Best of the Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon

Jason and Mike react to the Knicks losing Game 3 to the Pacers. Why Andrew Nembhard’s game-winning shot should be the new Eighth Wonder of the World. Plus, why the Bears making Caleb Williams the starter in Chicago is a brilliant move!  

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:21):
This is the.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Best of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon on
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Shut Cluck down to eighth Haliverton double Team.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Shut Cluck at court them. Mart's gotta put it up,
step back.

Speaker 4 (00:39):
His three quarters, the three down, time out, next stem up.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Even he looks surprised he hit the shot. What are
you gonna do a game? I thought the Knicks are
gonna lose by twenty. They should have won too many
offensive rebounds, too many misfree throws, and still they needed
nemhard to make a knee knocking shot where he didn't
think it was going in. The smile on his face
like they told him he was just won, mister America.

(01:07):
They were putting the crown on his head. He's like,
can you believe I just made this? Shot. What are
you gonna do? What are you gonna do? Pacers win games? America?
How there should be if they do?

Speaker 5 (01:16):
Miss I know mister Olympia and wait and all bodybuilding?
Is anybody nicknamed mister America. I don't know Captain America
is coming back a yeah, but we know we have
a captain. But like, mister, like, is mister America thing?
Because like I think that could be a thing. No,
there's not, but that's what you look like me. I
could be mister America. The look on his face is,

(01:39):
of course there's mister America. Who's mister America. What's mister America?

Speaker 6 (01:42):
When you live the bodybuilding champions, mister America?

Speaker 4 (01:45):
He is?

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Okay, all right? So it's sometimes made me want to raffle.
Then that's what it is.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
You want a big body building raffle, I think, Ronald, No,
that's mister Olympia. That's what Harmon's taught. That's why mister
America is a thing. Okay, it is a thing started
in nineteen thirty nine, but it's not on TV.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
I haven't heard anything.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
There's no yeah, I haven't heard that term in a
while though.

Speaker 5 (02:12):
Mister America, I don't think I've ever heard what do
you mister America?

Speaker 1 (02:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
You guys gotta get out more there. I no know
I had did Joe Weader books and everything.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Growing up. It was always, you know, the quest was
from mister Olympia. Come on, man, I just witnessed an
absolute miracle tonight with the Pacers making that shot by
Nembard with fifteen seconds left in the game. Man, you shot,
You say there as a miracle? Hali Marton double team
shot clock at four.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
The Mart's gotta put it up, step back, there's three pointers,
time out seasons.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Over All I need is a miracle. All I need
it is what are you gonna do?

Speaker 4 (02:56):
What do you do?

Speaker 1 (02:57):
The big possession of the Knicks Pacers game, it's tied,
is twelve seconds left. The Knicks do everything they wanted
to do. Haliburton picks up his dribble. He's not getting
the ball back. Nem Harden wants nothing to do with this,
but he has no choice because he has the ball
and the shot clock is ticking down, and he's five
feet behind the three point line and he makes a
three and I mean it. His face looked like someone

(03:17):
said you and.

Speaker 5 (03:18):
The winner of the fifty to fifty raffle and it's
gonna take on the brand new bicycle is Andrew Dembard. Congratulations,
it's a guy that won.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
The random shot the other day. Congratulations, Siman. You look
like a big shot contest winner.

Speaker 6 (03:33):
In the end.

Speaker 5 (03:34):
Is what is kind of entertaining is if you look
at the shot chart for the fourth quarter for both squads,
it's just a bunch of empty circles, no shot making whatsoever. Right,
Jalen Brunson when he hit that big three that was
their fourth make of the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah, well, look there's a reason and I'm going and
I'm gonna submit this electronic. They we're tripping over their tongues.
There were seventy eight non calls on the pacers just
in the final four minutes of this. There was a
great clear out where they were Hartenstein. There were fourteen
fouls by Siakaman one play that were not called fourteen.

(04:09):
I'm gonna submit this to the end. I mean, look
at you.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
If it's only gonna cost you thirty five grand, I
think it's one thirty five grand win.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
I gotta submit this out. I mean I counted them,
I got there's one there's another one. There's another one.
There's another one. There's another one.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
Now I'm obsessing over mister an America is really bothering me.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
But keep going, Jason.

Speaker 6 (04:27):
There's only one play that mattered from tonight though.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
What's the one play for Rosburg?

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Shut clucked down? Calli marton, double team shut cluck at
court them mart gotta put it up, step back.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
There's three quarters, knock tied out.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
You're playing this like it's the butt fumble. The guy
made a mirror. You lost to a bunch of nobody.
There's no the patiently nobody. We lost to nobody's we
played dude, hold on, hold on, you did actually have
twenty You outscored them. Run the bench, Alec burks all
of a sudden, Hey, we're gonna dust you off and
you're gonna play some minutes. We didn't quite see that. Look,

(05:08):
I mean, yeah, you got twenty four points off the bench.
Look I'm fine. I'm not going to complain about the
officials or any calls it did. It didn't happen, because,
you know what, the Knick should have won this game.
I thought it was altogether awful. They missed free throws
down the stretch, right, Bruntson missed a big one. Josh
Hart missed a big one. How many offensive rebounds for
the Pacers on their final two possessions. Way too many? Right,
That's why thirteen for the game. When when you give

(05:30):
a guy enough chances you can even get a miracle.
The backtaps and all of that.

Speaker 5 (05:34):
I mean, Haliburton had the ball, gets it off to Hart,
who I don't think he had any clue how much
time was left on the shot. I look at what
Haliburton picked up at the top of the key. Yeah,
I know it was done. There was no offensive sets say, wow,
we're gonna Kick're gonna get the ball back here with
the chance to win the game in regulation, but he
makes it.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
What are you gonna do? I mean Brunton's decisions, brunts.
But this is a game the Nick should have lost
by twenty. The Pacers should have won this one going away.
Should have sat there guys in the fourth quarter who
looked more tired the next of the Pacers. The Pacers did.
The Knicks were playing a couple more guys off the bench,
and it comes down to the end and they should

(06:15):
have won, and they didn't. And you needed a miracle
shot to win, to proof that there are miracles that
still happen. Maybe that's the ninth wonder in the world, right,
King Kong is the eighth wonder, Pyramids of the seventh Wonder.
And Andrew m hard shot the ninth wonder of the
world that he makes that shot that he wanted absolutely
no part of. And the Pacers win. We I did
they won? They won. It's still a series. But they

(06:38):
walk out a walk away from this and going, oh, yeah,
we want to feel great. You want to feel great, dude,
you really this is a game that you should have
blown the knicks out of the water on and still
you almost lost it, and you should have lost it.
Congratulate your coach all the complaining he did. You got
calls you wanted. You had a foul call overturned in
the final minute, there was a pretty big call you got.
You got everything, and you won. It's all They won.

(07:01):
It's a series. Okay, we'll see you on Sunday. Well,
we'll get ready for game We'll get ready for Game four.
I told you, I fully expect this to go back
to New York. Tied it to a piece. The Pacers
are good and here and I'll put my money where
my mouth is if I'm going to tell you Rick
Carlisle is ridiculous for complaining about the officials. I'm not
going to complain about any call that was or wasn't
made the end of this game, because you know what
I look at. I think of the two miss free throws,

(07:22):
the offensive rebounds, and Nembard's miracle three. That's what lost
the game. It's still complaint. It's normal radio. It's Friday
night ahead of the weekend, the Chambers. I'm otherwise you're
going to carry that back to your family.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
No, No, you got to leave it here on the air,
with your online family all across this globe and the
iHeartRadio app and your family here in the studio.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
I am true to myself and and and that's because
that's honestly how I feel. I'm not going to look
at one call like the Pacers and go, oh still,
we'd be up three nothing if they called the kickball
in game one. No, that's not what the confusing one
still is. The was evolved. Did he tap it out?
About the thing where they call the jump ball like that?

Speaker 5 (08:02):
That review took forever, and in the end, I don't
think anybody really was clear and evaluate.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
The Nick's got the ball, so I mean it really
it did end up winning the tag and it move.
None of that mattered this. This is what happens in
a game. I tipped my hat to the Pacers in
a game they had to win. They gutted it out.
I'm more proud of the Knicks because this is a
game they could have folded. And you can see that
they have the better hand and the better amount of play.
They are coach better, they pick things up better. Their players,

(08:31):
even though they're playing more minutes, are better, more well conditioned.
Maybe now Josh Hart can't sit out at all. Maybe
you got to play them all forty eight minutes. Come on,
so what had to happen? Can't sit them out now?
But look, they lost, they lost, they lost, and the
Pacers made a miracle shot. What am I gonna do?
That's how it goes. No congratulations, they won and it's
two to one and it's a series. Okay.

Speaker 5 (08:49):
The physicality was off the charts, and so this is
one of those in terms of how many whistles you're
gonna swallow over the course of the game when you
got bodies flying everywhere, even on the broadcast, and kind
of like, all right, they're gonna have to try to
find that that line of demarcation of what's just good
physical contact this is, you know, because it came out

(09:10):
that the Knicks had more or less through every back
channel they could lodge their complaint. Now, no word as
to whether they had seventy eight calls mixed therein, but
certainly I'm still going to send that to the But
they still they clearly went out of their way because
you saw this from all of the the would be
uh experts in the punditry of the NBA saying, well,

(09:33):
through back channels, they're they're complaining about the contact that
Jalen Brunson takes on each play. It's like, you know what,
he initiates about eighty percent of it. So I don't know,
I don't how much weight that holds. But that's fine,
and it's it's better than wasting your night instead of
sleeping or watching a Broadway plane evaluating the seventy eighth

(09:53):
call that.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Didn't go your way.

Speaker 5 (09:54):
Just say, in general, hey, Jalen Brunson's getting his ass
kicked down there. He needs a little more consideration. Because
he's a superstar. Look, I'll tell you what I saw tonight.
I see, here's what I saw tonight, And I am stunned.
The officials let Tyrese Halliburton dribble the ball too forcefully
down court like he was. He really dribbled like he
meant to get down court.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
And you can't allow him to do that. Well, he
was trying to get down court, he was trying to burrow.
They allowed him to get close to the basket for layups.
When you come on, man, you can't get that close
and not blow the up. You can't let that.

Speaker 5 (10:27):
I mean, I'm watching every time, but there's a layup
for Haliburt. How do the officials let that happen? How
do the officials let more or less? And Tibodeau was
on the sideline yelling, how does he get a layup? No? Yeah,
they don't give up layups. I mean, I mean how
does he how? I mean, I don't understand. You don't
have that many fouls to give understand have that deeper rotation.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
I mean, I don't get it. I don't get I mean,
Pascal Siakam really and and the thing with Pascal Siakam
all game holding the ball up high in the post
so nobody could grab it out of his hand. How
do the referees not call that? I really have a
referee not call that. I don't know a law. I
don't get it. I don't get it.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
Your guy, Josh Hart another eighteen point effort. He did
only play forty three minutes.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Though, Yeah, slacker, maybe he's tied slackerte Vigenzo thirty five.
He was absurd. Referees yelling wial Hart and Brunson are
shooting free throws. You saw the one that Josh Hart missed.
The referee went right when he shot and screwed him up.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
I mean, you can't do that.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
I did not see that on the take. All right,
enumerate all of that, but you know I would be remiss.

Speaker 5 (11:23):
But we didn't put a bow on it because back
in the day, I mean you did had Ken Waller,
Mike Katz and Corny lou Ferigno all were mister America.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
But it goes back to seventy three.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
That's when it was in its heyday sixties, and then
it disappeared like it got carved up into different federations
and who owned the rights or whatever, like because I
don't recognize any of the names past, like seventy seventy
three with Lou Ferigno. Yeah, there's a couple of guys
from like nineteen seventy with the other Federation when they
were fighting over the name. Pretty crazy stuff, wild times

(11:58):
in the body building world.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
You're a great story, yeah, because.

Speaker 5 (12:02):
It all comes back with the pumping iron, right, it's
like all of these guys that were part of that
movie in college. In college, there was a guy in
the dining hall. I think we were juniors, as seniors
maybe juniors, and he looked like Louf Forigno, my roommate
and I was my best friend.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
We all thought he looked like lu Forigno. Okay, there's
Lou for Regno, here's so was he green? None? He
looked like Lou Forigno.

Speaker 5 (12:25):
Right.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
So one time we went to a late dinner after
a happy hour, so you know we're all feeling it, right,
there's a whole bunch of us at the table. We're like, oh,
there's that dude. It looks like Loude looks like looked
like Lou Forrigno. So we were dare at each other.
You're drunk. So we were daring. No, I don't know
how drunk I was. Drunk.

Speaker 5 (12:41):
I was still I was because I was still coming
up with the ideas like we were, we were doing
the whole, we were playing the whole.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
I dare you right? Okay, So I go to this guy, said, okay,
you're there. I'm gonna write something down on a piece
of paper and you have to do it. And the
guy's on and come on, I'll do it. To rub
it a piece of paper. You walk up to the
guy that I tell you to and you ask him,
when you're not angry, do you look like Bill Bixby?
So that's why I write it the piece of paper?

(13:06):
And he goes, all right, what's dude? That guy right there,
and we're always in big dudes. Ears are coming out
of her eyes because we know he's gonna do it right,
and he he just walks up to him and we
just see him say something and the and the guy
that looks like Lou Forigno just looked at him and
like huh. And then the guy walked away back table laughing.
The guy was like, he hain't no idea what I'm going.

(13:29):
No one's told you you look like lu dude, you
look just like Lou for Rigno. But I mean, I'm
hoping that he delivered the line right because he could have,
you know, a butcher in an altered state. But like,
when you're not angry, do you look like Bill Bixby.
I was so proud of that that Bill.

Speaker 5 (13:44):
Bixby part of it might have been the thing that
threw him though, oh man, that might be well I
might have been. But if you've if people have told
you you look like Lou Forigno, you know, you know
who Bill Bixby is?

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Not necessarily sure? You do? What else do people who
know Lou Frignan, he was TV's incredible hulk and then
mister Amy Bill Bill Bixby turned into the credit You know,
if you know Lufarigno, you know Bill bix was Bill Mixby.
Ever on the Battle of the Network show, We're gonna
say Bill Boi back.

Speaker 5 (14:10):
And they've had a number of deaths in the Lord
of the Rings world, will bring up why do you
do this?

Speaker 7 (14:17):
No?

Speaker 1 (14:17):
But that the b because I'm not a Lord of
the Rings DIY, but it signs and why but people
have died, so I'm gonna talk about it.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
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he saw Now I just have it in and we
have big news coming in a now. Uh, that shot
by Andrew Nemhard has now replaced the Grand Canyon as
the eighth Wonder of the world. About that, I mean,
really it's kind of a big I was I was surprised,

(17:11):
but it's already the eighth wonder because what was he
won for seven for the night, I had two points
on the game. I'm just gonna chuck it up and oh,
look at a miracle. I'm going to play the lottery.
I didn't any just full on swish, rushing, go ahead,
better the shot or Mike Breen's call Man, Mike Breens
calls are always great. Now this one is epic. Yeah,
well it's great because you're wearing it well.

Speaker 5 (17:32):
And he's I mean generally, isn't he not a Knicks fan?
He's guy right, But that's being a pro right, that's
you know, he's called the one and this is the
greatest highlight he's ever called. If the pacers beating the
next I want to I want to let you know
Early Frostburg here tonight.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
It's good. You gotta talk louds. It's hard for me
to hear because I'm all the way up here in
the playoffs. Well, you're all the way down out of
the playoffs, so it's hard for me to hear you
all the.

Speaker 5 (17:57):
Way way down there staring at my seventy down I'm
not staring at any banners. I really thought you were
going to end that sentence differently, and I had my
hand on the plunger.

Speaker 6 (18:06):
Oh it's too early.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
I'm all the way up here in the play you're
all the way down here, not in the playoffs. I'm
all the way up here with a head coach. You're
all the way down here without a head coach. One
more Yeah, and you got Doc Rivers on the way,
how about that. You want to talk about going loan
to play me one on.

Speaker 6 (18:25):
You want to play me one on one over the line,
Doc Rivers.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
Wow, that's a full swinging neck breaker on Friday night
right there. Boy.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Oh I did not see that coming. Oh no, No,
that was a sneak attack right there. And I'm pretty
sure I'm seeing voting right now? Is actually I'm seeing
live voting? Uh nem hard shot. Could actually pass the
hanging Gardens of Babylonia. Really, I could get past that.
It could have anybody.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
Really remember the hanging Gardens And remember I remember in
seventh grade history hearing about that.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Okay, and it could they say, depending on how voting goes,
it could be neck and neck with the Pyramids for
being for me getting even higher as the wonder of
the world. So there's that. Just think about that for
a second.

Speaker 5 (19:08):
Yeah, I mean we know that King Tutt moved to Babylonia, Yes,
yes he did.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
And I don't remember the hanging gardens, And uh, who
is it David Gray did Babylon, right, was it?

Speaker 4 (19:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (19:20):
I say, you know what I want.

Speaker 5 (19:27):
I want a singer songwriter who is a little bit
older that just gives me a song that I can,
you know, just kind of jam out too, because I'm
forty and I don't want to really look like I'm
still listening to hair metal because I don't know, maybe
this is not my thing, but I want I want
women to think I'm cool.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
So I listened to go to the David Gray concert.
You want to go with me? See David Gray.

Speaker 6 (19:44):
I always thought the eighth wondering world to you was
the ballped at McDonald's.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Oh no, that's like the second wonder. That's the second.
The giants up higher, that's up under the giant was
the eighth wonder for a long time. The Grand Canyon
all the Astrodome, right wonder for a while, King Kong.

Speaker 5 (19:59):
When Bad News Bears Bears played there, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that was bad two or three?

Speaker 1 (20:04):
I think, No, which one would they go to they
go to Japan? Oh did they go to Japan? First
they go to no breaking training, it was it the
hang on. No, they play in the astroom was the
second one, when they play in the astrodome, right, then
they go to Japan. Breaking training was second. Okay, that's
in the astrodome and then Japan. Then Japan was there,

(20:26):
but at that time they replaced like Walter math that
was done. I think like Alan Thick was the was
the coach talking that is the well, I mean he
was Walter Math.

Speaker 5 (20:38):
I was in that.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Sad.

Speaker 6 (20:41):
I thought the Mahall was like the eighth Wonder.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
No, that's that's up higher, like you have to pass
the taj mah uh Man. No, I don't think so.
Most of the eighth Wonders are all of the Greek
and Roman architecture and the pyramids and and Egypt and
and we're going way back in time. I mean, if
you could pass the head gardens of Babylonia, that's pretty cool.
I've heard people say the coliseum was an eighth wonder coliseum. Yeah,

(21:05):
you mean the Los Angeles Coliseum of the San Diego
colisse M's hit.

Speaker 5 (21:09):
They say Qualcomm was the eighth Wonder. Oh, the Colisseum
where the Clippers played, because you could walk into the
You could walk into Qualcomm in twenty fifteen, campus man,
and it was nineteen eighty seven. I go back in
time when I go to quit. Just remember the last
Super Bowl that they hosted. You couldn't park anywhere near
the stadium because they needed the Generators.

Speaker 6 (21:28):
Yeah, I don't tell Jason Qualcomb's not there anymore.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
No, when it was Qualcomm, this is when it was.
We took a Jets Chargers game. I was a yeah
that was Was it really a game? Was it like
forty five to nothing?

Speaker 6 (21:40):
I think you guys crossed half field in the in
the midfield, in the fourth court.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Wit I went to a game where we never did
that for the Bears.

Speaker 5 (21:46):
I don't know Jerry Rice's final home game is I
congratulations Terrell Owens got twenty pass?

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. Jerry Rice was not
a happy on Jerry Rice day.

Speaker 5 (21:56):
Tarall Owens was Kate mcdown and the Bears offense did
not as midfield. I still have the flip book they
gave me and my tickets still.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Man, well listen, I did before I tell you about
who's got to wear the goat horns for the nixt
I am happy for Andrew Nemhard because now, no matter
what happens in his career, he can go to autograph
shows and and and and sign that three pointer for
twenty five bucks the rest of his life. Man, hey,
you want to sign that three here? You go right
here here, you go right here? Do you want to
see inscription? I'm the new Reggie Miller. Hey, okay, what

(22:28):
do you want? What do you want me to write?
Just I'll just sign twenty five bucks. Here you go,
just him getting the ball and looking so nervous before
he shot it, and then it goes in and just
to look, ah, I can't believe it. One congratulate when
you make a miracle shot like that. Hey, that's great,
that's great.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
All it was.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
All you're doing though right now, is you're really diminishing
him to a nothing.

Speaker 5 (22:48):
What I'm saying, look he did it was a bad
play by the by the pacers, everything they want down.
That's where the old saying goes. It's better be lucky
than good. You know what, there's a lot less effort
involved with being lucky.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
That is true. That is true.

Speaker 5 (23:04):
My uncle always said everyone else, look, you want to
work hard, and that's all funny, good, But it's better
to be lucky than good.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Just be remembered. Just remember that. Look, the Knicks got
everything they wanted. He did not want to take the shot,
but he had to. And I bet you, I bet
you asked him, Hey, what happened on that last play.
He would say, Oh, I've been dude, I blacked out.
I have no idea. I have no idea. Man, I
don't know what happened. I know he's rolling the world.
I couldn't even tell you. I don't even know. I
don't even know what I guarantee you. It's a lucky shot.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
What can you do?

Speaker 1 (23:32):
But look, and this happens once in a while, and
I've seen it in the playoffs. But the guy who's
got to really wear a little bit, wear the goat
horns for the final few minutes and it's stunning. Is
Jalen bruns sure? Because you know, yes, he missed a
big free throw, but it's still a game. When you're
down three with fifteen second or twelve and a half,
fifteen seconds left, you go down. They would have allowed

(23:55):
him to get to the rack and get a quick two.
The Knicks would have to foul and put the Pacers
at a free throw line, right, They would have allowed
Brunson to do that, But instead he gets caught up
with trying to take a really bad three, and the
Pacers make a great decision. They lay off him and
Brunson tries to draw the foul and he complains after
that he got hit, and I'll be.

Speaker 5 (24:13):
Honest, well he did not get well, he got swiped
before the shot, but you could have called it on
the ground if you if you were going to call
that foul like he can complained to that, but it
was not the old Magic Johnson continuation, no, no, no,
And he.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Goes up and throws up an awkward three that he
thought he was going to get a foul call on.
And that's the game right there, and I'm saying, that's
a horrible decision. I'm sorry, that's a Lebron James. Horrible
decision by brunts. I get the heat check. I get
you're taking the James. You're going to give him a
little sign him a shot because I didn't even get

(24:49):
on Twitter yet. But look, because because the play there
is to get to the hoop. They had three guys
out on you just keep going to the hoop. They're
not going to foul you and put you on the
free throw.

Speaker 5 (24:57):
Absolutely So, now it's a one point game with ten
seconds left, you're fouling and then you're going for a
three if you have to, or go for two if
the Pacers missed.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Pacers. I've been hadn't been making a lot of three
free throw so far in the series, and they clearly
were bamboozled and discombobulated that last possession. So are they
gonna be able to get the ball to Haliburton or
who they want to get the ball to. Maybe not.
So the potential there to win the game was still there.
But Brunson decides on an all or nothing play where
he's off balance and doesn't even draw iron. Like that's

(25:27):
a horrible mistake, man, Like, if you look at the
two worst things in the last minute, you know, for
the Knicks, and say, okay, what happened because they had
they had the game. Brunson missing the free throw and
that was a horrendous decision. I mean, it was bad.
And I've seen him make bad decisions before. And it
looks like like he gets something in his head and
he says, I'm gonna do this, and it turns out
to me because it's telegraphed and the other team knows

(25:49):
it's coming. Like when he gets in his head, I'm
going to make this pass and it's like, okay, everybody
knows in the world you're making this pass, and the
other team is allowed to get in the middle and
turn it over. He's had a couple of those moments
this series, and it happens to him at times. I
did not think it was gonna happen in the last
moment there, I'm like, Okay, this is where the Knicks
have app grace under pressure, they get they extend the game. Right,
You're extending the game because you're gonna get in, get

(26:10):
a hoop, make them make a free throw, get down,
do what you can do it. Maybe you're shooting a
two to tie the game, or you at that point
you can shoot a three. But I'm always a big
fan of extending the game, and Brunson decided we're not
gonna do that when clearly they with three guys out
on the perimeter, they would have allowed Brunson a clear
path of the hoop.

Speaker 5 (26:28):
So yeah, So if you're looking for, hey, who really
came up short? Who's to blame the final minute? I
can't believe I'm saying it, but it's Jalen Brunson who
had a bad last minute.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (26:37):
I mean it. As a squad, they had an awful
fourth quarter. The shooting was miserable, just four makes, and
for Brunson in that moment though I would excuse it,
explain it however you want to say it. Here, you
getting you've drawn contact every time you've touched the ball,
so you're anticipating, no matter where you are on the court,

(26:58):
at least someone's gonna come and body you up, which
it didn't. They kind of gotten his way as obstacles
more than anything else. And then you have the one
swipe towards the arm. The other is you've been living
right man. Everything you've thrown up in this series and
in the series last has gone your way. So it
becomes the Hey, if I put it anywhere near the net,

(27:20):
I'm getting he's gotten The shooters touch a couple of times, right, Oh,
that looks off.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Bounce, bounce down like all of that. So if you're
Jalen bruntson and three against the Sixers, that that took
the series. If that bounces, if that bounces, that may
not win, but.

Speaker 5 (27:36):
You keep going all the way down through and it's
basically been and for today, Devincenzo came up huge with
his thirty five points and heart living on the offensive glass.
But when you're bruns in and it's maybe you start
reading your own press clippings.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
How about that.

Speaker 5 (27:53):
Maybe you read the iHeartMedia thing from the Jason Smith Show.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
That could be Hey, right now, Steph Curry's going, that's
a say you wanted to have the ball at the
end of the game and not me. Well, he still
got a shot off, he just didn't make it. I mean,
it happens.

Speaker 5 (28:06):
It happens, and but I'm really surprised that was such
a bad decision. I mean, look, we're watching the game
of the kitchen. I go no, because that's not something
that very unhappy. I mean, that's the strategy of trying
to draw contact, to go to the free throw line,
to shoot three free throws when you just missed one
a few seconds ago, and you and you didn't miss
it good, You missed it front of the room. It

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didn't have a chance on that first one.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
So I don't, I don't. I don't get that.

Speaker 5 (28:32):
But that's a testimony, a testament to his confidence in
himself that he wanted to get right back to the lines.
I'm glad, I'm glad, but what he should have done
it would stop the clock. I'm gonna go eat it.
If he only made two out of three. I mean,
because two out of three ain't bad, like have told
us in this particular gaze, because it would have stopped
the clock and you would have gotten essentially your layup.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah, but that was not the right play, and I
can't I can't believe that's something Tom Thibodeau is not
telling Jalen Breton. Dude, what are you doing?

Speaker 5 (28:57):
Man?

Speaker 1 (28:57):
I mean, I get it, I understand that.

Speaker 5 (28:59):
But what But really, because you had the time out
that brought it into the front court, Yeah, right, so
you didn't.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Have to go there have been three seconds. There would
have been ten seconds left in the game.

Speaker 5 (29:08):
There were three guys up top coming up to swarm him,
and I forget who was up there in that little
cluster with him, but you had a pretty easy driving
lane to the basket.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
There would have been ten seconds left, more than enough
time to foul and get down and get a shot.
Now they were out of timeouts so they couldn't advance
the ball again. But still, Okay, if you're fouling the
pacer with seven seconds left, you got seven seconds to
get the ball up court and get a shot. You
can do that. I mean, you really can do that.
It's it's not that out of the realm of possible.

Speaker 5 (29:37):
But of course at that point there was no guarantee
they were getting a rebound if they needed a rebound
because they were gassed.

Speaker 6 (29:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (29:43):
Again, both teams towards the end of this game, though,
And you look at that again, that fourth quarter shot
clock or shot chart, and it's not all three pointers.
Here's a lot of shots around. They're contested, but the
legs aren't there to go up for the big finish either.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Look but I told you that the biggest things in
this in this game, why the Knicks loss, It's not
I'm not saying anything about this because it's not. It
because the two miss free throws in the final minute
by by Hart and Brunson, the numerous i think five
offensive rebounds the Pacers had in their last two possessions.
But even that, I have to say, they were all
off of threes. So they're all going to be long rebounds,

(30:19):
and that's going to give you a better chance to
always have a better chance at offense rebound when it's
a long three, and the Knicks could so even then,
I'm like, ah, but boy, they could have just gotten
one rebound, it would have flipped the game. And then
of course you have Nembard's miracle shot that that he
didn't want at all, and you said two points in
the entire game, and it's probably gonna be the highlight
of his blue him so much to find a couple

(30:41):
of trading cards that you can burn when his Wikipedia
page is going to be about eight sentences long, and
the second sentence after when he's born, is going to
be best known for making a miracle three for the
Indiana Pacers in Game three of the twenty twenty four
Eastern Conference semifinals. That's already killed this guy's career. You
know he doesn't hit another shot against you with it.

(31:01):
That's a dagger as this series one choice in life,
he made the one best one in his life. I'm
so angry.

Speaker 6 (31:07):
He's already putting James Dolan's face on his body. Sure
he owns the damn Nicks.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Sure he does. Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox
eight seven seven nine nine six sixty three six nine. Look,
Brunson's gotta wear it bad decisions in the final. You
gotta wear it too bad. We're up to one. I'm fine, I.

Speaker 5 (31:23):
Gotta you know what the fine coming off a thread?
He does have the ding Dong latte that he is
going to try, and we'll get to get the reaction.
We'll get to we'll get to King Dantes coming up
in a bit like our guy Tim Conway Jr.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Ding Dong No No, No Harmon. Harmon sent me a
video yesterday saying, Hey, look where I am, And there's
lattes from the grocery store with all different hostess flavors.
There's cupcake and Twinkies and ding Dong and I go
get me a ding Dong ice latte. So he brought
it in and now I'm gonna drown my sorrows in
this next hour on the show. So we're gonna do

(31:57):
That's how you do it. That's how you do roll, man,
That's how I roll on a Friday night. Look Out,
I'm gonna balance my checkbook when I get home. Look Out,
I'm freaking you've never balanced a check book? No, I
don't know.

Speaker 5 (32:09):
My wife always was saying you're bounced Checkmick. Now, how
do you know much money you have? Well, the bank
statement tells me. I kind of look and say, yeah,
that looks about right, and I move on.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
We'll talk to you about what the most overrated storyline
of almost any playoff game. Is that's next? Right here, Jason,
I'm like Fox.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
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Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (32:32):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best
friend Mike Harmon Live from the tire Rag dot Com Studios.
Thirteen seconds ago before halftime, and the Denver Nuggets have
finally shown up yay for this series against the Timberwolves.

Speaker 5 (32:48):
They leaded fifty six to forty one. All it took
was a guy not getting suspended. Yeah, I mean, surprise, surprise.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Uh wait to go, Adam Silver, It's a fifteen. It's
gonna wind up being a fifteen team point lead for
Denver at halftime of this game. Again, a huge, huge
first half for Denver. Jamal Murray, who did not get suspended,
is able to play in this game. And whether you
agree or disagree, you can't deny it's a huge impact
on the game. And now Minnesota has the set, has

(33:17):
halftime to go. What just happened to us? We were
coming into this game to throw the hammer down and
win it. Instead we're down fifteen at halftime, So we'll
have more in this game coming up in a few minutes.
But you know it's funny. Montsi brought this up a
few minutes ago and we talked about Jalen Brunson, you know,
banged up and how he was playing today and Luca,
you know, banged up in the game he had last night.

Speaker 5 (33:37):
But you got got last night when he had that
one sequence, You're like, oh, he's really hurt.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
It's like, nah, you know he stepped back and hit
a three. You know, you jerk.

Speaker 5 (33:47):
I don't know that there's any more overrated storyline in
the NBA Playoffs than player X playing and he's banged
up and hurt.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
Because I really can't. I really have a hard time
believing they're actually injured or they're really hurt and they
didn't just tweak something for a second, Because there's no way.
If Luka Doncic is limping like he was limping last night,
he should have been able to play right. There's no way.
If Jalen Brunson is nicked up as he is, he
shouldn't be able to do what he can do controlling

(34:18):
the ball up and down the floor. There's no way.
If you're hurt, you can't play this way in the NBA,
you just.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
Can't well you can do what some podcasters of note
two and just start speculating that everybody's juiced up, you know.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
I mean, look, you know historical figures and look at
you haven't even like politicians. I think FDR was on steroids.
He was president for three terms. Come on, man, you
know he was on something. But like even Joel embiid
round one, look at him beat on one leg. Yeah, okay,
the dude on one leg shouldn't be able to score
thirty nine points, right.

Speaker 5 (34:49):
So it's a couple of things, and I think it's
probably a combination of two things for star players who
were showing, oh, I'm injured, I'm injured. One, it's part
of the strategy of game where if you're injured, the
other team doesn't quite know what you're capable of. All
this guy can't this guy can't blow by me because
he's hurt. So you play him a little closer defensively,

(35:10):
and then he blows by you. It's like, well, okay,
so I'll just speed to do that. So it's some
kind of a strategical advantage that you get if another
team thinks you're hurt, What can you do?

Speaker 1 (35:20):
What can't you do? Suddenly become a wildcard. And then
the other part of it is, I think a lot
of stars know that if we lose or or for
whatever reason, if I'm injured, if I look like I'm hurt,
no one's gonna criticize me. It's gonna be what do
you want from the guy. Guy's playing on one leg,
guy's playing with one arm. The guy's playing without a head.
The guy's playing with no toes. He lost four toes
in the second quarter, and still look at him. Stop

(35:40):
slide step three, he makes it, I mean, and especially
hit me watching Luca last night, where going down the court,
it looks like he's got to come out of the game.
Next time down the court, slidestep step back three. Okay,
all right, he's looking, but he's okay. Then back down
the court. Doesn't move on defense, Oh he can't move
it all. He's have to come out of this game.
Next time down I'm driving to the hoop for an
end one bank off the glass. Really, how injured are

(36:02):
you really? I mean, how injured are you really? I
think it's a combination of players strategically for the game
and because they know I'm not going to get blamed
because how many times do you see a guy wincing
in pain and somehow the camera is right in the
guy's face? Sure, right, I mean they know, they know
when the cameraman comes off the sideline and gets right

(36:25):
up to Luca's face when he's standing there with his
hands on his shorts, he's grimacing. He knows this is
a shot that's going on television. He knows people are
going to say, look at Luca, look at the pain
he's and what a hero he is. There's no way
guys are this banged up and they're still playing great.
So I know it's exaggerated. Right. When Hollins was in
last Friday Night, I asked him about that, I said,
our guys, he goes, I can't tell you a guy

(36:45):
that went off on me for like fifty months and
they told me this morning in the morning he might
not even play right. And he went for fifty and
I was up against him for like thirty five of
those points. He didn't look injured to me. So I
really think the injury part of the playoffs is overblown
for those reasons, because there's no way at this high
level of the game. If you're that hurt you're able

(37:05):
to still do all of these things and be great.
There's just no way.

Speaker 5 (37:08):
Oh. He discussed it a little bit last night as
the Lucas stuff happened in real time. Is you know
in the NFL, at some point it goes out that, yeah,
the guy played hurt, and he'll get the report.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Oh you know he had a torn late frohim since
week nine. I was like, I don't care.

Speaker 5 (37:22):
He was on the field, so obviously whenever they did
to get him ready to get on the field, he played.
And if it affected them negatively, guess what bad job
by him and bad job by the training is to
have a bad job by the coaches.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Likewise, in the NBA, we all want our guys to
be warriors, right.

Speaker 5 (37:39):
All the comparisons back to the eighties and nineties, particularly
when the Knicks and the Pacers get together, is you
know those series were what defined by the toughness of
guys being able to take a hit and get up
and keep moving. All the rocky cliches and same thing
here and now it's the badge of honor in the
age of load management. Well, my guy was on the
court and he was hurt. Look at Anna, right, So

(38:00):
that's the I'm maybe only slightly more injured than that
guy who's sitting out, But in a in a world here,
going back to your eighth wonder of the World, thing
might as well be the Grand Canyon as to how
tough I am versus that guy.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
It's like, and it's an oxymoron where Hey, and a
really banged up player Rex scored thirty nine with eighteen rebounds,
and tennisis like, no, you can't do that if you
if you're that dinged up. I know, if I have
a bad case of food poisoning, I'm not gonna be
able to move or stay away from the toilet.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Now.

Speaker 5 (38:30):
Granted, I'm sure teams have better drugs to help you
along with things, but if you're really hurt, you can't.
You can't have games like that, man, You just can't.
Not in the NBA, not when it's because it's set
to no it sets up the superhuman column and the
super cut for the ten.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
O'clock local news playing on one leg. Look at it.

Speaker 5 (38:49):
Go.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
Yeah, I can't really blame you. I know we got
swept in the thirties, but look at all again.

Speaker 5 (38:53):
Look at the PostScript for the Sixers, imagine if Joel
Embiid had been healthy, think about.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
What, what is he going to score seventy? He scored
forty every game, but he can score seventy? Was really
the more I see, And it happens all the time
now because if you're hurt, you come right out of
the game. I know if a guy is hurt, he
would walk right off the court and go, hey, I
can't go. I gotta come off the court and staid, oh,
I'm gonna limp down court and I think I feel
good and the camera sees me and maybe the other

(39:20):
team wonders what I'm doing. Yeah, no, it it's so
much of that. As for show the exit out about
a Fresco exit swollen dome coming up next? Oh, how
about a big fat NFL hot take Happy Friday. This
is Fox Sports Radio. I'm I'm just really surprised that
here we are, Game three, that this wasn't a game

(39:42):
where the Nuggets had to overcome the Timberwolves in the
first half. Because this is one of those games where
we're up to zip, we're feeling great. This should be
where the Nuggets say, hey, we can win this game.
We got to withstand them early, and there was nowithstanding early.
It was Denver dictating the style of play, and that
that's the bit. I'm not surprised the Nuggets are playing well,
they're rich of your game, but the fact that this was, hey,

(40:05):
we didn't have to come from behind from fifteen to two,
or you know, it didn't start twenty to six. You know,
this was, oh, where we can put our stamp on
this game pretty early, and that kind of surprised me.

Speaker 5 (40:15):
Well, cold shooting come in thirty nine percent from the field,
six of twenty from three point range.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
We'll do it to you.

Speaker 5 (40:22):
I mean just in terms of long we go back
to long rebounds, being out rebounded by seven in the
first half, some fast break points and opportunities for the
Nuggets and Jamal Murray, Let's face it, the guy. The
guy brought it upon himself. But he's been the scourge
of the media world. It's it's basically been him and
Rick Carlisle owning the new cycle for the forty eight hours.

(40:45):
So you knew he was going to come out and
try to put his best foot forward because he's been awful.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
Like you could go back to that Lakers series.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Right.

Speaker 5 (40:53):
However, again, going back to the injured hurt discussion, Oh,
he's really lavery, No, he's just not a shot. Okay,
he's still playing right now, his shot is broken except
for the two game winners. Going back to the last
series and thus far, the two games at home, he
was awful in every way, shape and form, including his

(41:14):
childlike three year old temper tantrum that should have gotten
him suspended. Well, here he is, and now he's going, well,
I'm gonna shut everybody up by playing well.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Well, he answered the bell, and it gave you probably
shouldn't be playing in right, I'm gonna play well in
the game. I shouldn't be playing in No, it's bonus territory.

Speaker 5 (41:29):
Right.

Speaker 4 (41:30):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
So again we'll keep you updated on this second half.
Just underway, the team's trading buckets. It's a fifty nine
to forty three lead for the Nugget's still a ton
of time to left, just over eleven minutes to go
in the third quarter. Now we'll have more NBA coming up.
But how about a nice, big fat NFL hot take?
Oh please, as big as the big fat sandwiches we're
gonna get, and I'm gonna drown my Sorrows and Jersey

(41:52):
Mics coming up in a few minutes today. Congratulations to you, buddy.
Congratulations me. Yeah, because the last time this happened it
was kind of a punchline. But here we are in
the middle of May and ESPN's Adam Schefter. Yeah, with
the big news today, the Chicago Bears have already named

(42:13):
Caleb Williams their starting quarterback for the twenty twenty four season. Wow,
I mean that's a good one. Well, I mean, why
why dance around it?

Speaker 5 (42:21):
I mean you sent the other guy to ablivey in
QB one, he sent to him away to go battle
Russell Wilson and Nano bubbles.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
So yeah, in mini camp today, how great was that?
All the greater?

Speaker 5 (42:33):
Well, look at there's his first compleasing to Rome Adoneesay,
how great is this gonna be?

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Hey it's Benny Camp. How mad is Tyson Page? These
kids getting passed on? I didn't even get a chance
to fight time out I got Yeah. QB one for
the Bears is always going to be Andy Dalton sister.
We'll never on this show that yeah, you'll well, yeah,
that's one of the great that's one of the great. Tweets.

Speaker 5 (42:57):
Ever.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Uh, but look, I'll give you a big, a nice,
big fat hot take for the Bears. First of all,
this is the right choice because you don't have another option.
You don't have another option. There's certain teams where, yes,
a guy can sit and watch and that's probably best
for him, and there's certain teams where the guy's got
to get into the play. So you built the whole
thing right.

Speaker 5 (43:17):
Everything you did this offseason, everything you did in the draft,
was to elevate him into the greatest opportunity a Bears
quarterback has ever known in terms of the surrounding component parts.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
So if you'd gone with any type of.

Speaker 5 (43:34):
Charade and you lost all credibility, it's it's finally the
team was looking at at the respectability in the front
office and all these guys are actually working.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Towards something that the team made some great moves in
the offseason, and it's not like you have another guy
where well, if if this guy plays, maybe things are
a little bit better, Like if you had a Gardner Minshew, right,
let's say it. And because who's gonna wind up battling
out with Aidan O'Connell. Even though O'Connell's going to enter
camp as the number one quarterback. We saw that news today.

Speaker 5 (44:05):
If you had a Gardner Minshew, if you had a
backup that had succeeded to an extent, and it would
it would give Caleb Williams a chance to learn that
I would understand. But there's nobody else. There's nobody else.
And this is a guy that you drafted number one
overall and you drafted him why because he is NFL
ready to play.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
And I got news for you. Forget about this whole
bet that Malik Neighbors and Jayden Daniels made and called
off about who was going to win. You know, Oh,
there's something fun for that, because I think I know
the real reason why that bet was called off. But
I'm saying to myself, you guys are insane. Caleb Williams
is going to be the offensive rookie of the year
in a walk, and not only that, the Bears are

(44:43):
going to the playoffs. There's fine, you owe me because
I'm saying something really nice about your team. But this
is a Bears team. They're not quite the Lions of
a year ago. But you look at you look at
their weapons now, and and you're talking about they brought
in the running back you needed and DeAndre Swift because
clearly you had seven guys you played last year, and

(45:03):
I think Neil Anderson was one of them, but they
weren't one of the top teams when you add justin
fields right, exactly exactly, but you know, Rashawn Johnson wasn't
great and Khalil Herbert was okay but got hurt. No,
you brought in the guy that was terrific. As long
as he stays healthy, you're not going to overuse him
because this game, this team is obviously going to be
built on the passing arm of Caleb Williams. And look

(45:25):
at the guys he's got to throw to. Dj Moore,
Keenan Allen, Romo, Doonza, your boy, Cole Kmet. I mean,
this is this is an offense that is loaded. They
are loaded. This is not just hey, he's got a
couple of men. This is where, hey, we're plopping you in.
We're expecting a big season. If he throws for thirty
touchdowns this year, I am not surprised because this is

(45:46):
gonna be a Bears offense unlike anything you've seen where
suddenly they're throwing the football all the time and they're
throwing it with success and we're only running the ball
and we have to. I mean even when they had Cutler,
they still ran the football a lot. This is gonna
be an eye opener. Bears are ready. Nobody looks at
them because they say, well, the Bears are bad. Last
year they finished pretty well. They were seven and ten

(46:06):
right when it started out as poorly as in they
were zero to four and that really did them in. No,
they stuck with it. And this is a team that
has a lot of talent and the moves in the
off season. You had two big wide receivers and you
had a number one running back and you draft your crowd.
This is this is a haul that's unforeseen in like
the last fifteen years in the NFL. We're in one
off season that's we had a franchise quarterback and a

(46:30):
superstar Pro Bowl wide receiver and one of the top
three wide receivers in college football and one of the
top eight running backs in all of the NFL. Like
that's unbelievable. To add that in. They have all kinds
of time to gel. They're going to the playoffs like this,
this is a team that's gonna flip that seven and
ten to ten and seven, and they're gonna find a way.
That's gonna be the toughest division in the NFL this

(46:51):
year the NFC North Caleb Williams is gonna win Rookie
of the Year. He throws thirty touchdowns. I'm not surprised.
This is gonna be a great season for the Bears.
And I you know, look, you know I feel good,
and you know you owe me to say nice stuff
about my teams now, but I'm telling you the truth
about your Bears. I owe you nothing, and you've not
changed me.

Speaker 5 (47:08):
I have still one thing I hate it about, you know,
all the love fests that's come from the media off
of this one. It's like, can't they just live in
silence a little bit? No, because the expectations in Chicago
are immense.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
You look at you.

Speaker 5 (47:22):
You forgot Everett, You forgot that they'd already started building
the O line and what the defense looked like after
the trade with Washington last season. Down the stretch again,
I implore someone to tell me what happened to Alan Williams.
But once eber Fluce became the de facto of d
C and went back fully to that side of the ball.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Everything worked. Now you bring in Waldron.

Speaker 5 (47:45):
As you're oc you saw the success that he's had
in the past. All of that to say you've got weapons.
Gerald Everett added from the Chargers, you know a little
bit of concern for Keenan Allen, you know, age and
playing on that soldier field.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
But when you already have one of the best wide
receivers in DJA and one of the top two or
three receivers in Romadus.

Speaker 5 (48:09):
I know, I'm just doing my best to make sure
that we we take all of it in as as
we do here because everybody loves Keenan Allen and I
know our guy de Sager and Justin Frostbering, they're gonna
miss him quite quite a bit as they get ready
for the next iteration of Charger football. Uh and it'll
be awful weird to see. And it already has been
watching Keenan Allen walking around with Bears sweatshirts and hats

(48:32):
and stellar. But once he's actually on the field, Yeah,
to have a guy that that you know sits can
sit down in a zone and keep moving the chains
and talking about taking the top off. When you're looking
at DJ Moore and Dunes. Yeah, I mean it's it's
exciting times and I just fear the hype machine is
gonna be so and the division is curious right Green Bay.

(48:55):
Everybody's excited about what the next level is for Jordan
love what we saw down the stretch changing out a
bunch of their component parts this offseason. For sure, Minnesota
they pick up Aaron Jones, it's got your guy, Sam
Darnold and whatever JJ McCarthy is so. And then Detroit
until you go and get them. I mean, at least

(49:16):
on paper, you're still rolling along with the roster they
have there. So it's a climb in division. But yeah,
are the expectations there that you're finding your way into
the playoffs? I say, very sheepishly yes, Oh yeah, because
I can't go full, full tilt because otherwise by week
six I'm gonna just want to jump off a bridge.
But I mean, but that's the thing, that's what it is,

(49:37):
because now it's starting to get overweighted. You know what
you're talking about stocks and everybody, Ah, this company can't miss.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
That's usually when you pull back and go, eh, I
let the big everybody's on board, A big camera of
Jim Kramer. I'm buying Caleb Williams and he's throwing bricks
some money out the window. I'm buying all the guys
in that horn.

Speaker 5 (49:56):
And but look, there's a difference between the t team
that drafts a quarterback high in the first round is okay,
we're kind of starting over.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
No, this is a hey, we're loaded up.

Speaker 5 (50:06):
Man.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
All we needed was you. All we needed was you,
And now we're here and we're ready to go. And
we got your wide receiver you're gonna play with. Who's
the one of the top five wide receivers in the
game right now. Another guy we expect to grow with
you and be one of the top five wide receivers
in the game as his career goes on. We're loaded, right,
they have everything, they know everything they need. No, and

(50:26):
that's the thing, because this is where you're a Jets fan.
You get this when it actually goes on paper and
you've won a lot of off seasons. Yeah, we had
on occasion. We want an off season. Yes, this one
seems like you should just crown them, which means yeah,
because that's kind of Look, the Bears did what normally

(50:47):
teams do for a veteran quarterback in a win now mode, like, Okay,
the Jets are loading up to win now for Aaron Rodgers,
and the moves they have made are kind of like
that where the Bears have done it to say we're
loading up for our franchise quarterback who's twenty one years old.
Like you, you don't see that. And I get people
don't understand how good Caleb Williams is, how wide the
gap was between Williams and Jaden Daniels. I get the

(51:09):
people want to hate him because he paints his finger
nails and he cried with his mom. I mean, just
look at the tape and look at what he's able
to do. And I understand that that that can be polarizing.
Oh he's a guy can't cry with his mom after
the guy can't paint it. Yeah, I get it. He's
a new style of quarterback. Man, you just got to
get used to it. This is what this is what
it is.

Speaker 5 (51:26):
Did you buy a brick outside the coliseum like they're
selling to put your tribute to Caleb Williams on there? What?

Speaker 1 (51:32):
No, I didn't buy a brick. That's you buy it
a brick? Oh my sweet brick.

Speaker 5 (51:37):
Oh my sweet brick, oh brick, Mike, what was the
over under in Vegas for the Bears wins? I think
it's sitting at eight and a half. Well it's going
to be three. After Smith saying they're going to do.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
You could now go to like twelve.

Speaker 6 (51:49):
They to Mike, that's.

Speaker 4 (51:52):
That's what he's.

Speaker 5 (51:56):
I didn't do anything to Mic. Didn't this how good
the Bears are telling you? Froud, this is how good
the Bears are gonna be. You don't think it pains
me to say this