're the seventh,
seed what you're staring at is a rematch of that
game we just saw this past weekend In, denver third
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time playing each, other and then a trip To New. England.
Again you don't love any of those, spots but historically
the seventh seed in THE, afc what it would mean
is they are going To buffalo and then either To
baltimore or Two Kansas city against THOSE mvp. Quarterbacks this
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is a little. Different so as the seventh, SEED i
actually wouldn't hate the path if the bracket holds the
WAY i think you know it likely. Should The the
concern is if The, chiefs just after starting five and,
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five just go five and two the rest of the
way and it puts them at ten and, seven will
that will because of tie breakers they miss? Out because
here is what is noteworthy right, now The chiefs have
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lost head to head To. Jacksonville they also have four
conference losses, already they have lost head to head to The.
Chargers they will get The chargers, again, obviously but The
chiefs are one and two in the. Division The chargers
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are three and zero in the. Division The chiefs have
TWO A ofc, Losses i'm, sorry FOUR afc. Losses The
chargers have. Two so it is going to be very
difficult for The chiefs to make it in over The. Jags,
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well impossible over The jags if they have the same,
record and very difficult for them to make it in
over The chargers if they have the same. Record so
then again you start counting, wins and The jags this
is what they have left at The, cardinals at The titans,
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Home colts, Home, jets At broncos At colts Home. Titans
so if we just say and, again The jags are
known to blow a game or, TWO i understand. That
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but if we just give them the wins against The
titans and The, jets that puts them at. Nine they
would then just need one win Against, Cardinals broncos and
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Two colts games to get to. Ten and, again a
ten Win jags team gets a spot over a ten
Win chiefs. Team The chargers are sitting at seven. Wins
they play The, raiders they're on a by then they
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play The, raiders then home for The, eagles then at The,
chiefs at The, cowboys home for The, texans at The.
Broncos and That broncos game is a tricky one because
it's possible that in that, Game denver is locked into its. Spot, now,
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again it's too many moving parts to, that but it's
Possible denver goes into that game where they can't, catch
they can't be the one seed and they're not gonna
fall below two or, three and maybe they rest. GUYS
i don't know if they, would but that That charger
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game At, denver it's at least on the, board they're
playing The denver. Backups so they're at seven. Wins if
we give them the win against The, raiders which puts
them at, Eight, Eagles, Chiefs, Cowboys, Texans, broncos if they
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can win two of, those that puts them at. Ten
and again it's not, guaranteed but a a ten Win
chiefs team would not in all likelihood have the tiebreaker
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over a ten Win charger. Team they would if somehow
like one of The chargers losses was to The raiders
instead of The. Eagles but if The chargers get to
ten wins by beating The, raiders The texans And week
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eighteen Against denver and loses to The, Eagles, Chiefs, cowboys
The chiefs don't have that, tiebreaker and that means a
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ten Win charger team would get in Over Kansas. City
so here's And i'm not even gonna GET i know
some people are trying to Force houston into the playoff.
Conversation houston is at five and. Five their next three Are, Bills, Colts. Chiefs,
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obviously if The chiefs lose The texans, game they're probably screwed,
Anyway and if The texans lose The chiefs, game they're.
Screwed So i'm not worried about The. Texans it is
though right, now unless The chargers Or jags really fall,
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apart The chiefs have to go six and one down the.
Stretch that's where we're. At that is the reality of the,
tiebreakers the head to, head the awful loss To jacksonville
that should have never, Happened that is kind of looming
over this season right, now and not being able to
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make plays in the winning moments this. Year crazy stat
From Scott. Kasmar The chiefs the two years full seasons
prior to this, one so the twenty three and twenty four,
seasons they gave up two total third and ten or
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longers on defense in the fourth quarter of one score.
Games they've given up one of those in four of
their five losses this. Year that's how at this point
last year they were nine to one despite scoring fewer
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points per, game allowing more points per, game and having
a worse turnover margin than the team does this. Year
they're not making the plays when it, matters and that's
a huge skill of being a championship football. Team, now
if that's enough doom and, gloom what definitively is true
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is if they are able to rip off six of
the next, seven they will go into the playoffs incredibly
dangerous and with a higher ceiling than last year's. Team
but that means you've got to obviously beat The titans
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and The raiders on the, road beat The cowboys on the.
Road those are your three games against teams with a losing,
record and Then, Colts, Texans, Chargers broncos all at. Home
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you got to go three and one WITH i guess
the game you would like to lose of those the
most would be The broncos. Game and so that's the
spot therein and we'll see how they. Respond it. IS
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i am not going to engage at. All and there
seems to be a very concerted effort from folks in
the media that are Diehard patriot fans to try to
use this ten games Of mahomes's eighth season as Some
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Brady mahomes referendum or Some Chiefs pats dynasty. REFERENDUM i
it's obviously, idiotic and it obviously just recreates history as
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far as what you know the ebbs and flows of
The patriots run actually. Were So i'm not going to
spend time on. That in the first eight years Of
tom they missed the playoffs, twice just flat missed them.
Twice THAT i think that. Is we will see how
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this year, goes and then we can do an accounting
of the, dynasties whether we want to start from one
to eight versus the first eight years For, patrick or
if we want to compare it to their best eight,
years which was eleven to eighteen versus these eight years
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that eleven to eighteen team is the only you know
they made eight straight conference championship. Games The chiefs record
right now is at seven straight at the end of this.
Season we can do a dynasty for dynasty accounting doing
it right now and pretending like By tom's eighth year
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he hadn't already missed the playoffs, twice missed one entire
season due to. Injury uh and only like is just.
Disingenuous but it informed me in a. WAY i didn't
realize that there was a lot of dynastic insecurity potentially
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emanating From New england about what The chiefs could potentially
do to how people view The patch run versus The chiefs.
RUN i didn't view it that. WAY i think The
patch run is one of the greatest things in the
history of the sport and very unique as far as
you view it as three separate eras one to, four
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the ten Year Super bowl drought with the undefeated season
in the middle of, it which is, insane of five to,
thirteen and then the unbelievable run from fourteen to eighteen
on the back. End is that how you view? It
do you view it as one long? Run do you
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like THERE'S i think what The patriots With tom And
bill did is going to be almost impossible to duplicate
as far as the longevity of. It that's separate from
What patrick and The chiefs are. Doing but we'll see
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how this year goes and we can do like a you,
Know Greatest dynasties Ever tale of the. Tape but there
was just a lot of from folks THAT i a
lot of. Chirpin' maybe it's because The patriots are good
this year out Of New. England that feels a touch,
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premature just a, Touch And i'm gonna talk To colin
about it today ON. Tv we're three weeks removed from
The chiefs And patrick both being OVERWHELMING mvp And Super bowl,
favorites and now, listen we are where we. ARE i
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i've been saying all year in a lot of different,
ways remind me so much of last Year's, chiefs the
Defending Super bowl champs that keep winning games and people keep, saying,
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yeah but that win didn't make me feel warm and
fuzzy the WAY i wanted. To but they keep winning
and even also as an added, bonus some controversial officiating
mixed in as well that people get upset. About to be,
clear it obviously was a BAD dpi call that Ended Eagles.
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Lions but also to be, clear anyone that watched that
game and thought If Jared goff got the ball there
The lions were gonna go score is being. Disingenuous That
eagles defense dominated The lions up front the whole. Game
so here are my biggest takeaways From Sunday night. Football
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start with The lions quickly that if that offensive line
doesn't start playing, better they are going to be in
trouble against the best d lines And Jared goff can't sustain.
That and The, lions who look so fast and so,
dynamic indoors their path now right now they you, Know
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Lions chiefs hold, On, Lions, Chiefs, Ravens texans all on
the outside looking in of the playoffs right. NOW i
don't know. Why oh that's WHAT i was, Thinking lions Chief, Sorry, Chiefs,
Ravens texans along with The bills have been the final
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four in THE afc to the last two, years three
of the four on the outside looking, in But, Lions, Chiefs,
ravens three of the Five Super bowl favorites going into
the year right, now all on the outside looking in
on the, playoffs but that's not The lion's. Path now
potentially being on the road with what is all of a,
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sudden a good but not dominant offensive, line that is
concerning for. Them The eagles defense got, healthy Added Jalen,
phillips and now after being a major question mark to
me early in the, year is the strength of their.
Team the criticisms about the offense are. Fair the offense
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has been. Bad saquan is not, Explosive Jalen hurts SEEMS
i don't want to say, afraid but overly cautious or
hesitant to throw the ball unless it's wide open or
third and forever and he has no. Choice all of
that is really. Concerning and then you add to It
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Lane johnson being out for what is being called four
to six, weeks WHICH i don't know if you can,
trust that is super concerning. Them scoring twenty six points
in their last two games is. Problematic with that said
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that they have the division locked up, already they have
plenty of time to hopefully Get Lane johnson back before the,
playoffs and with how tough the rams remaining schedule is
(51:30):
and The bucks going on this little losing, streak it
sure feels Like philly is pretty well positioned to be
the one, seed have the playoffs go through the link
and the offensive, struggles be damned that defense In january playoff,
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Games you've got to like their. Chances So i'm not
going to act like the offense hasn't been, problematic BUT
i am going to acknowledge THAT i do think winning
is a. SKILL i Think philly has such a, deep
talented roster they can overcome a totally anemic. Offense and
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if they get the one seed and they're at home
resting while The rams is the two, seed potentially have
a wild card weekend playoff game of you, know Green
bay coming to. Town that doesn't sound. Fun So philly's
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positioned themselves really well by winning these, games even if
they're winning. Ugly The jalen hasn't been very. Good the
offense has not been. Good it has not mattered a
quarterback who has been good As Josh allen and, LISTEN
i am used to The Josh allen media, narrative which,
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is if he plays poorly or they, lose we kill the.
Roster and when he plays like he Did, sunday he's
THE mvp and the best player in the. League i'm
used to. It we've been doing it for five. Years
i'm fine with. It what they Did sunday is What
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i've been encouraging them to do all. Year and you
may be, like, oh you encourage them to score forty. Points,
no What i'm saying is the dink and dunk ball
control run the Ball bill's offense does not work with
A bill's defense as bad as this. One so instead
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you have to full on Unleash Josh. Allen you're going
to get a few of those just idiotic, turnovers like
the two handed chest pas out of his own end,
zone which was just absolutely. Bananas you're gonna get, that
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and you just gotta deal with, it just the cost
to doing, business because it's it unleashes, him and that
version Of josh is as scary as any player in the.
League and so that's where AND i argued With wild's
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about this. Yesterday he he thinks The bills have no real,
shot AND i just disagree with. Him they they are,
far you, know far from a perfect. Team but when
you Let josh just go sorry for the cringe, here
the full, yolo they can beat. Anybody and my, bucks
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that's a game you could have. Stolen AND i gotta tell,
YOU I i really Thought Todd bowles made a big.
Mistake so here's what The bills had done in this.
Game here's what their drives. Were, interception, touchdown, touchdown, interception,
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touchdown a three and out where they went three and
out Because, josh while scrambling through a twelve yards pass
the line of, screamage tried the lateral but threw it,
forward so lost it. Down they had to. Punt they
then muffed their own punt so they didn't get a
possession field, goal, touchdown. Touchdown and in that, moment When
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tampa has stopped The bills once the entire game without
forcing a, turnover they have forced one punt the whole.
Game it is the fourth, quarter there is seven and
a half minutes, left you're down, five you have a
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fourth and, two And Todd bowles punted it. Away AND
i hated it so much, because not, surprisingly The bills
respond eight, plays eighty five yards just immediate, touchdown and
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it ended the. Game and so The bucks, LISTEN i,
THINK i still think The bucks are really good and
six and, four given the end, injuries there's no shame
in that losing the last two games the way they did,
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though test against The, patriots they don't take the lead
early and then The patriots kind of dominate them the
rest of the. Way and then A bills game where
they had plenty of opportunities and they they couldn't get
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over the finish. Line now they go to The rams
and this stretch we sat all. Year they can go
one and two in this, Stretch oho and three would be.
Rough so huge game against The rams for my. Bucks
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Plan all, right let me get to a few like
the other games in some quick hit or. Fashion So
Rams seahawks was a unique one BECAUSE i actually came
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away even more impressed with The seahawks. Defense. UH i,
know The rams are the defense that forced the four,
turnovers but the fact That darnold could not stop turning
the ball over and The seahawks defense kept The seahawks
in this, GAME i thought was. Remarkable right, now The
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rams do look like the most complete team in THE,
nfl and it definitely About excuse, me would not surprise
me if The rams make The Super. Bowl you guys
know how Much i've liked this see in the last
couple of, years and how MUCH i Like, stafford And
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stafford's still the CLEAR mvp. Favorite but The seahawks are for,
real which is why it's a shame that we are
now getting a growing volume of evidence That darnald in
big spots just plays his worst ball. Man and that's
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a shame because he's played so well for the last two.
Years but his bad games in big spots are not, like,
ah he wasn't that. Good they're. Meltdowns and that is
if you're A seahawks, fan that's gonna Have you're gonna
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have a little pit in your stomach the rest of
the year worrying about. That the other games From week,
eleven The patriots blows blow out The jets ON i
don't even know if they call blow. Out The patriots
beat The jets On Thursday night. Football The jets are
now benching justin. Fields that game was. Gross The dolphins
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beat The commanders sixteen thirteen in an even grosser football
game Where mike. McDaniel i but some of the game
management stuff at the end of that, game like not
kicking a field goal in the final minutes of a
tie game Against Marcus, MARIOTA i just don't. Understand And
(01:00:45):
i'm typically aggressive by, nature but you you're not a
power running. Team you're Playing. Mariota they ended up winning,
Anyway but my, God Miami packers beat The giants twenty
seven to twenty and a game that it feels like
If Jackson dart were playing The giants maybe could have.
STOLEN i don't think you watched that game and feel
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great about The. Packers bears beat The vikings nineteen seventeen
to go to first place in the, division another final
second comeback that they should not have. Needed you're up
sixteen to three ON jj McCarthy in the fourth quarter
and you almost blow it and. Listen credit to The
bears for getting to seven. Wins that was an ugly
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one lot of, ugly close but ugly. Football this, Weekend
texans beat The titans sixteen thirteen and Cam ward had
one great. Drive The titans are just a total. Mess
texans defense unbelievable offense seems like With stroud Or Davis.
Mills it's just capted around sixteen seventeen. Points Bryce young
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plays the game of his life in The pros four
hundred and some yards as The panthers stay right in
the thick of the playoff, race get to six and,
five beating The falcons in. Overtime brutal loss for The
falcons and bigger Loss pinnicks out for the. Year and
remember The falcons don't have their first round pick because
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they traded it to The. Rams that might end up
being the six to seventh pick of the. Draft steelers
beat The bengals thanks to a bunch of defensive. Scorers
rogers has a small fracture in his left, wrist but
he wants to. Play will monitor. THAT i don't think
there's a huge difference right now Between rogers And, rudolph
(01:02:34):
but The, steelers you, know keep The ravens At bay for,
now and The niners beat The cardinals and one of
the most bizarre football games ever played Where Jacoby brissett
now has the all TIME nfl record for completions in
a game with forty. Seven But purdy comes back in looks,
great and The niners get to seven wins and they
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stay right in the thick of the playoff hunt Uh
jason Asks nick at the end of the, season where
DO i Think, Jackson smith And jig will be viewed
in terms of top receivers in the? League top? Three
somewhere in the top three along With Justin jefferson And Jamar.
Chase rough weeks for those. Guys by the, Way Justin
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jefferson having a down year In Jamar chase spitting on
A Jalen ramsey t, asked do you think it's a
coincidence that bron is choosing to come back with almost
exactly sixty five games? Remaining, NO, i, well, YES i
do think it's a, Coincidence and, NO i, LISTEN i
don't think he's gonna be. Eligible so What tea is
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implying is that you Know lebron is giving himself the
chance to make the sixty five game. THRESHOLD i would
be shocked because he's missed fourteen the most you can
miss his. SEVENTEEN i would be shocked If lebron only
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sits three games the rest of the. Year first of,
all he has to in year twenty three stay fully
healthy the rest of the, year and then they also
have to not rest him ever really except for three.
Games so, NO i think that The ALL nba, streak
which is at what is it? At twenty two? Straight
twenty one straight? Seasons this is your twenty three he's
(01:04:26):
made The ALL nba team. Ever, yeah so twenty one
straight years of being An ALL nba player that is
not dead but certainly on life support For bron with
only three games played with AND i just don't think
HE'S i think he's GONNA i think he's probably gonna
play closer to fifty five than sixty five games this.
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Year for those of you wondering twenty One ALL nba,
teams what's second? Most, Duncan kareem And kobe tied for
the second most with fifteen. Each jay, says is it
on the board that Browns Kevin stefanski do not know
how to develop quarterbacks and is he's still getting too
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much grace out of that coach of the year and
the greatness Of Miles. GARRETT i don't understand at all the.
UH i don't understand at all The Kevin Stefanski Andrew
berry love that team has Been Miles garrett's unbelievable defense
is really. Good they can't win, games and they've been
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there for a long time and they have absolutely year
after year botched the quarterback. Situation so, NO I i
don't understand their job. Security like great subscriber review to the,
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A ton to do today as I am covered in
shame and losing bets and really a state of unease
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surrounding my hometown, beloved Kansas City Chiefs after a game
that I just never saw coming. And we will get
to that in full. There are a couple quick little
things that I would like to get to before we
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get to that. And here's why I'm obviously I'm not
running from it. I had to deal with it on
TV yesterday. I'm gonna have to deal with it with
Colin and more on TV today, and we're gonna spend
a lot of time on it. Here. The reason that
we're gonna get to these others, small but I think
really important stories just quickly off the top, is actually
because God only knows how long the Chiefs Broncos part
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of the show is gonna take, and I want to
make sure we have time to get to these other things.
But it will. It will be given its full accounting
of what happened on Sunday. What that means for the
Chiefs for the rest of the year why they actually
might be in a slightly tougher playoff position as far
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as making the playoffs, then I think people currently understand
and where I was appear to have been wrong about
the Denver Broncos, who I said would go into their
by at six and five, and they go into their
buy on an eight game winning streak at nine and two.
So all of that coming up shortly. First straight voicemail
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presented to you by Boost Mobile. The Cowboys annihilate the
Raiders on Monday Night Football. Yeah, my Raiders are gonna
be the second best team in the AFC West. Take
is just a classic three instantly wrong. They'll always have
Week one of beating the Patriots, which right now registers
as the most bizarre outcome of the NBA SE of
(02:18):
the NFL season. Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens bench for
the opening drive of that game. It didn't matter. They
were dominant after that. Quinn Williams was great as the
Cowboys get to four five and one, maybe a couple
minutes on this game later and Wimby out weeks with
a calf injury. Huge bummer, and excuse me, you understand
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them being cautious with him. But it also means for
the gamblers out there, if anybody took some long shot
Defensive Player of the Years that weren't obviously Winmby wouldn't
have been a long shot. Those bets are super live
because Wimby is probably gonna be ineligible to win Defensive
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Player of the Year due to not reaching the sixty
five games minimum threshold. So I don't know who you
know what bets people made, but if you made a ah,
kind of a bummer bet, but I don't think Wimby's
gonna play enough games, it was good foresight and I'm
I will you know, the sportsbooks might not have even
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fully adjusted where he might still be a huge favorite,
but he shouldn't be the So yeah, Wimby is now
four to one and Chet is plus one point thirty.
I'm just I think there's probably value on everyone else
in the marketplace because Wimby at four to one, I
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think Wimby probably should be, like, you know, close to
off the board. I just don't think he's gonna hit
the sixty five games, all right, And that's courtesy our
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before we get to the Chiefs Broncos, and the first
one is believe it or not, for one of the
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first times in this show's history, we are going to
start with Shadoor Sanders, but we're not actually starting with Shador,
and so that sounds silly, but here's the point I'm making.
So Shoudor came in, he obviously was terrible. He was
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four of sixteen. It's the worst completion percentage by a
guy who threw at least ten passes in four years
in the NFL. It was a game that the Browns
could have been. One would correctly argue what even should
have won with just tip bad quarterback play. Instead, Gabriel
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was terrible, and then Shador came in and was somehow worse,
and they lose and the Ravens escape with a win
they did not really deserve, despite Miles Garrett, who might
get twenty five sacks this year just playing at an
all time level. But the reason I'm starting with Shador
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is because this morning Twitter was down for a bit,
and I think Twitter has I want to make sure
I use the right word warped people's brains and ability
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to discuss Shador Sanders in a way it's such an
What you have and what Twitter has rewarded from content
creators is the most idiotic Shadore Sanders takes being so
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amplified and being so force fed to anyone who has
any type of sports algorithm that you have folks who
know better, or at least should know better, polluting the
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public discourse with just nonsensical misinformation. And so you've got
and it's on. And this is one of the rare
things where it is really a both sides problem. You
have folks who gain traction and get engagement by finding
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anything imaginable to who criticize Shador for up to an
including where he's sitting on the bench during and after
a game, because that gets engagement. And then you have
on the other end of it, folks acting as if
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it takes a grand conspiracy for a fifth round pick,
third string quarterback to not have reps with the starting offense,
when it is totally reasonable that during training camp a
guy who was not actually ever maybe you think he
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should have been competing for the starting job he wasn't
the Browns. Again, you can make the argument that the
Browns simply don't know what they're doing. I don't know
what the biggest Shadoor fans out there, how they they
can make that argument. I don't know how the square
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the fact that the entire league said he's not worth
a first, second, third, or fourth round pick, and I
understand it. There was some league wide conspiracy talk. It's
all so stupid, but set all that aside. In training camp,
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the Browns looked at Joe Flacco as their starter and
Dylan Gabriel of the two young guys, as the higher
priority because he was the higher draft pick. That's how
that works. And then once Dylan Gabriel became the starter,
they looked at their third round rookie as a guy
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who needed as much practice reps as possible, so they
were not splitting practice reps, which is totally incompletely reasonable.
Life is a fifth round pick in this league is hard.
It is supposed to be hard, and it's not always fair.
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You get thrown into action and you have to look
better than Shador did, and it feels like, deep down,
people who know better know that, but deep down folks
also know, oh my god, this really gets people going,
and it's just so dumb. And so now what we
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will get is this week, Chador is gonna get a
real look. He will be the starter against the Raiders.
He will get the full week of practice, he will
get a game plan to his strength, you know, catered
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to him, and we'll see what he looks like. And
typically in sports, if you're good enough, none of the
other stuff really matters, and you don't have a lot
of As a fifth round quarterback, you're not gonna have
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a ton of better opportunities than this one, knowing you
are the starter all week long, going against a bad
team that is on a shorter week themselves, and an
opportunity to remake at least temporarily that Brown's quarterback discussion,
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because Gabriel has been really bad and if shredor goes
out there in balls, maybe he gets another week. But
my colleagues in the media that know it's not at
all outraged for should or to have no reps with
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the ones and implying or outright saying differently because either
they want to be in good with Prime, or it's
what they think their particular fans or followers will appreciate,
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or just because they think it'll get the most motion
on the internet. It's so bad, and it really is
a good example of This is a real example of
social media at times making the discourse dumber, and so
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that's why I want to spend a few minutes on it.
Off the top, we don't have to spend more time
on it. We will see what he looks like against
the Raiders. I think Dylan Gabriel has been the worst
starting quarterback in the league this year. And the only
reason that you wouldn't bench Gabriel for Shador is if
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when he has a full week of reps in practice
and is ready to go against the Raiders, he looks
at all like he looked in that Ravens game. Because
in that Ravens game, he looked like a guy who
was wholly unequipped for the job. And I didn't listen.
I didn't love him coming out of school, but I
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certainly liked him more coming out of school than Dylan Gabriel,
and in that game, he looked like a guy that
was a ways away from being a ways away. Today's
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coming back tonight sneaky double digit point streak watch which
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he has you know, the longest by multiple seasons in
NFL history or NFL NBA history. And as my wife
comes in midpod, you want to pop in. You want
to say hello to the people. You must think you
look real cute and fancy today. Wow the Hi Daniel,
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She's saying hello, everybody. Okay, have a nice day, Enjoy
the flowers. You're welcome, we are live, We're doing this show.
You're welcome, see you baby. So Bron is supposed to
come back tonight. The the I don't even know what
number the double digit point streak is at, guys. The
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if you guys could put that in the dock, don't check,
don't trust AI, go to it, get an actual number
and what second place is and what that number is.
It's just noteworthy, now am I mentioning. I'm mentioning that
for a couple of reasons. One is because I do
think if he's on a minute's restriction, you know, coming
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off an injury, it could theoretically be in jeopardy. And
the other is, uh, fresh off and unbelievable week where
you scare head back to back forty point games. Sadly,
Steph's double digit point streak reset back to zero, so
he's he's gonna have to keep going for about another
seventeen years if he wants to catch Bron on that record.
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That's either here nor there. I am really excited to
see what this Lakers team looks like with Bron. They
obviously need him to have any chance to compete with Okac.
Now it's possible nobody's gonna compete with a healthy OKC,
but Luke is playing so well, Austin's playing so well. Obviously,
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adding Lebron will make that team that much better, and
I'm curious how much he's gonna help them defensively. Bron's number,
by the ways, at one two hundred and ninety two,
which is just a little more than four hundred clear
of Michael Jordan's second place, which at eight hundred and
sixty six. And so that's something to watch tonight, as
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the Lakers more than survived the time without Bron at
ten and four. Now, the other thing I wanted to do,
and I promise that I'm not doing some gag. We
are doing Chiefs Broncos in three minutes is did you
guys see the Draymond court side interaction? So Draymond approaches
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a fan in New Orleans who was sitting courtside, and
the fan looked like he was taller than Draymond. So
this guy's got to be like six'. Eight it was
really bizarre to see the guys stand up And draymond,
come you, know almost nose to nose with, him and
the guy's bigger than, him And draymond was clearly very.
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Upset but it was interesting because they didn't kick the fan,
out and almost always if a player gets that upset
with a, fan that fan gets. Removed but they didn't
kick the fan. Out so Then draymond was asked about
it after the, game and he, said the guy kept
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calling me a, woman and it's, like wait. What and
Then draymond clarified he kept calling him a specific, woman
and again it's like wait. What and then the fan, explained, oh,
yeah he missed a few, layups got his own, rebound
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SO i started Chanting Angel. Reese now you can say
that's mean or disrespectful To, angel or it's low, brow
but it is clever and it is interesting that he
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could yell just repeatedly Say Angel, reese and everyone dram
including can know exactly what he's, saying exactly the dig
he's trying to get at. Him and, ADDITIONALLY i think
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that is totally in. BOUNDS i think that that is
the type of heckling that should not get a fan
disciplined at. All And i'm glad The New orleans staff
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did not try to kick that fan out or do
anything to, him And draymond's entire you, know, Basically i've
got a, Wife i've got. Kids you, can't. Buddy that
was not over the line Disrespect and if we really
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wanted to get on a deep, level the fact that
you kept saying calling me a woman was that you
felt that. Disrespectful that's like kind of. Sneaky reveals a
little more about you than maybe about the. Guy but
that type of heckling is the exact type of heckling
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that is in. Bounds and If i'm not a, heckler
if you're gonna, heckle it's the type of heckling that
you should. Do it's no, profanity there's nothing truly personal or,
offensive but it gets under the opposing team. Skin so
THAT i thought was, Solid like that kind of witty
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by that. Guy, OKAY i wanted to get to those
stories BECAUSE i wanted to be on the record about,
him AND i don't know how long we're gonna Talk broncos,
chiefs AND i didn't want to not have, time and
the people in the chat, saying quit stalling and get to, it.
GUYS i. AM i. DO i do about more live
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media than at least sports media than anyone in the.
Field i'm not you, Know i'm not IN i certainly
don't do more media than everyone who does sports media
if you include their asinine and ridiculous political talk. Shows
but when it comes to actual sports, TALK i do
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quite a. Bit i'm not gonna be able to run
from any, story AND i certainly can't run from this.
One The chiefs went To denver and arguably their biggest
regular season game Of patrick's, career and got thoroughly outplayed
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and blew a more than winnable game multiple, times blew
a fourth quarter, lead and in that singular, Game Bo
nicks played better Than Patrick. Mahomes that is what. HAPPENED
i could not have been more shocked watching a game
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THAN i was watching that, one BECAUSE i The chiefs
are healthy for the most. PART i know they don't Have.
Pacheco The chiefs right now are a healthier than AVERAGE
nfl team for this point the. Season they were off a,
bye they had full, motivation a lot of familiarity with that,
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opponent And patrick was off and the defense could not
get a stop when it, mattered and so on the
offensive side of. Things first second play of the, game
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you Have Xavier worthy open for. Six, yeah it's a
tough throw because it's sixty yards in the, air but
those are the throws that you know partly Made Patrick.
Mahomes Patrick, mahomes he missed. Him that would have been
a chance to just basically set the tone for the.
Game immediately missed that. Opportunity. Obviously you, know they had
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a sequence right before The patrick, interception and this might
have been the single biggest swing of the. Game patrick
throws a little swing pass To Kareem. Hunt he gets
down to the two yard. Line they're gonna have first
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and goal the. Two Juwan taylor the illegal formation lined
up too far. Back instead of first and goal from the,
two it becomes first and. Fifteen two plays, Later patrick
makes a terrible, throw and instead of at least being
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without the, penalty it's probably gonna be thirteen to six
with the, penalty it still should be at least nine to.
Six throws a, Pick denver drives down and. Scores despite all,
That Kansas city fights, back scores a couple, touchdowns takes a,
lead has the ball in the fourth quarter with a,
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lead go, down score a, touchdown game over three and,
out then gets the ball. Back tie game four minutes,
perfect not going to cover the three three and a,
half but still drive down the, field kick a field,
goal win the game three and. Out and then on
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the defensive side of the, ball first drive of the,
game first play, sack have them in second and, sixteen
which turns into third and, seven and give it. Up
later in that, drive have them in third and eleven
outside of field goal, range and give it. Up and
on the final drive of the, game after those two
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offensive three and, outs you instantly have Bo nicks in
third and fifteen and you can't get a pass rush
and you give up a twenty yard. Completion three plays,
later it's third and, six still not in field goal,
range and you give up a seven yard. Completion ever
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made the high leverage, Plays Kansas city did, not And
denver now is a stranglehold on the. Division AND i
can think WHAT i want and still think about Bow
knicks and his long term viability as a franchise. Quarterback
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but the fact of the matter is On, sunday he,
played in my, opinion the best game of his, career
in the second biggest game of his. Career the only
game that would have been bigger is the playoff, game
and he was. Excellent excellent might be. Strong he was
good certainly more than good. Enough And denver now has
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a buye and then back to back soft games at
The commanders at The, raiders and then a very tough
final month of the, season but they should go into
that month eleven and, two Then Packers jags at The
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chiefs home for The. Chargers so tough, month but three
of the four games are at. Home the one road
game Is Christmas night at The. Chiefs and So denver
right now is the one. SEED i would not my
money would be On denver finishing as the two right.
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Now IF i IF i had to handicap, IT i
would Say New england Won denver TWO d, three But
denver deserves. Credit And Sean payton talked shit at halftime
To Tracy wolfson and backed it, up, SAID i like
where we. Are they're first half. TEAM i thought it
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was outrageous what he. Said he backed it all. Up what's,
so what's interesting is internally The chiefs still feel like
this team can be and should be better than last year's,
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team with the offensive line being that much so much
better and the wide receiving core being, healthy and maybe
it can, be but they are butting up against that
potentially not. Mattering and here's WHAT i. Mean they are
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five and five obvious if they go seven and, oh
they're a lock for the. Playoffs and at seven and
oh they actually would have a chance to come all
the way back and win the. Division but it would
be and even though they're favored in every game, remaining
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given the fact that they're five and, five just sitting
here saying they're gonna rip off seven straight would be overly,
optimistic even for. Me but seven and oh definitely gets them.
In six and, one which would put them at eleven
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and six almost assuredly gets them. In but five and
two probably does. Not and that is the thing THAT i,
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think if we're going to have an honest conversation about
where The chiefs, are what has to be acknowledged is
they probably only have one more loss to play, with
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barring a true collapse by The jags or The. Chargers
and that's the anxiety inducing, part BECAUSE i still. LISTEN i,
yes of, course you'd rather win the, division you'd rather
be the one, seed you'd rather all these. Things but
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as The chiefs proved a couple years, ago they can
go on the road in the playoffs against a gone
a far TOUGHER afc that year than what potentially exists
this year and win playoff games In buffalo In. Baltimore
they can do. That so being even the seventh seed
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in THE afc this year wouldn't be. Devastating like If
i'm right about how the bracket, falls if you're the seventh,
seed what you're staring at is a rematch of that
game we just saw this past weekend In, denver third
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time playing each, other and then a trip To New. England.
Again you don't love any of those, spots but historically
the seventh seed in THE, afc what it would mean
is they are going To buffalo and then either To
baltimore or Two Kansas city against THOSE mvp. Quarterbacks this
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is a little. Different so as the seventh, SEED i
actually wouldn't hate the path if the bracket holds the
WAY i think you know it likely. Should The the
concern is if The, chiefs just after starting five and,
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five just go five and two the rest of the
way and it puts them at ten and, seven will
that will because of tie breakers they miss? Out because
here is what is noteworthy right, now The chiefs have
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lost head to head To. Jacksonville they also have four
conference losses, already they have lost head to head to The.
Chargers they will get The chargers, again, obviously but The
chiefs are one and two in the. Division The chargers
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are three and zero in the. Division The chiefs have
TWO A ofc, Losses i'm, sorry FOUR afc. Losses The
chargers have. Two so it is going to be very
difficult for The chiefs to make it in over The. Jags,
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well impossible over The jags if they have the same,
record and very difficult for them to make it in
over The chargers if they have the same. Record so
then again you start counting, wins and The jags this
is what they have left at The, cardinals at The titans,
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Home colts, Home, jets At broncos At colts Home. Titans
so if we just say and, again The jags are
known to blow a game or, TWO i understand. That
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but if we just give them the wins against The
titans and The, jets that puts them at. Nine they
would then just need one win Against, Cardinals broncos and
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Two colts games to get to. Ten and, again a
ten Win jags team gets a spot over a ten
Win chiefs. Team The chargers are sitting at seven. Wins
they play The, raiders they're on a by then they
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play The, raiders then home for The, eagles then at The,
chiefs at The, cowboys home for The, texans at The.
Broncos and That broncos game is a tricky one because
it's possible that in that, Game denver is locked into its. Spot, now,
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again it's too many moving parts to, that but it's
Possible denver goes into that game where they can't, catch
they can't be the one seed and they're not gonna
fall below two or, three and maybe they rest. GUYS
i don't know if they, would but that That charger
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game At, denver it's at least on the, board they're
playing The denver. Backups so they're at seven. Wins if
we give them the win against The, raiders which puts
them at, Eight, Eagles, Chiefs, Cowboys, Texans, broncos if they
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can win two of, those that puts them at. Ten
and again it's not, guaranteed but a a ten Win
chiefs team would not in all likelihood have the tiebreaker
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over a ten Win charger. Team they would if somehow
like one of The chargers losses was to The raiders
instead of The. Eagles but if The chargers get to
ten wins by beating The, raiders The texans And week
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eighteen Against denver and loses to The, Eagles, Chiefs, cowboys
The chiefs don't have that, tiebreaker and that means a
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ten Win charger team would get in Over Kansas. City
so here's And i'm not even gonna GET i know
some people are trying to Force houston into the playoff.
Conversation houston is at five and. Five their next three Are, Bills, Colts. Chiefs,
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obviously if The chiefs lose The texans, game they're probably screwed,
Anyway and if The texans lose The chiefs, game they're.
Screwed So i'm not worried about The. Texans it is
though right, now unless The chargers Or jags really fall,
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apart The chiefs have to go six and one down the.
Stretch that's where we're. At that is the reality of the,
tiebreakers the head to, head the awful loss To jacksonville
that should have never, Happened that is kind of looming
over this season right, now and not being able to
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make plays in the winning moments this. Year crazy stat
From Scott. Kasmar The chiefs the two years full seasons
prior to this, one so the twenty three and twenty four,
seasons they gave up two total third and ten or
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longers on defense in the fourth quarter of one score.
Games they've given up one of those in four of
their five losses this. Year that's how at this point
last year they were nine to one despite scoring fewer
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points per, game allowing more points per, game and having
a worse turnover margin than the team does this. Year
they're not making the plays when it, matters and that's
a huge skill of being a championship football. Team, now
if that's enough doom and, gloom what definitively is true
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is if they are able to rip off six of
the next, seven they will go into the playoffs incredibly
dangerous and with a higher ceiling than last year's. Team
but that means you've got to obviously beat The titans
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and The raiders on the, road beat The cowboys on the.
Road those are your three games against teams with a losing,
record and Then, Colts, Texans, Chargers broncos all at. Home
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you got to go three and one WITH i guess
the game you would like to lose of those the
most would be The broncos. Game and so that's the
spot therein and we'll see how they. Respond it. IS
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i am not going to engage at. All and there
seems to be a very concerted effort from folks in
the media that are Diehard patriot fans to try to
use this ten games Of mahomes's eighth season as Some
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Brady mahomes referendum or Some Chiefs pats dynasty. REFERENDUM i
it's obviously, idiotic and it obviously just recreates history as
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far as what you know the ebbs and flows of
The patriots run actually. Were So i'm not going to
spend time on. That in the first eight years Of
tom they missed the playoffs, twice just flat missed them.
Twice THAT i think that. Is we will see how
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this year, goes and then we can do an accounting
of the, dynasties whether we want to start from one
to eight versus the first eight years For, patrick or
if we want to compare it to their best eight,
years which was eleven to eighteen versus these eight years
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that eleven to eighteen team is the only you know
they made eight straight conference championship. Games The chiefs record
right now is at seven straight at the end of this.
Season we can do a dynasty for dynasty accounting doing
it right now and pretending like By tom's eighth year
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he hadn't already missed the playoffs, twice missed one entire
season due to. Injury uh and only like is just.
Disingenuous but it informed me in a. WAY i didn't
realize that there was a lot of dynastic insecurity potentially
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emanating From New england about what The chiefs could potentially
do to how people view The patch run versus The chiefs.
RUN i didn't view it that. WAY i think The
patch run is one of the greatest things in the
history of the sport and very unique as far as
you view it as three separate eras one to, four
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the ten Year Super bowl drought with the undefeated season
in the middle of, it which is, insane of five to,
thirteen and then the unbelievable run from fourteen to eighteen
on the back. End is that how you view? It
do you view it as one long? Run do you
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like THERE'S i think what The patriots With tom And
bill did is going to be almost impossible to duplicate
as far as the longevity of. It that's separate from
What patrick and The chiefs are. Doing but we'll see
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how this year goes and we can do like a you,
Know Greatest dynasties Ever tale of the. Tape but there
was just a lot of from folks THAT i a
lot of. Chirpin' maybe it's because The patriots are good
this year out Of New. England that feels a touch,
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premature just a, Touch And i'm gonna talk To colin
about it today ON. Tv we're three weeks removed from
The chiefs And patrick both being OVERWHELMING mvp And Super bowl,
favorites and now, listen we are where we. ARE i
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just laid out the scenario where they could miss the.
Playoffs i'm not going to act as if that's not.
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i've been saying all year in a lot of different,
ways remind me so much of last Year's, chiefs the
Defending Super bowl champs that keep winning games and people keep, saying,
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yeah but that win didn't make me feel warm and
fuzzy the WAY i wanted. To but they keep winning
and even also as an added, bonus some controversial officiating
mixed in as well that people get upset. About to be,
clear it obviously was a BAD dpi call that Ended Eagles.
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Lions but also to be, clear anyone that watched that
game and thought If Jared goff got the ball there
The lions were gonna go score is being. Disingenuous That
eagles defense dominated The lions up front the whole. Game
so here are my biggest takeaways From Sunday night. Football
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start with The lions quickly that if that offensive line
doesn't start playing, better they are going to be in
trouble against the best d lines And Jared goff can't sustain.
That and The, lions who look so fast and so,
dynamic indoors their path now right now they you, Know
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Lions chiefs hold, On, Lions, Chiefs, Ravens texans all on
the outside looking in of the playoffs right. NOW i
don't know. Why oh that's WHAT i was, Thinking lions Chief, Sorry, Chiefs,
Ravens texans along with The bills have been the final
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four in THE afc to the last two, years three
of the four on the outside looking, in But, Lions, Chiefs,
ravens three of the Five Super bowl favorites going into
the year right, now all on the outside looking in
on the, playoffs but that's not The lion's. Path now
potentially being on the road with what is all of a,
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sudden a good but not dominant offensive, line that is
concerning for. Them The eagles defense got, healthy Added Jalen,
phillips and now after being a major question mark to
me early in the, year is the strength of their.
Team the criticisms about the offense are. Fair the offense
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has been. Bad saquan is not, Explosive Jalen hurts SEEMS
i don't want to say, afraid but overly cautious or
hesitant to throw the ball unless it's wide open or
third and forever and he has no. Choice all of
that is really. Concerning and then you add to It
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Lane johnson being out for what is being called four
to six, weeks WHICH i don't know if you can,
trust that is super concerning. Them scoring twenty six points
in their last two games is. Problematic with that said
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that they have the division locked up, already they have
plenty of time to hopefully Get Lane johnson back before the,
playoffs and with how tough the rams remaining schedule is
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and The bucks going on this little losing, streak it
sure feels Like philly is pretty well positioned to be
the one, seed have the playoffs go through the link
and the offensive, struggles be damned that defense In january playoff,
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Games you've got to like their. Chances So i'm not
going to act like the offense hasn't been, problematic BUT
i am going to acknowledge THAT i do think winning
is a. SKILL i Think philly has such a, deep
talented roster they can overcome a totally anemic. Offense and
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if they get the one seed and they're at home
resting while The rams is the two, seed potentially have
a wild card weekend playoff game of you, know Green
bay coming to. Town that doesn't sound. Fun So philly's
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positioned themselves really well by winning these, games even if
they're winning. Ugly The jalen hasn't been very. Good the
offense has not been. Good it has not mattered a
quarterback who has been good As Josh allen and, LISTEN
i am used to The Josh allen media, narrative which,
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is if he plays poorly or they, lose we kill the.
Roster and when he plays like he Did, sunday he's
THE mvp and the best player in the. League i'm
used to. It we've been doing it for five. Years
i'm fine with. It what they Did sunday is What
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i've been encouraging them to do all. Year and you
may be, like, oh you encourage them to score forty. Points,
no What i'm saying is the dink and dunk ball
control run the Ball bill's offense does not work with
A bill's defense as bad as this. One so instead
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you have to full on Unleash Josh. Allen you're going
to get a few of those just idiotic, turnovers like
the two handed chest pas out of his own end,
zone which was just absolutely. Bananas you're gonna get, that
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and you just gotta deal with, it just the cost
to doing, business because it's it unleashes, him and that
version Of josh is as scary as any player in the.
League and so that's where AND i argued With wild's
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about this. Yesterday he he thinks The bills have no real,
shot AND i just disagree with. Him they they are,
far you, know far from a perfect. Team but when
you Let josh just go sorry for the cringe, here
the full, yolo they can beat. Anybody and my, bucks
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that's a game you could have. Stolen AND i gotta tell,
YOU I i really Thought Todd bowles made a big.
Mistake so here's what The bills had done in this.
Game here's what their drives. Were, interception, touchdown, touchdown, interception,
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touchdown a three and out where they went three and
out Because, josh while scrambling through a twelve yards pass
the line of, screamage tried the lateral but threw it,
forward so lost it. Down they had to. Punt they
then muffed their own punt so they didn't get a
possession field, goal, touchdown. Touchdown and in that, moment When
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tampa has stopped The bills once the entire game without
forcing a, turnover they have forced one punt the whole.
Game it is the fourth, quarter there is seven and
a half minutes, left you're down, five you have a
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fourth and, two And Todd bowles punted it. Away AND
i hated it so much, because not, surprisingly The bills
respond eight, plays eighty five yards just immediate, touchdown and
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it ended the. Game and so The bucks, LISTEN i,
THINK i still think The bucks are really good and
six and, four given the end, injuries there's no shame
in that losing the last two games the way they did,
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though test against The, patriots they don't take the lead
early and then The patriots kind of dominate them the
rest of the. Way and then A bills game where
they had plenty of opportunities and they they couldn't get
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over the finish. Line now they go to The rams
and this stretch we sat all. Year they can go
one and two in this, Stretch oho and three would be.
Rough so huge game against The rams for my. Bucks
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Plan all, right let me get to a few like
the other games in some quick hit or. Fashion So
Rams seahawks was a unique one BECAUSE i actually came
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away even more impressed with The seahawks. Defense. UH i,
know The rams are the defense that forced the four,
turnovers but the fact That darnold could not stop turning
the ball over and The seahawks defense kept The seahawks
in this, GAME i thought was. Remarkable right, now The
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rams do look like the most complete team in THE,
nfl and it definitely About excuse, me would not surprise
me if The rams make The Super. Bowl you guys
know how Much i've liked this see in the last
couple of, years and how MUCH i Like, stafford And
(59:17):
stafford's still the CLEAR mvp. Favorite but The seahawks are for,
real which is why it's a shame that we are
now getting a growing volume of evidence That darnald in
big spots just plays his worst ball. Man and that's
(59:39):
a shame because he's played so well for the last two.
Years but his bad games in big spots are not, like,
ah he wasn't that. Good they're. Meltdowns and that is
if you're A seahawks, fan that's gonna Have you're gonna
(01:00:01):
have a little pit in your stomach the rest of
the year worrying about. That the other games From week,
eleven The patriots blows blow out The jets ON i
don't even know if they call blow. Out The patriots
beat The jets On Thursday night. Football The jets are
now benching justin. Fields that game was. Gross The dolphins
(01:00:21):
beat The commanders sixteen thirteen in an even grosser football
game Where mike. McDaniel i but some of the game
management stuff at the end of that, game like not
kicking a field goal in the final minutes of a
tie game Against Marcus, MARIOTA i just don't. Understand And
(01:00:45):
i'm typically aggressive by, nature but you you're not a
power running. Team you're Playing. Mariota they ended up winning,
Anyway but my, God Miami packers beat The giants twenty
seven to twenty and a game that it feels like
If Jackson dart were playing The giants maybe could have.
STOLEN i don't think you watched that game and feel
(01:01:05):
great about The. Packers bears beat The vikings nineteen seventeen
to go to first place in the, division another final
second comeback that they should not have. Needed you're up
sixteen to three ON jj McCarthy in the fourth quarter
and you almost blow it and. Listen credit to The
bears for getting to seven. Wins that was an ugly
(01:01:26):
one lot of, ugly close but ugly. Football this, Weekend
texans beat The titans sixteen thirteen and Cam ward had
one great. Drive The titans are just a total. Mess
texans defense unbelievable offense seems like With stroud Or Davis.
Mills it's just capted around sixteen seventeen. Points Bryce young
(01:01:49):
plays the game of his life in The pros four
hundred and some yards as The panthers stay right in
the thick of the playoff, race get to six and,
five beating The falcons in. Overtime brutal loss for The
falcons and bigger Loss pinnicks out for the. Year and
remember The falcons don't have their first round pick because
(01:02:12):
they traded it to The. Rams that might end up
being the six to seventh pick of the. Draft steelers
beat The bengals thanks to a bunch of defensive. Scorers
rogers has a small fracture in his left, wrist but
he wants to. Play will monitor. THAT i don't think
there's a huge difference right now Between rogers And, rudolph
(01:02:34):
but The, steelers you, know keep The ravens At bay for,
now and The niners beat The cardinals and one of
the most bizarre football games ever played Where Jacoby brissett
now has the all TIME nfl record for completions in
a game with forty. Seven But purdy comes back in looks,
great and The niners get to seven wins and they
(01:02:57):
stay right in the thick of the playoff hunt Uh
jason Asks nick at the end of the, season where
DO i Think, Jackson smith And jig will be viewed
in terms of top receivers in the? League top? Three
somewhere in the top three along With Justin jefferson And Jamar.
Chase rough weeks for those. Guys by the, Way Justin
(01:03:19):
jefferson having a down year In Jamar chase spitting on
A Jalen ramsey t, asked do you think it's a
coincidence that bron is choosing to come back with almost
exactly sixty five games? Remaining, NO, i, well, YES i
do think it's a, Coincidence and, NO i, LISTEN i
don't think he's gonna be. Eligible so What tea is
(01:03:41):
implying is that you Know lebron is giving himself the
chance to make the sixty five game. THRESHOLD i would
be shocked because he's missed fourteen the most you can
miss his. SEVENTEEN i would be shocked If lebron only
(01:04:02):
sits three games the rest of the. Year first of,
all he has to in year twenty three stay fully
healthy the rest of the, year and then they also
have to not rest him ever really except for three.
Games so, NO i think that The ALL nba, streak
which is at what is it? At twenty two? Straight
twenty one straight? Seasons this is your twenty three he's
(01:04:26):
made The ALL nba team. Ever, yeah so twenty one
straight years of being An ALL nba player that is
not dead but certainly on life support For bron with
only three games played with AND i just don't think
HE'S i think he's GONNA i think he's probably gonna
play closer to fifty five than sixty five games this.
(01:04:48):
Year for those of you wondering twenty One ALL nba,
teams what's second? Most, Duncan kareem And kobe tied for
the second most with fifteen. Each jay, says is it
on the board that Browns Kevin stefanski do not know
how to develop quarterbacks and is he's still getting too
(01:05:08):
much grace out of that coach of the year and
the greatness Of Miles. GARRETT i don't understand at all the.
UH i don't understand at all The Kevin Stefanski Andrew
berry love that team has Been Miles garrett's unbelievable defense
is really. Good they can't win, games and they've been
(01:05:28):
there for a long time and they have absolutely year
after year botched the quarterback. Situation so, NO I i
don't understand their job. Security like great subscriber review to the,
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