Best of the Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon

Jason and Mike debate if Trevor Lawrence is really worth $275 million. Jason explains why Danny Hurley NEVER going to take the Lakers job. And Brian Windhorst goes scorched earth on Luka Doncic. Plus, Jason tells you why Aaron Rodgers no-showing at Jets Mini Camp isn’t a great optic but it's also not that big a deal.

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Speaker 2 (00:21):
This is the best of The Jason Smith Show with
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
Greetings, Welcome inside, Happy Thursday, The Jason Smith Show with
my best friend Mike Harmon. Where tonight, for the next
four hours, we will celebrate the life and career of JD.
Martinez because it's about time we give him credit where
credit is due. Wait what ge Come on, Jady Martinez
is hit a walk off, man, it's the Met's biggest

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winning the god dude. Come on.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
I mean we celebrate him when he was a Dodger
and actually here doing things for that were meaningful.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
But come on, man, Met, we're being no hit through
six innings by a guy with an ERA of seven.
Come we walked it off with j D Martinez? He
was due? Hey? You know what? Hey?

Speaker 4 (01:06):
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Speaker 1 (01:06):
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the more we're gonna get at the deadline.

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How many guys can we sell off at the deadline?

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a follow up to that story.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Somewhere, not a whole lot of Hey, we screwed this up.
Wonder why his employer didn't really come to his defense either, though.

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Tiraq dot com is the way tire buying should be. Well,
we have a big night in the NBA. We have
lots of stuff to get to. Danny Hurley speaks. He said, no,
I didn't know the Lakers osit for anything, but what
We had a seismic NFL story break a couple of

(02:44):
hours ago, and I gotta say, I if you asked me,
I said, I knew this was coming, and I knew
it was a bad idea, and it's a bad idea.
Trevor Lawrence has just gotten absolutely paid because he was
a stud Clemson. Lawrence gets a five year, two hundred
and seventy five million dollar contract extension. Two hundred million

(03:08):
dollars of it is guaranteed one hundred and forty two
million dollars at signing bonus. The average salary when you
when you when it divide it all up fifty five
million dollars a year. That ties in with Joe Burrow
for the top mark in that category in the NFL.
So the two quarterbacks now who have set the quarterback
market are Joe Burrow and Trevor Lawrence. So let's examine

(03:28):
this for a second shilt before I tell you again
what a bad idea this was for the Jaguars. Joe Burrow,
I get it right, guy went to the Super Bowl.
He is that good. His problem is staying on the field.
That's gonna be the question mark. But if Joe Burrow
was the guy, because look, when guys come up and
they're worthy, they set the market. That's kind of how
it goes. Trevor Lawrence, I mean really, I think he's

(03:50):
getting paid because the Jaguars think he's coming out of
Clemson and he's gonna be great. It's like, let's ignore
the fact that the first three years of his career
he's been okay.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Well, the first year doesn't count, right, He's been on
I mean, you get you were with Urban Meyer and
that train wreck he's come on. Urban Meyer was perhaps
the worst head coach since Code Tight.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
He national, wha, wha, wait a minute, now, wait a minute,
I don't care. Hang on, I don't care. I'll say
it water, hang on. No, Code Tite was worse. Okay,
all right, I had to go back and think. I
had to go back to think about it for a second,
because you know what comes back to It comes back
to Code Tite. Not because the Jets were so awful
on the field, but he was the guy that cast
the vote when they said we're coming up in the draft.

(04:36):
The scouts are split, do we take Altun or Jerry Rice?
And he said, take Altune out of Wisconsin. Jerry Rice,
I don't know that he can get separation at the
next level. So the Jets took Altune. All right, that's
why it's Coe Tite. Forget about one in fifteen, forget
about all that. He was the one that said, no,
I would take Altune, So they took Altune.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
Five and seventeen career receptions yards, Altune was really good.
We had a good career, a couple of thousand yard
seasons and nearly missed the third time.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Dude, Altuon was good. We missed on the best wide
receiver in the history.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Trying. I'm trying here because if you're gonna put that
up ast, you know the hallmark of why this is
a disaster. The guy he picked actually was pretty damn
good by the guy normally it's see, hey, that guy
sucked and was washed out of the league in you know,
eight games.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
And his name was Altune. Yeah, yeah, I know, that's
normally how it goes for the Jets, and they did
yell tune every time he caught it past.

Speaker 6 (05:33):
And then they benched their guy named Nathaniel Hocket.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Okay, okay, we'll get to that. We'll get we only
have we only have so much time for Jet for
Jets here. Look, Trevor Lawrence has just been Okay, he
had a he had a good twenty twenty two, which
made you think, okay, maybe he's turning the corner. Right.
He went from a twelve and seventeen a quarterback rating
of seventy, which is which is in the bottom five

(05:56):
of the league, and then he had a pretty good
second year. Okay, that's great, Hey, Trevor Lawrence looks like
he's on the path of being that guy. The big
playoff win over the Chargers, it looked like Trevor Lawrence
was next. And last year he wasn't good. He wasn't good.
He was awful the last few weeks of the regular season.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
That's said, they were only helped by the fact that
the Eagles were such a disaster.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, you know twenty one and fourteen,
not that I'm sitting here and I am always beholding
two touchdowns and touchdown passes. And but you have to
be dyt if you're gonna get fifty five million dollars
a year, man, if you're gonna get three or four
million dollars a game, you gotta give me better than that. Man,
you gotta be better than a quarterback rating of eighty eight,
which puts him at twenty fourth overall in the NFL.

(06:41):
No matter how you slice it, he's just been okay.
And yet the Jaguars paid him like, hey, he's still
like these last three years don't matter. It's like we're
getting him brand new. When he was a stud at Clemson, right,
It's like, why Sammy Watkins. They thought he was gonna
be good for so long? Boy, what a stud at Clemson?
Sammy Watkins out. Sammy Watkins was just turned out to
be just a guy. Trevor Lawrence is smack dab in
the middle of quarterbacks in the NFL right now. If

(07:03):
you were saying, who do you want for this next
couple of seasons in the NFL, Trevor Lawrence is in
the middle. There are twelve to fourteen guys you would
take over him. But he's getting paid because he was
supposed to be next and the Jaguars still we don't
want to lose him, We don't want to start over.
I understand that, But dude's got to understand where he
is in the NFL. All right, Yes, we won the

(07:23):
playoff game against the Chargers two years ago. That was awesome,
What a great comeback. But look at what you've done. Man,
You've not been good. You have not been good. You
have been just about league average at best. I'm not
gonna give you fifty five million doll What are you
insane giving him that got fifty five million dollars a year. Hey,
the rest of the quarterbacks the NFL are happy because
they're like, hey, if Trevor Lawrence gets fifty five million, man,

(07:44):
that couldna get like ninety. The owners aren't happy because
wait a minute, Trevor Lawrence is setting the bar here
again at fifty five million. But this this contract, he
is way overpaid. And not that it's my money, right,
because I want to say it's not my money. That
all jealous guys getting too much money is that you
only have so much money to pay for a team
and you're trying to win. You're trying to win the

(08:04):
Super Bowl. And when you have a guy taking up
twenty to twenty five percent of your salary cap, you
don't have room for the better players you're gonna need
to bring in. If you're giving a guy fifty five
million dollars, this guy's got to be a Pro Bowl,
all pro level quarterback man. You can't just be some
guy that, hey, he can be a Pro Bowl replacement

(08:25):
when three guys say no because they're playing in the
in the AFC playoffs. I mean, like, this is a
guy that I don't know the next Pro Bowl he's
even gonna make, right, Like Trevor Lall, he's just not
been good. He doesn't take care of the football, he
throws too many interceptions. Like to pay the guy because
he's league average, Okay, great, you want to extend him
twenty five third. Okay, but to take up that amount

(08:45):
of your salary cap is just insane. And all you've
done is make it more impossible to keep good players
because you need good players around him. He had the
best wide receivers you could possibly put around him. Last year,
you had Ridley back from suspension, you had Christian Kirk
who turned into a superstar. On Christian Kirk from the
beginning of the year. Last year, how good he was.
And still this is where you're at now, right and
Ingram coming out what a great tight end he was.

(09:07):
And you're coming off a year where hey, in sixteen games,
twenty one touchdowns, fourteen picks. This is not fifty five
million dollars a year. Man, this is I looked at
this and I just said, wow, this is a mistake,
just blinking in red Light's a mistake. Mistake, mistake, that's
his whole thing.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Well, I look at it as here's where the market
is at this point in time. And rather than play
and time the market, which is you know, any financial
advisor will tell you bad idea. You're ready to buy
a house, You're ready to buy a house down. I
don't try to time the market. You'd like a stock.
Look at where it's at. Don't try to play the
games that it's going to go up or down some greatness.

(09:42):
Get after it, right, you know you fell in love
with that boy or girl down the street.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Maybe you know you shared.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
A cupcake during fifth period. I don't know it. Now's
the time to say, wait, wait, wait, how.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Are you cupcakes during fifth period? Okay? Good? You know
what I mean?

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Like all of that stuff, and for this purpose, you know,
we know this. The salary cap keeps rising. He's not
gonna be any cheaper a year from now. He's been
good in spots. Would you have a three to one
touchdown to interception ratio the year prior last year was
just an unmitigated disaster down the stretch. They could write

(10:19):
books or maybe Netflix will do a documentary on them too.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Seeing you like, he was just straight lighting it up.
It's not like he had he had an average year
and then had a works final four.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
No, like he was fine, right, he was fine the
year before. But like you know, I'm just saying all in.
The quarterback position is the one where logic gets thrown
out the window, man, And it always has and it
always will. Like all the quarterbacks that are standing around
waiting aren't excited. Jerry Jones, you know the he was

(10:50):
really excited about Dallas losing yesterday and being on the
verge of being swept. He ain't so excited anymore after
seeing Trevor Lawrence get this pile of cash. Four thousand year,
four thousand yards, twenty one and fourteen, as you said,
completed about two thirds of his past attempts. So solid,

(11:10):
not spectacular, but where the market is, and out of
that draft class in twenty twenty one, he's the last
man standing too, right in terms of what that next
wave of guys that we're gonna be to get paid.
Jacksonville just looked at it. Said, from the pragmatism standpoint
is does he have room to grow? Twenty four years old,
going to turn twenty five in October? Okay, Yes, he's

(11:32):
got a couple of years in the system.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Check.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
We've got some players around him, so we should be better.
Check and going forward, are we going to be bad
enough to where we can find ourselves another Trevor Lawrence.
The answer is no.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
But when you get at Trevor Lawrence, you're talking about
can you get a league average quarterback somewhere because that's
what he's been right. Well, but the point is the
average quarterback.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
But the point is you're not going to be drafting
high enough to go find even his replacement at this point.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Got Kirk you want to pay money? You could have
got Kirk Cousins. Well, no, I want it.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Well, yeah, you could go get Kirk Cousins, particularly if
the league's only gonna find you two hundred fifty k
it's almost some half ass third day pick. Are you
kidding me? We tampered with nine guys. Here's our penalty,
half fat? What what kind of league officer we running now?

Speaker 1 (12:20):
But you can go get a guy that's gonna get
there's no shortage of players that can go twenty one
and fourteen and throw for four thousand yards. There. You
can get that from Gardner minshew a guy and all
you gotta do is pay him in sandwiches and jorts
and that's all. It's not a bad round and hair product.
That's just like Trevor. Oh okay, you know that's that's

(12:41):
gonna be a wash, buddy, Yeah, no, no wash. You're right.
I would give him the hair product. I'd throw that
in at the end and say okay, but that's it.
This is the end. Like, there's no more. I mean,
there's no you can get that from Derek Carr. You
get even more than from that from Derek Carr. Derek
Carr is not really any good like you I could.
He's Mayfield Baker. Mayfield has already had a better seat
in the last year and yearn then Trevor Lawrence has

(13:03):
had his first three years. Like it's like we project him.
The idea of Trevor Lawrence seems better than it is.
It's like you're gonna start paying attention, man, like this
is this is not a guy that's rewriting the record books.
This is not saying he is. This is not a
guy who suddenly is, hey, we're winning division year after
year after years. This guy's not doing any of that.
He's not doing anyhow.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
He's solid, not spectacular. Has had moments where you think
maybe it's gonna start to click. I'm just saying it's
it's it's just pure economics and where the market is.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
And you could have said no and then you can
play the game on franchise tags and whatever else. Jason,
But you know when when this was announced and Frosburg
sent us the cool Trevor Lawrence little meme. You know,
the immediate is like looking at the numbers, and I
started to just ponder.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
It's like is this.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
Good for the company, And for a moment, I'm like,
I don't know that it is. But it's settled right,
and now you.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
Might there's only one man responsible for all this. There's
only one man.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
One man.

Speaker 5 (14:06):
Laurence should be thinking, who's that, Brandon Staley?

Speaker 3 (14:14):
That that is well done?

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Well, you gotta thank Frank Gore too, on his way
out of the NFL. No, I'm gonna make sure on
this big fourth down I get it so I don't
have to worry about Trevor Lawrence going to the Jets.
Frank Gore. The gift of Frank Gore I could still see.
You know, there's certain things in sports I will always
see in my mind. Right. There's certainly like I'm gonna

(14:38):
see that Andrew Nempard miracle three pointer and Tyrese Halliburton
walking around like he was just healed and he just
he just stood up out of a wheelchair, like I'm
gonna see that for a long time. I am gonna
see Frank Gore catching the football and falling backwards over
the first doubt marker to clinch that game and be
saying we're not getting Trevor Lawrence, just falling. Here's my gift.

(15:01):
I'm forty eight years old. I'm going this isn't my
lands gift to you? He here you go. I hope
you'll okay, that's fair. I will send you that police
You didn't have to pay him. Oh man, I'll tell you.
Uh yeah, you're right. No, you're right, You're right, Alice,
you don't have to pay it. That's okay, that's okay.
We had to worry about wherever in the world. Aaron
Rodgers is right, now, that's absolutely fun. Exit. How about
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(15:23):
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(15:47):
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Speaker 1 (17:46):
Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. True, you know you can you always
know that. I think I've seen this now. Whenever Tyshirt
and I argue when we're off the air and I
get Tears for Fears is the song that we when
we continue talking again, I know that I've upset him.
I mean I always know. Hey, come on, man, come on,

(18:08):
I Shirt this that. But Alex is there.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
I mean, he got us started, and he had our
volumes right, and he was checking us and putting out
a high professional effort.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
What were you arguing about? We were talking about the show,
and and we had a question and he said, oh,
come on, the show's easy. I could do the show easy.
I said, oh, sorry, you and your nine minute anime podcast,
they're pretty easy. Hey, do you have a Mega charges
art you'd like to sell right now? Oh, I could
do your show, Jason. I go go ahead, and he goes,
that's a Jason Smith Show with Mike carbon Lifethtireck dot

(18:40):
Com Studios.

Speaker 7 (18:41):
I'm telling you, Jason, if I open the show, Justin
will give me the JD Martinez home run.

Speaker 6 (18:45):
Just saying, I know for a fact.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Probably something to that now, I'm still undefeated in the
Grimace era.

Speaker 6 (18:52):
He doesn't know that for a fact. He just knows
it's true, right exactly.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
It's like Bill Mark and so I said, I said,
that's all you got tight, that's all you have to say.
That's all you have is never mind, we're coming back.
And I said, okay. He says your MIC's on, and
then I hear tears.

Speaker 6 (19:04):
Yeah you want ten seconds?

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Any other song in the world, how about that? Any
other song you apologize? I apologize for what?

Speaker 6 (19:14):
You know, what you did?

Speaker 1 (19:15):
What I did? Nothing?

Speaker 6 (19:17):
I remember that I did.

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What do you think fuh that Smith did to ty
Shirt at how about a Fresco at Swollen Dome at
Fox Sports Tree.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Ty Shirt doesn't remember stuff from ten minutes ago. He
doesn't even pay attention to this show.

Speaker 6 (19:29):
I'm not worried about it totally forgetting what we're even
talking about.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Alex, Alex, can you please tell us in your own
words what Jason's been said to you?

Speaker 6 (19:35):
Yes, I can't.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
What when? Oh no, I can't. That was that was
too long ago? Yeah, it's too long between the trial
and what happened that's that's like a year. I don't
remember any of it, not at all, none of it.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Remember when you told the officers this no, this case
is almost five years old.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
I got when I bang on your foot and say hello,
mister Thompson, you say, how are you hello? To Toms?
Now you're talking. I think he's talking to you. So
today off day before we potentially see the NBA Finals,
and tomorrow with Game four, and we'll get into Luca

(20:13):
coming up in a bit. But today belonged to Danny Hurley,
the Yukon head coach who made the rounds and talked
about how he decided to stay at Yukon, spurning the
Lakers offer that would have paid him over seventy million dollars.
And he's appeared on a couple of place today, was
on The Herd with Colin Coward earlier today and said,
oh no, wait a minute, I didn't. I didn't use
the Lakers as leverage to get more money at I

(20:36):
didn't do that at all, even though my contract, you know,
they talked about making me the highest paid coach in
the in all of college college basketball, and the governor
of the state actually weighed in on that you know,
the night that we were debating it, so I don't
want to say that he said that they was no
leverage play and he simply couldn't resist going back to

(20:57):
Yukon to try to win a third champion.

Speaker 8 (21:00):
And I was really excited about the job. I mean
for us right now we've started practice with our you know,
with our current team that's going to go for potentially
a three p This was not a great time for
me to mess around or to go for a leverage play.
I already had the leverage back to back national championships

(21:21):
and the way that we're doing it and putting players
in the NBA and our culture and the way we
play ball. I mean, that's that's my leverage.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yeah. Okay, you know what, Hey, well, truth, load of crap. Truth. No,
we just got a load of crap from Danny Hurley
all day today. Okay, first of all, again, let me
go back to when he says, no, I'm staying at Yukon.
The governor of the state said we're going to make
him the highest paid coach in all of college basketball.
If it wasn't a leverage play, we would have found
out before now. Danny Hurley, all of a sudden We wait,

(21:54):
really three days after it happened for him to say, oh,
I already had my contract was already done. Oh really,
so there's no extra added there, nothing in the works
for you, nothing else you got over this, Danny Hurley.
And again I'm telling you he was never going to
take the job. He came out whether it was a curiosity,
knowing full well, I can use this as leverage to
get whatever else I want out of the University of Connecticut.

(22:17):
Because everything went well, Why would you say no? If
everything went well, you went to the Lakers, you said
you were incredibly impressed. Right, I was impressed by everything
they had for me. I'd be coaching Lebron James. It
would have been a dream. Everything was awesome. And the
only thing he said was ah, you know, but they
didn't make me an offer. I could have refused for
the money. Oh so wait, so seventy million wasn't enough. Now,

(22:39):
I'll agree the Lakers could have come up. And if
they really were smart, and this gets into the Lakers
mismanaging things, they would have said, we're gonna make you
the highest paid coach in all of the NBA. Right
that would you know? Would that have done it, maybe,
but it's not like they didn't give him any like
they tried to low ball, and they're going to make
him the third highest paid coach in the NBA. The
only guys he's behind are coaches that won four and
five titles. And I don't know why you wouldn't say

(23:02):
screw it. When you need a guy, you have to overpay, right,
that's the strategy when you when you're desperate, you overpay.
But I get the whole thing. Hey, you know you're
not gonna get more than Pop, You're not gonna get
more than Steve Kerr. You're gonna get right there at
number three. So with all of this going on, the
money was surely there for Danny Hurley to suddenly say, oh,
they could have made me an offer I can't refuse.
So wait, there was no negotiation at all, Like they

(23:23):
made the offer and you just said, oh no, I'm
saying no to this offer. You didn't say, hey, I
want more money. Hey, you know I want one hundred
million dollars. There was no negotiation. That's why this is
a load of crap. Like, oh, like the only like
they got an offer in writing and the Lakers said
take it or leave it, and you got to decide
in five minutes. There's no negotiation at all. I don't
believe anything. I don't believe any of this. At Danny Hurley,
he used the Lakers for whatever he's going to get

(23:46):
and whatever he wanted from University of Connecticut, this is
what he's getting, and he used the Lakers. He was
never going to take the job because everything went well.
He liked the organization, he liked the players. The money
was there, and he said, well, you know, they could
have given me a lot more money in that much.
Oh yeah, you're just making up a reason now to
say no. That makes it sound palatable and it's not,

(24:06):
because if the money truly wasn't there, you really could
There was no way. You went back to the Lakers
said Okay, hey, I like this deal. We're in the
ballpark for money. We're in the ballpark. You know, five
or seventy million were in the ballpark. But instead of that,
how about it's like eight and one hundred and ten, right,
why don't we do that?

Speaker 4 (24:21):
Right?

Speaker 1 (24:22):
There was no other The Lakers said no, no, we're
drawing a line in the sand. They wanted to be embarrassed,
not getting dead, of course not so. He's just he's
reinventing things to try to make it seem like I
didn't just go out and have a fun weekend in
La come back for the Billy Joel concert, decide to
stay at the University of Connecticut. He was never going
to take the job. If he was really conflicted, it
would have been more than a day, right, It would

(24:43):
have been more than a day for him to say, Okay,
you know what, boy, I really might might have to
take this job. Because he went home and gave himself
a self imposed deadline, right one day, deadline I got
to decide by the next day. Was you con telling
them they had to decide in the day that the
Lakers say, we need you to decide. No, he decided
I'm gonna do this in the day. Why because he
was going to say no if he was If there

(25:04):
was ever any question, it would be I got to
think about this for a couple of days. I got
to think about this, I got to talk to my
wife about it. For whatever reason, he was never going
to take this job. And the Lakers got used by
a guy who came out for a weekend and you
put all your eggs in his basket and he turned
away from a gig he was never going to say
yes to.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
Yeah, it's it's funny, right, it's still trying to figure
out the pie chart. I don't think it's all leverage,
but I certainly think it was a long shot for
the Lakers. A little sidelight was that, you know, Lebron
wasn't there talked, but in the text that they did
have he said, well, if I'm there in Los Angeles,
he'll have my full support. It's like, wait a minute,

(25:44):
So he opened the door.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
So now we get to.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
Speculate about Lebron and where he's gonna end up, and
we'll get those thought pieces.

Speaker 6 (25:51):
Guy, Mike. But we actually texted after today, can you.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
No, I don't believe anything. A lot of what Hurley's
thrown out here. I'm not buying right because he uh,
he did. Colin he was on with LeBatard as well,
and he said, well, quote nil staff salaries, different things
that I wanted adjust to that I'm.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Still not comfortable with. Like I way, we've talked about
this before.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
He used the analogy trying to explain this to my
daughters a little bit before because they were asking what
was what was gonna be one of the stories tonight,
Like you can have, you know, everything you want in
a quarter, right, you meet all objectives and for everybody
out there, right you're selling widgets, maybe this is part
of your jobs.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Whatever.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
Here, here's what you're supposed to have as an output,
and you can meet all of that. And you're like,
that's pretty good. We did a good job. Do you
think they're increasing, you know, all all of your expenditures
and pushing forward. No, they're gonna try to squeeze you.
And you see if you can hit that mark with
a little bit less or a little more text right

(26:56):
that that stuff just hey, let's pour over some more money. Nless,
you're gonna get multiple of two, three, four times whatever.
In this case, it was all right, I may not
need that multiple. But there's a bunch of stuff that
we can clean up here. There's still some work to
be done behind the scenes. Maybe a couple more staffers
here there, whatever. His salary doesn't need to balloon to

(27:18):
one hundred million dollars, but he can do some other
things to make life easier as the pre eminent college
basketball coach for the Lakers.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Yeah, you know, the Godfather offer.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
That's the quote that just keeps circulating in all of this,
and he even admitted it to that, right, Oh, there
might have been a number yeah maybe, yeah, in the
sky whatever.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
And that's where the Lakers could have made it, if
you really want that. And that's where the Lakers didn't understand, Hey,
your brand is not what it was. If you want
your break, you gotta think of yourself like the Jets, like,
if we want somebody, we got to overpay by so
much money because our brand is in the toilet. Like
that's how you should have Like you should have come
out and said, hey, you'll be the highest paid coach

(28:00):
in the NBA, more than Steve Kirk, more than Steve Kirk,
but that's more than Pop, more than Pop, more than Spolster,
more than Spolster. Like that might have done it. But
it's not like they gave him some offer and said, hey,
you haven't proven yourself in the NBA, so we're going
to give you a low ball deal. No, they're still
going to make him the third highest paid coach. But
I will say the Lakers could have gone high. They
could have gone higher to make it, but.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
You just have to recognize the market.

Speaker 5 (28:20):
Right.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
Part of it is what your brand currently is the
other part is what this guy's history, what it's all about.
Could have read Win Horses book about his old man,
you know, and maybe done a couple of Google searches
about you know, family history, all of that stuff that
builds into this. Right you're leaving, you know, this dynastic

(28:41):
kind of run, and yeah, there's things to be tweaked,
hence the leverage whatever percentage that was. But part of
him is curious. You know, at least you know was
gonna fly out and hear him out, but you know
the fact that you don't have the entire family traveling
with you and doing you know, multiple days across LA

(29:01):
and Disneyland and whatever else. You know, it's a short
term a you know, come out and he come out
to the coast, have a few laughs, let's let's talk
a little bit, and then he's back on a plane.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
So how serious I did it get? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
But the reality is, you know, you got a guy
that you knew what was gonna take a mountain to
move him. And then he started telling stories about what
his wife had to say and whatever else, and you
know those might have been jurnatic, mean, he might have
met with a script screenwriter while he was here for
those eighteen hours. How am I going to sell this
on the back end as to how she felt on

(29:37):
all of it? But yeah, it's saying that there was
no leverage in it and that wasn't the play. I
wish you weren't such a liar.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Yeah, I mean, I look, if there was, if there
was anything that tells me he would have come out,
like even if they offered that, he would have found
a way to say, no, highest paid coach and all
of the NBA. But third highs paid is not good enough. Really, really,
third highs paid is not good enough. Like the optics
of turning down being the highest paid coach in the
NBA that might have that might have. I don't know
that it would have, but it might have said there

(30:07):
by the Lakers.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
But so much uncertainty though, Jason, because you know, if
if that Lebron exchange was legitimate, maybe maybe Lebron's not there.
So is it even a you know, does it have
any appeal into short term other than a paycheck. We'll
never know.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
We'll never know. We'll never know because the Lakers didn't
understand where they really were as a franchise. They were
still a little bit too. We're the Lakers. He's gotta
come down. No, no, no, you're the No, you're the
Jets Man. You're the Jets. You gotta gotta gotta offer way.
If they're offering ten million, we're offering twenty five million,
you're the Jets. That's how you gotta do it. You know,
Frostburg's never gonna talk to you again.

Speaker 6 (30:44):
Now, that might be the dumbest thing you ever said.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
You called his team the Jets Man.

Speaker 6 (30:49):
Dude, Dude, it's a long list, but that might be
at the top.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Dude, are you kidding? Understand that you're gonna wind up
with Doc Rivers when it's all said and done. But
that's how it's gonna go. Don't worry about it. You're
gonna get Doc Rivers.

Speaker 6 (30:59):
In Aaron Rodgers. Okay, yeah, I do.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
As soon as I find out where Aaron Rodgers is,
I'll worry about him. But until then, it's over.

Speaker 6 (31:06):
Worry about Hackett getting benched.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Mini Campo The Jason Smith Show with my best friend
Mike Harmon Live from the tiraq dot Com Studios. We
will have more on Danny Hurley coming up in the Lakers. Now,
they're interviewing JJ Reddick, good.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
Luck and Shams and Windy keep fighting but yes.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Coming up next the latest on Luka Doncic heading into
Game four. I'm not gonna say this is conspiracy theory,
but I'm gonna outline a scenario for you that you're
gonna agree with when it comes to Luca and the
Mavericks and Game three into Game four. That's next right here, Jason.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Oh, the Duckman is at the prim and Christy Swanson
wants to ants with him, and confetti is falling. I
so wanted that to be my prom. I so wanted
pretty in pink to be my prom. I'm like, oh,
this is what the problem's gonna be now, not at all, not.

Speaker 6 (32:10):
Even You're not pretty in orange?

Speaker 1 (32:12):
No, I Hey, dude, orange is a tough color to
pull off. It's a I realize it's a very difficult
color pulloff. And I don't go to a college prom, man,
I didn't go to Mike. We were actually maroon and
white were our colors.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Well, the fraternities and sororities, I mean still have prom
like dances.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Could have crashed one of those, but I'm just saying,
but pretty in pink was you know, it's a prom
and it's duckman, it's hey.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Suddenly Christie Swanson wants Okay.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
I've tried to sell the greatness of Crier. Now I
am more sure that again to borrow from the great
Bill Maher. I don't know this for a fact, but
I know it's true that the Mavericks and Brian Windhorst
teamed up for their Luca intervention following Game three last night. Look,

(33:03):
we talked about this and then this broke very late
in the show. ESPN's Brian windhors has been a big
analyst for a long time and insider with the NBA.
He never takes on the players. He never talks about
players who need to be doing better, need to be
playing differently. But instead he went on a rant following
Game three less like saying things like you and I
sound basically saying what you and I had been saying

(33:25):
a lot about Luka Doncic. But here's Brian Windhorst and here.
He is just taking a blowtorch to Luka Doncic.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
Last night, Luca and Kyrie combined for actually more than
Tate Brown did, but Luca fowls out late.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
I just wonder your reaction to that whole sequence.

Speaker 9 (33:39):
Yeah, I thought it was perfect that Luca fell onto
the ground there in an unacceptable position to put himself
in with four minutes left with five fouls, and then
immediately looks at the bench and says, you better bleeping
challenge it, as if it's the bench's fault that he
just made a terrible play. I'm standing here in the
Mavericks tunnel over there with the Celtics tunnel.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
That's where the winners are.

Speaker 9 (33:59):
If Lucas ever going to be a winner coming out
of this tunnel here, he is going to have to
use this have what's happened in this finals as a
learning experience. His defensive performance is unacceptable. He is a
hole on the court. The Celtics are attacking him. They
are ahead in this series because they have attacked him defensively.

Speaker 6 (34:16):
And you've got a situation here where.

Speaker 9 (34:17):
Luca's complaining about the officiating. They have begged him, they
have talked with him, They have pleaded with him. He
is costing his team because of how he treats the officials.
He's a brilliant player, he does so many things well,
they are here because how he did. His performance in
this game is unacceptable and the reason why the Mavericks
are not going to win.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
He's got to get over this.

Speaker 9 (34:35):
And the fact that he came out after the game
and blame the officials showed me He's nowhere close yet.
So maybe over the summer somebody will get to him,
because nobody with the Mavericks or anybody else in his
life has and that's where the Mavericks are at this point.
They're never going to get to this tunnel with the
trophy if he doesn't improve those aspects of his game.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Brian to my friend, Okay, well, if you just had
a little bit of a vocal inflection, he's frank to take.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
He's not he's not He's not a winner.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
He is he is.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
The Mavericks said that he doesn't listen to the Mavericks.
It's fitting. He's on the floor, he's yelling at his team.
When this came out last night, we said this, this
is not Brian Windhorn. This is something where Hey, this
is how the Mavericks feel about Luca, but we want
this message to come from someone else. So was there
a conversation, some sort of a because this is not

(35:28):
what Brian Windhorse does, And was this some sort of hey,
the Mavericks saying, Hey, this is what we would like
to say about him, but it's hard because we need
to maintain a great relationship with him. We can't tune
him out because he is that kind of talent. We
got here with him and he's part of our future.
So wind Horse says that last night, which is something
you know, the Mavericks all want, because Luca called everything

(35:49):
he said stuff we covered on the show last night,
so we could be NBA insiders misdirecting.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
So now we're talking about him in this stuff instead
of his feud with Shams over early.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
So now today, what does Luka Doncicch say, Hey, I
can't be complaining about the referees all the time, and
I understand. I'm gonna go out and have fun. That's
what got us to winning, was out there having fun.
And I know that people don't like when I complain.
I have to change that. So message received. Now it's
too late to most likely too late to win the
title this year. But all of this this is not

(36:23):
suddenly Brian Windhorse wanted to go on television and just
take Luca to the ground because he's an insider, right.
He wants to relationship with Luca. He also wants to
relationship with the Dallas Mavericks. All of a sudden, he's
gonna go on for no reason and just absolutely trash Luca.
Now this was Hey, we would like to let now
you didn't meet with you. Now you've never heard it
from me. It's like the It's like the scene in

(36:44):
the Spy movie where where the two people meet in
the park on the park bench and one of them's
feeding the pigeons and the other one sits neck. They say,
don't turn to me. I'm gonna tell you what's going on.
Then I'm gonna get up and walk away like that's
kind of how I.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
See and they leave asap. That has an envelope under yeah,
here you go. Hey, read the story on page D three, Oh,
PAGD three, Like this is what I see it again.
I don't know this to you know, to be a fact.
I just know that it's true because there's no way
this wasn't something that was put out there because suddenly,
now today Luca gets the message after hearing that last

(37:16):
night and Windhorse going viral with his I'm suddenly turning
into a hot take phenomenon.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
No, this was exactly what the Mavericks wanted to get
out there, and it's just too late because everything went.
Everything he said was right. I mean, that's exactly what
Luca has been. But he's got a little too full
of himself, a little too full of hero ball, and
you had bad ideas with trying to create contact all
the time instead of scoring, and then you know, wanting
to complain about calls while the ball is going the
other way up the floor for the Celtics. So yeah,

(37:41):
there's nothing that's wrong here. This was just the message
that the Mavericks wanted out to Luca, and it looks
like the message was received.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Yeah, I know, you get it out through a guy
who never goes after players, right, don't don't bite the
hand that feeds you. You know, information guy suddenly isn't
he's he's kind of information while holding a flamethrower in
this right, It's like, well, because he could have just
said my sources, you know, around the Mavericks.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
You know this is the kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
No, no, no, Instead he went full on h You know,
he's master of the microphone in a WWE shoot interview,
so that that's really where for Windhorse, and he got
the message across. And then they made Luca sit down
and have that interview. He didn't want to be there.

(38:29):
It still comes back to Michael Finley steeling his beer.
You treat him like a child.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
Do you know what you get?

Speaker 3 (38:35):
You get a child, That's what you get. That's what
you get.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
If you want to make me feel like an infant,
guess what, I'm gonna throw a tantrum. You're gonna take
my beer. I'm gonna take all the shots that and
complain against the referees. How about that, Michael Finley, Glad
you take my beer? Then that's great. Exit out about
a Fresca exit swelling done. Coming up next, it is
time to address the biggest NFL story of the last
couple of days, Fox Sports Radio. If the puck goes behind,

(39:00):
If the puck goes behind the net and there's players
from the other team there, you stay in the net.
You don't you don't go ahead, don't try to play
the puck when there's guys from the other team behind
the net, and the Panthers were really were really buzzing.
Like the Panthers get in there, and Skinner misplays the
puck and because there's another player there for the for
the Panthers, they throw it right out in front for
an easy goal. Two to one is the score. It

(39:22):
got up to four to one. Edmonton fought back, but
of course you couldn't get that goal back. That is
just a huge brain cramp by Skinner and I keep
seeing it over and over and going, oh no, get back,
get back to the net, get back to the net.
And that was such a backbreaking goal to give the
Panthers a lead they never relinquished.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
It's at any level of sport, whether it's the you know, hockey, field, field, hockey, soccer.
As soon as the netminder moves more than five feet
from the posts, don't you get a little bit nervous.
Don't you get a little bit hey, there's getting they're
gonna chip one over you, or something's gonna happen. That's

(40:02):
a bit chaotic here, and that certainly came into play.
I was screaming with about twelve minutes left.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Just pull the goalie.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
Come on, let's go, let's shuffle this thing up right
now and get back into this game.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Find some kind of chaos and create it.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
But yeah, another another Edmonton defeat.

Speaker 6 (40:20):
Jenner is just a simple mandj.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Very nice anymore. The Jason Smith Show that Mike Carmon
live from the Direct Outcome Studies again. I keep watching it, going,
oh my goodness, Oh.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
No, nothing good happens there, bad, no, no, again.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
I just keep like, you're not triggering.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
A break the other way, it's not happening. Just get
back in the net.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
I just keep hearing coach Matt going if there's other players,
but you stay in the net. You stay in the
net because he was doing defensive Jillsey was you stay
in the net? Okay, okay, what are you doing when
this happens. I wasn't a taste, you know. I was
a glamour boy, like you know, I was a center,
I was a star, so I mean, you know, but
I was listening though. I was always listening due.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
So we're gonna probably have sweeps in.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Both of these series. No, I know, right, I know.

Speaker 6 (41:08):
The Panther played like free birds tonight, and I leave
here tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
No, see, that's we have to say. And the oilers
are saying, if we leave here tomorrow with a four
game sweep, will people even remember?

Speaker 6 (41:25):
We were clean out of their pants.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
But it's time to address Aaron Rodgers. Okay, it's just
and stop Rogers, who was, of course not with the
Jets because he had something more important than Jets Mini camp.
It was an excused absence. We talked about this on
Monday night when I felt so bad for Robert Sala,
who had to say it's inexcused. And you know, but

(41:50):
Aaron and I have been in consommunication. He had an
event that was very important to him, and I felt
bad because look, we hit the nail on the head.
This just shows you that Robert Sala is just a guy, right,
that Aaron Rodgers is the guy calling all the shots.
Here's the head coach having to say, well, it's an excuse.
And I watched the last two days people just ramble
and rant about Aaron Rodgers, missing the point about all

(42:12):
of this, right, So let let let's get through this.
You know, I'm not sudden you're saying Aaron Rodgers is
the greatest, But let's let's deal with this for what
this is right, because all you've heard is Rod loses
Rogers and he wanted together this and he's not there.
What's more important than him being there. Let's examine this
for a second. Okay, why did Robert Sala have to
address it? Right? Oh, he could have just not said anything. Well,
you have a son Reddick who was the big offseason

(42:34):
acquisition for the Jets, who also is not showing up
for mini camp. The Jets blew this right. They traded
for him, figured we can work out a contract deal
with him, and he hasn't been to any OTAs and
he hasn't been in the building. Right, so this is
a thing. Now the Jets have screwed this up and
they have to figure out a way to get to
get Hassan Reddick into camp now because he's the guy
they signed to say we need twelve sacks from you

(42:55):
this year. Right, this is going to keep our defense great.
They let defensive linemen go, but he is been a
very high profile absence. He can't come out and not
say anything or say well, it's okay for Aaron because
a son Reddick's gonna go. Well, then why is it
Okay for me too, He's gotta say something. So that
really that part wasn't about Rogers. It was more about, hey,
it's in excuse because they wanted Son Reddick to know. Dude,

(43:16):
it's inexcused, and we traded for you. We expect you here.
So for all that part, why did you have to
say something? That's why he had to say something. Now
when it comes to is this.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
The horrible thing?

Speaker 1 (43:26):
This is just because Aaron Rodgers makes himself an easy target,
and he does it himself right with his crazy conspiracy
theories and podcast. He feels like, I gotta go on.
You have like three followers, Yes, but hey, listen, we'll
talk NFL for five minutes and then you tell me
all you want to about the world being flat and
now we're living in the matrix. That can be the
next hour and a half. Oh great, let's do the podcast.
He brings it on himself, but he makes himself a

(43:48):
target right now looking at this, is this a great
optic noe? And I like Aaron Rodgers to be here? Yeah?
Do I think that whatever event it is, maybe he
could have moved it. Okay, maybe he couldn't. I don't know.
But in the But the bottom line I go by
this was he there for every day of the OTA
in the last three weeks. He was Do the Jets
sound like they're really worried? They do not. Do the

(44:10):
Jets players sound like they're worried. They don't. Every quote
I've seen the last couple of days and Jet players
have been, Hey, eight's been with us for the last
few weeks. He had something important. He's our quarterback, he's
our guy. There's no controversy. I feel like there's it's
controversy just for people who look for a reason to
bring Aaron Rodgers up and talk about it, rather than
it is with the Jets, because this seems to be

(44:32):
like it's a non story. Rodgers is not there, inexcused.
They'll figure out a fine. I'm sure he'll pay it,
and it doesn't seem like he's not there. Because I'll
ask you this, would you rather have Aaron Rodgers in
an inexcused absence, but he's in communication with the Jets
and they're on the same page. Or would you rather
have a guy like Alvin Kamara walk out on the
last day because he wants to get paid. Would you

(44:53):
rather have a guy not there? Because he wants to
get paid or a guy not there. But he's in
communication with the team and and everything is fine. And yes,
it's a bad optic that he's not there. I think
everybody would rather take that. Are the Jets gonna win
or lose any more games because Rogers is not here
for the mini camp. They're not You're talking about three
days in June, when he was there for the last

(45:13):
three weeks. There's a lot of stuff to really be
concerned about. Aaron Rodgers on it. We've talked about it,
and he makes it really hard to root for him, right,
but he's such a lightning rod no matter what he does,
it's let's blow this up and let's make it a
lot bigger than it. Ah, he's not there. When he
said the Jets have to cut out the bs and
be there for each other, he's kind of been there.
I don't see anybody being really upset other than the

(45:34):
people who want to engage and and make Aaron Rodgers
a part of the storyline. So for me, when this
story came out, I said, oh boy, bad optic for
the Jets. They're gonna get made fun of. But just
the hatred and vitriol for this, like like, this is
Aaron Rodgers skipping out the day before the opener, going hey, sorry, guys,
but I have this darkness retreat. We couldn't move. It's

(45:55):
aboddy of mine. He's gonna get married next week. He
can't move it so long. I'm gonna miss the opening
Monday night game. I'm sorry about that. I mean, that's
not what this is. This is three days in June
when Tom Brady for the last fifteen years has missed OTAs.
He has missed time because he didn't want to go
for Bill Belichick because he was mad that Belichick was
able to run the team how he wanted. And Brady
decided to not go, and Gronk decided to not go.

(46:17):
That was fine. That was fine for Brady to not go, right,
Why is it not fine for Aaron Rodgers to say, Hey,
these three days, I'm gonna go someplace else again, not
the greatest optic, not something that you really want, but
is it the doom and gloom? And suddenly Aaron Rodgers
is not committed. That's a load of crap. It was.
Aaron Rodgers is an easy target. So that's what made
a lot of people go crazy about the story the

(46:37):
last couple of days. But it doesn't seem like it's
a big deal for the Jets, doesn't seem like it's
a big deal for the coaching staff. So yeah, I
think we hit it on the head when we talked
about how this just shows you Aaron Rodgers has the
power in the organization and looking at the guys, looking
at Robert Salah and Nathaniel Hackett, who didn't call plays
today for the Jets, they had a new play caller
with Aaron Rodgers out, new guy call in plays. This

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just shows you that all the ills they have, and
they don't have a lot because they have a great roster,
but all the they're hoping Rogers covers up all of them.
He's the most powerful guy in the organization. You've gotten
in bed with Aaron Rodgers. If he misses a couple
of days for a mini camp. He misses a couple
of days, not the greatest thing, but not suddenly something
I'm gonna start losing sleep over going how do we
get out from under Rogers contract? How do you know

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this is this has not been treated with the proportion
that it should have been. All across the board, Well,
but the.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
Problem is it doesn't live in a vacuum Jason, right.
I mean that's just if it's an independent thing of
you know, Aaron Rodgers, and he hadn't done that fiery
get rid of the bs, you know, in the building
speech or whatever, then it doesn't matter. It's like a
hope he's okay, Hope, the family's okay. Whatever it is
must have been important. Problem is you've got a preponderance
of evidence of a guy who likes to let little

(47:49):
things creep into the world, and and most of them are,
you know, little breadcrumbs. He believes for us himself. And
this time he leaves Robert Salah, the greatest of orators,
uh and communication experts, to go in front of a
microphone to try to disclose what the hell's going on.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
That did not go well.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
That did not go well. So yeah, it's in and
of itself. I don't think it's a big deal, all right, players,
move on play. You know, if you could have done
what the Lions did, just have guys hit each other
a little harder and then you just all get the
weekend off.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
But they didn't. We ran that drill again. They told
us not to listen I'll go Dan. I can just
see Dan Campbell going, Hey, if we go hard for
the next half hour, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I will
make sure the league knows it and they'll find us,
they will pay the fine, and you guys will get
the weekend off. All right, coach, we got you. Let's go.
Let's do it.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
They'll tell you what, guys, half hour right now, if
we go hard, you get to stay home. Let's go,
come on now. So but that kind of thing, like
it go that way. So, I mean, it's it's still
that the team is assembled. And like we talked about
a little bit when Lamar Jackson didn't show up a
couple of weeks ago, it's like, all right, what's the
point of everybody else being there? For starting quarterbacks not

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there at least to some degree. It's like you're not
running your base offense. In this case, you didn't even
have your O C running plays. That's a whole other
that's a whole other world. Because see how it's spirals.
But see how its spirals quickly Smith, see how it happens.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
It doesn't matter who are O C is as long
as Rogers is playing. He's not playing though nothing then
to rod Taylor is the quarterback and somebody else is calling.
But is somebody else staging a bloodless coup and taking
over the bracket, then you're not good. Then somebody else
is called. You're good, dude, dude, just beyond be be

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real for a second. Would you trade the Chargers roster
for the Jets roster?

Speaker 6 (49:47):
Don't put my team off.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
Dude, they got of course you would, you got, you got.
Jim Harbaugh, Ga, listen, stop Jim Harbaugh. And I saw this,
just idiot. Today He's giving out certificates for attendance at
mini camp like it's kindergarten and hey, everybody gets something
on culmination day and we're gonna have cake over here

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and there's gonna be juice boxes over there.

Speaker 6 (50:12):
And I mean, really, just understand the NFL is Aaron
Rodgers did.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
Don't you know what he was able to do.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
He was able to hand one of those certificates to
his starting quarterback.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
He was there the whole time. Jesus would be cool
with this.

Speaker 5 (50:27):
And you can say it's not a big deal, but
don't ever say again that that Aaron Rodgers is a
leader and and football is his top priority, because those
are false he was just there for doesn't care about football,
and he's he was just.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
There for three weeks at O t A's all right again?

Speaker 4 (50:42):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (50:42):
Is it a great optic?

Speaker 8 (50:43):
No?

Speaker 1 (50:44):
But does he does he want to go out there
and suck? Of course not.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
He cares about winning as much as Lebron does. I'm
gonna hang up and take it the rest of the.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Night, exit out by a fresh to exit swollen dope. Hey, Frostberg,
if you can get one of those real swell Jim
Harball outstanding at.

Speaker 6 (51:02):
Chievement, you have to show up to get one.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
Yeah, oh that's okay, Okay, Well do I get one?
Do I do I get it? I'll go cross through
a couple I get no.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
No, no.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
If I go for one day for for mini camp,
I get I get an attendant, don't get a tennis
thing for every.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
Day I go.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
I can put it up at home, I can go
into my off rosc.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
Just put a picture of you up outside facilities.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
This is you know, there's a there's a there's a
deeper conversation we'll have about Jim Harball and this coming
up in a bit. Now is not the time, because
I know, Frostburg, you need you need to uh simmer
down a little bit on this, but we'll have a
conversation later on.

Speaker 6 (51:39):
I have a conversation with with a coach who's won
everywhere he's been.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
Okay, has he won with the Chargers?

Speaker 6 (51:44):
Has the season started? Has he Chargers?

Speaker 4 (51:47):
Yet?

Speaker 1 (51:47):
It doesn't matter. He's given out certificates for it doesn't
matter what did it? Is he a thin giving? Are
they getting super Bowl certificates too? Hey, we're gonna be
in the super Bowl because you came here for every
day of off season. It's hard.

Speaker 6 (51:58):
You go watch that one highlight of Air and Rogers
last season.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Him running out with the flag. Nope, the town he goes. JD.
Martinez is all you got, buddy, Hey, come on, That's
all I need tonight is JAD Martinez.

Speaker 6 (52:10):
Ma.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
But I can watch that home run on a loop
exit out about a Fresco exit swollen dumb. The Jason
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We hit it on that. That's exactly Look, you want
to talk to a Jet fan about Aaron Rodgers, I'll
tell you that's the right way to address what's been
going on the last couple of days. Now coming up next,
we're gonna go a little bit bigger game hunting because

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there's an intervention that needs to be staged right now
before things really get more off the rails than they've
been with ye no, no, I gotta find him first. Man,
I don't know where he is. I can't have an intervention.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
See that, that's kind of that kind of is a problem.
Frostburg wins the argument, cause a couple of years ago,
if he had a packer uniform on, you'd be uh
figures reading from the Book of Rogers rules